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Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, October
thirty first, twenty twenty three. Happy

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Halloween and happy last day of Filipino
American History Month. I'm your host,

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Jiana Schoa, the Internet's favorite Kuja. Welcome to the Giant BombCast, Episode

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eight, one hundred and thirteen.
I'm joined by a bunch of Muggalo babies.

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Jeff Grubb can't believe you. Couya
zwing zoned us. Yeah, that's

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right, I kua zoned these three
gentlemen, my favorite Kuyas, honorary Kuyas.

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That's right, Honorary Kuya. And
Uh a dealer of all things Halloween.

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Jeff Beckler, that's right. Happy
holidays everybody. It's the spooky day.

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Get your Halloween plates ready to go, because I need to escape my

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house. Uh, it's bad.
This is a call for help. This

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is a call for help. I've
I've broken cafe. I'm being serious right

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now, get me out of my
house. It's a Halloween nightmare. Thanks.

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Yeah, Halloween, you have you
have four hundred children who are gonna

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be in your house for an hour
and a half this evening. Yep,

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you're gonna break allween. Yeah,
they're gonna break all my pinball machines.

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It's gonna be great. But at
least we've got the beetlejuice on loop out

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of the old CRT TV. That's
That's honestly the only thing I needed to

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do, and I got it done, and we're gonna have a happy,

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hollow week. Speaking about beetle juice, we have our own beetle juice here,

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our dear friend and yours. Oh
so like naughty Dan Jan Jan trick

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or treat? Is this like a
riddle? Are you like sphinxing me round?

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That's a question. That's a one
to pick one or the other.

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You know, we all hear tricking
in the streets, So I'll take a

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treat today, Mike Man, naughty
Mike, Mike, Mike, you can't

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feel yourself like that, Mike.
No, if it was a trick,

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I would have tore off my mask
and would have been Bailey under here or

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something like I hate good candy.
Uh, I've got some good news in

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my household. My kids are into
Ghostbusters suddenly. I didn't even try.

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I don't try to force these things
on the kids, but uh, Steph

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was watching yesterday. It's one of
her favorite movies and the kids were like,

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who's this Slimer guy? We are
way into him. And we have

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like this little play backpack Ghostbusters backpack
that we've had for forever, and we

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have a Slimmer standee that holds the
candy bowl. Cute Halloween. Yeah,

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and they got both out and they
were just running around. One was being

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Slimmer, the other one was being
a Ghostbuster and they were playing all night

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last night. I'm like, oh
man, that that just happened. Suddenly

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they're into Ghostbusters. So yet another
thing from my childhood I could share with

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my kids until they get bored of
it and destroy my heart. Now it's

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not going to happen because the generations
are holding Ghostbusters up. They are passing

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the baton generationally. Because I just
got back from a elementary school Halloween parade

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and by far, by far,
the most popular costume is a ghostbusting.

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Now, is that by choice of
the child or the parents of the world

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making your kids stress up? Yeah? I didn't interview four hundred little fucking

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kids, Okay, seven to eight
year old. Like, if you met

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a seven eight year old, you
know they're not going to do the ship

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their parents ask them they have an
idea of what they want to be and

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they're going to be it. Okay, you're like seven eight year olds,

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they wouldn't respect you, but maybe
other kids maybe it's very free. Yo.

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So this is my TikTok check of
the week. Apparently Spirit Halloween Stories

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wherever else they sell costumes are selling
out of the scream mask because people be

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getting mad soussio, because adults be
having a built time. Yeah. People

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like the idea of like a horny
guy in that mask. Right, They're

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like that, do you think that's
That's what I've seen some stuff on TikTok

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I have. They're like, oh, this person's here to murder me.

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Just kidding, it's time for sex. Yeah yeah, yeah, it's like,

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oh no, they're here. Let
me just show you a little bit

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of my butt, you know what. I've turned around on the matter.

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I'm in y'all gotta y'all got a
favorite Halloween costume from days past. My

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friends and I did a Jurassic Park
group cost once and I was the old

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Michael Crichton. Michael Crichton, John
Hammond. That's it. Yeah, So

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you're Peter Jackson and Lord of the
Rings and doctor Hammond. He's got a

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thing that he does. Yeah.
The best part was, like, you

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know, there's like there's you know, a girl in the friend group.

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We're like, okay, so you
could be the girl from Jurassic Park and

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she rightfully got bad and I just
sewn together a t Rex like costume.

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Hell yeah, hey, that t
Rex is a girl too though, so

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she as far as we know,
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have spontaneously changed sex. And they
did. They do that in the movie

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DNA. I was Raccoon Mario or
tok Mario. Oh that's cool. Third

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or fourth grade or something like that. My mom helped me build the costume,

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and that one was a big winner. A lot of the kids are

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a big fan of that, and
I loved it because I like Raccoon Mario

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a whole bunch. Was a period
of time where I made cardboard costumes,

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Like one year I made a giant
not giant, but like a pretty big

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like cardboard Kirby. My favorite cardboard
costume is I made the Magic school Bus

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one year. It's great, Oh
that's fun. My kid's doing a cardboard

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She's she's going as Nyon Cat.
And we had to build that out of

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Carl. That's really smart, except
for no one knows who nion Cat is

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explain that. Sorry, I had
to do it. I had to do

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it. Yeah, of a lot
of her day is going to be explaining

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it. That's okay, though.
I have a lot of good memories of

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my mom making like a custom Ninja
Turtles, uh costume, the Ghostbusters Ninja

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Turtles. I feel like we we
alternated for a couple of years there.

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And not to say like, you
know, there's just all there's there's just

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it's so easy to just get like
a twenty dollars Amazon costume now and they're

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good, Like they're good costumes.
It's not like I'm uh, I'm saying

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back of my day, costumes used
to mean something. They didn't They look

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like shit compared to what they do
now. So good for you. Uh

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yeah that, But I there's nothing
like getting on that belt, you know,

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with the m on it, and
you're like, I'm I'm fuck today,

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I'm fucking Michelangelo. Well, I
am Michael Ninja. I'm not whoa

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whoa whoa you were assuming the person? Hey am I right? Cowabunga.

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So I do miss that those days. And then when you're I was a

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gangster inexplicably and I just had the
guy what kind of gangs? Yeah,

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I was like a mafia. Wow, how dare you? That is Italian

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discrimination, the Italian discrimination, thanks
Sylvia. Yeah, you know, like

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I was. I was doing that
for a while, and like the I

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just remember the gun being like it
would he would rat tat tat in a

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way that yeah, yeah, it's
a Tommy gun of practical gun. How

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come we don't like I'm not sure
that the gun people use anymore. But

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the clip drums, I think they
didn't. They jam like constantly, I

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would imagine jam constantly. They were
really unreliable. Yeah, they're only good

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for video games, they do.
Look, really, that's some warn that's

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some like Dick Tracy bullshit right there. It's Dick Tracy or Angels with dirty

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soulstional movie from Home I don't know
why leave. Yeah, oh yeah until

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fairly, Jeff, Yeah really yeah, not like okay recently, it's in

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like probably like ten years ago when
I started watching Home alone again and I'm

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like, okay, I get that
this is not real, but for a

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very long portion of my life that
that's a real movie in my brain.

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It's still still a real movie to
me, Dick Tracey is still fucking amazing,

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by the way, Like, go
watch that movie. That movie's fucking

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wild, log wild. It's really
so of course it's good, is it?

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Oh that's Disney straight up. I
thought I thought Warren Baty's holding onto

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that license. Literally he the rights. He does actually have that, but

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produced the movie. But Disney made
the movie. Yeah, all right,

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Well it was a good fucking movie, man, Yeah, hell yeah,

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hell yeah, all right. Well, I mean here, here's the thing,

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Halloween being on a Tuesday. It's
stupid, right, oh, very

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stupid. You do the adult celebration
on the weekend. When is the trunk

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or treat or little stuff treat was
on the weekend? That was the weekend.

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I had a wedding on Saturday,
and on our way to the wedding,

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we're like navigating through a sea of
pirates, ands and goblins. And

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well that's classic New Jersey tonight here. Yeah, yeah, and yeah.

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I also there's there's trunker treating thing
where like people go out to like parking.

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Yes, uh, but trigger treating
is is tonight here? What that

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reminds me? I want to say, hey, Uh, watch out when

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you're driving tonight. If you're driving, those kids aren't gonna be looking out

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for you, You look out for
them. If just like five of you

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listen to that, we can probably
save some lives tonight. So the down

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just slow down and look out for
them, please. And then yesterday it

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was my wedding anniversary because if I
couldn't convince you that my wife was upsetsed

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with Halloween, I got married and
motherfucking mischief night. Okay, that's what

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happened. That's what happened in it's
called Devil's Night. Please, right,

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it's only mischief night, I think
in in Jersey and New York as far

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as I'm aware, the regional thing. But yeah, uh it's great.

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Things are really over the top here. I'm not you know, like there's

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there's a couple of houses in down
you guys that are just like, I

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don't know what they're gonna do with
all this stuff tomorrow. What are they

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gonna do? Are they gonna burn
it all? Where's it gonna go?

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The house isn't that big. I
don't under the storage. Do you think

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they have like storage, like dedicated
storage things that they rent for that stuff?

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So help me figure this out,
guys. Okay, I'm here to

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help you. There's two houses on
a street, okay, near my home.

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Beginning of October. They started off
pretty sparingly, pretty sparse, right,

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A couple of like mummies in the
yard whatever, as it got told

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to Like this week, things were
slowly but surely ramped up. And I

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passed by on Sunday and you can't
even see the lawn. Okay, they've

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done, they've like and it looks
like they look like stores. I don't

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understand what happened. Were they like
keeping up with the the the what is

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it? The Benjamin's? Is that
the all right? Keep it on?

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And like they just went tit for
tag back and forth, and I feel

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like it just got crazy. One
of them got a like a you know,

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the thing from Stranger Things, and
then the other people got the Stranger

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Things, and then one person got
these cool which is now David, and

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then like the witches now that look
like they're floating. Have you seen those?

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Those are sick? Those are those
are like the new skeleton things.

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It's just crazy and you I don't
know what they're gonna do with their stuff

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now. And they've ramped it all
the way up to like now it's just

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psycho Bill. Do you think they're
gonna sell this stuff? Or I think

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you just if you have that much
stuff, you have to just get a

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rent a rent a center thing or
whatever, rent a center, better,

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rent a shelf. You're renting a
storage locker for ten months? Like,

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what the what the fuck's going on? I mean I think they probably just

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keep it and then like you just
probably all year around, Yeah, and

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you keep your Christmas stuff in there
and your Halloween stuff and you get it

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out of it. I guess it
is so much. I gotta take a

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photo of this. It is.
It's psychotic. You can have too much

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of a good thing, you can
you honestly, again, I mean that's

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us every Tuesday. You know,
too much of a good thing. And

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that's why I'm happy to announce.
If you didn't hear this earlier, and

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if you only listen to the Giant
BombCast, I'm happy to tell you,

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folks at home, that's starting Friday. This Friday, we'll be starting another

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episode of the Giant BombCast. Yeah, titled Giant BombCast Revengeance. We're gonna

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splice you off some more. BombCast
machines. That's right, Yeah, nano

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machines. Forget AI. We're jumping
all the way into nano machines. The

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technology is not there. But we're
going to record a podcast anyway, on

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framing for it to be like an
hour ninety minutes more condensed podcast talk about

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the games that we missed earlier in
the week on Tuesdays, because sometimes embargoes

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are a little bit odd. But
also sometimes there's a you know, we

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want to chat about some stuff more, maybe we dive deeper into stuff,

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yes, grub like. Also,
we're planning on having like a topic specific

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topic like a magazine. Magazine to
this show is kind of like, oh

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we're catching up on the news that
kind of stuff. Yeah, it'll be

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same for you. So it'll just
pop up. If you're already subscribed,

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you're gonna get it and you'll see
the different name on it, Revengeance,

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and we're gonna keep the numbering system, so the main podcast will be the

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number and then this will be the
Number plus Revengeance. But yes, we're

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gonna try to bring some interesting topics
each week to talk about and that'll fill

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up most of the time. After
we talk about in any games we might

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have missed. This can be where
like spoiler discussions live and that sort of

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thing in the future, so this
will afford us a lot more opportunity to

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talk even more about games. This
also affords us the opportunity, since it's

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gonna be on Friday afternoons, to
extend the invite to Tam and Lucy,

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who are always super busy during the
week, but also Emma and Bailey as

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well. And you know, Mike's
always here. Hey, Mikey maybe and

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maybe he's not. I don't know, not this Friday anyways. But yeah,

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I'm very much looking forward to BombCast
Revengeance. I'm just thinking BCR in

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my head and just sounds. It
just feels really good. Yea, all

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right, let's talk about some games. I'm just out there. I'm just

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planning to see for this. Maybe
we get some new new seg music.

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Surements, I can do it.
How does that happen? I don't know.

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Okay, Mike says it, and
it happens. Mike, You're gonna

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make some tunes. You to make
some segues can whistle? No, it's

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just saying my name is tough some
more. Oh yeah, that's what we're

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looking for. That's Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike,

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Mike, Mike, Mitch, Mitch, Mike. People listen. Sometimes

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I wonder why, why why we
bring Mike around? This is Bailey,

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This is Bailey's free week. We
could have just grabbed Wow that Bailey play

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Avatar Frontiers of Pandora. You're right, You're right. I know, I

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know on our list, on the
list. That's why I'm here. That's

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right. Well, now I no
longer wonder, but I still super Mario

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Brothers. Wonder we've been playing this
across the board. Did we talk about

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this last week? I don't even
remember we did? We did? I

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think we did? I can't remember
Dan Dan talked about it. Yes,

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Dan had played it right, but
by then, yes, Well where are

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we landing on the wonder? Now? It's a fantastic game. It shot

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up to the to near the top
of my game of your list, if

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not the top. A big,
big part of it is it is amazing

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to play. But every single little
element of regarding the game is really well

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done. I think it has the
best multiplayer for the way I play games.

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Uh these days where it's like,
hey, play this together, separate

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and you can hang out online and
whether that's with strangers kind of journey style,

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we're just gonna perry up with these
random strangers. You guys, can

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play through a level and you're gonna
end up helping each other because the way

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that the game is rigged up,
it is impossible to do anything but either

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help each other or ignore each other. There's no detrimental thing you could do

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to someone else. It is just
positive experiences you can have. And so

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you're looking for something you can't find
it, and then someone's like, oh,

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I think this person's looking for the
thing I just found. I'm gonna

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go hop over there and jump in
that place and kind of maybe put a

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standy down. And then I'm realizing, Oh, this person's trying to communicate

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to me. I'm gonna go,
oh, look, it's right here.

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I just jump up this little corner
I missed. I'm gonna hit the thing

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and thank you so much. I
found the thing. And it doesn't feel

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like cheating or spoilers because it feels
like part of the experience and it's magical.

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And that's just the random people I'm
playing with. You guys. When

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we played online, that was amazing
too, the fact that we could just

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kind of be exploring this stuff together, the first experience of like getting into

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the game and learning how to play
and be like, Okay, you know,

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let's share some ideas. Look at
this. There's this little hitting thing

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on the overworld map. Now I
know to look for hidden things on the

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overworld map. And then obviously the
racing is just so my stuff. I'm

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so into that. I think for
me, the package itself is so refined,

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so well done that I'm just I'm
in love. There are a couple

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of things I wish that there was
a batch of even more difficult levels,

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yes, but I'm not really holding
that against the game so much because I'm

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now kind of getting to a point
with it where I'm like, I can

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make these levels more difficult by trying
to run them even faster or using something

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like one of the badges that makes
it so you kind of are always running

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this one of the League game badge. I won't spoil too much about like

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what it actually does, but it
can make things more difficult, but it

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can also speed things up, and
then you can do these really awesome like

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speed runs of these levels. And
so I'm like Oh, okay, I

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can kind of force my way into
making this game more difficult by actually treating

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it like a speed Runner, and
then it's just a blast all over again.

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But still it's like maybe a batch
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wouldn't be I wouldn't hate that,
I would really welcome that. But just

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overall, I just am in love
with this game. Yeah, it's amazing.

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Yeah, I would also like I
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I think the final final level,
So that's all I'd love to do.

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And you know, I'm excited for
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like some challenge levels, and I
do like those ones in the Special world.

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But yeah, it's like there's a
whole other world even of more of

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those, I would be all about
that. I would gobble that up.

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If that was d OC even,
I'd be pretty happy. How how does

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Nintendo carry this like positive online interaction
momentum to like it should be in everything?

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This online mode should be kind of
a standard thing going forward for so

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many other games. Uh, you
know, it doesn't have to be implemented

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in this exact way going forward,
but but any game where you can be

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doing stuff online to sort of have
the you know, it's a journey,

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but also from software right where you
see ghosts walking around. Yeah, it's

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very much like that. There's a
way to definitely have it, which what

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should definitely do as Lucy's mansion four
YEA fantastic yes. And then I think

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it encourages them to be even more
devious with their design, sort of be

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like it's okay if we make these
things a little bit more challenging or a

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little bit more hidden, because people
will be crowdsourcing the solutions and that again,

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that's just that feels magical. So
and it's optional, right, Mike,

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you played the game offline, right, did you have? I did

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for a while, and I played
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was going back one hundred percent,
then I did have that mode turned on.

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when I was playing with you guys

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for the racing here, and then
like never turned off. Agains like,

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yeah, this is actually kind of
fun. I do like this. I

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think at first I was like I
don't want to see these assholes running around

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whatever, blah blah blah. No, now, especially going back and sometimes

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I am just like looking for one
of those purple coins and I don't know

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where it is. It is nice
just to have a little help. Or

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if I do fall down and die, instead of having to reset the level,

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I can just be a ghost and
run to another player get a little

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help that way. Yeah, there
are these really fun moments where you are

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going through a stage with somebody,
You're popping each other's a ghost of bubbles,

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you're spamming your emos. It's very
uh charming, you know what it

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reminds me of, Like this very
positive interactions with playing with people online.

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Is the first time I booted up
Apex Legends and how clever the pinging system

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was, and like, you know, you're not really chatting with anyone.

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Maybe we should just shouldn't talk to
people. Yeah, absolutely not. Nonverbal

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communication is like huge with humans and
games have like forgotten that or like didn't

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believe that they could capture that.
And it's like, actually, video games

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would be really good at this,
and so now we're getting to a point

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where that's actually manifesting, which is
really nice. I'll just say the big

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thing for me with this game is
it just feels so expressive when you're playing,

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and you can play in so many
different ways, and it's like the

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game itself is so well animated that
it feels alive. But then you can

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attach whatever bade you want and play
your own style, and it just I

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think it really speaks to playing can
be performance, and this game nails that,

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or at least you feel like you're
part of a performance. Right.

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You got all these expert players putting
together this game, like this awesome jazz

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band of like we're gonna we're gonna
do all this wild stuff. And you

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now, you hop in and you
try to play along with us, and

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they make it so easy to feel
like you are jumping in and an expert

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player alongside of these amazing developers.
That it's that's where I really just feel

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like, oh, I'm slotting into
this one of a kind of one of

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a kind of experience and I just
love it. It's great. You know,

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I'm not gonna go through everything you
guys just said. I agree pretty

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much on everything though. The only
problem I have is is local. But

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I just don't. I just don't
think that's what it really I don't know

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could be. At the end of
the day, I don't really have an

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answer to how you fix that unless
you like literally split the screens. Yeah,

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you're talking about the camera following one
character or another, right, Yeah,

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and just and having it like switch
mid level too, which is sort

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of Sonic Superstars has the same problem, and anytime a Mario game has the

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same problem with Sonic Superstars. Yeah, you know, I think outside of

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which you know, Look, you're
talking about how the game plays really well

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for what you're looking for. Like
I've said to myself, not out loud

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because I don't want to break my
kids hard, but like I'm going to

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play this without you too. I'm
gonna play this without you because you you're

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you suck at this and I'm better
right now. You guys have for no,

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we have one. Okay. I
was good because if you if there

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was a way for you to,
like, if you have the game digitally

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and all that stuff, you could
do that the system sharing and maybe play

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online together. And that's probably the
right way to do it, which is

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also not a it's not locals should
be better. I agree local should be

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better, but I also you know, I I say, when you complain

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about something, you should offer a
better way to do it. And I

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don't have that second part of that. I think, well, they can't.

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You're right, they can't. I
guess split screen is really the only

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answer, and that's not it,
and that's stuff fun that kind of blows

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or maybe, like I don't know, I had this idea of like someone

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playing handheld and someone playing on the
screen system like that here today, Yeah,

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more screens, more screens please,
I'll take more screens. But anyway,

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Yeah, like the game. It's
so amazingly creative and designed with perfection,

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Like, it is so great to
experience this right here now, where

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Like I had a lot of high
hopes, maybe overly lofty expectations for this

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game, and to see them all
met and more is really super satisfying.

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So this is easily top top four
for me for sure. Oh damn,

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this is clean specific Most people say
top to your top five. Yeah,

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I like specificity. We're at a
point where we're putting together some lists and

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stuff, right yeah, exactly adults
four. Then the adults do the work

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here, Mike, Mikey, baby
Bunky. Maybe Mikey ad happy, So

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give them a list to fill out, baby Mike. I do like list.

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We all love list. The Internet
loves lists. How I really want

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to eventually find out about how much
of the younger members of the team,

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how much their input weighed in,
because I'm curious of like the ghost implementation

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in this, is that like an
idea from a younger member of the team

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or something that was like a sor
we didn't like we learned from what Tam

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and Lucy talking to Nintendo that younger
people and the staff were why we don't

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have the timer anymore, right,
Yeah, So I'm wondering if if their

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input also informed some of like the
online stuff, because it's got to be

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frustrating working at Nintendo, maybe like
a younger dev and just hearing the concert

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Braje from the Internet about how poorly
Nintendo implements the Internet when it's like,

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guys, we could just do this
this way, do it, just flip

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the internet switch on, we could
do it, really make it well.

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It feels super informed by a lot
of recent games and mostly from software games,

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and that feels like it's coming from
a younger audience and or a younger

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development pool and Nintendo that you know, there's no I guess I wouldn't be

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surprised if Tesaka's like, yeah,
I played those games. Yeah, this

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was my idea. Sure, Yeah, that wouldn't shock me, but I

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just think it's more unlikely than it
was. Actually some younger people on the

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staff speaking about new fresh games,
someone put on the list here Super Mario

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World. Yeah. As soon as
I beat Wonder, I was in the

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Mario mood and I went and played
through world. And by play through world,

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I mean I went through Yoshi Island, which is the first world,

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and then I did the shortcut through
the ghost house in the second world,

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went to the Special or star Road. I did the star Road levels all

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the way around, went up to
the top, went straight to the last

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level, and beat the game,
which I have never actually done before.

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I Oh, in this game,
this is the game I was always know

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I'm just gonna play all these levels
or play most of them. When I

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first played out, I'll play most
of them. I wasn't getting the ninety

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six or ninety seven whatever the number
is of clears, but it was like,

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oh, yeah, I could just
go ahead and beat this game in

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like probably an hour, and it
wasn't even that long really, so but

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that's a great game. Still,
boy, it feels really good. I'll

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say that I think the switch emulation
feels there's like a little bit of latency,

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I think, which made me really
want to get it up and running

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on the CRT over here. So
that's a project I'm working on right now

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because I want to play some Mario
games on a CRT. I think that

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would make me very happy. Okay, okay, going from jumping a bunch

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of people jumping to a bunch of
I have nothing for this. The blue

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people are here, Mike Minati,
you played Avatar Frontiers of Pandora, and

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I'm very jealous. Yeah, I
can help right here because there's actually quite

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a bit of jumping in this because
do the Navy get high, they get

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very high. So yes, I
actually did a remote hands on preview played

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a couple hours of Avatar Frontiers of
Pandora. The demo kind of jumped me

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around a little bit, but I
had a good feel for a good amount

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of the game, including doing some
story missions, doing some open world stuff.

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I think a lot of people looked
at this and thought it looked like

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Far Cry with an Avatar skin,
and that is definitely true in a lot

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of ways. But I think that
Avatar skin makes the far Cry formula a

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lot better in a lot of ways. First, and foremost just you know,

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looking gorgeous. I love the way
Pandora looks. I love all the

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floating mountains of the glowing vegetation,
like the So the best part of the

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demo was the mission to get my
ekron. You know, the flying dragon

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thing. So you have to like
ascend a flying space horse. That's right.

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You weren't, Yeah you went to
animal Kingdom, but like you,

406
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so you have to like kind of
ascend this mountain on foot, and there

407
00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:08.480
you kind of have jumping puzzles.
The first person platforming I think is gonna

408
00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:12.799
be divisive because it usually is.
I like that stuff because I am so

409
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:18.359
metro based in culture. Jumping pilled, yeah, I like it, and

410
00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:19.680
it's a good jump, Like you
can hold down that jump button, you

411
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:25.160
get some real height. You're like
ascending this mountain. You're solving some little

412
00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:27.720
puzzles here and there, but just
the views as they're going up there some

413
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:33.480
mountain up Pandora is awesome. But
then eventually you do get the ekron and

414
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:37.839
then it becomes just your mouth and
it's kind of skyward. Sword is escororre.

415
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:38.559
Yeah, you can push a button
to some in it, but you

416
00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:41.519
can also push the button when you're
falling, and then it is just gonna

417
00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:45.079
grab you and then you can start
just flying around freely with it. Right.

418
00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:49.119
So there's been flying in Far Cry
before. You can get one of

419
00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:52.440
those gyro copters, but here it
really is just push this button and you

420
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:56.519
can fly wherever you want. You
can shoot things while you're flying. You

421
00:28:56.599 --> 00:29:02.200
can jump off of the Kron onto
like some battleship and take that out and

422
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:03.759
jump off it, jump back on
the Ekron, that kind of stuff.

423
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:07.160
I'm like, yeah, it's all
this all works for me. This all

424
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:11.400
feels pretty pretty good when you're doing
like the base stuff and that's here two

425
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:14.799
like that Far Cry for me,
like go to the enemy base and take

426
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:17.720
that out, and it's like you
actually are shooting people with machine gun.

427
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:22.599
That's when it feels very like the
most Far Cry and also maybe the least

428
00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:26.480
interesting. It's fine, but that
stuff is, you know, that stuff

429
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.880
that you have done before in these
games a million times whatever. The super

430
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:36.440
Avatar flavorite stuff though, is working
for me a lot. Oh that what

431
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:41.039
a surprise. That's crazy. Are
the whales in it? I've not seen

432
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:44.759
a whale yet, but I did
get you know, because again the farker

433
00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:47.279
thing. You get a skill tree, and one of them was because you

434
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:49.839
have to feed your ekron. There's
the whole hunting and crafting stuff like in

435
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:53.359
far Cry. Sure you have to
you do have to eat to keep your

436
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:56.599
stamming up. You also have to
feed your ekron. But I got this

437
00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:02.559
skill where if I just sort of
skim water, then I eat kron automatically

438
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:14.400
like fish for itself as hard.
Oh my god, I like that a

439
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:18.839
lot. I hate that Avatar.
I became Avatar pilled. This way of

440
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:25.039
water is amazing. It's such literally
perfect. So there's nothing wrong with no

441
00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:29.680
notes, zero notes. Yeah,
you know. I don't want to get

442
00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:33.960
like I did enjoy them. I
don't want to get people's expectations too high

443
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:38.559
or anything. But what are we
laughing about? What that car is?

444
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:41.799
Just like I have? It is
like, but this has no appeal to

445
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:48.880
me whatsoever? What's happening on?
I don't understand why these guys are so

446
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:56.039
high on Avatar. That's it.
I just simply cannot understand you. You

447
00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:00.799
are so fucking weird them. Did
you get it yet? Of course I

448
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:03.119
want to get it. Yes,
they're not gonna go to animal Kingdom.

449
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:07.119
Of course and going to Animal Kingdom. No, I just don't understand.

450
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:11.359
I don't understand how you three grown
ass adults are just like so into Avatar.

451
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:18.640
It's obviously very big and very important
is adjacent, but like nobody I

452
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.039
know talks about it. Nobody I
know talks about it. You're the only

453
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:26.880
three people saying it's important. Like
the way you talk about Avatar is the

454
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:30.279
way I talk about like the Fifth
Element, And I just don't get it.

455
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:34.480
I just don't get it occupy a
similar space the fifth wishes. To

456
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:40.680
be honest, I'll tell dude,
I'll take that movie over anything coming out

457
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:45.400
of Pandora seven days a week on
the third one, dude, when they

458
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.519
got to meet a different drive,
the fire People. I mean, it's

459
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:52.319
like, how is it so hard
to believe that James Camera movie is really

460
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:57.000
good? It's not hard to believe. I've in every way. Let me

461
00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:01.759
be honest, I completely belie believe
that this movie is good. That doesn't

462
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:06.920
change the fact that I don't understand
Way of Water. No, I haven't

463
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:15.240
seen it all right, that movie
Scraps Goes. It's literally perfect, is

464
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:22.359
what he said? Yes, perfect, He's not guy five times and it

465
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:27.240
started again the other night. It's
perfect. It's like, there's just something

466
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:32.000
inherently hilarious about this to me,
that you are all such Avatar folks.

467
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:37.359
See, here's the thing. I
hated, avidly hated the first one.

468
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:39.920
I thought it was so boring,
and then I was really hesitant to go

469
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:45.039
watch the second one, Way of
Water with my partner, she loves Avatar.

470
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:49.920
I sat in there and then I
instantly bought in. I consider myself

471
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:52.519
like a movie buff ish. Right. I missed Affenheimer completely when it was

472
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:58.079
an IMAX, But I've seen Way
of Water in theaters at least three times.

473
00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:06.119
That's so much time, the variable
frame rate. Man. And this

474
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:08.079
is just to be clear. This
is not just to be clear because there's

475
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:12.440
been a little bit of controversy about
me yucking yums lately. Okay, this

476
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:19.599
is because I'm totally happy with you. This is not yes, I get

477
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:23.000
this, you're not. You're just
lost. It's like I went to a

478
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:27.160
museum, stood at a wall and
so almost like that's a painting. I'm

479
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:31.000
like, oh, okay, right
like and and I don't and I'm I

480
00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:37.039
can't. I just can't really uh
get on board that you think you could

481
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:44.599
watch Way of Water with an open
heart back Yeah, I unclouded by hate.

482
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:50.279
I will look again. That fucking
flight of passage ride is phenomenal.

483
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:54.880
The river Nave terrible, But like
that's the thing. I can easily watch

484
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:58.039
this thing. I know it's like
a four hour movie, so I really

485
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:00.240
got to carve out some time for
that. Maybe it's to night or uh,

486
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:05.920
but maybe we should do water.
I just think, to me,

487
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:10.440
it is just hilarious that this thing
exists that is so uh sort of special

488
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:14.679
to you, and I just look
at it like I just I just don't

489
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:16.800
understand how. But that's okay,
And that's okay, and that's okay.

490
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:21.599
That movie makes me want to have
a son so that I can be disappointed

491
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:24.440
in him and then have him like
teach me how to hold my breath or

492
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:29.199
something, because like I think about
that scene all the time, like like

493
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:38.000
I don't know's I can see you, I can see you in the blue.

494
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:52.519
Make very easy. Oh no,
all right, all right, we

495
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:57.320
gotta we gotta move this on before
Okay. Sometimes hey chat, sometimes you

496
00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:01.000
gotta keep that ship to yourself,
Okay, keep that ship to yourself.

497
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:07.320
Oh my, I never noticed that, how have you never noticed that I

498
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:12.079
don't understand. So yeah, I
think this game is actually looking pretty prophisy.

499
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:15.280
This comes out this year, Mike, December seventh, right on the

500
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:21.119
Game Awards. Game that's not getting
delayed, like basically right now, this

501
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:27.119
is gonna be the holiday break game
for me. Yeah, this and and

502
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:31.599
RoboCop Rogue City because there's just no
time. A game. Another game that

503
00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:37.800
some of us have been playing,
keeping in time with spooky seasons real quick

504
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:44.519
on on upf we played Ghostbusters Spirits
Unleashed the ECDO edition ECTO. Yes we

505
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:47.280
did. Yeah. This was another
one of those asynchronous games where it's like

506
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:52.320
a party of four have the ability
to go against like another player that plays

507
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:58.719
as a ghost. The ghost is
mucking stuff up. The player ghost has

508
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:02.719
like three it's actually three lives,
and the Ghostbusters have to just like shoot

509
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:07.239
their beams at them, trap them
in a the trapper, and then get

510
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:12.920
on with their day. But the
ghosts GB you you had the chance to

511
00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:15.119
play as the ghost one time?
What is that like? Because none of

512
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:20.599
us got right. So I didn't
do the tutorial for the go I didn't

513
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:22.039
really do the tutorial at all,
So I was like going in there.

514
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:24.199
I read up on what to do
in this game, and it seemed basic

515
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:28.039
enough as a ghostbuster, so that
I felt pretty comfortable going in there and

516
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:29.760
knowing what to do, and that
turned out to be the case. We

517
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:34.679
kind of figured it out pretty quickly. The ghost I my what I got

518
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:36.920
from playing it, and I did
end up winning, but I was like

519
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:39.960
mostly just trying to survive you guys
encounters with you guys for the most part,

520
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:44.719
while moving around and jumping into a
bunch of objects, which I think

521
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:49.599
was increasing the haunted level of a
room in the game. And eventually I

522
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:52.239
got to the point where like,
this room is completely haunted, and my

523
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:54.880
haunting level of the building jumped up
dramatically, and that seems to be my

524
00:36:54.960 --> 00:37:00.760
goal. So and then whenever we
I would get an encounter with into an

525
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:04.840
encounter with you all, I would
have all my abilities of like, okay,

526
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:08.039
here's like dropping some minions or whatever
for you guys to fight, or

527
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:12.679
I can do this big ultimate that
turns me into a tornado, which gives

528
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:15.280
me a chance. It slows you
all down and gives me a chance to

529
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:19.760
get out of the room and go
hide. That hiding aspect seems to be

530
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:22.679
the biggest thing, though most of
the time you just want to avoid the

531
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:25.360
ghostbusters see if you can hide.
At least that's how I played it and

532
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:30.320
ended up winning. I think there's
probably some incentive to go in an encounter

533
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:34.679
and like to confront you all,
because I think that probably also helps if

534
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:37.599
I were to slim one of you
or something like that, but I was

535
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:39.800
still figuring that out. I will
say that you guys got pretty good at

536
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:45.400
destroying my portals, which are the
lives you mentioned, and that was like

537
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:47.840
I had a chance to go in
there and maybe try to throw you guys

538
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:51.840
off or or slow you down,
but that was like a really risky thing

539
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:53.559
of you are all are there.
So if I go there and encounter you

540
00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:57.159
and then I run out of my
abilities and I don't have an ability to

541
00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:00.440
have the option to escape, you
guys are going to is at me,

542
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:02.000
trap me, and I'll lose a
life as well, and then you'll then

543
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:06.519
you'll be able to destroy the portal, so I basically I'll be losing two

544
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:08.800
lives. So I made the decision
after you guys were like really going in

545
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:13.159
all in on destroying that portal.
I'm just gonna dip. I'm gonna get

546
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:15.880
out here. I'm gonna do some
haunting and see if I can accomplish something.

547
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:20.239
And I think doing that really helped. Overall it was it was fun.

548
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:23.480
I had a good time charming.
It very charming. I love all

549
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:28.880
the Ghostbusters accoutrement throughout, Like the
experience of like, yeah, yeah,

550
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:31.320
there is Ray and there is Winston
and they're hanging out in the ghost house

551
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:37.239
has all these like fun references and
stuff. But it's more like, you

552
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:38.199
know, this is a cool party
game if you guys are gonna have a

553
00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:40.559
game night with your friends, and
the discords like, hey, what should

554
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:44.360
we play now? If this is
in the rotation, I think that's the

555
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:46.000
perfect place for it. Keep it
in the rotation. I don't know if

556
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:50.000
it's a game I'm gonna go back
to every weekend, but every couple of

557
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:52.079
weekends when we're looking for something to
play, I would totally keep it right

558
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:55.880
there. The leveling system is interesting
because you level up your equipment the more

559
00:38:55.960 --> 00:39:00.400
you use it. So if you
wind up using your trapper lot and successfully

560
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:06.159
trapping the ghosts, your trapper is
gonna level up more so than someone else's

561
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:10.280
because y'all were trapping the most,
Dan Bailey, you and I would barely

562
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:14.239
throw mine out, so mine was
still level one by the time we ended

563
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:16.320
our a little session. Maybe this
should be a game of the year category

564
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:22.719
where it's like the best game to
play with my friends online that I will

565
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:27.400
never touch otherwise. Yeah, I
love that, Yeah, totally, because

566
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:30.119
I think we can throw you some
older games in there that are like popping

567
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:32.559
back off again, because I would
put it like Halo Infinite in that list

568
00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:37.400
and stuff like that right now.
But yeah, that's definitely a good category

569
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:42.000
because I think that's a reasonable thing
for a game to be. A game

570
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:44.400
doesn't have to be everything to everyone. It doesn't have to be the one

571
00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:46.800
game you play, although a lot
of these asymmetrical multiplayer games turn into that

572
00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:52.199
for certain audiences. Obviously Dead by
Daylight is that game for a huge audience.

573
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:54.639
But there's a lot of these now, and I think if some of

574
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:57.559
them are like, no, yeah, hey, if every once in a

575
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:00.239
while you want to get the friends
together to play something like and you're good

576
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:02.719
at that, not like great,
not the best thing in the world,

577
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:07.719
but you're good and serviceable, which
is I think this game is like just

578
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:09.559
a step above that. That's great, that's fantastic. You don't have to

579
00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:14.719
be more than that. Speaking about
Game of the Year, we have one

580
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:19.280
game listed here that may be near
the top of some folks's lists, like

581
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:23.199
manatta, you've beat Balderskate three.
Wow? Right, Yeah, isn't it

582
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:28.599
stupid that I feel like accomplished,
like I did something important here? I

583
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:30.599
beat All this stuff we do is
meaningless, but we can't acknowledge it,

584
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:34.079
Mike, So just keep going,
just keep going. That's great, thank

585
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:36.679
you very much. Yeah, you
know, I've been kind of whittling away

586
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:38.840
at this, putting a lot of
time in it, especially the last month

587
00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:44.440
really, after like a lot of
like the giant wave of releases that was

588
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:49.559
happening basically NonStop throughout this year.
I always wanted to make sure I went

589
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:52.800
back and played more balder Skate three
and made an effort of beating it because

590
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.159
I do think it's going to be
important for Game of the Year discussion.

591
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:58.760
And yeah, it is going to
be important for that, because it's great.

592
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:02.760
It It is fantastic. I think
that it keeps a really nice pace.

593
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:07.239
I know I used to read that
some people thought like Act three dropped

594
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:09.400
off I don't know if I just
different opinion from them, or if it's

595
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:13.960
been patched up bit better than I
got. What Like, isn't it possible

596
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:16.639
for you to have a very different
experience in Actree than other people? Maybe,

597
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:21.920
but like such a pro gamer,
you can kind of do almost everything,

598
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:25.639
like and I have a feeling I
did most of the big quest chains

599
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:29.679
in Act three. I know there
is one involving Rafael that I didn't do,

600
00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:34.440
which is apparently a lot of people's
favorite actually, But just in general,

601
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:36.599
though, what I like about the
game is how dense it is.

602
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:38.960
You know, it has that three
act structure, and each act is basically

603
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:45.119
another area that you're exploring, but
each of them are again just so dense,

604
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:50.840
Like almost every place you go there's
going to be something like a question

605
00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:57.519
chain, an interesting encounter, somebody
to talk to, some secret to find.

606
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:01.320
And that's what kind of remind me
of something like a koetor I never

607
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:05.360
played like the older Boulders Gates,
but that's what it really is, bring

608
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:07.480
me back to that kind of thing
where, yeah, like maybe this version

609
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:14.000
of Tattoo Na Kotor isn't some giant, sprawling open world thing, but every

610
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:17.599
location here matters, and there's something
I'm going to find interesting everywhere I go.

611
00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:22.320
And then I think just the cast
of characters is really really likable,

612
00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:24.079
really interesting here. I think you're
seeing that right, Like these characters are

613
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:30.039
popping up I imagine a lot of
people's social mediat Oh yeah, everywhere,

614
00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:34.000
yestely. Yeah. I saw somebody
say like, it's probably the most iconic

615
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:37.199
cast we've we've gotten like a game
of any sort like this since maybe Fireing

616
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:43.599
in Three Houses right up, Yeah
exactly. I think that, well,

617
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:46.280
this game is doing so much for
those by aware freaks who a large part

618
00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:51.360
of what they like is just that
kind of This is my found family of

619
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:55.000
slash sci fi freaks, right exactly. And you know, maybe we're gonna

620
00:42:55.039 --> 00:43:00.480
get intimate. Who knows, You're
definitely gonna get intimate. You are definitely

621
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:04.679
going to change any of them.
Mike. Oh yeah, shadow Heart totally

622
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:10.679
saw the light and I saw more
of her. You saw the light,

623
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:15.400
you saw her dark areas? Yeah, yeah, so yeah, no,

624
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:16.840
yeah, I mean shadow Heart,
we're good now, we're we're in love.

625
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:21.440
I think something like that. I
mean, you're still having sex with

626
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:23.800
all the other people in the party, but your show I did have sex

627
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:27.280
with Karlac and then Shadowear didn't really
like that, so I had a reload

628
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:32.280
to save. Excuse me, it's
Mike monogamy. Please, Oh my god,

629
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:36.599
my name, man, I have
a good name. I just you're

630
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:39.840
like into your thirties, and I
don't understand how all of the names have

631
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:45.119
not yet been discovered. I don't. We're very creative people, that's true.

632
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:49.480
Yeah, there's some really dark names, but you know those are those

633
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:55.039
only exist within the Mike illuminatim.
All right, all right, cool for

634
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:59.840
that. Yeah, it's gonna be
uh in your top three for the top

635
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:02.920
four or top your top four for
gaming. I mean it's my top five.

636
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:08.280
I could definitely probably going to be
in my top five. And you

637
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:12.360
know what, I think the ending
was very good. I think that could

638
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:15.159
be hard to do in these games, especially since an RPGs there's often that

639
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:20.760
kind of reverse difficulty curve. By
the end, you just have so many

640
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:24.039
abilities and so many tools that's kind
of hard to make things challenging. And

641
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:28.920
you almost do feel that a little
bit in some normal Act three encounters.

642
00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:31.719
But then the very end stuff they
do some interesting things to ramp up the

643
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:36.679
difficulty to make it an interesting challenge
and to still make it a spectacle.

644
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:39.599
So I was really happy with the
last few encounters. They did, in

645
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:44.840
fact feel epic, which is what
you want for the finale of a game

646
00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:49.199
that you've been playing for seventy eighty
hours and you have all this investment into

647
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:52.559
Is that your your game clock seventy
eighty Yeah, mine was seventy. I

648
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:55.920
know that's probably essarily like that's a
little lower than some people. I did

649
00:44:57.760 --> 00:44:59.920
a lot of them. Yeah,
well, you know, I'm very good.

650
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:01.639
Yeah or no, no, maybe
that is normal. I don't know.

651
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:06.159
I guess I haven't looked, but
I did most side missions, at

652
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:07.119
least some of the big ones.
I know there were some things I missed.

653
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:10.679
There's something with the Katheki or whatever
they're called that I didn't do much

654
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:15.840
of. And again I somehow didn't
really do the whole Raphael chain. But

655
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:20.239
otherwise I did a lot. I
did all this stuff I really wanted to

656
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:22.599
do. I definitely feel like I
had a full experience. So yeah,

657
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:29.039
Mike, do you think I would
still enjoy my time and walk away feeling

658
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:35.199
good if I just critical path through
Balder's Gate three? Yeah, I think

659
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:38.639
you'd be fine, I'm or you
know, like like I was mostly just

660
00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:43.800
concerned with doing the size stuff that
involved my party members. That's why I

661
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:47.679
didn't do a lot of the gith
Yankee stuff, because it involved that Lazell

662
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:52.719
or whatever character who I wasn't entirely
feeling. Shouldn't make you horny, right,

663
00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:55.679
Okay it might. It's hard to
say that because some of that,

664
00:45:55.960 --> 00:46:00.800
like not critical pathing, like some
of those big side quest chains do tie

665
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:05.440
into the main missions, and also
I think make them easier. Oh so

666
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:07.079
right, it's almost a bit of
like a breath of the lofting, like,

667
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:09.119
yeah, you can go straight to
the castle, but it's going to

668
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:12.920
be harder because you have to fight
those bosses there. Not literally that,

669
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:15.760
but a little bit like that.
But you know, I wouldn't worry about

670
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:16.440
that, Jen, I just say, you know, just play it.

671
00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:19.960
If you want to explore a round
more, do that. If you like

672
00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:23.280
don't quite beat it or whatever.
That's it's the kind of game where if

673
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:28.840
like you spend twenty five to thirty
five hours in doing anything, whether it's

674
00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:30.960
critical bathing or doing a side quest, you're gonna have a pretty good idea

675
00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:35.519
why people like it and what they
what they do like about it. I

676
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:39.199
feel like I just gotta just lock
myself in and just choose to stream it

677
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:44.119
for some period of time so I'm
forced to play it. I'm feeling exactly

678
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:45.719
the same way. Yeah, streaming
it definitely helped me, at least in

679
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:50.320
the beginning, especially since I'm not
super familiar with some of this dungeons and

680
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:53.639
dragon stuff. I didn't really understand
how spells where it's and like what a

681
00:46:53.760 --> 00:47:00.079
long rest does versus a short rest
kind of things like that. So you

682
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:02.159
been get and just having people tell
me what this is, what I should

683
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:05.440
be doing, and the game is. You know, I talked about that

684
00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:07.960
reverse difficulty curve. There is definitely
a bit of that here. Oh yeah,

685
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:12.760
early on, especially depending on your
party members. Like that's just uh

686
00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:15.320
why it's a very good thing they
locked to at level twelve because basically after

687
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:19.719
that, Oh my understanding is you
become a god comes up the level twenty,

688
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:22.760
and it's like you can like manipulate
time and stuff like that. So

689
00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:25.840
yes, yeah, and like you
know, I had Gale my party,

690
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:30.280
and I think most magic users at
first are just very very weak, and

691
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:32.360
by the end of the game.
Oh Gale is amazing, and uh he

692
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:37.559
could teleport around the battlefield and do
these giant area of effects spells. But

693
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:39.480
in the beginning, it's like,
here's my fireball can trip and it's going

694
00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:45.400
to miss and then I'm going to
get hit once and die. So yeah,

695
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:49.039
uh it's good. So I don't
know if yeah, I don't know

696
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:52.280
if you all think you're gonna spend
much more time with it, but like

697
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:54.639
I have to. I feel like
I have to. Yeah, here's that.

698
00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:58.199
It's funny because like, yeah,
like that is part of why I

699
00:47:58.239 --> 00:48:00.599
went to it. It's I did
sort of feel pressure, and I'm glad

700
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:02.920
I did because I really enjoyed it, but I was kind of feeling guilty

701
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:07.000
a bit not playing more of it. No, I know that, like

702
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:09.679
you, You've been really high on
it the last couple of weeks. Tam

703
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:14.559
Lucy have also been really high on
it, so is Bailey. And I

704
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:17.360
feel like I've tried to restart it
multiple times now, all with the same

705
00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:23.559
character black lesno block. I just
keep bouncing off of it. I don't

706
00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:28.119
know. Maybe it's just because I
whenever I revisit it. Other games are

707
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:30.599
also popping out. Speaking about games. I don't know who put this on

708
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:35.840
the list here steam Deck case.
I got a new case with the steam

709
00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:42.880
Deck. It's from Satisfy. It's
called the stillf Grip. Yeah, st

710
00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:46.079
y l thh stilf. I'm sure
they want you to pronounce that stealth.

711
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:51.199
I'm sure they do, and yet
I'm gonna say stilf. Okay. So

712
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:54.480
this is like the case part of
it, and it like it created uh

713
00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:59.280
snaps on and listeners. I'm gonna
try to describe it. It looks like

714
00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:00.960
a batter rang you know what it
looks like. It looks Yeah, it

715
00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:05.679
looks like when the Batmobile has the
armor on and like, was it Batman

716
00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:07.960
returns or something like that. He
like, oh's press the button and so

717
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:12.920
it goes on the kind it has
the little the wells for the thumb sticks

718
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:15.039
to keep them safe and really what
it is it looks really bulky. But

719
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:21.639
compare this to the actual steam Deck
case and this is actually really slimmed down.

720
00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:23.960
It makes it easier to like throw
into a bag and not worry about

721
00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:28.840
the analog sticks. Yeah it is, man, it's a goofy looking thing,

722
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:30.639
though, is it not? Like
yep, very real? It is.

723
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:35.119
I do not find this to be
aesthetically pleasing. Well you know what

724
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:37.559
it looks like, goofy in a
fun way, I'll say it, sure,

725
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:43.159
sure, yeah, exactly. And
then this snaps onto the front and

726
00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:45.519
then you gotta have like a little
grip thing that happens. And I don't

727
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:51.199
necessarily love this because the steam deck
is already so bulky, but I'll say

728
00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:52.760
this doesn't really get in the way
too much. It adds a little bit

729
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:58.800
of extra rubberized grip stuff here on
the back, and that's pleasant. It

730
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:01.159
doesn't make it worse use, for
sure. I just don't know if I

731
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:05.480
already find the steam deck pretty comfortable
to hold. My problem was never the

732
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:07.159
never the way to hold it.
It was just like the weight. It

733
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:12.639
was a little bit heavy for me. Sure, but I'll having this and

734
00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:15.760
then having the snap on front case. I think I actually will keep using

735
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:19.199
this because I'm getting to a point
where I'm like, oh man, this

736
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:22.159
steam I'll be a real bummer.
If my steam deck thumbsticks stopped working,

737
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:25.320
I would probably get it fixed,
but mostly I probably just set it the

738
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:28.480
side to say I'm gonna get a
fixed and never use it again. And

739
00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:30.039
I like traveling with it, and
I like throwing it in my bag,

740
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:34.599
and I'm pretty irresponsible, so I'll
just like, Okay, we're packing up,

741
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:36.360
I got to get the kids ready. I'm just gonna throw this in

742
00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:38.400
my bag and hope for the best
and having this as a way to like

743
00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:40.440
make sure, ohh no, I
have to hope for the best. This

744
00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:43.760
is going to protect it. This
is straight up gonna keep it safe.

745
00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:46.239
Yeah, that is really nice to
have. So I'm I'm a pretty big

746
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:51.360
fan of the way that this works. Have you considered just starting to wear

747
00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:55.480
cargo shorts grabbing? Yes? In
there on the side, I want to

748
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:59.079
bring cargo I do. I still
do wear cargo shorts. I'm gonna bring

749
00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:00.719
it. I believe that in this
sect. Yeah, of course that's great.

750
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:04.719
And if I had a bigger fanny
pack, maybe would go in there.

751
00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:08.719
I want, but it's not.
It's the biggest fanny pack I can

752
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:12.559
get, like a three x fanny
pack. That's I believe. That's just

753
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:15.519
a messenger bag. Yeah, that's
not fitting my messenger bag either. So

754
00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:21.639
I agree though, like that that
big Honkin valve case that came with the

755
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:25.400
thing is just like yeah, complete, It's just it's luggage. It's luggage.

756
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:31.480
It's gonna take up most of that
bag. And that's you also kind

757
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:34.960
of need it if you want to
keep this thing like secure and safe in

758
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:38.480
terms of scratches and the thumbsticks.
So having this is an alternative. I'm

759
00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:42.239
a big fan of that. And
that's yeah. And I think we're gonna

760
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:44.599
be with the steam deck for a
while, so I'm like, yeah,

761
00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:49.000
I'm gonna keep using this all right. That brings us, folks to the

762
00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:54.079
game of the week. That game
being Alan Wake two, Game of the

763
00:51:54.119 --> 00:52:00.280
Week. Hold on, hold Game
of the Week, Alana two. Yo,

764
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:05.639
Okay back. You seem very excited. Please Yeah, Beckard, Jane,

765
00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:07.559
you guys I think have Mike as
have played at all. I've played

766
00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:10.199
a little bit. I'll talk about
how I'm feeling about it because I want

767
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:19.039
your guys to help. But you
guys seem I'm gonna say enamored. You're

768
00:52:19.039 --> 00:52:23.280
a spooky boy. I'm sure I
don't own spookiness, but I am a

769
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:28.440
spooky boy. Literally have a Jack
O Lan T shirt. It's fucking Halloween,

770
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:37.639
Mike, spooky. Come on,
I mean it for you. You're

771
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:45.360
young, listen, No no one
will ever disagree with that list. Uh,

772
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:51.639
this game is I just cannot I
really cannot understand how much I'm enjoying

773
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:54.199
this game. I just want you
all to know I am freaking out over

774
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:59.320
every minute of this game. It
is doing something for me that I didn't

775
00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:04.440
know I could have done to me. I didn't know I would be able

776
00:53:04.519 --> 00:53:09.239
to experience. I obviously was very
excited about this game leading into the release,

777
00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:15.880
because you know, the entire Remedy
pedigree has treated me very well.

778
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:21.360
So for maybe quantum breaks here and
there, but you know, real great

779
00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:24.880
pedigree, real great track record.
I got all caught up in the control

780
00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:30.599
lore bullshit and the DLC and then
you know, I loved the original Island

781
00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:35.480
make and I really love the fact
that I just didn't quite know what to

782
00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:37.960
expect going into this, right,
like you for my money, I'm like,

783
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:42.320
all right, I'm assuming we're gonna
have some like flashlight combat, We're

784
00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:45.960
gonna have some like you know,
just spooky pages, and we're just gonna

785
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:49.760
we're gonna take this to the next
level and see what really happens with thirteen

786
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:53.519
years in between two titles, right, And what they've done to me is

787
00:53:53.679 --> 00:54:02.320
just such a wildly enjoyable and successful
mixture of all these different ways of narrative

788
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:07.480
storytelling. And I think for me, this game has done what a lot

789
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:15.119
of other heavily narrative and expositionally driven
software and interactive mediums have tried to do

790
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:22.800
right and incorporate a gripping and an
engaging story without fucking just like making you

791
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:25.119
sit there and just let it play
out, right, Yeah, a lot

792
00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:28.599
of cutscenes or whatever it is.
Yeah, So can we talk about the

793
00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:31.400
specifics of how that works, because
I'm like getting on board with that,

794
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:35.440
and I think I understand what you're
saying, what you mean. So I

795
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:38.920
think this game takes a lot borrows
a lot from like True Detective season one,

796
00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:44.000
and certainly like American horror story in
a lot of ways, and Twin

797
00:54:44.039 --> 00:54:49.280
Peaks, and of of course Twin
Peaks, you know with the original of

798
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:52.239
course that I can't speak to,
will have to get some Disney experts away

799
00:54:52.320 --> 00:55:00.760
in on that a little bit.
I just think like they've really it's very

800
00:55:00.880 --> 00:55:04.960
multi dimensional, and how they tell
this story with video overlays like they did

801
00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:09.239
in Control, with just really inventive
like ghosting effects. I just think there's

802
00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:15.519
so many creative ways that this game
is able to like manipulate itself, right,

803
00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:19.320
the illusion of it manipulating itself.
Right, I am positive, like

804
00:55:19.719 --> 00:55:22.559
I'm buckled into the roller coaster,
right, Like I think it's still a

805
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:27.199
roller coaster. But sure it makes
you feel like you're engaged and you are

806
00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:29.960
you're the one pushing the stuff forward, right, even though you might not

807
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:34.039
be. That doesn't matter if you
feel that way exactly. And like again,

808
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:37.639
you know, if you were able
to like blur that line for me,

809
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:42.880
wonderful that you know you've done the
same. Like an open world game

810
00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:45.119
strives to be that kind of thing
as well, right, and it just

811
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:50.800
sort of has to hope that you
kind of trigger all those checkpoints. At

812
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:54.159
the same time, I think this
is definitely much more you know, forced

813
00:55:54.280 --> 00:56:00.519
and much more spoon fed. But
there is something about this game's overall presentation

814
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:07.239
and how it seems to be this
like sort of metamorphosizing organism right where you're

815
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:12.199
just sort of like I'm playing it. I'm a detective. I'm and I'm

816
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:15.440
doing the red string and the and
the corkboard, and I'm doing that,

817
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:17.920
and then I'm doing third person horror
action, and then I'm doing all these

818
00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:22.039
other things, and I'm just really
blown away as how all that stuff comes

819
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:29.280
together so well and so effectively.
I think in a year where like Arisen

820
00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:35.079
Evil four remake comes out, which
is regarded as like the king of you

821
00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:37.760
know, survival horror. Yeah,
but very much. Look, Mike,

822
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:39.920
I'm with you there. That's one
of my favorite games of all time.

823
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:45.119
But I think you play this game
so many months later and you're just like,

824
00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:51.639
holy fuck, this is a twenty
twenty three Survival Hordor successor. It

825
00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:58.760
is a contemporary in the best possible
way and such a satisfying like Evolution where

826
00:56:58.760 --> 00:57:01.599
you're just like, oh man and
Ari four. It's fucking older than like,

827
00:57:01.880 --> 00:57:05.480
you know everything, right, it's
twenty years old, right, is

828
00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:08.480
it not? It's like it's up
there. The remake isn't okay, buddy,

829
00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:10.960
But do you understand what I'm saying. Underneath the hood, it's the

830
00:57:12.039 --> 00:57:15.719
same god damn game. It has
contemporary look, it has contemporary new gig

831
00:57:17.800 --> 00:57:22.119
But are you wait, are you
unable to hear what I'm saying? Like,

832
00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:25.599
yeah, okay, okay, let's
yeah again. I'm never gonna pooh

833
00:57:25.599 --> 00:57:30.639
pooh Resident Evil four. But I
just think to have a game born of

834
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:35.800
this era, born of this contemporary
is a truly wild thing to see because

835
00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:39.239
it's like, fuck, yeah,
survival horror can be this now. This

836
00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:44.320
is the best effort we have now
in that genre, because you know,

837
00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:49.239
don't forget like a lot of the
story telling devices and the story itself and

838
00:57:49.320 --> 00:57:52.840
all the things that are stuck in
that beautiful thing that was Ari four.

839
00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:55.760
Now in allen Wick two, it's
like, this is twenty twenty three.

840
00:57:55.840 --> 00:58:00.440
It is so fresh, it is
so new it is. It has narrative

841
00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:06.760
nuances and and storytelling devices that are
so fresh and feel so new that to

842
00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:13.519
me it is a very like satisfying
evolution of the genre for me, for

843
00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:16.440
my money, and I'm really excited
to play it. I just you know,

844
00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:21.280
I'm going on a vacation on Thursday, and I'm kind of like I

845
00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:24.000
don't want to. Yeah, don't
come back after ten days and try.

846
00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:28.800
That's okay, it You'll be able
to do it. You'll you'll be fine.

847
00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:30.840
I'm telling you, do not start
this game before your trip. Do

848
00:58:31.000 --> 00:58:37.480
not. And I think as much
as horny as Remedy is to like be

849
00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:43.079
episodic and TV seasonal and do all
these things this game. They're doing it

850
00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:46.880
the best. They are able to
hit these like episodic cliffhangers in a really

851
00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:52.559
really awesome way, amazing original music, just like the whole package. Like

852
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:55.400
Stays is watching this game, I'm
like, you have to. I'm like

853
00:58:55.480 --> 00:59:00.239
doing my favor. It's the spooking
time you did. You did Halloween to

854
00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:04.599
be Please let me do this to
you and let just experience. And she

855
00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:09.480
is so gripped and engaged to what
this whole thing is. God, this

856
00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:15.800
game has skyrocketed on my list.
I'm I'm just head over heels for it.

857
00:59:16.079 --> 00:59:19.880
Yeah, how are you finding it? Greg? We talked about this

858
00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:22.519
briefly in How I Felt last week
in Game of Mornings, but I think

859
00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:27.119
I can definitively say, as of
right now, this is my game of

860
00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:30.320
the year. Oh my god,
I mean it's it's and like you know,

861
00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:32.719
I don't. I don't want to
keep too much praise on onto it

862
00:59:32.840 --> 00:59:37.239
to build anyone's expectations and they wind
up being disappointed. But similar to Backlard,

863
00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:42.599
this is firing off on all cylinders
and it feels specifically targeted to me,

864
00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:45.920
and it feels like Sam Blake was
like, Jan, this is this

865
00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:49.159
is for you, Bud. This
is for you. I know you didn't

866
00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:52.880
you only played an hour of Allan
Wake one and you like control and you're

867
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:58.199
curious about checking out Quanta Break.
But this is for you. Everything that

868
00:59:58.239 --> 01:00:04.119
Backlar said times times three. There's
a lot of clever storytelling stuff and just

869
01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:09.840
how empowered you feel as the player, specifically as Saga Anderson, and Yo

870
01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:15.119
shouts out, the fucking Saga Anderson. What a character, great name.

871
01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:20.880
I think one of the best characters
to come out in recent years. I'm

872
01:00:20.920 --> 01:00:23.559
not saying the best, but like
one of the best. The way that

873
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:32.719
they intertwine live action elements gameplay elements
absolutely stunning and fantastic. We haven't really

874
01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:37.400
talked about how great the game looks. Oh my god, I'm playing on

875
01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:43.320
a PS five on performance mode.
Absolutely stunning. And hey, you know,

876
01:00:43.679 --> 01:00:46.119
a big mechanic of this game is
the flashlight. But the way that

877
01:00:46.199 --> 01:00:51.760
they play with lights or the absence
of lights absolutely fantastic. There's an obscene

878
01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:53.800
amount of coffee in this game,
so you know, I'm already. I'm

879
01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:58.679
already and the big thought about you
coffee, I gotta get you an allen

880
01:00:58.679 --> 01:01:01.920
Wick Thermis or something. Man one
right over there. Oh cool, send

881
01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:07.280
it to Jen. That's mine.
Okay, bye by Mike. Oh look

882
01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:14.199
at the jamis. Look at those
Yeah, I kind of want to grab

883
01:01:14.239 --> 01:01:17.400
one of those. I don't normally
buy a lot of gaming memorabilia. Look

884
01:01:17.400 --> 01:01:23.920
at that jump scarecrub. But it's
just something about it is just firing off

885
01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:27.519
on all cylinders. And then like
you know, the undertones of the story

886
01:01:27.719 --> 01:01:34.800
of Alan trying to grip with the
overwhelming pressure of like what happened in the

887
01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:40.000
last thirteen years. Oh shit,
I got a right and like the pressure

888
01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:44.480
of being a creative and it's not
like, yes, it's a thirteen year

889
01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:50.119
gap from Alan Wake one to two, but this brings in elements from control

890
01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:53.239
very heavily, right out of the
gate too, right out of the gate,

891
01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:58.679
And I can't speak to what it
incorporates from Quantum Break, but I'm

892
01:01:58.719 --> 01:02:04.639
sure that it heavily considers those bits. I can see where people will get

893
01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:10.440
frustrated with some of the puzzle stuff
because it feels like you are given a

894
01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:17.719
pretty long leash to explore, but
not given enough information as to where to

895
01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:23.599
go and what to do and how
to play within those rules. I do

896
01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:28.280
occasionally get a little bit lost in
some of the maps, and I'll give

897
01:02:28.320 --> 01:02:32.679
it that some of the specific little
puzzles I've gotten frustrated at, And maybe

898
01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:39.199
that's just because we play games so
weird sometimes where we have to like go

899
01:02:39.400 --> 01:02:44.119
find the critical path but also try
and explore and speed through the game as

900
01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:47.960
fast as possible. But this is
one of those games where just sitting there

901
01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:52.280
watching it and just experiencing, I'm
like, I'm trying to breathe this as

902
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:54.960
much of it in because I just
wanted to fill my lungs because I just

903
01:02:55.199 --> 01:03:00.320
love it so much. And you
know, if you are a bit fan

904
01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:06.119
of control and didn't really like Alan
Wake one that much, there is plenty

905
01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:10.800
for you control freaks out there,
yep. And it's there's a lot of

906
01:03:10.880 --> 01:03:17.599
cheap pops built into it, and
it really puts over everything that has come

907
01:03:17.639 --> 01:03:22.079
before it in Remedy's wheelhouse, and
this is Remedy firing right off, firing

908
01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:25.719
off on all cylinders, and like
the budget and the money behind it definitely

909
01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:30.119
shows. Yeah. So I'm definitely
in the position where I am afraid of

910
01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:34.639
bouncing off of it. And you
nailed exactly what the issue was for me.

911
01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:39.079
Is the X, the navigating the
map where I'm feeling a little bit

912
01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:44.920
lost, which I have a pretty
short attention span for that sort of thing,

913
01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:46.159
and I think a lot of that
is on me. And I want

914
01:03:46.239 --> 01:03:50.239
to like this game, so I'm
trying to get in there and get the

915
01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:52.840
hang of things, and I think
I'm starting to do that. It's just

916
01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:57.239
there is an order of operations that
you need to pay attention to in the

917
01:03:57.320 --> 01:04:00.480
game, and you need to play
things that way. So I was supposed

918
01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:02.639
to be finding this object, and
so I'm like looking for it, but

919
01:04:02.760 --> 01:04:05.000
it's like, well, no you're
not. Don't look for it. Don't

920
01:04:05.239 --> 01:04:10.079
be an idiot. You got to
go to your mind place and put some

921
01:04:10.239 --> 01:04:13.000
pictures down first, and then we're
basically going to tell you where to find

922
01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:15.199
it. And I'm like, oh, okay. And I had been to

923
01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:17.639
the place where this this object ended
up being, and I was right next

924
01:04:17.679 --> 01:04:20.199
to it, and I could have
found it if the game would have let

925
01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:23.480
me. But the game's not gonna
let me until I do it in it's

926
01:04:23.519 --> 01:04:27.840
certain order of operations, and I
think it's it is very much like the

927
01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:32.320
Haunted House, the roller Coaster of
You're gonna walk across these thresholds, and

928
01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:34.960
music's gonna start playing. And then
if you want to go back and oh

929
01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:38.119
I forgot something, let me go
get that. You're gonna come back.

930
01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:40.440
You're gonna cross the same threshold.
The music is going to be playing the

931
01:04:40.480 --> 01:04:43.079
exact same way, in the exact
same spot. And I think for the

932
01:04:43.119 --> 01:04:45.760
most part, that is not a
problem. It's like, no, this

933
01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:47.519
is the game they belt You just
need to like play along the way the

934
01:04:47.559 --> 01:04:50.719
game needs you to play along.
And it's taken me a second to get

935
01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:54.039
the hang of that. Yeah,
I think I think I am getting the

936
01:04:54.079 --> 01:04:56.599
hang of it. I am returning
to the mind place now every chance I

937
01:04:56.639 --> 01:04:59.599
see the little emblem, now,
oh I have something to do in my

938
01:04:59.679 --> 01:05:02.079
mind place. Let me go do
that before I do anything else, because

939
01:05:02.159 --> 01:05:05.639
because you need to and like and
it just like speaks to what you said.

940
01:05:05.639 --> 01:05:10.360
We're saying backlare the variety of ways
that they enable that they tell the

941
01:05:10.400 --> 01:05:15.079
story. It's in all this gameplay. It's in all the traditional remedy stuff

942
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:17.599
of Yeah, there's gonna be cut
scenes, there's gonna be dialogue between the

943
01:05:17.679 --> 01:05:23.440
characters, there's gonna be little snippets
of commercials of live action stuff on the

944
01:05:23.519 --> 01:05:26.840
TV. Then those characters are gonna
show up and they're gonna have little moments.

945
01:05:26.920 --> 01:05:30.639
They're gonna talk about even more stuff. You're gonna overhear conversations, You're

946
01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:33.159
gonna have a weird little jump scares, you're gonna find the pages. It's

947
01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:39.039
all feeding into the narrative in such
a strong way that that is really pulling

948
01:05:39.079 --> 01:05:42.800
me in. They are presenting interesting
questions, they are now giving me the

949
01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:45.360
tools to understand how to get the
answers to those questions. And as I'm

950
01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:48.039
like feeling my way through that,
I'm getting more and more into it.

951
01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:50.679
So I'm no I no longer think
I'm gonna bounce off. But there was

952
01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:55.199
a chance there where I'm like,
man, this world is pushing me away.

953
01:05:55.480 --> 01:06:00.199
The Beckler go ahead, I was
gonna say that. I think I

954
01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:05.880
was very surprised with how well I
thought the game taught me to use.

955
01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:10.960
The mind space. Is that what's
called the mind place where the mind mind

956
01:06:11.039 --> 01:06:14.679
place, Yes, mind keep calling
it the palace. It's based on the

957
01:06:14.719 --> 01:06:21.760
minds, and that is just basically
an area inside Saga's mind where she's putting

958
01:06:21.800 --> 01:06:28.519
together all of the you know,
red cars, and it's also a way

959
01:06:28.559 --> 01:06:34.039
that the game kind of like cleverly
cleverly that word tracks your progress with like

960
01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:38.960
collectible stuff and other things. And
I just think it's a really inventive kind

961
01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:41.119
of way to do it. That's
what I think. It's what keeps you

962
01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:45.199
engaged, right because you're on the
you're on their path. It is defined

963
01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:49.519
path exactly. And this is not
like Outer Wilds where you have a board

964
01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:51.960
up there and you're going to be
figuring stuff out and now you're going to

965
01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:55.159
go out and like, oh,
this makes me think I should try that,

966
01:06:55.199 --> 01:06:56.920
I should do that. No,
that's not how this game works.

967
01:06:57.400 --> 01:07:01.519
It is very prescriptive. But because
you are going through the act of putting

968
01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:05.239
up the board and answering questions and
like just putting a picture on that thing

969
01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:10.000
and then getting an answer and then
that gives you a new question, you

970
01:07:10.159 --> 01:07:13.159
feel more attached to what's happening.
And I think that's really smart. And

971
01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:16.880
it reinforces this story too, like
I think that gets lost so often where

972
01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:19.480
you're just like, the fuck was
that guy's name? Why am I caring

973
01:07:19.480 --> 01:07:23.360
about this? Though so many games
tell you something once and they're like,

974
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:25.360
what we told you, You're fucking
on your own, and I'm like,

975
01:07:25.440 --> 01:07:28.760
Homie, I have ADHD. You
got to tell me three times, and

976
01:07:28.800 --> 01:07:30.800
you got to tell me each time
in a different way. You gotta write

977
01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:31.880
it down, you got to show
me a video, and we got to

978
01:07:31.880 --> 01:07:34.599
have characters say it. And like
this game actually does that. It does,

979
01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:38.599
and it does it in a way
that is not like, oh,

980
01:07:38.679 --> 01:07:41.880
we think you're stupid, which I
am, but like the game's not treating

981
01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:44.079
me that way. It is very
much doing the thing where it's like,

982
01:07:44.199 --> 01:07:46.079
no, we understand that there's a
lot going on and there's a lot of

983
01:07:46.119 --> 01:07:50.039
proper nouns, and we are going
to make sure that we spoon feed you

984
01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:53.360
a little bit, but in a
way that is always going to be different

985
01:07:53.400 --> 01:07:58.480
and interesting every time, for sure. For sure. It's it's very I'm

986
01:07:58.760 --> 01:08:03.920
as engaged in trying to anticipate how
this game is going to let me play

987
01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:08.800
it as I am. Like the
story moments and the beats and all that,

988
01:08:09.199 --> 01:08:13.440
the the the sort of you know, villainous cult right that you're sort

989
01:08:13.480 --> 01:08:16.159
of tracking down, Like I think
that's great, all that stuff's real fun.

990
01:08:16.279 --> 01:08:19.960
But also it's like, man,
I really don't know how this game

991
01:08:20.039 --> 01:08:24.359
is gonna treat me next, and
I think that to me is equally as

992
01:08:24.439 --> 01:08:27.560
thrilling. The first sort of main
boss that you fight in this game,

993
01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:31.720
it's fucking horrifying, Like it is
straight up horrifying. Like I'm sorry,

994
01:08:32.399 --> 01:08:35.920
not a lot of games really spook
me anymore. This is a scary fucking

995
01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:41.279
game. And I'm loving and I'm
just loving, and there's like, I

996
01:08:41.319 --> 01:08:44.479
don't know, I feel like this. Last night, I was like,

997
01:08:44.800 --> 01:08:46.800
is this game doing something that I'm
not sure it's doing, Like is it

998
01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:49.920
is it cheating for me? I
think it does do that. I think

999
01:08:49.960 --> 01:08:53.800
it does like get easier for you, which is not the first, not

1000
01:08:53.880 --> 01:08:57.079
the first game to do that.
But I also think like there's there's some

1001
01:08:57.239 --> 01:09:00.640
slide of hand stuff going on,
where like environments in a way that you're

1002
01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:04.760
sort of not expecting and and sometimes
lead you back to where you need to

1003
01:09:04.800 --> 01:09:10.399
be without actually cutting off, without
stacking the furniture in the hospital, you

1004
01:09:10.439 --> 01:09:12.640
know what I mean. Like there
is some of that, But I think

1005
01:09:12.680 --> 01:09:16.520
this game's doing just a lot of
inventive things to keep you on the roller

1006
01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:19.079
coaster and to keep you engaged.
And like I said, I mean,

1007
01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:26.439
if it's not clear, I am
I'm completely smitten. Yeah, I was

1008
01:09:26.479 --> 01:09:31.520
gonna say that. It's also deals
with the with exploration and finding all the

1009
01:09:31.640 --> 01:09:38.600
side stuff really well and incorporating that
into the greater story, but also making

1010
01:09:38.680 --> 01:09:42.600
sure that it actually matters that you
did kind of veer off the critical path

1011
01:09:42.640 --> 01:09:45.079
and like Okay, yeah, cool
you are. This will prove to be

1012
01:09:45.239 --> 01:09:48.680
useful down the line, not only
from a player perspective, but also from

1013
01:09:48.680 --> 01:09:54.039
a story aspect. Mm. I
agree that it is scary. It is

1014
01:09:54.079 --> 01:09:57.319
a spooky game, for sure,
but if that is off putting you and

1015
01:09:57.359 --> 01:10:01.079
stopping you from trying to pick up
Alan Wake too, I think it being

1016
01:10:02.239 --> 01:10:05.119
other than like the the jump scares, where it's like the static you're like

1017
01:10:05.239 --> 01:10:15.399
a type of stuff. It kind
of really uh uh projects to the player

1018
01:10:15.439 --> 01:10:18.039
of like, hey, this is
when you're gonna be into combat. Otherwise

1019
01:10:18.319 --> 01:10:24.439
you're chilling, You're cool to explore
around. You will come across some spooky

1020
01:10:24.479 --> 01:10:28.079
bits here and there, and like
the little jump scariest things or audio design

1021
01:10:28.119 --> 01:10:35.359
will change. But if you're a
little scaredy cat, I implore that's a

1022
01:10:35.439 --> 01:10:41.760
jump scare. Mike, haven't you
been paying attention? I implore you to

1023
01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:45.399
to try try and be a little, little, little brave buddy of mine

1024
01:10:45.560 --> 01:10:48.239
and check it out, because there
is so much under the hood here that

1025
01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:54.520
is absolutely insane. Also, if
you're not familiar with Alan Wick one or

1026
01:10:54.720 --> 01:10:59.600
Control, I think the way that
they frame the story with Saga Anderson being

1027
01:11:00.159 --> 01:11:03.840
new to this whole world completely yeap
works as a great vehicle for someone new

1028
01:11:03.920 --> 01:11:10.840
to the series like myself, where
you're finding stuff out just like at the

1029
01:11:10.880 --> 01:11:13.800
same time she is, and you're
all piecing this together, and as she

1030
01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:17.159
is exploring her mind place, you
are exploring your mind place within this world

1031
01:11:17.279 --> 01:11:23.039
of remedy. It feels like the
story isn't starting in the beginning of a

1032
01:11:23.119 --> 01:11:26.760
sequel. It feels like it is
starting a media rez which is a good

1033
01:11:26.840 --> 01:11:28.479
thing to pull off. If you
could do that, you should do that.

1034
01:11:28.520 --> 01:11:30.960
Where it's like, oh no,
this is just a backstory for this

1035
01:11:30.159 --> 01:11:32.560
game. It's not oh, what
happened in the last game and it's so

1036
01:11:32.600 --> 01:11:35.720
important, and it is important,
but it's important in the way that any

1037
01:11:35.800 --> 01:11:41.079
sort of like, well, hey
where we started here, and events happened

1038
01:11:41.359 --> 01:11:44.479
and they affected these characters. But
as they reveal these things, they talk

1039
01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:46.479
about it and they explained how it
made them feel and then so you get

1040
01:11:46.520 --> 01:11:48.479
filled in that way, and that
makes it just feel like, Okay,

1041
01:11:48.560 --> 01:11:55.560
no, we're telling a cohesive story
right now. I'll say, like you

1042
01:11:55.720 --> 01:11:58.600
talked a little bit about more about
the exploration, I'm not like a huge

1043
01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:01.119
fan of games where it is we're
just gonna be kind of walking around and

1044
01:12:01.159 --> 01:12:04.439
we're gonna be looking for stuff in
a corner and and hopefully there's something there.

1045
01:12:04.680 --> 01:12:06.960
I'll say that this game, like
you said, you mentioned this,

1046
01:12:08.680 --> 01:12:15.159
usually there is something there, and
it's not so expansive that you're gonna feel

1047
01:12:15.239 --> 01:12:17.720
really super lost. You're gonna get
a little bit turned around, you're gonna

1048
01:12:17.720 --> 01:12:20.640
have to load up the map,
and it doesn't load up the fastest,

1049
01:12:20.680 --> 01:12:25.600
but it's it's it's usually fine,
and you're gonna to reorient yourself and get

1050
01:12:25.640 --> 01:12:27.800
around. And I'm like, once
I started doing that again, I got

1051
01:12:27.840 --> 01:12:30.880
the hang of it a little bit
and then I'm like, oh, this

1052
01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:33.000
isn't the worst exploration. There are
different games that that, uh, that

1053
01:12:33.279 --> 01:12:36.680
do this worse or push push me
away more with the exploration, and I

1054
01:12:36.920 --> 01:12:41.279
and I have found enough of these
like little extras in the world that I

1055
01:12:41.319 --> 01:12:43.800
feel like, oh, hey,
I'm not wasting my time, and that's

1056
01:12:43.840 --> 01:12:45.119
a big part of it. I've
never felt like I was wasting my time.

1057
01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:48.680
Just getting a little bit turned around, that's all. I don't know

1058
01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:54.359
what it is. Yeah, I
if anyone can recommend any more literature or

1059
01:12:54.439 --> 01:12:58.920
other pieces of media that are in
this whole uh world, or the style

1060
01:12:59.039 --> 01:13:01.439
of storytelling, please recommend it to
me. I want to. I do

1061
01:13:01.560 --> 01:13:05.520
want to replay Control now. Yeah, yeah, I never I never played

1062
01:13:05.560 --> 01:13:10.840
the DEALC for Control. Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's probably. I

1063
01:13:10.880 --> 01:13:15.520
mean, I think that tell that
that does explain a good amount, especially

1064
01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:19.479
at the beginning. I think the
map. I agree, the map is

1065
01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:26.199
not great. It's not Control levels
of bad, but it is certainly not

1066
01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:30.039
great. I think, you know, I guess like getting to the map

1067
01:13:30.159 --> 01:13:31.520
is also kind of a pain in
the ass too. I mean, I

1068
01:13:31.760 --> 01:13:35.319
I hold down select to go right
to the map. Oh that okay,

1069
01:13:35.359 --> 01:13:38.279
that'll do it. Okay, yeah, you hold it. But but it

1070
01:13:38.359 --> 01:13:41.000
does take a little bit longer to
load than to go to the right place.

1071
01:13:41.119 --> 01:13:44.920
Mind place load's instantly, which is
wild. The especially that first area

1072
01:13:45.239 --> 01:13:48.239
you're in, you know, things
are, it's dark, it's rainy,

1073
01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:53.960
you are really struggling to find like
that one singular path, like it's I

1074
01:13:54.079 --> 01:13:56.359
get it. I think that does
add to it. I think that,

1075
01:13:56.560 --> 01:13:59.800
you know, obviously that's a deliberate
choice, uh you know, to get

1076
01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:03.279
turned around a bunch like that.
But yeah, that that to me,

1077
01:14:03.439 --> 01:14:05.960
that's been the only thing out of
the gate that I've sort of been like,

1078
01:14:06.119 --> 01:14:10.880
oh that that can be tedious and
cumbersome. And you know, I

1079
01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:15.520
think occasionally you do find not like
full glitching out, but you do find

1080
01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:20.039
a little bit of uh handcuffing with
with maybe some movement and stuff like that.

1081
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:26.039
Early on you getta like understand how
the characters move exactly kind of they

1082
01:14:26.880 --> 01:14:29.479
kind of shimmey to the sigh and
they're not going to like animate like they're

1083
01:14:29.479 --> 01:14:31.199
walking the right. It's like,
no, they're definitely right strafe and I'm

1084
01:14:31.239 --> 01:14:33.800
fine with that. But it's like, oh, okay, figure that a

1085
01:14:33.880 --> 01:14:36.640
little bit. I did play this
on the Roger Ally a little bit,

1086
01:14:38.079 --> 01:14:41.159
and it's you have to go into
your settings and set the on the on

1087
01:14:41.239 --> 01:14:45.760
the on the ally and set the
RAM usage for the GPU to auto.

1088
01:14:45.239 --> 01:14:48.399
And because I think it defaults to
four gigabytes and this game will not work

1089
01:14:48.439 --> 01:14:50.439
with that, it just would straight
up will tell you, no, there's

1090
01:14:50.479 --> 01:14:54.600
not enough RAM here. Uh so
you set to auto and then it will

1091
01:14:54.640 --> 01:14:58.439
warn you there's still not enough RAM. The game runs pretty okay, it's

1092
01:14:58.560 --> 01:15:04.000
just when you are exploring, having
that lower fidelity kind of be like,

1093
01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:06.479
wait, am I am I seeing
what I'm what I think I'm seeing,

1094
01:15:06.600 --> 01:15:12.119
or it's just kind of just smudgie
graphics that could be that can add to

1095
01:15:12.279 --> 01:15:14.399
some of the frustration. And as
soon as I was back playing on the

1096
01:15:14.479 --> 01:15:16.920
forty ninety, I had no problem
anymore. And I'm like, okay,

1097
01:15:17.079 --> 01:15:21.119
so you can play it on one
of these handhelds. I probably wouldn't recommend

1098
01:15:21.119 --> 01:15:24.159
it. And if you are going
to play it on there, maybe stream

1099
01:15:24.199 --> 01:15:27.000
it from a real PC instead.
That might be the real option there.

1100
01:15:27.119 --> 01:15:30.239
And yeah, we didn't talk that
much about the fidelity. I know you

1101
01:15:30.279 --> 01:15:36.039
said Channel Experienced five it is oh
man, there is something going on with

1102
01:15:36.119 --> 01:15:42.239
this, with this it's stuff.
It's really just taking advantage of all that.

1103
01:15:42.319 --> 01:15:44.600
What's that, Mike, As I
said, it's epic games money,

1104
01:15:44.680 --> 01:15:46.199
is what I think. Yeah,
definitely helping you. Yeah, yeah,

1105
01:15:46.439 --> 01:15:49.560
you know, I will, I
will, I will deal with that horrific

1106
01:15:49.760 --> 01:15:54.159
piece of software. If if,
if you know, I want, if

1107
01:15:54.199 --> 01:15:58.760
I have to, you know,
control to delete an end Epic Games Store

1108
01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:02.520
fifteen times before or Alan Wade too
will launch appropriately. It's worth it for

1109
01:16:02.640 --> 01:16:06.279
the amount of mister ray tracing going
on in this thing. And if you

1110
01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:11.840
have a BVS system like we're fortunate
to have with those nzx T machines,

1111
01:16:11.880 --> 01:16:16.960
Holy goddamn shit, does this game
look absolutely It has the global illumination and

1112
01:16:17.119 --> 01:16:23.279
it's a ray reconstruction three point five. It is, you know, one

1113
01:16:23.279 --> 01:16:26.239
of the first games to take advantage
of much of that stuff. And boy

1114
01:16:26.319 --> 01:16:30.800
it works. I mean it's a
flashlight game, and they always thought flashlight

1115
01:16:30.880 --> 01:16:33.800
games with ray tracing and raid reconstruction
would be amazing. It turns out.

1116
01:16:34.119 --> 01:16:39.399
Yes. I tried it on a
thirty eighty and I was like, nah,

1117
01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:44.399
dog like that. I know that
sounds. It actually steals down to

1118
01:16:44.520 --> 01:16:45.439
run on the lot of stop.
It's good. It scales down and it's

1119
01:16:45.439 --> 01:16:49.239
gonna run just fine. But boy, those extra bells and whistles are not

1120
01:16:49.479 --> 01:16:54.600
just extra bells and whistle They do
contribute greatly to the experience. Yeah,

1121
01:16:54.680 --> 01:16:59.680
I mean it. The default settings
took off ray tracing on my thirty eighty.

1122
01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:05.680
Yeah, there to enjoy that rate
thirty two thousand life. Whatever the

1123
01:17:05.720 --> 01:17:13.159
hell you guys have does the PS
five do have very tracing in that quality

1124
01:17:13.279 --> 01:17:16.279
version. I didn't scan through the
settings. They said, it's uh by

1125
01:17:16.279 --> 01:17:20.319
the I mean the digital foundry.
That's that's what I'm asking about. Yeah,

1126
01:17:20.439 --> 01:17:23.600
I think I think it probably has
some I don't know if it has

1127
01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:27.880
global illumination. Yeah, it probably
probably has, like shadows and stuff.

1128
01:17:28.560 --> 01:17:31.600
Yeah, it's I mean, look, this is the wettest, flash lightiest

1129
01:17:31.720 --> 01:17:40.319
game you'll ever play. And the
reflections and all that ship yo, I

1130
01:17:40.760 --> 01:17:44.199
like it is like that that first
thing with Dusk with the with the sun

1131
01:17:44.319 --> 01:17:47.000
going through the trees when you holy
You're just like, yeah, I honestly,

1132
01:17:47.119 --> 01:17:50.199
I'm not gonna lie like I have
to sit up close playing this game.

1133
01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:53.439
Do you guys find that too?
We're like, I don't know if

1134
01:17:53.479 --> 01:17:57.880
you guys play games only on your
PC monitor. I'm sitting within like four

1135
01:17:57.960 --> 01:18:00.119
feet of this thing. I need
to. I want to be up and

1136
01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:02.000
its ship. I'm gonna connect it
to this TV over here, which I

1137
01:18:02.039 --> 01:18:05.600
have pretty close to my my my
gamer chair. Yeah, and I'm gonna

1138
01:18:05.600 --> 01:18:08.920
get up and I'm gonna get up
in that ass. You gotta get up

1139
01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:12.800
in this ship. Man, there's
too much. There's a lot of crevices,

1140
01:18:12.840 --> 01:18:15.680
there's a lot of wounds you want
to inspect. Like, you gotta

1141
01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:21.600
get up in that ship. Don't
worry about it. Mic even human penises.

1142
01:18:21.800 --> 01:18:27.039
Penises cool. The last thing I'll
say about it is I've seen some

1143
01:18:27.159 --> 01:18:30.880
scuttle butt saying like, oh,
we should just on Arlan away Charlotte.

1144
01:18:30.880 --> 01:18:33.239
I'm like, no, no,
no, you were missing You're missing the

1145
01:18:33.279 --> 01:18:38.479
point completely. And I think I
said this about thirteen sentinels during the Game

1146
01:18:38.520 --> 01:18:44.800
of the Year when whatever year that
was. But like this is another proof.

1147
01:18:47.720 --> 01:18:54.199
This is another proof of concept where
video if like there's some fucking great

1148
01:18:54.239 --> 01:18:58.479
debate about video games being art.
This is like example one A and one

1149
01:18:58.560 --> 01:19:02.000
B, because like this is the
type of storytelling and type of journey that

1150
01:19:02.319 --> 01:19:06.560
can only be pulled off in the
medium of video games. Yeah, Like,

1151
01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:13.439
my wife is watching the current American
Horror Story am I, and it's

1152
01:19:13.479 --> 01:19:15.119
like half hour and tell them like
too, and she's like this is already

1153
01:19:15.159 --> 01:19:18.800
better than the newest season of American
Horror Story. And I'm like that,

1154
01:19:19.760 --> 01:19:23.800
and you know, like she's like
I said, she's a horror weirdo,

1155
01:19:25.319 --> 01:19:28.960
I think. But to be fair
what you said about Alan Wick two and

1156
01:19:29.119 --> 01:19:33.039
n HBO, I do think Sam
Lake would probably love going that happened.

1157
01:19:33.159 --> 01:19:40.079
But yeah, yeah, yeah,
the game, the game will dictate the

1158
01:19:40.159 --> 01:19:43.600
show and not the other way around, right, Like that's yeah. I

1159
01:19:43.640 --> 01:19:47.760
think this is the game where I'm
like, I don't know if it's for

1160
01:19:47.920 --> 01:19:51.600
me, like proving that games are
like I just got Tom playing supermar Brothers

1161
01:19:51.640 --> 01:19:55.359
wonder, I'm like, no,
this proves it. What this game proves

1162
01:19:55.359 --> 01:19:58.439
for me though, is, uh, they need to stop trying to make

1163
01:19:58.479 --> 01:20:02.600
games be like movies. Yeah,
if you have movie like ideas, you

1164
01:20:02.840 --> 01:20:06.279
make a fucking video game still,
because what you end up with is alan

1165
01:20:06.359 --> 01:20:10.760
Wake two and all that stuff just
ends up making your video game that much

1166
01:20:10.840 --> 01:20:13.840
more cool if you lean into what
makes it a video game. Uh.

1167
01:20:14.079 --> 01:20:17.840
And I think that Remedy seems to
be the one studio that really really understands

1168
01:20:17.880 --> 01:20:21.760
that at this point. I suppose, you know, near automata is when

1169
01:20:21.800 --> 01:20:25.640
the people point to a lot as
being able to do that with its multiple

1170
01:20:25.720 --> 01:20:28.720
endings and things like that. But
this is like, I think this is

1171
01:20:28.760 --> 01:20:30.199
carrying forward that legacy, and we're
hearing the new game Plus is going to

1172
01:20:30.279 --> 01:20:32.920
change up the narrative and stuff.
So it's like, yep, they're existing

1173
01:20:32.960 --> 01:20:36.159
in that same space, So let's
let's go. I can't wait. Yeah,

1174
01:20:36.159 --> 01:20:40.079
I mean, I think it's funny
that, for whatever reason, on

1175
01:20:40.239 --> 01:20:45.239
this website and podcast we've we've brought
up the concept of in media res several

1176
01:20:45.359 --> 01:20:48.279
times across the board, but that
we're much of the Roman Empire and the

1177
01:20:48.399 --> 01:20:54.199
Latin stuff. Yeah, it's that
is like such a simple concept to drop

1178
01:20:54.319 --> 01:20:58.960
into storytelling in a video game that
works so well, and I don't think

1179
01:20:59.479 --> 01:21:02.479
a lot of game try and use
that type of concept of storytelling or that

1180
01:21:02.640 --> 01:21:05.439
that type of narrative device, or
if they do, it sucks, like

1181
01:21:05.439 --> 01:21:10.399
the beginning of Metal Gear Solid five
well yeah, well yeah, yeah,

1182
01:21:10.479 --> 01:21:12.600
yeah. A lot of people do
the thing where it's like, you know,

1183
01:21:12.720 --> 01:21:15.159
they start a game and an exciting
actions sequence, then they're like ten

1184
01:21:15.279 --> 01:21:19.079
days earlier, and then it's just
completely linear from there until you catch up,

1185
01:21:19.079 --> 01:21:26.159
which is I think this game literally
does ten days earlier. Literally ten

1186
01:21:26.279 --> 01:21:29.079
days. I think it's exactly that
number. Just a shot in the dark

1187
01:21:29.159 --> 01:21:32.399
there. Man. I love this
so much. It's great. It's great.

1188
01:21:33.359 --> 01:21:38.520
Also, the uh, we've got
the game spot review cast version of

1189
01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:42.840
this review if you want to check
it out. I know the game Spot

1190
01:21:43.279 --> 01:21:45.479
gang gave it a ten. Yep, they're into it, give it a

1191
01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:48.880
ten. So if you want to
listen to that review, yes, get

1192
01:21:48.960 --> 01:21:55.479
the podcast. I've been I've been
making notes in my own mind palace mind

1193
01:21:55.560 --> 01:22:00.079
place like like I would be making
my own review, and I'll just I

1194
01:22:00.560 --> 01:22:03.800
can constantly say if I ever put
something together and actually wrote more than a

1195
01:22:03.880 --> 01:22:09.520
paragraph about something or two sentences,
easy, five out of five for this.

1196
01:22:09.680 --> 01:22:15.239
Yeah, all the Giant Boss out
of twenty. Okay, I don't

1197
01:22:15.279 --> 01:22:18.560
know what he gave resid eval for
Calm Down. That's a nineteen out of

1198
01:22:18.600 --> 01:22:21.520
twenty. This is a twenty out
of twenty. All right, folks,

1199
01:22:23.119 --> 01:22:25.560
That's been a lot of games,
and look forward to more games. Talk

1200
01:22:26.199 --> 01:22:30.600
later this week on Chiabomb Revengeance.
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1201
01:22:30.720 --> 01:22:32.600
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five hundred to try Audible free for
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01:23:42.359 --> 01:23:48.000
of Alan Awake and Control would be
better served if people just wore headlamps.

1216
01:23:49.600 --> 01:23:57.880
That's it. And headlamps and sexy
people. I'm just like an elastic bandy

1217
01:23:57.960 --> 01:24:01.720
over your forehead and I'm like,
wow, look this and that like six

1218
01:24:01.880 --> 01:24:03.840
or seven of those things. I
love them so much. And then you

1219
01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:09.680
can get like the like the cool
cool ones that have like the red lights

1220
01:24:09.720 --> 01:24:13.920
so it doesn't mess up your night
vision. I used that occasionally. I

1221
01:24:14.039 --> 01:24:17.039
used it when I was getting those
hornets that turned into that GB animated.

1222
01:24:17.399 --> 01:24:21.119
I was wearing a red lamp so
they wouldn't come at the light. They

1223
01:24:21.159 --> 01:24:25.479
still came at me though, it
still came. Did they come, Well,

1224
01:24:25.520 --> 01:24:29.159
they came. They came to you, Jeff Grub, because they wanted

1225
01:24:29.319 --> 01:24:43.319
the news. This is okay,
all right, first news story is Backlar.

1226
01:24:43.319 --> 01:24:45.640
What are you gonna have for Halloween
dinner? I want? I'm just

1227
01:24:45.640 --> 01:24:48.399
curious, I need, I need
some help. Halloween dinner were so much

1228
01:24:48.439 --> 01:24:53.359
candy. Like what do you do
for it's a it's a pizza night like

1229
01:24:55.159 --> 01:24:59.920
we're doing. I think we're doing
three two piles of Buffalo chicken two Grandma

1230
01:25:00.239 --> 01:25:08.039
pies. It's just like rectangular pizza, like thicker cross, rectangle, rectangle.

1231
01:25:08.399 --> 01:25:16.119
That's just young pizza. Cool.
No, I don't know, I

1232
01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:19.159
don't it can sounds they could be
the strict Here where I live, they

1233
01:25:19.199 --> 01:25:23.399
call it Grandma Pies. I'm sure
you have a cute little Midwestern name.

1234
01:25:23.439 --> 01:25:27.520
For it, and yeah, and
then probably just like a bunch of salads.

1235
01:25:27.520 --> 01:25:29.880
We'll do like a caesar, we'll
do like a house salad will do.

1236
01:25:30.720 --> 01:25:32.800
How would you make a salad?
Spooky? You don't, it's just

1237
01:25:33.319 --> 01:25:40.880
you don't. Yeah, No,
that's normal, that's normal. Viniagarette,

1238
01:25:40.920 --> 01:25:45.279
Yeah, vegetables, it's a salad. Yet, well that's scary to me.

1239
01:25:46.039 --> 01:25:50.079
I like, we got to feed
more people than I'd like to be

1240
01:25:50.159 --> 01:25:53.319
feeding. So it's like, you
know, you're just gonna get what you

1241
01:25:53.439 --> 01:25:56.159
get and not canna be upset.
You know, get what you get.

1242
01:25:56.239 --> 01:25:59.840
You don't throw a fit. All
right, let's get to this news.

1243
01:26:00.479 --> 01:26:03.000
Starting with the bad news. As
has been our custom for the last couple

1244
01:26:03.039 --> 01:26:06.640
of weeks, there's been more layoffs, this time at Bungee Bungie, the

1245
01:26:06.680 --> 01:26:11.439
developers of Destiny, have laid off
employees. The scope of the layoffs isn't

1246
01:26:11.520 --> 01:26:15.319
currently fully clear, based on the
people posting on social media yesterday, seems

1247
01:26:15.359 --> 01:26:21.479
pretty wide sweeping. Though Bungie has
also reportedly delayed Destiny's Destiny Too's next expansion

1248
01:26:21.720 --> 01:26:26.399
that's going to come out like later
next year, and the Marathon, their

1249
01:26:26.520 --> 01:26:30.439
new game isn't going to come out
till twenty twenty five. Now, all

1250
01:26:30.439 --> 01:26:32.520
of these these layoffs, these delays
come about a year and a half after

1251
01:26:32.680 --> 01:26:36.720
Sony acquired Bungie for three and a
half million dollars. People have pointed out

1252
01:26:36.840 --> 01:26:42.079
that as part of that deal,
a million or like a billion dollars was

1253
01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:47.880
set aside for employee retention. And
while that's not necessarily kind of where it's

1254
01:26:47.880 --> 01:26:50.800
like, oh, this will avoid
layoffs, what it's really there is like,

1255
01:26:50.880 --> 01:26:54.920
oh, this is to incentivize people
to stick around, so they don't

1256
01:26:54.920 --> 01:27:00.199
we even we get a brain drain. Still doesn't look great that Hey only

1257
01:27:00.239 --> 01:27:02.600
acquires them. They haven't done much. The Destiny two is in a bit

1258
01:27:02.640 --> 01:27:05.880
of a rut, and now we're
laying people off just not even two years

1259
01:27:05.960 --> 01:27:11.720
after that acquisition. But this is
also part of a wider trend of layoffs

1260
01:27:11.760 --> 01:27:15.680
over at Sony. They've had a
media molecule of the visual art studio,

1261
01:27:16.399 --> 01:27:20.039
a lot of contractors that were working
at Naughty Dog stuff. So this is

1262
01:27:20.079 --> 01:27:26.479
a trend. But Bungie seems like
one that should have been able to figure

1263
01:27:26.479 --> 01:27:28.439
it out without having to deal with
this. And that's kind of what I

1264
01:27:28.479 --> 01:27:32.520
heard a little bit internally, is
like everyone knew that Destiny two was kind

1265
01:27:32.560 --> 01:27:35.399
of in this rut, but they
expected because they were at Sony they'd be

1266
01:27:35.439 --> 01:27:40.399
mostly mostly protected, So these layoffs
came as a big, big surprise.

1267
01:27:42.319 --> 01:27:46.079
How are you guys feeling about Destiny, Bungie's future, Sony's live live service,

1268
01:27:46.159 --> 01:27:49.000
push, all that stuff. Yeah, this is a mess. Paul

1269
01:27:49.119 --> 01:27:54.079
Tassi had some additional info just a
little bit ago, and Paul has been

1270
01:27:54.159 --> 01:28:00.600
covering Destinies games as a service reporter
on that beat and a big right And

1271
01:28:00.680 --> 01:28:05.199
according to his source, the layout
decision came from Bungie management and not Sony,

1272
01:28:05.439 --> 01:28:11.479
which is kind of again shocking.
Uh, apparently there's some scuttle but

1273
01:28:11.640 --> 01:28:14.840
with the benefits right, because of
employee benefits only less till the end of

1274
01:28:14.840 --> 01:28:17.119
the month if you're let go,
so lain people off on the thirtieth means

1275
01:28:17.239 --> 01:28:23.159
a single additional day of coverage,
And many employees had unvested shares as a

1276
01:28:23.319 --> 01:28:27.399
result of the Sony purchase. Those
shares would be received based on staying with

1277
01:28:27.479 --> 01:28:30.880
the company for a certain number of
years following the sale, but those shares

1278
01:28:30.960 --> 01:28:33.960
revert to Bungee if you leave,
even if you're fired, which is what's

1279
01:28:34.319 --> 01:28:39.600
happening now to many of those effectives. This is yeah, according to a

1280
01:28:39.680 --> 01:28:45.119
source, Yes, let's just say, uh fuck why? How what that

1281
01:28:45.880 --> 01:28:51.000
fucking man and these layoffs are They're
impacting like some of their most kind of

1282
01:28:51.079 --> 01:28:57.479
forward facing public faces on social media, social media managers, community managers,

1283
01:28:57.800 --> 01:29:02.039
composers, like, what's going on
here? Bungie was supposed to have things

1284
01:29:02.079 --> 01:29:05.159
figured out? Yeah, of course, Destiny Too's in a rut. It's

1285
01:29:05.239 --> 01:29:10.560
however, many years old. Like
we have all these live service games suddenly

1286
01:29:10.720 --> 01:29:13.720
being freaked out that they aren't as
popular as they were eight years ago,

1287
01:29:14.439 --> 01:29:16.079
And like, yeah, I know
a couple games can manage to somehow not

1288
01:29:16.239 --> 01:29:19.119
fall into that truck. But you
have to account that that's going to happen.

1289
01:29:19.439 --> 01:29:23.520
There has to be a better solution
to it than just laying a bunch

1290
01:29:23.600 --> 01:29:27.000
of people off, because your next
thing isn't happening quite as fast as you

1291
01:29:27.079 --> 01:29:30.399
thought it would. All those years
Destiny Too was just making all this money?

1292
01:29:30.600 --> 01:29:35.479
Was there no war chests built up
on top of this apparent money set

1293
01:29:35.479 --> 01:29:39.520
aside after the purchase too? How
does this happen? What is this?

1294
01:29:39.680 --> 01:29:44.560
What's going on? I mean it
feels completely incongruous with the reality on the

1295
01:29:44.600 --> 01:29:47.359
ground across gaming a lot. If
we look at the total amount of money

1296
01:29:47.399 --> 01:29:50.640
that the video game industry is making
this year, it's up a couple of

1297
01:29:50.680 --> 01:29:54.960
billion dollars from last year. Now, it's down from the height of the

1298
01:29:55.000 --> 01:29:57.000
pandemic. The year before that,
when we were in the middle of the

1299
01:29:57.000 --> 01:29:59.880
pandemic, it's down from that.
I think most of these companies are like,

1300
01:30:00.680 --> 01:30:02.479
we expected that to last forever?
What the fuck? How did you

1301
01:30:02.720 --> 01:30:06.159
ever fucking expect it? What are
you talking about? We all knew that

1302
01:30:06.279 --> 01:30:13.199
wasn't gonna last forever. Why did
But companies have these short term operating ideas

1303
01:30:13.199 --> 01:30:15.199
where it's like, we are doing
this this quarter, and so we have

1304
01:30:15.279 --> 01:30:18.680
to use that money and invest it
to make stuff even bigger next quarter,

1305
01:30:18.800 --> 01:30:23.840
no matter what the reality on the
ground is. And now who has to

1306
01:30:23.880 --> 01:30:27.319
pay for that? Not Pete Parsons, although he's gonna pay socially because he

1307
01:30:27.359 --> 01:30:30.000
posted a tweet like oh Man's bad
rough day of Bungie Man. Who could

1308
01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:33.479
have saw this kind of back to
fun I'm looking for the guys this You

1309
01:30:33.560 --> 01:30:36.840
could have saw it coming because it
was you who did it. It was

1310
01:30:36.960 --> 01:30:40.560
literally you, not even Sony,
Like you can't even pass the buck to

1311
01:30:40.640 --> 01:30:43.920
them. It was you. So
uh yeah, he's gonna pay that way,

1312
01:30:43.920 --> 01:30:45.840
but he's not gonna pay any Honestly, it sounds like he's gonna make

1313
01:30:45.920 --> 01:30:50.560
more money because some of those people's
the unvested stock come back to Bungee,

1314
01:30:50.760 --> 01:30:56.600
which means I would imagine and part
comes back to him. Uh this sucks.

1315
01:30:56.720 --> 01:31:00.239
I don't like. What really is
messes me up is people work on

1316
01:31:00.359 --> 01:31:03.800
these games for a long time.
Then they come down and say, hey,

1317
01:31:03.880 --> 01:31:06.520
we are We're selling a bunch,
We're selling the Sony. We're selling

1318
01:31:06.520 --> 01:31:09.600
the Sony. You have all the
stock. All you got to do is

1319
01:31:09.680 --> 01:31:12.399
stick around for a couple of years
and you're going to get in on this

1320
01:31:12.640 --> 01:31:16.239
action. All of the work you
did to turn us into a valuable acquisition

1321
01:31:16.359 --> 01:31:20.640
target is going to pay off for
you personally. And you stick around,

1322
01:31:20.840 --> 01:31:24.960
you and you stay with the company, and you're waiting for your stock to

1323
01:31:25.000 --> 01:31:28.800
best and then you get laid off
and now that stock is no longer yours.

1324
01:31:30.119 --> 01:31:32.079
Yeah, this leaves a really bad
taste in the mouth. And it's

1325
01:31:32.520 --> 01:31:36.239
a lot of this feels inexcusable,
especially for people like you know, the

1326
01:31:36.600 --> 01:31:45.359
composer Michael Salvatory was at the studio
for over twenty five years. Listen,

1327
01:31:45.399 --> 01:31:47.560
I get the idea of like having
an on staff composer. It's not how

1328
01:31:47.600 --> 01:31:51.800
the video game industry works these days. Wait till there's stock vests, and

1329
01:31:53.119 --> 01:31:56.319
I guess I don't know the individual
reality for each person. Maybe in his

1330
01:31:56.479 --> 01:32:00.199
top stock is good because he's been
there for so long, but I don't

1331
01:32:00.199 --> 01:32:04.800
think that's necessarily going to be the
case. So we'll see. This does

1332
01:32:04.880 --> 01:32:12.680
feel like it is part of a
effort at Sony to shift away from whatever

1333
01:32:12.760 --> 01:32:16.119
current strategy they were. Okay,
they went all in on this strategy for

1334
01:32:16.239 --> 01:32:20.720
the last couple of years, Like
they haven't even waited for it to pay

1335
01:32:20.760 --> 01:32:25.600
off yet. So Sony makes really
big games that cost a lot of money,

1336
01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:29.439
and they do sell. They sell
really well, so they make some

1337
01:32:29.720 --> 01:32:31.199
money on those games. They don't
make a ton of money on a God

1338
01:32:31.239 --> 01:32:34.600
of War or a Last of Us
Part two because they're so expensive to make,

1339
01:32:35.000 --> 01:32:38.760
and then they're really expensive to market
because they put a lot of marketing

1340
01:32:38.800 --> 01:32:41.880
in there, like hundreds of millions
of dollars worth of marketing. So these

1341
01:32:41.960 --> 01:32:45.560
big, big projects are you know, we always say loss leaders. It's

1342
01:32:45.600 --> 01:32:47.840
not technically true because they aren't actually
losing money, but they are in that

1343
01:32:48.079 --> 01:32:53.560
vein. And so Sony has always
been looking for some other option here,

1344
01:32:53.680 --> 01:32:57.119
or recently they've been looking for another
strategy that took them to games as a

1345
01:32:57.199 --> 01:33:00.960
service and now they look like,
hey, maybe that's not gonna work,

1346
01:33:00.960 --> 01:33:03.520
even though they have those twelve games
in the work in production. Uh,

1347
01:33:03.560 --> 01:33:08.399
there's rumors right now and they're unverified, but someone like reset Erro will say,

1348
01:33:08.399 --> 01:33:10.840
hey, I'm pretty familiar what's going
on. People seem to believe this

1349
01:33:10.920 --> 01:33:15.479
person that Sony is now reconsidering that
like, oh, all twelve of those

1350
01:33:15.479 --> 01:33:17.920
games are actually gonna come out.
It seems like they're going to cancel or

1351
01:33:18.079 --> 01:33:25.000
at least indefinitely delay less or the
last of US factions and something similar could

1352
01:33:25.079 --> 01:33:28.159
happen to a lot of those games. And so Sony's maybe backing away from

1353
01:33:28.159 --> 01:33:30.680
the games as a service strategy.
Where does that leave them, Well,

1354
01:33:30.680 --> 01:33:33.920
they're going to go probably get more
third party exclusives, but but that this

1355
01:33:34.000 --> 01:33:36.680
has been a major effort, a
lot of money put into this, and

1356
01:33:38.720 --> 01:33:42.319
again, who's going to pay for
this miscalculation? It's going to be people

1357
01:33:42.359 --> 01:33:46.680
getting laid off and not to people
the top. Although I know Jim Ryan

1358
01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:49.960
leaving might have nothing to do with
this, it's hard for me to imagine

1359
01:33:50.199 --> 01:33:57.359
that Jim Ryan leaves and then this
this parade of the layoffs and bad news

1360
01:33:57.439 --> 01:34:00.479
happens and they're unrelated. There is
no don't know for sure that they're connected.

1361
01:34:00.560 --> 01:34:04.439
I'm some like grain of salt with
my speculation that I'm putting out there.

1362
01:34:04.600 --> 01:34:08.000
It is speculation, but for me, I have a hard time not

1363
01:34:08.079 --> 01:34:13.399
seeing as connected. Uh, it's
it's, it's it's a fucking big ass

1364
01:34:13.479 --> 01:34:16.920
bummer. I mean it's it's such
an amazing year of game releases, but

1365
01:34:17.079 --> 01:34:24.119
for the actual industry itself, it's
very incredibly fucking depressing. Yep. On

1366
01:34:24.439 --> 01:34:27.680
on another side, like, what
do you think is the future of a

1367
01:34:27.760 --> 01:34:31.359
destiny to I mean, it sure
feels today, especially with all this boy,

1368
01:34:31.760 --> 01:34:35.319
it feels like that's running out of
us. Like it it is from

1369
01:34:35.359 --> 01:34:41.880
an outsider's perspective, it has always
felt near impenetrable to get into right like

1370
01:34:42.039 --> 01:34:45.720
you need and I don't think shopsiders. There are people who's stuck with that

1371
01:34:45.840 --> 01:34:49.039
game for a very long time who
got burned by one of the recent not

1372
01:34:49.279 --> 01:34:53.560
very good expansions, who are now
like, I think I'm gonna wait for

1373
01:34:53.600 --> 01:34:57.199
a Destiny three. And if you
those people are saying that, and I

1374
01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:00.880
yell at me when I said,
I'm not gonna back into it till a

1375
01:35:00.920 --> 01:35:03.000
Destiny three. And I've been on
board with Mike saying that the entire time,

1376
01:35:03.039 --> 01:35:04.560
like, yeah, that sounds right
to me. That's when I would

1377
01:35:04.600 --> 01:35:06.600
check it out again. I mean, maybe, you know, with Giant

1378
01:35:06.640 --> 01:35:10.520
Bomb, maybe we'll go play it
sometime. Eh, well, I'm gonna

1379
01:35:10.520 --> 01:35:14.000
wait till a Destiny three. That's
where I'm at. And they seem against

1380
01:35:14.039 --> 01:35:16.840
doing that, but the reality now
might be they can't avoid shifting in that

1381
01:35:16.920 --> 01:35:20.800
direction because that might be the only
thing that gets people to feel, oh,

1382
01:35:20.880 --> 01:35:25.800
this is a fresh chance to feel
good about this game again. Yeah.

1383
01:35:26.279 --> 01:35:30.039
Uh Marathon. Also, it's a
we don't that's an extraction shooter.

1384
01:35:31.399 --> 01:35:35.840
That's a tough genre to crack.
In general, there's a few big successful

1385
01:35:35.880 --> 01:35:40.239
ones, including people I think like
the Mode and Call of Duty that does

1386
01:35:40.359 --> 01:35:44.920
that stuff. But you're going to
spend in a couple extra years developing that

1387
01:35:45.039 --> 01:35:46.720
game, and so it's going to
be even more expensive, and that's going

1388
01:35:46.760 --> 01:35:49.319
to put even more pressure on it, and it's going to come out,

1389
01:35:49.359 --> 01:35:53.840
And are people going to care about
extraction shooters in twenty twenty five. That's

1390
01:35:53.960 --> 01:35:57.920
a tough thing to know. And
I think that's what really they're worried about

1391
01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:01.399
is live service games used to be
a much safer beck because you could make

1392
01:36:01.439 --> 01:36:04.479
them a cheaper because you could experiment, you could do something small, you

1393
01:36:04.520 --> 01:36:09.039
didn't have to make a whole campaign. And now these days it's like,

1394
01:36:09.159 --> 01:36:13.399
actually, you are competing for such
a limited amount of people's time that if

1395
01:36:13.439 --> 01:36:15.359
you don't put a ton of money
into these games to make them big and

1396
01:36:15.520 --> 01:36:19.600
shiny and stick out in every way
possible, you don't stand a chance.

1397
01:36:19.720 --> 01:36:24.319
So now they're just as expensive,
if not more expensive, than a traditional

1398
01:36:24.359 --> 01:36:28.760
game. And I think my personal
problem with it is is it does seem

1399
01:36:28.880 --> 01:36:31.399
like the budgets are going up in
all these games, and they are be

1400
01:36:32.520 --> 01:36:36.760
they all do look bright and flashy, but they are all also starting to

1401
01:36:36.800 --> 01:36:42.000
look very homogeneous, and I just
can't discern them from each other anymore.

1402
01:36:42.159 --> 01:36:45.239
Like when we got the news that
X Defiant was going to be delayed,

1403
01:36:45.840 --> 01:36:50.359
I can't tell you or point out
on a police lineup what X Defiant looks

1404
01:36:50.439 --> 01:36:54.159
like, yeah, you're gonna I
tell you what you see it, and

1405
01:36:54.199 --> 01:36:56.520
you're like, no, that's just
Call of Duty, right, like your

1406
01:36:56.600 --> 01:37:00.359
Call of Duty or whatever Hyenas was
supposed to look. I don't know.

1407
01:37:00.520 --> 01:37:02.600
Sonic dolls are going to be in
that game, though, so you would

1408
01:37:02.640 --> 01:37:08.199
have done that. But the ones
I'm able to tell apart, I feel

1409
01:37:08.279 --> 01:37:13.079
terrible because it's all the anime ones, the moisturizer ones. Yeah, yeah,

1410
01:37:13.079 --> 01:37:17.600
the moisturizer games. I don't know. I think that it is easy

1411
01:37:17.680 --> 01:37:23.399
to look at what is happening at
Sony Slash PlayStation right now and be like,

1412
01:37:23.439 --> 01:37:27.159
oh, they're in trouble. They're
not in trouble. They know how

1413
01:37:27.199 --> 01:37:30.000
to make big games and get people
excited about that stuff, and then that

1414
01:37:30.079 --> 01:37:31.800
leads people to buy their console,
and that leads people. It leads people

1415
01:37:31.880 --> 01:37:36.159
to subscribe to PlayStation Network and then
spend a lot on micro transactions and live

1416
01:37:36.199 --> 01:37:41.239
free life service games like Fortnite and
Call of Duty, and Sony's making more

1417
01:37:41.239 --> 01:37:45.600
money than ever. But they do
have to grow. That is their mandate,

1418
01:37:45.079 --> 01:37:48.319
and they also have to feel extra
pressure because not a lot of other

1419
01:37:48.359 --> 01:37:51.920
parts of Sony are growing, so
they're kind of carrying that entire corporation on

1420
01:37:53.000 --> 01:37:57.159
their back, which makes it even
more precious to get every nickel and dime.

1421
01:37:57.279 --> 01:38:00.199
And we've seen them sort of nickel
and diming people here and there with

1422
01:38:00.239 --> 01:38:01.640
some of these things, raising games
to seventy dollars be the first ones to

1423
01:38:01.720 --> 01:38:05.079
do that, and then raising the
price of PlayStation network, something that they're

1424
01:38:05.079 --> 01:38:10.840
still out there defending. So they
are being forced to make choices that might

1425
01:38:10.960 --> 01:38:14.399
feel like a little bit more aggressive, that might feel like arrogance and pushing

1426
01:38:14.439 --> 01:38:17.840
people away. I think as long
as they keep still making these really big

1427
01:38:17.960 --> 01:38:21.479
games that no one else is making
and making them high quality, they're gonna

1428
01:38:21.479 --> 01:38:25.720
be just fined. It's just gonna
mean that those are gonna be even bigger

1429
01:38:25.840 --> 01:38:29.840
risks where if one goes bad,
there could be a toppling domino effect a

1430
01:38:29.880 --> 01:38:31.239
little bit, and that could be
a little bit. That's scary for Sony.

1431
01:38:31.399 --> 01:38:34.039
That's why they keep taking these other
bets. You know, there's no

1432
01:38:34.119 --> 01:38:40.680
clear answer on what to do next. How can e studio like Sony that

1433
01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:45.640
puts out big, giant triple A
games, how can they be super fluid

1434
01:38:45.800 --> 01:38:50.119
or expect to be super fluid when
you know, like you can't adapt God

1435
01:38:50.199 --> 01:38:57.600
of War Ragnarok to tap into the
current culturals like Geist or whatever else is

1436
01:38:57.640 --> 01:39:00.319
popping off with games at the time, right, you do have to make

1437
01:39:00.399 --> 01:39:05.319
that giant bet because there's stuff that
happens in Fortnite or you know when Fortnite

1438
01:39:05.399 --> 01:39:10.319
was really really on a heater where
it's like, now we straight up stole

1439
01:39:10.399 --> 01:39:15.560
this from these other games, right, is that because Sony is putting all

1440
01:39:15.640 --> 01:39:19.079
their eggs in the Triple A Blockbuster
basket versus Well, but then, like

1441
01:39:19.199 --> 01:39:23.640
you know, I say that,
and I'm realizing they made this huge initiative

1442
01:39:23.680 --> 01:39:28.239
to push for games as a service
or live service games, where that could

1443
01:39:28.279 --> 01:39:31.600
have been their opportunity to adapt to
whatever is super hot right now. Right,

1444
01:39:31.720 --> 01:39:33.479
But it's like what Jeff's say,
like that used to be like,

1445
01:39:33.560 --> 01:39:36.079
oh, like live service games,
you can make those kind of cheap and

1446
01:39:36.159 --> 01:39:39.600
then if they're a hit, then
you invest in them. Now it's not

1447
01:39:39.640 --> 01:39:42.720
even like that anymore. Even just
getting any of those off the ground is

1448
01:39:42.840 --> 01:39:46.279
this giant investment that takes years and
years and years of development, And what

1449
01:39:46.359 --> 01:39:50.039
I hear is like it's not even
just expensive. No one knows how to

1450
01:39:50.119 --> 01:39:54.520
do it, and we've mean,
how many times have we seen that?

1451
01:39:54.720 --> 01:39:57.680
Like, oh, Destiny learned those
lessons. Now, every game after this

1452
01:39:58.000 --> 01:40:00.640
is going to learn from what Destiny
did and they're gonna come out with much

1453
01:40:00.640 --> 01:40:03.880
stronger launches. And that never happens. Every game is still kind of a

1454
01:40:03.920 --> 01:40:08.359
mess at launch and has to go
through those growing pants on their own because,

1455
01:40:08.359 --> 01:40:10.800
as it turns out, and I
hear this from places like Bungie,

1456
01:40:11.520 --> 01:40:15.560
no one knows how to do it. It's so difficult and and and so

1457
01:40:15.680 --> 01:40:18.880
when when a Bungie shows up at
like Naughty Dog and Naughty Dogs we're working

1458
01:40:18.920 --> 01:40:21.359
on the last of those factions.
Here's what it looks like, a bunch

1459
01:40:21.359 --> 01:40:26.359
of goes, Oh shit, guys, this isn't gonna work. This is

1460
01:40:26.600 --> 01:40:29.359
gonna be a real big problem.
Like the game is fun, so the

1461
01:40:29.439 --> 01:40:31.880
fuck what this needs? You need
this, and you need to have seasons

1462
01:40:31.880 --> 01:40:35.359
of content plan and you need to
have flexibility in your micro transactions so that

1463
01:40:35.439 --> 01:40:39.319
you could put fucking ari on a
Grande in there. And it's like and

1464
01:40:39.520 --> 01:40:42.960
they the game's not prepared to do
that. And so Bunch comes in and

1465
01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:45.560
says, this is not great right
now, and it's not gonna work as

1466
01:40:45.560 --> 01:40:47.920
a business. And then we're like, well, what does work. You're

1467
01:40:47.960 --> 01:40:51.079
gonna have to completely revamp everything and
that's gonna take even longer. And actually

1468
01:40:51.119 --> 01:40:55.760
we don't really know either because we're
kind of winging it. So it's games

1469
01:40:55.800 --> 01:40:58.600
of a service as a service.
Turns out was never actually going to be

1470
01:40:58.720 --> 01:41:01.319
this answer. It was because it
such a roll the dice, and I

1471
01:41:01.399 --> 01:41:03.800
get you know, Sony could roll
the dice twelve times and that gives you

1472
01:41:03.840 --> 01:41:06.720
a better chance. But we're even
seeing it. I don't know. If

1473
01:41:06.800 --> 01:41:11.039
Naughty Dog can't do it, who
can. It's kind of how it's got

1474
01:41:11.119 --> 01:41:14.880
to be feeling coming out of this, and yeah, well look here's my

1475
01:41:15.159 --> 01:41:19.520
naivete and again me not knowing shit
about game development. But say, you

1476
01:41:19.600 --> 01:41:24.640
know, you got all this money, you got all these studios. Isn't

1477
01:41:24.920 --> 01:41:29.960
a bit better bet to have the
twelve very different things than twelve same things

1478
01:41:30.720 --> 01:41:33.800
and hoping that one of those will
take off. I I think it's what

1479
01:41:33.880 --> 01:41:39.039
the thinking was like a year and
a half ago, for sure. But

1480
01:41:39.159 --> 01:41:42.800
I think, listen, they're not
gonna stop making the very big things,

1481
01:41:43.039 --> 01:41:45.399
so they were gonna do both.
They're gonna have a lot of the big

1482
01:41:45.640 --> 01:41:48.600
things that do this the Sony PlayStation
house style, and then they were gonna

1483
01:41:48.600 --> 01:41:53.680
have the twelve very different things,
or ideally they would have been very different.

1484
01:41:54.600 --> 01:41:58.119
But I think for Sony they know
it's actually better. Like if they

1485
01:41:58.159 --> 01:42:00.319
had to pick or choose one or
the other. They're gonna keep doing the

1486
01:42:00.319 --> 01:42:02.359
big Sony games that cost a lot
of money because they know how to make

1487
01:42:02.399 --> 01:42:05.439
those, and they know their audience
is thirsty, thirsty, thirsty for those

1488
01:42:05.520 --> 01:42:11.319
games, so they're gonna keep doing
that for sure. It's just those.

1489
01:42:11.560 --> 01:42:14.560
Every single time they go out and
they start another one of those big projects,

1490
01:42:14.640 --> 01:42:16.760
it becomes riskier than the last time. And it's not just because it's

1491
01:42:16.800 --> 01:42:20.079
going to be more expensive. It's
because you're gonna get diminishing returns and the

1492
01:42:20.159 --> 01:42:25.560
sort of creativity that you can squeeze
from these studios we get. I mean,

1493
01:42:25.600 --> 01:42:28.039
they look how good of a job
they did rebooting God of War.

1494
01:42:28.239 --> 01:42:30.600
Of course, yeah, they could
do that again. It's like, well,

1495
01:42:30.640 --> 01:42:31.720
when we're gonna do a sequel,
it's exactly like the last one,

1496
01:42:31.760 --> 01:42:34.399
and people want that and that's good, But then we're gonna do another sequel,

1497
01:42:34.439 --> 01:42:36.159
it's like, exactly like the last
one. Well, no, now

1498
01:42:36.199 --> 01:42:40.239
we've got to start changing things up
and hopefully people like the ways we're going

1499
01:42:40.319 --> 01:42:45.239
to change it again. So it's
it's complicated and risky and they're and they

1500
01:42:45.319 --> 01:42:47.399
should be afraid of that because that
is where they, you know, they

1501
01:42:48.279 --> 01:42:51.680
get all their money from, or
at least get all the excitement from,

1502
01:42:51.840 --> 01:42:56.960
and they want to maintain that.
But they listen, they're still really skilled.

1503
01:42:57.039 --> 01:42:59.600
They're probably going to figure some stuff
out. It just might be it

1504
01:42:59.680 --> 01:43:01.119
might mean like a couple of walls
like we got this year where there's not

1505
01:43:01.159 --> 01:43:04.039
a ton of first party Sony games
and they get Spider Man two and that

1506
01:43:04.119 --> 01:43:10.840
sort of over covers up everything else. But we'll see Sony's not alone in

1507
01:43:10.920 --> 01:43:15.880
this. A lot of publishers are
looking around like what is the path to

1508
01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:18.159
growth? And they were all thinking
it was live service a little bit ago,

1509
01:43:18.199 --> 01:43:21.279
and now no one's really thinking that
anymore. But the scary thing is

1510
01:43:21.319 --> 01:43:25.880
there is no obvious new thing for
them to golom onto. Are we going

1511
01:43:25.960 --> 01:43:31.439
full circle in that license games?
Maybe the the quick fix? Yeah,

1512
01:43:31.439 --> 01:43:35.680
because like you know, I don't
I can't think of a lot of positives

1513
01:43:35.720 --> 01:43:40.800
coming out of ub Soft except this
Avatar game. Avatar game, that's Star

1514
01:43:40.840 --> 01:43:45.600
Wars game they're working on. People
so excited about that. It's this is

1515
01:43:45.680 --> 01:43:50.159
what has happened. Is Another thing
I hear from publishers is is they know

1516
01:43:50.319 --> 01:43:55.880
they need to be making really really
big games and starting a new IP is

1517
01:43:56.439 --> 01:44:00.479
very even more risky and just as
expensive as going out and renting an I

1518
01:44:00.560 --> 01:44:03.920
P. So yes, I like
that, Yes, and that's what that's

1519
01:44:03.960 --> 01:44:09.840
what they're doing. So uh yeah, I think that we can probably expect

1520
01:44:09.880 --> 01:44:12.399
that trend to continue, especially if
it keeps paying off, which it has

1521
01:44:12.479 --> 01:44:15.079
with Star Wars and Harry Potter.
Now there's not a ton that will pay

1522
01:44:15.079 --> 01:44:19.039
off. Maybe Avatar will. I'm
skeptical. I'm probably gonna have a good

1523
01:44:19.079 --> 01:44:24.640
time with that, but I don't
know. We'll see that translated like real

1524
01:44:24.760 --> 01:44:28.079
quick. Like I'm sure we could
all name off a couple of properties right

1525
01:44:28.239 --> 01:44:31.279
that that could blow up? Call
them, well, blow up both of

1526
01:44:31.359 --> 01:44:40.600
those. Pop Eye, No,
there there was a pop remember that?

1527
01:44:43.079 --> 01:44:46.479
Too much of it for the children, and I hate the children. I

1528
01:44:46.520 --> 01:44:49.760
don't hate. I still have it
installed on my switch. I should play.

1529
01:44:51.720 --> 01:44:55.439
We've gotten to every horror franchise now, right, like those have all

1530
01:44:55.479 --> 01:45:00.399
been used stuff asymmetrical multiplayer games.
Absolutely, I don't. No, you

1531
01:45:00.439 --> 01:45:02.800
could probably do an it. Oh
you know what I watched. I know

1532
01:45:02.880 --> 01:45:05.239
that the Scotta game on like the
places too if people really liked it.

1533
01:45:05.279 --> 01:45:09.039
But I saw that this would be
called the thing for the first time this

1534
01:45:09.119 --> 01:45:12.479
weekend. That's really good. They
should make a video game about that today.

1535
01:45:12.960 --> 01:45:15.720
They should do all of John Carpenter's
movies. They Live, would be

1536
01:45:15.800 --> 01:45:19.239
a would be the game? I
think, yeah, I really do think

1537
01:45:19.279 --> 01:45:21.680
that would be great. I was
gonna say Skiff for New York, but

1538
01:45:21.760 --> 01:45:26.880
that's just metal your solids. We'll
do it anyway, do it anyway,

1539
01:45:27.279 --> 01:45:30.640
get Ka dreaming to do it?
He probably would. All right, let's

1540
01:45:30.720 --> 01:45:34.600
let's move along with these stories here. Atari acquires Drew Scanlon's Digital Eclipse.

1541
01:45:35.640 --> 01:45:41.359
Atari has agreed to acquire Digital Eclipse, a studio that specializes in remastering and

1542
01:45:41.479 --> 01:45:45.560
restoring classic games. The deal is
expected to be completed in the coming days,

1543
01:45:45.600 --> 01:45:48.520
and it is worth up to twenty
million dollars. Atari said the acquisition

1544
01:45:48.520 --> 01:45:54.439
will help it further support its retro
focused growth strategy. This is a strategy

1545
01:45:54.479 --> 01:45:59.560
that also led them to acquire Nightdive
Night Di Dive, YEP, so now

1546
01:45:59.680 --> 01:46:02.760
night and Digital Clips under the Atari
brand, I'm I'm thinking, I think

1547
01:46:02.760 --> 01:46:06.039
I'm pretty down with what Atari's got
cooking over there. If the idea is

1548
01:46:06.520 --> 01:46:09.960
let's find a bunch of old shit
that we can make feel new again,

1549
01:46:10.119 --> 01:46:13.600
and let's go to the two studios
that are the best at that in their

1550
01:46:13.640 --> 01:46:17.279
own respective ways. Digital Clips does
these sort of now interact to museums great

1551
01:46:17.319 --> 01:46:23.000
at collecting the surrounding materials and bringing
it all into the experience and now that

1552
01:46:23.039 --> 01:46:25.880
you can like read the materials that
go right into playing it, and they

1553
01:46:25.960 --> 01:46:28.359
set it up. So I mean, God, I really want to keep

1554
01:46:28.359 --> 01:46:30.720
a space in my top ten for
the making of Karatica, which is an

1555
01:46:30.720 --> 01:46:34.239
amazing game actually. And then then
on the other side, Night Dive,

1556
01:46:34.239 --> 01:46:39.479
who's like the best at remastering these
old PC games. If Atari's strategy is

1557
01:46:39.560 --> 01:46:42.800
this, I think I'm mostly on
board. These days, we'll see and

1558
01:46:42.800 --> 01:46:45.199
they say that they're going to keep
being able, They're going to keep being

1559
01:46:45.239 --> 01:46:49.000
able to operate mostly independently at Digital
Clips and doing the game projects that they

1560
01:46:49.079 --> 01:46:51.479
want to do. It's just now
they're going to have I guess maybe some

1561
01:46:51.600 --> 01:46:55.640
extra resources from Atari. We'll see
how that plays out right. It's not

1562
01:46:55.840 --> 01:46:58.199
like, oh, they're only going
to be able to work on Atari games

1563
01:46:58.279 --> 01:47:00.520
or anything like that. That's not
how it's come to ridiculous now, it's

1564
01:47:00.520 --> 01:47:04.800
about Atari branding themselves as a retro
gaming company, which I think just makes

1565
01:47:04.840 --> 01:47:08.479
a lot of sense for them sense. Yeah, if you want to do

1566
01:47:08.600 --> 01:47:12.000
that, then man, Digital Eclipse
and night Die before that that those are

1567
01:47:12.079 --> 01:47:14.760
the two companies that you want.
It's funny you mentioned that, Mike,

1568
01:47:14.760 --> 01:47:17.279
because I've always had that association with
Atari, Like you guys make the old

1569
01:47:17.359 --> 01:47:20.600
shit, right, Yeah, people
do, so Basewell lean into it,

1570
01:47:21.119 --> 01:47:24.479
agreed. I don't like. I
just I'm such a fan of this,

1571
01:47:24.720 --> 01:47:28.800
like thinking up the strategy and then
executing on it in a way that I

1572
01:47:28.840 --> 01:47:31.319
guess acquiring Studios isn't executing on the
idea. It's still setting up the idea.

1573
01:47:31.600 --> 01:47:35.479
Let's see how they enable the night
Dive and Digital Clips to do even

1574
01:47:35.560 --> 01:47:40.119
more. But as our Wolves and
Chats says, Digital Clips is already talking

1575
01:47:40.159 --> 01:47:43.600
in its newsletter about how it's working
on the next gold Master series game,

1576
01:47:43.880 --> 01:47:45.600
and that's what the making of Krodka
is. It's the first time the gold

1577
01:47:45.680 --> 01:47:49.239
Master Series of these Digital museums,
So if they can have those coming out

1578
01:47:49.279 --> 01:47:58.000
like once a quarter Boy and I'm
honestly Atari would be a very They did

1579
01:47:58.000 --> 01:48:00.800
Atari fifty obviously, so they've done
a lot of that history, but diving

1580
01:48:00.840 --> 01:48:04.479
in even deeper on some of those
specific games, and then hopefully getting to

1581
01:48:04.520 --> 01:48:10.439
a point where they've established this gold
Master series as such a strong way to

1582
01:48:10.800 --> 01:48:15.600
honor a game that maybe then Digital
Clips gets to work with Sega or you

1583
01:48:15.680 --> 01:48:19.520
know, Heaven Forbidden Nintendo. That
would just be amazing. If they could

1584
01:48:19.560 --> 01:48:23.560
do this for the original Legend of
Zelda or something like that, I would

1585
01:48:23.680 --> 01:48:28.039
just I would lose my mind.
So you know that's hopes and dreams,

1586
01:48:28.079 --> 01:48:31.640
but we'll see. Uh yeah,
go ahead. Just that digital Clips made

1587
01:48:31.680 --> 01:48:35.760
that incredible Disney Afternoon collection and it's
still not on Switch, and I would

1588
01:48:35.840 --> 01:48:40.039
very much like that. Please.
Yeah, it's weird. Switch Drake,

1589
01:48:40.680 --> 01:48:45.319
Drake Drake. I saw that Drake
dressed up as the Genie for a Halloween

1590
01:48:45.399 --> 01:48:47.720
this year. So my first swish
is, of course, the uh let

1591
01:48:47.760 --> 01:48:53.239
me get only get three of these
Mike Black Shock remake. The second wish

1592
01:48:53.600 --> 01:48:58.600
just for the Disney after You collection
on Switch, and my third wish gd

1593
01:49:00.199 --> 01:49:03.760
freedom. It's not how it works. I'm afraid that's not how it works.

1594
01:49:05.720 --> 01:49:11.439
So worked the first movie, I
wasted a wish. He the Genie.

1595
01:49:11.680 --> 01:49:14.600
He dressed as a genie, not
for Halloween, but because his daughter

1596
01:49:14.840 --> 01:49:17.239
somehow became convinced that the Genie was
going to come over and watch Aladdin with

1597
01:49:17.319 --> 01:49:20.000
her. So he's like, I
guess I gotta do this. Now,

1598
01:49:20.920 --> 01:49:24.720
that's how it works, hey,
I dresses the Genie like when that movie

1599
01:49:24.800 --> 01:49:27.680
was new for Halloween that year.
I remember it was that year we had

1600
01:49:27.760 --> 01:49:30.199
a big snowstorm, so I had
to wear a coat over it. I

1601
01:49:30.319 --> 01:49:42.560
was mad. So listen, listen, what a captivating tale you Jesus you're

1602
01:49:42.640 --> 01:49:47.079
leaving us for the going vacation right
listen, buddy back what I said that

1603
01:49:47.239 --> 01:49:51.399
was? Everyone heard it, Everyone
heard it. I need I need to

1604
01:49:51.439 --> 01:49:56.760
see a photo of that. If
we're gonna have that discussion, just want

1605
01:49:56.800 --> 01:49:59.680
to put that out there. Please
gonna have that photo? And uh yeah,

1606
01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:04.760
thank you? Were you blue?
Were you blue? So listen up.

1607
01:50:05.079 --> 01:50:09.119
Here's a story, a story about
a guy who lives in the blue

1608
01:50:09.159 --> 01:50:12.600
world, and all day and all
night and everything I see is just blue,

1609
01:50:12.720 --> 01:50:18.479
like litter window in a blue corvette
and everything is blue for him and

1610
01:50:18.600 --> 01:50:23.920
himself and everybody around because he ain't
got nobody to listen. To listen to

1611
01:50:24.039 --> 01:50:33.560
listen, I'm blue that song?
You are that song? Yes, Jeff.

1612
01:50:33.760 --> 01:50:38.920
Now you may continue. Dual screen
gaming device that could be split in

1613
01:50:39.000 --> 01:50:45.199
half. UH patent for dual screen
device and basically they're saying you could in

1614
01:50:45.279 --> 01:50:47.079
this pattern, you'd be able to
take it apart and both sides would still

1615
01:50:47.079 --> 01:50:50.680
be able to operate independently. UH. The device resembles a three D s

1616
01:50:51.279 --> 01:50:57.319
UH and would use some sort of
wireless gaming display technology between these two sides.

1617
01:50:57.600 --> 01:51:00.119
It also features a touch screen on
the outside for interaction even when closed,

1618
01:51:00.199 --> 01:51:02.840
so screens on the inside. You
fold it up like a book,

1619
01:51:02.840 --> 01:51:06.119
and then they're still a screen on
the outside, so it could continue to

1620
01:51:06.199 --> 01:51:13.960
operate. The patent obviously does not
guarantee that will get an actual product released

1621
01:51:14.079 --> 01:51:18.079
like this Nintendo patent stuff all the
time. No, they of course that

1622
01:51:18.319 --> 01:51:23.399
said, I don't think I want
this thing, even though I described even

1623
01:51:23.439 --> 01:51:29.880
though I described needing something exactly like
this earlier when complaining about couch co op

1624
01:51:29.960 --> 01:51:31.640
with one which two was like this, you'd be you don't want it back

1625
01:51:31.680 --> 01:51:35.239
along. No, I just I
don't trust wireless display. I just think

1626
01:51:35.399 --> 01:51:39.760
like we're in a bad place with
that. I have to see it work

1627
01:51:39.840 --> 01:51:42.880
in any real meaning. I mean, the way you was was mostly fine

1628
01:51:42.920 --> 01:51:48.640
unless you try to go like unless
you unless you walked walked in between you

1629
01:51:48.880 --> 01:51:54.720
and the line of sight frequent,
that's that happening a lot. I got

1630
01:51:54.800 --> 01:51:57.720
that thing, right, I remember, I got that thing, and I'm

1631
01:51:57.760 --> 01:52:01.399
like, yo, I'm playing Call
of Duty in bed and no I couldn't

1632
01:52:01.479 --> 01:52:09.039
because it happened to go through one
wall, one hollow ass sheet rocked wall.

1633
01:52:09.359 --> 01:52:13.319
It wasn't concrete, it wasn't brick, it was motherfucking sheet rock.

1634
01:52:15.079 --> 01:52:19.239
The thing sound has no problem penetrating. Yeah, anyway, I yeah,

1635
01:52:19.359 --> 01:52:21.720
So it's just that shit doesn't work. Well, I realized that was a

1636
01:52:21.760 --> 01:52:27.560
long time ago. Maybe wireless video
technology has improved in some way, hopefully

1637
01:52:27.600 --> 01:52:30.000
through Wi Fi. I don't know. I just like the DS and three

1638
01:52:30.079 --> 01:52:34.000
DS A lots to the idea of
maybe getting some like ports or new ways

1639
01:52:34.039 --> 01:52:38.199
to play those games. Are you
know, god forbid like sequels. If

1640
01:52:38.239 --> 01:52:41.600
this is what I need to get
a leap beat agents too, then so

1641
01:52:41.840 --> 01:52:45.960
mean, let's see of all the
surprise like gimmicks they could do to the

1642
01:52:46.119 --> 01:52:50.920
next switch that like maybe I would
assumed I wouldn't want this one. I

1643
01:52:50.960 --> 01:52:56.520
would be mostly okay with because again, stuff is cool. I've been pounding

1644
01:52:56.560 --> 01:53:00.840
this drum for how fucking long now, like every game mornings for like a

1645
01:53:00.920 --> 01:53:03.239
year and a half. Now cut
the check, Nintendo, come on,

1646
01:53:03.960 --> 01:53:09.000
I'm with you guys on I would
like a dual screen. I think I

1647
01:53:09.039 --> 01:53:13.920
agree with Jeff, like let's avoid
wireless display stuff, Like the next switch

1648
01:53:14.000 --> 01:53:16.359
should still have a DOC of some
sort. It shouldn't be like here's a

1649
01:53:16.439 --> 01:53:19.319
dongle and then now you just flip
this thing on the on the switch and

1650
01:53:19.359 --> 01:53:23.000
now you're beaming the stuff to the
TV. I don't really trust that.

1651
01:53:23.279 --> 01:53:27.319
So, yeah, you don't want
the thing to go wrong with your system

1652
01:53:27.439 --> 01:53:31.520
to be the thing the system is
right, like joy con drifting, Like

1653
01:53:31.640 --> 01:53:40.119
yeah, absolutely widespread malfunction. But
you could just replace those like that's let's

1654
01:53:40.199 --> 01:53:44.640
not have the thing that the console
is like centered around not work. Well,

1655
01:53:44.840 --> 01:53:49.520
that would be horrible, you problem, Yeah, exactly. I think

1656
01:53:49.560 --> 01:53:53.399
it's probably unlikely that the switch to
has anything to do with this. Paton

1657
01:53:53.439 --> 01:53:58.359
probably just clear it's is probably going
to be a switch to yes, yes

1658
01:53:58.479 --> 01:54:03.319
exactly. Microsoft is support for unofficial
third party peripherals. Microsoft has started blocking

1659
01:54:03.359 --> 01:54:09.039
the use of unofficial accessories with Xbox
consoles. This is reportedly related to Microsoft

1660
01:54:09.119 --> 01:54:15.600
expanding its program for approved third party
wireless Xbox controllers. Third party Xbox devices

1661
01:54:15.640 --> 01:54:18.439
that are part of the Design for
Xbox Partner program should not be affected,

1662
01:54:18.520 --> 01:54:24.720
which is probably what most people have
others, but other things might actually be

1663
01:54:24.760 --> 01:54:29.760
affected, and those could include like
certain third party fighting game controllers. It

1664
01:54:29.840 --> 01:54:33.520
will definitely include things like some a
couple of devices that I have this company

1665
01:54:33.560 --> 01:54:36.560
set me where you plug this into
your Xbox and then you plug a mouse

1666
01:54:36.600 --> 01:54:40.840
and keyboard in there, and then
it tells the thing you're using a controller

1667
01:54:40.880 --> 01:54:44.800
when you're actually using a mouse and
keyboard, so you can cheat in video

1668
01:54:44.960 --> 01:54:47.680
games. Oh wow, coo cool. Yes, right, that's like a

1669
01:54:47.840 --> 01:54:50.039
fun Yeah, I want to I
want to cheat in video games that way

1670
01:54:50.079 --> 01:54:55.319
every once in a while. Well, they don't like the idea of these

1671
01:54:55.840 --> 01:54:58.720
faults in the system. I think
that that's kind of what they're how they're

1672
01:54:58.720 --> 01:55:01.239
talking. They're saying safety and su
security, but I think they also this

1673
01:55:01.399 --> 01:55:04.319
is a weakness in the chain there
where like people could cheat that way.

1674
01:55:06.000 --> 01:55:12.479
Really though, it's probably about this
approved for Xbox thing, where they maybe

1675
01:55:12.640 --> 01:55:15.880
Xbox gets a little bit more money
if they have if everyone has to go

1676
01:55:15.960 --> 01:55:17.039
through them to get approved. At
least that's how I read it. I

1677
01:55:17.079 --> 01:55:20.000
don't know. There's people in the
fighting game community that are upset about this.

1678
01:55:20.039 --> 01:55:25.720
There's people who are worried maybe about
accessibility, although that Xbox accessibly controller

1679
01:55:25.800 --> 01:55:29.920
will obviously still work, so there's
some weirdness here. I think it's a

1680
01:55:29.960 --> 01:55:32.680
shame to have stuff work one way
to the point where people make purchasing decisions

1681
01:55:32.760 --> 01:55:36.399
based on and then to change it
mid stream. But at the same time,

1682
01:55:36.520 --> 01:55:41.039
these are closed systems. This is
how they work play games on PC.

1683
01:55:41.199 --> 01:55:44.479
I guess. I don't know.
It's not really a great overall.

1684
01:55:44.520 --> 01:55:45.960
I wish they could find another solution
here that would be ideal, But I

1685
01:55:46.000 --> 01:55:48.840
don't know. You guys, I
just don't think this affects us too much.

1686
01:55:48.880 --> 01:55:55.199
We probably are mostly using official stuff, right, yeah, mostly using

1687
01:55:55.319 --> 01:56:03.199
my freaking Starfield control an amazing controller
for a game. Yeah yeah. The

1688
01:56:03.479 --> 01:56:08.119
The upside to this, though,
is that more of these third party controllers

1689
01:56:08.159 --> 01:56:11.880
will now be wireless where before like
a lot of stuff you get, like

1690
01:56:12.079 --> 01:56:15.319
I got a couple of eight bit
does that are for Xbox and they're wired

1691
01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:19.239
because the Microsoft uses proprietary wireless technology. Well, it seems like the whole

1692
01:56:19.239 --> 01:56:24.039
point of this is to expand that
stuff into more of these controllers, so

1693
01:56:24.159 --> 01:56:28.800
that'll be something and that will go
work for headsets as well. But still

1694
01:56:29.079 --> 01:56:31.479
it seems like you could probably do
that without having to cut off all of

1695
01:56:31.479 --> 01:56:34.600
these other devices. Yeah, it
seems like it seems unnecessary to be I

1696
01:56:34.680 --> 01:56:40.640
agree. Capcom will have a major
title by March twenty twenty four that is

1697
01:56:40.720 --> 01:56:44.920
currently unannounced. It will apparently it's
apparently gonna sell millions of copies according to

1698
01:56:44.920 --> 01:56:50.479
the Capcom I think it has to
be beautiful, Joe. That's what I

1699
01:56:50.720 --> 01:56:56.520
wrote down here. It's Monster Hunter
as hell. It has to be Monster

1700
01:56:56.600 --> 01:57:00.680
High either that or maybe Bresident Evil
nine is sooner than we think, but

1701
01:57:00.079 --> 01:57:03.800
probably Monster Hunt. I don't do
that to me, you can, dude,

1702
01:57:04.079 --> 01:57:09.560
Why would you even put that in
my head? Mike are nine in

1703
01:57:09.800 --> 01:57:12.520
March? Like, what are you
doing? Yeah, that's way too early.

1704
01:57:12.640 --> 01:57:15.359
That's absolutely it's it's gonna be Monster
Hunter. It could be two things.

1705
01:57:15.479 --> 01:57:18.439
Two things, right, it's probably
Monster Hunter. Also, I've heard

1706
01:57:18.479 --> 01:57:23.560
good things about the Niantic Monster Hunter
game. Yes, I can't. I

1707
01:57:23.640 --> 01:57:27.399
can't dive back into that world.
No, don't do it. Two viewed.

1708
01:57:27.840 --> 01:57:34.199
Yeah, Resident Evil six remake.
First, what do you do?

1709
01:57:34.760 --> 01:57:42.920
There's no way they skip five and
they're gonna past five because they're not gonna

1710
01:57:42.960 --> 01:57:45.119
want to deal with deal with it. I'm like, because is it the

1711
01:57:45.159 --> 01:57:48.640
five of the one where you punch
the boulder? Yeah, but a lot

1712
01:57:48.720 --> 01:57:56.840
of punch a lot of poor African
villagers. Yes, they are like six.

1713
01:57:58.119 --> 01:58:00.880
No, just stop, just stop, just stop. We've we fit,

1714
01:58:01.039 --> 01:58:06.039
We've reached the end of the ride
with are four Veronica coach? Yeah,

1715
01:58:06.439 --> 01:58:10.840
Coonic. Yeah, they're gonna do
I think they're gonna do It's able

1716
01:58:10.880 --> 01:58:14.000
one remake next, that's the next
thing, you know. I think you're

1717
01:58:14.119 --> 01:58:16.319
right. No, they are going
to do five. They're going to do

1718
01:58:16.439 --> 01:58:19.680
five. There's easiest logical thing for
them to do. Then they already do

1719
01:58:19.800 --> 01:58:23.680
one. I know. Yeah,
he one twenty years ago for game,

1720
01:58:23.840 --> 01:58:27.039
but that was two thousand and two, but they didn't do like the new

1721
01:58:28.600 --> 01:58:31.399
that was just two and three.
Okay right right? Four now, yeah,

1722
01:58:31.439 --> 01:58:34.039
so go do one great. Do
one love it? I think they

1723
01:58:34.079 --> 01:58:40.439
will. Yeah, I mean one
zero because zero has problems. Make zero

1724
01:58:40.680 --> 01:58:43.600
amazing. Now make zero a good
game because zero has got a good concept.

1725
01:58:43.640 --> 01:58:47.520
You're on a train, Chambers,
it's cool. Yeah, clearly the

1726
01:58:47.680 --> 01:58:53.479
message is anything but five and six? Okay, anything but five? And

1727
01:58:53.800 --> 01:58:56.600
look I kind of like five.
It's a snow I paid five. I

1728
01:58:56.680 --> 01:59:00.560
played five two years ago with Abby, and if it wasn't four, how

1729
01:59:00.720 --> 01:59:03.199
charming we both were, that would
have been a complete disaster. That's why.

1730
01:59:03.520 --> 01:59:08.720
That's why they'll make it better now. Yeah, I want to play

1731
01:59:08.760 --> 01:59:12.399
sex. By the way, who
wants to play with me? This is

1732
01:59:12.520 --> 01:59:15.840
me not raising my hand if I'll
do it. If I don't play,

1733
01:59:17.720 --> 01:59:25.399
what is Yeah, he's just tricking
you a little bit with four? Is

1734
01:59:25.439 --> 01:59:30.000
that the thing you don't you don't
like? My thing is? I love

1735
01:59:30.600 --> 01:59:32.880
four? And I just say I
already played that game though. Okay,

1736
01:59:33.520 --> 01:59:38.760
game Mike. I'll even take your
side on that argument because wrong, like

1737
01:59:38.960 --> 01:59:44.840
yeah, yeah, which is which
is just as valid. Yeah, what

1738
01:59:44.960 --> 01:59:49.479
if it's a dark Void remake?
Well, remake Dark Sector. That's the

1739
01:59:49.680 --> 01:59:55.640
right dark game to make Dark Sector. That is there anything else it could

1740
01:59:55.720 --> 02:00:00.479
be we're not getting a new Devil
May Cry yet. No Beautiful Joe three

1741
02:00:00.640 --> 02:00:05.520
confirmed. Yeah, I would not
sell millions of copies, but because Monster

1742
02:00:05.600 --> 02:00:09.600
Hunter is like do or like that's
it's a one do and it would sell

1743
02:00:09.640 --> 02:00:14.199
millions of copies. And they're they're
always making Monster Hunter like they like SU's

1744
02:00:14.279 --> 02:00:16.279
Hunter was the world was done,
they started making another one even though Rise

1745
02:00:16.399 --> 02:00:20.560
was also coming. Yeah, so
so like they, yes, we're due

1746
02:00:20.640 --> 02:00:24.880
and it's gonna happen soon. So
I imagine that's what I just don't want.

1747
02:00:25.159 --> 02:00:29.640
No lost planet now, don't bring
that ship back, that Rising planet,

1748
02:00:29.720 --> 02:00:33.520
and I'm going to do that Powerstone
them Powerstone ship. It was that

1749
02:00:33.720 --> 02:00:38.159
God. I wish just just give
me that Powerstone collection you made for PSP

1750
02:00:38.399 --> 02:00:41.880
on like a switch, that's all. It's a release of Dark Stalkers.

1751
02:00:41.960 --> 02:00:44.920
That's what's gonna happen. But that'd
be cool. But they already did that's

1752
02:00:45.039 --> 02:00:47.880
they already did give us the Dark
Stalkers a collection and it ruled. Uh.

1753
02:00:48.399 --> 02:00:53.479
David Hater is involved with Metal Gear
again. Konami has enlisted fan favorite

1754
02:00:53.479 --> 02:00:58.199
Middle Gear voice actor David Hater to
promote to promote its recent series revival.

1755
02:00:58.319 --> 02:01:01.600
This includes the release of Metal Gear
so Master Collection Volume one, which includes

1756
02:01:01.600 --> 02:01:05.119
a number of the earlier series entries
and a Metal Gear Solid three Snake in

1757
02:01:05.199 --> 02:01:10.880
a remake for PS five Xbox series. PC Haters also teased that this is

1758
02:01:11.119 --> 02:01:15.199
only the beginning and that and that
references to other Metal Gear series games have

1759
02:01:15.279 --> 02:01:18.199
been found in the files of volume
one, suggesting a second volume could could

1760
02:01:18.239 --> 02:01:21.560
be released in the future. Uh, what if they got him to do

1761
02:01:21.640 --> 02:01:27.560
the voice for, you know,
Snake in Metal Gear Solid five. That'd

1762
02:01:27.600 --> 02:01:30.239
be pretty good. That'd be great. I like, hater, I mean,

1763
02:01:30.399 --> 02:01:31.720
I like, you know, we
all like Kojima. That was kind

1764
02:01:31.760 --> 02:01:35.680
of fucked up when he you know, his star fucking height, his star

1765
02:01:35.840 --> 02:01:41.319
fucking yeah, taking over his brain
like worms. Yea, it was such

1766
02:01:41.359 --> 02:01:45.960
a bad call, like such a
story ball Snake, Yeah, for the

1767
02:01:45.000 --> 02:01:48.520
guy that I liked in fucking twenty
four. We know you were watching twenty

1768
02:01:48.560 --> 02:01:53.520
four Kojima. Obviously that's high high
art. I get it. I love

1769
02:01:53.600 --> 02:01:58.720
it too. We're all in agreement. We're agreement here. But then going

1770
02:01:58.760 --> 02:02:00.479
and like pulling this one that it
was a dick move. Yeah, it

1771
02:02:00.560 --> 02:02:04.920
was a dick move. But in
terms of like the choice of actor in

1772
02:02:05.520 --> 02:02:09.560
a vacuum. I mean, are
we really about to say that, like

1773
02:02:09.680 --> 02:02:15.960
Norman Redis is like uh a cool
thing? Like well, like Norman Readis

1774
02:02:15.039 --> 02:02:19.479
wasn't replacing anybody. But but listen, but that's what I'm saying, vacuum

1775
02:02:19.560 --> 02:02:23.520
dead and now I want to put
him in a video game. Also totally

1776
02:02:23.760 --> 02:02:30.560
loser behavior is that who sees that
as like audition successfuls? Like this is

1777
02:02:30.560 --> 02:02:32.760
a thing with all developers for sure. They see something they want to put

1778
02:02:32.760 --> 02:02:36.159
it by, Like Japanese developers love
doing this, They love watching American TV

1779
02:02:36.239 --> 02:02:44.800
and putting kind of I don't think
making Foxes in any prestige TV. I

1780
02:02:44.840 --> 02:02:47.119
don't know where that came from.
Yes, Edward's just like, uh,

1781
02:02:47.960 --> 02:02:49.840
I don't even know. It's not
it's not the same thing. It's the

1782
02:02:50.000 --> 02:02:54.319
same kind of thing. Though Jan
won't say it, but I will put

1783
02:02:54.439 --> 02:03:00.800
Walton Goggins in a goddamn book.
Let me smile on What are we waiting

1784
02:03:00.920 --> 02:03:06.920
for? He's waiting for gos Uh. He's playing the ghoul in the Fallout

1785
02:03:08.239 --> 02:03:12.880
TV series. She's gonna be TV
show. He should play the medieval guy?

1786
02:03:15.000 --> 02:03:19.279
What maybe like from the game from
the game for yeah, the skeleton

1787
02:03:19.439 --> 02:03:30.079
night. That's actually pretty good.
That person Johnny doesn't speaking mumbles, yeah,

1788
02:03:30.600 --> 02:03:35.359
has got a good mumble voice.
Walter would be very charming in video

1789
02:03:35.439 --> 02:03:39.520
games right now. You know,
I wonder I want to live in the

1790
02:03:39.560 --> 02:03:44.800
world where instead of uh, what's
it not to for Grace who's in twenty

1791
02:03:44.880 --> 02:03:50.000
four, Keifer kee Keefer to for
I get it. It's the same you

1792
02:03:50.079 --> 02:03:53.439
think, you think, you think
names I get it, Yeah, and

1793
02:03:53.560 --> 02:03:58.079
I get it. YO. Give
me a world where instead of Keifer Sutherland

1794
02:03:58.399 --> 02:04:01.399
blowing up and taking off, give
me a world where it was David Brianna's

1795
02:04:03.840 --> 02:04:13.640
he Stavy Seal guy Angel from the
Buffy verse. That's that's in between generation

1796
02:04:13.840 --> 02:04:18.239
thing there. That's a big forehead
gang. I always want to watch that

1797
02:04:18.439 --> 02:04:23.720
US Navy Seals show with David Borriann
I honest, which has been going on

1798
02:04:23.840 --> 02:04:27.199
for like ten years now or something
like that. I'm always so weirdly curious

1799
02:04:27.199 --> 02:04:30.359
about these shows that are like on
network TV and have ten plus seasons,

1800
02:04:30.479 --> 02:04:35.720
right, but what's the what's the
hospital show, Grey's Anatomy? How many

1801
02:04:35.800 --> 02:04:40.640
seasons does that have? Like eighty
four? She's not on the show anymore.

1802
02:04:40.720 --> 02:04:43.680
Ellen Pompeo is not on the show, but she was on She was

1803
02:04:43.760 --> 02:04:46.319
on it for like dozens of like
almost like two dozen seasons or something.

1804
02:04:46.359 --> 02:04:51.079
But the thing is it is called
Gray's Anatomy because she is married with Gray.

1805
02:04:51.640 --> 02:04:56.279
I don't understand how you continue to
have the show without her. Yes,

1806
02:04:56.479 --> 02:05:00.079
it's wild nineteen seasons, Okay,
that is I'm so morbidly curious about

1807
02:05:00.079 --> 02:05:03.000
that, because those seasons have like
twenty four episodes per season. They have

1808
02:05:03.159 --> 02:05:08.600
spinoffs as well to tie into to
it. I think you need to protect

1809
02:05:08.640 --> 02:05:11.760
yourself from Gray's Anatomy. I'm just
gonna say that. You know you're right,

1810
02:05:11.800 --> 02:05:13.880
but I might not what we were
gonna say, Mike, Well,

1811
02:05:13.960 --> 02:05:15.319
like Basic Philly is the same thing, right, because he's like beloved,

1812
02:05:15.479 --> 02:05:20.199
like cultiv yes from five and then
like his actual careers were first that show

1813
02:05:20.239 --> 02:05:24.199
where he was a writer Castle and
then he's been on the rook Rookie if

1814
02:05:24.359 --> 02:05:28.520
with just another network cops show that's
like that's where they all find themselves in

1815
02:05:28.600 --> 02:05:31.000
the end. Yep, there's a
that's where all the money is, lots

1816
02:05:31.039 --> 02:05:35.640
of money in them. They're cop
hills. All right, let's see here.

1817
02:05:36.920 --> 02:05:40.840
Okay, Boulders Kate three is still
on track, to hit Xbox before

1818
02:05:40.880 --> 02:05:44.920
the end of this year. They
basically just give an update saying latest on

1819
02:05:45.199 --> 02:05:48.520
on the Xbox version is, it's
being actively play tested, still on schedule

1820
02:05:48.600 --> 02:05:53.039
for this year. Will announce the
exact release state when we're sure it's done.

1821
02:05:54.039 --> 02:05:57.600
Hey, that's that's good news.
And there's you know, it's November

1822
02:05:57.720 --> 02:06:00.319
now you feel like, well,
you should must have to announce it now.

1823
02:06:00.680 --> 02:06:03.520
No, they could drop this whenever
because it's gonna be digital only at

1824
02:06:03.560 --> 02:06:06.239
first. So yeah, I know, we were kind of expecting to see

1825
02:06:06.279 --> 02:06:10.600
it in that Xbox Partner showcase and
a little surprise and show up and we're

1826
02:06:10.640 --> 02:06:14.000
maybe a little scared it was gonna
miss this year, but it seems like

1827
02:06:14.079 --> 02:06:19.119
it still should be. Okay there
yep. And then Remedy is also still

1828
02:06:19.159 --> 02:06:24.319
working on Control Too, Max Pain
wanted to remake, and a bunch more

1829
02:06:24.880 --> 02:06:29.119
Ready. Entertainment has provided updates on
several upcoming titles, including Control two,

1830
02:06:29.199 --> 02:06:33.039
Max Pay one plus two remake,
Condor, and code name Vanguard. Control

1831
02:06:33.079 --> 02:06:39.199
two is in the proof of concept
stage let's see here, while the Max

1832
02:06:39.279 --> 02:06:44.399
Pain remake is in the production readiness
stage. A Condor, a cooperative multiplayer

1833
02:06:44.479 --> 02:06:47.399
game, has progressed from the proof
of concept stage to the production readiness stage

1834
02:06:47.680 --> 02:06:50.960
and then code name Vanguard, a
game we don't know much about. Is

1835
02:06:51.319 --> 02:06:57.359
still in the early early planning stages. So obviously they just finished Allen Wake

1836
02:06:57.399 --> 02:07:00.000
two. They are working on a
lot of projects, but doesn't say.

1837
02:07:00.000 --> 02:07:02.279
I'm like they're working on them super
parallel. It is like an order of

1838
02:07:02.359 --> 02:07:05.720
operations thing they're finishing now in way
two, and they will mostly move on

1839
02:07:05.840 --> 02:07:11.520
to one of these other projects.
Sounds like Max Paying one and to Remake

1840
02:07:11.720 --> 02:07:15.399
and Condor will be the ones that
they're getting to next. Should I play

1841
02:07:15.479 --> 02:07:19.039
those? Well, that's what I'm
I've never really played the Max Paying games.

1842
02:07:19.920 --> 02:07:27.119
They're most there shooters like First and
Foremasts, but very fun, very

1843
02:07:27.279 --> 02:07:32.880
detmosphere. They get credited with like
bullet time. Uh yeah, I played

1844
02:07:32.880 --> 02:07:38.960
those in college in a big way. I just remember you there's something about

1845
02:07:39.319 --> 02:07:43.319
mouse and keyboard with those games,
were like, while Max is just parallel

1846
02:07:43.359 --> 02:07:45.520
to the ground, you could just
like swing that mouse around and just have

1847
02:07:45.680 --> 02:07:49.359
them flop around and the air like
that. It really is great. I

1848
02:07:49.520 --> 02:07:53.640
highly recommend mouse and keyboarding that if
you can't, that sounds great. Not

1849
02:07:53.920 --> 02:07:58.399
the GBA version well I'm gonna say
no. I'm gonna say no, you

1850
02:07:58.439 --> 02:08:01.800
can play keyboard to do a GB
if you really can put your control.

1851
02:08:01.279 --> 02:08:07.760
Control only came out in nineteen yeah, not that long ago, right,

1852
02:08:07.359 --> 02:08:13.079
Does anyone else put remedy in this, like they're just a little developer kind

1853
02:08:13.119 --> 02:08:16.159
of like bog my head yet more? I do. Yes, They've always

1854
02:08:16.239 --> 02:08:20.119
liked because they just put Almack two
and they had they were working on that,

1855
02:08:20.279 --> 02:08:24.119
uh what's the shooter that they helped
out with. Oh yeah, yeah,

1856
02:08:24.439 --> 02:08:28.680
the thing cross our campaign. So
they've like had work for higher projects,

1857
02:08:28.960 --> 02:08:33.680
multiple sequels that they're working on,
remakes, you know, Ala two

1858
02:08:33.760 --> 02:08:37.840
obviously a multiplayer game. They have
a lot of projects cooking. At the

1859
02:08:37.880 --> 02:08:41.199
same time, they've they've been trying
to expand. Seems like it's going to

1860
02:08:41.279 --> 02:08:43.439
work now, especially with this Epic
money and allen Wick two money. But

1861
02:08:43.520 --> 02:08:46.560
they got to be way more massive, right, like hundreds and hundreds of

1862
02:08:46.600 --> 02:08:50.720
people, right, Yeah, I
have no idea. I would probably put

1863
02:08:50.720 --> 02:08:52.239
them around two hundred people, two
hundred, maybe three hundred people at this

1864
02:08:52.279 --> 02:08:58.000
point and probably getting bigger. Wikipedia
says three sixty All right, there,

1865
02:08:58.039 --> 02:09:01.880
there you go, three sixty.
Good guess, good very good, all

1866
02:09:01.960 --> 02:09:05.439
right, And then Paper Mario the
Thousand Year Door has already been rated for

1867
02:09:05.560 --> 02:09:13.199
Switch. The highly praised GameCube exclusive
turn based RPG has been rated already in

1868
02:09:13.319 --> 02:09:16.840
Brazil and South Korea. This has
happened for a lot of games before,

1869
02:09:18.000 --> 02:09:22.039
and when it has happened, those
games usually come out within about six to

1870
02:09:22.199 --> 02:09:26.640
ten weeks after they get rated,
So that would put this game as very

1871
02:09:26.760 --> 02:09:28.800
early twenty twenty four, which I
hey, I would love that, lie

1872
02:09:28.840 --> 02:09:31.760
welcome it. It would expect a
bit of a buffer between this and the

1873
02:09:31.880 --> 02:09:37.520
Mario RPG remake, though, I
would you would expect it, unless like

1874
02:09:37.640 --> 02:09:41.079
they're worried about some other big games
coming. Then they're like, well,

1875
02:09:41.119 --> 02:09:43.399
no, we got to get this
out because you know, Princess of Peach

1876
02:09:43.479 --> 02:09:46.560
games coming out, and then it's
all in on switch to later in the

1877
02:09:46.640 --> 02:09:50.079
year. So listen, it is
better to get this game out a few

1878
02:09:50.159 --> 02:09:54.279
weeks after a super Mare RPG than
anytime after you announced the next switch,

1879
02:09:54.680 --> 02:09:58.600
because these games kind of just go
out to die if people are waiting for

1880
02:09:58.640 --> 02:10:03.239
that next system. So saw it
happened with Bowser's Inside Story remake on the

1881
02:10:03.279 --> 02:10:05.560
three D because that is exactly the
worst selling game ever. Yeah, that's

1882
02:10:05.600 --> 02:10:09.359
one hundred percent of avoid that situation. They've obviously learned the lesson there,

1883
02:10:09.399 --> 02:10:13.600
I think, so I wouldn't be
surprised if we get the Super RPG is

1884
02:10:13.640 --> 02:10:16.279
in November. God, how far
away are we from that? November?

1885
02:10:16.560 --> 02:10:22.319
I think tomorrow? Right, it's
tomorrow and Mario Ware in like three days?

1886
02:10:22.640 --> 02:10:28.479
No what? Yeah? Okay?
Yeah, uh so it's happening fast,

1887
02:10:28.520 --> 02:10:31.239
and then you know, I could
see this game coming out in January

1888
02:10:31.359 --> 02:10:35.720
or February or something like that.
Could be like even like, I guess,

1889
02:10:35.760 --> 02:10:37.840
is there gonna be a physical version
of this? I suppose there might

1890
02:10:37.880 --> 02:10:39.760
be. It might not shadow drop
it, but at like the next director,

1891
02:10:39.960 --> 02:10:43.079
it's going to be a box game. It better be in sixty phase

1892
02:10:43.119 --> 02:10:45.960
per second. By the way,
Oh yeah, right there with you.

1893
02:10:46.000 --> 02:10:48.720
That'll be very frustrating if that thirty
frames per second turns out to be the

1894
02:10:48.800 --> 02:10:52.399
case. Uh all right, that
does it for the news jam show.

1895
02:10:52.520 --> 02:10:56.119
It's yours again. I feel exhausted, So I got to take a quick

1896
02:10:56.159 --> 02:10:58.079
breaking break. Let's do it,
and then we'll read some emails, some

1897
02:10:58.159 --> 02:11:03.760
shout outs back. Calar is going
to go tend to I got Halloween,

1898
02:11:03.880 --> 02:11:07.279
I got Halloween affairs that need attention. So everyone have a great holiday,

1899
02:11:07.600 --> 02:11:16.760
enjoy yourselves like, see you next
time. Welcome back to the Giant BombCast

1900
02:11:16.880 --> 02:11:22.560
everyone. Jeff Beckler had to go
dip to go take care of Dib and

1901
02:11:22.680 --> 02:11:28.199
all of his hoodlums Halloween. So
Mike and Greb and I are gonna read

1902
02:11:28.520 --> 02:11:41.680
some emails emails. First email comes
from Chris. Oh also, you can

1903
02:11:41.720 --> 02:11:46.600
write into the show by writing to
BombCast at giant bomb dot com. BombCast

1904
02:11:46.640 --> 02:11:52.000
at giant bomb dot com. I
read all of the emails. I appreciate

1905
02:11:52.119 --> 02:11:54.199
all the emails. There was one
funny one that I got to send to

1906
02:11:54.279 --> 02:12:00.359
Backlar about his where he was over
the weekend and being spotted had a very

1907
02:12:00.399 --> 02:12:07.079
hyper specific place the strip Club.
Yes, yes, spotted him as the

1908
02:12:07.199 --> 02:12:13.159
trichologist. Uh God, that just
reminds me of a conversation I had yesterday.

1909
02:12:13.600 --> 02:12:18.119
First email comes from Chris. They
write in just finish the series.

1910
02:12:18.560 --> 02:12:24.560
Oh uh, this is an anamorph's
check. Just finish the series because the

1911
02:12:24.640 --> 02:12:26.880
only benefit of one hour train rides
to and from work is tons of reading

1912
02:12:26.960 --> 02:12:31.159
time. And wanted to see how
Jan and Grubb were doing on their animals.

1913
02:12:31.239 --> 02:12:35.039
Read reading the series in my thirties
really hammers home that I read them

1914
02:12:35.239 --> 02:12:39.920
entirely too young, missed the crippling
PTSD and casual war crimes as a grade

1915
02:12:39.920 --> 02:12:45.760
school kid, but love the animals
and PlayStation jokes, Love Chris, Yeah,

1916
02:12:45.840 --> 02:12:48.600
of course, I mean, who's
not gonna love the animals and PlayStation

1917
02:12:48.760 --> 02:12:52.560
jokes. I still have only read
the first book, but hearing that you

1918
02:12:52.720 --> 02:12:56.319
got onto book ten jam makes me
want to continue because I enjoyed myself.

1919
02:12:56.359 --> 02:13:01.119
I had a good time. Well, they're very quick reads. I mean

1920
02:13:01.199 --> 02:13:03.960
it's there. They're YA novels,
so they're very thin, and like the

1921
02:13:03.159 --> 02:13:07.840
they're like not like oh YA is
like oh Harry Potter's y A. It's

1922
02:13:07.880 --> 02:13:11.479
like no, it's it's younger than
that. Yeah, And I think they're

1923
02:13:11.479 --> 02:13:15.600
they're actually legitimately good books, and
I think it's it's interesting that no one

1924
02:13:15.720 --> 02:13:20.079
has tried to do it again and
try and adapt it yet. I feel

1925
02:13:20.119 --> 02:13:24.399
like it could be very good,
but it is very challenging because like,

1926
02:13:24.359 --> 02:13:26.760
you know, you're gonna have shoot
animals, you're gonna have c g I

1927
02:13:26.920 --> 02:13:31.840
animals. It's hard for animals to
emote, and that's why I didn't like

1928
02:13:31.960 --> 02:13:37.680
The Lion King uh, John Fava, cats can't move their jaws left or

1929
02:13:37.720 --> 02:13:39.600
right. They can only move them
up or down. How are you gonna

1930
02:13:39.600 --> 02:13:43.119
make a face when you can't even
move your face? It doesn't matter.

1931
02:13:43.079 --> 02:13:50.960
Eat check cats. That's right suck? But is it Lion King? One

1932
02:13:50.000 --> 02:13:56.720
of their biggest blockbuster, that's the
highest grossing animated movie of all time,

1933
02:13:58.039 --> 02:14:03.760
the Jon Favreau one, right,
but on fab roh one technically an anime.

1934
02:14:05.000 --> 02:14:07.840
Technically it just is an animated movie. That's insane. Apparently he took

1935
02:14:07.880 --> 02:14:13.800
that tech and has made a dinosaur
show kind of want to check. Not

1936
02:14:13.920 --> 02:14:18.239
the Mama, not the mama.
I'm the baby God? I love me?

1937
02:14:18.399 --> 02:14:20.600
Don't you wish they're warmer of me? I should just got that whole

1938
02:14:20.680 --> 02:14:24.840
song you are? You remind me
of the baby from Dinosaurs? I know,

1939
02:14:26.159 --> 02:14:33.920
I know the mikey God. I
love me. Don't you wish they're

1940
02:14:33.960 --> 02:14:37.920
warmer of me? Okay, we
gotta make a holiday shirt Mike one.

1941
02:14:39.000 --> 02:14:43.399
Okay, one in a millionaire.
You gotta love me, you gotta love

1942
02:14:43.479 --> 02:14:48.560
me? All right? Uh We
We talked about some oreo tech last week

1943
02:14:48.640 --> 02:14:52.760
on the show, and Adam from
Boise, Idaho writes in about their own

1944
02:14:52.920 --> 02:15:00.439
not Oreo quiz oreo tech Uh they
write in and tell us the your giant

1945
02:15:00.479 --> 02:15:03.399
bomb perves. That's true. Any
way you can buy an oreos and milk

1946
02:15:03.520 --> 02:15:07.520
is probably great. But I think
the best way is to stick a fork

1947
02:15:07.560 --> 02:15:11.560
in the cream and then completely submerge
the oreo. Takes a little trial and

1948
02:15:11.640 --> 02:15:16.239
air to get the timing, but
generally when the initial bubble stream slows is

1949
02:15:16.319 --> 02:15:18.359
the right to take it out so
it doesn't fall apart much. I love

1950
02:15:18.479 --> 02:15:24.159
Adam from Boise. I don't like
what oreos. I don't do the milk

1951
02:15:24.239 --> 02:15:30.560
stuff. I like a crunchy regular
oreo personally, aren't you You're not much

1952
02:15:30.600 --> 02:15:33.520
of a cookie guy at all,
though, right that's true, but like,

1953
02:15:33.560 --> 02:15:35.640
you know, not even that much
of a chocolate guy. But oreos

1954
02:15:35.680 --> 02:15:41.439
are fucking amazing. If I was
the one that says he like doesn't ever

1955
02:15:41.640 --> 02:15:43.880
have cookies, he's right. But
I bet if we told Dan like oreos

1956
02:15:43.920 --> 02:15:48.319
are cookies, he'd be shocked to
learn that. I think he cookies.

1957
02:15:50.039 --> 02:15:54.159
If I think, if I wonder
if telling him asking what flavor he thinks

1958
02:15:54.199 --> 02:15:58.720
an oreo is, what answer that
would uh? We'd get it means just

1959
02:15:58.760 --> 02:16:01.520
cook He's a cream. It's like
chocolate cookies and cream flavor. But what

1960
02:16:01.560 --> 02:16:05.600
do you say it's chocolate? I
think he'd say it's just chocolate. I

1961
02:16:05.680 --> 02:16:09.199
mean that is the predominant flavor is
chocolate. I mean the cream fill is

1962
02:16:09.239 --> 02:16:15.199
basically just a sugar filling, sugar
chocolate. Yeah, I hope. Oh

1963
02:16:16.039 --> 02:16:18.479
maybe I'm gonna get Maybe I'll get
a pack of the Halloween Oreos before I

1964
02:16:18.560 --> 02:16:24.399
go. So, like see my
nevity nieces for trigger treating because he's eat

1965
02:16:24.439 --> 02:16:26.920
them all. Yeah, well that's
why I watched an addiction for me,

1966
02:16:26.479 --> 02:16:30.479
right exactly. I'd never buy them
because I just know, like, if

1967
02:16:30.520 --> 02:16:33.479
I buy a pack of oreos,
I live alone. It's just admitting,

1968
02:16:33.520 --> 02:16:35.760
well, all that is going to
go inside me at some point, and

1969
02:16:35.879 --> 02:16:39.559
that's a problem. We can't do
that. So I'll buy them and bring

1970
02:16:39.680 --> 02:16:41.520
them in a bunch of kids will
eat them, and if they don't,

1971
02:16:41.079 --> 02:16:45.840
I have a family, And now
I'm a family on to myself. When

1972
02:16:45.879 --> 02:16:48.440
it comes to oreos. Yeah,
oreos, they yeah, those are just

1973
02:16:48.520 --> 02:16:52.200
good good lard cookies. Oh yeah, so top top tier lard cookie.

1974
02:16:52.319 --> 02:16:56.079
Oh yeah, they're not vegan,
are they? Oreos can't be vegan?

1975
02:16:56.120 --> 02:17:01.159
I thought I sustly just well the
cream inside right, Yeah, even the

1976
02:17:01.239 --> 02:17:07.840
cookie has a ton of like fat
apparently really okay, So yeah, some

1977
02:17:07.079 --> 02:17:11.360
hard esque product, Yeah, Chris, go okay? Where where where do

1978
02:17:11.440 --> 02:17:18.479
you two fall? On the double
stuff regular or the thin Oreo regular regular?

1979
02:17:18.440 --> 02:17:22.639
I think I write most ratio.
Yeah, I mostly want a regular,

1980
02:17:22.719 --> 02:17:24.879
but I'm not gonna turn my nose
up at any of them. Double

1981
02:17:24.920 --> 02:17:30.280
stuff these days are a bit too
much for me, which is do you

1982
02:17:30.360 --> 02:17:33.200
remember you guys have It's gonna happen
to you too, you know what I'm

1983
02:17:33.239 --> 02:17:37.520
scared. I talked about headlamps for
a little bit today. I used to

1984
02:17:37.639 --> 02:17:43.079
really like those white fudge covered ones. That's a bit much for me also,

1985
02:17:43.319 --> 02:17:46.360
but those are fun. Uh how
do you? How do y'all feel

1986
02:17:46.360 --> 02:17:50.840
about the different skews of Oreos?
Like the holiday flavor. I'm glad they're

1987
02:17:50.840 --> 02:17:52.239
out there for those freaks that need
I'm just giving the give me the regulars,

1988
02:17:52.280 --> 02:17:56.719
give me the I like it better
when they just color them, like

1989
02:17:56.760 --> 02:18:01.200
the Halloween ones that are the same
flavor. That's good, the cinem the

1990
02:18:01.479 --> 02:18:03.920
there's like a digitar bread cookie one
that's okay, But yeah, I just

1991
02:18:03.920 --> 02:18:05.600
give me. I can have so
many like those ones. I actually maybe

1992
02:18:05.600 --> 02:18:11.280
I like cause I can stop eating
them where Yeah, okay, okay,

1993
02:18:13.280 --> 02:18:15.799
God, I gotta go to the
store after this. Yeah, me too.

1994
02:18:15.840 --> 02:18:20.040
I gotta buy some fucking oreos now, damn all of you emailing?

1995
02:18:20.760 --> 02:18:22.840
All right, Well, while we're
at the store, Mike, maybe we

1996
02:18:22.920 --> 02:18:28.719
buy some juice because Jeremy from Montreal
writes in about juicy games, Hey Bombers.

1997
02:18:30.719 --> 02:18:33.600
In game design, there's a term
that describes the extra details that don't

1998
02:18:33.799 --> 02:18:39.840
directly affect gameplay, but instead aim
to invoke feelings from that gameplay to make

1999
02:18:39.920 --> 02:18:45.639
it feel better. That term is
juice. I've been playing Super Mario Wonder

2000
02:18:45.680 --> 02:18:48.559
over the last week, and while
you can argue whether it's the best two

2001
02:18:48.639 --> 02:18:54.000
D Mario platform or there's no arguing
it is the juiciest Mario game. Mario's

2002
02:18:54.040 --> 02:18:58.000
new and varied animations, when he
jumps the drum roll and crash, when

2003
02:18:58.040 --> 02:19:01.399
Mario butd stomps the enemy faces,
when the witnessed the murder of their fellow

2004
02:19:01.520 --> 02:19:05.440
enemy, it all comes together in
an explosion of juice. Do you guys

2005
02:19:05.479 --> 02:19:09.920
have any favorite juicy aspects from Super
Mario Wonder? And also can you think

2006
02:19:09.959 --> 02:19:13.879
of any other games with this level
of juice. Thanks for all you do.

2007
02:19:13.239 --> 02:19:18.479
Love you guys. Jeremy from Montreal. So I started watching some tiktoks

2008
02:19:18.600 --> 02:19:22.600
and some YouTube shorts about Super Mario
Brothers Wonder and I would watch them on

2009
02:19:22.760 --> 02:19:28.360
a loop, way longer than I
intended to because of this juice. Like

2010
02:19:28.639 --> 02:19:33.159
hearing the it's like a it's like
a slot machine almost this game. Yeah,

2011
02:19:33.360 --> 02:19:35.159
like collecting I think my family.
The juiciest part for me, I

2012
02:19:35.200 --> 02:19:39.959
think is collecting the purple coins.
The sound that those make as you collect

2013
02:19:41.000 --> 02:19:43.760
them, and they're all usually bunched
together, so you're getting the even really

2014
02:19:43.799 --> 02:19:48.440
fast. It's really it just lights
up my brain. But the whole game

2015
02:19:48.520 --> 02:19:50.920
is that way. So yeah,
I'm definitely like a huge part of I'm

2016
02:19:50.000 --> 02:19:56.639
like definitely super down Jesus Christ.
Yeah, just like the different pipe animation,

2017
02:19:56.799 --> 02:20:01.719
especially since that's such that's like the
biggest point of comparison of the complete

2018
02:20:01.799 --> 02:20:05.360
lack of juice in New Super Mario
Brothers. Just nothing happens when they go

2019
02:20:05.479 --> 02:20:11.440
down to pipe except that literal character
model just literally moves like down the axis

2020
02:20:11.719 --> 02:20:15.799
into it. There's no animation.
It's like just clicking on it and sliding

2021
02:20:15.879 --> 02:20:18.239
it down, like that's all they're
doing to it, right. So like

2022
02:20:18.319 --> 02:20:20.559
the fact that there's like animations and
all this fun stuff when they're doing pipe

2023
02:20:20.639 --> 02:20:24.680
shenanigans in this game, that's the
juiciest part of Wonder for me. Yeah,

2024
02:20:24.760 --> 02:20:28.440
I love that aspect of it too, And I this pains be inside

2025
02:20:28.520 --> 02:20:35.920
as a Sonic fan that Sonic Superstars
is devoid of juice. There's very little

2026
02:20:35.000 --> 02:20:37.719
juice. You're correct, there's not
much juice, that's for sure. You

2027
02:20:37.799 --> 02:20:41.680
know what was a really juicy game, and I think that it helped it

2028
02:20:41.200 --> 02:20:45.639
pop off so much at first was
Overwatch. That was very juicy. Yeah,

2029
02:20:46.000 --> 02:20:50.760
remember how excited people were just about
the reload animations and like, yeah,

2030
02:20:50.920 --> 02:20:52.600
that's the kind of stuff that in
year five you kind of begin to

2031
02:20:52.639 --> 02:20:56.360
take for granted. That was so
much a lie. Overwatch was awesome at

2032
02:20:56.399 --> 02:21:01.520
first. It was juicy as all
hell. Trying to think of other games

2033
02:21:01.559 --> 02:21:05.680
as like good juice, I think
I think like there's like subtle juice,

2034
02:21:05.719 --> 02:21:09.559
Like Hades has a lot of just
extral elms on all the all the attacks,

2035
02:21:11.120 --> 02:21:13.760
and as you upgrade them and unlock
more abilities for them, they get

2036
02:21:13.840 --> 02:21:16.520
juicier and juicier the last ration,
and Klank has a lot of juice as

2037
02:21:16.559 --> 02:21:22.319
well. Yeah, yeah, it's
the parts juicy street Fighter six pretty juicyal

2038
02:21:22.360 --> 02:21:28.840
Combat one literally more juicy. But
six Vampire Survivors is a good one.

2039
02:21:28.920 --> 02:21:31.600
Yeah. Oh yeah, that's that's
almost too much juice. It's it's your

2040
02:21:31.639 --> 02:21:35.559
bathing and the blood drowning in it. Yeah, it's like a it's like

2041
02:21:35.639 --> 02:21:43.319
a blood rave almost all right.
Next email comes from someone and I forgot

2042
02:21:43.360 --> 02:21:48.000
to write their name and I apologize. Feel free to take these forty podcast

2043
02:21:48.079 --> 02:21:54.920
points as a consolation prize. This
is about Luigi's mansion. Is Luigi's mansion

2044
02:21:54.120 --> 02:21:58.920
an Alan Wake like? Or is
Alan Wake Luigi's mansion? Like? Should

2045
02:22:00.159 --> 02:22:03.159
you refer to games where you have
to use your flashlight on enemies before you

2046
02:22:03.200 --> 02:22:07.440
can defeat them as an Allen's mansions? What other Allen's mansions and Alan Manchin's

2047
02:22:07.520 --> 02:22:13.719
lights are there? An like?
Uh? Well, Alista mention was definitely

2048
02:22:13.760 --> 02:22:16.840
first, that's for sure, so
I guess it gets the bulk of the

2049
02:22:16.920 --> 02:22:22.360
credit. Although like it was first
and right compared to Yeah, yeah,

2050
02:22:22.440 --> 02:22:26.360
so that means it would be so
actually, then Alan Wake's name would be

2051
02:22:26.399 --> 02:22:31.760
first, like it would be Alan
Manchin for sure. Okay, yeah,

2052
02:22:33.159 --> 02:22:39.000
yeahs, you're right. Someone please
mod in a Luigi skin into Alan Wake.

2053
02:22:39.959 --> 02:22:43.360
That's got to happen. I mean, that's probably happened the first one.

2054
02:22:43.399 --> 02:22:46.280
At some point people have made this
connection, right, that's how to

2055
02:22:46.399 --> 02:22:52.479
have happened. Yeah. Yeah,
Three is such a good game. That

2056
02:22:52.520 --> 02:22:56.879
game has juice. Talk about very
juicy. The punch out for me from

2057
02:22:58.000 --> 02:23:01.520
from Next Level as well. Yeah, Toad has juice? Well yeah,

2058
02:23:01.799 --> 02:23:07.840
yeah, yeah, yeah, Mario
Mario games have juice, but three D

2059
02:23:07.959 --> 02:23:11.360
Mario games and they're spin offs.
Definitely a lot of juice until Wonder,

2060
02:23:11.799 --> 02:23:16.520
Yeah yeah, Sunshine, literally a
lot of juice. Kirby has juice,

2061
02:23:18.520 --> 02:23:22.360
well, Kirby, uh, Forgotten
World, definitely Forgotten Land. Excuse me,

2062
02:23:22.520 --> 02:23:26.440
tons of juice. Kirby has juice
is the name of this episode,

2063
02:23:26.479 --> 02:23:30.879
by the way, I thought it
was going to be Mike Minave. Okay,

2064
02:23:30.959 --> 02:23:35.319
that's also pretty good. All right, Next emails about cream For reasons

2065
02:23:35.399 --> 02:23:39.479
we don't get into. I once
had to research fat percentages in milk and

2066
02:23:39.639 --> 02:23:45.319
cream. This is what I remember. Skim milk. Skim milk is virtually

2067
02:23:45.399 --> 02:23:50.959
fat free. Yes, milk is
self explanatory. Whole milk is around three

2068
02:23:50.879 --> 02:23:54.920
three and a quarter percent fat.
It's also called whole milk because no fat

2069
02:23:56.000 --> 02:24:00.520
is removed from it. I'm no
cream expert, but from what I understand,

2070
02:24:00.639 --> 02:24:05.079
when non homogenized milk is left undisturbed, the fat separates from the rest

2071
02:24:05.120 --> 02:24:07.200
of the milk. This fatty part
of the milk is cream. The cream

2072
02:24:07.319 --> 02:24:13.000
does, in fact rise to the
top. Cream comes in multiple milk fat

2073
02:24:13.000 --> 02:24:15.959
percentages. Like cream is about twenty
percent fat, but can go upwards to

2074
02:24:16.079 --> 02:24:20.479
thirty. Whipping cream, also called
light whipping cream, is anything from thirty

2075
02:24:20.520 --> 02:24:22.959
to thirty six percent fat. Heavy
cream, also called heavy whipping cream,

2076
02:24:24.120 --> 02:24:28.280
is anything thirty thirty six percent fat
or more just for good measure. Sour

2077
02:24:28.399 --> 02:24:35.159
cream is made by introducing lactic acid
bacteria to cream, which makes it thickened

2078
02:24:35.200 --> 02:24:37.879
and ferment. Cream is using soups, stews, whipped cream, ice cream,

2079
02:24:39.120 --> 02:24:41.399
and lots of other stuff. Cream
is great. Joe from New York.

2080
02:24:41.680 --> 02:24:43.920
I realized we should have saved this
for when Dan is around, but

2081
02:24:45.040 --> 02:24:52.200
I don't know he wouldn't. Yeah
come in initially surprised that cream and milk

2082
02:24:52.280 --> 02:24:56.799
are similar things, like, what
are we gonna do? Yeah, Joe

2083
02:24:56.840 --> 02:25:01.000
continues, PS, here's something you
can do at all. Take some heavy

2084
02:25:01.079 --> 02:25:05.159
cream and pour it into a bottle
about halfway. Close the bottle tight and

2085
02:25:05.280 --> 02:25:09.200
shake for around ten minutes. Eventually
you'll get a big lump of stuff in

2086
02:25:09.239 --> 02:25:15.079
the bottle. That's butter. That
liquid that's left is buttermilk. Oh,

2087
02:25:15.760 --> 02:25:20.000
there are better ways to make bitter. There are better ways to make butter,

2088
02:25:20.360 --> 02:25:24.760
but it's still fun. PPS centrifuge, which I have. Of course,

2089
02:25:24.479 --> 02:25:28.360
out of all of us, you
know, Backlard probably have a central.

2090
02:25:28.840 --> 02:25:31.120
He definitely would. Yeah, he
would have cnuts and just never gave

2091
02:25:31.159 --> 02:25:37.920
it back. Yeah, and they
never realized that they had. All Right,

2092
02:25:37.280 --> 02:25:41.760
we'll all end the email segment with
a quiz, A TV quiz.

2093
02:25:43.360 --> 02:25:48.079
Oh, let's go, hey gang. Several weeks ago, you talked about

2094
02:25:48.120 --> 02:25:50.760
TV shows you had heard of but
never knew nothing about. This made me

2095
02:25:50.840 --> 02:25:54.360
realize how little I knew about a
number of shows I definitely watch as a

2096
02:25:54.479 --> 02:25:58.680
kid or young adult. Trying to
figure out if I could recall a single

2097
02:25:58.799 --> 02:26:03.760
episode that pursuit. I was surprised
how long or short lived a number of

2098
02:26:03.879 --> 02:26:07.239
shows were, so I made a
simple quiz about it. Each question is

2099
02:26:07.319 --> 02:26:11.520
a group of three shows associated with
a TV network except the last one.

2100
02:26:11.239 --> 02:26:15.879
All you have to do is say
which of these three had the most episodes

2101
02:26:15.959 --> 02:26:18.639
produced. Some of them didn't air
all of their episodes, but I think

2102
02:26:18.680 --> 02:26:22.719
the correct answer is the same in
either case. Answer keys at the bottom.

2103
02:26:22.920 --> 02:26:26.920
Don't worry boys, I did not
put the answer key here, great,

2104
02:26:26.959 --> 02:26:31.639
thank you somewhere else to avoid wandering
eyes. All right, maybe I

2105
02:26:31.799 --> 02:26:37.760
wasn't he I've opened the doclke once
this entire don't worry about me? Okay,

2106
02:26:37.479 --> 02:26:41.600
Now, which of these had the
most episodes? Network? ABC?

2107
02:26:43.079 --> 02:26:48.079
The options are better Off Ted,
cave Men, cop Rock. Cave Men

2108
02:26:48.239 --> 02:26:52.079
was one for like two episodes or
something, so it's not cave Men.

2109
02:26:52.280 --> 02:26:56.600
I don't know about those other two. Yeah, I want to say better

2110
02:26:56.680 --> 02:27:00.920
off Ted, but I think cop
Rock got a full season, so I'm

2111
02:27:00.920 --> 02:27:03.840
gonna go with cop Rock. I
think people are too upset about CapMan,

2112
02:27:03.879 --> 02:27:05.440
like, oh, I can't believe
they're turning a commercial into a sitcom,

2113
02:27:05.760 --> 02:27:13.799
like how dare they? Yeah?
Pretty network commercializing network television. Mike.

2114
02:27:13.920 --> 02:27:18.600
Yeah, I said, I'm going
with Coprock. What's your answer, Mike,

2115
02:27:18.920 --> 02:27:20.879
I'll go the other one, better
off Ted? Mike, you win

2116
02:27:22.120 --> 02:27:26.639
better off Ted had twenty six episodes, Let's go Wow, Caveman had thirteen,

2117
02:27:26.760 --> 02:27:30.239
and cop Rock had eleven, though
none of the three shows ended up

2118
02:27:30.280 --> 02:27:33.639
airing its full uh to full completement. Man, that's more for Caveman than

2119
02:27:33.680 --> 02:27:39.040
I thought. Okay, all right, Number two CBS. The shows are

2120
02:27:39.680 --> 02:27:46.440
CSI, Colon Cyber cool. I
want to see that now. My big

2121
02:27:46.559 --> 02:27:52.000
fact is and then third is shit. My dad says, aka ship,

2122
02:27:52.079 --> 02:27:58.120
My dad says, start Shatner,
all right with William Shatner. I think

2123
02:27:58.399 --> 02:28:01.760
I think Ship my dad has got
us season. I think they had,

2124
02:28:01.799 --> 02:28:07.319
They gave that the old College try. I feel like a CSI show like

2125
02:28:07.719 --> 02:28:11.680
just automatically gets a ton of episodes, even if it's not gonna be a

2126
02:28:11.680 --> 02:28:16.799
full Season'm gonna go CSI Cyber Grub
You in CSI Cyber has thirty one episodes.

2127
02:28:18.319 --> 02:28:22.399
My ship right, uh sh My
dad says, somehow made eighteen.

2128
02:28:22.760 --> 02:28:26.680
In My Big Fat Greek Life had
seven episodes. It would it be great

2129
02:28:26.680 --> 02:28:31.280
if we just watch every episode of
CSI Cyber. That'd be fantastic. Oh

2130
02:28:31.440 --> 02:28:37.120
my, don't say that. The
content the content is that? Is that

2131
02:28:37.200 --> 02:28:43.440
on Paramount Plus? You think it's
on dot Org all right, NBC.

2132
02:28:45.120 --> 02:28:52.360
The options are ALF, my Name
is Earl, and Suddenly Susan. I'll

2133
02:28:52.479 --> 02:28:54.559
go with my name is Earl.
My name is Earl was on for a

2134
02:28:54.719 --> 02:29:00.200
while because that was on because it
was like a It was on the same

2135
02:29:00.239 --> 02:29:03.920
time as The Office, so it
was like they benefit benefited from Office.

2136
02:29:03.959 --> 02:29:09.879
It was like the same night,
Suddenly Susan. I've never heard of Suddenly

2137
02:29:09.959 --> 02:29:13.920
Susan. That's is that the Lily
dreyfust one that it's not? I thought

2138
02:29:13.920 --> 02:29:18.000
it was. I've only ever heard
of Suddenly Susan when they make jokes about

2139
02:29:18.000 --> 02:29:22.879
it on Mystery Science Theater three thousand. The thing is, my name is

2140
02:29:22.959 --> 02:29:26.479
Earl. It was I don't know
how many episodes of season that one got.

2141
02:29:28.280 --> 02:29:31.239
I feel like it was on forever. I thought it was on for

2142
02:29:31.559 --> 02:29:33.440
for forever, but it was on
for I mean, ALF wasn't on for

2143
02:29:33.559 --> 02:29:39.000
like a short amount of time.
So these ones are all My other guests

2144
02:29:39.000 --> 02:29:43.399
would be ALF here. These are
all multi seasons. Yes, so Jeff's

2145
02:29:43.399 --> 02:29:46.440
saying, my name is Earl,
right, yeah, and I have to

2146
02:29:46.479 --> 02:29:48.680
beat him, so I'll go.
I'll go Suddenly Susan. Actually, Oh

2147
02:29:48.799 --> 02:29:52.440
okay, I like this movie.
Our course well, you both are wrong,

2148
02:29:52.920 --> 02:29:56.040
ship shit and it's alf. I
wish I could have changed my answer,

2149
02:29:56.120 --> 02:29:58.559
but in the end it's always alf. Alf with one hundred and two

2150
02:29:58.600 --> 02:30:03.879
episodes, my name is earl Uh
with ninety six and do you guys want

2151
02:30:03.879 --> 02:30:07.639
to guess how many episodes? Suddenly
Susan had five. I'm gonna I'm gonna

2152
02:30:07.760 --> 02:30:13.239
say ninety three. Oh, okay, Dan was close. It was close,

2153
02:30:13.680 --> 02:30:16.719
close race there? All right,
Fox, we have Ally McBeal,

2154
02:30:18.040 --> 02:30:22.399
the Bernie Max Show, in the
OC. These they are all popular shows.

2155
02:30:24.479 --> 02:30:26.799
I'm i'm gonna say Alan mcbill right
now, I feel like that was

2156
02:30:26.840 --> 02:30:31.079
on forever, Allan m'abel. I'll
go with the OC. Then, Mike,

2157
02:30:31.319 --> 02:30:35.000
I think you're in the lead here
with Ally mcbeil m. That's definitely

2158
02:30:35.040 --> 02:30:39.159
the right. I don't know always. I know what Eleman Bill is because

2159
02:30:39.159 --> 02:30:41.040
people talk about all time. I
couldn't tell you a single thing about that

2160
02:30:41.120 --> 02:30:46.079
show. What's about? What the
genre is? The baby? What the

2161
02:30:46.200 --> 02:30:50.639
dancing baby? Like that? I
remember the Dancing Baby that's from Ally McBeal.

2162
02:30:50.959 --> 02:30:56.440
They like co opted it. Okay, okay, is it comedy?

2163
02:30:56.120 --> 02:31:01.399
No, it's dramedy, right?
Does it's star a character? Named Ally

2164
02:31:01.479 --> 02:31:05.760
mcbeil. Yeah, yeah, it's
like a it's a it's like a lawyer

2165
02:31:05.840 --> 02:31:09.680
show. Right, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, all right,

2166
02:31:09.920 --> 02:31:13.440
Ally mcbeill one hundred and twelve,
Bernie Mack had one hundred and four,

2167
02:31:13.200 --> 02:31:18.600
and OC had ninety two. Right, we'll get this. There's twelve of

2168
02:31:18.680 --> 02:31:24.360
these, so number five tbs.
We have ten items or less? Are

2169
02:31:24.440 --> 02:31:31.360
we there yet at the Bill Engvall
show? All right? What ten items

2170
02:31:31.399 --> 02:31:39.159
are less? We're guessing who had
the most right most episodes? Do you

2171
02:31:39.239 --> 02:31:43.959
mean what are we guessing? This
is the fifth one? I was distracted

2172
02:31:45.879 --> 02:31:50.360
the horrifying dancing baby thing. Ten
items a less? Probably it's right,

2173
02:31:50.440 --> 02:31:54.440
but I'll go with are we there
yet? Mike? What did you say?

2174
02:31:56.479 --> 02:32:01.399
Or less? Grab? Are you
even at back up? All right?

2175
02:32:01.520 --> 02:32:05.719
Luck? Cluck, lug luck?
Are we there yet with one hundreds

2176
02:32:07.239 --> 02:32:11.399
ten times their last only managing twenty
one episodes? Or are these shows and

2177
02:32:11.520 --> 02:32:18.200
then being Bill Engvall hitting thirty?
Okay? All right? Next we have

2178
02:32:18.319 --> 02:32:24.040
USA, where characters are welcome the
shows to choose from our burn notice Monk

2179
02:32:24.600 --> 02:32:31.479
and White Collar have infinite shows episodes. I think a new Monk special is

2180
02:32:31.520 --> 02:32:33.479
coming out, or it did come
out, But I think it's burn.

2181
02:32:33.559 --> 02:32:39.040
Notice. I love me some Shalub. I'll go with Monk. Mike,

2182
02:32:41.440 --> 02:32:45.680
he said burn Notice. Notice this
was a dramatic pause. Oh, Mike,

2183
02:32:46.840 --> 02:32:52.639
you are incorrect. No, grub
ekes out Monk with one hundred and

2184
02:32:52.680 --> 02:32:56.760
twenty five episodes. Tony has never
failed many man, But I knew that

2185
02:32:56.879 --> 02:33:01.280
was on for a while. Jeez, but burn notice very close with one

2186
02:33:01.319 --> 02:33:03.520
hundred and eleven episodes. I knew
it also had a lot. Yeah,

2187
02:33:05.079 --> 02:33:09.000
white Collar was the other one,
White Caller. I watched white Collar.

2188
02:33:09.319 --> 02:33:13.639
White Collar had eighty one episodes.
All right, color is the one.

2189
02:33:13.719 --> 02:33:16.360
It's like, catch me if you
can. But the TV show version like,

2190
02:33:16.399 --> 02:33:18.840
oh, a guy that did crime
is gonna help himself crime. There's

2191
02:33:20.000 --> 02:33:22.639
too many episodes of Monk to do
a watch along show, guys. No,

2192
02:33:24.200 --> 02:33:26.639
uh, you can one of the
first few seasons before it begins becomes

2193
02:33:26.639 --> 02:33:33.440
a little route. Maybe uh next
the WB the shows are Angel, Dawson's

2194
02:33:33.479 --> 02:33:41.959
Creek and Felicity. Ohy coming up
next on that bay. It's another bad

2195
02:33:41.040 --> 02:33:46.000
show that no one appropriation. You're
not allowed to do that. I can't

2196
02:33:46.040 --> 02:33:48.879
be that frog with that frog's name, William J. Frog, Right,

2197
02:33:50.120 --> 02:33:56.879
yeah, something like that, Billy
Frog, Mike, you have tied with

2198
02:33:56.000 --> 02:34:00.959
grub I believe Dawson's Creek with one
hundred and twenty eight episodes. Yeah,

2199
02:34:01.040 --> 02:34:05.200
Austin's Creek was on forever. All
right, that's another watch along Angel with

2200
02:34:05.280 --> 02:34:09.319
one ten and Felicity had eighty four. I can't wait for the Felicity cast.

2201
02:34:09.639 --> 02:34:11.959
Angel keeps coming up today for some
reason or spike that we talked about.

2202
02:34:13.040 --> 02:34:18.959
Now, Angel, excuse me,
Buffy's True soulmate number eight Comedy Central.

2203
02:34:20.239 --> 02:34:26.319
We have John Benjamin has a Van. Lewis Black's the root of all

2204
02:34:26.399 --> 02:34:33.680
evil, and that's my Bush,
a loose Black. I'll go with John

2205
02:34:33.680 --> 02:34:39.399
Benjamin has a Van. Mike is
eking away now with Lewis Black with eighteen

2206
02:34:39.440 --> 02:34:43.920
episodes, ten episodes to John Benjamin? Sorry, what the fuck was that?

2207
02:34:45.399 --> 02:34:48.959
And that's my Bush with eight episodes? There should have been more.

2208
02:34:48.959 --> 02:34:50.920
If that's my bush, I wonder
what now that holds up? That's my

2209
02:34:52.360 --> 02:34:54.920
because that's the whole thing, because
they were going to do either a Bush

2210
02:34:54.200 --> 02:34:58.959
or an al Gore show depending on
who won. Was the South Park People's

2211
02:34:58.280 --> 02:35:01.959
live action say, oh, I
didn't even know that's what that was.

2212
02:35:01.360 --> 02:35:05.440
Okay, yeah, man, I
remember what was happening. I watched a

2213
02:35:05.479 --> 02:35:07.959
little bit of it, but I
don't remember anything about it. Uh.

2214
02:35:09.000 --> 02:35:13.399
Now we might be in Mikey territory. Number nine, the network being Nickelodeon.

2215
02:35:15.159 --> 02:35:20.479
Okay, the choices are ah,
real Monsters, Angry Beavers, or

2216
02:35:20.600 --> 02:35:26.200
cat dog, and these are all
pretty equivalent. I feel like, yeah,

2217
02:35:26.000 --> 02:35:28.799
I'm gonna go with the one I'm
most familiar with and go ah real

2218
02:35:28.920 --> 02:35:35.479
monsters. I remember Agriy Beaver's last
episodes. Man, they made a lot

2219
02:35:35.520 --> 02:35:39.079
of cat dog, though way too
much. They added a cat at one

2220
02:35:39.120 --> 02:35:43.600
point. Yeah, a putgesque character. I'm gonna go with cat dog.

2221
02:35:43.680 --> 02:35:48.479
Actually, yeah, I could see
it being cat dog. And you're right,

2222
02:35:48.600 --> 02:35:52.440
Mike, it's cat dog. How
about that cat dog? Sixty eight

2223
02:35:52.479 --> 02:35:56.760
episodes are Real Monsters? Fifty two
episodes Angry Beavers had sixty two. Note

2224
02:35:56.920 --> 02:36:01.680
that each of these shows was usually
divide it into two segments per episode,

2225
02:36:01.920 --> 02:36:05.280
which doesn't end up affecting the winner. No. One, Fine Day with

2226
02:36:05.360 --> 02:36:07.840
the Wolf and a purr Baby was
born to cause a little sir, how

2227
02:36:07.879 --> 02:36:13.559
do you remember that catchy song?
Yeah? All right? Uh. Number

2228
02:36:13.680 --> 02:36:20.319
ten the Disney Channel. Oh it's
gonna be like these Twin Girl shows that

2229
02:36:20.360 --> 02:36:24.600
I didn't watch. Surprisingly not say
that about these shows. We have Dark

2230
02:36:24.639 --> 02:36:33.120
Wing Duck, Goof Troop, and
Tailspin. Oh okay, well, certain

2231
02:36:33.120 --> 02:36:35.959
these weren't Disney Channel shows. These
were made for syndication. But I get

2232
02:36:37.040 --> 02:36:41.399
it. That's fine. This is
part of the Disney Afternoon. Okay,

2233
02:36:41.600 --> 02:36:45.239
interesting, Dark Wing Duck, Tailspin, and goof Troop. I'm gonna go

2234
02:36:45.280 --> 02:36:50.239
with Tailspin. Bet Tailspin might be
last, it might be. I don't

2235
02:36:50.280 --> 02:36:54.360
know anything about this. Yeah,
Like these shows are all had relatively similar

2236
02:36:54.520 --> 02:37:01.719
season orders. I imagine. I
think dar Queen Duck was popular. A

2237
02:37:01.799 --> 02:37:05.680
goof Troop is easy. I beg
go Troop. I'm gonna say, Goose

2238
02:37:05.760 --> 02:37:09.479
Troop. You're both wrong. It
was Dark Wing Duck. Yeah, dang

2239
02:37:09.559 --> 02:37:11.559
it, Dark Wing Duck with ninety
one Goose troops, seventy eight Tailspin.

2240
02:37:11.920 --> 02:37:16.680
Wow, much less than I remembered
was sixty five. You see tails we

2241
02:37:16.840 --> 02:37:18.040
got started earlier, I think.
But then, Yeah, I just assumed

2242
02:37:18.040 --> 02:37:22.040
that they probably were just shown the
same episodes over and over. Tailspin.

2243
02:37:22.479 --> 02:37:24.280
When you're in it, you can
win it in a minute when you spin,

2244
02:37:24.399 --> 02:37:30.600
spin and spin it, so spin
it. Tailspin, tail Spin the

2245
02:37:30.639 --> 02:37:33.840
one with what's what's her name Rebecca
or something? Yeah, yeah, I

2246
02:37:33.959 --> 02:37:37.280
know, you know Rebecca. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know Rebecca.

2247
02:37:37.399 --> 02:37:41.000
But I be Goose Troop had Pete's
wife also, right, yeah,

2248
02:37:41.520 --> 02:37:46.000
yeah, oh yeah, okay,
all right, now Darkwing Duck was missing

2249
02:37:46.159 --> 02:37:50.000
of some kind of you know,
mommy dommy. Oh yeah, that's its

2250
02:37:50.040 --> 02:37:52.959
big failing and that's what we're all
missing really, all right, two more

2251
02:37:54.040 --> 02:38:01.159
boys, two more adults swim.
We have Assie McGhee Moral Oral and Xavier

2252
02:38:01.520 --> 02:38:07.159
Renegade Angel Moral Oral. I remember
that day Moral Oral. They had more

2253
02:38:07.200 --> 02:38:09.559
seasons. You would think I gotta
go with that too, even though it's

2254
02:38:09.559 --> 02:38:15.120
not gonna help me. Well,
you both win points for that Moral Oral

2255
02:38:15.200 --> 02:38:20.399
with forty three. Asa McGee and
Renegade Angel both had twenty. Moral orl

2256
02:38:20.520 --> 02:38:24.520
was pretty good. Actually no,
I was Claimation, So that's why I

2257
02:38:24.600 --> 02:38:26.840
avoided it. Yeah, it's like
it was one of those like fake after

2258
02:38:26.920 --> 02:38:31.479
school special kind of things, and
it would actually be terrifying. Now this

2259
02:38:31.559 --> 02:38:35.920
one isn't specifically tied to a network, but I guess a concept of Sunday

2260
02:38:35.000 --> 02:38:43.040
comics. So you have Baby Blues, Dilbert and For Better or for Worse

2261
02:38:46.440 --> 02:38:48.639
I don't know what the other two
are, so I'm gonna go with one

2262
02:38:48.719 --> 02:38:54.239
of those. I'll just guess for
Better or for Worse? No Baby Blues,

2263
02:38:56.959 --> 02:38:58.920
man, I remember, I only
remember that Dilbert show. I remember,

2264
02:39:00.000 --> 02:39:01.440
I actually kind of liked it,
but it did not last long.

2265
02:39:01.799 --> 02:39:09.000
No, for Better or for Worse, I'm gonna say for family feud is

2266
02:39:09.079 --> 02:39:13.200
not working right now. I guess
I'm gonna go Baby Blue. Gilbert was

2267
02:39:13.280 --> 02:39:16.639
not on for long, but maybe
these other ones were on for less.

2268
02:39:16.680 --> 02:39:20.000
I at least remember the Dilbert Show. It was like eight episodes, though

2269
02:39:20.000 --> 02:39:24.799
it was just so little. I'll
go with what Baby Blue was. The

2270
02:39:24.879 --> 02:39:28.520
other one, Baby Blues, and
for Better or for Worse? Uh?

2271
02:39:28.760 --> 02:39:31.040
Well, Mike, I think you
would have won anyway, no matter,

2272
02:39:31.399 --> 02:39:37.399
no matter how this shook out.
But you were both wrong because dilb Gilbert.

2273
02:39:37.600 --> 02:39:41.799
No, of course, it was
thirty episodes. Thirty episodes, man,

2274
02:39:41.000 --> 02:39:45.239
more than I remember. Baby Blues
had twenty six. For Better for

2275
02:39:45.399 --> 02:39:50.239
Worse had sixteen. Man, it's
a bunch of bullshit, but it had

2276
02:39:50.440 --> 02:39:56.760
seven made for TV specials. Okay, all right, I hope you remembered

2277
02:39:56.799 --> 02:39:58.920
some shows Matt and Colorado. Matt, thank you so much for that love

2278
02:40:01.040 --> 02:40:05.959
and very involved quiz Quickly. We're
gonna speed through shout outs, because I

2279
02:40:05.040 --> 02:40:09.840
think my throat is dying. No
one think anything, soussio, any meet

2280
02:40:09.879 --> 02:40:11.920
it to it, buddy. Oh
it's okay, Mike, it's okay.

2281
02:40:13.000 --> 02:40:16.680
We'll get there. I will call
upon your powers when when I truly need

2282
02:40:16.760 --> 02:40:24.719
them, when when I away everybody
gets it once. Uh Special shouts out

2283
02:40:24.799 --> 02:40:28.440
to love you, Cheyenne, love
you, Lily, love you, Jace,

2284
02:40:28.799 --> 02:40:31.639
hey Nose, Spooky fuck you,
to fuck you, to you,

2285
02:40:31.120 --> 02:40:39.120
Eggplant. Grandma Pai is in Minati's
search history. That's funny. Beware of

2286
02:40:39.319 --> 02:40:43.239
Army of Darkness, the Jandy Man, the grubbin Head, Richel Myers,

2287
02:40:43.639 --> 02:40:48.959
the Tomorrow one thousand, Jeff of
the Back Lagoon, Micula, Lucy Face,

2288
02:40:50.000 --> 02:40:54.120
and the horrifying and deadliest of them
all. Bailey shouts out to me.

2289
02:40:54.239 --> 02:40:56.840
Two years and two hundred pounds later, I finally hit my weight goal

2290
02:40:56.920 --> 02:41:03.799
today. Gained or lost, I'm
not saying, uh. Starfish spider emoji

2291
02:41:03.120 --> 02:41:09.399
shriek out to thick thigh saving lives. It's a very small far. That's

2292
02:41:09.520 --> 02:41:15.200
not a star face shriek out the
thick thigh saving lives, especially in lifeguards

2293
02:41:15.280 --> 02:41:20.159
and mountain plane crash, cannibal situations, Train train Travelog, Train Travelog Travelog

2294
02:41:20.239 --> 02:41:28.719
Pocket Eventually y'all Gasolina by Daddy Yankee
Cosmo from Chainsaw Man Halloween Uh sad face

2295
02:41:28.799 --> 02:41:33.840
emoji, egg plant emoji, chicken
emoji, eggplant in pain emoji, and

2296
02:41:33.959 --> 02:41:39.520
poop emoji. Happy Halloween. Gosha
Douco Gang Giant Skeletons stand forever. It's

2297
02:41:39.559 --> 02:41:41.239
not a like, it's an ocean, shouts out to the backlar X Manati

2298
02:41:41.319 --> 02:41:48.000
yahwe anthology. I'm working on right. I like it. I don't know

2299
02:41:48.120 --> 02:41:54.239
he's gonna. I like fun fear
into the hearts. And while it's in

2300
02:41:54.280 --> 02:41:58.920
the bourgeoisie, there's just nothing but
like occasional. Like at that show,

2301
02:42:00.040 --> 02:42:05.879
it stainly gets faster and faster.
We are all just brains piloting bone mix

2302
02:42:05.000 --> 02:42:09.280
with meat armor. Hey now you're
an all star. Whoops, thought I

2303
02:42:09.760 --> 02:42:13.319
thought that, said Shriek. Shrekouts
Giant Bomb's extra life coming soon to a

2304
02:42:13.399 --> 02:42:18.879
stream near you, shouts out to
Conduit aka Rowena Valentina Kofy Divina. Apex

2305
02:42:18.959 --> 02:42:22.680
Legends is first Filipino Legends which will
be playable in a couple of hours.

2306
02:42:22.719 --> 02:42:26.520
I think it's pretty cute. Her
first animated trailer showcases her siblings and cousins

2307
02:42:26.559 --> 02:42:30.159
costplaying his other Apex Legends characters,
while she coincidentally is costplaying as herself.

2308
02:42:30.559 --> 02:42:33.000
Oh that's sick. Can you costplay
as yourself? Is that just you being

2309
02:42:33.079 --> 02:42:39.040
yourself? You just get dressed.
It's just dressing variables. They seem intense.

2310
02:42:39.840 --> 02:42:46.079
Uh pourus semi up to the cribby
flicky, lucky, locky on me,

2311
02:42:46.200 --> 02:42:48.319
blicky, take a flicky, make
a movie with me. Uh,

2312
02:42:48.760 --> 02:42:54.000
take a flicky, make it real
drippy. Uh Grub doesn't even need to

2313
02:42:54.040 --> 02:42:56.600
dress up for Halloween since he's a
clown all year round. Very true.

2314
02:42:58.000 --> 02:43:03.440
Drive slow head on, swivel chop
ski hounk in former blame a licky boom

2315
02:43:03.440 --> 02:43:07.959
boom down, folks, shouts out, it's supposed to be fun. Shouts

2316
02:43:07.000 --> 02:43:09.559
out, why? Why? Why
are we taking jabs at each other?

2317
02:43:09.639 --> 02:43:15.799
What a lucky boom boom down?
Who's at a job? What is that

2318
02:43:16.799 --> 02:43:20.079
anyway? Folks? What do we
got going on for the rest of the

2319
02:43:20.079 --> 02:43:24.360
week? Games, mornings popping off
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, blake club

2320
02:43:24.440 --> 02:43:30.239
tomorrow? H what are we calling
it? Ride to grub Jeff Tribution.

2321
02:43:30.639 --> 02:43:35.719
Ride to grub Jeft Jeff Tribution is
what we settled on. I think it's

2322
02:43:35.799 --> 02:43:37.920
great. It's great. We're really
good at naming stuff. We're the best.

2323
02:43:39.200 --> 02:43:46.559
We're the best. Voicemail dump popping
off on Thursday. Gosh, let

2324
02:43:46.600 --> 02:43:48.239
me. I wasn't at the meeting, so I actually don't know what's going

2325
02:43:48.239 --> 02:43:52.840
on this week. H For Friday, we might do a bit of a

2326
02:43:52.920 --> 02:43:56.879
grab bag, but warrior Ware will
be involved in some way. I think

2327
02:43:56.040 --> 02:44:01.440
we'll do some Warrio where maybe Boom
might make time some of that jack box

2328
02:44:01.520 --> 02:44:03.120
and stuff. We'll see. There
will be some fun stuff happening, and

2329
02:44:03.159 --> 02:44:05.559
if it's Warriorware, I want to
play it and make a fool of myself

2330
02:44:05.559 --> 02:44:09.760
because it's the most control games.
That'd be fine, it says later today

2331
02:44:09.280 --> 02:44:13.959
GV plays Ellen Wake two. Yeah, we'll see. I want to,

2332
02:44:15.079 --> 02:44:16.200
but I'm just realizing that I gotta
get a bunch of stuff at Center for

2333
02:44:16.239 --> 02:44:20.840
Halloween as well, So we'll see
if we can still make that happen.

2334
02:44:20.000 --> 02:44:24.440
Maybe we could do that tomorrow.
Yeah, maybe will shift that around to

2335
02:44:24.479 --> 02:44:26.159
tomorrow. I want to do with
that. To do that this week,

2336
02:44:26.159 --> 02:44:28.280
though, I would like to play
some of that on this site. I

2337
02:44:28.360 --> 02:44:33.360
would love to watch that. We
also have the conclusion of this season of

2338
02:44:33.440 --> 02:44:37.479
Friday Night Forking, Get your Forks
out, It's the Fork. In July.

2339
02:44:37.000 --> 02:44:43.360
Dan Reikert will be on Friday Night
Forking. Also the premiere episode of

2340
02:44:43.239 --> 02:44:48.000
Giant BombCast Revengeance on Friday as well. Should we just settle what we're going

2341
02:44:48.040 --> 02:44:50.920
to talk about the Switch? Yeah? Yeah, I think we're gonna talk

2342
02:44:50.959 --> 02:44:54.760
about is the Switch the best?
The best video game console ever made?

2343
02:44:54.239 --> 02:44:58.159
Well? I won't be there,
but my answer is yes, okay,

2344
02:44:58.360 --> 02:45:01.120
fantastic. Well, we'll put that
back to that in you can leave some

2345
02:45:01.200 --> 02:45:03.879
notes for us and we'll just read
them verbatim. I'm gonna put that in

2346
02:45:03.959 --> 02:45:07.319
an envelope and we'll see. Maybe
I'll call in from my phone on the

2347
02:45:07.399 --> 02:45:11.399
boat and scream about Smash Brothers or
something. We'll talk about, well,

2348
02:45:11.399 --> 02:45:13.399
talk about Warrior were on there as
well, and stuff like that, because

2349
02:45:13.440 --> 02:45:16.079
we'll have played it by then.
So yeah, the whole whole idea is

2350
02:45:16.120 --> 02:45:20.040
going to work out just like we
were hoping. I'm hoping to have beat

2351
02:45:20.280 --> 02:45:22.319
alan Wick two by then and uh
perfect, you know, well, maybe

2352
02:45:22.520 --> 02:45:26.440
there will be time to talk about
that there as well. I love and

2353
02:45:26.520 --> 02:45:31.600
appreciate you. I've been Jan,
he's been Jeff, he's been Mike,

2354
02:45:31.840 --> 02:45:35.079
and Bacalar was Bacalar. We'll see
you next week for another episode of the

2355
02:45:35.200 --> 02:45:46.520
Giant BombCast. Until then, consensual
kisses on the cheek oh my, except

2356
02:45:46.600 --> 02:46:05.280
to you. Giant BombCast is now
over. See you later,

