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Actually, no, no, I'm guy. Good episode this one.
This was a very fun episode. It was very much in the same sort
of categories like the parking garage and the Chinese restaurant, where it's just sort
of one scene or one location for the Madrid of the episode, not many
characters involved in them. Yeah. I just thought this one was just so
simple but so funny. And it really sums up Larry Charles as a writer
as well, because he says in the Inside Look, which is like a
little behind the scenes little clips on the on the DVDs, that they had
the idea that George and Jerry lead the airport right peach off from the airport,
where can we go from here? And Larry's like, what if the
limo was like a neo Nazi limo? I was like, Okay, who
comes up with that? You know what I mean? Like that kind of
idea that comes to his mind. That just sums up Larry Charles very much.
So, Yeah, it's certain people have certain brains that have a certain
chemistry to them. And yeah, I don't know if I've sort of told
this anecdote in the past, but it's one of my favorites about Saturday Night
and about the early days of it and dan Ackroyd, and the line was,
no one could be jealous of dan Ackroyd because no one could imagine coming
up with the ship that he came up with. It's not like, oh,
he's doing a do any better. It's like this guy's doing stuff that
no one else could even sort of fathom. So yeah, I mean,
yeah, that reminds me of this and that terms like how do you get
from yeah, this point eight to that point the You know, you've got
to have a certain type of way of thinking to ye to be able to
travel in that direction. And but God bless him for doing so, because
yeah, this is a really good example of I don't know, I guess
a comedy trope or approach that I really did, which is like a quote
unquote good idea that goes bad. It goes really south, really quickly,
and it's just played so well by all concerned. What's so great about this
plan failing is that, you know, George is known for coming up with
plans to get our situations, But who in their right mine could ever think
that that plan that he come up with was going to escalate to this?
But I love how confident he is yeah, Yeah, he's so confident that
it's easy to sort of get swept along with it. You know, it
does feel like all the parts are falling into place. When that you know,
Jerry first gets off the plane and he gives them that information, it's
like, well, yeah, no, Brian's not getting in that limo because
Brian's in Chicago. He's definitely in Chicago. From there, you go,
oh yeah, why not come on, that's the thing. But the idea
of getting into the limo, it's like, it's, you know, it's
a bit cheeky, but we don't. We don't try it. Yeah,
And I think they're thinking, and they probably do. What's the worst that
could happen to you? That's my mone for life. What's the what?
When I say, for example, people say, how do you get someone
so I was a guest on your show? I'm like, well, I
just ask them. The worst I can say is just no or just not
reply. Who cares I least ask them? I mean, I doubt there
are very few jerks out there who would say, do you approach me to
be on your podcast? Not only am I going to say no, I'm
going to tell all my famous friends to say, no, I wish I
nest now, but fortunately that has not been the No not yet. No,
no, not at all. But as you're saying, this episode was
just so unique. It felt very siful, but it also felt very unique
as well. I didn't it I like to have the balls to have an
episode based around Nazis. Oh yeah, I mean, particularly in the early
nineties. I mean I think that casting my mind back to that era,
I think and I've said this about you know, the Simpsons and other shows
as well of this era, I think there was a certainly in the nineties,
there was a frame of mine where it's like, guys, we've solved
all the problems. It's cool. The walls down, We're fine. Yeah,
that's essentially where it started. You're right. It's like, we knocked
down the Berlin Wall. Yay for capitalism. I think we're you know,
we're pretty much put the kibosh on communism, and now they're going to come
around. In our way of thinking, it felt like, guys, we've
got it, sasket. You know, twenty first century is just going to
be so good. And of course, so you know, it's sort of
making fun of things like Nazi Is, like, well, you know,
we beat these guys. Of course, there are a few dickheads who are
you know, are going to be rabble rousing and all that kind of thing.
Meanwhile, yeah, that there is that sort of seedy underbelly that's you
know, sort of gathering strength and gathering speed and gathering support. But no
one took it seriously. It's like it's just a handful of dickheads. Who
cares. I wonder I wonder if Jason found it uncomfortable to read those lines
out in front of Jerry. I mean, obviously I wouldn't found uncomfortable,
but it would have been weird because Jerry's obviously Jewish. That for Jewish,
for Jerry to be in this episode like that, I wonder if he was
the one sort when Larry said it can be a near Nazi. I wonder
if Jerry's first thoughts were I know, or whether he would just went,
fuck this, this is going to be great, let's do it. I
think there's there's that time thing where it's like, I think enough time has
passed since since World War Two on the Holocaust. It's like not that you
can make fun of it, but you can. Yeah, yeah, well
that's the other part of it. I mean, first of all, you
can acknowledge it without it stinging that much enough time has gone by. I
mean, you can be of course respectful and acknowledge it and all that,
but at the same time not mention. You know, you can mention it
without people going and then technically, yeah, they're they're poking fun at at
Neo nazis here. I mean, no one's coming out of this thinking wow,
this this O'Brien character seems to have you know, a few good ideas.
I mean, just just by virtue of him reading the speech, that's
that's the speech reading. I was just like, oh my, I love
Jerry's You're sure you want to think? You want to open with that?
Very funny. So what do you think of of Ava and Tim? Well,
yeah, I mean it's um one of the great things about watching shows
from this era, and sine Felt's a great one for this because so many
people pop up, you know that later becomes starts. I think it is
the one of the nineties. Really, it certainly is. Yeah. Yeah,
but you know, seeing that the Tim is Peter Kraus from Six Feet
Under and various other things like the Truman Show, which we covered on the
movie Guys, Yes and aver E or AV. I think it might be
a well he says av. Yeah, yeah, it's about being Somebody pronounces
it as aver yeah yeah yeah. Is Um played by an actress named Suzanne
Snyder, who eighties kids like me will remember as one of the chicks from
Weird Science. Yes, you know, Weird Science a film. I've never
seen it completely, I've never seen bits and pieces of it. Not sure
how well it's aged. Okay, I feel like we've right up my ally
because I was I was right into like those eighties geek films. But put
the way they treat the ladies in that film aside, I'm sure I would
enjoy it. Here's the thing. I mean, it's been a long time
since I watched it. Yeah, but the best of my recollection not that
it's a feminist message, but essentially the core message of it, like is
these guys are essentially objectifying women to begin with, and they learned that,
hey, women are people too. It's it's it's a message you shouldn't really
have to learn, but it's good in an era where people were still learning
that unfortunately very much. But it goes about that in a way. That's
a little guys, really, but there's so much to enjoy it, you
know, mainly because it's got my boy Anthony Michael Hall at sort of like
Primo, I really do. He's in Primo Geek era. He pulls off
some comedic stuff and this is just like, oh my god, you're just
a master. But it's also got early stuff by Bill Paxton just giving a
fantastic performance as the other guys shitty Brother. It's so so good in that
regard. But yeah, Wed Size, Oh that's right, because Susann Snyder
is in Weird Size, and also in this episode, as ever, we
brought full circle Downdo. We know what we're doing here at full figured Discount
Enterprises. She's not just in Weird Science. By the way, she's also
Jerry's girlfriend. In the future episode The Pie, she's Poppy's daughter. Oh
my gosh, yes, you go. It's Cipher doesn't quite a bit where
they get people who have already played somebody to come back and play somebody else
and it's not seen as wrong. It's just like, well, yeah,
she played in this, she was this, and she was in this.
It's like, OK, good, good to have around. We know they
can do the job bring him back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. An
interesting little tidbit. Jason Alexander was saying in the Inside Look that when they
were making the show, particularly when the year of this episode, he was
really close with Michael Richards, really close with with Julia obviously because they've been
doing stuff off television and things like that together and not together in the past,
but been in the same industry together for a few years. But Jerry
hadn't been so much. He'd been a stand up. He said that Jerry
didn't really hang out with the crew that much because he was too busy being
a producer or being a writer or you know that kind of thing. So
they said that Jason was saying he'd loved doing the one on one scenes with
Jerry because he didn't really get that much chance to hang out with him just
one on one all that often at the time. And he feels that his
best material was when it was just him and Jerry just alone, bantering back
and forth. And I tend to agree, but he was saying he particularly
loves this episode because it was mostly just he and Jerry just getting to just
go back and forth to each other. It's interesting they say that because yeah,
I mean, they do bounce off each other so well, and you
know, given that they do have these sort of divergent backgrounds, I mean,
stand up comedians of course have their own community and their own sense of
I don't know, I guess teamwork or anything like that. But you know,
Jason, Alexander and Julia and Michael are you know, primarily either sketch
comedians who work in a troop or with a with a cast. All their
legit actors who work you know, with a cast. So to be having
those different coming from different backgrounds and that, but jelling so well and finding
that really good rhythm together over time, it's it's really interesting, and you
know, it's great to see it develop over the course of the Sees series
as well. Yeah, they're a good committee duo, really, you got
because Jerry's almost just the straight man to George's wackiness. But the thing is,
Jerry sets up George's one liners or George's ridiculousness when he says something.
But then Jerry's great coming back with the quips to sort of put a final
note on the scene. How often do you have those scenes where it's Jerry
saying, what do you mean? Then Jerry said something, George is something
absurd, and Jerry just comes back with the one liner and then that's the
end of the scene. They're a great team when it comes to those kinds.
It's a great dynamic between the two of them. You're right, Yeah,
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my favorites. What were your favorite moments from the episode, mister Davis?
M What did I enjoy? Like? I said, I just like that
whole hatching of the plant at the airport, the excitement building. Yeah,
and we can do this. We can do it, George, thing here,
I can pull this off. And you know, you say, there's
the best thing I've ever done in my life is on that and you would
kind of feel that, you know, just getting one over on the man,
especially a limo. It's like bloody rides in a limo. Come on
by saying how George has this absolute shit box of a car that he needs
to be getting repaired for years, and Jerry's always time, you know,
you've got to get this car replacement. I can't afford it or whatever.
So he just had his big moment where George's life is feels like it's getting
even worse, his cars to ship itself, and all of a sudden,
now he's in a limo. Yeah. I mean, but I love his
way of thinking when he says, you know, if he knew him,
he wouldn't have a sign. It's like everything's falling into place. Yeah,
yeah, I think of that that when he said, I was like,
of course, of course. Um Like I'm normally not the hugest fan of
the stand up bits in between the stories. I mean, they're good getting
better off. I feel like they're more intertwining with the stories at the moment.
Yeah. Well, I mean that's why I like the one that he
has in the middle where he's it's Jerry's take on the limo is basically the
Bachelor pad, you know, because that's right. I haven't ridden in many
limos, if any. I mean I've written in the old town car or
something like that, but not really like a stretch or anything like that.
Not until not less people are more patrons jump on board. That is correct.
The show guys, you enjoy the show supports eventually get a limo,
Dan and I'll just get a limo once a week and right around Geelong,
just just a casual highlight the window, just waving of people who with these
assholes. Yeah, but there's something about limos that strikes me as just a
tiny bit tacky. Maybe I'm saying that from having not written any well,
but you know, it is a bit like, hey, it's a car
with a bar in it. You know. I always saw these as cars.
It wasn't in the bottle when I was a kid. I used to
watch a home alone too. Whatever, And Kevin's in the car, right.
I always saw limos as really cool because he didn't have to wear a
seat belt. I'm like, no seat belts cool. But to his day
on the whole, you know, I'm counting there's a there's got to be
at least ten thousand houses on this seat already. It didn't dribe me as
a very Seinfeld going away. I'm looking at things, um just I just
got a huge laugh out of this exchange with she's a Nazi, George a
Nazi, kind of a cute Nazi. Yeah, the fact that I were
able to get George to sort of consider dating a Nazi with a Jewish person
on screen and still somehow make it funny. And I've got a big kick
out of Julia lewis Drivers's Gramemp personation when he's mocking his theory. Maybe he's
in on it like Cramer, Like Michael Wisch plays that perfectly because the Cramer
is like, you're right. It could be like he doesn't realize he's been
having the Pisteak and Adam Man so fun It's one of my favorite moments.
It's just Cramer. He's the way his mind works. He's O'Brien, think
about it, Elane, It's been there in front of our eyes. He's
too, he's too neat. I love that he's too. He's not a
Natz, he's just neat. Yeah, but one of the best things.
And it's a nice sort of I want to say the dig at Larry David
but it's kind of a nice little tiny sledge, like you know, Crame
is talking about George and he said, there's no real person connect the way
he does. Yeah, because in the writer's room that we've had a big
laugh of that one. Don't you anything? Oh absolutely they would. Yeah.
So that's stuff that I've really got to kick out. And this episode
and how about it you we've pretty much covered all of mine. Just yeh,
the crame of it and then yeah, at the start I thought was
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kick off now with some trivia. My first question for you, mister Davis,
is how much would each child if fifty people were in a limo,
how much would have to pay the rental limo? Fifty prom kids? It
would cost them one dollar and seventy five cents a piece. Correct, Let's
let's look at the inflation of that. Actually, one dollar seventy five US
one point USD. So now we'll cost them three dollars seventy and twenty twenty
three. So each child we have to pay three dollars seventy US. That's
not that bad A marker about five bucks. Yeah, that's pretty good if
you can fit fifty kids in the back of a limo. I don't think
that. Come to your ride question, Dando. If I wanted to find
the clock at the airport, where would I look? Is it near the
escalator? It is by the escalators by the escalator. I had my notes
by the way that that guy looked like either Oscar the Grouch or Sam the
Eagle from the Muppets, Sam the Eagle. I'm leaving water Wars, but
a compos of the two. You're correct, right over there, that guy.
It's one of the great things that Sidfeld does occasionally is just give a
you know, a very bit player a bit to work with or they're very
genius and casting people who can make something out of nothing, I mean interesting
faces. Yeah, the right over there guy I thought was really good and
it led into a line that's been used a lot. But we'll talk about
that when we talk about the episode. All right. My next question is
what type of gun does Aver grab? Oh? It's a nice Luga mt
the epistol of choice of nazis apparently, is it really? I did not
know that. Okay, who what is the name of the news reporter reporting
on the story? Ah? I had that in my notes. It's Jody
someone looking in Jody w take notes. Yeah, ok the Hound of the
Water Jody Baskerville. You go, all right? And my final question is
Jody Baskerville is doing her a report from where she's outside the paramount? Isn't
she paramouts? Yes? Yeah, let's see. Do I have a question
for you? I do have one more if you'd like it. Hit me.
Okay, how fast is the limo going when George suggests they just jump
and roll? It's sixty miles an hour. Sixty miles an hour, which
is a bit more than a hundred k an hour. All right, who
are you Mannix? It's showing so I felt showing its age when it says
yeah, that's in that scene though, what's graz We was saying earlier,
how George's good coming up with plans, and this was a great plan,
but when things start going right, he starts coming up with really shit planning.
Well, that's the thing. Hollywood has just corrupted us by thinking,
yeah, we could jump out of a moving caribefar, You jump and roll,
you know, you know the momentum, You keep the momentum and eventually
slowly it'd be fine. It's like, oh, no, you're gonna hit
one hundred kilometers and our sorry not darmac, but you know, bitumen at
kolomas an hour not going to be good for you. It's like you throw
something in the window as a kid, you're expecting to sort of gat the
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you find your podcast. The original air day of the Limo was February twenty
sixth, nineteen ninety two. It says here, so it wasn't just written
by Larry Charles, so he wrote the episode, but the tower play by
Larry Charles and the story by Mark Jaffee as well, saying he's want to
come up with the idea of being in the limo, I'm assuming, and
then Larry is like, how about Lena Nazi limo? And then together they
created this glorious episode. And it was directed by Tom Sharons, who says
that they filmed the scene speaking of the Paramount, they went to Paramount Studios
to film the Apparently they got a really good New York street and that's where
they filmed the mob running across the road to get him at the limo.
Like the whole framer and a Laine bit was filmed at Paramount on the corner
there. He was saying that. Now. Tom says in the in the
Inside look that it just started raining about five minutes after be wrapped up.
But if you watched that scene, there's water all over the ground, so
I'm pretty sure Ed had rained prior to that. I like that they give
it a bit of New York authenticity by just piles of rubbish on the streets.
I think that's before New York got sort of gentrified in the mid to
late nineties. You know, we're still thinking about Oh New York, it's
a it's kind of grubby place, a little dangerous. Yeah, little Muppets
popping out of the bins and stuff. Oh yeah, those Muppets taking Manhattan,
and good one knows what that's gonna happen. The Forgotten Muppet film.
By the way, I'm a huge Muppet fan, and Aliott's now right into
the Muppets. He started watching mupp Babies and now he's you know, he's
he's progressed to the Muppet Show. And the Muppet movies are all different ones.
But the Muppets Take Manhattan isn't on UM, isn't on Disney. Plus
neither is the one Muppets from Space. I think they're Sony. I believe
State Manhatan might be a different one. Love upetstap Manhattan. There's also another
one, the Muppets go to Disney World, which is like a straight to
TV kind of like movie and an hour, and that one it might be
on YouTube. I haven't actually looked, but I still love that one.
As a kid, my name taped and my name Marline, she taped it
forms. I love that one as a kid. You think that one would
be on Disney Plus, you'd think so yeah, so stars Stars. I'm
sorry I forget his name. Apologies, so everyone listening includes this up Davis
from The Great Muppet Paper and Beethoven the Father. What's his name child?
That's Shells growing Charles. Yes, he plays the head of the security at
Disney. They're trying to capture the Muppets in that that Disney World one.
It's it's it's a really fun move for kids. I'm surprised it's someone Disney
puts. Hopefully they release assumed. Anyway, enough about the Uppets, we're
here to talk about the limo and it kicks off with some stand up as
you were saying, which is really good. I agree. The prices at
airport's ridiculous, but it's like they've got a Lauren to themselves. They can
just make whatever prices up they want. It's like international waters. Yeah,
they're just the law. The laws don't apply there. Yeah, so you
went not paying like nine bucks for tuna sandwich or something like that, just
the insane markup. You know, you get to the airport earlier, you
think, oh man, I think I could really use a cafe large just
to put me up a bit. Excuse me eleven bucks? Yeah, I
remember I went to this place at the Melbourne Airport. It was like a
pub kind of deal. That's what like a bowl of chips, and it
was like, you know, fifteen dollars was a small bowl of chips.
How can you charge fifteen bucks? And he was like, well where else
you're going to get him? Like touche so cuche well played. Yeah,
when the lovel Louis and family and I went to Balley recently, you know,
we were having a slight bit of breakfast, you know, one of
the places in the airport before we before we took off chunking a bit of
large Yes, So I was like, I'll pick this one up begin you
know. So I'm getting breakfast of three kids, Louise and myself, big
mistadium. Thank god, thank god, we're going to Barley where everything else
is cheap. Yes. The episode kicks off of George looking for departures at
the airport. Now that I've been to the airport enough times, I know
where it is. I sort of going straight there. But the first couple
of times I always forgetting which platform it's time. I'm just like where am
I The first one I went to England, first time I ever gotten a
plane, was going to England to meet nicholas family. Nikola even know I
was coming that day, so I couldn't like asking for advice or anything.
My mum had never been really been on a plane either. I was so
scared. I didn't know what I was looking for. But like just George
and this moment was just like me. I'm like, where do I go
departures? What screen? When I put my bags? What do I do?
I remember just walk up with someone saying it's my first time flying.
They're like, come here, we'll help you. Well, oh yeah,
yeah, because I think there are proscetidures in place, it would be very
very difficult for you get on the wrong plane. Yeah yeah, yeah.
I wasn't like scared. I was just scared of missing it. I remember
they're like, no, I've got this so early. I was like,
I am not going to miss this plane. And I have to sit there
for like two hours at the gate waiting, but I'm like, I would
rather be here waiting. At the same time, you probably go work up
to get on the plane. As we get the guy here was discussing looks
at the end, look at his watch, and I was like, yeah,
this is Sam the Eagle. Literally, even his voices, it was
very much Sam the Eagle. And as a kid, I hated Sam the
Eagle. I thought it was just mean all the time. I watch it
now and I'm like, I get him, I understand him now. He's
hatred of people. I get it. It's a bit like Morbow. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, so yeah, but we get living in a society
line. You wanted to discuss this, No, not really discussed it,
but yeah, I mean it's something that gets used a lot. I think
it was. It was a joker recently that we're working Fancass on the talk
show. At the end he's he's talking about we're living in a society and
all that kind of stuff, and I think it gave George's you know,
we're living in a society a kind of a second life. It got memified
a fair bit. I think anytime anyone on social media says something you know,
vague, lound to one or whatever it was like, or you know,
make some ridiculous statement, you'll have someone popping him saying, you know,
we're living in a society, I didn't realize it was from this episode,
but the first time in the Chinese restaurant. Oh okay, oh when
the when the person went get off the phone. I love it. It's
one of George's. It's one of George's tenants, like he was something that
he lives by. Why is life so un fair? We're living in a
society. We should all be helping one another. And of course George is
the first person to suck someone over here, and he sucks someone over one
shown he's given him the time, although I suppose it did really had the
time they did he because I suppose he was helped because he didn't have a
time, did he. Well, that's he clearly doesn't have a watch on
R Yeah you actually, I see. I took that first of all when
I was watching it on And then he went and did what the guy was
doing him. But really he was helping him. They didn't have to watch
I will say, though, right, and you know, get your daggers
ready, listeners. I've never been huge on that we're living in a society
line. To me, it just felt it's always felt like them trying to
come up with a catchphrase for George and Seinfeld has a lot of catch phrases
that just sort of people clinged onto naturally and organically, the repeating of the
we're living in a society just to He's like, I don't know, I've
just never found it all that funny, and it just seemed to me like
it was just something they wanted to take on, which I don't know whether
it did. I can't remember. I wasn't old enough. But did it
really catch the right I don't think it really did at the time. Maybe
for a little bit there, but it certainly didn't have the repeat appeal of
something like, you know, yadda YadA YadA, or no soup for you
or whatever. But I don't know, maybe a society has to crumble a
bit more people are keetting into it going you know, I actually do feel
like that we're living in a society. Yes. Jerry then arrives and explains
how his car's broken down so he's got no way of getting home. It
was joey like, for fuck's sake, mate, Yeah, I picked the
wrong guy to pick me up from the airport. I love how flustered George
gets though. It's one of Jason Alexander's great gifts as an actor for him
just to play frustration and you know, just discombobulation, all that kind of
suffing. But Jerry just to hit him with So I haven't got a So
what good are you? Yeah, I'm not used to me. As we
were saying Australia, you're as useful as tits on the ball. I mean,
I think there are times when you and I maybe me more so.
Look at the relationship between Jerry and Jordian. Oh my god, Jerry is
such a meanie. So he's very mean, so cruel to his friend.
This time it's wholly justify it is. So what good? Yeah? I
mean he says in a lighthearted way. Yeah, yeah, he's not saying
it in a in an overriding what good are you to the planet? Kind
of way? And it's like, you know, this is the one job
that you had. I mean, you could have maybe got your car servers
before then, or you knew that your car was a pos. It's like,
the fuck, really, anyway, I'm still your mate that anyway.
So they see the chauffeur for O'Brien and Joey mentions that the flight was delayed,
he stuck in Chicago and George to just say take the Limo letter,
say think about it. He's not showing up. What do you see the
life of kids? It's like forty five minutes long. He said he's in
Chicago. He's definitely in Chicago. Oh, the guy's just standing. How
wouldn't we do it? We just go up and when we say we're O'Brian.
Maybe he knows O'Brian. May doesn't know O'Brian. If he knew O'Brian,
he wouldn't have a sign. Let's just do it. But what if
we get caught? What's gonna happen? They can't kill us. Who's gonna
be your'brian? I'll be your brain? Oh? Am? I you just
me? Okay, you don't want to be you? Well, if you're
gonna be Obrian, why can't I be somebody? I'm like? Who Dylan
Murphy? Okay, now you want to be Dylan Murphy? I like Dylan.
You could be Carlin Colin O'Brien. I'm Dylan Murphy. I am Colin
O'Brien. I'm really doing this. Hey, do you have the time?
Clark over there? Oh, Bran, sir, sorry we're late here.
Let me take that for you. Oh, thank you, I'll get the
corn. I'll we're going around front. Thank you, Dylan. And as
we said earlier, it's just so great. How when George realizes this could
actually work, it's like, oh, another scheme, Oh yeah, one
that you know it's home. The perfect crime. Yeah yeah, and there's
nothing better than you. You're pulling off, You're not stealing anyone's mind.
What's gonna happen. I'll just take her to get out of the car.
The perfect victimless crime. Yeah yeah, you know, yeah, no,
exactly right, you benefit, nobody loses. And then that we're now in
the limo and George is just so excited he has to call his moment.
Of course that just goes to shit. She's happy for you. But it's
pretty much just like it's just I can we haven't seen George's mother yet.
I don't believe we've seen her his mother yet in the show. I don't
think we have. Well, we haven't seen Frankie, we know. But
so because we have seen her, you can now hear her voice yelling back
at him, can't you, But then wondering whether the driver can hear him?
Hey, driver, what do you say? We stop off, pick
up your sister, have a lot of fun back here. That's just like
that just felt like such a real moment. I just felt like, that's
what's like two blokes would come up with I know, I for some reason,
I thought that was going to come back to play later, like he
could actually hear them, but he wasn't saying anything. Yeah. Yeah,
like when he was changing the tire or something, He's like, well,
the tires fixed, I can go pick up my sister now, all right.
But no, I think there was already enough happening in the back of
the limo for it would have just been one egg too much for this particular
pudding. Probably, Yeah, you're right, though it does show off the
sort of these guys are pretty high on themselves, George particularly, They're pretty
high on themselves at the moment. So, yeah, George's feeling very He's
gone from confident to cocky, which of course is just it's the start of
the downfall. It's like the subway. Yeah. I did love though,
Jerry in that moment chuckles and it looks almost like he was just laughing.
You just you couldn't keep it in. He was just the way deliver the
way Jason delivered that was just so funny. But you know he's got four
passes to Madison Square Garden. I think it's for the Chicago as the Knicks
and fuck Man see in Jordan MSG that would have been I can understand their
excitement. We're going to the next game. Michael Jordan. Speaking of Jordan,
I saw that Netflix and now are going to be doing a second documentary
on Jordan. We're going to capitalize on that bad boy and do the one
when he when he's with them with the Wizards. Oh well, I'm going
to take that personally absolutely shame. You see I see things as they are?
And I say, no, yeah, you see things as they are?
Not? And you see things? Do you see things as they are?
What do you see when you see things? Now? The actual phrase
is, you know some people see the world as it is and say why
I see the world as it should be and ask why not? I think
that's it. Yeah, I forgot who actually came up with that. I'm
pretty sure someone's gonna say I think there was JFK. I don't think it
was. It's one of those moments. I think I like this scene here
because we do sometimes as people just you know, we're quite a really famous
catchphrase. We get a slightly wrong. The other person's like, yeah,
I know what you meant doesn't matter. Yeah, I think he meant this.
But you know, I knew what you were going for there. You
didn't quite get the I got. I got the point. Yeah. Jerry
then calls a Lane and Cramer. We calls Elane to tup to tail Cramer
that he's um, they're been a limo. You gonna call me O'Brien.
I haven't gotten the um any time to tell you why, Just O'Brien and
Murphy. So that's right, baby doll. Well he's catching he's picking up
on the cock and as the George's yeah, yeah, putting now, and
the driver says that, um, he knows that to make a little stop
first, Like he knows. He gets off to the um gets off the
exit to go get the other members of his party. They start panicking immediately.
George's like, oh my god, what fucked we're gonna we're gonna jump
out of the car. We're never sure to start of this jee The chicks
are pretends he's asleep. Where they get in the car, it's just like
quick, what do we do? Cover your face? Pretenduously pretending dear asleep
is such a it's a childhood tactic. Yeah, but what could he have
done in that situation? Yeah? But you know the faithful readers of his
newsletter, Ava and Tim, they're excited to meet him finally face to face
or Ava more than our Tim so much. But I want to say,
do you think they're a couple because she comes onto onto George pretty heavily.
I think they're just disciples the O'Brien of the Big Game way way of thinking.
Yeah, the big game, and then George pretends to wake up.
Well, Jerry, it covers all, It covers everything. First, you
haven't seen his face. I've never seen him before. Brian, you go
company. That's great. Landing Cramer now waiting on the corner. She caught
a cap? You've got a cap? How much do you make? I'm
telling you, why is it? That's always an awkward situation, awkward conversation
to have with someone? How much they earn? I ain't give a shit.
I'll happily tell anyone how much I earned. I don't give a fuck.
I'll tell people. Sure, I'm ashamed to do so. I'll do
it. But I know I've always been sort of a fan of that full
disclosure kind of thing, because you know, it helps your bargaining power later
on down the line. It's like, oh, someone's I was making this,
well, I think I'm probably worth that. Yeah, yeah, Elaine,
she doesn't like basketball if she's still going. And then Kramer tries to
do pretending to a Jordan Duncan clashes into the Bins physical comedy in there somewhere,
I guess. Then we get the other stand up about the limo windows
and the fifty prom kids paying a dollar seventy five. I'm like, that
is so right, either someone famous or fifty pump kids. That's just on
the money. Yeah, just a whole bunch of people out the top going
you let's faded exactly were back in the limo and you know, I think
somebody's we're gonna miss the tip off. I think somebody's been tipped off.
It's like something he's not right here, and she's she's memorized the book.
So you've read the Big Game. Yes, I've read it and I've memorized
it. Tell me her impressions. I would love to hear what a young
woman thinks of the big game. Well, this is sort of embarrassing,
but it's changed my life. The way you analyze the game, the way
you identify the major players. Oh, I'd left me breathless. You're a
brilliant, brilliant man. Wowles, It's just a game, remember that,
kids, just a game. He's so humble. Don't forget what you wrote
on the epilogue. Fate of the world depends on the outcome of this game.
Well, I was exaggerating a bit, just for effect. He tends
to exaggerate. It's serious, but we are really looking forward to your speech
to norm my speech. Yes, your secretary backs me to copy. Would
you like to look it over? Oh you might as well look it over
the closing or just head. It's like, what have I got myself into?
What is happening? A speech? But I love Jerry just taking advantage
of the situation to poke fund at Georgie against like, well you might as
well look at home. Yeah yeah, Jerry. Yeah, he's just removed
enough from the situation from any sort of blowback that might happen. Then he
can sort of lean back, fold his arms along. Game. You might
as well, doesn't know there's guns at this point, no landing Kramer.
Once again, Kramer thinks that he's trying to work at what's coming on.
It's very strange at the end of the limo, like they didn't tell you
why, and the Jews still money through the Zionist occupied government and use the
black man to bring drugs until our oppressed white minority communities. You're not going
to open with that, aren't you. Look what a line? Oh man?
I get the feeling that you know the people in the Seinfeld Rider's room,
and I'm Jerry, they're probably brave enough and smart enough to sort,
Okay, how far can we push? Yeah, if we're gonna do this,
we're gonna do this properly. Yeah yeah, I mean, you don't
want to sugarcoat the fact that these people have a genuinely offensive worldview, But
how can we also make it fun? Because you just want to make it
make it away now, these guys near Nazis like, oh shit. As
an audience, when you're watching it, you're like, oh, I get
it now, I see where this is going. I don't think. Yeah,
I think if they soft pedaled it a bit too much, you wouldn't
remember it as much as you do. I just love that you're saying the
myth of the Holocaust and if people in the creating here and go, oh
my, this is not going good. Flat tire, they're shooting. They're
shooting. George is just patting. You think someone's firing at them, but
no, it's a flat tire, and an ava lands on George. I'm
willing to die for you, I do anything. George is like, oh,
well, oh, this is gonna go one of two ways. And
then they show off their guns and they're bit taken aback by this, which
you will be. Then we get the news report and she says how it's
the first public appearance of Donald O'Brien, the leader of the Midwestern Regional chapter
of the Aryan Union and reputed to be the most charismatic spokesman of the of
them all. I love they talk about They mentioned that even David Duke,
who was the head of the public face of the Ku Klux Klan at this
stage of the proceedings, even David Duke said, this guy's a bit extreme.
He's a violent extremist. It's like, oh shit, shit's about to
go down. Okay, Yeah, Alan and Kramer now like Cramer still confused,
and this is where Dan arrives. I love the handshake that Kramer gives
Dan. Yeah, I'm yeah, buddy, I've just met you. But
come here pal. What does he try to do? Not do the give
handshake? But he's you know, normal handshake then the one where you're grabbing
each other's thumbs or something like that, or or a mo mistaken. I
think he's just like he grabs onto the hand with two hands. He's like,
hey you go, oh okay, Yeah, that's where they like you
do when you're drunk and your meet some Hey man, are you doing Yeah
exactly. Yeah, they're going to Dan's going to protest. This is what
explains to why Brian is in Cramer clicks. So George and Jerry are waiting
for the tire to be changed. Do you see the way she was looking
at them? She's a Nazi, George a Nazi. Kind of acute thoughts,
Well, we're gonna make a plan before they come back. What are
we gonna do? Let's just make a run for it. Can't run.
I have a bad hamstring. I thought I heard it in the hotel room.
You know the way they tuck the covers and will take in those hotel
rooms. I can't sleep like that, so I tried to kick it out
and they pulled it. I know, why do they make that bed salt
tight? You gotta sleep with your feet like that? George, you know
he can't run because you've got a bad hamstring for trying to kick the covers
out. That is like quintessential George, isn't it. It's quintessential sign film.
Just take you a second to like why do they why do they make
the beds exactly in this situation, a sidebar, a conversation. Yeah,
it's for mental patients. And then George tries to call the police, but
unfortunate they come back in a little bit too early. The Jews, they
hate grass. They're responsible for astro too. This is the thing that said
Tim won't leave. Then George waves his dick around, he's O'Brien dick around
and gets him to leave again. He forgot something. I'm sorry, Why
didn't they just call the police back? Good point? Well, George is
probably thinking, oh, oh, they'll pick up, they'll know what was
the same number, and they'll think that I'm a a brank caller or something.
Yeah, yeah, but they suggest getting out at Cramer and a Lane,
and they can't shoot us in the city because nobody's been shot in the
city. Jerry's eye roll after that is just fantastic. I don't think.
I mean, he does a lot of sort of expressive acting and physical acting
all that kind of, but I think that's the most extreme that he's ever
done. Like real gonna, yeah, real eye roll. That's great.
Kramer thinks that Jerry is O'Brien. I'm not telling something that's going on.
I can feel it, sense it joking around. Hold on, this is
no joke. Brian's coming in from Chicago. Jerry's in allimbo says he's a
Brian. That's not funny. Oh my god, yes, yes, what
is it? Don't you see? There's always been something very strange about Jerry,
always so clean and organized. Do I have to spell it out for
you? The limbo, the name, the rally at Madison Square Garden,
Jerry O'Brien are the same person. Jerry is the leader of the Area Union.
Jerry's the Nazi. Listen, you idiot, just down. I know
Jerry, you nay, don't think he's not a Nazi. He's just neat.
That's just like so perfect, isn't it. He's not a Nazi,
he's just neat. But the way as you're saying earlier, the way that
she's just like maybe he's in on it, it could be like she's just
just taking the fist. This is Unfortunately, we live in a post COVID
world now where a lot of the conspiracy theorists who we may not have known
we're conspiracy theorists, we now know the conspiracy theorist And that was saying shit
during that time where you're like, I wonder if they'll ever look back on
that and go, I probably should have put my phone down. Oh yeah,
yeah, It's it's always funny when you know the rational and just about
every other thing, but they've got, you know, one little conspiracy there,
and you want to, oh, is this like the crack and the
damn? You know, if if everything started out everything I'll started to go
south, would you sort of start seeing more cracks like and then this happened
and that's responsible for that? Yeah, I wonder if believing in one conspiracy
theory sort of leads to believing in multiple conspiracy theory. I feel like many
of us have that one friend who we know believes in at least one conspiracy
to you, and we don't dare ask them on it. We don't don't
question them on it because if you do, you know, it's just gonna
just unravel. Oh yeah, that's picking up the loose thread, and then
your whole jumper is just a pile of the pile of the three. It's
like, I like, ninety five percent of you that that bit there,
I could like, I can just forget it, and the majority of you,
I like, let's just leave that part aside and focus on the what
I do. Like George is now whistling if I were a rich man,
Joe, tell them to stop it. Tim. Tim thinks that you know,
you don't look like O'Brien's and Murphy's. Oh might not look like a
Murphy, but I act like a Murphy. He's Murphy to a fault.
And he says he's from Ireland, but he's gone unfortunately a Scottish Scottish accent
because on the on the border. I love that the Cereal famine story just
straight away just comes up with a story what they came to America? He
thinks um came of thinks that they're CIA. Georgeorge's George's CIA too, Joe,
Joe's too normal to be a comedian, and George's whole person. It's
a disguise. No one could be like that. And this is sorry,
this is where we get that Lane patronizing him because it's just he's whole.
It's just Cramer here. The majority of Crammer we like. And then you
focus on the conspiracy theories. But Cramer as a character, he's very open
minded. You can tell you he could be kind of personally be very sucked
into that kind of thing. Well, yeah, I mean, I don't
think this is a theory that he's going to carry to his grave. I
think he's just trying to make sense of a situation that seems nonsensical. So
it's like, well, you know, sometimes you've got to pick the most
sensible, you know, explanation, and in this case it's yeah, they're
either neo Nazi or CI or whatever. He's just gone completely off the rails.
But like I said, I just love Julia's yeah, sort of imitation
of Michael Richards plays Kramer thought that they arrived to pick them up and they
think they're safe, but unfortunately the crowd over here is Kramer saying O'Brien.
They think it's O'Brien, so I get into the limoid to get safe.
Kramer gets the names confused immediately. It's always Cramer. It just starts the
schemes to unravel. Happened in them in their boyfriend Remember where's he answered the
phone and things like that. So he passes the phone to Ava and she
says, it's O'Brien, and if you're in George or Joe's position, not
need black. Oh no oh. Cut to Ava and Tim pointing the guns
at them. We all come clean at the same time, like as i'd
ask, you know, so sorry. We would want to upset an Nazi.
We would want to do it. I mean, while the crowd's jumping
all over the limbway thinking that they are the Nazis, and it's just it's
all gone to shit. I was trying to hear what the various actors were
saying when they're having the guns point them. I just love Julius saying I
would never make a Nazi unhappy. Yeah, yeah, I would never.
They see Dan at the window. He's confused, and then George is down
on the news pleading I am not O'Brien, I'm not O'Brien. Meanwhile,
it says O'Brien and that wraps it up, and that wraps it up.
Yeah, well with a little bit of a comedy at the end of it.
But I did like the stand up at the end with the two versions
of the hile the casual casual workplace. Ha. Yeah, I mean,
but a bit of an abrupt ending. Yeah, I thought that the episode,
it's like they wrote it into a wrote themselves into a hole, like
how do we get out into a corner? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's like there's no way of getting out, which normally sifel doesn't feel like
that, But at the end, I just went, oh, that that's
the end, okay, because I wasn't doing a track of the time,
but when it got to the I was wandering to think, how is this
all going to work out for them? And it doesn't work out? No,
No, I've been interesting to see how this situation actually resolved itself.
Yeah, anyway, but I mean it's kind of a memorable closer though.
Just John Camera on the six o'clock news or whatever it is, Yeah,
yeah, just identified as as donaldore Brian Nazi leader or thank god this was
the pre internet. So overall, I remember when I first, you know,
was a big fan of Scifelf watching the show through, I wasn't huge
in this episode. Revisiting it now, I know whether it's just age or
experience, but I'm watching now, I'm just like, this is so fucking
fun. It's just the idea of being a situation and the first half of
it, anyway, being in a situation where you're like you're pulling something off
where you know it's a bit cheeky, you're not really breaking any laws,
you don't want to get caught, but it's like the thrill of being caught.
It's like, oh my god, how fun can we How fuck can
we push this? When we pick up our friends, we can go to
the basketballs it'll be great. But then obviously all und rebels. But yeah,
the Limo a very enjoyable episode. Yeah. Look, I was very
very happy to revisit this one. I was one that I was looking forward
to, and it lived up to its reputation in my mind, because the
mail never stops. It just keeps coming and coming and coming. There's never
a line up. It's relentless all right. Some mail Bay questions here,
starting with our man Pat Right, He says, what's the least important thing
you would pay to be in a limo? For the least important thing?
It's funny when I was a teenager the area grew up in that I grew
up in a suburb called Cryo for our list is sort of like the riff
raff area, and the Cryo boys whenever used to go to a concert.
I would always go on the train, but they would always hire a limo
to go to the concert. No. I just saw it so fucking lame.
But they thought that was so cool, rocking up the festival hall getting
out of a limo, like they thought they were fucking rock starts. You
just looked like dickheads. Having said that, look, I don't think i'd
go anywhere in Geelong in a limo. I think if I was going to
be hiring a limo, i'd probably want to make the trip to Melbourne.
Yeah. Now, but if you're like in high school whatever to your to
your dad or whatever it is your dead ball and that kind of thing,
you might do it in high school. We did in high school. Maybe
maybe, but I don't know. I gotta like the idea of your mate
just rocking up downside festival. The thing is they used to think that when
they rocked up that people thought, oh my god, someone for the band
arrive in ten minutes before the show starts. It's gonna be there. But
what's what's the least important thing that I would actually do it for. It
has to be you're gonna make it worth it, don't you? You really
do? I mean what, You're not going to hire a limo to go
down the supermarket ship. We're out of rise bubbles. Next questions from Jack
McFadden. Would you date a Nazi if she was cute enough? Firstly no,
Secondly, heck you don't think I can't think of that now? Of
course, Look, yeah there's something. There are some lines where it's just
like, I don't care how gorgeous you are. No. A joke that
I wrote agent was, um, it's not really even a joke. Some
people are much to find the defensive. I think some like limited edition chocolate
bar had come out. It was really tasty, and I think I wrote
when asked if you would punch a baby in a face to get a free
you know, Mars raspberry chocolate bar guy Davis was her to reply, A
baby, I don't know, but I thought there was a brigig gag if
what if? What more guys, and was following on Twitter was at Robert
guy Davis that's correct? Or do you have a like a I just used.
I just used for figure discounts now is my personal one? Yeah?
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All right, but yeah. In answer and in answer to Jack's question,
no, I would not date a Nazi. Andrew just maybe. Andrew Swan
says if you somehow ended up in the wrong limo and you were mistaken for
someone famous, how would you go about going along with it? Like?
Would you be able to? I would go that I like to play.
It saved most of the time. But there's a part of me that's just
like, no, no, no, fuck this this is a once in
a life opportunity. Let's what's the worst that can happen? Like you were
saying earlier, let's just go with this. If they if they think that
we're this person, why wouldn't you? But look, what actually is the
worst that can happen? I think I'd be constantly trying to think of ways
to not admit that I was the person they thought I was. You know,
so I could What was it like when you made such and such?
Well, it's like anything when when when when you make anything, you know
it's going to be an interesting situation, isn't it. You know, don't
cop to being the person they think you are, so in case, you
know, they say we're going to chuge you with fraud. It's like I
never said I was so and so you thought I was so and so I
didn't. I didn't say, I didn't deny it. I didn't deny it.
But everyone's listening is going, oh my god, God's the worst person.
He's got no moral compass. He's George, Holy Holy asked, have
you ever pretended to be somebody else to get something? How do you pretend
to be somebody else? How do you get into that situation? I've used
a fake idea when I was younger to get into a pub, but that's
about it. Yeah, I've never said it was anybody else. I've never
needed too too famous. Likewise, I'm talking about you. That's you.
Oh, I'm David. I've also posted on our Twitter page at Talking Seinfold
to see whether anyone's asked the question on there. All right, so this
one's from Boston Kennedy. Boston Kennedy says, do you guys ever come across
these articles offended from Seinfold and Friends and always can't help but read them?
Always very amusing. We've discussed this on the Friends podcast and where they you
know, you get Yeah, your millennials going, oh my god, we
should totally cancel this Friends episode, and should totally cancel this Siinfold episode,
And it's like, let's just fuck off, go make a larte and go
sit with your fucking laptop. Well yeah, I mean, rather than rather
than try to correct the past, or rather than try and rewrite the past,
why don't you just write the future yes, don't you just you know,
make the kind of shows that you feel would not offend. But yes,
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Davis. Any final words for those amazing listeners out there. Well, Dan,
I think I speak for both of us when I say I would never
make a Nazi unhappy.