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so this episode was called this is
episode ten, then yes, and

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called it was a good jay.
It starts off with everybody back in the

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house, and my notes on this
are a lot of nothing happens. There's

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no one confronts Laurel about her her
chicken shit bullshit in the last episode,

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Karra, so she's really excited to
be back. We get a shot of

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an extended shot of Leroy empty emptying
a freezer full of breast milk. So

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I guess they were freezing all of
it to go. Yeah, harken back

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to our original our first few episodes
in the season ship that back home?

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Yeah? Yeah, is this where
Laurel was sort of awkwardly defending her position

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though in confessionals, Yes, when
she was making out with Nicole in the

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kitchen or in the laundering room.
Yeah, barf making up with the coal

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in the in the launder room,
saying that she only wants to go into

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elimination if it's physical and against Kara. Yeah, it's the only way she

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wants to go into elimination. Okay. And there's been no physical eliminations in

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this season, and there will be
because that's what they have made it very,

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very very clear that anyone can win
these eliminations, which I appreciate but

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I also don't. I like a
head banger, but I don't like it

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rubs me the wrong way that that's
what Laurel like. That's all she's got.

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Yeah, that's all she wants.
She wants to go against Kara in

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a in a head banger, and
that's it. And it's because she's much

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bigger and stronger. That's the thing
I don't think she actually is. She

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used to be much bigger and stronger, but Cara has spent her entire off

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time doing nothing but CrossFit and getting
working out, whereas Laurel has been in

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school and working as a vet or
a vet tech or whatever the hell.

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She is. Like, she's big, and yeah, I'm sure she's strong,

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and she does have a few inches
on Kara, but I truly don't

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think that Laurel is just a given
win in a physical competition against her,

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because Cara is a fucking beast.
She always has been, not always,

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she has been for the last however
many seasons. But yeah, yeah,

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no, I I totally agree.
I think Sorry, no, I was

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gonna say Lurel is just the worst
this season. This is just the worst

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version of Laurel that this is gonna
sound ridiculous, But Laurel is resting on

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her Laurels and thinking that like,
oh yeah, this is gonna be a

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big deal. I can go to
a physical competition against someone who I have

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beat and a competition, but she
has beat in a physical competition, like

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someone who had a broken arm in
one of them. Yeah, and the

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other she barely won. Like yeah, no, I agree. I've lost

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a lot of love for Laurel.
I really think this, and like World

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of the World's too, it's I
think I feel Aboutlaurel the way you feel

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about Durell, where it's like maybe
you should just stop, like maybe we

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don't need to see him, Like
I still like Drell. Derell is still

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a good human being. He's still
like he's still fun to see because he's

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like I still like seeing him on
the All Star seasons. I don't want

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to see him in the regular one, but I still like to see him

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on the All Star seasons. Laurel, I just don't want to see it

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all. She's such a fucking asshole. I want to see Laurel just because

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I agree, like as a person, she's not great, but like even

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if all she has headbangers, I
still feel most casts that she's on,

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I'm gonna look at her and be
like, oh, she's like top three

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strongest women on this cast. Yeah. Probably, but if she never does

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anything with it, who cares like
she she totally chickened out on you know,

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last episode, so good. She
doesn't done eliminations. I mean she's

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won like what three or so daily
John Design. She definitely is using her

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strengths. She is winning stuff,
just not eliminations. Yeah, I mean

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she's winning things like the weird game
that they have today, but it's it's

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still like the whole reason we want
to see her is to see her like

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win eliminations as well, and especially
in a game where you have to win

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an elimination in order to be able
to get one of these stars like moral,

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why are you being such a chicken
shit and not going in there like

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you could easily beat most of the
women in this house. Yep. Also,

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the scene with her Nicole was really
uncomfortable. I don't need to see

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stuff like that, no, but
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That was the first time anyway that
I saw Laurel seems sort of like vulnerable

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and sort of like she was very
like, oh, I like being able

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to kiss you, and I like
being here for this. It's like baby

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baby talk sort of ship. Yeah, and Nicole was kind of me too.

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Yeah. Seeing Laura like that was
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seeing her like that. So yeah, Nicole's got some sort of spell over

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her or something there. Nicole's got
the golden pussy speaks from knowledge I am

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her only boyfriend. There you go, there you go. Yeah. I

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hated that scene, you know,
just because it really showed just how how

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much of a fuck boy Nicole is
and how fucking pussy whipped. Uh.

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Laura is like, you know,
that's fine because I, uh, it

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might've been someone in here, might
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like, I was talking to someone
the other week about my Nicole jersey from

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the volleyball thing that Tim and I
went to and where Nicole sign is like

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to my first and only boyfriend,
Zach, I'm talking said about and they're

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like, do you think she signs
that to all the guys? And I

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was like, I said that,
why did you even put that on my

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head? Yes? It's like,
yeah, she absolutely puts that on everybody's

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thing. Zach. Just who cares, don't let Carlin bum your head.

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Then, I mean, I get
where Laurel's coming from, because apparently I

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felt for Nichole's riz as well.
I thought I was actually super surprised that

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you didn't immediately think that, like
that's the I don't know, I just

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when I when I think of like
what people sign on autographs, that sort

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of thing, like they have their
go to phrases like best wishes or uh

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to my biggest fan, or you
know, kill it in the chat.

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Yeah nice chance and nice chits let's
go. Maybe yeah, maybe it's just

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because we had other guys on our
volleyball team and she didn't put on any

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of theirs, So it did even
cross my mind, like, oh,

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like may she put on other people's
like at different events. Yeah, you

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gotta get over that one, sorry, buddy. I don't know if I

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should be distraught or like honored that. I mean a cold number. Please

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don't take this as me being an
asshole, but it is probably because you

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were the least threatening person on that
team. Is that an asshole thing?

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That's a good thing, right,
woman? Like that? I mean,

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I I don't think it's an issue, but like men there, men are

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weird and take shit like that personally, and so yeah, being non threatening,

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Yeah, being told that they're non
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I mean I might have been.
But also, the two other guys

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on my vall ball team were both
very openly gay, So you think it

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would be safer than I would be. Maybe? Yeah, probably a reason

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that's almostly probably the reason why she
didn't put that on theirs because she knows

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that they're gay and they're never going
to be her boyfriend anyway. Like Colls

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just over here trying to like kill
my dreams. I know, I'm just

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like you, keep you keep opening
it up to more things, like stop

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talking and I will stop saying things. Back you up, I beg you

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up, buddy. I bet you
one day she's going to be a challenge

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Mania and she I'll sneak off and
we'll have our like kitchen moment like she

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and Laurel did. Gross, Yes, please and record it. I'd like

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to see that on the show and
want Carlin to see it and realize how

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wrong she was during this discussion.
No, Nicole is a vindictive fuck boy.

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Gross, don't. I don't wish
that on anybody. She looks like

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Andy Dick. She does she does? All right, what would happened next?

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She sounds like Andy Dick talking with
me about her marbles in his mouth?

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Right. Well, yeah, so
I did not expect that to be

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a full blown conversation because, like
I said, I wrote down a lot

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of nothing happens because it was literally
a lot of zat. You gotta tone

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it down over them, Yeah,
I mean, We've got Jay talking about

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how he really wants a star,
which is a common theme for everybody this

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episode. Which is common theme for
everybody this season. Carus says that she's

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really surprised the world didn't go in. We've got Ryan saying that he wants

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to go against Jay to get a
star. An interesting thing, yeah,

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because he starts the episode off saying
that he wants to go in against Jay

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to get a star because he and
Jay are evenly matched and he thinks that

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they like that he would have a
fighting chance against them. Okay, cool,

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did you write down Carlin, let's
they call themselves? No, that's

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not until later. Oh, yes, but not until later note yes,

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uh oh. This is when Adam
says that he and Steve are super close.

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He also mentions that Steve is married
for twenty two years. Yeah,

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this was a shocker to me too. I don't know if Steve has been

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married for twenty two years or if
he's just he's been friends with him for

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twenty two years. And the way
that thing was said was very convoluted,

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But that's something that kind of comes
into play later on. It just is

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I found it very strange, like
you're saying that he's a great husband and

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great friend and they've met each other
for that long and all that sort of

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thing. I just didn't realize that
he and Steve were friends. Yeah,

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And I realized as Adam was sort
of talking about Steve and all this stuff,

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that's like, I know nothing about
him, Like, I don't know

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if he has a wife or kids. Are creepy? Is he creepy?

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We had a distinction about in the
discord too. I think he's I think

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Steve creepy. I think Steve is
creepy because there were multiple things that he

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did in this episode that I thought
were creepy. But I think Steve's amazing.

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He's crawling up my piring. He
was towards I can see how his

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weird quirkiness would be endearing, but
coming across the TV screen. To me,

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there is something that gives me the
ick for Steve Yes interesting and has

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made since the first day he set
foot on this challenge. On the Challenge,

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like back a few seasons ago in
the Discord, I think Steve is

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is a little weird, and I
think I think I'd be sort of uncomfortable

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talking to him. He just seems
like he's got one of those like sort

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of uncomfortable vibe kind of things going
on with him. That's what I made.

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It gives me the ick. But
I think he seems harmless. He

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seems like, I don't know,
he just seems harmless. He just seems

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like a goofball, like fun guy
who's a little weird. Adam seems just

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awful. Adam seems just just horrible. I mean see, that's the thing,

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Like I didn't think Adam seemed horrible
at all until like the last two

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episodes. I'm a much better character
than I feel like. I feel like

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I've been the most outslooking Adam defunder
this whole season, and my opinion him

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completely changed at the last like two
months. Redemption Redemption. This episode,

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we're a big, big we get
them talking, oh yeah, and then

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we've got Derek and Ryan talking about
how they want to get stars, and

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then Derek talks about how he wants
to build a house in Arizona and do

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the Golden Girls thing with Ryan.
Two old biddies living in a house together.

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Do we think they're secretly dating?
No? No, they don't give

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off the vibes for dating. Okay, I just think about it, because

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they just got added to Challenge Man
in Atlanta like a couple of days ago,

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which you no, I'll be going
to this weekend. We I thought

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about it. I've never seen them
got to Challenge Mania separate. Like every

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time they've gone to Tallesmaane, I've
been, they've been there together. I

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mean, they could just be two
old biddies who were good friends. They

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met Derek without without Ryan. Did
you in Nashville? Was in at Naturville?

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Okay at least one. No,
But they seem like really good friends

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or maybe they're dating whatever. I
don't think either of them are the type

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to want to twink. They both
seem like they want a big old bear,

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but that could just be me reading
the situation. Mhm, he is

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out of jail now. No,
No, let's not get in another bear.

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Discussion. Please want to be on
this podcast again. Well, we

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are onto the challenge. Oh yeah, dispacine. They need it. So

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the challenge is called roll with It. It's everybody's individual today. Everybody starts

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off on one end of this uh
parking lot with a bunch of poles in

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it standing in shopping carts. Uh. And they all have their own lasso

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and they have to lasso the polls
in front of them and pull themselves along

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to get to the other end of
the parking lot and first to first man

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and woman to get over there are
the winners. Uh. The last six

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players are the losing group. So
we get a great quote from a saying

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he does redneck ship like this all
the time his whole life. So this

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will be cake I'm finally worried about. Yeah. Ace definitely came out with

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his quirkiness. He also came out
with his like having an existential crisis this

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this week. He drives me crazy
towards the end of the episode. But

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he's got some good He's got some
good funny moment he was He was funny

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in this. I like him whenever
he doesn't have to vote people in.

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Yes, that was painful. That
was hard. It was. It was

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super painful. Yeah, so we've
got no one's really doing very well at

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lasting things. Ace does has a
pretty good lead to begin with. Uh,

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And then Jay figures out a strategy
because he realizes that TJ doesn't say

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that you have you have to last, so every single one of them,

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TJ says that you have to last. So the first one, or you,

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like the lasso is there, you
need to use it, but you

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are also allowed to grab the pillars
and push yourself along to help yourself.

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So Jay lasso is the first one. He gets to the first one,

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and then he just uses his big
old guns as he points at them in

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his confessional and pushes him from one
to the next. And he flies through

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this as soon as he finally gets
to that point, like he flies past

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Ace. He gets to the end
and wins like minutes before anybody else.

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It looked like Ace was close,
but then he went backward. You know.

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It looked like Ace was ten seconds
behind him, and then all of

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a sudden, yeah back at the
beginning, three or four spots back.

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Yeah, yep, I love this. I think this is fair game in

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the challenge man, Like whatever said
if the rules, don't say you can't

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do it. You can do it, and good for you Jay, he

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fucking rocked it. YEP, I
am right there with you. I think

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if it unless it is explicitly said
that you can't do it, then yeah,

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fair game, fair game with that
take I do. I I love

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seeing Jay do this because it was
just like fun to seem what someone kind

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of break the challenge. Yeah,
I And this is where I'm gonna we

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all kind of sound hypocritical and that. I like when they quote unquote break

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the challenge for things like this.
I hate when they break the challenge in

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like the voting and all that sort
of thing, like what Cam did whatever

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two episodes ago or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, like as long as it's

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not a I don't know, everybody
ganging up on people or yeah, those

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sides of things I fucking hate because
it just makes it so got down boring.

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This, on the other hand,
made it more fun. Yeah,

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it removes the competition element. Like
the Cam game was not nobody was really

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competing. It was all going against
just this one person. Yeah, where's

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this one? Was at least a
competition. It was Jay looking out for

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himself. He found a way to
game. It go for it, man,

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Yeah, I have no problem with
that. Oh my god, I

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just scrolled through the I realized that
I hadn't been paying attention to the chat

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room, and I have. Ryan
says that he thinks that Nicole has the

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Golden tongue, but either way or
both from King Right says later on,

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just a big fat tongue. That's
yep, that's why she talks that way.

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Huge tongue. Yeah, Nicole just
tack him with a mouthful of marbles.

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Oh so Jay wins. Nothing else
matters, right, except the women

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don't finish it. Flora, I
mean, neither does Leeroy. So Flora,

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Veronica, and Avery barely get off
the starting line. Leroy doesn't finish,

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so the it ultimately ends up being
Laurel and Jay win the challenge.

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The middle group is Ace, Derek, Adam, Nicole and Kara, and

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then the bottom the three guys that
don't finish are Steve, Lee, Royan

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Ryan or no, yeah, Steve
Lee, Royan Ryan. And then it

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doesn't matter for the girls. But
there was a little bit of like a

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Steve and Adam thing where they were
neck and neck at the very end,

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but Adam just crossed the finish line
first, and they both said like it

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could be a good thing for them
to be in the bottom, which I

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didn't really understand. It didn't make
a whole lot of sense to me,

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because like, if you're in the
bottom, you have the potential of being

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up for elimination, you have the
potential of your star being stolen. And

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yeah, if you're in the middle, you have the potential of your star

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being stolen, but you get to
vote who goes into the elimination like that,

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it doesn't make sense to me that
you would want to be in the

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bottom group. Yeah, and doesn't
it. I mean, you've got the

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you've got the words, there are
the names. Anyway, was there more

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men in the middle group than women? Because three men? Three men,

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two women, because just because the
three women didn't finished, like whoever was

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the other one to finish? There
were three men and three women in the

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bottom. There were three men and
two women in the middle, and then

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one and one for the winners.
We've got one more guy than we do

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girls. Okay, that makes more
sense. Yeah, okay. I saw

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Adam was on his own and I
was like, why are there fewer women?

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Is it like where the women penalized
for not finishing or okay, that

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makes sense. Yeah, this is
We get the first cut of Jay saying

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he is because he won, he
is absolutely going to take the place of

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one of the two people who gets
voted in. Yep, and smart,

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that's what he should do. This
is the time to do it. This

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is the best elimination to get into. Oh yes, absolutely, and he

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says it from the very beginning,
which I mean, I honestly, I

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think if you had won this eliminate
or this challenge, you should absolutely be

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saying that. You should absolutely be
saying, yes, I'm going in because

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yeah, it is the best time
to do this. Yep. And I

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think everybody knows that this is the
last elimination. Everybody's kind of even talking

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about and assuming that, and yeah, nobody can take it again after this,

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So this is the time to get
your star. Yep. And here

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we get Ryan's pretty convinced that he's
going to be going in because, I

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mean, as we talked about a
little while ago, he said that it

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would probably be him versus Jay,
like he wants to go up against j

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J probably wants to go against him. We'll get into that in a second,

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because they're relatively the same size and
same skill set and all that sort

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of thing. And then we get
a cut of Steve thinking that he's completely

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safe and that Adam and Ryan are
absolutely going to be voted in m or

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sorry not Adam and Ryan, that
Lee Roy and Ryan are absolutely going to

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be voted in, and it's like
he's just kind of like, yeah,

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I'm safe, I'm sitting pretty,
We're we're all good. And then TJ

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does something that I have never seen
TJ do before. Yeah, what was

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this? TJ gives medals with his
face on them to the two winners.

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What was this? What was this
whole fuck? It was? It was

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super bizarre, Like, this is
not the first competition they've done in this

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season. Why are you all of
a sudden giving them medals and wreaths and

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champagne and on these weird like Olympic
stacks or something, Yeah, podiums.

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And it was very weird. It's
very weird. I wonder if like the

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podiums were there and MTV was just
like, oh, we should do something

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silly here, and it felt very
random. Yeah, Laura was pumped,

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though, she was stoked. This
whole thing never seen Laura so excited about

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something so silly. Well, apparently, Ryan says that, apparently I'm I'm

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running with the bad takes tonight.
That Ryan and Derek are definitely not dating.

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They're into different types than the other, but they need someone like Ryan,

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all right. I mean, I
was probably just speaking for myself.

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I would end up wanting a bear, not a twink. So, Ryan,

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if you had to pick one of
those, always the bears. Guys.

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Sorry, Zach, that's fine.
What are you saying? Oh,

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I asked Ran if you had to
take either Derek or keyho which ones he'd

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taken. He says, Derek by
a mile. Yeah, yeah, Derek

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seems a little more normal. Yeah, frankly, yeah, I agree.

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All right. So then we're back
in the house and this is when we

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get Jay and Ryan, uh dueling
confessionals talking about how they call each other

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ocelots. I've never heard of these, really, I've heard of it because

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the TV show Archer. Yeah,
part of that, Oh, oslots are

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a big deal in Archer. I
think that's I think, I literally think

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it's the only time I've ever heard
of ocelot. Yeah, I think that

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was the first time that I was
introduced to it as well. And yeah,

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and I mean, like they show
up on the nature shows everyone,

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like Planet Earth and that sort of
thing occasionally. Yeah, you know whatever,

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these guys need to feel good about
them, So that's fine. I

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don't know if I've ever been impressed
with Ryan's performance is in anything? Nope,

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So I don't know if I agree
with this. And then yeah,

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obviously Jay's first performance around like didn't
leave an Ocelottish impression. No, he

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was definitely not impressed at the first
time around. Yeah, he was purely

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brought to the final as a fluff
player. Yeah, and it turned out

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to be a good choice. Yeah. So this is the first time that

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we get Ace saying that he doesn't
want to vote Ryan in and Ace and

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then he tells us that he has
had a deal with Ryan since the beginning

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that he will save him whenever he
needs to, which again was just a

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little a little weird. Yeah.
Since then, though, Zach and maybe

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you saw this. Did you see
Ace's post on Instagram kind of explaining his

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relationship with that with Ryan. I
did see that. Yeah. So apparently

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two days before the first All Stars, Ace's cousin asked away and then you

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know, they went away Argentina and
Ace was locked in sequestered for seven straight

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days and was like depressed over it. And Ryan was in the the hotel

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room right above him. So Ryan
would like to sit there at the balcony

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and like talk to Ace and comfort
him over his cousin and send him down

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food. And so they really came
in Okay. Yeah, and so they

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said he decided after that moment that
like any future seasons, he's got Ryan's

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back. Ryan was there when his
cousin died. Yeah, well, so

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our Ryan in the chat room says
Ryan has heart or did as a young

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person, but no skills and scared
of physical stuff. I agree. Ryan

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has always had heart like he's and
he's always been a fun player to have,

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but he's always been fluff. Yeah, He's never been a badass that

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I've seen, never never been intimidating
or scary in any capacity. No,

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but he's I mean, he's been
fun to watch just because he just has

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been. But yeah, thing we've
ever seen Ryan in the final because I

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feel like I feel like he's not
well suited for Law of elimination. I

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think he could be someone that like
could do a lot better in a final

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than in an elimination probably, And
I think that's we'll get into Winny chickens

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out. But you know, he's
holding on for one more star because I

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think he just knows he's gonna probably
be eliminated in most things, So just

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one more week and maybe he'll get
lucky or you know whatever. I think

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that's decision. This is This is
now the first of a few scenes that

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make me just feel like Steve is
fucking weird? Why why why do we

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have a scene of Steve showering right
and describing a shower and hygiene stuff.

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We need to not see this on
television ever. Again, I gree it's

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like a makeup thing, right,
It's extensive, the makeup thing. Are

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everybody heard? Everybody heard when the
women are doing their makeup, They're sitting

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there doing their makeup while having a
conversation about the game. Yeah, this

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was Steve describing his shower. M
This seems sexist to me. Why are

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women allowed to do this and men
are because they're not talking about their shower.

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They are talking about the game that's
been He's not talking about the game,

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he's talking about a shower. Women
are doing this I think the same

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thing. Why the did we need
a three minute scene talking about your shower?

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I don't fucking care. So here's
here's my thoughts. Is a cameraman

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followed him to the shower, probably
asked him about shower afterwards, and then

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an editor decided to put it in
the side. So why are we blaming

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Steve for this? Why are we
not blaming the cameraman and the editors that

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chose to show this, because that
is the point of this show, That's

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the point of all reality TV.
The producers and the editors and all that

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sort of thing are not there.
Oh, they play probably do the same

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thing, they just don't show them. They show Steve something we should be

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like, oh, Steve's weird,
It's like, no, they're probably all

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weird. They just choose to only
show with Steve's weirds. No, Steve

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made a pointed choice in how he
described everything. He could have said,

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oh, I took a shower,
I put in some leaving conditioner. It

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was thirty seconds because he went in
depth on the type of scrubs that he

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used and the type of conditioner and
how he was doing it. I don't

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need to know any of that shit. I don't care. I don't want

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to know. It nothing to do
with this game. There's nothing to do

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with this game, and it has
nothing to do with building character. I

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no, no, I don't want
to do it because giving blunt, boring

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answers to the producers, you know, makes them jump up down and go

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like we need to bring him back
in future seasons. Yes, exactly,

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because I don't want to see it. So I'm totally fine with blunt,

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boring answers. So what if Carlin, a woman is applying makeup and it

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shows that and nothing of any importance
happens in that scene at all, is

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that scene still worth having in there? No, if they're just showing them

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putting on makeup, I don't give
a shit. All right, as long

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as we agree none of this.
We need no hygiene on the challenge,

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we need no shots or talk of
hygiene. Agree. I'm telling you there's

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a difference between the scenes where they're
putting on makeup and this, because,

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like I said, in the scenes
where they're putting on makeup, they're usually

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sitting in front of a mirror,
putting on makeup, talking about the game,

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talking about things that are happening in
the game. This was literally just

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him describing the shower. Yeah,
I do that, Zach. Do you

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do manscaping like this? Do you
have a lotion regimen, skin care treatment?

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Not? Not year round? But
I got through my moments of it.

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Okay, how often do you guys
take everything showers? What's in everything?

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Shower and washing your hair, full
scrub all of like full lather of

408
00:29:40,119 --> 00:29:48,119
everything, cleaning everything every day,
little shave all of the stuff that's every

409
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,000
day, Oh my god, every
day. Really, it is so bad

410
00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:56,680
for your hair. I don't have
I don't have hair, so I don't

411
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,559
ever wash my hair. I don't
own shampoo, so I don't think I

412
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:07,079
would ever like hit your Okay,
okay, so here and everything shower for

413
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,880
most women are things like we actually
do a full wash on our hair,

414
00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:17,319
shampoo, conditioner, leave and conditioner. If you do it like full body,

415
00:30:17,759 --> 00:30:22,440
whatever you ship you your preferences on
shaving all of those things, all

416
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,359
of the areas, full scrub down
with any type of lufa exfoliant, all

417
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:33,440
of the everything. Shower is like
the long extended to all of the things

418
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,000
and a lot for a lot of
women it also Hey, we also have

419
00:30:38,519 --> 00:30:44,000
like things you put on after lotions
all of the things. This is too

420
00:30:44,039 --> 00:30:47,079
intense. This is too intense for
me. That's in everything shower. Never

421
00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:51,279
never done one, never in my
life never, So don't I don't know

422
00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:56,480
a loof. I was listening to
a podcast every day that mentioned this,

423
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,160
and their point was that men don't
know what everything showers are and have probably

424
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,680
never done everything showers because men are
grass. No. I like, I

425
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,680
have a bar of soap and that's
about it. A toothpaste, a toothpaste,

426
00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:12,279
and then yeah, my soap.
I just lather my hands and that's

427
00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:18,400
everything. I just put it everywhere. And the soap it's a good soap,

428
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,680
and it smells like cedar and bourbon. It's a very and it's a

429
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,079
brown, it's a brown soap.
I look very mainly when I do it,

430
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:32,039
and I shave my head and I
have a little hair on my cheeks

431
00:31:32,039 --> 00:31:33,599
that I don't like. So how
often do you how often do you do

432
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,880
the head shave and the cheek shave? Cheek shave like every every other day,

433
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,680
probably because it gets like it's like
noticeable. What about the head shave

434
00:31:42,839 --> 00:31:45,559
twice a week, twice a week
something like that. I have like a

435
00:31:45,799 --> 00:31:51,519
like a like an electric one.
It's pretty easy. Just yeah, see

436
00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:53,519
for me, in the summer,
like everything, showers in the winter don't

437
00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:57,759
include shaving all of the things in
the summer they do. And it's like

438
00:31:57,799 --> 00:32:02,400
a maybe once a week because I
usually don't have to. I don't wash

439
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:07,480
my hair every week or every day. I watch it like once a week.

440
00:32:09,359 --> 00:32:16,240
Yeah, i'd watch it, watch
that once a week, once a

441
00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:22,000
week. Well, because I didn't
take any consideration, like the the shaving,

442
00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:24,680
like the manscaping, but like everything
else, Like well, I had

443
00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:28,960
longer hair, I went through the
hair every day, like you know,

444
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,079
but like now shorter, I do
it pretty much every day. I don't

445
00:32:31,079 --> 00:32:37,720
do conditioner anymore, but like you
should. I feel like I don't tell

446
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:38,680
a difference when short. When I
had long hair, I could tell the

447
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,640
difference with the conditioner. Short hair, I don't tell. I can't really

448
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,880
tell the difference. Yeah, all
right, Well, I mean I know,

449
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,680
I just got I just went on
a tie ride about Steve talking about

450
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,400
his shower and now we just went
on once so hypocrite, That's I'm okay.

451
00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:58,920
I definitely will say I was much
more concerned with my shower routine when

452
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,200
I have long hair than I'm sure, oh, I would assume that.

453
00:33:01,359 --> 00:33:07,559
Yeah, that's yeah, that's obvious, right, Yeah, all right,

454
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:15,559
so uh oh this is where Ryan
mentions the TJ has stopped saying there are

455
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,960
six star holders going to the final, which I was kind of surprised that

456
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,200
he actually noticed this. I guess
I'm just used to the players being idiots.

457
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,519
And so he thinks that there's still
two starts floating out there and that

458
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:32,079
he can still get a star because
this is his first time of kind of

459
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:37,160
being like, I didn't actually want
to go in after telling us that he

460
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,960
did. Yeah, started to sink
in for him, like, oh no,

461
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:45,000
I'm actually gonna have to fucking do
it. And he tells this to

462
00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:47,319
Ace, and then Ace goes and
tells Kara and Leroy, who are apparently

463
00:33:47,319 --> 00:33:53,440
friends again, that Ryan doesn't want
to go in, but Lee Roy says

464
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:58,000
that he doesn't want to take the
chance of going in because of what literally

465
00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:01,400
just happened to Cam. Yeah.
Even though Jay is saying that he's going

466
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:06,319
to take that spot, he Leroy
doesn't want to put himself in that position

467
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,360
because it literally just happened to Cam. Yeah. To self preservation mood for

468
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,639
move for Lera and I get it. I get but Ryan should go in.

469
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:22,400
I mean, this is ridiculous that
we're even having to sort of think

470
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,039
about this. You know, Ryan
want to go in, Like what what

471
00:34:25,039 --> 00:34:30,000
are we doing? Yeah, yeah, I agree with all of that,

472
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:35,719
but yeah, this is the beginning
of Ace's existential crisis. Uh and Steve

473
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,119
and Leroy are both pissed because neither
of them one I have to give see

474
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:42,360
an elimination. Yeah, do we
think of Ace's existential crisis? Here?

475
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,519
Is this? Is? This?
Is this? Sincere? Is he doing

476
00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:49,559
this for the cameras? What's going
on? I mean, honestly, for

477
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:51,239
a lot of people, I would
say, no, it's not. For

478
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,239
Ace. It actually does feel like
he literally is having like a full like

479
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:59,079
I don't know what I'm Oh my
god, I've been put in a pressure

480
00:34:59,079 --> 00:35:06,039
situation. It feels real for him. Yeah, I agree. I think

481
00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:08,480
Ace just might be too nice to
these games, Like he can't make the

482
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:14,960
hard decisions. It's been true since
I mean every season he's since the beginning,

483
00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:16,920
you know, his old seasons.
Even this is kind of who he

484
00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:20,760
was. Yeah, he was at
a goof around, have a good time,

485
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,719
make some friends. I don't think
he cares that much about winning,

486
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,360
and he feels like he's not making
friends now, so he's not loving it.

487
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,880
Oh. Ryan says that he heard
on another Challenge pod that Ryan had

488
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,760
a major collarbone issue. He thinks
he broke it and didn't go to a

489
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,239
hospital until after the show because he
wanted to stay on TV. He had

490
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,480
that one big fall. We had
that big brute, you know, that

491
00:35:44,519 --> 00:35:49,119
big like that big bruise. It
was just like three or four episodes ago,

492
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,440
but it was one of the big
fallen water ones. I don't remember

493
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,960
which. Yeah, Ryan says,
Yeah, that's it. I don't remember

494
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,000
that, all right. Interesting,
I wish I would have said that.

495
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,039
I would be a little more forgiving
for Ryan if that was his right.

496
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:08,519
Can see that he could have He
could have done this one with the bump

497
00:36:08,559 --> 00:36:10,599
shoulder. I know he didn't know
that at the time, but this is

498
00:36:10,599 --> 00:36:14,320
a this is an elimination he could
have done with a bump shoulder easily.

499
00:36:15,039 --> 00:36:17,840
Yeah, so take your shot in
uh. Yeah. Ryan tells Jay that

500
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,719
he doesn't want to go into an
elimination against him because he thinks that Jai'll

501
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,760
beat him, and Jay's just kind
of like, wait, what Like,

502
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,840
I thought that's what we were going
to try and do. But whatever is

503
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,920
this that weird conversation they had where
Ryan's like, you're the strongest man in

504
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,559
the house. Of course I don't. Yeah, what the fuck? It

505
00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:36,159
was just like twenty seconds ago he
was talking about wanting to go against him

506
00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:38,119
because they had respect for him and
stuff. Yeah, and then on top

507
00:36:38,159 --> 00:36:40,800
of this, like this maybe kind
of sit here, this whole like few

508
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,920
minutes exchanged between all the people and
the house that some thing like Ryan says

509
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,960
that he doesn't want to go in, and then all of a sudden,

510
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,840
everybody's like, Okay, well obviously
he's not going in. Yeah, how

511
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:54,239
how does Ryan? Yeah, how
does he have that kind of pull on

512
00:36:54,280 --> 00:37:00,000
the house? I found that very
weird. They all of a sudden,

513
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,639
oh, yeah, well obviously he's
not going in. Yeah. I thought

514
00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:07,360
that was really weird too. Wait
what because he just said and he just

515
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,840
said after the challenge, after the
challenge, he said like I don't have

516
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,360
the numbers for the first time,
like I can't stop this, but then

517
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:17,480
he did. So it was I
found it very very very odd. I

518
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:21,159
just because I guess I just didn't
realize he had that many friends in the

519
00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:23,519
house, or that he had that
much pull in a house where he hasn't

520
00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:30,880
really had any power, and I
don't it found weird. It felt weird.

521
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:37,159
So then we're on to nominations.
Oh uh, two nominations the name

522
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:44,840
bitch, don't say my name,
bitch. What happened? Yeah, so

523
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:47,880
nominations. Nicole starts it off and
immediately says, well, Ryan and Steve,

524
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,280
and Adam has his whole big spiel
and says, you know, I

525
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,199
want to see the two star holders
go against each other, regardless of the

526
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:00,880
fact that Steve is a friend.
So Ryan Steve. He even says like

527
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,840
this is this is a game move. It's not personal this you know,

528
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,519
we're playing away at this point,
or he says something like that. Yeah,

529
00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:09,039
he says something like that, but
it's it's also the thing of like

530
00:38:09,159 --> 00:38:13,159
you at the beginning of this episode
talked about how Steve's you have a twenty

531
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,440
year friendship with him, and Okay, if this is a game move,

532
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,840
then I want you to remember that
statement, like, just just remember that

533
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,239
statement that you just said. Yeah, and then Derek says Lee, Roy

534
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:30,000
and Steve because obviously he's not going
to vote in Ryan, and this is

535
00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:35,320
Ace again having a full crisis.
He says Lee Roy, and then he

536
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,760
says he doesn't want to vote Steve
because Steve's already been in. He doesn't

537
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,960
want to vote Ryan because he gave
Ryan his word, and he just full

538
00:38:43,039 --> 00:38:46,320
full meltdown and says, can Cara, you go like, I don't want

539
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,960
to be the siting vote, which
I mean, I guess he would have,

540
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,599
but he also wouldn't have been the
desire. I found that a little

541
00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:58,639
weird, but whatever. Kara says
that she doesn't want to vote Steve because

542
00:38:58,639 --> 00:39:00,480
he's already been down in an elimination
twice and she knows how it feels to

543
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:05,199
be voted in multiple times in a
season, which I gave the props for,

544
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,920
and she votes Ryan and Leroy.
So this point in time, we

545
00:39:09,039 --> 00:39:12,960
have Leroy has three, so he's
absolutely going down there, which I think

546
00:39:13,039 --> 00:39:22,599
Lee Roy already knew. And we've
got Steve has two and Ryan has two,

547
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,639
so Ace is going to have to
be that deciding vote regardless. And

548
00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:29,800
he just keeps saying, I can't
say Ryan. I can't say Ryan.

549
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,360
I can't say Ryan, and they're
like, okay, well then it's Leroy

550
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:38,199
and they get up and go like
Nicole and Darrek go and put the names

551
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:43,079
up. And Ace lays down on
the couch and just said, I can't

552
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:47,800
say Ryan. Full meltdown, full
breakdown on the couch A little dramatic for

553
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:53,840
my taste here. It didn't feel
necessarily inauthentic, but it it was just

554
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,440
kind of like, what are you
doing? Did like you you look like

555
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,320
you're three years old right now?
Yeah, just it was weird. It

556
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:05,280
just felt I was just like,
Ace, fucking grow up, dude.

557
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,800
It's a game. And you said
a name like who gives a ship?

558
00:40:07,159 --> 00:40:15,760
Yeah, and his moackdown doesn't stop
here either, so then go straight to

559
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:25,480
elimination. Yeah. Uh. Leroy
says that he's he's putting on his shirt

560
00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:29,760
and he says he's ready to play, even though Jay has given his word

561
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:34,800
that he would take his place.
And Steve has just fucking pissed at Adam

562
00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:37,440
because they have a friend, they've
been friends for twenty years, and he's

563
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:45,000
annoyed that Adam voted to men.
But but like sort of appropriate, no,

564
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,599
no, annoyed, he's over the
top crazy, just sort of like

565
00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:52,599
that sucks, Like we had a
friend of a twenty year friendship. I

566
00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:58,320
would have thought that you would have
held that for more than than a brand

567
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,440
new friendship that you have with Ryan, but apparently not. Yeah, it

568
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,159
is generally good at it. I
mean it's just like I want to but

569
00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:10,559
that's a game. Yeah. Uh
So we're down there and t J calls

570
00:41:10,559 --> 00:41:14,920
the guys out and then says,
you know, these are the two star

571
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,320
holders. How this happen? Nace
says the you know, I wish I

572
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:22,280
was down there, still super down
on himself, and Leroy just sits there

573
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:27,079
like, dude, fucking chill,
like no one's gonna die, no one

574
00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:30,760
is mad at you, Like it's
a game. It's fine. And I

575
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,559
actually really appreciated Leroy saying this.
This is the first time that like we've

576
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:37,719
heard something of that from the people
that have been put into Elimination, Like,

577
00:41:38,199 --> 00:41:42,440
dude, it's not that deep.
Like it's really not that deep.

578
00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:45,960
This isn't the first time from Leroy
that we've seen him just sort of like

579
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:51,039
just like be cool and just like, you know, make things okay.

580
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,079
Yeah, but it felt like,
I don't know, I felt like I

581
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:57,800
saw some major growth in Lero.
Like Leroy has always been a good guy,

582
00:41:58,039 --> 00:42:00,599
always has always been a good guy. But this just this felt like

583
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:06,360
a very dad move. Yeah,
I agree this. Yeah, the way

584
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:12,400
he just that felt very dad of
him. Yeah. I like this moment.

585
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,079
I thought I really did appreciate this. Ace needed to hear that,

586
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:20,000
and Leroy was very mature about it. And I just love Lera, I

587
00:42:20,039 --> 00:42:22,679
just love I just love Leroy.
It is good to see Leroy. Yeah,

588
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:30,519
yeah, I love Leroy too.
Yeah. So TJ turns to Steve

589
00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:37,159
and basically says that he's gonna start
charging him rent because he's been down there

590
00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:40,159
so often. TJ was stoned in
this scene, right, are in agreement,

591
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,320
unbelievably stoned. He was super stoned. Chat room, Can you confirm

592
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:50,760
this absolutely? I know my people, and that was one of my people.

593
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,480
He was. He just was.
You could tell the monotone that like

594
00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:00,559
when he starts calling people bruh,
that's a that's a stone thing. Okay,

595
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:05,360
yeah, I can see that.
I definitely see that. Oh yeah,

596
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,280
I know what teaches. I knew
it instantly. Yeah, of course

597
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:13,440
we know. We know. Oh
that's great Ryan and the chat room he's

598
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,360
one of us too, he knows
all right, So onto the game,

599
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:22,480
the game is called shiska stack and
everyone turns to TJ and goes, what

600
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,559
TJ. It says. It took
me a while to figure out how to

601
00:43:27,559 --> 00:43:31,719
say that. Be happy. I
love TJ. This scene, this whole

602
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:37,280
thing was fucking great. It was
He's so weird. Ten take TJ.

603
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:42,360
I really wonder how many times it
took how many takes it took for him

604
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,719
to film that. Yeah, it
was good. So the game is there

605
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:54,000
are two tall water tanks that have
three poles next to them, and inside

606
00:43:54,039 --> 00:43:59,719
the water tanks there are puzzle pieces
that are There are two puzzle pieces that

607
00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:06,559
fit over the poles on either side, and you have to the two guys

608
00:44:06,599 --> 00:44:09,320
have to start on the outside of
the arena, run to their tank,

609
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:14,760
get in and pull the puzzle piece
out. Puzzle pieces out one at a

610
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,519
time, bring them over to a
basket or put them directly onto the poles,

611
00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:20,920
and then they can go back and
get the next one. And there

612
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:25,079
are fifteen puzzle pieces. The puzzle
pieces that have to be stacked on the

613
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:30,360
poles in corresponding color and they have
to be from the darkest shade to the

614
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:37,480
lightest shade. We then get the
TJ Asking Jay. So Bud, you

615
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:42,039
coming down here, like what's gonna
happen? And Jay kind of kind of

616
00:44:42,039 --> 00:44:44,360
plays it off like no, I'm
gonna let them do it. No,

617
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,000
I'm just kidding, I'm coming down. Yeah. I love this. I

618
00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:52,039
love this. J Yeah even that, No, I think you know,

619
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:58,039
like I mean, winning Thala was
like I think was the Laurel that said,

620
00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:00,760
like the benefit of winning? Did
you get the see what it is?

621
00:45:00,159 --> 00:45:04,159
And this is something where he's obviously
like he said, like my two

622
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,519
oh with Las suck. So yeah, I mean the two issues that Jay

623
00:45:10,679 --> 00:45:16,039
has with this specific game, this
is quite possibly the absolute worst game for

624
00:45:16,119 --> 00:45:20,519
him to ever go into. And
he acknowledges that is that he has a

625
00:45:20,519 --> 00:45:22,360
broken nose so he has to hold
he has to plug his nose when he

626
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:29,679
goes underwater, which I didn't realize
that was a thing, And that he

627
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,920
is partially color blind, which as
someone whose brother is color blind and my

628
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:38,719
grandfather color was color blind, shades
of red and green are really, really,

629
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:44,199
really hard for most people who are
colorblind to distinguish, especially if you

630
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,000
put them next to each other,
and especially if they have multiple shades,

631
00:45:46,119 --> 00:45:52,079
they all look the same. Some
people, it's it's more of the blue

632
00:45:52,119 --> 00:45:54,639
and purple thing, but for most
it's red and green, so that he

633
00:45:54,800 --> 00:46:02,880
had the absolute worst colors to have
to pick as well. But he had

634
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,519
to do it, right, I
mean he had to do Yeah, Zach,

635
00:46:06,559 --> 00:46:09,920
what is your what is what is
your what is your justification on why

636
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:15,400
he shouldn't have done it? Because
for so long we heard that there would

637
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:20,519
be like six people in the final, and there's still enough people left.

638
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,880
I just I feel like I would
have taken my chance because I would look

639
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:29,320
at this as like this is already
a losing prospect. Maybe I go home

640
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,639
with Astar, but if there's another
challenge, it'll more likely be up my

641
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:37,320
strengths. Yeah, I mean I
get it. Krus is a little bit

642
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,079
later that it's really awesome to see
that Jay sticks to his word because that's

643
00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:45,719
relatively rare in this game. Yeah, but it also leads you broke yes.

644
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,840
Yeah. I so I have a
little bit of a difference take on

645
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:52,280
this. I think that Jay had
to do it as part of his redemption

646
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,719
arc, and it was it was
not important whether he won or lost this,

647
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,480
but it was super important that he
did it because if he did not,

648
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:05,880
if he took if he pulled a
Laurel plus the fucking food thing that

649
00:47:06,119 --> 00:47:09,000
you know on his last season.
He's done, he is, we are

650
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:13,400
making fun of that motherfucker for the
rest of time for just being that guy

651
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,079
who like blows it, you know. And so he took he did the

652
00:47:17,159 --> 00:47:20,800
right thing, he said, I'm
I'm not taking the easy way out.

653
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,800
I'm not chickening out this time.
I'm doing it even though it's hard,

654
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,960
even though I'm at a like disadvantage. I'm doing it as hard as I

655
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,480
can. Yep. Yeah, I
mean so really quickly, just to run

656
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:36,800
through the game when they're when they're
getting so we get another magic scene of

657
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,760
him changing clothes. I noticed it
this time. And then we get a

658
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,320
quick scene doing it too, right, TJ stripping little Yeah, well he

659
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:50,599
was putting his jacket on whatever.
Sexy, Yes, yes, well t

660
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,000
J is sexy. Men. We
also get a quick scene, not very

661
00:47:53,039 --> 00:47:58,239
quick, but a scene of Stephen
j taking their shirts off and Jay is

662
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:02,400
like staring at the at what's around
them, and Steve is staring at the

663
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:09,760
camera. Oh my god, this
was so creepy. I know that he

664
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,800
thinks that he's trying to be funny
and I'm sure a lot of people take

665
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,320
it that away. But yet again, another thing for me that was like,

666
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,519
this is the ick. This right
here is the ick. Yeah,

667
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:22,760
it's weird. Whatever, even if
you're picked out by Steve that this is

668
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,960
an important question. Would you be
less picked out if he had shorter hair?

669
00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:30,000
Yes, his hair is crazy,
right, It's like it's too thin

670
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:37,119
and it's like scraggly, and yes, I mean as thin as Yeah,

671
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,159
yeah, he needs he needs to
cut the hair, and then he'd be

672
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:45,239
hot and not creepy and not creepy. He'll still be creepy. It just

673
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,000
he would not be hot. He
would still be creepy, he would just

674
00:48:49,039 --> 00:48:52,679
be less creepy. Is he not
hot? I don't think he is.

675
00:48:52,599 --> 00:49:00,280
I think he's a very good looking
guy. Act I have a bad I

676
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:01,239
was gonna say a bad intuition,
but I don't think I do, because

677
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,320
look at at him, look at
it. I knew, I knew,

678
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,320
I knew it's up. I think
Adam's better looking than Steves. Though.

679
00:49:07,559 --> 00:49:10,679
Yeah, but I'm a good judge
of character. You would be better off

680
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:15,199
with with Steve in the woods than
Adam. Well, yeah, yeah,

681
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:24,480
for sure. Steve over bear Bear
over Adam either bear going there, yeah

682
00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:30,519
as still I don't know what I'm
abbit still in Yeah yeah. So Jay's

683
00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:35,639
color blindness completely fox him in this
game. I was kind of really surprised

684
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:40,599
that his rider dye people, Coarra
and Nicole, even Laurel weren't up there

685
00:49:40,639 --> 00:49:44,800
actually helping him with the colors,
like telling him where to put things that

686
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,760
Nicole is yelling, everyone's one,
that's a red one, that's a orange

687
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,559
one, like put that one back. Yeah, But then he put an

688
00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:52,960
orange one on top of a red
one and they were very obviously not the

689
00:49:53,119 --> 00:49:58,639
like one shade to the next,
and like even even if they had been

690
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,039
the bright color, they were very
obviously not one shade to the next,

691
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,320
and no one said anything. I
don't it just it it seemed like he

692
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,519
didn't have any help up there,
and that was bothering me. And ultimately,

693
00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:16,000
Steve Wins, this is where I
I one percent agree with you on

694
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:21,880
Jay needed to do this to have
his rediction arc because TJ tells him that

695
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,000
he is the most If there was
the most improved award, it goes to

696
00:50:25,079 --> 00:50:30,280
J, and I think TJ is
thinking across all the seasons, if there

697
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,079
is a Most Improved Award because that's
what I thought, Uh, it goes

698
00:50:34,119 --> 00:50:37,360
to j and I completely agreed.
Like, if Jay did not go down

699
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,320
in this elimination, if he had
pulled a Laurel and stayed to the next

700
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:45,119
episode, then there's no guarantee that
he will ever come back to this game.

701
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:50,440
I think now he is guaranteed a
spot in the next season. If

702
00:50:50,519 --> 00:50:57,880
there is a season after forty,
I think he's guaranteed a call because it

703
00:50:58,119 --> 00:51:01,320
like he proved himself to be a
really competitive, fun player to watch.

704
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,440
Yeah, and this, honestly,
this was his Jordan flipping all the cards

705
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:13,400
yep, I think, I yes, that's a good'. This was his

706
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,840
equivalent to that. Yeah, he
had he had to do this winner loose.

707
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:20,360
This was this was the right when
Jordan came out to flip all those

708
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:27,880
cards. Jordans saw the big giant
wall made of of sheet ron and knew

709
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,760
what that game was going to be
and still went down there and flipped all

710
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,599
those cards. Ye, knowing that
he's most likely going to lose that game.

711
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,199
Ye, Jada the same. But
it was the it was the right

712
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:38,920
move. It was absolutely the right, but like it was not the right

713
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,360
move and that he's not going to
win the money, but it was absolutely

714
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,760
the right move in his longevity of
being part of this series or part of

715
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:52,320
this show. Yeah, I think
it depends what the next So I personally

716
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,920
think there will be at least one
more male elimination, And I think the

717
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,800
best move for him would have been
if he sat this one out. When's

718
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,960
the next male game? Says TJ. That last one wasn't me, this

719
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,320
one this is mine. I go
down there, he wins, he makes

720
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,719
a final boom. Yeah, but
I don't. I don't think it's guaranteed

721
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:13,760
that the next game he will win
the challenge or that he will be voted

722
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,760
into that channel into that elimination.
So I think this is a better choice

723
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:21,159
for him all around. He is
guaranteed to go down into the elimination.

724
00:52:21,559 --> 00:52:24,960
It is a game that, I
mean, even despite his difficulties, he

725
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:30,719
could still have potentially won. And
yeah, I mean, I just I

726
00:52:30,039 --> 00:52:37,119
feel like this was a better choice
overall versus him potentially getting the chance for

727
00:52:37,159 --> 00:52:42,679
a star in the next one.
Yep, I agree, but I agree

728
00:52:42,679 --> 00:52:45,880
on that. Yeah entirely, I
will say, and I like Jay,

729
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,320
this is not meant to be too
much of a criticism, But Jake came

730
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,599
into this season with a lot to
prove, and he really wanted to do

731
00:52:52,599 --> 00:52:54,519
this redemption arc, and it seemed
like a lot of his story was sort

732
00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:58,559
of try hard. It was sort
of like, don't he just seemed like

733
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:01,360
a little try hard. I would
like to see him come back just be

734
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,480
able to play. Yes, just
play. Just be cool. We like

735
00:53:05,519 --> 00:53:07,480
you now, we respect you.
We know you're capable. Like, just

736
00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:10,119
be cool and fun. Stop with
this, like, I'm such a badass.

737
00:53:10,119 --> 00:53:12,880
I have so much to prove.
I'm better than what you thought I

738
00:53:13,039 --> 00:53:16,079
was. Like, just just chill
now, No, I agree, I

739
00:53:16,119 --> 00:53:22,480
agree, it would have It would
be nice to see him come back and

740
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:27,599
and like just be able to play, just be able to play the games

741
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,719
and show like, yeah, I
really am a great competitor, Like I

742
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:32,960
can do this. This will be
this is my thing. Like we're good

743
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:38,880
to go. We do get a
scene of Nicole just balling her fucking eyes

744
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:44,800
out. Ooo fucking who. It
is a little weird though, that they

745
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:49,199
ended up in the same fire department, isn't it challenge people in the same

746
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:55,039
fire Yeah? Okay, And so
Jay leaves and now we are on the

747
00:53:55,119 --> 00:54:00,840
Steve. Steve already has a star, so so Steve can either steal a

748
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:05,119
star from one of the women and
give it to a different woman, or

749
00:54:05,159 --> 00:54:07,400
he can steal it from a man
and give it to a different man.

750
00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:13,920
And Steve walks over there without any
hesitation and takes Adam star and says,

751
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:22,159
Ace, this is yours, and
Adam is fucking livid. Adam has Adam

752
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:29,519
has a confessional almost immediately where he
says he feels betrayed and goes on a

753
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:36,239
full minute long tirade about how Steve
is going to try and say that he

754
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,360
won this game and that he won
this elimination, but it was an elimination

755
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,159
where the other person was at a
severe disadvantage, so it's obviously going to

756
00:54:42,159 --> 00:54:45,480
be his story is going to be
super embellished and Steve, this is why

757
00:54:45,519 --> 00:54:50,880
Steve doesn't have any friends inside the
house or outside of the house. This

758
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,159
is why he's never going to answer
another phone call from him. This is

759
00:54:53,159 --> 00:54:58,679
why they are not friends, and
then proceeds to flip off the camera and

760
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,840
says sit and spend and then mentions
like oh, I'm I'm just getting all

761
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:07,000
hot and like sticking sweaty, like
I'm so aggravated right now, Like,

762
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:15,840
oh my god, it was Yeah, it was so over the top.

763
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,760
Yeah, it was looney, it
was Yeah, it's insane. It was

764
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:27,559
bizarre, especially he had just voted
Steve in saying it makes the most sense

765
00:55:27,679 --> 00:55:31,719
for my game to be get further. That's what Susan right, Like Steve

766
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:37,000
is just giving medicine. You should
have just taken it on the chin like

767
00:55:37,039 --> 00:55:43,159
you should have. I mean,
I, although I don't like him,

768
00:55:43,159 --> 00:55:46,360
I won't play down Avocan. I
can't see one way that you can defend

769
00:55:47,039 --> 00:55:52,440
not his reaction, but his decision
to be annoyed, which is he made

770
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:58,679
a decision where it protected his own
star, Like there was no way he

771
00:55:58,679 --> 00:56:02,199
could help Steve without risking his own
star, whereas when Steve won, he

772
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:06,840
had ways where he could protect his
star without, you know, like he

773
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,800
didn't have to risk his star to
protect Adam. So like, but isn't

774
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:15,960
there no win, like either I
screw Steve or I screw myself, whereas

775
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:22,719
Steve had the like we both win. I okay, so I understand that.

776
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:29,519
But at the same time, like
we have just listened to you talk

777
00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:34,760
about this is a twenty year of
friendship. Yeah, and even though you

778
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,119
have the potential of risking your star, it's not a guarantee that you're risking

779
00:56:38,159 --> 00:56:44,079
your star because Adam wouldn't have been
the one going in. It would have

780
00:56:44,119 --> 00:56:50,199
been Leroy, Leroy and Ryan,
not Steve. Yeah, and there's a

781
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,199
very good chance that Ryan is not
going to win against Leroy, even in

782
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:58,440
a game where they're having to dive
underwater, because if Adam voted, if

783
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:02,000
Adam voted what's his name, Ryan
instead of Steve, Ryan goes in,

784
00:57:02,079 --> 00:57:07,000
right, Yeah, Ryan goes in. So so so Adam sacrificed Steve to

785
00:57:07,079 --> 00:57:12,320
keep his star safe. He put
Steve's star at risk to save his own

786
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,760
star. Yeah, and yes,
Steve just took it away. But so

787
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,119
what that's sort of the risk that
you take by throwing in something. I

788
00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:22,440
mean, it comes back, Yeah, it was. It was a Okay,

789
00:57:22,599 --> 00:57:25,239
you did this. I'm going to
pay you back for the shit move

790
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:31,639
that you just made because you could
have said Ryan, because if if if

791
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:38,000
Ryan had won, then Ryan would
have taken LeRoy's star, and if Leroy

792
00:57:38,039 --> 00:57:44,079
had won, Leroy has has the
choice between Adam and Steve, or he

793
00:57:44,159 --> 00:57:50,920
also has the choice between Kara Uh
Veronica and Nicole, and it would have

794
00:57:51,039 --> 00:57:52,719
like, honestly, it would have
been a pretty easy decision to just be

795
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:59,039
like, oh well, I mean
I've already taken karas Starr how many times,

796
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,960
or like being going against her for
how long? Just go in there

797
00:58:02,119 --> 00:58:06,800
and take car a star and give
it to someone who's give it to another

798
00:58:07,159 --> 00:58:09,360
Give it to Flora Laura, Yes, who was fucking week is all get

799
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:15,119
out but somehow got the last words
in this episode to win. That's the

800
00:58:15,199 --> 00:58:17,519
move. Take Car out, put
Flora in there, and now, yes

801
00:58:17,679 --> 00:58:22,079
they're a lot closer to winning.
Yeah, but think I get that Adam's

802
00:58:22,119 --> 00:58:27,639
Starr was still at risk there,
But I mean his star was going to

803
00:58:27,639 --> 00:58:30,079
be at risk one way or the
other. Like it didn't matter which side

804
00:58:30,079 --> 00:58:31,719
it was on. His star was
still going to be at risk. Oh

805
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:37,519
no, because by throwing in the
two Star winners, whoever lost their targets

806
00:58:37,559 --> 00:58:42,360
taken. Yeah, but at the
challenge. At the challenge, they already

807
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,280
knew that Ryan was taking the place
or that Jay was taking the place of

808
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,800
one of the people down in that
elimination. Yes, so it did not

809
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:52,119
matter if it was if it was
two Star holders or one, because one

810
00:58:52,159 --> 00:58:55,719
of those star holders is automatically going
back up there. There's automatically going to

811
00:58:55,719 --> 00:59:00,599
be someone down in the sand who
doesn't have a star. So that automatically

812
00:59:00,639 --> 00:59:05,840
means that that person who has a
star that they have the potential of winning

813
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:10,079
and stealing someone else's star and giving
it away. But there's because so let's

814
00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:14,519
say Jay won that challenge, if
there's two star holders, if Jay wins,

815
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,079
by default, he takes a loser
star, he cannot steal Adam.

816
00:59:17,159 --> 00:59:21,400
No. I realized that, Yeah, by default he takes, he takes

817
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,400
Steve Starr. But because there is
a star holder, whether it was Leroy

818
00:59:24,559 --> 00:59:30,039
or Steve, if Lee Roy or
Steve won, then Adam Starr is still

819
00:59:30,039 --> 00:59:35,559
at risk. So it doesn't matter
because Jay is going in there no matter

820
00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:38,360
what, because he said at the
elimination or at the challenge, I am

821
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,639
going in. Yeah, it didn't
matter if it was two star holders voted

822
00:59:42,679 --> 00:59:46,199
into that or one star holder voted
into it, because either way, Adam

823
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:51,199
Starr is still going to be at
risk. Yeah, And for me,

824
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,079
the argument is simpler, it's I
don't give a fuck that Adam voted for

825
00:59:54,119 --> 00:59:57,519
Steve, Like that's a game move. And I think that you should be

826
00:59:57,559 --> 01:00:00,679
able to do that, and it's
whatever. It's the hip hop of like

827
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,559
of like, well that's I just
voted for Steve because I had to.

828
01:00:02,639 --> 01:00:06,480
It's a game move. It was
really smart. But when Steve took my

829
01:00:06,559 --> 01:00:10,400
star, fuck that guy, He's
dead to me forever. Like that's yeah,

830
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:15,639
that's the chasm. I can't,
I can't so over the top,

831
01:00:15,079 --> 01:00:20,239
yeah, so over the top.
Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah,

832
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,920
it sums it up. Oh,
Swanny says his hands are it too?

833
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:30,039
I'm outnumbered in the chat room.
I'm out numbered in the chat room.

834
01:00:30,639 --> 01:00:34,960
Mendy says Steve is not hot to
her. I think that's her, Mendy.

835
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,760
I'm sorry if I misgendered. Umm, yeah, I'm out numbered.

836
01:00:39,599 --> 01:00:44,480
Zach. You and I have we
don't have good taste of ment except I

837
01:00:44,559 --> 01:00:49,480
know when a man is a bad
man. Chris mentions I really thought one

838
01:00:49,519 --> 01:00:52,000
of them would injure their legs with
the number of jumps that they did from

839
01:00:52,039 --> 01:00:54,920
the top of that. I agree
with that. Remember a few times where

840
01:00:54,960 --> 01:01:02,280
they landed real hard and my entire
body was I wonder if we're gonna see

841
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,320
something else happened because Steve said something
about like I blew my knees out,

842
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,960
My hammies are burning. I don't
know how I'm gonna finish this. I'm

843
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,880
in trouble. I just wonder if
he might see something in the final where

844
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:21,119
it's like, uh oh Steve's self. Yeah, yeah, we've got Ryan

845
01:01:21,239 --> 01:01:23,599
saying that. Laurel said that Jay
was going Jay going in was his only

846
01:01:23,639 --> 01:01:27,559
rookie move that the entire season.
He played a flawless game up until that

847
01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:30,920
point. I agree, but again, I mean I still stick with he

848
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:38,159
needed to make that move. Yeah, I don't know, are you playing

849
01:01:38,199 --> 01:01:40,199
to win? Are you playing to
come back? And I think he made

850
01:01:40,239 --> 01:01:45,440
the right move to get called back. Well, Zach thought that he was

851
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:49,039
originally going to be making the right
move to win. But yeah, well

852
01:01:49,079 --> 01:01:51,880
the other so the alternative, And
I know, Zach, you're selling it

853
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,800
like, oh, he goes to
the next challenge and he wins his star

854
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:58,559
that way. But let's say he
chickened out this time and then he loses

855
01:01:58,599 --> 01:02:02,440
the purge and he goes home,
like that's embarrassing for Jay. He had

856
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,920
a shot, he didn't take it. He missed his next one. It's

857
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:12,119
like, yeah, he kept saying
he was going to take it, he

858
01:02:12,239 --> 01:02:14,960
didn't take it, and then he
goes home. Yeah, that would be

859
01:02:15,159 --> 01:02:19,760
a shittier move than what he currently
simply to do this. Yes, he

860
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:29,239
had to do this. Yeah,
oh, Ryan. Ryan asked who has

861
01:02:29,239 --> 01:02:31,480
had their star the longest? So
I was actually looking at Wikipedia earlier today.

862
01:02:32,119 --> 01:02:36,599
Steve has actually had his star the
longest. He got his his star

863
01:02:36,679 --> 01:02:39,760
in like episode two or three and
has held it this entire time. I

864
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:44,400
think it was episode three, held
it this entire time. Kara came close,

865
01:02:44,719 --> 01:02:46,280
but she lost her star for an
episode and then she got it back,

866
01:02:46,719 --> 01:02:51,039
so I think total she's tied with
Steve for the number for the number

867
01:02:51,039 --> 01:02:53,280
of weeks that they have had a
star, but Steve has had his consecutively

868
01:02:53,360 --> 01:03:02,519
for the longest. Adam was up
there though. Yeah, Adam's reaction has

869
01:03:02,679 --> 01:03:06,199
made it so he could be recast
as a villain. I agree with that

870
01:03:06,239 --> 01:03:08,920
one as well, and I we'll
see it. Seems like the fans he's

871
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:13,000
not a likable villain. He's not
a Bananas or like a Wes where you

872
01:03:13,119 --> 01:03:15,519
sort of like like him. I
think he's trying to fall into that category,

873
01:03:15,559 --> 01:03:19,960
but it didn't work very well.
He's very unlikable, very unlikable man.

874
01:03:20,719 --> 01:03:23,400
Yeah, same too, because I
don't I don't think she's a fan

875
01:03:23,519 --> 01:03:28,360
favorite, but I think in general, probably the fans would say Avery is

876
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:35,599
likable. And now that we know
that they're like together, yeah, I

877
01:03:35,639 --> 01:03:37,880
know the fans are super into Avery. I don't care about Avery. She's

878
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,760
never made an impression on me.
She doesn't. She still sort of like

879
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,320
barely exists. I don't know.
I know she's there. She's kind of

880
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,719
always been the same person, like, I mean, she'd I did take

881
01:03:46,719 --> 01:03:50,000
a peek at her Instagram the other
day. She doesn't have a hot body,

882
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,000
and good for that woman. She's
a little too skinny for my taste,

883
01:03:52,039 --> 01:03:57,679
but good for her. But yeah, I mean, I just I

884
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:01,639
feel like the challenge is more likely
to catch a couples that people like both

885
01:04:01,679 --> 01:04:05,599
sides of that couple, like Leroy
and Cam. Otherwise they're just gonna pick

886
01:04:05,599 --> 01:04:14,519
one of those sides because no one
wants to. I mean, yeah,

887
01:04:15,079 --> 01:04:18,320
yeah, so oh yeah. And
Flora gets the final words of this entire

888
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:24,119
episode by saying that Ace is playing. First, she says Ace is playing

889
01:04:24,159 --> 01:04:27,719
a super smart game because this is
the second time Ace has been gifted a

890
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:33,320
star, and then she says that. She follows it up almost immediately with

891
01:04:33,719 --> 01:04:38,639
but no one respects his game.
Okay, but he's playing a super smart

892
01:04:38,679 --> 01:04:43,280
game. So doesn't that mean that
you kind of respect this game if you're

893
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:47,360
calling it smart. Yeah, she's
got some weird takes, and she just

894
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:51,159
she pops in and says this bullshit
and then disappears for the entire like she

895
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:56,119
was completely not there for the entire
episode. Popped in and said some bullshit.

896
01:04:56,239 --> 01:04:59,239
Yeah, I mean the entire season. I don't understand why they cast

897
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:06,280
her on this season. You the
ultimate fluff player? Yeahtfecionals maybe one in

898
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:11,039
like episode two. We've had this
conversation too. Yeah, yeah, it's

899
01:05:11,079 --> 01:05:14,000
still to you two episodes ago.
I like her though, I like her,

900
01:05:14,679 --> 01:05:15,679
Zach, you like Flora. Flora
is a good choice, right,

901
01:05:16,119 --> 01:05:19,039
No, I have on my fantasy
team. I'm begging to get rid of

902
01:05:19,079 --> 01:05:25,920
her. I want off my team. Oh man, you're stuck forever stuck

903
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,519
for her. Well, speaking of
teams, is it time to go over

904
01:05:28,599 --> 01:05:33,719
our rankings? Yeah, so we
can go over fantasy teams. I fucking

905
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:39,079
get it pulled up. There we
go. Uh so, in the public

906
01:05:39,199 --> 01:05:44,159
lead whatever, stove is still in
the first place question. It look at

907
01:05:44,159 --> 01:05:46,760
that fucking guy. Yeah, with
ten to fifty six points? All right,

908
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:55,239
fifty six points, but coming in
real, real close second is ct

909
01:05:55,440 --> 01:06:00,320
for the win, Katrina, She's
got one and forty five points. There's

910
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:05,559
only and this last episode was not
a very high scoring episode. Like the

911
01:06:05,599 --> 01:06:10,760
most that anyone got I think was
like fifty or sixty points per player.

912
01:06:11,719 --> 01:06:15,199
I think so mostach in the bottom
of our barrels of players. Most most

913
01:06:15,239 --> 01:06:18,320
people in this last episode were around
that, like seventy five mark for the

914
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,840
number of points that they got.
And then third place, there's there's a

915
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:26,639
pretty decent gap between second and third. Third place is what what's eight times

916
01:06:26,719 --> 01:06:32,360
nine with eight nine and eighty four. Zachi Bananas is in sixth with nine

917
01:06:32,519 --> 01:06:36,639
forty five, I'm in seventh with
nine thirty five, Big Uncle Sweet teas

918
01:06:36,639 --> 01:06:44,679
in tenth with eight eighty and Wolfe
is in twentyeth with seven seven thirty five.

919
01:06:45,079 --> 01:06:47,079
I gotta be honest with you,
guys, I'm feeling pretty good about

920
01:06:47,079 --> 01:06:49,239
my the last two weeks of this
game. I have a lot of good

921
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:54,280
players left. I have many star
holders, easily clearing the final with a

922
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,599
full roster players. What about you
guys. Yes, I think, I

923
01:06:57,599 --> 01:07:00,880
think I'm okay. I've saved a
few people. I've saved I've saved at

924
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:05,800
least one for a few different people, specifically to because I think that they're

925
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:10,440
gonna be in the end. I
yeah, I still have Car. I

926
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:16,360
save Laurel. I sta have Nicole. Fuck off, Zach. I mean

927
01:07:16,599 --> 01:07:19,719
I think I have everyone left.
I've never like there's no one left in

928
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:24,760
the game. I don't have left. I have every player left. Oh

929
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:29,000
really, yeah, I have ever
player left too. Such a strategy where

930
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,159
like so we started with three uses
each. I got everyone down to two

931
01:07:32,199 --> 01:07:36,559
before I reused a single person,
so I never used someone more than once

932
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:41,360
until everyone had gone at least once. That's smart. I ran out of

933
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:45,960
Nicole and Laurel. Oh you used
them up early. Yeah, I'm out.

934
01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:47,519
Yeah, I'm out of those.
But I have two. I have

935
01:07:47,559 --> 01:07:50,880
so many star holders. I got
two Aces left, I got two LeRoy's,

936
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:55,840
I got two Veronica's, two Steve's. I'm off set. I'm like,

937
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,480
I have one Car, and I'm
I want Car to win the whole

938
01:07:58,519 --> 01:08:00,719
thing. I'm saving my car U
till the end. Car. I'm counting

939
01:08:00,719 --> 01:08:04,360
on you. I shouldn't tell you
ays that because now you're gonna do the

940
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:08,760
same thing. But I know,
I mean, I'll probably tie to if

941
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,840
I can try to do like Carl, Laurel Nicole is my final week if

942
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:19,840
they're all there. Yeah, this
has been fun. I really I've enjoyed

943
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:24,640
this league more than I thought I
would. Should we go over the host

944
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:30,640
league, I'm out? But you
three? Yeah? Yeah, Zach,

945
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:34,520
you want to give the your points
and I can give the online ones.

946
01:08:35,039 --> 01:08:40,840
Sure thing, all right? And
last place is Tim point out with twenty

947
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:46,520
three points as Tim third, going
up a little bit as Wolfie with forty,

948
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:53,359
and then the top two still no
change. Carlin is in second at

949
01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:57,560
seventy seven and I am in first
at eighty eight. Yeah, we pretty

950
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,159
much played this week. We both
had someone win the child Lenge, but

951
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:05,680
one more person going to the Bomb
three than she did. But promise Carlin

952
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:11,720
had her winner then throw himself into
uh the elimination and lose. Oh yeah,

953
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,640
Jay left. I didn't even realize
that I had jam my team he

954
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:18,600
did. Yeah, and then the
my other my other four players that were

955
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:23,640
all Star holders, So I'm okay
with that. I have Leroy, Nicole,

956
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,920
Ace, and Veronica. Oh man, you're all set, You're all

957
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:30,079
set. Yeah, Zach still has
not lost a single player. I have

958
01:09:30,239 --> 01:09:34,199
not begging for like a month and
a half to lose Floor. Will someone

959
01:09:34,199 --> 01:09:41,159
please beat Floor? Already? She's
gonna win the whole thing, the final.

960
01:09:41,199 --> 01:09:46,720
She's a layup. How if she
won the whole that'd be great,

961
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,840
that'd be great. I'm gonna have
to reconsider ever watching the show again.

962
01:09:50,520 --> 01:10:00,640
Yeah, that'd be better than well. Well, and Manuel actually like proved

963
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,880
himself in challenges. He actually did
pretty well in all of those. Flora

964
01:10:04,079 --> 01:10:13,039
just is wallpaper like the woods with
either Flora or I'm not going there.

965
01:10:13,079 --> 01:10:16,319
We're not having that conversation. We're
not going to be this seving. But

966
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,000
manwell, to me at least,
is like someone that can stand up there

967
01:10:19,039 --> 01:10:21,920
with like west seed, he bananas, and I can look him and go

968
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,520
like, yeah, he looks like
he can hang with them, Like he

969
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:32,840
looks physically fit enough. All right, Well I have some fun feedback this

970
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,520
week. Yeah, all right,
So there are two things. So first

971
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:40,439
one I only saw just a little
while ago, and it was because Tim

972
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:48,159
posted a picture on the Instagram and
we have just uncomfortable me said that they

973
01:10:48,279 --> 01:10:51,520
love the pod and he doesn't.
They don't even watch the season, they

974
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:56,199
just listen to the pod and they're
playing the fantasy game, and that they

975
01:10:56,239 --> 01:11:00,399
actually canceled their Paramount Plus subscription just
before the season started. So I think

976
01:11:00,399 --> 01:11:04,000
that's that's pretty fun. But we've
had we've had a weirdly high amount of

977
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,399
people say, oh, I don't
even watch the show anymore. Just listen

978
01:11:06,399 --> 01:11:10,920
to you guys. And that's that's
what super fucked up, Tim. Whenever

979
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,439
you say, oh, well everything's
watched this, I don't have to explain

980
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,239
no, no, no. It
is for those people that we have to

981
01:11:15,239 --> 01:11:18,239
explain the games because that this podcast
weird. I can't believe people listened to

982
01:11:18,239 --> 01:11:26,600
this, that it was weird.
Only listen to this podcast the challenge.

983
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,680
But there's definitely been times like Survivor
Our Big Brother, Why just get too

984
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,880
busy to keep up watching, So
I'll just like listen to recap podcast and

985
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:39,520
tell me what happened. Oh yeah, okay, but this this is the

986
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:44,800
fun feedback. So a few weeks
ago, we had our number one fan,

987
01:11:45,039 --> 01:11:50,800
Michelle Yay, posted on Spotify a
bunch of like this podcast is awful.

988
01:11:51,039 --> 01:11:57,520
I can't believe judgmental. These people
are. Michelle found us on Instagram.

989
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,800
Oh send us a message. So
her message is, I'm your hate

990
01:12:02,279 --> 01:12:06,680
listener, and I am glad that
you're amused by my bitchy comments and appreciate

991
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:11,760
you not getting butt hurt. I
may not agree with you, but I

992
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:15,279
will angrily support you and hate listen
because you're challenged fans. All right,

993
01:12:15,359 --> 01:12:18,960
I actually did listen to a bunch
of your episodes in one day whilst at

994
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:24,960
work, just listening to the last
two and thought that i'd send a message

995
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:29,119
on here. Don't worry, I'll
still angry comments. Love it, Love

996
01:12:29,159 --> 01:12:33,279
it, Michelle. Please continue to
love having angry, angry comments. If

997
01:12:33,319 --> 01:12:36,520
you go in, please please give
us five stars. You can put as

998
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:41,560
many angry comments as you want with
your five stars. But it's fun and

999
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,399
they're going to have We're going to
have people with different opinions. Yeah,

1000
01:12:44,399 --> 01:12:48,720
okay with that. And occasionally,
Michelle, we do callin shows we need

1001
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:54,640
to call up and like puss us
out on it. Please please, guys,

1002
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,560
I think we are We roll with
the criticism better than most podcasts.

1003
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:01,199
Love it, we thrive on it. Yes, anything anything insult us and

1004
01:13:01,239 --> 01:13:05,319
I'm also a hate watcher of stuff. I relate to that impulse of continue

1005
01:13:05,359 --> 01:13:10,680
to watch even though it's awful and
I hate it. Oh, I get

1006
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:15,159
it. Hi, Michelle? Is
that Michelle Fitzgerald is Survivor winner? I

1007
01:13:15,199 --> 01:13:18,760
was about to say how many idea? She called Michelle Fitzgerald. Oh,

1008
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:23,039
man, that'd be amazing. I
have no idea because I don't watch Survivor.

1009
01:13:23,079 --> 01:13:30,560
So maybe Survivor she's from I che
l Michelle, you know what?

1010
01:13:31,359 --> 01:13:36,199
Yeah? What L? But I
don't know it's gonna be. Oh Michelle.

1011
01:13:36,199 --> 01:13:40,399
That was on last season. Michelle, it's not her. So I

1012
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:44,159
will be meeting Michelle this weekend,
so I will ask her if she's our

1013
01:13:44,199 --> 01:13:48,760
hater? Yes, please, yes, it might be. It might be?

1014
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:54,079
And did we also get an Instagram
message wishing a happy birthday? Carling?

1015
01:13:54,199 --> 01:13:57,840
Was it your birthday? Yeah?
My birthday was on Wednesday? Happy

1016
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:02,560
birthday? Yesterday? Yes, yesterday, six five. That's easy to remember.

1017
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:06,279
I like easy to remember birthdays.
Six five yep. I turned.

1018
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:12,319
I went to trivia and the guys
asked me if I turned twelve, and

1019
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:18,439
I said yes, plus twenty five
thirty seven over the hill, Carlyn is

1020
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:23,560
now the age that I was when
we started this podcast. How does that

1021
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,960
make you feel, Carlyn? Well, there we go. Makes me feel

1022
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,960
like a baby now in my mid
forties. So I remember my thirties.

1023
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,600
Those were good days. It goes
so fast. Forty are you forty?

1024
01:14:35,119 --> 01:14:40,680
I turned forty in February. For
some reason, I thought you were younger

1025
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:45,840
than Carlin. All right, forty, I'm the baby. The baby,

1026
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:49,119
I'll take it. Well. Because
the man says that he that Flora has

1027
01:14:49,159 --> 01:14:53,760
no idea what's going on. Her
opinion on gameplay means absolutely nothing to me.

1028
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:59,720
Chris is Flora's garbage, and Mindy
says can't wait to see Flora get

1029
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:08,800
per just Riot says home Perch forever, hopefully. But Chris is thirty seven

1030
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,520
in a row, which is the
best comment of the night. Tim You're

1031
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,880
very obviously outnumbered. Yeah, I'm
out with the Steve thing. I would

1032
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,159
date Steve. I think Steve's a
good looking dude. I think a little

1033
01:15:19,159 --> 01:15:26,279
weird whatever. All right, well
are we doing? What else do you

1034
01:15:26,359 --> 01:15:29,800
have to do? Zach? Is
there social media stuff? There's some stuff?

1035
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:35,079
So first off, we have two
Instagram confirmed relationships from season forty.

1036
01:15:35,119 --> 01:15:41,920
Do we want to discuss those?
Sure? Uh, well, okay,

1037
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,439
so you don't happy birthday guys.
So I will say we we don't consider

1038
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:51,479
casting spoilers on this show, but
I think forty like oh from season forty,

1039
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,760
I thought you meant this season?
No? Season four? Yeah,

1040
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,239
should wait for the pre I feel
like we should maybe wait for the preview

1041
01:15:57,279 --> 01:15:59,920
show for those that don't want to
hear those players, all right, so

1042
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:04,640
we won't talk about those. So
we had two interviews this week on different

1043
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:10,199
podcasts that we had some interesting stuff. First off, Ryan was on Zach

1044
01:16:10,279 --> 01:16:13,720
Nichol's podcast this week, Ryan,
you better have said something good for us.

1045
01:16:14,039 --> 01:16:17,199
Well, here's what I find interesting
is he claims the last week Laurel

1046
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:23,239
Ryan are Ryan in the chat room, Ryan, that Laura wanted to go

1047
01:16:23,279 --> 01:16:27,640
in against car for that challenge.
Is actually Ryan and Nicole that like yelled

1048
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,640
at her and told her do not
do this. This is stupid. You

1049
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,920
need to stay out. I don't
fucking care if Ryan and Nicole yelled at

1050
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:38,520
her. Laurel should have had the
fucking backbone like she has every other time

1051
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:43,039
she has said shit like this.
If someone else, if Caara, if

1052
01:16:43,159 --> 01:16:47,520
Caara had been in Laurel's position and
had been told by the person she's hooking

1053
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,640
up with and another friend of hers
in the house, no, don't do

1054
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:55,199
it, don't go in, don't
put yourself down there. Laurel would have

1055
01:16:55,319 --> 01:17:00,920
flipped shit. She would have said
endless bullshit about Kara and how shitty Carra

1056
01:17:01,159 --> 01:17:04,840
is and how much of a pussy
Carra is and how much of a chicken

1057
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:09,359
Shitkrra is. Laurrel, you never
would have heard the end of it.

1058
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:13,880
I don't care that Nicole and Ryan
said that she should go, she should

1059
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:20,800
stay. That is a bullshit answer. All right, yeah, all right.

1060
01:17:21,039 --> 01:17:26,880
And then apparently I'm in heat again
this week. Yeah, okay uh.

1061
01:17:27,119 --> 01:17:30,840
And then we had Cam this week
on the Death, Taxes and Bananas

1062
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:34,039
podcast and she was talking something about
the car says, so we have some

1063
01:17:34,039 --> 01:17:41,159
more insight from Cam's version of why
everyone hated Kara. And apparently, you

1064
01:17:41,159 --> 01:17:45,039
know, once some people start going
against car Carr went around the house telling

1065
01:17:45,079 --> 01:17:47,800
people like, I understand your targeting
me. Just admit on camera, I'm

1066
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,039
smarter than you, I'm stronger than
you, I'm better than you, and

1067
01:17:50,079 --> 01:17:53,479
you are afraid of me. And
she's like, that's when pill turned against

1068
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:57,079
Carara because a car wanted everyone in
the house should admit like you are superior

1069
01:17:57,119 --> 01:18:00,359
to us, we fear you,
and they're like, we're not for you.

1070
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,600
Okay, I can understand that.
I really do wonder whether Kara actually

1071
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:09,520
said it in as many words.
Yes, I think there are probably two

1072
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,399
sides that's right, and I will
for I will always love Kara, like

1073
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:16,880
I realized that my bias is coming
out there. Yes, but I honestly,

1074
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,199
I think a big part of this
is that one Cam has butt hurt

1075
01:18:20,239 --> 01:18:27,479
about being beaten by Kara in an
elimination when Cam is killing Cam. Yeah,

1076
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:31,600
And two I do think that she
is scared of going in against Carra

1077
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:35,239
because I do think that Cara is
better than her in a lot of things.

1078
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:41,359
Yeah, car just beat her.
She just beat her, and Cam

1079
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:44,119
was very clearly scared to go against
her, and that's why she was trying

1080
01:18:44,119 --> 01:18:46,600
to convince Laura to take her spot, and like it would, it was

1081
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:51,119
just clear I don't have much respect
for Cam's sort of physical game in that

1082
01:18:51,159 --> 01:18:55,439
way. Yeah, I will give
Cam tiny bag right because she did admit

1083
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,920
with the whole the Flora vote where
you know, if he got Matt Carr

1084
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,239
for not voting along with her She's
like, yeah, like there's no reason

1085
01:19:01,239 --> 01:19:04,479
card Neate to vote with me.
I was just being petty, like that

1086
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:08,560
was the whole riberry, Like that
was what set up the whole ribery for

1087
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,560
the whole season. And yes,
it was petty and meaningless and Cam shouldn't

1088
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:15,800
have done it so because that was
the whole thing though, because like if

1089
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,600
you married that before that happened,
there was a blow up between Flora and

1090
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:24,680
Cam that didn't get no. Ayana
and Cam, they're like, dank is

1091
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:29,319
shown, No, we saw it. Apparently they're they're saying that there's stuff

1092
01:19:29,319 --> 01:19:32,199
that Dank is shown, like how
how bad it got? Yeah, where

1093
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:38,039
she was talking about someone was not
black enough and all that, Yeah,

1094
01:19:38,039 --> 01:19:41,359
we we talked about that. It
didn't get shown, but it was it

1095
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:45,239
was spoken about. I think that's
the Aana and Janelle thing, was not

1096
01:19:45,359 --> 01:19:49,880
black enough because Janelle wash that's right. But no, apparently there was one

1097
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:55,039
with Cam as well, and apparently
like Cam was very like distraught, was

1098
01:19:55,079 --> 01:19:58,880
crying in bed and she's like every
single person came up consoled me, Are

1099
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:00,600
you okay? Carl laid in the
bed across the room for me. Never

1100
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,199
once as if I was Okay,
never once checked. I mean just had

1101
01:20:03,359 --> 01:20:10,439
you know, her eyes covered and
like completely ignored it. Honestly, I

1102
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:14,359
and I don't mean this to sound
as harsh as going to I kind of

1103
01:20:14,399 --> 01:20:18,800
wonder if Kara has like a like
autism or something which feels weird to say,

1104
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:23,640
but like she's she's sort of bullied
and ostracized in the same way that

1105
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:28,560
Curtly Frieses who admitted that she had
autism. And we've seen both of them

1106
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:32,359
be like extremely sort of awkward in
certain situations, and we've seen it what

1107
01:20:32,399 --> 01:20:36,560
to do years Yeah, I could. I could see Cara being sort of

1108
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:41,800
overwhelmed and not sort of knowing what
to say or do in that situation,

1109
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:46,399
so not doing anything. I mean
the other part is I think I said

1110
01:20:46,399 --> 01:20:50,039
this a few weeks ago, Like
it's it's very obvious. Yeah, it

1111
01:20:50,119 --> 01:20:54,840
was when when Cara and Laurel were
when Laurel was trying to kind of pretend

1112
01:20:54,840 --> 01:21:00,479
to be Cary's friend. Again,
like Carra very obviously has a like an

1113
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:10,479
abandonment complex, And I mean it's
you can kind of tell that she doesn't

1114
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,239
want to be involved in conflict.
You can tell that she doesn't want to

1115
01:21:13,239 --> 01:21:17,439
be abandoned by anybody, Like there
have been multiple seasons where she has just

1116
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:23,399
gone off by herself, and like
there's the famous scene of her going off

1117
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:28,119
and sitting by herself at a club
while everybody else is over there talking shit

1118
01:21:28,159 --> 01:21:30,159
about her, and it's because she
just she doesn't she doesn't want to be

1119
01:21:30,199 --> 01:21:33,840
around these people. So I'm not
at all surprised that she hit her face

1120
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:41,479
and looked away when Ayana was talking
shit, Like it's I don't feel like

1121
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:45,119
that's worthy of Cam being that mad
at her, Like, yeah, I

1122
01:21:45,119 --> 01:21:47,439
agree, there was that other one. I can't remember what challenge it was,

1123
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:51,520
but remember they were on the beach
and she just was totally by herself,

1124
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:56,520
like drawing in the sand because it
was it feels like she gets overwhelmed

1125
01:21:56,520 --> 01:22:00,800
by social situations and she isolates number
one, Like Jordan propose to Tory,

1126
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:02,760
she did the same thing. Like, I just wonder if there's like sort

1127
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:06,600
of something personality wise there that people
are not comfortable with. But she just

1128
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:15,239
is sort of awkward and weird and
Amber Amber b is curly fries yeap ye.

1129
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,279
And then the other the other big
thing Cam said that she claims is

1130
01:22:18,319 --> 01:22:21,880
Eliza or the car lide about is
that you know, they were thinking like,

1131
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:25,199
oh, when we get to the
final and might be a situation where

1132
01:22:25,199 --> 01:22:29,479
like you have to run different sections
with different people, And she was going

1133
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:31,399
around the house. I was telling
people like, oh, Leroy and Cam

1134
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:35,239
have a plan that like let's say
Leroy is like leading that like Cam like

1135
01:22:35,279 --> 01:22:40,880
around the halfway point, will just
start purfoctly throwing in like hurting her male

1136
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:45,079
partners to like make sure they get
horrible times so that way Leroy could win.

1137
01:22:45,199 --> 01:22:47,800
So we gotta split them up.
See that's one of those things we're

1138
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:56,119
like. So Ryan says in here
in the chat room to the initial comment

1139
01:22:56,279 --> 01:22:59,000
of Kara saying, you know,
go talk, go say these things have

1140
01:22:59,079 --> 01:23:01,399
camera. Why would Kara say that
what does it do for her? Cara

1141
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,560
is aware of her brand brand now
more than ever and that he doesn't believe

1142
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:08,119
it. And I kind of think
that this falls into that same thing of

1143
01:23:08,119 --> 01:23:13,159
like that sounds like something that Kara
probably was having a conversation with like Ace

1144
01:23:13,399 --> 01:23:18,359
or J of like, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if Cam and

1145
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:23,439
Leroy had this, like had thought
about this potential plan, because then it

1146
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:28,319
would kind of guarantee one of them
a win, and I think Cam would

1147
01:23:28,359 --> 01:23:32,000
be more likely to sacrifice her own
game to get to get Leroy that win.

1148
01:23:32,399 --> 01:23:35,600
Like I can I could see that
being the conversation, but I don't

1149
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:40,560
see Kara like wandering around the house
and being like, oh, yeah,

1150
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:45,079
did you hear Cam and Leroy have
this have this plan of like they're gonna

1151
01:23:45,199 --> 01:23:47,560
they're gonna throw. Cam's gonna make
it to the final with him, and

1152
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:51,600
then she's gonna start throwing the final
so that Lero wins. Like I don't

1153
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:56,479
see her doing that. Yeah,
no, I agree. I I mean,

1154
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,920
I'm I'm Keem Carr and all this. I've never been a big Cam

1155
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,640
fan, so I listened with the
grain of salt, thinking like, I

1156
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:10,359
don't know if I believe what Cam's
saying. Yeah, uh yeah, we

1157
01:24:10,399 --> 01:24:15,319
have one other thing. Yeah.
The other thing was with the Ayana thing,

1158
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:19,039
Like I don't understand why Cam feels
like she needs to have cars stand

1159
01:24:19,119 --> 01:24:24,880
up for when Cam has her husband
in the house and has obviously gotten most

1160
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:30,039
of the house to rally with her, like they just all of this is

1161
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,640
odd to me, but whatever,
And I get it by don't like,

1162
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:38,520
I'm you could correct me if I'm
wrong Carlin. But like if some guy

1163
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:40,720
was going off at you, if
we were like out in public, and

1164
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,560
like Wolfy like stood up for you, but me and Tim just kind of

1165
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,600
stood on the side and like watched
him do it and didn't like interject.

1166
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,800
You won't be like, well,
it's okay, one of my people did

1167
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:50,159
it for me, So like I'm
not gonna say that shit. I'm gonna

1168
01:24:50,159 --> 01:24:55,600
tell Wolfie thank you. But and
I might like ras the two of you,

1169
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,000
but I'm not gonna be like,
oh my god, I can't believe

1170
01:24:58,279 --> 01:25:02,840
like we're our friendship is rever broken. I agree, like, okay,

1171
01:25:03,079 --> 01:25:05,800
so stand up like and on top
of that, Cam is a strong woman

1172
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:11,239
who has no problem getting in the
face of anybody. So to think that

1173
01:25:11,279 --> 01:25:14,600
she needs to have, like even
if she's crying, to think that she

1174
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:18,760
needs to have Carra stand up for
her is just like, but would you

1175
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,600
do that for Kara? And why
do you feel like you need that?

1176
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:26,880
Yeah? It just it's it all
rubs me the wrong way. The fact

1177
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:32,880
that it feels like bathtub Cam.
It feels like Cam feeling really entitled,

1178
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:36,640
and it just it all rubs me, you know, the small card,

1179
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:42,479
I'll get She's like, I was
being very petty, Like I realized stupid,

1180
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,520
but I was being petty. I'm
glad she sees the insight, but

1181
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:50,000
the pettiness is what started the conflict
for the whole season. So that's like,

1182
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:55,359
that's what's behind the whole season.
So she's ready to own that part.

1183
01:25:55,399 --> 01:25:59,199
She needs to own that she started
it, you know. Yeah.

1184
01:25:59,239 --> 01:26:00,439
Her argument is that the eye on
the thing happened first. And she's like,

1185
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:04,079
if Kara had just like taking her
math out petty, like you good,

1186
01:26:04,159 --> 01:26:06,760
Cam and Cam of like, yeah, I'll be okay, she'd like

1187
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:11,079
cool. But the fact that they
are ignored me. And but that's the

1188
01:26:11,159 --> 01:26:15,479
thing that's still a petty thing.
Yeah, it's just a petty thing that

1189
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,239
we didn't see. And the petty
thing that we did see is what we

1190
01:26:18,319 --> 01:26:21,159
think is the thing that said it
all up. Like either way, all

1191
01:26:21,199 --> 01:26:24,720
of these things are petty. Yeah. I agree with what you said,

1192
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:28,760
Carlin about her. Just the entitled
version of Cam drives me nuts. I

1193
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:30,640
think I would like Cam a lot
as a human, as a friend,

1194
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:33,640
as a neighbor, I think I
would really like her. During these shows,

1195
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:39,760
she drives me fucking crazy. With
the hypocrisy and the entitlement, and

1196
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:44,000
like how she picked a fight with
Carra up for nothing for all fucking season.

1197
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,079
It's these little cam things that are
just sort of like, I just

1198
01:26:47,079 --> 01:26:49,840
don't know about it. I just
don't I just don't know I agree with

1199
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:55,760
all of that. Yeah, So
anyway, we have one more review from

1200
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:59,199
our best friend Ryan, who's in
the chat room right now. It is

1201
01:26:59,239 --> 01:27:02,319
the longest review I think we've ever
gotten, so I think Ryan submitted it

1202
01:27:02,359 --> 01:27:09,000
to so he could realize what a
poor, poor reader I am. So

1203
01:27:09,159 --> 01:27:15,279
congratulations Ryan, mission accomplished, he
says, five star review. Obviously talented

1204
01:27:15,279 --> 01:27:18,640
team gives an exceptional podcast experience.
What an awesome time. Although a couple

1205
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:21,159
of the voices have changed over the
years, the tag team of Wolfe and

1206
01:27:21,199 --> 01:27:26,479
Big Uncle Sweetee hold it down.
Although no Wolfe this week, I drive

1207
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:30,119
my favorite podcast on the planet.
The newest editions of Zach and Carlon have

1208
01:27:30,159 --> 01:27:32,319
been fun and brought some different perspectives
into the mix. I can't say I

1209
01:27:32,319 --> 01:27:35,119
always agree with you knuckleheads, but
I do enjoy hearing what y'all have to

1210
01:27:35,159 --> 01:27:40,159
say. Sometimes I go back in
time in my mind. Oh my god,

1211
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:45,960
couch pilots, throwback and re listen
to old episodes when I rewatch a

1212
01:27:45,039 --> 01:27:48,159
challenge season. Why don't people re
listen to these episodes? Ryan? Please

1213
01:27:48,199 --> 01:27:54,920
don't? They're fun? They still
hold a companion. Yeah, guys,

1214
01:27:55,560 --> 01:28:00,640
I'm only like a third of the
way through this. Still hold up.

1215
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:04,920
But hearing Amanda cackle throws me hong
kong honk. Things I need more of.

1216
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:10,439
Number one things that frustrate. Wolfy
and Tim discussed oh my gosh,

1217
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:14,800
example of makeup application, stupid people, old friends who were dumb, and

1218
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:20,720
ex wives. I think we've handled
most of those so far. Wolfy wrestling

1219
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:25,560
talk. Let's start a podcast,
Wolfee another person when I just started?

1220
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:30,640
You and George and Ryan apparently Yeah, George, Zach's behind the scene info

1221
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:34,199
and conversations with the challengers. Maybe
an in between season where we can ask

1222
01:28:34,319 --> 01:28:38,600
Zach questions. Speaking of Zach,
my gosh, Zach, you're getting a

1223
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:42,119
lot of love, some gross,
some kind of eating challenge every after show.

1224
01:28:42,119 --> 01:28:45,760
I agree with that. Carlin,
can you keep keeping the boys in

1225
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:50,720
line and take your shirt off?
Ryan, I'm inappropriate before you, although

1226
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:55,319
I did enjoy the grossness of it
is Oh my god, is that a

1227
01:28:55,359 --> 01:28:58,319
real question. This is this is
where my poor reading breaks down. Guys

1228
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:03,079
before you, although I did enjoy
the grossness that is men when the pod

1229
01:29:03,199 --> 01:29:06,119
was all dudes, you have policed
this back to a nice balance. Keep

1230
01:29:06,159 --> 01:29:11,880
being you well. Thanks more Collins. I agree, Ryan, I miss

1231
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:15,239
talking to you. We miss you
too, some kind of live event yep.

1232
01:29:15,359 --> 01:29:18,439
Agree. Never quit the pod,
no matter how annoying, no matter

1233
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:24,640
how many seasons you two keep doing
the pod. We'll see for all the

1234
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:27,239
fun over the years. I thoroughly
enjoy you guys. Like so many have

1235
01:29:27,319 --> 01:29:30,960
said, listening to the podcast is
like talking to my friends about the show.

1236
01:29:30,039 --> 01:29:32,680
I never miss an episode. Even
if I can't listen live and chat,

1237
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,319
We'll always be a listener and always
be a supporter. Keep it up

1238
01:29:35,359 --> 01:29:39,680
yours always, Ryan, Thank you, Ryan, You're the best. Oh

1239
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:42,640
thanks Ryan. That was very a
sweet of you, very nice little love

1240
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:46,199
letter. If anybody else would like
to leave a ten paragraph, uh five

1241
01:29:46,279 --> 01:29:50,479
star review, we will happily,
happily happily read it on air. We

1242
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:54,920
will make sure that Tim reads all
of them. I was just about to

1243
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:57,279
say anything longer than this. I
think I'm gonna have to pass this one

1244
01:29:57,319 --> 01:30:00,279
off. To somebody else. I'm
used to read little kid books and ship

1245
01:30:00,359 --> 01:30:05,279
guys. Come on, and we'll
keep this going forever. And if we

1246
01:30:05,359 --> 01:30:08,840
don't, then you know, Lost
is coming to Netflix, so we'll be

1247
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:13,319
Lost with Carlin. Such a good
show. Well, and apparently Tim and

1248
01:30:13,359 --> 01:30:19,000
I are start are turning this into
a dating reality show. I don't know,

1249
01:30:19,039 --> 01:30:26,279
maybe dated. I'm down. Let's
do it. Let's do it.

1250
01:30:26,399 --> 01:30:29,840
Just a short flight between Peoria and
Minneapolis. We have we have, we

1251
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,920
have a dedicated airplane. Yeah,
I have to figure out something to do

1252
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:36,279
with the dog. I can't just
like leave her here to fend for herself,

1253
01:30:36,359 --> 01:30:40,039
so I'll just go to you.
That's fine, perfect free. I'm

1254
01:30:40,039 --> 01:30:45,159
free every other weekend. And I'm
far enough that I'm not gonna just pop

1255
01:30:45,159 --> 01:30:49,319
into your house. Thank Christ.
What a night. I'm way close to

1256
01:30:49,399 --> 01:30:54,239
Australia, like, way closer.
I think. I think as long as

1257
01:30:54,279 --> 01:30:57,600
you can never get married, this
works out. Oh don't worry, I'm

1258
01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:03,039
unmarriable. Not gonna happen. All
right. We went to the social media

1259
01:31:03,079 --> 01:31:06,239
stuff, Zach, right, didn't
we do that? I think that's everything,

1260
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:10,319
all right, Patrion, Hey join
the Patreon. It's awesome. With

1261
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:14,000
the discord has been firing up,
lighting up. Steve's in there. I

1262
01:31:14,039 --> 01:31:16,239
post these custom songs that are really
fun. I am going to play today's

1263
01:31:16,279 --> 01:31:20,239
custom song. Maybe I'll I'll play
that now. It's a little bed.

1264
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:26,039
Yeah, it sounds like blakel too. I know. I want the pop

1265
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:32,880
pop punk next to Adam wrote this
song. These are Steve's quotes all I'm

1266
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:45,600
sorry Adams, Okay, yeah,
good way into really good. But hey,

1267
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:48,119
listen, thanks for listening to challenge. I don't have a sign off,

1268
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:55,079
but you know what we'll find to
you next week. Chatter, hang

1269
01:31:55,119 --> 01:31:59,880
out, we'll do an after show
guys again, a minute, one another, then