1 00:00:15,519 --> 00:00:20,719 What is crack Lack and fellow thermonuclear a efforts. I am Dan for Valley, 2 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,280 coming at you solo to talk some blockbuster NBA trade assets before we get 3 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,519 started. To use reminder, please remember to subscribe to us wherever you consume 4 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:33,320 US podcast players, rating, ratings and reviews. Help on Apple Spotify as 5 00:00:33,359 --> 00:00:35,799 well. Subscribe to us on YouTube. If it is your first time checking 6 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,000 us out, like comment, help the algorithm, love us back, join 7 00:00:39,079 --> 00:00:41,520 our discord. The link to that is in the YouTube description. We have 8 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,600 a new YouTube shorts channel out called MBA Absurd Stats. I need to link 9 00:00:45,679 --> 00:00:48,640 that added to our social links. 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So I'll throw it up on the screen, 18 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,359 trying a different layout if people are on YouTube, but let me know 19 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,120 if it's it's like less clean looking. But I feel like, don't you 20 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,920 want to see my face? A little bit more than the actual article itself. 21 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,959 So I wrote about every NBA team's best blockbuster asset entering the twenty twenty 22 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,640 three deadline, and the concept here is and I end up writing like five 23 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,359 hundred words about how I went about this. Is the scenario that we're operating 24 00:01:40,439 --> 00:01:45,040 under. Is that your favorite MBA team, I don't care whether they actually 25 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,719 would or not, but your favorite NBA team is choosing to aggressively pursue a 26 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:53,719 blockbuster trade ahead of the February ninth deadline that actively improves it's roster. They 27 00:01:53,719 --> 00:01:57,599 are buyers, in other words, knowing this what is the most valuable player 28 00:01:57,799 --> 00:02:02,120 or asset they should be willing to move in order to make that trade happen. 29 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,079 And it's an element of oh, would they have to move? But 30 00:02:06,519 --> 00:02:10,360 I tried to create or maintain an element of realism here, and so the 31 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:15,879 process that goes into it is not every team is currently looking for that star 32 00:02:15,199 --> 00:02:19,599 level player, like that's just something we know, and you're also just going 33 00:02:19,599 --> 00:02:23,599 to be the determinations we're going to try and stay in characters since we're breaking 34 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,759 character for a lot of them anyway. And by this I mean the Orlando 35 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,560 Magic. They're not going to trade Palo Bank Caro, the Spurs are not 36 00:02:29,599 --> 00:02:32,080 trading their own first rounder when they've already pre ordered the Victor when the Yama 37 00:02:32,199 --> 00:02:36,879 Jerseys. But other calls are less obvious to make, and so some of 38 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,759 them that I ran into throughout this process. Would the King's trade Keegan Murray, 39 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:44,719 Would the Pacers trade ben Nick Mathrin? Would Orlando consider shipping out one 40 00:02:44,719 --> 00:02:46,840 of its own first round or so on and so forth? And that's what's 41 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:52,159 the push and pull of trying to do this exercise, was what would realistically 42 00:02:52,159 --> 00:02:54,319 be on the table if this is what teams were doing. And I might 43 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,879 have actually fallen too far on the conservative end, but because I was breaking 44 00:02:59,319 --> 00:03:00,520 character for some many teams and saying, you know what, the magic, 45 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,680 we're going to operate as if they're trying to a star but comes available by 46 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,639 the deadline, and that's something you know, there's not really a readily star 47 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,560 available. People are watching the Raptors, they're wondering about Bradley Beal and Zach 48 00:03:09,599 --> 00:03:15,080 Lavine. I'm not even endorsing that teams should be going after a blockbuster trade. 49 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,800 I just zoomed out and then zoomed in because I wanted to really go 50 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:23,439 in depth on it and try to decide, Okay, which which blockbuster assets 51 00:03:23,479 --> 00:03:24,879 would teams give up. And so we're gonna praise ourselves for a lot of 52 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,719 draft pick talk as well. But the other note that I wanted to give 53 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,439 here because the other well two notes, is so we have to we have 54 00:03:32,599 --> 00:03:37,479 to do this under the guise of what would selling teams be most interested in, 55 00:03:37,599 --> 00:03:38,919 and so a lot of the times that is going to be draft picks. 56 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:43,080 However, I do think unless it's a last resort, we tend to 57 00:03:43,159 --> 00:03:46,919 romanticize the value of long term first round picks. In Lakers case, we 58 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,000 only have long term first round picks to choose from. But we're not just 59 00:03:50,039 --> 00:03:52,599 going to say at twenty twenty nine first round pick for every team, because 60 00:03:52,599 --> 00:03:55,960 front offices who are making the trade for those picks are more likely than not 61 00:03:57,639 --> 00:04:00,599 not going to be the front office that uses them. Whether it's draft them 62 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,080 the players there or trade them, and so you're going to value more immediacy. 63 00:04:04,159 --> 00:04:06,599 And if it's part of a mega deal like we saw with the Jazz 64 00:04:06,639 --> 00:04:11,719 twice where they were getting long term first round picks but also immediate assets and 65 00:04:11,759 --> 00:04:15,639 players and more imminent picks, that's a different story. But those trades were 66 00:04:15,719 --> 00:04:19,120 done because the whole macro of the packages. So yes, there will be 67 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,720 distant first round picks here, but I wanted to caution that, no, 68 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,040 you know, we can't just be like, oh, twenty twenty seven first 69 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,240 for every team that has one available, since I actually think those are not 70 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,800 as valuable as many people think. But with that, I think we can 71 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:36,000 get off to this And so we begin with a bang in the Atlanta Hawks, 72 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,240 very controversial, I've trade Young. I just think, no, would 73 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:45,480 I trade him? I wouldn't. But could this be their Donovan Mitchell Hall 74 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,480 where he has three years left on his deal after this one. He's young, 75 00:04:47,759 --> 00:04:50,600 he's an All NBA type player, and you're looking to you know, 76 00:04:50,639 --> 00:04:53,680 the Jazz, I feel like they're eventually going to go through a more thorough 77 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,199 rebuild, but maybe Atlanta just says, hey, we want to sort of 78 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,680 retool around Clint Capela, Janta Murray and DeAndre Hunter, and like Trey is 79 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,519 gonna give you back players end picks to do it. Now, if you're 80 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,759 not gonna go with Trey, I think you probably have to go with the 81 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,920 Hawks first round pick this year, which they can actually move. They are 82 00:05:09,959 --> 00:05:13,000 such they did just beat the heat after I'm recording this, and they've kind 83 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,839 of turned things around. Trey's playing better, but like they're not a sure 84 00:05:16,879 --> 00:05:19,160 thing, and so that could be a lottery pick in vain, and they've 85 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,040 traded away some distant first round picks to get de Jante Murray in the first 86 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,600 place, if it's not this year's first as Jante Murray. But I have 87 00:05:25,639 --> 00:05:28,120 Trey Young listed. So if you're looking for a blockbuster trade, it would 88 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,839 be a buy in the sense of a divestiture divestiture and maybe there's a star 89 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,160 for star trade out there. It would sort of be like you know, 90 00:05:34,519 --> 00:05:38,920 like I said, with the Donovan Mitchell all the Boston Celtics is there twenty 91 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,959 twenty five first round pick, just they can't trade this year's You're not gonna 92 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,519 trade Jalen Brown or Jason Tatum midseason or at all quite frankly, if you 93 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:47,920 wanted to go our W three, I kind of get it. But the 94 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,639 knees are a question and teams aren't gonna necessarily look to rebuild around that type 95 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:57,160 of a player. Marcus Smart not someone who's gonna intrigue teams. As you 96 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,319 know, his contract is fine. He's a really good player, solid fender, 97 00:06:00,399 --> 00:06:02,519 solid passer, But you're not gonna look to rebuild your team around. 98 00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:05,680 So you're looking to get a blockbuster trade done, it's twenty twenty five or 99 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:10,519 twenty twenty seven. I go with twenty twenty five. That's when it'll post 100 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,800 date Chalon Brown's current deal. You don't want to go to twenty twenty seven 101 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,000 because if anything catastrophic sort of happens, the somethings are getting a little older. 102 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,800 When you look at Smart and robed In and al Horford, it just 103 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,480 gives them so much time to retool. So I'm only twenty twenty five if 104 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,759 they were looking to trade for a star, which they probably are not at 105 00:06:25,759 --> 00:06:29,399 the moment. Brooklyn, this was tough. It's not k D. It's 106 00:06:29,399 --> 00:06:30,439 not Kyrie. I don't even know what his trade value would be. It's 107 00:06:30,439 --> 00:06:33,079 not Simmons. So I think a lot of people might be using albatross right 108 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,759 now. It's it. Look, he's played, he's had some big moments. 109 00:06:35,759 --> 00:06:39,040 The passing is good, the defense is fine, he's looked more like 110 00:06:39,079 --> 00:06:42,879 Ben Zimmons there lately. But the just the passivity on offense is an issue. 111 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,399 And then after that you're kind of out of options, and so you're 112 00:06:45,399 --> 00:06:48,199 not gonna go with sort of the lower end first. It's not going to 113 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,240 be I thought about Nick Klaxton because one year left thumbs deal. If you 114 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,959 can get a twenty twenty eight NETS first round pick, you just you have 115 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,680 no idea what's gonna happen. They've mortgaged so much of their draft to Houston. 116 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,519 Is the first first round pick that they have control of is the twenty 117 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,519 twenty eight one, and Kevin Durant is still not gonna be there by twenty 118 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,560 He's not gonna be there by twenty twenty eight, and if he is gonna 119 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,959 be super old, you short the next I would I think teams would short 120 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,680 the Nets short and long term future, but you could really only short their 121 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,360 long term future at this point because they've traded away so much of their short 122 00:07:15,439 --> 00:07:20,480 term. The Hornets this is uninspiring. You have Lamello, he's off limits, 123 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,120 like you're not going to trade them out for this and that for that. 124 00:07:23,199 --> 00:07:26,680 It's all right, Well, what the fuck? It's their twenty twenty 125 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,240 seven first round pick. That's really the first one they can guarantee because of 126 00:07:30,279 --> 00:07:31,920 the pick that they own a Denver. The way it's protected, you can 127 00:07:31,959 --> 00:07:35,560 do conditional. But that's the challenge with these is you want to certify first 128 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,519 that you know can convey in the first first round pick. We know that 129 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,360 Charlie Kincovey is in twenty twenty seven long term. But if you're a team 130 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,199 and you see what the Hornets have done just their general body of work, 131 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,839 like you're gonna take that pick that has value to it. I just it's 132 00:07:49,879 --> 00:07:54,160 not players. It's not PJ. Washington, it's not Mark Mark Williams, 133 00:07:54,199 --> 00:07:56,720 it's not Kai Jones, it's not James Bay. Mark Williams is good, 134 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,199 looks like he's going to be a long time MBA player. He's not anchoring 135 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,240 a Blockbuster page, even if he ends up being involved with it. The 136 00:08:03,319 --> 00:08:07,240 Chicago Bulls. This was tough. I couldn't go with Patrick Williams. I 137 00:08:07,319 --> 00:08:09,439 just he hasn't shown enough. He's so low volume on offense, even though 138 00:08:09,439 --> 00:08:13,000 he's hitting his threes. He's shown a little bit of a floor game at 139 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,600 points. I recognize it's not all of his fault because the Bulls aren't built 140 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,079 to let him experiment offensively, but it's just at some point he's extension knowledgable. 141 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,000 After this season, he's not shown enough to be considered this high end 142 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,959 asset. I went with the Marta Rosen. Lavine's deal is two sort of 143 00:08:24,959 --> 00:08:30,199 squirrely or would make teams squirrely being owed so much money, having the knee 144 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,360 history. It's Tomarta Rosen and this is tough because he's aged thirty three, 145 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,039 has one more year left on his deal. He's still he rants first again 146 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,960 for the second year in a row. In in predictables Clutch win probability metric, 147 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,720 the dude is clutch, the driving force of what they do best on 148 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:48,120 offense as a playmaker and as a score and maybe they can find sort of 149 00:08:48,159 --> 00:08:52,159 there like remember the Sabonis Haliburton trade. It'd be a more of an extreme. 150 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,679 I'm more or less of an extreme on one end, because you know 151 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,720 the extreme is okay. De Rosen's way older than Sabonis. You're probably not 152 00:08:56,759 --> 00:08:58,879 going to get back a player and Tyrese Halibert, but maybe it's something like 153 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,559 Ahere, it's a a youthful player who's already really good, but you're giving 154 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,279 up Demarta Rosen to a team that wants him more of an immediate impact. 155 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,360 I just he's very clearly been their best player. I don't know else who 156 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,240 who to pick here. They've traded away so a few picks that or they've 157 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,480 traded away so many picks that we would have to go out into the distance 158 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:22,399 for I think one day even reasonably convey. They have their top ten protected 159 00:09:22,399 --> 00:09:26,840 pick oh to San Antonio twenty twenty five, so and that like extends too 160 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,200 far into the future for me to pick it. Like if it doesn't convey 161 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,559 then and there's who knows, there's a chance it doesn't. I want it 162 00:09:31,639 --> 00:09:35,720 to Marta Rosen, Cleveland Cavaliers, caroslav They can't trade picks. I don't 163 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:41,240 think Dean Wade or Isaac Okoro or Dylan Windler like Lamar Stevens, that's not 164 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,919 gonna They might be included in such a deal. But it's Caroslavert eighteen point 165 00:09:43,919 --> 00:09:48,960 six million dollars spiring contract teams might value a shock creation. If you're looking 166 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,120 at Paul Off a blockbuster, it has to begin with him. It's just 167 00:09:50,159 --> 00:09:54,679 we move on there. The Calves don't have draft equally had fun the Mavericks. 168 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,519 This is interesting. So they can't trade a first round pick until two 169 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,639 twenty five, and it techn the conditional. But let's say they're top ten 170 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,519 protected pick conveys to the next this year. I think you still prefer they're 171 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,799 twenty twenty seven first over twenty twenty five. That comes after Luca Dontech's deal 172 00:10:09,919 --> 00:10:11,639 in twenty twenty seven, and so you're increasing the likelihood that he has either 173 00:10:11,759 --> 00:10:16,039 left or that he is forced to trade. And that's just you roll the 174 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,519 dice on the map, because if you're giving them MAVs a good player, 175 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,360 they're probably gonna be good in twenty twenty five. I think what the MAVs 176 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,600 end up doing is they're not going to make a blockbuster trade at the deadline. 177 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,120 I know a lot of people want them to. And then they'll be 178 00:10:28,159 --> 00:10:31,840 able to trade up to four first and three swaps over the off season, 179 00:10:31,879 --> 00:10:35,679 and so it's four first three swaps matching money for that star, and then 180 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,960 that changes the calculus. It's all those picks are rolled in the one. 181 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,639 You're you're shorting their long term future, but you're operating also under the guys 182 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,639 that oh Luke is probably gonna be pretty happy since they're acquiring a star. 183 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,919 I don't know if they pulled off. I just think that that's where we 184 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,480 see but that's what we see them dangle out there. But if they were 185 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,200 to make a move right now, I'm trying to get that twenty twenty seven 186 00:10:52,279 --> 00:10:56,039 first, just to up the variance in Dallas's future. And no, look, 187 00:10:56,039 --> 00:10:58,759 the answer is not a player. It's not Dorian Finney Smith or Maxi 188 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,120 Kleiba, is not j Harvey Hardy. I'm sorry, like those guys are 189 00:11:01,159 --> 00:11:05,360 not getting it done. Denver Nuggets, they don't really have a pick to 190 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,639 trade because that okay, see obligation, it can techually extend through two twenty 191 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,559 nine. They can give up a conditional twenty twenty nine first round pick, 192 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:18,080 but it would have to be unprotected basically and expire immediately or and it'd be 193 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,279 pending again. That okay, see obligation. It's bones Highland. I think 194 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:24,559 it's just maybe another year. I've been Jamal Murray or Michael Porter Junior. 195 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,879 Murray only has two years left on his contract. I think he's been really 196 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:31,519 good because these ACL injuries are two year process. It's you missed a year 197 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,440 and change in his case, and then you gotta go through an entire season 198 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,480 just to get your bearings back. I think he's been really good, but 199 00:11:37,639 --> 00:11:39,879 I don't know that teams would be interested in him. I just think it's 200 00:11:39,919 --> 00:11:43,200 sacrilegious to break up the Yoka Ja Murray game. It's not Michael Porter Junior. 201 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,080 The contracts just too huge. He's been good this year. Credit to 202 00:11:46,159 --> 00:11:50,320 him for fitting into his role, but the back issues would make me nervous. 203 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,919 It's Bones Highland, two years left on his rookie scale deal. He 204 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,000 can hit threes off, the dribble off, the catch gets a little weird 205 00:11:56,039 --> 00:11:58,960 when he's inside br cast of works on. It's finishing, tighten up his 206 00:11:58,039 --> 00:12:01,879 passing. But it's just someone that I think could be. If you attach 207 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,320 money to Bones Highland, I think you get yourself into more interesting trade discussions 208 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,519 than people might realize. This one's gonna be controversial, but I don't know 209 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,159 what else you're supposed to pick. The pistons, the way that their pick 210 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,639 is protected into the like they're first of all, they're not giving up their 211 00:12:13,639 --> 00:12:16,759 own first round pick this year. It's technically owed to the Knicks. It's 212 00:12:16,799 --> 00:12:20,360 so protected that what was it? I denoted it in here, but it's 213 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,480 like it's protected through twenty and twenty nine. Would be techinically the first first 214 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,320 round pick they could give up. Like that's how long it is protected. 215 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,120 It's not protected through two and twenty nine. Think it's through twenty and twenty 216 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,399 seven. So it's not the pick that's just too far into the distance. 217 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:39,039 It could be Jalen Duran, who is just like he's more than a highlight 218 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,279 factory finisher. Like I think we've seen enough. There's there's an undisciplined to 219 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,240 him on defense, but like he's going to be super versatile. There not 220 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:46,759 a building block. If you want to pick him, that's fine. It's 221 00:12:46,759 --> 00:12:52,000 not gonna be Beef stew Killian Hayes been a lot better this season, but 222 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,600 like he's extensional after this year? Is he going to anchor a blockbuster deal 223 00:12:54,639 --> 00:12:58,720 when teams have to reinvest in him. It's Jay n Ivey because you're not 224 00:12:58,759 --> 00:13:01,360 trading Kde and this doesn't matter the Pistons aren't gonna make a blockbuster trade, 225 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,039 but if they wanted to, he would have to be the asset that's on 226 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,519 the table, I would think, because you're not gonna get it done with 227 00:13:07,519 --> 00:13:11,240 anything else and you just don't have the pick flexibility because might also becomes sort 228 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,360 of a reality for them if they wind up in the Weban Yama, Scoot 229 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:18,759 Henderson, river Nam and Thompson range, just because like, yeah, Weben 230 00:13:18,799 --> 00:13:20,200 yamically more of a play finisher, but like you're gonna want to give him 231 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,360 on ball reff certainly with Scoot Henderson as well too. Just something fascinating to 232 00:13:24,399 --> 00:13:28,080 watch, especially with Jay and Ivy being up and down all this year. 233 00:13:28,399 --> 00:13:31,360 The Warriors Jonathan Comingga that this is easy. It could be Jordan Poole if 234 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,080 he wasn't on a poison pill right now, but I would still pick Comingga 235 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,679 anyway. He's been before he was dealing with a was he like a shin 236 00:13:39,799 --> 00:13:43,279 injury right now or a calf injury, whatever, a right foot sprain. 237 00:13:43,519 --> 00:13:45,720 He was just he was a regular part of the rotation. The thrust he 238 00:13:45,759 --> 00:13:48,360 plays with this hyper valuable turned with lates to rim pressure, biting off ball 239 00:13:48,399 --> 00:13:52,840 movement, regular doses of physical chutzpah on the defense that I think would probably 240 00:13:52,879 --> 00:13:56,000 make Draymond Green beam on the inside. I think his offensive, like Q, 241 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,639 has gotten a lot better. He's improved his overall decision making while dabbling 242 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,639 in some more complex usage. There's actually a fun Jonathan Cominga stat roughly two 243 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,919 hundred players have finished at least one hundred drives this season. Comingga is one 244 00:14:07,919 --> 00:14:13,320 of seven that's shooting better than fifty five percent and has an insist rate north 245 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:18,240 of ten. His company lukinan chich Iowa soon move Lebron James Nicoleokich, Malik 246 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,799 Monk shout him Beligue Monk, and then Domasamonis. If I'm if I'm a 247 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,120 seller and the Warriors, you're trying to get a star, it's Comingga that 248 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,000 you want. You could go after their twenty twenty six first, since they 249 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,519 owe the twenty twenty four to Memphis. I just think it's Comingga. This 250 00:14:30,559 --> 00:14:33,480 is someone who I still believe sort of has that star upside, and I 251 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:37,000 would prefer him even if Jordan Pool was easier to move and I'm a seller. 252 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,000 Houston was interesting. You take Jalen Green and Jabar Smith junior off the 253 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,200 table. You take this year's first round pick off the table because there's no 254 00:14:43,279 --> 00:14:46,559 line to them to immediate contention, and so if you're making a blockbuster trade, 255 00:14:46,799 --> 00:14:50,440 it's for the long term. I went with their twenty twenty six first 256 00:14:50,519 --> 00:14:54,279 rounder from Brooklyn just because they've traded so much of their future draft to Okay 257 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,039 See, and that's just, you know, I don't know what else you 258 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,559 really It could be Alpern Shane Goun, who deserves still in higher usage role, 259 00:15:01,639 --> 00:15:05,960 but teams seem reticent to build their offenses around big man, especially one 260 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,519 where in Shangoon you still need to see more from him as a perimeter shot 261 00:15:09,679 --> 00:15:13,240 creator and maker, and then his defense is certainly a problem. Brooklyn's twenty 262 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:16,600 twenty six first What the hell is going to happen in Brooklyn between now and 263 00:15:16,639 --> 00:15:18,279 the like? If you're a team and you have a chance to get this 264 00:15:18,279 --> 00:15:20,440 pick, why wouldn't you just get this pick? Kyrie probably won't be there, 265 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,559 he's a free agent for this season. What is gonna go on with 266 00:15:22,559 --> 00:15:26,799 Ben Simmons in that time? Could Kevin Durant request another trade during that span? 267 00:15:26,879 --> 00:15:28,840 And even if he doesn't, the Nets coming off twenty five, twenty 268 00:15:28,879 --> 00:15:33,799 twenty six. That'll be Kevin Durant's age thirty seven season, age thirty four 269 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,879 now age thirty five next year, Yeah, that'll a twenty five twenty six, 270 00:15:37,919 --> 00:15:41,720 so it'll be his age thirty six season. He could get older. 271 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,000 I'll be probably as well. He could have asked for a trade by that 272 00:15:43,039 --> 00:15:46,759 point. That's their best, that's their best blockbuster asset. I don't expect 273 00:15:46,759 --> 00:15:50,240 them, even though the Rockets need a consolidation trade, I don't expect them 274 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,320 to really look at it. But that would be that would be the asset 275 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,320 that needs to be on the table. The Pacers were interesting. It wouldn't 276 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,840 be Haliburton. You keep him. They're not a team you could go with 277 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,759 one of their own first round picks. They're not a team that's going to 278 00:16:02,879 --> 00:16:06,120 trade those willy nilly. And also they kind of don't have a ton of 279 00:16:06,159 --> 00:16:07,960 value because any clearly isn't going to be a team that just bottoms out. 280 00:16:08,159 --> 00:16:11,519 Again, it was Benneedick. Mathron was on the table, and personally, 281 00:16:11,559 --> 00:16:17,440 if I were the Pacers and it meant getting in O Giannaope, that type 282 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,080 of a close to a star player what I consider moving Benneedick Mathern, Yes, 283 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:22,960 but I'm trying to stay in character. I don't think the Pacers would. 284 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,559 And so that leaves you with Miles Turner. Yes, he's on an 285 00:16:26,559 --> 00:16:30,159 expiring contract playing he was playing at a fringe all star level before he started 286 00:16:30,159 --> 00:16:33,679 dealing with a back tightness I think, and he fits onto basically every single 287 00:16:33,679 --> 00:16:36,879 team, and so you have to worry about his next deal. But if 288 00:16:36,879 --> 00:16:41,879 you are willing to attach Chris Duarte maybe some of your first but protected to 289 00:16:41,919 --> 00:16:45,399 Miles Turner, you can get in some pretty ambitious discussions. And so I 290 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,120 think even if you were willing to put your own picks on the table, 291 00:16:48,399 --> 00:16:52,879 Miles Turner to me would be more appealing, still fairly young, just because 292 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:56,200 we don't expect those picks from the need to be like super high valuable at 293 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,399 this point. I mean maybe you do. Maybe you differ from me there 294 00:16:59,399 --> 00:17:02,159 and you think that they're gonna fall off or something, but I wouldn't expect 295 00:17:02,159 --> 00:17:06,079 them to move their own first round picks in that situation. The Los Angeles 296 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,799 Clipper is no brainer here, Kwai Paul George off the table. It's their 297 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:11,240 twenty twenty eight first round pick. You can go twenty twenty nine if you 298 00:17:11,279 --> 00:17:14,400 really want to. But I don't know why you would thought about Terrence Man 299 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:17,000 for a second. His extension hasn't kicked in, and the two year, 300 00:17:17,039 --> 00:17:19,480 twenty two million dollar deal looks like a fucking steal. But is that someone 301 00:17:19,599 --> 00:17:22,880 age twenty six that they're gonna another team's gonna view as a building block. 302 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,880 He's probably in any blockbuster trade anyway, But you want the twenty twenty eight 303 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:32,319 first round pick when you're looking at oh Okay, Chris, Paul up Kawai 304 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:33,759 Leonard and Paul George, both their current deals will be up, and even 305 00:17:33,799 --> 00:17:37,119 if they're still around, they're gonna be deep into their thirties and they've already 306 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,000 shown that they're not going to be on the floor every single night. So 307 00:17:40,519 --> 00:17:44,200 that pick, again, it's going to take some imagination, since if you're 308 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:45,960 getting Terrence Man as part of the deal, there's your immediate asset. It's 309 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,119 look, we have this fairly young player, gonna give us some rim pressure, 310 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,119 some energy. I don't think the Clippers want to move in, to 311 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,640 be clear, but if you're again blockbuster trade talks, maybe that's how you 312 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,799 rationalize this where even with the Lakers you're not going to get a player that's 313 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:02,799 intriguing as Terrence Man and accompanied with those picks. So maybe it gets the 314 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:06,640 Clippers tack some more money to that package and some interesting discussions. They're also 315 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,839 a team that I could see absolutely moving that pick and making it unprotected the 316 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,160 Lakers. It's the twenty twenty seven or twenty twenty nine first round picks, 317 00:18:14,319 --> 00:18:17,799 which would you choose, And so I think a lot of people would choose 318 00:18:17,799 --> 00:18:21,119 twenty twenty nine. I'm just sort of the mind like we're gonna see free 319 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:25,000 agency change, I think by twenty twenty six, and it'll probably last a 320 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,759 couple of years. I don't personally think players should want to play for the 321 00:18:27,839 --> 00:18:32,799 Lakers, and I do think they're probably looking more closely at front office competence 322 00:18:32,839 --> 00:18:36,519 than ever. But I just feel like the Lakers could stumble into somebody if 323 00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:40,319 they keep their cap sheet right, and so I want to get that pick 324 00:18:40,319 --> 00:18:41,640 as soon as possible. I don't want, you know, this year's pick 325 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,680 might be nice, but like I don't want to leave open the door the 326 00:18:44,759 --> 00:18:48,440 next couple of years twenty four, twenty five, even though New Orleans has 327 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,079 that option, like you could still have Lebron ad might stay healthy. Like, 328 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:53,759 do they actually make a trade by trading these picks? I don't know. 329 00:18:55,279 --> 00:18:56,599 I think twenty twenty seven I want to get it as soon as possible 330 00:18:56,599 --> 00:19:00,680 because two twenty nine I feel it gives them way too much time who stumble 331 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,839 in to someone? And maybe I'm wrong there, but I think twenty twenty 332 00:19:03,839 --> 00:19:07,920 seven has more value for that reason than twenty twenty nine For Grizzlies. This 333 00:19:08,039 --> 00:19:12,000 is semi challenging, but it's not we're in character or the Grizzlies are not 334 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,640 going to trade John Morant. They're not going to trade Jarred Jackson junior. 335 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,920 And now Desmond Bayane has entered that level of building block, and so Zayer 336 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,319 Williams I might have picked last year, hasn't shown enough this year coming back 337 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,880 from injury for me, And so it's the Golden State pick. It's top 338 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,960 four protected in twenty four, top three protected in twenty five, and unprotected 339 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,920 I think in twenty twenty six. And so like that's a pretty valuable first 340 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,960 round pick. You don't necessarily want to bet against a team that has Steph 341 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,400 Curry, but they're getting older. Draymond's a free agent this summer. Who 342 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,640 knows what happens like they could be like they could they could bottom out, 343 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:45,480 or that could be a lottery pick. We don't. We don't know. 344 00:19:45,519 --> 00:19:48,880 I wouldn't predict it, but that's something to consider. You start to attach 345 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,440 that asset to other players, other money. If you're Memphis, I think 346 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,039 it could get you. Do I think here's the question. Do I think 347 00:19:56,079 --> 00:20:00,400 Memphis using their own picks this cold state pick some of their younger players other 348 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,960 salaries? Do I think they can trade for a star without giving up Desmond 349 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,720 Vane and then of course keeping John Morant and Jared Jackson junior. I Do 350 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,880 I think that's the type of trade versatility they have. Do I expect them 351 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:15,799 too? No? But they could Miami. This was tough, So it 352 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,359 can't be Tyler Hero because the poison pillet will be Tyler Hero after this season. 353 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,119 I think you could argue that maybe it shouldn't be Tyler Hero because he's 354 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,960 been so good. But it's just the poison pill. That's why he's not 355 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,680 here. Is it their twenty twenty three first round pick. They've shown some 356 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,720 combustibility, They've had a lot of players in miss time. Bench has not 357 00:20:32,759 --> 00:20:36,279 been great. Depot has been up and down. They've kind of struggled to 358 00:20:36,279 --> 00:20:38,240 fill the fourth spot outside of Kala Martin. Their top end units are good, 359 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,400 but they've just their offense has not been great. Defense is still intact? 360 00:20:42,079 --> 00:20:45,920 Half court offense will I worry about. I still think it's two and 361 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,039 twenty seven. Can't trade two twenty five. It's old to the thunder, 362 00:20:48,759 --> 00:20:52,839 but I think it's two and twenty seven. By that point, it's like, 363 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,240 Okay, well, how old is Jimmy Butler? Is he still there? 364 00:20:55,559 --> 00:20:56,279 Yes, they still have Bam, they could still a Hero, and 365 00:20:56,279 --> 00:21:00,559 so there's the open endedness there. But I look, these are the assets 366 00:21:00,599 --> 00:21:03,319 they have to trade. It's nobody else, it's no player. If it's 367 00:21:03,319 --> 00:21:06,759 not Tyler Hero, it's not a player. And then if it's not this 368 00:21:06,839 --> 00:21:07,920 year's firt round pick and see us in the twenty seven. So I don't 369 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,759 know if you want to be spicy and say it should be Bam he's been 370 00:21:11,799 --> 00:21:14,920 too valuable to trade this year, or ditto for Jimmy Butler. BAM's just 371 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,200 been quiet, I don't want to say quietly, but he's been dominant at 372 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,160 both ends. I don't think he's getting enough credit for it. The Minnesota 373 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:26,480 Timberwolves do they even have one bankrupt of draft equity. Karl Anthony Towns cannot 374 00:21:26,519 --> 00:21:29,880 be traded this season. Rudy Gobert's value is just in the toilet, not 375 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,039 because he's been exceptionally bad, but like dude is over thirty. Look at 376 00:21:33,039 --> 00:21:37,119 the money he's owed over one hundred plus million for the next three years. 377 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,839 His trade value is just. I would argue that teams would probably use contract 378 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,440 as a net negative right now after what's happened with the Wolves, not his 379 00:21:44,519 --> 00:21:47,640 fault specifically, That's where I'm coming from. I thought, if you're not 380 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,640 gonna trade Anthy Edwards, I thought about the ends of the Russell the money's 381 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,640 big. I think like as a shock creator and even just his orchestration how 382 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,680 to pick and roll, that is someone that might intrigue teams. And he's 383 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,079 still kind of young, but he's also going to be a free age and 384 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,240 so I'd rather have Jade McDaniels, after sort of an uneven start, showing 385 00:22:03,279 --> 00:22:07,799 a lot defensively again, he's hitting his three ball above thirty nine percent, 386 00:22:07,839 --> 00:22:10,559 which still like to see him take more, but he's also shown the ability 387 00:22:10,599 --> 00:22:14,400 now to make some just more complicated decisions and open space has another year left 388 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,759 on his rookie scale. I don't think him plus Russell and seconds or whatever 389 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,599 or Nazri gets you in any splashy discussions. But if teams make a deal 390 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:26,279 with you, it's going to be because of Jane McDaniels. The Milwaukee Bucks. 391 00:22:26,319 --> 00:22:27,680 This just comes down to, Okay, do you think they're gonna trade 392 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:33,400 any of their big three Jannis no, Drew, no Middleton with the injuries 393 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,079 and then the player option, your team's even view as a blockbuster asset were 394 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,880 Goalpez isn't gonna get there. Probably Portis isn't splashy enough. This just comes 395 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,359 down to Marjean Bouchamp or the twenty twenty nine first. I like Marjan bow 396 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,200 Champ. I think he's going to be an excellent offensive player when it comes 397 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,880 to fanning out the floor in transition, very complimentary one day. I don't 398 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,960 see him as just sort of this future on ball diamond in the rough. 399 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,240 I don't think that's ever gonna come about. I don't think he's ever gonna 400 00:22:56,279 --> 00:23:00,279 be this lockdown one on one stopper, although I think that he's want to 401 00:23:00,279 --> 00:23:03,079 be able to be a disruptive, even maybe just a team defender or someone 402 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,920 that you can throw against, just some more clicker quicker athletic ball handlers. 403 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,240 I think he's intriguing regardless in a blockbuster deal. You're looking at salary, 404 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,759 the twenty twenty nine first round pick and mar Jan bow Champ, and I 405 00:23:15,759 --> 00:23:18,119 think just the twenty twenty nine first round pick is going to be most valuable. 406 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,160 You can default to, Well, they're gonna have Jannese like, They'll 407 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,319 still be good Jana like. Janna is gonna be in his thirties by then, 408 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,599 and his prime a little bit shorter, just because when you look at 409 00:23:26,599 --> 00:23:30,799 the physiology of what he does, I'm not predicting it, but unless the 410 00:23:30,839 --> 00:23:33,160 jumper really comes along, we've seen him have hot stretches of counter. He 411 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,039 has the counters, but like the mid range jumper, doesn't fall consistently enough. 412 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,720 The free free throws are all over the place, same with the three 413 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,920 point shooting. If his athleticism wanes, it's a fair question. So if 414 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,799 you can get your hand on that pick, in addition to maybe something more 415 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,000 immediate like a Marjan bow Champ, they can enter someone striguing. Trenking talks 416 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:55,119 the Pelicans. This is just like talk about fucking options, Tyson Daniels, 417 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,640 Trey Murphy, even Herb Jones probably still qualifies. I think that you could 418 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,720 talk about the Lakers to twenty four first round pick, because it could be 419 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,119 deferred to twenty twenty five. You could talk about some of the Bucks first 420 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,680 round picks of a go off into the distance. You can talk about someone 421 00:24:07,759 --> 00:24:10,279 new war leads his own first round picks. Maybe you're thinking, hey, 422 00:24:10,319 --> 00:24:12,559 like Zion could crash and burn, or his prime just not gonna last really 423 00:24:12,559 --> 00:24:15,920 long. I think some people would argue that you should put Brandon Ingram into 424 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,039 this discussion. I just think Brandon Ingram, who's been out for so long, 425 00:24:19,079 --> 00:24:22,519 and I'm starting to just believe that, like he's dealing with more than 426 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,319 a coe injury or finger injury, whatever it is, he's on the table. 427 00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:29,559 If like five to ten players are available, that's not a wide enough 428 00:24:29,559 --> 00:24:33,519 scope. That's like like we're talking any old blockbuster here. I settled on 429 00:24:33,839 --> 00:24:37,400 the Lakers first round pick. It's a swap this year, and that's like 430 00:24:37,759 --> 00:24:41,319 Women Yama's available, Scoot Henderson's available, Like the Lakers could be a lottery 431 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,359 team, like a higher lottery team. Maybe it kind of perked up of 432 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,279 late. Andy Davis might come back soon. But if they're not going to 433 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,440 trade the picks this year, like this team has the potential will be really 434 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,799 bad by season's end. So I think it's that pick I get if you 435 00:24:53,839 --> 00:24:57,839 would go Dyson Daniels or Trey Murphy or even the next year's Lakers, pick 436 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,839 I didn't, and I don't think that's the case. I'm trying to capitalize 437 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:06,160 on the Lakers incompetence right now. The Knicks Quentin Grimes. I'm kind of 438 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,400 wondering if this is controversial. I don't think it is RJ. Barrett poison 439 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,119 pill. It's not him IQ and Obie Top and I think have both become 440 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:17,680 underrated nationally. Maybe both are a little underrated within Knicks circles, so there's 441 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,400 got to be an in between. They're both extension knowledgeable this season, and 442 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,079 Obie Top and the Knicks are gonna wind up getting hosed in any trade for 443 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,200 him, just because he was injured this year. They never ever featured him 444 00:25:26,279 --> 00:25:29,000 enough, and that was sort of a function of the roster. Julius Randall's 445 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,000 playing well enough, Like, yeah, what were you gonna do with Obie 446 00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:34,400 now when he's coming back and he's healthy. So it's not those two. 447 00:25:34,519 --> 00:25:37,920 They have a ton of first round picks. But let's break this down. 448 00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:41,480 Do you want a Knicks pick right now? Honestly a future Knicks pick? 449 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,759 Maybe you do, And I would if you wanted twenty twenty seven Knicks unprotected 450 00:25:44,759 --> 00:25:48,799 first, all right, I get it, like they're so ambitious when it 451 00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:52,480 comes to making the playoffs, are being in that discussion. There's a chance 452 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:53,720 that those picks, even if they're in the lottery aren't great. And so 453 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:59,000 they have Jalen Brunson, Julius Randalls playing like a borderline All star there. 454 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,240 They have good players, they're incentivized to continue going after good players. I 455 00:26:03,319 --> 00:26:07,319 just feel like they'll be locked into mediocrity if not better moving forward, and 456 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,200 so those picks aren't as valuable. They have all these other teams first Trump 457 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,559 picks that Dallas pick top ten protective this year, I don't it's not gonna 458 00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:17,680 be a lot O pick. Then you have all these conditional picks from they 459 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,920 have Detroit Washington, Like there's a chance those two just like they don't even 460 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,599 convey, and so they're not valuable and just like that, we're at Quentin 461 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,559 Grimes and so three and D prospect who can do a little bit more off 462 00:26:29,559 --> 00:26:32,039 the dribble. I don't know. We saw him do some initiation in Summer 463 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,400 League. I think he's shown that he can do a lot in sort of 464 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,039 open space with them in his hands. But as a creator for others, 465 00:26:37,079 --> 00:26:40,960 I wouldn't buy into that two years left on his rookie scale, rookie scale, 466 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,559 energetic defender, it's him for me. Maybe maybe if you want it 467 00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:48,839 to be spicy, you just go ahead and say Jalen Brunson, because twenty 468 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,039 six, twenty seven year old playing like an All Star fits onto any team, 469 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,119 and there's just value in okay, if we think we're gonna get the 470 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,559 guy, or we think we have one of them and a younger guy, 471 00:26:56,599 --> 00:27:00,319 but we're trading this star because we don't want to pay him, or he 472 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,480 wants out, or we don't think he's a good fit, like a Washington. 473 00:27:03,599 --> 00:27:04,920 Let's just let's just say Washington. I'm not saying Jim Bruns will be 474 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,160 on the table for Bradley Beale like even a Chicago I Zack Lavine's on the 475 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,240 table even the Toronto off Siakam's on the table or something. I could see 476 00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:15,000 teams targeting him. If I'm the Knicks, I'm not giving him up. 477 00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:18,400 Just because he simplifies everything for everyone doesn't mean he's better than some of the 478 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,519 players that might be available. I just don't think he would be on the 479 00:27:21,519 --> 00:27:26,440 table. Plus the familial ties within the organization for him. The Oklahoma Simmy 480 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,400 Thunder, Oklahoma City Thunder. This was tough. It's not going to be 481 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,960 Shay, It's not gonna be Chet. He's injured. I don't think they 482 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,079 would trade him. They're not gonna the Thunder. I'm gonna make a block 483 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,279 quest or trade anyway. But let's let's get in the Sam Presty mindset. 484 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,440 I thought about Jay Gubb a little bit more than I was going to, 485 00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:42,039 and it was just kind of like, all right, is he gonna end 486 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,319 up having the on ball juice to where teams actually want to build around him? 487 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,200 Or is this just going to be someone who's a gap filler at both 488 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,000 ends of the floor, maybe in all defense type player, and that's that's 489 00:27:52,039 --> 00:27:55,759 really good. I'd still prefer Josh Giddy. Then he's been shooting over forty 490 00:27:55,799 --> 00:27:59,519 percent on a good volume number of three since the start of December. Defense 491 00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:03,319 has ticked up this year. Good rebounder can make plays in the open floor, 492 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,759 trusting his floater a little bit more this year. I like what I've 493 00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:07,279 seen him move off the ball from Shay, and so that proves that this 494 00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:11,799 isn't someone who needs to play or serve one function two years left on his 495 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,559 rookie scale only twenty. That's the player you ask for if you're trading. 496 00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:18,880 Okay, see a star and maybe that stars a guard, which is why, 497 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,160 like, right, Giddy has to be in there. That's what you 498 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,000 go after. I don't think i'd want any of the thunder Oh, I 499 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,559 mean, you'd want the Thunder's own picks, but like, are those the 500 00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:29,400 most valuable thing they could give up? Their picks already? Kind of looking 501 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,039 at them, are like, well, where's it gonna be this year? 502 00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:33,200 They're not gonna be in the webon yamaste. You say, It's like, 503 00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:36,079 yeah, they might finish in the lottery and then get super lucky end up 504 00:28:36,079 --> 00:28:38,000 in the top four, but they're not gonna have top lottery odds. And 505 00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:42,960 you scale that forward to more development from Shay and Jay Dubb. They still 506 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,519 have lou Dort and then Chet Holmer's gonna play. They have cap space. 507 00:28:45,559 --> 00:28:48,680 You're sending them a star in a blockbuster trade. You don't want their own 508 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,079 picks, and so do you want the Clippers or Rockets picks? Maybe I 509 00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:56,400 thought about Houston's twenty twenty four pick because they should still be pretty bad. 510 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,519 It's top four protected, so I don't really know how to feel about that. 511 00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:02,839 I just went with Giddy, and I think it's more of a compliment 512 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,720 to just how good he's been this season. The Orlando Magic this was tough 513 00:29:07,759 --> 00:29:10,759 too. You're not gonna trade Polo. You're not gonna trade Franz Wagner. 514 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,720 Jail and Sucks is not a blockbuster trade asset right now. Do not sell 515 00:29:12,759 --> 00:29:15,640 your jail and Suck stock. But he is not a blockbuster trade asset. 516 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,759 If you're the Magic, you're also you look kind of close to playoff proximity, 517 00:29:19,799 --> 00:29:22,880 and so if you're I don't know what player becomes available again, but 518 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,599 if you could trade your first round pick this year, I guess you think 519 00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:27,880 about it. I wouldn't do it, Like right now, you're close enough 520 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,599 to where, oh, we could have a bottom five record, Like I'm 521 00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:34,559 not pumping on the chance to end up with Amen Thompson or Scoot Henderson Victor 522 00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:37,079 like, I'm just not doing it. So with their twenty twenty four first 523 00:29:37,119 --> 00:29:40,119 round pick, they do have the Bulls pick this year, that might be 524 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,000 something interesting. You put that on the table, and so you're saying to 525 00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:45,039 yourself, yeah, you hamstring some of the other moves you could do because 526 00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:49,160 you're trading it now rather than after the twenty three draft. But you attach 527 00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:52,519 that to just money some of these other players. You having your roster future 528 00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:56,839 picks, the Bulls picks, you can get in some splashy discussions while then 529 00:29:57,079 --> 00:30:00,680 still having this year's first round pick. So that's big time. I don't 530 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,279 expect the Magic to be like super aggressive buyers. I wouldn't rule it out 531 00:30:04,319 --> 00:30:07,599 though over the summer, adding another high end lottery prospect to a core with 532 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,279 Paolo and Suggs and friends Bockinger already it makes some of those other guys expendable 533 00:30:12,319 --> 00:30:17,319 and maybe including Sugs plus their future draft equity. Philly Tyris Maxie is the 534 00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:18,920 only answer. It's not a first round pick. It's not going to be 535 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,720 Joel Beater, James Harden, Tobias Harris's salary at get it, he has 536 00:30:22,759 --> 00:30:26,119 to be as part of any blockbuster deal. But any team that's making the 537 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,400 deal is like, oh, you gave us basically Tobias Harris and Tyres Maxie. 538 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,359 And look, Tyris Maxie, I think he should be better on defense 539 00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:37,799 by now, but lightning quick speed going in a straight line is shown that 540 00:30:37,839 --> 00:30:41,279 he can play on or off the ball like he's and the three point shooting 541 00:30:41,319 --> 00:30:44,880 is just real. Has he's extensionws well after this year. He's not someone 542 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,440 you're afraid to pay though, Like this isn't in a I'm gonna saying in 543 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,759 a manual quickly situation, but he's just like a little way lower end than 544 00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:55,119 Maxie at this point. So it's just like that's not someone that you're going 545 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,200 to be concerned about paying. It's it would be like if the Heat had 546 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,920 never again he given Hero and extension. That's yes, he's gonna be expensively 547 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,720 live up to it. Like you're not going to be afraid to extend Tyler 548 00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:07,599 Hero and clearly the Heat weren't. So if the Sixers want to pull off 549 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,359 a blockbuster trade, they offer Harris and Maxie and see what they could get 550 00:31:11,359 --> 00:31:14,759 and look, I think you'd be surprised at who they could get. The 551 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,359 Suns, the Phoenix Suns. What is their most valuable trade asset? The 552 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,519 things that were on the table were a vast man. I thought about distance 553 00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:26,000 first round picks, just like because it's you know, CP three is always 554 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,079 on the down swings, already on the down swing. But as we're talking 555 00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:33,000 about future first round picks, I'm like, well, what if they just 556 00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:37,160 traded this year or unprotected pick. They've kind of sucked lately. Injuries are 557 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,839 just incredibly behind that, So like, could they turn it around? And 558 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,640 if you are getting them, let's say they're training for Pascal Siakam. This 559 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,160 is just they're training for Pascal Siakam. They're gonna get better, and so 560 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,839 that would diminish the value of this year's pick. But the fact of the 561 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,160 twenty twenty three, if they dangled it unprotected, it's probably more valuable than 562 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,759 it was. And that I even considered it seasons going off the rails the 563 00:31:56,839 --> 00:32:01,079 distant first round picks, I get it. But they do have Michael Bridges, 564 00:32:01,079 --> 00:32:05,680 who is my ultimate selection. And I know people are gonna say DeAndre 565 00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:08,319 Ayton, he's I don't want to say, I'm gonna be like, I'm 566 00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:10,559 like in the moment and in my field, so I'm gonna say he sucks. 567 00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:15,359 He doesn't suck, but he's been not great on defense this year, 568 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,480 and just there's still that, you know, he's the keith Man Horne of 569 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,920 big men on offense, where it's just like he has like talent and skills 570 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,119 to put all this shit together, but he doesn't do it enough consistently. 571 00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:27,200 He's underwhelming. If you're gonna put him on the ball and then he just 572 00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:30,440 comes off, it's like really timid or soft. If you need him to 573 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:36,000 be more aggressive, and now you've maxed him out, teams will be interested 574 00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:37,440 and they will run more stuff for him on offense. But like, there's 575 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,880 a chance that Phoenix just gave a slightly above average center a max contract that's 576 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,519 not a cap slocked trade asset. I'm sorry, it's Michael Bridges. He's 577 00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:50,480 still whatever he is twenty six scales to every single team. I think he's 578 00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:52,319 been overstretched with the amount of on ball work this Sun's deed him to do. 579 00:32:52,599 --> 00:32:55,359 But he is now someone who gives you rim pressure and shooting, of 580 00:32:55,359 --> 00:33:00,119 course, but rim pressure outside of transition like you can work mcaal bridges for 581 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,359 more of a standstill and he will get going downhill. Whether that's gonna work, 582 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,039 is a setup man for others in higher volume, or if you want 583 00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:08,559 to slow it down, haven't run more pick and rolls. I have a 584 00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:12,799 beholder of you there, but like he has more value than just as a 585 00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:15,799 specialist, and he's shown it. His defense has slipped to this year. 586 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,400 I think he's just shouldering too much responsibility at both ends. He's also probably 587 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,880 trying to keep his streak alive and it's just super banged up at this point. 588 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,799 So if you're going a blockbuster trade with the Phoenix Hunde, you want 589 00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:28,759 to get McCall bridges I think more than anyone else, even though he's not 590 00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:30,200 a start. Look, his contract is probably below market at this point, 591 00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:35,079 under lock and key for another three years after this one. That's the pick. 592 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,839 And if it's not going to be him, I think you go with 593 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,240 probably a distant first, even one of their distant first over eight and still 594 00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:43,839 that's how not out on eighton. I just don't like he's not this blockbuster 595 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,000 magnet to me, the Blazers. I've wanted to pick Anthony Simons. My 596 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:52,960 friend, colleague editor Brian Knox Bryant Knox over at Bleacher Report said it probably 597 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,160 needs to be Shade Sharp because of just the mystery box potential here. And 598 00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,359 I think he's right. Just yeah, there's the there's the just Moons shot 599 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,839 hops that he has and he's you know, disproving and defying gravity. There's 600 00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:07,839 also just he shown the ability hit some really difficult jumpers. The physical tools 601 00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:10,679 you have might be someone who could really work on defense. So three years 602 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,639 left on his rookie scale, still a teenager if you want to acquire a 603 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:16,679 star in your Portland. Also, given the way that you're encumbered with your 604 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:22,719 pick obligations, you go Shaden Sharp plus money plus other stuff, and that 605 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,000 gets you into some pretty I would say, nuclear discussions. Like I think 606 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,000 there are teams that I think even if Simons is on the table, I 607 00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:30,679 get you into some nuclear discussions. But Shaden Sharp is still in the could 608 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:36,400 be anything camp, And I think every times sort of graduated there to fringe. 609 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,840 All Star knows we're he's not gonna be good on defense, knows that 610 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:44,480 his passing sort of has a ceiling on its creativity and complexity. But he's 611 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,239 also a better ball mover than he was. It still might be him for 612 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,760 me, and I think he's really good, but it's if you're trying to 613 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,320 make a blockbuster happen at Shayden Sharp the Sacramento Kings, it's Key and Murray. 614 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,719 They don't like it can't really be anyone else. It's not gonna be 615 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,840 Fox or some bonus, because the whole idea would be, Okay, let's 616 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,920 get his higher end player for to play with the Aaron foxon's a bonus. 617 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,639 Barnes isn't gonna be, like yeah, as a salary anchor, maybe, 618 00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:09,079 but it's not gonna be Davion Mitchell just too much of a question mark on 619 00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:12,519 offense, even though he was just splashing jumpers the other night. I can't 620 00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:15,159 remember I was watching the game, whoever they were playing, it's Keegan Murray. 621 00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:19,880 Like he's just been great moving off the ball. He's sixth this year, 622 00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:23,039 sixth in the entire league in spot up three pointers made, catching shoot 623 00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:27,079 three pointers. And that's gonna scale every single team a little bit older for 624 00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:30,719 a rookie three cost controls years for like this combo forward that just plugs and 625 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,199 plays into any sort of offensive system. I don't know what you could get 626 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,599 for him. He's not getting you a capstock superstar on his own. But 627 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:42,519 like if you were a dangle Kegan Murray plus money and your first the first 628 00:35:42,519 --> 00:35:45,639 pick you could trade is not until two twenty eight, so you could trade. 629 00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:47,119 I want to make that clear. You can trade a conditional first round 630 00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:51,880 pick before then. The first first round pick Sacramino can guarantee is not till 631 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,719 twenty twenty. That's that's why I didn't pick it. Maybe there would be 632 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,400 teams that are more entranced by that, but that's why I didn't pick it. 633 00:35:57,679 --> 00:36:00,800 Let's just say Keegan Murray and like, if you floated, do you 634 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,800 need both these players? I don't think it's something you do. But if 635 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,599 you needy Kegan Murray and if you traded Key Murray Harrison, BR's like, 636 00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:09,440 who does that get you? Is that like ogn a Noobi material? They 637 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:14,159 talked about that on the low Post the other day. I mean maybe like 638 00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:15,920 would that get you into I'm trying to think of, like would that get 639 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,400 even like the Pascal Siakam discussion if you were willing to attach some other first 640 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,840 there? And so I think the answer is Keigy Murray. Would they be 641 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,800 willing to move him if the right opportunity presents itself. We have to see. 642 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,199 But I think this is, if anything, taken as a compliments, 643 00:36:28,199 --> 00:36:31,719 how good Kegan Murray has been, Spurs were tough. Kelvin Johnson, poison 644 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:37,079 pill could be him if we move the poison pill parameters from here. I 645 00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:39,360 thought about Devin Missel, just so many more on ball skills. I just 646 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,159 don't think the Spurs would move him. And it's like, okay, well 647 00:36:43,199 --> 00:36:45,519 a few years of his rookie scale are gone. And if you don't think 648 00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:47,840 he's gonna be a primary creator, do you prioritize him? We know the 649 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,119 Spurs aren't gonna trade their own first round pick, so those are just off 650 00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:54,360 the table. Is it Chicago's twenty twenty five pick? No, it's top 651 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,599 ten protected. Jeremy so On I thought about and as me, it's specifically 652 00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:04,000 I might made it him, but just he's so raw offensively you can see 653 00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:06,840 the florid navigation on and off the ball. With him, we're just a 654 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,920 free throw shooting. What's his jumper gonna become? Can even pull up off 655 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,400 the dribble? Ever, and how much are you going to trust his facilitation 656 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,519 when you don't actively suck and you're looking for silver linings, like as hard 657 00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:19,639 as you can. It's Atlanta's twenty twenty five ft round pick. That team 658 00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:22,920 is a dumpster fire behind the scene. This is unprotected. This pick conveys 659 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:27,400 after a dejahn Ty Murray's current contract. So is he gone? Has Trey 660 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,519 Young made a trade demand? It's in Atlanta's twenty twenty five pick. It 661 00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:35,320 could technically be the Spurs his own, but I think that I think that 662 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,400 what you're gonna do is you're going to prioritize that that Atlanta pick. That 663 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,480 would be the smartest way to go rolling into the final stretch. Here we 664 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,559 have the Raptors, who are the hardest team for me. It's gonna be 665 00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:46,679 o g you could go with their future picks, It's not. It's not 666 00:37:46,679 --> 00:37:49,960 gonna be Fred van Fleet. Maybe. I mean, I guess they made 667 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,400 everybody else off limits, but I don't know who needs to be off limits. 668 00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:53,559 Siakam is a little bit too old, and so if you're if the 669 00:37:53,599 --> 00:37:57,960 Raptors aren't making blockbuster trades because they want to win with Siakam still, so 670 00:37:58,119 --> 00:38:00,719 he's off the table, it's Barnes around it, Noby, and it comes 671 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:05,079 down to whether it's Scottie Barnes untouchable. We know that he was untouchable and 672 00:38:05,159 --> 00:38:08,679 Kevin Durant discussions. How serious were those discussions. The Raptors weren't on Katie's 673 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:14,719 public list to prefer trade destinations, so like that could have impacted whether they 674 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,559 had Scottie on the table. I also think that all of us, I 675 00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:20,599 mean, and I'll speak only for myself, but many of us. Then, 676 00:38:20,679 --> 00:38:23,039 let's say, overthought the entire situation with kemn Urran over the summer. 677 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,840 You trade Scotty Barnes if it means getting Kevin Durant. I'm like, that 678 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,440 should have just been the stance, and that's going to be my stance I 679 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,280 take here. If you're going to acquire a top even fifteen to twenty player, 680 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,719 I would trade Scotty Barnes. He's been better of late, and I'm 681 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,480 sort of running as a point center making plays out of the short role. 682 00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:40,199 Screening has been better. Looks like really more engaged on defense, but he 683 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,480 hasn't really moved the needle on defense or improved there this season. And he 684 00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:47,960 could be such like a niche fit on offense. That would teams be scared 685 00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:53,639 of sort of trying to make him their their pole prospect moving toward the basis 686 00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:59,639 around everything they're they're building. Maybe, but I think from the Rappers perspective, 687 00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:00,800 you put them on the table more so if you were going after those 688 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,920 talks and it's not him, it's Ogianna. No, we just to end 689 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:07,639 up story. But I think also do both have to be involved if you're 690 00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:09,719 acquiring a star depends on the player. The other thing you could say, 691 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,000 though, is like if it's Scotty Barnes picks and salary and you get to 692 00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:16,400 keep o giannaob Witziakam and Van Fleet while acquiring a star, you're gonna have 693 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:22,679 the more attractive championship window right now. The Utah Jazz, who this is 694 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,320 hard Larry marketing, I think would be a lot of people's picks because they 695 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,960 don't view him as a star. Dude, it's about to make an All 696 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,719 Star team. He's going to be in the conversation as a starter now given 697 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,039 all the other injuries that have happened in the West front court. So it's 698 00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:37,920 like, if you're making a blockbuster trade, you're doing it to pay Larry 699 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,559 marketing with that star, so I moved him off the table. Now we 700 00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:45,440 get into the picks. It's not one of the Cleveland picks, Like, 701 00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:47,239 yes, you shorted their long term future, but they're young and good, 702 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,920 so you did things go wrong and Dona Mitchell leaves or eventually request a trade 703 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,000 like or Evan Mobley's and as good as we expect that they just they have 704 00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:59,000 so much like reinforcement because they have like a big four essentially right now, 705 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,360 it's not one of their picks, So is it a jazz pick maybe, 706 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,480 but like they're still too good at the moment they've dropped below five hundred. 707 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,559 I think they will be sellers at the deadline and probably should be, we're 708 00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:14,119 being honest. Or maybe they'll just be opportunistic buyers, but like their pick 709 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,320 is not going to be as valuable as Minnesota's pick this year. Maybe possibly, 710 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,320 but let's look forward because maybe Minnesota figures it out. Or if you're 711 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,480 a team that's trading a star or a big name of the Utah Jazz, 712 00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:27,639 you want to think bigger and kind of roll the dice. I would imagine 713 00:40:27,639 --> 00:40:30,119 just because Minnesota is they're bad, but they're not bad enough. If Towns 714 00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:34,639 come When Towns comes back, they should be better. Let's move forward, 715 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,079 and I'm looking at is it the twenty twenty seven pick. It's not twenty 716 00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:40,480 twenty nine, that's top five protected. I went with twenty twenty five just 717 00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:45,280 because Rudy Gobert well into his thirties. What does this team look like? 718 00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:49,239 If the Timberwolves missed the playoffs this year, we're gonna start to hear about 719 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,639 Karl Anthony Towns trades. It's just a matter of fact. Could Andy Edwards 720 00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:55,599 even become disenchanted by that point by twenty twenty five? There's just so much 721 00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:02,119 variability combustibility in Minnesota that twenty five it's close enough. We're talking three drafts 722 00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:05,199 away, so where it's like, all right, I can see it, 723 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,719 and the Jats have other stuff to give us. And then it's also like 724 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,599 it's far enough away. This ship could go wrong. This ship could go 725 00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:13,360 sideways. It's already gone sideways, and we're gonna try and capitalize on that 726 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,360 final team, the Washington Wizards. They just have no options here. You're 727 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,159 not Bill is not your blockbuster trade asset if you're making a blockbuster trades, 728 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,679 because you're trying to win within his window your own first round picks. If 729 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,960 I'm a team, yeah, I want them. When can I get them 730 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,639 their pick protection to the Knicks, it's for eternity this year. It can 731 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,760 leak out all the way until two twenty six. Could you trade a conditional 732 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,440 first round pick? Yes? If you're another team, how much do you 733 00:41:38,519 --> 00:41:43,519 value the idea of the Wizards reaching the playoffs this season next season so that 734 00:41:43,559 --> 00:41:46,679 you can get a pick in twenty six like you did. I don't know 735 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,519 their first guaranteed first round pick that they could trade at this moment would be 736 00:41:51,519 --> 00:41:53,599 two and twenty eight. That's just too far if you want to wait that 737 00:41:53,639 --> 00:41:57,079 long. Yale, Okay, Bradley Beal is gonna be ancient, might be 738 00:41:57,119 --> 00:42:00,840 traded by then. I didn't go with it. You could go with Denny 739 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,079 Avdia. That's my that's my guy. It's that Ruby's entering different agency even 740 00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:06,239 better this year. Looks a little bit more fluid on offense, like a 741 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,280 player who sort of coming into his own just you have to pay him and 742 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,320 he's not a he's not center piece material. Denny Abby is not high volume 743 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,960 enough for me on offense, even though he's really showing some moxy off his 744 00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:19,119 dribil penetration this year. It's both a pastor and an efficient score. But 745 00:42:19,159 --> 00:42:21,760 again, it is he high volume eno of his score in those situations. 746 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,280 And so is it Daniel Gafford, it's not Christops Porzingis. You're still gonna 747 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,920 be worried about his lower body injuries his next contract. So it's like, 748 00:42:29,639 --> 00:42:31,119 who is it? Is it Corey Kissbert, No, it's not Corey Kissbert, 749 00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:35,559 it's you. They don't even like, does Washington know that Johnny Davis 750 00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:37,559 exists? He's injured right now, he'd barely seen the floor beforehand. No, 751 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,920 it's Kyle Kuzma. He's an expiring contract player option next season. But 752 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,480 but he's really good and he fits onto so many different teams, And so 753 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,840 maybe this is a situation where ye, okay, can you step ladder Kyle 754 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,199 Kuzma plus literally every other attractive thing that we have, Denny Avdia, Corey 755 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,960 Kissburt. We're gonna give you that twenty twenty eight first round pick. What 756 00:42:55,079 --> 00:42:58,840 kind of discussion does that get you into? Is it a sleeper package for 757 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,840 like an og Hana Nobi if he becomes available. I'm just throwing shit out 758 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,480 there. So it's Kyle Kuzma to me, just because he's really good. 759 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,000 He's affordable, getting his bird rights matters, because he's not super ancient. 760 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,880 He's twenty seven, so his next deal is gonna take him through his prime. 761 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,599 If you can keep him, you have to know that you're going to 762 00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:15,400 keep him. Though. Let me hope you disagree with any of these picks. 763 00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:20,280 Please remember to subscribe to us YouTube and podcast players that does the most 764 00:43:20,519 --> 00:43:22,440 for us ratings and reviews on iTunes, help out a ton or Apple whatever 765 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,440 it's called now, and finally join our discords at leak too. That's in 766 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,719 the podcast description. Follow us on the socials and discord though. Let's bump 767 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,800 that. Like we're kind of just stalled. 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