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of fun stuff. Today's pre show. It was a fiery pre show.
You'll want to pay to hear it. Hey, if you really want to
hear about Wolfie's dating life, Zach's Mormon house of debauchery, right, I
don't, I got nothing. I had nothing for this pre show. Tim
debating boys and girls as grown adults. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, Tim
hating the words boyfriend and girlfriend. Yeah, if you're over like, I
don't know, nineteen, that's that's are those are not the right terms anymore?
Says you. Yeah, that's me. Hey, oh go ahead,
Zack. I was gonna say, said Tim, what if you're dating with
four nineteen and then you like turn nineteen together, can you still be boyfriend
girlfriend? You gotta like change your title? Then? Yeah? No,
I think that's okay. We can coverrote an exception for them. But you
better be getting married at some point, because you can't carry that on for
too long. If you're thirty and you're still not married and you're still boyfriend
girlfriend, it's also screwed up. You gotta go like life partner or something.
You gotta have a better word for it. I was over thirty,
wasn't married yet and girlfriend and boyfriend. Yeah, well look at you.
Look at you. Supposed to listen to the almost forty four year old divorce
guy for advice like this, Yeah, you don't know nothing. You don't
know nothing, all right? This episode, guys, episode number four,
it's called World on Fire. I get the impression that Ben in this house
is the emotional sponge because we had Kelly Inn talked to him last episode.
This time it's John A, and he just has these wide eyed, this
like glassy look to him, like he doesn't know what to do. He
just sort of smiles and nods as people tell him about the world's problems.
This time it's John A talking about how poorly Kelly Inn has been treating her
lately, including yelling at the top of her lungs and then yep and then
a cut to kelly Ann not really yelling at all, just like barely raising
her voice. Really, what did you guys think of this? Is Johnny
lying to Ben on purpose or did she really interpret that as a yell?
Or what's going on here with this whole conversation. I think she may have
ut overreacting a little bit. Yeah, I agreed, Well, I think
I think, you know, just in the hear of the moment, it
felt like it was worse than it really was. You don't think john a
was exaggerating for sympathy or something like that. I think, to a small
degree, manipulating poor Ben's emotions. I could see that. Well. As
they're talking, Kelly and also walks into the room, it gets a little
awkward. She sees them and just turns around and walks right at the room,
a little bit awkward. We cut to Tristan. He's upset because kelly
An is supposed to be like the mentor, She's supposed to be the legend
kind of helping this new guy through the game, but instead Tristan is having
to go around the house sort of cleaning up message that she's making, calming
the fires, kind of settling her down and politicking his way around Kelly Ann's
behavior. Destris did have a point here, guys, Is that what's going
to happen here? Is that what's happening here? I feel like he has
a point. She is supposed to be the veterans, she's supposed to know
how to maneuver through the house, and she is just blowing up her game
completely, just kind of by overacting. Kind of agree, Zach, what
do you think? Yeah? I think so. I think, you know,
I think there's a lot of these rookies didn't want to talk a big
game like they can do everything, but you know, I do think at
the end of the day, they fall back on their their veterans to kind
of guide them. Can I play Devil's advocate here for a second? Is
it possible, though, that Kelly Inn knows she's playing this give enough to
know that they've already thrown her name out, they will continue to throw her
name out, and so her goal should be to like sort of get on
the offense and start naming other names that can all would be thrown out if
you just sort of play nice and don't make this thing a big issue,
They're still gonna keep saying your name right. I mean, she's not making
it worse by doing this, No, but I think she's pissing off everybody
else in the house who will be more apt to say her name now.
Yeah. And I mean there is something too, which we'll find out later,
where everybody's like, well, we've all already said Kelly Ann's let's just
keep doing it. Well, I mean I feel like if you were a
little quieter, maybe somebody else would have a blow up and put a big
target on their back. I make your life long ease here. Yeah.
Maybe who knows. But that's not Kelly Enn's game obviously, No, never
is. We get to my favorite part of the episode, Zach probably yours
too, where West looks like a loser. He's sitting there in the kitchen
bragging to Troy and Grant about like how successful his businesses and he's a venture
capitalist and he's investing in these things and he's doing this and he's blah blah
blah blah blah blah, and they're just sort of feeding West what he wants
to hear. They're like, oh, man, you're you're smart. You're
really good at business. Yeah, you're good. West is confessional, is
saying how they're fanboys and how they're so impressed by him and he's got them
wrapped around their finger, and then it cuts to their confessionals where they both
say, yeah, I don't trust West at all. I don't believe a
word that comes out of his mouth. Does West just not understand the Aussies
sort of disposition? He seems to think that they're smitten, but it doesn't
seem like they are. Yeah, I think so. I think you know,
he's used to these rookies, you know coming on that have watched the
show more often, and you know, idolize all these players growing up.
And yeah, they're just like, we don't care who you are. And
they seem to know enough about him to know, like not to trust him,
which once again is uh, why Bananas as a superior player, because
no one's concerned about the seven time winner, even if we leave Bananas out
of the equation. Though, what this episode revealed to me in this conversation
as part of it, these are not your normal rookies. And I know,
like I look at them as rookies. You guys probably too too,
Maybe not use X since he watched the other ones, but these are players
are not rookies. They've played before and sometimes they've played aggressively, and they're
just sort of not taking the shit of these legends at all. And I
think it's I think the legends it's kind of throwing them off a little bit.
Yeah, I don't know. I think West is just out of touch.
Maybe it's the weird language barrier, but just culture barrier, just sort
of not picking up on this whatsoever. Yeah, Yeah, Carlin says West
looked like a douche. He did, for sure. Joker says he's crunching
on Kelly, and I think he meant crushing. Those two things mean very
different things. But me too. Kelly Anne is a firecracker, I'm sure,
and it's a friend of the show obviously. I think she's a little
crazy, but I'm kind of into that. And also, you know,
pale skin, dark hair, it's sort of my thing. Yeah, it's
time, Tim, Yeah, maybe I shouldn't. Girlfriend. I never thought
like I never got the Kelly Anne hype, like in terms of attractiveness what
until we met her in person and I was like, I totally get it.
Yeah, No, she's gorgeous. She's always saved herself at the end
there's all right, we gotta we get a little conversation between Casey and Bananas.
Guys. I'm ashamed to admit this, but I kind of like Casey
this season. Oh maybe it's the absence of Fessie and Josh. I don't
know, but she seems to like have personality sometimes. Um, she's talking
to Bananas and they're kind of joking around, mostly about West, saying how
hard he's playing and how he's just sort of making an idiot out of himself,
which so weird that Tim's all into this, serrying how much of a
West fan he is. Well, I like Wes, but like, come
on, I know when West is being a douchebag and he was, this
was prime douche idiot West right here. I think we've all agreed before that.
You know, Katy must have a good personality because she always goes on
these shows and as well liked she just she's boring on TV. Yeah,
and I think her confessionals are what rubs me the wrong way because she like
has this weird hype mentality. It's like a it's like Derek. You know,
Derek does the weird hype man stuff too, and it's it just seems
inauthentic, and I don't know, I just don't like it. It just
rubs me the wrong way. Um, all right, next scene we get
is Tori and Rodrigo. They're salsa dancing. I know, I feel like
we've seen Rodrigo salsa dancing a couple times now. I don't need to do
this anymore. I'm all set well spoiler alert, um, but I do
like Rodrigo. But he says in one of his confessionals, he says,
how do I make alliance? As if I can't even talk to anybody?
I think, Yeah, his language barrier seems a little harder to get over
than a lot of the other Argentinians. Zach, what's your energy? What
should he do if he can't talk to people? What's he supposed to do?
Take his clothes off? It seems to be what he's doing. He's
wooing them with dancing. Yeah, needs to lose the pants. Remember when
Tori was hit on that Dracula dude that one season, the yeah the Romanian
Jordan, Yeah, yeah, I do. I forget his name though,
What the fuck is that guys saying Dracula? That's the great thing I love
about Tori is you know, he see some of these guys he dates,
So she always has that image of being like, oh yeah, if I've
ever met her, I totally have a chance. It seems like she's got
a wide array of people that she's attracted to. I guess that's good.
All right. We get Jordan and Nia by the pool talking. She's really
worried because Argentina seems to be targeted here, and she has obviously paired up
with an Argentinian, so she's really concerned about that, and then that kind
of segues into talking about her struggles with vaping. She was, I guess
severely addicted and I ended up in the hospital. It didn't get into like,
oh, Carlos is Emmanuel That's right. It didn't get into too many
specifics. Do you know more about this, Zach from following them on social
media? I don't know anything about this Nia vaping thing. I like when
she said it kind of rang a bell, but I don't remember the details
of it. I was shocked. I'd like, I didn't realize it was
that bad where I could like hospitalize you. Yeah, it seems really bad,
and it seems like she's taking it seriously now finally, and the challenge
is part of overcoming this addiction. She says she's even more motivated to win
to kind of help her get over this addiction and health issues. Yeah,
I'm just curious what this, like, what this entails she has, says
vaping, and that kind of can mean, like, you know, I
don't know what substances she's vaping, because you know, vaping is more of
an apparatus than telling us sort of what. But she was vaping. Yeah,
I mean maybe it was just regular shit you can buy in the store.
I don't know, but I know lots of people the vape, but
none of them I'm not saying, like it, Oh, this would never
happen. Maybe just her body chemistry it just doesn't agree with vaping. But
yeah, it's just it's just weird, Yes, does it? Does?
She you know, got a pulmonary embolism from it? Jesus. She didn't
say how much, but she said that she was doing it quite a bit,
like and it's always in secret, so she's always having a sneak off
because no one like knew she vaped. Yeah, strange. Yeah, I
should do more research and figure out what was going on. Then it's kind
of weird, all right. We get Jody and Darrell talking. Nice to
see these old school road rulers chatting. I really like this. Durrell's talking
to Jody about Benja, and Jody is just sort of exasperated. She's like,
I don't even know where the guy is right now. It cuts to
him and he's just they're meditating by the pool, just in his own little
zen state. Benj is weird, right, He's a weird guy, spera
super weird person. He's weird, but I mean he's he's the like harmless
weird that you'd probably still want to hang out with him. Oh yeah,
I want to be his best friend. He's amazing, but he's also an
awkward weird that sometimes you like don't know what to say to him and don't
know how to react to what he says. It seems like Jody is struggling
here with this, and I would be too. Every time we see them
in a confessional together, she looks at him like he's a space alien or
something, like she doesn't know what to think of him. He's a weirdly
weird person. Joker says, sure, I look at vaping and ask how
could inhaling chemicals possibly hurt? I guess I'm just saying, yeah, I
mean I could definitely say I could hurt on the long run, but you
know, I don't think someone like you know, she's in fairly good shape
and young, so you don't think it'd be something like that quickly that hits
her. Somebody just drop a yeah, but still and we can move on
from this one. Yeah, but still, there you go. Jody's also
worried. She's paired with an Argentinian. She feels like she's in danger.
She's right, it's very sad, all right. So we get Danny and
Grant. They're talking about throwing anither West or Jordan. I really like the
rest of this episode where Danny is on a fucking rampage. He is ready
to get out a big name, and he's not shy about it. He'll
talk to whoever is willing to listen about this plan. Big fan of Danny.
So he's talking to Grant. They're talking about throwing anither West or Jordan.
Danny says Jordan's not likely for his team just because he's paired up with
tor Um, and so maybe they focus on West. What do you.
What do you guys think of this plan? I like the plan. I
like Danny a lot, although I do got up when I believe this is
the second weekend ago that we got no Kiki. That was very sad about
that. Yeah, you're right, Yeah it is said, what's going on
getting divorced to our show? Cause them to get divorced just because we talked
about how much we love the Kiki shoutouts. This show is taken down,
Zach Wolfee me ct yeah, anybody else, take out anybody Jordan. It's
tragic. So you interviewed Jordan's right hipatory got engauged and it broke off.
Yeah, Laurel the coal broke up a man. This show shows curse got
Ashley and carry on Johnson. I don't know who that is Ashley Kelsey Blonde
Ashley from Oh Yeah, I remember, Yeah I've played Yeah, yeah,
I remember. Yeah. She's married to a pro football player and they just
got divorced like a year ago or so. Oh did they? I didn't
realize that. Okay, all right, guys, time for the challenge.
The crew they show up in this abandoned warehouse. I always love the warehouse
challenges. I think they look really cool. Yeah, I agree. Yeah,
we'll get into it. TJS. There, you guys are gonna help
me with the pronunciation um of the other host's name, Brawnie. Is that
right, Zach? Did I get it? I think so. I don't
remember their name. I believe it is like Brawnie. It's spelled brijony b
r I h O n y, but everybody seems to and everybody says it
with an Australian accent, but it sounds like they're saying brawny. So that's
what I'm gonna go with. UM. Brownie's also there. TJ says that
they are working on this challenge together and this one's called the Gates All Carlin
says it's bon BRIONI okay, BRIONI probably. I'm gonna definitely mess that up
later when she when they come back towards the end of the episode. I
really liked this challenge though. It's like in the Indiana Jones thing where the
where the things come down and you have to like slide under the thing,
and you liked this challenge. I did like this challenge very much. Challenge
was fucking stupid. You didn't like it, Zach, you're the tiebreaker.
Good or bad challenge. That's tough. Um, I gotta I think I
liked it. Fuck off both of you. Oh, there was like a
date, like an element of danger, some strategy in there. I like
the sliding under the thing. Why why didn't you like it? Willfe It
was just dumb. It's like, hey, run from this one gate to
the other gate. That's it. That's not it. The gate was closing
on that. It doesn't matter. It's stupid. That's the whole thing.
Though, multiple thing, there's multiple rounds where every team is safe. Yeah.
All I could think watching that is I was like, oh, but
what if someone tries to slide under and they get their head smashed? And
I believe Jody did. I was like watching, like, wait, how's
this working? All right? There's definitely more talk about the name in the
chat room. I'm absolutely not following. Carlin says, sorry, not Bree,
that I is a y sound. Rather say bon bon BRIONI makes more
sense. That sounds a lot like brownie if you say it with an accent.
Bright Brian Brianni, Yeah, I'm fucking this up, man, Chef
Boyard. I'm just a stupid American I can't say names if they're not American,
all right, And there's been some drama about this. Maybe we can
talk about this during the social media thing. But the rules are sort of
unclear. Danny has a problem with the rules on this one. UM always
has problems with the rules, you know, because Danny's a real competitor who
plays real sports and reality TV is not real sports, and so I think
he gets sort of wrapped up on like the sportsmanship and the fairness and and
it's like, that's not reality TV. I get what he's saying, but
it's like Danny just need to like and I like Danny a lot, but
it's sort of like lightning up DUDEUM. But anyway, so basically, one
teammate has to make it under the I'm sorry, both teammates have to make
another fence. If one teammate does not make another of the fence, the
whole the whole team is done. But he does say if if we go
to a stalemate, the first person to arrive at the gate is the winner.
But it still seems weird. I mean, the rules are not super
super clear. Jucker keeps saying he wore the star. I don't know what
that means. Keep saying Danny wore the star, Danny wore the Star.
I don't know. I don't know what that means either, that that is
he played some of Dallas Cowboys in their logo as a star. Okay,
fucking sports bullshit. Yeah, I don't get sports bullshit. But speaking of
sports bullshit, Danny is confident with this because this is like what football players
do. It's like you just sprint as fast as you can for this limited
duration and for like short bursts of speed. He's a very fast dude.
So Dan's going into this extremely extremely confidently. Yeah, yeah, all right.
He ran ran back and forth a lot. Yes, he did in
five rounds total. I think it wasn't that stupid, So I will say
this will be I did have a thought that this challenge some people. All
they did was run one time, like like thirty yards and then they're done,
and that was the whole challenge for the whole day. And yes,
even the winner probably spent one minute in ten seconds running or something like that,
and then that's the whole challenge. I feel like they could have involved
something else in it, maybe, But I liked the visuals of sliding under
the gate. I thought, I still, that was really cool. Dumb.
So in terms of this competition, I don't know. I didn't take
many notes. Um, Danny and Tory win, that's all it matters.
No, they don't. West winds Oh West does win? That's weird.
Did you watch the episode? Will be? Come on? Man? I
did? I did? I forgot, I forgot. West slides in and
like, I'm just like, did that dude just fucking get crushed by that
gate? We saw a couple like questionable moments. Jody looked like she was
gonna get her head torn off during that one scene. And then yeah,
West doing the stumble and the cart wheel and then getting stuck under the gate.
Very dramatic because they're in like the what do they call it? Sudden
death? Yeah, nobody was like neither team was losing a players, so
they had to uh um, somebody in our just I was like, what
talk I'm taking? Okay, uh I remember what I was talking about?
But uh so I went into sudden death because nobody neither team was losing the
player. Everybody kept getting in, so they had to do sudden death or
whoever reaches the gate first, and yeah, less just like shoves half his
body under it. Yep, yep, and so West kind of wins by
default. Danny has a problem with this, not during the show, but
in social media following it, that the rules were that both players had to
had to pass out of the gate. In this case, no, no
players fully did. Um. So I think Danny is a point. I
don't know, do you guys think Danny has a point here? I think
so. I saw that he also said like the kind of like the sudden
death roles were added you know, in post production that they were never told
that. Okay, that makes sense. Then it was clear that it was
added in post production. It was the typical TJ post production thing. And
that's the problem. We just we never know what they actually say. Yeah,
these are multiple times where we've been like, why didn't they do this?
And we're like, oh, maybe that was against the rules. We
don't know. Yeah. So yeah, because West got stuck under there as
well, like it should have been, it should have been, you know,
a redo. I think I'm with Danny. Yeah, I agree.
I think that the challenge I mean, like I said, it's not a
sports event, so I don't think they planned for every single outcome and they
make rules up as they go. I guess I've seen enough of this.
I kind of get that. I'd understand that's part of the show. Danny.
Danny's too fair of a person, too sportsman like, I guess.
So end of the day, Naya and Rodrigo they were in last place just
because Nia was the last to arrive at the gate the first time, or
even that seemed like a weird way to figure out who was the last place.
But whatever, there we are with this, all right, that's with
that. We are done with the challenge. We're back at the house.
Like we saw that, Rodrigo injured his ankle while doing the yeah yeah,
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Yeah, So you're back at the house Bananas, Tory, and Jordan.
They're with their respective partners. They're talking strategy, game strategy. Bananas says
what he always says at this point in the game. He says, don't
go big too early. You got to just play it safe for now.
Just keep voting out the safe players, Zach Wolfee, Is this the right
plan? I think for Bananas and his crew it is. I don't know
if it is for some of like the the rookie veterans and other people,
but yeah, is definitely the right right move. Their rookies are always the
one that are the safe players to vote out. So for the rookies,
it's like, no, fuck that bullshit. Yeah, I just I think
it's a really interesting dynamic because this is what tends to happen on on these
seasons with new new players, and the new players are so stupid they just
sort of go along with what the legends say. And this season is different
because the MVPs are just sort of like not not doing that. So I
thought it was kind of cool seeing these old school players talk about the game
and then see the new school players disagree. We could overdo Kangaroo Court.
That's the Australians good Day. That's a really cool name for the Alliance,
right, Kangaroo Court. I like that. Sure, they're all talking about
who they should target and they sort of agree that it should be either Wes
or Jordans. So yeah, the new guys are they're going big. Yeah,
let's take out these big bets, get some big names out. Yep.
Cut over to Durrell. He says basically the same thing as Bananas said.
It's early in the game right now. Your strategy should be Lalo,
avoid big moves, just try to stay out of people's crosshairs, just make
nice with everybody and just try to hang on. What do you say of
that strategy? Yeah, it's kind of weak. I mean, I feel
like that's always been kind of Durrell's. You know, mo is just kind
of laylow, go with the flow, and then just when when he needs
to. Yep. Yeah, that's also boring. I know, I just
don't want the show to be boring this season. Some seasons I'm just like,
oh my god, well, somebody just fucking do something interesting. Yeah.
I don't think Durrell is gonna make any waves, but I like the
other players making waves around Darrell. I'm fine with that sort of dynamic.
Agreed, all right, So we get Danny, Ben, Tori, and
Justine. They're all talking. I thought this was a really interesting talk because
three of the four kind of agree, like we should go big, we
should aim for a big name, somebody that we don't want to see in
the finals. The only person that disagrees is, of course, Tory Um,
and that's because Jordan is one of those aforementioned big players. Yeah,
which after last season, you figure. I mean, I know they made
up and stuff at the reunion and on the show blah blah blah blah blah,
but it seems like after last season she'd be a little bit more like,
look, I'm not gonna say Jordan's name, but I mean somebody else
does. I can't stop you. I agree, it seems like she's trying
a little too hard to protect him. It seems a little weird, right,
Yeah, not only based on their history, but also, as Danny
says, Tory is his partner and Tori is not looking out for him.
Tori's looking out for Jordan. Yeah, so she's got her priorities a little
messed up. So Danny says his really, his only strategy is to take
out Tori's number one so that that way he can be her number one.
Yeah, so he's going for Jordan. I don't know what do you guys
think? Is this the right mover? Is they gonna piss Tory off if
he targets Jordan too harsh? Oh, it'll piss her off, but maybe
it'll end up working in her in his favor, just because she will have
to then sort of hold on to him her own survival. So yeah,
so I think if if Danny has in his mind that he thinks at some
point they're going to be split up from their partners and be like an individual
game, it's a smart move. Otherwise, I think you definitely check your
of Jordan later in the game, but early on, like as long as
you know toris his number one, that benefits you as well. I mean,
yeah, until the final when Jordan wins. Yeah, I definitely think
near the end you need to check him out, like middle or late game.
I think early game there's no rush unless you think, like middle of
the game, it's gonna be like, all right, we're breaking you guys
up and your individuals or your new pairs or something. Yeah. Well,
the other thing to think about too, with Jordan, you might need a
couple of attempts to get that guy out. You might need two or three
tries. And if you wait until the middle of the game before you even
try and then he starts winning, you know, you might not have many
chances to get him out. It's like, if he's available to be thrown
in. I think Danny's thing is like, let's throw him in, you
know, if he doesn't win, if he's if he's there to be thrown
in, let's throw him in. Stand is showed up. He's saying the
man Arthur fist emoji too, you all for kicking me out of the ten
dollars level. It didn't auto add me to the five dollars level. For
shame, fellas for shame. We spent two weeks telling people to move to
the five dollar tier. Pay attention. We will not be guilted. Stand
the man, how dare you? Hey Stan? We miss you? All
right? And with that guy, as we're into the house debate, right,
it's close enough, wessons are they're sitting in that room, they're the
winners. They're sitting in the room with the losers, Naia and Rodrigo.
They're waiting for the names to come across on the TV screen. The house
is debating. It's not much of a debate, guys. Pretty much every
single person in the room, says Tristan and Kelly Anne and ode In benjam
There was some just that was about what I was gonna say. Yeah,
nothing else matters here, all right, So well you can talk about Kelly
Ann's big speech again the same yeah, basic, right, But like I
don't hate her, Freddy of this. I think she's doing what she needs
to do for sort of self preservation. She needs to sort of plant those
seeds of doubt of like are you really doing the right thing? Like think
about who you want to see in a final she doesn't have any options here,
but that's one of her options and she's doing it. I don't have
a problem with that, do you. Uh No, But I always feel
like it just falls on deaf ears. So it just always looks like,
oh, desperate, it's the right word, but everybody just sort of rolls
their eyes, are like, sure, Kelly An, it's probably a little
desperate, but she is a little desperate. So so she says the desperate
thing. Um West says, as they so the yeah, the people that
are elected or nominated or whatever phrase though that they are using Tristan and Kelly
and Jody and Benja, so Wesson's are We'll need to pick from one of
those. They will battle Naya and Roder in the elimination thing. We says.
They'll ask for Nia's preference as to who she might want, but they're
not gonna put a lot of weight on what she wants. It's just that
if what Nya wants aligns with what they want, they can sort of lie
and put that preference on Naya and not take any blame for that. Good
strategy or not, guys, I mean, sure, it's again, it's
West as usual, like well, keep the blood off our hands, sort
of like what Jean was supposed to do with fucking Nelson and which she didn't
do. Yeah, she could have easily done that, right, She should
have lied? Yeah, well, she didn't have to lie. She literally
did what Nelson wanted, but she didn't tell Kelly, and that that's true.
I guess I should she should have. She should have been less truthful.
Yeah, all right, And so after that we're back in the house.
We get Danny, Sarah, and Justine and they're all talking about how
maybe they damage some relationships with all this stuff, and maybe they went hard
for somebody to throw in and then obviously it didn't go their way, and
so all three are sort of talking like, did we piss anybody off?
Do we make any mistakes? Should we go and apologize, should we you
know, to do some damage control? What do we do? What do
you guys think? Did they burn bridges here? Did they piss people off?
Are they gonna have to answer for this later? What's going on?
Yeah? I think there's a cancel legends to kind of you know, like
people like Toy will put this in the back of our head, and I
could see a coming mount later, like you know, when some of the
other countries are gone, and being like, hey, Jordan, these you
know three really were trying hard to plot against you early on. Yeah,
I just think it's one of those things that nobody ever all the bets are
just like sort of like, I'm gonna remember that, but I'm not going
to make it a big deal until I have to, like later on.
Yeah, I think most of the Vets are not intimidated by these three.
They're just sort of dismissing them. And so, yeah, these three might
feel like they'd need to do damage control, but I frankly don't think Bananas
gives a shit that Wes is out there that I'm sorry that Danny is out
there trying to get West in, Like what does anybody care? You know?
I just think they're ineffective, So who cares? Yeah, I think
Johnny would like low key laugh if West got thrown in. I think so
too. There's some social media drama between those guys too. Oh bring that
up, Zach if you don't have it all right, So we get the
Barney guys, our first barnet to the season. This will last like forty
seconds, though, wasn't that bad. Yeah, we get a shot of
Benja. He's clearly super drunk and incredibly intense. He's talking about tearing people
apart and shit like that. Super weird. Did you guys notice this Turbo
version two? Really? What for somebody that's all very zen and kind of
goofball and weird like like Benja to for him to be talking about tearing people
apart? Super weird. And then we get Bananas talking to Danny, and
I kind of like this because I think what Bananas was doing was trying to
tell Danny, like, back off, back off the vets. I know
what you're doing. You're bet you're like kind of targeting the people that have
won, the people that are good at the game, and needed to back
off. But he didn't say it like that. He was basically saying,
like, you know, you think we're playing against you, but we're playing
with you and we're peers in this game. Um, how full of shit
is Bananas? Zach? Totally? Totally? And what should he be doing
instead of this weird conversation? Um, well he's thought, yet, UM,
I'm not sure what else you should be doing. I think this was
good, you think it's good. What he should be doing is telling Danny,
look, I get it. I'm on your side, bro, tm
USA don't need to be going out for being some vets. Kelly Ann over
there, she's a vet. We take her out, right, I cusa,
you are right. Well, if that is what he should be doing,
he should be leading on the USA thing, and that's it. And
like, let let Danny aim for West and Jordan, uh, because yeah,
Jordan, Jordan's not USA, right, who's Jordan with Kaz you yeah,
uk, Yes, that's the that's the right strategy. Focus on the
US thing. Become allies. I feel like though that Johnny is wise enough
to have in most house, not just time. But you know, look
at kind of Danny and they see that, you know a lot of these
uh, these you know, rookies are kind of like they they realize it's
not country worse country, it's you know, teams worse teams, and past
relationships matters. So I almost feel like that might make the situation worse.
If you try to blow smoke up. Its about like, oh, it's
all about the country. But he is blowing smoke exactly, He is blowing
smoke. I think he's more clearly blowing smoke this way, saying like,
we're just we're peers in the game. You don't need to target us.
I think I think he's full of shit, and I think Danny sees right
through it. Yep, agreed. Oh yes, and that's my next note.
Actually, uh fucking can I just say, for the fourth time this
episode, I love Danny. He just tells Bananas straight up, right to
his face. He says like, yeah, we're not gonna do what you
say to do just because you say to do it. We're playing for ourselves
just like you are. Um, he did not buy Banana's bullshit for half
a second. I don't think he just that was it. He's done.
Yeah, okay, yeah, fuck him. I love Danny. All right,
guys, I know you were hoping, and you got it. We
got the slow my workout. Yes. I was so worried when they hit
bar night without a without a workout montage. I was like, Fuck,
we're not gonna get in this episode. But hey, don't worry, guys,
we got it. We transition right from the workout montage right into gearing
up another slow mo of people zipping clothing and shit like that stuff. We
definitely need to see on TV. Uh down at the elimination, TJ is
not even there, he is, yes, yeah, yeah he TJ is
not there. He's being abducted into the BMX Hall of Fame. Yes,
abducted, like you're going into this hall of fame, but you like it
her not? Yeah? Yeah, one of those laser beams and zapping right
up in there for a bag over his head. Anally probed him, yeah,
tearing his speech. It cut to some scenes of his like acceptance speech.
He mentioned his challenge, family and stuff. I don't kind of nice,
I gotta say, just like everybody on the show did give it up,
give it up for TJ being in the Hall of Fame. Congrats TJ.
So in TJ's absence, the Australian host is there. I'm not going
to try to say their name again. I embarrass myself enough. I'm not
going to try that one again. I think it's brawn yet. I pulled
up a video to listen to the local news say her name, and it
sounds like brawny. But then again, there's Australian accents there, so I
think the accent is screwed it up, and I don't remember anybody else sang
their name, and it sure does sound like brawny when they say it.
Uh, So I don't uh this this elimination is called oiled up first,
I guess we should say, wessons are they throwing Benja and Jody? Yeah?
Yeah, Why they do that? I don't know. I was a
little bit shocked because I thought, you know, the whole thing of just
you know, keep it, keep it how it was, you know,
you've already pissed off Kelly and why not just you know, like keep prising
end meant to make another one. Uh. They put the two Argentinian teams
against each other, shrink that time team down even more. I think that
was a strategy. Do you think Wes's relationship with Kelly Ann played any role
in this at all? Probably? I don't think. I think he might
have pissed her off last week, and so I think he was maybe trying
to like maybe make up for it a little bit, smooth it overtouch,
yeah, without without really having to do a lot. Again, He's like,
well, I could pick these two teams and they're on the same team
and they'll take each other out, or I could pick Kelly Inn, Like,
yeah, we'll just do the same two teams. It's fun. Yeah,
yeah, I think you know, I think Jody's a much better m
had did they thank Kelly in? But I think at this point he sees
like she has no political power or stands in the house, so like,
yeah, she's mad at me, like very low odds she wins a challenge.
So are you saying Jody or Kelly? Yeah, yeah, I think,
yeah, the consequences of pissing off Jody are not super severe, especially
if she's the only Argentinian team left and Benja is kind of a lunatic,
and yeah, she doesn't have any strong connections in the house. So yeah,
I think you're probably right, Zack. There's not a lot of risk
in pissing her off. This elimination is called oiled up. We've ever seen
this one before? I was kind of into it, though. I feel
like we've seen something similar though, have we? If not, maybe on
a daily challenge, I feel like we have seen. Yeah, people have
to run up and down and like dunk something in the tank up there,
don't tell us chat room, yeah, chat room, chime in. They
usually have some info. But yeah, there's a ramp. You gotta drag
buckets of oil up this ramp and dump them in the in another thing,
and if you dump enough oil into the other oil thing, then you win.
So it's Ni, Ni and Roderie versus Benja and Jody. Once again.
I don't have a ton of notes or a ton to say about this.
I liked this elimination that I thought it was really interesting to watch.
Yeah, that's fun. Lots of people slipping and sliding and knocking shit over.
It seemed like the person that could they could. I'm sorry, the
team that could do this the cleaner way is gonna win because the second that
oil starts getting on the ramp or on the rope, like, you're kind
of screwed. And right away Roderie and Naia had a bunch of oil everywhere,
and it wasn't clear in the beginning who was dropping and who was whatever,
but their ramp right way, it was all fucked up looking, and
Jody and Benjas stayed relatively clean the whole time. Yeah, it was really
impressed with Rodrey this goalne you know, with his injuries and the fact he
kept falling and he kept going like I feel like if he spoke better English
that that performance was guaranteed him at least one more appearance on the show.
Yeah. I really liked him too, I think. I mean, he
shows passion and he shows heart, and like Danny had really good things to
say about him. I feel like we didn't get to know him very well
because of the language barrier, and he's not a like a crazy person like
Turbo. He just sort of blended into the background a little more. Stan's
got some good strategy. Why didn't they walk up the middle and throw some
sand on it for grip? I do think they were throwing sand on it
because Ni and Rodri's especially was gross at the end with sand and dirt and
oil and there's all sorts of stuff all over that ramp. Carlin brings up
the Honey Challenge and exs or the balls in the middle of the soapy water
pit in War of the World's Too Man, Carlin is like an encyclopedia with
this stuff. Should be on the challenge podcast. Yeah, Carlin, start
your own. Um, yeah, so ill when all of a sudden done,
Jody and Benja they win. I don't I didn't really get any insight
is how close it was. People in the in the they were watching said
it was close, but I don't know. I couldn't tell that. Yeah.
Either, it seemed like sort of anti climatic. It's just oh okay,
they won. Yeah, dude. Even the editing didn't seem like they
were trying to pit him as being like neck and neck the whole time or
anything. So yeah, I agree, u Benja. He says he's bummed
he had to send home his good friend and a fellow Argentinian. Um naya,
she's crying. She's thinking Rogerie for being a good partner. Jody is
just pissed. She's ready to shake things up. Yeah, it's good for
Jody, scheck the up and shake things up. I agree. I want
to see Jody just get pissed and fucking rock this thing, because usually we
see Jody get like dejected and hurt and offended and shut down. Uh so,
Jody fucking rocket like, use that anger. Let's see it, Let's
see something happen. Yeah. Um yeah, And that's about it for the
episode. We end with Sarah saying that the Legends are just playing a different
game than the MVPs, and she refuses to be pushed around. Shut up,
Sarah, I'm not the biggest Sarah fan. But she's right here,
and I think, but I don't want her to be right. No,
I know you don't. If Danny were to say this, I'm like,
that's right. Since it's Sarah, I'm just like, fuck her. Yeah,
your with your attitude, your titlement. Does she have those things?
Yes? Yes, I don't know. That's just your opinion. Man.
Well, I feel like Danny actually won his final, where I again still
don't trust that Sarah wasn't given her final. So I'm with you. I'm
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Zach, Well, Kim mentioned earlier, so bring it up that, uh
that um, West seems to have called out Bananas for spreading propaganda, which
you know, Banana says he had rather spread that than ginge vitas. Do
you guys think this is real? And I feel like this is just them
kind of like having fun with each other. Probably it doesn't seem like fun,
but it seems fake. It seems like for a rival season or something.
I don't think West would get that upset about Bananas saying that West was
playing too hard. It's ridiculous. Yeah. Uh. And then also during
this last week, John a had been an interview with Newsweek and Kelly Ann
was on the Official Challenge podcast, and both of them basically stated that they
are starting to talk again, but right another relationship is rocky and they don't
know what the future holds in term of a friendship. Interesting, all right,
Yeah, I've seen a lot of discussion online about John Ay said this
and Kelly and said that, and who's right and who's wrong. I don't
know. I'm not that invested in this rivalry to care. Frankly, yeah,
I really yeah. I hope they may. I hope they are friends
again, though if that's what they want. Yeah, and that's that's basically
for social media. And then we kind of touched on it earlier with the
Danny complaining as well, yeah, gotcha. All right, Well, I
guess that's it for this episode of Challenge. This has been Brian big Legle,
Sweetie, Zachie Bananas. Um. I didn't have a quote for this
one, so as Sarah said, wineine wine wine wine. No, I
did not say I go say I the next bitch, yes child sho