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Everyone. It's Tuesday, January eighteen, twenty eleven, and you're listening to

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the Giant Bomb Cast. I'm Ryan
Davis, No Vindey Caravilla this week he's

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on vacation. But Jeff Gersman's here. Hello, I am here. Then

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Brad Shoemaker's here. I also am
sitting in this chair. And to fill

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the gaping hole in our hearts,
well, you know, I guess do

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what we can. Alex Navarro's here. I'm like a sort of cylindrical block.

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You're dropping into a giant square block, and it's to feel a little

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of the space Alex shaped peg and
even shape hoole, which is not going

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to fill the entirety of the space
movie. I read that slash fiction.

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Yeah, it's it's based on the
slash fiction the movie. Yeah you Alex.

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How's it going? That's going all
right? How you doing? Man?

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I'm well, I had I just
we just came off of a pretty

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kick ass three day weekends? Are
good? A kick ass star trek filled

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weekend? Yeah, yeah, a
lot of star trek happened this weekend.

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Man. You had a marathon on
on Monday to celebrate MLK Day, Martin

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Luther King, You know, Rachel
harmony and all that unity. Although although

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I think the our takeaway was that
there's just everything is space racist in Star

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Trek kind of ye, species is. Yeah, even when it's even when

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they're trying to be good about it, they're being pretty bad about it.

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But there are so many lessons in
understanding, and that's the thing that we

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can we can certainly get behind.
They at least throw the lessons in understanding

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out there saying that in the future
space is separate but equal, was it,

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I mean, that's why they have
the neutral zone think about it.

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Yeah, yeah, I guess Dyson
spears man, that's humans and romulans cannot

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drink at the same waters. But
until we get past this, petty.

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We watched a whole shipload of Star
Trek and we had we had cellular peptide

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cake with mint frosting and romulan ale. Yeah, I know, Gary Wooda

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totally made a cellular peptide cake.
Girl. I don't even know what I

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don't even know what that means.
So there's there's an episode where Data has

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dreams and they're weird, okay,
And in one of them, Counselor Troy

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is made out of cake and to
talk about what kind of cake it is,

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and it's cellular peptide cake with mint
frosting, says we are all full.

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So we so a cake was made
to look like Chance counselor Troy's torso,

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and we ate and we totally shock
it out there it is and it

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had mint frost man, because everybody
at all can see what I'm showing you

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right now. Yep, well it's
on the internet. It was super impressive.

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We've interneted it several times, breaking
science cakes. It was good.

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I mean it was just a regular
cake. Yeah, just we called it

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celli peptide cake. You can't actually
make cellar Peptides are like the things that

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keep cells together. Yeah, I
don't think you could make a cake out

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of them. Okay, but then
also but then also will Smith dry ice.

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So all of our drinks were smoky
and bubbly great, like even the

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most stuff we were drinking, like
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think blue food coloring was also brought
so just all drinks were blue and smoke.

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Yeah, nobody actually tried putting blue
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They didn't even have any beer.
We didn't really drink much beer. Yeah,

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I was putting drink. I was
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There was there was question about what
blue food coloring would actually do to

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beer, like a lot of people
thought it would turn green. I don't

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know. Green. Green is another
color of drink that is allowed in the

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Star Trek. That's probably that's probably
true. Also on Saint Patrick's Day,

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Yes, that's a that's a Star
Trek holiday. As Star Trek, it's

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a Romulan drinking holiday. Irish people
are in fact aliens. Chase the Klingons

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out of Ireland. I like to
crash the Saint Patrick's Day parade in my

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Star Trek uniform. It was a
great deal of fun, delightful just sit

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around with a whole bunch of nerds
and watch a bunch of Star Trek.

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Yeah, it's good. The Home
of Norman Shan. Yeah, I got

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to see Norm chance place test dot
COM's Norm Chan the the bat Chan Cave

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as he wants to call it,
a nice, nice place, nicely done.

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Uh, Alex Barrow, Yes,
did you get it anything else?

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Over the weekend? Uh? I
actually uh yeah. I spent basically Saturday

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and Sunday doing absolutely nothing I didn't. I did not leave the house at

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all on Saturday and barely left on
Sunday, and amid that, I was

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playing some games here and there.
I've been playing Rascals, a little bit

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of Rascals Ros Skulls Schools. Yeah. No, i'men playing a little bit

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of that. I like it.
It's good. It's it's a neat little

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uh to finish it yet. No, I haven't finished it yet. I'm

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I've only been playing in little fits
and starts, but it's uh, it's

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I've been I've been enjoying the humor
and the uh the puzzly needed, like

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the race puzzles of that game,
I think are kind of neat. I

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like that they very like the nature
of the levels. But it's a pretty

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short game and and I kind of
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that I needed out of it by
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super short. If you're critical path
it's what I'm saying. What I'm saying

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is like I didn't really feel I
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hard. They really do. Some
of them are like meat Boy hard.

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Yeah, So I've been playing something
that game. As we discussed that game,

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does not have meat boy controls.
No no no no no no no.

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So playing some of that I I
I downloaded iland My Up and playing

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a little of that too. Haven't
gotten as far into that one. It

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seems cute, but I also feel
like I definitely need a partner to play

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that game with because buy yourself it. No, you don't know, I

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don't the multiplayer, I mean,
I might be beneficial to have someone sitting

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there looking at it. Also,
that is, the multiplayer is not not

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good. It's just frustrating because it
is exactly the same as the single player,

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except when you switch off, someone
else controls that person. It's not

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simultaneous. And then yeah that person
because you're just like, spend the camera

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that way and then go over there
and pick that up and they're okay,

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I don't want that. Then yeah, I don't know. I mean it's

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that game seems cute and fun,
but I also I can also see those

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puzzles getting really sious and difficult after
a while. It sounds like a game

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that would destroy relationship. Yeah,
yeah, definitely. But other than that,

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you know usual stuff, uh rock
Band and you know various other XBL

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The games I've been playing for the
last five years, so you know more

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Tan, Yeah great, Yeah,
I'm predictable. Do you run into the

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same people playing Katan? Almost never? Wow, we're almost never. Do

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you ever have a hard time getting
a game? More so these days?

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But yeah, it's uh, you
know, there's there's usually some people online.

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Well, if if you're down for
some other types of German board gaming,

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I think we might be playing some
Ticket to Ride. I've never played

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Ticket to Ride live, like an
actual like a board game on TNT this

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week, like an actual board game. Yes, I don't like a real

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I don't. I don't know how
to deal with that meat meat space.

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I don't know how to deal with
things that are I really I really enjoy

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I enjoy meat space. What well, what do you hate more meat space?

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Or when people refer to paper or
magazines or anything as dead trees,

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I've never never heard of that,
the dead Trees edition of your magazine.

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Both of those are terrible. Never
met anyone that actually talks that way.

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So, yeah, you're hanging out
with the wrong people if you're hanging out

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the trees and going yeah all the
time, we'll see. That's how I

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hear meat space. It's the same
those are the same thing. Okay,

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so let's just say I don't know
tabletop, I don't know. I bought

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a kindle, So no more dead
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of here. Terrestrial radio yeah,
what you know? Not satellite radio,

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okay, terrestrial radio, yeah,
make a difference. I don't know anyone

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who listens to its wave because then
the signal originates on the ground but then

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bounces off of the sky and comes
back. That's that's extraterrestrial, because like

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extra out of because the aliens run
the number stations. That's the part that

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they haven't revealed yet. Do you
do anything non game related? Alex Navaro?

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I watched some movies. You know, I can moped around the apartment.

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I'm writing a thing for screened on
a pair of LARPing documentaries, Dark

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on Is I want to actually watch
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Monster Camp over this this past weekend. And that one is those two movies

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cannot be more different in tone and
tenor and and like humor. It's like

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Monster Camp is like these sort of
fun Look look at these nerds. They're

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hanging out and they're just doing their
larpin thing. And dark On is like

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deathly serious, with like helicopter shots
of like landscapes and like dudes like screaming

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and battle dress and shit. It
is. It is unbelievable. I have

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wanted to see dark On for years. It's on, it's on, this

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is streaming. You should totally watch
it. It's great. It's it's great

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and tragic. It's just so tragic. So is it. Like the filmmakers

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are taking it super serious, are
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people In both cases, the people
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seriously. But Monster Camp is a
much lighter and sort of like just you

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know, kind of look at these
nerves, these nerds, they're doing funny

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stuff. They're weird, you know, look at the weirdos. Dark On

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like it treats it with like it
sort of has the same understanding that they

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are, in fact nerds and dorky
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watch and sort of laugh at from
a distance. But then like there are

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all these scenes that they stage,
like from the dark On role playing that

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are done in this like very Lord
of the Rings. There's sort of like

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cinematic presentation with like helicopter shots of
the Maryland landscape, like it's it's really

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intense running across it with padded swords
like maybe fifty but yeah, that's you

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know, they it's definitely there is
a seriousness to it that is hysterical.

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And I enjoy those people like that
game, right, Yeah, and you

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see what the rest of their life
is like, and that's where the tragedy

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comes in. I was gonna say, I could totally see the deep diving

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on the personal lives and and that
being pretty There's a guy in Monster Camp,

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bummer who follow any of us home. I'm should that be real?

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Uh? Who would you to put
on camera as well? Yeah, there's

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a dude in in in Monster Camp
who has he lives with his roommate who

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works at fred Meyer. He does
not have a job. Okay, he's

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spends an entire day playing j RPGs
in World Warcraft. He does not cut

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his fingernails. Uh, and he
has been a high school senior for four

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years. All right. So that's
that's the level of of of folk you're

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dealing with here. So it's like
an American movie but padded swords, yeah

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kinda Yeah, terrific tragedy all around. But yeah, that was my weekend,

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a nutshell tragedy all around. So
some Star Trek and then some Star

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Trek. Fantastic, Jeff Gersman.
My weekend was similarly tragedy all around because

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I spent large portions of it playing
DC Universe Online PlayStation three version no less.

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Yeah of dc U. O tell
me about your dude. My dude

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is powered by ice. Okay,
his name. I'm not gonna say his

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name, Okay, because I don't
want to be harassed by other people playing

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the game. You don't want to
ruin your DC Universe Online experience. Yeah,

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your secret. I'm not quite done
playing it, So until I'm done

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playing it, nothing Ice man,
he has powered by all you figured.

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Now wait by that, do you
mean meth and phetamines or do you actually

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just mean ice ice Ice? Okay, yeah, that's one of the I

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picked Superman for my main guy.
Uh though, that stuff I don't Yeah,

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I don't know that that game.
When we did the quick look and

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saw an hour of it and then
he played an hour of it, I

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was like, man, why would
anyone want to play this game? And

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now that I've played about fifteen hours
of it or something like that. It

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is, uh that that feeling has
completely intensified. It's just there's just such

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there's there's nothing to it as a
game, you know. It's like the

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character creator is still kind of the
best part of it. They do a

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really shoddy job with kind of putting
you in touch with the old DC heroes.

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Most of them just like pop up
in like tiny circles like, oh,

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here's Batman's face talking to me about
how we need to go fight the

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Joker's Batman remotely right, like he's
not even there. Yeah, yeah,

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And then you know, you get
into these instances where and where you do

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encounter kind of the real guys,
like last night, I uh protected the

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Riddler who was being attacked by death
Stroke and that was like a boss fight

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basically at the end of this instance, and that happened. I don't know.

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Yeah, it's it's just you know, you basically, yeah, you

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fight your way through all the instances
to get to an encounter that includes dudes

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you might actually care about, but
then those aren't especially well done. You

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fight Poison ivy, well, actually, you don't even fight Poison ivy.

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You fight a bunch of tree dudes. And you fight Robin, who is

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under her control, and I don't
know, the game does a really bad

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job of making any of these named
superheroes and villains seem powerful at all,

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Like the very intro game which you
guys saw. Yeah, you know,

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you fight alongside Superman or if you're
a villain Lex Luthor fighting all these brainiac

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robots and you're just whipping these robots
asses. You're tearing them apart. And

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if you stop and actually look at
Superman, he is not And and anytime

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you fight alongside guys like you fight
alongside the Titans, I guess the teen

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Titans. They just call him the
Titans. Okay, you know it's like

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four of them or something like that, or three of them. You have

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to beat up all of them.
They're all under mind control, one at

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a time, and you just work
them. You know, it's you beat

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the crap out of Robin. And
granted, you know they can kind of

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say, oh, he's being controlled
by somebody, so he's not as awesome

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as he would but like you're totally
outclassing like death Stroke and these you know,

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kind of named meaningful guys while you're
a you know, I'm a level

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twenty two ice guy and it's it's, It's, it's it does a really

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bad job of making any of these
guys seem formidable. Basically. It also

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seems like most of the time they're
just like fucking store guys or quest givers.

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Well there's a lot of that too. Some some guys actually uh dual

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role in the game, Like Aquaman
is always up on the on the watch

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tower on the space station selling stuff, but then there's a whole separate quest

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chain where you gotta, I think
pretty sure you fight a mind controlled Aquaman

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because the Atlanteans are coming to surface
and taking people hostage or something like that.

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I don't know, Like they do
all these kind of arcs, which

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are just lines of quests that end
in an instance, that end in a

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like kind of cool little video sequence, which is really the only neat thing

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about or one of the one of
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as those are kind of well done. But it's, uh, it is

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monotonous. It is, you know, for a game that they kind of

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say themselves like there's no grinding in
this game. It's like no, you

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actually just made the entire game one
long, kind of meaningless grind. You're

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just not grinding for equipment because you
don't care about equipment. It's uh,

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yeah, it just seems really ill
conceived. I you know, I haven't

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hit the max level, but I
don't know that I'm going to what is

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it thirty? I'm twenty four right
now, and from the sounds of things,

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I don't know, like seeing what
the level thirty guys on my server

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are doing, it sounds like they
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like the PvP zones to reset,
or waiting for their subscriptions to run out.

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really seem like there's there. There

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is a bunch of stuff that unlocks
that level thirty. You can go on

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raids, which are basically just eight
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getting the four player instances to work, means that all these level thirty players

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are just sitting around waiting for something
to happen, like waiting for their turn

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to come up. And they chew
thirties the cap. Yeah, and where

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do you at twenty four? And
that's like, Yeah, a fucking weekend

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basically played fairly casual and the game
was down all day Sunday. It seems

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crazy you can hit the cap.
What is it a week ago today?

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Right? Yeah, yeah, that
it came out. Yeah, it seems

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crazy that that many people are already
at the cap, yeah, or that

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you're that close to the cap and
yeah, and I haven't been playing especially

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seriously, and I have not been
like I've been soloing everything for the most

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part, kind of talking to people
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you get thrown into these Uh So
there's instances there are part of quest lines

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and those you can do alone.
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you sign up for like PvP arenas, and there are also instances there would

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be like go to Guerrilla Island and
fight all these monkeys gorillas. No they're

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almoskey, No, they're totally gorilla, they are gollas. Be ironic to

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go to Grilling Island parrots really cool, that'd be way cool. But you

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are playing this game on the PlayStation. You are playing in MMO. Yeah,

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that stuff. Uh, the MMO
aspects of it work. There are

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login queues and confusing error screens like
you would expect from the MMO experience.

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That's what I always wanted no.
I mean, it's it's kind of cool

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that stuff works, but the game
really really feels like they've built it for

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the PC and then went like,
oh god, this has to be on

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consoles. Also, let's throw in
some other stuff, which I guess that

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doesn't necessarily a pot of the core
action because it is more action oriented than

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you know, even you know,
like like World of Warcraft or kind of

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the traditional mmore where you are hitting
buttons to do combos and stuff like that.

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But the downfall of that is that
you never feel connected to your movements.

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You know, it's it's it's an
MMO. The movement and the combat

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all feels really latent for an action
game. Basically, it's do you think

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there's still do a lot of dice
rolls going on? I think there there

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is, for certainly how much damage
is being done. But no, I

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mean, like, you know,
if you're blocking at the time of an

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attack coming in, it is blocked, okay, So it is You're not

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like you're not like arbitrarily missing attacks, just you don't miss, at least

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it doesn't seem like you miss,
but it's just you know, you you

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have to bash out these combos pretty
quick. And then you're sit there.

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You sit there and kind of watch
the animation for a while. Sure,

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and that's uh, yeah, you
just feel really disconnected. Like if you

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compare it to a real action game, a real offline action game or you

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know, like a four player online
action game or something like that, like

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it just it doesn't You don't feel
like you're hitting these dudes. You feel

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like you're hitting buttons and watching dudes
get hit. And that's unfortunate because it

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just that, you know, it
just means that they built a bad action

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game. And right now, there's
there's basically the two. There's Metropolis and

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Gotham City. Yep, that's that's
yeah, mostly the extent of it,

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Man runs Gotham and Superman and wonder
Woman kind of both hang out in Metropolis.

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Teacher, that says, Batman runs
Gotham. Yeah, and then I

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Wonder Woman works out of the Chinatown
police station. I don't know, I

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don't really I don't keep up with
Wonder Woman, so I don't know if

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that's she's completely like arbitrary. Yeah, like they had to have someone who's

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margin was magic to be a mentor, because like Batman runs the tech guys

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Superman runs the meta human guys,
and then they're like magic, who do

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we wonder? Isn't there a guy
who is actually a magician in the DC

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universe. There's Zatanna, who's a
female magician. Yeah, you do some

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work with her when you work with
Wonder Woman. She's not high level enough

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though, you need top dude.
Didn't they just kill the Wonder Woman movie

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again? A TV show? The
TV show? Yeah? I think David

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Kelly was working on a TV series
that they decided to not make. Was

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it a courtroom drama? No?
Probably at some point. Oh man,

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that'd be great. The old TV
shows he worked, he worked for what

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they're wonder Woman, Law, wonder
Woman, jag ncis wonder Woman, Yeah,

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Mark Harmon, Wonder Woman, San
Diego. Yes, but yeah performance.

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Why's the game has a lot of
issues. The frame right, it's

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really bad. Yeah. It also
runs in seven twenty, which, you

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know, kind of the traditional PC
console split there of the console version doesn't

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look nearly as good. But then
on top of that, to be saddled

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with you know a lot of really
bad frame rate issues is also kind of

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troubling. But the big problem is
that the menus are not built for a

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game pad, and the game doesn't
have mouse support for that stuff. As

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far as I can tell, I
bugged in the mouse, it didn't do

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anything, which is funny because that
when you first log into the PS three

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version, it actually shows the radical
that the PC version has and then quickly

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fades out like it's it's the same
game. But no, no, no,

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no, no no, like,
well you can't have that, yeah

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exactly, but you got like the
keyboard stuff to wor yeah, so the

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keyboard works, and you can use
those as shortcuts to get specific menus open.

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You can hit EYE for inventory and
JA for your quest log which journal,

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P for your powers and stuff like
that, and you can also use

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the one through six keys to trigger
your your hot bar stuff if you want

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to. But the shortcuts on the
game pad are usually pretty good, but

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you don't get any mouse support and
the menus, so you're just kind of

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left fumbling around the innards of these
menus with the game pad and kind of

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like, okay, so I hit
the R one and L one to shift

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between tabs in this specific thing,
and now I'm in the social menu,

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and how do I you know,
I need to pick up power? But

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it's not always easy to get the
cursor over the power that I'm trying to

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select on this this menu. You
know, like the menus just aren't built

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for a console. They're meant to
be moused over. And yeah, and

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you know there's stuff like tool tips
that you I assume you would get by

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hovering over your hot bar on the
PC that are painfully missing, because,

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like, at least with the Ice
power tree, a lot of the icons

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for powers as you're getting them look
kind of the same. Here's a silhouette

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of a dude and then waves coming
out, and then it's all kind of

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bluey, whitey ice fill. These
ice things are sideways, but in this

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one, yeah, exactly, so
you're kind of you can only have six

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powers equipped on this bar, so
you can't have to go into load outs

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and all this stuff, which is
also kind of annoying, and you get

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to a point where you're not one
hundred percent sure what any of them do.

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Also, because even if you did
get those tooltips, the descriptions of

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the powers are really bad. It's
like hurdles shards of ice at your enemies,

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no numbers about like how much damage
it does or anything like that.

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Yeah, no one says create It
creates a storm of ice that swirls around

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you. And then the other one
is like throw a snowball at a guy,

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maybe knocking him down, which is
like the one in like the one

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piece of useful indat this one might
have knocked down effects. Like they just

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don't have a raw like here's what
this does, yeah, and here's why

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you want to use it as opposed
to this thing. They don't. They

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don't list like the power cost on
these screens or anything like that. You're

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like, so, what percentage of
might of my bar is used? Like

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f off, that's how much.
But they do all have kind of a

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vague thing where it'll say, like
increases damage by x percent until the hit

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counter resets. So I guess when
you hit with these powers you can then

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do a combo afterwards and get do
additional damage. That stuff is really poorly

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implemented, like in terms of just
kind of telling the player what what that

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stuff does and how hard it hits
and all that, But it almost doesn't

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matter because you just kind of pick
the ones you like, and all of

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them are relatively effective because you are
kind of leveling up as you level up

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you're not putting points into your character
per se as you'd get like a skill

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point or a power point and go
like say like, well, okay,

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now I want to have I want
ice better. Yeah, I want better

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ice or or or or you know, I'm gonna go put further points into

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the combo system, which unlocks this
combo, which that stuff I thought was

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a lot better done than than any
of the stuff, even though that doesn't

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necessarily tell you how much damage you're
doing. Like your weapons come with a

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DPS rating and that's that's a number. But it's not like you're just holding

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down the attack button on a guy. You're actually wailing out combos, some

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of which are more effective than others. So it's like, well, what

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does that number really is that just
the base? Yeah, like what is

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the actual effect that this weapon is
having my damage? Yeah, So it's

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it's kind of it doesn't do a
good job of kind of telling you what

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all that stuff does, and that's
unfortunate, but ultimately it's kind of a

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minor point. The flow of the
game and the quest design and all that

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stuff is just so bland and so
uninteresting that even if you know the power

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system was amazing, and the combat
felt a little better, it would still

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be like, all right, I'm
tired of killing twenty five of everything.

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I'm tired of going to this other
zone waiting, you know, fifteen seconds

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or so for everything to spawn around
me, which meanwhile invisible enemies are hitting

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me while I'm waiting for the system
to catch up with where I am and

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and all that stuff. So they
didn't do a very good job. They

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did not do. It's not a
very good game. It is not a

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very good game. Was this internal
soe I believe? Yeah, yeah,

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it's incredibly shallow, and the technical
issues and stuff are are unfortunate. But

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ultimately, I think even if that
game was was working perfectly, you'd be

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like, like, there's just not
enough content. It's not a variety,

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but it's so short to any of
that stuff. For how long it was

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like all those raids and all that
stuff doesn't open up until you hit max

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level. So there's like duo instances
for you know, teams of two,

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and there's the eight player raids,
and then you know, there's all this

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there's other like PvP arenas that open
up as you level up, but I

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didn't find any of that not to
take an overly reductive perspective here, but

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what is the incentive as a player
to do that stuff? I imagine you

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know there's gear to get, but
you said you don't care about gear,

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right, not? Really? The
one thing that is nice about gear,

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and it's probably the smartest thing they
could have done with the relation with the

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way the character design works is any
piece of gear will have a style associated

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to it, so like some of
it will be like this is fourth World

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gear, and that doesn't necessarily confer
any additional bonuses. It's just like the

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look of the item. So it'll
be like, here's biker shirt. You

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know, we'll have a better name
for it and stats and stuff like that,

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and you will encounter additional biker shirts
along the way. But once you

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equip any item of that style,
you can go into your style tab and

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go to chest and turn on any
of the previous styles you've found for cosmetic

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purposes, your equipped gear is still
the stuff it's using for the numbers.

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But if you want to keep your
guy looking the way he looked when you

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created him, you can lock all
your styles there. You can adjust your

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stuff, so this kind of this
like collect them all nature of like,

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well, I want to complete you
know, anti freeze set and it's not

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the best stat wise. You know, it's not going to be the best

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set in the game or anything crazy
like that. But if you want your

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got to look like that, you
can totally do that. Brad that teams

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to specifically address your your vanity clothes
where yeah, yeah, it's been running

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around in clothes that are not the
best ones, Like man, these boots

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are pink, but they have better
stats. But the hell exactly. So

405
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:17.079
it solves that problem. You know, you can kind of change your color

406
00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:19.519
scheme on the fly also, so
they actually handle that stuff really well.

407
00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:22.880
It kind of creates the other problem
of you can look at someone and have

408
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:26.200
no idea if they're tough or not, and without the ability to kind of

409
00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:32.960
hover over and can someone you can
lock onto someone and I imagine there's probably

410
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.400
some keyboard command for inspecting or some
menu you could dig through to do it,

411
00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:40.799
but uh, all you really see
is their level. You can't see

412
00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:41.960
like, oh, they're wearing the
sickest gear in the game, I don't

413
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:48.079
want to fight them or something like
that. Well, that's a minor points,

414
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:49.839
that's not the at least there is
something to be good to be taken

415
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:53.079
from it though. Yeah, yeah, that that stuff is is really nicely

416
00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:59.680
done. One feature character creation and
character customization, I thought was was nice

417
00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:03.680
one feature for Blizzard to pluck from
that and add to their own. Yeah.

418
00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:07.880
I wonder if they more and more
unkillable. I wonder if they could

419
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:10.200
roll that back in though there's so
much gear in there at this point.

420
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:12.119
Yeah, yeah, I wonder if
they keep it. I wonder if they

421
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:15.359
have a list somewhere of every piece
of gear you've ever equipped. So if

422
00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:18.319
they were to go back and say, like, this is part of this

423
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:22.559
style, this is part of this
style. If they could retroactively unlock all

424
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.400
that, right, there's there's so
many more parts and so much more content,

425
00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:27.680
and wow, that'd be more of
a challenge, but they would probably

426
00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:32.359
just start fresh, just because all
the people that are crazy about that sort

427
00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:34.119
of thing would go by all that
low level gear anyway, and it wouldn't

428
00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:37.279
cost them that much. And this
also has color coordinating, right, like

429
00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:41.119
everything can be the same color.
Yeah, there's no set color to each

430
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:45.720
piece of right exactly. Yeah,
there's you don't go by die, right,

431
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:48.920
you have three separate colors you can
apply to each piece of gear and

432
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:55.640
and you do so, and that's
that's pretty easy. Well, the menu

433
00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:57.160
for that cord could be a lot
better, but you know, in the

434
00:28:57.160 --> 00:29:00.160
grand scheme of things, it's not. But it's crazy think about you know,

435
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:07.160
two factions. It sounds like like
what three or four hero types or

436
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:11.319
or or classes I guess you'd call
it for Well, you got like many

437
00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:17.319
human Yeah, there's there's basically three
races. Yeah, and uh and that's

438
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:22.319
determined by your mentor and then uh, I guess six classes, but those

439
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:26.279
are really boiled down to three different
roles. So what they did is there's

440
00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:30.359
no pure DPS class, Like every
class kind of does that. And then

441
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:34.200
at level ten you unlock the ability
to it's like a stance, so like

442
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:40.279
if you have a if you have
ice or fire, that's a defensive stance.

443
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:42.920
So your your alternate role becomes tank
at level ten. Okay, so

444
00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:45.960
you've got to swap into that and
it'll swap your hot bar out. But

445
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:49.960
there there don't seem to be a
lot of like a traditional tanking ability would

446
00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:53.680
be to like get agro off of
other guys, right, the shouts and

447
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:56.960
that sort of stuff, the warrior
kind of traditional stuff. There's none of

448
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.240
that in there, so, like, none of the ice powers ever say

449
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:06.039
anything about agro or anything about pulling
dudes away. It just says when you

450
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:08.720
are a tank, you will do
less damage and take less damage, which

451
00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:14.400
sounds kind of like a zero sum
game to me. Yeah, it seems

452
00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:15.880
like if I live longer, but
it takes longer to kill stuff, right,

453
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:21.200
So theoretically you would be you know, they would be on you while

454
00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:23.240
the other players are doing stuff.
To guys, I don't know. The

455
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:29.720
group dynamic seems a little messy in
that game, but it's nice to have

456
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:33.960
a healer around, so there's that. There's also Yeah, so there's a

457
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:37.880
controller role, which is kind of
the you do buffs and stuff like that,

458
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.119
and then there's the healer role.
This doesn't sound like a game I

459
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:47.279
want to play. Yeah, I
totally agree. So I wrote up something

460
00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:49.240
that actually you guys should read.
It reads a whole lot like a review

461
00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:52.960
of that game, and it just
kind of the only reason I'm hesitant to

462
00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:56.599
put it up as a review is
there's this whole like, you know,

463
00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.680
how much of Nimmo did you play
before you wrote the review? And I

464
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:03.440
feel like I have played more than
I wanted to see, and I've kind

465
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:06.839
of messed around the character creator and
kind of we could we could invoke will

466
00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:11.799
pause law here. Yeah, there's
definitely a yeah when did you want to

467
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:18.480
stop playing this game? Uh?
Yeah, about the level eleven or twelve

468
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:21.039
or something like that. But you
know, it was like a I figured,

469
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:22.240
well, I should just keep playing
it because you know, we don't

470
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:25.519
have we didn't have a little big
planet too at the time. Right,

471
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:27.799
Well, I don't have anything else
to be working on. Might as well

472
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:30.680
just slave away at this thing and
see how far I get right up something.

473
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:34.359
I mean, it sounds kind of
like a low impact in experience if

474
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:37.680
nothing else, it doesn't sound like
it's Yeah, it's definitely good that you

475
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:41.480
could pick up and play for you
know, the first thirty days or you

476
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:42.920
know, there's kind of like seven
just kind of is what it is,

477
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:48.359
bang against it and not really worried
too much about dying or anything like that.

478
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:51.799
Yeah, is there any way to
get it fun besides buying like a

479
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:52.880
sixty dollars box like or they do
it. They can get it on the

480
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:56.839
PC and get a fifty dollars box, But it is. It is by

481
00:31:56.880 --> 00:32:00.200
the game at retail prices and play
it for thirty days and there's no like

482
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:04.319
you know, download to via the
internet. No weirdness. Well there's there's

483
00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:07.559
Steam on the PC, and as
I understand it, the PC version does

484
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:09.799
have game pad support. So with
that in mind, if you could do

485
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:13.920
mouse, keyboard and game pads,
you get mouse for the menus, game

486
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:16.480
pad for playing it, and keyboard
for you know, the chat stuff and

487
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:21.319
social aspects and all that, like
that would be the best way to play

488
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:23.240
this game. Really. Yeah,
I don't know. It seems it seems

489
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:27.559
to me that having to move your
hands between multiple input devices is never the

490
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:30.680
best way. It's like there's got
to be a way to purify and considering

491
00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:35.920
considering what you give up by not
having a mouse on the p S three

492
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:38.720
and how clunky the menus are,
it will be worth having that mouse there.

493
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:43.200
It's the benefit of the controller.
Like the combat stuff is better,

494
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:45.160
is better on a game pad than
it is on the mouse. Just sounds

495
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:47.920
all over the place. Yeah,
because it's a it's a two button combos

496
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:52.440
system. It's like light heavy or
or or melee and ranged if you will.

497
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:58.519
And I'm I'm double baffled by the
lack of PS three PC crossover.

498
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:01.599
It's got voice chat on PS three. I don't know if it does on

499
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:05.200
PC or not, but it only
works when you're in groups and stuff like

500
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:08.359
crossover between the two platforms, right, Yeah, they are totally separate,

501
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:12.119
and you would not want to if
you were. If you were a PC

502
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:16.720
MMO playing kind of guy, sure, you would fucking lose your mind playing

503
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:20.119
on the p S three servers because
of the way people play. It is

504
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:23.200
the level of competence, it is
the just everything is a shout. Every

505
00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:27.400
single piece of chat is a shout
for that whole zone because it's it's it's

506
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:31.440
the only way anyone can talk to
each other, and it's just this endless

507
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:36.359
scroll of just like please. That
actually seems like if you played a video

508
00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:38.160
game, like like not even an
MMO before, But what are you talking

509
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:40.680
about? That seems like it could
be kind of an interesting social experiment,

510
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:45.400
Like take someone that has played a
lot of PC MMOs and then plunk them

511
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:47.319
down in front of the PIECES three
version of this game, and just see

512
00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:52.559
how long it takes for them to
completely lose their ship. Yeah, yeah,

513
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:55.480
that's I mean you don't really need
to communicate with people to really play

514
00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:59.440
that game. So and it's it's
all. It seems like they really built

515
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:00.960
it to be sole, to the
point where I don't even know why you

516
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:06.640
would group up for anything but the
forced grouped instances. Do you know if

517
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:09.639
this is included in the station Pass
I don't believe it is. There's no

518
00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:14.519
station stuff on the p S three
version at all. So I know the

519
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:17.440
station launcher is on the PC version
of the game, but I have to

520
00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:20.920
imagine. No, I don't think
they put up they put new games in

521
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:22.800
there right out of the gate.
I thought that was something they added like

522
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:25.559
after a year or something like that. I don't know anything. I don't.

523
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:29.559
I totally don't. The Matrix Online
was the last time I launched the

524
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:34.920
station pass thing. We all saw
how that went. Yeah, I don't.

525
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:39.159
I'd no longer have the station pass
thing installed. Yeah. Yeah,

526
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:43.480
So I I don't think I would
recommend the game either way. But if

527
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:47.800
if you were dead set on playing
this thing, you should you should get

528
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:52.119
the PC version. I think even
even if you weren't playing with a game

529
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:55.519
pad, I think the the hassle
of the men used and stuff like that

530
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:59.199
on the PS three and and the
lower resolution and that sort of stuff,

531
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:05.760
and the frame rate stuff is bad
enough that it would be worth uh playing

532
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:07.199
it on the PC? If did
you play any games that you didn't hate?

533
00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:15.719
Nope, Oh you know, I
played it. I played Superstar Dust

534
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:17.599
HD. So I took my other
PS three, my launch PS three,

535
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:22.400
and finally updated the firmware on it
and hooked it up to my three D

536
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:28.400
TV and played some Superstar Dust HD
in three D, which is the same

537
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:30.840
game, right it is by a
separate three D version or anything like that.

538
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:34.719
It updates, so, wasn't it. Every time I tried to update

539
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:37.239
it, it was just resetting the
console, so I had to actually delete

540
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:40.360
the game and redownload. The whole
thing would come up and say you need

541
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:43.960
an update. Then I'll hit the
button and then it would reboot, reboot

542
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:46.679
the system. I'm like, okay, that's all right, you still need

543
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:51.760
an update. Yeah. Basically three
is this this awesome endless loop. Everything

544
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:54.960
about the back end of that thing. It's a mystery. My trophies have

545
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:58.480
not been sinking properly. It just
keeps giving me an error over and over

546
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:00.760
for the last couple of days.
And weird. I thought they fixed that

547
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:02.360
like that that was going on for
everybody for a while. Really, this

548
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:06.800
was last night. I just kept
airring out at like thirty percent, trying

549
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:07.880
to sink the trophies, and then
like one time, it went through.

550
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:10.519
But then I went into the thing
and the new trophies were not there,

551
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:14.719
weird, and I backed out and
then it started airring out again. Guys,

552
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:17.840
I don't know causality loop. Oh
shit, you think there is a

553
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:23.000
movieous effects going on? Figure out
if you start seeing instances at the number

554
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:29.960
three. The number three, Yeah, I could send ourselves a message back

555
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:35.000
in time into Brad's positronic brain.
So how does the three D experience?

556
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:38.079
Altar superstartus HD makes it way harder? It looks really nice. Yeah,

557
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:43.400
I was impressed with the way it
looked, but I did as someone who

558
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:46.280
was pretty good at the game and
two D I play like fucking garbage.

559
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:51.599
Three D. It just it led
to me to focus on a tighter area

560
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:53.800
of the screen around the ship and
stuff like that. And in a game

561
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:59.239
where you kind of need to see
everything at all times, you need that

562
00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:01.159
peripheral vision, and the three D
seems to take a lot of that away.

563
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:05.960
I don't know if it's something that
you would eventually adjust to and it

564
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:08.039
wouldn't be a problem. But I
feel like that's kind of true of like

565
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:14.360
all all the three D media I
have consumed, is that you can't you

566
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:19.960
can't take in a like all of
the full screen three D noss at once.

567
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:22.760
Yeah, like you do kind of
have to focus on a section of

568
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:24.239
the screen. You have to do
with the size of the screen, like

569
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:28.800
I had your proximity to It's probably
I've also found that the three D looked

570
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:30.360
a lot better when I got further
away from the TV. Yeah, there's

571
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:34.119
probably a I don't know, it's
pretty pretty specific sweet spot for that kind

572
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:42.199
of stuff. Yeah, but yeah, that I did it significantly worse at

573
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:45.800
that game playing at in three D. Would DC Universe Online be better in

574
00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:52.159
three D? It wouldn't matter,
Yeah, I don't. I don't think

575
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:53.159
it would. I don't think it
would, you know, make the game

576
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:59.559
tougher or anything like that. Sure, that game could use a lower frame

577
00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:04.679
rate, there were already there was
already one spot and you know there's one

578
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:07.199
spot where the frame rate had gotten
down to about three or four frames per

579
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:09.719
second. It's got to that point
where you can start counting it. You're

580
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:13.440
like, what is going on?
You know, because I'm like flying over

581
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:16.280
the city and it's just like big
gray blocks. There's a statue of Superman

582
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:21.880
sitting in one of the parks or
something like that, and uh, I

583
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:24.000
was getting way closer to it than
they probably ever intended. So it was

584
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:28.639
like the low detail version of it, which is just like this big block

585
00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:34.440
with like a texture of that side
of the statue on it, like big

586
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:37.639
black blocks. It just like looks
like the dumbest thing ever. Finally snaps

587
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:40.440
in and like, okay, all
right, fine, but yeah, there's

588
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:44.880
a there's a lot of low frame
rates. But you know, it's a

589
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:47.880
game where you start flying over the
whole city and then come crashing down to

590
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:52.760
Earth and land, and you know
for it to it just can't keep up.

591
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:55.000
It just can't keep up with the
way you move in that game.

592
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:05.039
Anyway. Brad Shoemaker trans frown upside
down. It's not Brad doing all right?

593
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:09.159
How's your weekend? Pretty good?
Watch the Star Trek? Norm chance

594
00:39:09.239 --> 00:39:13.639
sweet pad? They doesn't have pretty
sweet pad. He've wired every room for

595
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:15.519
either that I know, that's what
you knew man, you're gonna do something

596
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:20.119
like jealous. I mean, what
if if you have the drywall off,

597
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:24.719
it's kind of a consequential to run
some drops. Yeah, oh man,

598
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:30.000
I want to live in a place
with wired either not video games. Did

599
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:35.159
you uh? Did you do like
I did? And after our Friday episode

600
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:38.320
deliberations, did you go and watch
a bunch of the episodes that you wanted

601
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:42.320
to watch that got cut? No? I don't have that series and an

602
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:49.280
easily watchable format. They do have
that DVD set that's very expressive. Yeah,

603
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:52.119
but it's not it's not the like
seven hundred and fifty dollars that it

604
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:53.239
used to be. If you bught
the box set, is that the one

605
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:58.400
that that would have brought? Yeah, that green case green were looking.

606
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:00.559
I don't know what's metal frame.
I thought it was like Xbox games.

607
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:04.360
It's kind of a kind of hideous. It is pretty gross, but it's

608
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:07.599
the whole series, but contained within
is Star Treks. Yeah that's good,

609
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:09.679
all of it. Could've the episodes
you don't want, But now I would

610
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:14.960
be afraid to buy that because Blue
Ray probably at some point didn't even shoot

611
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:16.639
that behind a resolution for it to
matter what it doesn't matter, anything shot

612
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:22.320
on film can be transferred to the
two HD like like ten ADP was derived

613
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:27.360
specifically to emulate the level of detail
in thirty five millimeter film. I watched

614
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:30.440
bullet On on Blu Ray over the
weekend, and that it is from nineteen

615
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:34.199
sixty eight, and that transfer looks
really really good. Any any thirty five

616
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:37.840
millimeter film it up can be scanned, Yeah, perfectly, so I don't.

617
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:39.440
I don't think the shot next generation
in the sixteen by nine, though,

618
00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:45.920
which is unfortunate. I don't believe
that's true. Anyway, games were

619
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:50.039
we talking about? Yeah, I
didn't favorite Star Trek. I didn't play

620
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:52.079
a ton of stuff. I played
a little bit of star Craft by day

621
00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:57.519
and a whole bunch of Dead Space
two by night. A still can't say

622
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:01.079
an there's still pretty heavily embargo it
on dead Space. I don't. I

623
00:41:01.079 --> 00:41:04.639
don't. I don't think EA will
mind too much if I say that game

624
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:07.679
is really, really good. Alright, I doubt it. Real quick question,

625
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:09.719
what does your mom think of it? I didn't show it too yet.

626
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:13.840
Okayably, apparently a bunch of EA
moms are not thrilled with it.

627
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:16.840
I asked, it's an ad campaign. Yeah, I know, we know,

628
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:20.679
But were those moms all from the
Velment team? Because I thought I

629
00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:22.280
saw Dino saying, well, I
know, I know Dino did that.

630
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:25.719
She was just mom, but I
don't know if if that was tied into

631
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:29.639
it or not. I think he
just saw the campaign, thought oh,

632
00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:34.199
heal himself. He had his did
his niece do it? I assumed had

633
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:37.440
his niece show his mom some footage
from Dead Space too. Okay, I

634
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:39.000
just saw what he said on Twitter. I didn't actually look, so his

635
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:42.639
mom is not in the action.
I don't don't. I don't know either

636
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.920
way. Okay, Anyway, interesting
ad campaign for that one. Some messed

637
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:49.599
up stuff in that game. There's
some really messed up stuff. Is it

638
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:53.880
like that game good creatively messed up? Because that was my problem with with

639
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:57.960
I wish I could Don's Inferno was
I felt like you can say yes or

640
00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:01.480
no. The specifics of the embargo
are chapters two and three, So all

641
00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:07.639
I can say specifically about anything has
to come from those chapters, and most

642
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:13.840
of the easiest stuff is not in
those Is it better than fucking demon babies?

643
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:17.400
I think you can qualify that with
a yes or no. I don't

644
00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:20.880
know how to intail. I don't
know if I can talk around the embargo

645
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:23.440
enough to answer the tu Yeah,
we'll talk. We'll talk at length.

646
00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:28.800
Well, you're playing it, you're
like you'll recall the the infant like enemies

647
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:32.880
in the first game. No,
you don't play like somebody played. I

648
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:37.519
played. I played. There were
baby necromorphs in the first game. There

649
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:43.199
are different kinds of baby necromorphs in
this. It's pretty messed up. Probably

650
00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:45.119
the I think maybe the biggest strength
of that game is the first game was

651
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:49.840
all on that ship. Yeah,
and it was just all one industrial environment

652
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:52.320
after another because it was just an
industrial mining ship. Like this is a

653
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:55.280
city, right, It's a space
station, but it's a city, right,

654
00:42:57.000 --> 00:43:00.119
Like they have civilian there are significant
like civilian residential areas and all the

655
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:04.480
things that you would expect to go
along with like families living on a space

656
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.519
station right, right. So it's
Aliens now meets the event horizon aesthetic of

657
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:10.679
the first game because you're in that
you're in that space space station, like

658
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:15.239
that's inhabited by families and stuff.
There's some definite event horizon kind of stuff.

659
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:16.800
Yeah, going on with Like well, there wasn't the first game for

660
00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:21.440
sure, weird space supernatural stuff.
Yeah, yeah, it's an all an

661
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:23.119
extension of that. But anyway,
I mean in that setting, they they

662
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:28.360
they take you for much greater range
of places to fight these awful things.

663
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:34.519
That's cool. So how is Sam
Neil? And it's pretty good bes so

664
00:43:35.159 --> 00:43:38.320
beautiful. It would be great if
he was in there. I want to

665
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:43.840
just go home and keep playing that
fair enough. I watch Event Horizon here

666
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:47.239
play Dead Space. I think I'm
gonna go back and play this Space one

667
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:51.320
after this. It creeped me out
too much. I honestly couldn't play through

668
00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:54.039
it. H Yeah, so yeah, that's h people are weird. Would

669
00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:59.440
I wouldn't have finished. I would
have finished that Space two buno if I

670
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:02.639
weren't only playing it at night.
Yeah, but like you got sun glaring

671
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:05.599
through the window and stuff, like, you can't play that game. It's

672
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:07.719
like everything is so dark on the
TV. You'll get some blackout curtains.

673
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:12.840
Yeah, well you have some,
don't you like my bed room where the

674
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:15.599
TV is group. I don't know. I think Dead Space two is is

675
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:19.599
a game meant to be played in
the bedroom. You that's gross? Yeah,

676
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:23.800
what are you saying? You know
what I'm saying. Yes, it

677
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:27.119
is, it is very I don't
I know where you're coming from. I

678
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:30.039
had to stop last night for a
little bit and like walk I have that

679
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:32.119
horror games and I just can't do
it with what horror games. I just

680
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:36.119
games that intense. I just can't
deal with that horror movies. I'm fine.

681
00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:38.719
I don't mind sitting through the most
gorious, nastiest jump scary heavy ship.

682
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:42.960
It is super It is super like
startle heavy jump scares. Yeah,

683
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:45.079
but with games like the fact that
I'm engaging that stuff and I'm actually like

684
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:47.760
the one walking through it and like
making things happen. I don't want to

685
00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:50.679
do it. I don't want to
I'm gonna watch her walk down this hall

686
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:52.960
and something's gonna jump out, Like
yeah, fuck, I have to walk

687
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:54.599
down this hall myself. I don't
want to do I don't want to do

688
00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:59.119
it. Yeah, I can't say, because they're in chapters two and three,

689
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:02.840
plenty of Yeah, a lot of
monster closets. Yeah, like straight

690
00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:07.280
up Doom three style, Like you
go and look at where the monster came

691
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:09.320
from, and it's like a tiny
little box just big enough to hold the

692
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:13.559
monster. I understand. I understand
you like Debt Space two so far,

693
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:16.840
but when you can describe any part
of it as Doom three, like that

694
00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:22.920
doesn't if you don't scrutinize The only
reason I scrutinized that stuff because I'm reviewing,

695
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:24.800
right, Like if you're just playing
through it and taking all of the

696
00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:29.639
scripted stuff for what it is,
like it's it's very effective. Cool.

697
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:35.800
Some monster design better or worse than
Doom three, very similar, like a

698
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:39.199
lot of yeah, you know what, I I thought the monsters in the

699
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:44.000
first Debt Space were kind of cheesy, like those anything those designs or a

700
00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:45.280
lot of the designs. Some of
them are are good, some of them

701
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:50.320
are kind of adolescent, right,
you know, yeah something it is like

702
00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:52.119
metal head sketch book. Yeah,
totally, like a lot of like human

703
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:57.079
faces just slapped onto these awful things. John Romero's face. Man, I've

704
00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.800
been hitting in there somewhere, I
know, but it is John loves dead

705
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:05.719
Space, right. I didn't play
it, Tony. Your mom might not

706
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:07.840
like it, but John Romero is
going to make a dead Space to his

707
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:13.679
bitch you. But my mom loves
John Romero. Think about it. Totally

708
00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:15.360
playing that game in the bedroom because
you're your mom a young Romanian woman.

709
00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:23.719
No, sat sadly for both my
mom and John Romero. My mom is

710
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:29.320
not looking for a passport. Okay, so I didn't get to play a

711
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:32.920
ton of games over the weekend.
I uh, well, did you not

712
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:36.719
get to or just choose not to? I was just doing other stuff.

713
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:38.280
Yeah, it was good. That
was kind of my my things. Doing

714
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:43.079
other stuff fucking went like food shopping, which I hadn't done in like two

715
00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:46.760
months. So my house was just
awful barren. You're down to eating bacos

716
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:51.559
at this point. Yeah, it
was just like he's down to start with.

717
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:54.639
Like, here's some year old cans
of soup that I think I could

718
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:59.280
probably still eat. I don't know
soup is for fallout shelters. Of course,

719
00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:02.119
it's still good. I've got this
jar of peanuts I have in this

720
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:07.920
baking soda man. That that big
tinted peanuts that Shelby sense I cracked that

721
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:14.000
when I ran out of food in
my house. Past peanuts are probably the

722
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:15.360
best peanuts of it. So thank
you. Card to the State of Virginia,

723
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:20.960
much much love to the Bonnie Clan
Christmas gift. Just it's funny because

724
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:22.880
it's just like it's not a fancy
package, Like this's a big old fucking

725
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:25.760
can of peanuts. You're like,
yeah, all right, sure, I

726
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:29.480
like peanuts, and you start getting
internet. These are how do you argue

727
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:31.679
with that? Fantastic? These are
fantastic peanuts. My girlfriend made a bunch

728
00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:35.960
of kung pound chicken with those peanuts. Oh my god, yes, so

729
00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:38.639
good. I might I might see
about making some peanut brittle with those peanuts.

730
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:42.800
Probably be pretty good too. I'm
just gonna eat those peanuts. That's

731
00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:45.119
just what I'm I don't I don't
know. I have no interest in food

732
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:46.719
craft. I just want to eat
these peanuts. But those peanuts saved my

733
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:50.559
ass over the Christmas break. Yeah, that was how little food I have,

734
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:52.920
Like, oh, thank god there's
peanuts. Uh So that was good

735
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:59.880
oil change, haircut, just all
sorts of taking care of the functional weekend,

736
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:02.960
a high functioning weekend. I went
and visited my mom, all sorts

737
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:05.679
of shit like that, and then
you know, Star Trek. So,

738
00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:08.360
so your weekend was the polar opposite
of my weekend where I literally I didn't

739
00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:13.639
even put on pants until Monday when
I had to go to Anton. I

740
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:16.719
say night and I went out food
shopping, then up Saturday morning and nice

741
00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:21.280
and early. Yeah, I did
all sorts of stuff, unbelievable. I

742
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:24.519
did find just a little bit of
time to play some some Fallout New Vegas

743
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:30.440
Dead Money, which is the I
really don't care for it, but really

744
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:36.000
really they really and it sucks because
I kind of like, so I played

745
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:39.000
through New Vegas and then I you
know, rolled back to an earlier save

746
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:44.719
to kind of do my my splinter
endings thing. But then after I did

747
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:45.119
all that stuff, I'm like,
Okay, I want to go back and

748
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:49.239
I kind of have like what I
what I consider my my core play through,

749
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:52.880
so I want to use that to
then go and do the DLC and

750
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:57.199
whatever other stuff they put out.
So now I'm fucking trapped in the Dead

751
00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:00.000
Money DLC because it's it's a lot
like a lot of the the Fought three,

752
00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:04.360
Yeah, where it takes you to
it. Well, it's it's even

753
00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:07.639
more like fucking Operation Anchorage, where
it's like you're going to a different place,

754
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:10.920
stripping you of all of your equipment, stripping you of all of your

755
00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:17.159
like teammates and all the other ship
that they do with story. Wow,

756
00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:22.199
I'm gonna tell you to play it. There's no way I'll ever play that

757
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:25.039
time. And you're fine because it's
it's a real it's a real bummer.

758
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:28.760
But anyway, so now now I
my save is there, it's like I

759
00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:30.840
have to play through that before I
can get back to any of the New

760
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:36.519
Vegas stuff. And it's combat heavy
with a focus on like stealth and traps.

761
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:40.880
So it's it's like your favorite parts
of the Fallout experience, Like combat

762
00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:45.440
is already not what I like about
Fallout and to make this that focus,

763
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:49.800
and then you have these enemies that
are ghost people that are very difficult to

764
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:52.360
kill, but you have super limited
AMMO and it's mostly melee stuff, and

765
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:58.920
so it's like melee and stealth and
traps are three specific way wait, wait

766
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:01.760
are they ghost traps that I never
put No, they're like bear traps,

767
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:07.000
like people traps. Those are like
three things that I very specifically never put

768
00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:10.719
a single point into playing New Vegas. So like it's just it's this fucking

769
00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:15.440
slog to grind through all this stuff. Now I feel like they learned zero

770
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:22.239
lessons from how the DLC should go
from from Fallout. It is there's some

771
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:24.800
decent character stuff in there too,
and there's like promise in the setting,

772
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:30.559
but they didn't do a good job. I mean on the third DLC for

773
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:32.679
this could very well, you know, extend the ending again, open it

774
00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:36.559
back up, but it's not even
it's not even that, it's not even

775
00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:39.920
the like like, I still think
that it would be better if if they

776
00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:45.599
let you. And New Vegas is
different enough whatever to that part, but

777
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:49.480
it's it's more of learning the lesson
of make this story and character focused,

778
00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:53.280
not like super combat focused. Part
of what makes New Vegas like for me,

779
00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:58.199
more fun to play is having it's
easier to get a full team of

780
00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:00.639
dudes running around with you, and
they're a lot more effective. So I

781
00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:06.440
barely fought playing New Vegas like I
didn't. I did not participate in a

782
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:08.440
lot of combat because my guys would
take care of it for me because they

783
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:12.599
were so fucking effective. I wonder
if it's easier for a production angle to

784
00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:15.119
do a combat focus thing, probably
as opposed to you know, you don't.

785
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:16.840
You don't need a whole bunch of
new writing, you don't have to

786
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:21.199
get a whole bunch of new voice
actors together. I mean, there's a

787
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:23.280
lot of stuff is still in there
for for dead money. It's just that

788
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:29.039
they also pair it. They make
you slog through a bunch of unappealing combat

789
00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:32.320
scenarios. So there's that. I
played a little bit of d You Hear

790
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:36.039
It Too? Just struck me.
I was like, Hey, did you

791
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:37.880
hear it too? I liked that
game a lot. I played some more

792
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:40.199
of that. Yeah, you get
you guys, Having having played so much

793
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:44.719
Fallout, do you feel like you
can go back to Elder Scrolls when when

794
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:49.159
Skyrim comes out, Like, yeah, certainly, yeah, though that there's

795
00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:52.599
no speed trees, maybe kind of
a bummer, like you can do without

796
00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:58.280
the guns though and all that stuff
like spells are like guns for your mind.

797
00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:00.000
I guess, I guess I mind
ends. Yeah, I use a

798
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:06.280
lot of vats. Yeah, so
not having that will make it a different

799
00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:08.880
experience. They should just put fast. I mean, I'm wondering. I'm

800
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:13.519
almost wondering if they'll end up doing
that. I don't you know what.

801
00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:16.360
I don't even need there to be
like a in fiction justification for that.

802
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:22.559
It's just like this is how you
do turn magic time. Yeah, yeah,

803
00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:30.360
vats. I mean they are rolling
perks and stuff like that, like

804
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:34.800
setting change. I don't think I'll
have much much. I thought you were

805
00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:39.320
gonna say go back to Elder scrolls
for let's just say, no fucking way.

806
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:45.000
You mean Oblivion? Yeah, oh
no, no, I just meant

807
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:49.440
fantasy in general, Like you go
back to a fantasy style game with with

808
00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:52.079
these kinds of mechanics. Sure it's
good. I mean Oblivion was awesome,

809
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:57.440
so you know again, like it's
the it's the storytelling in the characters.

810
00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:00.519
This one's got Vikings. That's that's
more interesting. It's got maxifon side out.

811
00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:05.320
Great. I liked I liked it
when it had Patrick Stewart in it.

812
00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:08.199
Yeah, that was pretty good.
I like everything with Patrick Stewart in

813
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:14.559
it. I even like I like
those National Rental cars. I liked him.

814
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:19.000
In Castlevania, Captain Cart tells you
to kill him. Man, I'll

815
00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:22.320
do it, time and place,
I'll be there. What if it's Jonathan

816
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:27.159
Frakes, I would actually, you
know what that assumes that you could kill

817
00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:30.280
Frakes. That big assumption to make. All that dude has to do is

818
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:35.400
shoulder charge you and you are dead. He's a good tank. Yeah,

819
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:39.920
sucks it up. In my Star
Trek RPG, Jonathan Frakes is the tank

820
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:50.159
my Star Trek rpg A right,
they already made that has has any of

821
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:53.039
your DC universe online time? Jeff
inspired you to check back out on Star

822
00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:59.000
Trek Not really, it's if anything, it's inspired me to download Champions onlines

823
00:53:59.039 --> 00:54:02.760
and stuff that went free to play
right around the same time. Did you

824
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:07.159
start that? No? No,
noll no downloaded it? No, I

825
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:08.800
didn't even I didn't even do that. I thought, oh, maybe I

826
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:14.760
should play Champions. I went,
wait, maybe I shouldn't anyone. Yeah.

827
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:16.480
Then I kind of made like loose
air noises from my mouth for a

828
00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:20.519
while and then thought, man,
can't wait till a little big planet two

829
00:54:20.559 --> 00:54:28.239
gets here? And now it's here, so saving my life? All right?

830
00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:31.599
You guys want to talk about other
stuff? Okay? Yeah, tell

831
00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:36.840
like other things? Yeah, what
is this? You need need to consess

832
00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:38.280
us? Here is what is this? Democracy? I just want to I

833
00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:40.800
just want to make sure everyone's in
before we move on. I play a

834
00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:44.280
little Big Planet too for like twenty
minutes, and it's awesome. Is that

835
00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:46.320
is that awesome? It's still good? It's awesome. Did you do any

836
00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:52.679
weird user generated stuff played justin Calvert's
linar Landard level? How is it a

837
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:57.880
little tough. Land is pretty tough. Yeah, you adapt it to the

838
00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:01.320
little big planet physics, it's probably
I actually think that linear lander physics are

839
00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:06.039
probably pretty comparable to the little big
planet I thought, And then no,

840
00:55:06.519 --> 00:55:10.199
okay, not they're they're differently floaty. Yeah, okay, because you can't.

841
00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:14.880
You gotta be so slow when you
touch down. Touching down is not

842
00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:21.559
the difficult part of this. Staying
up is getting up. I spent a

843
00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:27.000
good chunk of the weekend looking at
trying to decide if I wanted to play

844
00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:29.559
Getting Up. We talked about that
in the car last week. What was

845
00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:34.400
it that inspired thought? We start
talking about the collective? What would you

846
00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:37.239
play Getting Up on? At this
point I was looking for to see if

847
00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:39.320
I had the PC version or if
it was available for sale from any touch

848
00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:43.039
sort of digital retailer. But it
seems like it is not the case.

849
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:46.679
So is that one of those Xbox
downloads. I don't think it's a download.

850
00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:52.519
No, I mean I have the
disc for Xbox, but I don't

851
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:54.559
think it runs on the three sixty. Yeah, so I would have to

852
00:55:54.639 --> 00:56:00.360
hook up an actual Xbox an.
I've got like three actual Xbox I just

853
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:05.199
I don't know that any of them
work. I've got an actual working Xbox

854
00:56:05.679 --> 00:56:08.320
mm. Let's putting that out there, all right, let's uh we move

855
00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:15.199
on to a little a spot of
news gentlemen. Here there is Yeah,

856
00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:16.559
I heard a few things about some
stuff. Hey, what have you been?

857
00:56:19.480 --> 00:56:23.039
What is he saying? Saying?
Final Fantasy thirteen two? That's true?

858
00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:28.119
That is That is my top story
I have here breaking news. Final

859
00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:31.320
Fantasy thirteen two is coming next winter
from Square Innis It was like last week

860
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:38.119
or something some trademark site, trademark
like URL registrations got out next winter,

861
00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:43.599
as in probably like into this year
endo next year. It's this year in

862
00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:47.039
Japan. Okay, I think I
saw next January February of for the next

863
00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:51.960
year. For that. Here are
they are? They all in a j

864
00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:54.880
pop group this time. When the
game starts, this lady's got sword and

865
00:56:54.920 --> 00:57:00.280
there's feathers and oh good battle system
and it's evolved from Phoenix down. I

866
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:04.719
bet it is. Probably it's I
don't know how I feel about that,

867
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:08.960
because paradoxically, the combat was my
favorite thing about thirteen, which is strange

868
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:14.039
because I have been bored of JRPG
combat for about a decade, but it

869
00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:16.239
was the combat was great in thirteen. It was really well designed and pretty

870
00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:20.239
unique. So you don't want them
to change it. I don't know that.

871
00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:22.000
I wouldn't say that, but I
hope they don't monkey with it too

872
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:25.880
much. But you're saying that there
are other things that could use addressing more

873
00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:32.199
so than the combat system. Now, I know precious little about Final Fantasy

874
00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:37.039
thirteen. What is to say?
I know, I know, I know

875
00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:42.599
precious little about Final Fantasy. What
I know is that a lot of people

876
00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:45.360
did not really like it that much, with some people being very vocal about

877
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:49.400
how much they did like it.
But I've seen a lot of people like

878
00:57:49.719 --> 00:57:52.519
rolling their eyes in unison at this
announcement that was strong points. I mean,

879
00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:55.039
I feel like we've kind of kicked
that horse to death. Yeah point,

880
00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:58.880
Okay, everybody knows sort of.
Well, I'm just I'm asking for

881
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:00.559
my own reference. I mean it
it was too long, it was too

882
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:04.119
long winded. It just too long
to get going and let you actually have

883
00:58:04.159 --> 00:58:07.400
fun playing the game. Okay,
and now they're making another one. This

884
00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:10.360
seemed like the case of they spend
a lot of money generating assets and yes

885
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:16.920
they're going to fucking it. Well, didn't it? But not like great?

886
00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:20.440
I don't know what the final tally
was. Yeah, I'm sure it

887
00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:24.039
did fun. I just I know
the budget for that game was like supremely

888
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:29.400
overblown compared to what a lot like
most other arts ever are, it was

889
00:58:29.480 --> 00:58:32.599
a long development cycle. Yeah,
yes, absolutely seems like they are trying

890
00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:37.920
to capitalize on the work that has
already been done sensible, but at the

891
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:38.880
same time, you know, there's
a lot of room for improvement, and

892
00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:43.679
I think, like like Alex said, people were pretty vocal about what they

893
00:58:43.719 --> 00:58:45.320
didn't like about it, and I
think they actually saw somewhere in a story

894
00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:51.400
they are saying, we are looking
at feedback and improving it. So if

895
00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:55.480
it's like if it's like thirty hours
and there's more expiration and stuff like cool,

896
00:58:55.639 --> 00:58:59.880
well I'm on board. What does
what does this do to what was

897
00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:02.880
it? Versus? So there's a
whole new trailer or a bunch of new

898
00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:07.480
footage of verses thirteen out there also, which has actual game playing it.

899
00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:09.239
Yeah, as far as I know, maybe I'm wrong, it's the first

900
00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:15.719
time I have seen first time,
Yeah, it looks kind of amazing from

901
00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:22.039
a just a sheer like quality of
CGI perspective, and just the way that

902
00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:28.000
the endgame stuff looked. I thought
it looked like really unique for that type

903
00:59:28.039 --> 00:59:30.280
of game. But also, yeah, I thought it looked like it could

904
00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:35.360
be actually be fun as you know, like this kind of character action game

905
00:59:35.519 --> 00:59:37.960
with some smart trappings around it.
Or looked at it and I was just

906
00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:40.000
like, oh, you're making definitely
cry. But then if you look at

907
00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:45.159
the bottom, there's like a party
kind of read out like character portraits.

908
00:59:45.360 --> 00:59:52.000
I love fighting in Magic Fleet.
He's the greatest bass player of all.

909
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:55.280
Yeah, he's He was great in
the Chase Getting whatever game. Also also

910
00:59:55.360 --> 01:00:00.280
the greatest boss in Coronic Sugar.
Yeah, he's pretty good. I watched

911
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:04.400
the Chase. I was talking to
someone because you watched the Chase. I

912
01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:08.000
was talking to someone about Christy Swanson
and h ray Wise rarely been horror in

913
01:00:08.079 --> 01:00:10.880
that movie. Yeah, yeah,
you're right. And also this is an

914
01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:15.000
incredible movie. It's really good,
really, it really is. Henry Rawlins

915
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:17.199
was absolutely born to play a cop. Yep, oh yeah, like a

916
01:00:17.320 --> 01:00:22.920
really agro cop. Yeah, it's
perfect, just total asshole jar head cop

917
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:25.719
like power tripping. I had forgotten
what a sort of I mean, very

918
01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:30.920
blunt but at the same time amusing
commentary that movie was on TV news.

919
01:00:30.199 --> 01:00:35.320
Yeah, uh, there's it is. I think I had sort of willfully

920
01:00:35.320 --> 01:00:37.119
ignored that as a kid, because
I just I had seen Car Chase,

921
01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:42.760
funny Anthony Keytis. But yeah,
no, shockingly, shockingly well done.

922
01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:46.199
That movie House incredible. Oh yeah, I don't even mean that movie.

923
01:00:46.199 --> 01:00:50.079
I just mean ray Wise is incredible. He is incredible in the Chase.

924
01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:54.079
He is also incredible. I would
love to see him and was it Christopher

925
01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:58.800
McDonald Shary McGavin. I would love
to see them play brothers in a movie,

926
01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:04.760
Evil brothers. They're also a thirteen, a geto, a geeto.

927
01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:09.000
Yeah, they just renamed that too
something. Okay, I can't remember,

928
01:01:09.039 --> 01:01:14.199
but that's still happening. That's still
a separate thing. It is they made.

929
01:01:14.320 --> 01:01:16.920
They made all the initial thirteen announcements
like a decade again, was that

930
01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:19.960
even one of them? Though?
Yeah, it was like the whole like

931
01:01:20.079 --> 01:01:23.639
Fabula Nova, crystalis is like this. I remember the Versus is like like

932
01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:28.480
like kind of binding universe thing,
like we're putting out thirteen in a million

933
01:01:28.559 --> 01:01:31.320
different ways. But now I'm really
confused because I thought Versus thirteen was supposed

934
01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:35.679
to take place in the same world, but that footage is in like this

935
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:38.639
kind of realistic modern setting, like
in this urban area, like looks like

936
01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:42.519
Tokyo or something. This is just
awesome. That could just as easily be

937
01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:47.119
some other part of and A.
And also this is a small subset of

938
01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:51.480
that game. Who knows where else
it goes. But I thought they were

939
01:01:51.519 --> 01:01:54.159
like people in tuxedos and stuff.
Yeah, yeah, they don't have tuxedos

940
01:01:54.199 --> 01:02:00.239
in the future. I don't know, I mean Japanese fruities future. Yeah,

941
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:02.840
I mean thirteen proper has a pretty
specific esthetic to it doesn't look like

942
01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:07.480
that stuff would fit into and then
Aguito or whatever. Yeah. I think

943
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:13.639
started as a mobile game, right, that's that sounds right. I think

944
01:02:13.639 --> 01:02:15.519
it was a phone game to begin
with in Japan, and then it transitioned

945
01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:20.800
also to PSP, yeah, I
believe, And now it has been renamed.

946
01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:23.639
I don't think thirteen actually appears in
the title anymore. Okay, it's

947
01:02:24.360 --> 01:02:27.800
I think it's got a zero in
the title. Now, well we'll get

948
01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:32.079
is that that duodecam No, that's
the city is too, okay, making

949
01:02:32.119 --> 01:02:36.679
another deity? Yeah, I guess
the city was pretty popular. I guess

950
01:02:36.679 --> 01:02:37.639
that one, Yeah, I guess
I could see that one selling pretty well,

951
01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:43.840
but virtual on. But with Sefirof, I don't want to say the

952
01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:52.599
like deeply to a very specific segments
two things I kind of dislike mashed together

953
01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:55.760
awesome, not not necessary for you. Yeah, but the only real new

954
01:02:55.840 --> 01:03:00.559
thing here right now is Final Fantasy
thirteen two has been an hour and you

955
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:02.280
know, if they fixed what was
wrong, busted on it, that could

956
01:03:02.280 --> 01:03:08.360
be kind of cool, although obviously
they did not and take a fucking break,

957
01:03:09.159 --> 01:03:13.159
and it just makes it even crazier, like they took the time to

958
01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:16.199
announce all these Final Fantasy thirteen games
and then that wasn't enough, like we

959
01:03:16.320 --> 01:03:20.000
need one more, No, we
need one more this, this, and

960
01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:23.519
they still haven't. They still haven't
put out yeah, exactly exactly, and

961
01:03:23.559 --> 01:03:28.280
they did those announcements a long time
ago. It's it's and and also Final

962
01:03:28.360 --> 01:03:32.320
Fantasy fourteen is still technically out,
so when his Final Fantasy fourteen two coming

963
01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:38.639
that that came out when they fired
all the original staff, Yeah, it's

964
01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:42.880
it's being worked on right now,
I mean, or do they just like

965
01:03:43.079 --> 01:03:45.199
to take them off the project?
And there was a lot of like stepping

966
01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:51.599
down and leaving the honor of my
family calling on this sword somewhere all Japan.

967
01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:55.400
Right, oh, man, when
did they announce S fifteen? Didn't

968
01:03:55.400 --> 01:04:00.760
they already do they? Can you
go that h XV man, that's powerful

969
01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:09.519
looking. You have clean numbers.
You have to the Final Fantasy feel exclusively

970
01:04:09.639 --> 01:04:14.679
on the Xbox, Right? Yeah? At that point? Why not?

971
01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:18.719
I don't know, kid? Can
you can you ever bread? Do you

972
01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:23.800
think you can ever get Final Fantasy
back to where Final Fantasy was? I

973
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:28.199
don't like was like when though,
like what final what part of Final Fantasy

974
01:04:28.280 --> 01:04:30.880
do you want to get back to? It feels? I mean as far

975
01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:34.679
as like the three eras are gonna
be your snest era, your plays one

976
01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:39.400
era, yeah, and your PS
two, Like do you want four,

977
01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:44.440
seven or ten? I just relevant. Those were the three times when I

978
01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:48.199
feel like it was more than just
like. I'm not just saying like,

979
01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:51.840
oh I want more spiky hair or
I like Knights and Red Mages. I'm

980
01:04:51.840 --> 01:04:57.320
just saying those were times when Final
Fantasy was at the forefront one of the

981
01:04:57.360 --> 01:05:01.400
most popular, influential, and important
fucking franchises out there in video games.

982
01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:05.719
It hasn't been that way since ten. The last one I loved unconditionally was

983
01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:09.960
six, So I don't know if
I'm the best person to answer that question,

984
01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:13.119
what were your conditions on seven?
Just because I know how everyone revers

985
01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:17.960
that game, which I've never played, I seem to remember being it being

986
01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:20.000
a little clunky. I mean,
you know, it was their first try

987
01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:24.119
and riety game and all that CG
and stuff like. There was a lot

988
01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:28.079
of kind of weirdly put together aspects
of that game. Fixed camera angles,

989
01:05:28.119 --> 01:05:32.280
pre rendered background, yeah, all
that stuff, yes, yes, but

990
01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:35.159
even like down to like the aesthetics
of the CG. Like some of the

991
01:05:35.199 --> 01:05:40.719
CG had realistic looking characters. Other
CG had like the little cheby dudes with

992
01:05:40.840 --> 01:05:45.840
no mouse and like the little like
ball hands and stuff like super inconsistent.

993
01:05:45.679 --> 01:05:49.079
I didn't think the story was great, fair enough. I don't know,

994
01:05:49.400 --> 01:06:00.480
make a Reactors dude planet the Spirits
within, Yeah, spirits with I don't

995
01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:02.159
wonder what that company would be like
if they had never made a movie.

996
01:06:04.239 --> 01:06:09.000
Can you imagine? Probably about the
same, Like I don't actually fifteen should

997
01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:12.960
just be based on the Spirits within
the retelling those yeah, those ideas would

998
01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:15.639
have just been made into a game. The spirits within too. I mean,

999
01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:17.760
I mean, like financially, for
like, just regarding the fate of

1000
01:06:17.760 --> 01:06:20.760
the company, I think that that
merger, the merger with Nix was essentially

1001
01:06:21.079 --> 01:06:25.719
like, oh god, a result
of their difficulties post post movie. Right,

1002
01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:29.039
they spent a lot of money on
that movie. Maybe I'm mistaken,

1003
01:06:29.159 --> 01:06:30.039
but that was my impression at the
time. Yeah, I don't, I

1004
01:06:30.039 --> 01:06:33.960
mean, I don't know. I
do remember hearing that it would was going

1005
01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:39.360
really poorly for them. Yeah,
after that stuff. Yeah, didn't Sony

1006
01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:41.960
like did Sony hitch their wagon to
that movie in a big way? Also?

1007
01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:46.119
Like money wise? Possibly remember would
make some sense? Yeah, you

1008
01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:49.079
know, because it was a it
was a paramount yeah production, and that

1009
01:06:49.199 --> 01:07:00.639
in paramount is son no paramounoun Columbia, Columbia, Sony. I forget.

1010
01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:09.079
Maybe anyways, Fantasy thirteen two,
it'll have dress orbs oh j pop.

1011
01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:12.920
That'd be the best, the best
thing that they can make it. Yeah.

1012
01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:17.519
Uh. Some some interesting news concerning
Portal two has been announced, specifically

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with the PS three steam stuff.
I don't understand it though, does anyone

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01:07:23.400 --> 01:07:28.000
else here? Cross platform play?
Yeah, but then there's this other thing

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01:07:28.079 --> 01:07:31.400
about all right, so there's cross
platform play. Yes, that part I

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01:07:31.519 --> 01:07:35.440
get. Yeah, so what's what's
the rest of it? You will take

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01:07:35.559 --> 01:07:40.280
your Steam credentials and put them into
the PS three version of the game,

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01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:44.599
okay, which will then just pull
in your Steam friends list as a separate

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01:07:44.679 --> 01:07:47.719
list on the PS three or on
the p S three version of Portal two

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01:07:47.760 --> 01:07:50.519
more rightly, so it's not going
to show up on your doubt cross media,

1021
01:07:50.679 --> 01:07:54.159
no, probably, Like you'll put
in the game and ever that stuff

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01:07:55.480 --> 01:08:00.320
so you can then chat with those
people in inside of Portal two. Strangely

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01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:02.039
enough, it actually spells that out
in the press release, but the wording

1024
01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:04.880
is very clear, like like within
the game, you will put in your

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01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:15.639
Steam stuff like they explicitly a separate
Steam client or like installing Steam and basically

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01:08:15.479 --> 01:08:20.039
anyone who goes through all the stuff
of linking their PlayStation Network account to their

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01:08:20.039 --> 01:08:26.159
Steam account will receive Portal two on
the PC for free and Mac and Mac.

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01:08:26.279 --> 01:08:28.840
Yeah, they will get access to
the other two versions of Portal two,

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01:08:29.239 --> 01:08:32.560
which means you should buy the PS
three version of Portal two. When

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01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:35.760
it comes time to buy port You're
gonna get one, Yeah, you might

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01:08:35.800 --> 01:08:39.920
as well, unless it's way cheaper
on Steam and you just have no interest

1032
01:08:39.960 --> 01:08:42.720
in the PS three version, right, which is actually distinctly possible that it

1033
01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:45.359
would be cheaper on It probably would
be ten dollars cheaper. That's kind of

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01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:49.239
the I don't know if that constitut's
way cheaper, it's probably would definitely,

1035
01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:56.159
it's wild that game is coming to
three sixty also, right, yes,

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01:08:56.399 --> 01:08:59.720
yeah, I feel like yeah,
like this just makes me think that this

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01:08:59.840 --> 01:09:02.680
is Valve just really putting the screws
to Microsoft with like, come played by

1038
01:09:02.760 --> 01:09:05.399
our rules, or we are just
going to completely shut you out. Like

1039
01:09:05.479 --> 01:09:09.640
yeah, technically we're gonna make a
three sixty version, but we're gonna make

1040
01:09:09.680 --> 01:09:13.840
it so enticing to play either the
PC or PS three versions, because they'll

1041
01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:16.079
get the updates the post release that
the three sixty one we'll have to jump

1042
01:09:16.119 --> 01:09:18.800
through all those hoops to get right
and all that sort of we pay for

1043
01:09:19.279 --> 01:09:21.920
right, well, for patches and
stuff, and I'm saying for contact.

1044
01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:25.840
Yeah, but even even for patches
like PS three will get them damn date

1045
01:09:26.079 --> 01:09:30.880
presumably with PC, whereas the Xbox
patches have to go through certain all that

1046
01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:33.359
stuff. I see myself just getting
the PC version as much as I enjoyed

1047
01:09:33.359 --> 01:09:35.960
playing Portal on the on the three
sixty, but I will probably just get

1048
01:09:36.039 --> 01:09:39.680
the PC version. Games are made
to be played on the PC as far

1049
01:09:39.680 --> 01:09:41.760
as I'm concerning, So I'm with
you on that. But I mean,

1050
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:44.079
I really like the three sixty version
of Orange Box like that was you know,

1051
01:09:44.239 --> 01:09:47.479
I I don't have a problem playing
them like that, but you know

1052
01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:53.479
it was better. Yeah, But
there's just the issue of the way Valve

1053
01:09:53.760 --> 01:09:59.319
valves post release support methods. Yeah, And you know, and I canna

1054
01:09:59.399 --> 01:10:02.000
understand it being tricky. I can
understand those happen to be like very slow

1055
01:10:02.119 --> 01:10:05.479
going negotiations of you know, Valve
coming in and saying, hey, we

1056
01:10:05.560 --> 01:10:10.720
want you to give up a great
deal of the control you have over your

1057
01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:15.720
platform to us so that we can
push out updates whenever we wants, go

1058
01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:18.760
through your quality assurance process bypass all
of the stuff you put in place to

1059
01:10:18.800 --> 01:10:24.600
make sure everything works. Also as
holders of a competing yes, yeah,

1060
01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:28.079
as people that yeah, exactly.
I mean it's essentially like them walking into

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01:10:28.079 --> 01:10:30.760
the room and just saying, hey, we want to be treated specially yeah,

1062
01:10:31.119 --> 01:10:33.600
which I guess arguably they have the
cloud to do at this point.

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01:10:34.359 --> 01:10:38.960
That's funny thing is like not on
consoles though, it's kind of weird that,

1064
01:10:39.199 --> 01:10:42.560
you know, and and this move
doesn't, like all of a sudden,

1065
01:10:42.640 --> 01:10:45.920
make them huge on the on the
on the p S three if if

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01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:49.560
anything, all this really does is
get them a lot more customers on Steam.

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01:10:50.199 --> 01:10:53.640
If someone buys the p S three
version of the game and then they

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01:10:53.720 --> 01:10:55.439
get that for free, why wouldn't
they go like, oh, I guess

1069
01:10:55.439 --> 01:10:57.880
I'll go sign up for a Steam
account so I can be you know,

1070
01:10:58.079 --> 01:11:00.760
so I can tie into all these
pss I wonder if people. So it

1071
01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:04.399
gets them a bigger database of users. It makes Steam bigger like that that

1072
01:11:04.520 --> 01:11:08.520
to me, So it seems like
they play That's why they're giving out free

1073
01:11:08.560 --> 01:11:11.880
copies of these versions of Portal two, which is the same reason like they

1074
01:11:11.920 --> 01:11:15.119
gave away Portal for free on Steam
last year. Yeah, get people to

1075
01:11:15.159 --> 01:11:19.600
sign up. It's like just another
awesome and insane thing Valve is doing because

1076
01:11:19.680 --> 01:11:25.720
they can. However, given the
recent developments in PS three security, Yeah,

1077
01:11:25.760 --> 01:11:30.640
if Valve gets fact working well yeah
on the PS three yeah, like

1078
01:11:30.760 --> 01:11:34.640
that could be that could be key. That could be a significant develop If

1079
01:11:34.720 --> 01:11:38.199
third third parties, it seems like
are going to be in need of some

1080
01:11:38.359 --> 01:11:43.399
better protection from cheats and hacks and
that sort of stuff. I don't know

1081
01:11:43.439 --> 01:11:46.279
if you saw this stuff, but
Modern Warfare two apparent it's actually I guess

1082
01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:49.319
it's been a best for a while. Yeah, but the recent news of

1083
01:11:49.399 --> 01:11:55.399
the PlayStation platform being kind of cracked
wide open, or in the process of

1084
01:11:55.439 --> 01:11:58.520
getting cracked wide open, it's certainly
not helping. Like the headlines that we're

1085
01:11:58.520 --> 01:12:02.359
going around about Modern Warfare two years
today, we're well, it's because Robert

1086
01:12:02.399 --> 01:12:05.000
Bowling was on Twitter saying we are
not updating the game because of this,

1087
01:12:05.279 --> 01:12:10.159
which is it all. I get
where they're coming from, right, But

1088
01:12:10.199 --> 01:12:12.279
at the same time, they should
just say that's an old game. We're

1089
01:12:12.319 --> 01:12:14.760
working on something else, Like come
on, don't be crazy. But I

1090
01:12:14.800 --> 01:12:17.079
mean, anytime you throw around the
world unplayable like that, yeah, like

1091
01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:20.159
it's it's kind of like a sky
is falling elements. The thing is is

1092
01:12:20.199 --> 01:12:24.359
that it also happens without three to
sixty. It's just a harder process because

1093
01:12:24.399 --> 01:12:28.319
people have to have hardware modified three
sixties to do that stuff. And it's

1094
01:12:28.359 --> 01:12:32.000
not it is not the but I
mean easy process. I also get where,

1095
01:12:32.119 --> 01:12:34.239
like I get where they're coming from. Where where they say like,

1096
01:12:34.319 --> 01:12:38.039
look, we yes, we are
aware there are all these others, these

1097
01:12:38.119 --> 01:12:42.159
other issues that pre date yeah,
and they could fix those, but at

1098
01:12:42.199 --> 01:12:44.800
this point, with that, with
the security and the state that it is,

1099
01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:47.479
it would be relatively trivial for someone
else to find a new way to

1100
01:12:47.720 --> 01:12:51.800
rip that game open again, So
it's probably not worth their time to go

1101
01:12:51.880 --> 01:12:57.039
and fix it. Also, probably
you know, third of three in their

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01:12:57.119 --> 01:13:01.439
platforms for volume of players, yep, between Yeah, for sure, certainly,

1103
01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:05.319
that's that's definitely. I mean,
you can see Sony being super willing

1104
01:13:05.399 --> 01:13:09.399
to be flexible with them purely because
of the way they got the shaft on

1105
01:13:09.439 --> 01:13:13.199
the Orange Box, Like they're probably
gonna bend over backward at this point to

1106
01:13:13.279 --> 01:13:16.000
get the next Valve game on their
system, like in a really great and

1107
01:13:16.319 --> 01:13:19.800
non shitty form. Well maybe at
the Orange Box they got and it was

1108
01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:25.159
really bad and then they just wasn't
it was a third party port. Valve

1109
01:13:25.239 --> 01:13:28.199
had nothing to do with the PS
three version. But to Jeff's point,

1110
01:13:28.279 --> 01:13:30.039
I don't know that Valve still,
you know, carries that much fucking water

1111
01:13:30.159 --> 01:13:32.760
on the p S three. I
think they have to do stuff like say,

1112
01:13:32.760 --> 01:13:35.079
you'll get this PC version all this
other crazy shit, if you buy

1113
01:13:35.079 --> 01:13:39.000
it on the p S three.
They have to incentivize it with the cloud

1114
01:13:39.079 --> 01:13:43.239
that they have on the on the
PC, which makes like the PCPs three

1115
01:13:43.359 --> 01:13:47.439
connection seem less crazy. It's like
that's why they're doing it in part and

1116
01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:51.079
again, you know, more more
users signing up only only helps Steam.

1117
01:13:51.279 --> 01:13:56.439
But with the state of the PlayStation
three is never fuckers those guys at Valve,

1118
01:13:56.520 --> 01:13:59.680
they're they're diabolical. God damn it. With the state of the PlayStation

1119
01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:02.560
three security being what it is,
if they could yeah what you were saying,

1120
01:14:02.600 --> 01:14:06.680
if they could get VAC running and
actually create that as a good middleware

1121
01:14:06.760 --> 01:14:14.119
platform for uh other developers that want
to secure their PlayStation three games from this

1122
01:14:14.560 --> 01:14:18.479
ongoing menace, Like there's probably money
to be made in the anti cheat middleware

1123
01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:26.600
that provides all PS three security sport. That's that's seems like a possible future

1124
01:14:27.439 --> 01:14:30.239
at all, but at least one
workable. But then suddenly the back is

1125
01:14:30.279 --> 01:14:34.319
perfect. But suddenly have a bunch
of PS three games that aren't produced by

1126
01:14:34.479 --> 01:14:40.119
Valve that feature Steam right for the
VAC. Yeah, I think that could.

1127
01:14:40.319 --> 01:14:44.000
I think I think that's that's POSSI
if it came down to if it

1128
01:14:44.079 --> 01:14:47.199
came down to either like license that
or invest a bunch of your own resources

1129
01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:49.720
into anti cheating measures, right,
you can see it happening. Yeah,

1130
01:14:49.880 --> 01:14:54.520
Jeff, what is the state of
PS three security? I want to talk

1131
01:14:54.520 --> 01:14:57.600
about this and it's it's uh.
I mean we did talk about some of

1132
01:14:57.680 --> 01:15:00.760
it last week. Yea, as
has the state change, Danny, they

1133
01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:04.279
are advancing, they are, you
know, it's the stuff that was originally

1134
01:15:04.319 --> 01:15:13.399
released was done so uh without the
ability to easily pirate stuff. But that

1135
01:15:14.239 --> 01:15:15.560
just seems like kind of a facade
to me, and that stuff is kind

1136
01:15:15.560 --> 01:15:20.680
of rapidly falling the level two security
or whatever it is. You know that

1137
01:15:20.760 --> 01:15:25.079
the stuff has been released that is
actually breaking PlayStation threes. So if you're

1138
01:15:25.119 --> 01:15:27.800
out there thinking about like hey,
I want to run this custom from where

1139
01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:30.680
and do you know even just to
place nest games or something like that,

1140
01:15:30.840 --> 01:15:34.960
like it's because it does not all
safe, because it doesn't work right,

1141
01:15:35.079 --> 01:15:40.039
or because they're maliciously disguised because it's
because it doesn't work right. I think

1142
01:15:40.079 --> 01:15:42.199
it is the case. I don't
I don't think. I don't think anyone's

1143
01:15:42.199 --> 01:15:45.520
out there breaking PS three is on
purpose. But who can say that could

1144
01:15:45.560 --> 01:15:48.720
just as easily be the case,
but I don't think that's the case.

1145
01:15:49.760 --> 01:15:53.960
I'm gonna be interested in in kind
of talking to developers over the next few

1146
01:15:53.960 --> 01:15:56.560
weeks where we're gonna get a chance
to talk to a grip of them and

1147
01:15:56.880 --> 01:16:00.960
uh yeah, see kind of what
what their take is on this stuff,

1148
01:16:00.039 --> 01:16:05.079
because it seems like something where Sony
has the ability or the potential to regain

1149
01:16:05.159 --> 01:16:10.800
control of at least the online environment
and prevent people with modified systems from getting

1150
01:16:10.840 --> 01:16:15.079
online and ruining online games. But
don't We don't know that for sure,

1151
01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:19.199
and I think that's gonna be kind
of game by game for now until Sony

1152
01:16:19.319 --> 01:16:21.760
does do something about it. They've
they've been saying, you know, hey,

1153
01:16:21.880 --> 01:16:26.119
we are aware we have a fixtion
the works, but because it's related

1154
01:16:26.119 --> 01:16:29.119
to security, we cannot give details
because that would just be playing into their

1155
01:16:29.159 --> 01:16:35.319
hands and giving them info about what
we're changing. But I think at you

1156
01:16:35.439 --> 01:16:39.960
know, this at least creates the
similar environment to what you saw on the

1157
01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:43.960
PSP where there were people just releasing
custom firmwares and then updating those. You

1158
01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:46.359
know, so Sony would release an
update to the official firmware and you need

1159
01:16:46.439 --> 01:16:48.560
that to get on the store and
then you need that to get online.

1160
01:16:48.720 --> 01:16:54.119
Yeah, so it kind of shuts
out all the people with the older hacked

1161
01:16:54.199 --> 01:16:57.399
firmware from from getting online at all, and then you would see you know,

1162
01:16:57.600 --> 01:17:02.560
updated custom firmwares based on the these
new revisions coming out to enable hackers

1163
01:17:02.600 --> 01:17:05.560
and pirates and stuff like that to
potentially get back online on the PSP.

1164
01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:14.119
So I think that is likely to
happen in the future. I think what

1165
01:17:14.359 --> 01:17:18.560
needs to happen is Sony needs to
be able to detect modified systems period Like,

1166
01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:23.319
even if they're running firmware that gets
past the initial initial check and can

1167
01:17:23.399 --> 01:17:26.199
connect to the PlayStation network, they
need to be able to look at a

1168
01:17:26.239 --> 01:17:30.800
PS three and say that's not legit, get off and ban systems that basically,

1169
01:17:30.960 --> 01:17:33.439
you know, like like Microsoft does. They need to be able to

1170
01:17:33.520 --> 01:17:39.199
ban at the hardware level, which
I'm fairly certain they can do, it's

1171
01:17:39.239 --> 01:17:42.279
just a matter of implementing it and
stuff. But is that preferable to banning

1172
01:17:42.279 --> 01:17:45.520
at the account level. Yeah,
because the accounts are free to create,

1173
01:17:45.800 --> 01:17:48.920
so there's nothing holding people back.
I think you have to ban both.

1174
01:17:49.399 --> 01:17:53.039
You have to ban the words and
the account. You know, why why

1175
01:17:53.119 --> 01:17:55.560
take chances. Yeah, I mean, I guess the only count of argument

1176
01:17:55.600 --> 01:17:59.479
is maybe that person learns their lesson, goes out and buys another PS three

1177
01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:01.479
at actually wants to play nice.
But then they then they can sign it

1178
01:18:01.520 --> 01:18:04.960
for another account and go from there. That's you know, you take all

1179
01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:12.279
of your PlayStation network purchases, uh
into you know, you put them all

1180
01:18:12.279 --> 01:18:15.600
over do that sort of stuff.
So that's what changed, because it seemed

1181
01:18:15.600 --> 01:18:20.000
like they like people had kind of
been kind of casually poking at the PS

1182
01:18:20.039 --> 01:18:26.159
three for a while, but then
these these codes got out here like this,

1183
01:18:26.359 --> 01:18:30.760
the security keys got out. Yeah, I think think what changed to

1184
01:18:30.880 --> 01:18:34.680
hear them tell it, what changed
is that Sony removed the others support from

1185
01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:38.439
the firmware. That that was when
it went to more than casual. Then

1186
01:18:38.479 --> 01:18:40.399
it was like, well, if
they're going to do that to us,

1187
01:18:40.520 --> 01:18:42.720
let's see if we can readd it, or let's take a look at this

1188
01:18:42.840 --> 01:18:46.880
thing so that we can do weird
stuff with the PlayStation three. And yeah,

1189
01:18:46.960 --> 01:18:49.680
to hear them tell it. To
hear the some of the people responsible

1190
01:18:49.720 --> 01:18:55.920
for the kind of initial load of
information tell it it is specifically why they

1191
01:18:56.479 --> 01:18:59.039
went and take took a look at
it. Like they were like they were

1192
01:18:59.039 --> 01:19:02.319
getting their needs met with the basic
others support and with like Okay, we

1193
01:19:02.399 --> 01:19:04.840
can run Linux on it and do
some weird stuff and kind of hack around

1194
01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:11.079
with it and that's fun. Yeah, but pick that out. But they

1195
01:19:11.159 --> 01:19:15.479
took it out because of a security
issue. So yeah, you know,

1196
01:19:15.520 --> 01:19:18.720
they didn't just remove it kind of
out of nowhere. Sure was that confirmed?

1197
01:19:19.479 --> 01:19:23.319
Yeah, there was some kind of
was that. Yeah, people wasn't

1198
01:19:23.359 --> 01:19:26.039
like an excuse. It was that
kind of initial thing where it's like,

1199
01:19:26.079 --> 01:19:28.520
okay, if you put a paper
clip across this bit here, or you

1200
01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:30.600
know, some kind of initial way
to get it to boot into some weird

1201
01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:33.479
stuff, and it was through the
other OS. I wish that lives.

1202
01:19:33.520 --> 01:19:36.439
I think is what eventually led to
the creation of some weird USB key that

1203
01:19:36.479 --> 01:19:39.680
you would use for piracy. I
wish I had read up more on this.

1204
01:19:39.840 --> 01:19:43.760
I saw a theory put forth somewhere
that they had plans to monetize the

1205
01:19:43.840 --> 01:19:46.960
other s OS feature that they failed
to realize. But I don't even know

1206
01:19:47.079 --> 01:19:51.159
what. Yeah, I don't know
if that business model would have been license

1207
01:19:51.319 --> 01:19:54.640
OSS to appear. And they feel
like there are a lot of things on

1208
01:19:54.720 --> 01:19:57.640
the p S three that perhaps were
intended to be monetized at one time or

1209
01:19:57.640 --> 01:20:00.000
another that simply did not come to
fruition. So you know, that would

1210
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:05.680
not surprise me. But an ongoing
story, Yeah, yeah, an ongoing

1211
01:20:05.760 --> 01:20:11.119
story. I do think that Sony
will regain control, but at this point,

1212
01:20:11.159 --> 01:20:14.520
with it open, at this state, uh, it seems like it'll

1213
01:20:14.520 --> 01:20:18.880
be in that state where if people
want to live this life of only installing

1214
01:20:18.960 --> 01:20:24.640
hacked firmware and only updating to hacked
firmware and staying off the place, they

1215
01:20:24.720 --> 01:20:30.319
staying off of the or you know
it provided that they do lock that down

1216
01:20:30.960 --> 01:20:34.520
right, that that there will always
now be a method for piracy on the

1217
01:20:34.560 --> 01:20:38.039
PS three that they're always going to
be They're always going to be able to

1218
01:20:38.079 --> 01:20:43.039
hack those keys out and and do
you know piracy on the PS three without

1219
01:20:43.039 --> 01:20:45.800
any kind of hardware modification. That
seems like the big difference is the no

1220
01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:50.600
hardware mod because that that makes it
a lot easier for it to be casual.

1221
01:20:50.760 --> 01:20:54.520
It's a it's a big thing that
you know, people point to with

1222
01:20:54.680 --> 01:20:59.000
the PSP when it comes to not
you know, not putting their games on

1223
01:20:59.079 --> 01:21:02.720
PSP or kind of being indifferent about
the state of PSP development. You know

1224
01:21:02.760 --> 01:21:04.479
there are developers out that that say, like, well, you know,

1225
01:21:04.640 --> 01:21:09.680
yeah, when I'm number seven on
the top ten digital downloads list and I

1226
01:21:10.159 --> 01:21:13.880
know that I've only sold a few
hundred copies, uh, that's no good.

1227
01:21:14.079 --> 01:21:15.720
And then if I put it out
into retail stores, it just gets

1228
01:21:16.560 --> 01:21:20.119
hacked part and pirated all over the
place because that's so easy, you know.

1229
01:21:20.239 --> 01:21:24.880
It's it's like the Dreamcast was where
it's just like it just kind of

1230
01:21:24.960 --> 01:21:29.920
works, and that's Uh, that's
bad. And I don't think the p

1231
01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:31.039
S three is there quite yet,
but who knows. By the time this

1232
01:21:31.159 --> 01:21:34.840
goes live, could be. Well, it sounds like they may be announcing

1233
01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:40.239
a PSP two sometime soon, yeah, or you know, acknowledging that the

1234
01:21:40.279 --> 01:21:44.039
PSP two exists, they already did. Well, there was like there's the

1235
01:21:44.079 --> 01:21:45.199
interviews like in the New York Times
or something, or it's like, if

1236
01:21:45.239 --> 01:21:49.800
a PSP two were to exist,
that'll mean do you think there'll be a

1237
01:21:49.840 --> 01:21:54.640
separate thing from all this PlayStation phone? If I were to kill my wife,

1238
01:21:57.000 --> 01:22:00.520
because those were also similar, that's
a separate thing. It's a separate

1239
01:22:00.520 --> 01:22:03.520
thing. PlayStation phone is like a
Sony ericson thing, right, presumably,

1240
01:22:03.680 --> 01:22:06.199
Yeah, and then oh right,
that's right, I forgot all that separate

1241
01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:13.359
brand line Expedia. No, what
there's some experia I think is the the

1242
01:22:14.279 --> 01:22:18.960
brand line of Sony Ericson phones the
new size of Starbucks drinks. It's also

1243
01:22:19.039 --> 01:22:24.800
that. So that's supposedly that phone
is supposedly like an Android based phone that

1244
01:22:24.880 --> 01:22:30.840
has like basic PlayStation controls under a
PSP go like Slider, PSP go like

1245
01:22:30.199 --> 01:22:38.159
under slider. Yeah. Yeah,
but the PSP two sounds like it's going

1246
01:22:38.239 --> 01:22:41.840
to be way more powerful than any
kind of Android device. I think the

1247
01:22:42.039 --> 01:22:46.840
rumored specs of the PlayStation phone were
less than PSP one. If you yeah,

1248
01:22:47.560 --> 01:22:50.960
I think yeah, So it's just
something to confuse the market with basically,

1249
01:22:53.079 --> 01:22:55.640
yeah, if it exists. I
mean that sounds like something where where

1250
01:22:55.680 --> 01:23:00.520
Sony Ericson has probably been like bugging
Sony Computer Entertainment for a long time,

1251
01:23:00.560 --> 01:23:02.479
saying let us leverage the PlayStation brand, and they said, no, get

1252
01:23:02.560 --> 01:23:09.560
your filthy ass phonemits off of our
brandy. And then at some point someone

1253
01:23:09.640 --> 01:23:13.840
said, all right, fine,
stay away from me Scandinavia. Fine you

1254
01:23:13.920 --> 01:23:19.319
can, you can muddy up the
PlayStation brand with your stupid phone. Yeah,

1255
01:23:19.319 --> 01:23:25.399
I don't know uh. People are
saying the twenty seventh seventh for PSP

1256
01:23:25.560 --> 01:23:29.319
two in the some sort of announcements
the day after the Japanese launch of the

1257
01:23:29.359 --> 01:23:33.279
three DS. Wait, I thought
three DS was in February. Yeah,

1258
01:23:33.520 --> 01:23:38.960
I'm saying February. February twenty six, January twenty seven. Thought, I

1259
01:23:38.960 --> 01:23:42.119
thought the announcement was supposed to be
this morn pretty all right, Okay,

1260
01:23:42.119 --> 01:23:45.239
so a month before then that would
make some good marketing sense. Yeah,

1261
01:23:45.279 --> 01:23:48.399
okay, that's what that's the rumor
anyway, right right, right right from

1262
01:23:48.399 --> 01:23:56.479
anonymous sources. Yeah, sorry,
anonymous, Yeah, we'll see. Yeah.

1263
01:23:56.560 --> 01:23:59.800
Then PSP two supposedly has touch screen
on the front and then touch sense

1264
01:23:59.800 --> 01:24:01.880
to the grips on the back,
and two cameras and all kinds of fucking

1265
01:24:01.960 --> 01:24:05.479
crazy shit. So if all that
turns out to be true, that thing

1266
01:24:05.560 --> 01:24:09.920
could be bananas. Let's see somewhere. If people are saying like almost powerful

1267
01:24:09.960 --> 01:24:12.920
as PS three, that's yeah,
that's kind of what they're saying. But

1268
01:24:13.079 --> 01:24:15.319
it seems a touch ludicrous. Maybe
seems a little I think you maybe have

1269
01:24:15.760 --> 01:24:18.640
because the smaller screen and that sort
of stuff, maybe you could have games

1270
01:24:18.720 --> 01:24:21.319
that if you looked at them for
in a couple of seconds, you would

1271
01:24:21.439 --> 01:24:25.279
like it that looks like a PS
three game, But if you stare at

1272
01:24:25.319 --> 01:24:29.399
them longer, you go but it's
not. I'm a little disappointed in you,

1273
01:24:29.479 --> 01:24:32.720
Brad. What I feel like like
we've all gone through enough hardware launches

1274
01:24:33.319 --> 01:24:39.319
to know better than to than to
even acknowledge whenever someone says like this is

1275
01:24:39.399 --> 01:24:45.000
like a Pixar movie, or it's
as powerful as a thing that's different that

1276
01:24:45.600 --> 01:24:49.039
that's qualitative versus quantitative specifications. Like
if you say, but this is almost

1277
01:24:49.039 --> 01:24:51.479
as powerful as a p S three
and you can look at like clock speed

1278
01:24:51.560 --> 01:24:56.279
and amount of memory, and like, I don't know. I don't think

1279
01:24:56.279 --> 01:24:58.680
people are doing that based off the
specs. I think people are saying,

1280
01:24:58.760 --> 01:25:00.880
like we can make the gamest good. I don't. I don't know that

1281
01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:04.359
it's necessarily specs related, all right, So I just feel like there's enough

1282
01:25:04.439 --> 01:25:09.920
of that that bullshit gets every time
that's like, you know what, I'll

1283
01:25:09.960 --> 01:25:13.000
go see it myself and then I'll
fucking decide if it looks good or not,

1284
01:25:13.640 --> 01:25:17.000
and That'll be enough. Sure,
I think that thing could be awesome

1285
01:25:17.279 --> 01:25:20.800
if all the rumors about what it
supposedly is turn out to be true.

1286
01:25:23.439 --> 01:25:30.319
It at least solves the problem of
just being a portable console thing. If

1287
01:25:30.359 --> 01:25:32.960
they start to do different stuff and
take advantage of the kind of control schemes

1288
01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:39.479
and and and camera stuff like,
it's it's kind of a crazy fucking time

1289
01:25:39.560 --> 01:25:43.760
to put out a new handheld yea
though, I mean, but I mean,

1290
01:25:43.800 --> 01:25:45.279
you know, I guess Sony kind
of has to at a certain point.

1291
01:25:45.319 --> 01:25:49.520
I mean, Nintendo's putting one out
and the PSP is, Yeah,

1292
01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:55.399
the PSP is is a non factor. Yeah, but just it's I feel

1293
01:25:55.439 --> 01:26:00.760
like the chunks that that phones have
been taking out of that portable handheld market,

1294
01:26:00.840 --> 01:26:03.760
it's it's made that market weirder than
it's ever been. It's weird because

1295
01:26:03.760 --> 01:26:09.600
I actually found myself for as much
as I don't really like the games that

1296
01:26:09.680 --> 01:26:15.079
have appeared on it, Windows Phone
seven is the most sensible portable strategy of

1297
01:26:15.199 --> 01:26:17.399
any of the console manufacturers in a
way, it at least plays to the

1298
01:26:17.439 --> 01:26:23.640
strengths of the realities of the market
of like smartphones are blowing up. Yeah,

1299
01:26:24.119 --> 01:26:27.359
some of those games are making a
lot of money, and Microsoft is

1300
01:26:27.359 --> 01:26:31.039
the only one there in a meaningful
way from the console manufacturers. I mean,

1301
01:26:31.159 --> 01:26:34.640
you know that thing is, you
know, second to the iPhone if

1302
01:26:34.720 --> 01:26:39.520
that Yeah, well, from messing
around with that phone for for a good

1303
01:26:39.560 --> 01:26:44.239
long time, I would say I
would prefer it to Android. But it

1304
01:26:44.319 --> 01:26:46.680
does not replace my phone at all. No second to it in terms of

1305
01:26:46.800 --> 01:26:49.840
like your preference. Yeah, okay, Yeah, And you know, I

1306
01:26:49.880 --> 01:26:51.960
think the interface so I don't know. I just think it's it's an easier

1307
01:26:53.000 --> 01:26:55.239
to use thing. And you know
that they do a good job with the

1308
01:26:56.119 --> 01:27:01.159
game stuff. Yeah. I think
it's interesting that they're kind of the only

1309
01:27:01.199 --> 01:27:08.399
ones kind of playing to where that
market's going, whereas Nintendo and presumably assumingly

1310
01:27:08.960 --> 01:27:13.399
Sony are are chasing after the let's
make it crazy, let's make it three

1311
01:27:13.479 --> 01:27:15.319
D without glasses, or let's make
it so you touch it, and well,

1312
01:27:15.399 --> 01:27:20.000
let's make it crazy has been like
Nintendo's winning formula for Yeah, it's

1313
01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:23.119
been part of a decade, the
first half of it. The second half

1314
01:27:23.159 --> 01:27:26.640
has to be like you have to
deliver on software, the text advantage of

1315
01:27:26.680 --> 01:27:30.199
those stuff. Yeah, and they're
clearly not going to be the people to

1316
01:27:30.239 --> 01:27:34.720
make a good phone, so you
would buy Nintendo phone. No, you

1317
01:27:34.800 --> 01:27:40.399
have to put punch in people's friend
codes to call them your your phone number

1318
01:27:40.479 --> 01:27:45.079
is unique to this phone? Yeah, all right, what else is going

1319
01:27:45.119 --> 01:27:49.520
on? What? Actually? Those
are kind of the big things. Gears

1320
01:27:49.560 --> 01:27:54.520
were triple pack announce, which is
the worst name. I just like,

1321
01:27:55.199 --> 01:28:00.800
I'm only mentioning this, uh,
specifically because I think it's it's pretty profoundly

1322
01:28:00.880 --> 01:28:05.039
misleading. With the Gears of War
triple pack, you get three separate and

1323
01:28:05.199 --> 01:28:10.640
equal things in this thing. You
get Gears of War, Gears of War

1324
01:28:10.760 --> 01:28:15.119
two, and Gears of War All
Fronts Pack. Which does that come on

1325
01:28:15.199 --> 01:28:18.600
a disc? Is there three?
Is there three discs in the pack?

1326
01:28:18.720 --> 01:28:23.000
Like, that's the only thing I
think they can Because they did the Halo

1327
01:28:23.119 --> 01:28:28.560
triple pack of one, two and
the two Matt pack back in the day.

1328
01:28:29.640 --> 01:28:31.239
There is precedent. There is some
sort of precedent for them doing this.

1329
01:28:31.760 --> 01:28:33.760
But at least you could look at
the box and go, there are

1330
01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:39.479
three discs there, and that that
made some sort of sense, uh,

1331
01:28:40.199 --> 01:28:44.319
But selling DLC I don't. That's
the part where I'm like, what do

1332
01:28:44.800 --> 01:28:47.359
they ever sell that thing on a
disc? I think they did well.

1333
01:28:47.359 --> 01:28:49.920
I know they put out like a
Game of the Year edition or whatever of

1334
01:28:49.960 --> 01:28:54.159
Gears two that had all the DLC
with it. I don't know if it

1335
01:28:54.279 --> 01:28:57.680
was a disc. It could just
been a code for the download. Yeah,

1336
01:28:58.079 --> 01:28:59.960
I don't know if they've put it
all on the disc or yeah,

1337
01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:02.000
if you have to download that DLC
all fro us is the one with the

1338
01:29:02.039 --> 01:29:05.439
little sing single player episode kind of
thing. Yeah, where you put on

1339
01:29:05.520 --> 01:29:10.720
the stupid cost. Yeah, what
wasn't nothing like ten bucks to begin with

1340
01:29:11.239 --> 01:29:14.319
something like that? Yeah, this
is this is all the audio for all

1341
01:29:14.399 --> 01:29:16.920
every Yeah. Yeah, I'm just
I'm just going back to the name again.

1342
01:29:17.039 --> 01:29:20.640
Like this, this originally ten dollars
piece of DLC is somehow the third

1343
01:29:20.720 --> 01:29:24.600
pillar of this triple pack. I
think it kind of represents because they put

1344
01:29:24.720 --> 01:29:29.039
like all the gears to DLC on
there. Yeah. But other than that,

1345
01:29:29.119 --> 01:29:32.560
it's just map packs, right,
Yeah, like nineteen maps. It's

1346
01:29:32.600 --> 01:29:35.760
pretty good. It's not an insubstantial
Here's the thing. I don't think it's

1347
01:29:35.760 --> 01:29:41.439
a bad value at all. I
think the naming is just misleading. It's

1348
01:29:41.439 --> 01:29:45.239
just the name. Yeah, the
name is. It's terrible. But I'm

1349
01:29:45.319 --> 01:29:48.159
trying to like figure out why it
was less terrible when they did the Halo

1350
01:29:48.279 --> 01:29:51.720
thing. I think it's because there
was three discs there. If they put

1351
01:29:51.800 --> 01:29:54.680
this out. If they put this
out and there are three discs there,

1352
01:29:54.720 --> 01:29:59.039
then maybe it will seem less crazy. But I don't I don't know how

1353
01:29:59.079 --> 01:30:02.439
they plan to offer it. Brad. Any opinions on the most recent StarCraft

1354
01:30:02.520 --> 01:30:06.880
two patch, how is that?
Chat rock? In your world? Chat

1355
01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:10.640
rooms are kind of cool the one
two. Yeah, at one point two

1356
01:30:11.640 --> 01:30:15.760
there is a sometimes thriving giant Bomb
channel going so like regular asks, like

1357
01:30:15.880 --> 01:30:18.439
not game related chat room chat.
Yeah, it's just kind of like an

1358
01:30:18.479 --> 01:30:23.800
IRC channel, really taking it back
to original StarCraft style. Not exactly,

1359
01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:26.760
because old StarCraft, when you signed
up the battle neet, you were immediately

1360
01:30:26.840 --> 01:30:30.680
in just like this awful general chat
full of people spamming and like trying to

1361
01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:32.720
get you to join their big big
game Hunters game and stuff like that.

1362
01:30:32.960 --> 01:30:40.720
But there's no core embedded chat room
in this. There are pre made like

1363
01:30:40.760 --> 01:30:43.359
Blizzard channels that you can join,
but you can also make your own,

1364
01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:45.760
but they exist as just a little
pop up chat windows, just like the

1365
01:30:45.920 --> 01:30:51.600
kind of instant messaging stuff before,
so it's kind of less less intrusive.

1366
01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:56.319
I guess does it work cross game
That's a good question. I don't know.

1367
01:30:56.479 --> 01:31:00.439
I wonder if that stuff works on
Wow, I don't know. I

1368
01:31:00.640 --> 01:31:03.279
doubt it. I doubt it.
I think the coolest thing about it is

1369
01:31:03.359 --> 01:31:06.399
that it ato it makes you ought
to rejoin channels you were in when when

1370
01:31:06.439 --> 01:31:13.319
you quit last time, so you
can't have that constant social thing that you

1371
01:31:13.399 --> 01:31:15.279
didn't have before. Yeah. Yeah, like like when I signed into the

1372
01:31:15.319 --> 01:31:18.159
game. Now it just popped me
right into the gia bomb channel and it

1373
01:31:18.279 --> 01:31:23.079
was crazy that there were Saturday afternoon, I got in there and there were

1374
01:31:23.119 --> 01:31:27.199
some pretty big name pros in the
jai bomb channel. Nice Machine was in

1375
01:31:27.239 --> 01:31:30.920
there in control, who was probably
the best known EG guy Okay, short

1376
01:31:30.960 --> 01:31:34.359
of short of Hydra whatever. It's
a bunch of a bunch of names you

1377
01:31:34.399 --> 01:31:36.399
guys won't care about. But there
were a bunch of weird It was weird.

1378
01:31:36.439 --> 01:31:40.119
There were a bunch of actual recognizable
pros in the jaia Bomb channel and

1379
01:31:40.119 --> 01:31:43.640
then they all quit and then I
saw you join them, and then we'll

1380
01:31:43.640 --> 01:31:45.960
know. Actually, then somebody in
there was telling me there's an issue with

1381
01:31:45.079 --> 01:31:48.560
chat system at the moment where if
you send somebody an invite and they don't

1382
01:31:48.600 --> 01:31:54.119
decline it and auto joins them to
the channel, for somebody just invited all

1383
01:31:54.159 --> 01:31:58.880
those guys. Wow, yeah,
that was my understanding. Sorry guys,

1384
01:31:58.960 --> 01:32:03.720
so they'll never come back ever.
Sorry to Machine and cracker Jack, Silly

1385
01:32:03.800 --> 01:32:14.760
Putty, Sleep Sleeky ninety nine,
Kunk stabbed the Bishop Staircase Jam Death Rattle.

1386
01:32:15.920 --> 01:32:20.159
Uh you know what, you know
what, my new favorite with the

1387
01:32:20.279 --> 01:32:24.199
k my new favorite player ID.
And this guy's been around for a while

1388
01:32:24.279 --> 01:32:29.760
so it's nothing new, but his
name is the best. I just thought

1389
01:32:29.760 --> 01:32:30.920
about it. I was watching one
of his matches over the weekend and I

1390
01:32:31.039 --> 01:32:33.800
thought about it for a minute.
I'm thought about it for a minute and

1391
01:32:33.800 --> 01:32:38.680
I was just like fuck yeah,
like right there to the point, you

1392
01:32:38.720 --> 01:32:43.439
know what, there's actually there's another
guy whose ID is MVP. You should

1393
01:32:43.840 --> 01:32:48.600
He's just a big change name to
the best junior or the best to the

1394
01:32:48.760 --> 01:32:53.680
best est, miss the best.
The weirdest part is that the team he

1395
01:32:53.800 --> 01:32:58.359
is on is called foe you.
So his name when they spell the whole

1396
01:32:58.359 --> 01:33:02.640
thing out and say it is the
best, you great, I'm saying,

1397
01:33:02.720 --> 01:33:08.159
like the best is great until you
know when whenever he loses. Yeah,

1398
01:33:08.239 --> 01:33:12.680
he's he's been kind of a middle
tier player and it's the worst into a

1399
01:33:12.720 --> 01:33:14.680
corner and there, yeah, yeah, if you can't. If you can't

1400
01:33:14.760 --> 01:33:17.640
play to those levels, it's gonna
be a problem. But anything it hasn't

1401
01:33:17.680 --> 01:33:20.800
thrown off your your balance. It
has I've actually been losing a lot because

1402
01:33:20.800 --> 01:33:27.840
I've been trying to exploit the changes
that they made throwing off I'm just messing

1403
01:33:27.880 --> 01:33:30.680
around and seeing what I can do
with Like sure, certain certain units got

1404
01:33:30.800 --> 01:33:34.119
cheaper or fastered makes so I've been
trying some stuff with those and hasn't been

1405
01:33:34.199 --> 01:33:40.199
paying off. How's the master because
I'm not good at that stuff. That's

1406
01:33:40.640 --> 01:33:44.000
my only experience with it is that
I viewed the profile of all those guys

1407
01:33:44.039 --> 01:33:45.600
that were in the channel, and
they're all in the Master League. I

1408
01:33:45.680 --> 01:33:49.159
got to see what that icon looks
like, the profile word. But that's

1409
01:33:49.159 --> 01:33:54.760
about it. Cool. I have
a piece of news that I like to

1410
01:33:54.800 --> 01:33:59.640
throw out here real quick, something
that is breaking that Jeff will be very

1411
01:33:59.720 --> 01:34:02.560
excite at it. About all right, that's happening? Uh, macho man

1412
01:34:02.720 --> 01:34:09.319
Randy Savage, Okay, coming to
w w E All Stars great, which

1413
01:34:09.399 --> 01:34:14.039
I assume that you this is only
relevant the sense that macho man Ray Savage

1414
01:34:14.439 --> 01:34:17.079
hates the ww He's gonna say this
is Does this represent the end of a

1415
01:34:17.199 --> 01:34:20.359
decades long feud. It seems that
way because him and vinscent Man hate each

1416
01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:24.479
other and for years, that's why
he never appeared in like the SmackDown games

1417
01:34:24.600 --> 01:34:28.560
or anything else. Yeah, yeah, and now the Legends of Yeah,

1418
01:34:28.640 --> 01:34:31.319
and now he's in and uh.
In this video that has appeared on the

1419
01:34:31.359 --> 01:34:35.359
internet, he is looking an awful
lot like biker Santa Clause these days.

1420
01:34:35.640 --> 01:34:40.279
It was kind of messed up.
What I don't want to turn that around.

1421
01:34:40.279 --> 01:34:42.479
I don't want to see Yeah,
yeah, I've seen some recent photos.

1422
01:34:42.520 --> 01:34:45.680
I want to see that. It's
kind of it's kind of messed up.

1423
01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:48.000
But yeah, it was white.
That's a good beard. I like

1424
01:34:48.159 --> 01:34:51.800
that. So no, he because
he used to because when he was like

1425
01:34:51.920 --> 01:35:00.159
independent pre ww F, he had
a huge it was a white it was

1426
01:35:00.199 --> 01:35:02.960
not. It was also like thirty
five years ago. I can't accept him

1427
01:35:02.960 --> 01:35:05.560
being that old. It was.
It seems like not that long ago.

1428
01:35:05.640 --> 01:35:10.159
He was rapping, But I can't
imagine a dude that looks like that rapping.

1429
01:35:10.159 --> 01:35:11.960
But I feel like he was all
I don't know, I felt like

1430
01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:15.319
he was always old. Who does
the best poet man here? I don't

1431
01:35:15.359 --> 01:35:18.239
know. Probably I don't do it, but I do I do a pretty

1432
01:35:18.279 --> 01:35:24.640
good bad Oh yeah, like that
nailed it. Yeah it was I'm not

1433
01:35:24.640 --> 01:35:29.079
even gonna try to get the best
worst what I was looking for Stepan Muslim,

1434
01:35:29.880 --> 01:35:33.000
I did it. Yeah. It
booms all teas and DLC characters for

1435
01:35:33.119 --> 01:35:36.520
Mortal Kombat on Twitter. Yeah,
he was asking people which which guy they'd

1436
01:35:36.560 --> 01:35:43.960
like to see then listening like Rain
and Shannock and chanak uh Robo Smoke was

1437
01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:48.399
one of them. Robots Smoke Hue. That's no, Hue was not one

1438
01:35:48.439 --> 01:35:53.760
of them. There are no there
was like there was like five Hue.

1439
01:35:55.119 --> 01:35:58.600
It seems I hate you. Most
of the people I were in my feed

1440
01:35:58.840 --> 01:36:02.279
that also fallow ed Boone. We're
saying Rain, Yeah, I think Rain's

1441
01:36:02.279 --> 01:36:04.399
the good. I don't know,
do you need another Ninja? Well?

1442
01:36:04.520 --> 01:36:09.239
Rain was weird. When when they
did make Rain playable in like the home

1443
01:36:09.399 --> 01:36:13.479
versions of Ultimate or something like that, it was he was the one that

1444
01:36:13.520 --> 01:36:15.520
had a weird control orb or something
where you'd hit the guy with it and

1445
01:36:15.520 --> 01:36:18.680
then you could move him over towards
you. That just seemed he was a

1446
01:36:18.760 --> 01:36:21.439
very lazy. It seemed like a
character that they were like, well,

1447
01:36:21.520 --> 01:36:24.840
what can we what can we do? What else is there to do.

1448
01:36:25.439 --> 01:36:28.520
Let's do this almost a game breaking
thing. Yeah, so I really just

1449
01:36:28.640 --> 01:36:30.199
hacked in. I guess. I
guess to be fair since the era of

1450
01:36:30.279 --> 01:36:33.359
the palette swap, like they've differentiated, the ninja is a lot better from

1451
01:36:33.359 --> 01:36:35.520
each other, So I guess that
could be cool. And she not just

1452
01:36:35.640 --> 01:36:43.239
kind of morphed without morphing into guys. So it's it's not robots. They've

1453
01:36:43.279 --> 01:36:47.600
got shank sung robots smoke blues.
Yeah, I think I think robots when

1454
01:36:47.640 --> 01:36:51.399
you say smoke these days, or
are we talking robot well, he specifically

1455
01:36:51.399 --> 01:36:56.159
said robot smoke. I think human
smoke is probably in the game, yeah

1456
01:36:56.319 --> 01:37:00.520
or something, so robo Smoke would
be a specifically different character the world,

1457
01:37:00.439 --> 01:37:06.039
I believe only in it was a
trilogy that you could play regular smoke versus

1458
01:37:06.199 --> 01:37:10.279
robot Smoker was no, no,
it was human Smoke was in Ultimate That's

1459
01:37:10.319 --> 01:37:13.600
right, Like you had to hold
weird directions controller to do it, but

1460
01:37:13.720 --> 01:37:16.479
yeah you could do it, and
human smoke fucking savage. Yeah, game

1461
01:37:16.600 --> 01:37:23.159
like yeah, insane. Remember you
get online on the Xbox, it's like

1462
01:37:23.199 --> 01:37:26.800
everyone's just picking human smoke and they
are raw and I don't want to play

1463
01:37:26.840 --> 01:37:30.720
it. Anymore. Also, there
are people that bought that game a long

1464
01:37:30.800 --> 01:37:38.000
time ago, well balanced game raw, they are raw. That game is

1465
01:37:38.000 --> 01:37:41.000
out in like three months, guys. The game is out in April.

1466
01:37:41.199 --> 01:37:44.319
The Mortal Kombat. The Mortal Kombat. There's a lot of games coming out

1467
01:37:44.399 --> 01:37:45.359
in the next three or four months. I don't know if you noticed.

1468
01:37:45.439 --> 01:37:51.039
Wait, which Mortal Kombat. The
the Yeah, Mortal Kombat. The combat

1469
01:37:51.239 --> 01:37:58.920
that that that's short from last year
got picked up. I didn't see that

1470
01:37:58.920 --> 01:38:00.920
stuff with So it's now a web
series. So they are going to continue

1471
01:38:00.960 --> 01:38:03.520
making They're gonna make ten of them
or something as part of a web series.

1472
01:38:03.520 --> 01:38:08.880
It's going to focus on Michael Ji
White as Jack's great good give that

1473
01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:11.720
thing a life, because because last
time they focused on Jack's it went so

1474
01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:15.640
well. I just wondered to what
end, Like are they building up to

1475
01:38:15.720 --> 01:38:17.279
a movie or this thing? It
was just like they realized that thing was

1476
01:38:17.319 --> 01:38:19.479
awesome and people would watch it.
I don't know, or I mean,

1477
01:38:19.920 --> 01:38:25.760
continue getting the Mortal Kombat name in
people's mouths right now, like even if

1478
01:38:25.800 --> 01:38:29.520
it isn't directly connected to how they're
doing the game, Like that's just that's

1479
01:38:29.520 --> 01:38:31.600
helpful. I don't know. What
they should do. They should release updated

1480
01:38:31.640 --> 01:38:35.000
remix of the first three Mortal Kombat
games. That'll never happen. Yeah,

1481
01:38:36.399 --> 01:38:40.800
but but this is great because like, ultimately, I I guess no one

1482
01:38:40.920 --> 01:38:45.119
really wants I don't I don't want
what those Mortal Kombat, what that More

1483
01:38:45.199 --> 01:38:47.720
Combat short was in a video game. I just want more of that in

1484
01:38:47.840 --> 01:38:51.079
that format. Yeah, so yeah, just make another, you know,

1485
01:38:51.199 --> 01:38:56.279
make a string of those things in
a web video format. That'd be great.

1486
01:38:56.319 --> 01:38:59.600
Can web series be profitable into themselves
these days? You released them on

1487
01:38:59.680 --> 01:39:01.159
DVD for the facts, that's true. Yeah, I think that's pretty much

1488
01:39:01.159 --> 01:39:04.279
how the was it. The Guild
hasn't has made it skilled, and the

1489
01:39:04.560 --> 01:39:08.399
doctor horrible whatever? Yeah, yeah, stuff like that. Yeah, you

1490
01:39:08.439 --> 01:39:11.520
could do that just you just put
it out on dec It doesn't necessarily have

1491
01:39:11.600 --> 01:39:14.359
to be in promotion for something else, is what I mean. Yeah,

1492
01:39:14.840 --> 01:39:17.359
this could just be its own thing. Yeah, okay, internet videos.

1493
01:39:17.399 --> 01:39:19.720
I should not expect. I should
not expect a movie at the end of

1494
01:39:19.760 --> 01:39:23.720
this. It's probably not. No, And yeah, yeah I don't know

1495
01:39:23.760 --> 01:39:25.840
that. I wouldn't want to go
see that movie. I wouldn't be surprised

1496
01:39:25.840 --> 01:39:29.119
if if like talks are continuing to
be ongoing about what they're going to do

1497
01:39:29.199 --> 01:39:31.399
with another movie, because they're still
but I think that ship's still so tied

1498
01:39:31.479 --> 01:39:38.319
up in lawsuits with the producers of
the Right the original movies that are assholes

1499
01:39:39.079 --> 01:39:42.359
whatever. So it's probably actually a
good end a round of like, well,

1500
01:39:42.399 --> 01:39:45.960
we're gonna do something into web series
and that was never part of the

1501
01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:49.000
contract before, so you have no
right, no say overwhel stop us stuff.

1502
01:39:49.039 --> 01:39:54.159
So yeah, I forgot all about
that lawsuit and the basis of it.

1503
01:39:54.279 --> 01:39:57.520
What a terrible thing, I know, what a terrible, terrible thing.

1504
01:39:57.720 --> 01:40:01.199
Like the guy didn't even see Annihilation
and he claims to have made it.

1505
01:40:01.439 --> 01:40:06.000
He's claiming that he made more Mortal
Kombat stuff than Midway did, and

1506
01:40:06.119 --> 01:40:12.800
his evidence is Mortal Kombat Annihilation.
Shame on you. Case fucking closed.

1507
01:40:12.920 --> 01:40:21.359
Go home, ask shame on you
please, you're uh you get guys,

1508
01:40:21.760 --> 01:40:25.079
other news you want? You know, night Wolf is working on that game

1509
01:40:25.119 --> 01:40:31.199
with Mantra Manorandi Savage and U sal
Yeah. Really, yeah, there you

1510
01:40:31.279 --> 01:40:35.840
go, there's versus. This is
how we're tying everything together today. Supposed

1511
01:40:35.880 --> 01:40:39.960
to meet him last week. It
didn't happen. I guess I assume he

1512
01:40:40.039 --> 01:40:43.199
was going to be there. Yeah, all right, you talking about new

1513
01:40:43.279 --> 01:40:45.520
releases quick like he'd been Like,
I thought it was dope when you did

1514
01:40:45.560 --> 01:40:48.000
that combo and then the arrow came
out faster when you did it in the

1515
01:40:48.039 --> 01:40:51.920
air. I thought that was sick. So what about this wrestling game a

1516
01:40:51.960 --> 01:40:58.119
little bit a little greater? Lit'll
be playing at two for the PlayStation three,

1517
01:40:58.520 --> 01:41:00.239
Jeff, you got the special collector
Is Edition. Yeah, but that

1518
01:41:00.439 --> 01:41:04.560
I went out and that came with
some book ends for games. Basically they're

1519
01:41:04.560 --> 01:41:08.039
like gam ends. I think it's
what they call them, because that's silly.

1520
01:41:09.439 --> 01:41:15.399
It comes with a tiny, relatively
small little sack. Boy is encased

1521
01:41:15.439 --> 01:41:19.600
in plastic that I have not opened
up yet, suffocating in there. I

1522
01:41:19.720 --> 01:41:24.479
think it is fabricy. Yeah,
and like eleven costumes for the game.

1523
01:41:25.039 --> 01:41:27.159
It seemed like was that a lot
of like a brand new original stuff.

1524
01:41:27.199 --> 01:41:29.000
It seems like that was stuff that
might have been released. Still. Some

1525
01:41:29.119 --> 01:41:30.800
of it is DLC stuff. It's
like muppets, so you get like Gonzo.

1526
01:41:31.319 --> 01:41:34.239
Yeah, I think they from the
Tron pack. Yeah, there are

1527
01:41:34.239 --> 01:41:38.399
a couple that are only in that
pack. I guess Jack and Daxter are

1528
01:41:38.479 --> 01:41:41.800
only in that pack. And these
aren't like there costume not character, right,

1529
01:41:42.319 --> 01:41:44.920
So yeah, they still look sakish. So it's like it's like sack

1530
01:41:44.960 --> 01:41:48.319
boys wearing the skin. Yea,
so it's like sackster. Yeah, fuck

1531
01:41:48.399 --> 01:41:50.960
you, Yeah, that's the right
response. Last time I invite you to

1532
01:41:51.039 --> 01:41:54.920
this podcast, I would by all
means, and I played through the first

1533
01:41:55.920 --> 01:41:59.079
I only play through the first level
of that, and then Justin's level and

1534
01:42:00.680 --> 01:42:06.880
five stars and you love it already. Yeah, basically like that game is

1535
01:42:08.000 --> 01:42:11.840
real good. So I hope,
you know, and pressed that medium Molecule

1536
01:42:11.920 --> 01:42:14.840
was able to kind of bust that
out. Yeah, uh, you know

1537
01:42:14.880 --> 01:42:17.000
a little more than a year.
I'm I'm very excited to see how the

1538
01:42:17.079 --> 01:42:21.199
level of creation tools have changed.
And no, it's been those it was

1539
01:42:21.359 --> 01:42:25.279
na, wasn't it. That was
over two years. Okay, it's been

1540
01:42:25.319 --> 01:42:27.399
a while. Yeah whatever. But
you know, they had a lot of

1541
01:42:27.399 --> 01:42:33.760
assets work already. Yeah yeah,
but like all there's a lot of backwards

1542
01:42:33.800 --> 01:42:35.920
compatible stuff in there, like all
the levels from the first game work.

1543
01:42:35.960 --> 01:42:39.199
But also the first thing it does
is like, do you want to import

1544
01:42:39.239 --> 01:42:41.720
your profile from the first game.
So as soon as I hit that,

1545
01:42:41.840 --> 01:42:44.920
I had my zebra head back on
and all this other stuff like all your

1546
01:42:44.920 --> 01:42:46.960
crazy shit. Yeah great, and
and then you can import all the stickers

1547
01:42:47.000 --> 01:42:50.199
and stuff that you've unlocked. Is
your little house the same patterns. I

1548
01:42:50.439 --> 01:42:54.720
didn't decorate my house, so yes, But I wait, did it store

1549
01:42:54.840 --> 01:42:57.000
like I think it's stored. I
think it's from a local save, so

1550
01:42:57.039 --> 01:42:59.319
I might. I might have just
had a little bit plan at one save

1551
01:42:59.439 --> 01:43:02.399
on that P three. So when
I get home and do it, do

1552
01:43:02.520 --> 01:43:06.319
that process again. How much was
that? It's eighty bucks, which I

1553
01:43:06.840 --> 01:43:12.720
don't know that it's twenty premium you're
getting. I don't know that I would

1554
01:43:12.720 --> 01:43:14.960
recommend that people buy it because the
bok ends don't look all that great.

1555
01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:15.640
And you know, if you want
a sack boy, that's great. If

1556
01:43:15.640 --> 01:43:20.600
you're into the costumes, that's great. But the regular editions that at least

1557
01:43:20.600 --> 01:43:25.560
feels justified. It is a large
box, I like, I don't.

1558
01:43:25.680 --> 01:43:28.520
I don't think you can ever go
into collector's editions saying like that's a good

1559
01:43:28.600 --> 01:43:30.319
value, because it never is right. It's just a matter of like,

1560
01:43:30.640 --> 01:43:34.760
is there enough stuff in here to
potentially justify that price. I felt good

1561
01:43:34.760 --> 01:43:38.960
about buying it this morning when we
went and bought it this morning. Good

1562
01:43:39.000 --> 01:43:43.840
to h mine Jack for a PlayStation
three and Xbox three sixty. It's a

1563
01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:50.319
square Nix mindes psychic gorillas, psychic
gorillas, cyber psychic Oh no, are

1564
01:43:50.359 --> 01:43:53.800
they not even real when they brought
mind jack boy, do they actually show

1565
01:43:53.840 --> 01:43:56.000
you any of the cyber gorillas or
was it all? Yeah, it's in

1566
01:43:56.000 --> 01:44:00.960
the footage, so or maybe I
should say cyborg rillas okay, when you

1567
01:44:02.199 --> 01:44:05.840
like they're like digital Sorry, cyborg
gorillas is more accurately. These are analog

1568
01:44:05.920 --> 01:44:11.119
guerrillas. Okay, yes, good
worry. They're meat gorillas with robotics,

1569
01:44:11.199 --> 01:44:15.920
existing plants, very good plants,
versus zombies for the Nintendo DS. Check

1570
01:44:16.039 --> 01:44:20.199
check that offered another platform. Now
have all platforms. I guess I'll have

1571
01:44:20.239 --> 01:44:25.319
to go get that. You really
don't have to do that. That's not

1572
01:44:25.399 --> 01:44:27.439
a thing that you have to eat. I own it on I own it

1573
01:44:27.560 --> 01:44:30.960
on PC, and I own it. I'm pretty sure I have it on

1574
01:44:30.000 --> 01:44:33.439
my iPhones. It's not yet available
on Windows Phone seven. Yeah, so

1575
01:44:33.840 --> 01:44:38.680
coming soon. But I'm I'm telling
all those people with Windows Phone sevens you

1576
01:44:38.800 --> 01:44:42.279
don't have to keep buying plants versus. The most arrogant, horrible thing about

1577
01:44:42.279 --> 01:44:45.039
Windows Phone seven is that there are
multiple games that have achievements based on you

1578
01:44:45.199 --> 01:44:50.920
having people on your friends lists that
also have a Windows phone seven. I

1579
01:44:50.960 --> 01:44:55.039
don't have any. It's like it's
one of them. Is just straight up

1580
01:44:55.119 --> 01:44:57.520
view the leaderboard when ten of your
friends are on it. I'm like,

1581
01:44:57.600 --> 01:45:00.520
come on, come on, that's
never going to have It's never ever going

1582
01:45:00.600 --> 01:45:04.319
to happen. Oh maybe that'll inspire
you to say to your friends, hey,

1583
01:45:04.399 --> 01:45:10.359
guys, you should get into only
befriend people that have Windows. I'm

1584
01:45:10.399 --> 01:45:13.000
second clear out my friends list and
I'm seeking out so you know, like

1585
01:45:13.000 --> 01:45:16.119
the people that are achievement crazy.
Yeah for for that stuff have been doing

1586
01:45:16.279 --> 01:45:21.319
exactly that. Yeah, it's you
see somebody hit over five five hundred thousand

1587
01:45:21.319 --> 01:45:25.720
points? Is that Stallion Dude,
he's the guy that might be He's the

1588
01:45:25.760 --> 01:45:28.319
guy that's been in the lead for
the Yeah, I think it was the

1589
01:45:28.680 --> 01:45:30.439
guy that is on the Quest for
a million? Is that he's got like

1590
01:45:30.479 --> 01:45:34.520
a million score dot com? You
know some blog? Is there even space

1591
01:45:34.600 --> 01:45:36.960
on the gamer card for that?
Then he digits the only one way to

1592
01:45:38.000 --> 01:45:42.960
find out. I suspect he'll be
the one to hit it unless he completely

1593
01:45:43.039 --> 01:45:47.279
loses his mind. And that's possible. That has to be such a unless

1594
01:45:47.279 --> 01:45:50.199
you count people that are hacking their
scores, in which case I've seen scores

1595
01:45:50.239 --> 01:45:54.439
over eight hundred thousand. That's already. Yeah, so that's I mean,

1596
01:45:54.439 --> 01:45:57.079
those people will get banned eventually,
right, Yeah, But they're all doing

1597
01:45:57.119 --> 01:46:00.760
it from forty eight hour gold accounts
or sometimes silver account so it kind of

1598
01:46:00.800 --> 01:46:02.479
doesn't matter. Well, but they're
all transient then at least, like none

1599
01:46:02.479 --> 01:46:04.560
of them are ever going to hang
out. The guy who has the million

1600
01:46:04.600 --> 01:46:10.119
will last. They're they're messing up
leaderboards on community sites basically is the extent

1601
01:46:10.239 --> 01:46:14.279
of their their damage, I think. But Mass Effect too for the PlayStation

1602
01:46:14.359 --> 01:46:17.039
three, I've played some of that. I have not seen the new comic

1603
01:46:17.359 --> 01:46:20.960
bit yet. Yeah, I want
to see that. That sounds likes already

1604
01:46:20.960 --> 01:46:25.159
played it. That sounds like the
interesting parts one new thing, and that's

1605
01:46:25.159 --> 01:46:30.279
supposed to, you know, basically
recreate all the Mass Effect one stuff basically

1606
01:46:30.439 --> 01:46:33.159
in like a minute, in like
fifteen minutes, I think. But yeah,

1607
01:46:34.840 --> 01:46:36.920
I played the first hour and a
half of the game. It seems

1608
01:46:39.279 --> 01:46:42.079
Hey, do you like Mass Effect
too? I did like Massive pretty good.

1609
01:46:42.680 --> 01:46:45.199
It is great on the PlayStation three
as well. From what I've seen

1610
01:46:45.319 --> 01:46:48.600
so far. Do you know,
if I have to imagine it is this

1611
01:46:48.680 --> 01:46:51.920
way, all the DLC is just
on the disc and like it's just integrated

1612
01:46:51.920 --> 01:46:57.119
in the game. The servers network
is still there and it still requires that

1613
01:46:57.199 --> 01:47:00.880
code for access to servers network stuff. But as far as like Overlord,

1614
01:47:01.119 --> 01:47:04.159
Shadow, Overlord, Kassume, and
Shadow Broker are all on the disk,

1615
01:47:04.359 --> 01:47:06.760
those are the three you get.
Those are the three they're advertising. So

1616
01:47:08.279 --> 01:47:11.600
there's still like free armor up for
download on the PlayStation network, and all

1617
01:47:11.680 --> 01:47:16.079
of the additional costume packs and stuff
still cost money right on PlayStation network for

1618
01:47:16.560 --> 01:47:19.399
something like Overlord or Kassume. Is
it Fallout style? Where as soon as

1619
01:47:19.439 --> 01:47:23.319
you get to the point where you
can pick up missions, that is where

1620
01:47:23.319 --> 01:47:26.039
I stopped. I basically stopped when
I got on the bridge of the ship

1621
01:47:26.560 --> 01:47:29.399
and it says, hey, you
should talk to this kassuming chick weird.

1622
01:47:30.680 --> 01:47:32.800
Same for for Shadow Broker. The
other two did not pop up. I

1623
01:47:32.840 --> 01:47:35.960
think you probably have to go talk
to Lara first. For Shadow Broker pops,

1624
01:47:36.920 --> 01:47:43.000
and I don't know when when Overlord
would pop. I mean imagine that's

1625
01:47:43.000 --> 01:47:45.760
probably pretty much the same behavior you'd
get if you if you've download all that

1626
01:47:45.760 --> 01:47:48.079
stuff and started a new game on
Yeah, like, playing Fallout three for

1627
01:47:48.119 --> 01:47:50.880
the first time with all of the
DLC installed is so weird. Yeah,

1628
01:47:50.880 --> 01:47:55.600
because the second you step out of
the vault, literally it's literally one radio

1629
01:47:55.640 --> 01:47:58.760
signals, one message after another after
another. Actually, I downloaded the Game

1630
01:47:58.760 --> 01:48:01.079
of the Year version of Oblivion for
Steam started up a new thing of that.

1631
01:48:01.880 --> 01:48:05.359
Fucking crazy like how much stuff they
added there are like it must be

1632
01:48:05.439 --> 01:48:09.039
like a dozen things. Actually it
was a save. It was a save

1633
01:48:09.119 --> 01:48:12.199
I had from when I have the
PC version. Originally I loaded it and

1634
01:48:12.279 --> 01:48:14.079
it was just, yeah, it
was like one thing after another, like

1635
01:48:14.159 --> 01:48:16.520
twelve times, like you should go
to this tower and oh, this thing

1636
01:48:16.600 --> 01:48:19.439
needs doing, and it's just like, dude, too much, so much

1637
01:48:19.520 --> 01:48:23.119
stuff, too much, like parcel
that stuff out and along with the story

1638
01:48:23.279 --> 01:48:27.880
or something. Yeah, it seems
like they do do some of that,

1639
01:48:27.880 --> 01:48:30.079
but yeah, I consume. He
definitely says, hey, as soon as

1640
01:48:30.319 --> 01:48:34.000
as soon as that stuff starts,
Well, I feel like I'd kind of

1641
01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:39.439
prefer that to them holding it back, especially if it was like I just

1642
01:48:39.560 --> 01:48:43.199
want to do this thing and if
and if it doesn't have any relevance to

1643
01:48:43.600 --> 01:48:45.479
kind of the flow of the overall
game. But it's like, well,

1644
01:48:45.520 --> 01:48:46.960
just let me go and choose to
do this right now, and I can

1645
01:48:47.039 --> 01:48:50.479
choose to the other thing later and
paid for it. Let me do it.

1646
01:48:50.600 --> 01:48:57.479
Sure. Spare Parts is available this
week on Xbox Labricade, and PlayStation

1647
01:48:57.600 --> 01:49:03.560
Network. That's tens or or ten
bucks? You mean ten bucks or nine

1648
01:49:03.760 --> 01:49:11.000
ninety nine? I guess I mean
ninety nine or nine ninety nine. I

1649
01:49:11.119 --> 01:49:15.079
believe it's nine eight hundred points,
is it? Oh? Yeah, I

1650
01:49:15.079 --> 01:49:16.680
guess they do say that. Don't
think? Yeah? Yeah, Hm,

1651
01:49:17.319 --> 01:49:21.479
we've a tree achieved true pricing parody. Great, Finally, I guess we've

1652
01:49:21.560 --> 01:49:25.199
kind of had it. It's just
it's easier to say it that way.

1653
01:49:25.279 --> 01:49:29.920
Hey, it's ten bucks. I
don't know much about this game, So

1654
01:49:30.079 --> 01:49:33.159
describe to me this world you live
in in which inaccuracy is better than accuracy.

1655
01:49:35.439 --> 01:49:40.199
The one word I don't care so
much about a penny. Simon Pegg

1656
01:49:40.319 --> 01:49:45.439
does voice work in this game?
Cooperative robot puzzle solving made by EA?

1657
01:49:46.079 --> 01:49:53.880
Did that fall out of game dev
story copoitive Robots? It would have gotten

1658
01:49:54.279 --> 01:50:00.439
uh five stars if it had Game
of the Year indeed, see here.

1659
01:50:01.000 --> 01:50:10.439
Yeah, I think that's kind of
it's kind of it's kind of what's coming

1660
01:50:10.479 --> 01:50:14.560
out for Nintendo platforms. I can
tell you stuff, Why don't you tell

1661
01:50:14.560 --> 01:50:18.560
me in great detail? I'm looking
forward to this. No, I'm with

1662
01:50:18.680 --> 01:50:24.720
him. I get angry messages from
people, yeah, saying how did you

1663
01:50:24.840 --> 01:50:28.239
let these fuckers remove it from the
show? Believing for a week, and

1664
01:50:28.279 --> 01:50:31.000
then I realized, wait a minute, I totally am so start reading these.

1665
01:50:31.439 --> 01:50:34.000
I don't have the I don't have
the paperwork, sorry this week,

1666
01:50:38.199 --> 01:50:41.159
but I want you to have these
for me when the podcast starts them.

1667
01:50:41.239 --> 01:50:43.319
It's right here. Great, okay
if you can get me that. So

1668
01:50:44.039 --> 01:50:47.079
how are we doing those those reports? That's here dot Clock the Toasted Sandwich

1669
01:50:47.119 --> 01:50:53.000
of Time or bannocks Bit trip Beat. Oh wait, that's just the demo

1670
01:50:53.119 --> 01:50:57.439
version of that. Those first two
games sound like bangers. They sound like

1671
01:50:57.520 --> 01:50:59.600
the sort of things we should be
reading. Let me put it to you

1672
01:50:59.720 --> 01:51:01.399
this way. If you didn't read
them, we could get a real sandwich

1673
01:51:01.479 --> 01:51:05.359
faster. Now, how do you
see it? Kind of has you there?

1674
01:51:05.560 --> 01:51:11.880
DSi Wear Glory Day's Tactical Defense and
Animal Boxing and the seller Animal Boxing

1675
01:51:12.039 --> 01:51:20.439
and Alien Puzzle Adventure. All right, emails Alien Puzzle Adventures nothing for you

1676
01:51:20.600 --> 01:51:25.079
bomb the name you know what the
name is good enough from Hell's heart,

1677
01:51:25.199 --> 01:51:30.439
Ryan Davis static, I'm saying we're
at an hour fifty. If we don't

1678
01:51:30.479 --> 01:51:33.920
want two hour and thirty minute podcasts
every single week, we cut this.

1679
01:51:34.199 --> 01:51:42.039
Who says that you know one except
Bryan Davis. The reality of animal boxing

1680
01:51:42.119 --> 01:51:45.640
can never live up to what you
imagine in your mind. So just let

1681
01:51:45.720 --> 01:51:48.279
it go. Maybe I'll start reading
these a week behind, but instead I'll

1682
01:51:48.319 --> 01:51:51.479
just take the titles and write my
own descriptions of what I think the games

1683
01:51:51.479 --> 01:51:58.000
are. You start doing your own, separate, separate podcasts of the DSi

1684
01:51:58.119 --> 01:52:05.520
wear, we wear Reading a Nintendo
download minute? Indeed, all right,

1685
01:52:06.399 --> 01:52:12.920
first email comes in from Madeline Henry
and Bemediate specialized and insane. Would that

1686
01:52:13.039 --> 01:52:16.119
be of just like, here's a
podcast in which someone tells you what is

1687
01:52:16.199 --> 01:52:20.600
out for download on Nintendo platforms.
After that they've already been posted, after

1688
01:52:20.640 --> 01:52:24.720
they've already been posted a text form. But if you don't like to read

1689
01:52:25.880 --> 01:52:29.079
or posted and even posted on the
system, you could just go to the

1690
01:52:29.159 --> 01:52:31.239
system and look at it and say, here's what they are. I actually

1691
01:52:31.279 --> 01:52:35.039
one of the one of the people
that wrote in uh and and said that

1692
01:52:35.079 --> 01:52:40.399
they missed this feature, said it
was way it was actually useful because the

1693
01:52:40.520 --> 01:52:45.359
stores are so poorly designed. True, the stores are stores are horribly laid

1694
01:52:45.399 --> 01:52:47.720
out. But I think the thing
that we've realized over the year plus of

1695
01:52:47.840 --> 01:52:53.840
doing this is that most of the
content is complete garbage. I could have

1696
01:52:53.920 --> 01:52:57.760
told you that a year ago when
we have started to but about the two

1697
01:52:57.840 --> 01:53:01.279
cave stories a year and yeah,
that's harm of that having to sift through.

1698
01:53:01.840 --> 01:53:04.800
No, No, that's I I
agree with you in spirit that that.

1699
01:53:05.319 --> 01:53:12.000
Yes, I mean, the time
to move on is upon us.

1700
01:53:13.159 --> 01:53:15.319
We just need to replace it with
something. It's it's just the overhead is

1701
01:53:15.359 --> 01:53:19.479
the issue. If we could pluck
out good ones and not read them all,

1702
01:53:19.720 --> 01:53:24.960
there are no good ones. That's
a sad reality to me, you

1703
01:53:25.039 --> 01:53:29.439
know, entertaining ones. Brad hit
me with an emails emails, thank you,

1704
01:53:29.520 --> 01:53:33.920
sir. Podcast Giant bomb dot Com. Madeline Henrymigi, Minnesota as Miss

1705
01:53:34.039 --> 01:53:38.000
pac Man is regarded by many a
superior to pac Man, and misplosion Man

1706
01:53:38.039 --> 01:53:41.560
will likely be better than splosion Man. Adding Miss to any video games seems

1707
01:53:41.560 --> 01:53:44.439
to enhance it significantly. In my
opinion, this is an important revelation that

1708
01:53:44.479 --> 01:53:46.960
hasn't been taken advantage of yet.
I'll be shopping this concept around to numerous

1709
01:53:46.960 --> 01:53:48.840
game publishers, but until I hear
back in them, I ask you,

1710
01:53:48.960 --> 01:53:56.279
what games do you suspect would most
be enhanced by a miss iteration? Miss

1711
01:53:56.439 --> 01:54:02.479
DC Universe Online, Miss Hale,
Miss Gears of War, Ladies, Ladies,

1712
01:54:02.560 --> 01:54:10.079
Halo brat shoemakers, putt put a
little bow on Dom's head, Miss

1713
01:54:10.159 --> 01:54:19.159
Gears of War. That's no,
you mean like missus Bayonetta game. Yeah,

1714
01:54:19.319 --> 01:54:24.880
Miss miss Gucci's Bayonetta. Miss rasm
Is, somebody get miss on the

1715
01:54:24.880 --> 01:54:28.600
phone. I don't know. I
think miss Miss pac Man would be pretty

1716
01:54:28.640 --> 01:54:33.039
good. It's pretty good. It's
dude twice as many mazes. That dude

1717
01:54:33.039 --> 01:54:39.319
with bow in his hair? Is
that it? I don't know. It's

1718
01:54:39.359 --> 01:54:42.840
it's Miss pac Man, but with
stubble. It's a drag queen version of

1719
01:54:43.000 --> 01:54:45.920
Miss pac Man. It's not like
a good drag queen. It's like one

1720
01:54:45.960 --> 01:54:49.199
of those kind of streetwalky drag queens. Those are the good drag queens.

1721
01:54:49.359 --> 01:54:53.680
Trysting from Newmarket, Ontario. Hey
guys, I hit a deer while listening

1722
01:54:53.760 --> 01:54:56.439
to last week's BombCast just thought you
should know. Keep up the good work.

1723
01:54:57.119 --> 01:55:00.399
You keep up the good works.
Did he kill it? I want

1724
01:55:00.479 --> 01:55:03.239
more information, Well, then you
should hit I'll give you Tristan's email and

1725
01:55:03.279 --> 01:55:05.359
you can ask him now. He
should just right in next week and give

1726
01:55:05.399 --> 01:55:11.239
us more details. And also the
car. It's not always true. It's

1727
01:55:11.239 --> 01:55:14.520
not always true. You don't always
I hit a deer with a friend in

1728
01:55:14.560 --> 01:55:16.920
a pickup truck once and it did
not die. No. Usually, No,

1729
01:55:17.039 --> 01:55:20.279
here's here's the messed up thing.
So we hit it and we thought

1730
01:55:20.319 --> 01:55:24.159
it was dead because it was like
it was It had fallen in the street

1731
01:55:24.199 --> 01:55:26.560
and it looked like it was dead, but it was like kind of breathing.

1732
01:55:26.720 --> 01:55:29.279
So my friend busted out his hunting
knife and was going to go cut

1733
01:55:29.359 --> 01:55:32.479
its throat, and then it popped
up and ran away into the field and

1734
01:55:32.560 --> 01:55:39.359
we were like, oh, okay, we should go hunting. Jamie in

1735
01:55:39.439 --> 01:55:42.920
the UK Hey bomb cast last Friday. I was the one quick and or

1736
01:55:43.000 --> 01:55:46.199
lucky enough to get to play Keija
with you guys live in the background of

1737
01:55:46.359 --> 01:55:50.239
your show. I am from the
UK and so playing from overseas as well.

1738
01:55:50.680 --> 01:55:58.000
Uh. I don't know if this
flag yeah, but the experience of

1739
01:55:58.119 --> 01:56:00.439
playing a game on a screen with
a phone as the controller got me thinking,

1740
01:56:00.479 --> 01:56:03.880
do you guys think there's any room
or potential for this sort of set

1741
01:56:03.960 --> 01:56:06.920
up to expand? Do you think
someone could create a bigger game for this

1742
01:56:08.000 --> 01:56:12.279
format of using the phone as the
controller remotely, maybe something that's not browser

1743
01:56:12.399 --> 01:56:15.279
based but application based, to say
a Steam downloadable game or some such.

1744
01:56:16.840 --> 01:56:19.520
Yeah, I think there is potential
for for that. You know, when

1745
01:56:19.520 --> 01:56:24.319
you when you remove the screen as
a display device and turn it into strictly

1746
01:56:24.319 --> 01:56:28.239
a controller. You know it,
So let's like flying that helicopter, flying

1747
01:56:28.279 --> 01:56:31.640
the ar drone. The lack of
tactile feedback can be an issue. Yeah,

1748
01:56:32.079 --> 01:56:34.800
but but what's interesting is that you
can use like all of the tilts

1749
01:56:36.279 --> 01:56:40.000
point, there's a lot of other
feedback that still works. I mean.

1750
01:56:40.079 --> 01:56:42.960
The hard part about trying to make
something I think like significant with this is

1751
01:56:43.000 --> 01:56:45.479
that you still have a pretty small, uh well not not small, but

1752
01:56:45.600 --> 01:56:50.960
non standard install base. For like, if you're gonna make the you know,

1753
01:56:51.119 --> 01:56:56.319
the the iPhone or whatever it is
integral enough to the experience, then

1754
01:56:56.439 --> 01:57:00.800
you need your players to have that, which you know, it's not necessarily

1755
01:57:00.439 --> 01:57:02.680
you expect someone to have a mouse
and keyboard on a mouse on on a

1756
01:57:02.760 --> 01:57:04.800
PC. You expect someone to have
a you know, dual shock on a

1757
01:57:04.840 --> 01:57:09.680
p S three, like the expectation
of and you have an iPhone and you're

1758
01:57:09.720 --> 01:57:13.039
gonna play this PC game with it, Like I think you have to kind

1759
01:57:13.039 --> 01:57:15.039
of aim low. That's kind of
specific. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1760
01:57:15.119 --> 01:57:17.560
not saying that not a lot of
people have PCs and iPhones, but it

1761
01:57:17.640 --> 01:57:23.720
is. It is a specific crossover. But Jeff, you seem to enjoy

1762
01:57:23.960 --> 01:57:27.680
at least some of the promise of
what keija. Yeah, it's it's neat,

1763
01:57:28.319 --> 01:57:30.680
but that's that's kind of all it
is. It's not a good game,

1764
01:57:30.720 --> 01:57:33.119
but they they, I guess they
they say they are expanding on it

1765
01:57:33.359 --> 01:57:36.399
and maybe they'll get, you know, some additional stuff in there. But

1766
01:57:36.520 --> 01:57:42.760
I like its style and I thought
of control surprising it well for something that's

1767
01:57:42.800 --> 01:57:46.119
like transmitting over a network and that
sort of stuff. I have been discovering

1768
01:57:46.159 --> 01:57:51.880
the wild world of using my iPhone
to control my laptop. That's to what

1769
01:57:53.079 --> 01:57:55.520
end, uh, If you were
to say, hook your laptop up to

1770
01:57:55.520 --> 01:58:00.680
your TV to watch like YouTube stuff, you use the iPhone to control that.

1771
01:58:01.039 --> 01:58:03.920
There's actually like half a dozen different
apps for the iPhone that let it

1772
01:58:04.000 --> 01:58:09.399
act as a touchpad for a MacBook. It's really weird. But that's where

1773
01:58:09.439 --> 01:58:12.760
my issue with the lack of feedback
comes from. Because if you're looking at

1774
01:58:12.760 --> 01:58:15.880
one screen and using another screen,
stroll it and there's like areas of the

1775
01:58:16.079 --> 01:58:18.640
touch pad that are buttons and stuff
like, you hit all kinds of crazy

1776
01:58:18.680 --> 01:58:24.319
stuff. You mean, it's it's
what makes Keijas specifically like a good use

1777
01:58:24.359 --> 01:58:29.479
of that because there's just two big
buttons and if there's tilts until but but

1778
01:58:29.560 --> 01:58:30.960
yeah, but the fact that it's
like basically, hit the left side of

1779
01:58:30.960 --> 01:58:32.680
the screen, you're gonna hit the
button. Hit the right side of the

1780
01:58:32.680 --> 01:58:34.479
screen, you're gonna hit the button. I think if I was making a

1781
01:58:34.760 --> 01:58:39.119
like a mouse like something that duplicates
the functionality of a mouse on an iPhone,

1782
01:58:39.159 --> 01:58:41.680
I would make it tilt and just
the screen. Is that your two

1783
01:58:41.760 --> 01:58:46.399
mouse buttons? That's not a bad
idea. Yeah, yeah, something like

1784
01:58:46.479 --> 01:58:51.479
that. Jakeson in the Professor Layton
title Generator. Have you have you seen

1785
01:58:51.600 --> 01:58:55.439
that? It's pretty good? Yeah? I saw you playing with it.

1786
01:58:55.479 --> 01:59:00.520
We look at last week a Professor
Layton in the Socially Awkward Tea Party Professor

1787
01:59:00.640 --> 01:59:04.840
Layton and the full hearty end of
the World. That's that's actually yeah,

1788
01:59:04.960 --> 01:59:08.319
some of these are good parodies.
Some of these are just just good.

1789
01:59:09.000 --> 01:59:15.399
Professor Layton and the very tasteful wet
Nurse. When it comes to a wet

1790
01:59:15.520 --> 01:59:19.399
nurse, I'm not looking for taste, I know, well, not tastefull.

1791
01:59:20.520 --> 01:59:30.079
Professor Layton and the recently deceased muppet. Professor Layton and the superfluous expansion

1792
01:59:30.159 --> 01:59:36.079
Pack. All right, it makes
me laugh. Professor Layton and the lame

1793
01:59:36.359 --> 01:59:45.319
green Fluid. Professor Layton and the
seriously freaking depressing Decathlon prof These don't sound

1794
01:59:45.359 --> 01:59:48.319
like Professor Layton game titles anymore.
And the Bodacious Children. All right,

1795
01:59:49.000 --> 01:59:53.920
back on board. I would see
that band. So, Jake, I

1796
01:59:53.960 --> 01:59:58.119
think we saw this last week,
but thanks for reminding us. It's pretty

1797
01:59:58.159 --> 02:00:00.119
good. Oh us here, Luke, want to know about start Trik online.

1798
02:00:01.039 --> 02:00:08.359
Nope, fucking Kurt Larson got back
to us from Information Society. Yeah,

1799
02:00:08.640 --> 02:00:11.680
so we we're talking. We talked
to a whole bunch about Information Society

1800
02:00:11.840 --> 02:00:15.159
on the podcast last week, and
then I guess he works at Nihilistic now

1801
02:00:15.640 --> 02:00:18.520
up in Marin formally worked at Chrisma
dynamics as we've mentioned, and I guess

1802
02:00:18.520 --> 02:00:21.720
one of his co workers sent him
the podcast and then emailed us. So

1803
02:00:21.760 --> 02:00:28.920
I guess he did a solo album
kind of after information Society stopped. And

1804
02:00:29.359 --> 02:00:30.359
so this is this is the email
from Kurt. Im was gonna read this

1805
02:00:30.920 --> 02:00:34.199
directly. I did a much cooler
modem track on the next album. Don't

1806
02:00:34.199 --> 02:00:39.920
be afraid that message started. That
message stated that the tenth song on the

1807
02:00:40.039 --> 02:00:45.119
album was hidden around the Internet.
I rarred the wave file into sixteen chunks

1808
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and put one chunk on each of
sixteen free dot us domains I registered.

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On each site was a link to
the next site, a chunk of the

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rare, and a clue to the
password to the next site. The clues

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were stupid questions like what was the
population of such and such town in nineteen

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ninety and to send me an essay
describing how and why the world is different

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now from five hundred years ago,
and so on. I was surprised by

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how many people actually did it and
got the song. Once people got the

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song, the final message gave the
finder permission to copy and even sell the

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song as much as they wanted,
which I still there's still still something great

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and cybercore about the mode of message. Yeah, but this but that's also

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also that is a terrific follow up. Yeah yeah, awesome, ridiculous Internet

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shenanigans out there. So thanks Kurt
Larson, thanks for writing in, and

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also thanks for that song Pure Energy. Did you did you ever see that

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VH one show where they were trying
to bands reunited or whatever. I remember

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when they were doing that. Did
they do that? They did different information

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side and he was the one who
didn't want to do it. They went

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to him and he was like,
Nope, it doesn't really want to do

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it. It was at the end
of that second. That was the end

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of that segment. It was the
end of episode. I was like,

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no, weird, noh, yeah, you know that they would just odd

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02:01:58.039 --> 02:02:00.319
to me that they would air that
just you think that the know, there's

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there's like the failure episodes were arguably
better than the reunion episodes because there was

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usually some sort of hot drama going
around those guys that are just like,

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Nope, don't want to do this
because I hate everyone. H Kyle from

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Baton Rouge, which he probably did
all the work anyway. Yeah, uh,

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02:02:15.920 --> 02:02:18.119
Kyle from Baton rouge. Do you
think that whenever mister Perfect swatted his

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02:02:18.199 --> 02:02:21.000
gun with his hand into the crowd, it sometimes landed in the mouth of

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a screaming wrestling fan. I understood
half of that. Do you think mister

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02:02:30.279 --> 02:02:36.439
perfects gum ended up in someone's mouth
when he would sat I've never really stopped

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02:02:36.439 --> 02:02:39.640
to think about where'd that go?
Where's it go? Where's the gum go?

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What do you think lands someone's hair? Yeah, it's gotta be in

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02:02:42.319 --> 02:02:45.840
the hair. It's bounce off le
I mean, is he hitting it hard

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02:02:45.920 --> 02:02:49.359
enough for it to reach the crowd? Like? That's the thing. It

1841
02:02:49.399 --> 02:02:53.800
seems like he is. H Here's
here's my thing. So here's my question.

1842
02:02:53.880 --> 02:02:59.039
What's worth more on eBay? The
myriad shitty sunglasses that that Brett Hart

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02:02:59.119 --> 02:03:00.840
gave out to kids that are probably
you know, some people are still holding

1844
02:03:00.840 --> 02:03:06.039
onto or that gum because that gum
has his DNA on it. You could

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02:03:06.079 --> 02:03:13.239
clone mister Perfect using that DNA.
That's man spent or step aside. Yeah,

1846
02:03:13.359 --> 02:03:15.119
I guess an army of perfect human
beings, dude, I know,

1847
02:03:15.640 --> 02:03:20.479
I guess their way into the White
House. I guess technically easy doing a

1848
02:03:20.520 --> 02:03:27.520
lot of drugs in between technically easier
to confirm that it was his gum than

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02:03:27.640 --> 02:03:30.880
to confirm the sunglasses thing. Although
that's assuming that you have access to mister

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02:03:30.000 --> 02:03:34.000
Perfect's DNA. For I would guess
there's some red Heart's DNA would end up

1851
02:03:34.039 --> 02:03:44.840
on those glasses. So what's what
about John Morrison's sunglasses that he does now

1852
02:03:45.119 --> 02:03:49.880
he gives those out of kids or
Raymisterio masks or something, or or Raymisterio

1853
02:03:49.960 --> 02:03:54.119
headbutting kids in the crowd. I
don't really want to talk about John Morrison,

1854
02:03:54.720 --> 02:03:59.000
yeah, or current modern day Raymisterio
very much either. What that is

1855
02:04:00.399 --> 02:04:03.159
John Morrison is like Jim Morrison,
but a wrestler. Really, that's a

1856
02:04:03.199 --> 02:04:05.520
ship that's kind of a stick.
Yeah, he's sort of they've kind of

1857
02:04:05.600 --> 02:04:10.359
moved away from that, but yeah, he was very psychedelic early. I'll

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02:04:10.399 --> 02:04:13.920
talk about wrestling, and we're not
gonna talk about emails anymore either, because

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02:04:13.960 --> 02:04:15.680
we're done. We're done with emails. Okay, thanks everyone who wrote in,

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let's get in. That email address
is BombCast at giant bomb dot com.

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02:04:19.760 --> 02:04:25.760
Tell me about Animal Puzzle Adventure.
Which one was it? Which one

1862
02:04:25.800 --> 02:04:30.600
did you want? Animal Puzzle Adventure
thought it was Animal Boxing there's Animal Boxing,

1863
02:04:30.640 --> 02:04:32.680
and then there was what was the
other one? There's Alien Puzzle Adventure,

1864
02:04:33.039 --> 02:04:36.680
there's Animal Everything and Animal Boxing.
Tell me about Alien Puzzle Event right

1865
02:04:36.720 --> 02:04:42.039
before we go. We're gonna close
it out here. Alien Puzzle Adventure from

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02:04:42.279 --> 02:04:49.600
Mastertronic one player DSi points description.
Alien Puzzle Adventure is a fast paced,

1867
02:04:49.720 --> 02:04:55.920
colorful, and cartoonish puzzle game that
combines match three gameplay with a humorous and

1868
02:04:56.159 --> 02:05:00.039
quirky storyline. The players sets out
to save the world from a mysterious this

1869
02:05:00.159 --> 02:05:04.880
chemical attack. Armed with Professor Weinstein's
pseudo quark generator gun, the player most

1870
02:05:04.920 --> 02:05:10.880
neutralized packs of different colored quarks over
the course of thirty five stages by matching

1871
02:05:10.960 --> 02:05:14.359
three quarks of the same color.
Can you help stem the tide and save

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02:05:14.439 --> 02:05:17.119
the world? Your adventure starts today. It's fucking match three game. Are

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02:05:17.119 --> 02:05:19.920
you happy now? Tell me about
Professor Weinstein. That's gonna do it.

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02:05:19.960 --> 02:05:25.880
For this week's episode, Chemical Attack
the Giant Bodcast, Alexavar, thank you

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02:05:26.000 --> 02:05:30.640
for sitting in with us this week. Enjoy the Behind the Screen Door podcast,

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02:05:30.960 --> 02:05:33.239
which I'm doing immediately following. You're
just gonna swap seats to me and

1877
02:05:33.279 --> 02:05:36.359
you're gonna come and make that podcast
happen. So say hi, HORRII for

1878
02:05:36.479 --> 02:05:42.119
me. Oh, I will thank
you for having me congratulate Norman on his

1879
02:05:42.319 --> 02:05:45.239
victorious win in the Box Office Challenge
this past weekend. Now, I don't

1880
02:05:45.239 --> 02:05:47.640
think i'll be doing that, all
right, I'll do that then. But

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02:05:47.680 --> 02:05:50.960
that's it for this week's John Podcast. Thanks for listening, and we're back

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next week.