1 00:00:16,879 --> 00:00:20,039 Welcome back everyone to a new episode of You're Wrong with Molly Hemingway and David 2 00:00:20,039 --> 00:00:22,879 Harsani. Just a reminder, if you'd like to email the show, please 3 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:28,280 do so at radio at the Federalist dot com. We enjoy hearing from everyone. 4 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,120 How are you, Molly, I'm great. I agree. We love 5 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,679 hearing from everyone. We've had some really thoughtful emails in the last couple of 6 00:00:34,719 --> 00:00:39,840 weeks, but also sign up to receive the Federalist, to support the Federalist, 7 00:00:40,119 --> 00:00:44,039 to help support our operations. All of that is very much appreciated and 8 00:00:44,079 --> 00:00:50,240 we love having you in this partnership. Anyway, I'm good. Good. 9 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,759 Did you enjoy Transgender Day of Visibility the other day? Oh? And I 10 00:00:54,799 --> 00:00:58,320 mean that was one of those issues where it broke through to people who normally 11 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:03,320 don't talk politics with me. Were very upset that the Biden White House issued 12 00:01:03,359 --> 00:01:11,799 a proclamation to mark Resurrection Sunday as the Day of transgender Visibility. Yeah, 13 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,599 I made it big. All to do about it. The New York Times 14 00:01:15,599 --> 00:01:21,719 today had one of those Republicans ounce or sees on columns or lash out columns. 15 00:01:22,079 --> 00:01:26,120 What made me laugh is that they framed it that Transgender Day of Visibility, 16 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,400 not Transgender Day of Awareness. It's a different day. I've been corrected. 17 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,959 Happened to fall on Easter, as if you know, traditionally Transgender Day 18 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:42,200 of Visibility falls on around this time. No, I believe that Joe Biden's 19 00:01:42,239 --> 00:01:47,480 on Good Friday signed the proclamation. I believe right making that the day. 20 00:01:47,519 --> 00:01:49,560 He could have made it next week, he could have made it next month, 21 00:01:49,599 --> 00:01:53,799 he could have made it whenever he felt like. There's an argument that 22 00:01:53,079 --> 00:02:00,920 any day of this, for this very deeply religious holiday by which I mean 23 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:06,719 like our major religion right now, seems to be about rejection of nature, 24 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,800 and so making this like a really big important holiday on any day is actually 25 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,439 inappropriate. It's not something that should be a holiday. There is sure. 26 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:20,639 Okay, so it falls on March thirty first every year, or it's held 27 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,520 on that day every date every year, and this year it's Easter, and 28 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:29,840 next year it might be on Idohl fodder. But maybe, don't, you 29 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,319 know, maybe show some prudence, even if you accept this radical gender ideology 30 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,520 and all the problems associated with it, which is bad enough, like show 31 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:43,919 some prudence about whether this day that Christians have celebrated for two thousand years and 32 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,479 is not a surprise to anyone, and is our holiest and most important day 33 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:53,719 around which our entire religion is based. Maybe show some respect for the Oh, 34 00:02:53,759 --> 00:02:57,840 I don't know tens of millions or hundreds of millions of Christians you have 35 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,520 in the country. Yeah, I'm not a Christian, but I know that 36 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,479 Easter is the big one. That's the day that actually makes it a separate 37 00:03:04,759 --> 00:03:07,759 religion. It is the core, is the whole idea of it rests on 38 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:13,159 that day, and you should go out of your way to not have stupid 39 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,960 identity politics and trud on that day. I don't and I'm not even obviously 40 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:22,919 I'm not a Christian, but I am just so sick of the cowardice I 41 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:27,039 see in the Christian community. Frankly, like the Catholic Church, for instance, 42 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,479 this is a nominally Catholic president who is constantly being referred to as a 43 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:37,319 devout Catholic. One Archbishop I forgot where said that he was like a cafeteria 44 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:42,560 Catholic. No, he's much worse than that. He is perpetuating ideas that 45 00:03:42,599 --> 00:03:45,680 are anti Catholic. And you would think that the Pope, instead of chiming 46 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,639 in on what's going on in Gaza or whatever that you know he's talking about 47 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:52,560 these days, would say the president is wrong. He's wrong to be pro 48 00:03:52,639 --> 00:03:57,520 abortion, not just abortion, but radical till crowning abortion. And he is 49 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,840 a radical to do what he's doing now. But yet it's not just Catholics. 50 00:04:00,879 --> 00:04:03,879 I only mention Catholics because Joe Biden is you know, a Catholic. 51 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:09,159 But they're the ones who need to stand up here, not me or people 52 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,719 like me. The do you know a lot of people think Pope Francis is 53 00:04:14,039 --> 00:04:18,680 not history's greatest pope, to put it mildly, and yet even he has 54 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:25,959 spoken out against gender ideology, which he has called the worst danger of our 55 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:32,079 time or like the ugliest ideology of our time. He's been really straightforward about 56 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,000 it for the time being at least, so you actually have the backing of 57 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:41,759 the big guy in the Roman Catholic Church to go out and speak with confidence 58 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:45,120 about these things like I don't you know, I'm not Roman Catholic. I 59 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,240 don't understand how all of that works. But like you've got good, powerful 60 00:04:48,319 --> 00:04:53,120 backing to speak the truth there. You shouldn't be so fearful, and just 61 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,319 fear in general is not something you should associate with a healthy church. You 62 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,759 think about all the people who were martyred for expressing the truth in the early 63 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:06,160 days of Christianity that continues to this day in other countries, and you're scared 64 00:05:06,199 --> 00:05:14,120 of speaking out against your government embracing the evil of radical gender ideology, like 65 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,160 you don't deserve to be a man of the cloth or any kind of leader 66 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,959 of a church institution. And also you don't have to fall for the framing 67 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,920 of the left on this. You by by calling it out, you're not 68 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,000 being a hater. You're saying listen, at least this is how I would 69 00:05:28,079 --> 00:05:31,160 say that these people are are damaged to people that you know, we don't 70 00:05:31,199 --> 00:05:34,000 you know or whatever, and that this is not you know, and that 71 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,920 we don't need to celebrate this thing. You don't have to, you know, 72 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,519 be hateful about it. But I just want to quickly say in Judaism, 73 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,000 and I'm probably I'm going to get the specifics wrong, so someone can 74 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,199 write in and tell me, but there's one of the it's a sin to 75 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,759 mislead people about what Judaism is. So a person with a yamagon doesn't walk 76 00:05:49,759 --> 00:05:54,439 into a McDonald's because someone else might see it and think it's a kosher right 77 00:05:54,519 --> 00:05:58,959 or that kind of thing. Well, Biden is engaged on a grand scale 78 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,399 in misleading people about what Christianity and Catholicism, you know, what's acceptable and 79 00:06:03,439 --> 00:06:08,879 what's not. And it's not just Orthodoxy. I mean, are there church? 80 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,959 Are there? Is there some kind of like Catholic offshoot that says abortions? 81 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,879 Okay, I guess maybe there is some fake church or whatever. But 82 00:06:14,959 --> 00:06:18,360 in general, he's misleading people, and it's just it stumps me. I 83 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:23,759 don't understand why more people aren't just outraged by it who are religious, and 84 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,759 maybe they are, but the institutions themselves. I mean, I don't know. 85 00:06:26,759 --> 00:06:29,480 I'm just ramping now, but it is just again not my church, 86 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,600 so not you know, entirely my place. But I do know there have 87 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:40,120 been some brave people who have worked to limit communion from people who openly embrace 88 00:06:40,319 --> 00:06:44,680 the slaughter of children in the womb, and they have been punished from their 89 00:06:44,759 --> 00:06:48,800 high by their higher ups or you know, competing archbishops will say, oh, 90 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,560 don't worry that that guy won't give you a communion, Nancy Pelosi, 91 00:06:51,639 --> 00:06:56,639 I'll give you a communion, you know, totally undermining the spiritual authority of 92 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,439 the of the archbishop where the individual actually live. And so it's very hard 93 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:08,600 to publicly advocate for the truth when you're being undermined by people in your own 94 00:07:08,639 --> 00:07:12,560 church body. And that's why it's what they're doing is very bad to their 95 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,279 brothers. As a secular person, I just feel these religious organizations have a 96 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,279 duty, a duty to stand up for these sorts of things. And let's 97 00:07:19,319 --> 00:07:24,199 get into something else. By the way, the proclamation itself is filled with 98 00:07:24,319 --> 00:07:29,240 just absolute just lies. Right. It's a political stunt on top of all 99 00:07:29,279 --> 00:07:32,399 of it, because he here's what Biden says that he says that extremists are 100 00:07:32,399 --> 00:07:38,360 proposing hundreds of hateful laws at target and terrify transgender kids and their families, 101 00:07:38,399 --> 00:07:43,040 silencing teachers, banning books, threatening parents and doctors and nurses and so on. 102 00:07:43,759 --> 00:07:46,279 All of that is a lie. Right. There are no banned books. 103 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,360 There is pornography and schools, and some people don't want it in schools. 104 00:07:50,399 --> 00:07:54,279 You can buy those books for your kids if you're a psycho, go 105 00:07:54,319 --> 00:07:56,720 to Amazon and buy it. You don't have to have it into schools. 106 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,759 But moreover, this is a true you know, this is a debate over 107 00:08:01,839 --> 00:08:07,759 what is allowable, what kind of surgery, and what kind of drugs are 108 00:08:07,839 --> 00:08:11,959 allowable, you know, for kids sometimes who are prepubescent kids, I mean 109 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,040 that is a debate. You're tree pubescent who maybe are in the throes of 110 00:08:16,079 --> 00:08:22,319 mental delusion, who may someday recover from their mental delusion and to have permanent 111 00:08:22,639 --> 00:08:31,000 sterilization and permanent violence done to healthy body parts in order to be part of 112 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:37,799 this radical religious like delusion or radical like it's just so, it's so awful, 113 00:08:37,879 --> 00:08:43,000 like, you know, they're permanently sterilizing children, And yeah, I 114 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:46,799 think that should be banned. I'm not so sure it should be allowed for 115 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:52,320 anyone, but it definitely should not be allowed for children. And that's not 116 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:58,159 a crazy thing to say, by the way. Like one weird thing about 117 00:08:58,159 --> 00:09:03,799 this is that polling shows that not just little majorities, but massive majorities of 118 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:11,320 Americans, including Democrats, oppose radical gender ideology. And yet Joe Biden and 119 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:16,360 other leaders in his party are they sound as if they're dealing with an issue 120 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,279 that eighty percent of Americans agree with. It is true that one hundred percent 121 00:09:20,279 --> 00:09:22,480 of people in corporate media agree with them, which makes it very easy to 122 00:09:22,639 --> 00:09:26,639 do these types of things without pushback, but most Americans oppose it. Well, 123 00:09:26,639 --> 00:09:31,440 that's why this messaging is always infused with euphemisms. They you know, 124 00:09:31,879 --> 00:09:37,679 gender affirming surgery, you know, which is a complete or Weellian phrase. 125 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:43,519 It's gender dissenting mutilation or something that would be the proper way to talk about 126 00:09:43,519 --> 00:09:46,559 that. Oh, even like when people say, like you have to use 127 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,039 someone's quote unquote pronouns, and you know, I, of course, and 128 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,600 we at the Federalists don't believe. We believe pronouns are sex and number specific, 129 00:09:54,799 --> 00:10:00,679 and so we don't use false pronouns. But I think that corporate media 130 00:10:00,759 --> 00:10:03,759 and other radicals say that false pronouns are the real pronouns. I mean's just 131 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,720 it's it's why it's so important to fight for the language. And there's a 132 00:10:07,759 --> 00:10:13,799 religious you know, we have a we have a college John Davidson whose new 133 00:10:13,799 --> 00:10:18,519 book is Pagan America America, right, Pagan America, And he's right, 134 00:10:20,039 --> 00:10:22,399 there's a religious tenor to the way they talk about these things. He is 135 00:10:24,159 --> 00:10:28,320 Joe Biden showed more reverence towards Transgendered Visibility Day than he did to Easter in 136 00:10:28,399 --> 00:10:35,639 this in this proclamation right here, transgender acceptance Day, Acceptance Day. No, 137 00:10:35,759 --> 00:10:39,600 today's visibility visibility. It was a visibility day, Okay, come on, 138 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,919 get your holidays straight, by the way, I hate all these identity 139 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:48,960 holidays, awareness days, awareness months, awareness weeks. I don't care if 140 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,639 it were for like conservative Jews who live in Virginia day. I mean, 141 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,480 I just find it annoying. I don't know, I actually kind of like 142 00:10:56,519 --> 00:10:58,279 it when you can, you know, honor the different people who make the 143 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:03,120 country, you know, what it is. But that's better when you actually 144 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,000 like what the other people are or can tolerate them in like a nice festive 145 00:11:07,039 --> 00:11:09,919 spirit, like oh, it's the Serbs Day of Happiness, so okay, 146 00:11:09,919 --> 00:11:13,320 great. But when it's like starting to be like, oh it's for the 147 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,639 doctors who cut off healthy body parts of children permanently sterilizing them, It's like 148 00:11:16,759 --> 00:11:20,200 I don't want to celebrate that day. That seems like a bad day to 149 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,679 celebrate. I don't want to celebrate. You know, like you understand, 150 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,440 like in a healthy society that you might have a variety of opinions, But 151 00:11:26,639 --> 00:11:33,679 if they're that awful, that's when it becomes a problem. When is middle 152 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,600 aged, heterosexual white Doe day of Acceptance and awareness and visibility. When do 153 00:11:37,639 --> 00:11:43,840 we get our That's April fifteenth, that's tax day. That's good. Oh 154 00:11:43,879 --> 00:11:48,320 my god, that's coming up. A quick note on that. We weren't 155 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,919 going to discuss it, but did you see that they're the governments sup for 156 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,879 sharing this IRS program that can do your taxes for you. Now you have 157 00:11:56,919 --> 00:12:00,679 to be the biggest fool on earth to use that program. They want to 158 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,639 use tax payer dollars to get rid of turbo tax and all of that. 159 00:12:05,159 --> 00:12:07,200 Do you think the IRIS is going to get you the best deal. No, 160 00:12:07,279 --> 00:12:09,600 They're going to get you the worst deal. I want to write off 161 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,120 every single thing I can, paying as little as you can in taxes. 162 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,559 It's one of the most patriotic things you can do. IRIS should not be 163 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,840 in the business of doing your taxes in that way. That's just what I 164 00:12:18,879 --> 00:12:24,840 think. Anyway, I feel like I was more upset by this Easter thing 165 00:12:24,159 --> 00:12:28,519 than Christians. And that's oh no, I was. You know at church 166 00:12:28,639 --> 00:12:31,159 this weekend. People were so upset about it, and even people like in 167 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,120 the neighborhood seemed really upset about it. So somehow it broke through. Oh 168 00:12:35,159 --> 00:12:37,720 I do want to say one other thing about it, Sure, did you 169 00:12:37,759 --> 00:12:43,039 notice how like Jonathan Martin and other corporate media types were going after people who 170 00:12:43,159 --> 00:12:48,879 had a problem with marking this day on Easter Sunday and issuing a proclamation. 171 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,519 I mean they were like completely downplaying it and making fun of people who noticed 172 00:12:54,519 --> 00:12:58,720 it and saying it was no big deal. It really is a great reminder 173 00:12:58,759 --> 00:13:03,960 of how detached from reality these people in corporate media are. I was talking 174 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,559 to someone who was at the White House who you picked up on this actually, 175 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,840 who saw it was one of the proclamations issued on Good Friday and thought 176 00:13:13,879 --> 00:13:16,559 a big deal, you know, thought it was newsworthy. And the pushback 177 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:22,559 they got from their peers in the White House press, you know, situation 178 00:13:24,039 --> 00:13:28,679 was exactly what you would expect it to be. Well, when I was 179 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,759 young, you'd see, like, you know, they'd be the zealous sort 180 00:13:31,759 --> 00:13:35,159 of evangelicals. At least that's was my view of the world, you know, 181 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:41,480 banging on a table, worried about the gaze or whatever this is. 182 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:46,200 This is not that, this is just insanity and it is completely normal. 183 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,279 They're the ones who are the religious zealots for their woke religion whatever you want 184 00:13:50,279 --> 00:13:54,960 to call it. But they just continue to use that kind of mocking tone 185 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,559 towards people who are upset by this stuff. I actually think they're much more 186 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:03,200 related than people recognize, and I understand that. You know, there're a 187 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:07,360 ton of gay people who are very opposed to radical gender ideology, but there 188 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:15,559 is there are elements of feminism and the gay rights movement that really overlap quite 189 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,000 a bit with the gender ideology movement. And what I mean by that is 190 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:26,120 that there is a rejection of nature in all of these systems, meaning like 191 00:14:28,519 --> 00:14:33,759 women have a particular they have they have you know, we get pregnant, 192 00:14:33,399 --> 00:14:39,639 and a lot of the feminist movement seems about rebelling against that reality that women 193 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,480 are the carriers of the next generation and they're built around you know, so 194 00:14:43,559 --> 00:14:48,240 like even think about how they're like it's so important that we make sure women 195 00:14:48,399 --> 00:14:52,200 can fill corner offices and get X amount of pay, and it's like, 196 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,399 well, there are kind of reasons why women and men have have gone into 197 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,960 different lines of work, and it's actually a good thing for a healthy societ 198 00:15:00,759 --> 00:15:07,200 that we protect women's ability to state and deliver children. 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Zapmdebt dot com. 221 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,920 I also, since we're going to take a deeper dive on this, 222 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,960 I see a lot of you know, the more I don't want to know 223 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,240 what to call them, but maybe Christian nationalist types with the intellectual wing. 224 00:17:22,279 --> 00:17:26,920 You know, they blame liberalism because obviously there are notions of equality, and 225 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,880 you keep taking that to its logical end, you end up in a place 226 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,839 where even you know, any kind of perversion whatever however, they see it, 227 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,599 you know, as nuts. But I also blame Christianity a little bit 228 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,000 in the sense Tom Holland actually called the wokeness a reformation without God. Like 229 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,720 the the idea that everyone's equal, that everyone must be you know, treated, 230 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,440 you know, with a certain kind of dignity and respect, and I 231 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,240 actually believe that's true, has been kind of morphed into this idea where you 232 00:17:52,319 --> 00:17:57,400 have to take all kinds of perversions of nature or whatever and treat it as 233 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,480 if it were a norm. Do you know what I'm say saying? So 234 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,799 I disagree with that. It's like that Thomas soul saying, where you know, 235 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,119 if you're so open minded that your brain falls out, that that's a 236 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,160 problem. And I think there are limitations on that. Now. I don't 237 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,279 want to punish anyone, but I do want to be able to say that 238 00:18:15,279 --> 00:18:18,079 that's not the norm, that's not normal, should not be accepted by society. 239 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,759 Right. That's right where I think prudence and wisdom really play a big 240 00:18:22,839 --> 00:18:29,039 role here. So how do you create a society that provides for a healthy 241 00:18:29,079 --> 00:18:34,200 reproduction into you know, new generations while also understanding that not you know, 242 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,200 not every woman will get married and have a family and so, you know, 243 00:18:37,279 --> 00:18:41,079 like these are really challenging issues. But I think we have gone so 244 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:51,000 crazy into a sphere where a minority of women who care deeply about like not 245 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,720 happiness in the home so much as happiness in the corporate world, are just 246 00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:59,039 privileged beyond belief, while the vast majority of women who do seek to get 247 00:18:59,039 --> 00:19:03,599 married and have children and raise beautiful families and have a loving home, like 248 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,039 it's harder for us because of the way we've made some of these changes. 249 00:19:07,519 --> 00:19:08,839 We see birth rates falling, and a lot of that has to do with 250 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:14,319 women in the workplace starting and then maybe coming to the realization that they don't 251 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,440 have families. But you know, biology is what it is, and you 252 00:19:17,599 --> 00:19:19,000 just don't have that much time to do that sort of thing. And I 253 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,160 think that that's a big driver of this. But you know, the first 254 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,480 wave feminists, they were even talking about how like marriage was essentially rape and 255 00:19:26,519 --> 00:19:30,079 slavery, right, I mean this, you know, they've just kind of 256 00:19:30,079 --> 00:19:33,559 distorted the view of family and children and sexuality in a way. And I 257 00:19:33,599 --> 00:19:37,119 don't know, I'm not a very big social conservative in that sense, but 258 00:19:37,799 --> 00:19:41,319 it's just it's gone too far, and I don't know that there's a way 259 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,319 healthy way back, honestly, or a free way back in a free society. 260 00:19:45,319 --> 00:19:51,039 That can work, especially when you have the president and Democrats acting like 261 00:19:51,799 --> 00:19:52,960 I was talking to my wife about this. You know, I was not 262 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:57,119 that interested in these issues. They made me interested in them because they are 263 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:02,680 the ones who are cultural in heerialist, who demand that you accept everything that 264 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,880 they accept. Not that you can't just live next to someone. You must 265 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,960 accept their lifestyle. You must celebrate their lifestyle, you must be aware of 266 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,319 it, you must see its visibility. Blah blah blah. I don't want 267 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:17,319 to. I don't like most people in general. I certainly don't want to 268 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,960 hear about your you know, you see a flag about your sexual exploits. 269 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,680 I don't really care. Probably get any trouble for saying this. I don't 270 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,759 really care care well, I mean you kind of have to just speak truth. 271 00:20:26,799 --> 00:20:30,559 Oh really quickly on this since we're on the trans thing. So you 272 00:20:30,599 --> 00:20:36,079 saw Scotland past this anti quote unquote hate law, so you're not allowed to 273 00:20:36,079 --> 00:20:40,880 speak true things if they hurt people's feelings or something. And JK Rowling, 274 00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:45,720 God bless her the moment it went into effect, she just started violating the 275 00:20:45,799 --> 00:20:48,480 law. Like does she live there? Does she live in Scotland? I 276 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,960 guess so, and she was like, she flat out said, I challenge 277 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,039 you to arrest me and put me on trial for speaking the truth that men 278 00:20:57,079 --> 00:21:02,000 cannot become women. And it kind of came out that they're not going to 279 00:21:02,039 --> 00:21:03,759 go after her, and she's like, okay, but if you go after 280 00:21:03,799 --> 00:21:07,000 anyone else, I'm going to repeat the thing they said, so that you 281 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,440 have to go after me and not just the poor, like the poor person 282 00:21:10,519 --> 00:21:14,039 who doesn't have the money to fight you. I mean, that is awesome 283 00:21:14,079 --> 00:21:18,920 and it shows courage. Very few people have had as much pushback as she 284 00:21:18,039 --> 00:21:21,440 has. And I know she's wealthy and I know she's powerful, but she's 285 00:21:21,559 --> 00:21:27,640 using that wealth and power for good and everyone should be this bold on speaking 286 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:33,559 out against it. I actually think that pushback against radical gender ideology is one 287 00:21:33,559 --> 00:21:37,000 of the few success stories of of recent years, and it's mostly a thank 288 00:21:37,039 --> 00:21:41,920 you to Elon Musk. So the gender crazies made it so that it was 289 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:48,880 illegal, essentially, not like government illegal, but social media illegal to speak 290 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,119 truth about men being men and women being women, and if you said it, 291 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,240 you were accused of hate speech and then you would be deplatformed, like 292 00:21:56,319 --> 00:22:00,519 removed from Facebook, Twitter and the rest. When Elon Musk bought Twitter, 293 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:02,920 Who's like, we're going to make this a free speech zone. And so 294 00:22:03,519 --> 00:22:07,480 people have been able to speak the truth and not have to adopt these false 295 00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:11,480 narratives and lies about what it means to be a woman or what it means 296 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:12,920 to be a man. And it's been huge, Like people are like, 297 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,240 Okay, I'm not alone. Because one of the effects of censorship and suppression 298 00:22:17,279 --> 00:22:21,839 of speech is it makes you feel like scared to speak the truth because you 299 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,680 think that you don't think there are many people who are with you. You 300 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,200 know that study that they did where they put everybody in. They put all 301 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,680 these people in a room and everyone but one person was in on the thing 302 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,160 where they would like, ask you to measure two strips of paper, and 303 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,559 one was noticeably smaller than the other one. But everyone would say it was 304 00:22:41,599 --> 00:22:45,319 the same size except for the And then when the one person who was the 305 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,119 actual subject would get to them, they'd also say it was the same size. 306 00:22:49,559 --> 00:22:55,559 But if you put one other person in that circle who said, obviously, 307 00:22:55,599 --> 00:23:00,000 this one's bigger than the other one, then the test subject would always 308 00:23:00,039 --> 00:23:04,880 agree with that person. And it shows how just one other voice can do 309 00:23:06,079 --> 00:23:08,079 so much good and people should think about that when they're scared to talk to 310 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:12,880 their neighbors or schoolmates or you know, officemates about the truth, they should 311 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,519 remember that just like one voice with the courage to speak the truth can can 312 00:23:18,519 --> 00:23:21,839 light a forest fire to mix. There's a quote I don't remember who it's 313 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,839 from, but it goes something like this generation was taught that protesting was the 314 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,799 most the bravest thing you can do, when it was actually the most cowardly 315 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,680 thing you can do. Is being a giant mob of people just agreeing with 316 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,240 everyone. It takes a lot of courage not to do that, which I 317 00:23:37,279 --> 00:23:38,839 think we should bring up this email that someone said. I don't have the 318 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,400 specifics, but it was something like, why do we do what we do 319 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,240 when things always say the same and this and that? And it just hit 320 00:23:45,319 --> 00:23:48,200 me that part of what we do not that we're brave. I don't think 321 00:23:48,519 --> 00:23:51,200 any writer is really brave unless they live in Russia or something. I mean, 322 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,400 sometimes people are like, you're so brave because I agree with them, 323 00:23:52,519 --> 00:23:56,480 you know, but it does give us a chance to say things that we 324 00:23:56,519 --> 00:23:59,680 think are true, and maybe that helps people say, you know, I 325 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,319 agree with that, and I should be saying that as well. I was 326 00:24:03,519 --> 00:24:07,200 like struggling to find a reason to say this is why we do what we 327 00:24:07,319 --> 00:24:10,039 do. But I think that that's important. And I also to give maybe 328 00:24:10,079 --> 00:24:11,559 people more a little more because we have the time, and not that we're 329 00:24:11,599 --> 00:24:15,359 smarter really than most people, I'm not, but that we can articulate the 330 00:24:15,519 --> 00:24:21,559 arguments maybe and do the research that helps people grasp an issue better and be 331 00:24:21,599 --> 00:24:25,119 able to argue for the side of truth that were helping. I also wish 332 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,799 we had this email in front of us because it was such a good email 333 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:33,359 and it really challenged my thinking about you know, we identify these problems so 334 00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:37,319 well, whether it's elections or you know, other major intractable issues, but 335 00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:42,839 then nothing changes, and so when you sort of start to lose hope about 336 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,759 anything ever changing. But partly I think for me it is a little bit 337 00:24:48,759 --> 00:24:53,119 of a religious thing, like I'm not promised a certain outcome, but I 338 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,960 am required to do things regardless. So for instance, telling the truth would 339 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,640 be one of the things that that I'm supposed to do. Doesn't mean that 340 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:04,680 telling the truth will lead to personal success, might even lead to death, 341 00:25:04,839 --> 00:25:08,200 but I'm still called to tell the truth. So I worry less about particular 342 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,720 outcomes. But I also noticed that throughout history sometimes things would be very bleak 343 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:18,960 for a fairly lengthy period of time, and then like miraculously enough ground had 344 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:25,519 been planted and fertilized that something dramatically different happened. And so you could think, 345 00:25:25,559 --> 00:25:30,680 for example, about the Communist the Soviet Union, and how many people 346 00:25:30,839 --> 00:25:36,279 died under the Soviet system and how it went on and on for so many 347 00:25:36,319 --> 00:25:41,319 decades. I mean, some people were born and died under Communist Russia, 348 00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:48,319 and yet when things fell, they fell big, big time, and it 349 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,680 was because like a lot of people had done the work of educating enough of 350 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:56,799 a resistance so that when the opportunity arose, they could finally overthrow the shackles. 351 00:25:56,839 --> 00:25:59,000 So I kind of look at it that way, like we don't know 352 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,799 what could happening. Something could change everything in a moment's notice, and we 353 00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:07,759 want people to be as prepared as possible to achieve the greatest success, whereas 354 00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:12,079 if you just give up, you have very little odds of success. I 355 00:26:12,079 --> 00:26:15,880 mean I always get emails like, so, yeah, what's the solution. 356 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,599 You never offer solutions. Well, I don't know that I have them, 357 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,759 and I don't know that it works that way. I think there are some 358 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,200 problems that there are really no solutions for. You can't ever really say that 359 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,799 when I talk about school shootings, I always think about this, I don't 360 00:26:26,839 --> 00:26:30,240 really have a good solution to how to stop a crazy person from killing people, 361 00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:33,640 because that solution has not been found in four ten thousand years of humans 362 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,720 being in tribal existence. Right, But you know, you still have to 363 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,880 make the arguments and you hope that yeah, yes and no. There are 364 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,480 plenty of things people can do, and like they actually need to start doing 365 00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:49,000 them much better, like supporting people who are courageous and out there, Like 366 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,480 that's true, whether it's yeah, those of us in the media, but 367 00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:56,640 also those people who are doing political activism or even just like in your personal 368 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,359 life, supporting the people who are doing the right things are way too willing 369 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:06,559 to not fight hard, give money, like take their time to improve the 370 00:27:06,599 --> 00:27:08,920 situation. If you're just sitting around complaining and you're not actually putting the work 371 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,839 in, like you need to change that. And until such time as people 372 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,640 are devoting as much as they can to proper education, living their own life, 373 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,519 the best way, helping others do it, you know, again, 374 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,960 supporting those people who are good and willing to be out there. You know, 375 00:27:26,319 --> 00:27:29,559 you said we're not courageous, and I completely agree. And also it's 376 00:27:29,599 --> 00:27:33,119 not fun to take the slings and arrows that come our way, like it's 377 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,079 hard, and this is like such a simple little thing. But I love 378 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,759 that so many people send me nice notes. People always say that people are 379 00:27:41,839 --> 00:27:45,799 mean in on the internet, and I get so little of that, and 380 00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:51,440 it really I am one of those people who is encouraged by knowing I've made 381 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,000 a difference or something. So when people tell me like they read something I 382 00:27:55,079 --> 00:28:00,440 wrote on the nature of marriage and it changed their mind, or they were 383 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,960 willing to speak out against this law because of my explanation about why it was 384 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:10,640 bad. It really keeps me going because you know, in DC, you 385 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,240 get a lot of people shooting glares at you and sort of like behind your 386 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,880 back twitters and mocking and you know, pressure to join their club. And 387 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,960 knowing that there are other people out there who support and that's not just like 388 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,160 the emails, but the financial support and all that stuff, it really really 389 00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:33,599 does keep me going. It's interesting. Yeah, I just always thought that 390 00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:37,920 I think I change very few minds, But I do think that I help 391 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,480 people, maybe on the fence, articulate an argument like that's my hope. 392 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,880 I don't write it because I think I'm going to change a lot of people's 393 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,440 minds. I write because I want to make good arguments to people, and 394 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,480 actually, you know, even if they don't use them, I just want 395 00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:52,440 to make good arguments to make people think about an issue that I care about. 396 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,319 And I am just I hate this naval gazing gazing, but I'm completely 397 00:28:56,559 --> 00:29:00,480 blessed to be able to do that. And sometimes when I'm ripping into someone 398 00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:03,400 I don't like who's powerful, it makes me feel so great that I live 399 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,759 here where I can do that. And that is a blessing too, because 400 00:29:06,759 --> 00:29:08,880 they deserve it and we don't have it. You know. I've been thinking 401 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,960 about this a lot, especially since our last podcast that we talk about the 402 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,559 media and how they are an appendage of the Democratic Party. 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This is more navelgazing, but I just have 429 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,720 to tell you that I am. I'd agreed to speak at a private event 430 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,440 in a little while, and I got the list of who else would be 431 00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:27,920 speaking, and one of the people is someone who I've really spent a lot 432 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:33,640 of time disparaging. I love know when that happens. And you know, 433 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:38,559 I'm kind of a conflict averse person. Might not sound believable given that I'm 434 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,599 willing to engage in combat like on TV, but in my personal life I 435 00:31:42,759 --> 00:31:47,000 try to have low drama and all that. So I'm like, now I 436 00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:52,640 get to spend several months in anxiety about that. So anyway, sometimes I 437 00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:56,559 met politicians, I'm like, I wonder if they read that com I wrote 438 00:31:56,599 --> 00:32:02,119 when I called them, you know, spineless honk or whatever. Probably not. 439 00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:07,880 Maybe. Actually they're so sensitive, right, They're so sensitive that they 440 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,079 will send you mail. I mean, not all of them, but a 441 00:32:09,119 --> 00:32:14,799 lot of them. A lot of public officials are super sensitive. One time 442 00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:19,200 I was interviewing the former Vice president, Mike Pence, and it was not 443 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,400 like an It was like on stage interviewing. But it was not supposed to 444 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:27,640 be a hostile event at all. And I'd written my fair share of things, 445 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,279 you know, not completely effusive in praise of him, like you remember 446 00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:35,559 the Religious Freedom Restoration Act issue and you know all that. But anyway, 447 00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:37,279 I wasn't trying to be mean, but all my questions were about COVID, 448 00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:42,400 because you know, he was the COVID czar or whatever. So ity'd I'll 449 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,240 be like, why were you so keen on Anthony Fauci, you know, 450 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:51,279 and the audience would like cheer the question, and I was like, ah, 451 00:32:51,319 --> 00:32:54,440 this is not going I need to be nicer. But anyway, all 452 00:32:54,559 --> 00:33:00,599 right, so anyway, let's move on to another topic. Very interested in 453 00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:08,359 and that's the end of democracy, which is a very big topic among Democrats. 454 00:33:08,359 --> 00:33:13,880 In fact, I would say that they're almost their entire message for twenty 455 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,000 twenty four is that this is we must save democracy. Actually was their message 456 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:21,079 for twenty twenty two as well, right in mid terms and a lot of 457 00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:29,480 twenty twenty. So the other day RFK Junior Robert Kennedy was on CNN with 458 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,480 Aaron Burnett, who you know, who's going on about, you know, 459 00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:36,640 the end of democracy and Trump and stuff, and he says, actually, 460 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,960 I think Joe Biden's a bigger threat to democracy, which you know, you 461 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:46,279 could hear the spasm of the entire media complex, you know, incredulously wonder 462 00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:53,640 how anyone could possibly think that, And he specifically pointed out that Kennedy was, 463 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,160 I mean, Biden was the first candidate in history, the first president 464 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,519 in history that used the federal use federal agencies to censor political speech or sensor 465 00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:07,519 as opponent. Now I disagree slightly because Eugene debs And was in prison for 466 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,679 being an anti World War One activist. He was a socialist during the Wilson 467 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:17,039 But since then I think that this is a true statement and much as I 468 00:34:17,039 --> 00:34:22,280 don't like Donald Trump must be mentioned every show, I think Joe Biden is 469 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,599 a far bigger threat to democracy because a lot of the stuff I don't like 470 00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:30,800 that Trump does is kind of his personal is a personal Trump centric kind of 471 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:37,280 effort, where what Biden does, I think is undermining the constitutional order in 472 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:44,840 just dozens of ways that are forever damaging to this country, while using Trump 473 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,280 as the excuse to do it. So, you know, I'd be happy 474 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,519 to go through what I think about that, But what do you think about 475 00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:52,400 that comment? So? I thought it actually showed bravery. And I know 476 00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:57,840 we're not talking about real bravery when you're talking about being on TV and saying 477 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,239 things. But to go on CNN and speak simple truth about Joe Biden's assault 478 00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:07,440 on the First Amendment in a very hostile environment where you're trying to kind of 479 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,840 get support from that media outlet, that just I was really impressed with that, 480 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,119 and it made me. You know, I disagree with RFK Junior on 481 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:22,079 so many things, but I do like his willingness to push back against some 482 00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:28,280 false narratives. Yeah, yeah, I agree with you on RFK. I 483 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,599 don't know I was going to say he's an old style I think he's a 484 00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:36,039 kook in many ways, but he's an old style liberal, much like JK. 485 00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:38,639 Rowling is that her name, JK Rowlings is an old style liberal. 486 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:44,360 But the truth is that RFK one time said that that climate denier should be 487 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:49,159 in prisons. Yeah, it's actually sure, but whatever is, he's correctly, 488 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,079 he's correct about the censorship. But I'm sorry to interrupt. Go on, 489 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,920 Well, two things. One, I remember when I watched his Super 490 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,440 Bowl ad. I thought it wasn't great, but almost everybody else I talked 491 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,360 to thought it was super great. And I keep remembering it, and there 492 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,679 is this like throwback to like, oh yeah, remember when liberals actually were 493 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,760 liberal. That was fun, that was good, and they they were like 494 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:15,440 more sensible and all that. But it makes me insane or feel insane when 495 00:36:15,519 --> 00:36:22,360 I watch people talk about how Donald Trump is a threat to democracy while the 496 00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:32,519 current regime and administration are literally attempting to imprison their top political opponent and hundreds, 497 00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:37,119 if not thousands of his supporters. And I don't just mean by that 498 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:42,119 people who were just like a tiny fraction of the overall rioters of the twenty 499 00:36:42,199 --> 00:36:46,719 twenty twenty twenty one season the pro lifers who are engaged in political protest, 500 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:53,440 the parents at school board meetings like they are on an absolute jihad against their 501 00:36:53,559 --> 00:37:00,199 political opponents. They are engaged in such widespread censorship and support the censorship industrial 502 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:06,039 complex that it is utterly destroying the First Amendment. And so to hear these 503 00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:08,920 people be like, Donald Trump's a threat to democracy because he did something we 504 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,960 always do, which is question election results and refuse to say that, you 505 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,400 you know, accept them every time you're on TV. It makes me feel 506 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:24,719 crazy. Yeah, questioning an election is not an assault on democracy. I 507 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,639 mean, the first thing we should mention is that when they say democracy, 508 00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:32,000 they're not even talking about the constitutional order. They're just talking about whatever it 509 00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:37,079 is that they care about policy wise, and perhaps the twenty twenty election, 510 00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:40,079 but not the twenty sixteen, and not to twenty two thousand election or the 511 00:37:40,119 --> 00:37:44,639 two thousand and four election or whatever. I just want to say, yeah, 512 00:37:44,639 --> 00:37:49,159 they so, all these people deny the veracity of elections all the time, 513 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,559 But you can't steal an election in this country if you have strong institutions, 514 00:37:54,599 --> 00:37:57,960 like a real Supreme Court. But what do they do? They want 515 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,039 to destroy the Supreme Court when the Supreme Court stopped al Gore from stealing an 516 00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:05,280 election. You know what did they do? They smeared the Supreme Court. 517 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,199 What did they do now? They smear and delegitimize, delegitimize the Supreme Court. 518 00:38:09,519 --> 00:38:15,960 They're attacking institutions of governance, whereas I don't Donald Trump built the Supreme 519 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,760 Court. I mean, he helped build it, and it is one of 520 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,840 the few institutions that still upholds the Constitution. Not perfectly but mind you, 521 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,639 but still better than most. I just don't even understand the argument. I 522 00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:31,559 don't even understand the argument because it's fraudulent and the lawfair. I think that's 523 00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:34,920 why I wanted to say, so, Yeah, I get upset that Donald 524 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,840 Trump has to deal with stuff, but you know, deal with law fair. 525 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,920 It's wrong, but at least he's Donald Trump. He has the means 526 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,760 to fight back. How about the Catholic people who are standing in front of 527 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,199 the abortion clinic or whoever it was, I'm not sure actually if they were 528 00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:51,639 Catholic but protesting, or the people who wanted to protest school boards. They 529 00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:58,760 don't you know, that is just a complete assault on actual democratic institutions and 530 00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:02,280 democrats see and they've been doing it since the beginning anyway. It's just it's 531 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:07,400 frustrating. I don't hold on. It's like Donald Trump can Donald Trump can 532 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,719 handle it. He's a billionaire. I mean, these fines, whether they 533 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:15,519 are the eighty eight million dollars for the made up claim of an assault by 534 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,840 that fifty five year old woman at the time what is her name, e 535 00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:25,320 Jene Carroll, or it seems to a lot of people I should say that 536 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:32,639 it was not completely accurate, or the four hundred and fifty million dollar fine 537 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,360 for repaying a loan with interest, where everybody was happy, like that's not 538 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:42,440 nothing. I don't care if you're a billionaire, like that's that is nothing. 539 00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:46,840 Yeah, there's Eighth Amendment problems here. I think taxation is stuff. 540 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:52,079 So yeah, I think all of that's But the thing is, I'm just 541 00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:55,760 saying that at least he has, you know, half the country behind him. 542 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,559 Whatever. I'm just saying that that the law fair we always have to 543 00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:05,119 remember, is also directed at every day people who are protesting COVID restrictions, 544 00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:10,039 who are protesting you know, uh, the identitarian agendas and schools who were 545 00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:15,119 you know that, people who are smeared and destroyed, who don't have anyone, 546 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,639 you know, or a lot of people behind them, And and I 547 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:21,840 just want to remind people that law fair is not just about Trump. It's 548 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:27,719 about a lot of other people whose names you don't know, and you know, 549 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,719 it's just it's evil, it's nefarious, it's a way to run government, 550 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:36,119 and people celebrate it on the on the left. That's my biggest problem 551 00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:42,239 is that they cheer on all these attacks on actual constitutional order and using Donald 552 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,119 Trump as an excuse to do it. And I am of the belief that 553 00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:49,679 if Ron DeSantis had won the primary, they would be doing very not the 554 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,039 exact same things, but they would be abusing these agencies to go after him 555 00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:59,159 as well. And RFK was right that the that these that the that the 556 00:40:59,199 --> 00:41:06,960 White House worked with big corporations who run our you know, our communication platforms, 557 00:41:07,039 --> 00:41:09,679 let the I R s, let the FBI, let other you know, 558 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:15,519 the Justice Department dictates speech patterns and censor people, which is in my 559 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:20,320 mind a form of fascism. That's exactly what fascism is. And tech companies 560 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,079 are very they're big, they're rent seeking, the care about government regulation. 561 00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:28,199 They will do what the government tells them. This is why the government should 562 00:41:28,199 --> 00:41:31,400 not be involved in speech on any level. And I think the Supreme Court 563 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,119 is going to go the wrong way on this from what I've saw in oral 564 00:41:35,199 --> 00:41:40,039 arguments. But I just cannot understand how we can it completely skirts the meat 565 00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:45,800 the the spirit of the of the First Amendment. The first thing that the 566 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,519 founders thought to write down basically is a special you know, as a right, 567 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,599 and I think that's that's going to be a big mistake. But anyway, 568 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:58,159 it's my rant on that, and I do respect RFK for saying that 569 00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:02,000 stuff, even though I think he's kind of a kook. So let me 570 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,159 ask you, actually, since we're talking about RFK, do you think he 571 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,960 hurts Democrats a lot? Do you think he maybe hurts Trump? I mean, 572 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,760 I've heard a lot of sort of people you know, who are I 573 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,440 would say, on the right kind of pop maybe far populous, right, 574 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:20,199 whatever you want to say, who are pretty big fans of RFK. I 575 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,960 just wonder, like where those votes are coming from. Okay, So I 576 00:42:24,039 --> 00:42:28,199 think there were a lot of people who are super upset with how Trump handled 577 00:42:28,199 --> 00:42:32,320 the COVID response, and they that is one reason why they really supported Ron 578 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,519 DeSantis because they thought he did a better job. Yeah, he had some 579 00:42:36,599 --> 00:42:40,519 like early lockdown, but was able to resist it much better than Trump was 580 00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:44,199 and came out of it, you know, much more quickly. I think 581 00:42:44,199 --> 00:42:51,400 those are slightly different situations. I also am extremely disappointed with how Trump handled 582 00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:57,280 you know, some of that, but I think the pressures that were on 583 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:02,719 him were like almost unbelievable. Like if he had done more to open things 584 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,360 up, I firmly believe he would have been impeached within a moment. But 585 00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:09,960 more than that, I think the percentage of people who are with me on 586 00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:15,360 hating COVID and the vaccine, like not that Trump did vaccine mandates, but 587 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,639 like you know, some of that stuff, they're a pretty small percentage of 588 00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:23,079 the population overall, and you know that because of how Ron DeSantis did in 589 00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:27,159 the primary. But I think they're real and I think they're still out there. 590 00:43:27,159 --> 00:43:30,440 And I think that Trump actually has to be really careful how he talks 591 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,440 about things, and he'll probably figure that out when he's speaking in front of 592 00:43:34,519 --> 00:43:38,000 large crowds how they respond to him, wanting to take credit for any of 593 00:43:38,039 --> 00:43:46,679 the COVID responds. But I don't think those people are as I don't know 594 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,320 what I'm trying to say is Democrats clearly believe that RFK Junior is a threat 595 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:57,519 to their party. And you know this because they're working so hard to keep 596 00:43:57,599 --> 00:44:00,880 him off the ballot, to delegitimize him. You know the moment he said 597 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,760 that yesterday, everyone in the corporate media, which is of course just all 598 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,400 Democrats, they were freaking out that he spoke any level of truth on CNN, 599 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:13,400 which is a media outlet that's very unused to hearing any truth. And 600 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:20,239 they clearly view him as a weakening force for Biden, not Trump. Likewise, 601 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,320 the Republicans don't seem so worried about him. They're not worried about putting 602 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,960 him on the ballot. Democrats are engaged in a great deal of lawfare to 603 00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:30,760 keep third parties, including RFK Junior, off the ballot. So that's all 604 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:36,360 you need to know. The Federal Reserve is lying to you. The watch 605 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,280 Doout on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. 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I don't know what's going 614 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,880 to happen with RFK, but I think Perroh was the only one that really 615 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,400 affected an election really in a big way. A lot of third party voters 616 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:25,039 are disaffected people who wouldn't probably vote for major parties in general anyway. So 617 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,960 I don't know. I don't know how it's going to shake out. I 618 00:45:28,039 --> 00:45:30,440 have to take yeah, yes, no, no good. Different states have 619 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:35,719 different issues. So Hillary Clinton very much believed that the Green Party caused her 620 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,840 loss. She was not without a case there in that two states that she 621 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:45,480 lost were Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, which are two of the biggest Green Party friendly 622 00:45:45,559 --> 00:45:49,440 states out there in terms of like you can get like tens of thousands of 623 00:45:49,559 --> 00:45:55,920 votes for Green Party in Pennsylvania and so that's also why in twenty twenty Democrats 624 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,880 worked so hard to suppress any third party the people from being allowed on the 625 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,599 ballot. I actually tell the story and rigged about what was done. Like 626 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,320 Kanye West was running in Wisconsin, and they claimed that he came in literally 627 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:14,519 like thirteen seconds too late to register, which you know you had to be 628 00:46:14,519 --> 00:46:20,519 before you to be by five o'clock and the end of the five o'clock dot 629 00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:23,480 zero zero, and he was at like five you know, dot dot zero 630 00:46:23,559 --> 00:46:29,239 zero dot thirteen seconds, so he was too late. And then they did 631 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:34,559 all sorts of lawfare to keep the Green Party off in Pennsylvania in really legally 632 00:46:34,639 --> 00:46:39,320 suspicious ways. And so it doesn't matter in Virginia maybe, or it doesn't 633 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:45,079 matter in Illinois, but it doesn't matter in Wisconsin. In Pennsylvania, I 634 00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:47,199 said, certainly better not to have them around for major parties, that's for 635 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:52,679 sure. It's just I remember hearing like X number of people voted for Libertarians 636 00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:54,960 in Florida and the Republican loss by X number, Like it doesn't work that 637 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,000 way. A lot of these libertarians hate Republicans, a lot of these Green 638 00:46:59,039 --> 00:47:02,119 Party people hate in corporate Democrats. You know, I'm just saying it's more, 639 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,559 it's it's more complicated. Quickly, one last thing, I just want 640 00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:08,199 to go back on the on Trump and how he handled COVID, which I 641 00:47:08,199 --> 00:47:12,239 don't think was great, but in weirdly I don't think was as bad as 642 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,360 a lot of other kind of people. I mean, I think his vaccine 643 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,599 push was actually a good thing. The bad part of the vaccine thing is 644 00:47:19,639 --> 00:47:22,679 mandates, you know, when the government gets together with corporations and forces people 645 00:47:22,679 --> 00:47:25,039 to do things. But I don't think there was anything wrong with trying to 646 00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:29,960 help, you know, not cure, but to mitigate, you know, 647 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,280 what was going on, which was horrible, you know, and a lot 648 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:39,119 of the spread spurred on authoritarian state action. So I didn't really have a 649 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:44,199 huge problem with Trump in vaccines. I'm not against vacciness just to force people 650 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,039 to take them, you know. I mean there's a there's a difference there, 651 00:47:46,119 --> 00:47:55,960 at least from you know, how I see it. So, Okay, 652 00:47:57,199 --> 00:48:00,400 that's enough for politics, right, Let's get to a more let's get 653 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,800 to a more depressing a topic. So what was going on with you last 654 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,920 week? Well, it was our Holy week, which was beautiful, So 655 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:15,239 that's a lot of church services. Unfortunately, my cousin, Garth died on 656 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:22,880 Thursday. He is my same age and which is forty nine, and he 657 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:28,400 would have been fifty on April second. And he had a very long and 658 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,360 difficult battle with suing What is it, No, I forget what it's called 659 00:48:35,159 --> 00:48:39,840 Ewing's sarcoma. Yes, sorry, and it's a horrible type of cancer that 660 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:45,800 he went through twice and this time it killed him. But he was just 661 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,239 like a one of a kind cousin. I only have two first cousins on 662 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,519 that side of the family, and he was really close to my brother, 663 00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:58,280 so almost like a brother, and just so fun and fun loving and very 664 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:05,320 athletically talented. He picked up lacrosse in his senior year of high school and 665 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,559 ended up, you know, playing very very well at the college level. 666 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:15,320 And he was just fun and a great father to his two daughters, who 667 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:21,039 were the same age as mine. It's just been really hard. I love 668 00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:24,280 his parents, his sister, his wife, his kids. So sorry, 669 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,000 that's a little depressing, but yeah, it sounds like you brought a lot 670 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,360 of joy to people's lives who were around him, So that's a nice way 671 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:36,639 to be remembered, for sure. I also spent last week at a I 672 00:49:36,679 --> 00:49:39,199 went to a funeral. My mother in law passed away, wonderful woman. 673 00:49:39,679 --> 00:49:45,199 She was eighty seven. I went down to South Carolina, not to make 674 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:51,199 light of anything, but I find the South really weird in a whole other 675 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,159 country, I know. I was saying, how I go into stores and 676 00:49:53,159 --> 00:49:58,159 buy something and the woman would call me sweetheart and baby and love that. 677 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,199 I love it. I think, I don't think I I don't like it, 678 00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:05,800 like I don't even know you, but very friendly and it was nice. 679 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,880 And then I went back up to New York where I grew up for 680 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:12,920 her funeral, and it was it's always nice to see family and people you 681 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,880 haven't seen for a long time. It's you know, it's tough, but 682 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:22,039 it's part of life, right. And it was also a Holy week, 683 00:50:22,119 --> 00:50:25,400 so you know, everyone was busy with that, and you know up there, 684 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:30,039 especially a lot of Catholic people. But it was nice. Yeah, 685 00:50:30,159 --> 00:50:34,320 I mean, it's nice to you know. I think that's far less tragic 686 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,559 than the situation you were talking about with your cousin. I forty nine is 687 00:50:37,639 --> 00:50:40,719 very young. Yeah. Well, I was talking to my aunt, my 688 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:45,440 cousin, Garth's mom, and she lost her mom when she was young, 689 00:50:45,199 --> 00:50:49,440 and I was saying, just how badly I feel for his girls because they're 690 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,679 teenagers, and she said, yeah, it's just a pain that never leaves. 691 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,920 You just carry it with you for the rest of your life. And 692 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:59,239 she's had a very happy, wonderful life, but you know, she doesn't 693 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,000 have her mom. And even if you are not a teenager, when you 694 00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:05,800 lose a parent, I think it's got to be one of the most difficult 695 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,119 things. I talk to my parents every day. I love them so much, 696 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:15,840 like there's such big influences on me, and I dread if I should 697 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:20,960 ever be without them. I mean not that I hope it happens soon, 698 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,760 but that's the way it works, and it is horrible to deal with. 699 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,840 I have not dealt with it. I don't look forward to it either. 700 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,360 I can't. Even the thought of losing my pup drives me into depression. 701 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,400 So I don't know how I'm going to deal with anything. Really. Yeah, 702 00:51:35,559 --> 00:51:42,360 and that dog is old. My dog is old. How about we 703 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,039 change topics from this and talk about something that I only learned about, I 704 00:51:46,079 --> 00:51:50,639 think yesterday or two days ago, that there's some kind of solar eclipse coming 705 00:51:50,639 --> 00:51:53,119 to the United States. Are you excited about this and what is it all 706 00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:58,559 about. I don't know really about eclipses, but my brother saw the last 707 00:51:58,639 --> 00:52:00,960 one that went across the United States back in like I don't know what it 708 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:06,079 was, twenty seventeen or something, and he keeps saying like, I don't 709 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,599 want to be hyperbolic, but it was the greatest moment of my life. 710 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,920 I'd be like, I don't you know. I just don't want to exaggerator 711 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,960 set expectations too high, but my life forever changed once I experienced this. 712 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,119 So he's kind of joking, but also it was clear that it had an 713 00:52:22,119 --> 00:52:24,320 effect and this will be the last. I think this will be the last 714 00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:30,320 eclipse in the United States for like twenty years. And so because he had 715 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:31,719 liked it so much, I was like, maybe I'll just try to see 716 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,840 it. So originally I was thinking I would go to Toledo because it kind 717 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,760 of the path is from Mexico, I think, to Maine. I can't 718 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:42,079 remember exactly what I can give you the path, it's Dallas, than Little 719 00:52:42,119 --> 00:52:45,559 Rock, then Indianapolis, Buffalo, Montreal. Those are the best cities to 720 00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:50,119 be in. That's like the main path. According to NASA. Okay, 721 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,639 So we were going to go to Toledo, which was also in or near 722 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:58,639 the path of totality. But I was a little worried that in April, 723 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,639 I think it's April eighth is the day it's happening, that it will be 724 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:06,800 too cloudy. So I thought, even though it'll probably be cloudy where I'm 725 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,480 going, that the best odds were like as far south as you could get. 726 00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:14,119 So we are going to Austin to see it. And it works out 727 00:53:14,159 --> 00:53:21,159 well, yeah, yeah, So we I'm going to be the mistress and 728 00:53:21,199 --> 00:53:24,800 the Madam of ceremonies at a Claremont dinner. What do you call it? 729 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:31,800 I don't sounds sounds na. What is happening? Well, Claremont, the 730 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:37,079 Claremont Institute is having a big gala out in LA and Mark Levin is speaking, 731 00:53:37,159 --> 00:53:39,840 and I'll be yeah, whatever. So I'll be out there Friday and 732 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:44,280 Saturday, and then on Sunday we fly to Austin. So we're just kind 733 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:49,920 of like coming back through Austin and we have some of our best friends live 734 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,840 there and who are just awesome people, and so we're going to drive and 735 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:59,519 go to a ranch that's more in the path of totality than an Austin is 736 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:04,639 and so it gets you like maximum time, and I'm really excited. I'm 737 00:54:04,639 --> 00:54:07,880 really looking forward to it. I did not think you would be that like 738 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,119 when I asked, I thought it was just going to be a throwaway. 739 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:14,800 But you were literally flying in the into the path of this thing to see 740 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,559 it. So that's that's exciting. I do want to say. Apparently it's 741 00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:21,760 going to be a big deal because when I when I was arranging my travel 742 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,880 to do this, we cannot get out of Austin until Wednesday. So like 743 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:31,800 the eclipse happens middle of the day on Monday. But did you know that 744 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:36,800 Indiana declared a state of emergency because so many people are coming into the state 745 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,719 to see this thing. I'm not even joking. That's great. So but 746 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,480 we can't we couldn't get out. I mean like, unless you're a billionaire, 747 00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:47,800 you can't get a flight out until Wednesday. So then I just told 748 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:52,000 you my cousin Garth died and his funeral is in Denver next Friday. So 749 00:54:52,039 --> 00:54:57,480 I was like, you know what, why don't I just go straight from 750 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:04,760 Austin to Denver on Wednesday? And the tickets are like sixteen hundred dollars and 751 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,320 there's like no escaping it. It's just it's just awful to have to fly 752 00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:15,000 back to DC and then the next morning fly back to Denver. Oh that 753 00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:17,480 was boring travel story. But I'm just saying, like a lot of people 754 00:55:17,559 --> 00:55:22,960 must be going. How the Austin to Denver drives probably like twenty hours or 755 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,800 something. I looked into it, actually, and it's I think it's like 756 00:55:27,119 --> 00:55:31,800 fourteen hours. That's not terrible, but that is a it's a all Should 757 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,280 I have done that? Well, I don't know, because you're flying the 758 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,079 two hours before, et cetera, et cetera. It takes a pretty long 759 00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:39,000 time. But I don't know. I don't want to make you know what 760 00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:43,400 you're doing with the travel plans. I'm sure. How about a bus, 761 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,280 they're probably a buses from aust Like. The buses are pretty nice. I 762 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:52,360 hear your ideas sound very bad for me the same ice. I need it 763 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,519 through the desert. I need to deal with some stuff at home anyway, 764 00:55:54,519 --> 00:55:58,639 so it'll be Yeah, it'll be a few hours of quite efficient work. 765 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,079 I would say it is a probably weird thing that we're talking about for the 766 00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:09,159 audience. Well, sometimes we forget we're on there won't be there won't be 767 00:56:09,199 --> 00:56:12,480 an a clipse for twenty years. So I think that's why it's such a 768 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,280 big deal that I just checked to see how old I would be for the 769 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:21,119 next clips, and there's a chance I'll be around like continue exercising. This 770 00:56:21,199 --> 00:56:24,639 does remind me. I was talking to a friend who was I think he 771 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,719 sent he sent me an email. He might have sent you an email to 772 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:34,320 complaining that when we talk about culture, we don't talk exclusively about classical music. 773 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,679 Yes, something about that. That's the guy who was complaining that we 774 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,199 talk about weird music. I don't even think we talk about weird music. 775 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,840 Last episode I talked about Neil Young. I mean, he's like a pretty 776 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:49,519 famous dude. My friend who's you know, has like eighteen languages and is 777 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:55,079 incredibly well educated. He would be appalled by any discussion of Neil Young because 778 00:56:55,119 --> 00:57:00,480 it's not bach basically not that it's a back. I don't want to be 779 00:57:00,519 --> 00:57:06,960 yelled at. Oh wow, you just let him win the argument. Now. 780 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,840 That is an indefensible position, David, That is an completely indefensible He 781 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:15,880 might be like the best human who ever lived in terms of his talent, 782 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:21,000 I actually picked him. We had a game we were playing this weekend where 783 00:57:21,039 --> 00:57:25,000 we were talking about, like if there was only one album you could listen 784 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,440 to for the rest of your life, or only one genre or only one 785 00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:34,519 artist, And I picked back because I think you can plumb the depths with 786 00:57:34,599 --> 00:57:37,559 him so well, and there's such variety, and he had so prolific and 787 00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:43,159 it's not just the music, it's the lyrics as well. Are there any 788 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,000 artists in the world who have ever lived that you respect deeply but you don't 789 00:57:47,159 --> 00:57:52,920 particularly enjoy listening, reading, watching their movies? I mean, that's it's 790 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,320 possible to take that position correct. Yeah, I kind of feel that way 791 00:57:55,360 --> 00:58:00,239 about Like I don't get angry that other people like Bruce Springsteen, it just 792 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,199 doesn't do anything for me. My lord, he's the worst. He is 793 00:58:04,239 --> 00:58:06,760 the worst. I can't believe that's the name you came up with. He's 794 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:12,559 like the world clearly, Oh my gosh, people like stuff because most people 795 00:58:12,639 --> 00:58:15,920 like garbage. Why do you think Taylor Swift is famous or whatever? She 796 00:58:16,039 --> 00:58:20,679 was? At least she's not great, but she's not bad. She's actually 797 00:58:20,719 --> 00:58:23,079 quite listenable and you can, you know, combined, do you say that 798 00:58:23,079 --> 00:58:28,840 the majority of top ten songs and music is usually just kind of like rehashed 799 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,440 garbage. I think we can agrees. Anyway, let's talk about Bach is 800 00:58:32,519 --> 00:58:37,840 obviously incredibly talented. It's just not down my street, you know. So 801 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:43,480 I like Shashtkovich and darker Russian stuff, you know, stuff like that, 802 00:58:43,599 --> 00:58:45,840 and it's completely legitimate for me to like it. I like classical music, 803 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,480 I just don't. Yeah, I get it. I don't want to be 804 00:58:49,519 --> 00:58:52,480 yelled at it. And we were allowed to listen to rock music. We're 805 00:58:52,559 --> 00:59:00,599 gen xers. Have you listened to any of Bach's passions. I don't know, 806 00:59:00,719 --> 00:59:06,360 probably yes. I actually went two weeks ago to an organ concert at 807 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,920 like one of those giant hype organ things, you know, at a church, 808 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:14,880 and I listened to a guy from Harvard who teaches their organs or whatever, 809 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:19,360 and he's my favorite. I love that instrument so much. And Interstellar 810 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:24,679 had this great soundtrack that was basically organ and it worked, and Christopher Nolan 811 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:30,079 said he picked it because like the organs work, you know about trapping air, 812 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:31,800 you know, moving air through pipes and stuff, and so it was 813 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:38,320 like actually picked for how it related to the lack of oxygen. The sound 814 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:43,239 is otherworldly, right, it's so big and like, you know, s 815 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,199 king of instruments exactly. So that was fun to watch. But it's not 816 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:50,679 like I'm not a big like I wouldn't just buy, you know, vinyl 817 00:59:50,719 --> 00:59:52,719 of someone playing organ. It's just not something that you know, I enjoy, 818 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:57,440 but I can respect it and all that I don't. I don't appreciate 819 00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,039 being attacked. Well, I'm just like, really a that because now my 820 01:00:00,119 --> 01:00:07,760 friend basically won the argument through I don't see how, but anyway, I'm 821 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,599 not you know, I'm not here. That's so to modify your friends, 822 01:00:10,679 --> 01:00:15,159 your your elitist friends and their classical music. I mean. He was also 823 01:00:15,239 --> 01:00:20,920 telling me that like all his friends hate me and that they're you know, 824 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:25,159 like he's he's I guess, super establishment y, you know, DC type. 825 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:29,840 But I was like, that's a nice thing to hear. You don't 826 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,440 care, though, honestly, and that's the truth a little more nasl gaving 827 01:00:32,519 --> 01:00:37,639 because you can't really care and do this mm hmm. Or if you do 828 01:00:37,719 --> 01:00:38,639 care, you're not going to be good at it. No, I kind 829 01:00:38,639 --> 01:00:42,079 of care, but like in the way you shouldn't, which is I kind 830 01:00:42,079 --> 01:00:45,559 of like it, Like I think there's a point of pride by being disliked 831 01:00:45,559 --> 01:00:50,159 by the right people, oh one hundred percent. I used to see reporters 832 01:00:50,199 --> 01:00:52,679 and they would be kind of nervous that people wouldn't like them. And I'm 833 01:00:52,679 --> 01:00:53,880 like, this guy's not going to be good at this, But maybe he 834 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,119 is. Maybe he's running NBC now, I don't know. I should look 835 01:00:57,159 --> 01:01:01,679 into it. Anyway, that was a discussion I look forward. So next 836 01:01:01,679 --> 01:01:06,239 week is the eclipse, so I look forward to hearing about that. So 837 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:07,599 I'm big lovers of freedom and anxious feel for