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and welcome to the show. I hope you're all doing good. I'm Nick
Hunter and you're listening to the UFO Chronicles podcast. Tonight we have the pleasure
of Hollywood actress Camille Harmon and she comes to us from Los Angeles and Camille
will be sharing her abductions that occurred in the mid nineties that involved fetus removal
implants and the connection to the my Lab's Black Projects. Camille is a member
of mufon and wrote for UFO Magazine under Don and Vicki Eckler, as well
as public speaking at UFO conferences. She is involved in documentaries and is the
founded member of the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance. Camille is up next, but first,
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much appreciated. Now on with the show. Hello, Camille, Welcome to
the show. Thank you. I'm so excited. Thank you for coming on
today and you'll call in from Los Angeles, California. Yes, I am
La La Land with the Santa Anna Wins blowing seventy miles an hour today.
It's been rough, a rough day, Okay. Now, Camille, you
have some experiences you're going to be sharing with us. Would you like to
start the beginning, please, ma'am. Yes, I will gladly start at
the beginning, although I don't know if it's really the beginning, but I
can tell you it's when I came into the awareness of this phenomena in my
life. Was in nineteen ninety five. I was about what was I twenty
nine years old, living in New Orleans at the time, and I had
finished graduate school, getting my master's in theater at the University of New Orleans.
And I had a boyfriend who was an actor. We were both hot
stuff in New Orleans, and we had decided to move to LA after being
in a production of Richard IID and having a great time. He was playing
Richard I was Lady Anne, and we thought, let's go to LA and
take on the world. So we did that, and we drove to LA
with the U haul towing the car behind us and we had our dog with
us, and we spent a night in Sedona. Actually we went camping along
the way, so that was kind of weird. Maybe something happened there that
started this whole ball rolling. So right before we had taken off on our
trip, I had been compelled. I'm one of those people you hear about
who was compelled to buy Whitley Streeber's book on the shelf at the bookstore.
And this happened in about August of ninety five, right before we've moved in
September, and I had seen this book Breakthrough, and I knew a little
bit about Whitley Streeber, and I just saw that alien face on the cover
of this hardcover book and I was like, oh my god, I have
to get this book. See what this guy is writing about now, because
I knew he had an earlier book, Communion, but I hadn't read it.
And so I read this book and it blew my mind and really introduced
me to the world of UFOs and I was hooked. I was like,
oh my god, this is like the most important thing I've ever read,
and it just really expanded my mind. So now we're in la and we're
settling into our house that we were renting, a beautiful house in Silver Lake
with a great view of the sky. I remember actually walking up the steps
and looking at the view from the living room with the landlord and saying,
oh my god, this window is like perfect for seeing UFOs. Of course,
I don't know why I said that, but I did. And I
had an agent, I had a job, I had my sag card.
I was so excited to just begin my new life acting in La, you
know. So everything was going great. But then I started having all these
weird physical symptoms in my body of being pregnant. And I had sore breast,
I had anxiety, I had heartburn. And I'd never been pregnant before
that I know of. But I had no menstrual cycle. And I was
taking the pill at the time very regularly. And I I remember in the
past, I, you know, if I was ever late on my cycle,
I would just go to the drug store and get a pregnancy test and
take a pregnancy test and ease my mind to go, oh good, I'm
not pregnant. Great. But I didn't do that, Like I kept waiting
and waiting and waiting, and I had I went months without any menstrual cycle.
And I remember thinking to myself, Oh, it's just stress. It's
just because I moved. You know, sometimes that happens, right, And
so in December. So we had been in there September, October, November,
December, and we were walking our dog Opal one day in the neighborhood
and she saw these squirrels run up a palm tree and was barking at the
top of the palm tree where they had a nest up there. And we
were looking at that, and above that in the sky was a UFO,
my very first UFO, and it was this black thing, very high altitude.
I couldn't quite make out the shape, but it had like a shimmer
around it, like it was black and maybe a triangle. I'm not one
hundred percent, but it had a shimmer around the edge. And my boyfriend
Eric saw it too, and I remember him teasing me and saying, oh,
you and your UFO books. You know, look, you're standing at
the uf phone. I was like, I think we are, and we
looked at each other, we made eye contact, and then we looked back
at it and it was gone. And I mean it was a bright blue
sky and no clouds and we had the palm tree for reference, and we
were looking everywhere, like where'd it go, where'd it go? It's gone?
And we got really excited, and I said, here, take the
leash. I'm going home. I'm gonna call it in, I'm gonna report
it. So I went home and I was on the phone with the guy.
There was a phone number the phone book like UFO hotline, and I
called and it was move On. And I talked to this guy Bill,
and I told him about the UFO and I don't know how far we got
into the report, but you know, I told him what I saw and
and he said, oh, we have these monthly meetings by the way,
if you want to come, And I was like, oh, yes,
I'm there, tell me where I'll be there. So at the same time,
in December of ninety five, I had this weird night when I Eric
was in the living room watching a David Lynch movie that I didn't feel like
watching because I knew it would be gross, and I was sleeping alone,
and I had this attack of sleep proalysis. And I had had that before
in my life, but I this time it was really scary because I heard
a voice say my name in my would seem to be from my left side,
like an electronic sounding voice that just said my name, that's all it
said. It said Camille like a robot or like a computer generated voice.
And then I had an image of a gun pointed out, like a flash
image of a gun pointed at me, and I was like, okay,
what the hell was that. It was terrifying because I couldn't move, And
later on, when Eric was in the bed with me sleeping, it happened
again the same night, and I remember coming out of the paralysis, and
this time I didn't have any weird audio visual thing, but I came out
of the paralysis. I was moaning, you know, as I broke out
of it, and it woke him up, and I remember him asking me
like, well, are you okay? And I was crying. So I
in January, my menstrual cycle came back, by the way. But then
I started going to these moof On meetings and I saw Kim Carlsberg speak and
she blew my mind because she had a book out that darryl Anka, who
channels Bishar, had illustrated, and she was in showbiz as well as a
set photographer on Baywatch and she was living with this guy who was like the
director or producer or something of Baywatch, and she had this great life,
but then she started having these abductions in Malibu at their house or Pacific palace
haads, I can't remember, think Malibu and this whole thing, you know.
And I just I was so blown away by her story and her emotion.
And I checked out her book at the back table, and it had
a checklist in the back that was like, you know, you may have
been abducted if and it had all these things on this list. And I
was reading this list and I was like, oh my god, I've had
that, and I've had that, and I've had nose bleeds as a child,
and I've had all these weird things on the list. And I was
shaking, and I just knew. I was like, oh my god,
I think I'm one of these people. And I was introduced to Barbara Lamb,
who's a hypnotherapist for this problem. And I said, Barbara Lamb,
Hello, nice to meet you. I want to make an appointment to do
a regression with you. Please about this night in December when I had these
weird sleep proalysis attacks and saw UFO and let's do it. So we did.
Had two incidents we investigated. Okay, the very first incident we investigated
was not that night. Actually it was years ago, I think, like
around nineteen ninety one, when I was living in Richmond, Virginia, sleeping
at this dorm room when I had this weird dream in my memory. I
had this weird dream and in the dream, I was in a mansion with
a film crew. I was part of the crew. I was walking through
this rock star's house like some generic rock star with long hair. He was
leading us through his house through these various rooms, and he was like,
Okay, this is the studio, and this is the living room. And
then he goes, oh, and this is the Satanic ritual room. And
I looked in this room and there was like an altar and a you know,
it was like black and red or whatever. I don't know. I
can't remember the room very much, but there was a there was a mounted
taxidermy goat head on the wall, and I remember the rest the film crew
kept walking and I stayed in the doorway of that room and I said to
the room, to the general room, I said in my dream, I
said, I dare you to make yourself known to me. That's what I
said in my dream. And all of a sudden in the dream, the
goatthead came alive and started making noise, you know, goat noise. It's
so scary. And at that moment, I felt this feeling in my solar
plexus area of my body that my soul or my life force was being sucked
out of me at a rapid rate, like I was gonna die. And
I just it all happened so fast, and I said stop, in the
name of Jesus Christ. I was like in this realm, I don't know
where I was no longer in that room. I was like in this spacetime
realm when that happened. And I said stop in the name of Jesus Christ.
And it stopped, and I woke up and I heard wind chimes in
this dorm room, you know, like outside, and it was like,
what the hell was that. It was the most terrifying thing. So anyway,
we targeted that initially in the regression because I was curious about that too.
And I did get being standing around me in this room with some kind
of a tube stuck in my chest, and all I could see were their
eyes and they had these, you know, goat eyes or reptile eyes.
They had weird irises. So that was a really scary thing. But then
we targeted that night in December ninety sixth and I had this terrifying memory of
a typical alien abduction. Right, I'm in my bed, I'm frozen,
I can't move, and this light appears over me, this blue light that
was like a turquoise blue, and it was just really solid light. It
wasn't like a normal spotlight that flares out. It was like a column of
light. And it hit me and I curled up into a fetal position in
my memory, and I went through the ceiling in this fetal position, and
I was terrified and I was like screaming up bah. But I didn't see
a ship though. Okay, this is where it gets weird. So I
go through the ceiling. And then the next thing I remember is I'm in
this I'm on a table in a misty room. I can't see any walls
or anything. There's just a misty white light everywhere, and I'm terrified and
I'm saying, everybody's looking at me. Everybody's looking at me. And Barbara
says, who is looking at you, and I said, I don't know,
and she's she had to make me look around. She goes, well,
look around and see if you see anything. And I looked to my
left and I saw this row of being standing there like I don't know how
many, there were more than three. They all looked the same they had
They were white. They had white robes on with high collars, they had
long sleeves, they had white, big white heads, the big black eyes,
and they had something at their chest area that was like a triangle in
a circle, some kind of emblem thing. And they were all standing next
to each other with their arms down, their really long arms, and I
was just terrified. And she was like, you know, what do they
want? What's happening? Because you know, you're just laying there screaming,
right, and the hypnotherapist has to like guide you through it because you're so
emotional, you're not talking, and she doesn't know what's happening, so she
has to say things like, Okay, now, what's happening. So I
said to her, I said to Barbara, I said, they're telling me
I have a baby and they want it. And I was just freaking out.
So then my legs went apart and no one was touching them, and
I felt really afraid because my body was moving, not in my control.
And then there was a being I could not see between my legs with a
flash of this like gynecological instrument, and I knew that this being was gonna
put that in me, and I was freaking out, and she said,
you can go above your body and remember it from above if that makes you
feel less afraid or whatever, you know, more control of the memory.
So I like floated up above to watch it. And this thing that I
could not see, this being that I could not see, put this thing
in this instrument in me and took it out. And there was something in
the instrument through the slats that I could see that was like a little pink
something. I cannot tell you what it looked like. I don't know if
it was human or part human. It was very tiny, and the being
walked out of the room with it, and I remember feeling this horrible grief,
and I was so bereft. I was like crying and saying, they
didn't even let me see it, and they just left and I was just
in agony in I mean, I must have lost two or three pounds in
this regression, just crying and my teeth were chattering, and it was just
utter terror, and it blew my mind. So I mean, what do
you do with that? You know? She gives me this little cassette tape
with this horrible event on it, and I go home to my poor boyfriend
and I sit him down and I make him listen to it. And he's
hearing all this screaming and the teeth chattering and the wailing and and I mean,
he looks at me like, holy crap. I mean, what you
know, what's going on? What happened to my girlfriend? Or what didn't
happen to my girlfriend? And my girlfriend's crazy or what like. He didn't
know what to believe. You know, it's so depressing because you feel like
it felt so real, and yet when you try to share it with someone,
they don't know what to make of that, you know. And we'd
been dating a long time years, and he was like, oh my god,
this is horrible. So and then it just got worse because I was
so obsessed and I was so talkative. And then it happened again. I
had another incident when he was out of town. He went back to New
Orleans for a film job of all things, and so he was gone for
a week and I was sleeping alone, and I I woke up three mornings
in a row in July of nineteen ninety six, and I saw my digital
clock saying four zero zero, and I was like, why am I getting
up? I didn't hear a noise, What's going on? And the third
morning of that, I got in the tub to shave so I could go
to the beach and meet my friend, and I saw this bleeding triangular puncture
array of like needle marks in the shape of a little triangle on my calf,
and I was like, damn it, that is some alien thing.
I've seen that in one of my books or some stupid show I recorded,
and I was looking for it and look in and look, and I found
it picture like that in my book, some book I had. And I've
since then met like five people. Four people have had that thing on different
parts of our bodies. So I did another regression. This time I went
to Yvonne Smith just to experiment with the other lady in town that was doing
regressions, and I got aliens again, and this time the variety factor was
I went out the window flat instead of through the ceiling in the fetal position,
same thing. The blue light floats me up, I turn, I
go out the window, and then boom, I'm on this table again.
I don't remember UFO. I don't remember any kind of I remember going through
the window and then I was on the table, but this time there was
one tall one with the white robes, and then there were these little,
three short ones with the kind of wrinkly heads. And I couldn't see their
whole bodies. I just saw the tops of their heads at these wrinkly heads,
and they were like gray or brown or something dark. And I remember
crying and saying, you made me scared of little kids, because you look
like little kids, but you're not little kids. And I was a teacher
at the time, and I had had this experience where these kids pulled me
toward a cabinet, like a bunch of them came up and grabbed my arms
and started walking me to this cabinet to get some paper, and like,
my body just went into this cellular memory of something similar to that happening,
and I was like, oh my god, I have to hold it together
in this classroom, because you know it was a real deja vu kind of
feeling. So when these these little guys had me on the table in this
hygnosis memory and I'm yelling at them, the one closest to my head put
its hand on my forehead and I was like, get your creepy hand off
me, little bastard, and I'm cussing it out. But then as it
put its hand on my head and started stroking my forehead, I like calmed
down. It like melted my anger and my panic and I just got really
chill. And I I mean not chill. I'm happy, but it calmed
me. And I just said, just do what you have to do and
let me go home. And I was sedated somewhat. So then the tall
doctory one with the white robes with the high collar and the big white head
with the big black eyes and the beautiful long white fingers, he's reached for
the ceiling. There's this stuff in the ceiling, like a wand on a
some kind of a tubing and a rack with some tips, and he picks
a tip and he puts one of these tips on the wand and he holds
my leg, my left leg. He's standing on my right but he reaches
across, he holds my left leg and he just pops that wand on my
leg real quick like, almost like a vaccination or something. You know.
That was all I remembered of that. I don't remember getting home, coming
back, anything, just that procedure. And I did later work with the
doctor and have the leg X ray. There was nothing in my leg,
so that's why it seemed more like a vaccination kind of a thing, not
a not an object being put in me. And then later I had gone
to the dentist to get all my fillings changed out for you know, for
the white, the nice white fillings, and I had all my old mercury
feelings taken out. I loved my new fillings except for this one tooth.
And I went to back to the dentist, a very nice dentist in Beverly
Hills, and I said, you know, well I told him this before
you even did the fillings. I said, hey, by the way,
I'm an alien abductchee and I'm doing some hypnotherapy. And I've read a lot
about this lately, and I've read that some people freak out in the dentist
chair because they have flashbacks. And I said, that's never happened to me
at the dentist before in my life. But I'm just telling you that,
you know. And I said, oh, and by the way, if
you ever find anything weird in my body, you have to tell me.
And he was like, okay, well, I read a book about Roswell,
so you know, I don't totally think you're crazy, okay. And
so anyway, he does all my feelings and then this one feeling hurt and
I go back and he's like, well, it looks good. You know,
the seal is good. I can redo it. So he redes the
filling and he finds this weird thing in my tooth that he had just worked
on. He had just worked on that tooth a couple of months before,
and now it's got this weird thing in it that he described as a spherical
or semi spherical object. And he wrote me a whole letter about it.
And he was drilling and drilling. It was really hard, and he said,
I can't get a chunk of this. It's powderizing, but it's super
hard and it's going down the drain, and what do you want me to
do? And he showed it to me in the mirror and he was tapping
on it with the little tool and I was like, oh my god.
I said, I don't know, just like you fill it up and I'll
you know, I'll decide later. So he filled it up and it did
fix the sensitivity. So I just kind of, you know, put that
in the back of my mind. Okay, that's not bothering me, so
I'm not going to think about it. And then other weird things I had
happened to my body. It had a dream where I was bitten by a
spider, and when I woke up and looked in the mirror, I had
this incision on my right shoulder, on the back of my shoulder where that
spider had bitten me in my dream, and I would get this weird feeling
where something was like a beasting would happen on that incision, and then I
would get a jolt of electricity down my arm and out my fingers and it
would just randomly happen. So I didn't know where that came from, and
I never did a regression to it. Another weird thing I had on my
left shoulder one day was a grid mark pattern, like a little square of
dots, and it wasn't like needle marks. It was more like, I
don't know what it was. It didn't last, it was temporary. The
same thing with the little slice. It's not there anymore, the triangle everything
in a way. But I got pictures, and so I did do a
regression to the tooth with Barbara Lamb again. I went back to her and
I thought I'd get aliens. You know, I was just guessing. But
what happened is I had what you know, what they call a military abduction
memory. So it was really terrifying. I did not have a blue beam
or anything like that. I just remember I was in an exam room on
a table. But this time I felt really drugged, not hyper alert and
immobilized, like with the aliens or whatever they are. But and I say
aliens very loosely, I don't know if these things are computer generated something,
if it's a CIA mind control trick, if they're demonic beings, if they're
a simulation being, I don't know. If they're I don't know what they
are. I don't know if they're from another dimension another time. I don't
know what they are. They don't have to be from another planet is where
I'm getting at, So they could be from under the earth. They could
be from Antarctica. I don't know where they're from. So anyway, in
this memory, on this table, it was a normal exam room. It
was not misty or weird or sci fi looking. It was just a normal
like a doctor's room. But there were two men in there, not aliens,
men, and they were in lab coats and they had black shoes and
khaki pants like some kind of military I just, you know, like navy,
not saying it was navy, just saying that's what they were wearing.
And the only word I got out of them in this memory was the word
trouble maker, aimed at me. And then they one of them put a
syringe through my cheek in my memory, and squirted something into my jaw at
this where this tooth was. So they did not do something dental. I
was not in a dentist's chair. I was on a flat table, and
they just put the syringe into my cheek from the outside and squirted something in
there. So then they put me on a gurney, rolled me down a
hall, and I ended up in this hangar that was seemingly underground because it
had a helicopter in it, and the ceiling retracted and so it was like
a dome kind of ceiling or some kind of ceiling that opened up. And
then there was a lot of daylight, and I remember how bright it was,
and I was in this helicopter lying down, and they flew up,
up, up and took me home to my Silver Lake neighborhood in Los Angeles
and landed in this field by my house, which is still a field.
I went there recently to see this field to see if anyone put a house
on it or anything, and it's still a field you can land a helicopter
on. And they said go home and take a nap, and then I
came out of the memory. So I don't remember walking home, going in
a door or anything like that. And when I came out of this regression,
I was so freaked out. And Barbara told me that it was the
first time she had ever had a regression with someone that had a military abduction
memory. This was in like nineteen ninety seven as well, so I was
terrified. I thought, oh my god, if this is real, this
is scarier than the aliens. I mean, aliens are scary, but paramilitary
something or other, covert something, something that's that's scarier to me. It's
more of a betrayal, and it's more like unnerving because then you think,
God, if I didn't remember this until I went digging around for it because
of this dental situation, if this is real, then you know what else
is real that they've done with me that I don't remember. And then you
get totally pair like what the hell? So that was very disturbing. So
I continued to go to meetings. I went to Roswell. I had a
great trip to the Roswell nineteen ninety seven to fiftieth anniversary. I saw doctor
Mac. Everybody was there, all the greats that a lot of them that
are no longer with us were there, and it was very fascinating. I
took some photos at White Sands with Don Waldrup. We had gone on this
trip together. He was ahead of move On LA at the time, and
he drove me there and I got UFOs, well, I should say,
not a classic UFO. I got light anomalies in these photos that we took
in White Sands where I was, I had drawn this big alien face on
the sand dune and I was yelling at this guy like I dare you to
come down here and we're just screwing around taking these pictures. After I drew
this big alien face, and in the pictures later when we developed them,
there were these white things, like little squiggly things right in my face where
I was looking in two photos, so I'm like yelling at the sky and
there's a white squiggly thing right in front of my face. And then I'd
look another way and I'm yelling at this guy and there's a white squiggly thing
in front of my face in another picture. So that was pretty wild.
And you know, at this time too, I was I was going to
a lot of different healers. I went to this lady, Marie Angelique Rafael,
and she did a prayer. She said, you agreed to work with
these beings on the soul level, and we can sever the contract. And
she prayed over me, and she prayed to Archangel Michael and Saint Germain.
And I went to a hyahuasca healer who had come to La from Peru,
and he did a healing on me that was very powerful. I felt like
I was getting an exorcism, and he went and threw up afterward, and
I remember saying, is that normal? Is that what? You, you
know. He goes, oh, yeah, I throw up at the end
of these clearings because of I'm taking on, you know, what was done
to you? And I said, well, what do you think was done
to me? And he goes witchcraft and I'm like, oh Jesus help me,
what next? So that I mean, I just kept going to these
different healers, like you know, to make it stop, and it did
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I was going to purshare channelings, I had talked to my relatives more.
I was trying to piece things together. I had an uncle who worked
for NASA. He was a mechanical engineer under Wernavon Brawn in the late sixties.
He worked on the Saturday and five rocket and all these really cool projects
at NASA over in Huntsville. And I had lived with him and his family
when I was a little kid for a year because I was kind of I
was born to a teenage mom, and I kind of got passed around a
little bit, and then I was adopted by my aunt. But I did
live with my uncle for a year in Huntsville, and so you know,
I was thinking, like, wow, I keep meeting all these abductees in
support groups and stuff, and so many of them have relatives in the military
or the space industry or you know, aerospace intelligence. Am I on a
list for this because of this whole biology for technology thing that, you know,
this alleged deal that was made back in the day. And I mean,
I'm not blaming my uncle. I'm just wondering if him being in NASA
had anything to do with me being abducted, not that he would even know
that. So of course I asked him about all this, and he said,
I don't know anything, and if it's true, it's an essay and
they're never going to tell you. I was like, thanks, But I
did have an interesting couple of stories visiting him in Huntsville later, you know,
as an adult when all this was happening, And one time I remember
going there around two thousand some point ish. I went there a few times,
I'm trying to remember the years, and I went to the gift shop
at the Redstone Arsenal where they had the Space Center, and they had all
this NASA stuff you could buy. But when I went there on this particular
time, they had all these alien things you could buy at the gift shop,
Like they had T shirts. I bought a T shirt. I bought
like a plastic cup with a straw with an alien on it. They had
these figurines. They had a whole wall of figurines. It was like,
these are the Nordics, these are the Grays, these are Reptilians, these
are the Pleiadians. It was like little little figurines you could buy, and
I remember just being blown away. And then I went back there a couple
of years later, like maybe two thousand and two or something, and I
went to the same gift shop and there was nothing alien. There was not
one image of an alien on anything in the It was all NASA. And
I remember thinking, oh my god, that's really trippy, Like what if
they were going to do disclosure and then they changed their mind or something.
That's how my brain works, Like I was just trying to figure that out.
Why would they take all the alien stuff away from the store. So
another military person I met. I met this guy, Michael Younger through my
friend Richard Saraday, who was a journalist. Oh and I started writing for
UFO magazine in two thousand. From two thousand to two thousand and four,
I wrote for UFO magazine. I was covering the MOUF on meetings and writing
other articles, and it was really fun because I got to meet all these
experts. And Richard Sarday, who was a UFO journalist and podcaster, introduced
me to this guy Michael Younger, who was supposedly in the Navy but also
was like Delta Force or some kind of like special ops something or other guy.
And we had this very secret meeting in a restaurant and he listened to
my story and he said, yeah, you're the real deal, and he
gave me a code name and he called me angel Fish and I thought that
was weird. And he wouldn't tell me why, but I said, why
is the Navy involved in this? And he said, well, the Earth
is two thirds water? And I was like, hmm, good point.
Now, with what I know about UFOs coming out of the oceans and lakes
and things, now that that's not as surprising to me what he said.
So, you know, I just I have a knack for meeting people that
tell me very interesting things. When I was acting, I would be on
set and I would talk freely. I would talk at parties It mortified my
boyfriend. He was like, Ah, can't you just not talk about this
at parties? It's so embarrassing. It's like you're a born again Christian or
something, and which was funny because later I became a born again Christian,
but that was later. So I would talk. You know, I'm a
big mouth. I'm a communicator, and but I would get these amazing stories
that other people would tell me because I opened my mouth first. Right.
So I'm on set one day in this trailer with a bunch of girls and
bikinis and we're on this night shoot of a beach party down at the beach,
and so they had us in this waiting this like RV. We had
to hang out in there so we wouldn't freeze to death until they needed us.
And I'm talking about, you know, UFOs and stuff, and this
girl says to me, oh my god, I know what you're talking about.
Let's go talk over there. So we go down the hallway and she
says, let me tell you the story. She said, I grew up
in Maryland and my dad worked for the NSA. He was very high up.
And I was like, oh my okay, keep talking. And she
said okay. So he took me camping when I was a little girl,
and we're looking up at the stars, sitting around the campfire, and he
says to me, what if I told you that God was an alien and
this was all just a big experiment. And I was like, whoa,
that's really interesting. And I file that away in my brain. You know,
That's what I do. I hear all this wild stuff and I file
it away and just keep putting the pieces together. So eventually, you know,
I looked at my childhood. I was like, did this happen all
my life? Am I just like waking up to something that's you know,
are there more clues? And like I said, I had these very severe
nose bleeds as a child, which is a symptom, and I would wake
up with blood all over the pillow. I had to have my nose carterized
at the doctor. As a child, I had a lot of allergies and
respiratory illnesses. I had weird dreams. I had dreams about going into an
elevator that went underground. I had dreams about vampires things like that. Very
fishy and in my fears, like in my conscious life. As a child,
I was terrified of lizards and snakes. Of course, I lived in
Louisiana and we had those in the yard. Terrified of praying mantis's, terrified
of the slee stacks. On the Land of the Lost, which was a
Saturday morning show for kids, there were these reptilian creatures. I was terrified
of the creature from the Black Lagoon. So those are big red flags.
Anyway. I just think maybe I had stuff going on as a child,
but I was just not aware of it. All my fears were paranormal to
my general fears. And I remember seeing the Exorcist movie when I was like
thirteen, and it scared the hell out of me, you know. So
I had this big fear of being possessed. And I think maybe because she
levitated above the bed, maybe that was some kind of trigger. I don't
know. I was just so afraid of being possessed. And I was in
Catholic school. So I went to Arizona with my husband. Oh, I
ended up getting married. I gotta tell that story. So I went to
England. I went to see the crop circles in nineteen ninety eight and it
was amazing. I went by myself and I met up with Barbara Lamb,
and I wanted to see Sting's house because I was a Sting fanatic, the
singer, and he lives right in Wiltshire, England, near Stonehenge where all
the crop circles are. So I had this girl that was in the Sting
fan club bring me out there to find his house. He lives in this
big, gorgeous house out there, and I saw a Sting standing in his
driveway of all things. When this car went through the through the gate and
he was standing in the driver I was like, oh my god, he's
right there. So Barbara and I got together and she said, okay,
Camil, we're going to your first crop circle. And is it a horang?
She said, it just happened last night. So we drove to it
and it was kind of misty and drizzly and I walked into this thing and
it was huge, and later when we saw pictures of it from above,
they had nicknamed it the Stingray and it looked just like a stingray with a
big long tail that curled, and I thought that is too cool that.
You know, I'm obsessed with Sting and my first crop circle is the Sting
Ray. That was like a gift to me that was just too synchronistic,
and so I had this wonderful trip over there, and I had a fling
with a guy. You know. Of course, I came back home to
my boyfriend and I was like, I'm sorry, but I had a fling
in England, and he was like, I'm so glad because I wanted to
break up with you, but I didn't want to be the bad guys.
So we broke up and we were relieved, but you know, we still
cared about each other and we ended up going to each other's wedding, so
it all worked out. But anyway, I met this guy here, Jeff,
my husband, in nineteen ninety eight, at a gas station in Malibu
and I had to get gas. I was leaving a UFO Field Investigator training
meeting at the beach and I was heading to a rehearsal and it was nighttime
and I had to stop and get gas in Malibu, and I chose this
gas station that was right near the gate to the colony where Sting has a
house, So that's why I picked that gas station. Anyway, I start
talking to this guy next to me getting gas in his motorcycle because he asked
me about my bumper sticker that said I Love England and he said what part
of England do you love? And I was like, you know, kind
of rolling my eyes, I said, Wilt sure. I was just there
looking at crop circles and I thought, he's not gonna know what I'm talking
about. And he said, oh, my friend Jim Delatoso showed me videos
of UFOs making crop circles. What got you into UFOs? And I'm like,
uh, they got into me. I was like, you know,
Jim Delatoso, I was really impressed because he analyzed his UFO footage and he
was living in Phoenix and he was part of the Phoenix Lights analysis and so
we started talking and he had had my this guy the gas station, my
husband. He had had all these UFO experiences. So we swapped business cards
and then we got together and had a date and here we are. So
that was nineteen ninety eight and we're still together and we have a son who's
grown. And Jeff had a lot of experiences with UFOs two and still does.
He saw two in September in Malibu this year driving around on his motorcycle.
He saw them at night and they were different. They were different objects,
different shapes and everything. Anyway, so you know that happened. We
got married, and then we in two thousand and five when Hurricane Katrina hit
New Orleans. I was so traumatized. I said, I don't want to
live in la I'm afraid it's going to fall into the ocean. I don't
know, I just got really afraid. I had kind of quit acting because
we had a son and he was little, and you know, I was
just not into acting. So we packed up and moved to Tucson and we
lived in Tucson for ten years, and it was really nice. It was
very beautiful and inexpensive, and but you know, had a lot of culture
and fun things to do. So we enjoyed it. And they had a
very active move on and a lot of UFO history there, and they had
the Vatican Observatory based at the University of Arizona, and a lot of observatories
and just a lot of famous Ufology people live there. Wendel Stevens lived there.
He would go to the UFO meetings and you know, he wrote all
these books about Billy Meyer and the Paadians and stuff. And I remember asking
him, like, do you trust the Plaandians and he said no, and
I said, oh, how interesting. Why and he said because they've said
things about the future that didn't come true. And I was like, okay,
well, there you go. That's a good reason. And Colonel Robert
Dean lived in Arizona. Jim Nichols, the artist illustrator, lived in Arizona.
So I was friends with all these people and it was exciting and I
had a great time there. But then we got bored and we moved back
to la in twenty fifteen. Oh by the way, while it was in
Arizona, I had a major t tour in the fact that in remember twenty
twelve, when everybody was, oh, the end of the Mayan calendar,
the whole world's going to change, and we were all excited, and then
kind of it felt like nothing happened. Well after that, I had this
feeling, I don't know. We went up to Sedona, and I remember
going to see the there's a big church, like a big modern Catholic church
built into the hill there, and we went in there and there was this
statue of Saint Michael the archangel with the slaying a dragon, and I just
was very moved by that, and it reminded me of me of my childhood
and going to Catholic school. I went to this really beautiful old school in
the country Louisiana with Salma Hayak by the way, in eighth grade. And
it was called Academy of the Sacred Heart. And it's a very old order
of nuns, the Sacred Heart Nuns from France that had settled this school in
eighteen twenty one, I think, and it was gorgeous. I only went
there for seventh and eighth grade. It was a girls' school. It was
a boarding school, but I was a day student. Salma was a boarding
student. But it was so it was so beautiful and I had my horse
there. We had an equestrian program. It was just really great. And
then I went just wanted to go to school with boys in high school and
I left there, but it really made an impression on me. And we
had nuns for teachers and they were really nice. And so anyway, I
had been writing my book about this whole alien thing and I had kind of
come to the end and I still didn't know what it was. And I
got really sad and I was like praying, and it was like God,
can you just reveal to me what this is. I can move on with
my life. I don't want to lead anyone astray. And then these books
came my way. First it was Nigel Kerner's book Gray Aliens and the Harvesting
of Souls, and I read that book and it had this whole section on
the Shroud of Turin and how if it was real and Jesus had turned into
a light being and risen from the dead and had left this imprint on this
shroud that they said had to do with radiation, that it meant he,
you know, he went into a different state. It just really moved me,
and I had this whole born again Jesus experience. And it was wild
because my husband had told me, he said, you're gonna have this spiritual
awakening, and I was like, I have those all the time. I
was very new age right when we were dating. And he said, no,
something big, and I was like, okay, whatever. And then
that happened right a few months later, and he was looking at my astrology.
Okay, Jeff, my husband, Jeff Harmon is an astrologer, like
a professional, amazing astrologer. So he was saying that because he saw that
in my chart. So when I had this whole born again thing, he
was like, wow, I didn't know it would be that. That's pretty
wild, you know. And so I started going back to church. I
got confirmed all this stuff. I was going to the Latin Mass. It
was really beautiful, really intense, and I was in my happy place.
I mean, he was like, how can you go into this little box
of doctrine and be happy when you used to be so open minded? And
I said, I think aliens are demons and I'm done. I'm done with
it. I just want to go to Mass. It's so beautiful. And
I would go to Mass and I would just cry and cry. And then
I found out I wasn't in a state of grace and I couldn't have communion
and all this, but I would still go. And you know, I
was just in this difficult situation of not being able to be a good Catholic
because of my marriage and stuff. But I was I was really into it.
And I was reading all these books about the saints and that their mystical
experiences, and there were so many parallels to the whole UFO thing, and
it fascinated me because I'd never been taught all that in Catholic school, because
I went to Catholics after Vatican two, when it was like really kumbaya,
and they didn't teach you anything. They didn't teach us the Rosary, they
didn't tell us any of the cool supernatural stuff about the Saints. It was
really not a good religious class in the late seventies early eighties. So anyway,
we decided to move back to LA and left Tucson. Came back to
LA in twenty fifteen and I started acting again and I was still going to
church. I was not into UFOs. Started acting again. I did really
well in my acting career and it really took off, and I was in
an Oscar winning film called Vice with Christian Bale and Steve Carell. I was
in Shameless. I was having a good old time, you know, acting
in my late forties and early fifties, and it was really fun and it
still is. I mean, I'm still an actress. It's just been a
hell of a couple of years. So no UFO stuff happening. But then
I started going to meetings again here and there. But even if I'd go
to meetings UFO meetings, I would like argue I'd say, what if alien
you're demons? No, no, no, no, And everybody was like,
whatever, you know. They just the UFO scene is not into the
aliens of demons theory at all, so but I would still go once in
a while. And then really when I started researching Tartaria stuff, which is
a whole subculture about history and looking at history in a different way, and
it's about were there previous resets? Are we in a controlled world where there
is a non human presence that is keeping a lid on a certain narrative of
history and creating another where we have had these previous resets in our in our
history, And it's I don't want to get too much into it. You
can go look into it. But it made me question history and question reality,
and question the origins of architecture around the world and things like that,
and it just really opened my mind again. And I was watching a lot
of podcasts about Tartaria, and then I decided to go to back to Arizona
for the International UFO Congress in the fall of twenty twenty two in Phoenix area,
and I had such a great time. Oh my gosh, I saw
all my old UFO friends there, Melinda Leslie and just all these people like
Lynn Katai was there everybody, and I was like, oh man, I'm
so back in, and so much had happened that I didn't know about,
like the Davis Wilson thing, and all this stuff had happened that I was
just not aware of at all. And I got hooked. I was like,
Okay, I'm back in. This is just too exciting. And I
got so excited to be back into it. I felt alive in a different
way. And it wasn't like I was totally throwing out the aliens re demons
thing. I just opened up again to the possibility that it wasn't that simple.
So I started doing interviews. I got invited to speak at UFO Con
up in San Francisco, went up there, did that. That was great.
I met Chris Bledsoe in twenty twenty three, in about February when he
came here for Alien Con, and I really connected with him and his book.
And what I liked about him was he had this religious background, but
he had this mystical experience and he was seeing it as a positive thing,
and so I thought that was interesting to me. I reconnected with Von Smith
with Rebecca Hardcastle Wright. I worked with her in some coaching. I discovered
Caroline Corey and all of her work and her great documentaries. I went to
see her in some conferences and then I was at church. I was like,
I go to church. It's in a tent. It's a long story,
but during COVID we had to move into a big tent in the parking
lot and we got so big that we couldn't fit in our old building.
So we still have church and a tent. So I was sitting in this
spot where I could see the sky, and it was before Alien Con and
I was nervous about going up there to do this talk. And I said,
I had my camera and I said, okay, this is what I
need. I need this before I go do this and get back into this
world. Officially, I said, if you are working with any good beings
in the UFOs, I need a sign. Please please give me a sign.
And as soon as I made this prayer, I look up and I
see these four white orbs. I think they're orbs. Maybe they're not,
maybe they're birds. I don't know. They were very very high up in
the clouds, come out and start flying around each other. And I got
a few seconds of it on video and I was like showing everyone, you
know, and people were pretty blown away. Some people thought it was sphear,
some people thought it was birds. Chris Bledsoe looked at it and told
me he thought it was angels. So I don't know what it was.
But to me, it was a sign because the way I figure it,
even if it was birds, the symbol of the Holy Spirit is the white
bird, and so I was like, even if it's white birds, it's
still a sign to me that Jesus was saying, yes, I am working
with some good beings into UFOs. And that's how I interpreted it. So
I could be wrong, but that's how I interpreted it. So the latest
thing that happened to me was Chris had told me Camille, they're angels and
they've been working with you since you were a little girl. Okay, Now
that made sense to me because I had had a regression with Barbara years ago
that was very wonderful. It wasn't scary. And what it happened was is
I had in nineteen ninety eight before I went to England, or maybe ninety
seven. I know I had it before I went to England because I told
someone in England about it. But I had this longing. I kept catching
myself saying things like oh, humans, this human's that, and I felt
like I was aligning myself with some beings that were not here, and I
identifying with them in some way. And I went to Barbara and I said,
Barbara, I had this longing for these beings and I don't remember.
Can we target that? And she said yeah, So she puts me under
hypnosis, and I had this memory of this white hand with the white robe,
like touching me through my crib when I was a child, and then
taking the hand away from me, and I felt all this separation, anxiety
and crying. And then the next memory I had was it was like I
was a sofa being stuffed into a pillowcase and I had like a panic attack
and I was screaming. I was screaming, I don't want to be in
this body. It's so weak, and I just felt like I had been
stuffed into a body and I was panicking, and she said, well,
then go to a place where you felt good. Go there, you know,
And so then I pop out and I'm out in space and I'm I'm
a blue light. I'm just a blue light, like a sphere of blue.
And I look out across space and I see my friendly Cole and my
friend John, and they are blue lights. And I was crying with recognition
of seeing my friends in this form. And then I looked and there was
Earth spinning, and it seemed to be spinning quickly, and it was causing
me a lot of anxiety and dread, like being on the edge of a
diving board. And I said, I don't want to go to Earth.
It's spinning, it's spinning. And Barbara said, why do you have to
go to Earth? And I said, I don't know. And she said,
what asks someone why you have to go to Earth? And I asked.
And then these light beings appeared, these white light beings that were like
huge and not spheres. They were more like human form with light all around
them so that I couldn't see their faces, but they had arms and legs
and some kind of white robes of light. And I was crying with pure
ecstasy in the presence of these things, and I felt this meshing with them,
and I was I was saying things like they're my home, they're my
family, that's why I wear a white robe. I had a white bathrobe
I was talking about, and I just felt this total oneness, this ecstatic
pure love and pure knowledge melding with these things, these these angel being whatever
they were, I don't know what they were. They were so beautiful and
energy wise. And when I asked them why did I have to go to
Earth, they said the Earth needs you and I said why and they said
to fight evil. And I was like, oh, okay, what am
I supposed to do? And they said tell people that we exist and that
we love them. And I said, okay, how am I supposed to
do that? Like lecture about it or they said no, in your acting
and I was like okay, but you know, most stuff that gets made
in Hollywood is crap. So they said, don't worry. We will set
it up so that you meet people and make projects worthy of your time.
And I was, okay, that sounds amazing. Please, yes, please
do it. And they gave me this image of this light coming from a
central source through the universe through them, and then they would point this light
with their arms at Earth and it would come out of their arms toward us
on Earth. But we were walking around with umbrellas and they couldn't reach us,
and they said, We're always here sending you this love. You're just
all walking around with umbrellas, and it was this really beautiful image. So
I had so much joy in that regression, and I kept pushing them on
the acting. They said, the reason you have so many different jobs.
All my other jobs, like I was catering and substitute teaching and doing all
these weird jobs. I was fux finishing, I was a painter. They
said, it's because you like talking to people and telling them your story,
but you'll be able to do it on a much bigger scale in your acting.
And it was like, okay. So it was weird because when I
came out of the regression I was very happy. And my next acting job
was actually a short film in which it was called The Encounter and it was
about a man who had an angelic encounter and I played his wife. So
that was really neat that it was the very next film I did was about
an angelic encounter. And then I don't know, I mean, I hope
that I will do more projects that are, you know, beneficial to humanity,
because not everything I do is that way. Obviously, but that is
my goal, you know, and so we'll see how that goes. I'm
in this new thing right now that just got formed. It's called Hollywood Disclosure
Alliance, and it's a networking group for UFO experiencers and experts to work with
Hollywood producers, directors and writers and others, you know, publicist agents,
things like that to create content, fiction and nonfiction, content that pushes disclosure
and helps the world understand this phenomenon from stories based in truth that can be
brought to this networking group. Right So, I'm straddling both sides, like
I'm an actress and a UFO experiencer. And we had our inaugural lunch.
It was awesome last month at Musso and Frank, this famous restaurant it's one
hundred years old in Hollywood. I was sitting next to this producer who produced
Hacksaw Ridge, and I was like, oh my god. There was like
some really big people in here. It was so exciting because you know,
being an abductee or an experience or whatever you call yourself, it can be
so incredibly lonely. And even if you're in support groups, which I was
and I still am, where you meet others, and you talk about all
this and share stories in the general public and with your family and your old
friends that you had before all this, it can be so isolating and lonely,
and you can feel like the biggest weirdo in the family. And it's
just been hard. And now that disclosures really ramping up, there are so
many people like me that are so happy to be able to talk about it
more freely without being afraid for the you know, the their income, their
job security, all that kind of thing. Like I was so excited to
see Goldie Han come out and talk about her alien experiences. And I have
the same birthday as Goldiehan. And then fran Dresher, who's the head of
SAG, who played the Nanny, that actress, she had a UFO experience
and was abducted. So if the head of SAG and if Goldie Han can
talk about aliens, then so can I. And I told my agent and
I told my manager. I said, look, you know, I was
talking about this in the nineties and doing interviews and then I kind of stopped.
And now I'm going back and I'm going to be doing interviews and documentaries
and just trying to be a piece of the puzzle and be helpful in this
whole disclosure thing, because people need to be able to feel comfortable to talk
about it. I have the advantage of being in a career where you know,
as long as you're responsible and you show up and do the work,
they're pretty forgiving about weirdness, right Like, look at Shirley McLain, look
at you know, all these crazy actors who've had drug and alcohol problems.
I've never had a drug and alcohol problem, So you know, I show
up, I'm professionally, I do my job. It's just very exciting and
I'm really looking forward to the immediate future. I think this is all definitely
heading to a giant crescendo of knowledge and information, and it may be scary
as hell, like what we learned might scare the hell out of us and
might really cause some problems in society for a while as we go through this,
but I mean, bring it on. I'm so over the secrecy and
the wondering and i just want to know what is really going on. And
I want justice for those of us who have had military shenanigans or whatever pseudo
military I mean, I say military, and I shouldn't say that, because
I don't know if it's really military or some other corporate security something or other
operation. I did ask my Navy boyfriend once. I had an old boyfriend
who was in the Navy, and I lived with him one summer in Jacksonville,
and I remember him taking me to see the F eighteens because he worked
on the F eighteens and this was before nine to eleven when you could bring
your girlfriend on the base and everything. And so I called him up and
I said, Steve, Oh my gosh, Okay, I gotta ask you
because I just found out I'm an alien abductee and I just met this Navy
guy who's telling me the Navy's involved, and so do you know anything like
why did they take people? Like who did they pick? Like? Why
me? And he said to me on the phone, he said, all
I know is they take people who are very pure. And I thought that
was such a weird thing to say. What did that mean? He didn't
elaborate, and you know, he and I were lovers. I know he
didn't mean sexually pure. I don't know what he meant, but it was
a very weird thing for him to say. And you know, all of
us that have this experience, we go through that ym why me, and
we try to figure it out. Is it because of my blood type?
Is it because of my DNA, my lineage? You know, I had
read that a lot of people of Irish descent have this, and I have
Irish descent. You know, you hear about the negative blood type I have
that I have the rahe negative blood type. So I don't know. All
I know is it seems to be from my mother's side of the family.
I asked my mom once if she'd ever had any weird things and she said,
well, I was meditating once and I felt these two claws on my
shoulder and I was like, okay, that counts. That's helpful. Thank
you for that information. And then I had the NASA uncle, her brother,
and then my grandmother that I adored, who partially raised me. When
she was in the hospital when she was really old, she saw aliens in
the hospital and got so upset they had to call her Presbyterian minister to pray
with her. And I remember the family got all mad at me and they
said, you should have never told her about your alien stuff, because now
she's hallucinating aliens At the hospital and I said, you know, I don't
know what that was. She was probably on medication. Maybe the veil was
lifted because of what drugs they had are on and she could see stuff.
I don't know, or maybe it wasn't drug induced, you know, but
I have this suspiciona'ge through my mother's side of the family. So who knows.
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ew is the x x X. I guess you know, I just wanted
to talk more about all these weird clues along the way, you know,
like that girl that said her dad worked for the NSA, and all that
I do know that I have this gift. People ask abductees a lot of
times, like do you have psychic abilities? Do you have the ability to
heal? People? Like? Did they activate some kind of an ability with
you? The only thing I've discovered about myself in that manner is I have
this ability to find other abductees in the room. We find each other and
we talk, and I can go to a party and find the person in
the room that's had this experience. And that has caused me to believe that
this experience is very common. Now, I don't know if that's my imagination,
because I just happened to vibrate towards the person in the room that had
the experience. It just seems to me like there are a lot of people.
Because I open my big mouth, I hear their stories back, and
they would have never told me their story if I hadn't said something first.
Another interesting thing, when I first went back to the church in Tucson,
this one church, not the Latin Mask, but this other one that I
had first gone back to, and I went to confession and I was telling
the priest everything in confession, and he told me to slow down and not
go so fast with my plans to you know, go back to church and
everything. And I remember wondering why he told me that, And then I
remember contacting this guy, brother, guy Consulmago at the Vatican Observatory in Tucson
and telling him, you know, my understanding that the Vatican was very interested
in the subject matter and that as an abductee, I had come to this
theory that aliens were demons and I wanted to go back to the Church and
all this, and he told me I was on the right track, which
is interesting because the Vatican has been very interested in all this. Now they're
an organization. They want self preservation and they're going to shape the narrative to
preserve themselves and their doctrine. You know. There's a very interesting book that
came out by doctor Paul Thigpen, who is a Catholic writer, and it
came out last year published by Tan Publishing, which is a Catholic publisher,
and it was all about the extraterrestrial reality and the Catholic Church. How does
the Church say about those do about this? It's a very good book.
Actually, I don't have the exact title, but I should have it.
But anyway, doctor Paul Thigpan th hig pn you can look it up.
So even though the Catholic Church has believed me its own problems with corruption and
you know, pedophilia and everything else, they have done a lot of wonderful
things and they are very open minded about the subject. I will say,
so, I guess they're like their perspective is, if there are aliens from
other planets, how do they fit into the redemption narrative? If Jesus redeems
the sinners on Earth who had original sin with Adam and Eve, how does
that apply to other beings on other worlds where they didn't have Adam and Eve
et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So that's a very interesting thing
to ponder. But there were mystics throughout time. Swedenborg, he wasn't Catholic,
but he was a mystic that talked to beings on other worlds. The
Mormons believe in other worlds. There are a lot of religions that incorporate beings
from other worlds, the Hindu religion, the Muslim religion. So I think
it doesn't have to totally destroy religion. But I think the religions are going
to have to assimilate this disclosure reality. Whether these beings are from other worlds
that are in space or other worlds that are in other dimensions. Either way,
they're going to have to deal with the non human entity reality that they
have the ability to categorize as angelic or demonic or something else, neflin whatever.
So I think the way religion handles this is going to be very interesting.
Another thing that happened in my childhood that made me think, Wow,
what an amazing synchronicity is. I had my first job at an ice cream
shop called Swanson's with a girl who was very smart, and her father was
a professor at the Universe of Southwestern Louisiana, where I eventually went to college
in Lafayete, Louisiana, and he was famous because he had discovered planet X.
This guy, her dad, John Matisse m at E s E.
And I knew that about him. This was in the eighties and I knew
that about him. I knew he was famous for that, but I wasn't
into aliens or space or anything back then. So now I think back and
I'm like, what if Planet X is coming. What if Niberu and all
that is happening, and what if these elites that are trying to wrangle us
into this tyrannical world, this wef transhumanist enslavement. What if they're doing that
because they know that something's coming, that they're trying to strategize for themselves and
take out a lot of us and slave the rest before it happens, Like
if it's a rogue planet, a comet, some kind of you know,
disaster related thing, extinction level event kind of a thing. So I don't
know, I don't know what's happening. All I know is that I went
to this girl, Mary Mattisa's house and her dad was John Matiz, who
discovered planet X. So I think that's really cool. So I just really
feel like my whole life has been putting this puzzle together, and I didn't
even know it until I look back. Another influential person I met was David
Ike in nineteen ninety seven. I guess he came to LA to speak at
an expo. I think it was the Whole Life Expo back then, and
I didn't know who he was, and I was volunteering there at a table
and he came up the stairs on this mezzanine level of the hotel, and
he had such a presence when he walked up the stairs, and I mean
he didn't even speak. He just entered the room and I was, oh,
my god, who is that person. It's like he had an invisible
army with him. And he went over to the speaker check in table and
I couldn't hear what was happening. But when he walked away, I went
over there and I said, who was that guy? Who was that guy?
And they said, David Ike. He's given a talk in such and
such a room. And I said, can I be the room monitor in
there? And they said okay, and they signed me up to be the
room monitor. So I was the one checking people's tickets or wristbands or whatever.
And I got to watch him do his presentation and he had this book
out and The Truth Shall Set You Free. That was the book he was
promoting at the time, and I was blown away by him and I got
the book and then you know, that blew my mind. So it was
about the Reptilians and all that. And then later I through UFO magazine,
I got to interview Arizona Wilder, who was one of the people David Iike
mentioned as being a survivor of Satanic ritual abuse. And she and I met
in this park in Malibu, Las Virgines Park and we sat at a picnic
table and I interviewed her, and I remember I was so scared of her
because of her story. It was just so terrifying, and I was like,
I don't really want to be alone with this poor lady in this park,
you know. I mean, I just I really didn't want her story
to be true, because if it was true, it was so terrifying.
I don't even think I wrote the article. I think I just interviewed her
and I wasn't brave enough, or maybe the magazine wasn't brave enough to do
the article. I've just met so many interesting people through this phenomena, living
here in LA and then when I was in Arizona as well. But we
will have to see how it all shakes out. I at this point,
I'm busy acting. I'm busy, you know, helping my husband with the
astrology business. And I still go to church once in a while, not
as regularly, and I still pray, and I just am waiting. I'm
waiting and I'm speaking. I'm looking for answers like everyone else, and I
really do think it's coming to a head. So I wish us all the
best. The latest experience I've had was Chris Bledsoe saying, Kamie, why
don't you just say, dear God, I'm willing to work with your angels
and see what happens. And so I went outside and I just looked at
the sky and I it was at night, and I was praying, Okay,
God, I'm I think I'm brave enough to work with your angels,
but not anything scary, just like the light beings. Please, and I
said, and I'm so scared. You can show up as a UFO or
come to me in my dreams, but if you come to me in my
face right here in the yard, I think I'll have a heart attack.
So please don't do that right now. And I heard this owl hooting,
and owls figure a lot in this phenomenon, as messengers and screen memories and
all kinds of things. That night, I went to bed and I was
trying to sleep, but I couldn't sleep because Jeff was keeping me awake.
So I went into the guest room and I was sleeping in there, and
I woke up from this dream. I was having a dream where something was
in the bed in the guest room with me touching my neck, poking at
my neck, and I thought, Oh my god, are they here?
And I was afraid, and I was too afraid to turn around. Look.
I was facing in the closet and the way they were touching me was
like a doctor, wasn't like sexual. And I said, oh, my
god, are you here to heal me? If you are, that's great,
And when you're done, could you go down the hall and heal Jeff.
You know I mean, because we're both you know, I'm in my
late fifties, he's in his early sixties. We got some ailments, nothing
big, but and then in this memory, I got brave enough to turn
around and look at whoever was touching my neck. And when I turned around,
I saw these two guys, like humans, with dark hair and beards,
and they were Caucasian. They stared at me blankly, like, with
no emotion. And then I came out of the memory, or I woke
up or whatever, and so I don't know what that was, but it
was weird. And I remember texting Chris the next day and saying, Chris,
do you think that was real? Because you know it was right after
I made that prayer, And he said, it does seem like it might
be real. Bea because you slept in the guest room, Like maybe they
caused the disturbance that made you go in the guest room so that they could
have you alone and work on you. I was like, yeah, maybe,
I don't know. It was weird anyway, So I don't know what's
in store for me. I'm coming out in a couple of documentaries this I
guess early twenty twenty four, one with Caroline Corey called Closure, and one
is a new show for the CW called The Alien Disclosure Files. You know,
I have some acting stuff on them going on as well. And then
I'm also going to be in a new show with Dan Akroyd on the History
Channel just as a reenactor. I got hired to do a couple of reenactment
segments on this new show called The Unbelievable with Dan ackroid They pick interesting subjects
that were mysterious and they reenact them. So anyway, I'm going to be
in a couple of those. But I just keep acting, and I know
that I'm booked in a series about fighting child trafficking, which is really awesome,
So I hope that that gets going soon because everything was on hold due
to the strike. So there are some things coming up that are amazing projects
that I'll be involved with if everything goes well and happens. I just keep
trying to do my mission here, which is to be a communicator. I
guess I just am going to use my acting and my speaking ability to tell
my story or be in projects that tell stories, you know, be useful
in that way, because that seems to be what I do. I don't
know what else to do. I don't have a science brain. I have
an artist brain. Fascinating stuff, Camille, Thank you so many strange connections.
Well, that's what I think is the most interesting. You know,
when we talk about military abductions. Now obviously it's known as My Labs Mill
Labs Military abductions, and a lot of time we're not really talking about the
military in general, but it's more to do of contractors and off the record
projects, right, because it is something which turns up time again in plenty
of my guests, and there is a very dark side to it. It's
interesting that you said about a dream that you had back in nineteen ninety one
at the rock Star House. Yeah, you don't remember if it actually was
a rock star or No. It wasn't any rock star that was an actual
person that I knew from pop culture or anything. It just seemed to be
a generic representation of a rock star. I wouldn't say that it was anyone
I would recognize as a person in real life. Yeah, that's kind of
what I was getting. It's just very strange that we have this connection with
the my labs, with the alien abductions, with the human abductions, and
we have this connection to Satanism, which is something which comes up time and
time again. It's very peculiar, and it's something which isn't talked about enough.
I don't think, you know, when people hear it, they kind
of making it up, making it up. But unfortunately, this is something
which happens, and it's been happening for a very long time. That's why
I bring it up, because even though I have no conscious memory of being
involved in anything like that, that one dream was so disturbing and it had
that physical effect on my you know, feeling like I was being attacked spiritually
through my solar plexus, and then you read about all this stuff going on
in the world and you're like, oh my god, that's really scary,
you know, and it seems to be real, and you know, you
hear rumors about all these things being related. That's what's scared me the most
about the my lab memory because it just when you bring in the human element,
it's just frightening to think that anyone could have control over your life and
compartmentalize your life in a way that you don't remember things, because that opens
up such a huge can of worms. It's terrifying, you know. When
it comes to aliens, something you can you can kind of work with,
but you're when you add in the human element, it seems to be that
they're taking so much more these people, which in these positions they should be
the one protecting you. Yeah, pay your tax dollars too, they're supposed
to looking after you, looking at the security. They seem to be doing
this on the nation's people. Yeah, it's scary because then of course it
brings into the whole mk ulture of mind control, and then that in turns
connects to child trafficking and in human trafficking. Yeah, exactly. And you
know, to me, I see the human trafficking problem as the greatest,
well one of there's so many now, it's like you can't even stack them
all in order of evil. But that's so massive. Oh here's another weird
thing that relates to that. Right. So I was going to this church,
the Latin Mass here in La at this church. We were in another
building now, in the tent, you know, But before that, we
were at the church in West Hollywood as kind of a guest organization in their
building. Okay. So the director of Sound of Freedom and the actor in
Sound Freedom who plays the wealthy guy who finances the sting operation in other words,
Alejandro Monteverde, who's the director, and Eduardo Veresteggi. I think that's
how you say his last name. He's the actor who's now running for president
of Mexico. Eduardo is They both were going to my church sometimes, and
I met them and talked about Sound of Freedom when they were filming it,
and I was so excited about it, and you know, I knew that
was real as a problem. I had been following Operation Underground Rescue, Tim
Ballard and all that, and I just I was so excited for them,
and then the movie took so long once they filmed it to come out.
You know, there were all these problems with getting it out into the world,
and I'm so happy when it finally came out. And I remember too,
this is a funny story, when I was doing when COVID hit and
everything shut down, right, I was onto that, Like I knew from
the beginning. I was like, this is some kind of scam, right,
I'm not afraid of this, and I wouldn't get there, you know
what. And I went out and I was I was like, I'm not
going to sit in my house and be afraid. I'm going to go work.
So I got a job doing door dash like delivering food, right because
I was like, I literally cannot sit in my house and do nothing.
I'm gonna go crazy. So I was delivering food to people in this nice
part of town, Thousand Oaks, and there are a lot of wealthy people
out there, and it's really pleasant and beautiful and you know, it's easy
to park and everything. So I knew Jim Cavizl lived out there. I
knew Gary Sonicsee lived out there, and I was like, you know,
my dream is I'm going to deliver some kind of food to Gary SNEeSe or
Jim Cavizel. That's gonna that's my goal while I'm doing this crazy job.
My gee. So one day I'm driving around delivering food and I see this
guy on the side of the road next to a motorcycle and he's talking on
this phone and I look. I mean, I drive and I look and
I'm like, oh my god, I'm god, My God, my god.
And it was Jim Cavizel. It was Jim Covizel standing on the side
of the road talking on the phone next to a motorcycle. And I remember
thinking that is too weird. And I went home and I googled. I
googled Jim Covizel in motorcycle and all these pictures came up, and sure enough,
he rides motorcycles and I was like, yep, that was him.
And then I ended up bringing a pizza to Gary Sinize's house. It was
like, see, I'm able to manifest meeting these people that I like,
I've met sting many times. Anytime I get really attracted to some person and
I want to meet them, I meet them. I've met Mel Gibson I've
met Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise, anyone that I met, Rutger Howard,
like Shirley McClain. All these people that I would have a thing for and
be very interested in, I would meet them. So it's just interesting.
The power of intention is real, and that's what I'm trying to learn,
is like to not be in fear and to change my vibration and all this
and you know, vibrate a better reality for myself. That's what I'm working
on. It's really hard because my nature is very detective like, and you
know, I'm always looking on dark stuff, but I'm trying to control my
thoughts. Like I have to balance all this dark stuff, right, I
mean, don't we all? Golly? So I have to go and like
listen to you know, positive music and go out in nature a lot and
stuff like that, go to the gym because otherwise, I mean, it's
just crazy times that we're living in. You know, I think we're more
in control of our realities than we realize. I think we end up we
have a habit of boxing ourselves in. We are capable of so much more
we are, and it's just been a wild ride. I mean, every
even all the little jobs I had, you know, like catering. I
would be working in these mansions and these big Hollywood parties and seeing all this
stuff, and I was I was coming out at like a conspiracy theorist,
right. Every time I would be in a situation. I did presidential dinners.
I had to follow Chelsea Clinton around with a silver tray with the Diet
seven up on it. For two days. I was in the room with
Clinton, all these people, and Clinton and Kevin Spacey at Rob Reiner's house
by the way. So you know, I was like always thinking like a
David Ike reader. I'd be in some house with some fancied and I'm like,
oh my god, he's got a Masonic black and white checkerboard floor,
and he's got this, and he's got that, and look at his book.
I was such a spy. I was just always like keeping my eyes
open, putting together the pieces. You know, you work in Hollywood,
and you know it's known as being hollyweired. Yeah, do you find because
you are an outsider because you weren't born You weren't born in California, and
he weren't born in that and he weren't born into it, right, do
you think it's it's different for you? Do you do you notice that strangeness.
I have heard stories. I mean, even if you're not born into
it, if you come here and you climb the ladder, you know,
eventually you get approached by the cult. Basically, It's what I keep hearing,
and I'm like, I don't want to ever get to that point.
I don't want to be so famous that I get roped into the cult,
you know what I mean. I don't mind being a very low level actor
for that reason. I've I talked to a makeup artist girl who said that
she's been approached several times to literally sign a paper to sell her soul for
a product line, and turned him down. So you know, I don't
ever want anyone bringing me to some party and drugging me and getting me to
sign a paper to sell my soul. Right, So I'm very cautious about
my career. I guess it's the best way I can put it, and
I do try to, you know, be savvy about things like that,
because I would rather, you know, quit, move away than get myself
in any kind of situation like that. Obviously, of course, I mean
I'm friends with che Luff and I've asked him, but he won't talk about
anything like that at all. Well, that's very interesting. He's such a
fine actor and he's you know, he had this father from Louisiana, where
I'm from, and then he just he played Padre Pio and had this big
Catholic conversion. So I'm very interested in him. I really loved his film
Honeyboy. It was very moving, so quite spectacular. Actually, so that's
interesting that you know him. So, you know, I try to find
people that I think are good people and contact them or get to know them.
I mean, like sitting next to this guy in this meeting at the
Hollywood Disclosure Alliance and finding out he you know, he produced Taxaw Ridge.
I was like, wow, I love mel Gibson. That's great. Wow,
you know, and even saying you love Mel Gibson is like a you
know, could get you canceled in this town. So it's just very complicated
as you could imagine. Yeah, no, I agree. Actually, when
you're in the UK, you were in Wiltshire, and now that is just
that's just ten miles away from from where I'm from. I spent time down
in Wiltshire because when I was researching back in the mid nineties. We would
go down to the crop circles down there. It was so beautiful. Yeah,
Gloucestershire a lovely part of the world. And as for Sting, now,
I had a guest on and he was a photographer in La tell me
about when he was working with Sting and all that kind of stuff. And
we were recording on Skype like we are now and finished and none of this
stuff is is connected up to my Facebook or my phone or anything. And
then for the next week, all I got was adverts for Police albums and
Sting albums and you name it. That's so weird, it's so strange.
Just goes to show the mic on your phone. Well, you know.
And I'm so paranoid about mind control and CIA and everything. Like even knowing
that Stuart Copeland's brother and father were in the CIA in the Middle East and
he grew up in the Middle East made me wonder. When I read Preston
Nichols book about using mind control through music and the music industry, Yeah,
it made me think, I wonder if they put mind control frequencies in the
Police albums to make me fall in love with seeing and buy more records.
But you know, when you know that they can do that, then it
makes you wonder, like has that been done for this band that has CIA
connections? It makes you wonder that is true and it wouldn't surprise me.
But then again, you know, please were a great band exactly, so
you're like, were they just awesome or do they have an extra advantage in
some kind of secret technology? Who knows? Well, I'm sure you know
a lot of these musicians they do try an experiment with different things to see
how they can, you know, kind of get a foothold. I'd imagine
who knows. I just don't trust anything. I have such trust issues,
it's ridiculous. Oh, you don't need to tell me. And there is
certainly an interest with abductees contact ees. I think a lot of it is
they want to know how and why people are being connected with extrastrials or interdimensions
or whatever. There is definitely a big interest. So when it comes to
all this disclosure, it's very strange because if we have full disclosure, then
obviously this stuff will eventually come out because there's only so long that truth can
be hidden, right, And what I wonder is, well, you know,
They're always going to shape the narrative in some way. And will we
ever get the real truth? And will we ever have justice for people who
were criminally acted upon? Because it would be nice. I mean, if
I'm on a list as a my lab target and that list is discovered and
there's some kind of class action, that would be really nice, just saying
to have justice. You know, I completely agree with you. The biggest
problem is in what you see in with Epstein and all that. You know,
the reason why it's not coming out is because there's too many people involved,
and these people they have so much control, they're able to control what
goes out, so very strange times, very strange, very interesting times,
you know, like you've done with yourself. You know, it's important that
people come out and share these experiences because there is so many there is,
There is so many. I can't personally keep up. And the more people
come out then that brings you know, I'd have a guest on and I'd
then bring another five people out. You know, I heard so and so
on on the show. You know, now I'm ready. Just yesterday I
got contacted by a woman and she was very nervous. And it's been nearly
a year and a half since you first contacted me. And she said,
the more I hear, the more you know, I want to I want
to come forward. Well, I was just talking to a girl before I
got on the on the call with you, because she happened to calm me
because she's has interesting stories and things happening to her in Kentucky. And I
was telling I said, you should check out this podcast I'm about to do
because they have a form where you can submit yourself to be a guest,
and you know, could do it and you don't have to be on camera.
You could even use a fake name, I guess if you want,
if you're that nervous, because she hasn't ever gone public, but she's a
nurse and so yeah, so I can tell her that that she can go
onto your form and put in a submission to be a guest. Absolutely.
I mean, I'm not on YouTube for obvious reasons. The reason why I
use predominant audio is because it gives people a chance to share it and not
have to worry about what their friend's family or even peers finding out. Because
I do have a lot of people from that have scientific backgrounds and have some
very professional careers which are completely indifferent from this subject. It's more important that
we hear these accounts. Sometimes we do change names than it makes people feel
a little bit more more comfortable, you know, the more the area great.
I'll tell her how fun it was, and that it's, you know,
something she can do if she gets brave and wants to do it.
And I'll tell others too, you know, I go all these support groups
and stuff. Yeah, please do that. Because you're very confident and open
person, people gravitate towards you. And then when you'll share anyse stories and
then they bring out their stories. I'm fortunate because I can go to a
barbecue or a bar whatever, and then someone asked me what I do,
and I tell them, and then before I know it, that then telling
me about their experiences. See, so it will have fun. Yeah,
so I tell people, you know, don't worry about people looking at you
like a crazy person. Talk to people about it. In fact, we
know, the first time you meet someone, say to him, you know,
have you ever seen a UFO or a ghost? Yeah, you'll be
surprised what people will tell you exactly. Yeah, I should have my husband
do a show because he's seen a lot of UFOs. He had telepathic encounters
with them. He was chased by one on his motorcycle that stalled his motorcycle
and he had to sleep at the neighbors and then the next day it started
up fine. He used to see them coming out of lakes in Wisconsin when
he was a kid. He grew up at Way northern Wisconsin, and he
saw Bigfoot up there too once. So he's seen a lot of things.
Yeah, wel Camille, you know I don't just cover UFOs. I cover
just about everything. Cool. You give Jeff that link and when he's got
time, Camille, I really appreciate you coming on sharing that for our listeners.
Oh I had a wonderful time. Thank you so much. It was
great. Bye bye bye bye. Take care yourself. That is all for
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always thank you all for listening. I will be back next week. Till
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