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Hello, kleets, it's me John
could sear the voice of the crypt Keeper,

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and you're listening to Chronicles from the
Crypt. Hello kitties, it's me

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Casualty Chris, and this is Father
Malone and we are the hosts of Chronicles

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from the Crypt, a twice a
month look at the horror anthology series Tales

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from the Crypt that aired on HBO
from nineteen eighty nine to nineteen ninety six.

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Now, in each of these podcasts, we do two episodes of the

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television series. In between seasons we
do bonus episodes, but this is the

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last season, so there'll be no
bonus episode you missed out, or you

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could just go listen to it at
Chronicles FTC dot com. Oh yeah,

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that's a better thing to say.
Wow, one of us is thinking ahead,

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the other one is being smarmy.
It's okay, Yeah, it works

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out. Well, that's what I
do exactly. So on this episode of

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Chronicles from the Crypt, we are
taking a look at the first episodes of

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season seven, Episode one and two, Fatal Caper and last respects. Greetings,

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travel fiends. It's so exciting being
here in London. I'm already feeling

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right at Toomb can't to join me
for a little fright seeing. Oh maybe

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we could find a nice cub and
tuck into some authentic flesh and chips.

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Oh, we could go check out
my English heritage. I bet you didn't

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know your pal the crypt Keeper was
one of the Crown Ghouls, did you,

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creeps? I've got all kinds of
skeletons in my closet, which is

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kind of like the family in Tonight's
tale. You could call it Father Knows

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Beast, but I before so.
Fatal Caper aired April nineteenth, nineteen ninety

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six. It is directed by none
other than Bob Hoskins. Bob Hoskins actually

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stars in the episode as well,
along with Natasha Richardson, Greg Wise,

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Leslie Phillips, and James Saxon.
Episode follows two brothers who are trying to

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figure out the fortune of their wealthy
father, all the while a woman is

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there doing things. Yeah there,
This is a problematic episode. If you

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are not into virtue signaling or people
being upset about things, maybe fast forward

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a couple of minutes. If not, this episode does something that an episode

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of the show already did, which
is not handle the treatment of trans characters

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very repensate respectfully, but in a
way that makes me feel good. Yeah,

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I mean this and the previous episode
sort of suffer from this. Oh

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and then you didn't realize nobody realized
that this was the other person that they've

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been talking about for the entire episode, because they've actually changed their gender.

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In both of them, it was
a guy who becomes a girl. Right,

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So the episode that you're talking about, it is a it's a man

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who is cross dressing in this fit. In this episode, it is a

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man who has transitioned to a woman
but didn't have the bottom surgery. Because

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that's like what the whole gag at
the end of the episode is based around,

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is Oh my god, Natasha Richardson's
character has a cock. Aren't trans

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people fucking weird? That's what this
episode should be called. Yeah, I

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mean, I agree that it's not
handled tastefully necessarily. It's just it's to

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me, the worst part of it
is that it's it's just so lazy.

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That's it's more of a crime because
it doesn't seem like they're out to take

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down trans people or or say trans
people have a problem or anything. I

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don't think either of the episodes did
I just think that you've got no one

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else on screen, Like five characters
they're talking about, one of the character

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doesn't show up to the entire thing. One of those characters is going to

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be the character, but some of
the characters are familiar with that character and

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know what they look like. So
how do we get around that, Oh,

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we'll change their gender. It's lazy
and stupid. Nobody. I don't

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care how much surgery she had,
that they the brothers would recognize their brother

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like that on a fundamental storytelling level
is a fucking failure. Well, it's

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kind of like another piece of fiction
that uses this kind of trope. It's

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kind of like ace Ventura, Like
there is no way that you can tell

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me that people didn't recognize this character
who looked like another character when, like

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you've said, plastic surgery is only
so good. It cracks me up.

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How film like so many things that
they kind of misuse. How they misuse

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plastic surgery, I mean they misuse
it. In the last episode that we

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were talking about, this guy all
a sudden looks like Humphrey Bogart, you

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know. In this episode it's the
same thing, but all of a sudden,

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a male character who we don't know
who he looks like to begin with,

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becomes Natasha Richardson. It wasn't going
to occur. Well, it's just

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it's it's not it's not believable like
in any way, it's I mean that

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to me, is is, like
I said, the true crime of the

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episode. Now, I do want
to point out weirdly, once we get

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to England, they start adapting Tales
from the Crypt comics. This is a

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Tales from the Crypt. It's number
twenty. The script was by Al Feldstein.

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Art was by Jack Caman, Amazing
artwork. The story in the comic

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is has zero to do with this. This is entirely invented by whoever wrote

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this episode. I would say,
because the Tales from the Crypt was too

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close to other episodes that they've done. But then this is just an amalgam

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of a dozen episodes we've seen in
the comic. It's a bunch of friends,

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like college age friends who are bored
and and they perform a seance just

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as a like a lark, and
the room gets all misty and one they

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keep the friends keep disappearing until the
like there's one guy left, I don't

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know many like they end up burying
him somehow, and then it turns out

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to be a big hoax, like
they just wanted to scare this guy really

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bad, and so they bury him, and then they've used a coffin that

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was previously used. And when the
grave digger like approaches them, they say,

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you know, you buried our friend. He got buried by the guy.

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You buried our friend, You got
to dig him up. He's like,

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no, no one's going near that. That coffin was covered in leprosy

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and anyone who touched it now is
a leper, and they had all touched

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it. What bearing does that story
have on the fucking piece of filmed entertainment?

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We were given nothing, nothing at
all, same name. Yeah,

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like what why say it's adapted at
all? It literally has zero to do

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with it. Like other ones,
you can say, oh, well,

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you know, they took it in
a zombie direction and they decided to do

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a whole other thing here, But
that's not the case here. This is

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just a free adaptation and wah,
and it is a lazy adaptation at the

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Actually, I guess it's not even
an adaptationism. It's a lazy story that

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we've seen told like four times now
like variations on this story. When I

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was watching this episode, I just
kept thinking to myself, Okay, so

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they moved to England, but Tales
from the Crypt is just back up to

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its old bullshit again. Yeah.
I mean, I could be wrong,

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but you know, I see Scott
Nimophro's name as the story editor here.

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So I gotta wonder if these scripts
weren't like written for a seventh series in

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America and then that didn't happen,
and then this somehow presented itself, if

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they could go make them in England. So you had the same group of

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writers who've been churning out the last
couple of seasons of the show, giving

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us yet another one, except now
we're dressed up in old England. Well.

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Yeah, the the addition of the
show being filmed in the UK does

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not seem to do anything other than
change the accent of all of the characters.

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It does that. I will also
say, however, because this I

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noticed this and all the episodes I've
seen so far, the production value is

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through the roof because it's all location
filming, because they have all these great

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locations to go film at, as
opposed to in Los Angeles, where you

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know, ninety percent of the episodes
were filmed on a sound stage, So

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these episodes, as hit or miss
as they are, like, they look

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better to me. I mean,
obviously it looks like an English production.

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If you told, if you presented
the series to me with a different title

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on it, I would believe that
it was a whole other thing and not

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Tales from the Crypt at all.
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Yeah, but I do like the
way it's filmed. It's not as sort

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of glossy and shiny as the American
one was, and it seems a little

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more serious it. Actually, the
thing it reminds me of is the Tales

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from the Crypt movie from seventy one. I would agree with that one.

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That's what it feels like. I
mean, it really feels like those Amicus

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films. Yeah, like, and
like there's nothing wrong with that. No,

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I think it's not an improvement,
but I you know, I think

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it's a good you know, separate
direction for the series. But you still

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have to give us a good goddamn
story, and you have a treasure trove

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of stories to pull from. Don't
give us something like this, particularly not

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as the lead off. Well that's
the that's the fucking insane thing, right,

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And that's something that I think we
have really had a hard time kind

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of wrapping our heads around. Least
I have, and I would assume you

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probably have as well. The first
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is still our favorite episode. At
the same time, it's our favorite episode.

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And we came to that conclusion separately. It's not like you said it

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and I was like, oh,
yeah, me too. It was like,

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no, that's my favorite episode,
that's your favorite episode. There are

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a lot of things playing into why
that's the case. And every season's first

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episode you would think would be this
like fucking grand slam of a story to

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really start the season out right,
and those episodes have just been getting worse

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and worse and worse as the show
has gone on, Like the the quality

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has fallen off in these first episodes
of the season so hard that now we're

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at the point where it's just a
complete retread of something we've seen before.

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I don't think anyone there at the
time could recognize a good episode anyway anymore.

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Obviously, you're gonna stick Robert Samakis's
episode at the end of the season,

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like as the big finale because it's
Robert Samakis and it's his show.

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But as far as being able to
like look at what you've been given and

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pick what order they should play in, they had no idea. And I

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don't know, it's just a continued
laziness on the part of the writing staff

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of the of the show. I
think we are a far cry from cutting

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cards, let's just put it that
way. Indeed we are. We are

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a far cry from the man who
was deaf. The entire series has been

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a slow progression away from their best
episode, and like it's in such a

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way that it's so obvious we can't
help but mention it. Yeah, it's

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not like the quality is like up
and down. It is steadily declined with

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one or two bright spots. Yeah, And like I said, obviously they

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couldn't even see the good ones when
they had them because they were always just

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sort of crammed in with the rest
of them. Not that it's going to

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make the series as a whole any
better, but give us something awesome to

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begin with and something really scary at
the end, that's what we need.

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We didn't get that here. I
wonder do you think we're gonna get that

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with the next episode, Last Respects
totally greetings, infestas, I'll be with

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you in a moment. I was
just putting these gross profits away for safekeeping.

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You see boils and ghouls At crypt
Keeper Financial, we can help you

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get mug for your money, whether
it's mutual fiends. You want a cold,

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horrid cash, we can guarantee your
coroner the market. I bet you'd

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be the type who's interested in boo
chits. Like Tonight's tale. It's about

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three girls who are chopping around for
a tax fright off of their own in

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a nasty shock option I call Last
Respects. So. The episode is directed

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by Freddie Francis. It is written
by Scott namerfro you just mentioned him.

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It stars Emma Sam's Carry Fox and
Julie Cox and it is about three sisters

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who are given a monkey's paw and
things happen monkey paw, things happen.

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Oh, they also own their father's
curiosity shop. That is a complete mcguffin

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in the worst way. Yeah,
but yeah it is. Um, I'm

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curious, what do you think?
Not good it is? It is so

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bad that I was tempted to turn
it off because I knew where it was

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going, and it was like,
oh, there's another twist and another twist,

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Like none of these twists weren't obvious, and we know where this episode

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is going. Just look at what
the fucking crypt keeper shows you on the

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page of the book before the episode
starts. That is the ending, and

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it is. He does it all
the time, but this time it's literally

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the last scene and it is the
episode's ruined for you. Oh yeah,

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that was real bad Um. Okay, were we talking about free adaptation?

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Yeah, we were. Here we
go again. This is Taylsener Crypt number

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twenty three, written by Bill Gaines
and Alfellenstein and drawn by Graham Ingles,

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another great fucking artist. In the
comic, it's a chauffeur for a wealthy

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family. He marries the daughter of
the millionaire. She's underage. He's going

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to have it annulled. At the
same time, she was visiting him in

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the rain and got sick. The
mean father has separated these lovers. She

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comes down with a cold that turns
into much worse, and then she dies.

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The chauffeur returns, kills the millionaire
and then goes to her tomb.

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It's a tomb. You have to
open a door and enter just to tell

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her what he has done and how
much he misses her. He gets trapped

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in there, no one comes to
rescue him. Thirty days later, two

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people opened the crypt. They discover
him, and they figure that he died

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maybe a day ago, and he
was able to do so by eating the

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corpse of his underage bride Monkey's paw. Yeah. I was about to say,

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boy, that story was a lot
better than this one, wouldn't it.

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You know, I feel like because
this is something we talked about at

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the beginning, right, we would
talk about the original comics and I would

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kind of seed the floor to you
because while I have read them, your

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descript you're describing of them. It's
always much more robust than I And I

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think that comes from you reading it
as a kid. Oh yeah, certainly,

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versus me reading it as an adult. I mean, I posted it

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on our Instagram a while back.
I'd like to re mention it once again.

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Earlier in the year, Father Malone
and I have the same birthday,

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and we traded gifts and Father Malone
sent me a very thoughtful gift. He

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sent me a Tales from the Crypt
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was something that you had originally read
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years, right like ten. Yeah, like you have a background with these

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comics, and I can't help but
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it, how big of a disappointment
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they actually adapted the goddamn comic.
It's interesting because at the time I was

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watching it, you know, I
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had been adapted, and that's partially
because majority of Taysom Encrypt episodes are based

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on either Vault of Horror or Haunt
of Fear or more likely than not,

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shock suspense stories. But I kind
of gave them pass when I was watching

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it initially because you know, I
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you know, to to take some
license with it. Now going back

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and realizing just how far afield they
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as I said, it is a
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for Last Respects it is fucking horrifying, and there was nobody on their staff

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it seems, that was leaning into
that direction. It's a fundamental like amnesia

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that they stopped making a horror show
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like basing everything on ironic twists and
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of gore or a monster to you
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I think at this point in my
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much of a missed opportunity they had
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them on screen and do them justice. That's, yeah, a big problem,

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and it's disappointing to me as someone
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expects it to be a show that
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the show is hosted by a literal
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stories to be supernatural, but I
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to be. And it's a shame
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out of the first two episodes of
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elements, the other one doesn't.
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that the rest of the season may
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because the other seasons, especially the
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as well. You know, It's
funny to me, like looking back and

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seeing interviews with people, and you
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and they talk about its sense of
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the makers of this series like use
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camp it up and ham it up
and all of the horrors delivered with a

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tongue in cheek. But as I
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those comics, there ain't a fucking
thing funny in them. If you if

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there's a humor to it, it's
that you're reveling in what are usually not

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talked about. Dark subject matters like
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sort of rises and falls. With
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all deadly serious. And I'm not
saying I need doom and gloom, you

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know, twenty two minutes a week
for however many seasons. But it just

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seems that as we were just saying, like somebody along the way forgot that

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this was a horror show and you
should be disturbed, Like, even without

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a supernatural element, you can do
episodes that like gut you, and these

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guys just weren't interested in that.
I mean, one of the best episodes

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that we saw that has no supernatural
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show. Yeah or Three's a Company, which also doesn't feature any supernatural elements

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whatsoever. It's actually the genre of
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basis because they use them so often. The love triangle, Yeah, and

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it just shows that when people give
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and make it awesome and not just
sort of say that's enough. And I

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know I've said this a lot on
the podcast, but it always feels like

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it's just enough, Like, yeah, we're giving him this and that,

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and here's twist and in this ironic
and you know, here's some more jokes

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and you know what, man like
I want, I want the man who

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was dead well, and the other
shame here is the involvement of Freddie Francis.

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Freddie Francis obviously directed the original Tales
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this is the episode of the show
that he ends up directing. Boy,

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this is a really bad episode.
The monkey's paw is an overused trope and

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they don't use it in this episode
to any novel or new way. The

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three sisters end up using it.
One of them dies and then the other

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one brings the dead one back to
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by the third sister the end,
Like, you don't even need to know

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anything else about the episode. That
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not only did he direct that original
tales from the Crypt film a way way

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back, but he directed a better
version of the story they were telling here.

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Because there's a monkey's paw segment in
that movie. It's not great,

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but it's but it's a lot better
than this. On top of everything else,

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the fact that this episode has an
intro a cold open is bizarre capital

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weird. That it's weird because the
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they do it, those episodes are
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It's a twenty six minute long episode. You cannot afford to do that,

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no, right, Like, if
that's the way you're going to introduce the

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monkeys, Paul, you don't have
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episode doing so. Yeah, we
all know it. There's a reason you're

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trying to innovate around this story.
That's because we all know it, but

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they don't. They don't innovate anything, right, No, not not not

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not here. Oh I did I
mention for the previous episode, um fatal

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caper. Skip that one. I
just want to to Oh yeah, skip

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this one too. Yeah. I
just want to say, because I'm gonna

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tell you now to skip this one, so you might as well skip the

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last one. And it's it's a
it's a shame. It's a shame because

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I don't think any of the actresses
here were given anything to do. No.

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to say like people weren't doing their

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job here because they were. I
think all the acting is fine. Uh,

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you know, the direction is good. I still like the look of

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the show. But we're just kind
of still stuck in season five of Tailsomer

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Crypt That's just what we keep getting. What a waste of carry fox right,

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Yeah, man, she ain't and
much no shallow grave though. Yeah,

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this however, real bad. Yeah, what a drag. It's it's

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it's it's a shame, it really
is. It's it's a total shame.

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And you, I mean, you
watch an episode like this and you just

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have to ask yourself it was anyone
in the audience fooled by the twist,

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and if they weren't, why did
you do such an obvious on the nose

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twist to begin with? I mean, I don't know, not spectacular,

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lazy, but hey, those English
accents, right, I mean, I

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like the English accents, and I
like the look of the show, but

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I don't like anything else. I
mean, my hope is that the quality

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of the script will catch up to
the way the show looks. Now,

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yeah, I mean there's got to
be one or two, right, I

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mean hopefully, you know, I
would like to believe so, but I

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haven't seen anything yet that would show
to the contrary that we're going to get

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anything good this season. I mean, again, this season is derided among

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fans as the lesser of all the
seasons. Well, you know, so

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far, I gotta say it's comparable. Like I can't. I couldn't tell

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you just based on these two episodes
that this is the worst that we've gotten.

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Like, I'll let you know,
but there have been some pretty bad

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ones. I would say the quality
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I have watched the next two,
the quality so far is very similar to

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season six. So if people are
deriding this season specifically, I don't know

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why it's not any worse, and
you know, speaking to the idea that

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like it's well shot and like,
you know, for me, like I

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wanted to feel like a film,
I don't want it to seem like sense.

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There are on the American version of
the show, you know, there

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are episodes that are terribly written,
terribly acted, and it all looks like

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they're on a set. So as
far as I'm concerned, this season already

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has a step up. Yeah,
it doesn't look like a set. It

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looks like it's definitely filmed in the
UK. Yeah, because it was exactly

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skip this one, big time,
skip, big time skip. So on

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the next episode of Chronicles from the
Crypt, we're gonna be taking a look

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at two more episodes, a slight
case of murder and escape. Yep,

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yeah, can't wait, can't wait
until then. Where can people find you,

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Father? Yeah? You can check
me out over at Father Malone dot

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com. You can check out my
new podcast, Dark Destinations. It's a

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travelog of fictional towns. You can
also hear me over on Dreams for Sale,

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the Twilight Zone eighty five podcast that
Chris and I do with our good

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friend Mike White. As for me, you can find me on Twitter,

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Casualty, Underscore, Chris. All
the podcasts that I work on are there,

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Scary Stories we Tell, They're all

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there, Go check them out.
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