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All right. Joining us now is
Jack Lawson, who has Civil Defensemanual dot

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com. Let me grab a copy
of this. I'll always keep it right

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here, two volumes set, and
you can find it at Civil Defensemanual dot

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com. There's a reason that Jack
does this only in a physical copy.

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That's that's what we were just talked
about earlier. You know, the hacks

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and the vulnerability of our infrastructure,
our internet and things like that. But

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Jack has something very interesting to talk
about, and so I'm going to let

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you roll this story out. You
know somebody that actually arrested Vladimir Putin and

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interrogated him. Tell us about that. Yeah, David, I wrote,

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I've written and published four books.
Let me give you real quick, your

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readers or your watchers, your listeners, an idea of my background. I

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was in the American Air Force for
four years. I was an electronics specialist

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for missile guidance systems and a pro
system they called the safe ol S,

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a f O nuclear arming system,
and I did the uh arming package for

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the nuclear bomb which I used to
actually sit on top of putting his package.

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I was also a members like Slim
Pickens in Doctor Strange Law. Yeah,

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of course, I never opened the
door underneath you fortunately likelim swim picking,

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but probably didn't go in the dark
lick mine I got, I got,

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I radiated from I've got problems from
it. But I was also after

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the American Air Force. I was
a member of a Foreign Legian Anti Terrorist

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Rapid Response Unit UH in Africa,
and I was involved in a nasty war.

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Was there for about three years,
and I've I've offered four books.

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But what you were alluding to was
Solly Defontaine. He's in the Special Forces.

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He was a member of my Special
Forces chapter in Las Vegas. But

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the bottom line is the guy is
in the Special Forces Hall of Fame.

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I told him one time, Sally
went, I see these pictures from the

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nineteen sixties of all these diplomats and
stuff. I looked real close to see

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if you're in the background. He
seemed to get involved in just about everything.

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But in this case he was a
Green Beret colonel, right, He's

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a green break colonel. And then
he became the director of the Berlin Criminal

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Investigation Division, which is a department
of the Army. And he told me

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the story one day, what a
character, a great man. He was

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like a second father to me.
I used to asleep over to their house

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and his wife would make me breakfast. And they were just great people,

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you know, and just very assaults
of the earth. He was a Frenchman

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born in Brussels, but naturalized American
because he spoke fluent Marseille French. He

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had a lot of interactions with the
ABC agencies. But in Berlin in the

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late eighties they had American tenth Special
Forces Group actually had people going behind the

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line. People don't know this unless
you read books on this, but they

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had guys that lived in the Eastern
Bloc countries. Just as if they owned

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a home and they were a citizen. They spoke perfect dialect of the language

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there. Well, one of these
guys was out of the East Block and

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in Berlin in his apartment and noticed
a mailman walking down the street. And

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this mailman was in a German mail
uniform and had a mail bag and it

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was kind of it's the guy was
just nonchalantly stirring, and he noticed this

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guy isn't delivering any mail. And
he saw him the next day, so

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he decides to follow this guy and
he follows him to an apartment. The

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guy didn't deliver one bit of mail, except he got to this apartment.

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So this special Forces guy talked to
the CID, which Sully Defontein was running,

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he was a Colonel Inn and told
him about this. Thank so they

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put the mailman delivering the mail and
the apartment under surveillance determine it was a

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Russian KGB operation, so they arrested
the mailman. He turned out to be

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Vladimir Putin, now the president of
our Premier of Russia, and he said

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he had a whole team of guys
and they interrogated him NonStop for hours,

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and he said everybody came out of
that room liking Putin. He was such

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a charming person. He first off
admitted, yeah, I'm a spy,

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you know, I told him so. Anyway, he said we he said,

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I talked to him for probably an
hour, and he said he was

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an absolutely most charming person I've ever
integrated, interviewed, and he said they

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swapped him a couple of days later
for an American Special Forces guy they'd caught

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holding. So they did the swap, and then the intelligence agencies found out

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about this and blew a fuse because
yeah, Putin was a spy, but

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he was also running the entire Russian
KGB operation in the East Germany. And

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they were really angry about this that
they let him go, and apparently somebody

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didn't get the communicy. Hey,
we captured this guy, so you know,

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since they showed no interest, they
did the swap. Wow, it's

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amazing that if he was running that
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dressed as a mailman. This is
almost like the Star Trek thing where they

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had the captain of the ship goes
down with every party. You know,

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he putin majored in German language.
They have intense schools in Russia back in

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that time, and he spoke perfect
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Anyway, the longest short of this
thing was I said this, I

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asked Sally. I said, well, what was putin like? He said,

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I'll just tell you one thing.
He's nobody's fool. He tricked us

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into letting him go. He was
so low key and he had everybody in

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the room laughing. He's telling these
jokes all the time, and you know,

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he looks so serious when you see
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he's probably a pretty brutal character.
He was KGB all those guys. And

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I'm no apologist for him or the
Russians. Yeah, I think they made

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great They made mob great mob characters. You know, it reminds me of

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the movie The Ukrainians do too,
But yeah, it reminds me of the

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movie The Usual Suspects, where we
had Kevin Spacey is kaiser. He's telling

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them all this, Yeah, that
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Sully said. And he said,
I'll tell you one thing. He said,

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he's no one's fool. He said
that guy is extremely intelligent and very

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crafty and very He can lay out
a he can play three dimensional chess.

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So anyway, the longest short of
thing was I thought that was very interesting

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that he interrogated him for this long
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doing this. But what he was
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don't know. I didn't get the
Sully was hard to get information out of.

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He did so many incredible things,
but his wife and me used to

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have to try to get him drunk
it whine at night to get any stories

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out of it, because he was
he was just so humble. He's just

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an incredibly great guy. Well,
you know, it makes you. It

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makes you think when you compare how
somebody rises up through a tutalitarian system like

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that, Uh, and they do
have to be very ruthless, intelligent and

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so forth. And you know,
whereas the people who rise up in our

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system they have to be ruthless,
they have to be ruthless and corrupt.

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They don't necessarily have to be intelligent. I guess see what's happening that is

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that is an understatement. I just
have a hard time sometimes getting up in

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the morning and skimming over the news. I don't really get into it too

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much in detail. Yeah, because
it's a matter I think the biggest task

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people face in this country now is
trying to determine what the truth is.

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Yes, And that's why I actually
encourage your readers to to uh support you

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because to me, you're you're one
of the few people that's a voice of

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reason and reality, uh in this
crazy world. I mean, the time

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to think the news, I I
just I can't even look at it.

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It's just it's disheartening, and I
think it's purposely designed to be that way.

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But anyway, Uh, I cannot
believe the mess we're in a use.

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The understatement was not very intelligent,
but they seem to be surrounded by

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people like that. Uh Joe,
Uh, you know, we're in a

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Kennedy Kennedy missile crisis, whether people
realize this or not, Cuban Kennedy missile

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crisis. Only Joe Biden isn't John
Kennedy, and Putin is not Nikita Khrushchev.

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Krushev was kind of a clown and
uh he yeah, you know when

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he when he goes to the unit
and he takes off his shoe and he

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starts banging in on the I think
we will bury you. I mean that,

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Yeah, theatrics. He was one
of the Stalin used to make them

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dance around and when they had their
commissar meetings and got drunk, and he

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was kind of looked at as the
clown, but everybody liked him and he

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was acceptable enough to put in a
position at that time. But we don't

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have those people. So I think
people better pray that cooler heads prevail in

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this thing. I am totally convinced
these people in the West have lost their

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grip on reality. They're totally delusional. Yes, we do not have a

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nineteen ninety military anymore. We do
not have even technological superiority anymore. The

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one thing that's going to be the
deal breaker in a war is going to

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be the hypersonic missiles. Now,
missiles I worked on, we're pretty fast,

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but nothing, nothing at all like
what they've got. Now, it's

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it's going as somebody who's going to
get walked over, And I don't believe

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it's going to be the Russians.
They've had two years of intense combat experience.

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Most of the men they've rotated through
to get combat. So they've got

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approximately one point two million people that
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I don't know who's going to be
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initially NATO, if they get boots
in the ground into Ukraine, is probably

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going to be using European troops now
that they're already and they've had American troops

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in there. These systems that we're
giving them are so complex. You can't

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teach somebody how to run that thing
like a Heimayer's missile system. You can't

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teach this stuff in a month or
two months. And lot of that they've

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had to put people in there,
and I think our Defense Department is concealing

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the fact that quite a number of
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Yeah, you know. Well,
of course, with our wide open borders,

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you've talked about many times the ability
for them to do direct sabotage,

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not just through cybersecurity issues and things
like that, we could easily have somebody

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dressed as a mailman just walk across
the border. Right, he doesn't even

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have to have a mail bag,
just come across. I might actually stick

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out and be even more suspicious if
they came dressed as a mailman. I

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think, yeah, you're probably you'll
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water or one of the LGB colored
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yeah, I come dressed as LGBT. Oh, bring them right in.

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We need more of them. Yeah. I've never seen a country in such

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a best. We'll just tell your
listeners this and you had a conversation.

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Since writing his book, The Civil
Defense Manual, I have had the opportunity

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to meet people that I would have
never met in my lifetime. One such

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person I won't say his name.
He's up in his eighties now. He

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was in line for the last president's
Assistant Director of National Security, which he

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turned down because he was eighty at
the time. He's a retired Army colonel

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and combat veteran of Korea and also
an attorney, and he was he's had

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some very important positions. But he
told me about two weeks ago. All

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the chatter in Washington, DC,
in the Pentagon, the intelligence agencies,

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politicians is something is going to happen
in September October, something very big.

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Now, I don't want to alarm
people, but I also believe that something

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is going to happen. Whether it's
going to be an all out war with

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American troops in the ground in the
Middle East or in the Ukraine, I

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don't know whether it's going to be
an exchange of some kind. By the

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way, I'll just tell you this, I'm quite familiar. I'm no expert,

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but I'm quite familiar with nuclear type
weapons. The first one people have

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to understand, we set off and
Hureshiman Knagonzaki was an atomic bomb that was

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splitting the atom. The ones that
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thermonuclear, which is a combination of
splitting atom, which is fishing and fusion,

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which is a multiplication factor that makes
us bomb explosion a thousand dimes more

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powerful. We now use thermonuclear weapons. There is no such thing as a

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tactical nuclear weapons. That is a
joke. I laugh every time I hear

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it. It's like the old myths
of mythology of Pandora's box. Once you

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open that look out, I don't
think anybody understands the graduation and power of

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these bombs. And that's a frightening
thing to me. Well, and of

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course, you know, we've had
a lot of indications of this. You

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look at Jen Stoltenberg, I think, is the NATO commander, head of

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NATO. He's stepping down, and
they got a new guy they're putting in

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there, Mark Ruta, who was
the guy that was Prime minister in the

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Netherlands trying to shut down all the
farms and the farmers. They organize and

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threw him out, so they move
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these different European nations, but especially
the UK, talking about reviving a draft,

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doing this even though that's unpopular,
doing it as they're coming up to

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an election. And then the same
thing here in the United States, and

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the United States not only talking about
automatically registering you in the draft, but

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now you've got a Democrat saying,
let's draft women. And this is one

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of the things that here's a meme
that was used years ago. This was

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a guy that they convicted and want
to send to prison because he put up

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some joke memes during the twenty sixteen
election saying just text your vote to this

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or show up on Wednesday or whatever
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done on the other side to Republicans, but they came after this guy,

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not after the person who was doing
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to put him in jail. One
of the memes that he put up is

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this. When I've got up on
the screen right now, a woman who

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was laying on the ground said he
died for his country. Is in the

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military, Michael Arlen con cemetery or
something. He died for his country.

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Now it's her turn. And then
down on the bottom there it's Hillary Clinton's

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logo and the hashtag draft our daughters. They're actually doing that, now,

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we're not going to do that,
but you've got Democrats have introduced that bill.

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So when you look at the fact
that not only are they a bringing

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up the draft, but they are
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that they're not going to have enough
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women as well, And so all
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you had the reason I mentioned NATO
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oh, yeah, it's no problem
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Oh really, that's not a problem. That's not a provocation, that's

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not taking it to the next step. That's where they are right now.

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So yeah, when you say that
something's going to be happening, if it's

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done right before the election, yeah, maybe that's a part of their calculation

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to take us to war because people
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but they keep pushing this. It's
a relentless, iterative process to push us

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into World War III. Yes,
I believe there's a push. How far

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this is going to go, I
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it's quite interesting how all of these
LBG x y Z people and people like

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Ruta who were trying to close all
the farms down, how they are so

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behind all of this. It's if
somebody can't connect the dots and draw a

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conclusion that there is an agenda behind
this, it's being pushed by people.

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Then they need to go back to
school. I think a probable situation.

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I feel this is quite probable.
I earlier told you I'm one of probably

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a handful of people that's ever witnessed
a thermobaric explosion. Let me explain to

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people what a thermobaric is. It
is not nuclear. It is simply something

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that Germans were working on at the
end of World War two, one of

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their secret weapons. And thank god
they did not get the thing functioning and

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delivery systems because this weapon. I'll
just give you an in I saw this

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thing dropped. I was probably eight
hundred yards away from this day, and

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the pilot told me over the radio. He said, he said, watch

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this, mate, and he disappeared. Is yet disappeared into the clouds,

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and he came down almost probably a
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mixture of chem goes, primarily fuels, And what happened when he dropped this

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bomb is usually the procedure in most
of them. Now The Russians have made

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huge strides with thermobaric weapons in the
last decades. But the thermobaric bomb,

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once it's dropped, a small explosive
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like a clamshell, and it distributes. You can literally see this. I

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watched this miss of highly flammable fuel
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then the bomb has a lanyard hanging
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long rope and it's got a weight
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as it touches the ground, releases
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the many explosion, which then ignites
all of this fuel mist. That's over

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hundreds of yards. Wow. I
have never in my I've seen a lot

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of explosions, I never in my
life witnessed anything like this. They were

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actually two of them. The first
one was kind of a crump sounding and

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the shell sides came off the thermo
barry weapon spread the fuel, and then

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the main charge ignited all that fuel. It actually sucked the wind eight hundred

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yards away towards it. It was
drawing on the oxygen out wow, and

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it needed it through to ignite.
This explosion of the fuel it drew,

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it created a mushroom cloud. I
couldn't believe this, but the light from

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the explosion was so intense it was
like a bright star. Now people talk

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about the Russians using retaliating if they
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what they're doing they have the Ukrainians
have a limited number of missiles.

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Most of them have a range probably
maximum of three hundred miles, and they've

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got to be launched inside of Ukrainian
controlled areas. I think they're limited in

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these, and I think the Russians
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The replenishment of them is going to
be a problem because they're completely They're over

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sophisticated, like most American and Native
weapons are. Yeah, so I think

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what the Russians, if they do
retaliate, will probably widely announce they're using

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a thermobaric weapon. These things have
they have. I've never seen a lot

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of them set off, but I
saw the one and I can just tell

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you it almost mimics a small nuclear
weapon explosion that I've seen in training films

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in the Air Force. So that's
a possibility. Whether the West is going

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to say it is a nuclear weapon
and being used. I don't think the

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Russians want to open Pandora's box.
I don't know what's your take on it.

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Well, you know, when we
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happened with Syria, for example,
that was every time and it was it

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was three years in a row that
they did this, right, and the

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last one they did was the first
year of Trump. It was in twenty

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seventeen. And every time you would
have a city that had been under constant

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bombardment and the Syrian government was about
to take back this Syrian city, and

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we're supposed to believe that they dropped
chemical weapons, and it was debunked every

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one of those times, and people, you know, eventually you get eyewitnesses

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that are there and other testimony,
but it took a while, and you

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know, they would show even the
spent canisters and stuff like that, but

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it was it took a while for
them to debunk that. It made no

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logical sense whatsoever that they would conduct
this conventional warfare, get right up to

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the point of when and then do
the one thing that would bring in troops

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on the ground. It was obviously
a narrative to bring troops on the ground,

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so it becomes an information war,
just like it was with Syria,

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and you know, and they nearly
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of those times. Even in Trump's
first year he kind of followed up on

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it and sent some missiles in.
But then you know, it was shown

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that it was the white hats who
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that was dropped on them and that
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who knows it's really going to be. That's why I think the key thing

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is information, because when you have
a war, the first thing that goes

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is the truth, and it's difficult
for people to get through that fog of

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war and know which side is telling
them truth. Typically both sides are lying

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about everything, and so it's very
difficult to sort that out. And if

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they really want to push it hard, they'll just use as an excuse and

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go in because it takes a while
to debunk these types of issues. So

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I think it's very plausible they might
do something like that. I also think

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it's very interesting you talked about how
overcomplex our systems are. I think when

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you look at things like the m
One Abrams and all these other high tech,

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very expensive pieces of equipment that we're
sending over there. Oh, that's

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going to be a game changer.
There's no way that they can counter that,

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and yet they do. They're very
vulnerable. You see now the modern

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state of the art tanks that are
being put in by Germany, and presumably

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they'll do it with the N one
abrams. I haven't seen any of them

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with it on. Maybe they've got
it on, but they're driving around.

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They look like a mobile chicken coop. You know. They put it's really

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crude, you know, netting and
like a chicken coop and everything on top

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of the tank. It looks,
it looks, it looks like a mess,

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but you know that's what they have
to do. They call the Russian

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ones the turtle. Yeah exactly,
they've got the same thing. Yeah,

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but you know what has happened.
I mean, you know with every war,

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you begin it fighting the tools from
the last one, and then you

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find out everything's really changed, and
so the things changed. That is a

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drone strike, and that is really
kind of turned into kind of a stalemate

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trench warfare. Troops can't move because
the drones will go after them directly,

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but also after the tanks. You
know, when you're talking about the troops

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or the tanks, it's very easy
to change it. So it's really hard

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to tell whether this is going to
start. I don't like any of this

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because once you start a war,
everybody's got this attitude, oh yeah,

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we're going to win. This thing
is going to be a cake walk and

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everything. You always hear that the
beginning of wars, nobody knows which way

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it's going to go, and everything
changes. Yeah, people here have to

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understand if it progresses from any kind
of a strike by the Russians in Europe

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to them going really overboard and striking
something in the United States. When I

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went through nuclear training, it was
like bend over and try to kiss your

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butt by. It was under the
MAD doctrine, which stands for mutual assured

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destruction. It was insanity. It
still is insanity. They're going enough weapons

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to turn this planet into a blackened
cinner revolving around the sun. I don't

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think anybody is that crazy. I
don't know. I see things being done

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and you say information war, Good
God. I mean, we've been told

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from day one, the Russians are
being defeated, the Russians are being defeated.

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The Russians are pushing all over that
place now they've learned from their mistakes.

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They did get have quite a few
casualties to start with, because the

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Ukrainians are well I speak of the
Late Ukrainians, the Ukrainian military. The

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Ukrainians are fighters, and they're pretty
ferocious fighters, but they're no longer around

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five thousand of them killed. But
if people get start to get scared over

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this, they have to realize it's
quite simple. I'd like to go into

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this a little bit, just the
seven to ten rule and the inverse square

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law when it comes to nuclear weapons
and a detonation, So they're unless you're

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in a fireball or the blast area, you know, it's a matter of

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doing a couple of simple things and
you can survive and you won't have any

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ill effects from it, depending on
how far you're away from the blast area.

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But generally speaking, people should I've
got a whole section in a Surviving

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nuclear war with what you have,
and people go to www. Civil Defensemanual

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dot com. I've got an entire
section in there. It's free to read,

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but it'll give people a pretty good
idea. It doesn't have the seven

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gen rule in but it's got basic
information. Get in the middle of your

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house and let me let me say
this. You know, it's important for

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people. You put that there.
That's very important, and it's free for

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people. So you've also got a
chapter from your books about water and that

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is also free. And so if
people look at those two things, you're

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going to see the depth and the
breadth of information that Jack's got in these

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things. But it's also two things
that you really do need to know.

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Yeah. Yeah, it's basically the
a disea of how to survive without this

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modern technical, power driven electrical infrastructure
that we live in. And it's a

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matter of like walking through a desert. If you're walking fifty miles through a

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desert and a water hole is twenty
five miles away, you need to get

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to that water hole, and it's
a matter of surviving long enough to continue

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on with your life. And I
don't see strike for one thing. People

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get confused. They think, oh, if we're getting bombarded, I don't

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know what the Chinese would do,
but I know the doctrine of most militaries

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and nuclear exchanges. A They're going
to set off an EMP a series of

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electromagnetic pulseive and I'm not going to
go into but it's too complex. But

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the second thing they'll do is hit
military centers, communications and power generation hubs,

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military manufacturing and logistics centers. They're
not out to kill everybody in the

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city of New York or Los Angeles. If there's a facility there that's manufacturing,

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it may get hit. If there's
an Air Force base next door,

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may get hit. If there's a
like the EUMO Marine Corps depot or the

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TUELI which fuels all supplies for everything
but the Marine Corps, those places may

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get hit. But the bottom line
is they're not out to kill the citizenry.

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But you have to. You know, people have to evaluate what's around

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them, and that's going to give
you pretty much a survival factor to tell

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you whether you're going to be in
a blast or a fireball area. And

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of course, if they take out
the infrastructure, and you know, people

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can't have most people haven't provided anything
for themselves. They don't have to kill

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everybody. Everybody will wind up killing
each other. Try fighting over food.

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That's such a valid point, and
everybody seems to forget that. If the

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electrical grids goes down, we're we're
in big trouble. Our internet went off

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where I live for two hours.
We had a transformer blow. Of course,

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everybody's freaking out in the neighborhood.
The Russians have attack, you know,

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like that movie, Remember that movie
with Peter Rus and the Russians are

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coming to us at that movie.
But you know, they portray Russia as

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I'm no apologist for him. Like
I said, there's some pretty brutal,

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brutal people and the gangs that they
have, and that kind of showed me

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what they're like. But I think
the longest short of it is people think

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that Russia is the Soviet Union that
we fought in the Cold War. It's

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no longer that It's totally changed.
I don't think they have aspirations to take

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over Europe. I mean I was
thinking, why would they want to?

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They got every Third world dreg in
the world coming into Europe. I mean,

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they must have enough problems at home, the Russians. Why would they

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want to take on all these Third
world migrants? You know, well,

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if you stop and thinking about it, they've got the largest land mass and

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they're right next to China, which
has the largest population. And I think

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they're worried about their back door.
I mean, they don't really need any

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more land. They've got more land
than anybody else does right now. And

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you know, it's I think when
you look at the Ukraine thing, I

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see it as NATO aggression going back
eight years and this internal civil war that

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was going and everybody maden revolution.
Yeah, and it's been proven. Yeah,

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the intelligence agencies and the West were
involved in that. Yes, yes,

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and even in Ukraine. We had
one guy he's now been kicked out

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because he was very candid about everything. You know, he got kicked out

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when he said, yeah, that
the Russians didn't target that apartment building.

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It was a missile Cruis missile that
came in and we hit it and then

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it veered into this apartment building.
So they kicked him out. But he

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was unfiltered in what he had to
say. And he came in with the

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Zelenski regime, which campaigned on ending
the war, and he said, no,

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there's not going to be any end
of the war. And as a

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matter of fact, he said,
in three years we're going to be at

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war with Russia, and in three
years they were, you know, it

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was twenty nineteen. He said that, So there was this everybody understood on

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both sides where this thing was going
for quite something. Well, look,

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we did the same thing. If
if the Russians are China moved missile systems

406
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:10.760
that would deliver a nuclear weapon at
nuclear weapons in New Mexico, I guarantee

407
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:15.480
you the border to get controlled pretty
quick. In fact, we'd be probably

408
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:20.000
running tanks over in New Mexico.
We would not put up with that.

409
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:25.119
And you know, Colonel mcgre my
theory is proven by the Cuban missile crisis.

410
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:30.599
We didn't put up with them.
And so what Russia is doing I

411
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:37.480
think is for the benefit of their
security. Again, I'm not an apologist.

412
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:42.639
Form there's a lot of things I
like about people all over the world.

413
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:46.119
There's things I don't like, but
I've had interactions. So I've got

414
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:52.239
a couple of guys that were special
forces guys in Afghanistan the Russian Army,

415
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.239
I know, and they're great guys
talk to, you know, but pretty

416
00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:59.760
brutal characters too. Yeah, yeah, Well you know it's McGregor said,

417
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:05.519
if you think that, if you
think that Ukraine can beat Russia, that's

418
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:07.239
kind of like saying if we had
a war between Mexico and the United States,

419
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:12.159
and Mexico is going to win.
That's just not going to happen.

420
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:15.480
The size of the place, the
resources, the imbalance that is there,

421
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:19.079
and so you know, it's become
a proxy war. But you mentioned at

422
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:21.719
the very beginning, and you can
refer to it again now, the Cuban

423
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:27.000
missile crisis. And you know what, people didn't realize for maybe about fifteen

424
00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:30.920
years or maybe longer. I think
it came out in the eighties, maybe

425
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:36.320
twenty years after it happened, that
there was this other thing that was happening.

426
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:39.199
We had put missiles in Turkey and
that was really on Italy. We

427
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:45.280
actually had one of the versions of
the V two German rocket was the Jupiter

428
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:50.719
missile, and they had nuclear tipped
ones in Turkey right across the border.

429
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:57.840
Yeah, and of course, a
typical American politician, Kennedy says, we

430
00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:00.760
stared to Russian's don they blinked?
Well, they didn't really blank. You

431
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:07.400
know, That's one of the reasons
Krusher got removed was the deally he made.

432
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:12.000
And the long and short of the
thing was they took those missiles and

433
00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:17.199
there's nuclear weapons out of Turkey and
at the demand of the Russians, and

434
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:21.679
they didn't really blink. They just
did a trade off. You know.

435
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:25.320
Yeah, that's right, and that
was that was kept quiet on our side

436
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:29.880
for quite some time, and so
you know, in a sense, this

437
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:32.440
is very much a repeat of that. Of course, as you pointed out,

438
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.599
Biden is no JFK and it's no
Cruise chev But you know, we've

439
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:43.920
we've put this military stuff close to
them now with Ukraine. So they're making

440
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:51.159
a show of bringing their sub to
Cuba and to Venezuela to launch rockets from

441
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:53.519
it as well as a show of
force to say dangerous. Yeah, that's

442
00:36:53.519 --> 00:37:00.000
a dangerous, dangerous situation. Yeah, when you get to nuclear weapons,

443
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:05.519
it's not far from a soldier having
a rifle and being in a war and

444
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:13.719
shooting the enemy and getting around people
that are armed road disarmed. There's always

445
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:16.960
the potential to pull that trigger,
because he's been doing it. If you

446
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:23.400
let the nuclear box of Pandora's box
open and take out the tax to the

447
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:30.760
nuclear weapon and use them, look
out. Nobody knows how far this is

448
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:36.639
going to go. And of course
are people in Washington, DC and elsewhere

449
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:42.920
that are important really have no skin
in the game because they've got provisions to

450
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:49.360
protect these people for a long period
of time. Americans don't have it.

451
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:53.760
The Russians just had a forty four
thousand person about three months ago a civil

452
00:37:53.800 --> 00:38:00.760
defense exercise. When's the last time
you heard our defense? It really isn't

453
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:07.480
anything to speak of. It's FEMA. Yeah, it's nothing. There's an

454
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:10.599
interesting book I read. I've talked
about that several times called Raven Rock,

455
00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:15.239
the US government's plan to save themselves
and let the rest of us die,

456
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:21.800
talking about how they had what they
had done during the Cold War, we

457
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:24.679
had mutually assured destruction. Uh,
they were going to assure that all of

458
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:30.039
us died, but we're going to
go into the underground bunkers and things like

459
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:34.519
that, and they got into a
lot of detail about it, you know,

460
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:38.239
talking about these uh, these different
places. We had one close to

461
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:43.320
where we lived in North Carolina that
was an underground AT and T facility.

462
00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:45.199
So there was a lot of these
different things that were spread around. But

463
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:49.880
yeah, you're right, they really
don't care about us. And when you

464
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:52.679
started talking about this like giving a
rifle to a soldier, the thing that

465
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:59.800
came to my mind was these guys
in Washington are kind of like some guys

466
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:01.360
never touched the gun before, and
you hand it to him and he's waving

467
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:06.079
it around at everybody in the room
without any muzzle control, right, you

468
00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:07.880
know. And that's really what's going
on with our foreign policy. I mean,

469
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:12.519
it's like we've handed a bunch of
rifles to the State Department and the

470
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:15.320
Pentagon and they're just waving on that
everybody in the world, you know,

471
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:17.800
to see where this is going to
go off. Well, let's hope if

472
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:23.360
anything catastrophic like this happens, that
there's enough of us left to have the

473
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:30.119
capability to run the cement trucks over
and fill their airbns. You know,

474
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:36.159
yeah, I don't. You know, I don't envision a world being run

475
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:42.760
by the politicians period, but especially
who we've got in charge now. And

476
00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:47.559
those people running a government now are
not going to relinquish power. In my

477
00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:52.760
opinion, They've gotten where they've gotten
as far as they've gone, and I

478
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:59.079
do not think I think they're kind
of like somebody having her housefork closed on

479
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:02.920
and beside the light of fire and
burn the thing down as walking out the

480
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:07.519
door. I think that's this extent
that these people will go and I don't

481
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:14.280
even think they know how dangerous this
situation is. They just keep poking.

482
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:20.280
As far as I'm concerned, they're
poking the Russian they keep the we have

483
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:23.760
five or six times as many aircraft. We got a lot of F fifteen's

484
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:30.639
and sixteens and delivery systems for nuclear
weapons. But if they put those in

485
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:35.079
Poland, I'll guarantee you the Russians
are not going to wait. They will

486
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:40.199
probably do something to take those air
bases out. They will not let that

487
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:49.599
threat because they're seeing these people as
totally illogical and unreasonable and literally insane.

488
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:58.800
Just directive and decisions they're making.
You don't put yourself in the Russian military.

489
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:02.280
I think Putin is probably fairly reserved, and what he's done. I've

490
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:09.719
heard that some of the military officers
wanted us overthrow him over this other group

491
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:20.760
that had the opinion, let's slowly
kill off the Ukrainians and will take We

492
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:22.960
don't want to provoke a war,
you know, pull on. I just

493
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:28.159
don't think they're going to be able
to avoid it. Yeah, is it

494
00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:30.599
truly is insane? And you know, I think that you talked about the

495
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:36.679
fact that the Russians have civil defense
drills and things like that. Nothing here

496
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:40.199
they went through. Their experience in
World War Two is very different than the

497
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:46.559
American experience, and because so many
millions of them died in that war,

498
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:51.679
that's the kind of memory that lasts. You know, we don't really remember

499
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:55.119
World War Two in this country much. It wasn't on our soil, and

500
00:41:55.159 --> 00:41:59.119
the people who fought it now for
the most part, have died, and

501
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:02.920
so there's a bit of an understanding
of maybe our father's or our grandfather's war,

502
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:08.119
But it's very different when you have
that kind of mass swater on your

503
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:13.880
own soil that persists for several generations, and so they have a very different

504
00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:17.719
perspective on this. I think,
correct, correct, I think that the

505
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:24.199
Russians are willing to sacrifice people.
The amazing to me is totally blows me

506
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:31.039
away. I like to study military
tactics, and we have a conventional We

507
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:40.320
have a set of conventional tactics to
fight a Russian invasion of Europe. The

508
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:50.280
Russians have always but they especially now
with technology, use what's called the ISR.

509
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:57.320
It's intelligence surveillance and reconnaissance. They
pinpoint every square inch of twenty five

510
00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:06.280
miles in front of them. Drone
artillery missile strikes. Anything that gets in

511
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:09.880
that not twenty five miles twenty five
kilometers, and it gets in that twenty

512
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:15.760
five kilometer range. They have three
layers of defense. Every one of those

513
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:24.159
layers is basically pinpoint targeted for heavy
heavy bombarber. This is why the Ukrainians

514
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:28.880
just get cut to pieces. They'll
lose five six thousand people in a day

515
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:32.079
because they say, okay, yeah, we broke through the Russian lines.

516
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:36.679
No, they broke through the first
tier of defenses, and the Russians don't

517
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:39.639
let them get any further than that. They decimate them. They decimate as

518
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:47.519
one out of ten. They obliterate
them. And our NATO advisors can't seem

519
00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:53.280
to teach them anything but what the
conventional tactics of a Cold War were for

520
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:57.880
an invasion of Russia. They it
just boils me away. But this isn't

521
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:02.920
where military is sticking them mud and
junior commanders say only what they know the

522
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:09.280
senior commander wants to hear, So
it's just a misirected effort. But they

523
00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:16.639
I just I'm just assured that eventually, as far as I'm concerned, the

524
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:22.280
Ukraine has already crumbled. They just
haven't closed up shop yet. They've still

525
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:24.639
got the lights on. Yeah.
Yeah, And a lot of people were

526
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:28.639
saying that from the very beginning,
it's like, you know, this mismatch

527
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:36.960
that is there is doomed to failure, and yet it appears that the NATO

528
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:40.559
forces are just going to use that
as an excuse to directly engage the Russians.

529
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:44.800
Yeah, I think that's where this
is headed. Well, you know,

530
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:50.280
there's an interesting article. Let's talk
a little bit about individual preparation again.

531
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:54.840
You've got the chapter about how to
prepare for nuclear war in the aftermath

532
00:44:55.039 --> 00:45:00.760
of that if you're not in the
blast the direct blast zone, and that

533
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:07.239
is a free chapter at Civil Defensemanual
dot com. But I was kind of

534
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:10.280
curious to get some of your response
to an article that I saw that I

535
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:14.360
thought was kind of funny because it
was in the UK and they were saying

536
00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:19.039
that only about fifteen percent of the
British people do any kind of prepping,

537
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:22.199
and so the Telegraph got a hold
of somebody and said, we'll tell us

538
00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:25.840
what we need to do. And
of course the first thing that you talk

539
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:29.760
about is, in fact, you
got to have water nowhere in this do

540
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:32.559
they mentioned water at all. Instead, they say, well, you got

541
00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:37.280
to have about three days worth of
canned food and things like that. You

542
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:39.719
gotta have a winter sleeping bag,
a warm, waterproof coat. And I'm

543
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:43.280
looking at this and it's like,
what are they talking about? A flashlight?

544
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:46.920
You know, stuff like this beach. Yeah, that's right. I

545
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:52.960
like this one a three and one
survival survival whistle, a whistle so that

546
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:57.119
you we're going to call it exactly
what you're gonna call yeah, yeah,

547
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:01.440
ghostbuster. Yeah. For one thing, I don't want to insult anybody English,

548
00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:07.639
but I'm married to an English woman
and a British woman, and I've

549
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:14.119
always said that the English make good
subjects, not citizens. We Americans.

550
00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:20.280
I really do believe that we almost
have something in our genetics that gives us

551
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:28.039
such a ferocious independence. It's passed
on since the days of the seventeen hundreds,

552
00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:31.480
since we set foot in this place. It's just a survival mode.

553
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:37.559
I would like to tell people the
simple rule is if you better have some

554
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:42.440
water number one, if you're going
to survive. Okay, I'll give you

555
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:45.920
a scenario I would do in my
house if there was a nuclear attack and

556
00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:52.079
we had winds drifting this way with
fallout number one. The nuclear weapons that

557
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:57.079
I worked on, the thermonuclear weapons, were what were called the dirty bombs.

558
00:46:57.119 --> 00:47:00.599
They were very inefficient. They were
a huge blasts. They left a

559
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:07.519
lot of radioactivity around. I called
the new ones that don't laugh, but

560
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:13.960
I called the new ones environmentally friendly
or green bombs, because they have been

561
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:17.480
engineered to be very precise. They
put a big bang out and they don't

562
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:24.440
leave a lot of waste around.
However, if you were to have an

563
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:30.360
attack somewhere around you and you're outside
of the fireball, which forget your toast,

564
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:35.840
it turns into the center the blast
area is going to radiate to.

565
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:40.559
That's usually about fifteen to twenty miles
from a target. If you're outside there,

566
00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:46.679
you're going to end up having southwesterly
winds. Harry fallout. The simple

567
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:51.000
thing I would do in my house. I've got a large front room.

568
00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:57.079
I would close all of my windows, I would close all my doors.

569
00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:04.559
I would have a enough water,
which is one gallon per person per day

570
00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:08.280
for about four days in my house. I would put it in five gallon

571
00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:15.039
buckets or in bath in a bathtub. You want to stay though in the

572
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:21.280
center of the house. Here's the
other thing people don't realize the first time

573
00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:27.400
in probably one hundred years, our
water system is as frail or as fragile

574
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:31.480
as our food system. We depend
on it being pumped to us. We

575
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:37.400
don't have wells like we used to
have. Most people don't. So if

576
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:40.679
you've got a large room and you
get in the middle of it, excuse

577
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:45.840
me. Do you have some sleeping
bags, maybe a few games for the

578
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:52.719
kids to play off to the side, covered pail to use as a toilet,

579
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:58.320
Put a plastic bag inside of it
and a cover on it, and

580
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:04.119
you can changewo plastic bags if it
gets bad enough. But you need to

581
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:07.440
have food for about four days.
You need to have water for about four

582
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:10.400
days. If there are four people
in the family, you need sixteen gallons

583
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:15.039
of water, one gallon per one
day per one person. That's called the

584
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:20.719
rule of three. Staying in the
center of your house, does this,

585
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:27.679
plugging the doors with blankets, making
if you've got enough tape, do it,

586
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:32.039
but turn your HVAC system off.
The air outside your house is going

587
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:37.840
to be contaminated if you keep that
outside of the air inside your house.

588
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:45.679
What you have happened is the radiation
will come through a window. You don't

589
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:50.559
have to have shielding like they say. It helps if you've got a basement

590
00:49:52.280 --> 00:50:01.880
excidney. I mean you don't have
to be in a lead lead shielded room

591
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:06.400
or concrete shielded room. It helps
to be in that. But if you're

592
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:10.599
in the middle of your house.
A physics principle comes in with nuclear weapons

593
00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:16.800
comes into play called the inverse square
rule, which means this, if you

594
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:23.400
have one thousand rankins that's deadly outside
your house, it comes through one foot.

595
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:30.000
It diminishes every one foot twenty five
percent. So instead of one thousand

596
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:36.039
rancings one foot within your inside your
window, in your space, there's no

597
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:40.519
radiation that's come in there. It's
just that the level coming through drops to

598
00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:45.159
twenty five percent. A further foot
that it goes, it drops to another

599
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:51.280
twenty five percent. So a thousand
rankings is deadly. Two hundred and fifty

600
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:54.719
rankings over a period of time will
kill you. It's also a time related

601
00:50:54.800 --> 00:51:01.400
thing, but just the simplesty one
foot inside one thousand drops to two fifty

602
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:06.320
another foot, it drops to sixty
two and a half another foot, it

603
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:10.760
drops around sixteen another foot, which
is total of four feet. If you're

604
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:16.639
within or further than four feet away
from your your windows, in a center

605
00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:23.840
of a room with no air movement
from the outside, you're basically in the

606
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:30.840
about the same level as a radio
as a X ray would give you.

607
00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:35.880
Now you don't have to stay there
for months like everybody thinks. You can

608
00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:42.039
stay there probably two days. Here's
what else comes into play. There's with

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nuclear explosions, there's something called the
seven to ten rule, which means this

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every every I forgot one. This
is also diminishing over distance, diminishing over

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time. For every one hour,
say you had fall out of a thousand

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rankings, which is deadly. If
you walk out and stay in an hour,

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you're so irradiated that and irradiation is
like invisible bullets going through your body,

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literally causing the hemorrhage inside. But
if that thousand rankings is out there

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for one hour, after one hour
drops to seven tenths of what it was,

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and it continues to go down for
every hour thereafter. So there's two

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factors, time and distance. And
if you stand in the middle of your

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house and stay there for two or
three days, the radiation level, there's

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factors involved in this. I don't
want to go into but the radiation level

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will generally be safe maximum one week, I would say four days. I

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don't know if any place in this
country would get hit that bad, but

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guarantee yourself one thing. Before there
is an all out attack on the United

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States of any kind, they'll set
an EMP off, and that emp will

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kill everything that's electronic. Our electrical
system will go down, our water system

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will go down. So if you're
inside that house, at least four days

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later, you most likely are going
to be able to walk up with your

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wife and kids and generally be safe. That's because the radiation is decaying and

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the half life is there. And
so and I had a good question as

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we're thinking about that. You say, in general, four days, you

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know, as kind of a rule
of thumb, has the type of radiation

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that the used. Is that change
because different radioactive materials have a different half

632
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life or is that still just you
know, kind of a general rule of

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thumb. We don't know exactly.
I guess you know what kind of radiation

634
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you're going to be exposed to,
what kind of element radioactive elements, But

635
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I guess you know four days at
that point that decay is going to it's

636
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going to be neutralized, right.
Yeah. Look, people have to understand

637
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one thing. This is not like
Chernobyl. If you have a radiation leak,

638
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it's like a it's like a container
of gasoline getting tipped over. That's

639
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a radiational leak. If you have
a nuclear explosion, it's like that pale

640
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exploding. If you're far away from
the explosion, all you're going to have

641
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is carbon and water from the explosion, most likely in the air. An

642
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explosion and a radiation leak or two
totally different things. Chernobyl. Yeah,

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maybe twenty thousand years they can get
back into that place. Because it was

644
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a leak. The explosion basically consumes
much of the energy from the interaction of

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the YouTube thirty five to thirty eight
exchange it it's eliminated in the explosion.

646
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The point being that the stuff is
going to drop all over outside your house,

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but it's going to go away.
That's really important. I think that's

648
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what a lot of people don't really
understand it because you do think about that,

649
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you know, Chernovo, I remember
they had the top Gear crew you

650
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know, drove through there and they're
looking at the radiation. That's still really

651
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very strong there, and that's what
people don't realize. It's not going to

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be this persistent thing and an explosion
like we see with Chernobyl. That's important,

653
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I think. No. And if
you go into the last area,

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it's going to be high radioactive there
the fireball. The fireball actually is probably

655
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a mile to two miles. The
fireball is the only area that radioactivity will

656
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be fused into water mile because otherwise
outside there it doesn't attach water molecules at

657
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tax to impurities in the water model. But people confused Chernobyl with a nuclear

658
00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:15.079
explosion, two totally different things,
like spilling a count of gasolene versus it

659
00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:19.360
exploding. Yeah. Yeah, when
it explodes, you're gonna have a shrapnel

660
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from the can and you're going to
have a blast effect, but you're not

661
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:30.559
going to have any gasoline left.
That is really important. And again,

662
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you know, people need to you
know, we need to try to do

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what we can, but there really
isn't much that we can do to influence

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these politicians. They're influenced by the
amount of money they're making. And we

665
00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:45.039
just had another thing come out of
another and this is John Solomon, who

666
00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:49.119
really is careful about his research he
says he just found another one hundred and

667
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twenty million that the Biden's got out
of Barisma. You know, there's just

668
00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:59.199
so much there. It's just this
cesspool. And so you know, we're

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not really I don't think were going
to be able to influence anything to do

670
00:57:02.239 --> 00:57:06.280
this. So we've got prayers.
That's you know, it isn't the last

671
00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:07.480
thing that we do. It's the
first thing we do to pray about this,

672
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and that's really about the only way
that we're going to influence the outcome

673
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of this. But it's important to
like I wanted to say, but I

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tell people to listen to you.
I listened to the radio coming home in

675
00:57:17.800 --> 00:57:22.840
a radio station I listened to and
it's a syndicated news and they were talking

676
00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:30.760
all about the Georgia indictments against Trump. Followed Trump is a criminal, you

677
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:34.400
know, and now you're telling me
about one hundred and twenty million dollars coming

678
00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:39.039
out of you know, of corruption
money. Yeah, I'd like to I'm

679
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a tooth and eyes guy. I
would like to propose that they take ten

680
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:50.079
billion of this money they're sending to
the Ukraine or Israel and fix American's teeth

681
00:57:50.480 --> 00:57:53.559
and give them vision Care. What
happened to our great Obamacare system? I

682
00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:57.960
was supposed to take care of all
of that. I saw the prettiest lady

683
00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:00.760
the other day and won't say we're
but she was. She was in a

684
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store and she was very conscious about
the fact she had a tooth missing.

685
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And I didn't say anything to her, but I know she can't get it

686
00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:14.000
a fix because I know what that's
toff costs dollars. That's right, fix

687
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America's tea. Yeah, give them
vision care. That's what we need to

688
00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:21.199
do. I mean, we're given
one hundred and sixty billion. Oh,

689
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they're not going to do anything to
help us. They're looking at how they

690
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:27.440
can shut down our food supply.
I mean, you know, how do

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we have any come up with an
excuse so we can kill all the cattle?

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I mean, it's just crazy what
they're doing. I don't have to

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talk to any of these Americans again. Listen to them. They are laser

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focused on harming us. And that's
both parties and that's everybody in Washington.

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That's why I say, you know, our hope is in God, and

696
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:47.840
where we work needs to be at
our local level. I think, and

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certainly we all experienced that during twenty
twenty. We know that it was either

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better or worse depending on your local
government. It is truly always interesting to

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00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:00.079
talk to you Jack, And again, folks, if you want to see

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what he was just talking about,
that chapter is available for free. You

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00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:07.840
can also see the chapter on how
to make sure that You've got water that's

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00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:10.639
going to last. That's also available
for free. Those are two of the

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00:59:10.719 --> 00:59:15.119
key things, especially in the world
that we live in right now. But

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that'll give you an idea of just
how thorough his work is. In Civil

705
00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:23.360
Defense Manual, Civil Defensemanual dot com. It is a great resource. I

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00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:28.400
had somebody contact me and said,
yeah, I got this and it was

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00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:30.760
worth more than ten times what I
paid for it. So I agree with

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00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:35.119
that. I've looked at this and
everybody I've shown it to is just amazed

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00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:37.719
at how thorough and extensive it is. And it's great advice because it's not

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00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:43.039
just about physical stuff. It's also
about relationships, and you're not going to

711
00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:45.599
make this as a lone ranger.
You need to have that community that's there.

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Thank you so much for joining us, Jack, appreciate it. Thank

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you, Thank you well. That
said, folks for today's show, Thank

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you for joining us, have a
great weekend, and we'll talk to you

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hopefully on Monday. Then T