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You can also become one 10 00:01:22,159 --> 00:01:27,439 of our ongoing Patreon supporters for as little as two dollars per month at Patreon 11 00:01:27,599 --> 00:01:34,599 dot Great Detectives dot net. Well, now it is time for this week's 12 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:41,480 episode of Dragnet. The original aired eight April twenty seventh, nineteen fifty and 13 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:53,200 the title is The Big Job. The story you were about to hear is 14 00:01:53,319 --> 00:02:08,639 true, only the names have been changed to protect the innocent Dragnet. You're 15 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:15,960 a detective sergeant. You're assigned to Bunco Fugitive Detail. You receive information an 16 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:21,199 escaped criminal is hiding out in your city. He's dangerous, he may be 17 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:36,919 armed. Your job get him. Dragnet the documented drama of an actual crime. 18 00:02:37,719 --> 00:02:40,520 For the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, 19 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,400 you will travel step by step on the side of the law through an 20 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:49,680 actual case from official police files, from beginning to end, from crime to 21 00:02:49,719 --> 00:02:55,560 punishment. Dragnet is the story if you were police. Force in action was 22 00:02:55,639 --> 00:03:00,560 Thursday, April twenty seventh, was warm in Los Angeles. We're working a 23 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,680 night watch out of Bunco Fugitive Detail. My partner's Ben Romero. The boss 24 00:03:04,719 --> 00:03:07,919 is Blaine Steed, captain of Bunco Fugitive My name is Friday. I was 25 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,960 on the way back from communications. At was six forty five pm when I 26 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:19,280 got the room thirty eight squadroom. Hi, Hi, how about some dinner? 27 00:03:19,719 --> 00:03:22,280 Then we got one to check out. First year's a Teletope you ever 28 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:27,319 just brought it in? Thanks from San Rafel. Huh, chick up and 29 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,719 hold for this department. One Alfred Garvey wanted for suspicion forgery, robbery. 30 00:03:32,159 --> 00:03:37,360 This man poses as a fingerprint expert from sant Refel Police Department. Here's his 31 00:03:37,439 --> 00:03:43,400 mother book from the record Bureau. We're informed Garvey is registered at the Fair 32 00:03:43,479 --> 00:03:47,680 Deal Hotel or City. We're saying over your person Broadway, please advise us 33 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:52,560 on his arrest and officers will arrive with warrant signed chief please Frank Kelly Sandrafel, 34 00:03:52,639 --> 00:03:54,520 California. Shouldn't take long to pick you then, all right, we 35 00:03:54,560 --> 00:04:00,319 can eat later. I guess him, Max, what do you doing around? 36 00:04:00,319 --> 00:04:01,680 I thought you took off on vacation. I am just came back to 37 00:04:01,719 --> 00:04:05,360 pick up some stuff for my locker. Oh Dutch, Sure, listen, 38 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,840 the wife's got the car. There are you guys going anywhere near North Main 39 00:04:09,919 --> 00:04:12,879 and Daily? Yeah, we're gonna leave right now. Okay, let me 40 00:04:12,919 --> 00:04:15,360 grab my coat. All right? You live out near Himing Park, don't 41 00:04:15,399 --> 00:04:19,079 you? Man? Yeah? White? The kids shopping in the cars afternoon 42 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:25,800 and get them shoes for a vacation. Did sure? Scuff up the toes 43 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,759 in a hurry. All right, y'all said, let's go. Where are 44 00:04:30,759 --> 00:04:33,120 you going on your vacation? Big bear? We're gonna stayed a whole three 45 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,439 weeks ian while I was own a cabin up there. They even pay the 46 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:42,240 utilities for us. It's pretty nice. Only one trouble. What's that they're 47 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:49,319 coming with us? Oh? Yeah, what'd you brought in the captain stall? 48 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:06,319 All right in the back? Okay, you two still working in that 49 00:05:06,399 --> 00:05:11,199 valley? Case? No, we washed it up monday. What's this one? 50 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,199 Selle type for Sandra Fell? And once some guy picked up? Here's 51 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,759 a mug shot. Who's Richard's gonna work with? What? He's gone? 52 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,480 There? I don't know what's the crowd up ahead? Oh yeah, Priner's 53 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,600 convention. I forgot they were having them parade tonight. You better stay over 54 00:05:25,639 --> 00:05:27,160 to the one side. I think we can get through, all right, 55 00:05:27,639 --> 00:05:31,759 watch those kids there? There we go. That's the place up ahead in 56 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:36,279 it. Indeed, yeah, we gotta stop by his hotel a minute, 57 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:46,639 Max, you wanna wait here? Alchemy a big turnout for the parade. 58 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:51,160 No, yeah, it's a big crowd. They're a deal hotel. Those 59 00:05:51,199 --> 00:06:01,040 rates thirty five cents a day, two dollars a week. Yes, I 60 00:06:01,079 --> 00:06:04,439 can I help you? Police officers, would you look at this picture please? 61 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:10,959 All right? Maybe registered as Alfred Garvey Garby Short came in yesterday. 62 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,319 The picture makes him look old. Is he in now? Let's see are 63 00:06:15,399 --> 00:06:19,639 the wrong? Three or seven? The kid's gone, he must be in. 64 00:06:19,879 --> 00:06:23,480 Thank you. Yes, elevators down there at the end of it, 65 00:06:23,639 --> 00:06:30,079 or okay, elevators and youth. Let's take the stairs. I'll wait for 66 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,160 you here. I want to see the parade came in. I've never seen 67 00:06:34,199 --> 00:06:39,920 it to fail. Let's see stairs. Every time my archiers hurt, we 68 00:06:39,959 --> 00:06:44,279 get a thief to check who lives upstairs? Just one more flight? Yeah? 69 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:54,680 Three or five? Three? Seven? Nors? Let's have a look. 70 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:08,920 Man's empty. Nothing in the Yeah, pretty fast? Checkout came from 71 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:17,160 downstairs the lobby. Come on, hurry up, okay, please the police. 72 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,079 It's Maxwell Max Maxie. All right, run out the door, blue 73 00:07:21,079 --> 00:07:25,199 suit. You showed your friend wall an ambulance. You run out the door. 74 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,279 Shoot your friend. Come on, Ben, call that ambulance, will 75 00:07:27,319 --> 00:07:32,079 you? Hey you do you see a man come out of this hotel? 76 00:07:33,199 --> 00:07:36,079 Did you just see a man come out of this hotel? I don't know. 77 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,839 All right, Ben, you go that way. I'll check up this 78 00:07:38,879 --> 00:07:42,800 way. What doesn't matter, what's where you're going. Do you see a 79 00:07:42,839 --> 00:07:45,040 man running up this way? Just now? But my height? Blue suit? 80 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,360 I didn't see anybody. Did you see anybody? Wait? Hey, 81 00:07:47,399 --> 00:07:50,480 boy, no, listen, did you see him? A man running by 82 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,720 here a minute of go in a blue suit? Maybe I didn't notice. 83 00:07:55,879 --> 00:08:01,600 I'm sorry, sorry, lady man man over here? You just bought him. 84 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:09,759 Know, we're gonna need hell. Right, come on, we call 85 00:08:09,839 --> 00:08:11,560 the obulence. You better help your friend. He's bleeding. I don't know 86 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,600 what to do. Ben, get a whole communication to get some help out 87 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,079 here. Right. If the guy get done of the elevator, it was 88 00:08:16,079 --> 00:08:18,560 Garby, your friend to right to stop your Garby showing right in the far 89 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,920 right. Stop yelling. He's terrible. Now, look he's bleeding. You 90 00:08:20,959 --> 00:08:28,360 better do shut up, Max, Max? How is it Chester? You 91 00:08:28,439 --> 00:08:31,960 all right? Easy? Huh? Garby came out of the elevator fast with 92 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,600 a gun. All right, take it easy, huh yoh. I got 93 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,159 communications there blocking off the area. It's fine. What's that front door? 94 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:46,919 Will you keep those people out of Hereah? Yeah, Chest, I'll be 95 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:54,960 here in a minute. Boy, call the wife eleanor ambulance this year. 96 00:08:54,919 --> 00:09:01,039 Yeah, you know bad. He's not gonna get any worse. He's dead. 97 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,240 The name on the personnel report, said John Warren, Maxwell Sergeant Los 98 00:09:11,279 --> 00:09:16,799 Angeles Police Department badge number one O three seven seven. The nearest living relative 99 00:09:16,799 --> 00:09:22,200 wife eleanor Jean Maxwell. Dependents John Maxwell Junior six years, Deborah Lee Maxwell 100 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,240 two years. Death in line of duty. April twenty seventh, seven fifteen 101 00:09:26,279 --> 00:09:31,240 pm. John Maxwell's body was removed from Georgia Street to the County Morgue at 102 00:09:31,279 --> 00:09:35,120 seven forty five. A special detail of men from Homicide and Bunco Fugitive were 103 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,039 on the scene to aid in the investigation of the killing. The neighborhood where 104 00:09:39,039 --> 00:09:41,759 the Fairdeal Hotel was located was covered for a half mile around. By nine 105 00:09:41,799 --> 00:09:46,279 o'clock, the parade was over and the area was cleared. We had a 106 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,679 single lead to work with in checking out the different taxicab stands in the neighborhood. 107 00:09:50,919 --> 00:09:54,200 We found out that three separate fares had been picked up within two blocks 108 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,679 of the hotel. Four minutes after the shooting, Ben and I went to 109 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:01,399 the office of the taxicab company. Abs and question were called in and the 110 00:10:01,399 --> 00:10:05,200 waybills were checked. The times of the three different trips were listed, and 111 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,320 so was the address of each destination. We copied down the addresses and then 112 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,360 interviewed the drivers. We're gonna give each one of you half a dozen fixtures, 113 00:10:11,399 --> 00:10:13,799 like to see if you didn't identify and he of them as passengers you 114 00:10:13,879 --> 00:10:18,360 picked up tonight near the fare Deal hotel. All right, here you go, 115 00:10:18,759 --> 00:10:22,679 yeah, four five six, Check them carefully here yours right here. 116 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,360 Take a good look at each one of them. Okay, right now, 117 00:10:24,399 --> 00:10:26,960 fellas, take your time, look them all over, real good before you 118 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:35,000 make up your mind. Yeah, here's the one, sergeant, no mistake. 119 00:10:35,279 --> 00:10:39,120 Let me see. Where'd you pick up this man? About a block 120 00:10:39,159 --> 00:10:43,360 from a hotel. I drove him to a place on fourteenth Street, same 121 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:50,200 address on the wait beat Ben, Yeah, Alford Garvey, Ben and I, 122 00:10:50,279 --> 00:10:54,559 along with Ricketson Chandler from Homicide, drove out to the fourteenth Street address 123 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,919 another small trenchon hotel. The clerk on duty identified Garvey from his mugs. 124 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,360 He said the suspect had called at the hotel at about seven forty five that 125 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,320 night and asked to see one of the guests, Missus Lorraine Thomas. The 126 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,559 clerk said he told Garvey Missus Thomas was out, that she hadn't been there 127 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,720 for four days. Ricketson Chandler went on steakout in the lobby of the hotel, 128 00:11:15,759 --> 00:11:18,080 and Ben and I went up to the second floor to stake out missus 129 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,759 Thomas's room. Friday eleven, twenty five am, Lorraine Thomas returned to the 130 00:11:22,759 --> 00:11:26,080 hotel and was taken into custody. We took her a homicide and questioned her 131 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,360 for more than an hour. She admitted that she was acquainted with Garvey, 132 00:11:28,399 --> 00:11:33,559 but that's all. One o'clock we went to Clifton's cafeteria for lunch. Yeah, 133 00:11:33,639 --> 00:11:39,159 I can't take this track, Thanks silverware. Get here a little earlier, 134 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,080 you wouldn't get it. Look at that line. You were the first 135 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:48,080 one he ran to after the shooting. Garvey doesn't have many friends in Los 136 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,879 Angeles. Maybe that's why I look near. I'll have a mixed green salad. 137 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,759 Kind of worked as garvey duty. You know. He told me it 138 00:11:56,799 --> 00:12:01,480 was in the Merchant Marines. Whole slap, None of that potato salad. 139 00:12:01,519 --> 00:12:05,600 Please? Do you know what he does in the Merchant Marine? Told me 140 00:12:05,639 --> 00:12:11,000 a steward French dreads And do you know any of his friends in town? 141 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,759 No? I don't bride bread. Can I have an extra butterfleece? Oh? 142 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,840 French trolle. What kind of you want in? Give me some of 143 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,679 those bisiness, thank you. I don't know Garby usually stay at the Fair 144 00:12:22,759 --> 00:12:26,600 Deal Hotel when he's in town. I don't know that split piece soups and 145 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:31,080 looks good. And we told you that the police up in the north were 146 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,039 looking for him. Yeah, I know you did. Like I told you, 147 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,440 I've been out with him a few times. That's all I know about 148 00:12:37,519 --> 00:12:41,279 him. You must have introduced you to some of his friends. I'll have 149 00:12:41,399 --> 00:12:46,919 the prime ribs. They're rare, that piece. How about it? Did 150 00:12:46,919 --> 00:12:50,799 you ever meet any of his friends? Yeah? One or two? No, 151 00:12:50,799 --> 00:12:54,639 no, gravy, meet low brown gravy. You remember any of the 152 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,679 names of his friends. I just met him, that's all I don't remember. 153 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,120 Let me have a roast turkey. Go kind of heavy on that dressing, 154 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,519 right? Did you ever go out with any of'em? No? 155 00:13:07,519 --> 00:13:09,799 Why do you think Garvey went to your hotel after the shooting? I don't 156 00:13:09,799 --> 00:13:13,799 know. Maybe you figured you to hide him. I don't know why you 157 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,399 should. You killed a man and had it straight for your place. Doesn't 158 00:13:16,399 --> 00:13:20,559 make you look too good. I can't help that. I like some of 159 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,360 those string beans. Please, it's Thomas. You know it's gonna go hard 160 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,519 on you if you're holding back information on Garvey. I'm not. Why don't 161 00:13:26,519 --> 00:13:30,399 you take someone that summer? Squashed? Joe? Good boy? But I 162 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,360 can't eat that much? When'd you first meet Garvey? About three years ago? 163 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,919 Up in Saint Joleno. You might as well keep your nose clean. 164 00:13:37,759 --> 00:13:39,440 How do you mean we're gonna reach you? Miss Thomas? You might as 165 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,519 well tell us all you know. Look, if Garvey's killing people, I 166 00:13:43,519 --> 00:13:46,399 don't want to have any more to do with him. We do? Now? 167 00:13:46,399 --> 00:13:48,799 Where is he? I told you? I don't know? Squashed? 168 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,000 Please? You said you had a little boy, didn't you, Miss Thomas? 169 00:13:52,399 --> 00:13:54,960 Do we have to talk about it now? Thought we were gonna have 170 00:13:56,039 --> 00:14:00,840 lunch? I told you little boy, it's seven years. Where is he 171 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:05,159 now? He's in school up in San Francisco? This this line going off 172 00:14:05,159 --> 00:14:11,279 a slow lunchtime. You know that top that Garvey killed last year? Mashed 173 00:14:11,279 --> 00:14:16,120 potatoes country gravest? You what I said? Yes? I know he killed 174 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,720 a cop. He had a little boy too. There's nothing I can do, 175 00:14:20,519 --> 00:14:24,679 no potatoes than Yeah, there's something you can do, Miss Thomas. 176 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,240 You can tell us where Garvey is. If I know, I'd tell you 177 00:14:28,799 --> 00:14:31,960 runch riest. We're kidding iss missus Thomas, but we're not gonna kids you. 178 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,440 You know a lot more about this than you're telling us. Maybe I 179 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,639 do, but I'm scared. Who are you afraid of? Well? Why 180 00:14:37,639 --> 00:14:39,840 can't you count me out of this? I don't want any part of it. 181 00:14:41,039 --> 00:14:43,080 You're in all the way. The only way you're gonna get at is 182 00:14:43,159 --> 00:14:46,360 to tell us what you know? You kill me? Well, something happens 183 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,840 to me. Nobody's gonna worry about my key. You don't have to worry. 184 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,879 He's not gonna find that. Uh No, no desert place now? 185 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:58,200 Boat kill me? Boat? Who's the other one trouble? No matter what 186 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:03,639 you trying to do, Garby's working with somebody is an it. His name 187 00:15:03,679 --> 00:15:09,440 is Jack Flemming. It made me promise to cover for him. Give him 188 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,279 a place to hide out whenever the heat is on. Then you know where 189 00:15:11,279 --> 00:15:13,679 they are? No, I don't. That's the truth. Why do they 190 00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:18,799 need a place to hide out? You said Garby killed a cop? What 191 00:15:18,799 --> 00:15:22,000 about Flemming? Joe, I'm better move along one side? What about Flemming? 192 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,240 I'm gonna pull some jobs all right, we can skip the dessert. 193 00:15:26,279 --> 00:15:28,639 Come on, I'll take the check for all of them. Let's go. 194 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,919 What kind of jobs where hold up tomorrow night? Three Kings liquor store out 195 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,080 in Wiltshire. Let's sit down. They're both the same, Garby and Flimming. 196 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:48,000 They can't hold a gun without using table. You dropped your tray. 197 00:15:48,440 --> 00:16:03,720 I'll get you some more. Don't bother. I'm not hungry anymore. You 198 00:16:03,799 --> 00:16:07,759 are listening to Dragnett. The case history of a police investigation presented in the 199 00:16:07,759 --> 00:16:19,799 Public Interest. Saturday, April twenty ninth, last rites were held for Sergeant 200 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,639 John Maxwell and he was buried at Holy Cross Cemetery. A guard of honor 201 00:16:23,679 --> 00:16:26,759 from the Police Department was present, along with most of the men Maxwell had 202 00:16:26,759 --> 00:16:33,039 worked with in Bunco fugitive detail. The Chief of Detectives delivered a short eulogy 203 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,000 and one of the men from the department band sounded taps over the grave. 204 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,320 We got back to the opposite at noon, checked in at the record bureau. 205 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,919 A photo copyroom had taken negatives of Garvey's and Flemings coming out mugs and 206 00:16:45,919 --> 00:16:51,279 made duplicates that were distributed to all officers. The steakouts continued at the fair 207 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,600 Deal in the fourteenth Street Hotel, where Lorraine Thomas was staying. She was 208 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,559 put under protective custody. Ben and I Rickettson Chandler went on steakout at the 209 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,879 Three Kings, his liquor store on Wilshire Boulevard. It was a large, 210 00:17:02,879 --> 00:17:07,319 modern place and it did a volume business, especially on Saturday night. Ricketson 211 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,400 Chandler covered the store from the outside. Ben and I were stationed in the 212 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,359 supply room at the rear of the place, where we had the main counter 213 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,559 and most of the store in full view. We set up a pre arrange 214 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:18,960 signal with a clerk on duty, and if and when Garvey and Fleming showed 215 00:17:19,039 --> 00:17:22,839 up, the clerk was to accidentally knock an empty bottle off the counter. 216 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:30,599 Were waited until midnight. Nothing happened. It's the first customer in half an 217 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,400 hour's kind of slow. Yeah, wait a minute, here comes another one. 218 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:45,319 No soon, it's a woman clerk, sure got the jitters I put 219 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:52,400 in with him. Oh, I could go for a hamburger. I wasn't 220 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,519 very hungry. Then I couldn't known them bory boy. Yeah, thanks, 221 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:03,599 Wait a minute, the customer, Yeah, man, can't see his face 222 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,960 too well with a head on. Can you that's Fleming? Come on, 223 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:15,640 police officers, get your hands up. Why should go you're hitting? It's 224 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:22,799 going out the front. Come on, Rickets and China stopped him. Yeah 225 00:18:22,799 --> 00:18:27,319 he's down, Watch him get the gun. Yeah, yeah, here it. 226 00:18:30,079 --> 00:18:33,480 That's Flemming all right, Ricketts, call an ambulance. What's the score? 227 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,119 Looks like one in the shoulder and legs too. What about Garby? 228 00:18:38,319 --> 00:18:42,200 I don't know. What do you think Fleming stopped all the slugs? Yeah, 229 00:18:42,279 --> 00:18:52,039 let's ask him. The wounded suspect was tweeted at Georgia Street Receiving Hospital 230 00:18:52,039 --> 00:18:55,480 and then booked into the prison ward at the General Hospital at eleven am the 231 00:18:55,519 --> 00:18:57,160 next day. We questioned him, but he refused to admit that he even 232 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:02,519 knew Alfred Garvey. We requestioned Fleming for the next three days, with no 233 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:07,319 results. The stakeouts continued, the search went on. There was no response 234 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,240 to our APV. Garvey was still at large. As far as we were 235 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,119 concerned, there was only one way to get directly to Garvey, and that 236 00:19:14,279 --> 00:19:18,359 was through Fleming. We called on Lorraine Thomas again and asked her that if 237 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,799 she'd try to get some information on Fleming. Try to get him to talk 238 00:19:21,839 --> 00:19:25,440 and to tell her where Garvey was. I'm not even sure if he knows 239 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,240 where Garby's hiding. You must have a good idea. Even if he has, 240 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,680 you're not going to tell me. You wouldn't trust me that fun go 241 00:19:30,759 --> 00:19:33,799 further with you, and he will with us. He wanted to give us 242 00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:37,079 his name from Fred. It's up to you this times. Why can't you 243 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,599 let me out of this? I looked figured it this way. You knew 244 00:19:40,599 --> 00:19:42,079 about Fleming and Garvey. You knew they were in town, knew what they 245 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,160 were up to. He didn't break your back to save that dead cops life. 246 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,359 Garvey shot him. I did you know he was a killer. You 247 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,640 know he had a gun. What do you want me to do? Get 248 00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:56,680 close to Fleming, visit him every day till he tek he doesn't trust me 249 00:19:56,799 --> 00:19:59,799 I told you, and get him to trust her with you two favors for 250 00:19:59,839 --> 00:20:03,240 him. He wants to contact friends to raise money for a lawyer. Help 251 00:20:03,319 --> 00:20:06,920 him do that, run errands, do anything for him within reason. Suppose 252 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,119 he finds out about the holder that I told you about it, He's got 253 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,759 a long stretch a hit him. He won't bother you. They'll kill me 254 00:20:11,759 --> 00:20:15,720 if they find out. They wouldn't wait a minute. They won't find out, 255 00:20:17,319 --> 00:20:22,480 all right, won't be my fault. Al did the shooting, he 256 00:20:22,599 --> 00:20:23,759 killed the cop. Let him square it up. He'll square it with the 257 00:20:23,839 --> 00:20:26,839 cork. There's only one trouble. Yeah, Maxwell's wife and kids. Hot 258 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:33,599 is Al square with him. In the morning of May eighth, suspect Jack 259 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,279 Fleming was removed from his private room and wheeled down to the X ray lab 260 00:20:37,319 --> 00:20:41,559 on the pretext of treatment. While he was absent, a dictaphone was placed 261 00:20:41,559 --> 00:20:45,279 in his room by a sand crew from the crime lab. Fleming was then 262 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,680 returned that afternoon while Ben and I listened in on earphones in the next room, 263 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,559 Lorraine Thomas paid her first visit to Fleming. We had briefed her on 264 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,480 how to proceed in getting a suspect to talk, in particular to reveal Garvey's 265 00:20:57,559 --> 00:21:02,640 hideout. Was a slow process. For the next fifteen days, between the 266 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,160 hours of two and four in the afternoon, missus Thomas visited Fleming while Ben 267 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,920 and I monitored their conversation in the adjoining room. For fifteen days, despite 268 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,720 all our shows of confidence, Fleming refused to confide he was sullen and close 269 00:21:14,759 --> 00:21:18,240 mouthed. Some afternoons, he would hardly speak to her. On the sixteenth 270 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,640 day, his mood seemed to be improving. Here, let me taxcept to 271 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:32,279 look for you. Jack, is that belly? That's good? Thanks. 272 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:40,799 I got in touch with Dave and Johnny like you asked me to. Let 273 00:21:40,839 --> 00:21:45,079 me say. Rollie said they could get you the money for the lawyer the 274 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,920 day after tomorrow Day said he might be over to see you tonight. It's 275 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:56,359 fine. Once I get a lawyer, I'll stop worrying. I stopped by 276 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,319 Danelli's place too. Pap Royce was in there, going back tomorrow to see 277 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,640 him. You ought to be able to help. You've been okayla right. 278 00:22:06,599 --> 00:22:11,240 I won't forget it four Yeah, sure, Sorry, you had to get 279 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,880 it this winter. Forget it. I can give it back where it came 280 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,359 from. That brought you some new magazines, a couple of candy bars. 281 00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:23,200 Put him over here and there the bad way. Yeah. Sure, let 282 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:30,480 me get him for you. Yeah, Jack, I'll put him right here 283 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:36,640 on this table. I'll bring you some more tomorrow. That's fine. You're 284 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,240 gonna try and see prop Rose again tomorrow. Yeah, they told me. 285 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,680 Being around noon. For sure, I don't see him, then I'll keep 286 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,119 trying till I do. Yeah, that's it. Oh, listen, something 287 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:52,240 else here. I don't want to talk loud that cops might have bought this 288 00:22:52,400 --> 00:23:00,000 room. Yeah. Well tonight, I want you to go to Georgia's giant, 289 00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:03,519 the Blue Moon, down on South Flower. Yeah. And as for 290 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:08,240 George and Tabari, he's usually around from eleven nine. Tell George you've seen 291 00:23:08,279 --> 00:23:11,839 me. He'll know it, and tell him to take you to all take 292 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,440 me down, yeah, el Garvey, George knows the place. Yeah, 293 00:23:17,279 --> 00:23:19,240 okay, Jack, and keep your mouth shut. I don't talk to anybody 294 00:23:19,319 --> 00:23:23,319 but George. He knows the place, all right, Ji, he'll help 295 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:30,480 you out. Well, yeah, it's a long link. Quit paid, 296 00:23:30,839 --> 00:23:38,160 let's go. Ten pm, the detail of three cars followed Lorraine Thomas to 297 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,680 the Blue Moon Tavern on South Flower Street. We parked down the block and 298 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,799 watched her go in. At fifteen minutes past eleven, she came out with 299 00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:48,720 a small, fat man in a dark blue suit. They got in a 300 00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:52,079 tan colored coop and drove south. The cruiser cars, using three way radio, 301 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,359 tailed the coop alternately out through the Echo Park area and then back to 302 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,400 the starting point at the Blue Moon Tavern. Lorraine Thomas went back into the 303 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,480 bar with a man and twenty minutes later came out, caught a taxi and 304 00:24:03,519 --> 00:24:06,839 took it to our hotel on Fourteenth Street. We drove back to the office. 305 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,839 It was five minutes past one am. That's it. I get it. 306 00:24:11,799 --> 00:24:15,400 My cofus it to Friday, Lorraine Thomas sergeant. He showed me the 307 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:22,599 place George did where we drove past it ten thirty two Alamo Apartment three. 308 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,640 Garvey there now no, George said, He's supposed to be there tomorrow in 309 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,079 the afternoon five o'clock. George said, all have to go alone. Are 310 00:24:30,079 --> 00:24:34,559 they watching the place? I think so? Garvey stand with another man. 311 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,720 I got guns. You know where Garby is now? George wouldn't tell me. 312 00:24:40,079 --> 00:24:41,359 We can't afford to tip our hand. How do we know Garby will 313 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:49,440 be there at five o'clock tomorrow? That's just it. We don't May ninth, 314 00:24:49,799 --> 00:24:53,880 three pm, an immediate stakeout was placed at the suspected hide out. 315 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,440 The detail of twenty plain clothesmen began filtering into the neighborhood in the vicinity of 316 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,599 ten thirty two Alamos Street, A three story apartment house at that address was 317 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,480 checked thoroughly and then covered on all sides. Apartment three on the first floor 318 00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:14,000 was checked out too. Was registered to a Thomas King, whom the manager 319 00:25:14,079 --> 00:25:19,559 identified as Alfred Garvey from his mugshot. To avoid pedestrian casualties, we toured 320 00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:23,799 the immediate vicinity between three and four point thirty that afternoon, advising residents and 321 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,880 storekeepers to clear the street and stay inside. At four thirty five pm, 322 00:25:29,079 --> 00:25:33,599 the men in the detail took up their assigned positions. We waited, hold 323 00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:41,680 out a light ways. Yeah, I'll have a lot of trouble for that 324 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,000 punk Garvy. It'd be more trouble if he doesn't show most sex left can 325 00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:49,400 poope coming down the street behind it, say one retail last night, a 326 00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:53,200 girl driving his two guys waiting. You know, Garvey's one of them. 327 00:25:53,400 --> 00:26:06,599 They're pulling up. Ready, Wait a minute, let's go police officers. 328 00:26:06,599 --> 00:26:11,039 Hold it right there. Oh, don't get up. Throw them in, 329 00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:22,079 Garby, you haven't got a chance. I hold both. Come on, 330 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:45,519 Den the other guy, rotten case, rotten business. The story you have 331 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,759 just heard was true, only the names were changed to protect the innocent. 332 00:26:51,519 --> 00:26:55,799 On August second, trial was held in Superior Court Department ninety three, city 333 00:26:55,839 --> 00:26:59,359 in County of Los Angeles, State of California. In a moment the results 334 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:12,920 of that trial, Jack Fleming, the only survivor of the hold up gang, 335 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,279 was found guilty of several counts of armed robbery. Garvey's accomplices who aided 336 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:23,119 him in hiding out were tried and convicted of being accessories. They are serving 337 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:33,960 prison terms as prescribed by law. You have just heard Dragnets, a series 338 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,359 of authentic cases from official files Technical Advice Board. Dragnet comes from the Office 339 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,000 of Chief of Police W. A. Wharton, Los Angeles Police Department. 340 00:27:52,039 --> 00:28:07,319 The Halls of Ivy is pleasant. Listening tomorrow on NBC Welcome Back. Maybe 341 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,799 I should have included a warning for people who are getting hungry, because it 342 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:17,240 was getting close to dinner time when I was listening to that, and the 343 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:22,319 cafeteria scene was causing me all kinds of problems. This sounds good. I 344 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:27,000 think I really am hungry. I had a sense as soon as Max got 345 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:32,880 a ride from Friday and Romero that he was a dead man. It does 346 00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:38,359 make me wonder how rules in modern departments work for these sort of situations, 347 00:28:40,359 --> 00:28:47,200 giving a ride to an off duty officer who was presumably unarmed since he was 348 00:28:47,359 --> 00:28:52,920 technically out of the office. It seems like this huge liability issue for the 349 00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:59,720 police and also just a safety risk to the officer. And you makes you 350 00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:07,319 want whether occurrences like this have led various departments to tighten up rules on having 351 00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:17,000 these sort of ride shares on duty. Obviously they didn't expect the Garvy to 352 00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:21,680 be carrying a gun. You know, he was wanted on a forgery warrant, 353 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,200 but you never know when you go out to get a suspect, and 354 00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:30,960 so I wonder how the modern departments handle this. All right, well, 355 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:36,279 listener comments and feedback, and we start with Alexis over on Good Pods and 356 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,319 Alexis Rights regarding the Big Watch. Once again, the sound effects make this 357 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,799 theater of the mind crystal clear, and I definitely agree, and there are 358 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:52,440 some really good effects on this week's episode as well. The sounds of the 359 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:57,119 parade and the sounds of the cafeteria, you know, very distinct, and 360 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:02,559 the sound of the cafeteria, Yeah, it made it so you could taste 361 00:30:02,599 --> 00:30:06,599 it, but that may just have been me. And also I want to 362 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:12,079 thank Alexis for rating an episode of Mister Chameleon, the Bottom paid For Murder 363 00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:18,119 Case, as well as the Dangerous Assignment episode, the Stolen Computer looprints. 364 00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:25,839 And then we also have comments on YouTube Prime Alien Rights regarding the Big Book. 365 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,680 Adam, you do a fantastic job. Thanks for all the hard work. 366 00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:36,319 We appreciate you. And then also a nice also and many thanks from 367 00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:41,039 Zorg. Well, thank you so much. Appreciate your con comments. Now 368 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,000 it's time to thank our Patreon supporter of the day, and I want to 369 00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:49,079 go ahead and thank John. 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This weekend, check out public Domain 378 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:36,000 video theater Video Theater dot Great Detectives dot net, or on our YouTube channel. 379 00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:41,400 It's another bulldog drumming movie. And we'll be back on Monday with another 380 00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:45,359 adventure of the fulk and where I just picked up a little number who's out 381 00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:51,680 of a mind to meet the fulcon interested? Nope, one five feet two, 382 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,200 I said, I wasn't this here? That were the shame? Oh? 383 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,599 What's the name Judy Wainwright who you're well? She does killed out Compton 384 00:32:02,559 --> 00:32:07,079 and Brady's boy. That's right, she wants to hire you. Is that 385 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,240 why you call me? Yeah? Well, tell miss Wayne Right, I'm 386 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:14,039 not interested. Ah, you're being smart, Mike. What do you mean? 387 00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:16,960 Well, strictly between you and me and the guy who's hiding under your 388 00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:21,640 racing form. This little girl hasn't got a prayer, got a chance. 389 00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:25,720 She's up the well known creek without a paddle. I bet the jury won't 390 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:30,880 take twenty minutes to strap her into the chair. Want to hear the story 391 00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:32,680 she tried to give U? No, never mind, sergeant, you always 392 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,519 follow up a story. Tell Ms Wayne Right, I'll be over to hear 393 00:32:36,519 --> 00:32:39,279 it myself. 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