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Mister John Alden my co pilot today 8 00:00:42.840 --> 00:00:49.880 and the big news about Reggie Bush is getting I think as much attention as 9 00:00:49.920 --> 00:00:52.079 I would have expected if you told me that this was going to happen. 10 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:57.119 But one thing that's cool is the camaraderie that you see from like those that 11 00:00:57.159 --> 00:01:00.960 were you know, that have held the Heisman Trophy, meaning they've won it 12 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:06.159 before. And it sounds as if like there were there was a real and 13 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:08.599 I don't even know if the NCUABLEA cares about this or not, but the 14 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:11.879 I think might in of all people, it might have been Johnny Manziel, 15 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:15.480 who I think actually initially was you know, like basically saying like I will 16 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:21.560 distance myself from the Heisman, like I'll never be around a threat to essentially, 17 00:01:21.599 --> 00:01:25.840 you know, no longer want to be included as somebody in that prestigious 18 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:26.680 group, which you know, to be honest with you, Johnny Manziel is 19 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:30.719 not exactly somebody. I think they'd be crushed if he wasn't, you know, 20 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:33.760 around, But others, you know, kind of felt as if they 21 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:36.439 were, they they were going to and I don't even know what power they 22 00:01:36.439 --> 00:01:38.159 would have, but like brothers in arms saying, look, they've got to 23 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:42.719 get this right, especially seeing the landscape change in college athletics. So for 24 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:47.439 those who missed it, the two thousand and five Heisman Trophy is back in 25 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:49.680 Reggie Reggie Bush's hands, maybe quite literally, which actually they never took it 26 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:53.359 from him, but you know what I mean, like it's been reinstated and 27 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:57.079 USC is going to be able to, you know, not only have the 28 00:01:57.120 --> 00:01:59.920 trophy, have a trophy of their own there. You know, that shows 29 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:02.120 one of their I'm sure many Heisman winners. You know, Reggie Bush was 30 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:08.240 one of the most electrifying college football players ever. He was an absolute superstar 31 00:02:08.919 --> 00:02:13.240 and you know at the time, you know what went on. I guess 32 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:15.120 technically you know, against the rules, but it was happening like everywhere, 33 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:21.199 and either way to say that, you know, he earned the heisman because 34 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:23.919 there was money being given to his family or whatever, it was like, 35 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:27.319 that's just silly. It's again another example of the n W rules just being 36 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:30.759 stupid. But again, I thought the camaraderie of the of those that have 37 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:34.520 been you know, that are in the what do you call it, the 38 00:02:35.159 --> 00:02:39.199 Heisman trust, They they really fought to get this back for Reggie Bush, 39 00:02:39.240 --> 00:02:43.680 and I think that's cool. That's one thing I missed about sports more than 40 00:02:43.719 --> 00:02:46.439 anything, is camaraderie, like being a part of a team, that kind 41 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:52.800 of stuff. So this has led to a lot of Louisville fans saying that 42 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:58.360 this, this should be, you know, another sign that the n SAA 43 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:00.439 is realizing how stupid they are, and they give out a lot of really 44 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:05.919 stupid punishments and Reggie Bush not being able to you know, claim that he 45 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:08.680 has the heisman was stupid. But now they've changed it, so just maybe 46 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:13.039 they'll look at Louisville's banner and say, yes, you know, we stick 47 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:16.919 by our conclusion of the investigation and our punishment. But as far as you 48 00:03:16.919 --> 00:03:20.919 know, making you act as if you didn't win the championship, you know 49 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:23.840 we're not going to do that anymore. But Tim Sullivan, of course, 50 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:28.560 you know, Sully's all over this. He tweeted this out earlier in the 51 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:31.800 show. Texted Louis All Athletic director Josh Heard this morning, inquiring whether the 52 00:03:31.879 --> 00:03:38.159 return of Reggie Bush's Heisman trophy encouraged and or emboldened him about the U of 53 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:43.319 LS about u of l's vacated twenty thirteen National Championship banner. No response yet. 54 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:46.360 What are you doing, Josh? I mean Sully, you know he's 55 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:51.240 working on a column. Sully's an old school journalist, sharp pencil, right, 56 00:03:51.280 --> 00:03:55.120 He'll ask the tough questions. And I love Tim Sullivan, and I 57 00:03:55.120 --> 00:04:00.240 mean that's sincerely, But whenever I envision him working on a piece, I 58 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:04.439 don't think about him on a MacBook pro or at a cubicle. I just 59 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:11.360 I'm just seeing like typewriter or handwritten and that that's like a feather pin. 60 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:13.680 Yeah. And it sounds like I'm making fun of his age. It's not 61 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:15.800 that, I mean he is older, but you know, he's just he's 62 00:04:15.839 --> 00:04:23.000 old school man and he's great. Every every media market needs a sharp pencil 63 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:26.399 like Sullivan that'll ask questions that you know, a lot of people wouldn't because 64 00:04:26.439 --> 00:04:29.399 they'd be worried about it impacting their access and all that kind of stuff. 65 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:33.759 And I get it. Jerry. It was his name, Jerry Tipton. 66 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:38.839 He was that guy in lexion for a long time. So I sat next 67 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:43.759 to Tim Sullivan for I believe three years at every Louisville basketball game. He 68 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:46.600 was a great courtside companion. Miss you, Tim, So again, this 69 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:51.240 whole thing has also led to others saying you know, others, others mentioning 70 00:04:51.560 --> 00:04:57.279 specific things that should be reversed or changed, and Pete Rose and Barry Bonds 71 00:04:57.480 --> 00:05:00.120 not being in the Hall of Fame has been mentioned quite a bit. And 72 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:04.759 then one that I was not familiar with that is insane, the Armando Galarraga 73 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:08.399 perfect Game. Gonna assume, John, you don't know who that is either, 74 00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:09.959 right, got a clue? So I had no clue. I'm not 75 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:15.399 a baseball guy. But in twenty ten, this pitcher for the Tigers was 76 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:18.560 about to become the twenty first pitcher in Major League Baseball history to throw a 77 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:23.160 perfect game. This was against the Cleveland Indians. He retired the first twenty 78 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:27.680 six batters he faced, and his bid for a perfect game was ruined one 79 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:32.319 out short when the first base umpire Jim Joyce incorrectly ruled that Indians batter Jason 80 00:05:32.360 --> 00:05:38.439 Donald reached the first base safely on a ground ball, so instead he finished 81 00:05:38.439 --> 00:05:42.360 with a one hit shutout in a three to zero victory. He faced twenty 82 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:45.680 eight batters and threw eighty eight pitches, sixty seven strikes and twenty one balls, 83 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:50.240 and the game is oftentimes referred to as the twenty eight out perfect game 84 00:05:50.920 --> 00:05:56.079 or the almost perfect game. So that's a I mean, the twenty first 85 00:05:56.120 --> 00:05:59.439 player in the history of Major League Baseball to do it at that time and 86 00:05:59.480 --> 00:06:02.560 to have the last play, you know, the one call here like keep 87 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:05.079 you from being able to, you know, claim that that's part of your 88 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:11.639 resume, would suck, and it's something that baseball should you know, just 89 00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:15.160 let him, you know. I I guess there's a chance that maybe he 90 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:19.319 doesn't care about that now. But I'm reading here from an old column about 91 00:06:19.360 --> 00:06:21.560 this that, the and this, this, this, you know, that 92 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:28.160 makes it even more sad that the umpire Jim Joyce was tearful and apologetic and 93 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:34.480 over the years has apparently not stopped letting uh Galarraga know that he's so sorry 94 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:38.040 for ruining what a what a great moment. You don't see refs do or 95 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:41.519 umpires, refs whatever, officials do that very often. It's interesting, like 96 00:06:41.560 --> 00:06:45.839 it's almost like when you get into the mind of the umpire he almost wanted 97 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:47.560 to ruin the perfect game. But then when it actually happened and it was 98 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:53.399 that controversial of a call, then you realize that you shouldn't do something like 99 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:58.680 that. Yeah, yep, yep, no doubt. Let's see, this 100 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:00.920 is a good one. This is something in this thread, by the way, 101 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:04.160 is over on barstool. Big cat Dan Katz. He put out once 102 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:08.279 this became public, he put out or I guess the news broke. He 103 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:10.759 put out a list of things that you know should be reversed in sports, 104 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:15.560 and he did put Louisville's national title at number three on his list because you 105 00:07:15.560 --> 00:07:17.759 know, it's it's another one that's really stupid. And for those who missed 106 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:20.480 it, I did talk about it earlier. I get why people want that 107 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:24.439 banner back up, and it was you know, it's stupid for anybody to 108 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:27.959 think or claim that Louisville had an unfair advantage to win a national championship that 109 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:30.560 we know in fact they did win. We watched it happened, it was 110 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:34.240 it was real. But I just I've never been able to really match the 111 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:39.759 emotion that a lot of fans have because I don't have any negative feelings at 112 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:42.160 all towards that team in that run. I mean, I hated that that 113 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:45.519 happened and it's unfortunate, but like, I don't really think about it very 114 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:48.879 often because again, they want it. Like you know, it's not as 115 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:51.800 if I'm asking the NAA to give me something that they took from me as 116 00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:56.360 a fan. Now the players, I think it's totally different. So as 117 00:07:56.399 --> 00:07:59.759 I've always said, I really hope they do reinstate it for those guys specifically, 118 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:01.879 But from a fan standpoint, you know, I don't think any differently 119 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:07.920 about that run, that team or anything. This is one that that you 120 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:09.560 know, this is not really like an over this is not overturning something. 121 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:15.800 But I think this one is very much something that needs to happen. Make 122 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:18.399 the day after the super Bowl and National Holiday. We can agree on that 123 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:22.959 right, absolutely. I mean, it's the biggest sporting event of the year 124 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:26.959 and it's on a Sunday night, and it just, yeah, makes no 125 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:31.759 sense for us to not have that as a national holiday. Another one that 126 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:35.960 I saw that I'd not really thought about, but I do totally agree with, 127 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:41.919 and that is the the college football National Championship. It should always be 128 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:46.279 played on a Sunday. I totally agree. I'm sorry, Saturday on a 129 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:50.720 Sunday, apologies, because that's what college football is is a Saturday, right, 130 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:54.840 that's I mean, you can you have the occasional game on a Friday 131 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:58.559 or a Thursday. You know, in the MAC, I think they play 132 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:01.039 on like Tuesdays sometimes, but you know, the big games, the big 133 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:03.840 matchups that you know, really moved the needle are always on a Saturday. 134 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:07.360 And uh, the fact that it's on a Monday, it's just you know, 135 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:09.840 it's odd. Now you do you have you know, you have a 136 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:11.879 playoff now, so you know, you did you have to give them a 137 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:15.200 little bit of a break. But you know, why not you know, 138 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:18.320 instead of doing it that Monday, because again, actually I need to look 139 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:22.159 at the schedule how that's gonna break down, because there may be some changes 140 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:24.039 coming to that, which you know, Monday's not the worst, but I 141 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:26.960 just if it was on a Saturday night, like I think that would be 142 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:31.759 perfect. All right. So over the last uh, the last couple of 143 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:37.320 days, Louisville fans I assume have been you know, cooling themselves off a 144 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:41.440 little bit because they were so worked up about not all of them, but 145 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:43.559 you know, you see again and again, I got to do better at 146 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:48.080 not looking at something I see on the toxic wasteland that is Twitter and just 147 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:50.759 assuming that that represents a huge amount of people. But Louisville did. Look. 148 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:52.480 You know, the optics are this. Louis was losing guys in the 149 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:56.519 portal. Now a lot of other schools are too, uh. And you 150 00:09:56.559 --> 00:10:00.279 know, some of these guys that you added were dudes that you ex to 151 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:03.879 be big additions, and they showed up after the season ended and we're here 152 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:09.200 for three months and left. So I get that the optics aren't good for 153 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:13.159 outsiders. But again, if you look at each because every every situation is 154 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:16.600 different, right, like losing four players, they could all be leaving for 155 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:18.399 different reasons, So it's not all one thing, right, Like it's it's 156 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:22.320 not everybody's out of here because there's no money left for an IL, or 157 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:24.720 everybody's out of here because you know, they hate Jeff Brahm or something. 158 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:30.679 So I do think it is is you know, you probably need to look 159 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:35.080 at each individual situation and get whatever information you can, which a lot of 160 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:39.519 it we're not going to know. We'll never know. But I think guys 161 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:43.919 that showed up and then just left like it just the optics of it are 162 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:46.799 are not good for anybody at any level throughout you know, just it sucks. 163 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:52.480 Well, apparently the fivebo two circle is trying to do some things on 164 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:56.759 their end to cover you know, some losses financially if in fact that happens, 165 00:10:56.759 --> 00:11:00.320 meaning somebody shows up, they start getting paid in IL and then they 166 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:05.679 leave and you know, never you know, never actually played, which technically 167 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:07.600 you know, the arrangements, the contracts, the deals, whatever they're called, 168 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:11.600 and I'm not sure if it's an actual contract or not, but you 169 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:13.120 know the way they do it with the five or two circle, and I'm 170 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:18.120 sure it's not everybody, but you know, you're paid for you know, 171 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:22.919 some appearances in the community, right, that kind of stuff. So what 172 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:26.799 they give you when you arrive probably before you've played a game. Especially, 173 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:30.279 you know, if you arrive in December or January as a football player, 174 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:35.159 it's considered an advance on I think, like appearance, community work, that 175 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:37.720 kind of stuff. And again, I think in whatever the writing of the 176 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:41.399 verbiage is, it's not to say that, you know, you got to 177 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:43.720 play football, but you got to you know, you got to be here 178 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:48.000 essentially and be a part of some of these engagements. So I don't know. 179 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:50.679 Trent and Flowers, of course is the guy who showed up and got 180 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:52.759 paid and left and he did get money. Now I was told that he 181 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:56.639 didn't get like, you know, the majority of what he was you know, 182 00:11:56.759 --> 00:12:01.320 supposed to be paid. But he did get more money. I mean, 183 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:05.080 he never played here, but he wasn't able to fulfill a lot of 184 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:07.000 those things that he was going to be a part of. That you know, 185 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:09.639 helped him get the nil that he needed. So I think now what 186 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:13.519 they're going to do to cover themselves a little better, as you know in 187 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:16.720 writing habit that if you you know, if you bail and you've not and 188 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:20.279 you've not been able to you know, fulfill what what was agreed upon, 189 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:22.480 then you owe us the money back. Now, will they ever get it 190 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:24.720 back, I'm not sure, but that'll that should at least make some of 191 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:31.799 these players consider you know, that that that decision, So we'll see. 192 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:37.919 I mean, I I I think that's a smart thing to do because and 193 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:41.159 that and that's that's the way you can do. And what I mean by 194 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:45.240 that is if you have something in writing that is not just to say, 195 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:46.559 hey, you know, I'm giving you this money and and you know it's 196 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:50.919 because you you know, I'm not even sure what an NIL contract would look 197 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:54.320 like because again, as far as the NSA is concerned, if you have 198 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:56.720 a if you have a contract that states, hey, I'm going to pay 199 00:12:56.720 --> 00:13:01.279 this guy two hundred thousand dollars to go play basketball at this school, I 200 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:03.320 mean that's a violation. Now would they be able to you know, and 201 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:05.639 we and again we all know that they are paying them to go do that, 202 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:09.279 But like if it's actually in writing, if the if it ever gets 203 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:11.240 to the point where the contract is brought up and it matters, you know, 204 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:15.840 it's not going to state that they signed to play here and be a 205 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:18.840 part of the team, and you know, they were required to score fifteen 206 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:22.639 points a game, so I guess bs it right. And and not to 207 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:26.320 say that their appearances and the community work whatever it is they do to fulfill 208 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:30.279 the obligation to the five oh two circle. It's not to say that that's 209 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:33.519 not important, but we all know like that's just a mirage for what this 210 00:13:33.559 --> 00:13:37.639 really is, because that's the way that it has to be done. All 211 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:39.799 right. Uh, five oh two five seventy nine hundred is the number. 212 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:41.919 If you guys want to give us a call. You can also text in 213 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:46.000 on the lln N Federal Credit Union tax line five oh two six five three 214 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:52.159 zero seven ninety. This says, this is a good one. Why don't 215 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:58.679 you tell your boyfriend Matt Jones to quit spreading misinformation about Brahm and the transfers. 216 00:13:58.960 --> 00:14:01.559 He said this morning that it's all about Louisville not having any money. 217 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:07.159 Well, I gotta be honest with you, I'd be really shocked if Matt 218 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:11.960 said something he wasn't quite sure of about Louisville and you know it ended up 219 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:15.639 not being true, be really be a real stunner. So I didn't hear 220 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:18.279 what he said, but I'm not if that is what he said, then 221 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:20.879 I wouldn't be surprised, and you know, it could be him just trying 222 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:24.600 to, you know, take a jab at Louisville because that's you know, 223 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:26.039 what we do in the rivalry, or you know, he could you know, 224 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:28.440 and I don't believe this, but I guess there's a chance it could 225 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:33.519 be him, just you know, not knowing anything but seeing what you know, 226 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:37.159 trolls are saying on the internet about Louisville not having any money. And 227 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:41.799 by the way, he's not my boyfriend. We're friends and I'm married. 228 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:46.080 He knows that he respects it. You know. It's we have boundaries, 229 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:52.480 we do. All right, Let's see before we take our next time out, 230 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:54.480 because there's a lot more that I want to get into, including some 231 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:58.679 NFL draft stuff and some portal stuff to get to as well, just some 232 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:03.240 player that you know are out there. I've still not seen anything about Chucky 233 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:09.039 Hepburn as far as somebody reporting that like he's visiting Louisville's the favorite. But 234 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:11.440 you know, when I say the noise, I mean like Trillie Donovan's discord 235 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:16.279 message boards. You know, people on Twitter that I don't even know if 236 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:20.440 they're real or if they're trolling. So I'm not saying the noise is valid, 237 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:22.240 but it's noise. It's out there that like Louisville is expected to get 238 00:15:22.279 --> 00:15:28.320 the Wisconsin transfer. So we can discuss that. But one thing I need 239 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:31.600 to do here is tell you once again about my friends at the louis of 240 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:37.440 Men's Clinic, because they are a full mail I mean, it's a full 241 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:45.279 male staff. But you know, just think of a variety of services that 242 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:48.320 you know, dudes need to be healthier and you know, have a better 243 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:50.879 sex life and that kind of stuff and just feel better, right they I 244 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:54.840 mean I mentioned specifically what they've done for me, which was the low testosterone, 245 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:58.679 but you know, rectatus function is a real thing and a lot of 246 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:03.960 people suffer from it and it's unfortunate. But I can't imagine having that and 247 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:06.519 not doing something about it. And that's something about it as reaching out to 248 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:08.320 the little of Men's Clinic. But maybe it's not d maybe it's you know, 249 00:16:08.360 --> 00:16:12.600 weight loss, maybe it's hair restoration. So they've been doing this for 250 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:17.799 over ten years and they wouldn't be able to stick around with such a great 251 00:16:17.799 --> 00:16:21.399 reputation if they weren't taken care of all of their their patients. So again, 252 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:22.879 go see them. I mean, I guess you could show up, 253 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:26.840 but I think they probably prefer that you give them a call. FABO two 254 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:29.919 four four four four thousand. That is the number, and the website is 255 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:33.480 Louisville Men's Clinic. So it's probably one of those things that once you, 256 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:34.840 you know, go talk to them and let them know, you know where 257 00:16:34.879 --> 00:16:38.519 you feel like they could potentially help you. I have full confidence they're going 258 00:16:38.519 --> 00:16:41.480 to do exactly that and help you, and then you'll be wishing that you 259 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:44.840 did it long a long time ago. So again, louile of Men's Clinic 260 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:48.399 dot com is the website. FABO two four four four four thousand. All 261 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:51.240 right, again, stick with us. We got a lot more to get 262 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:52.759 into. It is coffee and company. We are fueled bout Thornton's right here 263 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:56.879 on Sports Talk seven ninety so. One of the things I didn't mention when 264 00:16:56.879 --> 00:17:02.320 we were just discussing some minile stuff is that the campaign that was started earlier 265 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:07.559 this month, it's I mean, it's they They did exactly what they wanted 266 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:10.960 to do, which was raise a million dollars. So the five A two 267 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:15.079 circle shared this earlier this week. I believe it might have been Monday that 268 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:21.000 they officially hit one million dollars donated and one million has been matched by Globe 269 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:23.240 Brands, which of course is Rick Kiever. And that happened, I mean 270 00:17:23.359 --> 00:17:27.079 Louisville fans, and I believe there were a couple of real sizeable donations from 271 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:30.480 anonymous people. But either way, I mean, one million dollars raised in 272 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:36.319 roughly three weeks, and that now leaves you with two million dollars to work 273 00:17:36.359 --> 00:17:40.440 with in the portal. I mean, that's that's awesome. So and that's 274 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:45.160 just for men's basketball, but they are doing something similar with the women's basketball 275 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:49.240 program. So I would encourage folks to, you know, if you can 276 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:53.559 make it work financially, you know, do the same thing. So what 277 00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:56.559 they're going to do is try to get a goal of two hundred and fifty 278 00:17:56.559 --> 00:18:00.920 thousand dollars and then two anonymous don't will match. I guess they know who 279 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:04.400 they are, but they don't want to make it public. So fans collectively 280 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:10.079 can raise two hundred and fifty thousand that's going to go directly towards Jeff Wallace's 281 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:12.839 program, and it'll end up being a total of five hundred thousand dollars. 282 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:19.839 Uh for you know, for in IL that's and again the actual number that 283 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:23.599 that we hear about players, I still think it's it's extremely exaggerated. But 284 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:30.920 women's the going rate for women's basketball players in NIL is you know, substantially 285 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:33.400 lower. I mean you could still get I think you know, you can 286 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:37.480 still get a couple hundred thousand maybe, But again, like I would say 287 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:40.559 that that's like if that's the real hot price tag for like a star in 288 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:44.440 women's college basketball, just like you know, the two million dollar price tag 289 00:18:44.480 --> 00:18:47.759 for a star in men's basketball, I'd say both they're probably exaggerated, but 290 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:51.000 we'll never know. All Right, it is Coffee and Company, Phil but 291 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:53.240 Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety eight. Coffee. That's me the company 292 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:57.640 man, mister John dall On alongside today and if you did, if you 293 00:18:57.640 --> 00:19:02.200 didn't see the news earlier today and we didn't mention it briefly at the beginning 294 00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:04.319 of the show. But Mark Pope, I'll give him credit, he went 295 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:08.680 out and made a really, really good hire to his staff. So Alvin 296 00:19:08.680 --> 00:19:15.839 Brooks the third is joining the Mark joining the Kentucky staff after I believe it 297 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:18.640 was eight years working for Scott Drew at Baylor, So they couldn't get Drew, 298 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:25.160 but they got his assistant and his ace recruiter. And this is this 299 00:19:25.279 --> 00:19:30.440 was key for for Pope because you know, just because you've never been you 300 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:33.119 know, in those in those living rooms, which again I hate even saying 301 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:36.759 that, because, like I just I don't really think that's how recruiting works 302 00:19:36.759 --> 00:19:38.160 anymore. Like, hey, uh, let me show up at your at 303 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:41.319 your mom and dad's house and we'll sit in the living room and I'll tell 304 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:44.400 him about how how great of a role model I can be for their son, 305 00:19:44.400 --> 00:19:45.519 and I'm gonna turn him into a man. Like that's you know this 306 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:52.559 in Blue Chips. But just like Pat Kelsey, you know, Mark Pope 307 00:19:52.680 --> 00:19:56.440 is coming from a level of basketball that's just different. And yes, I 308 00:19:56.519 --> 00:19:59.240 know b Yu was in the Big twelve, but that was for one year. 309 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:02.200 I mean, he was only there one year. So and even that 310 00:20:02.279 --> 00:20:06.559 aside, I mean, BYU is a rare institution compared to most. So 311 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:11.599 I just I think Pat Kelsey is somebody that the way the reason he kept 312 00:20:11.599 --> 00:20:14.279 his staff the way he did. For the most part, they did go 313 00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:18.240 out and add an additional staffer whose name I forget, but he came from 314 00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:21.519 LSU and had previously been an old miss, so he is actually believed to 315 00:20:21.519 --> 00:20:25.319 be a good recruiter. But I actually think so far, we'll see. 316 00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:26.960 You know, obviously, you know it's very early, but I think what 317 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:33.839 was said about Pat Kelsey whenever we realized, Okay, it's going to either 318 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:38.559 be Shirts Kelsey or maybe may I mean, so once you knew you were 319 00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:41.160 going after a guy that had really never been at this level before. All 320 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:45.920 those who know Pat Kelcey and and you know have have covered him and are 321 00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:49.519 familiar with him, you know, of that pool of mid major type candidates, 322 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:52.920 everybody said Pat Kelsey would be the guy that would be able to step 323 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:56.799 to this level and recruit at a high level. Like there wouldn't be a 324 00:20:56.799 --> 00:21:00.759 big adjustment because as we've already learned, and we learned the day he was 325 00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:03.200 introduced as the coach, the man can sell. And you know, I'm 326 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:07.839 not going to get my hopes up, but it really sounds like Louisville. 327 00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:10.440 I mean, I know everybody's scared a penny hardaway in Memphis, and I 328 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:12.400 get it, but like I think Louisvell's got a chance to get Jade and 329 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:17.480 Quainton's I really do, and that would be huge and that would be a 330 00:21:17.519 --> 00:21:18.519 real tell. And now some would say, well, it's just because of 331 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:22.680 money. And you know, either way, nowadays, when we're going to 332 00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:26.839 be evaluating who is a great recruiter, it's not just you know, selling 333 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:30.359 and having a brand and having a vision and a resume that shows you can 334 00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:33.480 get guys to the next level. It's also going to be you know, 335 00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:36.119 and it really had nothing to do with you, I guess, I guess 336 00:21:36.160 --> 00:21:38.759 technically it can, right you wouldn't you need to be shaking hands and rubbing 337 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:42.480 elbows with with big donors and making them feel special and important so they'll give 338 00:21:42.519 --> 00:21:47.240 you money to use for anil So's that's a new layer, a new component 339 00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:49.079 if you will, to how we're going to be evaluating these guys' ability to 340 00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:53.960 recruit. So, you know, I regardless if people would just say, 341 00:21:53.960 --> 00:21:56.400 well, no, that's Pat Kelsey just using you know, the credit card. 342 00:21:56.440 --> 00:22:00.920 Either way, like, trust me, there'll be no slandering of p 343 00:22:02.119 --> 00:22:06.680 K if if he can land you know, the number eight player in America. 344 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:08.839 But again, I feel like even talking about it is leading to meet 345 00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:11.640 getting my hope. So, but I don't want to do that. I 346 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:17.200 don't so this this assistant coach from Mark Pope back to the Kentucky side of 347 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:19.279 it. Alvin Brooks, you know, he's been in he's been in recruiting 348 00:22:19.319 --> 00:22:25.279 battles and won. And Scott Drew is a good coach, and technically, 349 00:22:25.319 --> 00:22:27.839 you know, he gets credit for these recruiting classes. But I've always wondered, 350 00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:33.680 you know, how he can sell and recruit at such a high level 351 00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:42.839 when he's pretty vanilla himself. And it's Baylor in Waco, Texas, And 352 00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:47.920 I'm sure there's a variety of factors that go into them building really good classes 353 00:22:47.960 --> 00:22:49.039 each and every year they win. That's a big part of it. And 354 00:22:49.079 --> 00:22:52.640 they put guys in the league. But I wouldn't be shocked if it turned 355 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:57.119 out that Alvin Brooks actually was a was a huge factor in them being able 356 00:22:57.160 --> 00:23:00.119 to really just bring in elite players every year. Or Keyante George was a 357 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:04.000 lottery pick last year as a freshman for him, Jacoby Walker this past year 358 00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:07.200 as a freshman. Another guy that's going to go pro vj Edgecombe one of 359 00:23:07.240 --> 00:23:10.799 the best players in the twenty twenty four class. Then guy looks like an 360 00:23:10.839 --> 00:23:14.559 absolute phenom. Apparently Alvin Brooks was a part of that. I mean, 361 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:17.599 he was the lead recruiter for that young man. And you can even go 362 00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:22.640 back to Jeremy soshan or so I think it's Ochin. I believe he played 363 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:23.799 at Baylor in twenty twenty one when they won the title, had like the 364 00:23:23.880 --> 00:23:27.359 yellow hair. So that's a guy who was a one and done and a 365 00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:33.759 lottery pick. So Brooks I think has been a key figure in Baylor's recruiting 366 00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:36.680 success. And now he's going to be coaching at Kentucky, So I think 367 00:23:36.680 --> 00:23:41.000 that was big for Mark Poe. Are you sensing John, you know, 368 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:42.759 just from what you see out there on the world wide web? I guess 369 00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:48.160 mostly Twitter. I mean, are you feeling Kentucky fans getting uneasy that they 370 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:53.000 still don't have, like, you know, three players. I think most 371 00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:56.559 of the fans are taking everything in stride, and honestly, I know it 372 00:23:56.599 --> 00:24:00.480 won't be to the same effect as John Caliperry, but I bet by the 373 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:03.720 time we get to June and July, they'll feel like they've won the offseason 374 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:07.000 again. Again, not in the exact same way that they would with Cali 375 00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:11.039 Perry, but they're going to go into the fall feeling confident about Mark Pope 376 00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:14.920 in year one. Whether that turns out to be anything, we'll have to 377 00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:18.240 wait and see, but I think they'll be excited. I think all I 378 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:22.240 think both fan bases can feel a little I mean, everybody's on edge, 379 00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:25.279 and it's not as if you're panicking, as if you're thinking this is going 380 00:24:25.319 --> 00:24:30.680 to be awful. But this is unusual territory for both sides here to literally 381 00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:33.720 be building an entire team, and that's what's happening. But once you see 382 00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:37.720 there's a lot of visits scheduled and lined up from a variety of players, 383 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:38.559 I think that puts you at ease a little bit, and you know, 384 00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:41.359 like, hey, the process is playing out. I can maybe be a 385 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:45.119 little bit more patient than you know I was previously. But on the Louisville 386 00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:48.680 side, it's not everybody, but there's some that wants a visit ends, 387 00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:52.359 like for example, Wesley Yates, who was on campus yesterday, the Washington 388 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:57.079 transfer, former top forty guard from Texas. You know, he may have 389 00:24:57.319 --> 00:25:00.720 ended his visit today. Maybe he's flying home that day. I don't know, 390 00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:02.519 But there are something that's like, well, I guess we'll move on 391 00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:06.359 from him. I don't think you have to commit while you're there. In 392 00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:07.759 fact, I don't think that's really how it happens, and I wouldn't be 393 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:11.000 shocked if if maybe he did, or maybe Trey or the Long Beach State 394 00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:15.279 transfer did commit, and they're just waiting and staggering it out. So each 395 00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:19.799 each commit can get a couple maybe a few days in the limelight where hey, 396 00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:22.319 they're the new addition, they're the exciting new piece to the team, 397 00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:25.880 and I think that's I think it makes sense and that's the way they should 398 00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:33.160 go about it. So I think Kentucky will who knows, right, maybe 399 00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:37.480 the roster ends up being really good, but I think it's gonna come down 400 00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:42.799 like they're they're maybe not their confidence level, but like their cockiness, because 401 00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:45.799 you know, let's be real, they have a lot of arrogant fans, 402 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:48.680 and as I've said many times, even though a lot of them are over 403 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:52.279 the top, like they're arrogance in college basketball is justified, just based off 404 00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:55.359 the fact that they've been a really good program over time, but now it's 405 00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:56.480 a new era. Their coach is not a cocky person. He may be 406 00:25:56.599 --> 00:26:00.480 good, but like Cali Perry again was the perfect fit there because of that 407 00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:03.599 component. But back to Cal Perry, like, I think they're going to 408 00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:07.559 be feeling good and maybe they'll be cocky, but that will only be if 409 00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:11.119 Cali Perry looks as if he had a tough time putting together a team, 410 00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:12.279 and like his team looks like they're not gonna be good. Wohld't you say 411 00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:17.480 so? Yeah, that's fair because that's what they're going to compare themselves to. 412 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:21.279 Its normal. It's normal. You know, it's totally normal for them 413 00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:23.920 to even if they tell themselves not to. I think the you know, 414 00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:29.119 the the human element is a powerful thing to where you know, if Cal 415 00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:32.240 reels in, which, by the way, John L. Davis, the 416 00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:36.480 FAU transfer, the latest is that he's expected to end up at Arkansas, 417 00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:37.759 which would be a good get. He's one of the top three players in 418 00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:42.599 the portal. So you know, if if if Cal puts together like a 419 00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:48.920 really really good team with a bunch of high caliber transfers, I mean he's 420 00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:55.799 already brought how many of those freshmen I know Boogie Flans visiting UH Arkansas maybe 421 00:26:55.880 --> 00:27:02.559 today or at least he's scheduling one. He's at a Carter nots not gonna 422 00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:04.720 get Jaden Quainton's, which of course was a big piece Billy Richmond did he 423 00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:08.440 ended up at Arkansas. Not sure either way. If cal puts together a 424 00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:15.240 really really good team that has a nice a nice set of good, high 425 00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.440 caliber freshmen, but then the bulk of the roster is really good transfers, 426 00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:22.440 and there's all kinds of buzz about Cal Perry and year one at Arkansas, 427 00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:26.720 he's gonna have it rolling. I think that would probably not make Kentucky fans 428 00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:27.960 feeld man. I don't know, maybe it would. I'm not a psychologist, 429 00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:30.720 but like, I don't think they're going to be a chesty if on 430 00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:33.440 paper, it looks like Arkansas is about to be really good in year one. 431 00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:37.240 In Kentucky, you know, looks like they're gonna be a work in 432 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:41.319 progress, which like that's just the reality of it. It's not to say 433 00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:42.759 they can't end up being good and maybe make a deep run. Who knows. 434 00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:47.319 We're so far away from that. But I am very curious to see 435 00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:55.279 once the rosters do come together, what the average you know, I don't 436 00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:57.119 see average fan, but like, because there'll be some people that are like, 437 00:27:57.160 --> 00:28:00.200 well, if they just make the tournament. I'm gonna happy because man 438 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:03.519 loible I had made the tournament in years. And there'll be some that say, 439 00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:04.920 no, we're going to hold Pat Kelcey to a high standard. Look 440 00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:07.519 at his roster, he's good. So you know, everybody's gonna have their 441 00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:10.880 own opinions. But I'm just curious, like, what what the what the 442 00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:15.119 consensus is going to be as far as just what should be expected in year 443 00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:18.880 one, And I'm curious to see, like which fan base has more patience. 444 00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:22.559 I think it's got to be Louisville. And it's not because you know, 445 00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:25.720 we're just a much more patient fan base. It's just because of the 446 00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:29.799 situation. We're coming off of two miserable years that we never want to remember. 447 00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:33.920 So you know, the bar is so low for Pat Kelsey to give 448 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:36.599 us a lot more than what we had in the last couple of years, 449 00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:37.359 and I think you can do even better than that. It's just, you 450 00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:41.000 know, it's tough to really go there whenever we don't even know for sure 451 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:47.160 who's who's going to be on the team yet, all right, so have 452 00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:52.359 you I know, yesterday the big news was the the the the ending of 453 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:56.200 non competes, which I kind of feel once again, you know, like 454 00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:57.240 a dummy, Like I know what a non compete is. I have a 455 00:28:57.279 --> 00:29:03.000 non compete. It's very common in in you know, this world of media, 456 00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:07.680 radio, broadcasting, TV, that kind of stuff, but I didn't 457 00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:12.480 realize how many. And for those who know, so the FTC voted to 458 00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:17.079 ban non compete agreements. It will I mean, I think it's going to 459 00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:18.119 be challenged and we'll see what happens from there. But like, this is 460 00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:21.599 a huge piece of news that I guess if you've never had a non compete, 461 00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:23.359 and you don't, it's not something that you ever see in your line 462 00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:26.400 of work that I'm sure you don't. You don't give a damn And I 463 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:29.119 get it, but I was I had no clue that, like you can 464 00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:32.319 be a construction worker, you can work at a fast food restaurant, and 465 00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:36.720 there are some you know, some employers that have have it in there that 466 00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:41.079 there's a non compete, which you know, it's always been really really stupid, 467 00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:45.559 but I just assumed it was. You know, again, like I've 468 00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:49.039 non competes have never impacted me in a negative way, right, Like I've 469 00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:52.920 never had an issue where I wanted to leave somewhere, Like It's never been 470 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.240 an issue for me, but I've always thought, you know, the basis 471 00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.559 of it is like if they fire me, I can't go work somewhere in 472 00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.720 you know, a field that was six months or something like that. Yeah, 473 00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:07.839 in the field. I mean this, you know it, This is 474 00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:15.440 this industry of radio is obviously you know, it's evolving quite a bit each 475 00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:18.599 year. But although you know I say that, but I think most people 476 00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:21.880 realize this. There's still a ton of people that listen to the radio every 477 00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:25.599 single day of their life because of their trip in the car, or they're 478 00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:27.640 listening maybe just on the app because they're at homes. Like there's listenership is 479 00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:30.000 not an issue, it's just the way people consume it. It's different. 480 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:33.720 But what I was getting at is like if I ever didn't want to do 481 00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.240 this anymore, or if I got fired and you know, couldn't get a 482 00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:40.759 new gig, I'm not really sure what I would do. But like in 483 00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:42.519 my adult life, this is now my this is what I do. Like 484 00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:47.880 I've done this longer than I've done anything else, and therefore, like if 485 00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:49.799 I needed to go get a job and provide for my family. It's not 486 00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:53.000 as easy to do because again, these aren't positions that you just see, 487 00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:56.480 you know, hundreds of in every city or whatever. Like it's just it's 488 00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:00.240 unique. But like it would be what I would try to do because it's 489 00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:02.160 the best way where I can say, hey, here's who I am, 490 00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:03.680 this is what I do, and you know, please hire me. I'm 491 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.839 poor like that kind of thing. So this is I mean, I just 492 00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:14.559 I'm almost speechless as far as like what this could what this could do for 493 00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.480 not just this industry, but like a lot of industries. And again, 494 00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.279 did you know that, John, Like there's like entry level jobs that are 495 00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:26.720 not lucrative, and like there were it all started from like a Jimmy John's 496 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.359 employee that like if they if they got fired, they couldn't go work at 497 00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.000 a restaurant within so many miles of a Jimmy John's. I mean, just 498 00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:37.400 think about that. I did not know that because you can and and what 499 00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:41.640 really and again this has never happened to me, but I'm sure it's happened 500 00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.680 to many others that have fallen in this non compete situation. You know, 501 00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:48.039 they can hold that over your head, like you know, you better be 502 00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.240 you better do whatever I say and just suck it up and deal with potentially 503 00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:56.680 a toxic work environment or whatever it may be, because we can you're asked 504 00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:57.920 and you can't work, and you don't have to go, you know, 505 00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:00.799 you have to go get a job doing something else. Like I doubt that 506 00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:07.240 that's you know that there have been many managers or bosses that have said that 507 00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:10.559 exact thing, but they could they could, they could say without saying it 508 00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:15.640 and and just know that you're stuck. So this is huge. I mean, 509 00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:21.200 there are hairstylists that that have worked in salons that have that have that 510 00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:23.319 have you know, because I guess it's part of the fine print, because 511 00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:25.279 I feel like in something. Again, what do I know? I've not 512 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:28.960 had a variety of different jobs. This is again, this is what I've 513 00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:31.680 done my adult life more than anything else. But if I was going to 514 00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:37.400 take one of those positions, it you know, rather it be a construction 515 00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:44.240 or a salon, a hairstylist, or an employee at a restaurant, which 516 00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:47.440 just sounds crazy, Like I would know that I could get other jobs doing 517 00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:51.799 that, to where I would say, I'm not signing that that's not worth 518 00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:52.839 it. I don't know, I'm getting ready to start this job. I 519 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:55.440 would agree to that. Now this could suck and I would want to leave. 520 00:32:57.079 --> 00:32:59.440 But maybe people don't look at it, or maybe they just assume, 521 00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:04.279 or maybe it is the case that like every type of business, every business 522 00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:07.200 that falls under that that category does it. But it's a big deal, 523 00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:10.640 no doubt. And then take the words from Terry Minors, we all contentally 524 00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:14.240 get in our own transfer portal. Now, yeah, I mean I guess 525 00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:17.519 technically, you know, we could, and that's just weird to think about 526 00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:20.799 it. I mean, I mean, I'm not that I'm thinking about doing 527 00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:22.960 it, but you know, it's just it's it's been I mean, here 528 00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:25.880 I am in my own bubble because I know there are sales professionals out there 529 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:30.039 that have that have always hit a non compete and it's impacted their ability to 530 00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:32.400 go you know, you know that take tom off and lose money because of 531 00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:37.759 you know, the agreement they had with their previous employer. But you know, 532 00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:40.799 I just always think about TV and radio to where you know, people 533 00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:45.200 are usually at a because here's the thing, if your contract runs out, 534 00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:50.000 by the way, they never let that happen because they you know, they 535 00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:52.799 want to make sure that you can't just up and leave and go across the 536 00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:54.480 street at a different at a different TV station or something if you wanted to. 537 00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:58.640 So, you know, I think even I could be wrong here, 538 00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:00.920 and I guess everybody's contracts different, but I think if you just decided you 539 00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:04.079 weren't you weren't gonna sign again, they would pressure you and almost force you 540 00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:05.839 to or find out, you know, they would they would take that as 541 00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:08.039 if you're leaving and probably do something about it and get rid of you. 542 00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:14.000 But yeah, they would always there's it's just never been a scenario where you 543 00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:17.159 could literally go from one place to the other, regardless if your contract ended 544 00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:21.199 or if you got fired for like at least six months, usually longer than 545 00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:23.280 that, and denote it. Now like potentially you could do that. It's 546 00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:27.679 just crazy. All right, quick break, we will keep this thing rolling 547 00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:30.599 along. Appreciate you guys hanging out with US Coffee and Company. I feel 548 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:35.400 by Thornton's on a sports talk seven ninety. Let's go to the text line, 549 00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:37.679 shall we? Five two six five three zero seven ninety ellen n Federal 550 00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:42.639 Credit Union text line members get more at Ellenn Federal Credit Union. You can 551 00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:45.599 learn more and open your account today at LLNFCU dot com. All right, 552 00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:47.760 so this Texas, Nick, what are their percentage? What do you think 553 00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:52.679 the percentage chances are that Louisville lends another commitment before your show ends. You 554 00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:58.719 asked me that a thirty minutes ago, roughly, I mean, I don't 555 00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:02.239 know. I mean, let's get the coffee crystal balls sit a couple of 556 00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:07.119 days ago. There's a sixty five percent chance they won't, thirty five percent 557 00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:09.119 chance they will. I mean, I'm just guessing. I don't know. 558 00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:13.519 I mean, I do think when you don't. Again, I said this 559 00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:16.119 earlier. What the best way I've been able to you know, at least 560 00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:20.039 be somewhat accurate. And again I'm just guessing like anybody else. But the 561 00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:23.480 pattern that I follow is visits that are scheduled for these guys. So if 562 00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:28.400 you visited Louisville and there at least isn't any reporting out there as far as 563 00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:30.880 other schools you're going to go visit, and the noise the buzz that the 564 00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:35.920 visit went really well, then I would assume that you know, you could 565 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:39.159 you could. I mean that to be that that could be Yates. Wesley 566 00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:44.000 Yates, the transfer from Washington who visited yesterday maybe still here today, I'm 567 00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:49.199 not sure. Or it could also be Trey or the Long Beach State transfer, 568 00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:52.280 which I still think they're in good shape. And what makes me think 569 00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:54.760 that they've got a good chance of getting him is because again I'm certainly not 570 00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:59.480 plugged in like others are, but I don't see other schools lining him up 571 00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:01.039 for visits, which maybe that means that he's ready to commit to Louisville and 572 00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:05.119 it'll happen soon, so you never know. Now. One thing to keep 573 00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:07.840 in mind that you know, I'll be honest with you. I would have 574 00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:09.760 never known, but somebody's telling me this the other day, and it makes 575 00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:14.719 total sense that if you have a guy who's been injured before, you know 576 00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:17.920 you can, you can be all in and say hell yeah, like you 577 00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:21.159 know, let's do this, we want, we want you and you know 578 00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:22.599 I can't talk to you about it, but you know, you talk to 579 00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:27.400 whoever about the NIL package and we're good to go. But the school is 580 00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:29.679 still going to do I guess the program is still going to do their due 581 00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:31.679 diligence and make sure that these guys are going to be able to play right. 582 00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:35.480 They want to make sure that they can get somebody to review something or 583 00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:39.079 maybe do some kind of a medical evaluation in some form or fashion. So 584 00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:43.440 that would be the case I would assume with Wesley Yates, considering the fact 585 00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:45.400 that you know, he didn't play last year because of an injury. So 586 00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:47.960 I don't think it's serious and I think he is going to be fully fine 587 00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:51.159 next year. But that's more. I wouldn't call it a formality, but 588 00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:54.280 that's just really covering your rear end, because let's be real, somebody could 589 00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:58.840 easily know that they've got an injury that they're not really going to be able 590 00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:01.519 to play through, and you know, maybe they're going to need surgery, 591 00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:04.239 but they don't want to do. Like, you know, I think this 592 00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:06.800 would be a very rare situation, But it would not shock me at all 593 00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:09.239 if somebody's out there back chasing money for NIL knowing that they are not gonna 594 00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:12.679 be able to play right like, that wouldn't shock me at all. In 595 00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:15.239 fact, you know, you never know. But Tyler Barron, the guy 596 00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:20.599 who transferred with his step brother from Tennessee that left earlier this week, I 597 00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:23.559 mean, he didn't play because he's injured, And I would never indicate that 598 00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:27.719 somebody's not injured when they claim that they are. But you know, you 599 00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:30.320 know, you'll never know that for sure, Like I mean, he kind 600 00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:36.599 of just couldn't go, is what it sounds like. So sometimes these guys, 601 00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:38.400 it may be done, and maybe Pat Kelsey, the player, everybody 602 00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:42.000 involved wants it to be public, but there's, you know, a little 603 00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:45.239 bit of a process that goes with it. All right, Let's see back 604 00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:50.039 to the text Lin five O two six five three zero seven ninety. It's 605 00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:52.400 the Ellen and Federal Credit Union tex Line. This text says, Nick, 606 00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:54.719 who do you believe will be the first low of a player drafted this weekend? 607 00:37:55.639 --> 00:38:02.920 I would say it's most likely going to be Jarvis Browne, cornerback, 608 00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:06.159 who, of course, you know, had a heck of a season this 609 00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:07.920 past you really had a good run at Louisville. It's either going to be 610 00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:13.639 him, or I would say Jamari Thresh. But then again, like his 611 00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:17.760 injury last year, and there's so many receivers in this draft, and I 612 00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:21.920 think he'll get drafted, but you know where it is, I'm not sure. 613 00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:23.840 Like he's somebody that I think the range is pretty wide for him, 614 00:38:24.280 --> 00:38:27.639 and there's a lot to like there, not that I'm an NFL scout, 615 00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:30.840 but he's really good and I could see him having a good career in the 616 00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:35.920 NFL. Isaac Garrindo, maybe he'll be in the mix at some point. 617 00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:39.920 And running backs specifically are always tough to know because you could get I mean, 618 00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:45.960 I hope both Grindo and Jordan get drafted, but it wouldn't totally shock 619 00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:50.119 me if like they don't, because running backs, for guys you can just 620 00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:52.000 go sign and I hate that for the position. I don't know what you 621 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:57.360 could do about it, but you know, just because that position is not 622 00:38:57.480 --> 00:39:00.000 as valuable as it once was. Now you need a good running back, 623 00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:02.159 but you can now get the work done without giving somebody. I mean, 624 00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:05.920 it's just I don't know what you do to fix it, but you know, 625 00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:07.280 the window for these guys to make a lot of money is a lot 626 00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:10.679 shorter because you can't play that position nearly as long as you can other positions. 627 00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:15.360 And you know, when you've got a chance to cash in, it's 628 00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:17.199 so easy for a team to just tell, you know, because the proof 629 00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:23.400 is there, you know, giving your primary running back who's been super effective, 630 00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:27.360 really good, one of the league's best giving him a long term deal 631 00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:30.639 with a lot of guaranteed money on it. Has one ever worked out? 632 00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:32.960 I mean, I'm sure you can find one that was maybe a three year 633 00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:37.000 deal or something like that, but like it just that's I think the evidence 634 00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:40.800 makes it clear that most organizations, honestly understandably so are gonna be mindful of 635 00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:45.639 that. Like if you are growing up playing football and you are in the 636 00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:49.280 at the age where you're still developing, like you're you know, you're you 637 00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:51.119 know, you're you're sharing, we're talking, you know, I don't know, 638 00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:53.159 I'm fifteen years old or something, and you know, like you could 639 00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:58.079 play like you have some familiarity with a few different positions, why would you 640 00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:00.119 pick running back? Like, if that's true, what you know would be 641 00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:04.679 your calling card and that is the best chance for you to get noticed and 642 00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:07.280 you know, get a scholarship, potentially make the NFL. Then you know, 643 00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:09.639 obviously, but if you know, you can do other things too. 644 00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:14.199 Like that's at an age where like if I'm a parent, I would say, 645 00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:15.360 look, I think you're a good running back. We can make some 646 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:17.360 plays. You can play in high school, but I want you to to 647 00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:21.159 really show what you can do as a defensive back because you've got the ability. 648 00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:24.880 Let's sharpen up those skills, because of longevity and because of you know, 649 00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:29.440 I mean just I mean, I would never tell my kid he couldn't 650 00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:31.480 play the position that I wanted him to play. But Adrian Peterson talked about 651 00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:35.599 that a few years ago. How if he could go back, he would 652 00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:42.159 have never played running back? And I get it all right, We've got 653 00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:45.440 two hours in the books with one more to go. Let's finish strong. 654 00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:47.239 I say, lets as if you guys are going to be required to do 655 00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:52.480 anything, you got to sit back, make yourself at home. The company 656 00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:54.840 man John's got us in good hands. You want to host the show, 657 00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:59.360 I'm gonna leave see you just nothing. But who's your talk? Right? 658 00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:02.800 That's right? Talking about Aaron Casey in the draft? Who's that Indiana's linebacker? 659 00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:07.320 Probably the only guy who might get drafted from Indiana's roster? What range 660 00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:13.039 we looking at? Rounds five through seven before gas? When's the last time 661 00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:15.960 Indiana had got drafted. They've had a few the past few years. It's 662 00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:19.840 been a while since they've had a draft without somebody. They's usually gonna have 663 00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:22.880 a lot. How about that, and it'll it's all gonna change. It's 664 00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.400 gonna be a very lot of Signette flavor in these future drafts, right, 665 00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:28.880 a lot. It's a lot of sig dupness. Love it all right, 666 00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:30.639 don't go anywhere. It's coffee and Company. We are feel about Thornton's right 667 00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:36.159 here on Sports Talk seven ninety