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It is John in April from Midnight Squatchers. Welcome to the show. Hey,
you're right, thank you. I am glad to have you both.
Let's get right into it. Let's talk about this bigfoot thing. John.
Let's start with you. I like to start in the simplest of places.
Sometimes it's not so simple. What guy you interested in the subject of bigfoot
sasquatch? To begin with? I was probably back in the early seventies,
always been into horror, flex and stuff since a kid. But of course
the passing Gimman film All the Old in Search of I followed that pretty heavily.
I was born in sixty five, so early seventies there wasn't a lot
of literature on the bigfoot subject. It was sparsely. I've been into anything
goes Pampa the night, but big pols. My poor Kat just always thoughts
got to be something to this. As a kid, and being a border
raised in northern California, being around that area, there's quite a bit of
sightings. That's what got me started into that as a kid, and I
just went from there. It just took off. What about you, April?
Was it meeting John so many years ago that got you interested in the
subject? Was Bigfoot on your radar before you? Guys met and my grandma,
my great grandma, I was just say, don't go into woods at
night by yourself, because they're out there. I didn't really listen to all
them. I went out there anyway, and I just like the woods,
never seen nothing. And then we were going on a vacation and I had
a shutting out in Georgia and never told nobody. Then he was telling me
about his encounters and stuff. That's how it at where we are now.
I definitely want to get into your siding in Georgia. I was born and
raised in Georgia, so those kind of sidings in those areas always fascinate me.
But John, let's move back to you. Let's talk a little bit
about Obviously you were a kid, you were interested in this. Did you
start going out in the woods looking for Bigfoot and that led to an encounter?
Take us back to where you were, what you were doing, and
tell us what happened during your first experience. My dad was a fishing new
commissioner, so we were always out in the woods. My dad and mom
were like Billy go chouting the mom bay. We'd love to go rock fishing,
so we were always out fishing in the woods. As a kid,
mainly did hiding like foul. I didn't do to much of the deer or
any but he had a lot of different apple orchards and he managed and I
was able to get out there in the orchards where I've heard a lot of
sidings fromm and his friend that lived right down the road from us, a
six thousand acre cattle ranch which borders started Santa Cruz Mountains, where a lot
of sidings, or even on the BFRO sites and different areas, there's still
some reports of them. That's where I grew up and hung out. So
I was always out in the woods, and I as a kid, I
thought I'd seen something, but I didn't know what I knew. Now,
we see a cow walking over in the moonlight on the six thousand cattle ranch
towards a lake he had out there by the mountain. I just thought it
was a cow walking sideways. I didn't think nothing about Bigfoot. So that's
a possibility I look back at it. But that's what kind of got me
into this. As a teenageer, I would always be I'd run them woods.
I'd drive around, had a sixty three and powler, I'd be out.
I'd pick up any Bay girls guys, they let's just go up to
the woods. So I I was always out in the woods driving around.
I'm knowing of them guys to drive out through the one two in the morning,
as long as I can stay out till I got tired and it come
back. I roamed them wood Senator's Mountains. They went up by Lower Prieta
where the earthquake hit in eighty nine, and all through there. So it's
a lot of mountains and a lot of woods out to the Redwoods. I
was always out there in the eighties, I camped out there. Ever,
it's some strange noises. Again, if I knew what I knew now,
it would have been a game changer. But over the years we all evolved.
We learn as we go. In the nineties is where it really started
hitting me. I was going to the divorce and had just lost my dad,
so I'll spent a lot of time in the woods. Just wanted to
get out there. It's good for the health. Again. I picked up
people, Hey, let's go camp and let's go here whoever I can find
that dragon with me. In the early nineties, I was camping out there
and we took a walk, probably a good eight mile hike down places where
I was born and raised there. Never went down these trails. I always
been asthmatic and had bronchitis, so I really didn't venture too far, but
I pushed my limits that day. Thank god, it was all downhill,
but all the way down hill. I think we got about maybe four miles
into the hike and there was a little metal clearing and I never forget this.
I was with my son, he was very young at the time,
and a friend of my named Rodrigo and his dog. We've seen this big
teepee structure over by the edge of the field by the Redwoods. It was
just a little clearing. I'm talking maybe one hundred feet at the max.
I couldn't make it over there. It was a real thick rush and he
goes John, he know what's that? And I told him I don't know,
but I read stories about these teepee structures that they put might make and
he'd laughed to be off, Bigfoot, you and your big butt. He
never did believe in it. It was intriguing because it looked teepy and woven
together, but it was about twelve foot tall and it was a little opening,
so that kind of stood out to me. Well, we continue a
hike and we're going to start back up the day he went by, and
they never didn't make it back up to the way We had to get a
ride backed up. It was just too far. That night we were camp
and I'm going to start from the beginning how things escalated from there? Have
been out. Yeah, you hear your raccoons once in a while. We're
primitive way in the back. We're doing too many campers out there, and
everybody started retired, going to be like, I'm gonna have a beer and
I'll turn in a little bit, so you guys have a good night.
So I'm sitting a by myself. And you always hear them little scury,
it'll be a scroll whatever. It gets to you a little bit, and
I don't get scared too easy. But I heard this howl and the only
that I can way related to is the Ohio how you had that real dragged
out came way down in the ravine there in the brother down the mountain,
had to be at least a mile away. It was like that real dragged
out moan. It went on for a good twenty five thirty seconds, and
it just got to me and I thought, I've been out in the woods
a lot, but that's different. I think that's what people here A lot
of different stories in the seventies seen rod More heads of chatter that they record
serra sounds, but this was a moan. It was just different. That
kind of nerved me. And I always said in my eyes glued to the
forest ever since and drove them roads. Fast forward to about to the mid
nineties. I had met my second wife and we were just date at the
time, and I was coming over the hill and it was probably only about
ten thirty night, bright moonlit night. We're coming on the pool offs overlooking
the Monterey Bay, which is a beautiful place. I missed that place growing
up. There see the lights of Santa Cruz on one side, Monterey and
the other and my hometown walking all down below. We went there maybe five
minutes and we were just sitting there, chattering, overlooking and just doing what
a couple does. And all of a sudden, I read this bloom right
against my window, the driver's side, and it startled us. We got
spooked, and I looked and there was a dirt mark. If you ever
see a bird hit the window on the feathers, that's what it looked like,
a dirt mark. I am pretty got you all the time, opened
the door and got out, and I was thinking, something's out here.
I didn't know what. Maybe it was a person messing with I don't know.
So I got out and there was a dirt clod and it was for
Jenna summer where for a bright moment and lit it looked like the whole mountains
let up the road down it's just like. So I turned the light.
But there was a dirt clod broken in three places, real hard where it
had hitten and broke. Right When I got out of the door to look
at the clotter hurt some movement up on the hill. It's about fifty foot
it goes up and there is a house way up on the hill, but
sparsely have it. They ain't too me houses around. It doesn't making me
said, so it was standing up there by the red woods on this stow
pine tree, but the pine tree was swaying back and forth, and the
rocks were tingling down to the road, the road that goes around up to
the Malamadonna, the park there. Later on up the hill, I thought,
geez, something must have been standing there. So I started trying to
figure out. But if he threw the rock at me, how can it
do a boomerang and come back and hit That'll make any sense. I started
thinking that said she's let's just go. I don't like it here. I'm
getting the willy Jilly's nice when you get out here. So I kind of
feeling that something. You get that feeling, like that sense of something watching
you. And off to my left where that rock had come tord and hit
the car, I never seen nothing, but I had a feeling something was
there. Your sense tells you it's time to go, and we all have
that, and it happens. And I've been out in the woods a lot.
If you feel something's not right, it probably isn't. We got in
the car and proceeded out of there, and I just didn't think much of
it after that. So fast forward two years ago. Now, so that's
two kind of incidents. And I compiled and said, yeah, maybe who
knows. I don't know. Baby. I hadn't picked up a friend of
mine and we're gonna go up the road, and I told, let's just
go up and we'll cruise around and I'll had long glass business, John's Autoglass,
so I had my own glass shop. I had a little try to
pick up the campus shell and I go, I'm gonna put a couple of
beers in the back and we'll go on the back roads and open the slider
and when we're way up there's the way around. We can pull one out
and have one this cruise some of the log roads because it's only ten fifteen
miles an hour up there, so I usually no one out there and you
can't get through part times you're gonna have to back up for wasts it till
you find a little room to get by. We had been out and probably
were out there being at least nine thirty till about almost one. I'd say,
you know, we're coming back down the road. And when you come
down that back road, it's very dark, desolate, and its wiggles around
down the hill and we're about three corters the way down, almost down to
the bottom, and there was a little like creek that comes down to a
runoff and it cleared up. There was another bright lit night and we had
to us arrest. You have a berry. You had to go sooner later
I said, yeah, I go pull over as you're there in there and
you can get off. We got off, you see, to go about
maybe ten put away back from the truck there, and we're doing our duty.
Before you can say thing. He goes. My nickname is jay d
and he he goes. He starts stuttering, and this guy don't stuttering.
He's pointing out and you're looking about a forty five or gree angle and he
goes straight down their side, five hundred feet all the way down. We're
on the edge of a mountain. And I looked at him and go,
what's wrong with you? And he points and I looked up and I see
this at least nine foot tall or foot wire the shoulders, there's no neck.
It was just like that to me. I always said this Danny Prez
wrote about in Bigfoot Times back April issue of twenty two. But it just
looked like there was just a bump on the shoulders. It wasn't really much
of a hedge around, but the shoulders was what got to me. And
just it was out in normal. It just didn't look right. It's just
huge. But I can see it from about the thighs up and this things
swaying and it starts a grunt, and like a deep girl grunt. What
swaying? I had one long bud bottles, only had maybe a quarter of
that left. I don't know why I did this. But I looked up
and I was staring at this day and I was there me fifteen seconds and
I look up and I went hey, and I yelled, and I was
again. I threw that bottle up, which went about ten feet. It
didn't go very far. It clinked around, and this thing froze. Now
my mind, I got out of there, but I didn't run. Believe,
when I walked real fast, I was afraid that I ran. Something
was gonna Really this thing would have chased me if it was what I think
it was. But when I threw that bottle and it stopped, I knew
I was looking at something. And I started hearing what steps crouching through the
ground, But I never did see a move. I turned around right when
I heard that it sounded like it was coming down towards me. I got
back in my truck. Never did roll back up the window, which I
found out later. I got down the hill. I was so scared.
I've never been that scared in my life. They proceeded down the hill.
He can only go about ten fifteen miles an hour down this road. He
ain't gonna just motor down there. That's what I wanted to do. But
there was just no possible way. I never looked back. I started the
truck and got the heck out. I never looked back. I didn't realize
that the window down to Maybe twenty minutes later, I got down the hill
and I fell a week about was in shot. Like I said, I
did write about it and Bigfoot times. The only thing I could compared it
to is my dad would help out with the promotion of a lot of wrestlers
back in the day, and I've met Andrea a few times. He was
a pretty cant over my head in a little Montoya. This thing made Andrea
look like a midget. I've never seen. How can something be on this
planet that huge and that wide and that mass. It just didn't make any
sense. But we got down the hill. My friend he had looked at
me and go shoot. I forgot to zip up and do what I had
to do. He just looked at me. What the heck was that?
He didn't talk to me all the way down. He was scared, and
I told him, I think all this time I've been coming up here,
he's been on me several times ago. I think I've finally seen what I
wanted to see. I don't want to see it again. It just freaked
me out that area. I've been back twice during the day now. I've
flown out to California's my hometown many times of April, and we've got a
little HONDI ret car and I tried to get down that place at night,
and I can't do it. I can go anywhere, I can go by
myself. I go around the Differens area til four am, walking sometimes by
myself, which I shouldn't, but I cannot get myself to go back down
at one road. I don't know why. I've tried, and you get
about three carlings. It's dark. I get the chills even thinking about it.
I just want to turn around. I just don't want to go down
there. I don't either. Man, she'd have been down there. She
goes the way it looked. I don't want to go down there. But
it's mossy, it's dark, it's the redwood. So that was the first
sighting I had. That was ninety seven. About a year later, I
had my kids playing in the back of the truck and me and my second
wife were cruising around and we had went out again. Like I said,
I'd go out there two or three times a week, just driving around to
see what I could see him. And we were coming around the band on
the other side, this would be towards the coachs. Coming down the other
side of the road and around the bind, there's a I never forget there
was a little picked white fence that it was a little road where it narrows
to one lane. It's just a little it's got a covert goes on her
sow. It's real narrow there and then it turns around the corner. We
were coming there and we went around that and there's nobody around, just to
us, and it's about ten at night. Maybe it was getting towards October,
so we got darker earlier. And I remember my kids were playing in
the back and they were goofing around in the back of the shove of the
truck. As I came around the bend, I've seen a block and it
didn't look massive, nothing like what I've seen up on the other side.
It looked real skinny and almost like a basketball player, but tall seven and
a half eight foot tall crossed the road. As we came around, I
caught just you can see the firns was walking it's a quick bluer has it
cross the road and hopped over this little road and went down to the rhea.
It was a little creek there, and I don't know where it went
from there because it was dark. This place is very dark and you couldn't
see. But I got maybe just a blink of an eye as it just
bowmo was gone and I go stop. She said, I don't wants to
stop. She stopped. My youngest boy who lives up here with him.
Now, the oldest boy lives out there still, he's seen it, my
youngest. My oldest boy said, he don't know what we're talking about.
My youngest boy's seen it. Heause, dah, what was that that dark
figure that went over. There's a dark man. I said, I don't
know. I got off again. I am pretty brave. I did get
off and I went to the side of the road there. I didn't have
a flat with me and just really didn't even consider that back then, and
I looked to go down. You couldn't see. It was just pitch black.
I couldn't see nothing. Well, strange is I started getting like a
buzzing feeling in my shed and I don't know what that was. But just
when I've heard of infra sound, I don't know whether it feel like a
buzzing in my head and you get that sense again, get out of here.
You don't belong here. So I didn't stay there too. I try
to look for maybe five ten seconds, and then I had that feeling and
I said, no, I'm gonna go. Just something's not right. So
we got out of there, and my second wife were so happy I got
back in the car. She was yelling at me the whole time, what
was that? Can I come out there? I'm like, no, you
stay in there. You know, got the little screen open in the back
of the camper while you're staying there. But he got in and I did
go back out there the next day. Then with another frind, I picked
up wherever I could when I want to go to the mountains, and I
did find a partial print. It looked like you had hit the pavement pushed
off, and it was probably about six foot six inches wide and probably about
two inches deep where someone pushed off, and then it looked like it jumped
there. It looked to me like a pig or a cap that went rolling
down there and squished a bunch of bushes out and it didn't happen right away,
though it looked like after it jumped, it was probably about fifteen feet
and then you can see all them bushes scattered down, so strange. I
thought about casting a chance of that little. I thought it's worthless. It's
just a it's in the middle of where it pushed off and left a little
impression there. But there were the two sidings that I have actually seen one
and I do believe they exists. Because I know they exist. There's nothing
else that could have been after that. I just would go out as much
as I could, but just not that one road the second side. He
didn't bug me too much that the first sighting. If you would have been
there with me riding seen how massive this thing was, I get the chills
on each shoulder. And I'm telling you, I made a cardboard cutouts still
not as big as that, a mini one that built her a little shit
and that's going to go in the back when the pin and mural. It's
similar to what I see. But it's amazing. I can't believe how massive
these creatures are. It's mind boggling. You're definitely not the first person to
say that to me. I want to get into some of the Minnesota stuff
and some of the research and some of the pictures you sent me. But
let's shift gears and go over to April for a second. Take us to
Georgia. April, tell us what part of Georgia you were in, Where
were you, what were you, what were you doing? And what happened
to you? What did you see? It happened in ninety six. I
don't remember the town. All I know is with the timeshare at Blue Green.
Because my boyfriend made the plans to go on vacation to go to Florida.
On our way down from Minnesota, we went down to Georgia stayed for
a nightcap. It was rainy and windy and lightning storm. It was eerie
because we turned down this long dry really long and it just went around and
the trees and it was dark. It was just really eerie. We get
to the gate, we get the key, we go in, and we
get to our cabin that we had for the night. We smell this really
garbage smell. We thought, oh, maybe they just didn't come get the
garbage and stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We're right back after
these messages. So we got inside and got settled, and he went and
took the shower and stuff, and I was hanging out and checked for mom.
Say I made it here, okay. And all of a sudden,
I look up. We got this fortune. There's like shutters and stuff.
Can you go upside and stuff? The shutters were going like this, and
I heard banging, and I'm like, what is that? So I was
looking at the TV for a little bit. Now, all of a sudden
I heard bang and the shutter finally came open. I looked out and there
was this red eye, I wide wet, black bigfoot, just huge,
and he just kept looking at me. And I turned away look at TV
and I look back and I can't believe what I'm seeing. I look up
again and I'm like, that's what my grandma told me what they were like.
So I'm sitting here and my boyfriend at the time comes out and he
goes, what are you looking at? I go, it's the shutters,
look at it. It came open and stuff. He goes, I'm going
outside, and I said, no, you're not. He goes, it's
raining and stuff. You don't need to look. He'slee Samson went outside and
looked and there was nowhere in sight. Was the bigfoot around nothing. I
don't know if he was hiding behind a tree or something, because there's trees
around our cabin. And he said the shutters came in and he looked at
me again. He goes, why are you so quiet? And I said,
there's a long trip. I'm ready to just relax here, and he
goes, but you don't look great. He goes, what is wrong with
you? And I told him. He said nothing, and that was that
and I never told him, never told nobody about my encounter until I met
j D and Jade start talking about Big Bud and his encounters, and then
I said, you know what that I had one, and he goes,
really, And I told him all about it, and from that day on
he believed me in And usually people will think cay are weird and stuff.
So that's why I didn't say anything until I met him when he talked about
it. Yeah, I've heard that story so many times in so many different
ways. People have those encounters. I talked to one gentleman, I don't
know, it's probably a couple of months back, and his wife was very
much like that he had just lost his wife not too long ago. She
passed away, but she shared her encounters with him because he was interested in
the subject and he had seen one at some point in time. And I
just thought how sad that was that it really bothered her for a lot of
years, and it's bothered him as well. There's a little bit of PTSD.
I think that along in a lot of these sightings with people, you
just clam up and you don't talk about it, like you said, because
you think people are gonna think you're crazy, or they're gonna make fun of
you, or whatever the case may be. I've said this to so many
people over the years. I said it to Bob and Kathy Strain, who
have been on the show separately, have never had them on it at the
same time. But the people who have somebody in their life that think what
you want about people into Bigfoot, who have experiences or just are interested in
the subject. I've never seen one, but I do research. I do
a full time podcast, couple of podcasts about nothing but Bigfoot, and people
find that strange. I said all that to say, when you are able
to find somebody in your life that you can share that part of your life
with I think it's one of the greatest things in the world, because,
Hey, you got somebody you can confide in and they don't think you're crazy
and they don't look at you like you got four heads. But you also
have something that shared that you can go out and do together. And I
know we were talking a little bit before we got on the air, John
that you guys go out together and do some research. You guys sent some
photos over and I certainly want to talk about some of that. So let's
fast forward to get into the Minnesota part of where you guys are. Now,
what are you guys doing as far as research? Are you going out
on public land private land? Where are you guys going and what do you
find in and what kind of experiences are you having in the area that you're
in now? Yeah, sure, Brian, by the way, you're right
having a couple together. I have no dug hijacked for a while now,
And he told me it's awesome that it's very rare to see a couple goes
out and does the stuff. For you guys are lucky. I think it
for granted and we have a little say and imagine that. So if dog.
You ever see this, imagine it's just our thinking. So anyway,
yeah, we're part of the Driftless Area. We're gonna be working with a
few other people and we're gonna be filming down this area in June and I'll
lead you more of that. I don't say too much about that. I'm
making a documentary down there. But the Driftless Area, we do public land
and we got private land. We have both that we research on where we
researched mainly on and we just clear out one hundred foot area last year week
camp on it and we have about four tenths something. You can drive down
in there about half mile to a mile, then you can research the area.
There's a probably about five or an acre, but we researched probably about
twenty of it real heavily and we've had some good luck. But it's part
of the driblest there. We got live cameras up right now in between Wisconsin
and the Cross down by Spring Valley and Harmony where a lot of the caves.
They have a lot of caves and tourist tractions there. But we live
here in Claremont in a rural area. There's only I think twice here that
we've heard something around the area. But it's a very interesting area. A
lot of creeks, little small towns around us. We have a lot of
parks, state parks. We've got one three miles from us, which is
very cool. Another one down the road from there, maybe twenty miles in
the Driftless area where we goes by the hour from US. That area had
a lot of sightings. Dan A. Drello is a great friend of mine.
Actually took them down to about a month and a half ago for a
big function and we had one of them big four whelers. They got the
tank tracks. We've got through the call, but we went down in the
middle of nowhere. It's got stuck. But you know, they looks squatchy.
So that area we've had howls. We've had something grunt ass three times.
In one night, I put my tent right up against the ravine,
nothing but forest. It leads down to a creek that's freaky enough. If
I took you the other night, it's just creepy down there. The farmer
guy that was there said he wouldn't go down there at night. He goes
the only reason he's coming down there because I'm with him. He say he
get some weird vibe out there, and we did have some remote view it
and they thought they've seen something out there. But we've had some weird,
strange howls. I've heard a scream one night, saying a lady just not
having a great time, like just scream atop for along, but don't make
any sense. Some of the farmers have heard babies cry. What got me
interested in this area though, is one of the farmers down there. I'm
gonna need no names because I really talked to her stories or til we go
out there. I'm missing him. But he was having a big brush fire.
And this would probably be maybe three or four houses down from where we
researched on this farm. And he has land too, I think he has
one hundred acres. He was having a big brush fire. I think this
was maybe five years ago, up the quite side of a car, and
he hunts his land avidly and there's forest right there. Then little were the
ways he had that brush fire in his house in the background, I guess
him and his ten year old kid was out there and they were just he
was having a beer, listen to music and they were watching the fire burn
up some brush and he heard something thrashing around out in the brush there in
the forest. He thought, maybe once all to get a bear that runs
through down here in southern Minnesota. But he didn't know what it was.
It was big, stratched around these tire hears some fronts and some weird like
spreams, and he said, all of a sudden, this nine foot tall
creature came out and he could see it clear as can be, just muscled
up, massive, and you see the face all leatherly wrinkled up, and
it screamed at him, and he grabbed his kid round the waist and he
telled it to the house. And he said, but before this happened,
if I remember right, he said, it picked up like a big log
and threw it right by him. Didn't hit them, but throw by them.
That's where he was standing, look at them, picked up skidding,
went in the house, and he said he heard it thrash around for about
twenty minutes, screaming and throwing like he was upset, throwing a fit.
He sayd he live her ten years, never had nothing like that, never
see nothing like that. Even believe in these creatures. He does now.
He went the house, stayed in there Wilson night. I think his wife's
at the time, I didn't know what he was doing. I think she
questioned that. I don't remember the whole story I got talked to him,
but I heard it from three or four farmers. Now he went back out
through the next day. He's got pictures. I can't wait to see.
It's been two years. I never had ran into this guy yet, but
he's got pictures. He went out the next day and found tracks and they
were seventeen and a half inches long, very deep, two and a half
inches and they were walking into the forest. It came out in a circle,
back and forth. I can't wait to see these. So when I
heard this, I thought, I'm going down this area and talked to the
farmer the sun and he goes, yeah, if you want to come down,
we can hang out. So started doing that two years ago. Presearch
just became like almost in every other weekend that we were just down there.
So last year we cleaned out. You said, arn't food area. We
can get down there and camp All last year we were down there probably at
least twenty times, camping, just hanging out. But that was one of
the reports from that area. The BFR does have if you look up Spring
Valley, they have two reports not less than maybe five or six miles from
that area where we camp out avidly now and I have a research area which
is permanent. The land owners gave a permission we can go out there,
and they say, you got ring a few people, just don't bring on
a whole tribe. I get it. My dad had land. I understand
that. There's two reports. Like I said, it's document it. Even
the Bigfoot Mapping Project has that on there. And we're just maybe about five
miles up from that area, and it's with it. There's a lot of
farm land and there's trees, a lot of creeks. It's part of the
drift and it's really unique. So that was the one that really got me
in there. But there's a few other reports of a black looking cougar,
which I don't know what that is. A good friend of mine, Chad
Lewis, I don't know if you're familiar with Chad Lewis. He writes a
lot of books and got a lot of TV shows. We've met each other
at the Van Meter Festival down in Iiowa a few times and I'd go there
now every year. But he has a lot of books out. But he
wrote about a dog man. They called it a hill haller, a dog
man looking creature. Again, this is about fifteen miles fro where we researched.
Down by it's called Forestville State Park, whereas thing had terrorized some campers
there, and that's another story. It looked like a seven foot werewolf basically.
So now you're getting all these stories. They're starting to compile, and
I'm thinking, O, carry this sounds good in this area. We were
down there, I said a month and a half about Dan and one of
the guy who they like to fry up. Man, these guys will fry
up anything. I don't care what you give there. They was good food
there, having a fight, and I was talking to one guy, Ben
and he is pretty good accent, and he had told him to go,
yeah we do. We've been down research. He yeah, we just on
the land over here. We sold out to ted acre plots over here.
You're into that stuff. I got to tell you something. I go,
what's I goes my dad? Well, we were selling off the ten acre.
Plus there's a dam on that side down there where so and so lives,
and I know the guys. We hang out together and go down this
ranger and drive around but down then there. He can't get to it now
it's all overgrown. But he used to get down in and there was a
damn. So I looked up on the map and there was like a little
pond or something there. We said when they were taking pictures to sell this
acre job, and I just heard this month and a half ago. On
one of the pictures, they took a picture of something blocked. It was
huge. It looked like a bear. Then the next picture, this thing
is standing up and I go, what it looks like? Goes, hey,
it looked like a giant gorilla to me. He goes. It was
huge. I go, what do you estimate it? Besides? And it
was very wide and big, and it was on two legs when stood.
He tells, on two legs. It wasn't a bear. It happened hunting
all my life. Wasn't there. It had to be almost ten foot tall.
And I went, you're kidding me? He goes, no, I
goes, and if I could find them pictures, I'll show them to you.
There's another one. I got to get a hold of it. And
hopefully I can get all this together collected before we do this documentary in June.
And that is some impressive stuff. I can't get that surface out for
the public to see. But I tell you what, we've heard some stuff
out there and then rawl grunts. I don't know what that was. We
had to hit round between ten eleven night and about two in the morning three
times it happened. And what was strange. At night there was no animal
activity, which that's weird, and I know what kind of goes with that.
Something large is around here and he has a dog that looks like lastly
beautiful collie. It was sitting there for about ten minutes watching the forest across
from our little cutouts. I got appened and cut out and the road comes
down the forest and there's a field on that side. It was all plowed
up, but then it goes down to more woods in the creek. But
she was sitting there and then they go, what's wrong with her? She
sees something. I thought maybe she's seen a rat boon or maybe a squirrel
or something, which I don't know. Just with her. I see tony
squirrels at night, but it could have been a raccoon, whatever it was.
She was fixated on this one spot and would not move. So I
got some night vision and flares and some gadgets looked around and didn't see too
much. But it was thick bulliage there. That was the same night we
had the groul, so it was very interesting. And she sat there a
little bit and then she wandered back towards us, and then she walked up
to the house. She usually hangs out with us. I go she leaving,
Yeah, she must be tired, And I like, yeah, maybe,
or maybe something else. But it was strange. But that's the side
over here. Now we do have a lot of ponds and a lot of
wildlife areas right here we research and go out to. And I know,
right down the road from US, about maybe three and a half miles northeast,
there's a pond and we fished at quite a bit since I moved here
in two thousand from California, we've been down in there. I get spooky
out of her night, so I will still late fish until left to dark
to about one am. And it just turned into a wildlife game habitat or
something about three years ago. It never it was a pond every he went
to it about one hundred and sixty acres in between farmers, a lot of
brush. We fished that quite a bit. I have this little scion and
he has a bigfoot sticker on it. I remember coming out there one morning.
We're gonna take a walk after the ponds and just get some exercise,
and there was two hundreds They had ponytail hippiece. It was a Sunday.
They were out hunting and they were just getting back to the truck and I
they go, how you doing? And said good, how you doing?
And they go what's that sticker for? They see my little bigfoot sticker?
Like I said, bigfoot research whatever, And I go, oh, you
know, I do bigfoot research and I'm into that kind of stuff. She
goes really and they both chuckled and they look back down straight face. He
goes, maybe you might want to hear this, and I said, here,
what goes if you're into that cherry creature that you're talking about. We
were hunting one day and I thought, oh, this is going to be
good. Already know they're going to start saved and they and we were out
past the ponds. There's a little clear in the meadow. I said,
yeah, I know permeer that and there's a brush line there, Yeah,
I know where that where the trees are. We're hunting one day and we're
walking through and we've seen something dark looked like a bear over by the woodline.
So I said, oh okay, and it came out. So I
got my scope, but was looking at the scope and it wasn't a bear.
I go, how did you know that? He goes, well,
I'm a hunter and I've seen a bear many times. I go up north
a lot two. A bear don't walk on two legs and come out and
have big shoulders, look like a monkey. WHOA Okay, I said,
that's interesting. So if you're looking for that kind of stuff while we hunt
on this side. He goes, go out that way. So I said
thanks for the story, and he goes, yeah, good luck, And
then they turned around walked off at Toypo. Do I believe this or not?
Yeah, they wouldn't lie to you like no, But I've been out
there for many years and laid up dan, that's why he's your little crack
brush. That happens. But I kept paying attention a little more and looking
a little more when I'm walking down the trails. And next year after that,
we were looking around. I found a light print and it looked stubby,
maybe about thirteen inches long, not very big, but the width of
it was and it's hard down there, so you're not going to just sink
in. It was rocky and hard, but it was enough to make a
little indentation in a mark there. And I don't know if I sent you
that one, but it was a little pick and it looked very wide and
stubby at the top, and it crossed the path a little game channel and
then went over towards the creek. I total epoks. I take a picture
and go, you know what, evidence is evidence, Whether it is or
isn't. I heard that from click wreck when I've seen it, just take
a picture of it. Whether it is or isn't, it's evidence. I
went out and start all over again. So I did take a picture,
and it's if. I don't know, personally, I think it could be.
But that was all in that same area. Now me in April there,
before they even told me the story. That's probably ten years ago.
I and think anything about anything being around this area. I just thought,
yea, that possible. I do believe they used our creeks and rivers like
we do our highways. I'm a true believer in that. But we were
looking around and I was of a game cam and I went down by the
creek there and there was a creek the borders just pond, and I found
this tree and he had some limbs piled up a little bit and then like
brush, but only on one side, and it looked like something big was
laying in there, and I thought that's strange. So I started looking around
there and this is like I said, this way before I heard any of
these stories, and started really thinking about it. In the river there were
starting to fall out. It was, you know, March April, whatever
it was back then, and there was a deer in there there was laying
half frozen, but it didn't look like someone. I killed it and cleaned
it. I still had part of a leg, some skin fun a raccoon
by that right on the river there like something put something there, maybe I
don't know. But then I found I can't find that picture, you know,
it's somewhere. I got ten thousand sty cards. But I found a
little child dog and it looked like something that snapped the neck on. It
had a big bulge one side, which I felt bad because it's someone's pet,
pretty looking dog. But it was sitting there. His eyes were just
it almost looked like Bogie Creek. We see that cat and it looked scared
to death. That's what it reminded me. I thought, Man, it
looks like it's next like that in a bulge. So now I got three
different animals and a little shelter there, and I started thinking right away,
wonder if this is a possibility. I looked around footprints and seeing thing could
have went in the water and you never find them. I don't know,
but it was a possibility bringing I get like a power in her story here
see something maybe there. The last day that happens, me and Apro was
out there, and we haven't been fishing there last year much. We easially
go out there ten twenty times a year. We were there one night.
It was about ten o'clock, just starting to get real dark. I had
a little radio. I always bringing a music man. I love music.
So I hang it up the battery op radio up there on the brushed there
and throw my line in the water, and oh yeah, I go,
it's getting late, you know, I'm getting tired to call at night and
pack up everything. So we start packing up everything, and I heard something
just run like you hear the brodet you're not. You can't see because there's
a lot of foliage there and you have to squeeze to it to get out.
This little ten foot around bank the fish on and there is like a
little trailer where you can drive a four wheeler back there, and then there's
more woods. And I looked at her, I said, we turned on
that radio. I turned it down and said what was that? And I
listened and I did hear nothing, and whatever it was had ran by super
fast, So fact could that be a deer? But it didn't sound like
it sounded like a person, but it sounded too heavy to be a person.
I don't get scary getting that little ebg. But he's like, yeah,
I'm getting a little spooked here. And it was quiet, dead quiet.
Again, you don't hear nothing. You usually hear all kinds of stuff
out there. And I thought, you know what, let's just pack up,
stay by me, are toller and keep close. And we walked and
that's about ain't from all back to the car, and I thought, I
told her there's got to be someone out here, maybe someone messing or running
by her. There's got to be someone here, And stay tuned for more
sasquatch out to see. We'll be right back after these messages. The parking
lots but little probably maybe forty foot radio is just enough to put a couple
of cars in. It's just a small little When we got out there,
there was nobody there about ten thirty at night, and I thought that's odd.
But could it be a maybe a farmer kid or maybe I don't know
it just I keep trying to you know, de balk as you would say,
just saying that, I just I don't know. So I'm not going
to say it his. I'm not gonna say his. I'm gonna say I
don't know. That spooked me after finding this here and that, so I'm
really going to pay attention. I think that's why I refrained from going out
there late at night lately. If you go out to be a driftless area,
unless I see something like I did in California, I must go out
there. I took a walk out there last year about three amps, came
back about four thirty. They told me I'll go out there by myself.
There is mountain lions out either. I'm gonna go out there. I had
one camera and wanted to retrieve and we didn't get to it. I'm gonna
go get it. I walked about a quarter mile down the creek, got
it, came back, and that's the time where I heard something up and
the trees there moving around. I thought it was a deer. I snapped
a bunch of pictures. In one of the pictures, it looked like something
in a tree. I kept that and I thought maybe When I went down
and got the camera, I was being a burger. I had it tied
and I couldn't get it up. Trying to hold flash on my mouth just
wasn't working, and I finally got off. I started hearing moving up there,
and it spook me. This creek is like something glass were walking on,
said that old flat rock, and its really just sound like you're walking
on glass. So I started flashing pictures and then getting a little spooks.
So I just started singing and talking and thinking, because I kept hearing something
moving around there, that something's out there. If I make noise by,
leave me alone. So I started back up. The heat going down's easy
it's a slow gradual up incline where you have to keep moving up, and
I do got asthma runkias I've had since eighteen months old, so he can
get to me at times, but going back up is hard. So I
was going back up and I kept hearing this. I snapped a couple of
pictures before I left, and I sang all the way if I got back
up the camp and going there and saying, oh, you just you shouldn't
have went, you're you know down I got back and I told him something
was moving around down there, but I think it was just a deer.
I don't know, maybe a kyote of There's a lot of kyos out there.
Bob Kat's been hanging around there this year. I've seen one, which
don't bug me too much. There has been mount lions report out there,
which I ran real close to one out in California's honey. But as all
that said, yeah, it's probably not smart to go by yourself out there,
you got to bring someone. I got back to my camera when I
started looking the pictures, just looking around and just seemed forced. So I
put it on smart TV. Sometimes I'll do that if I think I see
something, and it looked like something to me meet you. It did take
up before and after, and if it was something, it had to be
about fifteen feet up in the tree, so it wasn't on the ground.
It was up on the hillside. And there's a lot of rock base here
and there, and this is an area that has a lot of underground caves.
There's one that goes down a mile down in Forestville Caves where Chad Lewis
wrote about that weird dog man creature, where we've been down on them several
times. It's a tourist traction, but all that area has caves. And
the reason they found some of these caves is back in the day when they
first started selling in there, they noticed livestock gone. Pretty soon farmers find
a big hole and there's a big cave in the ground, and that's how
they started making some of these tourist tractions. But who knows what's up there.
I asked them if as Far has been generations for years, and they
said they know. They am explored up in there. Said I don't want
to be the first one explorer go down to cave one hundred feet or a
thousand feet on disappear because you go down the cave and it is dark in
your phone overk I'm glad you mentioned the caves because I was on Calling All
Beings Live night. We had a Bigfoot round table. It was me,
Doug Hichick, Amy Boo, Sabilla Urban, Scott Tompkins from the Bigfoot Mapping
Project. That's one of the questions that came up last night was the cave.
Scott is wanting to get access to the caves, he said. I
wasn't aware of this until he brought it up. He asked me about it
because I was a police officer for sixteen years. He said, there's a
federal statute against producing the whereabouts of these cave systems across the United States for
safety reasons, is what I'm thinking. I think they're probably doing that to
keep people from going and finding some of these caves and people getting lost in
them and falling and doing all the things that you were just talking about.
But I said all that to say, the question obviously came up to Scott
was like why do you want this information? Do you think that Sasquatch are
using the cave systems, using them for shelter or whatever? Because we were
talking specifically, like in your area. Sometimes it's thirty five below up here
in the winters. Where did the Sasquatch go? How did they stay warm?
I know it's just subjective and it's completely out of the left field,
But do you think it's possible that these things are somehow using some of the
caves in the area that you're talking about. I do, I really do,
because when we've been down in caves, it's a steady forty five degrees
all year long. The bad thing about it is these caves do flood.
I don't know all caves, but you get spring. But if any of
these beings are creatures, I think they're very much part of the hominy groups.
I think they've been living along est and very smart, very intelligent.
I think they're almost like a primitive man. And that's another whole topic,
but I think they do. And I think that they know when the shelter
isn't feasible to more for them to stay, and they know when to get
out and come back in. Maybe there's some parts that don't flood and they
open up. I don't know, but I do know they will flood,
but the winter time they can't flood. During the spring, but the winter
time it's forty five degrees down there. It stays that way summer, stays
that way in winter, so it's a perfect place for them to set up
camp and hang out. Sure, I really do it's a possibility. Where
else would they go? Can they build shelters? Are they on the run?
You know? I think they could do a little bit of both.
Really, But I don't know. That's something I can't even ask you.
As a creature. I'm that massive with the fur. Does it need a
place to really go in and hang out for the winter. Can they just
make a shelter and get by it? I think they can do a little
bit of both. I don't know what your take is on that, but
I don't know. I take the hybrid approach. I think it might be
a little bit of both, Like you said, if something has that sort
of mass. And again, Doug Hicheck was on the panel last night,
and Doug said, but similar to what bears do. I can't remember the
verbiage that he used, But it's not necessarily hibernation that keeps them warm in
a lot of cases, it's something else that they can do and regulate their
body temperature. And keep them warm when it's extremely cold. Maybe these creatures
have something similar to that. It's all subjective. We don't really know,
but I think it's fun to talk about it. So let's talk a little
bit about Midnight Squatchers. What is Midnight Squatch? Is it a YouTube channel?
You guys got a website? Where can people find you and find what
you guys have going on? Yeah? Sure, Mainly if you want to
get hold of me, Midnight Squatchs want itch email dot com if you want
to email me, But most everything is on my Facebook page and mid I
Squatchs on my regular Facebook page. You can find us. I do have
YouTube channel. I think I utloaded something for the first time four months.
I don't use it enough as I shouldn't. God knows how many videos I've
got over the last thirty years. I should start going through a little more.
I keep finding stuff from California, from the Ozark, Minnesota to where
we've been. I will start uploading more to the YouTube. But yeah,
they want to find me, the best bet would be to get hold of
me on the Midnight Squatch Facebook page. I'm a night out even though they
get up and do some early work at times I only work part time.
The other time I'm up late. I just started a trend. I just
subscribed to the YouTube channel, So you guys go check out the YouTube,
check out the Facebook, check out Midnight squatchs. John April, thank y'all
so much for coming on and sharing your experiences. I've had a black talking
to both of you. Thanks for having us on it, and I appreciate
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