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Oh, white people don't like it
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I'm I'm Corey Winfield. If it's
the first time you've ever listen to our

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podcast, welcome. This is gonna
be a great one. We talk about

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recovery, my life and recovery,
but pretty much just about whatever I want.

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And I'm here with Matt s.
Won't you want me to say it's

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mass Spring. You were on the
podcast last year, ye and I had

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to educate you about evolution and how
we did not come from apes. And

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we also talked about ghost hunting yep, and we were going to set up

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a time we were gonna go,
but then life happens. Yeah, this

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has been It has been an insane
year for me. Yeah, and we

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get busy and then thanks happening.
The same thing for us too, you

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know, like I can give you
all the ship in the world at the

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same time, if you would have
like called me back on it, like

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all right, let's go out and
be like, well, well can we

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maybe next weekend and then we would
have been playing this next weekend game.

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I've done it once since last year. Wow, And it was like three

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weeks ago, damn. And it
was just those like three It was met

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the same ladies I went with last
time, and just some local cemeteries that

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I grew up around. Okay,
did you nothing? Did you bring any

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recording device with you? No?
No, So you guys are just out

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there just doing the whole like,
well, no, I brought a Wuiji

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board. Oh no, I told
you don't do that. Don't don't.

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So we couldn't break it out because
one of the ladies wouldn't let us.

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Good Okay, but I've never played
with one ever. You don't want to

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but that's what everyone says. But
you only know that because at some point

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you wanted to play with one and
did Okay, I did, but I

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was like fourteen and nothing happened in
the middle of the field and I didn't

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really try too hard. But there
was a person who I knew, and

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she did that in the house I
lived in Arkansas and I told her,

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don't do that. And I saw
that in our house. I could get

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that out of our house. And
she's like, but I want to talk

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to my mom. I said,
don't you do that. That's the devil,

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and she did it anyway, and
then like all this stuff started happening,

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doors slamming, fawcet's turning on,
Like that's what I want. I

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want that, I want that proof, but it doesn't. It's so weird

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when it happens. Oh, I
agree, it's horrified. No, you're

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not even scared when it happens.
Because like one time I saw a dude.

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I was coming in my house and
I looked down this long hallway and

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this guy went from my bathroom and
I though there's hallway, so I just

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see a guy walks past. I
was like, well, I threw down

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when I was I had, like
a vacuum. I threw down. I

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will run in the kitchen, like
what are you doing my house? Nobody

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was there, and I checked my
alarm, nobody entered, nobody left.

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I'm like, what the Yeah,
I've never experienced that ever, and I

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want to and I feel like I
want it so bad it will never happen

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to me. And so I'm gonna
bring any tool that will summon the devil,

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like, I don't even care if
it's a spirit or satan. I

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want something. Yeah, oh my
god, no you don't because then the

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things that are happening and then,
like I don't know, it was just

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bad news for me. And so
I did research into how to safely use

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a Wuiji board, and the rule
number one is don't do it in a

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cemetery. And I'm like, I'm
gonna do it in a semtary. I

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just can't do it with the people
I was with. I gotta find other

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people that are willing to. But
you're not gonna go out alone to do

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it. Can you use Auigi board
alone? Mitch? Can you use a

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Wuiji board alone? He said,
you can? So, yeah, you

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can. Huh. Maybe maybe I'll
do that though, would you recommend doing

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that in the cemetery area alone?
Try anything? That's try anything I have?

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Okay, Well, well, what
are you doing later? I'm actually

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later tonight, I'm going on a
tour at night of our local asylum.

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Really. Yeah, that's awesome,
dude. You're in Traverse City now,

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that's at the old State Hospital,
Okay. Is that the one that goes

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under the city or something, or
there's some tunnels that you So I've done

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it before but during the day,
So I'm super excited to go at nine

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o'clock tonight. It's gonna be awesome. Nice. Are you going to take

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a flashlight with you? I mean, technically a phone is always with me.

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Okay, because I got yelled at
because I was at this sanitarium place

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in Arkansas and I took this woman
with me who I was trying to hit

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on. At the time, I
had no idea that she did not like

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men, which, okay, cool, but that's how clue this. I

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am on the picking up on it. Yeah, and I'm staying there and

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we get done. There's like five
floors that they would take us on.

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They would take us down these floor
It was old, creeping, dirty,

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I'm like okay, whatever, and
they're like, okay, at the end

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of it, we're done. So
stand up against the wall and I look

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down at the end of the hallway
and of course I didn't think about this

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at the time, but I can't
see very well. And they're like,

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don't you see the shadows crossing?
And I'm like, oh, this is

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little stupid man. And they told
us on like floor or five or whatever

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they were like, and that's when
we started on and we went down.

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They said don't stand her from the
doorways because they'll touch you. And then

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we go through five, four,
three, going on into like two,

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and I totally forgot about that,
and I'm staring against the wall and I'm

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like stupid and I'm like kid the
very end and I'm like all right.

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So I just kind of jumping in
line, and now I feel something touched

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me, and I was like,
what the fun is that, you know?

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And and I thought it was the
chick that was next to me,

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and so I'm like, hey,
that's stop and she's like what and I

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felt again. I was like stop, and then I grabbed and then she

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had her hands in her hoodie.
So I'm like okay, that wasn't her,

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and I was like, wait,
I'm the end of the line,

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like who's and then it felt it
again and that's when I like had my

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freak out moment, like grabbed my
flashlight turned it on that people were yelling

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at me like turn it off,
you're scaring the ghosts. I'm like,

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that's the point. You're like that
guy who I have been in a deep

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into a cave and like we're gonna
shut all the lights off and show you

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what real darkness looks like. And
then the guy like busts his phone out

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but not I'm cool on that.
Yeah, well I didn't think I mean

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that styled get it whatever, man. Yeah, And that's when I was

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like, okay, this is there's
something to that. So I did just

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remember that. So we didn't do
a ghost tour. But there's downstate is

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have you ever heard of Eloise Asylum
No, like in the Detroit area,

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and they do like a haunted asylum
year round now. But then they also

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do straight up ghost tour, like
you get to go in at like eight

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o'clock at night and stay there until
two in the morning, and you get

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to walk around doing like they lend
you equipment to do ghost tours with.

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And that's I want to go do
that. Do they lend you equipment or

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do they charge you? What's part
of the feet Okay, like you pay

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money to go do it? Like
do you go into this one and it's

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like an old state hospital and it's
supposed to be supermted. We went there

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and did an escape room. So
they built an escape room on this asylum.

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And like you start out in the
padded rooms and you have to play

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it's you have to move the panels
around to find an opening. They but

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they put you they put some of
you in one room and they lock you

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at the other people in this other
room and you have to find it opening.

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Then you have to hold hands to
like open this thing. It's actually

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it was it was really cool.
We should do that for free. That

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Yeah, I'll be honest. Just
send me a link I hook it up.

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So I've been wanting to ask you
since I saw you posted on your

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Facebook, what is up with this
Ancient Aliens thing? Yeah? Man,

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they're going to be in Calamazoo,
Michigan. Obviously, people listening in Pennsylvania

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shout out to them. Uh,
Ancient Aliens live. They're doing their show

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live and there's more about it if
you go to two seventeen Recovery dot com

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as you sign up for the contest, So if you scan that code,

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it'll tell you what their live shows
are about. I don't wring you watch.

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I watch Ancient Aliens. Yeah,
day, what do I know?

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The dude's here. It's hard to
take him serious, man, But some

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of the stuff that he gets to
do, I'm jealous, Like he gets

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to go to like check out pyramids. I mean, dude's got a crazy

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awesome job. So do you believe
in ancient aliens? Why not? Man?

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Sure? I think so? Yeah. I mean there's some stuff that

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they say, and then like stuff
that's going on now with lady and person

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guy going in front of Congress and
the government saying yeah, like okay,

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but do you believe like aliens built
pyramids? Like that's the part that that's

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where I get hung. Yeah,
people, okay, how slave labor?

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But how yeah hammers like a thousand
slaves. If we have to lift up

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that giant rock that's a long rope, bro, how do you get how

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thousand people on one rope? How
long does it take to make that?

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Or I guess here's my here's my
thought on aliens. Just in general,

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I find it easier to believe that
they are humans from the distant future than

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they are people from other planets.
That is what actual time travel is.

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Adam and I were talking about that
earlier, and so that's that's where I'm

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like, Okay, so maybe people
just had to go back in time and

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build the pyramids to close the loop
we could have or they were just like

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because in three hundred years it could
be so crazy dirty here. Yeah,

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the only way to go see cool
ship is to go back in the past

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and they build these ships and then
that ship has like this virtual reality thing

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that is linked to someone's brain.
And like the ships because they can go

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so super fast, well like break
whatever needs to go through to whatever to

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get here. And that's what we're
seeing now is just like I don't know,

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dude, it was not a better
earlier when I said it. No,

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that's kind of I kind of agree
with that. But is this So

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are you going to this? Yeah? You want to go? I don't

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know. I got I fall asleep
watching this show sometimes, right, like

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good want to fall asleep to Like
a lot of times I fall asleep to

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it. So if I can't find
a good like true crime documentary and like

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listen to people getting murdered just to
go to sleep, then I'll just like

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on some agent Aliens. Yeah,
it's it's great. And like I said,

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the dudes got a dream job.
I mean Aliens real or not.

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That's that's cool job. You know. It's kind of like, oh,

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so here's the thing. I actually
did try to watch some of those ghost

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shows, some of those ghost hunting
shows. Yeah, those are a scam

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and oh man, because they add
they added a whole bunch onto like HBO

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Max, right like, because they
added all those like Discovery Channel shows on

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there. And I was like,
oh, hey, I've never actually watched

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one of these ghosts hunting shows.
I've seen all the parodies, I've seen

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all people making fun of it,
and then I tried to watch it and

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I was like, this show has
twenty seasons and hundreds of episodes, and

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I'm like, how it's boring.
Yeah, some of it depends which when

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you watch or which when you get
into but like this was the one,

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I don't know what the dude was
trash talking the ghost? Was it?

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The Ghost Adventurers I cannot remember which
one of the guys, like you throw

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toilet seats at someone tried to do
that to me. Yeah, it sounds

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like ghost and he like just starts
trying to call the ghost out. Yeah,

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this dude and that dude went to
film school hint hint in Michigan.

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Yeah, Zach Began's And it's like
because they came to Arkansas and there was

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like real people that do it down
there, and I was like, so,

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how are they? How are the
dudes? You know? And he

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was like, I'm just gonna say
that they went to school for all that

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stuff, so we'll just leave it
there, you know. And I was

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like, oh, well, I
didn't see it. I didn't see anything

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that was scary or they just had
to make the drama. And there's one

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and I have it on my other
board, but it's a clip from Ghost

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Adventure of the dude. He was
like, I'm gonna go downstairs and I'm

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gonna go confront this ghost one on
once. He goes down there and then

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here's a door open, and goes
and then he like starts screaming and he

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takes off running and smashes into a
wall and he falls down and he goes

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you hear all this crowd and he's
like, guys, no, And I

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just fell out laughing. And I
played it for Marnie and she didn't think

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it was funny. I'm like,
how are you not laughing your ass off?

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I'm like, that's hilarious. Like
he's looking for a ghost. I

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was like, that's like me going, I'm gonna go look for Tyrone.

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And then I find Tyrone and I'm
like, didn't no, Tyrone was gonna

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be here. And I only said
Tyrone be cause's stand in front of me.

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But you know, I didn't want
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prepared for that. Like I'm gonna
go find a ghost. We're called ghost

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adventures. I'm gonna have adventure.
I'm gonna find a ghost. But then

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you find one and you get so
scared you knock yourself out by running into

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a wall. I mean, sweet, that's a little silly. And so

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I have that drop on my other
boarder and the wise I play it for

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you because you'd laugh. Oh,
it's so bad. It was just it

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was painful. I couldn't make it
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minutes in and there was like an
hour and twenty and I'm like, I'm

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out. I've tried. And I
was like, maybe you'll be educational,

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right, maybe you'll give me some
education on like not on ghost hunting,

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but the history, because I think
they present it kind of as history.

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right, like some of the real
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it was just like the there's a
documentary about the Warrens. Yeah,

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and that was good. I just
watched that in the night and they were

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talking about there was like a house
but it was right after Extradists exorcists or

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whatever came out, so a lot
of people are like, oh my god.

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But they these people were having this
real Poulter guist in their house,

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and even the cops, the fire
department all were like yeah, like I

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saw TVs moving chairs like opening and
shutting, like and it's crazy and like

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attracted all kinds of people. And
then the Andy Griffith of the city came

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out and it was like nothing to
see here, it's all hoax, the

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little girls doing it, and so
it was like wait what and like the

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Warrens were like no, that's stupid, Like that house would have been cool

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to check out, would you?
So? Would you touch the real Annabelle?

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Though? No? Would why because
I think it's BS So I don't

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like, hold on, here's why. I just they Have you ever seen

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the video of them changing the Annabelle
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real video of that. Yes,
so it's like the Elizabeth Warren Is that

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the lady's name? She's yes,
so it's her. And then like a

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priest saying a bunch of stuff,
and then a dude has gloves on and

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they like, all right, like
open it real quick, and like it's

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like they're dealing with hornets. I
think, Yeah, the glove's not really

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going to protect you, like I
wouldn't think, and like they're just praying,

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and then they're just I'm just like, this is so much. I

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would just walk up and put pick
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your little other glass container. Yeah, I mean I could do that maybe,

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but I wouldn't talk to it.
I wouldn't look it in the eye

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like they're saying, if you look
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what are the stories behind that?
No, I've like they talk someone smack

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about this Annabelle Doll and how bad
it is, and the movies like their

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movies or they're made up, they're
fictional. So I feel like if something

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is that bad, it would have
been been like national news. Yeah,

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like if there was really this Possession
doll, like that house I was talking

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about, like that was like nationally
Like they're all over the country like yeah,

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if that was that bad, but
they they have do not open do

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not like it's it's all locked up. We think nowadays though, people are

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so like even the guy that was
testifying Congress about like, hey, we

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know about these ships, we don't
know what they are? These sah you

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know UFOs? What do you want
to call them? And people are just

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like, okay, do you see
that Taylor Swift dating the guy from the

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Kansas Cheese Oh my god. I
wanted to go one day without hearing.

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Like people are so stupid, Like
we're like, well, we're whining that

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maybe we should ask them. I'm
like, wait, what about the chips

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that we don't know what they are, we don't know where they're from.

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Should we get into that a little
bit more? Like I think people should

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be asking that instead. We're just
like people are afraid. Oh did you

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see who was you know Britney spears
and knives and dancing and like again like

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we're it'd be scared of that too. So yeah, but it's gonna I

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don't know if it's stupidity or fear. Do you really like the further the

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more questions you ask about what those
flying objects are, the more answers that

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you might not want to hear.
Yeah, and then you have to think

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about it too, Like if the
government's given us that what's really going on?

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There's that? Or what are they
telling us this about? It's like,

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hey, look over here exactly you
know, like, well we do

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this stuff or aliens like abducting masses
of people and we don't want you to

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know. I mean, meanwhile,
they've dug a cave to the middle of

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the earth where just they can go
and they know this is Baby's blowing up

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and they're like gonna be like what
movie was at where they like see you

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later and like the earth balls up, They're like we just skate out of

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town. I don't know, but
I mean I would love to be on

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that aircraft though, I'm just saying, would you you'd go in space?

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If the Earth's gonna blow up.
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go blow up, and you can
just go up there and like, would

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you, Oh, we should start
a rumor the Earth is gonna blow up.

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We need a space ship. Now, would you join that space ship?

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If you've heard things? People would
believe that? No, you think

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so, that's gonna be us Taylor
Britney Spears and then the Chiefs Guy Chiefs

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player may be on space ship and
Mitch like people believe anything. I know.

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I feel like if you say something
enough, there's gonna be a group

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of people that do it. Wait
till we start this cat Matt other Matt

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and I were gonna start this podcast. It's called two Cats, One litter

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box, No Cat. Oh no, no, two guys. I know

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that was really confusing. Two guys, one litter box, no cat.

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And we're gonna be We're gonna be
dead serious about cats for like the first

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ten episodes, and then we're slowly
gonna start introducing like, oh, did

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you know that if you shave like
a forty five degree angle round your cat's

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butthole, your cat will live eight
years longer than a bug. Just flowing

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my mouth but see, okay,
so I call that like that'd be funny

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and that's like harmless right like that. But then else something that's trending on

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Twitter and everybody's doing it pictures,
so let people understand what to do.

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It's like that guy who goes around
saying birds aren't real. Have you seen

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that guy? Yeah? They had
him on Fox News recently, So we

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could be like that. This would
mean it's like you say something enough and

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loud enough to enough people, it
gets huge. But that's a harmless right,

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cats probably no, no, no,

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but I mean like there's for society, there are the conspiracy theories that

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are harmful. We're just kiddings.
Come down, we're onto something, Mitch.

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Take this free contest about acient aliens
poster away. They're coming for us.

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We've hit a nerve. Oh man, get in the chop on.

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You know I was gonna say that, yeah, yeah, oh lord.

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But anyway, well, I didn't
mean to keep you. I know you

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got it gonna get going and you
gotta, you know, do your thing

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tonight. But let me know how
that goes. Man. I'm really interested

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in that. And then I need
to get with you, because send me

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for real, send me a link
for the place down staatesse. I think

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that would be a cool event to
go to take people to whatever it,

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yes and eloise a silence but yeah, yeah, and the ancient aliens people,

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you know, like that'll be cool. I don't know if we get

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to meet him. But the camils
Zoo State Theater they had hooked us up

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with the tickets to that so and
I think they were like, we really

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appreciate what you do of helping people
and in recovery and helping people stay sober.

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So we appreciate, you know,
the camas Zoo State Theater for that

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beautiful venue. I've been there.
Yeah. I saw the Trailer Park Boys

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there, nice and beautiful. I
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down here. I saw my first
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Yeah, Clutch, I was like, what the ten dollars on?

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It was like, I'm like,
where do I go? That seems so

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intense for someplace that looks so peaceful? Yeah? Right, Like it's it's

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like so nice inside the Fear Factory. It was Fear Factory. Clutch and

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Suppultura. Their album was like bite
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what and friends like, you're just
getting the mosh pit. I'm like,

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I'm fifteen years old. I'm not
getting in the mosh pit. Like I'm

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just gonna go sit up there and
hate every minute of this. Yeah,

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that wouldn't enjoy that concert. Although
I didn't go to a tattoo piercing festival,

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and it was kind of the same
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were getting tattoos on the streets.
It's very strange, looked on sanitary,

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like where are the nipples. I
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and pushed out over. Oh no, okay, yeah, that's a different

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kind of thing. I was thinking
about some other cancers. I'm there,

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I'm there right, like, so
imagine exactly the people that were there are

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exactly who you think they are,
which I'm not saying there's anying wrong with

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it, right, but think of
the clothes that they would wear, and

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then there's me in my polo and
you guy stood out real man didn't have

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tattoos at the time. Yeah,
that was an awkward It was very awkward

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for sure. I was afraid this
guy was gonna fall off the hooks into

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the crowd. That's disgusted thing.
Yep, that was fun anther a rock

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metal. We can combine those two
stories that just start a podcast called two

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Guys, One Story. Now all
right, all right, well we're out

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of here, Matt, thanks again
for stopping by from Portapaloosa twenty twenty three.

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Thanks to the Diction Treatment Services North, the Michigan Regional Entity for you

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know, having us out putting everything
on and you know, doing a good

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thing for the people in the community. And of course we love ats you

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guys. You guys rock man.
You're like our or we're like your little

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brother. I think that's that's what
we tell people. Yeah, we're not

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brothers, we're just like we step
brothers. Yeah, but we like working

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with you guys, and you know, appreciate what you guys do and how

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you guys help us. Some things
you appreciate you guys in the community.

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Cool. Thanks sir, Thanks for
listening to the two seventeen Recovery Podcast.

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We hope you come back for our
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