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up over there for you to view. Now. This is part two,
the conclusion of our amazing conversation with all of our esteemed guests over there.
I hope you guys have enjoyed it as much as I did. So,
without further ado let's get right into it. All you have to do is
sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. I definitely agree with that
great question RPG no pressure, Tim, But it is now time for your
question. How are you going to top RPG Subterranean Sasquatch? Wait a minute,
I think Joe's got something to say here. Okay, guys, We're
so sorry, but we're actually in Mothman territory right now up here in Point
Pleasant, West Virginia. We're doing some work and the men in black are
getting ready to yank us out of this room, so we've got to jet.
I'm so sorry that we got to go. It's that will never be
seen again. We love you guys, See you, guys. I had
one more quick thought about sub training sasquest before we move on really quickly.
It is something I forgot to mention, and this is just goes anecdotally to
the idea of using underground or hidden places. So a couple of years ago,
Seth and some of the rest of the STM crew they interviewed a guy
in Pennsylvania who had an experience that he believed the sasquatch inside of an abandoned
a turnpike tunnel. So throughout Pennsylvania there's a bunch of these abandoned highway tunnels
that are literally in the middle of nowhere. I might be going to some
of them soon. You may see a video on that, just putting that
out there. One of these ones which is now actually used for some kind
of race car testing. At the time when the guy had the siding in
the early two thousands, so he was a backpacker and he was hiking in
this area and we have the interview with him on YouTube. He was inside
one of thesennels because the trail happen across. Oh, let's check it out.
And they were using it for salt storage at the time for winter.
And they're in the middle of this tunnel and they say they heard what found
like wood falling, and then they got roared at by something that was just
unbelievable. They felt it vibrating their chest. The stereotypical kind of experience somebody
has, which I've heard a dozen times. Basically, even my buddy Brian
in the chat hadn't encounter roared at. You feel it vibrating the chest.
So that was an interesting one. And now, of course that tunnel is
being it's privately owned and it's being used for race car testing. But I
think if that indeed was a sasquatch, which we don't know if it was,
but the guy seemed to believe it was, maybe that just goes to
the opportunistic thing, maybe moving through a tunnel and somebody happens to go in
there by accident. So just something I forgot to add. And during my
initial point about subtraining sasquatch. So RPG, you got us rolling on this
topic. Can I drop in real quick? But first of all, this
is wonderful. I hang with kids all day, so to be around you,
gentlemen, I wish we all would cloth he'd be really rad. So
in down low frequency sound, if anyone can answer it is, I think
that would be optimal down there because if you have this gap and then there's
a large cave on the other side that's been blocked or whatever, you'd be
able to use that sound. So if we're in the cave system, because
they have tech now that it's down a five hundred bucks, you can get
a mobile unit that you can attach to your computer and actually record. I'm
right on the fence of getting one, right But using that in the tunnels,
you pick that up, or even just pick that up in the woods
in a place where there's no gators, there's no hippos, there's you know
what I mean, you're in the sitting or whatever. Boom, you just
found another angle for proving the existence of an unknown animal. So I'm really
fascinated about bringing infrastuand down there. I think in terms of consumer reach,
that's the closest we're going to get the big pack at this point. But
yeah, infrasound is where I would like the experiment and dabble with, so
any advice from any of you gentlemen would be much appreciated. Joe and Jesse
from All That Holler have one of those portable units. It's a nice size
little unit. It's not too big. It's really easy to move around.
Also, there was recently this scientist life and husband team in Africa. They
wrote a paper this was like end of last year, which I read having
a little back and forth with them about it. But they basically nonchalantly said
that they believe that gorillas have produced infrasonic vocalizations that they called the berry White
effect, which I came across this paper, and I think I probably shared
it to Mike and Shane at some point in the group chat. I don't
remember. I know it's been a while since I shared it, but yeah,
it was very It was nonchalant. They basically said they believe that male
gorillas create a Barry White effect which affects the female gorillas with infersonic vocalizations,
which kind of interesting because the only other primates to my knowledge, were the
lesser, really small ones that might have used infrasound. It wasn't really known.
But yeah, that was I can link that article. I think I
have it somewhere if somebody's curious or wants to read about it. They just
nonchalant they messaged it. I'm like, hey, slow down, can we
talk about thistle more. You can't just throw Barry White out and mic drop
and leave the room. Man, you gotta go in that detail question,
what are you was searching for Barry White or for the this infrasound stuff?
That's the best thing said, Yeah, I love that, Thank you.
I can't wait to read that. Some of the very briefly, and I
noticed a comment in chart that was very intriguing to me. What do you
guys think of this? Oh? Do you think that the underground is where
they take the ones that die. That's an interesting question. They have to
go a long way and why we don't find the bodies. But in actuality,
if they were taking him into caves, it would be a lot easier
for us to find the bones because they would probably fossilize in a cave and
be there for us to get later on down the line. But I don't
know. Do we want to go around the horn and answer that really quickly?
Yeah, let's start with OURPG. Let him go there. I think
they give the body to the porcupine gods, and the porcupines devour and eat
that thing damn quick. Combined with the rest of the forest and the way
basically rain becomes acid and melts it down. I think it's a very quick
turnaround for the most part, and they would know that. But is anything
possible? Do they have a giant burial elephant slash bigbook graveyard down there?
And sure? And I hope Alec finds it and he calls us all immediately
and goes get your ass here because it's gone. I'm definitely flying in for
that, What say you, Shane? Yeah, I don't think they haven't
need the barrier. The porcupine guyz that was awesome. Yeah. I do
a lot of shed hunting, and I recently was out looking for sheds,
and then it's amazing how quickly animals will tear apart a shed. I've already
noticed a shed that could be a four pointer and it's been nibbled on its
slowly, and before long it'll be gone. Bones are the same way as
RPG said. The acidity and the soil and the rain and the deep dark
places where I think these things go and pass away with like a dog or
a cat, any animal that knows the wrong our way out that's injured,
they're gonna find a spot where they're not gonna be tested with. They're not
gonna be eaten alive. They want to die peacefully. I kind of think
Sashquat's are the same way. And then nature takes over. I've seen elk
carcases disappear in the span of a couple of days, just completely gone off.
The animals are dragging them away and eating. But where the bones go.
Yeah, so everything, especially with the forests and stuff, they just
nature takes care of it real quick. It's just natural. Anybody else have
anything on that before we move on to Tim's question, Go ahead, Alex,
Yeah, just got I would agree with Shane. I think a good
example of this is the largest supposed ape in history, right, which is
the Gigantopithecus, which Grover Krantz believed might be a likely candidate for sasquatch.
Obviously, that's a classic theory. It's not a new one by any beans,
but that ape gigantic supposedly right, very closely related to rank tanks,
at least from what we think now, in the pongid kind of line.
The only fossil evidence we have that it even existed were some teeth and some
bone fragments, and that was because they were in caves, and porcupines ate
the rest of the bones. But these apes lived in those kind of the
bamboo forests and that very kind of tropical area in southern China and into what's
now Indo China Vietnam allows those kinds of areas. Those are environments where fossilization
doesn't really happen unless you're in a specific circumstance like a cave, which would
preserve fossils. And in this case, the only reason those bones were even
in there is because occupines dragged some of them in there and we're eating the
rest, and I guess that's all that was left, at least from my
knowledge of it. So I think if that were going on, we probably
would have found some kind of evidence of that. In North America. Maybe
the thing to look at is you can get online. You can find the
information out on the forensic science body farms where they actually go out and state
different types of bodies out in the field and how they decompose. There's plenty
of studies on that, and even our ancestors that they are finding in the
caves. You're finding actually three and four different sections of the lineage stacked on
top of each other in some of these cave systems. That's a big thing
there is really take a look again, getting outside the box. It's not
always the big foot subject that we're going to find our answer, and when
you really need to take a look at some of that forensic science stuff that's
out there for the data collection. If you're not too weak a heart or
stomach, check some of the body farm stuff out because some of those videos
are out there and they use those things for a lot of forensic science stuff.
Very good point. Tim Howard off the hook, My friend, what
is your question for the great so convinced? Are you that something exists?
Bigfoot sasquatch, whatever you want to call it, And if it's not one,
what makes you doubt on those days? Because I know, Brian,
you know I've talked about those days. Five out of seven days you think
exist and the other two days you question it. So that's my question for
the group questions two part. Let's go straight to Mike. We'll just go
around the horn here. Mike, I'm about four days out of the week
that it's not real, and three days of the week I am on the
real side of things. What keeps me going is the friends that I've met
and talked to about their experiences and some of the stuff that's come to me
through some folks, folks like Joe that I've sat there listened to him,
my buddy Ray and talking to the guys that were with him when he had
his sighting. They had a full team of military guys that had their sighting.
And those guys have come to me individually telling me they're going to,
you know, let me know about the story about what happened. Swearing on
their families, their jobs, their careers and putting that on the line.
Those sightings, those reports keep me going. Then when I'm about ready to
walk away, something in the universe gets slapped in my face. And I
won't call it the WU stuff, but the things are there. Alex and
I were just down in Florida and had some friends come across stuff. But
it's the hunt. And then you have gentlemen like Daniel working on the DNA
thing, you know, the science experiments that are coming out there, or
Shane and his crew up there up north and what they keep coming across.
Shane and I have talks about what they have with their nests, and we've
seen duplicate things like that on the East coast. So when the data points
hit, it keeps me going. But then there's days you're out in the
woods and you're like nothing's happened. And I spend quite a few weeks a
year in the woods, either up here in the northeast or down to the
southeast, and it just, I don't know, it just keeps me going.
But like I said, there's three out of the four days a week.
But again, it's some witnesses that I've seen that you can tell have
had some sort of traumatic experience that I'm on the hunt to see if maybe
who can help prove them. And I got a background in archaeology and apology
as well law enforcement, so investigations and that data points are so important to
me. Excellent, sir, what say you, Shane? One hundred percent
the real living, breathing entity out in the woods are in parts of North
America. Absolutely, Even if I didn't have my two nighty experience, which
actually I saw this thing, I probably ninety percent that they were real.
But now it's not in the question. The question for me is how many
are there out there? Where are they going, what are they doing,
what are they eating? How do they survive? Did they cross the barren
strait the land bridge? Those are the questions I have Now I've spoken as
like I said, hundreds of witnesses over the years, from all walks of
life. They described the same thing that I experienced, and in which as
I've had over the years, I don't have them all the time, very
rarely, but you come across pristine trapped impression out there near middle of nowhere,
and it's not just one. There's you have the hair that's been identified
as primate hair that lacks in the duel, it's primate hair is and it's
got those red pingmentations aren't even microscope as we're talking about earlier about red the
sineming color till there's no doubt if they're vibe. I think the problem with
a lot of skip anybody to speak to, mic, I just don't think
there's that many of them out there. I really don't. I don't think
there needs to be. You look into a lot of primate non human primates,
great age, so they don't need huge number. They really don't.
The tap of newly orangutang, discovered in Indonesia in twenty seventeen, blew Western
sciences mind. They had no idea you, over two hundred years of studying
great apes, that there was this five hundred orangutang in this one area that
the Aborigines, that the people that lived there knew about. They've been talking
about it. Yeah they're there in Western science and Nope, there's no way.
Then a skull comes forward, and then you an expedition. I've funded
expedition to this area and lo and behold, there is a whole new species
on the rangutang. What is the Native Americans been saying here in North America?
The First Nations and the yeah, the Sasquats are there. Yeah,
what is Western find say? No, it's impossible. They will be proven
wrong one day, and people like your Jeff Meldrem's and your John Benner Nagles
and you're John Manzinski and all these times will be vindicated. But I think
it's just it's a number of thing. I just don't think there's that many
out there. They generally avoid people like the play, and so when you
have an experience or an encounter, it's an amazing thing. But as an
investigator and researcher, mind bikes to people is I don't do so much like
ambulance chasing. If there's a report somewhere, unless it's got some directly involved
with what the Olyn project is doing, or it's an area of interest that's
awesome, or unless it's really fresh, I'll take notes of that, But
I think it's more important to stay in one area where something has occurred,
whether you've had a signing or there've been a lot of reports. If they've
been there once, chancells I'll to come back at some point in time,
and you just need to learn that environment, figure out the travel corridors,
figure out the food, figure out the weather pattern, and maybe you'll try
gold one day. I love these answers. This is why you guys are
absolutely the best panel, because everybody comes at this from a little bit of
a different perspective. I absolutely love it. Alex, Yeah, this is
a complex question. I think a lot of people grapple with. I think
a lot of it's personal base that you talk to somebody like Shane who's had
an experience. I've been to his sighting location, He's taken me there,
we've camped there. I don't see why something like this wouldn't exist in an
area like that. It's the mount Hood Wilderness. It's beautiful, right.
I know plenty of other people I've talked to. I've had the luck now
to travel basically all across North America to look into this phenomena and see all
the different types of environments, whether the swamps down south, the Appalachians,
the rocky mountains of Canada, Alaska, whatever. Do I think they're in
all these environments? Maybe not. I think some are probably more conducive than
others. Drive from the east coast to Alaska, like I did last summer,
and you'll just be it's frightening how much land is still up in,
especially in northern Canada and into Alaska, that nobody's there. Everyone in Canada's
up by the border. And over the years, I've never had a sighting,
so I can't say one hundred percent. I lean very highly to that
there is something, whatever it is, there is something going on that causes
people for hundreds of years, from different walks of life, from the highest
education levels to the lowest education levels to no education levels, that are describing
almost the same exact types of encounters that to me speak to some kind of
consistency of behavior that would indicate a species. If you go anywhere in the
world and run into people, they have the same types of behaviors generally,
right. There may be cultural or ethnic differences, but we're still a uniform
species, right, So you have these things over Recently, I spent a
bunch of time looking at reports from British Columbia from the twenties and the thirties
and going back earlier when I was doing a British Columbia film after I traveled
there and I was running into these stories that you could put these up on
Bigfoot Society, on Jeremiah's podcast, or on your podcast today, Brian.
And they sound like so many of the encounters I've heard today. Yet this
was way before the Internet, way before there was ever a bigfoot or Sasquatch
topics. Yeah, I think again. I haven't had a sighting myself.
I've had a couple of experiences, a handful that I would describe as potential
behavior. I couldn't say one way or another that there are one hundred percent
sasquatch. But when you have what sounds like rocks being thrown at you and
wood knocking type noises in the middle of a remote location in Alaska, that
you know there's nobody else there, it becomes difficult to square that away.
Not to say it could be wrong, but there's something going on. I
couldn't tell you what it is. I'm just here to speculate, as I
think all of us are. We don't know the answers. But to those
that have had an experience, and I know many people like Shane that have,
I believe they had an experience. Mike talked about Joe. He had
a very interesting experience as well, yeah, I guess to wrap it up,
I do think there is something out there. There's something that's causing these
experiences people across the continent that are having eerily similar encounters. That just defies
logic. Why would they make up the same Why isn't there somebody seeing a
bigfoot dressed as a clown or something. If they're already making up these weird
details, why are these so consistent in a way. So, yeah,
that's my take on it all. Very well said last but not least RPG.
You guys basically said it, uh finding Bigfoot. One of my favorite
jobs is when I would just sit there at the door and every single person
coming to the town hall would come through me, and not everyone will be
brave enough to get up and tell their story. You better damn believe they
tell me the story. And so I just sat there unknowingly at first,
being like, holy coow, this is the greatest collection of stories like ever.
They're coming to me and I'm getting paid for this, Holy crap.
So I would agree with everyone saying, you're telling me thousands of people are
all just desperate for attention. Thousands of people got drunk enough to come lie
to me. Thousands of people are classically trained Juliart actors and actresses waiting to
bs me. That should at least make you go. And then I'd yet
to meet a Native American tribe that doesn't have them in their oral history.
I know we're meant to not see them and they meant to be invisible,
but guess what they're not. And their foundation of wisdom is much older than
mine. So once again, why wouldn't you believe that? And on top
of that, yeah, just do a deep dive tonight on federal tracks of
land and tell me that is not a game preserved for whatever. There could
be dinosaurs out there, and occasionally Petrick Dacko flies out and one of us
is lucky enough to take our head out of our butt a gere phone,
look up and record it. Because I don't know about you, guys.
I've had real experiences where I saw UFO in LA and I love UFOs.
I love all this stuff. It's the coolest, most exciting thing ever.
And I denied it three times in a row to my buddy. Now it's
just a plane because I was sucked into my phone like an idiot. And
that's me. Ever since that day you say something weird, I'm on it.
But even I was like no, So I got used to lifeguard and
that one time I had to make the big save everything when it was like
your journalin kicks and everything's different. I don't know, man, It's very
hard to have a coherent moment when a miracle happens in front of you,
but it's also completely memorable and something you can never shake. And when these
people tell me those stories, I don't know. I don't know. I
just I lean to it. And I've seen some stuff. I've had class
A sightings that were brief. I'm not going to say one hundred percent because
I haven't had the frame it where it just walks in front of me and
I just I just want to call my mom and tell her I love her
and she did a good job raising her son. But I've also deep dove
on all of the greatest footage, and I firmly believe that if we are
brilliant enough to think of it, then we are brilliant enough to fake it.
And so that kind of that will always give me that one percent until
I have my Patty. That's it, Mike Drop. Stay tuned for more
sasquatch out to see We'll be right back. After these messages, I think
I'm definitely right there with you. As Tim said, he and I have
had these conversations in the past, I've shifted a little bit. I used
to be about five days out of seven. Now I'm about six and a
half days out of seven certain that something's there. And I tell you it
was because of some of the experiences that I've had Kierro on Ireland, and
then when I went up to Radium. I don't know what was throwing rocks
at me eighteen miles deep in the woods when nobody else was around. I
don't know what was making the wood knox. I don't know what was making
those vocalizations unless it was a sasquatch. But again, I think I'll have
to hold out just a little bit. My brain just will not allow me
to one hundred percent commit until I see it for myself. So I don't
know what about you, Dan, I think half days a week, I'm
yeah, absolutely real, half days a week. I have no idea.
Possibly not. I haven't had a experience myself, but I was in the
library yesterday and I was sat for probably about two hours reading through history books
looking for any kinds of history of these eight feet tall wild man. Let's
say, and we found a few things that kind of increased me a bit
more. And I think going to the States, I think there's more of
a chance in some of the states over in America. In the UK,
I'm probably five percent that there's some I don't think so, but there is
some weird stuff going on here. I think it again depends on where you
are in the world, can define where these creatures are. Say, if
you're in Washington, I think, yeah, absolutely so, Yeah, I'm
right there with you, my friend, Mike, you get the honor of
the last question of the day for the panel man. What say you?
What's your question for us? What gets you guys to pick your location outside
of the report? What draws you to a location? Very good, simple
question. Let's start at the top. I think I know Shane's answer,
but let me go ahead and go to Shane first and letting him start,
and we'll go around the horn on this one. Yeah, Ryan, you're
probably right. With the Inlymic project. For example, this nest study are
we've been working in was an area that we had picked out. We were
led there and then subsequently, having come across some stuff, we decided to
set up base. This is spot. We've been at it since twenty fifteen,
in this one location. It's a very vast area and getting brilliant further
out. Obviously, like we said, beside sightings and stuff. I like
remote areas, but it's got to be also within reason, because we'd all
love to be out there in the middle of nowhere doing this stuff all the
time. But it takes time travel and so you got to live within your
means. I'm up in western Washington to get up in the Olympics, it
takes me to a half hour that go as much as I can, But
I have spots closer to home that are very valuable. But what I look
for is just usually try to find a fairly remote area, and on top
of that real quick. It doesn't have to be a remote area their sasquatch
reports right upside talents even backsim Seattle, Washington. But I just like those
areas where I get away from humans and less contamination, less chance of being
fulled or hoped. Those are big things for me. I like to find
those areas where you always hear people go oh no, one's ever been here.
If you're there, someone might have been there. But I like to
get down to an area where the chance of someone been there is unlikely,
or it's unlikely they've been there in a while, and it's unlikely they'll go
there. There's we don't opt to walk, wood, food, water sources.
I like elevation changes, mountains. I really do believe Sasquatch is utilizing
a lot of these mountains. I've taken too many reports where it's going up
a hill and they're watching this thing, and it gets up there so quick,
and then when you try to follow it, you're stumbling over stuff,
you're tripp in. You can't. It's just a quick escape. Even the
necessary wherein there's quick escape routes, very sharp drops that it'll take me twenty
minutes to get down and pry these things mere seconds. So it's areas where
there's a lot of cover, food sources, obviouste elevation changes. I mean
I look for no animals. Can a bears arrive here? You know,
a mountain line, a deer and elk? Sometimes you know the best areas
are where there are no reports because it obviously takes a human and a sashquatch.
Right, just because there's no reports from one area doesn't mean there's no
sashquatch. Just means maybe nobody's going there and no one's seen one yet,
you know, So it's really getting down and find you know, like these
burgon areas. I think that those are important. More people that instead of
going Ferrea where there's been a day report, start looking outside the box.
Thinging outside the box, listening how to come from somewhere, and let me
look at the map. There's no campgrounds here, Oh, it's just or
if it's there's a creek, there's a river, there's a lake. Yeah,
that's what I do, and a lot of the Link Project members do.
But a lot of cases were led to a location. Not so much
now we have pre areas. I mean, we don't really get out of
those areas. We love them too much and they seem to produce periodically,
so sometimes it is led there. But yeah, well I hope that worked
for you, Mike, thank you. Yep. What about you, Alex?
Yeah, that's a great question. So I think I've got like a
multi tiered approach to this because if I'm home here in the state of New
Hampshire and clip Berrickman likes to say the best place is to go bigfooting or
to do your research. Are the ones that are easy to get to,
right it's accessible. You're trying to do in and out all the time twice
a week, especially during COVID during the initial kind of lockdowns, I was
going out to an area that I had had some experiences in almost every day
and it was something that I could drive to after work. I'm here in
a sure it's the second most forested state in the US after neighboring Maine.
We've just got a lot of connected to Canada, millions of acres of woods.
But when I'm around here, I look at, Okay, can this
habitat support moose? As there are thousands of moose running around largest animal in
North America basically, and I see a lot of other places that have moose,
And that's a biological metric I like to look at just because you're if
it's supporting a seven to seven hundred to one thousand pound animal and there's hundreds
of them running around, I think it might be able to support the other
ones, the smaller ones, anything from sasquatch size to bears and then down
from there. Of course, you need to have somewhat of a health ecosystem,
so I guess locally, that's my approach. I look for those sorts
of biological metrics. Obviously, water sources up here. You don't have to
go very far without finding a creek or a pond or a river. There's
a lot of water sources. It'd be different in a place, say out
west, where it's a little dryer, maybe in the Rocky mountains or something.
But when it's like my beyond the Trail approach that I've been doing now
since twenty twenty one, that's dependent a lot of times I only have three
or four days to go to a place. That's not a lot of time.
So you've got to work with local researchers. I work with people who
have had experience as they take me where it's happened, you know, maybe
like I was in the Honey Island Swamp in Louisiana last month. I was
there last year as well, around the same time of year, and so
water levels are high, animals are moving in certain corridors. Speaking of corridors,
I'll get to that a second. But in the Honey Island Swamp.
I went to an area where there's multiple experiences that have happened to people that
I had been in contact with, and hey, let's try this out.
Let's see if we go in here and find the evidence of anything. And
again, three four days, it's really not a lot of time. I
think, typically, like what the Olympic Project does, what other groups have
done, setting up more for a long term time period, I think is
probably more ideal. But a lot of times when I'm out there filming,
I just don't have the time to do that. So I try to take
as much of an approach. But like Mike had mentioned recently, and we
were in a corridor area in Florida where buddy of ours, Matt Larson,
has been hitting that area for three plus years, and it says this is
a choke point where you need to get from point The animals they all move
from point A to point B to a larger habit. They have to go
through this two mile wide corridor. They have to. So why not focus
on an area like that catch something trying to come through? Yeah? I
think again when it comes to what when I select an area, the some
multitude of factors, whether if it's something more local, or if I'm being
directed there, or if I just sometimes I'll just look on Google Earth and
be like, this looks like a great spot and maybe there's no history at
all. Shane said, there might not even need to be in new reports.
Go check it out, see if it might be viable, and you
never know. Some of the most random potential encounters I've had was backpacking in
the high you Wintas of Utah. We're just up in the mountains and suddenly
we're getting knocks and stuff happening and weird stuff. We're just trying to get
to this lake we're hike in the middle of the night. That's all we're
trying to do. So sometimes it can be random like that. But yeah,
I don't think there's a set kind of messa, just different. I
think it depends on the locations too. What about you, RPG What drives
you to an area for research? In my opinion, they use the river
like a water slide and they come cruising down because they can be no humans
out there. We're scared to death. They're catching food. I don't know,
to them, I think we need to look at them like they are
us, like just really not try to put them in any other category and
just go what would you do. I'll tell you what I would do if
all of us were hanging in the woods. We're going to have some fun.
Son, We're going to have some fun. And I'm going to go,
oh yeah, Shane, I bet you can't climb that tree in five
seconds, And Shane would be like your mom and then you would go climb
that tree in four seconds. I just think if we look at them,
because we learn through play, right, they must learn through play. So
in my opinion, the younger ones, which I think we're seeing much more
of, especially daytime sighting. When did you sneak out when you were growing
up when your parents were asleep? If they predominantly are awake at night sleep
during the day, that's when the teens are outrunning. I got this awesome
start to a film that I want to share with you guys at some point
that you'll appreciate. Coabitations bet because what is it? Okay, let's just
talk about nature for a second. Minimalizing risks, right, because if you
get hurt as an apex predator, you're done or you're in severe trouble.
So they want to minimalize risk by cohabitating and showing that there is this standard
like I always do the same things. I feed the crows, peck my
chicken from the hawks. They see that I'm not a threat. I believe
I then have a better chance of them slipping up. And we'll call it
slipping up. Because we had a gator living on our property for a year
and a half, which is an amazing story. I'd love to get interview.
And nobody know what was here, not even the superstar Redneck of the
Year two thousand and one, twenty twenty four. He had no idea and
it was literally in this tiny little hole rat in his yard, a dinosaur
and we didn't know. There's stories of lions in the Serengetti living right with
Masai tribes all around them that hunt and kill them for rights of passage.
They don't know they're there because they adapted. Yes, you get lucky here.
But now with that said, anybody that is ballsy enough to go real
remote, real remote, I want in on that, because I think that's
you list into Bobo's first interaction. He just drove on that logging road to
the middle of nowhere and just started howling and it didn't take very long for
them to show up and be like, now you don't run this town.
Sign, you don't run this town. So I like both. I like
finding a really beautiful spot and I wish that for everybody that's into this,
and then a group of friends that are balls enough for us to go far
and where it's a little scary for us. That's why twos, I'm ready
to go on that trip with you. I want to be respectful of everybody's
time. Daniel and I had some questions. We're going to table those.
We've been going almost an hour and a half. Run did we do tim
I'll make it quick again for the interest of time. I think number one
being realistic with yourself. You've got to be able to get to you an
area and access it as much as you can. If it's six hours away,
how often are you going to be really able to get there. So
it's got to be within your time frame where you can get there often,
and when you're there, it takes time. You got to become normal in
that environment because you've got to be non threatful, threatening, and you've got
to become just like everything else out there. So when you're there the more
time it takes time, the more time you're in an area, and that
area it's going to be you're just going to be like any other thing in
the woods, so you're going to be less threatening. And again it could
become to how you prepare yourself or whether they know what firearms are or not.
I'm not sure, but I think the reports are interesting because, like
Shane said, it takes you got to have a bigfoot, you got to
have a witness. But then you've got that witness has to actually have to
report it too. So sometimes reports are great, but then some people aren't
even reporting them to hold them in their back pocket. And like any other
animal, you would think the food, shelter and one and cover though,
so cover again for escape measures and water so that they've got to be around.
They've got to if they've got to have things to eat, and they
need water, and then they've got to have areas to hide and sleep.
That's where I wouldn't say be the best spots for me. We've closed out
the questions. Everybody had excellent answers, obviously excellent questions. It was an
amazing discussion, but I want to give everybody a quick opportunity to talk about
what they've got going on, what you guys got coming up. I know
you guys have got irons in the fire and appearances, and we want to
be respectful and let everybody know where they can catch up with you, where
they can see you, where they can go, and let's start at the
top there and work our way around with Shane. Go ahead, sir,
Yeah, I knew some speaking again, Agent throughout the year. I'm trying
to keep it to a minimal because then you're speaking more than you're being in
the woods. I've been trying to really recurvetale some of that. I get
the squats best down in January, down in Kelso, Washington. I'll be
in Tennessee July, Gatlinburg Junior July. I forget July twenty seventh, the
Smoky Mountain Bigfoot Conference. Correct, Yeah, it should be a good one.
And then I got a few more Sashquatch, some of the in the
Ocean Shores Washington coming up in November, and a few smaller ones. But
mainly it's this time of the year right now, one of my favorite times
beyond the woods, this Nestary. I don't want to keep talking about all
the time, but it's just fascinating to me. They were discovered in twenty
fifteen, the month of May. We think they're being made in February March
every four to five years. We're on that cycle now where we've literally just
started getting out in the woods end up showering area for large ground nest or
any sign Broklyn Huckleberry that leads to impressions. We've been running a long term
audio project down in these areas for a couple of years now, recording every
night, cut along every animal, every Chris Bentry's been leading that up and
David Ellis and a few of us. We're just continuing to plug weight in
two specific areas in hopes of not just get up on audio and not just
buying physical piece of evidence. Right now, we're running a really cool thermal
project where we're trying to be able to them nightly for days and if not
weeks on end, NonStop. I just said up a therm out there yesterday
as an experiment to see how much I'll get out of it with battery life
and storage. So after a neat little product we're working on, Yeah,
just plugging away like everybody else awesome, sir. We appreciate that. Alex.
I know you've always got a lot of irons in the fire. What
can you tell us you got coming up? Man? Yeah, I've got
a lot. It's sometimes hard to keep tract of it myself, but yeah,
I guess like in events, like Shaane was saying, I don't do
too many. I prefer being out in the woods and doing stuff. But
I do have a few this year, doing the International Cryptosology Conference in Maine,
which is in April, doing one that him is actually helping them put
together down in New Jersey. I think that's in June, tim, but
yeah, sometime in June, and then I'm doing the Smoky Mountain one.
Also, we've got the small Town Monsters Monsterfest end of June, which Mike
is gonna be at as well as a speaker. He's going to do a
cool workshop. I'm doing the Alaska big Foot Crews with RPG, which is
really fun. I wouldn't want to do that kind of thing. I love
going to Alaska as in September. But aside from the events, and I
have some of that on my website if you're curious, petacovmedia dot com.
I've got, of course, might be on the Trail series that I've been
doing for a few years. I'm gonna be stepping away from that a little
bit, doing it to a little lesser capacity. As I was talking about
the minds and the stuff earlier, I'm really on board with this Strange Places
series that I'm doing, which is beyond Bigfoot. It's all kinds of other
maybe some other paranormal topics a little bit, but mostly weird and interesting locations.
So a lot of stuff you can find on the Small Town Monsters website
or YouTube channel what I'm up to. But yeah, I've got probably more
going on than I can handle. But that's how I like it, so
I wouldn't want it any other way. Love it? Man? What about
you? RPG the busiest man in Bigfoot? What you get coming up?
Me? Busy? I'm not as busy as Alex. Are you kidding me?
I can't even believe he's sitting down. You should be like on location
fridging towards Vlast City of Gold. Come on now, which I'm sure he's
already dug deep and he's about to do a documentary on we know this.
We know this. You look up, gather up events from the Great floorda
Bigfoot conference in June where they were smart enough to bring in a couple of
wonderful gentlemen on this panel, and then obviously July Smoky Mountains, Alaska.
I'm stoked to get back. Last time I filmed there, it was for
a series which was really cool. It's about the plane that went down with
a politician and what really happened. That's not the whole story, but the
weather was just changing. And for those of you that been to Alaska,
if you're there at the wrong time, you better be a man's man or
a woman's woman because it'll kick your butt. But besides that, I'm really
excited now that prices on infant isund have come down to really go in that
direction because I know I bring it back to academia. But really what we're
talking about is everybody respect everyone because we're all in the pickfoot right. But
then there are avenues mine Shafts will call him, that were stated on for
the moment, and that's where our guts toll us explore that figure that out.
For me. I like in for Son and I'm into the underground now
too, So I think if we can all kind of respect that we're all
into the same thing, but we have a different approach. Then it's awesome
because it's going to be something somebody says that's like a ghost hunter and you're
like, wait, what, I had that experience, and then you start
combining things. I just think an open mind is a terrible thing to waste.
I just hope to surround myself this year with as many open minded people
as possible. And I really hope I can work with Daniel sometime in the
future, because I hear he's a hot shit and a good kid. You've
also missed a conference in April. Oh yes, all right, there's more
good things coming into the UK. I've signed an NDA, so I'm not
allowed to talk about anything. You know that I don't want to get sued
by the Brits. But yeah, we have this awesome little get together and
it will be the first time where Ronnie and I really get to sit side
by side and talk, which I think is great for public because as you
replace me, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't be best buds and you shouldn't
lift each other up and learn from each other. Yeah, lots of cool
stuff and if anybody, like I said, is going remote remote, whether
you're in this chat or any of you guys, and you need a badass
dude to join you top of the morning til you here's your paperwork far like
the NDA, what about you and Tim Howard? What have you got coming
up with? My friend? Oh man, I guess for person, and
Foremot says someone here. Now, I'm feverishly trying to get the second volume
of the book complete. I don't even want to put a date on it
yet because if I do, I'm gonna I know I'm going to miss the
date. So trying to get volume two the big Foot Influencers done. Obviously,
our weekly podcast goes out every single Sunday, a part of the Untold
Radio Network, which is amazing. A lot of you folks have been on
there already and more to come. And then I guess the next event.
Alex mentioned one in June that I don't know if I'm really helping, but
I'm just supporting it in North Jersey. And then the next one though,
Ohio big Foot Conference. I know mister Brian will be there and I'll look
forward Senior there and yeah, just keeping busy. It's a lot of work,
but we love it. That's why we're all doing this absolutely. Mike,
what about you, sir? I I will be heading Ohio in June
for Monsterfest, as Alex said, September, I will be in Whitehall,
so those are my two bigfoot events. Alex will be there for white All
as well in June with my co host Christy London. There we'll be doing
the Rochester Parafests, a big fundraiser for our local veterans outreach. Then I
have my podcast for as my sage, so we're always out doing some paranormal
stuff. On the side, I'm going to be pushing a lot more on
using panatones and colors. When you guys are talking about what colors did you
see? It's a nice official color. Shane and Alex have seen that,
and and Daniel firsthand on how we really can get that information going, and
trying to do a deep dive more on UV light and hopefully some of that's
going to come out from our experiments last weekend and the swamps of Florida,
pumbre u of V stuff, and then of course trying to help our friend
Derby there at NC State University. Of course, that hair study time for
folks to put up, shut up, get your samples out. If they're
paying for the samples to be tested, we want to know about that DNA.
Send that stuff to Derby because he's got all that information going. I
just sent a whole bunch of known animal samples to him. So got with
some taxi ermists and said stuff out to them. So folks should say,
can't pay for it. They're paying the bill. So trying to help network
our friends. That's my big thing right now, collect as much data.
That's where I'm at. So we had Ohio and then Whitehall are my two
big ones in the Rochester Veri Fest. So awesome Darby Orcutt right here in
my home state of North Carolina doing some fantastic stuff. Daniel, what about
you, sir? What have you got coming up? As I mentioned with
RFG in April, we've got the VIP Bigfoot Bash with RPG there, Ronnie
LeBlanc and Runner Holland hit here in the UK. Can't wait for that.
And then I will be at the Great Florida Bigfoot Conference in O'calla in June.
Can't wait. And then we have the big conference coming up here in
July Brian you as our guest headliner that quipped the conference UK. So my
kind of three big conferences this year and a few others coming up, and
then i have obviously my Mythical Legends podcast, and then I've got my new
book out, My Bigfoot Life. Yes, I'm everywhere excellent. I will
be at the Ohio Bigfoot Conference. I'll be hanging out with Cliff Berrickman there.
Cliff actually wrote the forward to my new book, Sasquatch Unleashed the truth
behind the legend. It is everywhere. You can get it anywhere you get
books. You can get it directly from us if you get a Paranormal Wardproductions
dot com. We're selling some autograph copies there and we got some cool book
bundles. I will be there. I'll be in Okala at the break Florida
Bigfoot Conference. I will be up in the Smoky Mountain Conference as well.
I'll be all over the place. I think we've got like ten or twelve
events through the rest of the year. You guys can go check all of
that out at Paranormal World Productions dot com. I appreciate everybody here. I
thank you guys so much for taking time out of your busy schedules to be
with us. This was one of the most awesome Bigfoot round tables I have
ever been a part of. You got something before we get out of here,
Daniel are on. Thank you to everyone in the chat, and thank
you for everyone here on the panel for making this happen and it's been amazing.
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