1 00:00:01,399 --> 00:00:07,240 Hello world. You're listening to Eleanor Wagner's Strange and Scary world here on the 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:13,119 Paranormal UK Radio Network, where we're always creeping it real. I'm your host, 3 00:00:13,359 --> 00:00:19,079 Eleanor Wagner. Welcome all to my today's guest is a real life pack 4 00:00:19,359 --> 00:00:26,920 detective turned her own light from prime victim crime solver. She's also able to 5 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:33,799 get het and what life. Join me and welcoming Psyched Nate Orlean Weber. 6 00:00:35,039 --> 00:00:40,320 Welcome, Thank you, Hello Eleanor, and thank you and am I excited 7 00:00:40,679 --> 00:00:45,039 to you today? Well, I'm hoping we can help others, right, 8 00:00:45,359 --> 00:00:50,520 Oh that's great, Yeah, especially if they're looking for somebody that does what 9 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:55,719 you Well, I think it has practical applications for every day also, sure 10 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,280 right, sure, Well let's start with your pride suits. I'm sure it 11 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:06,280 can be a GISs, the safety of yourself, family and those involved. 12 00:01:07,359 --> 00:01:11,799 How many cases would you say you worked on and or so many years of 13 00:01:11,879 --> 00:01:19,120 working with the police. I know I was involved in finding parts for thirteen 14 00:01:19,159 --> 00:01:30,400 cases that led to life in prison for two serial killers and eleven murderers and 15 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:38,840 an a rapist of eighteen women, the last one almost died and some federal 16 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:44,640 ones I'm not allowed to talk about. And I've worked on probably a couple 17 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:52,480 of hundred cases in forty years, but I'm not always told the answers the 18 00:01:52,519 --> 00:01:56,000 result. In fact, I got one from LinkedIn, a detective I have 19 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:00,359 worked with. I don't know. I just give it and I'm done unless 20 00:02:00,359 --> 00:02:04,680 I know them well and it's not far away. And so this one was 21 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:08,520 another state and he was just sharing, Oh, I found you, and 22 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:13,680 thank you for helping it work. And that's how sometimes I find out what 23 00:02:13,759 --> 00:02:17,159 I bet, how you find out that's okay, it's the ones that were 24 00:02:17,199 --> 00:02:23,360 local in the first ten years. And because it was all adjudicated you mentioned 25 00:02:23,439 --> 00:02:29,280 being safe, my town had me take off my number, of my door 26 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:37,560 number, of the mailbox. They kept me private for caution. And so 27 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,759 the cases, for instance, in my book are the Life of a psychic 28 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:46,280 detective, all the adjudicated cases, fully adjudicated old cases. I never discuss 29 00:02:46,439 --> 00:02:53,000 ongoing. Everything is confidential as it should be. Yeah, And besides, 30 00:02:53,039 --> 00:02:58,879 I don't want a court case ruined because the psychic help. Sure, right, 31 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:05,319 Have you ever been a free being accused of the crime themself? Nope, 32 00:03:05,599 --> 00:03:09,439 No, that's no. Never even thought about that. Well, that's 33 00:03:09,479 --> 00:03:19,080 good. Yeah, I think that belief is mandatory. It's to stay nice 34 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:23,240 and strong in it, and I never worried about that. I was also 35 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:31,120 passed around by lead detectives in cases, chief of detective, state troopers and 36 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:38,599 commissioners. So when you get that kind of referral, it's a different world. 37 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:45,960 I think it's great that their perception do it, because you would think 38 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,400 that they may not be no matter of fact, they asked for me. 39 00:03:50,599 --> 00:03:58,280 I never even uh uh no. I love Nancy Drew that he loves solving 40 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:05,000 mysteries. But I was full time since nineteen seventy five, and they knocked 41 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:13,159 on my door in nineteen eighty or earlier actually end of nineteen seventy nine, 42 00:04:13,199 --> 00:04:18,079 probably September October. I had just moved to New Jersey, Bud Lake, 43 00:04:18,319 --> 00:04:26,759 and they found me bringing my son to karate school. So before that I 44 00:04:26,879 --> 00:04:32,800 was still so busy as a psychic and medium and all the rest that I 45 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:38,160 was full time and a half and raising my two kids. So it was 46 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:44,279 interesting, to say the least, to be pulled in and suddenly, one 47 00:04:44,399 --> 00:04:47,800 day after I worked on a case, a couple of them successfully right away. 48 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:55,800 The first one I pointed to, got the indictment, got the confession 49 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,759 all done, and that was weird for me because I had never done this 50 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:06,879 before, and uh, I wasn't looking to do any more than that. 51 00:05:10,199 --> 00:05:13,800 When did you realize that you had this gift? You tap how it opened? 52 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,720 Yet you wait back when you mean the gift of finding what happening? 53 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:23,879 Is being a psychic? Oh, my whole life, I never called it 54 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:29,360 that. You know, you don't think anything's different, right, You think 55 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,360 you're just like everybody else. Well, you assume everybody can do the same 56 00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:36,600 thing, or you learn that you skip rope better than somebody else, that 57 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:43,000 they skip rope better than you, So it's no different when you know some 58 00:05:43,079 --> 00:05:46,040 things, and sure other people know some things, you just don't know. 59 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,240 They don't know that. When did you realize that you were good? Pred 60 00:05:51,439 --> 00:05:56,920 I don't know that consciously, but early in life I had a spurt by 61 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,519 my side in my crib and he would point out and tell me thinks that 62 00:06:00,639 --> 00:06:02,600 I would repeat them they would be true, and my mother would say, 63 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:09,360 shut up and go to your room. So I knew that that was not 64 00:06:09,519 --> 00:06:13,560 accepted, but didn't know why. Because I really liked the guy who taught 65 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:25,000 me. I never thought it was experienced, just that she was mad over 66 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,639 something. What it was, I had no clue, and I never even 67 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,120 had too. I didn't care, and I didn't think about it. I 68 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:39,160 went back to play. It was gradual when I was six and knew somebody 69 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:46,600 something happened to. And when I was thirteen, I knew my friend down 70 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:51,600 down the street in Brooklyn was dying and nobody else knew it. So and 71 00:06:51,639 --> 00:06:58,839 I knew when he would die a year later. And it was the response 72 00:06:58,959 --> 00:07:04,199 my mother gave me that said, this is not the usual. But I 73 00:07:04,199 --> 00:07:10,879 didn't think of anything like that. I didn't think I caused anything. I 74 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,480 got very curious early on, at age ten, I wrote a thesis on 75 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,600 the history of the insane asylum. I wanted to understand psychology and psychiatry and 76 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:25,000 abnormal psych Early on, I wanted to know why people were burned at the 77 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:32,680 stake for knowing things. I was curious, but I wasn't upset or fearful 78 00:07:33,639 --> 00:07:42,839 or concerned. I was curious, inquisitive. Did you find that it was 79 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:49,560 you or with that family that would give way? So my mother's story was 80 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:54,839 very simple. She woke up in the middle of the night in Brooklyn. 81 00:07:55,560 --> 00:08:00,759 Her mother and stepfather lived in Laconia, New Hampshire, and the rest of 82 00:08:00,759 --> 00:08:03,160 the family did to the maternal side, and she called her aunt because her 83 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,720 mother didn't have a phone, and she said, Becky and Joe just went 84 00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:13,720 over a cliff in a car and to what mountain? And her aunt says, 85 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,000 Millie, where are you? And she said, well, I'm in 86 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,000 bed. She said, go back to sleep. You're dreaming. She said, 87 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,959 no, I'm not, And get the police. I'm telling you well, 88 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,240 lights were out by nine o'clock. On their part, they never drove, 89 00:08:26,319 --> 00:08:30,120 laid or whatever. And so the end got dressed, went to their 90 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,840 home and saw the car was gone at eleven o'clock at one am in the 91 00:08:33,879 --> 00:08:37,200 morning. So called the police and yes, they had gone over a mountain 92 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,120 and they rescued them. My mother hated it. Not that she hated her 93 00:08:41,159 --> 00:08:48,720 mother. She was terrified after that of ever knowing anything. And she was 94 00:08:48,759 --> 00:08:54,039 a manicurist at some point, or studying hair or whatever. And she said, 95 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,240 do you know I didn't even get a quarter tip. This woman gave 96 00:08:56,279 --> 00:09:05,600 me predictions all king true. Woll she hated it, but so yeah, 97 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,919 yeah, I have said fans. When I was a kid, I bet 98 00:09:09,279 --> 00:09:15,879 uh predict things dreams and they were very simp to start. Then I had 99 00:09:15,919 --> 00:09:22,360 a terrifying where I drink of my godparents deaths, and of course if it 100 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:30,639 was she said, don't worry about the nightmare. And then when it came 101 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:35,679 to it freaked me out and I shut down. How old you? I 102 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:41,639 believe it was like left all the time you had terrort codes. No, 103 00:09:41,639 --> 00:09:46,759 no, nothing like that. I did learn about back parts until later my 104 00:09:46,879 --> 00:09:54,120 life. How did you get it in dreams? In my sleep? I 105 00:09:54,159 --> 00:09:58,559 would wake up It's like I would watch the full blown movie if I have 106 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,879 and uh after that and I shut down. Nothing ever came to me again 107 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:13,080 until the Father Dad, and that came to the wake dram. I was 108 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,519 sitting in traffic, in bumper and bumper traffic, so let's watching the temperridge 109 00:10:16,519 --> 00:10:22,159 when it came and let me go that you just gone oh yeah, So 110 00:10:22,519 --> 00:10:28,159 after it wasn't wakeed. I realized going on here that I really out. 111 00:10:28,279 --> 00:10:31,799 So I know, I'm sure you've hurt people, but I feel like I 112 00:10:31,879 --> 00:10:37,360 have meant to do something that I have to ask yet Yeah, and I 113 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:43,799 think I made nobing got onto four and so I've been trying to figure right 114 00:10:43,799 --> 00:10:50,759 after. I don't think it's figurable now thought, well, that's the left 115 00:10:50,759 --> 00:10:56,120 hemisphere only I am a prover out insteads not English, I know, but 116 00:10:56,279 --> 00:11:01,240 i'd prove out everything I can do, so for the When I was thirty 117 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:09,679 one, my son was about three months old, four months I decided things 118 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,559 weren't working for me, and physically I was born with a genetic defict so 119 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:18,200 I was struggling with that at that point again, and I hadn't for a 120 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,120 long time. Well, I made a decision to start deep breathing, and 121 00:11:22,159 --> 00:11:28,399 then got curious about when people say, what's you were on my mind? 122 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:33,320 Is that a literal thing or figurative? So I got journals and I made 123 00:11:33,399 --> 00:11:39,080 up stuff. I wrote, if you eat thing, if you were on 124 00:11:39,159 --> 00:11:41,600 my mind in a mental conversation with you, I wrote it down. I 125 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,600 wrote the date, and then when I could afford the phone call, I 126 00:11:45,639 --> 00:11:50,519 would call it say and they go, how did you know? And I 127 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:56,039 went, that'd be interesting. I took teny objects, right, took ten 128 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:01,000 objects around the rooms that were gifted to the family, whether gifts it to 129 00:12:01,039 --> 00:12:03,600 me or my kids, and I sat down with everything, one at a 130 00:12:03,639 --> 00:12:07,480 time. I made it all up. I didn't know anybody did anything. 131 00:12:07,519 --> 00:12:11,919 I didn't care. I understood that I had a gift through nursing proved it. 132 00:12:13,279 --> 00:12:16,519 The doctors even asked me to diagnose and how did I know it? 133 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,480 And I said, you can't see it. I thought everybody could see. 134 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,360 Oh well, I had no clue. No I mean, but running a 135 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:31,480 cute psychi unit opened every door in my life. I owe everything to everybody 136 00:12:31,519 --> 00:12:37,039 there, both the acute psychotics and the staff. The health and hospital offered 137 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,679 me the top research posts in psychiatry in this state. I turned it down 138 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,320 and opened up my practice. I was able to read what was behind the 139 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:52,480 hallucinations. I was able to read behind the murderous intent. And so I 140 00:12:52,639 --> 00:12:58,519 was doing soul readings. And every psychiatrist there wanted me to do the work. 141 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:03,320 They loved it, they told me so. And so that changed my 142 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,279 whole way of looking at the lightning bolt that just comes through and you don't 143 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,039 know how it comes and you don't know what it's about. You just know 144 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:18,720 it's there, right, and whether it's dreams or day, it didn't matter. 145 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,919 But I had no control over it, except in nursing, and that's 146 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:28,159 when I put together the idea that I needed focus. I need an tempointed 147 00:13:28,279 --> 00:13:33,360 focus in order to know what it's all about at all. I mean, 148 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,559 I don't know though we'll ever know what it's all about with us. So 149 00:13:37,639 --> 00:13:43,320 I kept journals. I wrote everything down. I had a teacher of my 150 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:50,159 daughter asked me about something and how did I ever remarry? And I was 151 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,759 annoyed at myself of being tried about it to her. I left and I 152 00:13:54,799 --> 00:13:58,960 had this whole mental conversation with her in my head. I wrote it all 153 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,440 down and I called her that night after my kids were in bed, and 154 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:07,080 it was all true, and I thought, this is really interesting. Sure, 155 00:14:07,759 --> 00:14:13,440 and so people started showing up in my life, and my title Inshrit 156 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:20,080 Agent of all people turned out to be an astrologer with the top astrologers in 157 00:14:20,159 --> 00:14:22,519 the nation. And he brought me at them, and he bought me his 158 00:14:22,679 --> 00:14:26,240 cousins, and he bought me everybody at night after kids were in bed, 159 00:14:26,279 --> 00:14:31,759 and he'd say, just tell them whatever you see, and so I did, 160 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,240 and I got into trans mediumship through that. But everything was proven out 161 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,480 except who that man in my life was. From the crib to the trans 162 00:14:43,519 --> 00:14:48,159 mediumship. You know, I still get curious about that, but that's something 163 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:54,960 I'm still looking at. I think you mean the wide which twice he has 164 00:14:54,039 --> 00:15:01,840 a name, but I'm not ready to share that with the world yet in 165 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:07,360 that way, because I study enough psychology to know egos get involved in everything. 166 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:13,039 And I when I first found out his name, and I looked it 167 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:18,000 up and I went, uh uh, no, you're a fragment of my 168 00:15:18,159 --> 00:15:22,200 soul. You're a fragment of my personality. You're something, but you are 169 00:15:22,399 --> 00:15:28,600 not that. And so in trance he was say, no, if anything, 170 00:15:28,639 --> 00:15:33,720 you're a fragment of mine, and I'd argued with whatever it was, 171 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,360 and that's there. I don't know that there ever are on earth all the 172 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:48,360 answers. I know that there are some ideas and some answers about focus and 173 00:15:48,679 --> 00:15:58,080 frequency and working on removing any fears. And I don't mean the healthy fear 174 00:15:58,159 --> 00:16:03,200 of don't walk in front of a car are here, but the fears that 175 00:16:03,399 --> 00:16:07,440 come in our minds that have nothing to do with the reality of the moment, 176 00:16:07,879 --> 00:16:15,320 they interfere. So I've always worked on that. If you know what's 177 00:16:15,399 --> 00:16:21,039 getting a way of topping that final goal, right, I owe. That's 178 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:26,559 something that I believe very strongly. Uh, you can change any program inside. 179 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:33,679 I do believe that we are we are able to do our souls are 180 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,840 right, yeah right. The mind is just an instrument. It's part of 181 00:16:37,879 --> 00:16:41,039 the brain, part of the body, part of the nervous system. And 182 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:47,320 emotions are they're not our rulers. We can control them. And I love 183 00:16:47,679 --> 00:16:55,000 learning that as against glass is always oh really and mind is always so. 184 00:16:55,240 --> 00:17:00,519 Recently, during a personal struggle, he was really make it sick over it 185 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:07,039 that I was telliged, you are in control. You can look at it 186 00:17:07,039 --> 00:17:11,640 as your glass is half you have to look at it half full. And 187 00:17:11,839 --> 00:17:18,680 this is a good thing that's going to come to you too. Like you 188 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:23,000 don't get in that headspee, you know, and I don't feel like half 189 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:32,279 the ability to turn it a rep see now hmm. I think that sometimes 190 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:38,240 practical understanding can help. So if he knows that the chemistry of the glass 191 00:17:38,279 --> 00:17:45,799 half full causes a change in the brain and doesn't allow serotonin to be produced 192 00:17:47,079 --> 00:17:51,960 enough, and that's the feel good one. It isn't a matter of well, 193 00:17:52,000 --> 00:18:00,839 I'm just being very realistic. But those of us in meta physics and 194 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,359 physics. You know, we talk about we can create our own reality, 195 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:08,279 et cetera. But a lot of people need practical understanding of what actually happens 196 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:14,799 to the mind body, and doctor Candice Pert wrote a book Many and the 197 00:18:14,839 --> 00:18:21,039 Molecules of the Motions where she proved the chemistry of tears shed and joy are 198 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:26,160 very different chemistry than the tears shed in anger or sorrow. The real difference. 199 00:18:26,319 --> 00:18:30,799 Yes, and so is every level of every anger, from total rage 200 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:37,279 to you know, just saying I'm angry. Huh. There's a different chemistry 201 00:18:37,319 --> 00:18:42,960 for everything we experience, and it happens instant, so we can change the 202 00:18:44,039 --> 00:18:48,440 chemistry. Many years ago, a wonderful woman was going for a PhD in 203 00:18:48,519 --> 00:18:53,799 nursing and she needed three research people, the people who had miracles, and 204 00:18:53,880 --> 00:19:00,160 so she asked, uh, and she saw me for a year. She 205 00:19:00,279 --> 00:19:04,359 would come up for a full day every month. And it was because I 206 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:11,960 got off of being given eight hours to live. And I was so angry 207 00:19:14,039 --> 00:19:18,400 at the three physicians who thought they knew everything. That that's what cleaned out 208 00:19:18,599 --> 00:19:23,319 my body. As I lay dying, My anger flushed at home. So 209 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:29,119 sometimes anger is very effective. I remember looking at them and thinking, oh, 210 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,119 my god, what do you think I am organs hanging in the air. 211 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,359 Never forget that image. They will all argue about different organs and what. 212 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,440 Wow, you have no idea who this person is. You just know 213 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:48,680 nothing. It was wonderful because I signed myself out seventy two hours later and 214 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:53,160 refused permission to treat throughout eleven pharmaceuticals down the toilet when I got home, 215 00:19:53,599 --> 00:19:59,799 and to pour my baby and never looked back and became all organic almost over. 216 00:20:00,319 --> 00:20:07,880 Wow. I was twenty five and you've been doing yep ever since. 217 00:20:07,759 --> 00:20:14,400 It's amazing. No. I think it's important that we know what a strong 218 00:20:14,519 --> 00:20:17,920 will can do. And if, for instance, if your husband is a 219 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:22,200 strong willed in any way, that adds the power to what he thinks. 220 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,279 Mm hmm right, and that's true of all of us. So what do 221 00:20:26,319 --> 00:20:33,759 you want to add power? To want to add power? That's a positive, 222 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:40,319 sure, right, that's a choice. There are patterns, and patterns 223 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:48,039 are not easy to change, but they're worth changing. So it's but nobody 224 00:20:48,039 --> 00:20:52,400 can tell anybody to change. Now you can suject it and try and guide 225 00:20:52,440 --> 00:21:00,960 power you and make that choice right for it to have. Yeah, so 226 00:21:02,039 --> 00:21:14,359 you formed Paris psycho Yale University. Yeah, oh yeah, all about Okay, 227 00:21:14,519 --> 00:21:21,519 So doctor Edith Yorka, this goes back to she came as a client, 228 00:21:21,599 --> 00:21:29,240 stayed as one of my closest friends. She was a psychiatrist who loved 229 00:21:29,279 --> 00:21:33,160 parapsychology. She had traveled the world. Uri Geller and many can look him 230 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,240 up. He's still around probably U R I G E L l A. 231 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,759 R. Was brought to this country by Andrea poo Hark, who lived in 232 00:21:40,839 --> 00:21:45,799 Austining. Edith lived in Croton on Hudson. I lived in Croton on Hudson. 233 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,559 Then I moved to Pigskill. She came as a student of mine and 234 00:21:48,599 --> 00:21:56,079 I went, why do you believe? And so she introduced me to Andrea 235 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,480 for Hark, and he invited me to his class, and then Marcel Vogel 236 00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:03,279 and I played with all of them. And that was in what we call 237 00:22:03,319 --> 00:22:10,440 the Faraday Cage. She had and just a lot of wild experiences at that 238 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:15,519 point. Well, one of the things was Edith was the treasurer or secretary 239 00:22:15,559 --> 00:22:18,880 of the Alumnia Yale University and they asked her to put on an event and 240 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,400 she said, I want a parapsychology event. They said okay, whatever you 241 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,799 want. And so she sat down with me and we designed it. And 242 00:22:26,839 --> 00:22:33,039 then she found out she couldn't invite me, and she said that was awful. 243 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,519 I said, no, go have fun with it. We did our 244 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:41,160 part. No, you do your part. That was it. We're not 245 00:22:41,319 --> 00:22:47,680 able to call no. But her brother was the president of the New York 246 00:22:47,759 --> 00:22:52,319 Dental Association, who was the head of the president Board of governors of it, 247 00:22:52,759 --> 00:22:57,279 and they hosted annual meetings conferences at West Point, and he asked me 248 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:03,720 to be there speaker and run a workshop. I said, you want me 249 00:23:03,759 --> 00:23:06,160 to do one? He said, I want you to run a workshop for 250 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,079 all of us. I said, and what he said? What you do? 251 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,720 He was also a stupid mind, and I went, okay, I 252 00:23:12,759 --> 00:23:17,640 mean know what. I had put cards, business cards, and people can 253 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:22,559 play with this at home. I prepared business cards of I think there was 254 00:23:22,599 --> 00:23:27,440 twenty people at the Board of Governors. Twenty envelopes. Twenty business cards are 255 00:23:27,559 --> 00:23:33,000 people I knew personally that I could answer about. And I made sure the 256 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:37,640 envelopes you could not see through and they could not open them. I seealed 257 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,559 it and I knew what was in each one, and they can look at 258 00:23:41,559 --> 00:23:45,519 it afterwards, but they were to write down everything they felt as they held 259 00:23:45,519 --> 00:23:49,359 it. After I just guided them in a quieting down nothing else, and 260 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:56,599 I said, whatever you experience physically, emotionally, mentally, visual, spiritually, 261 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,359 I don't care what, just write to roll down. They were like 262 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:07,880 a dart wow, right, and I'm going really. One of them, 263 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,920 one of my friends, was a veterinarian and it had a picture of a 264 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:17,680 little dog and he said, I see a kind of a doctor. Well, 265 00:24:17,799 --> 00:24:22,640 I see a dog, and the doctor must be a veterinarian. I 266 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,160 mean that good at what they were doing, and I realized it was because 267 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,400 and they were shocked, and I said, well, the other people I've 268 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:36,720 ever seen very good like that right away unless you practice enough or just have 269 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:44,920 it, are the blind, right, They without everything else and focus. 270 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,039 So the more focus you are in your work, the more focused you can 271 00:24:48,079 --> 00:24:52,319 be, like a laser beam in details. And I think nursing taught me 272 00:24:52,400 --> 00:25:00,079 that. I think a lot of my success in what I do, when 273 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:07,480 I am successful, is because of nursing career and the teachers and the patients 274 00:25:07,519 --> 00:25:14,359 and yeah, well we all led to do things in our lives that help 275 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:21,799 us guaranty so that that was purpose. Yeah, well, how easy is 276 00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:29,000 it to find a missing Okay? So one of my students, I teach 277 00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:30,640 a lot of mentoring. Now I mentor a lot of them, and i 278 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:36,160 have weird sures or workshops and I'm going to finally do an in person retreat. 279 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,960 I'm so happy in the spring. So one of them who read my 280 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,680 book, because I do the missing items in the book when I talk about 281 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:52,079 missing children or whatever, I have exercises after every chapter to help people sharpen 282 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:57,759 it. So the missing items I began early in life. When I first 283 00:25:57,799 --> 00:26:06,079 started teaching psychic work. I judged ten dollars an hour. That was nineteen 284 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:11,079 seventy five, and I had ten dollars with class, and I said, 285 00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:15,119 no, no, don't give me the money. I'll when I have to 286 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,000 step out or little bathroom, I want you to hide the money somewhere, 287 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:25,440 okay, and then I would have to find it. So I set myself 288 00:26:25,519 --> 00:26:29,880 up that many times. So that comes from childhood. My father loved puzzles. 289 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,799 I love puzzles of any kind, metal ones and anything puzzle mysteries. 290 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:44,440 Loved it, and so I created my own about missing items, and so 291 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,519 my family and friends would say I can't find this, and I'd go, 292 00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:53,400 it's in a little bloop house in a drawer on the right. Do you 293 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:59,000 have an upstairs? I didn't even know where they live. Yeah, go 294 00:26:59,079 --> 00:27:03,000 to the right. Is there a green carpet? Yeah? Okay, that 295 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,160 room? Go look. You never really looked well because a lot of people 296 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:15,599 when you're afraid, you don't really see be coming christ yep frantic. So 297 00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:18,799 one of the things I tell people for missing items, chill out, go 298 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,559 do something else. You know how it's the last place you'll ever look. 299 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,559 It's because you were not in your full mind body when you put it down. 300 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,640 Unless it was stolen, I mustn't lit it bat Because I'm good at 301 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:41,640 finding missing item, I do cover myself down and say, you know, 302 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,160 I usually have the suppady to help me hide it, you know, Guardian 303 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,559 Angel health Elocating Basically is it that I stopped when youthing else, and then 304 00:27:49,599 --> 00:27:56,240 I eventually remembering where it is, we're finding it right. You also have 305 00:27:56,519 --> 00:28:03,039 a clear enough internal vision that you can run that movie and see the right, 306 00:28:03,519 --> 00:28:08,519 and that helps a lot. But finding things that are not yours requires 307 00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:15,319 you to jump and make a leap into try it. What's the harm true 308 00:28:15,799 --> 00:28:19,319 right, and nobody knows until you do it whether you can do it. 309 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,160 So one of the women did this as I asked her to. I think 310 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,000 she had either her kids hide things from her or something. And she said, 311 00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:30,960 it was so much fun and it's so wild. But I look at 312 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:37,000 that that part of it as electromagnetic activity. You're a magnet and if you 313 00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:42,960 focus on one thing and don't get cluttered in your mind, that one thing 314 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,079 you are magnet to and you will gravitate towards it, whether it's in your 315 00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:53,960 mind as a vision where it is, or finding it somewhere else. It's 316 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,720 something I've always looked to do about anything. So when I needed an art 317 00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:04,640 book, because I decided I had time ten o'clock at night and I wasn't 318 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:10,240 tired. I'd need to do something and learn something. So art it was. 319 00:29:10,359 --> 00:29:12,640 It was nineteen eighty four, and and so I went to Barnes and 320 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:19,400 Nobles and I put myself in a magnets of thought, just art book, 321 00:29:19,799 --> 00:29:23,799 that's all. It was, balances and books all around. Nope, I 322 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,880 only had a vision for an art So I went to the art place. 323 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:33,160 There were like three aisles, and I went to the second one that felt 324 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,079 better. I walked down halfway, didn't look at the books, put my 325 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,440 hand out and pulled out a book and it was called Drawing with the Right 326 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,440 Side of the Brain by Betty Edwards. And I opened it up and she's 327 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,920 thanking a man named Ronald Myerson, and I'm going, oh my god, 328 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:56,559 this is my book. Then Ronald Myerson was my first husband's boss in the 329 00:29:56,599 --> 00:30:02,799 research faculty at a laboratory in sam On, Puerto Rico or not. And 330 00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:07,160 Myerson I went diving with him and scuba diving, and I went, Okay, 331 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,400 Betty, you got me. Because they did splip brain studies. That's 332 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:17,519 where I learned when I needed help when I was paralyzed. I learned how 333 00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:22,880 to heal myself from my vision m hmm. And it was because I had 334 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,319 seen some things in the splip brain studies that triggered a better understanding of how 335 00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:36,559 focused I have to be. Well, that's amazing. Now what life is 336 00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:45,079 bumps in the road, just how to navigate them? Yeah, it is 337 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:53,440 navigating that. I do believe that. Yeah, And you talk to Adam. 338 00:30:53,720 --> 00:31:00,160 I think a lot of people do I really, you know, and 339 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,240 you love a pet And then They're not a pestimate. They're really companions. 340 00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:08,200 Yeah, just either they may have feathers, they may have fur, they 341 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:14,799 may have scales. There are companions and they have their own method of communication, 342 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,960 and so do we. But we have a translator, and so do 343 00:31:18,079 --> 00:31:23,599 they. So so you can teach a dog from any language, sign language 344 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:30,680 for hands, right, or verbal and most of them will know what you're 345 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:36,039 talking. So they have a translator. We have a translator better than Google. 346 00:31:37,559 --> 00:31:44,200 Yeah, and so because of that we make an assumption. That's how 347 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:51,559 I began making assumption that what I'm hearing is true. And then so you 348 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:56,440 hear them talking to you, and you believe you're just receiving a message and 349 00:31:56,839 --> 00:32:04,680 that it's true. And I understanding that each one's different, like working with 350 00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:14,519 people, I received differently. So there was a fun one. The little 351 00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:23,079 part of me gets a little Brooklyn. I was in the haddocks after a 352 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:29,559 race. The owners of some race horses were my friends, and I always 353 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,759 told them, you know, come on, but I would do anything for 354 00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:37,359 the horses, and they knew it and that would be fine. So one 355 00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:40,480 of them called me and be crystal horse had an issue, and I go 356 00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:44,480 and there were a lot of horses, and there were jockeys there from the 357 00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:47,799 race and whatever else, and one jockey was the top jockey at that time. 358 00:32:49,799 --> 00:32:52,920 Was very annoyed. Don't you think you know everything? I said, 359 00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:57,079 Oh, I'm just telling what I see. He said, well, come 360 00:32:57,119 --> 00:33:00,680 with me. I was finished with the others. I said, okay, 361 00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:06,200 she might go over. And there's this beautiful horse. Oh she was beautiful. 362 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,799 And I just closed my eyes and send love and wait until I feel 363 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:15,319 my soul embracing her soul, and if she's ready, she will share with 364 00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:21,720 me whatever she wants. And suddenly I got images of France, Paris and 365 00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:24,119 France, and I'm thinking. So I turned to him and I said, 366 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:29,440 I can't read her. She speaks French. How did you know she's from 367 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:37,319 France? That's why Brooklyn. I was annoyed at his arrogance, but he 368 00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:40,799 turned out to be a good friend. After that. She said, funny. 369 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,279 He asked me about that. He said, tell me how you got 370 00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:50,920 that. I said, it's so little involved. But she's very lonely and 371 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,559 she's sad. Paul, she needs a friend, and a goat would do 372 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,079 her well. He said, okay, I don't guess we're a goat and 373 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,720 go and is will. Yeah. They love goats really, Oh my god. 374 00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:06,480 They love goats and dogs and cats. They love all of them, 375 00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:15,199 lolling. He lived in a stall on a pleasure farm. They want friends. 376 00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:19,760 They don't all want horse friends. And they know some people don't like 377 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:27,400 people or some horses horse Wow, you do. And some of them do 378 00:34:27,519 --> 00:34:31,000 better with a different species as a friend. And some of them are not 379 00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:34,960 allowed in racing. I don't know if they are even allowed to be near 380 00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:38,559 each other. I have no clue because I don't know anything about it, 381 00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:44,719 nor do I care too. But I went out for lunch with the jockey 382 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:49,199 and told him everything about how I got that and what I felt. He 383 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,920 was fascinated and he was very sweet. Turned out he left his ego behind. 384 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:58,679 He was curious and that was wonderful. I was happy to see that 385 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:05,639 in him because he was such a good jockey and he got her go I 386 00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:09,760 guess I didn't hang out and find out. Well, he said he was 387 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,039 going to, so I kind of hope he did. Yeah, well, 388 00:35:13,079 --> 00:35:19,960 a lot of them did. The owners understood the importance of that, of 389 00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:24,559 making them comfortable, you know, even though they it's a very different world 390 00:35:24,639 --> 00:35:29,320 than the world I live in about animals. You know, we having the 391 00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:34,719 life outside our door. And I love my chipmunk who sits on my lap. 392 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:39,920 And after he's been gone a year or so, who's old? Then 393 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,239 the next one. There's always some chipmunk who just wants to be your best 394 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,960 friend. The squirrels who want to be your best friend, sit on your 395 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,880 shoulder, and where's my next anything? Come on, well, I haven't 396 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:57,880 gotten into because my dog wis the way, but the chip know that. 397 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:09,480 I that's funny. Yeah, somebody you can't explain to the companion animal that. 398 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,000 Look, why don't you get along with every species? I don't feel 399 00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:20,719 like it. I had built to chase things. Yeah, I had four 400 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,800 cats. One night we rescued a mourning dove baby and they loved her. 401 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:29,519 She slept on one of them. They protected her outside. It was hysterical. 402 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,960 Yeah, it was really wild to you. See how true it is. 403 00:36:34,039 --> 00:36:38,039 You see all those stories now, you know, on social media and 404 00:36:38,119 --> 00:36:45,039 wherever it is where they all help each other. They rescue, they rescue 405 00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:46,840 humans, they do all kinds of things. Well, sure they've been doing 406 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:52,679 that forever. They don't go to war with us. Yeah, that is 407 00:36:52,760 --> 00:37:00,679 the humans wlind spoiler yep, that hurt the then well territorial and animals can 408 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:06,719 be territorial. But they can also be best friends with other things and recognize 409 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:12,320 when somebody's hurt or something is hurt. I think that their empathy is strong 410 00:37:12,559 --> 00:37:16,559 in them and their compassion is strong. But if you had two blue jays 411 00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:22,400 going up the Saint Peanut, watch out very terrible. Right. But on 412 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,360 the other hand, they'll all tell each other, Hey, the food's on 413 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,400 the floor there, just I'm getting the first one will get out of my 414 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:34,119 way, and I watch what they do because they all I can call them, 415 00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:38,239 and they suddenly the tree is filled with blue jays, and I tell 416 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,480 them, the one on the lower branch, this is for him, so 417 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,440 or her, whoever you may be. And so I don't know if it's 418 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:51,760 all true, because I'm not proving it out. But if you do it 419 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:57,639 often enough, you've come familiar with getting some form of feedback that indicates there's 420 00:37:57,679 --> 00:38:04,519 a connection. Okay, I'll definitely want to think out apple for sure. 421 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,360 Yeah, I think it's really important to start off with a bit of magic, 422 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,760 of assumption that all things are possible. Let's go for the best and 423 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,360 let's see what we get, and we stay with it and we practice. 424 00:38:20,639 --> 00:38:29,280 So sometimes it happens easily and sometimes it takes a while. But I believe 425 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:34,639 we all have multiple gifts of soul and spirit, and until we apply them, 426 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:43,639 we don't know. This some importance trusting and all your feelings and trusting 427 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:51,360 your what your first repression? Do you believe that spirit guide giving us answer? 428 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:59,280 Is that coming from? So? Actually, I think it's different for 429 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:04,599 everybody. I don't think there's one answer. I was on a retreat because 430 00:39:04,639 --> 00:39:07,440 I was a part of a core faculty for a place called Interwee that used 431 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:16,239 to be in in Mars County Summit in New Jersey, and we were on 432 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:22,599 a retreat and we all was a Sufi master, a goddess worshiper. He 433 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,760 Robert Morris was the founder. He had run the church and then stepped out 434 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:35,920 to do this Interweave. And they were all talking about how they got their 435 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,519 information, the spiritual purpose their information as it came through, and each one 436 00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:45,159 had a place they went to in there, or being that they spoke with 437 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:51,119 or whatever. And I said, no, I don't. I was shown 438 00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:53,800 the first three years I did my work by the man who was with me 439 00:39:55,039 --> 00:40:00,639 that you go direct, and so Robert I'll never forget he said to me, 440 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,320 you didn't need to go to anybody, You're going direct, new source. 441 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,880 And I think, well, the soul takes the source direct anyhow, 442 00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:14,360 and if you're getting anything from anywhere else, that's fine too. I mean, 443 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:20,079 there's no one way, so I don't think there's one answer. I'm 444 00:40:20,119 --> 00:40:25,920 really against the idea that there's only one answer on anything. I've heard people 445 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:32,559 say my near death experience taught me that this is what happens for everybody, 446 00:40:34,119 --> 00:40:37,000 And I'm thinking, no, I had a near death experience. Mine was 447 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:43,920 different than yours, So is that one? What's that about? How I 448 00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:51,840 chose to do a form of partly a little memoir on the cases I worked 449 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:58,360 early on giving the description detectives speak in it. And the reason I say 450 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,119 memoir is because I want people to the steps we took and the steps I 451 00:41:02,199 --> 00:41:08,000 took and how it impacted. Because we get triggers, you know, when 452 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,159 we see things that remind us of other things we're triggering, and how we 453 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,679 address them. And then I like helping people learn that you can do anything, 454 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:21,119 just give it a shot, and so after every chapter, I've got 455 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:27,880 exercises for everybody for their soul and like missing items, but all kinds based 456 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,480 on the stories. And so there are stories that are true that happened, 457 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,719 and some of the people. If you want to check out my YouTube channel 458 00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:42,119 at soul Talk with Me, you just punch in my name and it'll come 459 00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:46,559 up. And George Duker is one of the detectives I work with on one 460 00:41:46,559 --> 00:41:53,079 of the cases in the story of a young girl murdered in Long Valley, 461 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:59,239 and Bill Hughes is the one I worked with a case that many people in 462 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:05,800 New Jersey state remember the national headlines. Unfortunately it was serial murderer James Kadavitch, 463 00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:09,239 and that's in the book. And all of them are still my friends. 464 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,920 So that's mine. We're very close. I just did the baby blessing 465 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:22,199 last year for Bill Hus's granddaughter, and so, yeah, George and I 466 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:28,320 talk a lot. All the people I worked with back then were still very 467 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,119 close, and some of the victims' families I'm still very close with. Oh 468 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:37,559 that's good. Yeah, oh God. Brooks wrote one of the best songs 469 00:42:37,559 --> 00:42:43,039 on it, to me standing in the fire, don't stand outside of it. 470 00:42:43,159 --> 00:42:49,000 Get right inside. There's nothing. There's no reality until you are in 471 00:42:49,199 --> 00:42:52,920 the present. So whatever it is, it is. And so that book 472 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:58,719 came about because I've attempted to write a few times on it and I thought, 473 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,039 oh god, I don't know how to write it all it was awful 474 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:06,840 and I put them mainly for clients and they were not well written, but 475 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,400 they told the stories. So this one was edited, etceter better. And 476 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:15,000 then all Nature Speaks. It has a few crime cases in it with animals 477 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:22,079 and also several missing animals. You know, I show the difference between why 478 00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:27,159 one is missing and another is missing, their different reasons, which is fascinating 479 00:43:27,199 --> 00:43:32,199 to me. And then of course speaking with our own beloved companions, and 480 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:37,039 I think it's really important. And one of them, the horse. As 481 00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:42,280 I talked, I had never met a horse before a woman named Glinda Heppern 482 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:49,559 saw me in a newspaper article about psychic communicates with animals. As soon as 483 00:43:49,559 --> 00:43:53,000 I moved into Jersey, somebody wrote it and she called and I had never 484 00:43:53,039 --> 00:43:58,480 been near a horse. And that was the first horse I ever worked with. 485 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:05,239 A mayor and he's in my book, And what that do? The 486 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:17,280 animals are my teachers because they show us a different culture of belonging. Uh 487 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:25,239 and we know that we know most of them are will do anything and stay 488 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:30,599 loving no matter what. They're in pain. Sometimes they're loving, and so 489 00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:37,440 they can be the greatest teachers I've ever met. I believe that now me 490 00:44:37,559 --> 00:44:42,400 too. Well. You love for private sessions, you do mentor as well? 491 00:44:43,199 --> 00:44:46,920 Right. I do mentoring sessions a lot, and that means that the 492 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:53,119 clients have a little weake sometimes because I don't do many per week, I 493 00:44:53,159 --> 00:44:59,639 find I have a lot of different projects. I also am a certified clinical 494 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:04,159 Room of therapy therapist that I teach, and I wrote a health freedom church, 495 00:45:04,199 --> 00:45:10,239 and I learn ordination programs. When people be ministers, you're a multitasker. 496 00:45:12,159 --> 00:45:15,960 I love all of it. It create semplification programs and I love it. 497 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:22,079 It's all fun. It's all for finding out, diving deep within one 498 00:45:22,199 --> 00:45:30,199 soul and finding what's there, you know, and creativity. I think it's 499 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:35,039 really important. And I tell everybody listening, if you're probably much younger than 500 00:45:35,079 --> 00:45:40,440 Annie, I'll turn eighty in a few months. Oh my goodness, Oh 501 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:49,360 would it never gat? I look, I don't feel it, but I 502 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:58,000 know it, and I think that it's really important to always learn. I 503 00:45:58,039 --> 00:46:01,199 don't care what it is, just learn. I learned that one back in 504 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:07,719 the seventies from a great psychic Discoveries Behind the Iron Curtain. The authors when 505 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:15,079 Schroeder and shiloh' strander became friends me and all the research showed in soup and 506 00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:21,079 binormal music we now have comes from the research in Bulgaria that they brought back, 507 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:27,039 and all of it says, you want longevity, do you want clarity? 508 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,559 Keep keep the brain alive? And how you do that? So I 509 00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:38,480 also take supplements to affect microcirculation blood for the brain to improve. I use 510 00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:45,119 essential oils that I know specifically that keep my brain organized. I love it, 511 00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:49,920 and every room is diffused with them. So I keep everything clean, 512 00:46:50,039 --> 00:46:54,480 the air is purified and blah blah blah blah. So everything is about do 513 00:46:54,599 --> 00:47:00,119 I want to be somebody who can't remember things and can't think? So that's 514 00:47:00,159 --> 00:47:05,039 great. I think it's more important than being psycho. I think it is 515 00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:08,960 whatever gifts you have inside need to come out. And sometimes if we get 516 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:14,320 to live wrong, if we're blessed with another day, we have to make 517 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:21,400 it all count for us and then for the world. That includes all the 518 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,400 loved ones. Of course, thank you so much for joining me today, 519 00:47:24,599 --> 00:47:30,239 Ghostly listeners, You can sign up or level up on my author Eleanor Wagner 520 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:37,199 Patreon program that's p A t R e O N, where you will find 521 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:43,440 special bonus opportunities only available to its patrons, such as one on ones with 522 00:47:43,559 --> 00:47:50,280 me and co hosting opportunities on episodes of Eleanor Wagner's Strange and Scary World podcast. 523 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,800 Thank you, paranormal enthusiasts for tuning in today. I hope you'll come 524 00:47:54,840 --> 00:48:00,639 back again. Remember to tap into your own gifts. Everyone has them, 525 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:30,639 and in the meantime, make sure you're creeping it real and ad a video mm hmm