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Streaming live. I mean, iHeartRadio. This is I on the Ball with

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Steve Roba and Jay Gonzalez on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. Heay, welcome back

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to Eye on the Ball hero Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve. He's

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Jake who got Kevin for breaking news
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Sports fourteen to fifty. Yup,
nailed at that time, first time for

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everything. I have a couple bits
of news for Okay, for you guys

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today, We're gonna start with some
wildcat centric stuff. Zulus to Bellis was

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recently waived by the Sixers. Want
Want, Want, but he has found

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work back in Lithuania. He's going
back to play for his hometown team in

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Vilnius. He's actually going to be
loaned out to a different club, less

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forwards, so you can play more. And that's kind of what we predicted

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all along for Zulis, Wasn't it. Wasn't it, Steve? I mean,

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I think we just always thought he'll
he'll go back over he used to

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play, sure, sure, a
guy who deserves better, but he is

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what he is. He's a tweener, right, He is not big enough

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to be a big guy. Not
aggressive enough to be a power forward.

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He's got skills and so yeah,
yeah, he lacked one thing. That

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three point shot. Yeah, if
he could shoot that, but he's not

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gonna do it here right. Well, it used to be the three,

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the three, The three spot was
the one. You know, it was

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a tall guy who could three's.
Now the four and the five are all

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hitting threes. And if you don't
have it, you know, you're missing

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a skill that they need. Again, back getting back to what what Brian

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Jefferies and and and Ryan uh Hansome
we're talking about last night, was that

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what they are good? What you
know? Brian asked Ryan, you know,

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do you see a hole in what
Arizona's doing and what they've got?

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And he said, actually do and
that being that the way is zuliz ran

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the court and how many easy baskets
they got because he ran the sport.

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Who you know, is is Keisha
Johnson going to be able to be that

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guy? Is Pali Larston gonna have
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they did get How many times did
they throw a bomb from under one basket

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to the other end he caught it
and scored. Well, what do you

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think of when you think of Well, you guys might have a different answer.

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But when I think of Zillis Tabelli's
I think of a breakaway to him

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right, dunk right, which how
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think that that Johnson is capable of
that, But he's not the same basketball

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player. It's a different basketball player. And and Pella, I was just

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gonna ask you about a half hour
ago. He's got to be the guy

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we all expected him to be.
He hasn't been that guy, right,

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and he's capable of being that guy. He's got to be more than the

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defensive stopper. He's got to he's
got to add some offense. He's got

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to hit some threes, and that's
what we thought, yeah, coming from

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Utah. Right, he's got to
generate some offense. And he has it

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times again, another one of those
guys that he has at times, but

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then times that he's nowhere to be
found. Right, we can't disappear,

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and this is this year is too
important for for them not to do well,

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especially coming off last year. No, that's a tough one to come

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back and not perform at right,
Right, even the Sweet sixteen is probably

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not going to be enough. No, given given what happened last year,

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because you gotta forget what happened last
year. And I'm not talking about the

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team, I'm talking about the fans. No, no, I certainly will

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not. Where were you? I
believe I was in my bedroom playing,

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not crying. I think, I
think angrily, steely, looking at the

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screen, just like thinking about I
can't believe this. Oh no, I

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love Tommy Lloyd. I I cannot
wait to keep watching Tommy Lloyd. But

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I was definitely frustrated that day.
But in other news, the Pima Community

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College Soccer team men's men's soccer team
has just been seated fifth for the n

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c n j c A A Division
two National Tournament. Yeah, which were

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November twelfth through eighteenth at the keynot
North Sports com. Yeah, they got

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beat a couple of weeks ago in
their tournament. They were number one,

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could be by the number four.
And then they're thinking, oh no,

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they may not be invited to their
own tournament, to their own host tournament,

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so it should be fun because they're
capable. They just got to find

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a way to win. They wanted
to a couple of times. Think you

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know, if you take you're good
enough, great, and maybe you are

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but get yourself in the tournament and
see what happened. Yeah, right,

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I thought that. You know,
if you can't get in the tournament,

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you can't win it. So now
they're in, so presumably they can win

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it. Whether they do or not, it's another story. But they can't.

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Yeah, and let me write that
down. He's like the philosopher to

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do. Yeah. I was just
I was thinking this. I was like,

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wow, that pretty wise. That
blind squirrel baby Blink's my friend's friend.

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A blind hog will find truffle.
Ye. The d Backs have extended

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Tory Lavolo through twenty twenty six after
after the World Series runs a three year

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okay, and they already had extended
him. Look, I mean, and

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they were ready to fire him.
And now that you know, got into

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the World Series. And again the
contrast, right, Dodgers get to the

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playoffs, lose where they lost,
disappointing season, you know, Diamondbacks get

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to the World Series, don't win
it. Not a disappointing season. So

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I think they're very happy this.
So last night there was a shocker,

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a couple of shockers in college basketball, but Michigan State and Tom Izzo took

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a loss to his nephew Matt Bucklin
and James Madison University the Sun Belt program.

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Am you man. We've just thought
this for a while and I thought

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he's a pretty good coach. I'm
sure he is. He's a Hall of

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Fame coaching. But since we talked
about this and during the COVID time when

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he was seeing yelling at one of
his best players up the hallway and then

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they just gave up on him and
losing to U C l A, I've

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lost a little for him. I
have two you know. It's kind of

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like that whole Bobby Knight kind of
thing. Yeah, right, you know,

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you see you kind of get behind
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behind the and the you go,
wait a minute, he's not the lovable

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old yeah, you know, yeah, raw rock coach that you thought he

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was in the times that we live. He might be a little too tough.

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Yeah, And yeah, he's been
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have change. Speaking of being around
a really long time, do you guys

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want to guess the last time Michigan
State lost a home game in the month

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of November twenty five, two thousand
and five, it's actually David Robinson really

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led Navy to a ninety one ninety
overtime when in nineteen eighty six, woh

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wow. Well, but Izzo did
say, let the controversy begin in regard

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to what you start freshman over his
juniors and seniors, because he said he

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has no idea why a third and
fourth year players are playing the way they

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did. Yeah, last night,
So I thought that was interesting. And

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then in NFL news, well you
missed, you missed the LSU one.

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Oh, that's true. LSULS defending
champ, ranked number one in the country

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and Colorado beat him. Yeah,
you're all of your favorite teams, uh,

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the l s U. So yeah, Well I've had my own experience

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with Kim Maulkey, so you did
they if she came here with Baylor,

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she was just you don't get along
with anybody. I get along with everybody.

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So what happened? She was just
mean to rude to n C double

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A people, to those of us
work in the tournament. What did she

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do? She was just mean and
rude, and you know, she just

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didn't She just didn't talk to you
nicely. Maybe not about had a bad

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day, maybe they were winning,
they won. Just look you know that

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that that first and second round.
What was this. Oh god, I

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think John Bamasini was still here.
You were talking long yeah, and and

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and I think they Arizona. The
Arizona bid on the n C Double A

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got it and then they didn't make
the tournament. So they were they had

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a team that they thought. I
think it was the year that the player

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died. Oh yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah yeah yeah. So they

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don't get so. So you know, a SU comes down here, they

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send Baylor over here. The a
s U coach, Charlie Turner throw nicest

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person ever, really nice. You
know, she knew she was an enemy

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territory. She still was very nice
to everybody, and we were nice to

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her. And Kim Wilke was just
a rude person did this. He's a

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very person So and look, I
mean you've seen some of her antics on

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the sideline, so shouldn't sh intense
persons. She was rude here speaking of

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uh, I don't even know where
I'm seging to. But the Chiefs and

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Dolphins game last last Sunday from Germany
was the highest rated international game for the

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NFL with nine point six million viewers, viewership of sixty six percent from last

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year's Germany game. Thought was interesting. We should be. Yeah, I

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mean it's been the Jags and the
Panthers every time. Yeah, I'm sleeping

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through that one. I mean I
got up and I watched that. Yeah,

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not exactly a mystery to watch.
Yeah sure, yeah, no,

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yeah, I mean it's been the
Jags have played in that thing, like

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they played twice a year. So
when you got the Jags on one side,

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you're not going to get you know, the viewers are gonna get one

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of the Dolphins. And I was
surprised when I saw that that game was

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in Germany. Yeah, I mean, good for the German crowds for the

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game over there, but also if
you're waking up at seven thirty over here

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to watch what could have been the
best game. You know. What strikes

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me is looking at the fans and
how many of them we're winning the gear

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and all that stuff. I'm like, okay, are you are you from

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Germany or are you from here?
And my wife said, those can't all

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be like us? People who are
I think? I think what happened?

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They stuff? Yeah, I think
a lot of European fans from like close

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by countries might travel in because when
else are you going to see an NFL

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game? Right, you live over
there. So but but all the gear

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that they wear, and and you
know, and just and it's funny too

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because over there in those games you
see you know, Chiefs fan, Chiefs

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fan, Dolphins fan, Dolphins fan
Chiefs and all of these together, they're

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not you know, they're not grouped, not exactly raiders charges exactly. They're

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fighting each other fist But it was
funny because there was that towards the end

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of the game they put it.
They had a close up of a Dolphins

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fan who was obviously very unhappy,
but wasn't like you just had an unhappy

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look. And then there's some Chiefs
fans like right next to them, just

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you know, going crazy, And
I thought, you know, you know,

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in the US, that's a fist
fight right there. Yeah. Uh.

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The Cardinals today added Kyler Murray to
the fifty three man roster. He

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is their quarterback one on their depth
chart. Officially that that's Steve's guy.

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Steves he's been waiting for him to
get back in the line up. Me

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and Nico you already warned me.
Didno take my bet? I don't know.

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Didn't they win or something like that. I can't remember. I don't

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remember he was he he was busy, you know, looking for some lettuce

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or something. Yeah, but well, we'll see. You know. My

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theory is that they're they're going to
play him to see if they're going to

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keep him or go get a quarter
another new quarterback. Yeah, they got

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to figure that out. It's just
a weird year for the Cardinals. Yeah,

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I think, I mean, because
yeah, it's just been a strange

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year. And we'll see what Kyler
can do when he does come back.

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Speaking of quarterbacks coming back, Carson
Wentz finds himself in the Rams organization today.

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Uh, he's gonna be backing up
Matthew Stafford, who is currently injured.

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Who well, who played quarterback for
them last week? Because it wasn't

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Stafford, It was not Stafford,
it was That's a good question, Brian

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ripien Is. I mean, I
can't imagine that wins is gonna come right

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in and start unless he's got that
Josh Dobbs Ashton. Yeah. I Aaron

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Rodgers hinted that he'll be back in
a couple of weeks. We don't know

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how somebody now, somebody's doubts,
so I think it. I don't know

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if it was Mac it wouldn't have
been McAfee because their friend somebody else was

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saying doubting that he really did a
terror's achilles and there's no way he could

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he could be back from a torn
achilles. Well that doctor, that doctor

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has been doing this for a couple
of guys. That seems he has like

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the new the new science, the
way to kill these injury. Cam akers

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just retore his though. Yeah,
this past weekend, I believe, But

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I mean it used to be.
You know, even if it was just

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a torn moniscus, you got knee
surgery, you were done for the year.

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You're back in a couple of weeks. Well, look at Steve Curves

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forty years ago, whatever it was. He was dead in the waters and

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they away. Yep. Science is
a wonderful thing. Life finds away it

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does. So maybe I'll be able
to walk straight one of these days.

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And then too, I got a
Cortison shot on my knee. It's just

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gonna say, you have your idea
issues. Have you ever seen that scene

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in North see North Aulas forty the
scene where Nick Nolton gets the gets the

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shot. That was me this morning
back in the day. That was take

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the needle in and then he's moving
it around and the needles like, I

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don't know, six inches eight inches
long, dude, I did that last

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week and we want to talk about
it. Burn all right. Mark Davis

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Bryant is back working out for the
Cowboys and the Titans, looking to get

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back in the league after his couple
of years off. He hasn't played since

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twenty eighteen due to suspension. Oh
okay, that's what he was on the

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field. He looked good. It's
just been a while, so we'll see

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if he can find his way back
into the league. And that is all

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for breaking news for it. Okay, I gotta bring this up because it's

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everybody's talking about it. We've been
talking about it. According to Nicole Auerbach

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from the Athletic Michigan has sent documents
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A that it believes shows that Purdue, Ohio State, and Rutgers were sharing

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Michigan signals amongst their staff and that
that Purdue and Ohio State did it before

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last year's Big Ten chance. Okay, that's cool because it happens, right,

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but it's the process, not this
right process that yeah, but they're

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saying, okay, well they gave
them to them. Well, okay,

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the question is how did they get
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did they did they get them by
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course of a game you were playing
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that, I think I think it
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and purduing Rutgers shared the signals before
the ohiose no, because they didn't play

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what I see in the championship game. Did they play in the championship game

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last year in the Big Tension?
Oh, I don't know, because Michigan

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stayed in the same division so they
can't play. So that Ohio State and

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Purdue shared Michigan signals with whoever was
Michigan's opponent in the Big Ten championship.

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And they're saying, you did it
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what the little kids all right.
That's it, man, Let's take a

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on the defense and how it's doing
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Ye Hi, Welcome back to Ivenball here

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on Fox Sports Working fifteen. I'm
Steve, He's Jay the on the phone.

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We having the Huntley former. You
have a football player one of our

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big sponsors, Lamont. How are
you. I'm good. I'm good that

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we're doing well for you know,
for alumni here. Yeah, no,

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you must be. Let me ask
you. Has your attitude is not the

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right word you're viewing pleasure of this
football team changed since we last spoke to

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you, because there was still some
kind of doubts and hopes and all that

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and the other the doing well,
yeah, I mean it really has,

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man, and I think a lot
of a lot has to do with the

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kids confidence level as far as them
really believing that they can compete with anybody

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that they lined up against at this
point in time, you know, and

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you know, going into the beginning
of the season, I think we were

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just the old wildcatt of the past
that you know, we were just going

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up the line again, you know, our opponent and whatever happens happens.

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But now, I mean big over
the mindset that they're going to win the

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game, and you can see the
levels of confidence and that they show soon

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as they lined up and coming out
of that tunnel. Well, that's what

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we were talking about a little earlier
in the month, because you know,

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being the old Arizona guy that I
am and have seen all the few highs

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and the lots of lows that we've
had over the years. That you know,

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Arizona's always kind of like you win
games like they've won, and it's

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kind of like something had to happen, right, they got lucky. They

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made a couple of plays these last
three games in particular, and even the

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two games before that. I mean, Arizona was the best team on the

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field in the last three games.
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against USC and just didn't win the
game because they didn't have a Caleb Williams

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who could make a play on a
two point conversion like that. But Arizona

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those games weren't flukes, is what
I'm saying. And it's specifically the UCLA

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game that was just an ass kicking, you know what, Jay, I

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believe it all started at see right
when they when they when they left that

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game, they really realized that they
they competed from you know, from bell

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to bell against sc and the best
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and they held these guys, you
know to basically you know, three

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three overtimes, right, and they
should have won that game, right,

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And I really believed, particularly the
defense, the defense really gained their confidence

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in regards to saying that they can
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Going from this that point forward and
the next week they went out there

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and basically showed their true self and
it's true grit and and it hasn't it

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hasn't stopped from that point on.
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the turning point as far as mentally, these kids realizing that they are in

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this thing and they compete with anybody. You know, a little earlier today,

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I compared that, and again having
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here too for that one. I
compared it to that Miami game in nineteen

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ninety two. It was a loss, but it was a game where they

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came out of that saying we're good, We're really good, and then they

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went on this run. Of course, that season didn't end too great,

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but still they had that run and
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Compared to it's kind of a similar
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loss and you try and make the
most out of it, exactly, and

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and I agree with you wholeheartedly,
and and you know, and I think

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those kids they did a complete reevaluation
of themselves in regards to knowing the type

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of player they were, each person
were when they was out there competing and

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playing against USC and and just going
to SC and playing in that stadium like

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that. I mean, you kind
of defeated anyway, because you got all

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those ghosts and those you know,
USC guards coming down on you, and

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that ugly band and all these different
things happening. But I really think those

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kids really garnered and gained so much
confidence in playing that game. And and

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I see again, I see it
every from this week, this from that

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week forward. I have seen it
in their face. I've seen it in

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their eyes. I see the way
they come out, and I see the

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way they approach the game. Now, yeah, no question. Last week

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I asked Jed exactly that when one
when did he notice the culture change,

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whether it's this year, last year, or whenever. And then I asked

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them about the confidence because that's what
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the Coleman caught my eye, which
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And then over the weekend, I'm
thinking this defense continues to do what

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you said, like you said,
but there are a bunch of dog piranhas.

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They're just they're just dogs. And
I like that. And they are

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I mean, they are a bunch
of undersized players that somebody else didn't want

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basically, and you know, it
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is doing some good things as far
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on weekend and week out. That
does cause some havoc as far as in

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their game plan. I mean,
how many times you go up against you

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see and your quarterback lines up and
he's see number thirteen sitting the and this

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should be a linebacker, you know, and and I mean just just placing

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Orb in that position. And because
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and I mean the kid, the
kid wasn't there particularly to be a linebacker.

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He knew there, particularly because he
knew their offense, and he was

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able to probably call some things out
to the rest of the defense before it

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even happened, because he saw situations
that took place just by walking up to

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the line of scrimmage. And now
all of a sudden, you're a quarterback,

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You're like, where did this kid
come from? We didn't plan for

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him. Yeah, those things happened
like that. How much how much of

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what we're seeing, particularly defense?
And I know you got to be kind

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of we were talking about the giddy
meet, right, how giddy are we

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as air zonal fense? But you
know, how how cool is it for

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you to see what they're doing defensively? And then is it how much a

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scheme? How much is they've just
got better guys? Uh? You know

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where do you attribute some of this
to? You know, honestly, I

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think it's the scheming. It's mostly
scheming in regards to what he's putting in

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front of the offense weekend and week
out because they haven't seen a lot of

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this stuff. Now they got to
readjust their particular game plan in order to

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you know, you know, stay
on the same sheet of music with with

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with our defense that's out there.
I mean, you've got seven defensive backs.

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In some cases these kids are not
really defensive back. They play a

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linebackers the size of defensive backs.
But you got seven defensive backs on the

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field. You got three offensive linemen
and one linebacker's that's in a game situation,

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and you got three defensive linement that's
actually bringing pressure to the quarterback because

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the fact the quarterback he's going back
in his step in his progression, and

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he looks around, he's through a
damn he's double team. He's double team.

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Now you're counting three, two,
five seconds. And then he's trying

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to escape and then he's like,
what, digg, I'm being shadowed by

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Manu? What I'm going to do? You know by that time that there's

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another defenders in his face. And
I think I think that scheme itself has

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open up and slow down the mindset
and and the and the progression, and

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the quartersback head is trying to how
to deliver thee the ball down the field

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now all now the other side of
it is running the ball against that scheme.

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And that's what guys has started to
do. And then he he might

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bring in another defensive lineman at that
time and try to afset that. So

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let me see if you can think
convinsue of my argument here. So after

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after, I mean, your arguments
don't mean nothing. You go ahead.

407
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I'm but I'm becoming more of a
positive guy. Down Jesus, don Jesus

408
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give me a second here. Uh
So, so Stafford, okay, So

409
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Delora, get gets hurt, goes
out, Fafida comes in and I would

410
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have sworn and I still sort of
this day. And Jay went back to

411
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the tape and I don't know if
he believes me now, but the team

412
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played harder for him for whatever reason. I don't mean, I can't I

413
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hear, I don't. I think. I mean the players gonna play for

414
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whoever's back there, and they plan
for themselves too, bro, the playing

415
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for themselves. They're not gonna play
harder because there a different quarterbacks than I

416
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can't buy it. You can convince
me of that. Well, okay,

417
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give another somebody else on the other
call, hold on, hold on,

418
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hold up, And I'm not drinking
that that uh okay at all? Can

419
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.319
I finish? So they're played harder
for him, I believe that. So

420
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:30.880
what now you can tell that they're
playing very well for him? Well,

421
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they're gonna play very well and hard
for whoever's back there. I mean,

422
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that's that's that's what their jobs are, their jobs that the performing performed for

423
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whoever's behind them. Now, keep
in mind, I think the way uh

424
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for Fia is playing is different than
the way Jalen played. By all means,

425
00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:52.720
I think for fil himself is managing
the game much more properly than the

426
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way Jalen managed the game because they
two different quarterbacks and style of quarterbacks,

427
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and that cat in this case,
it doesn't mind sitting in there waiting for

428
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the opportunity to open up where he
can advance the ball down the field.

429
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:10.400
And you notice his advancement of the
ball down the fields only like fifteen maybe

430
00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:14.920
twenty yards at the most, whereas
Jalen can run around all day long and

431
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.839
just just chump the ball down the
field and let you know, one of

432
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:22.640
those athletic receivers just run on it
or jump up to the sky and pull

433
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:25.720
it down. I mean, it's
just two style of a quarterback. Now

434
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:30.119
if you watch for fear, he
can't scramble like Jalen. He can't scramble

435
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:33.240
at all. You know, he
got pulled down a couple of times.

436
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:37.480
Well if number if number seven was
in there, he would have scrambled got

437
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out of out of that that that
you know, opportunity of being a sack.

438
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But he might have threw interception or
he might have threw a touchdown.

439
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:48.160
You know, because you get with
you with that with that guy, Well,

440
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:51.400
if you'd gone out of a couple
of crazy he did, and he

441
00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:52.720
did and he did what I did. I think what I said at that

442
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:56.119
time, it was different. It
looked different now. I don't know that

443
00:29:56.160 --> 00:30:00.640
you could say they were playing harder, but it look different when when Noel

444
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:04.519
came in there, because as Leamon
said, he managed the whole thing different

445
00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:07.799
right. He made the quick throws. He took what was there instead of

446
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:12.640
trying to take something right. He's
much more patient with the game than what

447
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:17.359
what Jalen has been. He's a
more patient kid. He's a more patient

448
00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:22.000
quarterback. I mean he'll sit and
he'll wait until there is an opportunity that

449
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.880
comes in arise. And if that
opportunity in now he knows what to do

450
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:29.720
next is either get rid of the
ball or try to advance down the field

451
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:33.000
for one or two yards. He
did get that big, that big scramble

452
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:36.920
that won play last game. You
know, he got out of a situation

453
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:40.039
where he could have been sacked.
But he I think he gained like fifteen

454
00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:45.359
plus yards on that on one particular
play, but Jalen probably wouldn't. He

455
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:49.039
probably would have scored, who knows, because he's that type of athletic quarterback.

456
00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:52.440
But you must like the situation.
Now, Oh I love it.

457
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.279
Oh, I love it. I
mean, I mean I love every bit

458
00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:00.119
of again, the control factor over
this kid and leaders factor. I mean,

459
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:04.480
this kid he walks around with it
in his eyes, and and those

460
00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:08.319
and those players see it, you
know, and they see what he's doing.

461
00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:12.519
Now, as far as that end
of it, I think they know

462
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:15.759
that they don't want to disappoint who's
back there at this point in time,

463
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:21.519
So maybe they do elevate their play
and explose themselves and play a little harder

464
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:25.240
off that aspect of it, because
this kid's given everything that he has for

465
00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:27.519
them and they see that. And
now I can honestly say, as a

466
00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:32.400
player to a player, if I'm
out there playing my butt off, okay,

467
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:34.079
I expect the rest of the players
play their butt off, you know

468
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:37.519
what I mean? Or if if, if, if, if, hopefully

469
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.680
I'm playing you know, to my
level play, on extending my level play.

470
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:47.039
I think that some of these other
players may see that and and expect

471
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:56.799
them to do the same things.
Thank you very much. How cool is

472
00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:00.000
it for you as somebody who was
you know, one of the great defense

473
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:02.039
the players at Arizona Year, I
won't say how many hundreds of years ago,

474
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:07.799
but a long time ago. But
to see this defense though, start

475
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:12.240
to become this and kind of bring
back some of that, I don't know,

476
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:15.960
some of that pride that that the
defense is sort of always had.

477
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:19.839
I mean, look, if you
if you've been here around long enough and

478
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.240
you think of Arizona football, you're
always thinking about what great defense is it

479
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:25.119
always had and it seems like it
was a long time ago that we had

480
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:29.319
the last time Arizona's a good defensive
lead. Now you got this defense.

481
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:30.839
I mean, how cool is that
for you? With somebody who played that

482
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:35.640
as well? Well, I mean, it's it's just awesome because the fact

483
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:38.519
that you know, I know,
as far as the effort, the work

484
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:44.640
that it takes to be a great
defense, and the reward isself, the

485
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:51.079
reward itself is basically it's given the
offensive opportunity to be great too, because

486
00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.839
if you put a great defense out
there, and a great defense or I

487
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:58.880
mean good the great defense do to
things that these kids are doing as far

488
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:04.160
as running around to the ball,
always got more multiple helmets on the ball,

489
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:09.079
causing turnovers, cost three in outs, and then putting your offense on

490
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:13.759
the field and let them control and
manage the time of the clock, and

491
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:15.519
we just sit back there and wait
for our turn to go back out and

492
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:19.799
continue to do the same thing over
and over again. You know. I

493
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:22.319
mean, that's that's that's the best
defense you can ever have when you got

494
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:30.200
three in out and again and like
causing some form of a turnover, maybe

495
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:32.759
be a fumble or maybe a wagon
to say interception, because was the kid

496
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:37.559
number twenty three, Oh my god, this kid should have ten interception.

497
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:42.839
But anyway, taking you know,
just taking the ball from the offense,

498
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:46.200
so so from our opponent offense,
so the defense, our offense can get

499
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:50.640
the ball right and like I say, manage the game, control the clock,

500
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:53.359
you know, score here and there, and the bottom line, our

501
00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:57.240
numbers are bigger than their number on
the scoreboard, and we win the game,

502
00:33:57.279 --> 00:33:59.839
and you know, and the defense
are very happy. At that point,

503
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:01.599
we have about a minute left.
I want to ask you a question.

504
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:05.880
I'm not sure how you can answer
this, but I asked this of

505
00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:08.960
coaches. I don't want to ask
this of of coach of Fish. What

506
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:14.440
do you think his secret, sauce
is he knows how to talk to kids

507
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:16.920
and talk to people. He knows
how to He knows how to get the

508
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:20.880
most out of his players, and
he knows how to get the most out

509
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:23.679
of his staff. I mean,
I think it's the way he treats his

510
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:30.000
players as young men, and he
treats his coaching staff, you know as

511
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:35.880
as you know, a season adult
educated coaches, and and and I mean

512
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:38.239
those things as far as that I
see in the man that that he knows

513
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:40.719
how to deal with people. Look
how he deals with the public here.

514
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:45.719
I mean, first and foremost,
when you guys have your little meetings with

515
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:49.599
him, the first thing you do
is thank you for coming here. Regards

516
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:52.639
he went a loss. He knows
how to treat people. And I think

517
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:55.760
the bottom line is is that's his
sauce. That's a good observation, very

518
00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:00.119
very good. I didn't know you
were that smart, I did, I

519
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:02.199
did. Then I knew you were
that you I knew you were that.

520
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:12.360
Thanks as always, thank you man. Thanks, I appreciate it. That

521
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:15.119
was good. That was good.
You know exactly what I'm saying about.

522
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:20.880
And your observation to me from the
textas what I said that what it sounded

523
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:22.079
like you were trying to get at
And then with his answer. He really

524
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:25.599
kind of pointed out My point was
that they don't play harder, but they

525
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:30.079
trust that their hard play is going
to get rewarded with successful decisions off right,

526
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:32.320
Yeah, yeah, they had they
felt like there was a quarterback.

527
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:36.199
They're making better decisions, so you
can more confidence, yeah, yeah,

528
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:39.039
more confidence that the guy that's back
there is going to do things. Both

529
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:43.960
both could be right at the same
time. They can Yeah, okay,

530
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:45.440
okay, let's take a break.
All right, let's take our last break.

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Break. We'll take your calls.
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You guys want to call catch up
and can yell at me like I can

589
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handle it. I'm a forty year
old man. I can handle He's gonna

590
00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:07.840
beat? Is that? That's differently
like Lundy what's his name? He didn't.

591
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:12.119
He didn't like what you said about
the guys playing harder for one quarterback

592
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over the other. He'll get over
it. He didn't get over it on

593
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your exactly what I was? My
answer? Yeah, because he didn't want

594
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:22.960
to say that they play I mean, I'm not gonna speak. He defended

595
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:25.719
it eventually. Yeah, he kids, we were talking about where he kind

596
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:29.800
of did in a roundabout way.
He said, like, exactly, believe

597
00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:31.840
in him a little more, but
they might not play harder, right right,

598
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:38.000
Yeah, my philosphy is correct.
You guys got the same answer to

599
00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:42.639
a different equation, right right.
Exactly. It was the new common core.

600
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:46.000
His was more like this was more
pr friendly. Yeah he was,

601
00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:50.760
no, but yeah you kind of
right. Yeah, no, that's good.

602
00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:52.280
I was. I loved having laman
to one of the great guys.

603
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:55.039
Well again, you know again for
a guy who played you know, both

604
00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:59.960
here and in the NFL. Yeah, and it's just kind of stayed.

605
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:05.239
You don't lose what you what you
know, here's hoping what I have happens.

606
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:07.440
And you know me, everyone hates
thinks I'm the naysayer and blah blah

607
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:10.639
blah. I'm okay with that.
Well, I'm the more realistic guy.

608
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:15.480
And just because you become successful,
don't that's the whole thing. They got

609
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:19.400
to sustain this r that's been one
of the problems. That's the hard part.

610
00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:21.880
You win, okay, and then
you win more, and you win

611
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:24.880
more and keep it going because before
it's win and then go away. Yeah,

612
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:30.800
that's what this program deserves. Yeah. Well there are two there three

613
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:34.719
best football seasons have all been followed
by duds. Jay, But let me

614
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:37.719
tell you something. Here's the secret. They're going to a better conference where

615
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:39.599
they can find more success. Well
that's the thing, Steve, you know,

616
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:45.840
Okay, this has followed into their
lap. But yeah, follow me

617
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:49.599
on this, okay, because I
know you think I'm crazy to think that

618
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:52.920
they can win. Let's say,
let's say let's say they win nine.

619
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:55.719
Nine is way more realistic. In
fact, I didn't like your eighty five

620
00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:59.079
percent, but I kind of like
what you're thinking. Let's think nine and

621
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:01.159
four. Okay, all right,
let's say they lose to Utah, go

622
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:04.639
eight and you know, eight and
four regular season, win a bowl game

623
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:07.519
nine to four, What are they
gonna be picked in the in the Big

624
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.760
twelve, third, fourth, second, Yeah, you know, Utah will

625
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:14.800
probably be picked first next year,
maybe Oklahoma State. I don't know what

626
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:17.840
they're losing. TCU has been the
crapper. TC's done is doing what Arizona

627
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:23.119
as one great season then pooped the
bed. You know, Arizona did that,

628
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:27.639
and they did that in ninety four
following the ninety three season they went

629
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:30.519
to the festival. They did it
in ninety nine following that ninety eight season

630
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:34.679
where they went twelve and one,
and then in twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen,

631
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:37.679
they still went to a bowl game. But it wasn't a great season,

632
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:40.199
you know, and we were everybody
was expecting better because everybody was back,

633
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:45.840
Scoomy was back on, Solomon was
not. Everybody was back, and

634
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:49.639
and you know they went poopy.
You know the whole season. Is that

635
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:54.559
a technical times a technical? Yeah, but we understand what he's you.

636
00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:58.159
I'm saying, yeah, you know, that's just you had this season.

637
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:00.679
He thought, Okay, here here
comes Arizona and then back to what Arizona

638
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:05.599
is. Yeah, right, right, let's take it. Oh, you're

639
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:08.159
on the air and I on the
ball. Hey Jay, this is done.

640
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:12.559
How you guys doing pretty good?
Done? Are you? Oh?

641
00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:15.559
I'm all right. I think Steve's
cruising for a bruising. But that's the

642
00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:20.840
way it goes. I've got some
steps I can say out running. You

643
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:27.280
know, if Arizona finishes nine and
four or ten and three, I would

644
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:32.400
not expect the Big twelve Press to
be picking Arizona number two or three in

645
00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:37.360
the league over there. Yes,
the Big twelve is getting ready for an

646
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:44.400
invasion. And there's some good teams. There's some good teams coming over there,

647
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:49.079
and it's gonna be the situation.
Yeah. Well, the only thing

648
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:52.400
is the new teams they have this
year have not done well. You know,

649
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:57.840
Central Florida, Cincinnati BYU and who's
the other one? Central Florida,

650
00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:02.519
Cincinnati, BYU in Houston, West
Virginia. They've not done well this year,

651
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:05.760
so they're gonna they say, Okay, well now here it comes Arizona,

652
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:08.079
Utah, a su and oh they're
not going to be any good either.

653
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:16.159
I could see them thinking that.
But I think that to to Steve's

654
00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:23.840
point, I think that the offense
looks a lot more efficient. It looks

655
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:30.199
like it's like there's no wasted movement. You know, there's no big splash

656
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:37.840
plays. But the drives are you
know, sustainable. Yeah, and you

657
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:45.679
can't and no matter and we can't. We can't predict the letdown just yet

658
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:52.000
because it's a new regime, it's
a new program, and it seems like

659
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:59.360
Jetfish has has things. I think
they're playing a little bit different than what

660
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:04.760
we've seen in YEP, where I'm
hoping we don't have such letdowns. It

661
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:09.599
feels you're right, it feels different, right because because and then ninety three

662
00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:14.480
seasons, like we were shocked when
they beat Miami in the in the in

663
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:17.440
the festival, the way they did
it was shocking, YEP. And then

664
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:22.280
you just kind of felt they were
really good, but were they good for

665
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:25.559
the long haul. Ninety eight you
kind of felt yeah, But then I

666
00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:28.800
remember, you know, before the
ninety eight season, a couple of people

667
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:31.559
who said to me, this team's
lacking some leadership and be careful and they

668
00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:36.280
and they went into the pooper,
you know. And then twenty fourteen was

669
00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:38.880
mostly injuries on Solomon got hurt.
Excuse me, right, got hurt.

670
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:43.960
You know, all this stuff was
happening. So this team, this feels

671
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:45.599
different because it seems more like more
for the long haul. Well, you

672
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:49.039
got to break that curse, and
maybe this is the thing that brings that

673
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:52.320
break sectors because you know, I
believe it and you believe it, right,

674
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:57.320
Yeah, It's well, it's like
momentum. It's always happened. So

675
00:45:57.679 --> 00:46:04.280
it's it's we're doomed. Don want
me to yell at you to don't you?

676
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:07.400
You know what? And then you
you start talking about emotions and things

677
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:10.199
like that, and emotions carrying teams. What is that? That's the momentum

678
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:19.280
of the situation. Way go don
All right, Don, thanks so much,

679
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:30.280
man, I appreciate the call.
He I love that that but but

680
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:34.960
it came back to that point.
This does feel different. It does.

681
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:37.880
I can tell you that I didn't
you know, those seasons, those those

682
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:43.159
three and those seasons stick out to
me. Those three seasons, I didn't

683
00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:47.599
have this feeling like they've built something. What you felt was they've had a

684
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:51.960
really great season. Can they do
it again next? Right? And that's

685
00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:55.480
the whole this whole game. They've
built to this and it's sort of on

686
00:46:55.519 --> 00:47:00.760
a on a foundation we think maybe
this goes on again. Don't get your

687
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:04.199
hopes up, because it's just a
moment in time. But I was gonna

688
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:07.760
ask, are you guys kind of
hinting at like the difference between having a

689
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:09.519
great season and building a great program? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

690
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:12.679
And maybe this is the feeling of
like, hey, do we have

691
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.320
a great program building here right?
Instead of just hot right now? You

692
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:19.480
got a sense of what rich Rod
had a chance to do, right,

693
00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:22.320
and it just didn't happen. Even
when we covered the team back in the

694
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:24.400
late eighties and Dick was here and
it was like the seven and fours of

695
00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:28.599
five fives and single whatever it was, it was not. It was not

696
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:31.119
great. Right. Well, I've
told you the story that after the ninety

697
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:35.000
four season, right, because remember
they did they had that Gracie ninety three

698
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:37.639
beat Miami in the festival. Everybody
was back, you know, you thought,

699
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:40.360
okay, this is it, right, Yeah, and then they go

700
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:44.880
I mean they went eight, and
they went eight, eight and three,

701
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:47.760
but then they lost to Utah when
Utah wasn't the Utah it is today in

702
00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:52.159
the Freedom Bull disappointing season based on
what you thought the expectation would have been.

703
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:57.000
Yeah, you know so, And
I remember that summer. It is

704
00:47:57.000 --> 00:47:59.239
when I was playing baseball, you
know, with all those guys from you

705
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:00.400
have, including Dick, me and
I. Just one of those days in

706
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:04.199
the in the duck, I said, Dick, what the hell happened?

707
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:07.199
He goes, our guys didn't do
the work. Yeah, he said,

708
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:13.079
they rested on what we did in
ninety three. And he said, in

709
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:16.960
the summer before the before the ninety
four season, I knew that we were

710
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:21.000
in trouble. When when was the
year that he decided not to hit?

711
00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:27.159
Before the Penn State year? Whatever? That? Because they were they were

712
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:30.079
thought highly of, right, they
didn't want they didn't practice, didn't hit

713
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:35.119
doing practice. They wanted to save
themselves, and they looked horrible and and

714
00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:38.559
and and uh, well you know
again, Dick basically said that they they

715
00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:46.199
literally not figured, literally killed Keith
Smith's spirit in that game. He said

716
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:51.239
Keith Smith was done for the season
after that game. Now I'm saying that

717
00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:52.559
now, it's probably not you.
And if Keith came on the show,

718
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:55.920
he'd say that was bull crap.
But you know, he said, the

719
00:48:55.920 --> 00:49:01.440
problem was that Keith Smith was not
the player that after that day, I

720
00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:05.400
think got beat up. So that
was a horrible They got beat so bad

721
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:08.320
they crushed them. Yeah, and
that's understandable. Yeah, no, but

722
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:12.639
I think, if anything, I
think that's what they need to establish this

723
00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:15.800
great consistency. I think moving into
the maybe the you know, the stuns

724
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:21.000
and the moon's finally aligned and it
happens. Yeah, but if that happens,

725
00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:22.960
guess what you might be looking for
your coach and blah blah blah.

726
00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:25.039
But you know, that's a problem. That's a good problem to have.

727
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:30.079
Nobody. That means you've done well. Yeah. Yeah, and again who

728
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:35.800
we were talking to, mister gab
or whatever, be prepared. Yeah,

729
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:38.880
if there, if Arizone was having
success, somebody's gonna come looking for jet

730
00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:42.760
Fish. Sure, but that means
you've been successful. You've been successful,

731
00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:45.159
and then you got to the key
is do you go get somebody who can

732
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:51.440
carry it on? Sure, Mike
Stews, Well he came in after Macavic.

733
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:53.559
They you remember, they went and
got Macivict after Tony and it just

734
00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:59.159
put it in the toilet. Had
my excuse was kind of in Jet Fish's

735
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:02.920
position, rich Rod after Stoops.
You know, he advanced the thing,

736
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:07.760
but again then he faded because he
sort of yeah, he kind of loved

737
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:12.559
too. The last couple of recruit
recruiting right, well, let me tell

738
00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:16.039
you, I thought that I thought
that my guy Lamont's story of the secret

739
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:21.239
answer was fantastic because guess what,
you have the football coach like that,

740
00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:24.639
you have the basketball coach like that, guys who are just dudes who are

741
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:30.239
getting along in the community to treat
people like people. That hadn't been the

742
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:34.840
case for a while, and a
couple of sports wink wink, wink wink.

743
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:37.960
Yeah, no, yeah, I
hear you. So, you know,

744
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:40.719
I just I just think you have
to you have to sit here and

745
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:45.679
figure, you know, what are
they doing and how sustainable is this?

746
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:50.199
And you know we won't find this
out till next year in the year after,

747
00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:52.840
you know, but let's have fun. This year, which we are

748
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:55.559
and we're having a blast, and
you know you're going up to Colorado and

749
00:50:55.639 --> 00:51:00.440
you again, this is the thing. This is another like like this Tanford

750
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:01.400
game. Right, play a couple
of games and now you go up to

751
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:04.840
a team you should beat the hell
out of them, but then you don't.

752
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:08.119
Right, historically what Arizona does right
and this and you were at the

753
00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:12.840
point in the program every one of
these games is that game you're building the

754
00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:15.840
program where you're where you're gonna go
back and say, is this gonna be

755
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:17.320
that game? You beat Washington State, you think, okay, here comes

756
00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:21.039
Oregon State. They're gonna kick our
asses. You beat Oregon State, Well,

757
00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:22.119
now you s A is gonna come
and kick our ass. Then you

758
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:27.079
be UCLA and you're trying, I'm
trying to believe that they're really that good

759
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:30.679
and that they in the Colorado shouldn't
beat them. But if you've been in

760
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:32.480
Arizona fan for as long as I
have, you know that this is a

761
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:37.280
game that Arizona struggles on the road, kind of a trap game. You've

762
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:42.239
got Utah coming up next, a
team that you're looking at your nine and

763
00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:45.239
a half point or ten ten point
favorite, and you're thinking about, well,

764
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:47.559
we're really good, and then you
go in there and this is a

765
00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:52.760
team that at least offensively is capable
to beat you. But I think this

766
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:54.840
is different because these dudes are,
like I said, dogs, dogs,

767
00:51:54.880 --> 00:52:00.159
they're dogs and dogs dogs don't If
you don't appreciate the dogs, they them

768
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:01.519
back and get you. Well.
And that's why they've won these three games

769
00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:07.360
is because as well as they played
against USC, none of them said we're

770
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:10.199
there. Yeah. So they went
out to beat Washington State, still none

771
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:14.400
of them said were there. Then
they beat Oregon State and none of them

772
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:16.320
said we're there, and then they
be at UCLA. You'd think that they're

773
00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:20.199
going to have the same mentality to
say, guys, we haven't done anything

774
00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:22.360
yet. Just say this is no
question. I yes, both of you.

775
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:25.519
So let's assume they played USC next
week. What do you think the

776
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:29.760
line would be and would you take
them? I would I take Arizona.

777
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:32.000
I would, especially under the circumstance
of the US season right now, right

778
00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:37.239
right season gone equal equal equals.
Yeah. If if the game was next

779
00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:40.440
week, I'm taking Arizona too,
I think. I mean, for me,

780
00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:43.480
it would depend on what the line
is at like what they said it

781
00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:45.159
up, but I would probably be
happy taking it. If that game's here

782
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:49.840
Arizona's favor or at least a two
or one, it would be closed,

783
00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:53.239
right because I yeah, and they
have the formula beat them. Yeah,

784
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:57.280
and I mean the difference is going
to be that guy that can run and

785
00:52:57.320 --> 00:52:59.119
make the two point conversion at the
end of the game. Right, it's

786
00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:04.000
gonna be. And they're better at
what they're doing now with their quarterback that

787
00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:07.519
they they're playing harder for. Well
again said it seems to have all started

788
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:10.639
there. Oh yeah, all these
things are doing now started there. So

789
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:15.119
it started and they've advanced it.
You know, it's gotten better every every

790
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:20.599
week in sports. There's a few
things I've learned. Uh. Confidence and

791
00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:23.639
they have that Oma. I wanted
to say that, but I was not

792
00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:30.039
confidence and uh just uh I lost
it. I lost it. But confidence

793
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:34.440
they hadn't had it now they haven't
get it back by tomorrow. Okay,

794
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:37.199
we'll be back tomorrow with more great
guests, so be sure to come back.

795
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:37.000
Thanks for being here.