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Your nose needs to be forward to
the golf ball in impact. But when

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you try to help something up and
you start silking backwards to do it,

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you're starting to move your low point
behind the ball and there we go.

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Now we got are Chunkin's calling it. I hate using the term cuff do

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the work, but let the lot
and the club get the ball up and

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out of the stand. There's some
lips that people come to take less you

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last such a high and rim.
I'm like, that lip's not even in

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my awareness. They're getting scared at
something that's not really relevant. Once you

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understand what the club can actually do, especially if you open the base,

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you can get so much high on
the golf ball. Hi, this is

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Peter Blackmore from Melbourne, Australia and
I play at the Melbourne Airport Golf Club.

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And this is Golf Smarter number nine
four four mastering bunker play with tips

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and tricks you can use and myths
to avoid with Josh Sander. This is

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golf Smarter sharing stories, tips and
insights from great golf mines to help you

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lower your score and raise your golf
IQ. Here's your host, Fred Green.

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Welcome back to the golf Smarter podcast. Josh, thanks for having me

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back Brett on all It love having
you back, man, Like the amount

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that I learned from you every time
totally justifies why I do this podcast.

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People are like, really do you
How did you start this? I said,

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I wanted free lessons, and it's
like, I figure, I'll just

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talk to golf instructors. And it's
like I could bub golf, that's for

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sure. And the way you and
I met, I was playing in a

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golf charity golf tournament and you gave
a clinic beforehand on short game and bunker

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play, and I learned so much
from that that I thought, let's do

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that again. I wanted to talk
to you about bunker play today because you

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gave me some tips that I remember
and then sometimes I'm like, wait,

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am I supposed to stand here or
put the ball there? So there's so

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much that we can discuss about bunker
play. Where do we start on fairway

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bunkers or greenside bunkers. Let's start
at green side boxers. They're very different.

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They're very different shots, Yeah,
they really are. And I kind

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of look at bunkers it's kind of
like a little sport, little game within

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a game. It almost always there
is a big misconception in boker play,

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and that is that you want to
get behind the ball. And I'd like

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to clarify that and say, it's
not hitting behind the ball. It's entering

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the sand behind the ball. But
the actual low point of the swing has

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to be past the ball. So
the club should still be descending as it

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enters the sand behind the ball,
continue to go down and under the ball

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and actually reach its low point half
the ball, just like on a normal

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fairway shot. Well, on a
fairway shot, you're going to hit the

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golf ball first and then here you
in the sand at first. But the

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club should still be descending as it's
hitting the sand and going under the ball.

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So sometimes I'll fall, I'll bury
a tea into a ball and say,

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let's just get the tea out come
under the ball. Oh, that's

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a good one as a good just
little little tip. And that gets people

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to actually try to go down and
under the ball rather than hit behind the

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ball, because if your low point
is behind the ball, you will either

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spat your bunker shot, hit that'll
chunk and run, or even worse,

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the club has reached its low point
and it's now ascending by the time it

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gets to the ball, and that's
the one and it stulps. So when

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people come in and say, well, I'm both fatting and sculling my bucker

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shots, I'm like, oh,
it's simple. Your love point's way too

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far behind the ball. And they're
like, well, aren't I supposed to

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hit behind the ball? I said, you're supposed to enter the sand behind

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the ball, But no, you're
not going to You're not trying to hit

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behind the ball. You're actually trying
to hit past. But the club is

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still descending as it enters the sand, water or two itch is behind the

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ball, and then it's gonna bottom
out pass the ball. Then the question,

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because well, how do you bottom
out pass the ball? What's the

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best way to do that? And
I kind of think of my nose as

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kind of like the stutter line of
my body, your nose or your stirrum,

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and that's pretty much where you're gonna
bottom out. So if you put

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your head or your nose forward the
ball so on the target side of the

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ball, you're gonna have a good
chance of having that below. Now,

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you'd like to have the club descending
into the sand on its way to that.

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So I just put my pressure forward. I'm a right and a golfer,

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so I clean my pressure onto my
beat, slug my left foot,

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and then I put my nose forward
to the ball and then hit the boxer

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shots from there, and you end
up pitying closer to the ball, but

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you'll never skull it because the club
is still going downward. Those are the

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really fine shots people have their home
because like, oh my goodness, that's

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what I'm supposed to do. They
hit that nice high bunker shot that takes

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one off and then it stops like
oh god. So I think that's the

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biggest misconception that people have is that
oh I got to I got to pit

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behind the balls. They put the
ball wait for in their stance. Their

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nose is now behind the ball,
and now they're flirting with chunks and skulls,

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and you'll never get really good distance
control. I see the first step

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that's get yourself out bunker right,
like your weekend golfers like, just get

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me out a great r thing too. But if I could make bud,

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that's a bonus, right. The
more advanced looor anticap colleague or even touring

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pro thinking I want to get this
up and down. I'm going to try

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to hold this bummer shot so they
have a lot of control over it.

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And on tour, the bunkers are
so perfectly manicured in there, so it's

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almost like they had easier bumper shots
than most of us do. Because caddies

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after after a touring pros hit a
bumper shot make that thing like look like

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the work of art. I remember
one time I was doing some work for

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NBC at the Ryder Cup and totten
this top dating myself and Tom Lamy just

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hit a great side bunker shot,
and uh, it is Kennedy break the

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things so beautifully. I had to
give him a compliment. I'm like,

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that's like the work of art.
If I don't do this, then the

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guys be hiding me super pissed offs. It's just standard procedure for us that.

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But you know, the rest of
us are playing in you know bunkers

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that are sort of Parsley Ray footprint
there. They did put an upstanding.

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It's raty whatever it is. They're
not perfectly adding here, so they're so

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they're challenging. So the last thing
you want is to make a challenging shot,

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even worse by having or a creage
more information out there. That's that's

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around it. Most people's head to
come and take lessons, at least for

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me, is well, I got
to hit behind the ball, so I'm

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gonna play the ball waight forward.
I might have the ball or to my

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stands, but it's not ordered because
I'm so much pressure im onto my needs.

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So that's the first thing I would
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be careful warrior about yeah, and
how you know? That's interesting because that's

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different than a fairway shot in the
sense that you said you hit the ball

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first, but you got to bring
the low point of your swing even lower

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right, And so how how do
you position your body? So now you

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want to create that steep rang right
okay shot requires a steep rayle or what

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I call the D shaped bottom of
the lid. So so if you think

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about how to create a steep angle, while you can do it cetaal ways,

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you can do it by leaning your
weight off your leads. Lowering your

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lead shoulder will make a clup go
up more and time down steeper. You

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can have more or leaning your shaft
that creates a steep right in the live

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of the golf ball. You can
injure risks more. You get the clup

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up and out of the stand delivered
quicker, you can narrow your back split.

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There's this whole mad menu of steep
angles that players you to be effective

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out of the bunker, and that
creates an angle it's going to bottom out

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more under the gulf. Whereas if
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top of the sand, like a
fairly bumper shot, I might go from

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some more shallow arrangles ball it was
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The width of this wing, uh, the width gets where that the

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width gets wider, as you will, I might have the less risk age

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going back doing a lot of things
that shallow angle approach there versus an the

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green sanded bunker Oromo games were more
of a steep bottom of this. That

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means there's a lot of information to
process before you step into the bunker.

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And there's also I call it,
I think you've talked about this where I

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call I call it doing the map
before you get a shot, Like what

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the first thing you gotta do is
you got to assess the lot? Okay,

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what what what does this light telling
you? About what's going on?

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What's the story this lifestyle is?
Are the bunker's heart that are they are?

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Is it fluffy standard? They just
throw a bunch of new sand in.

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Uh. What kind of a club
do I have that's going to have

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a proper bounce to get at the
bunker of this situation? What effort level

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do I need to create the proper
distance control out of this shot? So,

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for example, let's say I get
in a bunker that's got very little

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stamp. It's it's you know,
maybe maybe there's been a little bit of

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moisture, some dew, maybe a
lit literate, it's a little harder pack.

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Well, I know I can't open
the face as much because then the

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bounce will get right in a little
the back of the bole skullets. I

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didn't have to square the base up
a little bit more. But now that

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effects my distance control. The ball
is going to come out faster, so

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not the effort level my sling has
to change. So this is all part

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of what's going on in my head. I look at the lie figure out,

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you know what, what's the ideal
shot I'd like to hit? What

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can I get from this slide?
And what does this slide tell me about

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what I can and can't do well, it's the effort level I need.

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How much can I open the face
or how much do the square up the

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base? Do I even have to? Is it varied to close the base

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maybe or create a steeper angle.
But there's all this mathic goes out,

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goes on in uh, in my
mind before I hit this shot, or

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even when I'm teaching different disc wives
out of the poppers, because you can't

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go in there with the one size. That's all mentality, because if you

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do that, you're going to be
successful, very very small art. Yeah,

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yeah, and yeah, there are
there are bunkers that you know,

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I play public courses and so sometimes
it'll if we had moisture or the sprinklers

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were on with something, but it's
just like hard pan. It's just you

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know, and then it's like,
well, am I treating this like a

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bunker shot? Or am I treating
this like a chip shot? I mean,

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we're we're still on a green side
bunker here. Yeah, it's it's

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it's interesting. I mean, if
you're if you're really feel interested in being

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very successful at ploppers, you need
to understand what's under your fault. Right.

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When I used to be back in
the nineties when I was a tour

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last wives playing all over the world. During the practice routes, I literally

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rapped. I probably start digging,
digging board, seeing what's underneath this?

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What am I playing on this week? How's the ball kept? We come

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out of the bucker this? Uh? That that was a huge part of

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uh kind of the you know,
the investigation process of being a good A

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good player is understanding what the course
conditions are the week that you're playing.

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So that's that's, uh, that's
super important. I kind of chuck you

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a little bit here because I have
this this one athletic student who U who?

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You know? He plays all over
the place. So if he said,

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you know when and I'm a titleist
guy, I'll put a plug in

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titleist. They make boke Bop book. He makes great wedges, and so

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he said, would you order me
a portfolio of places but basically keep winding

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them off. He said, just
order all for me because I'm going to

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be playing all different kinds of conditions
And there's you know, the ballance,

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the grinds that that that Bock puts
in his clubs. Some of them fit

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certain courses better than others certain you
know, turf conditions, certain bunker conditions.

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So there's there's they called the Kate
Ryan, which is a fantastic buppet

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club for slufty buckers. But if
you're playing hardback buckers, I mean,

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if you remember the old alien wife
at the Huge Bottom, it's the closest

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pot bok. He comes to Namly
Wedge and it's like it's like cheating.

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You get out of a bomper with
why this is with one of his cake

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ryans. If the bompers are fluffy, but it's if they're not, then

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you're gonna have a tough time,
you know, not staring with all that

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glove. So uh. And then
there's the Tea Grind that's like it's only

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got four degrees of ballots. It's
great out of tight wives and buckers and

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pipelines around green. So I mean, if I'd a competitive player, I've

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got I've got portfolio wedges that I'm
going to look into to figure out which

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ones are making the traveling team,
so to speak, for this week.

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You can't expect. You can't expect
one club to fit all situations, just

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like you can't expect to you know, set the club up the same for

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different situations, or have the same
effort low. There's a fantastic player flash

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teacher the past away if he was
gonna Phil Rogers and I was first getting

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into the teaching business. I I
was looking into, you know, just

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learning back then the pja Quichy and
teaching. Some that they used to put

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out VHS tapes of the recordings of
all the great teachers talking about bunkers and

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Phil Rogers talking about about about teaching. Phil Rogers was doing a bunker one

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and he said something interesting. He
said, a bucker shot will go about

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one third of the distance that the
same swing would produce from brets. So

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a stock basic bunker shot, if
you want to hit, for example,

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a ten yard green side bopper shot, it would require the same effort level

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that it would to hit a thirty
yard shot. And I always thought that

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was a great starting point to help
you know the week helper understand like how

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much effort level do you really need
to get this ball? But that's also

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based on making good content. So
I've always said, you know that that

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distance control comes from good contact and
paying attention. Right, So if you

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if you want to chip it really
well. You first have the happy contact,

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but then you also have to pay
attention to out part of the ole

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is you know where to land it
now? I just roll up, builds

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down. All that information is a
matter of paying attention, and a lot

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of times I get frustrated when people
like practice things without looking at the ole

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eye. You look at the old
see where you're going to land this ball?

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How's it going to roll out?
Part? You know, there's this

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intuition that we have as human beings
at alses understand you know, I'm gonna

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throw all the three feet awaight,
I don't three feet away. I don't

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wind up and shift my weight.
I just tossed it to the really softly

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right. So it's the same thing
when you do at short game shots is

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understanding what effort level it takes.
But you need to have I go back

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to the first thing we talked about, which is you need to know how

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to make proper contact in the bunk
because about that, you don't really know

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what after a level put in there. Because if you you're chunking and spelling

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your brands like you spalling hit that
with art. No, you didn't hit

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it to art. You bellied it. You just alled it over the grate

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that you really have an effort level
to really get that shell. You just

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bottomed out behind the bull, caught
it up in the EPs. All right,

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well, let's take a break,
and when we come back, we're

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going to talk about amateur players and
their game and the myth that they have

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in their head that that ruin every
bunker shot they take. And we'll be

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back right after this. So yeah, a lot of time you'll be talking

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about these professionals who did this and
this, you know kid who's on your

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you know, your team, and
you're getting them ready for high level competitive

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play. I think that when I
watch the people that I play with,

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amateurs and recreational players that are you
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everyone's trying to lift the ball out
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we've been talking a lot about that
lately, about lifting the ball as opposed

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to making that contact go ahead.
There's this instinct that you want to lift

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the ball out the boxer and sure
that the tendency if you do that is

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to tilt backwards. Throw something up
you tilt backwards. I remember, we

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go back to the first part of
our conversation, where should your nose.

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Your nose needs to be forward to
the golf ball. In it fact that

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we try to help something up and
you start tilting backwards to do it,

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you're starting to move your low point
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Now we know are Chunkin's calling it. So yeah, let the I

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hate using the term do the work, but let the lot and the club

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get the ball up and out of
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There's some lips that people you know, come take less. You're like,

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well, that's such a hide it. I'm like, that lip's not even

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in my awareness, it's not even
close. And then I'll take a video

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of them hitting it shot and the
balls their the lip by like three or

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four feet. It's like, you
know, they're they're getting scared. It's

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something that's not really relevant once you
understand what the club can actually do,

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especially if you open the face.
You can get so much high on the

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golf ball if you got the proper
the proper content. Another thing, if

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you don't mind me going on with
what's a different thought here about bunker playlet,

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I'm real good on going in different
directions go for it. This is

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something that's that's that I would say
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fieves and bunker play. It's people
think they need to cut across the golf

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and have an open stains. So
they take, well, I've opened my

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club base, so I now have
to open my stands. Right, if

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I'm a right hitded player, well, I open the club base is pointing

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to the right, so now I
need to aim my feet to let and

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then we have this able to try
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the golf ball. And when I
was a rookie teacher back in the early

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nineties, I hated teaching bucker because
I could not help people with the traditional

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open your club face, open the
dance swing across swing out. And at

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one point I said, this is
so bad both my little bucker game,

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trying to do this and teaching it. So I did to do the oposit

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I'm going to close my stands and
I still open the face, but I'm

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going to close my stands and I
started hit these beautiful high stop bunker shots

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with square spin, no sides.
I hate the ball kicking out on the

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grid and kicking off to the right
things they came across. So God,

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I can't remember how many years ago
spoke the golf chair. I was at

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a teaching at vent and the Golf
channel asked me to do a bunker the

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bunker baby, and so I set
up and then I set up alide from

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my feet, which was dead square. I opened my clock face but then

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lowered my candle. For those who
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the face closes so that offsets the
open face. So and I had a

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nice, nice line the boxers.
I said, here's what I'm gonna do.

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I'm gonna have a square stance with
my feet flared out, but no,

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no open stands. I'm going to
lower the handle. I'm going to

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lead to my lead side so my
nose is more to the golf and I'm

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gonna swing into it on plane,
not outside it. And they entitled it

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Unconventional Bunker Advice was the name of
the video. Wow, basically it was.

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I want to say it was ahead
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it's time had caught that so many
people were struggling with this open the face

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come outside it. And then I'm
watching golf on TV a day and Johnny

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Miller says, you notice the tournet
pros these days, they'd open, they'd

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open their stances. Didny want bucker
shops? And I started to laughing to

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myself, of course, not because
that old way of teaching to open the

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face outside didn't sleep was poor.
I don't know started it, but like

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shaking them and saying, what didn't
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You know, God no, God
knows how many years. So I'd say

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another piece of advice I have to
people is try squaring yourself up with your

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stance in the bunker and not aiming
way open. I would say, experiment

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but lowering handle to get the left
face back to square rather than trying to

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hope your stance to do that.
Let me stop you for just a second.

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When you say I want to clarify
lower the handle, so for right

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handed golfer, does that mean going
forward or lower lower the handle like you

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were going to take. If you
set up in your normal stance and you

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said our family to left the club
ball to the ground, the handle ball

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toward the sayd I want to lowering
forward to see so if you open a

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club face down, a face to
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the face points to love, so
they upset each other. And I'll

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show people with one of those oh, I say, those li angle magnets,

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and I'll show Okay, you lower
the handle the face. It's kind

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of like what happens when you're the
balls of up your feet right, the

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ball big bluff face points to his
right hand because the handle has been lower

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right face points to the right,
and handles fire on a on a y

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with the ball's lawyer right. So
whenever you lower a handle points to face

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that left, so that will offset
the fact that your face is open.

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Now all you have is a loft. So if I start with my sixty

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and I open it up to eighty
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make my bluff based to pine at
the target. Now I have an eighty

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degree locked up in debt square.
Highball comes out straight and rolls straight,

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and it doesn't have that quirky little
kick to the right that you see a

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lot of people who swing out.
Take it right out. That helps so

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much on a distance control. The
only redeeming value of having it outside of

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the sway of the bunker is the
fact that an outside of his swing is

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a steep angle, and that helps
you get down into the sand. Other

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than everything else about it is awful. So I can create so many different

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ways of getting a steep angle and
sing it without being outside it. Like

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I said earlier, I could lean
more weight to my left side, I

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could pop my wrists up sooner,
I could lower my leech older more.

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I got a ton of tricks to
do that, and I don't, and

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I can still have that ball coming
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So one of my coaches when I
was a Tory professionals wrote used to be

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at the Sanrcisco Golf Club and great, great, great guy, great teacher,

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and who was playing in the era
of Lee Trevino, And he said,

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I'd like to sit at Le Trevito's
bag watch him practice because he hit

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his wedges and square stin And I
never forgot that. Because when you have

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square spin other vers true backspin,
where there's not any kick to to the

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right on your ball, that's a
really easy shot to control, especially what

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happens after the ball lands on the
green. Because I'm trying to hold my

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bumper shot right. Why would I
want to app to try to get my

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ball to start left, so get
kicked to the right, carram into the

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whole out way. It's like,
just get it to roll straight. So

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in order to view that, we
need to be square back. So I

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swing on a good plane inside to
inside rather than the outside, and I

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have loft on my face because I've
lowered the handle and o face. I

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bet a lofted square face and an
on plane and swing. It produces beautiful

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square stin bunker shots. So does
it make any difference on your swing?

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Sure, there's so many different variables
involved here, like being close to the

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front edge of the of the bunker
bunker where you're on an upslope, or

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being in the back of the bunker
where there's a down slope. We're just

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talking about a nice fluffy lie here. But then you know, we've all

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the number one piece of advice would
be don't go on the bunker. But

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this is golf and it's going to
end up there, sooner or later.

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I tell people this all thought.
If you get in the bunker, you're

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pretty close to the greedy. You
could have been that out of a shot

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right around the greed. So don't
try to avoid the bunkers. Become a

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good bunker player. I get the
bucker. I'm like, cool, that's

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just too logical, Josh, come
on, brockers, you're going to start

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avoiding greens. It's hard, it's
really hard to good players hit it in

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the boxers. That's what they do
because balkers are right next to the right,

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next to the three, which is
where the flag is. So I

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don't ever tell people try to avoid
it. I've never I don't think I've

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ever uttered those where's try to avoid
the bump. I can go back and

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erase that if you want me to. You just got to. You got

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to face the challenge is part it's
part of the game. And that's you

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know, make it, make it
a strict Just understand. It's not like

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it's it takes an amazing athlete to
hit a bunker shot. It's just you

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just have to have the right informations, like just building skills. Here as

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golf instructord we build the skill of
being a bucker play. But it is

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a different skill than almost any other
shot at golf. Yeah. Yeah,

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that's why I wanted to focus on
it. And you know, it's not

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just the right information, it's the
right attitude because if you if your ball

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goes in the bunker and you're like, oh god, I hate playing the

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bunker. Oh this is going to
be too right. If you do that,

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you're doomed. But if you go
into it going this is going to

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be fun. I love these shots. This is going to be great.

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You know, it's going to help. May not, you may not have

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success, but it's going to help. I think a lot of times when

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people hit in the bunker, they
think, Okay, well now my score

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is going to go up, and
so they have a bad attitude. Right

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right, I could have been on
the green, but not. I'm a

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bucker, so I have to figure
out how to save how to save myself

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from the situation. It's like if
you think of and this sport go down

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and totally different having me about how
to you know, mentally play the game.

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Yeah, I like what you just
said about, Hey, I've got

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this cool opportunity or I could hold
this or I can't wait to see what

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kind of challenge I have here.
And it's an individual event in this day

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of golf, you're playing that you
get to get this cool shot. I

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was playing. I was doing a
plane lesson yesterday and I'd hit a bunker

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shot, which I fought was really
good, and it just kept rolling and

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there went down this embankment and then
I had I had a lob shot with

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no greedy to work with that.
I hit it a little short, right

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back to my feet and my shot
to the green which is purely out,

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and it topped the top of the
bucker went in. I hit this beautiful

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bunker shot exactly how I want to
do, but I misjudged it when green

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was going away from me and I
didn't maybe I didn't take that A new

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acout kept quickly. I mean I
hit the bunker shire by my group's ah,

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great shot, and I'm like,
oh, oh, pleasy, lob

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shot to about ten feet and I
hit a beautiful pot and I missed the

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butt and I looked at the plane
like one of my idt to play Lessondell,

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like I think I just hit.
I had really good shots on that

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bar three and I just laughed.
I'm like, man, this game,

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this game, really, this really
something. Hit a batch out on the

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hole. I'd made a double on
a one hundred and fifty side yard par

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three, which you never should be
should be a great birdy hour or three

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where you get to hit all with
one hundred and fifty five, which is

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is a cop eight hour. Yeah, you got my first at fifteen feet

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and boom in the fucker. But
you know what, like if you got

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to, you gotta take it.
You got just like that. That's coff,

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you know. Now the time hit
the edge of that boxer kick right

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next to the hall, I make
it too, you know. It's like

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that. So all I can say
is, Josh, welcome to our world.

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We'll be back right after this.
Okay, we've talked about ball being

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00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:02.839
back of the bunker, ball being
in front of the bunker. We haven't

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00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:06.119
actually talked about that. We mentioned, we mentioned, Yeah, well I

408
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do. I do want to,
you know, figure that out because you've

409
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got different attacks going on here,
correct. So I use this. I

410
00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:22.160
use this visual where I just hold
up the club between my thumb and my

411
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:23.440
exs finger and I just let it
splay back and forth, and I show

412
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people this is a club swing.
There's a point where the club is sleep

413
00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:32.680
that word, and there's a point
where the club is sleep upward. Well

414
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:37.519
point lowest point is directly underneath the
top end of the club. So if

415
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you can visualize club swinging back and
forth like a pension. Right. Okay,

416
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:47.319
so it's we're on a on an
uphill lot. Right, you're on

417
00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:49.559
the up slope. Well, where
do you where do you want it?

418
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How do you want to set the
club so you can splain them up the

419
00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:56.039
slope? The hand little should be
behind the club. The other words,

420
00:28:56.039 --> 00:29:00.119
you need to have a shaft this
leading as a right and ended player to

421
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:02.519
the right. We're away from the
target, so the club can swing up

422
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:06.160
the hill on your setup on the
swing, yeah, on the set,

423
00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:11.960
yeah yeah, so it can swing
it up along the slope. If I'm

424
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on a down lie, then I
wanted to have a forward the chat because

425
00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:19.319
that being the club is swinging downward
at the moment straight right, and then

426
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:25.680
you can It's a little tricky when
you're doing an uphill lie. I had

427
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:30.839
a great discussion with James Seepman about
this is a fabulous Shorking teacher. We

428
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.359
were doing a school together and it
was we were trying to upbilized out a

429
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:38.000
bunker and he said, I don't
really like my students to add their shoulders

430
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:41.799
a laminus slope, you know,
with parallels and the slope on bunker shots,

431
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:47.680
because if they happen to fit one. You know. That's that's dot

432
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:52.599
trip each teaching toys. You're mirissing
cuts if you do that kind of stuff.

433
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:56.720
So and I said, I agree, because the other thing is when

434
00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:00.519
you tilt your shoulders with the slope
on an upfill, lie all going back

435
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:03.680
away from the target pitch. Now, if it's the loop, like way

436
00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:06.319
too far behind the ball that you
talked about it earlier in there, you

437
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:11.319
know, So what I do is
I set my shoulders not with the slope,

438
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:15.680
but slightly into the slope, so
the club has a chance to get

439
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:19.680
into the ground, but the handle's
back enough so it doesn't dig into the

440
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:25.119
ground too much. So set up
for rupt hill lives. Write this down

441
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:30.359
for you folks, or stuff shoulders
not parallel to this, Slightly into the

442
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:37.759
slope and the handle back. Okay, Now, when you're doing it downhill,

443
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:41.400
lie usually in the back of the
bunker. On a down slope,

444
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:45.720
you need to get your shoulder big
type of the slope or even more because

445
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:49.079
you try to dig down into it
and you want the handle for them.

446
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:52.440
The ball will come out low.
That's just part of the deal. So

447
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:56.480
if it's goat come out low.
You need to understand how it's going to

448
00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:00.920
react once it gets the greed and
the pin is not always not easy an

449
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:03.359
option as far as where you're eating. So when you hit, I mean,

450
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:07.400
I think those uphill lies and in
front of the bunk of those are

451
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:11.000
easy you can spot. With those
the downhill lies, I'm thinking, I

452
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:15.359
can get it three out of here. I'm doing a great job. Get

453
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:22.039
it somewhere where I could get down
into from wherever it is, because that's

454
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:25.680
where cripple doubles and triples out from
on those downhill lies out in the bunker,

455
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:33.599
right, yeah, right, But
then you have the issue of the

456
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:37.279
flag being close to the bunker and
then the flag being on the opposite side

457
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:41.279
of the green from the bunker.
When something the opposite side of green,

458
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:44.680
the downhill bunker shots actually out of
bet because it ball comes out low and

459
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:48.440
the release and just keeps going.
Yeah. That when the pin's tight to

460
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:51.680
the bunker and you're on an up
though slope, that's actually super easy.

461
00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:53.799
Just pops up really high and lantly
softly. So those are those are kind

462
00:31:53.799 --> 00:32:00.160
of green light situations. But the
opposite, if the pin is tight the

463
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:04.039
bucker and you're on downhill slow.
Yeah, I agree to work with some

464
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:07.720
help figure out how to get it
in a position where you can get down

465
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:14.240
two strokes out that. Yeah,
just take your boat and get out of

466
00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:16.200
there. Have live to fight another
day. Don't try to get cute with

467
00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:20.640
that one. To leave it to
the bucker right, slid over green the

468
00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:22.920
other one carrier and then now you're
just making a huge humber. Yeah.

469
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:27.440
Yeah, So just accept the fact
that you're probably not going to par this

470
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:30.960
hole unless it's pure luck. And
that happens in golf, and that's why

471
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:37.079
we keep going back. But yeah, because if you try to get too

472
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:42.000
cute with something, especially that's real
close to it, you're gonna not even

473
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:45.799
get out of the bunker, and
then you'll really be frustrated and angry,

474
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:47.960
and then you'll it'll just show up
in the next shot. And then what

475
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:53.160
happens, which I've I've not only
seen multiple times, I've done many times,

476
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:57.599
is you hit you try to hit
the ball out of the bunker,

477
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:00.799
it stays in the bunker, and
you don't take your full set up again.

478
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:04.519
You just walk up to it and
swing and swing and swing and swing.

479
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:07.359
Right then your frustration gets in the
way right. You know one of

480
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:09.920
the things that we we you know, we talk about a lot in this

481
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:16.880
is just having the proper information is
a huge first step. Yeah, I

482
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:22.240
think it's a I think it's it's
it's it's a bumber when you go in

483
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:27.279
there trying to do one thing and
expecting that that one thing's gonna work.

484
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:30.039
You need to be able to adjust
to all these different situations, and a

485
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:34.640
lot of that comes from just going
and doing you know that work that didn't

486
00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:37.039
work, I could do, I
do this. This is the effort level

487
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:39.640
I hear. It's you see that
that the people who sport a bunkers,

488
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:44.519
they spend a lot of time praxiing
bumpers. And when when Tiger was at

489
00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:47.880
stamp Or he and Noda Bagay used
to give themselves the worst lies in the

490
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:53.279
bunkers and and have competitions. Now, that's how you really learn. If

491
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:58.440
you keep giving yourself that perfect line
to bunker to make yourself feel good.

492
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:02.880
How often does that happen on the
call? Not very often now, so

493
00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:07.400
you're really not practicing for the test. You're practicing make yourself ill that you

494
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:10.840
can do it. It's like nat
set, it's harder if you could make

495
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:16.039
your practice harder than the game,
that's what great coaches doing. He hates

496
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:21.199
sports. They make practices harder than
the gay. If you're making your gate

497
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:24.840
your practice easier than the game,
you're not really preparing. So don't be

498
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:30.920
surprised when you fail. But if
you do what Noda and Tiger would do,

499
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:37.400
I yeah, had a little bit
of success. Well, yeah,

500
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:39.000
you might have had a little bit
of success. Well, first of all,

501
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:46.199
they were both plankets Stanford. Yeah, so all right, so now

502
00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:52.000
we've got ourselves. There's there's one
hole in particular that I play that the

503
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:58.599
bunker is in front of the green, but it's about fifteen yards in front

504
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:02.800
of the green. So it creates
this illusion because it's got this elevantor you

505
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:07.800
know that the back of the bunker, which is closer to you when you're

506
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:12.480
in the fairway, is higher up, so it kind of blocks where the

507
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:15.159
green is, and you're thinking,
I just need to get it over the

508
00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:17.679
green. And yet you know,
well, when you're when you're in the

509
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:22.639
bunker, you just it's it's a
longer shot, but it's not a fair

510
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:24.800
way bunker shot. Right. That's
one of the artist shots at golf.

511
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:32.880
It's like that super long creates it. Yeah, it that's yeah, it's

512
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:39.639
an interesting that's a that's an interesting
shot because I'd think back to like this

513
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:44.480
the strokes gain that Mark Brody talks
about, and that's one of the one

514
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.679
of the shots that's like when somebody
gets in a like a forty yard bocker

515
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:51.760
shot. It even the Tory pros
they're not they're not getting those up and

516
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:53.800
down very well. It's shit.
Is just a tough shot, but one

517
00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:57.400
of the one of the best pieces
about ice I can give you. On

518
00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:01.400
those you can still play them explosions, But think about the ratio I gave

519
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:06.480
you earlier, the Bill Rodgers ratio
of three to one. So if you

520
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:08.239
have a forty yard bucker shop,
it's gonna take one hundred and twenty yards

521
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:12.679
wick gets you there. Is that
your sandwich. I don't know a lot

522
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:15.159
of amateur players who get their standwich
one hundred and twenty yards. I don't.

523
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:19.360
I mean, I've got some pretty
good let speed. I had my

524
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:22.440
sandwich one hundred yards. I'm not
going to get it there with a full

525
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:27.639
blast bucker shot. I'm gonna have
to take my gap ledge or my pitching

526
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.599
ge. Sometimes I take a nine
iron, I'll play it explosion shot with

527
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:35.480
the lass lotted club to give me
some of the distance. Again, if

528
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:37.039
I can make a three from there, right, I can make it two.

529
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:39.880
That's a huge boutance. But I
don't want to make a four from

530
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:44.280
forty yards in the in the in
that bocker. But those those are some

531
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:49.280
of the artner shots. So maybe
I'll take one thing back when I was

532
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:52.760
saying, when you talk about aiding
buckers, avoiding those bockers, not the

533
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:55.920
green side buckers, but the ones
that are thirty forty yards from the green,

534
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:02.079
Yes, because you're gonna do much
better through seventy yards from the fairway

535
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:07.000
then you are forty yards from the
fairy balker. Yeah, that kind of

536
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:10.239
inside slash fairry bunker you're talking those
are those are just traps that are just

537
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:15.599
those are Yeah, they're they're they're
there to mess with you. And and

538
00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:20.599
this one is on a long part
five right, Yeah, so it's hard

539
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:23.719
to get to that green and you
know, so you you're going forward,

540
00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:25.679
it's like, oh, I just
put it on the side of the bunker.

541
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:30.559
Oh you're gonna flirt with it.
Yeah, bad idea. Bad idea,

542
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:37.559
just come up short of you when
you're already greedy. That's uh,

543
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:39.880
yeah, that takes, that's that's
yeah. That's part of playing golfers to

544
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:45.880
be able to check your ego and
play the smart what like like Tiger and

545
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:50.920
Nicholas, the two best ever say, make it, make an aggressives sling

546
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:54.599
to a conservative target and that's out
of conservative target, be at one of

547
00:37:54.639 --> 00:38:00.320
those thirty to forty yard buckers.
You know what we say, golf smarter,

548
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:04.800
all smarter. There you go.
All right, we're gonna take another

549
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:14.800
break. We'll be back right after
this. All right, Well, what

550
00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:17.360
we haven't talked about now, and
let's do that since we've kind of inched

551
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:22.960
our way back from the green a
little bit with those close ones that are

552
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:28.880
really annoying, but fairway bunkers.
Now, is that the same type of

553
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:34.119
shot? Are you just you know, just trying to get it out or

554
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:36.880
if you feed or you're trying to
get some distance on the ball and maybe

555
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:40.559
even if it's a par four you
could possibly get to the green. Yeah.

556
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:44.440
A lot of it devans on assessing
the lie. What's the lie about

557
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:46.599
you to do? What's the biggest
let you have? To get over all

558
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:52.280
those fans of day so. In
general, fair way bunkers don't tend to

559
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:54.960
have as much sand as green side
boers. They tend to make them a

560
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:59.960
little bit. You rarely get into
a bond crid that's a fairway bond gerd.

561
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:04.000
It's got fluffy, soft sand.
That's usually not the case they want

562
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:07.639
to give you. I think they
want to give you a chance. In

563
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:12.159
general, what I do is is
kind of the opposite of what I do

564
00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:14.599
on a green soap box. It's
in a green side bumpker. You want

565
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:17.719
your nose forward the ball, I
would say a fairry buker. I like

566
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:22.480
to at my nose behind the ball, so more forward in my stance that

567
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:28.400
shaft ever so slightly backward leaning,
so the club will be a sanity by

568
00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:31.079
the time it hits a ball.
Now, if it's a setting, it

569
00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:34.880
means that you're going to catch it
a little bit on the thin side,

570
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:38.599
which is not necessarily a bad thing. So you clip the ball pretty clearly.

571
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:43.360
You might catch rub or two lower
on the base there the sweet spot,

572
00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:45.559
but you're getting the ball up and
out of the bucker with some nice

573
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:52.679
distance on it. I was taught
originally to play the ball more back in

574
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:55.559
my standings out of the bumper.
I'm sairy dockers and I would hit these

575
00:39:55.719 --> 00:40:00.639
lying dry missiles out of the bucker
that could never hold a even if it

576
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:07.159
got so I've reserved those kinds of
shots where if the line's not breaked and

577
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:12.400
I have to hit down eye to
kind of hit more up like a punch

578
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:15.280
type shot a little back and stands. I'll do that, but it's always

579
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:19.960
the second choice. The first choice
is if I could play a little forward

580
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:22.639
my stance and access to the back
of the ball and I can kind of

581
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:25.639
flip it out on the top of
the sand like that. That's what I'll

582
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:29.320
do, and I can get some
beautiful height on because we put the ball

583
00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:31.000
or forward your stance, you can
get some nice trajectory on. I get

584
00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:37.880
opened lip, and so that's how
I'll do it. I also like to

585
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:43.519
play the club based a touch open, which is a shallow animal and he

586
00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:45.559
ti close the club basic. You
think about one thing we didn't talk about,

587
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:50.000
the green side bunkers. When it's
super bary, one of the one

588
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.639
of the opts just can really shut
the face, which digs a lot well.

589
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:57.079
The opposite. Opening the face a
little bit is anti dging, so

590
00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:00.920
it's easier to shallow out your impact. If you have the face touch open.

591
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:04.719
It also can see a little bit. So what I do is I

592
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:08.159
open the club base a touch.
I'll grip down probably quarter inch, just

593
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:12.599
so I don't reach reach ground.
I'm not a big fan of digging my

594
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:16.280
feet into the bucker in Eric ukers, so I don't. I just set

595
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:21.280
up normal. But the ball ford
s tends to open the club base a

596
00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:23.360
little bit and I catch the ball
on the upsot. It's kind of like

597
00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:27.599
what I do out of a fairway
line when I'm trying to hit a super

598
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:30.920
high shot. You look at like
Rory matt Roy hitting towering two irons and

599
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:36.039
to agree he's actually hitting up.
He's not. He does not have a

600
00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:40.199
downward attacking. So what I do
is I have like a very shallow one

601
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:44.880
to two degree upward attacking. My
trapman the boxer would show that I was

602
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:47.400
that I was catching the ball on
the upslore. So the endal is the

603
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:52.760
I lick up ball. The club
ped will be traveling up through impact,

604
00:41:53.039 --> 00:42:00.159
so shallower higher ball flight ball and
landstoftly. I agree that's how play my

605
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:05.760
favorite bunker shots. Mm hm.
And you said they have the ball more

606
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:09.320
forward in your stands. Are you
talking about like driver forward in your stance

607
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:15.199
or forward where you normally lay your
redulate shots? Just be different for everybody

608
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:19.840
to hang out where you're where you're
lows. So I would say, whatever

609
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:22.760
you do in the fairwight and move
the ball a ball a few more forward

610
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:28.480
than that in your stands, keep
that handle, FID. Remember handle forward

611
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:32.320
is a steep bank. Handle back
is a shallowing. You're trying to hit

612
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:37.440
something really low, put the handle
forward and delopping it down into the ground

613
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:39.440
and just hit a little bullet like
under a tree. We're trying to the

614
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:46.800
opposite of that. Your fairy buck
mm hmmm. Is the I have to

615
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:51.239
assume this, but I'm going to
ask anyway, because whenever I assume anything

616
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:57.800
on the on golfight, I'm way
off. Yeah. Right. Is the

617
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:02.159
sand generally the same sand in fairway
bunkers as it is in green side bunkers?

618
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:07.480
I think do they maintain it the
same way? Is it the fluffiness

619
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:09.360
and switch sand in the green and
the fairy bumpers as they do with the

620
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:14.639
green side bumpers not as much.
Not as much. I've found that,

621
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:19.599
like most arry bumpers are they but
it's always a case. I mean,

622
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:22.480
if if you end up with the
with kind of this soft loose sand in

623
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:27.000
a fairy bumper, it's a tough
shot. It's a really tough shot.

624
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:30.519
But if you have wise the buckers, it's paneling being in a waste area

625
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:32.480
or something. It's just it's almost
like if I was going to hit a

626
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:36.599
ball off a cart, you know, I wouldn't want to be hitting down

627
00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:42.239
into the car. I catch that
they at worst at the bottom hopefully is

628
00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:47.440
out a scent. So what is
the the most common myths that you come

629
00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:53.199
across from amateur golfers on how they
approach bunker play. I think I think

630
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:55.559
we've kind of covered them. I
think the big thing is they think they

631
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:59.880
got to get way behind all I'm
talking about green side buckers. They think

632
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:04.159
behind the ball. It's like,
yeah, the two points behind the ball,

633
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:06.239
that's howth the look. That would
be the first one. The other

634
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:09.400
one is said you have to cut
across your bombers. Those things just make

635
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:15.440
the horrible book. I mean it's
like the other thing is I think I

636
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:17.960
don't know if it's a myth,
but I see this a lot just in

637
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:23.480
teaching bunker where people think they have
to go down and get Now if you

638
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:27.440
actually think about it, like they
feel like their body has to go down

639
00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:30.840
and get the ball or dig it
out, and what ends up happening when

640
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:35.760
you do that if you think about
it and say you exaggerate, like you

641
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:37.800
take it up to the top and
then you start lowering your by well the

642
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:42.719
sand, You're going to hit the
sand way early because get you close to

643
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:46.320
the ground. And I see that
as a big I would say fifty percent

644
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:50.639
of the people that I teach bumker
shots are lowering it the tip eight.

645
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:53.719
The people who are struggling at the
book and the people who are really good

646
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:58.880
at the bunker, they're actually pushing
up out of the ground as their arms

647
00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:02.519
are swinging down. You're looking at
me like like you just had an epiphany.

648
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:07.320
Yeah, that was that was huge. So so if you if you

649
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:09.679
did this exercise, if you took
a ball in your trail ant so it's

650
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:14.679
right handecop, you're just gett your
right hand and you felt like you were

651
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:20.159
going to throw the ball at the
ball that's in the bucker as hard as

652
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:22.960
you could, like you were trying
to bounce it off the up the bunker.

653
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:27.599
You would notice that your body would
actually be pushing up as your arm

654
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:30.480
was throwing the ball down. It's
like you're spiking the put you know which,

655
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:34.960
up out of the ground as you're
throwing a ball down. And if

656
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:38.119
you have that, you have that
kind of feel of downward arm action,

657
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:45.280
upward body action. It's a custom
bunker. M Now, I've seen people

658
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:52.159
take their putters into green side bunkers. Oh yeah, is that? Oh

659
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:53.360
yeah? Is that a good?
I mean, what is that called the

660
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:59.559
Texas wedge? Well, it's it
unless there's no lip on the bunker's terrible.

661
00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:05.320
Like yeah, But my dad used
to play his awesome on Saturdays.

662
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:07.559
The guy could not did a bucker
shot go out of the bucker. He

663
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:09.760
just grabbed his putter whack it as
far as he could, hope for the

664
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:13.599
best. And so you know,
one out of every fifty. I used

665
00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:15.320
to caddy for my dad. So
I watched this guy's name was Rudy.

666
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:20.840
He did every side and begin the
bucker. My dad was going to win

667
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:24.800
the all pretty guarantee, unless the
some some lucky thing if anybody could get

668
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:29.519
a good putter out of us out
of a bucker, it was it was

669
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:34.280
Rudy. But there was one time
I think I saw Sevy get out a

670
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:37.039
really weird situation the bucker with the
putter, But I don't even think he

671
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:39.079
used the face of the fire.
I think he used to pull out the

672
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:42.719
putter. I can't remember. I
wish I had a video of that.

673
00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:47.000
But that's just an use of some
major creativity, which was he was from

674
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:52.559
his pores as everybody that was sticking
by Asteros's easy amazing ability to hit short

675
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:57.840
game shots. So I think there
was no way he could hit a regular

676
00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:00.039
bucker shot in the situation, so
he somehow able to fighter app there.

677
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:05.400
But I would say in general,
it's a bad idea. What was the

678
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:09.559
last time he so touring pros putter
out of the fun It seems you don't

679
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:12.920
know how to do it. So
again it goes back to just you know,

680
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:17.159
having the knowledge. But I'd say
that if if you can have proper

681
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:21.119
information, you know, that's what
we're trying to do as coaches. It's

682
00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:23.639
like we need to arm you with
the proper information and then coach you through

683
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:28.800
this. So bumker is not going
to be something that you know keeps you

684
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:30.000
up at that. It's like,
Oh, it's an opportunity for me to

685
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:37.159
have some fun in and I understand
how to do it, and whenever somebody

686
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:39.159
cust me for bucker lesson, I'm
like, I'm about to make this person

687
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:44.480
the happiest person of the world.
Because they usually come in trauma the amount

688
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:46.159
of failure that they are. I'm
like, I'm going to be a hero

689
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:51.760
in about three minutes here. It's
so I mean, I guess it's selfish

690
00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:53.280
on my part, but it's like
I feel this gratification, like, oh,

691
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:57.719
you want to do budcker cool where
I when I was a rookie teacher,

692
00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:00.000
I'm like, the bucker up.
I don't know if I can.

693
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:05.039
That's what I'm thinking. I was
thinking in my head because because the information

694
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:08.159
of how to do it was so
wrong, Uh, and now we know

695
00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:10.639
we don't how to do it.
You're not going to see I'm not going

696
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:15.800
to see that all style bunker shot. Very very few players at the highest

697
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:17.599
level are doing a deal. I'll
do it the new one. You can

698
00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:23.599
create Steve Bangles into the golf bar
clash much simpler, more effective ways to

699
00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:30.280
help create the proper impact and at
the proper distance, so the trauma goes

700
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:31.719
away really quickly everyly, you know, at the end of the lesson,

701
00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:37.000
like we're two minutes in the less
like, well, wow, that's so

702
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:40.320
much easier than what I was doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well

703
00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:46.760
it's just one more instance of you
know, everybody wants consistency, but wait

704
00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:52.159
a minute, there's no two golf
shots alike. So can you be consistent?

705
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:57.280
Think you're going to be consistent if
you treat every shot the same and

706
00:48:57.400 --> 00:49:01.960
you have different situations. It's gat
ring that information before you step into the

707
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:08.039
bunker and assessing all the different variables
that are there before you try to have

708
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:13.199
your normal swing. It's it's not
going to get you anywhere. So I

709
00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:16.280
know you you probably talked to the
THEGIT fifty four ladies piet Lane. They're

710
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:20.599
fantastic, right, and so they're
amazing. It's been a long time and

711
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:22.960
I've been trying for years to get
them back on and there. They travel

712
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:28.239
a lot and they're they're very busy. Yeah right, good. But one

713
00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:30.719
of the things they always like to
say is like, you don't want to

714
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:34.159
become a master of consistency. You
want to become a master of variability,

715
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:38.000
right, because every situation is variable. Right, So so I agree with

716
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:43.519
that. And the thing is,
it's interesting they were they were out here

717
00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:47.440
one time and they asked a little
lot player on the men's team, you

718
00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:54.360
know what what what gives you confidence? And his answer was preparation And I

719
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:58.000
thought that was a great answer.
And there's a lot of things to give

720
00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:01.920
me confidence. Preparation is definitely.
So we go back to what we talked

721
00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:07.079
about earlier. How are you preparing
for being a master of variability? Are

722
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:08.679
you giving yourself the same shot over
and over and over again and you're practicing

723
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:13.480
your bunker shots? Or are you
throwing your balls in random places? To

724
00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:17.239
say? How am I going to
figure out this puzzle? So when I

725
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:21.960
give a bunker lesson, obviously do
the analysis of what's what's going on?

726
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:23.760
Help, you know, give them
the diagnosis if you will, help them

727
00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:28.760
understand what they should be doing.
And then the second part of the bunker

728
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:30.719
lesson, after they figured out how
they did a bunker shot, is okay,

729
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:34.880
Well, now let's let's do different
lives. Let's talk about different lives.

730
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:37.760
So usually I'll give a bunker lesson. The'll be like half hour and

731
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:40.920
the first part we'll get them out
of there, you know, out of

732
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:45.079
the bottom of the well where they
feel like there's no oh, and then

733
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:46.920
they're like, okay, there's hope. Now let's talk about the variability,

734
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:51.039
because yeah, you've just had five
good bunker shots. You think you got

735
00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:54.400
it. Okay, let's let's let's
make it harder, right, just like

736
00:50:54.440 --> 00:51:00.039
I was saying earlier, to make
your practice harder than a gain. Yeah.

737
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:04.519
Yeah, that's what I always loved
about talking with Rick Sessenhaus about his

738
00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:07.119
work with Colin Moricow as a kid. It would be situational golf. It's

739
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:09.239
like, Okay, I'm going to
put a ball. I'm gonna put three

740
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:13.840
balls here. You give me three
different shots to do to get you know

741
00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:15.639
where you want to be. Don't
just hit the same shot three times.

742
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:20.239
I want to see three different shots. Yeah. I love it, love

743
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:22.760
that stuff and love talking to you
too. Man. This has been great.

744
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:27.559
Thank you so much. Pleasured.
Look forward to the next lot.

745
00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:34.039
All right, we'll do it absolutely. I need to give you an update

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twenty twenty five or twenty twenty six. So if you are at all thinking

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we're scheduling a different golf trip that includes

755
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a tour adventure to Portugal, definitely
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756
00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:30.559
bucket list for a long time.
This trip will be nine days with three

757
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rounds of golf and a lot more
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758
00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:39.519
While we'll be on the course,
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759
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760
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coming episodes, but remember this isn't
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