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of Blue Jay's Raptors May Belief. Send Canadian psychic Robert Lindsay Mill. That's
me, Welcome to my side of the Crystal Ball. My guest tonight is
Jim Harrold. So who's Jim Harrold? You say, well, that's what
I said. Just a little while ago I first met Jim My pblicists arranged
for me to be on his podcast the year ago September. It was one
of the first ones I appeared on when when I was coming out of my
semi retirement. I was struck with his manners, his politeness, the respect
that he showed, the obvious intelligence, and the low key way he went
about his work and his interviews. It was a respectful interview and I was
really impressed with the professionalism of it, in fact, quite surprised for a
podcast. A little while later, like just a few weeks ago, I
was booked on his show again, and once again I had the same feelings,
and at the end of the show I asked him would he come on
my side of the crystal ball, and he agreed. I had no idea
his background, And did you know that since two thousand and five up until
now. While first of all, Jim is a pioneer in his field a
paranormal podcasts, and since two thousand and five and up until now, his
shows, his videos, his work have been downloaded sixty million times, I
know sixty millions. So we're going to be talking to Jim throughout the whole
show, and Jim, of course is in the experts chair tonight. Before
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without further ado, let's start off with ww r S. In our last
episode, I in WWRS I was talking about how can you do a reading
for somebody when you're in Toronto and they're they're in Australia. And what I
did is I started off with sharing how I learned how to do those things
before I knew what those things were, what they would be called. I
just simply learned how to do those things. And the way that I learned
how to do it was I just did it. So I came up with
an idea, can I do a reading? If I can do a reading
for somebody in front of me? Could I do a reading for somebody on
the telephone? And I explained how all that happened. And then I thought,
okay, if I can do a reading on the telephone, could I
do a reading on the telephone on the radio for someone? And again the
only way to find out was to go on the radio, be on the
telephone and do a psychic reading. And that's how it happened. So I
still didn't figure out what it was what I was doing. There were no
words in those days that would describe what I was doing. And most people
were astonished by being able to do a psychic reading on how could you do
that? Because everyone and me too in those days was thinking outwardly, So
of course somebody in Australia, you can't tune into them just by looking out.
What you have to do is look inward. Now I didn't realize.
I didn't. I didn't think about going inward. I just did what I
did naturally. I tuned inward, look look, looked inward and tuned it
there now And I didn't even realize that I was doing that. So I
did lots of readings on the telephone, got practiced, and then I did
psychic readings after that on the telephone on the radio, and continue doing it
for a long time. And I stretched that town. So now we come
back to here we are. How do you describe that I tune into?
Well, what do I tune into? I tune into myself. But you
see, I like everything on the planet. I suppose everything in the universe,
but everything on this planet. We're all connected. We're connected with all
the living beings on the planet. We're all intertwined. We're connected with all
the parts of the planet, and in order for us to get to a
part of the planet, we can just simply look inward rather than growing there
physically outward. When two people are in tune connected, you don't have to
be in front of them. You'll use the same technique of doing a reading
or connecting in front of somebody as you'll do looking inward, connecting and being
psychic that way, because they're both the same. I remember my friend George,
remember my mentor from forty plus years ago. In one of his lectures
he started off with in psychic things, there is no distance because there isn't
because you're not outward, you're inward. So that does you know there was
hard to understand. Back in those days. We still had to dial the
telephone. It was still attached to the wall. Is very different than today.
So another way to say, how can you do a reading for somebody
when they're not in front of you? In psychic things, there is no
distance. On the Internet, there is no distance, So we can talk
to somebody in Australia from Toronto, or we can talk to somebody across the
street online unlike zoom video, we can talk to them and It takes the
same amount of time, the same amount of effort to see someone in Australia
as it does in Toronto, and it just once again proves that we are
all connected and we are all one. And when we pray, we go
inward, When we think, when we go inward, when we feel,
we go inward. It all comes from within. And when things come through
us, they first come from then. So how can you do It's ichic
greeting for somebody in Australia, if you're in Toronto, or montrealo New Yorker,
anywhere. Simply go inward, tune into those feelings that you would feel
if they were in front of you. It really is that simple, and
that's what Robert has to say today. It's two thousand and five. Let
imagine, let's the autumn of two thousand and five, seventeen years ago,
and all of a sudden you decide you're going to do a podcast, And
seventeen years later, your podcast, The Paranormal Podcast and Jim Harold's Campfire has
been downloaded sixty million times. Your shows are in the top one percent of
the most successful, the most watched, and the most viewed. Imagine if
I would have done a reading for you in September of two thousand and five,
and I would have said those things to you. What would you have
said? I say, WHOA, are you sure you gotta? You need
to polish the crystal ball a little bit that Now. The thing is is
that now I one minor corrections, more listened to, because my shows are
primarily I understand, I understand you're listened to. Okay, but but I
do some things on YouTube but just it's more of a kind of dabbling than
it's been anything serious. But but I would have been shocked to know that
I've had the opportunity now for ten years in June will be ten years I've
been able to do this full time is my profession. That would have blown
me away. And then in fact the numbers you mentioned, um yeah,
I would have been, as our British friends say, I would have been
gobsmacked to think, yeah, wow, So where did you come up with
this idea? Because you know, I'm thinking back to two thousand and five
and I'm thinking of the computer that I had had like eight gigabytes hard drive.
You know, everyone's gone, whoa, you know, so, um,
how did that happen? Well, I had worked. See, I'd
gone to school for broadcasting, okay, and it was going to be my
primary focus was actually television. And back in the day, really before the
Internet took hold, I started to go out into the work world in the
early nineties. They always said, hey, get call letters on your resume.
If you want to work in radio or television, work at any station.
You can get into sweeping the floor whatever. So I ended up working
at a radio station, and as life often happens to you, I started
looking around and I was a sales assistant. So I so this wasn't like
in WABC AM in downtown New York, Manhattans Cleveland, Cleveland, which is
actually a major is considered a major radio market, but it's not New York.
It's not Louis, Los Angeles, and uh. But I was at
a you know, a classical music station. So it wasn't a top rated
station, but very accomplished in its field though I think maybe the first station
ever on the internet, strangely enough. But anyhow, I started looking around
and it's like, well, the salespeople make this much, and the the
on air people make this much, and yeah, I get to write commercials
and do fun stuff. Maybe I'll just try the sales thing out for a
while. Well, you know, I worked there for a while as a
salesperson, was pretty successful, went to other stations. Not like it,
but I was kind of into it, you know, when you get yeah,
yeah, you're like, I gotta do this. Because by that time,
I picked up a fiance who became a wife. We had two kids.
So in the time frame your talk about two thousand and five, I
am a salesperson for a radio station. Actually he had gone back to that
station as a salesperson for a second time. I had two kids, I
had a mortgage, married, you know, a younger father, and it's
like I couldn't just go off to Paduca and chase my dream of broadcasting.
I was in my thirties at that point, so it's like, this is
never going to happen for me. And then I heard about this thing called
podcasting. I heard a guy who used to be on MTV, Adam Curry.
He started podcasting, and Leo Laporte, who was a great tech journalist.
And because I always love talk radio, I started listening to them online
and I listened to him. It's like, oh my gosh, these guys
are trained, long time broadcasters. I could never do what they do.
But then I heard there were people doing these shows themselves, these podcasts,
and I said, well, I can't do what those guys are doing,
but I can do what these other people are doing. And to your point
about the old computer, I had like a crummy computer. I built myself
a Windows computer. It had, you know, I think I had a
thirty dollars headset, which at that point with my economics, was a stretch
for me. And I just started doing it for fun. And the way
I came up on the idea for the show was, you know, as
a kid, I grew up with in Search of with Leonard Nimoy, and
I always of course listened to Coast to Coast AM with the great late Art
Bell and so forth, and I didn't see hardly anything out there in terms
of I mean, podcasts were brand new. They really kind of started in
two thousand four. I would say this was two thousand and five. Nobody
knew what they were. And I said, you know, I'll do this,
and it'll just be for fun, you know, I'll do a couple
shows, you know, a month, and and I'll just do this for
fun. If I can't be a professional broadcast, or I can do this
for my own enjoyment. Plus, I picked the paranormal because I couldn't really
add anything in politics. You can't do music, sports, I mean,
what am I going to add? What do I know about sports? But
when it comes to the paranormal. In some ways, I believe none of
us are really truly experts. We're all seekers, We're all trying to find
the way. And I was just a guy trying to find his way and
talk to some of the great thinkers. So I've did that show and lo
and behold, people start to listen. This was the paranormal podcast, right,
that's the original. Yeah, we can still do to this day.
That's the one that I've been on. Yeah, and and and it's it's
it's also the thing is is that it's it's also situation where I got to
interview great people who knew a lot more about this stuff, And you know,
it's it's one of those things where I was amazed that I was able
to get these people. It was so early. People would say, like
I got Stanton Friedman, who was really the guy who broke open the Roswell
case. Of the Roswell UFO case. I got people like Lloyd Auerbach,
who was a great parapsychologist. And I was getting these great guests, and
they had no idea what a podcast was. It's like a pod. What
is this? Yeah? Sure? And my professional situation changed. I got
a managerial job, so I had less time to dedicate, but I still
kept a hand in it. And then two thousand and eight, I had
gotten a job. I thought, this is the job. This is going
to be the dream job that's gonna catapult me to whatever management or whatever at
a higher level. And I had been there for three or four months,
and I thought, you know, I don't know that this is going to
be the job that catapults me. This was two thousand and eight, and
I'll never forget. I was sitting at my daughter's tea ball game listening to
another podcast, which I don't know if that makes me a bad dad or
a good dad, but anyway, and I heard somebody had a sponsor,
and I thought to myself, you know, I really ought to try this
because people keep asking I'd been a while since I published a show, and
I said, you know, I really ought to get serious about this.
So I said, tell my wife, for six months, I'm going to
put out a show every single week, and we'll see what happens. At
the end of that six months, I got my first sponsor, and then
more and more people started tuning in. Then I started Jim Harold's Campfire,
which is my most successful podcast. Started that in two thousand and nine.
That's where people call in with their experiences, and honestly, I think that's
where I provide the most value is through that show. And it grew and
it grew, and in twenty twelve, I told my wife, I said,
I think I want to quit my full time job and give this a
go full time, and bless her, she gave me the green light,
and I did it, and neither of us have ever regretted it. The
shows grow. I mean, I'm not to use a name that everybody's familiar
with these days. I'm not Joe Rogan. I'm not to that level.
I'm not independently wealthy, but I make a living for my family, and
I hope that I provide some good information, some good entertainment, some good
thought provoking material for people, because I think so many of us struggle with
these questions. You know, what's the afterlife about? What is this CUFO
thing all about? What are ghosts? I don't know that I've ever come
up any with our heart and fast answers, but I think even having the
conversation is a good thing, and most importantly, having a place where people
to share their experiences pretty much unfiltered. I don't say make it spooky or
make it scary. I say tell me your story and that's it. And
I think that's really important to be authentic to people's experiences and not try to
gin them up or those kind of things. Just tell me what happened to
you, and and they do. And that, which I thought was going
to be a nice little side podcast, has really been the one that's my
most popular. I think resonates with people the most. Jim Hamid Campfire The
Campfire. Now you've also written five books or six, well I'm working on
six. I gotta get six out. But they've been compilations of what I
think are some of the best, most outstanding campfire stories. And what we
do is we basically take the transcriptions of those and we clean them up and
write them in story for them, but we don't embellish them and we don't
add things. And that's what we've done with five of those books. Each
book has about seventy stories in it. Does any stories just come to mind
if I one of the just one of the more fascinating stories, aren't that
you've heard. I think the most fascinating stories a little bit lengthy, but
I think it's worth it. From a listener by the name of Ti up
in Michigan, and she's still a listener, And actually you can see this
on YouTube. Prior to the pandemic, I felt so strongly about her story.
As I'm in Ohio, I traveled up to Michigan with a videographer and
we did a segment with her. And her story has never changed. I
think she probably told this story, oh gosh, had to be at least
ten years ago, if not longer. And her story was is that her
and her friend she was up She's originally from Michigan, but she was visiting
Wisconsin. She went with a friend. They went to see a band.
I know it was kind of in a very kind of rural area, so
they went off. They watched this band. They closed the place, and
they were musicians as well, so they were talking with the band about gigs
indifferent things, because I guess she came up to this area every summer and
they got ready to leave, and it was her and her friend Bob,
and they were driving, and they had about an hour ago till they got
back to the They must have been staying at a campground or something. So
anyway, she gets a few minutes down the road and she says, you
know, I've really got to go to the restroom. And Bob says,
well, you know, it's two thirty eight, three o'clock in the morning.
There's not gonna be anything open. There's always the bushes, right,
and and she said, no, that's how okay, just drive fast.
So they go down the road a little bit and they see this bar,
this roadhouse. I had a big sign said the Roadhouse Saloon. But the
weird thing was, this is after three o'clock in the morning. You know,
bars are supposed to be closed then, but it was wide open.
And the car there were cars in the parking lot. Neon sign you tell
the place was up. And they say, hey, let's not look a
gift horse in the mouth. Let's go in there. So she went in
and she was talking to her friend Bob as they were going and said,
glad I'm here Bob. Bob said, because he's an artist, and said,
they have a mural. I've heard, like an old West mural where
they have cowboys and this saloon scene and I've heard a lot about but I've
never seen it. So anyway, they go in, u t I goes
to the restroom, comes back. Bob has gotten them a couple of beers
and they're they're talking and everybody's looking at them kind of strangely, kind of
like with a blank expression, kind of almost smiling, kind of like this.
I thought, that's very odd. So then they they haven't there's an
old Woodtzer jukebox, a bubbler jukebox with vinyl on it, you know,
the remember them? Yeah, and uh. A gentleman comes up a TI
and he smiles and she said all of his teeth were rotten, and he
asked her to dance, and t I walked with a cane, and she
showed him a cane and said, I you know, I don't dance a
lot, and she said she was thankful she had that came to beg on.
Yeah, So he so he went and he played Chubby checkers. Let's
twist again on the on the jukebox, and that'll come into play a little
bit later. And they're looking around and they're looking at this mural and something
peculiar. They noticed that everybody in the mural looks like a real person.
In the bar, there's kind of a woman who looks like a dance hall
girl to use an expression, olden expression. And there's a woman right there
who looks just like there's a couple of guys at a table playing cards in
the mural, and there's a couple of guys sitting at the table who looked
just like these guys. And they thought, well, you know what,
the artist probably was regular here. These are probably regulars. This is an
homage to them. So anyway, there's these swinging doors in the picture,
like from the old Western movies, if you remember those were the gunslinger walks
in and says, I want to see the sheriff for whoever he wants to
see and shoot. And they were talking about and the place just had a
weird vibe again, the people kind of blankly staring looking at them but not
talking, not engaging, just kind of weird. And they noticed something when
they're looking at the mural at those doors, they noticed like a couple of
misty columns, But they didn't notice that when they came in, and they
go back to talking a little bit more and they look back up and the
columns are there that weren't there before, but now they're more defined. One
is significantly taller than the I think that's weird. Did you see that when
you came in? No, I didn't see that. And then they look
back up and it's developing like a polaroid picture almost if you remember those a
man and a woman and the man is significantly taller than the woman. They
notice the woman has curly hair. TI has curly hair. Then't I know?
The woman has boots on and TI has boots on, And then they
know, getting a shiver down like I don't know why. Then the woman.
Then they notice the woman has a cane and TI has a cane.
They realize that they're seeing themselves develop into the picture, and they said,
okay, let's get out of here. They get up to go out,
and the people start beckoning them back, come back, come back, and
they go, now, that's but that would be weird. But it gets
weirder, so they closed the door. TI says, there's like darkness and
the place is totally closed up. And when they turn around to go back
into the parking lot, they're not cars. There is a car, the
car they came in, and they get out of there. Now it gets
even stranger. TI, being a much braver soul than I am, she
said, you know, nobody believes me. I'm telling my friends and family
about this. They think I'm you know, imagining things. I'm gonna go
back. So I think she got a friend or a sister one night,
and it was it wasn't granted it wasn't two or three o'clock in the morning.
They went to seven or eight at night and they went in and she
saw a woman there tending bar, and she came in started talking to her.
She said, you know, I was here the other night. You
know, it was the joint was jumping. There are a lot of people
here, said man, there was this really good looking, strong, strapping
young bartender behind the bar, muscles, you know, look like I said,
Iowa farm boy, that kind of thing. And the girl said,
I'm sorry, but the only people that bartend here me and my elderly father.
And then T I thought well, that's weird. And then she sees
a jukebox. But the only thing that was weird, Robert, is that
it was not a wurlitz Er jukebox with vinyl in it. It was a
modern jukebox with CDs and oh no, Chubby Checker, No, let's twist
again. And with that, Ti decided to leave, and she left the
mystery the Roadhouse Saloon Forever. Now here's the kicker to that. Even this
place exists, Yes, and I have had people send me photos of it,
and there is a mural. It's a real place. So that's that
was to me that maybe the most memorable campfire story we've ever had. It
really does sound like something out of the Twilight Zone. Some of the and
not all the stories are like that. Most of them, not most of
them are not simpler. But that was so what is Tia? Is that?
Ti? Um? What does she think that was about? Or what
do you think that was about? Well? I think when we talked,
I mean, the only thing we could come was like some kind of portal,
you know, to another reality or something. Had she stayed there,
could she have been stuck with those people? I think that's some speculation she
had I don't know. That was one of my thoughts when I do think
and doing the camp Fire Show, and at this point it's thousands of stories
because we've done I think I just put out um trying to remember the exact
number, the five hundred and forty third episode last week. So every show
has multiple stories. So I've literally heard thousands of stories. But kicking this
around all this time, hearing all these stories, I believe reality is a
lot stranger than we realize sometimes, and that you know, it's like in
the old days, people used to believe in ether or they may have believed
in things that didn't particularly make sense, but they didn't pick up on things
that did make sense. For example, DNA has always existed, but people
back in the day didn't know it existed. So I do believe in a
spiritual world. I believe that is a real thing. But I also think
that we don't quite have the reality of a reality down, if you know
what I'm saying. I think, so, yeah, reality is strange,
and what's really going on in the universe, I think is stranger than we
realize. Do you believe in um other type of worldly beings? So we're
the so we're these people in that bar? Were they worldly beings that were
there at three o'clock in the morning? Were worldly beings meaning being different than
say human, but look like them or look like us'. I've recently interviewed
someone who does deals with fairies and things like that, and I was just
wondering, are they worldly? You know, worldly beings aren't human, they're
a different race, but they could look like us. I'd never thought about
that. I thought more like it was an alternate reality or something that there
had been. You know, I had a story one time of somebody who
was a little kid, um and this is a very simple short story,
but they were across the street from m McDonald's. This is probably twenty years
ago, when she was a little kid and she walks, uh, she's
you know, she's running to the McDonald's because she's a little kid and she
wants a milkshake, and all of a sudden, she runs into this very
kind of taciturn looking man with a top hat that looked like he was out
of time, and he just looked at her like someone you would see in
a movie, kind of like the way I pictured it. If you remember
that old actor John Carradine, you know, have a top hat and looked
just very angry when she ran into him and looked at him, and then
she ran by and looked back and he was gone. So sometimes I wonder
if we like cross with these other realities. Maybe they're human, but if
they're they're from another time or place. And another person call in who has
been a listener to the show for years, who said that basically she was
walking one day and she walked into another reality that was of a past time,
in the same neighborhood and everything, and then walked just as easily back
into this reality. So sometimes I think that weird things happen where they're portals
and things to other times or maybe alternate universes. You know, a lot
of scientists believe that the multiverse is a real thing, so those are possibilities.
But I hate to say this, Robert, I have done thousands of
shows. I mean, if you count all the different shows I do,
it's been over two thousand episodes, probably closer to twenty six hundred episodes.
I don't know, and it's it's annoying, but I think sometimes you have
to live with the mystery of it. It's it's a tough thing. I
don't think anybody knows, even those that do it, I don't think they
really know what they're doing. They're just as you've done all these podcasts,
You've received all this information, all these experiences, and when you put it
all together, you just don't know. Well, one day our essence or
not. One day our essence will will leave this body and then we'll go
to another level, I think. And when we do, then we'll see
and know these things, or we may not go anywhere, because nobody really
knows exactly what's going to happen when we have shuffled off our multi mortal coil.
Right. It's and I realized that a long long time ago, and
you know, I was coming to terms with what God was, and then
I realized one day that, hey, wait a minute, nobody's really come
back as themselves. So we don't know what happens after we die. We
have ideas, and we have what we want and want it to be,
but we really don't know. And it was at that point that I said,
then my guess is just as good as about anybody else's, So I'm
just going to follow what I believe. Right. That makes that makes sense
to me, and I do believe in an afterlife. I mean, if
you look at flipping on my interview or hat my favorite subjects is that near
death experiences and the hardcore skeptics who think tonnely materialistically that our brain is physical
one hundred and our mind is physical, and that when you die, you're
dead and you just have a big dirt nap. Where I think that falls
apart, just on a common sense level, for example, is the near
death experience. Now, people who have the near death experience, as many
of them, report the things like the tunnel of light, the life review,
self worth and so on, which you know, I don't want to
discount. Here's the thing that gets me that says there really is something to
this, not just the hallucinations of a dying brain and dopamine and different chemicals
being released. When somebody flatlines and they quote die and then they come back
and then they say, well, there was a medical team of three people
working on me, and they were doing this, and they were doing this,
and they were doing this. But all the things that experience or reports
seeing happened while they were dead or unconscious. How do they see that?
How do they know that, and those are the kind of things that I
think, you know, just from a common sense point of view, it's
not even faith to me says yes, there is an afterlife, what it
is, I don't know. I mean kind of my hope is. What
I hope for is the great reunion, you know, and have a family
picnic with everybody. Wouldn't that being before? Yeah, that'd be a beautiful
thing, wouldn't that being? But I don't know if that's that's what happens.
Another thing that interests me. I don't know if I quote believe in
it, but it does intrigue me as a reincarnation. If you look at
the work of people done by the late even Ian Stevenson or Jim B.
Tucker from the University of Virginia, some very very compelling cases about past life
experiences and so forth. So that's that's certainly food for thought. So Um,
there's a lot out there, and I'm more convinced than ever that the
other realms exist. I'm less certain of what they are if I kind of
put it in a nutshell. There's a fellow that he's a scientist. He
um is a media guy now, but but but his PhD. And he
got his PhD and studying ATS. But I forget his first name. His
last name is Rifkin, and he appears on a lot of the big radio
stations and he does these little capsule comments. And I was listening to him
the other day and he was talking about an experiment that accidentally happened where somebody
had had died, but they had an eg they were attached to it.
It was just a coincidence. And after this being this person, this human
had died, their body was no longer working their heart and they had gone
into the decay. Their brain continued to process information even though the physical body
was dead. It was the body wasn't getting any oxygen or any feet,
but the brain continued to process and almost like the brain was programmed to process
what had been experienced through its entire life, even though the physical body was
dead. And then they started doing more experiments. Now there's no conclusive results,
but it appears that many times when someone has died, their brain continues
to function even though they're they're they're not breathing and the physical body actually used
the knect but the brain continues to send or or or or it appears like
in the part of the brain where it's doing a thinking and an assessment.
Right. Well, it's interesting to me is the idea that your your brain,
there's the brain in the mind and the colt analogy that I can use
as your computer. Okay, I have a computer here that has its own
capabilities. If it's disconnected from the internet. However, you connected to the
Internet, Um, it really expands and can do so much more. And
I kind of wonder And this is not an original thought. I think Simonson
has talked about this. But the idea that you're and many other people that
you your brain and your universal mind or some people call it the what was
it the spiritual Internet or something I think called it. But but the idea
of the two working concert and that makes a lot of sense to me.
And maybe what happens is and to your point, maybe in that scenario,
is it possible that the contents of your brain are being uploaded to the metaphysical
cloud? Is it worth you know? Well that that is what the implication
was. Yeah, that's what that That is what he was saying. There
just wasn't enough scientific proof for him to say this is exactly what happened.
But he talked about that and it was a way of measuring and UM.
Then one of the other interviewers or or the host of the show said,
what effect would that have if we were UM keeping somebody physically alive just to
harvest their their their organs. Would that interfere at the end life process?
And then that brought in all kinds of topics for an early Monday morning and
they stopped it. But but that was just something. So do you believe
in everything or do you just acknowledge that everything could exist? Or everything?
Probably more the latter. I mean, the thing is is that. And
I used to remember before I started doing this, when I used to listen
to somebody like an art bell or somebody's like, well, how can they
believe in this stuff? And you can't. I don't think you know.
I've had everybody from folks who practice witchcraft, and I'm definitely not a witch,
although that's somebody's right if they want to practice that. Just because I
interview if somebody about something doesn't mean I necessarily it's my personal philosophy, but
my role And a lot of people will ask, well, aren't you a
paranormal investigator? And I'm like, No, I'm not, and I don't
want to be because I lot to have a certain arms link distance from the
subjects, not that I can't be knowledgeable about them and know what the research
says and talk, for example, talking to psychics talking like you. I'm
very interested in what you experience and people like you, but that doesn't mean
I want to be a psychic. My goal is to give a fair hearing
to experiencers, definitely first and foremost, and also authors, experts, psychics.
Give them a fair hearing and let them explain their theories and let the
audience decide what they think on it. As far as my personal beliefs,
you know, I can go down the list. I believe the afterlife is
real. I believe that there's something phenomena cryptids. I definitely believe in underwater
cryptids, something like Bigfoot. A little bit less, I'm a little more
skeptical, but I'm open to hearing other perspectives. Ghosts, Yeah, I
think they're real. Do I think there's good? I think there's good,
and I think there's actually some evil out there too. I think there's both.
Because I've talked to many of my friends more kind of in the new
age community, and they've got some great things to share. But some people
will say, well, there's no such thing as evil because it's just a
lower vibration, and I personally disagree with it. I mean, we're seeing
a lot of evil going on with Russia and mister Putin's doing. Yes,
so evil is around in the world for sure. Um. So it has
to be because because without evil, good cannot exist. Um, there has
to be what what what is one way positive? There has to be negative
without each other, they don't exist. Yeah, that's that's what I think.
That's why I think so. Um you know, for example, my
background, I'm having a little bit of fun with some of the stuff in
the background. It's real, by the way, it said no green screen,
but h but I was. I thought it was real. I looked
at it. But um. But the point being is I have fun with
it. But I do take the stuff very seriously, um, because it
is serious. It's the nature of our existence. So um, you know,
I think it's important stuff. And I think it's just as important as
the stuff that's in the headlines in the newspaper, so to speak. I
think that and we see with UFOs, I mean, now with the US
government coming out and say yeah, there might be something to this. Um,
you know that's even greater implications. Uh, and in scientists more and
more saying well, yeah, there probably is life elsewhere. Um, big
stuff. We're talking about big stuff. Do you have, um guests come
from on from the dark side or uh, those that would be uh worshiping
evil things or um, like like a Satanist or you know, like the
famous one was was, Um. Yeah, yeah, I don't get into
that. That's just a personal choice. I mean, I do believe in
freedom of religion. Uh, you know, as long as you're not harming
other people. But for my shows, I've stayed away from that. Yeah.
And you're just not into that negative side. No, okay, Um,
have you met anyone on that on your shows that say or do miracles?
As you understand, miracles not so much. I'm very careful about medical
things. Um. Well, well, miracles don't have to be medical.
I understand. I understand that I've had people who have experienced miracles. Oh,
yes, have you. I've experienced things where I thought there was divine
intervention. I don't know if I would call them miracles. What would be
the difference then? Between a miracle point. It's a good point, one
of my favorite I'll tell you my favorite miracle story. Lead kind of saved
my life. Um, I'm here in Ohio and we have a big amusement
park called Cedar Point, which is the probably the foremost roller coaster park in
the United States. Anyway, UM, my wife and I and she was
my fiance at the time. This would have been nineteen ninety four. She
wasn't my fiance at the time. She was just my girlfriend at that point.
And we decided where we're going to go with some friends. So we
went. It was a Saturday night. I dropped her back home and it
was like two o'clock in the morning. She said, And we'd just been
dating for three or four months, and she said, you know, I'm
gonna ask. She was living with her folks because she was going to grad
school. She said, I'm gonna ask my dad if you can sleep out
in the couch. I'm like, no, no, I barely know them.
And it's like she's I'm gonna ask, You're gonna fall asleep. So
anyway, I did it and got up in the morning and had a nice
breakfast everything, and I went back to my house I lived in, kind
of I was moving. It was in the process of getting a new place,
actually close to where she lived, but at that time it was in
a little rougher part of town, because that's kind of where I grew up,
was in the rough part of town. And it was this old eighth
frame style house. And I pull up and I get out of my car,
and the guy who lived in the back half house, the landlord's son,
said we gotta talk, because he was standing pointing at the house.
I'm like, oh, hey, hey, how's it going. He's like,
there's been a drive by. I'm like a drive by shooting. Whose
house got shot up? He said, our house got shot up. And
I was not there that night because of a coincidence. And I had one
of those big double door refrigerators that an uncle gave me. Bullet through one
side, bullet through the ketch about the other side. I had a new
microwave that took a direct hit and was a casualty. It was. And
the cop said, what does this guy who lives up here, what does
he do? And they said, well, he works for a classical music
radio station. And it was an a K forty seven and It turns out
that about three o'clock in the morning, some people were looking to hit the
house next door. The house next door was light blue. Our house was
dark blue. Somebody told them to hit the blue house under the amber colored
street lights. Our house looked blue, Their house looked white. They got
the wrong house. Now, I can't say with certainty if I would have
been killed had I been there, But there's a there's a chance. I
mean, what if I had gone down because all the rounds hit downstairs.
I slept on the second floor. But who knows if someone was lying in
wait looking for my motion. Who knows if I got thirsty went downstairs to
the kitchen to get a glass of water. Who knows. All I know
it was a very unusual circumstance for me not to be home that night,
and that was the night that my place was riddled with machine gun fire.
Now again the skeptical say, hey, you were just lucking, just a
coincidence. I think someone somewhere pulled some strings that I wasn't there. And
then there's other possibilities that your girlfriend I'm soon to be wife at the time
UH had had was was influenced to keep you there too. Yep, Um,
there's many possibilities. But but but but someone was looking after Jim that
night. That's sure been looking like a piece of Swiss cheese. And that's
right, it wouldn't have been good and and things like that. And then
see, Robert, here's where it gets tough for me. Why was I
in that case spared but somebody in another case is not? You know,
that's where it gets tough. Well, it's really simple, Jim. Really,
so it wasn't your time. Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's about
that. That's all that's gonna be. Anything else is going to drive you
crazy because I think your number wasn't up. Yeah. I think about those
people that during you know, awful tragedy of nine to eleven, Well their
number was up right, But but you hear about the people who antal appointment.
My kids were running late for school and they were saved and then he
it weren't. It does seem arbitrary, but you're you're right. I think
you're right in the end. I think it's the right read on it.
Well, that is something that I have been doing for about fifty seven years,
so you know, like really basically you can drive yourself crazy trying to
figure out what if and really it is, it's it wasn't their time or
your time, and you had to you your mission was to do what you're
doing, as well as creating your your your family, and that that's the
reason. Yeah, it's one of those things where I gotta tell you it's
it's a mystery. And I think it's a pretty neat job I get to
do. I mean, I love all the tech stuff, I love the
broadcasting part of it. I enjoy the business part of it. But I
mean, you later, on top of this, I get to talk all
day about these mysteries of life. I mean, what a gig. It's
wonderful. I'm very grateful, and that is being a success. Yeah,
yeah, do I you know, am I, Joe Rogan and I because
I hear all these people in podcasting all this one signed a million dollars deal.
This signed a two million dollar deal. But I just keep plugging along
and doing my thing, and my audience, which really are the most important,
people seem to enjoy it. And we grow every year. I think
last year we grew by about twenty percent. I was massive, but you
just you know, i'd kind of like the tortoise, you know, I'm
just slow and steady wins the race. And I really I do. And
it's it's nice to be able to get you know. For many years,
I did things that I didn't enjoy, you know, the sales stuff I
wasn't crazy about. But to be honest with you, that has been invaluable
in the business side of what we do with advertising and different things, you
know, and that makes the fun part possible. If I hadn't had that
experience, then I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing today. I couldn't.
I wouldn't have been qualified to make it work. And I think sometimes you
some people call it God, some people call it the universe. That we
are put in positions to prepare us for things that we don't yet understand.
I agree. And when we're put in those positions, there's no right or
wrong choice, but the decision we make in that situation determines which way our
life goes right. That makes sense to me. That makes sense to me
because again I remember cursing, you know, Cleveland, it gets cold against
snowy. I'm out here selling these ads. I'm my cuffs are what you
know? Oh, this is just a this is ridiculous. I've got my
master's degree. Why am I doing all this? And then I'm like,
I'm like, be glad, be glad you did that, because how many
lessons I learned and they were all pretty much totally transferable to doing this,
and I wouldn't have had any of those without those hard times. So how
do people find you? Where can they get to your podcasts? Where?
How do they get to you? Well, that's that's the beautiful thing.
Because now basically, if you anybody has a phone and any kind of audio
apps Spotify, Apple Podcasts, I Heart Radio, basically any audio app you
have, you can listen. If you don't have a smartphone, you just
you know, you have a computer Jim Harreld dot com. That's Jim h
r Old dot com and you can find all my shows there. And you
know, if you are interested in hearing from experts in the feed like Robert,
check out our shows also experiencers and people just like you who experienced something
strange in their life. It could be ghost counts, could be UFOs or
my favorite what I call head Scratchers as Jim Harold's Campfire. And I hope
everybody gets able to is able to check out those free Jim Harold dot com
and on your favorite audio app. You did it like a pro. You
must have done this before. I have a few times. I am so
grateful for this opportunity. Thank you, Jim, Thank you very much.
Oh, thank you and bless you and all the listeners out there and viewers.
Thank you very much. That was just a fabulous interview today. I'd
like to thank my guest Jim Harrold, for being on and sharing all his
knowledge about podcasts and his awareness of how to do things in such a successful
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