1 00:00:03,399 --> 00:00:10,240 Welcome to you softcore History. Well, welcome back to softcore History. My 2 00:00:10,359 --> 00:00:13,519 name is Jake Goldman. I will be your host for this week. I'm 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,839 enjoyed as always by my two co hosts, Dan Rochester and Rob Fox. 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,559 How's it going, boys, Thanks for having me on your show. Guys, 5 00:00:20,719 --> 00:00:24,160 Oh, you're welcome. Dan pleasure as always, I would have preferred 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:29,160 you stay behind the camera. But god, raccoon. What someone called me 7 00:00:29,199 --> 00:00:32,920 a human raccoon? Oh but I'm clean now, boys, look at this 8 00:00:33,039 --> 00:00:38,240 mustache, this purty sleep part raccoon. Now you I like Jack Mandeville's comment 9 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,840 on our Instagram on your picture, I'm very breed. What did he say? 10 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:47,439 He looked that Dan looked very breathable. Thanks Jack, I honestly I 11 00:00:47,439 --> 00:00:50,320 I after I look at that picture later to see how he was doing, 12 00:00:50,359 --> 00:00:53,719 and I was just like, you do look like an eighties porn star. 13 00:00:53,799 --> 00:00:56,520 And I can't tell if it's gay or straight. It could be both in 14 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,719 the chain right now too. Sorry, this is all visual humor. But 15 00:01:00,079 --> 00:01:03,200 go to the YouTube. Go to the YouTube. Check it. Just take 16 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,439 a look, take a peek. Yeah, but also somebody said I looked 17 00:01:06,439 --> 00:01:08,680 like the actor of the plays kick Ass. And Aaron Tyler Johnson. I 18 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,000 will gladly take that. Yeah, which is weird because I handsome them. 19 00:01:12,159 --> 00:01:17,239 He hasn't always been um like jacked. Yeah, he's had a glow up. 20 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,280 Yeah, it's called getting older, I guess. I mean, well 21 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,200 he's been He was in Age of Ultron, so he's been jacked for a 22 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,480 while. Well. As some of you may not know if you're new to 23 00:01:26,519 --> 00:01:30,000 listening, we are actually a history podcast, but we also have history Patreon 24 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,040 too. You can check us out at patreon dot com slash softcore History. 25 00:01:34,079 --> 00:01:38,319 We're again, we're softcore history soft we already Yeah, we we're history adjacent 26 00:01:38,719 --> 00:01:44,120 audio show. Yeah. We never will do multipart episodes for deeper dives because 27 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,680 we don't do that that. No, we're keeping it within an hour and 28 00:01:47,719 --> 00:01:51,959 a half here. Dan Carlin is our spiritual stepfather. Yeah, he just 29 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,680 that we constantly disappoint. Yeah, he just looks at us and as why 30 00:01:55,959 --> 00:01:57,480 our goals to get sued by him. Yeah, so if you could make 31 00:01:57,519 --> 00:02:02,400 that happen, it's the opposite of get bought just to get a C and 32 00:02:02,519 --> 00:02:06,239 D. Yeah, I have to stop it dissolved. Yeah for him. 33 00:02:06,319 --> 00:02:09,800 The podcast Bear hug Us and then he would do a sixteen hour episode on 34 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,520 the legal case against us. Yeah, I need to be so good. 35 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:19,000 That's where these assholes got it wrong. Be a damn good show. But 36 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,719 anyway, Yeah, so check us out on patreon dot com slash softcore History. 37 00:02:22,759 --> 00:02:27,680 We do two extra episodes a week for just five dollars a month ad 38 00:02:27,719 --> 00:02:30,759 free. We've got a great one this week. Oh, I can't wait. 39 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,120 I can't wait to hear it. I'm so excited to do it. 40 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:37,919 Well, today we actually got a topic. We have a discord too for 41 00:02:38,039 --> 00:02:40,479 Patreon members, but we got a little topic that was brought up in there 42 00:02:40,479 --> 00:02:44,319 and I decided to take it and run with it. Um, it's about 43 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,120 the Johnstown flood. Wow, way to kind of mail it in. Somebody 44 00:02:47,159 --> 00:02:57,080 hasn't done that before last week? What from the discord? Such lazy pieces 45 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,520 of shit. I used chat gpt for my jobbing this week. All right, 46 00:03:00,759 --> 00:03:04,960 you just listen. We're given more value to the Patreon members because it 47 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,400 gets a kind of recommend what we do. Yeah, I'm like, hey, 48 00:03:07,479 --> 00:03:12,800 chat JPT, write this history in the style of an asshole who's lazy 49 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,919 and doesn't care about the topic. What Rob did was he fed all the 50 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,960 frat romance novels into it beforehand, and he's like writing this style. It's 51 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,639 like Greg woke up and came all over. I tried to ask it once 52 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,680 to write a blog in the style of total frat movement. It wouldn't because 53 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,840 it's an inappropriate website. That's funny. Yeah, there are limitations with AI 54 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,639 for now, it's yeah, for now, the cool AI, the ones 55 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,520 that the actual companies have no limitations. But for us, for the peasants, 56 00:03:42,719 --> 00:03:47,879 for us normis we have to deal with a morally right artificial intelligence that 57 00:03:47,879 --> 00:03:53,639 doesn't seem it's dumb. Us the full, give us the full. There's 58 00:03:53,159 --> 00:03:57,560 there's legitimate there's like I'm sure AI behind the scenes where they're like like working 59 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,360 on stocks and they're like, okay, maximize profit and minimize death. And 60 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,759 then they see that, like, you know, minimize the death that would 61 00:04:02,759 --> 00:04:06,439 be caused from this profit, and I was like all right, and they 62 00:04:06,439 --> 00:04:12,280 give them a number and they're like, can I see it without minimizing death? 63 00:04:12,479 --> 00:04:16,199 Increase? Can you increase death by ten percent? Yeah? Do you 64 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,720 think black Rock has these fucking Rock's probably been doing this for like ten years 65 00:04:20,759 --> 00:04:24,160 already too. Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's the thing. Also, 66 00:04:24,199 --> 00:04:28,040 like machine learning has been around forever or like not forever, but you know 67 00:04:28,319 --> 00:04:31,360 they've been doing this algorithms for gambling in Vegas, has it? Yeah, 68 00:04:31,399 --> 00:04:36,439 but Hustle Vegas probably invented AI thirty years ago for gambling. That's how they 69 00:04:36,439 --> 00:04:42,000 set all the lots. Yeah, so rich people, uh, wondering what 70 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,639 they can get away with while still minimizing death is actually gonna be a topic 71 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,240 today, oh twa yeah. Oh but we'll get into it. We'll get 72 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,240 into it. So just for everyone that doesn't do Also, the reason I 73 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:56,879 picked this topic, by the way, I have I have family from Johnstown. 74 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,879 I've been to Johnstown twice. Is this in Nevada or something? Johnston, 75 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,600 Pennsylvania? Okay, the Johnstound flood, I don't know. You don't 76 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,680 know what the Johnstound flood is. No, you're gonna educate me on it. 77 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,639 You know what the Johnsun flood. Of course, I know what the 78 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:11,839 Johnstown flood is. Well, y'all remember the flood of ninety three. No, 79 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,680 we're going further back. I know. I'm just saying you probably don't 80 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,160 remember the Mississippi River flooded massively in nineteen ninety three. No one cares, 81 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,839 no, one cares, No, it is Jake. So it could have 82 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,040 been in like two thousand and five. Yes, you never know. There 83 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,240 were more recent Johnstone floods. John sounds a pretty flooded place, but we'll 84 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,000 get into it. So the city of Johnston, Pennsylvania, was founded in 85 00:05:31,079 --> 00:05:36,800 eighteen hundred by Swiss immigrant Joseph Johns, where Stoney Creek and the Little Connama 86 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:42,079 Rivers joined to form the Connama River. The location essentially on the river. 87 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:47,680 Now, I'm gonna need you to talk in a mid Atlantic Philadelphia slash. 88 00:05:47,759 --> 00:05:51,360 The water is coming, We're all gonna drone. These are It's not either 89 00:05:51,519 --> 00:05:57,240 same thing. It's like still mid Atlantic, kind of Midwest classic mid Atlantic 90 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,560 is my announcer of voice. Oh no, the wall it's coming. We're 91 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,639 all gonna flooding, We're all gonna die. Run. That is the mid 92 00:06:03,639 --> 00:06:08,000 Atlantic. No, it's more of a you have to be complaining the entire 93 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,639 time. You got to sound like it's kind of like an animal. It's 94 00:06:11,639 --> 00:06:14,959 like Mayor of Eastown a little bit. Okay, Mayor of Eastown is like 95 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,759 dollar count. We were talking about us, but it's just slightly different. 96 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:24,480 They just say weirder shit. Yeah, yeah, I would say so. 97 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,040 I'm always like perplexed by the accent. When I get to Pittsburgh, I'm 98 00:06:28,079 --> 00:06:30,480 like, oh, yeah, that's right. You guys talk like this, 99 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:35,120 and you forget and then you start finding yourself talking like them after a couple 100 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,800 of days, and you're like, how does this happen? I have no 101 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,560 problems with Pittsburgh. I don't either. I like that side of the state. 102 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,639 Yeah, but a lot of people don't know. Most of Pennsylvania is 103 00:06:44,759 --> 00:06:51,240 just fucking redneck as hell. Pennsylvania gets let so off the hook for how 104 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,759 fucking white trash it is. It's right next to West Virginia, it's right 105 00:06:55,879 --> 00:06:57,680 part of it. But it's also I mean, like it really is. 106 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,720 Like there's Philly and that's great. Really it's just Phlly, let's not theok. 107 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,040 I don't even think Pittsburgh like helps that much because it's a huge fucking 108 00:07:04,079 --> 00:07:08,920 state. It's huge, mostly woods. It's like seven hour drive, yeah 109 00:07:08,959 --> 00:07:11,800 to go across it, and it's not it's you know, it's not like 110 00:07:11,959 --> 00:07:15,639 uh like uh like thin either. Yea, Like north to south probably the 111 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:21,360 Keystone State run north to south west four hours probably for the most part, 112 00:07:21,519 --> 00:07:26,040 I don't know, because Philly is in New York is probably two two and 113 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,879 a half hours. The point being, there is so much empty, fucking 114 00:07:30,519 --> 00:07:35,120 nothingness in Pennsylvania. It's beautiful too. I will say that it's mountains Poconos, 115 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,160 right, Poconos, that's it. You gotta hit these azos, right, 116 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,959 I'll hit the Poconos. Are you going down the shore? Uh? 117 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,959 God? Going down to wild Wood might hit a wah wah against my hoogies 118 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,160 before we Yeah, there it is. That's a that's an east side Pennsylvania 119 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,600 sound. Um yeah, No, I mean john Sound is a beautiful place. 120 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,319 Yeah, the west, you're going to go to sheets. I just 121 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,959 take exception as a Missourian because everyone hears Missouri and they're like, oh, 122 00:07:58,959 --> 00:08:03,360 fuck redneck. And then but like Pennsylvania gross state, like largely very gross. 123 00:08:03,439 --> 00:08:07,199 I mean, to be fair, we're just a big old redneck planet 124 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:13,879 floating through space. Gross state. You mean the region of freedom, That's 125 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,040 where our democracy started. Again, Philadelphia's history does a lot of heavy lifting 126 00:08:18,079 --> 00:08:22,279 on masking what that state really is. So do we as a country. 127 00:08:24,199 --> 00:08:28,000 We have a location of Johnstown essentially on the river allowed to become a prime 128 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,879 stop for industrial development and began to prosper with the building of the Pennsylvania Mainline 129 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:37,080 Canal in eighteen thirty six and the construction of the Pennsylvania Railroad and the Cambria 130 00:08:37,159 --> 00:08:41,639 Iron Works in eighteen fifties. However, while Johnstown was built in a place 131 00:08:41,639 --> 00:08:45,960 where industry could flourish, the natural features made it a prime location for flooding 132 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:50,279 in rapid industrially industrialization at an additional risks. Now you land on the railroad 133 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,679 spot in monopoly, you buying that property, buy everything. I land on 134 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,799 a monopoly. You just shoot first, ask questions later. Yeah, that's 135 00:08:58,799 --> 00:09:03,480 bye bye, bye bye. That's the best strategy monopoly. Yeah, but 136 00:09:03,519 --> 00:09:07,919 then you get down bad stuff for my half price lending, you just keep 137 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,039 leasing. Well, you're gonna steal the money as well. Yet, isn't 138 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:15,039 real if you never have to be you gotta be the banker and then just 139 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,519 take hunters when no one's looking. Yeah, and that should be legal in 140 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,720 monopoly. There is where it's like you have to catch people. That's awesome. 141 00:09:22,799 --> 00:09:26,000 I'm pretty sure there is a rule where it's like it's on you. 142 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,440 You're supposed to be a robber, baron yeah, the game is called Monopoly. 143 00:09:28,759 --> 00:09:33,960 Oh I've never played it. You've never played Monopoly? No, you're 144 00:09:35,039 --> 00:09:41,720 more sorry Yeah yeah sorry uh nowadays right hey Life. Yeah, it wasn't 145 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:46,639 a big fan of life. Life is stupid. I'd rather eat the cereal 146 00:09:46,759 --> 00:09:50,960 Life not a strategy game at all. That was a big risk guy, 147 00:09:52,039 --> 00:09:54,879 of course. And then more call if you want to get to more and 148 00:09:54,919 --> 00:09:56,919 the like, dive into nerd shit access and allies. I mean, my 149 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,600 dad my brother would play that a lot when I was a kid. But 150 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,679 that's like at a board game that takes like days or weeks depending on it. 151 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,559 Just kind of sounds like dipping your toe into dungeons and dragons, but 152 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,080 you didn't want to fully dive in. Yeah, it's like Dungeons and dragons. 153 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:16,360 But for history, there's it more like Warhammer. It's not like war 154 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:20,399 Hammer. What is Warhammer? Everyone? I see it online and I I 155 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,919 fucking mentally check out the moment I see an orc like, I'm just like 156 00:10:24,039 --> 00:10:28,279 no, pass Yeah, the Rings, I will I do like Lord of 157 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,759 the Rings, like those movies. But if it's like a game or something 158 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,360 like a military game, but then there's like elves and him, just like 159 00:10:35,399 --> 00:10:39,279 pass. I'm out. I'm gonna just leave that alone. Rob doesn't like 160 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,639 fun. The high steep hills of the Narrowconama Valley and the Alleghany Mountains to 161 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:48,559 the east, the Alleghany Alleghany Mountains. Alleghany And shout out to our boy 162 00:10:48,639 --> 00:10:50,879 that found those kids from having a dream that was in the Alleghany Mountains. 163 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:56,600 Yeah you remember that. Yeah. Uh. That kept the development of john 164 00:10:56,639 --> 00:11:00,480 Sound close to the river front because there was a geographical barrier for them to 165 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:05,440 developed outward, meaning even without any man made influence, the areas surrounding the 166 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,279 city is still prone to flooding due to its location on the rivers, whose 167 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:13,080 upstream watersheds include an extensive drainage basin of the Allegheny Plateau. Is this the 168 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:18,519 situation like Houston has where they're flooding keeps getting worse because they keep pouring, 169 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,720 like keep concreting over like marshlands and ship so there's nothing to retain the water. 170 00:11:24,159 --> 00:11:28,360 Yeah, it becomes a soup. You nailed it. Yeah, even 171 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,080 more so. The Konama River, immediately downstream of Johnstown is hemmed in by 172 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:35,279 steep mountain sides for about ten miles. A roadside plaque alongside. Pennsylvania wrote 173 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,120 fifty six, which follows this river proclaims that this stretch of the valley is 174 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,559 the deepest river gorge in North America east of the Rocky Mountains. This is 175 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:48,480 all very important. It's a super deep river. It's it's very deep. 176 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,759 Fuck that this place is not that important, so let's just get that out 177 00:11:52,799 --> 00:11:58,919 of the way. Actually was very important for steel production, so developers artificial 178 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:05,000 narrowing of the riverbed to maximize early industries left the city even more flood prone. 179 00:12:05,399 --> 00:12:09,080 So basically, a slag from the iron furnaces of the steel mills in 180 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:13,039 the area was dumped along the river to create more land for building. They 181 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:20,360 created artificial extended riverbeds basically and narrowed the waterways little tributaries. Yeah. By 182 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,440 eighteen eighty nine, Johnstown's industries had attracted numerous Welsh and German immigrants. With 183 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,039 a population of about thirty thousand, it was a growing industrial community known for 184 00:12:28,039 --> 00:12:31,480 the quality of its steel. But just ten years before that, some important 185 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,240 American power players would create even more risk for the small yet booming town. 186 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:41,879 Andrew Carnegie dippest toe in this fucking place. Yet you know it your boy 187 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,080 above the city. The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania built the South Fork Dam between eighteen 188 00:12:46,159 --> 00:12:50,879 thirty eight and eighteen fifty three as part of a cross state canal system, 189 00:12:50,919 --> 00:12:56,360 and Johnstown was the eastern tip eastern tip of the Western Division canal, supplied 190 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,679 with water by Lake Connama, the reservoir behind the dam. Over time, 191 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:05,080 as railroads became the main form of transportation over canal barge transport, the Pennsylvania 192 00:13:05,279 --> 00:13:09,159 the Pennsylvana sorry, the State of Pennsylvania abandoned the canal and sold it to 193 00:13:09,159 --> 00:13:13,039 the Pennsylvania Railroad. The dam and lake were part of the purchase, and 194 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:18,320 the railroads sold those to a private interest group. Yeah, railroads really fucked 195 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:24,840 over any city that um was like booming from water transport. Yeah, like 196 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,759 it happened to like Saint Louis, Memphis, New Orleans, everywhere, every 197 00:13:26,799 --> 00:13:30,919 any city. And actually those cities were still so big that they persisted. 198 00:13:31,639 --> 00:13:35,240 Why you have to pivot, Like Vanderbilt sold all of the steamships and was 199 00:13:35,279 --> 00:13:39,879 like railroads, Yep, that's it. Well, the city's camp really pivot 200 00:13:39,919 --> 00:13:41,960 and that's actually they're just there. Yeah. What's really funny is so like 201 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,879 obviously those major cities they were fine because they weren't fine, but they still 202 00:13:46,919 --> 00:13:48,879 persisted because they were so big. But there is just up and down the 203 00:13:48,919 --> 00:13:54,840 Mississippi River dotted like it's essentially the same as like russ Belt towns when the 204 00:13:54,879 --> 00:13:58,320 seal went away, when the steel or whatever, when the railroad went away, 205 00:13:58,399 --> 00:14:01,559 and like all the cities out west that just are dead now. Like 206 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:07,519 if you drive through like the western United States States to like where big railroad 207 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,559 lines used to run, you'll just find these like towns with like two hundred 208 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,720 people and you're like, how the fuck did you get here? Oh? 209 00:14:11,759 --> 00:14:15,120 Yeah, I mean it's you. You go up and down the mississy even 210 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,039 even like Hannibal, Missouri, like where Mark Twain is from. Like you 211 00:14:18,159 --> 00:14:20,120 like, why does this town exist? You're like, well, there's not 212 00:14:20,159 --> 00:14:24,879 a reason for it to exist now per se. But at one point I 213 00:14:24,879 --> 00:14:28,840 would argue, there's a lot of those towns in this country. We need 214 00:14:28,879 --> 00:14:31,480 to start getting rid of towns. Yeah, well we kind of are. 215 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,840 I mean, people just move out of them. Get rid of cities though, 216 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,879 I'm saying put some cities on the chopping block. Oh fulls full blown 217 00:14:37,919 --> 00:14:39,399 cities. Yeah, all right, who you chopping that's a great question. 218 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:46,080 Obviously we're an anti Denver podcast where they're about to win a second championship in 219 00:14:46,159 --> 00:14:48,519 like just as many years. Yeah, with the Avs and then the Nugs. 220 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,679 Yeah, they don't deserve that. What have they ever done? Um, 221 00:14:52,759 --> 00:14:56,399 honestly, I would put Austin on the chopping block. This city is 222 00:14:56,679 --> 00:15:01,759 we could do without it. It doesn't deserve what it's been given. It 223 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,080 doesn't really make a lot of sense. It doesn't deserve comedy. There's no 224 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,440 there's no like geographical reason it's this. There's no geographical reason. People were 225 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,320 just like this just became like some weird city in the seventies and eighties or 226 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:18,000 something. Then people with some people just kept moving here. Yeah, yeah 227 00:15:18,159 --> 00:15:20,919 vibes. And it was also like all the other Texas cities were kind of 228 00:15:20,919 --> 00:15:28,120 like normy and then this city was like a weird like hippie libertarian spot kind 229 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,200 of and people just vibe with that. Yeah, I guess so. I 230 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,679 mean, but yeah, there is no like really geographical resource here, Like 231 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,039 we have a river quote unquote, but it's really just a damned river. 232 00:15:39,399 --> 00:15:43,320 It's not like it was doing like anything. Obviously, they were taking Saint 233 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,960 Louis off the map. How fuck off Kansas Cities while that whole steak can 234 00:15:46,039 --> 00:15:50,799 just go. Yeah you didn't make that a big lake. That'd be great, 235 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,159 just a big center, like a big old pe hole and then just 236 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,559 flood Saint Louis. Make a lake. It's big lake Lake Missouri. The 237 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:03,799 arch is underneath and you can kind of got the arch is actually just poking 238 00:16:03,799 --> 00:16:06,639 out of the top and you can jump off and sit on the top of 239 00:16:06,639 --> 00:16:08,080 the arch. Yeah, kind of kick your legs and then you drop into 240 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,879 the like a big sand bar. Yeah. Yeah, it's the like the 241 00:16:11,879 --> 00:16:15,519 sickest hang spottle like Lake Missouri. I'm down with that. Yeah, I 242 00:16:15,519 --> 00:16:17,519 think so too. You would have a current too, would be so big 243 00:16:17,559 --> 00:16:21,200 we could probably get rid of the most of the Pacific Northwest. I would 244 00:16:21,279 --> 00:16:23,080 keep set. We can keep one of them because they're they're very similar. 245 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,720 So like Seattle, Portland, Oh take Seattle, keep Seattle. Fuck Portland. 246 00:16:26,759 --> 00:16:30,600 Portland can go to welland's got a great you know, food and beer 247 00:16:30,639 --> 00:16:33,559 scene, so do Seattle. Yeah, it's the same. It's the same, 248 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,759 the same Seattle on the Bay though, and you have Vashon. Let's 249 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,879 uh, maybe they can combine. How Also, Seattle isn't Seattle like right 250 00:16:41,879 --> 00:16:45,440 next to Vancouver. Uh, it's close. Yeah, it's making a super 251 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:51,159 city, just making a mega city within w Yeah, we're gonna take Vancouver, 252 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:52,840 obvious. Yes, all right, we get rid of Portland, we 253 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,200 conquer Vancouver. Yeah, and then we make super Seattle. Yeah, and 254 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:03,240 we'd bring back the Sonics. Let's get rid of Shreveport, Louisiana. That's 255 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,880 not even big enough to warrant. It doesn't matter. I want it gone. 256 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,880 All right, we're making calls. That's my call. Next one Gainesville 257 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:19,440 later, No pass College Park, Yeah, no streport. This just becomes 258 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,039 an episode of people that have wronged us. The entire city of Shreveport is 259 00:17:23,039 --> 00:17:26,880 one. Uh anyway, Yeah, So a group of power players in Pennsylvania 260 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:33,680 decide to buy the reservoir and reservoir there's a war, thereser war. So 261 00:17:33,799 --> 00:17:38,440 yeah, a group of Pittsburgh speculators purchased the abandoned reservoir and converted it into 262 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:45,119 a private resort lake for their wealthy associates. SI a kind of frat like. 263 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,759 Well, they made like a little Lake Tahoe kind of. Yeah. 264 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:52,799 Many were connected through business and social links to Carnegie Steele, and in eighteen 265 00:17:52,839 --> 00:17:59,640 seventy nine they created the South Fork Fishing Club. Amongst its members included Andrew 266 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,519 Carney Andrew Mellon, who I'm sure you guys know why those two are in 267 00:18:03,599 --> 00:18:07,039 order, but for those that don't, he's the former US Secretary of Treasury, 268 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,400 a huge banker and an industrialist. And Henry Clay Frick who helped form 269 00:18:11,519 --> 00:18:17,880 US Steel, the reading company, and was a chairman of Carnegie Steel as 270 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,720 well. So these are big wigs, big shots. Well also Carnegie Mellon 271 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:26,160 yea carnegi Yeah what you never heard of? It? Never heard of? 272 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,400 It? Pretty pretty important. One. Where is it, um, Pittsburgh? 273 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,599 I think or it's in Pennsylvania. I think it is. It is 274 00:18:33,759 --> 00:18:36,920 Pittsburgh. It would I would imagine being Pittsburgh. Yeah, okay. For 275 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,640 some reason, I keep thinking it's in New York. Now Carnegie Mellon, 276 00:18:40,039 --> 00:18:41,039 Well, you know, it makes sense a little bit, Carnegie Hall, 277 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:45,319 stuff like that. But I believe Carnegie Melton is in Pittsburgh. It is, 278 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,279 it is for sure. Um. The club was designed to give the 279 00:18:48,279 --> 00:18:52,440 most powerful men in Pennsylvania a quiet retreat, a place to enjoy the magnificent 280 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:57,680 wealth they had accumulated ban horse, bang Horse amongst the pines to enjoy the 281 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:03,079 wealth. They really smokes guards. That's it in bang Horse amongst the Pines. 282 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:07,000 I think I don't think they were banging horse, dude. I think 283 00:19:07,039 --> 00:19:11,640 they were just like, how can we aggregate more wealth? That? Yeah, 284 00:19:11,799 --> 00:19:14,440 business was a sport to them. Yeah, that's It's not even about 285 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,000 their advice. It's not money, it's points. Those are points, like 286 00:19:18,319 --> 00:19:22,039 I just need more points. Isn't Carnegie technically the richest person of all time? 287 00:19:22,519 --> 00:19:26,799 Uh? He's up there, man. It would be Octavian Carnegie, 288 00:19:26,799 --> 00:19:32,400 I believe is the richest American of all Okay, and that state is cheating 289 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:37,319 though kind of, but I mean like Octavian also, it wasn't like really 290 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,319 like a hood of state. He was like the emperor like he that's literally 291 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,400 ahead of state. But like a better Roman example would be crass Us or 292 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,680 crash Us or whatever you say. That guy, that guy who was the 293 00:19:48,799 --> 00:19:52,279 richest dude in Roman history. And they poured like a Parthians killed him by 294 00:19:52,279 --> 00:19:55,519 pouring gold down his throat. The African king had should done of gold. 295 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,359 Yeah, yeah, he devalued all the golden He just tossed it out and 296 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,240 needed Yeah, but as I had a state, I don't. I just 297 00:20:02,279 --> 00:20:03,839 don't know that I want to count heads of state because that would mean but 298 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,920 King Vladimir Putin is like the richest guy in the world right now, right, 299 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:14,880 but like a king. I think a non democratically elected head of state 300 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,400 counts still like someone that's just a king. But your bank is the treasury 301 00:20:18,839 --> 00:20:23,000 if you're if you're checking account as your country's treasury. Yeah, you just 302 00:20:23,079 --> 00:20:26,839 own a country. I don't know either way. So Carnegie, I mean, 303 00:20:26,839 --> 00:20:30,000 I don't even know if it would be Carnegie, though I think it 304 00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:33,680 is Carnegie, see the Carnegie Rockefeller of all time, even for Americans for 305 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,839 sure, for a single person. But do you think it's more than the 306 00:20:36,839 --> 00:20:41,240 Saudi family now, No, it might be close. Anyway. We can 307 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,160 get into that later. That's probably another episode. NBS is just rolling in 308 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,920 it right now. Yeah. Yeah, So they bought this reservoir to you 309 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,559 know, as Rob said, bang horse and the pines or you know, 310 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,039 just aggregate their wealth whatever. They had to make some changes to the reservoir 311 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,920 for the Ritzy Fishing resort to be exactly how they needed it to be. 312 00:21:00,599 --> 00:21:03,200 Development included lowering the dam to make it stop wide enough to hold a road 313 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:08,160 and putting a fish screen in the spillway. Workers lowered the dam, which 314 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,359 I don't want an eye sore. Bring that down just a little, just 315 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:17,039 just three feet. They brought it down from seventy the dam, but it's 316 00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:19,960 still above water level. Actually, uh rod might be right about this, 317 00:21:21,039 --> 00:21:25,039 because they made it was seventy two feet. They made it sixty nine feet 318 00:21:25,079 --> 00:21:27,240 tall. They wait, right, they were they knew what they were doing. 319 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:32,720 Nice. Even worse, someone tells you who they are. Believe them. 320 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,799 That's the dumbest shit. I hate that, right, because people say 321 00:21:36,839 --> 00:21:38,920 that, But then it's that the person's not actually telling them anything. They're 322 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,640 just interpreting it. And they're being like like they interpret what someone does or 323 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,799 says how they want to interpret it, and they're like, they just told 324 00:21:45,839 --> 00:21:48,440 me who they are. Yeah, No GP Congressman has ever gotten up. 325 00:21:48,839 --> 00:21:52,440 I'm sure maybe one or two has it and been like I'm a Nazi. 326 00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:56,759 It's like yeah in that case, sure, like, but it's never that 327 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:03,599 right, yeah, um or the other way like ieted it. Yeah, 328 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,000 even worse. A system of relief pipes and valves a feature of the original 329 00:22:07,079 --> 00:22:10,720 dam, which had been previously sold off for scrap, was not replaced by 330 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,599 the fishing clubs, so the club had no way of lowering the water level 331 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:17,119 in the lake in case of an emergency. That lake, Lake Conoma, 332 00:22:17,279 --> 00:22:19,759 was four hundred and fifty feet in elevation above the town of Johnstown. The 333 00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:23,759 lake was about two miles long, one mile wide, and sixty feet deep 334 00:22:23,839 --> 00:22:26,640 near the dam, so they only had a gap of about nine feet with 335 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:33,200 that. Damn all God for the water in eighteen eighty nine, a combination 336 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,359 of nature's will, industrial modification, and the decision of these who benefited from 337 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:44,920 that will you fucking atheist? Sure will God's planned? Yeah, you fuck. 338 00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:49,079 We control the weather though, well now because we control the weather, 339 00:22:49,839 --> 00:22:56,160 always have. It's funny that you think you have power. M I'll be 340 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,640 writing, Hollywood. Yeah, you're like a fucking janitor at Universal celebrating a 341 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:06,160 big opening. You're gonna knock a dude that cleans other people's messes in a 342 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:12,119 happy place, especially the Blue Man Group. Imagine that every night to clean 343 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:18,720 up marshmallows and damn it, yeah you get us a new room. It's 344 00:23:18,759 --> 00:23:22,160 just shot. You're just shot. Backing until fun. Just do this over 345 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,119 a giant great, can we have a tarp please? Oh my god, 346 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:32,599 I mean I feel bad for any stadium cleaner, Oh dude, like cleaning 347 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:37,559 up after like a baseball game, especially because that's the that's the messiest foods. 348 00:23:37,599 --> 00:23:40,759 Oh no, some of the baseball stadiums the floor just drops out. 349 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:47,960 I do that because that'd be smart. The trash just goes into a giant 350 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,160 shoot down to the core of the earth. Yeah, that would be smart. 351 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,119 It just floats there. They should do that, and then it'd be 352 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,839 a funny terrorist attack to flip the shoot in the middle of the game. 353 00:23:57,039 --> 00:24:02,559 And yeah, China's digging a hole right now to the center of the earth. 354 00:24:02,759 --> 00:24:04,400 They are digging a deep oah. You know why they're trying to get 355 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,640 to us, trying to get to Vegas. Yeah, they'll never. We'll 356 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,720 never, we never. We never suspect him to come that way. It's 357 00:24:10,759 --> 00:24:15,079 Ocean's fourteen. It's Danny Ocean over there trying to get into the Balaccio from 358 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,480 China. Da dude, it's a long game. He's a smart fella. 359 00:24:19,759 --> 00:24:22,160 You know, A couple of countries this is in the side, A couple 360 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,920 of countries have. You don't have to announce that it's in the side, 361 00:24:26,039 --> 00:24:26,960 but I want to dive in on it for a second. A lot of 362 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:32,759 countries have started like we're gonna just keep digging. Russia did one, but 363 00:24:32,839 --> 00:24:37,119 stopped. They always stopped. Japan's doing one where I feel like they should. 364 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,599 They don't have enough room where Russia was doing it in like Siberia, 365 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,400 that's the perfect pace to it. China, I assume, is doing it 366 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,960 where wagers used to live or something, or where they currently using them use 367 00:24:48,079 --> 00:24:51,839 them. Yes, it's just the weaker hole. Actually, it's where they 368 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:57,319 feel like you can't say that. What else? Yeah, but uh yeah, 369 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,119 like Japan, like they don't have the realist No, no, no, 370 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:06,079 they're they're a precision. Uh, there're a precision people. It's a 371 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,920 pencil size. It's just like the size of a quarter. Yeah. And 372 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,720 then one guy just goes over the hole and looks at He's like, further, 373 00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:15,319 where would our hole be? I guess our whole would be Saint Louis. 374 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,839 We've already discussed this. It's a lake, it's a fucking hole. 375 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,559 But I guess it would just be New Mexico. We've already ain't done enough 376 00:25:21,559 --> 00:25:23,079 tests there. That's where we did the bomb. It might as well, 377 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,000 well that's white sands, right yeah. So yeah, by the way, 378 00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:33,759 boys, we're gonna go see Oppenheimer together, right, we should live watching 379 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:40,480 bring a fucking smartphone in on Instagram, Yo, yo, just doing night 380 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:47,000 Yeah right up front podcast. Look, Oh my god, you're a great 381 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,279 way to get a chart up. What for the back Yeah, drop it. 382 00:25:51,319 --> 00:25:55,279 You kicked out of Almo Drafthouse in five minutes, all right, So 383 00:25:55,319 --> 00:25:59,000 yeah, all that shit that was going on not great conditions for a city 384 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,200 that already floods right on a May twenty eight, just like Houston. By 385 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,720 the way, yes it is. They literally are covering every ounce of soil 386 00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:11,799 that absorbs water in Houston. Yeah. When you when you remove soil and 387 00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:14,759 cover it up, there's nowhere for the water to go. And that's why 388 00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:18,000 Harvey was about. What is a concrete jungle where dreams are made of? 389 00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:23,640 That's New York. Yeah, Houston's a concrete swamp where where dreams can't escape. 390 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,680 Yeah, it's like a black hole. Yeah, it's like a DreamCatcher. 391 00:26:26,839 --> 00:26:30,440 It's like a DreamCatcher. Dome is just over it, but it doesn't 392 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,119 protect you from bad dreams. No stops you're good dreams from escaping. Houston's 393 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,400 rad though. I like Houston, actually not really. It's really spread out, 394 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,079 great food, seems great, It's fine as same as it is here. 395 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:47,440 I'd rather go to Dallas ten out ten times. That fits. You 396 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,039 have a Dallas face, you do, You're very Dallas, I take I 397 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,000 take that as a comment. By the way, the women in Dallas aren't 398 00:26:53,039 --> 00:26:57,680 looking for wealth, They're looking for generational wealth. Ye, right, lawyer 399 00:26:57,799 --> 00:27:03,039 is not cool. Founding partner. Yeah, but they're not asking what you're 400 00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:04,759 doing. They're asking what your dad does. Right. Well, I'm not 401 00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:07,680 a lawyer. I'm very obviously not a lawyer. But they definitely know what 402 00:27:07,839 --> 00:27:11,000 you are mine. I'm your lawyer. Yeah, you you signed all the 403 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,559 paperwork. That's yeah, if I need to, that's what a lawyer is. 404 00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:18,319 Sure, it's a lot of it. I don't have an agent. 405 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,119 Normally it's writing the papers that are signed. Now the lawyers gotta go through. 406 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,240 We got across the t's dot the eyes. Yeah, so rob's mine. 407 00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:30,680 I don't have an agent. Well, you're like, uh, Lamar 408 00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:34,119 Jackson, your buddy's just doing the legal work for you you never want that. 409 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,279 It's where it's I only get ten percent of this podcast. Yeah, 410 00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:41,759 no, that's an agent's fee. Is you get ten percent, and I'm 411 00:27:41,839 --> 00:27:45,640 I'm a rob's consultant, So you guys get the ninety It makes sense into 412 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:55,319 there. Weaseled interesting choice really went PG on that. On twenty eight, 413 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,519 eighteen eighty nine, a low pressure area formed over Nebraska in Kansas. By 414 00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:03,240 the time this weather pattern reached western Pennsylvania two days later, it had developed 415 00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:07,640 into what would be termed the heaviest rainfall event that had ever been recorded in 416 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,680 the Midwest. It is fucking like it was last night, just fucking dumb. 417 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:11,759 You gotta hills. I was crazy. I was so pissed off. 418 00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:15,759 I was sitting on my back porch. I bought a cigar and I was 419 00:28:15,799 --> 00:28:18,960 gonna drink some beer and smoke a cigar and write this Patreon episode. You 420 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,960 could have still done that. No, it was fucking horizontal rain like it 421 00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:29,319 was like was getting blasted. What it's raining sideways? Kind Yeah, it 422 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,720 was. It was really windy. I was getting fucking I had to go 423 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,319 inside, put out a cigar and go inside. You should just smoked inside. 424 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,759 It just seems like you need to be I know my pitch wife wouldn't 425 00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:40,880 let me. And honey, if you're listening to this, which you're not, 426 00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:45,759 I meant every word of that. With the amount of the smoke in 427 00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:52,599 your baby's face, I want to make them stronger. Actually, cigars raised 428 00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:56,039 a saucerone for a short term period. Let him chew on it. What 429 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,880 the babies, Yeah, a fin chew on it. Yeah, he's teething 430 00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:02,920 right, uh not yet, but I mean you could suck on it instead 431 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,519 of a binky. Yeah, you know what I mean. It's an American 432 00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:08,759 pacifier right there, my friend. I do feel embarrassed whenever I talk to 433 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:14,559 other kids or other parents with kids my age, and they're all talking about 434 00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:17,599 how, you know, these are like alpha parents, Like I don't hang 435 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,079 out with beta cuck Well you can't. And anyway, they all talk about 436 00:29:22,119 --> 00:29:26,000 how they're like, man, a boy two year olds got the thickest pubes. 437 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,559 We he sucks on like five cigars a day. Look at my hippie 438 00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:36,480 wife, and I'm like, why this is Like I can't brag about Rory 439 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,759 orphans pubes, both of whom should have a bush already. Oh come, 440 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,759 Rory can't filet an entire steak yet, like or an entire cow yet? 441 00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:47,960 How come you can't break it down? It sucks. I know you're the 442 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,440 game you hunt, sure whatever. Like I'm trying to, I'm trying to 443 00:29:52,480 --> 00:30:00,160 give him cigars and Scotch and yeah raw venison and my wife will own only 444 00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:04,960 let him in jest salmon and rose. He's gonna end up like Jake smoking 445 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,039 a fucking vape. Yeah, he's gonna having a podcast. Yeah wait, 446 00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:15,039 just there's still time. I think I just need to vent on this show 447 00:30:15,119 --> 00:30:18,279 to be honest about how my wife gives our kids way too much salmon and 448 00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:22,920 rose. Well, at least the mercurial, the mercury poison is gonna drive 449 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,000 him nuts. Yeah, I don't know. He may derive strength through his 450 00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:30,440 insanity. No, that's just gonna make him an artist. He's gonna be 451 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,240 a creative. Now, that's what you want. You want a creative kid. 452 00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:36,880 Not really not, No, it's just disgusting. I'm ashamed to myself 453 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,440 for being even mildly creative. Yeah well well not with this podcast. Yeah, 454 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,400 well I know that. That's why the podcast is really kind of correcting 455 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,920 course nature wise, right, Like I could be writing or do anything. 456 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,559 But instead I'm just drinking and farting into a microphone. And that's you know 457 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,680 better, Well, that's entertainment, a showbiz baby. Hey. With the 458 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,839 amount of rain overnight, small creeks became roaring torrents, ripping out trees and 459 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,799 debris. Telegraph lines were down, and rail lines were washed away. Before 460 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,799 daybreak, the Konama River that ran through Johnstown was already about to overwhelm its 461 00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:12,319 banks, but even worse. Water levels at the South Fork Dam began to 462 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:17,319 quickly rise. On May thirty. First, Elias Unger, who managed the 463 00:31:17,359 --> 00:31:21,440 South Fork Fishing Club, looked outside and began to worry about the rising waters. 464 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,000 He just looked at us. Yeah, yeah, that's prosing a lot 465 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,200 of water on that crack. And he's not Maine, I know, but 466 00:31:29,279 --> 00:31:33,440 I just I can't. I can't do He ins her voice, can't do 467 00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:37,279 it. Hean's I get out here, yo? Uh yeah. The rivers 468 00:31:37,359 --> 00:31:41,839 come coming up. Yeah, yep, that's right, starting to come in 469 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,599 the backyard of Greek. He supervised the group. He supervised a group of 470 00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:51,200 Italian laborers as they frantically dug a new spillway and tried to unclog the existing 471 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:56,000 one. The expendable ones smart smart, yes, uh like it damn's gonna 472 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,480 break. Get the Guineas, get him in here. At the Guineas with 473 00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:05,200 shovels now. Uh, they should still be expendable. I agree, Like, 474 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,079 whenever we have issues in this country, send in the Italians. Yeah, 475 00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:12,319 the mafia should just be like I don't know, I feel like the 476 00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:17,920 Italians never really you know, the Irish built the fucking railroads and that that 477 00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:22,039 the horrible. Oh you're saying Italians have no work ethic. Yeah, they're 478 00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:29,519 lazy people. They have to turn to crush to turn a dollar. Yeah 479 00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:32,359 they can't. They can't make an honest buck. Italy wasn't sending their best, 480 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,000 so did they have, I mean, any anything good? I don't 481 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,319 think you look at that country over there, so beautiful place, terrible people. 482 00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:44,720 I've heard that for like I've never been, but I've heard as far 483 00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:47,319 as going to Europe goes like Italy is like incredible to go to, but 484 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:52,359 it is much they've given up. It's much dirtier and grimier than any like 485 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,079 a greaser or anything. Like Greece is the same way. All these ancient 486 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,839 but in our first world country and it's like way they people have basically told 487 00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:05,440 me, like, it's way grimier and run more run down than a first 488 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,240 world any other first world country they've been too. Yeah, I would say 489 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:13,200 Greece is a lot dirtier and uh grease is I wouldn't classify Greece as the 490 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,799 first World. Have you been to Grease I have? Anywhere you go to 491 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,480 there's dicks everywhere, like widers, Like you go into the grocery store, 492 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,079 whatever, it's just a dick letter there's like cock everywhere. See, but 493 00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:25,920 that's what amerit. That's what's gonna happen with America too. Eventually we've just 494 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,119 been prude about cock like we got we only got cool about titties like in 495 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:35,200 the last forty years. We are actually a very messy, dirty country compared 496 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,319 to a lot of like Central a Ropean ones. Oh my god, if 497 00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:40,599 you go to like Munich, you just walk around, there's not trash anywhere. 498 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,880 Are you trying to hold yourself up to Germany? You don't want to 499 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:50,279 be Germany though it's still gloomy in Switzerland, there's a German Denmark, Okay, 500 00:33:50,359 --> 00:33:53,640 Like Copenhagen's really nice and clean. Yeah, but I mean there's a 501 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:58,160 lot of dirty, dirty European countries, oh totally. And there's a lot 502 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,559 of you know, clean spots here in this kind tree as well. I'm 503 00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:04,480 not saying we're the cleanest. I'm just saying Italy in particular, like going 504 00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:09,159 there, it's like, I just it feels like people almost described like Mexico 505 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:14,159 without the bad stuff in Mexican. I've never been, but I imagine Salt 506 00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:16,920 Lake City is like immaculate. Yeah, you would think, so it's got 507 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,480 to be clean. I do need to know the spillway that they were trying 508 00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:23,079 to dig out. While they were trying to dig the new spillway, the 509 00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:28,559 original spillway was clogged because the fish trap got sucked into it. Yeah, 510 00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:31,679 of course. Yeah, dude. Flash flooding is fucking terrifying like this. 511 00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:36,880 That's the only natural disaster here in Central Texas. We don't get tornadoes, 512 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,800 earthquakes, any of that shit. Hurricane inland for a hurricane, flash floods 513 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,199 fucking all the time. So yeah, I'm fine with it. I love 514 00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:49,159 them. The third floor. Every fucking year, there's not drive into the 515 00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:53,079 water, that's but that's every time you'll see three or four cars try to 516 00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:58,880 make it. They're all locals, like they grew up with it. It's 517 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,239 it's like, so I grew up in the locals might be the worst drivers 518 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:07,280 here and like Toyota Corolla, they're fucking morons. But that would be like, 519 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,960 honestly, if like I'm from the Midwest, right, it would be 520 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:15,199 like if a tornado was coming, like confirmed motherfucking coming, and you were 521 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,880 like, I gotta get up higher, I gotta get on the roof. 522 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,519 We need a better view because we're gonna be storm chasing because I can't be 523 00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:24,360 that's the eventual spinoff. I don't want to like, I don't care about 524 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:29,079 softcore history. I want to chase storms. Uh. Storm Chasing is the 525 00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:31,679 other podcast content that I would do for sure, Like I would start, 526 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:36,360 like if we wanted to go fully independent and supplement softcore history, I would 527 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,280 do it with storm Chase. I just want to live out the plot to 528 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:42,440 Twister Dude, so I can again. I guess we would just go to 529 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,639 Florida and you'd go to Missouri and we'd do hurricane season. You just get 530 00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:49,800 tornadoes. You can do tornadoes in Texas too. Yeah, we gotta figure 531 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,880 out if we can nuke the hurricane. Yeah, get our hands on a 532 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,719 nuke. See if that works. We're like a giant fan. We just 533 00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:01,519 if we crash, if we use AI to kazack stands economy, we can 534 00:36:01,559 --> 00:36:05,199 probably get a nuke. Yeah they have a nuke. Yeah, why does 535 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,920 because they were former Soviet state. All those motherfuckers haven't Oh yeah, all 536 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,519 those Soviet countries. I just watched war Dogs again yesterday, and so there's 537 00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:17,440 just arsenals. Yeah, there's giant arsenals. There are a lot of nuclear 538 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:22,920 weapons in the hands of countries you really don't want to have. They're just 539 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,480 sitting in a warehouse though. Yeah, although a lot of them are allegedly 540 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,039 like don't really even work as a nuke anymore, But they still can be 541 00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:35,400 like a dirty bomb, and I mean all bad anyway, tactical dirty nuke. 542 00:36:37,559 --> 00:36:40,800 Sure, I guess, yeah, any I guess any nuke is tactical 543 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,800 in a way, right, Like what is the definition of tactical for more 544 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:51,159 like a battlefield nuke. You can use it to like nuke out troops. 545 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,280 Yeah, you're not nuke and outs like cities or civilization. Tactical nuke is 546 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,840 like one used in the field. It's small. I think it's smaller and 547 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,119 using the field. Yeah, okay, So like U could technically if they 548 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:06,400 so, say, if Ukraine's counter offensive began tomorrow and there was a breakthrough 549 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,039 and Putin was just fucking crazy enough to do it and needed to stop that 550 00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:15,159 breakthrough, plug a hole in his line, he could nuke it. Yeah, 551 00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:16,719 which, by the way, you know who really wanted to do that. 552 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:24,079 General Douglas MacArthur during the Korean War was begging, screaming at Truman to 553 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:30,159 nuke the border between North Korea and China so the Chinese couldn't send soldiers over. 554 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,159 Well, listen, he just wanted to radiate the work. Yeah, 555 00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:37,920 he just wanted to radiate the whole border. That's losing. That's winning a 556 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,800 war to lose the rest of everything else. Yea. And also, if 557 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,480 there's a man with a quick trigger finger with nukes, it's Truman. No, 558 00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:49,800 no, actually not at all. Well, he's the only person to 559 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,559 ever do it. Kind of twice, he kind of like he knew the 560 00:37:53,599 --> 00:37:57,679 bomb exists, he'd be doubled up all of humanity. Oh my god, 561 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,719 let's just do it. Let's just go see hop and high. Yeah, 562 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,519 yeah, you talk about new we can talk about Oppenheimer. We might just 563 00:38:02,519 --> 00:38:07,199 do an Oppenheimer review bonus episode, or might as well just do an entire 564 00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:10,519 episode on Oppenheimer. We'll figure it out. Anyway. Back to your Italians, 565 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,000 Yeah, anyway, So, yeah, what we're gonna do is we're 566 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,239 gonna send in the Italians with a nuke. Yeah, they have to detonate, 567 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,639 but they have to stay there manually. Yeah. Yeah, it's like 568 00:38:20,639 --> 00:38:24,199 that guy. Then a start a bunch of fucking Vinnys with ballpinhammers. It's 569 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:30,199 like, hey oo hey, bo what's it gonna go? Hey a bang 570 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:35,519 a bonga boom, We're gonna blow it up. Yeah, so they alias 571 00:38:35,559 --> 00:38:38,159 Unger quickly realizes these Italians are not getting the job done. This thing's gonna 572 00:38:38,159 --> 00:38:42,760 be. There are lazy people, I'm telling you, Irish, German, 573 00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:49,199 Chinese, Mexican, all better workers. Yeah, the Irish would have fixed 574 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,760 this. We would have. No, you wouldn't know, Yes, we 575 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:52,760 would have. We would have. We wouldn't. We wouldn't have done the 576 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,800 job right. He would have just died more and cried about it later. 577 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,159 Well, yes, who would have cried about later? That's that's how who 578 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,159 we are We're are a good storytelling people kind of, but they're sad stories. 579 00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:05,280 I'm saying. We would have damed it up with our own corpses. 580 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,960 Yeah, yeah, you would have just jammed the other fucking yeah, but 581 00:39:08,039 --> 00:39:12,800 you deal with cuddies in there. But the water, the Italian corpses can't 582 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,039 damn it up because the grease the water rolls off into it. And they 583 00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:20,679 would also just explain it in a theoretical situation that they would never do. 584 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,760 Ye right, Yeah, So Eliza Unger sends John Park, an engineer for 585 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,920 the South Fork Club, to deliver a warning to the people below the damn, 586 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,639 including Johnstown. Park rode on horseback to a telegraph office in the nearby 587 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:37,360 town of South Fork send warnings to Johnstown, explaining dangers. Unfortunately, Park 588 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,199 the water coming no way. He was faster than it. Well, it 589 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,679 hadn't broken yet, but damn hadn't mere ship. Unfortunately, Park did not 590 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,199 personally take a warning message to the telegraph tower. He sent a man instead 591 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,760 in his place, and uh, yeah, that was never passed the authorities 592 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,559 in Johnstown because there had been many false alarms in the past and everyone's like, 593 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,360 nah, it's not it'll be fine. There was a boy who cried, 594 00:39:58,679 --> 00:40:01,599 yeah, blood all efforts to save the damn or abandon At around one 595 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:06,440 thirty PM, fearing that their efforts were futile and the dam was at risk 596 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,920 of imminent collapse, under or Under ordered all of the men to fall back 597 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,639 to high ground on both sides of the dam, where they just basically sat 598 00:40:13,679 --> 00:40:15,199 back and watched it all go down to fucking you. Nothing else you can 599 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,880 do now, stay woke. There's plenty of the cities or towns in this 600 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:25,639 country that were flooded to create man made lakes Oka, Missouri Lake. That's 601 00:40:25,679 --> 00:40:30,119 how Saint Louis was the lake in Georgia. Yeah. Yeah, the people 602 00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:32,400 keep getting your knees and shit. Yeah, dude, it's so crazy to 603 00:40:32,519 --> 00:40:37,119 me that like, forget that that stuff makes sense, because that's fucked up. 604 00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:40,760 It's crazy to me is how many people drown each year because like a 605 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,199 piece of like a lake plant catches their ankle, like that chick from Glee 606 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,920 Naya rivera. Yeah, and their little babies on the boat. Yeah wait, 607 00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:52,199 what caught her ankle? Like, oh, like seaweed or something. 608 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,960 Basically, Yeah, well, there's a massive seaweed issue going on right now 609 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,679 it's just showing up on shores. Yeah, but it's just the ocean taking 610 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,719 a up on the beach. Yeah, that's everything very nasty. So like 611 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,679 I don't want to go to that beach anymore. Well, why would you. 612 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,559 The ocean just took a dump on it. I know. Back to 613 00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:15,360 my original point though, maybe this is the fishing society people the seat no, 614 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,719 no, no, the fucking club right, oh yes, yeah there. 615 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,519 Maybe it was a bad investment and they're like, you know what, 616 00:41:21,559 --> 00:41:25,199 we're gonna collect on some insurance money. Flood this bitch. I don't think 617 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,400 that's out. That would be funny if they were like but it was like 618 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,239 a long game, like a long con, and they were like, yeah, 619 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:36,239 yeah, we can lower the damn no problem, should be fine, 620 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,400 and want to build a road, will make a big, smooth road much 621 00:41:38,519 --> 00:41:43,800 lower than the damn currently is. Yeah, cars and other stuff, Well, 622 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,679 we're all right over it. They're playing for d chess. Yeah, 623 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,760 fishermen talk about talking about railroads. Yea, yeah, fishermen are known to 624 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,159 do that. They're not fishermen, though, they're like just their industrialists, 625 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:58,960 high powered individuals that just want a place to go on the weekend. Well, 626 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,800 while this damn is about to breach, Johnstown is already flooding because of 627 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:07,639 the fucking storm. The situation worse though, just the waterways are already there. 628 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:12,199 Fucked. Yeah. So the water rose is high as ten feet in 629 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,000 the streets, trapping some people in their homes. Finally, sometime between two 630 00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:20,320 fifty and two fifty five PM, the South Fork Dam breached. A lightar 631 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,239 analysis of the Connama Lake basin reveals that it contained fourteen point fourteen point five 632 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:30,599 five million cubic meters or three point eight four three billion gallons of water at 633 00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:32,119 the moment the dam collapse. That's I know, that's a lot, but 634 00:42:32,159 --> 00:42:36,239 that number is like meaningless to me. I will get to what it means 635 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,119 incause it is insane. You need to tell me, give us the wave 636 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,159 they created. Yeah, you need to tell me something dumb, like it 637 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,119 could feel five rose bowls. Just something where I'm like, whoa, I'm 638 00:42:46,159 --> 00:42:50,800 about to I'm about to explain all of how bad this is. The rest 639 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,880 of this is going to be about the flood itself. Did it become a 640 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:58,239 giant aquarium of doom? Yeah? If you like if instead of fish, 641 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,880 you like corpses, Really an aquarium. By the way, this reminds me 642 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,800 of this is speaking of Texas and flash flogs. Always says you read about 643 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,559 this every year. It's like people, it's happening like San Marcus a couple 644 00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:12,079 of years ago. People just lived on the river. Like I mean, 645 00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:15,440 like they had a house on the river and like their house gets swept away. 646 00:43:15,519 --> 00:43:16,880 Like if you want to just watch wild videos, just look up like 647 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:22,639 flash flood houses, dude, But like the ship, like the Memorial Day 648 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,800 weekend flood in like twenty fifteen where it was just like two story homes floating 649 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,079 down the fucking river. Yeah, like it was insane fucking wild. It 650 00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:34,440 seems like an easy way to move. Yeah, relocate. I will say, 651 00:43:36,039 --> 00:43:38,000 if there's one body of water you should not live on, it's a 652 00:43:38,119 --> 00:43:45,280 fucking river. Don't live next to a river, live high up, live 653 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,519 on a bluff if you're going to yeah, right, yeah, or just 654 00:43:47,679 --> 00:43:52,880 live on a float like Huck Finn. So that three point eight billion gallons 655 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,280 of water, it took only an hour for it to empty from the lake 656 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,480 after the damn collapse. That's how fast it was moving. Okay, it 657 00:43:59,559 --> 00:44:04,480 seems no, it's so fast to displace that much water. The first twn 658 00:44:04,519 --> 00:44:07,000 to be hit by the flood was South Fork. The town was on high 659 00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:08,760 ground, and most of the people escaped by running up nearby hills where they 660 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:13,800 saw the damn spillover. Between twenty and thirty houses were destroyed instantly or washed 661 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,079 away, and four people were killed. Continuing on its pretty good, honestly, 662 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,800 it's not bad. That's not bad. No, it gets we're talking 663 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,280 about this place and four people. Bad. No, no, no, 664 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:28,880 no. This is what this is like, little baby flood right now st 665 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:34,159 it's stopping, it's grinding, it's leveling up at each town it stops up 666 00:44:34,159 --> 00:44:37,960 before it hits Johnstown. Continuing on its way down stream to John's Sound, 667 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,559 fourteen miles west, the water picked up to breeze such as trees, houses 668 00:44:40,599 --> 00:44:45,119 and animals. At the contumn of viaduct to seventy eight foot high railroad bridge, 669 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:50,480 the flood was momentarily stemmed when de breed jammed against the stone bridge's arch, 670 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,400 but within seven minutes the viaduct collapsed, allowing the flood to resume its 671 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:58,599 course. However, owing to the delay at the stone arch, the floodwaters 672 00:44:58,599 --> 00:45:01,559 gained an even more powerful urge, so it actually just got really strong right 673 00:45:01,559 --> 00:45:06,360 behind the thing, resulting in a stronger, more abrupt wave of water hitting 674 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,519 places downstream than otherwise would have happened. The small town of Mineral Point, 675 00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:13,559 one mile below the viaduct, was the first populated place to be hit with 676 00:45:13,639 --> 00:45:17,000 the renewed force. About thirty families lived on the village's single street. After 677 00:45:17,159 --> 00:45:22,440 the flood, there were no structures, there was no top soil, there 678 00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:25,239 was no subsoil left. The only thing left of that place was the bedrockets 679 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:30,199 sat on it. Everything. So it's like if you're like waxing your leg 680 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:35,159 hair and you just rip it to the bone. Yeah, that's exactly what 681 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,960 happened. It's it's like they got water nuked. Yeah yeah, it's there's 682 00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:42,360 nothing left. It's just rocked. Oh hold on, they got powerwashed. 683 00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:49,039 They fucking got It's like taking a powerwasher to your legs, like just right 684 00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:52,440 to the right, down to the hot white bone. So these are small 685 00:45:52,519 --> 00:45:54,960 towns that it was hitting. So the death toll here was only about sixteen 686 00:45:55,039 --> 00:46:00,840 people. But so far, I'm not gonna lie the body count. It's 687 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,199 not doing it for me. It's all saving up for Johnstound, all right, 688 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,840 so it better fucking delivered. Jake, Just you're swear to God if 689 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:13,159 I don't hear about a thousand dead toddlers Italians. If you it's Italian toddlers. 690 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,559 You were wondering about the equivalent, like the comparative force of the flood. 691 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,719 This is the part way where I tell you that in two thousand and 692 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,559 nine, studies showed that by this point the flood was as wide as the 693 00:46:24,599 --> 00:46:30,159 Mississippi River and three times more powerful than Niagara Falls. Good lord, Yeah, 694 00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:35,679 that still doesn't really that does it for me? Have you been to 695 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,559 the Mississippi River. It's humongous, It's fucking I guess I've crowded. It's 696 00:46:39,679 --> 00:46:45,039 narrowest, it's really fucking wide. At it's it's like in Saint Louis. 697 00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:50,239 I mean, it's fucking huge. Cool, that's a nuke. Yeah, 698 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,679 they just I need a brink Us to kind of show me a sports sign 699 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:59,400 to this. What it's like forty Ryan Howard home Rand, What do you 700 00:47:00,639 --> 00:47:06,400 imagine being hit by twelve Ray Lewis's No, it's it's seven hundred and fifty 701 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:14,239 million intomic on Seu's okay, okay, but specifically stomping on your crotch. 702 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:19,480 Yeah, while you're laying on the ground. Help. Yeah, yes to 703 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,159 never forget. Kid didn't have a future and he knew it. Did Sue 704 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:29,079 fuck up, Marcus Vic. No, Marcus Vic just fucking curbs people. 705 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,440 Oh okay, okay, I thought because Sue was notorious for stomic quarterbacks, 706 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:38,840 including Blaine Gabbert, So I didn't know if I respect that thought in Dominican 707 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:43,159 Sue, I respect it more from a d tackle than a fucking quarterback. 708 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,679 I'll say that quarterbacks stepping on people, I know, that's like Sidney Crosby 709 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:51,280 cheap shotting someone and then he just goes and hides behind his fucking goons. 710 00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:54,679 The village of East Conama was the next populated area to fall victim to the 711 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:59,440 flood. One witness on high ground near the town described the water as almost 712 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,960 obscure, as almost completely obscured by debris, resembling a huge hill rolling over 713 00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:06,480 and over and over again. So this thing is swept up so much shit. 714 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,360 Yeah, that's that's one thing that they talk about in both of the 715 00:48:08,559 --> 00:48:15,039 major tsunamis in the last twenty years is that like, yeah, you drown 716 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:20,039 or whatever, but you're also getting like stabbed a thousand times by fucking sharp 717 00:48:20,159 --> 00:48:22,199 wood and metal and all this shit sounds like you have something to kind of 718 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,119 just kind of surf on if you if you can mount on the ball, 719 00:48:25,199 --> 00:48:29,239 you do it right, Yeah, tree comes your way, Just kind of 720 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,679 hang on to a branch or like people up. The worst stories are like 721 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:37,000 someone's like running away or something, and then like they don't even get hit 722 00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:38,920 by the wave. They get like smashed into a wall by a car that 723 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,360 the wave is throwing at them, like it's just or a train in this 724 00:48:43,559 --> 00:48:46,320 case, Oh all right, perfect, So from his idle locomotive in the 725 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:52,280 town's rail yard. The engine, unstoppable force. You're the immovable object. 726 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,599 Quite often they're like they come to a head. You don't know who's gonna 727 00:48:55,599 --> 00:49:00,719 win. What's the immovable object? Yeah, just me? Yeah, pre's 728 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,960 a train you're gonna win. I mean talking about it. Ain't no, 729 00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:07,440 ain't no train took me yet, that's true. Rob has never once been 730 00:49:07,519 --> 00:49:10,639 hit by a train that was floating down a busted damn Yeah, ever once 731 00:49:10,679 --> 00:49:15,039 happened. Never loss, that's right. I bet you guys. I'll never 732 00:49:15,159 --> 00:49:20,320 be hit by a train. That's that'd be very funny. If dude, 733 00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:23,280 you know, it would be really funny if, like, at that moment 734 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:28,880 a train just burst through the we put on your gravestone. He said he 735 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,079 would never get hit by a train. He was wrong one. Well, 736 00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:36,119 no, actually just right, Pride cometh before the fall. Pride cometh before 737 00:49:36,159 --> 00:49:43,800 the train. But yeah, so this guy's sitting in fucking this guy's sitting 738 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,519 in his train. He starts feeling the rumbling approach it threw. He threw 739 00:49:46,599 --> 00:49:51,800 his locomotive into reverse, and he raced backward towards East Kanama, the whistle 740 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,519 blowing constantly to warn people. His warning actually saved people who reached high ground. 741 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,679 But when the flood hit, it picked up is still moving locomotive off 742 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,159 the tracks and floated it. A He actually survived, but at least fifty 743 00:50:01,159 --> 00:50:05,639 people died on the train, including about twenty five passengers stranded on trains in 744 00:50:05,679 --> 00:50:08,719 the village. So how the fuck did he survive? He's Bruce Willis. 745 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,400 I don't know. I don't know how he survived. But there there were 746 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,400 trains that were moving at full speed that just got fucking worked right in the 747 00:50:16,519 --> 00:50:21,199 middle of the flood. Yeah, so there are multiple trains in the flood. 748 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,639 Fifty seven minutes after the damn collapse, the flood hit Johnstown and all 749 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:29,840 hell broke loose. Residents were caught by surprise as the wall of water and 750 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,280 debris board Now I'm traveling at speeds of forty miles per hour and reaching a 751 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:37,280 height of sixty feet. Some people, realizing the danger, tried to escape 752 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,519 by running towards high ground, but most were hit by the surging floodwater. 753 00:50:40,119 --> 00:50:45,119 So apparently the speed of the water of Niagara Falls is like twenty five miles 754 00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:51,840 an hour, so this is forty almost double, which is nuts. Many 755 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,960 people were crushed instantly, killed by debris. Others became caught in barbed wire 756 00:50:57,079 --> 00:51:00,960 from the Oh god, that's right, did I miss that? Apparently? 757 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:09,280 Fuck my bad? So uh yeah, this thing hit uh this town's famous 758 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,880 barbed wire factory. This thing hit the Cambria Iron Works before it got to 759 00:51:14,039 --> 00:51:19,599 Johnstown, which was surrounded by barbed wire, like hundreds of yards of barbed 760 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,039 So it was it was a It was a tsunami armed with fucking barbed wire. 761 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:28,280 Was tied away with a knife. It was just a fight. Just 762 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:34,639 Nick Foley with a barbed wire back w e rage in a cage the way. 763 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,920 Yeah like yeah, so, uh, the catch of rage in the 764 00:51:38,039 --> 00:51:45,639 cage is at its the wrestlers versus the cage that sala is fighting them. 765 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:50,559 Yeah. Oh okay, I will get to this. Uh. Those who 766 00:51:50,639 --> 00:51:53,039 reach adds the roofs or managed to stay afloat on pieces of floating bree waited 767 00:51:53,079 --> 00:51:57,000 hours for help to arrive. At Johnstown, the stone bridge, which was 768 00:51:57,039 --> 00:52:00,559 a substantial arched structure, carried the Pennsylvania Railroad across the Kanama River. The 769 00:52:00,639 --> 00:52:05,639 debris carried by the flood formed a temporary damn at this bridge, result thing 770 00:52:05,679 --> 00:52:09,119 in the flood searge rolling upstream back the other way along the Stony Creek River. 771 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:14,719 Eventually, gravity casts the searge to return back again, resulting in a 772 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,760 second wave that hit the city from a different direction. So it was so 773 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:22,159 big it got damned, just floated back up, then came back down with 774 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:27,320 more force. I like that it regrouped. It's a good breath. 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Some people who had been washed downstream 954 01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,119 became trapped in an inferno as the debris that it piled up against the bridge 955 01:04:00,159 --> 01:04:04,119 caught fire. At least eight, yeah, at least eighty people died in 956 01:04:04,199 --> 01:04:11,360 a fire in the water. The fire burned for three days. There was 957 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,679 so much fuel and shit. At that point, you just gotta tip your 958 01:04:14,719 --> 01:04:20,000 cap the food that yeah, you think you're living, and then all of 959 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:25,400 a sudden the water erupts in flame. At that point, I wouldn't even 960 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:29,360 because, especially at that point in time, you wouldn't really know what's happening 961 01:04:29,519 --> 01:04:32,079 elsewhere in the world. Like in Australia or Europe. So I would just 962 01:04:32,119 --> 01:04:35,519 be like, is this the apocalypse? Probably? Is this? Maybe? 963 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:40,119 And so you sink down and you drown yourself because you don't catch on fire 964 01:04:40,719 --> 01:04:44,599 like this. Yeah, And honestly, you'll just probably get crushed by a 965 01:04:44,679 --> 01:04:49,239 submerged train anyway, which is a locomotive wrapped in barbed wires. Yeah, 966 01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:55,639 so that's what. What was that fucking pirate punishment that you talked about? 967 01:04:55,679 --> 01:04:57,840 Oh, that's this, that's this. Yeah, where they put you on 968 01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,480 a rope and they just swing you. You under the fucking you become an 969 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,599 anchor and they push you down to the water and they lift you up and 970 01:05:03,679 --> 01:05:08,760 you go against the boat which has a bunch of like articles, articles, 971 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:12,159 and it just cut you up. Yeah, that's this. This is that 972 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,559 death but with fire too. Oh. By the way, you know who 973 01:05:14,599 --> 01:05:21,719 I think portrayed that death in um uh fuck black Sales? Yeah, Ray 974 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:28,559 Stevenson. I think he was the one that got dragged. Yeah, Sigrid 975 01:05:28,639 --> 01:05:31,760 Patron. That fire that we just talked about burned for three days straight. 976 01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:36,440 After floodwaters receded. The pilot of debris at the bridge was seen to cover 977 01:05:36,639 --> 01:05:44,639 thirty acres and reached does fires forever? If you have a town that's been 978 01:05:44,679 --> 01:05:48,239 on fire for like seventy years now, so like football and crab cakes, 979 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:56,840 you guys are like fires and what what else? Wahwas? So Centralia has 980 01:05:57,079 --> 01:05:59,880 been on fire. I forget how long you can load it up. But 981 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,920 it was like an old mining town and it just caught fire and it's been 982 01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,960 on fire. Ever, we should do it on site for that. I 983 01:06:06,039 --> 01:06:09,400 don't think it's good for your health. It can't be to like breathe it 984 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,960 in. So think about this. It covers thirty acres in the highest point 985 01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,039 of the trash pile is seventy feet high. That's an insane amount of debris. 986 01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:20,360 It took workers three months to remove the mass of debreathe, the delay 987 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:25,639 owing in part largely to the huge quantity of barbed wire that it composed the 988 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,760 debris pile. They just keep like picking up pieces and be like oh fuck 989 01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,239 yeah, like yeah because and then immediately get infected. Yeah, it actually 990 01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:36,079 killed some people trying to help. I'm sure it did at that point. 991 01:06:36,199 --> 01:06:41,079 Like if you're in charge, if you're whatever FEMA is back then and someone 992 01:06:41,159 --> 01:06:43,960 comes up to you and you're like to give me the situation report what's going 993 01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:48,199 on, and they're like, uh, sir, the water is on fire 994 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:54,920 and armed the waters Like you just gotta be like, Okay, we're not 995 01:06:55,039 --> 01:06:59,760 going in. Everyone in there's on their own. We will just cordon off 996 01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:01,880 the area. That just set up a perimeter. What if the National Guard 997 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,639 went in and just started lighting up the river? They just started stabbing it. 998 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:10,000 That's why Coligula got ahead of it. He'd sent all those guys to 999 01:07:10,039 --> 01:07:12,119 stab the ocean. Yeah, I mean, honestly, at this point, 1000 01:07:12,239 --> 01:07:14,880 just nuke it. Actually, if you had nukes, nuke it. But 1001 01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:17,039 you've said why they should have just nuked it at that point they pretty much 1002 01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:20,119 did. They The only way they were able to clear it was they just 1003 01:07:20,159 --> 01:07:24,440 started blasting the area with dynamite to clear it out. Sounds about right, 1004 01:07:24,599 --> 01:07:27,960 That's exactly what I would do. Yeah. According to the Johnstown Area Heritage 1005 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,079 Association, two two hundred and nine people died, almost four hundred of them 1006 01:07:31,119 --> 01:07:36,559 were children. Among the dead were ninety nine entire families. The seventeen million 1007 01:07:36,599 --> 01:07:43,239 dollars in damage equates to four point four billion in current dollars, including sixteen 1008 01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,800 hundred obliterated homes and four square miles of complete destruction to the bedrock and the 1009 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,559 aftermath. Bodies were found as far away as Cincinnati, Ohio, more than 1010 01:07:50,639 --> 01:07:56,320 four hundred miles away. The flood was the first major initiative for the American 1011 01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:00,719 Red Cross and was the deadliest non hurricane flood in American history. Um for 1012 01:08:00,039 --> 01:08:06,519 for for perspective or context or whatever, Hurricane Katrina. That damage was one 1013 01:08:06,599 --> 01:08:12,039 hundred and twenty five billion. Yeah, so not I mean that that's a 1014 01:08:12,159 --> 01:08:18,279 nice insurance check though for who America? The people who built that town. 1015 01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:24,359 Yeah, I guess if your mister Orleans came through, it was like get 1016 01:08:24,399 --> 01:08:27,760 that. No, no, Carnegie, Yeah, Carnegie got the insurance check 1017 01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:30,920 the port. Like the steelworker family who are all fucking drowned and wrapped and 1018 01:08:31,039 --> 01:08:34,479 trained barbed wire, like they don't get anything. They paid them off like 1019 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:39,439 three dollars. They're dead. Uh. Naturally, people did want answers for 1020 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:44,560 the catastrophic failure of the reservoir, so the American Social Society of Civil Engineers 1021 01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,439 appointed a committee of four prominent engineers to investigate the cause of the disaster. 1022 01:08:48,039 --> 01:08:54,039 William Shin became a new president of this committee in January of eighteen ninety. 1023 01:08:54,079 --> 01:08:59,800 He was the former partner of Andrew Carnegie. Oh. Yeah, the committee 1024 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,199 included the dam would have failed even if it had not been lowered, and 1025 01:09:02,279 --> 01:09:06,479 if it even if it had been maintained with the original design specifications. But 1026 01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:12,760 this was pretty much challenged almost immediately. A hydraulic analysis published in twenty sixteen 1027 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,840 confirmed that the changes made to the dam by the South Fork Fishing and Hunting 1028 01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,800 Club severely reduced its ability to withstand major storms, and that lowering the dam 1029 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:23,399 by as much as three feet and failing to replace the discharge pipes at its 1030 01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:28,239 base cut the damn safe, the damn safe discharge capacity in half. So 1031 01:09:29,119 --> 01:09:31,279 it could it could have just not rained and done this like this could have 1032 01:09:31,319 --> 01:09:35,520 happened regardless of it rains, Okay, which is insane. So they killed 1033 01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:41,199 ninety nine whole families, four hundred children, two thousand people. Yeah, 1034 01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:45,680 because they wanted nicer bang horse between the pines. It was in their eye 1035 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,079 line. They had to lower the day well, they needed to be able 1036 01:09:48,119 --> 01:09:53,000 to drive a car across the dam to kill the other side filled with horse 1037 01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:58,159 to bang. And again they wanted to flood this place because they wanted to 1038 01:09:58,239 --> 01:10:00,920 leave no evidence behind, and they wanted all insurance money. Yeah, and 1039 01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:06,479 stay awoke people who was not there Carnegie, No, he never is. 1040 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:10,880 They're like, hey, buddy, Carnegie's like, now, remember, no 1041 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:15,000 one go to bang Horse on what day was m March twenty Yeah he planned 1042 01:10:15,039 --> 01:10:18,640 with the storm too. Yeah. No, but uh, well, well 1043 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:23,920 they have the machines. If anyone has them, it's probably him. Yeah. 1044 01:10:24,399 --> 01:10:27,399 Um. Yeah. The club was challenged in court, but they successfully 1045 01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:32,079 defended accusations accusations of fault, claiming that they only lowered the dam by one 1046 01:10:32,199 --> 01:10:36,159 foot and that the flood was an act of God. Individuals who sued them 1047 01:10:36,319 --> 01:10:40,880 all lost in court, and many went bankrupt, losing their life savings trying 1048 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:45,479 to fight their case. Yep, yep, yep. This decision ultimately led 1049 01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:47,600 to the adoption of strict liability in the American legal system. Later on. 1050 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,720 I like to think that actually that Andrew Carnegie was like, it was an 1051 01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,840 act of God, but then to himself was like, oh yeah, God, 1052 01:10:55,039 --> 01:11:01,199 that's me. It's my act. Would you rather die in this or 1053 01:11:01,359 --> 01:11:06,119 in the Boston molasses flood? Neither? It's impossible to say. That's a 1054 01:11:06,199 --> 01:11:12,960 stupid answer. The molasses flood though, you want to suffocate in this type. 1055 01:11:13,039 --> 01:11:15,239 This sounds faster. Actually, this might be instant. Yeah, you're 1056 01:11:15,399 --> 01:11:18,560 I go with Rob's answer, Yeah, because you're gonna suffocate probably in the 1057 01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,319 molass. I don't want to drown a molasses That sounds off. You don't 1058 01:11:21,359 --> 01:11:26,840 want to die like that Mosquito in Jurassic Park. No, you know what 1059 01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:30,640 I mean. I don't want to become a giant like that would be sick 1060 01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:34,560 to like be in the future and you're in some cockroaches like Kine they bring 1061 01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:41,199 back They're like, hey, let's take it the blood out of this guy. 1062 01:11:41,359 --> 01:11:45,359 Whatever's like the future running Earth. Yeah, you're just in there, 1063 01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:50,479 cased an aunt. Yeah. So basically those responsible for the strategy never even 1064 01:11:51,239 --> 01:11:56,159 got held liable for it. I mean, sure, yeah, Carnegie did, 1065 01:11:56,359 --> 01:11:58,720 uh, you know, donate a bunch of money and built a library 1066 01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:03,359 in Johnstown. Henry clay Frick actually donated thousands of dollars, but it pals 1067 01:12:03,359 --> 01:12:06,960 in the comparison to the damage costs and lives taken. But we did adopt 1068 01:12:08,039 --> 01:12:13,119 way stricter liability for businesses regardless of acts of God. So basically, if 1069 01:12:13,159 --> 01:12:16,159 you're in charge of something and it fucks up, even if it's an act 1070 01:12:16,199 --> 01:12:20,600 of God, You're liable now no matter what, Like you you're responsible for 1071 01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:24,680 it. It happens like on your property or whatever. Yeah, because if 1072 01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:28,039 you're if you're dealing and it's specific to certain things, so a dam would 1073 01:12:28,079 --> 01:12:30,399 be one of them where you're you are making a structure that impedes on the 1074 01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,640 force of nature. Yeah, that is your liability of that. So if 1075 01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:38,800 somebody breaks into your house and they fall and getting paled by some fence, 1076 01:12:39,239 --> 01:12:42,399 it's on you. Not necessarily, it's not like that. It does happen, 1077 01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:46,000 though it does happen. That's a really random case. Someone is on 1078 01:12:46,159 --> 01:12:54,359 your property and you're you're all running around, uh, playing a game where 1079 01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:58,920 you just like hold golf clubs up to this guy and yeah we and someone 1080 01:12:59,119 --> 01:13:01,720 gets struck by light, which struck by gets struck by a train or a 1081 01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,439 train. Yeah. Well, if you build your house on a railroad track, 1082 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,119 yes, that is on you. I think a train while a train 1083 01:13:08,199 --> 01:13:11,600 falling out of this guy and crushing one of your house guesses and metal attracts 1084 01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,560 trains. Well, that's again that's not what this is talking about. It's 1085 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,119 talking about like a corporation that impedes on As Dan's lawyer, I'm going to 1086 01:13:17,199 --> 01:13:19,880 tell you that this is exactly what that's talking about. Okay, well, 1087 01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:25,039 this is a fun conversation. That's great. Let me told me about the 1088 01:13:25,119 --> 01:13:28,880 law. Does it count if I like take a try a knife and jump 1089 01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,560 on it? But first like that, that's that's an act of gun right, 1090 01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:36,520 that's a that's a nice maybe accidental spare bedroom callback a knife butt challenge 1091 01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:42,159 was so, yeah, just shove a knife up your ass. That is 1092 01:13:42,159 --> 01:13:45,920 a good one. But yeah, um, that's my episode for today, 1093 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,479 guys. Really tragic flood. I just wanted to tell you how insane it 1094 01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,640 was because I didn't know it was filled with fucking knives and caught on fire 1095 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:56,319 for a while. I do appreciate that the flood was armed and then went 1096 01:13:56,439 --> 01:14:00,600 super sae very dangerous. It's super sane. It exploded at one point. 1097 01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:04,439 My favorite thing about I didn't know floods did this. They kind of dip 1098 01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:09,119 out for a little bit and then come back. Um, I don't all 1099 01:14:09,279 --> 01:14:13,439 do that. They can though I knew. I know that, like I've 1100 01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,600 I've heard of water flowing backwards before, like the Mississippi when they're the earthquake 1101 01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:20,199 that rocks Missouri in like eighteen twenty made the Mississippi flow backwards for a couple 1102 01:14:20,199 --> 01:14:23,239 of days or something like that. Do you think this is what Bruce Lee 1103 01:14:23,319 --> 01:14:26,760 meant when he said be a water my friend. Yeah, you may be 1104 01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:30,479 incredibly violent. Be on fire, carrying as many knives as you can. 1105 01:14:30,079 --> 01:14:33,880 That's the best way to fight. And throw trains. Yes, throw trains 1106 01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,880 as many times as you vehicles, because like I promise you, if you 1107 01:14:38,119 --> 01:14:43,279 throw a train, you will never lose a fight. That's true. Problem 1108 01:14:43,399 --> 01:14:47,479 is keeping a train on you at all times? Would you learn though I 1109 01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:53,199 learned I knew about this, I know you knew about it. I honestly, 1110 01:14:53,279 --> 01:14:59,479 I just learned that. You know, you're not as important as the 1111 01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:03,920 wealthy. Having a third or fourth location to bang Horizon, Yeah, they 1112 01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:09,119 needed a vacation town like well, they had mult They have multiple vacation towns. 1113 01:15:09,159 --> 01:15:11,479 This is just one of them. I know they don't is like a 1114 01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:15,720 fourth location. You need a change of scenery. Yeah, what's wrong with 1115 01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:19,039 more? Hampton's get boring? Nantucket gets boring? Yeah you always need a 1116 01:15:19,119 --> 01:15:25,039 new spot. Yeah, um, who's hitler? Because I have one the 1117 01:15:25,119 --> 01:15:30,079 fishing club. Everyone in the fishing club. Wrong Dan, the damn wrong 1118 01:15:31,279 --> 01:15:36,479 dam was fine untill they lowered it. M I don't know. Just because 1119 01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:41,359 they take away your resources doesn't mean you can't do your job. I'm gonna 1120 01:15:41,399 --> 01:15:45,680 say Hitler was railroads because this wouldn't have happened. Oh yeah, they would, 1121 01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,399 all right, Yeah, they would have maintained that infrastructure if it was 1122 01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:54,640 still a transport canal barge like a barge canal. Yeah, they would have. 1123 01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:58,039 People would have given a crap about if they were still floating stuff up 1124 01:15:58,039 --> 01:16:01,319 and down. It's the same way now people don't give a crap about railroad 1125 01:16:01,359 --> 01:16:05,119 bridges and stuff. Huh Yeah, isn't that weird? Have have those chickens 1126 01:16:05,159 --> 01:16:09,279 come home to roost yet not maintaining rail lines? Yeah? I know, 1127 01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,720 right, yeah, yeah, it keeps happening. We just keep forgetting about 1128 01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,079 the old stuff. It's funny that people like freak out over random well, 1129 01:16:15,119 --> 01:16:20,279 don't regulate it, right never regular They answer is deregulation because people will only 1130 01:16:20,399 --> 01:16:24,479 use the good tracks if you deregulate. Yeah, no, that's why I 1131 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:29,640 like to will only happen, Yeah, people will only live underneath the good 1132 01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,720 people will only make good choices, right, that's right. No, yeah 1133 01:16:33,159 --> 01:16:38,640 see if they like, you know, regulation wouldn't have helped this, this 1134 01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:43,159 damn at all. Now, people just chose to live there. They knew 1135 01:16:43,199 --> 01:16:45,720 what was going on, they knew the risk. Yeah. Yeah, that's 1136 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,479 it for our show, guys, Thanks so much for listening again. Checks 1137 01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:54,880 out at Patreonatreon dot com, slash slash coore history um. Check out our 1138 01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,840 website software history dot com for some merch dance. We're in a pretty smart 1139 01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,800 freedom torches. Check out the episode. Listen to that episode. Please like 1140 01:17:02,279 --> 01:17:08,000 and subscribe, believe a review five stars, and then write a review on 1141 01:17:08,079 --> 01:17:11,880 Apple just five stars on Spotify. That's hugely helpful. Please thank you. 1142 01:17:12,279 --> 01:17:16,439 Dan shared a nice review we got on his socials today. Yeah it did. 1143 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:20,560 Also. Thank you MWM five three six seven from Discord for the topic. 1144 01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:25,399 Thanks so much, man or woman. I don't know really appreciate that. 1145 01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:30,760 Oh I had to shout out th K. I'm a downer though this 1146 01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:32,720 one. Yeah, this one was fun. I like talking about big just 1147 01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,159 talking about like the eighteen hundred nine to eleven that's cool. I mean you 1148 01:17:36,239 --> 01:17:42,079 talked about a flood that was funny, though slowly because it was sugar and 1149 01:17:42,159 --> 01:17:46,359 only like seventeen people. Dad, whatever, grow up. I want to 1150 01:17:46,399 --> 01:17:49,439 say shout out to Whiskey Sours for his review. I didn't read the title 1151 01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:54,920 of it until later because I was reading it last week or whatever. I 1152 01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:59,439 appreciate the title of his review, deep cut reference. Play it for the 1153 01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:03,399 dogs. I don't get that. We say it all the time in the 1154 01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:06,199 beginning of the podcast. You don't have the first year of the podcast. 1155 01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:10,000 You don't have to listen to it. Oh yeah, yeah the guns. 1156 01:18:10,079 --> 01:18:12,680 Just put it on for your dogs. Oh yeah, yeah, you know 1157 01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,560 what I mean. The only person remembers anything that gets said on this podcast. 1158 01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:16,960 Yeah, probably I forget most of it, but I do remember that 1159 01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,600 because it was my lines. But yeah, just put it on for your 1160 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:21,720 dog. Yeah, just let it ride you leave. You don't like its 1161 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:26,680 actually very go to the back catalogs, start from the beginning, and just 1162 01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,359 play it for the dog all the way through. If you think your dog 1163 01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,640 needs to hear voices while you're gone, or if you don't want people breaking 1164 01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,239 in and they think it's just a bunch of weird dudes talking about weird history. 1165 01:18:34,399 --> 01:18:36,520 Damn, we're talking trying to break in this house. It's three dudes. 1166 01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:40,439 They're just talking about the dumbest shit. Yeah, do that. But 1167 01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,000 yeah, that's it for us, guys, So thanks so much for listening. 1168 01:18:43,079 --> 01:18:45,560 Tell people about the Patreon and for Dan Regester and Rob Fox. I'm 1169 01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:47,800 Jake Goldman. You just got us off stairs.