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Nice. Nice So week, what's up everybody. It's very exciting Thursday special
guest episode. We have very special guests since for the first time, I'm
meeting Ruby Wren, which is Dylan's sister, who Dylan is somebody I've known
I don't know how many years now about ten years, and it's the first
time I'm meeting you, even though we're over Zoom. Thank you so much
Ruby for coming in coming on our zoom. Absolutely, very very nice to
meet both of you. It's awesome to have you, and of course we
have our boy Patrick in the studio. Great to be here. Thanks for
having both of you. Bad TV. You guys can check them out on
bad TV. Highly recommend because I'm like totally listening. Now. You got
my ear Hi, hi stuff, my microphone is my mic is cold?
Yeah, well warm it up. Let's do some hot potting. So yeah,
we're gonna, uh, we're gonna discuss a lot of bad TV.
Yeah, but most importantly, you guys want to start with I think we
should dive right into Love Is Blind. Love is Blind amazing season. Yeah,
but the last season was so absolutely terrible that this I can't tell if
this season is amazing just based on its merits or if because last season was
so horrible, I am but this season is good? Yeah, what do
you think? How many blindfolds do you give? It? Rubly? We
talked about this on I don't know when it was pop, but this is
the They traumatized us last season and they tortured us and it was really inappropriate.
And I think that this time they got normal ish people that are insane.
And I truly think that it's like a like a ninety right now.
I don't know what's going to happen, big fan Thom, Yes, I
agree. Last season was zanob that was that was two seasons before that was
season two, so that was I'm old, right, who was last season?
Give me one couple and then I'll be all good. Oh right,
and uh, that's the spicy Latina Milton? Yes, and Milton and yeah?
Oh and the two what's the girl and the guy that you said?
Right? Remember their remember guy? No, the black and the white girl
that you said he was actually living in a different cities. So that's Milton.
So no, no, wait, I'm thinking of so the only couple
that survived last season where they said yes at the altar. She stayed in
Texas despite them getting engaged or married, and he moved to lost Uh to
Long Beach to take a job, so they don't even live with each other.
Okay, that was the reunion we went to, right, No,
that was the season before. Didn't we go to the reunion with Milton.
No? That was Zach and Bliss and and I think you guys are thinking
of Chelsea and right, thank you, yes kwame kwamme there you go.
Yes, and those two are still together and Zach and Bliss and Tiffany and
Brett. That season is very clear to me. That season really got,
in my opinion, the series back on track because there it was. There
was quite a lot of drama in that and then of course we had the
low that was the following season, which was absolutely terrible. But this season,
I am going to say, it's very entertaining. A lot of they
actually a lot of my gripes that I had about the show in the past.
They actually kind of introduced those, not saying that anybody listens to me,
but they made the pod time longer so that you got to know the
characters a little bit more. And then now people are complaining, why'd we
stay in the pods? It was too much time in the podcast? And
I agree, I agree, I agree. I was like, we were
episode five episodes in and and I was like, these motherfuckers are not even
going to stay together. Like a lot of them, it changes as soon
as they meet. So I'm like, well enough with the Okay, we
get it, you're you're in love, but we'll see right. But I
think that was their way of trying to get you involved in really like their
mac story, into their backstories and characters, so then when you got out,
you'd be more emotionally connected to them. That being said, didn't work
the episodes also, if you notice they went longer with them, Every single
episode was over an hour. You watched that first season where Gielanam and Lady
fell down the slide and a wedding, how could you forget? Yeah,
those were like thirty four minute episodes. And watch the last season. Yeah,
so they're making them longer and longer in the pods as well. Okay,
I believe this is from seven, eight and nine, but I want
your take on the Kenneth and Brittany breakup. Yes, because I went,
I'm gonna just say one thing. I watched the breakup. I what the
first my first go around, I watched all the episodes twice because I watch
once just for my own enjoyment, right, because I can do that,
and I to see it immediately and then I rewatch it so I can take
notes. So upon first viewing of the Brittany Kenneth breakup, I was like,
oh my god, this guy sucks. He's kind of gaslighting her,
like she's just trying to She's been trying and trying and trying, and he's
trying to come up with an excuse and she's saying, hey, I just
don't feel like you're that into me, and he's like, no, you're
the one, and then they break up. But when I watched it back,
I was like, I feel like we're not seeing something because he says
to her basically like I don't think you have the crave for me, Like
I'm approaching you a lot, and you're always like I'm busy, I'm busy,
I'm busy, and I think you don't have the crave for me.
And she doesn't argue, did you know as out as that she did not?
Yeah, she didn't put up a fight. She didn't say, well,
that's not true. I've been I am opened. He was basically saying,
like, you're not making me feel like a man because when I do
try to kiss you or whatever. Now, yes, he did way her
up in the middle of the night, and she was like, dude,
I have to work in the morning. But he said, this is how
you show up though a lot like it wasn't just that time. It's been
many times where I come over. And then when she says we've never we
don't even make out. We never made out. I wasn't one hundred percent
sure that that meant he refuses to make out or that means like I haven't
wanted to make out with you, and that tells me something's wrong. There's
no crave between us. And she said I want to feel the way I
did in the Pods, which was, oh my god, hold me back,
hold me back, like I can't wait to be all over this guy,
and I'm not. I felt like she was saying, and I don't
think I'm feeling that way, and I don't think you're feeling that way,
but he said, I do feel that way. What do you think Ruby?
I think you're totally right. I think that she probably I feel like
it's one of those things where she's like trying to get him to do the
thing that she doesn't want to do, which is say like we're just not
into each other, which is fine. I think. I don't think that
he's this sociopathic. I don't think he could get away with being a principal
and doing like he can't be this on his phone and like non emotive all
the time. So I don't know if they like had already decided it was
done or something of that nature, and she's just a very good actress or
something, but it was it was weird from both of them. It was
like she was putting things down, nobody was picking it up, no one
was taking accountability, and they were both saying the exact same thing to each
other and then they just ended and it was bizarre, right, And she's
defended him on social media. She's basically said he's being misdepicted. He wasn't
on his phone all the time. So I feel like they tried. I
know, we all people say this and they say this, I think you
got a bad edit. Okay, so too, just so for people just
to the fourth ball, break the fourth wall with the show. So it's
the show structure is there's fifteen guys, fifteen girls, and of course we
usually they have five couples that they follow out. They were one of those
couple where I feel like I never really felt the chemistry between them talking in
the pods and it was kind of like this could They tried to convince themselves
into it, and then when they got out there was really nothing there.
So it kind of felt like they were just friends the entire time. Yes,
and I think that friend is really a nice person. I think he
used to and I think she really wanted to allow him to have this experience
being on TV. And I think, you know he if you go look
stuff up on social media. He was did an appearance on The Ellen Show
as this principle like he's got this thing where like he's trying to change young
lives and do this thing with the school good friend. I think she was
kind of protecting him and he was kind of protecting her, and they were
going to show like an interracial relationship and how it can work. And then
I think in the end though they were both like this, what has happened?
Yeah, what are we doing. I'd rather sleep in my own bed.
It's kind of like dating someone you're really not into, and then you're
trying to decide if you guys are hey, are you going to sleep over
my place? And you're kind of like my own bed and watching, Yeah,
my curtains are better in my room. And I do think he got
a little bit mad that he was being misdepicted as the one that wasn't interested.
And that's why I think he got a little bit like, that's not
true. I do have vet for you. I think she never had it
for him the whole time. But she was like, you're such a nice
guy, and it's not that you're attracted to you. So, if we're
talking about a bad edit, they really went out of their way then,
because the day that was supposed to be their fun day of kind of getting
to know each other, they went out on a like a boat, right
they The way that they showed that the three scenes whatever in that episode made
it look like he was completely checked out. Yeah, they had no music,
it was just quiet. They were staring at the ocean. Yeh,
right, remember that, and then all of a sudden, she jumps up.
She goes, oh, dolphins, but it was like a weird awkward
like they did that on person to show. There's an awkward silence going on
between these two. He does love dolphin prison camps though, yeah he did,
big fan. But I will also push back on that even because she
kept saying like, do you like physical touch? Do you like physical touch?
And he's like, yeah, I like it. So when I first
watched it, I'm like, wow, she's crying out for like put your
arm round me, like touch me. But he says a couple of things
that made me think twice I was like, he said, I don't want
to come across as like oh, like he basically implied that he didn't want
to come across as like aggressive with her, like constantly right, and she
says, no, You're not going to come across that way. I think
he was overly conscious of being this principle of a school and suddenly being on
this show and like grabbing at her or like I did do a marrier too.
You get students and stuff. Wow, you know they're watching and stuff,
So it's probably in his head. By the way, there was no
emotion, like it was almost like a relief when they broke up. He's
like, come on, give me ah, give me a man. I
always love when kind it for all good to get my friend picked me up.
Two people that will be remembered as dirtbags on this show. Are you
familiar with the tea with Trevor and Jeremy? Oh yeah, okay, oh
yeah, you want to break down the game film Rubes. I don't know
about Jerami's tea, but Trevor apparently had a girlfriend this entire time and she
like okayed him going on the show, and I I would have never expected
it from Trevor. He just seems like such a duvausy nice you know,
kind of get along, easy to get along with dude. Yet why what
for Instagram likes that? So that was my question. I don't know what
I can't I don't know if he's a personal trainer or if I'm just branding
him that because he's big looks like he yeah, so sorry to him,
But what job do you or what fame are you seeking that this is going
to do good? It just it's always going to be bad when we find
out you have a girlfriend. I have no idea. Jerami, Jeremy whatever
is a serial killer I don't know what you're talking allegedly, Well, I
don't know what you're talking about specifically. He's just he was living with he
had a fiance up until and he apparently applied to be on the show while
he was still had the fiance. He was about to be a step dad.
The woman had a kid who was like I want to say six or
ten or twelve, right, I don't know how old the kid was,
but he was about to be a stepdad, applied to be on the show,
moved out, and then that's why he had just moved into that house,
which is why it looked like why he had like no furniture. He
went straight from being fianced. Now is that fiance speaking out at all?
Has anybody heard from her? I think that's it's it's all on the tiktokies.
Yeah. In fact, there's someone that just got done filming another cycle
that's already broke her NDA in talking no way, wow, kidd Now did
you guys see moving on to it's someone different? But I sent this to
you after we recorded pat on TMZ. Jessica at the airport with another so
I think did she go on Nick Vile's podcast and she hinted that she is
dating someone from the cast currently, and then we saw a picture of her
walking in through the airport with Johnny. Yeah, no, yes, it's
on TMZ. Johnny Amy's John John. Now they can just be teasing us
and she. I think the other thing, that's the other thing. They
did say something like they could have been like with other people or but I
don't think they were coming in for the fin for the reunion or something.
There's no possible way that guy would. So what they did I think TMZ
did is pulled that thing, you know, pulled what she said on Nick
Vile's show, and then saw her at the airport next to somebody else and
put it together. I agree, because they would both be hated if this
was in fact. Right, let's talk about the real stars of the Chelsea
and Jimmy, Jimmy, Yeah, let's talk. Oh my god, how
psychotic is Chelsea the very Wondred. I'll tell you when she started that first
fight with Jimmy on their honeymoon, when because Jimmy was looking at you know,
eighties as all day and uh she ok. And then and then he
they got back to the hotel room, they started when I knew that she
was really a thirty year old woman in a sixteen year old girl's body.
Was when she said to him, legit not joking in the fight, she
said, it just really made me feel uncomfy. Yeah, what what?
I've dated someone similar to Chelsea, and I had to get out of that
relationship because for fear that I'd wake up with an ice pick through my head.
Yeah, same kind of patterns. So we would go out on a
Friday night and we'd have dinner, and then we'd go see a movie and
we come like, all right, this is going great, right, don't
step on any landlines. Don't step on any landlines. Like I'd be very
cautious because I did not, because we'd fight till four in the morning.
I was very insure as well. But it would be something that she was
holding all week and then she dropped. You'd think, like, we go
back, We're at home, we had a nice night, a couple drinks
at us, We're gonna have sex or something, and it's like, you
know, I wanted to talk to you, talk. Oh, I don't
want to talk anymore. I don't like talking. It's three am. Yeah,
and it would be uh, I noticed that you mentioned your ex last
Saturday and how that made me feel. And I'm like, oh here we
go, oh joy? People really sad ta and uncomfy. I was like
having a great night. But then you said something in passing about your ex
and it didn't feel in passing. But I think something's going on. You
have unresolved feelings for her. What do you think? Yeah, were you
in the room, what's your read on her? Roviie like, I honestly
thought that he was kind of a dick at first when they first saw each
other, and he was like she lied and I was like, whatever,
fine, but you to be fair, you don't. You aren't Brad Pitt.
So I don't know what what judgments were holding. But I now like
I want a wellness check on him. I feel I agree so bad his
patience is yeah, I fear truly, And you guys all know my brother
well, Dylan and I both would have gone to jail for assault. I
think I would have her. How he's been sufferable and and she's and he's
sober and she's not, which is also another added element of frustration. His
patients is very I didn't know he was sober I didn't catch that certain not
not like ye, she's like, you know, lushing it up and on
a Wednesday night or whatever. Yeah, I know, and just picking fights,
Like I do want a wellness check. I feel for this guy now,
Like at first I was with you. At first, I was like,
I want to dick whatever. But then I'm like the patience, and
I really do think that he is genuinely trying to make it work or he
does want to look like a dick. Could be both. Both could be
true. Either they are going to make it work. I'm scared that he's
gonna he's they're gonna get married, and he's then they're gonna have to get
divorced because they're gonna have humongous Pat, you had a good prediction. What
did you think, Oh, I forget what my prediction was. Oh,
okay, so what we'll see at the the they'll get they'll get married,
right, and then we'll learn when we do the reunion that it didn't work
out. And then he went reached out to Jessica. They went on a
couple of dates and that didn't work out either. That's Pat's prediction. Yeah,
by the way, it's pretty good. Hilarious headline of the week on
TMC, Brian Austin Green weighs in on whether or not Chelsea looks like me
no way, Caylen, can you pull that up? Does? What does
he say? Do you know what he said? And he kind of stuck
up. Absolutely not, but he understood why she said it. He didn't.
He wasn't like, you know right, you know he was he was
fine about I mean, look, yeah, we saw the pods. His
ears perked up when she said that, and then make yeah, And when
did his ears perk down is when Jessica said to that she had a kid,
right right. I mean, if if you think about it, yes,
this is why we all were not team Jimmy, because he seemed to
have a weird thing about her, about Chelsea having been married before. He
seemed to have a thing about the being a dad to stepdad. But then
I think he I think I'm not saying he's great. I think he was
just like, shit, I made my bed and now I gotta lie in
it at least for the rest of this show. And I think he was
like, you know what, I think he's the kind of guy. I
think he's very codependent. I think we saw this when we talked to his
exes and his family said that he basically once he's in, like he's he's
in. And I think I think a lot of men when they when they
fall in love or when they decide, okay, I'm going to be with
this person, it's really hard to change the guy's mind and when to get
the ick a lot more easily than men do. Right, we can,
we can change, and men are more are correct in being more scared that
women are. Where are the ones that change our mind for no no apparent
reason. We're just like, I don't know. I didn't like the way
he like cut his hair exactly, and they were like, you know what,
I don't know what I was thinking. I don't know why? Why
did I? Why am I? Why are we dating? Okay, it's
over. Whereas I think, once a guy decides like I really like this
person I'm in, it's hard to change their mind. You have to be
really fucking crazy. Well, that's why I do think he's gonna run.
I do think he's gonna break at some point. I have a question for
you, guys, how do you feel about him having two female friends,
one that he admitted to sleeping with once. I thought he was an idiot
for admitting that. That's stupid. Right, I didn't cat, I didn't
catch. I didn't know that until she said it in the argument, unless
they said it when they went out, the three of them. But she
said it in an argument, like I know you fucked. Then she brought
it up, right, let's take a quick break. Yeah, and then
because we have a lot to say about this, So, I mean,
I look at it. I have guy friends I've brought, you know,
I mean Patrick and Dylan, I've dated somebody I brought my date met to
meet them. And I want, you know, you'd want to have your
husband be comfortable with you going out to have drinks with Pat and Dylan or
whatever. Sure, right, but I understand, but with like, all
right, So when I first started dating my wife, there was a girl
that I was still hanging out with that I had been intimate with, and
we were still friends and had been friends for a couple of years and went
out and do things. And I had to kind of time out when I
was going to tell my wife this because I didn't want it to make it
look like she get like sideswiped with this later on and then like you had
her around me at you know, all these times, and like I didn't
know this, So at some point I shared it with her, and then
I think we hung out with this this girl that I dated like two more
times, and she said, do we have to do that anymore? And
I was like, no, we don't have to do that anymo. So
I kind of had to cut it off because, you know, I realized
Sari was going to be the one yes, and then that I understood that
put her in that position, right, So I can see I can see
that, and I can see that Jimmy had had sex with the one girl
and they were friends and it was weird that they've been friends for two years.
That was strange, and that is best friends and he hangs out with
them all the time. I can kind of see Chelsea's point a little bit.
On the other hand, you just met Chelsea, I don't I think
it's a little quick to drop all your friends. And that was her thing.
It was like her whole thing in that fight was like, we need
to be spending twenty four to seven together and under the guise of the experiment,
we have to be invested in the experiment. Well, the part of
this experiment, I think is that people on no other show do people get
their phones back? You know, you don't see this on The Bachelor.
The whole experiments this work in the real world. You had your honeymoon,
your a little vacation, but now you're at home and you're going to work.
You know, let's see if it still works. And for some of
them it doesn't work. So it's a false thing to go like, no,
we should be acting like we were on vacation and you should be with
me twenty four to seven, and stop's setting attachment because even when she was
buying her wedding dress, she was like a mashim. I wish she was
here, you know, it's like, what the By the way, that's
a great point, Stephanie. I wish The Bachelor, which you still cover
with rose pricks, would actually integrate that in. So after we see them
pick each other, I'd watch another four weeks of how they followed them around
for four months getting to know each other or living with each other, or
sneaking around the fact that you don't see that. It's just the next time
you find out is at the tell all or whatever. Yeah, and it's
like, yeah, it didn't work out, or we're still in love,
but we've only seen each other for five minutes anyway, Sorry, right,
I agree, I agree, this is a much more realistic. Also,
during that crazy fight, she she did so many weird tactics of trying to
trigger him and trying to the thing where she was lying and saying, well,
my friends, all my friends saw you. They saw you were with
Jessica. And he was like, he's almost laughing because he's like this is
insane, Like, well, no, I wasn't. And then she he's
like, who told you that? Well people, what people? Mackenzie,
Okay, well nobody told me that. He's like, okay, yeah,
because I wasn't with Jessica. It was like and then when he said you're
fishing so a toxic he was mature enough to not get pulled into that.
But I've seen a couple of these things. I'm clearly I'm a podcaster,
not an expert in psychology, but you could see yeah, I know,
shocking, right, but she I could see this based on people that I've
dated, that she kind of the way that she gets that she feels loved
is engaging him in the fighting, so she almost kind of gets off on
it, and it's based off the unhealthy relationship patterns that she had with past
relationships, which clearly were talks. And so yeah, I think that she's
definitely go ahead. Really, but wherever you go, there you are.
I mean she's probably broadcast into her past relationships. Yeah, exactly, and
regardless of what she's dealing with thirty years old. And I mean this sincerely,
you should go to therapy and figure it out. It is not this
literal stranger's job now to take on all of your shit, because this person
should not Like he if I came home and my significant other was like you
were with a person that I was not with, I would be like,
are you on drugs? But what conversation are we having right now? I
like I said, I would hit her probably, I don't know. It
was insane to me. Yeah, she's a teenager still, like she's such
a she's just she needs help. And it's really scary because what happens is
it becomes harder to argue it than to just go, Okay, I guess
I just won't go and see anybody or do anything because I know how it
makes her so uncomfy and sad. I'm sad. I'm just sad when you
go out without me. When he was like, but she's like, you
didn't invite me, he said, but you knew you you knew you could
come right, but you didn't want to. And she's like, exactly,
because I wanted to go to bed. So you can't ever win. So
you are with the person, and then you find yourself thirty years old and
not having any kind of life because anything you do threatens your partner. And
then you just get smaller and smaller and smaller and have no opinions. And
I mean, I think, and she becomes this monster. I just hope
Jimmy can see this. I really do. Do you think you're seeing it?
Yeah? I can't figure him out. I can't tell if he's just
a you know, like a golden retriever or if he's realizing, you know
too, Like I was watching that fight and I felt like that was the
very like the second fight, the when you were stuff out, and I
felt like he was like seeing red flags, red flags. And I don't
think this is ever gonna go away anytime soon. In any normal relationship,
I would assume if one partner was doing this to the other the other part
and would just say this is too in toxic. I gotta get out of
here. Yeah. So at the end of the fight, right, So
the next it's the next day and she's she's the one who we see her
say please don't leave, Please don't leave, Please don't leave. But it's
kind of both our fault, right, But it's kind of both our fault.
Yeah, no, not at all. He owns it. He's like,
yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, we both played a
part. No, you played no part. And once you once you wear
somebody down to go like, okay, I guess I played a part.
Then he's gonna think I guess my part was going out for a drink.
So I guess next time I need to And then at the end of the
end, end of the fight, make me some cookies. I can't I
can't argue with you because you're so cute and that shirt, yeah, dressing
so cute. Others that are going to be attracted to you, and then
I'm going to be brilliant. How about the pattern? And I experienced this
with that person that I mentioned earlier when the fight wasn't going well for and
she was out of ammunition, and she was kind of like, damn it.
Then like a light switch, I'd be walking to the door, going
I'm gonna sleep in my own apartment, and then she turned it on,
like it was like turned into like a little girl voice. Right, she
does the little girl yes, you like yes. She goes into the bathroom,
gets in his face. What are you doing? Don't lead stop stop,
It's like this, this girl is just she's a mess. I want
to I want to say. I want to say though that I relate in
certain ways, certain old behaviors of my own when I was in my well,
even with John at the beginning of the relationship, it's it's really hard,
like when you feel needy and you've had childhood shit like I do remember
trying to cause drama with John. It was like a testing thing, picking
fights and storming out and then but like the first time you storm out and
the guy doesn't come after you, Yeah, then you feel moded, moded
and corroded, and then you go home and obsess and go, oh,
I fucked all right, oh no, And then John calls like a mature
adult, But not until like the next day, at like five o'clock in
the evening when I've been like in a cold sweat all day, going oh
shit, I think I went too far. And then he calls and he
doesn't want and he wants to keep it calm, and he doesn't take responsibility,
right, he just goes, Okay, is this or is this gonna
be how it goes? And then I have to go. Then the next
time that I get that fight or flight and I want to just go,
well, then fuck off, like I guess you don't love me enough and
want to storm out. I have to go. Don't. You can't.
I'm not gonna feel it's gonna feel worse later when you're home alone. Yeah,
as long as we're all confessing, I've also been the yerk in my
twenties dating a girl that I'm really into that does not want it to go
out on a Friday night and hang out with her friends. So we've all
we all have a little bit of Chelsea of course, right, but you
grow out of it, and maybe she's gonna grow out of it. I
don't know. I mean, maybe, well she's just beyond though. But
if she is, she's taking it to a level that I think because maybe
we've all done something a little bit. We can all see it and go,
oh my god. But I didn't do that, Like, you know
what the show needs, you know, like a married at first sight,
a relationship expert. Yes they need doctor Peppa. Yes they need a doctor
Peppa. Who husband she does? You're giving relationship course? Yeah, the
truck. I was gonna say, similarly to this season of Mary to first
Sight, there's a couple there. I don't know if it's harder for the
guys now when they're not sexually attracted to the girls to try and like walk
back this weird like thing that they're dealing with. And I think that like
I don't. I don't. Again, I don't particularly think that Jimmy is
the most stunning man on the face of the planet. And I happened to
think that Chelsea is a perfectly cute pretty girl. So I Megan Fox is
Megan Fox. She shouldn't have brought that up. This is weird though.
This type of behavior to me makes me feel like whatever happened to her in
her past relationships is like beyond his He can't fix this, it's not going
to be fixable. And he also is in this head space of Like,
I thought that I was going to get to be fucking Jess for the next
however many months until we broke up, and now I'm here and I have
to get out of this or I don't. But also now she's crazy,
So Jesus fucking Christ, I feel terrifle for him. I don't know.
Do we want to go around? Yeah, three couples left. Well,
do we want to talk about Jeremy and Laura he at all about that fight
at the barbecue or anything? Oh my god? And Layah is another Sarah
Anne is just a fucking nightmare. She self identifies as a patriot. I
mean, do we need information now about her? Except where was she on
January six? That's the thing. All we need, all our questions.
I didn't know, I didn't see. I don't know any of this stuff.
And Jeremy is a person who would be into identifies as a patriot.
I think that's all we need to know about these people. Here's what's kind
of good, because what makes amazing reality TV are horrible people, and ninety
percent of this cast is horrible. They're horrible people, they really are.
Like I love Laura for what she did to Jeremy right. I love how
she stuck it to him, but that whole like flipping a tit thing,
She's basic as fuck. Oh she's the worst. Laura's terrible too, the
b nip thing and that was weird and the weird nitpicky like, oh we
can't those shirts that he wears. Yeah. The thing that's so funny is
that Laura thought she had all the hand in the relationship. So Laura was
just like at the Hawaiian shirts, ick giving me the egg? That was
this giving me the egg, you better be really clean. And then the
second she was like, oh shit, he's not actually that into me.
Then she's like all sadtional about it, like, bitch, you didn't really
like him that much. I love though, how she was able to basically
when he didn't come home that night, she was able to be like you
know, this is it, Like that's no way you're getting away right right.
Well, he fucked up because he was like, I I turned my
location on so that you wouldn't have to worry, so you could find me.
Well, apparently he left his Apple Watch on like he was wearing an
Apple Watch. So even though he left his phone somewhere in his car.
He was doing he was trying to be freaking cross. He did yes,
so he had his location on. So he thought he had like plausible deniability
that he was at the bar in the parking lot because he but no,
he left his phone in the car. He turned his location off on his
phone or left it at the so the last place it would have recorded.
But then she was like, bitch, nah, I got you. She
was like, you went, You were not at the park Because he was
like, well, maybe I was on the side of the parking lot,
but I was at the parking lot. She's like, no, you were
nowhere near the parking lot. You went, And I think I read that
it was because he was wearing an Apple wa watch. That's gotten like people,
a lot of husbands I think caught actual loops. I'll say this,
I started like a rule in my own head, like when I date a
person, it's starting to get serious. Nothing good happens after midnight when you're
out with your friends, Like come on now, like you got to respect
the relationship. The fact that he stayed out till five thirty, I mean,
people have different dynamics in their relationships, and clearly this is a crazy
one because it's on a TV show. But I just think that just crossed
the line in such a way that you can't have trust anymore. I agree.
Well, he was also with the woman that he was choosing between,
like there's no there's no situation, and she knew. Laura knew that the
that Sarah Ann DMed him right, like you know, so, I mean,
I have some respect, dude. And also he was he didn't like,
he wasn't into Laura. He was being fake. But as I thought
when they're on their honeymoon, to me, I thought he really was.
I was like, really, is he really because he did seem all right,
guys are pigs. It could be excited because I'm going to have sex
with a stranger. Yes, yeah, okay, well that makes sense.
That's what I'm thinking. On their honeymoon, there was some scenes where he
was like, where's my wife? I love my wife, my wife,
my wife, my wife, but like I just didn't. I don't know.
But then he he and he saw a picture of Sarah Ambough right,
and he was like, oh shit, what do you think, Rubs.
I think that Sarah. I think that Laura gives very mean girl energy.
And I don't love that just in general, but when it's being directed toward
him, I can't argue with it. I also thought that she was quite
eloquent when she was saying, like, I agreed, nobody was interested in
anybody and this is completely fake. But when she was like, your job
when you propose to somebody is now to have enough respect for me to like
protect my feelings and it is not just you anymore, and we have to
do things while you're thinking about the other person. And I was like,
I don't. I think anyone on the show has ever ever had that much
or sight or been able to speak English that well. So cheers, I
agree, And then she ended it with go cake rocks with the open toe
shoe, although she'd been plotting that line for a while. She was like,
you know what I'm gonna tell him. I'm gonna say, go kick
rocks without shoes on it, And then she thought she was like really whipping
went out. She was like, honey, the Crammers were on you earlier
when you plot when you came up with that, but you're you're right.
You touched on something Ruby that I noticed about Laura early on is she was
that mean girl vibe like she was. First of all, she went and
told Jessica in the pond in the Pods that, uh, you know you
need to leave, you need to leave because he just said I love you
to Chelsea or whatever, and it's like, that's not really what happened.
I don't think, and so like, and then she's all up. You
know, she's supposed to be like, she's supposed to be Chelsea's homegirl,
right because they're all together. But then Jessica shows up and she's all up
Jessica's ass like anything that makes Chelsea feel, I don't know, it's just
it's weird. Also, the whole thing with going back to that bean dip
thing when she was when she got mad at him and was like it was
a joke you were Why were you joking? Why were you doing that?
Why were you flipping somebody's nipples? And also she has freaking weird energy.
I don't know, if you remember in the Pods, she'd do weird things,
like all of a sudden, she'd be like Sleigh, yes, yes,
and I was trying to bond ad and be like and she has a
bra sleg yeah, yeah, she needs to wear a bra and Also remember
in the pod she was talking about how she picks it. We were talking
about this on Pat show. But how creepy she was when she was talking
about how she picks up on guys, like she would go to like the
home depot aisle. But the worst one was when she was like then I
would get really drunk and be in a bar and just stare them down,
and I'm like, oh my god. It was scary, Like she I
just just like she probably did that in her audition. Yeah, so she
was probably giving and they were like, do that again, Like that thing
you talked about in your audition about how you pick up on guys? Can
you recreate that in the pods with the women. I wish we had footage
of the uncomfortable conversation with the manager at home Deepole, who had to tell
her she can't stand in the aisle all day. I know, where is
that? How about before we before we move on to vander Pump, how
about real quick? The conversation between a D and Sarah Anne was profitless.
It was priceless, but she was like girl that was kind of wild.
Watched I watched that scene twice because she was spot A D was spot she
should be a lawyer. She was spot on. I think she was great.
I love a d and I love all right. So there's a couple
of people. The one thing you got to give it to Clay is he
is basically putting it all out there. He's putting his doubts on this process.
I'm not sure if that should gain him any points, but I kind
I at least appreciate the transparency. I will say, I forget what AD's
mother's name is, but she's co signed on this without knowing the background.
And I don't like people get all in. That's Jacqueline, Jacqueline, Jaqueline,
Jack Jacqueline. And then there was Mama Margarita, Mama May Who's yeah,
his mom is Margarita. I tell Jacqueline Jacqueline, what you don't know
about him is that his father used to put him in the back seat of
the car, not to take him to a friend's house, but to be
a wingman because he was sleeping with another woman outside of his corriage for the
entire marriage, right, But both moms knew that, and both moms lectured
both of these people about how you got to try to make this work,
Like, hey, just because our marriages didn't work out. We had twenty
three great years together. Did you really did you have great years together?
Those pillows have a lot of tears on. Okay, all right, let's
take a quick break, Let's take more break and then right, all right,
weddings. Can we just do our like Ron table? Our opinion?
Is there anybody that actually gets married and has because I've been fooled before,
So I think Amy and Johnny are very pure. I think, you know,
in worst case, they signed up for the show because they thought it'd
be fun, and then they actually like found someone that they like. But
I've been fooled before because I cannot remember the guy's name. But he married
a girl named Raven, and he had me, had me, won over,
sold me on. I love the guy. I'm like, wow,
it's nice that we actually have, like even a professional I forget, like
in tech or whatever. And it turns out he was cheating on her with
two different women the entire time breaks my heart. So who will break my
heart? And I hope it's not Johnny and a. I think Johnny and
Amy one hundred percent are getting married. I think they've been trying to give
us edit in little things that could possibly be red herrings, like oh,
but they can't agree on birth control. I think it's such a non issue.
I think these two are getting married. I agree, real till Clay,
Yeah, what do you think? Yes, Johnny and Amy? I
mean I know because I have to fast forward through all their scenes, so
they're so boring, all right, Ad and Clay. I don't think they're
getting married. I think that he wants to, but he's like, I
just might have to cheat someday. But yeah, they do love you,
and I want to go with you to the moon, like you said I
want. He's going to say I don't. I think he's going to say
I do, and she's gonna say I don't. I don't think. I
think she's going to say you're not ready. There's been too many things you've
said. But I think they're going to maybe date. Okay, Well she
said she didn't want to do that. I know, but she might do
it. If she's the one who says no, she might be opening the
door, like you know what I'm saying. Like, I think he might
be like, okay, yes, and then she's going to go you're not
actually ready. But because she said it, because she was the one who
said no. I think she's given going to give herself an out to continue
dating him, right, that's my prediction. Ruby, you go first.
I hope that she'd not marry him. I don't know if he I don't
have enough stage wisdom. Perhaps he will grow out of this. I think
it's very difficult when you come from a place where you were wing manning your
father and where he said in like the first episode, like his dad was
his idol. I would hope that ad finds someone who respects her enough to
not have any worry that they will cheat repeatedly for twenty six years. That
those are my thoughts on the two of them. I agree. I don't
think they get engaged or married to wherever the heck it is how they're engaged.
I hope they don't get married because I think Clay could be a wonderful
husband someday, but not until he does more work on himself and mature a
little today to take Clay not today, Clay not all day today. And
there's those are the only two. This is going to be a really boring
episod. But what about Chelsea? No, we got Chelsea? What's his
name, Oh, oh, how do you forget those two? I think
I think he's going to say no. I think he's going to say do
you think he wants to be an ice pick through his head on it?
On that stage? I don't think so well. I mean, but he
keeps insisting he's going to say, yes, what do you guys make of
And you know what, we'll have already seen. We'll already know this because
this episode is going to air on the next day. We're already going to
have seen it, or people that are obsessed with it like we are,
we'll have seen it. But I mean he at the cliffhanger to the last
episode that we saw, he was telling her like, I know, I'm
going to say yes basically, but where are you? And then they have
like a weird extra long but you know that's always to throw you off.
So but is she really going to say, like, yeah, well,
my answer is going to be yes, they wouldn't do that, right,
would they say? Would they haven't both say we're saying yes, yeah they
do. Right, first you speak first and you say yes or no?
Right, But I mean, would they have them having a conversation before we
get to the altar where is she gonna in that end of that scene that
we saw where he's like, I know where my head's at. I'm gonna
say, what about you? Do you think they're gonna end that scene with
her going I'm gonna say, yes, they can't, because I think that
she might give some sort of maybe X. I don't know. I don't
think she's going to give a definitive answer. I don't know. She's crazy,
She's They're honestly fifty to fifty for me, I really have no idea.
I could see both of them saying no, and both of them saying
yes, and godspeed to whatever happens to him. Well, he needs to
go and witness protection. Yes, he's go find a vacuum cleaner. I'm
gonna say one more thing before we go to vander Pump. But about her,
I do think she's the kind of person who is actually charming and funny
and nice outside of her relationship. I think as soon as she gets triggered
and she's obsessed and she loses her fucking shit is torture to all her friends
kill the guy, right. But when she's not, I have a feeling
because we've been seeing her on social media, and she's being like very self
effacing and like cute and funny, which makes me think she's not with him
anymore. Okay, okay, okay, all right, vander Pump. A
couple of minute, you guys, let's see we want to do a little
vander Pump. We're covering it. You're covering I'm not watching it, but
I'm not watching it either. Oh you're not all right, So this is
tough. I'll say this. I'm watching it. I know what's going on
going on? All right, Ruby, do you want to describe this season
in a nutshell? Maybe I will watch it. M Well, I'm not
after this description. Perhaps I think that they're just trying to make it this
very intense experience because we had such a crazy time last time. But in
reality, this is a group of forty ish year old people who have babies
and children, and one of them had an affair and now everybody hates him,
and now since nobody wants to film with him, he is threatened that
he might kill himself. So Lisa vander Pump is now basically saying, would
you guys want that to be on your hands? And everyone's like, well,
I guess not, and so now we're just watching a bunch of people
be like, well, I guess I have to do this, and other
people will be like no, principally no, I won't. I refuse,
and that's what we're doing. I'll say this. It's still shot beautifully and
it's shot almost exclusively. I did not know that. You know, when
they do the drone aerials shot to set up as you know, the every
single one has my backyard in it. That's crazy. I did not know
they were I thought they were in West I mean, I know the restaurants
are there, but like all live here. This is crazy. Yes?
Is that what's good? Because I did park? Yeah, okay, so
I didn't know if Sandoval was in the season or not and how that was
going to work. Is his ex in the season because she's suing him?
So they just dropped a lawsuit on Friday that she's suing him Ruby, do
you know the deeps on this? The details are, yeah, that he
recorded her when they were like FaceTime masturbating. And that's like how his girlfriend
found out about this affair was because she was looking at a photo and saw
this video video yeah, oh yeah, yeah, and then she shared it,
which is now revenge porn because you've shared it with other people. So
I don't know what do we know what she's suing for the amount? No?
Who is suing? Is it the girl friend he had an affair with?
Yes, is suing him? And Rachel? And yeah? And oh?
And Arian is not in the show? On the show she is?
Oh? Yeah? And where is he? Just living in an apartment by
himself? Nobody wants to finishes in the same house. That's the best part
of the show. Okay, it's over on a cold water and Fulton and
are no Magnolian cold water And they're still living in the house together, and
they have an assistant who acts as the mediator between the two of them to
get through the entire day. Wow, So that that part is kind of
fun. But apparently they've not spoken at all to each other. No,
No, Caylin, do you want to say anything? Two things I should
just point out. I think it came out yesterday that la Law is pregnant
again. That's right, I think it was. I think it was a
sperm donor. Oh, I believe yes. And then I just needed to
ask Ruby Ruby, am I a horrible person for loving James? Kennedy.
He's fantastic. He's endlessly entertaining to me. Well, I will say,
because I never watched the show, but I know, of course what's going
on. I mean in general, but I watched special ops on Fox last
season with Sandoval, and I'm like, this guy's a babe, first of
that, but you but I don't know him. I don't, But then
I get to get like his personality. He's dumb as a box of rocks.
But he freaking lasted on that show almost towards the end. He made
it very close. He was at the very bitter end. Were their mental
challenges there too? Right, that's when the mental challenges when he when he
dropped, because when they like like tortured him and put him in a thing.
And can I tell you about in his white nail polish, one of
these human beings that have gotten where they are in life because they are just
very good looking, right he is. You can tell all the opportunities that
have been thrown his ways because he's extremely good looking. Right, That was
my point, Like at first, I was like, oh, this guy
looks like a model, Like he's a good looking guy, But then you
get to know him and he talks and it's like, shut up. Reminds
me of Napoleon Dynamite a lot. When he gets sad, he goes,
oh geez, god, can I tell you how pathetic the pr machine is
for this show in Bravo though, and we, by the way, come
listen to our recaps of it on bad TV. Will But they just Brittany
and Jackson who have a show launching called The Valley, which shows him opening
a bar on the ur Away Boulevard. Sorry called Jacks anyway, do we
have just such a hunger for new restaurants opening them? Like? Who?
Why? Now? I know? So I just saw them with their kid
at that the same part that we hang out with with Ellie and Quinton,
like two weeks ago, and then last week or late the end of last
week, they just announced that they've been separated, and it just it just
so happens that the debut of their new show, The Valley starts in a
week and a half. Oh interesting. So it's like, we see what
you're doing there, right, like give me a bank, all right?
But it is also, I will say, speaking about how dumb these people
aren't, how they've only gotten to where they are because of what they look
like. Jack's Taylor the day that like TMZ or page six or somebody like
filmed his wife moving into her new house, came out of the gym and
didn't like understand he was supposed to be in on this and was like,
no, we're living in the same roof and everything's good with our family.
And then like a day later it was like we are separated. Wow,
they are dumb, really dumb, very dumb. Wow. Okay, did
you guys always do a little single life? Are you watching ninety day or
you don't watch ninety eighty? Stuff? I should? Should I be watching
it? Tell me? I freaking love Natalie like she's need's her own show.
She's just she's a star. She thinks she's a star. She's yeah,
she's the most craziest ninety Day it is, And it's the only version
I can tolerate because it's only an hour. The other nineteen versions of it,
and there are nineteen versions of ninety Day, are all two hours long.
Yeah, this is called ninety day the single life. The single life
they take kind of former cast members that have broken it off with whoever they
were on the origine where their origin is origin season was and then they find
a new partner and we get to see that she moves to La and whatever.
But I fast forward through a lot of it just to get to her
really like she's fantastic TV because she is just in her she just thinks that
she's but you know she's Russian. No, no, she's she's escaped there
before they turn that place into a pancake, right right right. But she's
like there's text messages of her that were leaked on social media, like coming
after guys like that. She thinks, are producers TV producers going like I
need to be on your show, Like I'm a star. Just put me
on your reality show. You will make a lot of money. Just put
me on. And they're like, well, you have a contract with ninety
with the Discovery nowver. She's like, I could break it, no problem.
She's like she wants to be on a Bachelor, Like she's crazy.
It sounds you would love it, Stephanie. Yeah, just yeah, I'll
tell I'll tell you where. Russian Ukrainian women are always the craziest. And
I say that speaking as somebody for a full Russian descent, but I mean,
oh my gosh, the way you people are raised in Russia. It's
just like a cold very just your mentality, it's just a different mentality.
Yeah, she has a lot of those. Call what do you think about
Josh Frantifa. Josh is a scumback. He has a house in Arizona,
He never lived in La. He wanted to be on TV. He owns
like kind of like basically almost a version of a porn company, higher models
for things, almost almost to porn company. I think it is a porn
company. But it's alleged that this is when Natalie got herself hooked up.
Yeah, because he's got a great picker. So but but he dumped her,
but basically or she dumped him. I think he was done being I
think he was he's done being on TV. I think he's done being on
TV and done. The producers are like, well, you said in the
scene you just did that. You're going to help her out with the rent?
Are you really going to do that? And he says absolutely not.
He he moves her out to LA and it's like promising her job and acting
and then also a job as a secretary and getting her and her mother,
who could fled Ukraine a house out here. And forget, and the fiat
that he got her a car, and and but she wants more. It's
not enough, it's not enough. He doesn't pick her up from the airport
when she arrives in la and never invites, never invites her over to his
house. The clip that we should send you though, to get you hooked
on it is when his friends who are producers come over to her studio apartment
for dinner and they're seated half on her bed, half in their chairs,
and everybody is uncomfortable, and they're eating Ukrainian food, and then she takes
the opportunity to recite a like Russian Shakespearean monologue. Oh, everybody's uncomfortable.
It was awesome, so great. Yeah, are they uncomfortable or are they
uncomfy? I think they love it. They told her, like, you
know, they saw a lot of talent in that They're gonna put her in
a horror movie. A horror movie. There's clips of her in movies that
were in Ukraine. Oh really, I can't get enough of her. Anything
you find ever, send it to me. Yeah, single Life, We
cover that. Vander Pump Rules and Blow Deck all on the Bad TV.
Oh I love Blow Deck Oh my god, I'm so listening. I love
you guys. I love bad TV. Big fan just joined their Patreon and
listen, I'm just saying, Rose Priss, Yes, our Patreon. We
are also covering you know, if you like, you could, you could
be a member of all of them. But we are covering Love is Blind,
right and our patriots. Good to get a mixture of what everybody's like.
I just can't get enough of it. I love it. You want
to hear what everybody's thought. We had a great collab with with you guys
with for Love is Blind Episode one. Yes, yes, we did episode
one. People loved Day. Maybe we should air this show if we can
on Wednesday because Wednesday is the wedding. Sure we could do that. I
think we should do that Wednesday. Yeah, this Wednesday, we could do
that. I also wanted to just throw a little shout out if you're a
big below Deck fan. We didn't talk about it today, but I watched
Below Deck and Fraser is the chief stew on this current season, and do'an
and Pat had him in studio and I was here and he was, are
you god? So nice? He was fantastics. I love him. You
had him in studio. Yeah, he's great. Where is he? I
want to meet him. He's going to come out and be in studio in
June. He's in Colorado. I don't like all the sea rats hang out
there in between two. I love him. Have you tried to have you
reached out to my friend who is the casting director for Below Deck. I
told her you could have her on. All right? All right? You
know I have a co host that's a pain in the ass. I don't
know if you knew that. Do you know that Adam's first me Adam.
One last thing about Adam's roommate. When I started dating Adam. Courtland Cox
is the executive producer. Blowdecks on all of their every time we see the
opening Courtland Cox. Okay, shut up because Courtland Cox. If it's the
same person, I used to have a fat crush on him, and you're
like, oh, I worked on him. He was a writer on a
show that I read on for VH one. Yeah that's him. Yeah,
he's tall and he's got like blonde, like kind of sandy blonde. Yeah,
super funny, very very dry. Yes, that was Adam's roommate.
Then I met so crazy. I didn't know okay, all right, Well,
thank you guys so much. Ruby, do you should any Instagram on
social media? Just all bad TV. There's nothing from me that is worth
anyone's time, but so much fun. Okay, bad TV. Go check
them out with your brother Dylan and with Patrick. Thank you guys so much.
We have a great time and yeah, always have a great time.
Thanks for love me guys too. Let Ingle