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Bottled Up Bitches is hosted by a
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Its season four. Welcome to Bottle
Death Bitches, your favorite sex podcast

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hosted by a horny married couple with
me Rihanna Campbell and me producer Man Adam.

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Sex shouldn't be taboo or embarrassing,
so let's talk about it. How

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do we? Doodley neighborna Hey,
Hi, Adam, Hey, Rihanna,

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Hi, everybody, Well, everybody, it's another episode of your favorite sex

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podcast, Bottle Deathitches. We're out
here just living. It's living. Its

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living. It's when you slay and
live at the same time. Hilton got

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it, Okay, I like to
keep you young. That is so they

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say hot. Yeah, oh that
was pretty good. Thanks really, thank

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you, thank you, thank you. How's your day going so far?

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Busy? Busy. We've had a
busy day today. We've had a busy

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uh, you know, twenty something
years for sure. But yeah, we've

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been going, going, going,
And I, as always I say I'm

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super excited, but I was thoroughly
excited to talk to our guest today,

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Jody from a provocative pro pro pro
just provocative, provocative, but it's spelled

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pro provocative. There's a hoe in
the middle, because there's all as she

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said, there's a little hoe in
all of us. Yeah, and I

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think that's just precious. Um.
No, I had so much fun getting

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to know Jody and how provocative started
and learning about her life. It was

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a good time. I had a
thoroughly festive time. Yeah, No,

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it was. It was fun and
listening to her like journey of her ho

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life, stay Helen, stay Howen, and you know, especially hearing like

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you know she started this kind of
whole lifestyle later in life. Yeah,

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I go. I talk a lot
about my howing years, and my howing

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years were earlier on because I found
you very early. Yeah, And so

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it's very fun when people find themselves
and they go through their sexuality. Yeah,

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they start going through all of their
journey in a later stage. And

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it's not even that late. She's
like, what thirty, I think she's

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not like sixty years old finding her
way. But the contrast is very fun.

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I love learning about people's journeys and
when they decided to explore their sexuality

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a little bit more and what that
entails so that conversation was just a good

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old time. I love I love
talking sex, and we got to do

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a lot of that that we did. That we did, we did.

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I think the episode speaks for itself. I think everyone's going to be impressed

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and having a good old time learning
about Jody and ten ten recommend going and

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checking out her podcast as well,
Provocative. We'll have all those links in

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the description which we were. She
was kind to have us on a few

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months ago. Yes, she had
us on and it was so much fun.

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We did her to meet over the
phone, so it was really fine

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fun getting to see her and over
a video and seeing all the facial expressions.

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I always enjoy that. Yeah,
without further ado, I hope you

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enjoy this episode with Jody of Provocative
A professional to what we have today,

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she's a pro professional. H e
h e y name of the episode,

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name of professional. Yeah, we'll
write down. Well, right, I

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love that. Well, I would
love to learn more about that, Jody,

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so Provocative. How did that get
started? What does that mean to

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you? Like, I want to
know the behind the scenes of starting the

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brand, because it's not just a
podcast. You have your book, you

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have a whole and going, I
want to learn more about what the provocative

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movement is. Yes, so I'll
go back to twenty twenty. Right,

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So COVID had just you know,
shooking up the world and everyone was kind

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of insight so inside the house,
so I had a lot of time with

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myself. Twenty twenty was the year
I turned thirty. I was just kind

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of going through this transition in my
life and I'm self reflecting, and before

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I knew it, the end of
twenty twenty, I turned thirty and I

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was like, oh my god,
I've never had a whole phase. Like

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it was really like I turned thirty
and I was like, oh my goodness.

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Like I was in two long term
relationships, one from when I was

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sixteen till about twenty two. The
next one I was about twenty three turning

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twenty four until thirty because we broke
up like around the time I turned thirty.

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So I'm like, all I know
is relationship. Like I've dated people

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here and there, but I know
relationships, and I've never really had an

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opportunity to just freely date or freely
you know, just figure out what it

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is that I truly want outside of
like, oh I really like this person.

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Now I'm committed to them Boom years
ago by so all of these thoughts

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are going through my mind and then
twenty twenty one that comes around, and

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then out of nowhere, I'm like, you know what. And then also

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I will say this, I've always
been pretty well spoken and I'm kind of

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funny on social media, so people
have asked me, like, over you

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should do a podcast. I'm like, I don't even know what the hell

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that is. Whatever, So twenty
twenty one rolls around, so now I'm

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actually thinking about it more seriously.
You know, it's still COVID. People

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still haven't transition back into the office
or anything like that, so i still

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have my regular nine of five,
and I'm like, you know what,

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I think I do want to podcast. I want to figure this album and

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see what I want to do.
And the topic that was right as talking

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about sex. I don't know why
it feels right, but that feels right.

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So it started out with me saying
like, you know what I think

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I want to do like sex toy
reviews or something like that, because at

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that point that was so that was
actually my first time of playing around and

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dabbling insects toys, so I never
owned a sex toy until after my thirtieth

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birthday, I literally bought myself a
sex toy and I was like, okay,

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this is fun. Um. So
by my first sex toy, I

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wasn't wowed, but I wasn't like, oh no, I'm never you know,

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doing this again. Then I bought
my second sex toy, which was

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the Rose. The Rose was my
second sex toy and that experience. When

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I told that story about how it
happened, my friends were just laughing because

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they're like, why is everything a
joke with you? So I kind of

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like told them I set the I
set like literally, I'm like, guys,

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I almost drowned using that rose And
I'm like, how did you almost

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drown? And I'm like because I
was in the tub and then like I

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put it, turned it on,
and then I went like thisn't then fell

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back in the tub. But it
was like the way I told the stories

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like super funny, right, So
then I was like, you know what

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this feels right, Like just me
being myself and telling my stories feels right.

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But at the time, I didn't
even have a name for the podcast.

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I just it was just an idea, right. I was like,

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you know, what I want to
talk about sex, So then I want

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to say it was like maybe around
March April of twenty twenty one, and

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I was high as shit. I
like just smoked some weed and I was

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doing the dishes, and I was
like provocative, like out of nowhere,

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like it just came to me it
was provocative, and I was like,

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but you know what, I'm gonna
spell it with a hole in the middle

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because now the word is even more
provocative. So I took it up it's

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not and from there, like I
was like, that's it, that's the

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name, Like that's me. I
feel like I've always seen myself as a

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provocative person, Like just the word
provocative has always been like like oh my

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god, I just of how it
rolls off the tongue. It just it

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was just one of those things where
it's like, provocative is my favorite word,

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and I never realized that it was
my favorite word until it just said,

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like duh, that's the name of
the show provocative. And then I

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just took it up the notch and
it's like, in you know, true

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Jodie fashion, I'm like, how
do you take something and then make it

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even more provocative? Okay, I'm
gonna stick a triggering hole in the middle

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of this episode too. Triggering yeah. Like yeah, so now everyone when

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they see they're like, pro ho
evocative, and I'm like, it's just

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provocative. Like phonetically you still say
provocative, you just kind of you know,

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like yeah, so um. But
then I was like, okay,

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cool, I have a name.
Then I started like, you know what

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is what is this gonna mean for
me? Because provocative literally started at the

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beginning of a journey for me.
So that's why it means so much to

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me as well, because it's like, Okay, now I'm going through you

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know what. You know started out
it's like the preliminary stage of my whole

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phase. This also started out with
me finding myself sexually. What is it

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that I'm into? How do I
want to express myself sexually? And then

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it eventually was like, okay,
you know what, I like playing games,

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So how do we incorporate like gaming
into things? So I created the

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Provocative Drinking Game. Then eventually,
just through the more I learned about sex

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and the more I educated myself on
sex, and I was like, you

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know what, I want to be
a sex coach now because now I have

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the credentials to be informed to speak
on these things. I'm still gonna be

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myself, right, still gonna be
an entertainer. I'm still gonna crack jokes,

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but I will also be able to
drop some facts and knowledge and gems

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into these episodes as well as a
way to yeah, we're joking, but

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we're also moving the conversations forward.
How are we having some of these controversial

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triggering table related conversations in a way
that people can say, you know what,

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I'm gonna think differently about this moving
forward, because I think that's still

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you know, we still have some
some ways to go when it comes to

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that. Oh so uh yeah,
that's uh, that's how provocative started.

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Uh provocative. Of course, I
also still have like T shirts and stuff

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like that, so it's like any
random thing that kind of comes to my

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mind, I kind of sticking on
a T shirt, Like for a while,

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I'll say like, oh, I'm
sad, I think I just need

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a little bit ahead. And then
I was like, you know, I'm

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gonna put that on a T shirt. And then I put it on a

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T shirt and it's been well received
because people are like, why the hell

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would you put that on a T
shirt and I'm like, I don't know,

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like this is how I feel.
I think everybody, you know,

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if you're sad, you deserve some
head so um that's yeah. It's just

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like you know, it's it's a
movement for me, right, It's about

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people, uh not being uncomfortable with
expressing themselves, and it's sexually explicit.

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Um as you want to be or
how you want to you know, just

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share yourself with the world. So
I had to of course overcome my own

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kind of you know, shame and
the barriers associated with my life, and

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people have seen me on that journey
as well, and I think it's super

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important to talk about those different things
so that everyone else is like, oh,

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you know what, I don't feel
uncomfortable living in my truth or you

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know, living in my skin because
there are so many other people that are

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dealing with it. Oh yeah,
there's so much to impact there. Like

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a bravo to you for one,
because I love that. For one,

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that we're provocative saying it feels naughty. I don't know if it's just because

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of what's behind it, but even
the way provocative is rolls off the tongue.

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It sounds very naughty. So the
fact that that's your the every day

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that's the brand, Like it makes
me so happy because sometimes I feel like

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people will insert the words sensual here
and there because they don't want to say

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sexual Nope, and so like,
let's go straightforward. There's different words.

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We're trying to use different words to
sweeten it up, and I'm like,

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let's be politically correct or softer with
it. No, I wanted something that

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was in your face because I think
that's the easiest or the best way for

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you to be comfortable with your sexuality
is to take a head one. We

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don't kind of oh, let me
ease and know what is it that you

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like? Figure it out? Like, you don't have to. It doesn't

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have to take years and years of
self discovery for you to figure out like,

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you know what, I'm a freaky
motherfucker. You don't have It doesn't

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have to be like that. And
I feel like oftentimes society makes us think

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that it has to be that way, but the honest reality is that a

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lot of people are engaging in sex
before they even do the exploration of their

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body part, right, So it's
like there's there's this kind of disconnect with

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that where it's like, Okay,
you just jumped straight into it because you

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didn't have the prior knowledge or you
didn't know you weren't like, you know,

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a strategic in your approach when it
came to say, spressing your sexuality.

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And now you kind of have to
go backwards and dissect that and figure

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out like, oh wait, what
is going on here? Why am I

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into this or why do I have
a dis thing for this or whatever the

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case is. So yeah, for
it to be in your face, it

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kind of forces you to And then
here's the thing. Like I talked a

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lot about triggering people, right,
I love triggering people. That is like,

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yeah, I want you to be
uncomfortable because now you have to take

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a look at yourself and then say, you know what, I'm uncomfortable because

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of this reason. Now we can
have a conversation. There's always a route.

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There's always a route. But I
love that you said that, because

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like, I've been having sex since
I was fifteen. I didn't have my

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first orgasm until I was twenty three, so like similar, yeah, similar,

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similar, I was having sex at
fourteen. I think the very first

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time I had an orgasm was when
I was nineteen so that's five years of

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having sex. And then orgasms is
one of those things where you know when

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you experience it. Once you experienced
it, then it's like, whoa wait,

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that is so unlike anything I felt
before. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And it was funny because my first
orgasm I was actually using uh,

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I was using a cock ring o
word. Yeah. So like me and

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my boyfriend at the time, we
were like, you know, trying something

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new. We went to the sex
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is my first time the sex store
and then I was like, oh,

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let's try this, and um,
that was the very first time I had

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an orgasm. But I had never
used sex toys before, you know,

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or even after that, so I
never used different masturbation purposes. But that

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was the first time I used a
sex toy and that was my first orgasm.

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And then I wasn't really having orgasms
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But I never you know, I'm
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sex. And this is why on
Provocative I have this episode where I was

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like, oh my god, like
the first six years is we having sex?

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I don't know what. There was
no benefit to it. There was

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literally no real true benefit to me
having sex back then, but it took

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that reflection right. But when I
look back on it and I reflect,

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I know that I was just doing
some shit. That's what it came down

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to. I'm like, oh,
this is my boyfriend. I'm having sex

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with him, because that is what
you do when you're in a relationship.

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You have sex with your your purse. That's how you show love, it's

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how you show affections. I'm showing
you that I care. But yet in

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the reality of it, you're having
sex for this other person exactly, You're

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not having sex for yourself. So
it's like now that I'm you know,

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you know, I've reflected on my
journey, I've started to show I you

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know, talk about it so much. I say, like, we really

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have to constantly ask ourselves that question, are you having sex for yourself?

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Because a lot of people don't and
they don't realize that they're not having sex

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for themselves. So it's like the
difference between owning your own pleasure and your

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own sexual expression versus doing it in
a transactional sense where it's like we are

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in a relationship, so this is
what I'm supposed to do, and that's

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not the thing. You don't get
as much a enjoyment out of it as

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opposed to I'm like, no,
you know what, we have two people

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coming together and we're just we're experiencing
each other. Right, It's a different

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way of looking at it. Yeah, No, absolutely, And I my

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journey with having orgasms was very similar. I had to have a sex toy,

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and I think I don't think you
were there. I think it was

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masturbation, right for what I first
time orgasming, Maybe I don't. I

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don't think you were there. I
think I figured that one out on my

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own. But sometimes you have to. Yeah, I didn't have like a

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mom or a parent or someone or
in my life that says like at some

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point you just need to touch yourself
and figure out what you like. But

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sometimes you just have to go you
know, manual. We can't. Sometimes

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not everything is automatic. Sometimes you
have to go manual and you have just

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go down there and touch yourself and
figure out, like what do I like?

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What does this do? And I
kind of did that with a toy

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because I've never been much of a
hands on person. I don't know why

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I still am not. I don't
know what it is. I've tried itself

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for me, but I always like
using exploring with a toy. I figured

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this out have my first orgasm.
It was like great, and then yag,

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that's what it was. Because then
I introduced it in the bedroom with

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him, and at first he was
very put off by it. He was

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disappointed by it, like if it's
different, But also I think you can

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come off as like a shot to
the ego if you're not yeah, really

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understanding what's happening, you know,
And oh gosh. We got a big

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fight about it, and I kind
of had to break it down for him,

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and I'm like, how long have
you how long have you been orgasmy

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how like since what you were like
fifteen sixteen in a sock? Like how

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long have you had this? Because
I just got this, and you're trying

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to take it away from me.
And when I put it in that perspective

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of like I've never had that feeling
of finishing you have and this and I

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just figured out that this is the
way I get there. Do not take

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that away from me, and do
not shame me because I just got it.

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Don't make me insecure about it.
And putting it in those terms I

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think was the most like at that
point it clicked for him that this is

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what I need. It's it is
what it is. And then there's all,

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of course I've explained to him all
of the facts around. I think

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it's only like thirty percent of women
have orgasms. It's like it's less than

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half. It's super super love,
it's like and even thirty. Yeah,

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like it's a it's a terrible it's
very much a terrible percentage. And I

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think part of what is associated with
that as well is um and you alluded

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to it. You alluded to it
a little bit. But this idea of

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shaming, right, So think about
when you're growing up, was sex talked

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about in your household or not?
For a lot of people, it's an

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we don't talk about, right,
Like babies just they you know, we

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have all these euphemisms. Babies are
delivered by storks and they just come out

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of nowhere. Right, we are
not confidable. So our parents were not

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comfortable talking about sex. Our parents
parents were not talking comfortable talking about sex.

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Right, So we have generations and
generations of shaming being passed down to

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people. Right, So of course
your parents are gonna say, like,

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oh, you know what, touch
yourself and figure it out. A lot

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of people think about like, oh, the first time you got caught,

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Like, you know, I've never
been caught masturbating because I didn't start masturbating

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so much later in life. But
I could imagine being a teenager getting caught

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masturbating in the stilling a shame because
now your parents like, what are you

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doing? I can't believe you're in
here, you know. So it's like

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those ideas of shaming people for trying
to explore their bodies, and we even

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see it now in adulthood. Like
you you try to say, like you

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know what, oh, masturbate more, and people are like, why do

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you have to masturbate? That's what
your partner is there for. It's not

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a competition. Yeah, Like I
shouldn't have to depend on someone for my

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own self pleasure. And it's more
so frowned to find when it comes to

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women, more so than men,
because men, you we you know,

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men kind of get to pass right, they're like, okay, you know,

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it's like, oh, you're just
money man, this is what we

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do. But it's still around this
idea of shaming. So the more that

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we have these actual conversations, the
more people feel more comfortable with exploring their

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bodies, and it starts before we
get to our damn thirties. It's no

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way in hell that people have to
you know, wait so long in life

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and being figure this shit out when
we should be doing this, you know,

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at a younger age. So but
we also it's like, you know,

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it's not really an age, and
it's like what what is appropriate and

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what feels right? It has to
be natural. It has to be a

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natural transition for sure. Well,
and I think like, and something I

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love about your show and our showing
kind of the other shows in this category

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is I still think there's this mentality
with culture of like, well, women

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don't get horny. Women, women
don't get horny. They're not like,

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yes, sexual beings, um right. And I think that like almost the

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way I get horny in a grocery
store in publican I'm like I need to

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get I need to go. But
I feel like that that's like because it's

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kind of still like a societal norm
idea. I do think that affects women's

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mentality in exploring that. So I
think like there's a lot of women that

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you know, like you, like
Rihanna, who kind of it's not up

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until you know, they're late twenties
or thirties before they start exploring their own

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self and start masturbating. And then
you do have that like, oh,

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I've spent fifteen or so years not
even really understanding how to have sex because

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for myself because like I'm not supposed
to be enjoying it or or you know,

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I'm a woman, so society tells
me that I don't quote enjoy sex

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or whatever the like mentality is.
I just think it's a very common thing

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of women not really understanding how to
enjoy sex for themselves and tell they're later

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in life. And I also love
or that when a man is finished,

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I'm yeah, yeah, oh that's
a good one. Yeah. And I

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think that's where, you know,
those are barriers that you know, all

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women kind of have to break away
from, and that's where that liberation comes

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from as well, because once you
realize what it is that you like,

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and it's like, no, if
he's finished and I'm not finished, we

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have to figure something out because you
you know, like, how do we

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have that conversation as mature adults who
are sexually involved with each other? Like

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Okay, maybe it means that you
know, we bring in toys so that

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I can feel, you know,
the same way you're you walk away feeling

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you know, complete, and you
know, like fool and you know whatever

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kind of you know adjective you want
to enter it here to, you know,

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describe your fulfillment. I want to
be fulfilled walking away from this sexual

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experience. I don't want to be
left hanging, because oftentimes that's what happens,

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the woman is left hanging. And
I think that comes down to the

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fact that four play is not incorporated
to sex enough. If four play was

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incorporated correctly, a four play should
really last. And it's gonna vary from

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woman a woman because you know,
vagina's volbas are not created equally. But

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it takes a woman anywhere between eighteen
to forty minutes to be fully aroused.

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And when she's fully aroused, the
vagina, the vaginal has depthened. So

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now you you know, like it's
it's it's ready, it's ready. It's

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like, okay, do you want
to pre cook something or do you want

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to throw it in the microwave.
So when a woman is fully aroused,

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that is when you penetrate her.
And if you penetrate her at that moment,

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it won't take as long for her
to get where she needs to go.

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And I think that's the problem too, because everybody want to spit start,

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No, take your time, take
your tide. It doesn't have to

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be rushed. And if four play
is again, if four play is done

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right, then it won't take a
woman as long to you know, have

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an orgasm or you know, even
just be you know, because orgasm doesn't

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necessarily mean that you're finished, right
because unlike you know, like typically the

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it's about the return time, right, So it's like, oh, a

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woman can't experience back to back orgasm
and be like no, I'm still let's

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go. Let's go like we keep
going. Uh not is easy for a

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man and he's like, all right, look, give me a minute or

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two, let me, you know, get myself situated and then we can

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get back into it. But you
know, that's you know, just a

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difference than like our sexual cycles.
But again, what it comes down to

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is you know, having a conversation
with your partner, making sure that you

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guys are doing for play in a
way that works for both of you.

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So does that mean like, okay, we're doing oral for this amount of

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time, or we're gonna do sensual
massages, We're going to you know,

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incorporate toys. Are what are you
gonna do that works for you, guys,

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Because that's what it is. It's
a conversation that needs to be had.

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But oftentimes the conversation is overlooked because
it's like will I finished, I

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don't know what you're gonna do about
it, And that's like that's a very

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selfish you know, it's a very
selfish approach. Like well, and men

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need to like get their egos aside. We've talked about this on the show.

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How you know, some women are
struggled more or even aren't able to

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achieve orgasm through penetration. They need
more like a culatural stimulation. So men

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need to like kind of get their
ego aside and understand like I may need

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to bring in a toy, I
may need a tool to help me get

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get this done. You need to
do research or do research or figure that

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out. I mean, at the
end of the day, like a penis

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cannot vibrate the way a toy does. Like yeah, you know, and

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here's the thing too, um,
just in terms of vibration, men can

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benefit sexually from vibration as well,
Like they don't experience those different sense sensations,

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right, So, um, I
know I piece this in my fallacial

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class and I say, like,
guys, grab you a vibrator and like

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put them in his ball and see
how you react to that while you're like

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giving them head. And then it's
like if yeah, so you know,

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try different things because that's the thing
like men don't oftentimes you know, uh

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get those kind of like oh you
know what, I'm gonna like massage your

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penis in a way that it's like
it's it's kind of like a hand job,

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but it's like a little bit more
essential, right, like let me

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let me take care of you in
this instance, because I think it's a

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cycle. The type of sensuality and
sexuality you bring to the bear room as

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a woman or as a man will
be reciprocated, hopefully should be reciprocated.

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Otherwise you're not you know, having
sex with somebody gets it truly sexually compatible

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with But when it's when you bring
that energy into the bedroom, they're gonna

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be like, you know what,
Oh they did this, let me do

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this for them, right, That's
how it should go, right, but

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yeah, vibration is not just for
women. It's for men too. Like

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clicks are like little tiny dicks.
That's like they have some of the same

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you know, parts and organs and
you know, feelings and sensations, and

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we have to treat them as such. Yeah, no, I agree.

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That's here. We got some toy. We got a toy recently from fun

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Factory and it was we didn't know
it was for how many male toys there

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were outside of flush lights, because
like, I feel like it's all I

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see something to put your penis in, or it's like a doll or something.

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But this was like a little rubber
handle and you put your pep in

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there and it like holes around and
it was such a vibe. I was

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like, wow, this is so
fun. Look at that. A whole

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toy toy for a man. Look
at that. Yeah. Yeah, and

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yeah, there are some toys where
it's like, you know, you could

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just get a little creative with it, where it's like, oh, you

406
00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:40.000
know what, instead of using the
cock ring the way it's typically used,

407
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:41.440
maybe I put it around my fingers
and then I'm like, you know,

408
00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:45.519
put it undeath your balls and give
you a blow job while while we do

409
00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:48.079
it and like, oh, how
does this feel? You have to figure

410
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:51.839
it out the same way. I'd
tell people that it's important to pay close

411
00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:57.000
attention to your female partners in terms
of like what they like and what turns

412
00:27:57.079 --> 00:28:02.200
them on. It's the same guy, it's the same guide when it comes

413
00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:06.400
to penis owners, Like what is
it that they you know? And sometimes

414
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:08.759
they wouldn't won't know that they like
it until it's done. So that's the

415
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:12.519
beauty of playing with toys. You're
kind of you experience each other in a

416
00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:15.440
way that it's like, you know, it's shame free. We're trying to

417
00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:18.759
just figure it out together. And
I think that works. Yeah, I

418
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:22.319
think there's a comfortability level that people
have to be on with their partner to

419
00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:29.119
know we are just going to play
and figure this out. You may you

420
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:30.880
may finish, I may finish,
we may both finish. None of us

421
00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:33.480
might finish because we might just be
laughing so hard in my blood. Let's

422
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:38.640
just go get some lunch. Like
there's like a like a practice round,

423
00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:41.319
Like even if you've been together for
a long time, like we need to

424
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:44.920
just sit down and try these things
out. And I feel like that's how

425
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:48.160
it was when we got all those
toys because some factory sent us a like

426
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:51.599
three or four different toys to try
out, and yeah, it was like

427
00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:55.400
salt lamp was on, but the
science goggles were on. We were like

428
00:28:55.599 --> 00:29:00.720
what is this? Are just sitting
here like and that's fun. That's fun,

429
00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:03.279
and it's like it's almost like its
own kind of you know. That

430
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:07.480
is like the best form of intimacy
right where it's like there's no shame here,

431
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:11.319
we're figuring out together. This is
a new experience, like you're literally

432
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:15.720
that's how you know your relationships last
longer. That's how you grow your bonds

433
00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:21.599
by experiencing new things together. Like
now you have that as like you know,

434
00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:26.680
these kind of you know, these
memories these stepping stones for a stronger

435
00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:30.000
bond because it's like, look,
you're really my person, like I this

436
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:33.759
is when it comes to sex and
being vulnerable to it infect like that's almost

437
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.599
like the ultimate form of vulnerability,
right, But a lot of people want

438
00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:42.240
to they only they want to kind
of control that vulnerability, like I'm only

439
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:47.759
vulnerable to this extent, right,
but being completely vulnerable but with someone to

440
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:52.160
the point where you are using toys
and you're laughing and you're like, oh,

441
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:56.279
this is not work. You must
strike something else and it's no pressure.

442
00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:00.960
It's like that is how you can
truly figure out out what your partner

443
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:14.640
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451
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:55.839
And there's like it's like it's weirdly, I don't want to say more,

452
00:30:55.880 --> 00:31:00.000
but it's a very intense intimacy for
me. Like the idea and doing that

453
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.680
of where you are just kind of
like because it is just a pure enjoyment,

454
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:07.720
like an all around enjoyment, not
just a sexual enjoyment. But when

455
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:14.400
you're like you're making at the play
mound with all these toys, Yeah,

456
00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:19.079
they're you know, story laughing and
like just just having a good time even

457
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:25.839
if it's not working sexually, Like
you're just enjoying the experience, which is

458
00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:29.319
it's it's a really nice it's funny
and see where there are. We've had

459
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:32.039
moments where we've done this and then
we end up not having sex. We're

460
00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:34.240
just like all right, like we
had a good time, Like let's you

461
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:37.799
are you hungry? Like we just
get distracted that there is but it's very

462
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:41.440
intimate and a very nice moment.
Yeah, and when you're in a committed

463
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:45.440
relationship, you have to be willing
because even though now I'll get back to

464
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:48.880
this because you talk about your whole
years, and it makes me really happy

465
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:51.400
that you refer to it as your
whole years, because I call my my

466
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:55.160
hoeing years, and I feel like
that puts people off sometimes I'm like,

467
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:57.000
well, I don't mean that in
a judgmental way. I just think that's

468
00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:01.440
my Like those are my seat active
times. I refer to it as my

469
00:32:01.480 --> 00:32:07.400
hoeing years. But when you go
through those single active times, you're with

470
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:10.960
multiple partners. Oh I liked when
they did this. I liked when they

471
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:15.079
did this, you're kind of putting
together that exploration of what you like when

472
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:20.880
you're in a committed relationship, you
unless you're you know, you're open and

473
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:23.279
you're swinging, and that's incredible,
But you may not do that. You

474
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:30.160
kind of have to be that multiple
experience or that multiple partner with your one

475
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:34.079
solo person. Like if I have
sex like this all the time, let

476
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:37.480
me mix it up, Let's try
something different, because how am I going

477
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:40.680
to grow? How is he going
to grow in our sexual journey figuring out

478
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:44.440
what we love, what we like. I don't have all the answers,

479
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:45.920
although I went through my hoeing years. Yeah, I don't have all the

480
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:51.519
answers in regards to what he could
potentially like that we have never tried.

481
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:55.880
So just staying open. Yeah,
agree. And sometimes what it comes down

482
00:32:55.880 --> 00:33:00.799
to is, again as I say
earlier, sometimes you don't know what you

483
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:06.359
like until you experience it and then
you know. That's that's where having multiple

484
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:10.039
partners in these different people from different
places and different backgrounds, they bring that

485
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:15.240
experience to the table in your life
way, What the hell like that was?

486
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:20.440
I'm okay? I like that Now. Now I can take that experience

487
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:22.920
and move forward, like I know
with me, I've seen like, you

488
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:27.279
know, social media means where they
talk about like body counts and they're shaming

489
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.000
people who are like, oh no, you shouldn't you know, have sex

490
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:31.680
assist, meeting people whatever, whatever, And I say, like, you

491
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:37.440
know what, I love when I
know that a man has had a way

492
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:44.599
significantly more sexual experiences than me.
And I want to make a distinction between

493
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:50.119
having a partner and then having experiences, because you could be well experienced and

494
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:54.519
have the body count doesn't mean anything
when it comes to your sexual experience because

495
00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:59.039
you're having quality sexual experiences versus someone
who's had a lot of partners and you

496
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:02.599
are still whack like the you you
haven't really learned anything. You're just like

497
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:06.880
you, you just sticking and going, sticking and going. Like that's not

498
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:09.000
the same. You have to actually
learn from those experiences, right, So

499
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:13.440
when I talk about experience, I'm
like, look, if you've had more

500
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:19.480
experience than me, and now you're
teaching me, we're in a teaching situation,

501
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:22.880
and now I'm like, oh my
god, that's new, that's refreshing.

502
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:27.719
I've never done this before or I've
never felt this way before. And

503
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:31.239
that's where the benefit of having you
know, different partners with different experience than

504
00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:35.440
you comes into play because now it's
like, oh, you know what,

505
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:39.599
I could take this to my next
situation and we could have I got now

506
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:44.480
I know how to apply the experience
that we've had together to other situations so

507
00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:46.840
that I can still continue to have
sexual fun. Yeah. Is that how

508
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:52.199
you feel about it? With me
having more experience than you? Uh?

509
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:57.639
Yeah, to a certain extent.
But I would say like yours was more

510
00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:01.320
of a wantity versus quality thing.
I think that's the big difference. Kind

511
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:04.559
of like you were saying that,
what did you say, stick it and

512
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:13.039
split it? Um? I don't
know. We'll split like split get out

513
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:20.440
of bickest plays. I like that. So, M I don't know a

514
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:23.360
hundred percent agree with that. No, No, because you know, interestingly,

515
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:25.960
going back to what we were talking
about four play, the best four

516
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:30.679
play I've ever had was in high
school. So my hoeing years were from

517
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:34.840
fifteen to nineteen, which is really
weird and very young and how good could

518
00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:39.239
it possibly be when you're in high
school with inexperienced boys like fair but two

519
00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:45.360
man and I think that's why we
put off a little bit with our sexual

520
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:49.840
journeys as women. I think that
because if you have some experience when you're

521
00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:55.519
younger, those the adrenaline and the
hormones of doing something sneaky, sneaking into

522
00:35:55.559 --> 00:36:00.400
a window, making out in a
hallway when no one's there, are like

523
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:06.719
you, you put off so many
different things because man, kissing alone feels

524
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:12.079
like the hottest fucking thing you could
ever possibly do. Like I always had

525
00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:15.119
all those experiences in high school where
they're all afraid to touch me, and

526
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:20.800
so it's like forty five minutes and
making out and they're slowly putting their hand

527
00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:24.519
under my shirt like every five or
ten minutes because they're so nervous. Like

528
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:28.480
that was the bomb, Sure,
that was the ship, and that that

529
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:34.519
kind of workplay was honestly the best
because they were and they were all afraid

530
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:37.440
of having sex. So all we
did was for play. We did,

531
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:42.519
you know, making out during a
movie and just like underneath the clothes touching

532
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:45.519
or when you do get to finally
have a handy in a movie theater,

533
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:52.599
like those experiences felt orgasmic, Like
there there's another level to having that type

534
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:55.199
of adrenaline and hormones when you're figuring
all of that out when you're younger,

535
00:36:55.400 --> 00:37:00.559
sure, Yeah, I do want
to say that I don't know like um,

536
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:05.280
when I refer to you know,
like my whole years, my whole

537
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:10.440
experience, my whole journey, I's
a it's about intention. For me,

538
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:15.239
it's very much about intention. We
talked about how you have sex for other

539
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:19.079
people or are you having sex for
yourself? And that was the shift.

540
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:22.760
That was the change. It went
from me having sex for other people to

541
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:28.280
me only having sex for myself and
me prioritizing my own pleasure. So for

542
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:30.920
me, it was like, no, I'm gonna get mad, like the

543
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:35.599
same way a guy's like, well, I came, what you gonna do?

544
00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:37.719
It was like, no, I'm
gonna get mad. So now it's

545
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:40.760
like, Okay, if I have
to bring a sex tooyd here, you

546
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:45.039
know, into the bedroom and you
feel some type of way, then I

547
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:46.840
know that I shouldn't be having sex
with you because this is how I like

548
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:52.320
it. So now it's like,
okay, what are we doing because I

549
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:55.840
need to put the same the same
way that I pleasure you. Because here's

550
00:37:55.840 --> 00:38:01.360
the thing. Me putting a higher
emphasis on making sure that I get I'm

551
00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:06.960
satisfied and I'm fulfilled as will does
not take away from me wanting to satisfy

552
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:09.159
you on the process. Because here's
the thing men are, you know,

553
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:13.920
it's I hate to do the men
versus woman things, but men are kind

554
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:17.519
of easily satisfied. It are like, it's easier for you guys to be

555
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:22.440
satisfied versus a woman who is like, it takes a little longer, but

556
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:25.079
it's worth it. It's worth it's
taking a little longer, right. So

557
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:28.840
it's like I look at you know, situations, and I'm like, okay,

558
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:30.639
I remember it was this one guy. I told him, like you

559
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:36.039
know, he was like, oh, will you could bring a woman into

560
00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:37.960
the bed room? But I don't
like sex toys. And I'm like,

561
00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:43.159
see, just for you to say
that, I know your mindset. So

562
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:45.880
now I don't want to have sex
with you because it's you're making it about

563
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:50.159
you. You're making my pleasure about
you instead of my pleasure about me.

564
00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:53.519
Yeah. Yeah, and that's a
different Yeah, that's like a different conversation.

565
00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:57.199
So it's very awfulitty, but those
are you know again, you have

566
00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:59.880
to have those conversations because now you
know, like you know what this is

567
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:01.400
even work for my time. I'm
not gonna just have sex with you just

568
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:05.480
because you want to have sex with
me, What am I gonna get out

569
00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:08.039
of it? So that's why even
with me, like throughout my whole phase,

570
00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:13.039
I would have sex with the same
people over and over again because I'm

571
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:16.039
like, I know their mindset,
we have a similar sexual mindset, and

572
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:21.840
I know that I'm going to be
fulfilled coming out of this. But you

573
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:22.960
know the ones where it was like, oh, we had sex and then

574
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:27.960
I didn't have sex again with you, it's because I'm like, no,

575
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:31.000
we either weren't sexually compatible, we
didn't have the same mindset. No,

576
00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:36.079
I tried, it didn't work.
I'm not even gonna give it another chance

577
00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:37.519
because I know it's not worth it. Versus someone where I was like,

578
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:43.559
no, I like love the way
they approach sex. Yeah, so here

579
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:45.440
we can we can we can have
fun. We can have fun here.

580
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:49.000
Oh there, it's like, no, we can't have fun over there.

581
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:55.679
I love that with intention? Yes, yes, you know, yes,

582
00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:01.079
you have to look we we we
you do all these other things with intention.

583
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:06.320
Why not be intentional with your couchee, Like, let's let's let's put

584
00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:10.000
that out there, like, let's
be intentional with our sexual choices and our

585
00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:15.719
sexual intention, because I think that's
what it comes down to, Like when

586
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:19.000
you say, like, you know
what, I'm going to have a good

587
00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:22.840
experience because I'm gonna do my part
to make sure and ensure that I'm gonna

588
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:25.280
have a good experience. So what
does that mean? Does it mean I

589
00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:30.320
have certain types of conversations with this
particular partner. Doesn't mean that I bring

590
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:34.719
toys and I communicate that up front, and I'm honest and I'm transparent.

591
00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:37.119
As long as you do your part, you can't be blamed if the sex

592
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:40.880
is not good because you did your
part. You didn't just lay there and

593
00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:44.679
take it. Because I tell people
too, it's like, okay if you

594
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:46.400
don't, if you just lay there
and take it, you can't just say

595
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:51.320
it was all on them because you
have a mouth. You can't communicate like

596
00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:54.519
you don't have to have sexlessness person, that's part. It's not pleasuring you,

597
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:58.920
or it's not pleasing you have a
conversation, figure that out. So

598
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:05.599
fact, we just to bring our
convo to a little clothes. We have

599
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:12.639
a an anonymous sex hotline, and
okay, I would love the opportunity to

600
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:15.039
play one of these for you,
and then we'll talk a little bit about

601
00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:20.840
it. We've not heard these ahead
of time, so there's a chance there's

602
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:23.239
a chance whom I listen to one
and listen to a different one. We've

603
00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:27.119
had a few leave them and they're
like not serious, and I'm like,

604
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:30.840
okay, well on to the nice, nice, nice, Yeah, let's

605
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:32.840
let's give it a listen. I
kind of want to do that. We're

606
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:37.119
provocative at some point, but nobody
has been leaving me voicemail, so I

607
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:40.639
don't know eventually, and we had
not listened to these ahead of time,

608
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:44.639
so it'll be fresh for both of
us. And doing this with the guests

609
00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:46.320
is our first time, so you're
gonna be a bit of a guinea pig

610
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:52.880
here. Yeay, yay, Okay. So I hooked up with this guy

611
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:59.079
from Kinder, my first ever Kinder
hook up. It has only as of

612
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:06.400
the farm, and he was pretty
into some things I had never done before,

613
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:14.920
including he like taking my stocks off
and licking my feet and then wanted

614
00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:19.000
me to like his feet put his
toes in my mouth, which I had

615
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:22.039
never done before, nor was I
really interested in doing. But there's just

616
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:25.840
some giggles. I did it anyways, and I wasn't really into it.

617
00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:30.440
But I think he was. And
then turns out the next time we hung

618
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:35.480
out, I talked to him about
it and I said, so, you're

619
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:38.199
really into feet. He's like,
no, not really, you know.

620
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:42.800
I was like, but you licked
my feet and you wanted me to lick

621
00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:45.599
yours. He's like, yeah,
I just wanted to try it, and

622
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:51.400
that was my first time ever doing
that, and I felt a little bit

623
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:55.360
like we could have communicated that,
but also what better time to do it

624
00:42:55.400 --> 00:43:00.519
than with a total stranger and just
try anything. You can always say no,

625
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:07.719
and I appreciated that he was willing
to be adventurous and exploratory like that,

626
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:10.400
even though I didn't like it,
and I told him that next time.

627
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:14.440
I was like, yeah, I
wasn't really into that, and I

628
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:17.880
don't think he was either. But
she liked it enough to want to try

629
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:22.400
it, I guess. And it
was kind of funny. It was weird,

630
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:28.320
it was funny, and I learned
from her. So that's my confession

631
00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:38.320
for now. I had to hold
my laugh in. Um, I think

632
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:45.559
that was okay. So these are
kind of my immediate thoughts on that she

633
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:54.599
went into someone who was exploring a
kink, and I think all of there

634
00:43:54.599 --> 00:44:00.920
are a lot of people that have
kink um explored or unexplored either, but

635
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:06.639
being adventurous and being open to explore
that like she could have easily said like

636
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:09.960
no, I'm not I'm not doing
it, like she could she could have

637
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:15.480
said no, but she kind of
went with it and was open to the

638
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:20.440
experience. So I love when people
are sexually open and sexually curious and you

639
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:24.679
know, not shaming someone for wanting
to explore something because on I mean,

640
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:28.760
even though she wasn't into it,
what if she was into it? What

641
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:31.199
if that was the situation that she
would have found out Like oh wait,

642
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:35.000
you know what. Wait I didn't
think I would like this, but I

643
00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:39.400
do now because I've had that situation
before where probably like I'm really big on

644
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:43.639
dental hygiene, Like I've never so
much as had a cavity, right,

645
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:46.159
So I've had braces, I've never
had a cavity. I go to the

646
00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:49.639
dentist, They're always saying, like, you know, you have great dental

647
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.960
hygiene whatever. Right, So when
it comes to spitting in mouth, for

648
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:55.239
a long time, I was like, oh my god, why would you

649
00:44:55.280 --> 00:45:02.880
want to spit in someone's mouth?
Fast forward, I could be doing a

650
00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:06.719
spinning. You could be doing a
spitting like you know, we like,

651
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:09.679
I'm cool with it, right,
But if there was a point in it

652
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:14.039
wasn't until I was doing it.
I was like, oh, you know

653
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:19.199
what, whatever fear or shame that
you know was in my head that prevented

654
00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:22.599
me from doing it in the past
is no longer there. So now I'm

655
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:25.679
a little bit more open, right. Um Me personally, I've never sucked

656
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:30.760
on anybody's toes. Um, I
don't know. It's one of those things

657
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:35.039
where it's like, once you're in
the situation, you'll know what you're what

658
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:37.960
you're willing to do right. It
has to feel right, like it can't

659
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:43.239
be forced at all. Um So
I and I will say this, I

660
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:47.119
am super grateful for at the end
her acknowledging that she kind of reflected on

661
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:50.880
the process, and I was like, oh, you know what, I

662
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:54.360
can appreciate this man for trying something
because a lot of men are reluctant to

663
00:45:54.440 --> 00:46:00.519
try new things in a nice way. When someone approaches me and it's like,

664
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:05.599
hey, I saw you from across
the room, I heard you speaking

665
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:08.159
like I really would love to get
to know you. Is it a possibility

666
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:12.360
that we can exchange information when people
come to you really respectfully. I'm like,

667
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:16.280
no, but I really appreciate for
putting yourself out there because approaching people

668
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:21.559
and new people is really hard.
So you keep doing it. Keep doing

669
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:24.000
that. I'm unavailable, but keep
doing that, Like, I get very

670
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:29.679
appreciate it. I was gonna say, the boldness of this guy to like,

671
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:34.119
and it's implied in here that it
was their first hook up together,

672
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:37.400
but the boldness firm to us,
like throw himself on the cliff out there

673
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:43.119
to see, like, hey,
you want to try this? Maybe it's

674
00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:45.320
like what she said, like what
a better time than with a stranger?

675
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:51.760
I guess what a stranger? I
guess. It's like when you know someone

676
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:55.079
you kind of you, you don't
want to disappoint them. You don't want

677
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:59.440
them to fill any type of way
about you. You don't you know.

678
00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:05.679
It's like all of these uh kind
of insecurity yeah right, um that come

679
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:08.840
into play when you know somebody versus
somebody you don't know. It's like,

680
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:13.639
I don't give a damn what you
think. I'm probably never gonna see you

681
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:20.159
again. Yeah. I also like, no, no, go ahead,

682
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:22.159
Like I definitely think that's what it
came down. Dude. I definitely think

683
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:27.519
it's easier for you to do something
when it comes to a stranger because then

684
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:30.760
there's no there's no real shame associated
with it, Like you don't have to

685
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:34.559
look at them the next day and
be like, oh my god, I

686
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:37.960
can't be like yeah, I'm not
talking about down and cover my face and

687
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:40.760
we don't have to talk about this
every It doesn't ruin the dating experience.

688
00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:45.159
Like I was dating this guy and
wanted to sue like, yeah, yeah,

689
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:49.119
I was gonna say. I also
like how it seems like this person

690
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:54.639
didn't necessarily have like you know,
you think of like a kinker or an

691
00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:58.719
interest of being like, boy,
boy, I really want to suck on

692
00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:00.440
feet, but it sounds like this
guy I kind of didn't have that and

693
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:02.719
was just like I've never tried it. Yeah, let's try it and see

694
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:07.480
maybe it'll open up something. I
think that's a really interesting and like another

695
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:12.320
very like good for you like to
just try ship even if it's not there's

696
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:14.760
not this thing in you that's like, hey, I really want to do

697
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:16.519
this, but like just giving it
a shot. Well, it could be

698
00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:21.639
a situation like um, like with
you you say you're not into feet,

699
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:23.920
you're into my feet. Yeah,
maybe she had beautiful feet. Maybe he

700
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:29.119
saw his feet he was like,
yeah, I'll try that last Travis.

701
00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:31.440
But I on the flip side,
he didn't want her to suck his feet

702
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:37.679
too, So I don't there's a
whole thing going on. Yeah, Like

703
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:42.039
I think he was just exploring different
kinks. I think he's just trying to

704
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:45.360
figure out what his kink is.
Yea, and it maybe feet, it

705
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:50.519
maybe I don't know, elbows like
people, it could be anything like what

706
00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:52.599
are you like, Oh my god, I just really want to all up

707
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:59.400
your elbows or something like. It's
this big spectrum of where you can fall

708
00:48:59.480 --> 00:49:04.599
when it comes so like your personal
kinks or your fetishes. And I think

709
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:07.679
he's probably just exploring that. So
he is. Probably he has a list

710
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:10.920
of things and he's like, I'm
gonna try these and figure it out feet

711
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:15.920
and wasn't impressed onto the next or
he may try it again and be like,

712
00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:20.000
oh, Okay, this is a
better experience. I mean that's how

713
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:22.880
I felt the first time I tried
anal, Like I tried antal for the

714
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:25.119
first time, I was like no, And then the second time I was

715
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:32.159
like Okay, we're getting somewhere,
so it might be one of those things.

716
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:36.639
Well, my rule is I'll try
anything three times. The first time

717
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:40.000
for the initial shock and I don't
know what's happening. The second time for

718
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:45.320
I'm not shocked at what's going to
happen. I can prepare myself and figure

719
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:47.199
out how to enjoy it or how
to do it. And then a third

720
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:51.360
time like, okay, I know
what to do. I need to figure

721
00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:54.480
out if with me having knowledge and
practicing, if this is for me,

722
00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:59.159
so that ye usually my role.
I agree. I definitely think if you

723
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:05.639
try something three times under different circumstances, it'll provide different you know, you'll

724
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:09.559
get different feedback, you'll basically acquire
different knowledge from those three times trying.

725
00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:14.800
You don't try something once. I'm
like, nope, yum. If it

726
00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:16.599
got you interesting enough to try it
that first time, I think it's worth

727
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:21.800
trying a second and third time for
sure. Well, Jody, it's been

728
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:24.800
so much fun talking with you.
Where would you like people to find you

729
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:34.519
and provocative? Yes? So you
can find me on Instagram. That's probably

730
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:37.400
my go to app. I'm on
Instagram the most, Jody. The free

731
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:45.239
costs my handle is at Jody Provocative. That's j O d Y p R

732
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:49.920
h O E d O c A
c A v E. That was the

733
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:54.639
word hope because we all got some
home on us. Perfect. But yeah,

734
00:50:54.679 --> 00:50:59.440
so I'm on Facebook, but Facebook
is kind of you know, it's

735
00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:02.639
like, y'all don't really got to
follow me. There is at Provocative.

736
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:09.000
You could definitely find me there,
But I post the most content on Instagram

737
00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:16.280
for sure. Provocative is on all
streaming platforms, so you can find Provocative

738
00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:22.039
on Apple, Podcasts, Spotify,
Google, Amazon, wherever you listen to

739
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:25.679
podcasts, iHeartRadio, all of that
good stuff. You can find me there.

740
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:31.880
And what else The Provocative website that's
where you can get merch from.

741
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:38.159
So that's provocative dot com and the
Yeah, I'm yeah. I'm working on

742
00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:45.199
getting the visual parts of Provocative once
to YouTube by June, because the to

743
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:51.039
your anniversary of Provocative is on six
nine, the National Sex Day, So

744
00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:54.960
I want to drop like all of
the visual content on YouTube by then,

745
00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:59.159
so then people will be able to
see, like, you know, the

746
00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:04.760
crazy face expressions I make when I
tell these funny stories. So yeah,

747
00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:08.199
but Instagram, oh yeah, Like
Instagram is definitely the best place to find

748
00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:13.559
me. If not, on all
of the podcast streaming app you can listen

749
00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:16.800
to me and we'll provide all those
details in the episode description as well,

750
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:22.880
so it's easy for people to find
Joey's Instagram and website. I didn't.

751
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:27.679
Is there anything you'd like to add
before we No, just thanks, thanks

752
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:30.360
for coming by and talking to us. Yeah, you guys are great,

753
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:35.000
Like we have fun on my show
when you guys came and we talked about

754
00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:37.519
intimacy everything. When I talk to
you guys, it's a good time.

755
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:40.159
So great. Yes, all the
way around. You guys are amazing.

756
00:52:40.280 --> 00:52:45.159
Thank you so much for having me
on your show. Thank you again for

757
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:46.800
coming on at the provocative of a
couple of months ago. It's a really

758
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:51.679
great episode. But yeah, we're
gonna keep driving the converence, the sexual

759
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:57.280
conversation forward. I think though,
that's really what's needed in our industry for

760
00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:01.079
sure. Absolutely, well, Hill
next time. Thank you again for joining

761
00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:05.960
us on today's episode. I had
so much fun chatting with you, and

762
00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:09.960
for all of you incredible listeners out
there, you beautiful bitches, stay horny.

763
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:15.239
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764
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766
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769
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