WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.200 --> 00:00:08.880 Bill Cunningham to great Americans. Coming up later today will be the Reds and 2 00:00:08.960 --> 00:00:14.720 Astronomicals alive from Houston. And many had said Tony Fenders seven repeatedly, this 3 00:00:14.919 --> 00:00:20.320 is a preview of the World Series in October and maybe November between the Reds 4 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:22.879 and the Astros. That's a different story, John, and you and I 5 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:26.960 now is the representative State Rep. Cindey Abrams of the West side of Hambleton 6 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:31.280 County. She's chair of the Criminal Justice Committee. More and she had something 7 00:00:31.519 --> 00:00:34.920 press release issued a couple of days ago, and what she wants to declare 8 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:39.840 July first to be Taylor Swift Day and so much more. And Representative Cindey 9 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:43.520 Abrams, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show and Sydney, since this is 10 00:00:43.560 --> 00:00:46.920 more or less Father's Day week. And do you have some stories, some 11 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:50.880 vignette about your dad. Understand from from media types that he may have died 12 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:55.200 at a rather younger age, but nonetheless, what is stories that you recall 13 00:00:55.280 --> 00:00:59.479 about your own dad? Well, thank you for having me on the show 14 00:00:59.479 --> 00:01:03.200 today. Of course you know my dad he did die young. He died 15 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:07.799 when he was fifty two. But I'll tell you he taught me so much. 16 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:11.480 We had a lot of fun together. We shot handguns in competition all 17 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:15.079 around the tri State when I was starting at what seventeen years old, and 18 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:19.359 he was a proud Union pipe fitter, and again, you know, taught 19 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:23.359 me to save my money and don't spend more than your make and all that 20 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:27.239 good stuff that uh. You know, I am who I am today truly 21 00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:30.959 because of my father and mother. But Father's Day weekend, you know, 22 00:01:32.120 --> 00:01:36.480 definitely shout out to all of our dads who play such an important role in 23 00:01:36.599 --> 00:01:40.680 the kids' lives and Cindy Abrahams. It is not common, may I say, 24 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:44.280 for a father to take his teenage daughter to shoot guns. I think 25 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:49.680 that's wonderful because there's his seriousness to that activity that otherwise would not be present. 26 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:53.760 So when you relate a story about shooting guns with your father and the 27 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:59.640 strength that he give you, any political philosophies, liberal conservatism, about faith 28 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:02.680 and family, what else did he place inside you? Well, of course 29 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:06.480 all of that. I mean he you know, he was a devout Catholic, 30 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:08.599 very strict. I have a funny story. When I came home. 31 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:12.680 I was working as a police officer down here for the city of Cincinnati, 32 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:15.800 came home to visit one weekend and he literally said, hope you brought your 33 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:19.919 church clothes because we're going to nine o'clock Mass. Okay, Dad, Yes, 34 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:24.159 sure I did. And how old were you at that point? I 35 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:28.879 was twenty five twenty five? And he said, Sydney, hopefully you brought 36 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:31.879 your church clothes. We're going to Mass. And you said, and you 37 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:36.439 said, yes, daddy, that's what we'll do. Yes, there we 38 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:40.599 are nine o'clock, nine o'clock Mass. And now, after being a cop 39 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:45.560 and a state representative, you chair the Criminal Justice Committee. And we had 40 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:51.479 this terrible incident yesterday in Claremont County in which seemingly a father a news conference 41 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:53.080 has been held. It has to be a mental case of one type or 42 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:58.319 another literally kills in his freight yard at three to five and seven year old. 43 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:02.919 And you know, to me, this is a demonstration of monstrous evil. 44 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:06.879 It had to be a mental case of one type or another. No 45 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:10.319 one reasonably can do such things. And as chair of the Criminal Justice Committee, 46 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:15.080 there's a movement of foot which is ongoing to disregard the death penalty. 47 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:21.000 I think his bond is something like fifty million dollars cash only or sixty million 48 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:25.319 cash only. Unlike Hamilton County, He's not getting out anytime soon. Does 49 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:32.879 this provide justification for the death penalty or not? Well, you know, 50 00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:38.800 first of all, what a heartbreaking story, so devastated for the family. 51 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:43.400 And yes, I mean it does sound like something terrible happened, you know, 52 00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:46.599 in this country, I think we need to continue to focus on and 53 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:50.319 know the State of Ohio heavily focuses on and funds, you know, mental 54 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:53.479 health at all ages. Quite frankly, it's important to talk about it. 55 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:58.719 If you're struggling with something, if you're having, of course suicidal or homicidal 56 00:03:58.759 --> 00:04:00.719 thoughts, you need to talk about it and tell somebody and get the help 57 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:04.719 that you actually need. But going to this case, you know, look, 58 00:04:04.919 --> 00:04:10.759 I have UM as a Catholic myself. Of course I last General Assembly 59 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:14.400 there was a bill in the House to abolish the death penalty, and you 60 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:17.000 know I did a lot of UM, a lot of interested party meetings, 61 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:20.040 a lot of discussion. I mean I even talked to the you know, 62 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:27.040 some nuns here locally in Hamilton County. And I will say that everything I've 63 00:04:27.079 --> 00:04:30.120 experienced as a police officer, the things that I've seen, you know, 64 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:33.680 I truly believe the death penalty has a place in Ohio. Um as you 65 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:38.759 know, it is not used um Willie milly so to speak. It is 66 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:44.000 used for the most serious, um you know, hainous crimes. That again, 67 00:04:44.079 --> 00:04:48.759 this example of shooting your innocent children ridiculous. So again I believe there's 68 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:53.240 a place for it, you know, in Ohio. And as far as 69 00:04:53.360 --> 00:05:00.959 lowering the voting at age, one of the presidential candidates sh Mswami once the 70 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:05.480 increase the voting age to twenty five, that may be somewhat controversial. Boys 71 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:10.040 and men generally don't become adults, so the age of twenty five to thirty 72 00:05:10.600 --> 00:05:15.600 mentally, as far as your idea, many have had it to lower the 73 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:18.160 ability to become a police officer, and you were one for a long time 74 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:23.759 with Cincinnati from twenty one to eighteen years old. I think what's driving that 75 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:29.439 is the fact that recruit classes are way down. That I saw hit on 76 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:32.759 Sergeant Dan Hills about a week ago when they would announce there was a recruit 77 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:39.720 class for CPD. In one case there was six thousand possible recruits showed up. 78 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:43.639 Six thousand of the Duke Energy center to begin the process to take the 79 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:49.360 test for fifty positions. Six thousands show up. And now it's not that 80 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:55.600 they're advocating advertising. Now it's completely different. So some will intended persons say, 81 00:05:55.639 --> 00:05:59.279 well, let's lower the age from twenty one to eighteen. Where does 82 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:03.240 Cindy him stand on that? You know, Dan Hills is right. When 83 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:08.319 I took the test back in nineteen ninety six, I will say that there 84 00:06:08.360 --> 00:06:11.600 were, yes, he's right, six thousand people there, and you know 85 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:17.360 they hired anywhere from fifty to eighty and you know he's right. They're struggling. 86 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:23.160 This is not going to solve the problem of recruiting and retention of our 87 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:28.920 law enforcement. You know what will supporting them, supporting them funding things like 88 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:32.720 they're training, funding things like you know, equipment, different things like that. 89 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:36.519 Cadet programs. You want to get eighteen year old eighteen or twenty year 90 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:40.959 olds in the door and you know, really teach them how to be police 91 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:45.399 officers and keep them long term, have a cadet program. I'm all for 92 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:47.480 that, But let me tell you something. What I heard in committee is 93 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:51.399 this, Well, we let our eighteen year olds go into war and serve 94 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:55.560 in our military. Okay, you're right, we do. And my husband 95 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:58.759 served in the Army, the first Infantry, and a lot of his friends 96 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:01.000 also did. And I talked to a lot of our former and current military 97 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:05.800 members. It's that are currently police officers. Listen, it's not the same 98 00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:11.759 in the military. You're under constant supervision. Guess what. Once you go 99 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:15.319 through the police academy, and I'm speaking here in Cincinnati, of course, 100 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:19.759 are very lengthy thorough police academy, then you're out with your field training officer, 101 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:24.319 you're FTO, you know, on two different shifts, and then you're 102 00:07:24.360 --> 00:07:28.399 released on your own. Guess what. You're by yourself. There's no sergeant 103 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:32.000 showing up to every run, or lieutenant or captain or chief showing up and 104 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:34.759 saying, okay, this is what you need to do now. No, 105 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:39.720 you're making life or death decisions in the blink of an eye by yourself. 106 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:44.000 You're learning to de escalate and everything else by yourself. And you're right. 107 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:46.639 I mean, look, twenty one, I think is the proper age. 108 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:50.120 If you want to get police officers in the door and train them and keep 109 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:55.240 them in all of that long term, it's a cadet program. I'd be 110 00:07:55.279 --> 00:07:58.879 happy to help. You know, look at funding that. But I'm a 111 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:03.160 hard no, I'm lowering the age here in Ohio. And Representative Sydney Abrams 112 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:07.160 your chair of the Criminal Criminal Law Injustice Committee in the House of Representative. 113 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:11.439 So if you say no, it's not going to happen, well, it's 114 00:08:11.439 --> 00:08:15.639 not in my committee. It's a Homeland Security committee. I am just one 115 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:20.399 vote on that committee. So so at this point it may go through because 116 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:24.240 of the need to get more people. I can't imagine a nineteen year old 117 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:28.959 running on a dark alley at four o'clock in the morning, especially a mail 118 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:31.120 making a life and death decision. What happens all the time. If you 119 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:35.360 put me in charge, I make twenty one the magical age for everything. 120 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:37.480 You can't do a damn thing to your twenty or twenty one years old. 121 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:43.360 And then there's no confusion about carrying a military style rifle and some battlefield in 122 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:46.559 a rock when you're nineteen or twenty. I think that's different than being a 123 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:50.879 police officer. So we'll see what happens there. And lastly, let's talk 124 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:56.320 about the reason I brought you on. You want July first to be a 125 00:08:56.399 --> 00:09:00.360 special day for Taylor Swift, can you explain you're thinking in that guard? 126 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:05.639 Well, you know, I'll tell you some folks have said, you know, 127 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:09.120 don't they have anything better to do in Columbus than this? What a 128 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:11.960 bunch of nonsense. And what I have to say to that is this, 129 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:18.720 you know what, we discuss and deliberate and vote on various very serious things. 130 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:20.519 And you know what, our budget is an example of that. Um 131 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:24.960 it affects every Ohio and and you know what, every once in a while 132 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:28.039 allowed to have a little fun. So this Taylor Swift day. Of course, 133 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:33.120 she's coming to our great city here in Cincinnati. And let's face it, 134 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:37.000 this is going to be a tremendous impact on our city here and our 135 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:41.080 state. I mean, it's it's reported that she brings five billion dollars in 136 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:46.480 economic impact. A two day, two day concert and music unites people. 137 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:52.600 This is bipartisan, it's fun and so that's why we got Isaacson and myself 138 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:56.480 are doing this. Are you a swifty goes? I know Tony Benner. 139 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:01.200 Tony Benner's an older white male, he tells me he's a swifty There's all 140 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:05.480 kinds of swifties out there, I'm telling you, And yes, I mean 141 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:09.320 young old in between, and yes, I will say. The inquirer asked 142 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:13.320 me, okay, what's your favorite song, and I would say it's blank 143 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:16.159 space. So there you go. It's hard to narrow it down to just 144 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:18.919 one, but you know everyone's going to be talking about their favorite song and 145 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:24.759 whatnot, and so we shall see life first Taylor Swift day here in Ohio. 146 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:26.840 All right, Representative Sindy Abrons, thank you very much. And for 147 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:31.919 those of us that don't have fathers around, he'll be locked inside your heart 148 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:35.759 for eternity and the attributes and the skills and the qualities of life that he 149 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:39.039 gave you. Cindy Abrons, once again, thank you for coming on the 150 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:41.919 Bill Cunningham Show with your permission. Will do it again. Thank you, 151 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:45.399 Representative, thank you, thank you for having me. All right, let's 152 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:52.840 continue. Tony Fenders as swifty as you can now hear. It's going nuts 153 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:56.879 just thinking about her coming to town. He spent like ten thousand dollars for 154 00:10:56.960 --> 00:11:03.159 two front row seats or one of my old girlfriends, Taylor Swift at the 155 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:09.759 music, Tony, No, you can't make him stay, but this song 156 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:13.120 was about me. I understand. It's either me or John Mayer one of 157 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:28.600 the other hit it oo oo oo oo oo oo. I'm a player, 158 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:39.039 the haters and the players read Spaceball Tonight, Dwayne Allen Root coming up later 159 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:45.960 and more. That's Room of the Reds and Father's Day celebrations on news Radio 160 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:52.039 seven hundred. That will you other shake shake shake it man, shake it, 161 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:58.200 Hi, Hun Father's Day, And I'm a neglected holiday. 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