WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:08.640 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:29.480 day. Now, here's Nick Coffee. All right, let's do it, 3 00:00:29.559 --> 00:00:33.759 ladies and gentlemen, Hour number three Here on a Thursday afternoon Coffee and company 4 00:00:33.759 --> 00:00:37.560 fueled by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety Nick Coffee. That's me the 5 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:41.079 company man, mister John Alden alongside. Don't forget you could take us with 6 00:00:41.119 --> 00:00:45.119 you wherever you go. Listen live on the iHeartRadio web Listen live at seven 7 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:49.560 ninety Louisville dot Com. A lot of college hoops talk today, as we've 8 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:55.479 got a handful of the college basketball talking heads putting out their early top twenty 9 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:58.640 five. In fact, Rostein put out a top forty five, which is 10 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:03.920 a very random number to pick, but we now know what the rosters look 11 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:07.079 like for Louisville and Kentucky. Indiana's still with a scholarship, right, yes, 12 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:11.680 So are they involved with any of these guys, Not that I'm aware 13 00:01:11.680 --> 00:01:14.400 of. And I'm kind of getting to the point to where I think it's 14 00:01:14.439 --> 00:01:18.920 just going to stay open. Yeah, some schools, maybe out of money, 15 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:23.159 maybe some schools don't have a whole lot to sell as far as role, 16 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:29.079 because there's already some good players in place at said school. So look, 17 00:01:29.120 --> 00:01:32.680 there are still some guys out there that are available because they decided last 18 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:36.200 night to pull their name out of the NBA Draft. But for the most 19 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:38.400 part, I'd say we now know who's going to be playing for who and 20 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:42.120 what each roster looks like. And just to see Louisville coming off of two 21 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:49.159 years that I hope to one day have completely removed from my memory just disastrous. 22 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:52.480 But for that to happen and for them to be getting some buzz for 23 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:53.959 the top twenty five. In fact, Jeff Goodman has him at number twenty 24 00:01:53.959 --> 00:01:57.760 four. Disclaimer, I know Jeff Goodman is a big fan of Pat Kelsey, 25 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:01.719 and if it was not a guy named Pat Kelsey coaching Louisville, he 26 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:07.919 may not have them right there. But I think it's just exciting one to 27 00:02:07.960 --> 00:02:14.520 be excited about Louisville basketball again, genuinely, but also to know that your 28 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:19.240 coach in his first year is put together a roster that you can realistically and 29 00:02:19.280 --> 00:02:22.240 I mean, I'm kind of dancing around it because I don't want to sound 30 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:25.120 like that guy that's like ready to act as if Pat Kelsey's gonna be the 31 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:29.960 next John Wooden. But I think it's an obvious takeaway when looking at the 32 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:31.960 personnel that, yeah, like you should expect to be a tournament team. 33 00:02:32.159 --> 00:02:35.719 Everybody's afraid to say it. At least some people are. Heck, I 34 00:02:35.719 --> 00:02:38.120 guess maybe I was, but I'm not now like, this team from a 35 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:44.680 personnel standpoint, has enough to absolutely be a tournament team. Now will they 36 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:49.879 do it? Who knows? This season. I'm not gonna brand it this 37 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:54.360 way because that wouldn't that would I mean, it just sounds like it's dampening 38 00:02:54.479 --> 00:03:01.199 the excitement. But it's the ultimate unknown, brand new co coach, entirely 39 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:05.879 brand new team. The only guys that have ever played together. Well, 40 00:03:05.919 --> 00:03:09.759 I guess you got Khalifa and Waterman both from BYU, and then also Rain 41 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:14.840 Smith and James Scott from Charleston. So I'm not saying that to tell you, 42 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:16.919 hey, Pump the Brakes, don't be excited. It's all new pieces. 43 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:20.479 We'll have to wait and see. I mean, that is all true, 44 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:25.599 but the perfect storm here right the bars low for us to get excited 45 00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:29.960 about stuff because of how bad it's been lately, and now you have again 46 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:34.039 legitimate reason to be excited. It's not just Louisville fans realizing they're going to 47 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:38.159 be better than what Kenny Payne had Louisville at, but nationally again, you 48 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:43.280 can look around at those that cover the sport, I mean Pat Kelsey again, 49 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:46.919 nobody's acting as if they're about to go on some crazy run and you 50 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:51.599 know, win at all in year one. But it's gonna be fun unless, 51 00:03:51.639 --> 00:03:54.400 of course, you know, so something unexpected happens. But I'm not 52 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:59.280 even gonna go there. But for what it's worth, the rankings that we 53 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:01.719 were talking about earlier, for those that just missed us earlier in the show. 54 00:04:02.879 --> 00:04:05.639 Right now, far as far as local teams, Jeff Goodman has Indiana 55 00:04:05.680 --> 00:04:10.000 at number seventeen. He has Louisville at number twenty four, and he had 56 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:15.120 Kentucky at number twenty five, and Kentucky has is you know, I don't 57 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:18.800 know if he's going to update these because Jackson Robinson didn't tell anybody, did 58 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:24.319 make it public. I truly believe no one knew what was going on other 59 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:27.720 than I guess Mark Pope and you know his staff, But didn't seem like 60 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:30.319 anybody knew what was going on. With Jackson Robinson until Jeff Borzello of ESPN 61 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:33.399 broke the story earlier today, which I think was around like eleven o'clock, 62 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:38.279 maybe closer to noon, that Robinson did, in fact last night pull his 63 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:42.439 name out of the draft and will be back in college. But he's going 64 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:45.600 to go play with Kentucky. You're gonna go play for Mark Pope at Kentucky, 65 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:48.360 reuniting with his former head coach. That's a substantial edition for Kentucky, 66 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:51.439 and Goodman later said that, you know, he probably put Kentucky closer to 67 00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:56.319 a top fifteen team with that addition, which I you know, I get 68 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:59.199 it. I don't know if they're going to be that good. They're just 69 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:01.560 like Louisville, a break new team and whatnot. However, they've put together 70 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:06.439 a pretty good roster in the offseason. I think both teams have all right, 71 00:05:06.519 --> 00:05:13.879 so real quick. On the portal in the Division one and Division two 72 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:19.399 level here there are three thousand and fifty one players currently in the portal. 73 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:27.079 So three thousand and fifty one players currently in the portal, two thousand and 74 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:32.199 thirty three of those are from the Division one level, and one thy and 75 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:35.839 eighteen of them are from the Division two I'm sorry, two thousand and thirty 76 00:05:35.879 --> 00:05:39.519 three from the D one level, and one thy eighteen from the D two 77 00:05:39.639 --> 00:05:44.079 level. And by the way, that doesn't mean they're currently available. So 78 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:47.199 I guess technically, until you've enrolled in school, I guess technically you still 79 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:49.920 are somebody in the portal, right, because it's not official until you're in 80 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:56.959 school and you've signed like paperwork. So of those three thousand and fifty one 81 00:05:57.000 --> 00:06:02.480 players, forty seven point eight percent of them have not found a new school. 82 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:06.519 Only fifty two percent of those fifty two point two percent of those that 83 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:15.319 hit the portal have found the new home. That is a number that tells 84 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:21.680 me that there are a lot of guys leaving, and it's probably because they 85 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:26.879 want to go to a much lower level or they're leaving and that's probably like, 86 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:29.800 you know, they didn't get the phone calls they thought they were gonna 87 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:31.279 get, they didn't get the interest that they thought they were gonna get. 88 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:36.439 And it's true, like this is there are guys who have probably like probably 89 00:06:36.439 --> 00:06:39.879 if they couldn't leave and they had to stick around me because they didn't want 90 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:44.519 to sit out, they would be better off doing that. Maturing, growing, 91 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:47.360 maybe fighting through some adversity, earning more playing time because they realize I 92 00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:51.240 gotta work my ass off or I'm never gonna play well. Now they can 93 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:55.480 just decide to say, well, you know what, I'm not real happy 94 00:06:55.480 --> 00:06:58.240 here with my role. I'm gonna bail and go somewhere else and transfer. 95 00:06:59.079 --> 00:07:03.279 And it's probably a bad decision that they may even regret later in life, 96 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:11.680 and that's unfortunate, but it still doesn't mean that they should not have the 97 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:15.839 right as an adult who is not an employee, not under contract, like 98 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:19.279 they should be able to make that decision on their own. And yeah, 99 00:07:19.319 --> 00:07:24.879 some of them probably don't know what's best for themselves, but they'll learn. 100 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:30.480 And I'm sure there will be a case study down the line, maybe not 101 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:33.720 even that long from now, because this is still all relatively new, but 102 00:07:33.759 --> 00:07:36.519 there'll be a case study done as far as how many guys just left because 103 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:42.759 they could thinking that it was the school's fault, the coach's fault, the 104 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:46.040 style of play, or whatever it was, instead of just looking at the 105 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:47.199 mirror and realizing I need to get better, or just looking at the mirror 106 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:49.319 and realizing I'm not as good as I thought. I was, let me 107 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:53.439 get more comfortable here being a career backup and not a star like I was 108 00:07:53.480 --> 00:07:57.480 in high school or something like. They'll be guys that really altered their career 109 00:07:57.519 --> 00:08:01.319 in a negative way because they had this ability to to just up and leave, 110 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:03.839 and that's unfortunate. But to go back to what we talked about earlier, 111 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:11.000 those are really two different things, right it. What you should do 112 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:16.560 is different than like what someone like the NC DOUBLEA has the ability to tell 113 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:18.639 you what you can and can do. And that's another piece of news that 114 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:24.160 we talked about a little bit earlier, because it sounds like the one thing 115 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:26.240 that we now know is not going to change is that is that it's a 116 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:31.560 free for all. You will be able to transfer as many times as you 117 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:37.399 want, as long as you are academically eligible. And it sounds crazy because 118 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:39.720 it's gonna be hectic, it's going to be chaotic, it's going to be 119 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:43.200 you know, as they say, the wild wild West. It's going to 120 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:46.639 make more coaches probably reconsider what they're doing, like, dude, can I 121 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:50.120 should I? Is this still the right position for me? Can I? 122 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:52.919 Can I adjust and adapt to this new world? In fact, there were 123 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:58.279 three coaches, maybe even more than three. At one point it was three 124 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:01.480 that were head coaches at the mid major level or lower the low major, 125 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:07.240 and they left head coaching jobs to go be assistance at the high major because 126 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:11.360 they just realized, my best chance of winning is not going to be doing 127 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:13.559 it here, because if I am good and I have any good players, 128 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:16.519 they're going to leave. My best chance to climb the ladder in college basketball 129 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:20.279 is to go work under a head coach at a bigger school and wait for 130 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:28.919 a good job to open up. So there's no doubt this is a different 131 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:33.480 sport now that you can just up and leave. And that's unfortunate, especially 132 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:37.399 for fans who would love the idea of guys playing there for three maybe four 133 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:41.120 years. Like I understand all of that for those who are anti portal, 134 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:45.519 but you have to consider this. Why should the NCAA be able to tell 135 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:48.279 these kids they can't go play where they want to go play. The example 136 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:52.759 I used earlier was that if I was in the pet band at one school, 137 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:58.360 playing the saxophone or the trumpet, whatever it may be, and I 138 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:01.279 decided I'm going to leave this school and go be in the band elsewhere, 139 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:03.600 they'd never want me to sit out. They never think I mean, so 140 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:07.159 why would you tell an athlete who is a student just like the just like 141 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:13.200 me and the band. Again, it's not just black and white, right, 142 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:18.600 They're not just normal students because they get things that the normal student in 143 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:22.240 the band wouldn't get, right, like probably you know, privileges, and 144 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:24.279 heck I don't, I don't. I don't know if there are many or 145 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:28.799 any band members on scholarship. But they're not just like any other student. 146 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:33.759 But the NCAA has tried to make it like they are forever. So this 147 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:39.840 really got thrown in their face because they've always fought for amateurism and you know, 148 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:43.240 these are student athletes before they you know, and just trying to act 149 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:48.480 you act as if it's not what it is. So now with their own 150 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:54.120 logic, it's led to I think them being challenged in court and losing, 151 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:56.039 which is like, hey, you shouldn't be able to tell me that I 152 00:10:56.080 --> 00:11:00.639 can't make money. If somebody wanted to go play, you know, if 153 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:03.399 somebody wanted to pay me, you know, if you wanted to give a 154 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:09.639 band member at a school some impermissible benefits before nil existed, they wouldn't not 155 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:13.039 be allowed to play in the pep band, right, So why can't someone 156 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:18.840 who's playing soccer or football be able to get some kind of benefit and make 157 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:22.600 money because somebody wants to give it to them. So this is all the 158 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:28.159 NAA's fault for trying to force this archaic amateurism model for so many years, 159 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:37.000 and they're just getting buried every time someone challenges them in court. So that 160 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:39.840 number the reason I wanted to mention is because it is like there are probably 161 00:11:39.879 --> 00:11:45.679 guys that hit the portal and it actually ends their career because they learned the 162 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:48.039 hard way. Like, yeah, I guess my best option is to go 163 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:56.399 play at you know, Long poly Tech State and they only offer half the 164 00:11:56.399 --> 00:12:00.559 scholarship because it's nai. Yeah, I guess I'll just go back home and 165 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:03.720 you know, figure something out. Like I guarantee, there are many guys 166 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:07.559 who hit the portal and just never play again. And that's not good. 167 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:11.960 That's but they you know, they should have the right and freedom the ability 168 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:16.320 to make whatever to see, like nobody should able to restrict them from making 169 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:18.440 decisions about what they want to do with their life and their career and their 170 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:22.559 future. I just you know, I think again, it's I understand everybody 171 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:24.799 who's like, this is going to be too chaotic. We're never going to 172 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:28.480 see any roster continuity over the years, And you're probably right, But again 173 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:33.120 that's a different conversation than like, what what they should be allowed to do 174 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:37.720 now if they're employees. Technically I guess they could sign non competes, but 175 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:41.759 didn't we just learn about a month ago that's no longer going to exist in 176 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:48.120 this country. So as far as what the actual arrangement's going to be, 177 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:52.720 we with how they decide if these guys are employees, these guys and girls, 178 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:54.639 I should say, or employees or not, Like that's that's going to 179 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:58.639 be the real big kicker as far as the future of college athletics, because 180 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:03.480 I mean, it will lead to schools getting rid of sports, which is 181 00:13:03.480 --> 00:13:09.320 an awful thing to think about. All right again, Coffee and Company, 182 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:13.639 that's us. We are a few about Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. 183 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:18.639 Appreciate you hanging out with us here on a beautiful Thursday afternoon. Coleman 184 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:22.879 Hawkins, that's a name we've talked about before. Obviously, he is one 185 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:26.440 of the best players still available in the portal, probably was one of the 186 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:28.240 better players. I mean, if you just rank guys whether they're available or 187 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:31.720 not in the portal, I'd say he'd probably still be up there. Had 188 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:35.960 a really good run at Illinois. He sent out a tweet about thirty minutes 189 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:39.600 ago that he quickly deleted, but I got a screenshot of it, and 190 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:41.639 I actually tweeted it out and I have no clue what to make of it. 191 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:50.440 But he sent out. I guess he responded to the yes. So 192 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:54.720 Frank anselom Ivy, who is one of the he was actually the last guy 193 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:58.600 to commit to Louisville taking that thirteenth scholarship. They made it official earlier today 194 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:03.480 because they're, i mean, each a few players. Each day, Uel 195 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:07.080 is putting out a press release with some quotes from Pat Kelcey on these players 196 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:09.600 and really telling, you know, giving them the full bio and all that. 197 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:13.600 And today, earlier today, they did Frank Anselomibi, who is the 198 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:18.159 guy who transferred from most recently Georgia but also played two years at Syracuse. 199 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:26.440 So he shared it, meaning Frank and it says officially part of the revival. 200 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:31.200 Let's do it coordination. Well, then Coleman Hawkins quote tweeted that shared 201 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:35.039 it and said hey Frank, and he posted a picture of the two of 202 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:43.519 them playing together at Prolific Prep and he quickly deleted it, which I don't 203 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:50.240 know why he deleted it. But Louisville doesn't have a scholarship available right now. 204 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:54.480 There has been some talk about one of the guys that's injured maybe not 205 00:14:54.000 --> 00:15:00.159 being on scholarship during that season when they're not playing. I don't know if 206 00:15:00.200 --> 00:15:03.919 that's legit or why they would want to do that, but maybe there's a 207 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:11.279 way around it. I really don't know. But you know, Louisville meaning 208 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:16.000 Pat Kelsey and his staff, I mean, I think they've they've still kept 209 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:20.799 tabs on some of these guys, staying communication and so when I understand if 210 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:26.639 they could still go get a really good player like Coleman Hawkins, they would 211 00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:28.440 find a way to make it work. Now, I don't know if they're 212 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:31.960 going to be able to because I don't know much money they have left available. 213 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:35.200 I'd say they spent a lot of money to put together a roster that 214 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:37.960 right now, again is pretty damn good from from you know, from what 215 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:41.799 I can tell, some good pieces that you know, you had to pay 216 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:43.919 for because that's you know, that's the cost to doing business now. So 217 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:50.679 it could be that Louisville still is talking to this young man and maybe seeing 218 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:56.279 if there's some mutual interest and maybe they're trying to think of a way to 219 00:15:56.320 --> 00:16:02.679 where they could make it work somehow. Or it could be Coleman Hawkins just 220 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:07.720 trying to drive up a price and insinuating that Louisville is interested, because that's 221 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:12.200 how this works. I mean, Louisville is out of scholarships right now. 222 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:15.519 So maybe that's why he deleted it. Maybe he realized, hey, this 223 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:18.480 is I'm being too obvious here about you know, trying to drive up the 224 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:26.159 price because everybody knows Louisville actually doesn't have a scholarship available. But Louisvill's been 225 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:29.879 one of these schools in basketball. In fact, the Athletic article we referenced 226 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:33.480 a few weeks ago that broke down, like the biggest spenders right now so 227 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:37.000 far this during this cycle with nil and the portal, Louisville is one of 228 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:41.919 them, Louisville, Indiana, Kentucky, Baylor. It was another random one. 229 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:45.000 I can't think of who it was that was in there that kind of 230 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:48.200 surprised me. But either way, like if the narrative out there is that 231 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:52.320 Louisville has got a lot of money and they'll pay, and he's throwing it 232 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:56.360 out there that there's some mutual interest, which I guess would be what you're 233 00:16:56.360 --> 00:17:00.480 trying to hint with that tweet. That could mean Okay, well, I 234 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:04.440 guess if we're gonna get involved this school or that school, we better make 235 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:11.279 sure we come correct with the bag. Because it's all about standing on business, 236 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:12.640 John, Right, That's what it's all about. It's gonna be the 237 00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:15.640 term for the year a few standing on business. So I don't know why 238 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:18.039 he deleted it, but maybe it's because he felt like it was too obvious. 239 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:22.319 And I do not expect Louisville to be in the mix here to get 240 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:27.359 him. But again, I think if they thought that they could meeting like 241 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:32.440 they had money, they think he would come here. They I think they'd 242 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:33.119 find a way to make it work. Now, I don't think that would 243 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:37.279 be getting rid of anybody. I don't think that would mean like they're going 244 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:41.920 to tell somebody, oh, sorry, we no longer need you go back 245 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:44.920 to the portal. I mean, I don't think that would be. I 246 00:17:44.920 --> 00:17:48.000 mean, that's not happening. They're not doing that. But I remember whenever 247 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:52.480 Kobe was his last name, I always forget his last name. No, 248 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:56.599 Kobe, the kid from Charleston that's going to going to set out because he's 249 00:17:59.240 --> 00:18:03.680 got him I've hurt in the NSAA tournament. But anyways, he's the late 250 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:07.160 addition from Charleston, and again he is going to sit out because of his 251 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:11.079 injury. I don't know why he'd be a walk on, but I had 252 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:15.240 heard around the time that he had that he'd joined in, that there was 253 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:18.880 some scenario to where he could maybe be on maybe not be on scholarship for 254 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:22.000 a year. I'm not reporting that. Maybe I shouldn't just throw it out 255 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:25.359 there, considering I don't know if there's any truth to it, but I'm 256 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:27.200 just trying to think of a scenario to where they would maybe you know, 257 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:30.880 be able to make this work. But again, already getting ahead of myself, 258 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:34.480 because I highly doubt that that that that ends up that ends up happening. 259 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:38.119 All right, Uh, let's see here, Let's go ahead and get 260 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:42.839 to our first break here in the five o'clock hour. I do what to 261 00:18:42.839 --> 00:18:48.960 talk some football coming up here on the other side, and we'll also get 262 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:52.279 to the text line. So keep it, keep it locked right here, 263 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:56.680 it's Coffee and Company. We are fueled. But Thornton's right here on Sports 264 00:18:56.680 --> 00:19:00.279 Talk seven ninety. All right, we do have some breaking news here, 265 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:08.440 like legitimately, some breaking news here as Donald Trump becomes the first former US 266 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:11.920 president convicted of felony crimes. I'll just hand it over to you. The 267 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:15.160 floor is yours, John. I know you got some strong oh yeah, 268 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:18.720 political thoughts here to share. On forty five, I do have a question, 269 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:23.200 like does this impact his presidential campaign? You're asking the wrong guy. 270 00:19:23.640 --> 00:19:27.759 I figured you didn't mean why not again political against Coffee and Company. I 271 00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:33.640 can say this without like, you know, this really has nothing to like. 272 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:37.480 I'm not sharing any thoughts on him and his ability to be our president. 273 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:44.680 But you asked does this have anything to do on his We'll go back 274 00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:47.119 to exactly what you said. I think I said, does this have any 275 00:19:47.160 --> 00:19:51.480 impact on his presidential campaign? For this year? You know how many times 276 00:19:51.480 --> 00:19:52.960 something has come up in the news about Trump where I thought the same thing, 277 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:56.240 and yet he's still He's still around, He's still fighting to do it 278 00:19:56.279 --> 00:19:59.200 again. I mean King benefit of the doubt. Yeah, I mean it's 279 00:19:59.319 --> 00:20:02.440 uh, yeah, I mean so, I guess there's a lot of pre 280 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:03.880 I wouldn't I don't know. I shouldn't speak for them across the hall on 281 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:07.680 has, but I would imagine that's probably something they're discussing and maybe even going 282 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:11.119 live, because there's there's live I don't. I think there's some kind of 283 00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:14.279 like a presser or something like that. Yes, it's Donald Trump has been 284 00:20:14.279 --> 00:20:18.440 convicted in his New York hush money trial, a landmark Jerry verdict, making 285 00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:21.359 him the first former American president to be foun guilty of felony crimes in the 286 00:20:21.400 --> 00:20:25.400 nation's nearly twitter and fifty year history. So a big piece of news, 287 00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:29.599 no doubt. Make of that. What you will react to that however you 288 00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:33.039 want. But I'm not asking for your reaction for it here. That's just 289 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:36.319 kind of not you know, it's not really what we do, all right. 290 00:20:36.359 --> 00:20:37.839 So let's talk some football, shall we. So I have a buddy 291 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:44.480 who does some writing, helps out with athlon sports and sporting news and helps 292 00:20:44.519 --> 00:20:48.119 out with their like preseason coverage for conferences and things like that, and he 293 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:52.480 knows that I'm you know, I'm sure there are many others that are more 294 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:56.599 connected and plugged in and knowledgeable about Louisville football than I am. But you 295 00:20:56.640 --> 00:20:59.960 know, I'm dangerous enough. And this is the guy that I've known for 296 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:02.519 a while now, so he asked me, you know, to put together 297 00:21:02.599 --> 00:21:07.559 who you know. He's got a little primer here that has for each side 298 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:10.359 Louisville offense, defense, and I'm sure they're doing this for every team, 299 00:21:10.359 --> 00:21:18.960 not just Louisville, but breakout player, top newcomer, freshman. It says 300 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:22.720 rookie ready, which I assume means freshman that's most ready to make an impact, 301 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:26.119 and then like the MVP, So I think on offense, it's going 302 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:29.759 to be more difficult. So let's let's just do defense for today and we'll 303 00:21:29.759 --> 00:21:34.720 do offense to mark because I think when it comes to breakout player, I 304 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:38.920 mean, there's a couple of options, but I feel comfortable in rolling with 305 00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:45.759 stan Kwan Clark. I mean, I think he's solidified his starting spot. 306 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:48.240 I'm sure he's gonna have to still compete in fall camp and whatnot, but 307 00:21:49.039 --> 00:21:52.960 at weak side linebacker, I mean, I mean Jalen Alderman is a guy 308 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:55.680 who played a lot last year, would have played this year. But I 309 00:21:55.680 --> 00:22:00.079 think Jalen Alderman leaving Louisville and heading to Miami is because I think he knew 310 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:03.720 he wasn't gonna beat out stan Kwan Clark, who was a really highly rated 311 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:10.839 recruit, four star kid in the twenty twenty one class I believe. Oh, 312 00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:12.960 I'm sorry, twenty twenty three class. So yeah, he was a 313 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:17.839 true freshman last year. Stan Kwan Clark he enrolled early, so maybe that's 314 00:22:17.839 --> 00:22:19.279 why I felt like he'd been here longer. But yeah, I mean, 315 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:23.519 I think he'll have a breakout year if I could go with somebody like as 316 00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:26.920 the backup, like you know, one A, one B, maybe, 317 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:27.839 although I do think it is going to be stan quonk Clark. But I 318 00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:33.880 think Benjamin Perry. Ben Perry is another good option for a potential breakout player. 319 00:22:33.720 --> 00:22:40.000 I mean, he's he's in that unique linebacker safety hybrid position and he 320 00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:41.160 may not be. I mean, he'd have to have like a monster year 321 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:45.079 to be a full breakout because he's played and been impactful. But I do 322 00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:48.359 think he's getting better and better and I really like him now. When it 323 00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:53.480 comes to the biggest newcomer as far as somebody who will have you know, 324 00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:57.119 on the defensive side of the ball the biggest impact. And I think we 325 00:22:57.119 --> 00:23:00.960 can all agree now when it comes to newcomer, you're not thinking freshman. 326 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:03.519 I think that's why they have it separated here, where there's one that's like 327 00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:07.319 rookie ready, the freshmen that could make an impact in year one, and 328 00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:15.640 then newcomer. I mean, i'd say ninety nine percent of every team's uh, 329 00:23:15.680 --> 00:23:17.799 you know, every team, every team in college nine to nine percent 330 00:23:17.799 --> 00:23:19.400 of the teams in college football, especially those of like the Power five I 331 00:23:19.400 --> 00:23:23.319 guess now Power four level, Like at the end of the year, once 332 00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:26.559 you wrap up the twenty twenty four season, if you were to have them 333 00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:30.880 give an award for biggest Newcomer of the year, I'd say, again, 334 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:33.319 ninety nine percent of them are going to be guys that transferred in. It's 335 00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:37.279 just I mean, freshmen could still play make an impact, like that's still 336 00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:38.839 that's gonna be rare, but I mean, you know, you'd have to 337 00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:41.359 be one of the may Sometimes you're gonna have guys who are some of the 338 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:45.559 best players in the country, I mean country that are that are guys that 339 00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:49.440 transferred in. So I'm gonna go with Thor Griffith, who is a nose 340 00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:55.119 tackle six two three twenty. Apparently this guy's an athletic freak. He's transferring 341 00:23:55.160 --> 00:23:57.039 in from is it Harvard? I believe it's one of the IVY League schools. 342 00:23:57.079 --> 00:24:00.400 Yah's Harvard, And you know, he's more of a wild card, 343 00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:03.400 I guess, just because he's making a big jump from the IVY League to 344 00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:11.000 Power for However, this guy is apparently like an athletic specimen. He's got 345 00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:14.079 the size. He was dominant in the IVY League, which again doesn't mean 346 00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:18.480 that he's going to be dominant in the power level when he steps up a 347 00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:23.759 notch. But he was already getting some interest from the NFL, and right 348 00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:26.480 after Louisville had snagged him, I remember one of the ride ups saying, 349 00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:30.039 well, this would give a lot of NFL scouts a chance to really see 350 00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:33.720 what he does when he plays against better competition, because he was dominant in 351 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:37.440 the IVY League and he was a four star in the portal not you know, 352 00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:41.240 coming out of high school. Imagine he probably wasn't somebody that had any 353 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:45.680 stars. But yeah, there was a lot of buzz about this guy when 354 00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:48.680 he announced he was going to come to Louisville, and I'm I'm I'm gonna 355 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:53.559 believe in the hype and enroll with him as far as MVP. I mean, 356 00:24:53.680 --> 00:25:00.960 I can't pick between the two. I can't do it. If forced, 357 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:03.039 I don't know which way I go. And I think you all know 358 00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:07.400 exactly who I'm talking about, and that's Quincy Riley and Ashton Jealotti. I 359 00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:15.279 think as much as Louisville did a good job in the portal once again bringing 360 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:19.240 in talented players and not only just doing that, but the guys you lost 361 00:25:19.279 --> 00:25:22.759 are guys that were not viewed to be as big a pieces as the guys 362 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:25.960 you brought in, which again is the ultimate goal of the portal, Right, 363 00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:27.960 get better, don't just go get good players. Make sure you don't 364 00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:30.279 lose your really good players, and Jef Brown once again has done that. 365 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:37.400 But I think the biggest piece of news for Louisville football this offseason was getting 366 00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:44.519 both those guys back, Ashton Jealotti and Quincy Riley, who are probably both 367 00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:48.319 gonna be guys drafted in the first couple rounds next year. So I don't 368 00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:53.839 know, I'd probably go with Riley over Jelatti, just because you know, 369 00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:56.799 I think, you know, you can have games, and I think Ashton's 370 00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:00.519 a super talent. He may be a first round pick, he probably will 371 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:03.200 be drafted ahead of Quincy, but I think he is someone that, like, 372 00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:08.640 you're gonna have games where they're gonna meeting other teams are gonna strategize to 373 00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:12.160 make him less. They're probably gonna hold him a lot and just hope they 374 00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:15.839 don't call it as many times to try to keep him from getting to the 375 00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:18.680 quarterback and make him plays. But Quincy Riley I feel like one of those 376 00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:23.880 guys that like he's gonna make an impact more often than not. And you 377 00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:27.359 could have games where Jelatti's just quiet. Doesn't mean he's not talented, don't 378 00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:30.400 mean he's not you know, playing his ass off. But you really can't 379 00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:33.319 go wrong with either of those guys. So if I had to pick one, 380 00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:37.400 I'd probably go with Riley. But those two, specifically Riley and Jelatti, 381 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:41.920 are a big mean they bring. Louisville brings back a lot of proven 382 00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:45.519 production from a good defense last year and again they got better in the portal. 383 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:53.240 Now, as far as the freshman that could make an impact, I 384 00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:59.039 mean, with the experience you have coming back and the guys you added in 385 00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:00.599 the portal, I'm not even sure if they're going to be looking to play 386 00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:06.759 many guys that are true freshmen on on defense that she here. To be 387 00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:11.279 honest with you, I mean, I just you know, I would say, 388 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:18.839 just you know, just just guessing here. I'd probably go with give 389 00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:23.200 me, give me Maurice Davis. He's an edge which who is from the 390 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:27.720 Georgia area, was a three star in some a four star in others. 391 00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:32.880 I'll I'll roll with him just because you know, it's six four, two 392 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.559 fifteen, pretty decent offers coming out of high I mean, I'm just what 393 00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:37.720 I'm doing here is trying to figure out a guy that like, hey, 394 00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:41.880 if you can get off the edge and make plays like that's one of those 395 00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:44.680 things that hey, there, they could use that at any time, right 396 00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:48.000 if you're ready to come in as an edge rusher and get and get after 397 00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:49.920 the quarterback and cause havoc. You know, you don't need like a ton 398 00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:52.960 of experience to be able to get out there and make some plays and do 399 00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:55.039 that. So I would roll with him. But I don't think you're gonna 400 00:27:55.039 --> 00:28:00.319 need to depend on many true freshmen on defense in fact with the portal. 401 00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:03.680 I mean, if you're a true freshman, what's your expectation when you get 402 00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:07.039 to college. I guess it really depends on what position you play. But 403 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:11.480 if you're on offense and you're a quarterback and you're a true freshman, unless 404 00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:15.000 you're one of these like elite of the elite, I think you probably just 405 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:18.440 have to accept that it's going to take a little while for you to hit 406 00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:22.640 the field and have a big role unless you want to start at a lower 407 00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:30.839 level than what you know you're capable of playing at. I'm sure somebody will 408 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:34.640 run the numbers again, but last year in the Power five conferences and again 409 00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:41.960 now there's only four what was it like sixty seven or seventy somewhere between sixty 410 00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:45.920 seven and seventy percent of the starting quarterbacks last year in the Power five or 411 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:52.480 transfers, and I think that number is probably going to keep growing. I 412 00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:56.599 can't wait to get these preseason magazines. That's still the only piece of print 413 00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:03.359 writing I buy is the preseason athlon. Lindy's does one, and then Phil 414 00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:08.160 Steele. I mean his is probably more loaded than anybody else's, but you'd 415 00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:11.200 have to like order it online and I don't, you know, not no 416 00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:14.720 offense to Phil Steel, but I don't. I'm not going to go to 417 00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:17.279 my way to do that. But if I'm at Kroger is something and I'm 418 00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:18.759 walking around and I see they got it, They've got it. The you 419 00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:22.400 know the new magazine up. I mean, that's like one of the one 420 00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:26.680 of the many signs that tells me that college football is you know, approaching, 421 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:30.000 not quickly approaching, because the summer really seems to drag once we get 422 00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:34.200 you know, to like July, because we're just starving for football to start. 423 00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:38.039 Isn't July when those magazines usually get released, or I believe so. 424 00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:42.480 I think I think it's usually around usually around July, and I can't wait 425 00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:47.839 for it. All right. So, for those who missed the beginning of 426 00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:51.359 the show when we talked about the you know, the port we did. 427 00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:52.519 You just heard to talk about the portal and the numbers and all that. 428 00:29:52.559 --> 00:30:00.119 But as much as the recent conversation was about how just because you you know, 429 00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:02.759 hit the point like not everybody that's in the portal is being pursued by 430 00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:04.559 these big schools with a bunch of money being offered to them. There's a 431 00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:08.680 lot of guys who hit the portal because they felt as if they weren't getting 432 00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:11.000 a fair shot, and then they it kind of ends their career, which 433 00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:14.119 is an unfortunate thing. It didn't have to end their career, but maybe 434 00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:15.759 they learned the hard way. Hey, I'm not like I need to do 435 00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:21.039 something else because basketball is not for me. And look, maybe that ends 436 00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:25.200 up being the best thing for them. But one of the benefits to the 437 00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:29.160 portal like take away the student athlete. Not to say like we don't care 438 00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:33.680 about them, but this is entertainment. We are fans of college basketball and 439 00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:37.279 it's something we watch for entertainment because we love we love the sport, and 440 00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.279 we clearly love the teams around here. I don't know how you could argue 441 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:47.720 that it's not good for college basketball that we have free agency with the portal 442 00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:51.079 and nil to where they can make money, to where they don't have to 443 00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:56.119 go and play overseas. Because last night, after the deadline hit, and 444 00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:57.079 everybody, you know, we knew who was going to be coming back to 445 00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:00.559 college basketball and who was going to be staying in the NBA draft. The 446 00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:04.039 ACC Player of the Year, the PAC twelve Player of the Year, one 447 00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:07.880 first team All American, two second Team All Americans, and two third Team 448 00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:15.000 All Americans are all coming back to college basketball, and six seven years ago 449 00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:18.440 that would have never happened. And it's because they wouldn't have any incentive to 450 00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:26.079 come back. They would be they would be wanting to start making money and 451 00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:30.880 not playing for free in college. And I don't blame them, Like, 452 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:37.160 if you know the NBA is never in your future, but you know you 453 00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.440 can make a living playing basketball, why are you going to stick around in 454 00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:44.079 college and develop for free? You can develop, And look, if you 455 00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:47.000 want to stay in college because you love the experience and you value your education, 456 00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:49.680 then that's great, but you know you can, Like I always use 457 00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:53.200 this example, what I do to make a living is not something that is 458 00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:56.920 going to be at least I hope not like impossible for me to do when 459 00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:00.640 I get much older. If you're going to make a living playing professional sports, 460 00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:07.640 you have a window, and that window is you know, probably honestly, 461 00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:10.480 probably six years at max. If you're really like, if you're gonna 462 00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:14.279 make a lot of money, like playing overseas, you can do it longer, 463 00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:16.839 but you probably as you get older, won't be as as highly sought 464 00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:20.960 after and you know, probably won't get the same kind of contract unless you're 465 00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:23.440 just playing it like an insanely high level. So like it seemed crazy. 466 00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:30.240 People would always say they're they're going pro where better have fun in Argentina Like 467 00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:32.279 you would hear people mock these guys for doing that, And if you really 468 00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:36.640 think about it, it makes total sense. At that age, you know, 469 00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.720 twenty one, twenty two, that's their chance to go and really maximize 470 00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:45.200 the you know, the amount of money they can make now they can do 471 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:49.079 it in college, so they're sticking around. That's good for the sport. 472 00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.720 And again, if you are a fan of a team who seems to always 473 00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:55.880 get hit with the portal in a bad way and your coach maybe hasn't adapted 474 00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:00.160 or your program doesn't have good on nil resources, I'm sure you see it 475 00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:07.079 as a negative thing, no doubt about it. However, from an entertainment 476 00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:10.960 standpoint, from you know, the product that is college basketball, this is 477 00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:16.319 this is a good thing and the proof is there. What if Zach Edy 478 00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:21.160 would have come back, Like why didn't he likes he'll be drafted, especially 479 00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:23.240 since it's a weak draft and I think he actually has a chance to play 480 00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:29.240 a very specific role in the NBA. But like Zach Edy could have come 481 00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:32.440 back to college and hit the portal and not played at Purdue and probably broke 482 00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:36.920 the record for an aisle. Right, Yeah, that could be the case. 483 00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:38.119 I don't know that if. I don't think he would have left Purdue 484 00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:43.519 if he came back. Yeah, some about Purdue players. Just Purdue have 485 00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:45.400 a lot of money in aile. I don't know that they do. Then, 486 00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:49.559 the only major player, I mean, outside of Zach Edy going to 487 00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:53.039 the NBA that they lost through the transfer portal was Mason Gillis, who's going 488 00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:58.599 to Duke. Everybody else is returning guys. Yeah. The only pro is 489 00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:00.279 Edi, right, yes, yes, so they have one other guy transfer, 490 00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:02.720 but it was somebody off the bench. I can't even think of who 491 00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:07.480 it was. But they lost two major guys from their runner up rosters. 492 00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:12.239 I'm sure they'll be I think most projections have them again as the bench. 493 00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:15.840 Sure they they didn't. They already have another giant on their bench. Matt 494 00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:20.719 Painter's always got He finds them, man, he's always and they're usually people 495 00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:23.760 who aren't really sought after. Oh I know. I mean it's not as 496 00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:28.119 if they're going and getting dudes you've never heard of, but and actually they 497 00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:30.599 are. They probably are guys that the average fan hasn't ever heard of. 498 00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:35.119 But you know, like for example, Edie was like a three star kid 499 00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:37.480 who was at Adam Canada. Yeah, I mean, and he he had 500 00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:39.880 options, but I don't think anybody ever thought he'd be you know, the 501 00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:44.039 player that he turned in to be. Yeah, I mean, I'm looking 502 00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:46.039 here. They got a guy that's six' ten, that's it. That's 503 00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:52.039 that's a really short short player compared to the giants that they've got a foot 504 00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:53.599 range. I'm not sure of his name. Yeah, oh yeah, they 505 00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:58.559 do. Daniel Jacobson. He is, he's a freshman and he's seven foot 506 00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:05.000 three and shorter than Eady. It is crazy though, because not to say 507 00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:08.599 other schools don't recruit giants anymore, but like, if you are a guy 508 00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:15.440 that is in that if if that's your frame, and you know you're a 509 00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:19.079 little worried about how the game is changing and you don't really fit with like 510 00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:22.119 the new way the modern basketball, you better hope that the phone rings and 511 00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:25.119 it's Matt Painter because he'll still use you like an old school big and it'll 512 00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:29.000 work. You'll have something. They got to the championship game this year, 513 00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:30.280 no doubt, and he looked Edie was a really good player. I mean 514 00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:34.920 he was. He was phenomenal. And to me, he's the first guy 515 00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:37.719 that I you know, he'll get drafted, right like other really good big 516 00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:42.480 like Hunter Dickinson. I don't think he'll ever get drafted. And I don't 517 00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:44.880 know if he'll ever play in the NBA, like you know, legitimately as 518 00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:47.280 a guy that's on a contract and who knows what happens with Edie, But 519 00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:53.360 like Edie was so productive and big, and you know, like he really 520 00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:58.280 just comes down to style with him more than anything. Like I don't think 521 00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:00.920 he's he's I think he's at enough. He's strong enough, he's got good 522 00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:07.760 hands. And like even if a team wants to run and run it, 523 00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:10.719 run it and pull guys away from the floor, I mean mean pull guys 524 00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:14.159 away from the rim, I should say, like if you put Dye in 525 00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:17.000 and let him post up, like you know, that's a weapon. Now, 526 00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:21.239 it's probably again a very unique role, but it could work. All 527 00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:22.039 right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side. Wrap this 528 00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:24.800 thing up. It's coffee and Company Fiel about Thornt's right here on Sports Talk 529 00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:31.039 seven ninety Is this Zach Zach Brown? It is you, Zach Brown fan. 530 00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:35.400 I can dig the vibe every once in a while, I don't listen 531 00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:38.320 to it regularly. Is he still active? I think they are. 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Start, could be right about three, 557 00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:05.719 maybe a little bit after, kind of just depends. There's a baseball game 558 00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:07.719 beforehand, so uh, you know, we'll be here when we can. 559 00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:14.360 Out of our control at least I think so. Maybe John's the one who's 560 00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:16.840 been demanding UK baseball stay right here. On Sports Talk seven ninety it was 561 00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:21.239 you. Wasn't it first the UK baseball pregame show, now the postgame show. 562 00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:23.920 Would an honor resumes getting more and more impressive, isn't it? Oh 563 00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:27.239 yeah, good stuff. All right, have a good night. Everybody's see tomorrow.