Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. Well, Hello,
how are you doing today? I hope you're well. People ask me
all the time, Cliff, why did you launch Destiny? What? What
does Destiny? How does it work? How does it relate to Earth Ancients
or Earth Ancient Special Edition in the archives? And I always say this,
My intention was to have a a compliment to Earth Agients. And when I
say a compliment, you know, I can't cover everything in one podcast that
I want to cover, And so when I launched Destiny, it was to
compliment the content of Earth Agents. And when I say compliment, it's the
subtleties, it's the consciousness raising techniques. It is previous epics, previous civilization
material on living the best you can in you know, in rhythm with Gaia,
And this is really critical and as our awareness grows of our past and
we enter into the future, it's really critical that we are tuned as means
to be the best we can physically, mentally, and spiritually. And these
sacred traditions of physical activity, mental activity, spiritual activity like medication like yoga,
like therapies that opened the brain kind of clear out trauma because many of
us had parents and I'm included, who just didn't get it. They didn't
understand how to raise kids. A lot of people had wonderful, very proactive
in the moment parents, but a lot of us didn't. And I love
my parents, but they were challenged and it was tough for them. So
I had to discover a lot on my own. And this brings up fears
and stresses and traumas that have to be dealt with. But what my idea
behind Destiny was to make you the listener or offer you what I call tools
for transformation. And these are techniques and talks and interviews with experts, authors,
scientists, some our therapists who have been working with people to help them
perceive their reality, perceive their physicality, and perceive their impact on others.
Now, today's program is on empathy, and this is an interesting topic because
it has to do with connecting with our neighbors, our friends, interact with
work associates, people you meet in the street, casual meetings, personal meetings.
When we're empathic, it's connecting and feeling and sensing what this other person
is all about. Now we do it almost automatically, and it's important to
realize that when we're empathic with somebody, we're picking up on what their state
is about, what their body mind is, perhaps even spirit are all about.
And my guest today ties it all together with various types of empathy and
why it's important to be aware of your impact on others because if you walk
around and you're talking and you're seeing whatever comes to your mind and you're not
using your editor, it causes problems. And I have friends that have the
on the spectrum, the autistic spectrum, and there's a lot of very famous
people that are on the spectrum and they just say whatever comes to mind,
and that it's tough. It's tough because you can hurt people's feelings you're not
using your filters, and it is a challenge to be a social being when
you have issues like that. Now, the lightest version, and I have
a lot of friends that have this is called Aspergers, and this is a
form of autism that is very light, but it is definitely effective when you
are in relationships, when you are communicating with others. And not all people
with this affliction have no governor in terms of how they deliver and how they
speak to others, but a lot of my friends too, And I actually
have a relative that has this, and you know, he's done as much
work as he can, but it's just it just comes out. Sometimes it
can be it can be a challenge. But the program today has to deal
with being sensitive, being connecting through energetics, which you know we don't always
talk about but today we will, and being having a sense of your impact
on other people. That's that's a critical point. Now I'm going to play
a real short audio from Alexander Lynn on communicating with empathy, and then we're
going to jump into our interview because it's longer than normal and it's very,
very impactful. I was very very I was very happy to have this program
today for some reason. It's one of those tools that connects us with Gaya
because, as you'll hear in the interview, when we're open to connecting,
when we're out in nature, when we're in a place we love, that
is a form of connecting with empathy, connecting and feeling Gaya, feeling nature,
feeling source energy. So let's how quick listen to this audio with Alexander
Lynn on communicate with empathy, and in this video we're going to talk about
empathy So how much empathy do you naturally have for other people? How able
are you to understand where they are coming from in the moment. This one
concept is one of the most powerful concepts that we can use. We really
embrace it to change the way we interact with other people for the better.
So several weeks ago, I was going through McDonald's drive through, ordering my
egg McMuffin it's like the one item that's my weakness at Big Doddle's. And
I pulled up to the cashier and he had amazing customer service. I'll call
him John. Put that in quote. It's not his real name. John
had amazing customer service. The way he talked to me, the way he
looked at me, it really felt genuine, not like a robot and ilok,
he's trying to move me along and get rid of me. Really felt
special. And I told him, I said, John, I just want
you to know you have amazing customer service and every time I interact with you,
you're amazing. And he said, you know it really thank you.
First of all, thank you, he said, it really comes down to
empathy. He has nailed it. He knew cashier drive through, he knew
empathy. So let's talk a little bit about what empathy means, and then
we'll boil it down to some ways that it shapes your communication like it did
with John. First of all, empathy is understanding the other person's feelings.
When you're able to put yourself in their shoes, take on their point of
view, and take their perspective on the world, and on the moment,
you are going to understand their feelings, you're going to be able to connect
with what they are experiencing in that moment much more effectively. There is a
famous writer and speaker named Burnet Brown, and she talks a lot about empathy,
especially the difference between empathy and sympathy, and she said, sympathy divides
people. Sympathy says to someone else, oh you or thing, and it
pushes them away a little bit in that way. But empathy has the opposite
effect. Empathy is where you actually feel what they're feeling. You enter their
world, whether it's a difficult or negative emotion or a positive and happy emotion.
And I think this is something worth exploring for a second. A lot
of times when we think of empathy, we think of what are people's struggles
and what are people going through in that negative sense, and certainly that's what
counseling is about it. As a leader, you have to be in touch
with people's difficulties. But empathy is also entering their positive emotions and feeling what
they're feeling, celebrating their successes with them, sharing their joy. That can
really connect you with other people as well. So let's talk about three ways
that communicating with empathy shapes your communication with other people, and it certainly shaped
my interaction with John, the guy at McDonald's. First of all, we
have more compassion in our communication when we empathize, So I could really tell
that as a employee, John cared about me as silly as it sounds.
He's communicating to me in nonverbals with eye contact with the carrying expression, and
his verbal message is the tiny little word choices that show you he sees you
and he understands what you're going through right now it's early in the morning.
He knows it's hard, and he was just connecting with me. So he
had much more compassion is communication because he empathized. The second way is that
we will shape our messages a little differently when we have the other person's perspective
in mind. So now I'm not just communicating saying what's on my mind,
but I'm thinking about how this might land and connect with you as I communicated.
So I'm tailoring my message in a way that's going to meet you where
you are. And so that's really what happened through the drive through. Even
though I might have been the fiftieth or hundredth person that came through the drive
through that morning, I really felt like I was the first customer to come
through because it was my first time coming through. John knows this, and
so he's talking to me like it's my first experience. He's not treating me
like he's already talked to a hundred people. He's treating me like this is
the first customer of the day, and he's happy to see me and he
cares about my order. So that's one of the ways that empathy will change
the way you interact with people. You will shape your messages with the other
person in mind. And the third way is that our messages are much more
likely to connect. So if it's built around connecting with the other person and
where they are, your messages will end up hitting the target. You won't
be out of touch or tone deaf, and the way you communicate with people,
you'll communicate with them to where they are and you're much more likely to
connect in that way. And so John had to drive through again. Did
this in lots of ways, his facial expression, nonverbals, everything he said.
He made me feel like we were two people, two huge human beings
connecting and talking, even it was very brief, Rather than a worker and
a customer, we were just outside of our roles a little bit more those
narrow roles of customer and worker to one person talking to another person. And
that's what empathy feels like. When you transcend those narrow professional roles that you
feel stuck in. Sometimes empathy will break you out of that and then you
connect person to person. So he's offering a very simplistic version of empathy,
but it's an important one and it's the one we typically use outside of the
people that we live with, loved ones, close relationships, family, etc.
And it's a good starting point. But we're going to be drilling down
on a much much deeper level and talking about energy and talking about multiple dimensions
and how working with the chakra system and the aura as well as past lives
all come into play on this, and so again we're gonna dial it up
and we're really gonna present it's a real fun interview on empathic life and why
it's important to be aware of empathy. So today's program is with Suzanne Worthly
and the book we're discussing is Confident EmPATH, A Complete Guide to Multidimensional Empathing
and Energetic Protection. So I've always wondered, you know, am I an
EmPATH? Or do I just pick up on people's stuff and then relay it
back to them. I have to ask myself this a lot, and I've
had people talk to me about this as a podcaster, podcast host, what's
going on with empathy towards other people. My guest today has written a fascinating
book called Confident Impath, A Complete Guide to Multidimensional Empathing and Energetic Protection.
And I had to have her on the program simply because not only does she
talk about the fundamentals of impath being an impath, but there's different levels that
she I don't think anyone quite has written a book like this. She gets
into the different levels of being an impath and having this gift and then fine
tuning the gift, which I think is quite fun. My guest today is
Susanne Worthily. She is an energy healer. She is a psychic impath.
She's written another book called an Energy Healer's Book of Dying and would you believe
she's coming to us from Minnesota today in her cabin. So, hey,
Susanne, welcome to Destiny. Great to have you. Thanks for having me.
Yeah, it looks typical Minnesotan behind me, doesn't it. I love
it. I love the I love this the old I guess those are snow
snow shoes. Yeah, yeah, those are great. All right. Hey,
talk about being an impact? How did you at certain at a certain
age you must have thought while I'm really picking up on people, I guess
I'm an impact. Talk about your journey in your work. What does it
mean for you as an What is an impact? Well? Thank you for
having me, by the way, because I do I I do believe this
is a really important subject matter, especially right now, because so many people
are waking up to the concept. And it is confusing because a lot of
people don't really know what the concept of an EmPATH is. They confuse empathy
and EmPATH thing. So empathy is our birthright. It's our birthright as a
human. We are designed as a human vehicle to feel what others feel,
because that's a beautiful, supportive thing. But an EmPATH is different. So
empathy means I'm going to walk in your shoes, I'm going to feel your
pain. I'm going to be aware of it. But an EmPATH steals the
shoes, takes the shoes, makes the shoes their own, and keeps them.
And so it is, I'm going to take all of your pain and
I'm going to make it mine and I'm going to keep it and I'm going
to get sick. So empathing is very, very different, and I think
people confuse the word a lot. And not only that, thank you for
pointing out that I wrote this from a multiverse kind of perspective because most empathbooks
talk about people, which is very important, But we EmPATH everything, and
so we can EmPATH people, places, spaces, paranormal, off planet,
you name it. And this is getting really dangerous, right Yeah. I
really like how you you placed that as part of a function of being a
physical human being, is that empathy is part of your your wiring right.
It's pretty much everybody has it in your case, though, you're an energy
practitioner, so you must have sense that you're dialed in a little more than
average, right, talk about that. I was always dialed in ever since
the beginning, and I write really pretty vulnerably in this book and telling my
stories of being a child that was completely connected to the galactic alien realm and
very sick and very telepathically communicating, etc. So I was tapped in since
day one. And then, like most people, you know, when I
found out that I was kind of like not normal, as they say back
then, you know, you're kind of you do what, you're kind of
a weirdo. I kind of dialed that back for many years, and then
it came back with kind of like a vengeance in my thirties and that's when
all my psychic skills came back. But I was intuitive and tapped in and
empathic my whole life in terms of energy, my whole life. It never
was on, it never was off, and you just you just kind of
spilled the beans. Suzanne. You're like, I had alien communication and what's
that mean? Were you like outside and you saw a ship fly by and
they were telepathically saying hello? Or was it like their dimensional beings. What
was it? They were dimensional beings that would be on my ceiling every night,
and I really really write it pretty tell the whole story in this book.
I had three literal heads on my ceiling that telepathically spoke to me every
night when I was six and seven years old, and telepathically I thought everybody
understood that. I thought everybody them, and they were guidance. They were
taking care of me. I had a very dangerous blood disease that came about
out of nowhere, and the aliens were telling me that they were working on
me and working on my body and keeping me safe. And then other nights,
I explained in the book that other nights, the so called bad aliens
would come to visit, and I knew intuitively which ones I needed to hide
from, and these were the ones that were trying to actually do something to
my physical form. And so there was a bit of a war over my
body, even at age seven, and so I understood and felt paranormal off
planet galactic experiences since day one. I was actually very confused Cliff that I
thought everybody saw them. I didn't understand that nobody else. Well, I
had to say this, you came into a body and you are super aware
and to have this kind of language with me that you're like aliens were coming
after you at six and seven and communicating with you. You have a script
in this lifetime, which is fascinating. That's all I can say. That
you are made aware of off world types communicating with you, and that's pretty
heavy duty. Yeah, I think a lot of us are afraid of that.
You're wide open it because you had it, you interacted at a young
age. What's the benefit of that? You think? What what? What's
the what's the decode on that you know? I'm in the middle. We
chatted just prior to this. I'm in the middle of the third book that
I'm doing and telling those secrets because it was there's benefits, but there's also
struggles. Being what we would coin a star seed. Many star seeds came
to this planet to actually assist and help and teach and work with this ascension
process and activate human bodies so that they remember what they know. And this
is part of being an mpath and most of us star seeds that came to
this planet have a very clear inner knowing of things that others don't and that
can be very lonely. It can be very sad, it can be very
frustrating, but it also can be incredibly beautiful because I can see things differently.
It doesn't make me better or cooler, but it just certainly gives me
a job to do in terms of understanding a bigger scope of things. And
I've always had that ever since I was a child. I've always had it.
And then, of course, sole contract wise, I pick a family
with a father who's a mortician, and I did that, and then you're
talking about how your dad went out of business and how how crushing that was.
Yeah. Yeah, but death and dying hence the first book. Yeah,
death and dying was very normal for me, and I understood the realms
beyond. So you asked what the benefit is. The benefit is is that
inner knowing of peace and calm, that this is only a very finite existence,
and so get all you can out of it. You know that that's
the that's the beauty, right. Yeah. Give us an idea of the
average person's empathic ability. You talk about this. You actually have a wonderful
example in the very early part of your book where you talk about how someone
interacts with a friend and they have a conversation, and the impath tends to
be more comforting and supportive, whereas somebody who's displaying sympathy it's more like,
yeah, okay, get this person away from me. I don't want to
deal with it. Talk a little bit about the two sympathy versus empathy and
why empathy is more of a positive focus. Right, Empathy means again,
I walk in your shoes, I can feel your pain and be aware of
it. When I have sympathy, empathy, true empathy, balanced, confident
empathy, and empathy means neutrality, It means no judgment attached. It means
my ego is out of the way. But when we start to get into
sympathy and pity, my ego is in the way and I'm actually making judgment
on you, and I'm judging the fact that you know, I think that
that's you know, not good, or you're pathetic, or you're sad or
your whatever. And the EmPATH that is not confident or trained has a tendency
to work in a fear based way with judgment attached, and it often comes
back to their feeling of themselves. And so it's an energy transference that we
really, really explain, I really explain deeply in the book how the energy
transference. We flip the narrative and it starts to be about us. So
true empathy, I stay neutral. I support, but I don't judge.
Empathy turns into sympathy and pity when I start to judge and I start to
have my ego in there. Does that make some sense? Yeah? It
does. And I like how you open the our talk by saying, this
is who we are. We're all wired for this. And I guess the
thing is, though some people are more like I use the term dialed into
their empathic side, ability to really see somebody who is wounded or is dealing
with a problem and gives help. Now, the next question I had for
you is what are the two sides you're dealing with? Helping somebody who wants
to become a therapist. On the other side of it, it's somebody who
is wanting to be more helpful, but not necessarily wanting to take on people
in a therapeutic role. So I guess the question I have for you is
how do you know when you are somebody who is able to be empathetic?
And how do you I mean, do we want to crossover. I guess
it's all personal choice. Do I want to be a therapist or do I
want to just be somebody who's kind and sensitive to others. It's a fine
line, and I can see how you're even struggling to articulated because it is
a fine line. Yeah, here's the tipping point. The tipping point is
this when I can give you all the advice in the world, and I
can be there and support you and listen to you and give you all kinds
of aid and support and love, etc. But when I hold onto it
with an actual energetic chord of return, meaning now I'm going to wait to
see if you took my advice. I'm going to see if you actually did
something. This is where the conditionalization starts to come into play and the energy
starts to transfer differently. When we are truly in a loved base, non
conditional we are I will give you all the support and energy that you want,
but I will never judge it, and I will never wait to be
validated from you changing because I so called fixed. You See, the mpath
wants to fix everybody because in essence, the EmPATH themselves are the ones that
feel uncomfortable. But nobody realizes that until they read this stuff. Right.
Yeah, yeah, it's difficult. It's a really hard subject. But once
you get it, you're starting to understand, Oh, my goodness, if
I'm feeling sad for you, if I'm feeling that you really really are having
this horrible thing happen, I'm judging that from my own paradigm in perspective,
not allowing that soul to have an embodiment of a lesson that they chose from
a higher space. Well, let me just shop you right there. It's
a great point. So if you're an EmPATH or you're sensitive and you're picking
up that someone's having a hard time, rather than thinking self pity this person
who's just having a problem, they're always going to have a problem. You
should try to be more open and allow them to have theirs. It is.
Yeah, that's a tough one. I tend to be over controlling with
this. It's like, look, why don't you try this, try that
you should Just what you're saying is just shut up and let him ride.
Well, and truly, I did not write this book without practicing what I
preach. I have four adult children, and through all the years and plus
raised God knows how many in my yard, and I literally to this day
will be very aware of letting things go. I can give my children advice,
I can think about them, but I will not hang onto the world
or the validation that oh he or she took my advice and now they're doing
what I set because that makes me right. This is the energy transference happening.
Do you see? Yeah, that's interesting. Early in the book you
talk about protecting yourself when you are working with people. What does that mean
and what are the areas that are key signs that you need to begin looking
at the data that you're receiving or the energy you're receiving. Right, protecting
yourself doesn't only mean a practitioner. Because I'm an energy practitioner and I do
this all day long for work. I double up on my so called ability
to keep protected. And that protection isn't always about fear protection. The way
that I write it in the Analogy of the book is that this vehicle,
my divine vehicle, needs to have gas, which is my connection to life
force. But more importantly, I need a really good gas tank so that
I hold my fuel. That's the protection, so that I have a discernment
process that says, oh goodness, I just walked into something that does not
resonate as mine. Oh my, I walked into fear that I can now
discern is not mine. Oh my, I walked into something dangerous that is
not good for me. And so protection is really a tool of discernment,
and that all comes basically from your oric field, and so me as a
practitioner, but me also as a human Suzanne body is very aware of her
oric field, so that I'm keeping my gas tank in great shape, and
that's what I do my best to teach. I think that's fascinating. Tell
us the story, and it sounds terrible of early in your sensitivity training.
I think this is not something you set up to do. You were injured,
you were forced off a staircase. Talk about this story because I find
it so amazing that these negative energies were physically attacking you. Oh yeah,
yeah, yeah yeah. I was punneled down a staircase, is what it
was. So this was early in my career, and I when I started
my energy work, I remember some people saying, oh, you need to
learn protection, and I kept thinking ignorantly, well, why would I need
protection. If I'm working in the light and I'm working in love, that's
silly. I don't need protection. And I worked on a young man that
was living with us at the time who had been very involved in some dark
things. And I did not clear my room well enough post session. And
I did it. I was just kind of flippant, and we went in
the house and I didn't think two shakes about it, and I came out
the next morning to do my own meditating. And at that point in time,
the garage where my healing room was in the loft was under construction,
so the staircase was open, so it was open on the side, and
it's twenty two stairs at a very steep height, and I'm five to seven
five eight, and I hit the second stare upside down on my head because
it was in the dust, you could see it. And so I got
pummeled by a dark force that did not want me to do any work on
myself or clear that room. Push trip, just like you push you could
fill some physical push, yeah, And I mean it was violent, and
I landed on the cement slab down below. And at this point in time,
I was still a corporate executive and I was leaving for Long Beach the
very next morning to do quite a significant trade show that I produced trade shows,
and I literally ended up in the emergency room. And again one of
my skills is to be able to astral project. I can go out of
my body and hear things and see things, and I'm in the actual room,
and well, let me back up. So I crawled out of the
garage on like army, crawling like a child because I couldn't move, and
I kept screaming to source energy. You will not, you know, come
and help me. This dark energy will not take me down, because I
was so racked, and I kind of gimped my way out into the backyard
where my son found me and he brought me into ear and I was sitting
in the ar and I could astrally hear two doctors talking about me out in
the lobby, saying, I don't understand why she's not more broken. She
should have this wrong, she should have that wrong. So again, being
an energy healer has its benefits, right, I mean, I locked into
reorganizing my own self and my own body very quickly, but it really took
a number on me, not only physically, but more so emotionally to realize
this is dangerous stuff if we're not taking it seriously. To take on some
buddy's dark energy like that and leave it in my room was really not beneficial
to anything or anyone, especially my body. This person, you though,
Susanne, were they I mean, were you working with them for like a
few hours normally a clearing kind of okay? Yeah, normally a session is
around an hour, hour and a half sometimes, um. And this particular
young man had a lot going on. We had taken him off the streets.
He was somebody that we knew in the younger days, a friend of
my child, and he literally was living on the streets at that point with
the drugs and the whole nine yards and really dark stuff. And we had
just taken him into our home, and so I didn't I didn't realize how
many attachments he came with. Wow. So you know, all these years
later, I mean, attachments are really super easy for me to do now,
as are all kinds of you know, invasions on the body and the
soul, et cetera. But back then I was pretty new at this,
and so I didn't I didn't really have my game on. Wow, you
sure woke up quickly. They baptism by fire right. I mean that's what
they say. Um, I want you. You just touched on something that
we don't typically talk about. But what is it? An attachment? How
do you know you have an attachment? And of course the final question is
how do you clear an attachment if you know you have one? An attachment
simply means, in this regard, simply means that there is a dark energetic
or a negative energetic that does not behoof your highest and best good that glomb's
on. We call it a hitchhiker. It will glomb on a hitchhike onto
your oric field to actually feed off of the energy, and so it can
be like literally like an attachment on that oric field. This is typical for
many of us. We can pick up attachments all the time, but nine
out at ten times they'll dissipate. Just like an EmPATH will pick up energy,
it will dissipate. Okay, if you're a general EmPATH, it'll just
dissipate within the days. That's what attachments normally do. But when we have
a situation like this young man, the darkness and his field was non existent.
The darkness was really pretty heavy duty and knew what it was doing,
and so it's a feeding of the energetic field, and so it will interpenetrate.
Now that's different than what we would call something like a full immersion or
a demonic possession or anything, because then it goes into the actual body.
So most attachments are just staying in the or field. Yeah, if they're
heavy ones. Most of the time we do need some assistance from some someonance
of a practitioner, or maybe you just need to do some serious meditating or
prayer, whatever works for you. But oftentimes an attachment is pretty easy for
an energetic practitioner to take care of. How do we know, though,
I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, thanks, yeah, yeah, how we
know? It is almost like a blanket we wear, almost like a heaviness.
It is a sadness. It can be changed in your appetite. It
can be a change in your actual you know, all of a sudden,
I feel like I'm want a cigarette and I don't even smoke. I feel
like something just isn't right. I feel heavy, I feel off. It's
a very distinct personality change, and depending on the severity of the attachment,
it can actually infuse into changing your Like I said, physical habits, emotional
habits, etc. But it is a definite change in the way that you
see, feel and experienced life. And it feels heavy. And these are
entities that are cleaning onto your uric field. Are these energetics that have no
purpose, not even you know, former human beings or what are we?
What levels of it can be all of the above. Actually, oftentimes when
we have I do a lot of teaching on ghosts and spirits. So a
spirit means that I've energetically crossed over. All of my chakras in my auric
fields are dissipated, but those that are earthbound are still attached to. Here
means that my energetics of my chakra system in some form and or my template
of my aura in some form is too heavy, hence I'm earthbound. These
are the ones that will normally feed so and it doesn't necessarily even need to
be something horrible and demonic. It can just be somebody that's hanging out in
the bar. I mean, I had a kid come home one night from
being in the bar down the block and he's tapping me on the shoulder at
midnight, going mom, Mom, I at somebody home, and I'm like,
does that mean like physically or what are you tell me? My God?
And he's like, no, no, I mean, you know,
like Rakeley. And I'm like, oh, for Heaven's sakes, you know,
And he did. He picked up the spirit right in the bar,
and he knew instantly that something was hanging on him. So thank god He's
got me for a mom right, So I wake up and clear the kid
in two seconds. I'm like, really, dude, as a therapist,
though, how often do you think this is happening with people, these spirits
and these energetics attaching negative forces onto to the I think it can happen really,
really quite often. And again, most of the time, our ability
to dissipate these happens very very quickly. So let's just play out. Oh,
I go off to a concert, you know, I'm in a room
with a gazillion people, you know, whooping it up. Half of them
are high, half of them are drinking. The spirits love that stuff,
right, and so they'll go, I'm on for a little bit of a
high ride, and then they'll just dissipate. So this stuff can happen super
easily. We can get it in the grocery store. We can get it,
you know out driving through a lamb? I literally, I think I
wrote in this book driving through just on a way to go somewhere, and
I drove through a wave of sad. We're not normally aware, but I'm
aware because I do this for work, and I like, drove through sad
and I stopped and I went, Okay, I just drove through sad.
And this is the discernment process that I break out in the book. What
is that? Who sad? Is that? Why am I sad? Is
that my sad? What do I want to do with that sad? Etc.
So it's being super present in the human form and in the oric field
to be able to discern it first and then break it down and then remove
it. You know, it's funny. I was just thinking we have and
I could be off on this. I think we have an autonomic system that
clears these if you're healthy, parchically healthy, I think there's an autonomic system
that clears these attachments. It just came up in my brain. I don't
know where it's. The physical form will readjust all day long, and if
you have some semblance of an alignment to your higher source, self. It
does do it automatically all day. It's when we're not here, when we're
not present, is when we're missing the boat, right, Yeah, But
I mean people who are not psychic, who are not aware of their higher
self, who are not aware of who they incarnated with, the unseen helpers,
the spirit friends, and things like that, they're all interacting, right,
whether we say so or not. I mean, you're highly sensitive.
But the people who are like numb to all of this or not tuned to
it probably don't realize that they can call and talk about asking for help.
Yeah, because I think they aren't necessarily aware of it. But every human
being is also going to be aware that, gosh, I feel really sad
right now or something, just feel sad? And if that's why this book
is for everybody in terms of every single person on this planet empaths to some
extent, and the training of literally just discernment of is this mine? Why
do I feel sad? Does this make any sense? In Suzanne's life?
Right now? That I'm sad? That simple step in and of itself starts
the ball rolling to be able to break things down and go, this is
not mine. So even if I don't do that, and like you said,
it's an energetic attachment that isn't too heavy duty, that will dissipate within
a day or so. So think how oftentimes people go, gosh, I
just had a really bad day, I had a really bad week, I
had a really bad couple of days. Well it might not have even been
yours, right, So what's so fascinating, However, in this book,
I think is when we get skilled and confident, we can start to understand.
Quite possibly I can figure out that I actually am sad because the ocean
is sad, and I'm feeling the ocean as an embodiment of source in and
of itself. That's fascinating. So this stuff can get really big when we
start to train ourselves talk about this. You made a really good point about
gaya. I think the Native Indigenous people had such a close connection because they
lived in off the land that they could feel gaya as an EmPATH. Talk
about that and why I think is a positive empathic trait that we should maybe
nurture more. Yeah, I mean it is. It's a beautiful thing to
nurture, and it is absolutely a gift. It is a it is a
birth right of being the human to be able to feel and connect. This
is why the negative agenda took the field center out of the human because if
we connect to the planet, we know that we're mother loved, right,
we know that we're safe, we know that we're part of oneness. So
any negative agenda that's been going on for eons to break down the human and
separate us, empathy brings us back together. The understands the oneness. Empathy
understands that I can feel what you feel. Therefore I would never want to
hurt you, and on and on it goes. So it's a beautiful,
wonderful gift if we would just learn how to do it without the ego attached.
And here I am looking at you, your wonderful wood cabin up in
the mountains of Minnesota, this beautiful wood background that you're sitting in. You're
being fed basically, right, Yeah, and recharge and talk about why it's
really critical for us to reconnect with nature. If we live in the city
over it, we don't have access to hikes and things like that. Talk
a little bit about the human biological connection with Gaya Guya itself. And people
are so funny because there I was like, oh, I felt so great
because I went on vacation, I got away from work. Well, you
also got into nature. Yeah, you know this is we picked this planet.
We picked this planet or we wouldn't be on it. We picked a
cooperative connection to a planetary embodiment, and it is important for us to validate
that and gratify that and actually ask, like you asked before, Ask for
Guya to help, Ask for the wind to fill you, ask for the
tree to ground you, because we need to connect in that conversation and ask
and then be grateful and gratitude. And your gratitude back is the feed or
the fill for Guya or Guy's embodiments like trees, rocks, and animals,
et cetera. So it's that exchange of that. But asking is important.
You know. I'm up here yesterday and wind is my favorite element. And
I have a very bunch of neighbors that have owned me for years and they
know what I do. And I invoke the wind up here all the time
because it's my biggest fuel. So I'll stand on the end of my dock
and I'm just like, right, and this ridiculous, you know, Yeah,
you're just like flu and they're yelling down the shoreline. Okay, enough
Susanne, Enough Susanne, because it's just like just insane, and I laugh
and I laugh, and I'm so grateful. I'm so grateful because the wind
plays and then the eagles come, and the joy of being one with the
wind and the eagles and the trees and just having that connection to nature.
And you can do that sitting in a condo in the middle of New York
City. You don't have to run to you know, northern Minnesota to do
that. We can do that by holding a rock. We can do it
in our mind. We can astraally do anything we choose to. But if
we have that beautiful opportunity, yeah, get out there and stick your feet
in the ground. You made a really good point, which is when you're
out there, asked for healing, you know, asked to connect. And
I when I go out, I try to hike a couple of days a
week or to get out to the local trails, and I'll act almost automatically,
kind of going I need to be regenerated, I need a healing whatever.
And I'll see an unusual redtail hawk fly by or an owl hoot at
me. I used to think what's he talking about? But all the signs
really for you, isn't it? Oh? For sure? And when you
finally really realize that you're not making that up, that this really is happening,
this is when it starts to get fun because then we get more courageous
than we actually invoked. Then we say, I really command and who I'm
commanding is not the eagle or the hawk. I'm commanding myself to allow that
eagle and hawk to connect with me. So people oftentimes are like, Susanne,
I can't command an angel. I can't command the win And I'm like,
yeah, you can, because they're part of you and we're part of
that. But who you're actually commanding is you to allow that to come in.
So I talk about an angel for a minute. When you're saying,
command an angel. So you're having a crisis, or you're having a moment
of disillusionment or whatever, you call in support in the form of what you
call an angel. It could be a higher guide or something like that.
What is that about? And what are we looking at when we're calling in
a helper? Well, and Angelica is specially needs to be asked again,
they are not in an embodiment that has the right to intervene on our free
will existence here unless invited and asked. So again, when I invoke or
when I command, I'm commanding Suzanne to reach out and have that connection,
be open to it and ask for that assistance, but more so to receive
it. So the command is really coming from me for me, but the
invocation is to them and of them. So and again, an angel is
not a human. Oftentimes we'll go, oh, Grandma died and she's my
angel, and that's adorable, and I think that's beautiful. But an angel
is an angelic is a being of God source energy that is different than the
human incarnation, and they are present here for that interaction, for that glue
in between the dimensional fields. That's their job. And so you know,
for us to honor that and ask for that, that's a beautiful connection.
But you know, it's funny because it's like, we use this term angel.
What's the difference between How can you tell the difference between an so called
angel energy against a spirit helper, against a soul script person or entity that
has been with you many lifetimes and is on this trip with you but not
physical. How do you tell in my opinion. And again take what resonates
on anything I say, but in my opinion and experience, it all has
to do with my training in my own vehicle, Okay, understanding my level
of resonance and frequency. So Suzanne's resonance and frequency will be able to go
up and down through the dimensional frequencies and go, oh that's an angelic.
Oh that's an actual arch angel versus even an angel because they feel different.
Oh, there is a galactic because that feels different. And so for me,
it's elements of electric frequency and or different connections. And so that's how
I work, and I will I will traverse all of those realms. I
mean, I can work with the fairies and the gnomes just as easy with
an off planet galactic, but they definitely feel different. So you were set
up as a young age though, I mean, you're talking about stuff that's
like so over my head. It's ridiculous because I don't feel in that.
I don't. It's also practice, Cliff, I mean, I literally had
I had to remember what I know too in order to get to this place.
You know. People are like, well, you get to do this
and this, and I'm like, yeah, but I'm also the one that's
staring at a tree for two and a half hours waiting for it to activate.
You know, Okay, come on, you know so yeah, I
love that. Um you you give an example. We're talking about EmPATH,
but you talk about what I mean, what is it empathing? What does
that mean? Empathing versus impath? Well, the EmPATH is the person.
The empathing is what I am doing. So it's the action. Okay,
yeah, it's the action. Yeah. And you know, it's sad to
me in that people right now, during this time period are using the word
EmPATH very kitchy. It seems to be like it does. Yeah, you
know, I have so many clients I'm an EmPATH and I'm like, oh
gosh, if you just really knew what that really meant, you would understand
how detrimental it can be. Now that's said, I'm a full EmPATH and
love being an EmPATH, but I'm very careful and very very disciplined in what
I do. So I love the fact that I can feel and feel and
feel, but I also am very very diligent about clearing those things and being
on top of it. So we're going to take a short commercial break to
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My guest today is author Susanne Worthy, who has written a new book
called Confident Impath, A Complete Guide to Multidimensional Empathing and Energetic Protection. This
is a look on our natural state as human beings on earth, this empathic
ability to connect with other people, and we're offering new technique and ways to
protect yourself from unwanted vibrations. Or you're a full blown therapist, Susanne.
I mean, like you're saying someone who says casually, oh, I'm an
impath, just like Flate, you know, and you're like, you don't
have a clue what you're saying. But let me tell you that is right.
Let me tell you how serious the training was. Do you remember we're
about the same age we deciphered. Would you remember the Magic School Bus series.
It was a television cartoon and it had books and movies. It was
all about Miss Frizzle was the science teacher and she'd take all the kids on
a bus and inevitably they'd end up inside of the human body, and you're
thinking about Ken Casey here in California, who went on the LSD bus from
Big Sur. I think I know this as a child's book series and cartoon
series to help understand like the digestive system or whatever. So the concept was,
let's just go in a school bus and you traverse the human body.
I would come to this very cabin in fact, years and years ago,
and I would lie on the floor here for hours and hours and hours,
and I'm not exaggerating that, playing the Magic school Bus, so that I
could envision each that bus going through and feeling what my eye steel, feeling
what my nose feels, seeing if there's an emotion, seeing if there's a
memory, seeing if there's a whatever. And I played Magic School Bus with
myself for many, many months and hours, so that then I was so
intimately connected with my Suzanne vehicle in physical, emotional, and mental and spiritual
frequencies and vibrations that would then if I would come across a cliff, I
would know instantly, Oh that's not mine, Oh that's Cliffs. And then
I became very adept at going Now I can actually merge with Cliff and be
Cliff because if I'm with you, even over you know, the internet,
I can tap into you and feel what you feel in two seconds. But
I don't want to stay there. I want to I want to have the
courtesy and the honor to pull back out of that. And I don't want
to do it without invitation because that's not ethical. So it's very there's ethical
lines that the confident, real professional EmPATH doesn't cross. You know. Yeah,
I think we've lost a lot. And what you're talking about is what
your true energy practitioning is a practitioner is all about. I think the Native
Indigenous people were trained to live like what you're talking about. I think most
of us are so numb to this with this language that this book, for
those of you listening, is going to be a way if you want to
take it to the next level of being a full blown EmPATH working with people.
I think this is a great program. But hey, what you're saying
to me, and I'm a y I was trained as a reiki practitioner years
ago and my ex wife and I my wife at the time, had a
practice and so I automatically automatically dials you into the person. So you're you're
going well, this person feels like they're having this problem and you can talk
about it, you know how it is. So anyhow, I want to
take this, this area of empathy and talk about the various levels you have
a general empathy, sensitive empathy, psychic empathy. Talk about each level and
how it's applied. Yeah, the gem not empathy EmPATH. So the general
EmPATH, that's okay. The general mpath is the majority of people that are
not open to this because again, the human meat and bone existence will have
an emanation of their aura, their field to be able to feel and connect
with things. That's the birthright of being a human body. So general empaths
mean, oh, I can really get overwhelmed at the grocery store or the
antique store, or I can go to the State fair and feel overwhelmed,
or the concert makes me sad, or I'm with my dying grandmother and I'm
sad. You know. That kind of a thing. Is the general EmPATH,
and most often that will dissipate in a very quick amount of time.
The sensitive EmPATH is a step up. These are the ones that are starting
to go, oh my goodness, I'm sitting here with grandma and I really
feel Grandma's pain as she's going through this dying. I really feel, you
know, if she's got lung cancer. My lungs are heavy. I feel
that stuff. And then the psychic sensitive EmPATH takes it up a step or
five and says, oh, I not only feel Grandma's you know, heaviness
in her lungs, but I know psychically she's had this same thing happened in
three past life and this is her feel you know, this is her ending
of this karmic cycle or whatever. So you keep opening things up. Wow,
yeah, why do we want to be empathic? Why why you talked
at the very beginning about this is a human natural human? Yeah, the
birthright, meaning we're all dialed into it. It's part of our psyche,
it's part of our unconscious whatever. But why do we want to improve it?
Why do we want to have this tool. Let's use exact I'm from
Minnesota, like you said, let's use even our George Floyd's situation. Think
of the sadness and the pain that happened all through that time period. And
then now we got the you know, now I've got the protests, and
I've got the people being angry, and I've got everyone doing you know,
violent things, and this that and the other, right, And so what
I want to do is I want to know that you're a human. I
want to know that you're scared as I am. I want to know that
you're getting sucked into a high mind right now and you're really unsure. I
want to be able to have a common ground with you, so that there's
oneness that I can respect and honor you, not just hate you for a
belief system. So we start to work deeper into the belief systems. And
this is where everything starts. By the way, the very first chapters of
the books is absolutely going into belief systems, because this is what creates the
foundation of how we create our reality, right, And so oneness starts to
ascend or go above a belief system because you're a human, I can feel
your pain. I don't want to hurt you. I want to understand you,
I want to negotiate or whatever. So it's that oneness, and I
think that's what we lack. That's why everyone's walking around like a zombie.
Right. Yeah, I like that. But I also would like you to
talk a little bit about using empathic ability to improve your life in other words,
can you use it in a business situation where you're going in and you're
meeting somebody and you want to dial into who they are so that perhaps you
have a better interview, or that you have a better business relationship because you're
unsure about who this person is and so on, Very very much and and
funny enough, you know, I was a corporate executive for thirty eight years
and didn't realize how much I was doing it without knowing I was doing it
until later when I knew what I was doing. If that all made sense,
But what the EmPATH can do for examples, they can deescalate. We
have a really crappy boss. Let's say that is very very demeaning to me
and makes me feel bad. When I start to understand this whole concept,
Hey, I go into my own belief systems. I feel bad because he
or she is saying cruel things to me or making me feel lesser. It's
my job to go into my learned belief systems and upgrade that feeling of self
love. I'm the one that's already on an unstable ground if I'm allowing someone
to make me feel bad, because in essence, they can't I allow that
bad feeling because it's a trigger inside of me. So now I take my
responsibility back and I take my power back. The EmPATH game is all about
control and victim programming, And if I'm feeling victimized, it's because I'm actually
wanting control. So when I feel someone's controlling me, it's actually because I'm
feeling victimized. And it's just a game. And when we get really tired
of these games, I can in corporate world or business world, or even
the guy at the taco bell that is crappy to me and doesn't give me
my change and doesn't give me my sauce, you know, and I'm mad.
I mean all that is as Wow, he's having a bad day.
That has nothing to do with that. I deserve respect or not. Okay,
thank you for bringing that up because you mentioned and this in the book
where you had to drive in. Yeah, and the guy didn't give you
the sauce and you give you the wrong order. Yeah, how it perpetuated
the domino effect. The best of your day is screwed, yes, because
you're like, God, damn him, and he didn't even respect me enough
to give me my damn sauce. And so yeah, I talk about the
energetics behind negativity on that. I like that example that you gave. I
used that one in teaching for years because it was so fascinating me. I
was so pissed. And by the time I got down the highway, then
everybody's cutting me off and I'm swearing at them. And I finally go into
the Best Buy and I just read this little kid behind the counter for no
reason, and I caught myself and I'm like, oh my god, I
let my sense of non worth escalate for blocks and blocks in an hour of
my day because some guy probably had a shitty day. I mean, that's
just not the way that we should be doing things. I could have and
now know better to go. No, I have respect, I am worth
respect. If he doesn't see that, that's his deal, not mine.
And I could have cut that off and saved myself an hour and a half
of misery. And I could have been nicer did the little dude at best
Buy? And I didn't cut off by people with you know, flipping them
off. It's just it's silly how we act and we react because we are
we're on these treadmills of interacting with energy. That isn't anything to do with
triggers. I mean, it's everything to do with triggers. It isn't anything
to do with the truth. And so this is all about power, you
know, and everyone doesn't realize how empowered we really are. Yeah, and
we are imprisoned because of our belief systems. And once we change all of
that clip, everything changes. Yeah, life is super easy, right,
So what you're saying is it's important when you have a bad experience to cut
it off, release it as soon as possible, or it's going to hang
on you and who knows what else is going to happen. And more so,
before you cut it off and release it, stop, go to neutral,
reassess what really just happened, and where's the anchor inside of me?
Because it wouldn't be triggering if I didn't have an anchor. So the ultimate
goal is to find the anchor. Yeah, I like that. And there's
three anchors. Can I get three anchors? I'm either not feeling safe,
I'm not feeling I'm enough, and these both feed into the middle of self
love and word. So I'm not safe, I'm not enough, or I'm
not having any word And those three are the trinity of the problem of anchors,
and once we get beyond that, we're like, oh, well he
just really really rebbed up or triggered my sense of worth. Well, I
do have worth. It's not going to depend on the kid and Taco bell
to make me worth or not worth. That's my job, right, Yeah,
totally talk a little bit about the male, the male side of feeling.
When we're talking right now about empathy, it's feeling and a lot of
men are like, well, what are you talking about. I'm not going
to get into that. That's a feminine that's a woman's way. Talk about
the importance of male male female dynamics, and perhaps you know, just the
energetics. We shouldn't even use female or male. It's not nestally sex.
It's more understanding the vibe. Yep, it actually is an energetic So it
is the law of gender. So we have universal laws and how we create
and how we live, and every human being, no matter what sex,
body sex you're sitting in, male or female, has male energy on the
right hand side, female on the left of your humanness, and so we
are all created in both genders in terms of energy. The sad part is
is you're saying men don't feel. Women don't either because the field center.
The field center was taken away from us. The field center is part of
this negative agenda for eons that says, if you feel, then I can't
control you. If you think, I can control you, and I can
tell you how to act because I tell you how to think. But if
you think and then you feel, you can discern and go, wait,
that doesn't make sense. I feel something different than I think you're thinking,
and therefore I act accordingly. So this whole feel thing of being an EmPATH
is so crucial right now because in the reality structure, we have been taken
offline in our feel center on purpose, so that we've been mind controlled.
You know, this is what we're telling you on the news. This is
how you should act. Now, this is what we're telling you on the
news. And you stand there and you go, yeah, A cliff doesn't
believe that because my body doesn't feel that. Oh, hence I have sovereignty
and freedom I act different. We're being manipulated, is what you're seeing.
Yeah, yeah, and have been for EANs. But now that frequency of
feel center, which by the way, is the mother God frequency, the
motive is the mother god frequency. The father got his thought, mother got
his emotion, child got his action. So when this came back online about
three or four years ago, we're starting to go, oh, the body's
waking up. So that's why this book is perfect timing in terms of it
doesn't matter if we're sitting in a male or female body, all been dummied
down in the field center. Yeah, yeah, thank you for that.
I wanted to just get that across because a lot of guys are listening going,
I'll never use it and all this, you know, and they're always
wondering, what's the voice in the back of my head? Talk? What
the hell is that all about? I think so powerful. I mean,
just practice, look at the news, listen to what they're saying, and
then feel your body and you're like, nope, that isn't even true,
you know, So it's powerful. Get in get in touch with your body.
Talk a little bit about the energetics of chakras, because a lot of
people are like, well, what's what I mean, you're chakra? But
they're extremely important. They're ancient there they show up an ancient Chinese and Hindu
manuals and techs. So they've been known about since really the beginning, right.
So a chakra is not anatomical that means I don't have a thing.
It's a force of movement in different parts of my energy body. And I
really depict them quite extensively in my first book. Yet that Energy Healer's Book
of Dying is very important to understand because they activate in birth, they deactivate
in depth. We actually die via the chakra system. So it's a really
fascinating read in that regard. But in context of this, they're like little
energy centers throughout our entire blueprint or our structure of our energy body. So
it's like the gasoline center connection. So when I wrote this book, your
body is akin to a vehicle of God source. A vehicle needs gas.
That chakra system is the whole. When you go into the gas station,
you put that little thing in and you squeeze the gas into that little hole.
That's what the chakras do for our life force, to give us our
gasoline to connect. And then the tank is your uric field, which is
created because the chakras bring in that gas or that life force energy, and
then the aura templates it and templates it and templates it over and over again,
much like a jawbreaker with different layers. Okay, so they all work
together, the vehicle, the gas, and the tank. So that is
the human body, the chakra system and consciousness and the oric field. We
could talk chakras for hours. Yeah, how do we use the chas as
an impath? I think what is important as an EmPATH? When I'm a
practitioner, for example, I am constantly tapping into the chakra because the chakra
holds consciousness which has a different message or different infermation per the body. So
like the throat chakras, can I communicate? Can I hold my truth?
So if that client is holding something, here me as a practitioner is looking
for what's the underlying trigger that they can't hold their truth? Okay? But
in physical form now I can't swallow my neckherds. So these are it's a
map of the body. It is a fascinating read and study. Wheels of
Life is a very old book but probably one of the best still on the
marials of life. Wheels of Life, Yeah, and it's a real book
on the chakras, but it shows the consciousness behind it, which is the
map of what is happening in that chakra, because each chakra is bringing in
life force energy that has different information, and different information will program the body
accordingly or not. So they're very actually, very vital parts to our existence.
And again I haven't heard before, but I mean I've kind of been
aware that chakras are extremely important. We just don't have a decode for it.
But it sounds like Wheels of Life kind of decodes all that. Oh
my gosh, and so easy because the I mean me as an mpath,
I'll tap into your hips and you know, your root chakra will hold your
mother information on the left, your father information on the right. If it's
anger and pulls back on the right hand side of your body, your hip
has got a sciatico pulling back. And so I mean, I know instantly
you're pretty much your whole deal. You know, just by reading your body.
It's almost like there should be a machine that you walk into and it
tells you, Okay, this chakra is off, and so this is why
you have upset stuff make it. I love that. I love that it
should. I wish there was a machine, but we are the machine.
We are the machine. I was in a doctor's office with my mother the
other day, who's eighty nine years old, and she's having eye trouble,
and I blurted out to this doctor. She was really struggling, you know,
getting information and figuring my mom out, and I finally just blurted out,
I go, look her left hand eye. Her left hand eye is
doing this and this and this and this, and this woman's looking at me
and she's like, what are you talking about? And I go, well,
I'm kind of an EmPATH. Okay, here's the yeah. And she
looked at me like I was crazy at first, but then sure enough she
went back in and figured out my mom had almost like a cold sore infection
viral on the backside of her cornia that she wasn't even aware of her looking
for until I gave her all of those symptoms. Wow. And so my
mother, being eighty nine, was just kind of letting it go because she
just thought she was old. And I'm like, no, something is off
specifically right here, because I can feel it now. Just think if we
were all trained that way, we would sit in our medical appointments going,
no, you're missing something. Well, can I just ask you real quickly,
what's your feeling of allopathy as a healing tool, allopathy and MD medicine's
draws just right, you mean western medicine. Oh well, um, you
know, I believe that there is a place for it. I believe even
more so in second guessing it. I believe in second guessing it it's a
helpful tool when you're in trauma or you're having issues. But I don't know
it's a blend. Let's just leave it at that. They're still not into
healing energy. It's like if they've just dialed into that a little bit,
they would be so far ahead of the game. That's another ten hour talk
right exactly. I want you to talk a little bit about and this is
a really important topic discernment. Yes, and you have a whole section on
it, because as an impact you need to have discernment on what you're picking
up, how to analyze it, and how to react to it. So
talk about it, talk about it. So discernment starts with the belief system
is what's running your narrative inside of your existence. But that tank, that
or bubble or tank that is around you is your discernment tool. So if
I walk into something, let's go back to that story. When I was
driving off to a class, and I drove through sadness. If I drove
through sadness being trained, I go, oh, I just drove through sadness.
Then the first question is is that my sadness? No, it's not,
or yes it is. Is that my sadness? Now? What is
that? So it's the breaking down and understanding the information. So the discernment
is the foundational kind of like exercise of making sense of the energy and then
knowing what to do with it by choice. So I break it down.
Is that my sad No, it's not. What does that feel like?
Does it feel like? What? And then I, being psychic, got
the whole story of what it was. But even if you're not psychic,
I can at least break down, Oh gosh, I feel sad right now?
Does Cliff have a reason for really being sad right now? Because here's
the deal. If Cliff doesn't understand that there's no reason for him being sad
right now and that it probably isn't his to own, Cliff will make himself
sad about something within the next day, because that's what the human mind wants
to own, right So why make your relationship sad or your job sad or
your dog sad or whatever it isn't your life be sad or whatever? Was
that in the first place. So this is a tool that each of us
can learn from. Now let's extend it further. We've got a lot of
crap on our media twenty four to seven. If I stand in front of
something on the news and I'm being pummeled with fear marketing and fear programming,
I can stand there and say, is this my truth right now in Suzanne's
world? And I can determine my feeling of safe enough and worth right.
These are the anchors. So I'm in charge and empowered in my life.
This is why in discernment is critical. Oh, I like that. Do
you think that this empathy and being an EmPATH was more a natural cultivated part
of humanity in the earlier civilizations like say Egyptians and Maya? Yes, most
definitely talk about that because I think we and you highlight this in the book.
I think that that we had this gift and it's it's squelched and suppressed.
And I think that earlier civilizations may have even had schools or how to
bring it out and things like that. They did, they had what's called
the ancient mystery schools and let's go to the indigenous. Even a movie like
I remember when the first Avatar movie came out and I went to it with
my family. My kids were quite small back then, and I did the
oddest thing. I got in kind of a tussle with my family, which
was really weird, and I ended up saying I don't want to sit with
you. I'm going to sit in front of you, which was the weirdest
thing ever. I would never do that, And from a higher perspective,
it was because my inner being needed to really understand that movie, right,
And I really really sat with that movie because it shows how much connection and
oneness there is. Remember how they plug into the animal, they plug into
the tree, they plug into knowing everything, they honor the kill, they
do everything in oneness. And I was so studying that movie that I didn't
understand why I was pissed at my family when I really wasn't. It was
just about this, and it's funny how the human body will do that,
right, And that's the perfect example of the honor of the connection to the
gay a body. We've lost all of that, and that was purposefully taken
away in terms of a negative agenda. The human did decide there was a
turning point pre Egyptian Samerian time period when the human went, we want to
be in charge of everything. That's when the ego came in and then it
really took a leap and then we really got cut off. So we did
create this ourselves, but many star sees are back to re organize that and
to reactivate that and to reput that hologram back online so that everything is working
in oneness. That's what this ascension process is about. Do you think that
in the previous epic that we had more connection with the divine in terms of
the god goddess energies. I mean these are heavy duty energies. Definitely,
you were able to hold that frequency. And this is where these amazing buildings
like the pyramids and the temples and things like that. And not only the
pyramid in the temple, but let's think of the lay lines underneath and the
communication tools with the lay lines within the Earth that then connected to the cosmos.
So not only were reconnected to Guyet, we were connected off planet and
multiverses. We were connected to everything. And so this is this is so
important for us to know because star sees are back here on Earth not only
to activate human beings in their field centers, but to activate the actual planet
itself, to reconnect that online circuitry so that we are all one again.
That's what this is about, Okay, So let's jump into that real quickly.
Our government has been covering up these visitors for decades. If they are
a thousand, five thousand, and a million years in advance of us,
they're right, They're vibrating into very high frequency. I think one of the
problems that I have decoded is the fact that when you're in face to face
with a million year old being, their energy level is much higher, which
could be dangerous for us, but only that we may freak out around somebody
like that, What do you say? And I totally agree with that,
And me, I mean, like I said, I'm doing my best now
to decipher this new book that I'm I'm I'm not hesitating, but I'm kind
of being careful with how much I want to say. I go off planet
all the time, and I work with beings off planet and on ship all
the time, and so I am very comfortable with like beings Reptilian's, DraCos,
all of those. I've seen many, many, many kinds of beings.
That said, if one walks through that kitchen door right now in my
cabin, you think I'm not going to be sure, I like, yeah,
And I mean if I would outside and really see Bigfoot for real,
holy crap, right. So. But but on the other hand, I
think that there then would be after the startle. I think that there would
be that inner knowing and that telepathic connection. Again, but most of these
beings cannot come into our frequency. They don't have the capacity. They would
implode just like we would implode in there's it's it's a frequency difference. And
so again, this is why I think it's so important to understand what you
want to find out of your own soul is up to you. If you
want to cultivate your psychic skills, to be able to astral travel, to
be able to dream, stay lucid, dream go find them in guidance,
etc. That's all individual choice. Not everybody wants to do that, right.
Yeah, so many people down here are asleep to the facts. So
yeah, it will be. There will be a day when something happens,
whether it's a false flag thing that's happening or a real thing. It will
stun most of this planet species because we're not used to that. And I
think that's sad. I think that's really sad because there was a time when
that was normal. The book's Confident Impath a Complete Guide to Multidimensional Impathing and
Energetic Protection. My guest has been Suzanne Worthily talk a little bit about the
Akashic Records. We've had a number of people on the program who talk about
the importance of the Akashic Records. And for those of you who don't know
what that is, most of you should know who have been listening. It's
kind of a cloud database of everything that's happened or during and after. They
say, people like Tesla tapped into it, pulled through machines, um egger
Casey. My question to you is do you have a sense of it at
all? Because it's like I I meditated every day. I've been meditated since
I was like twenty, you know, and it's like better than I am
because I don't do it every day. That's awesome. Well, I have
to do it because it's kind of helps me my nervous system. Yeah,
but when when we say Akashic records. To me, it's like you have
to sense it outside of the physical, which for a lot of people it's
a challenge. But talk about your connection and your understanding of this database.
And again this is my perspective. First of all, there's so many layers
to the akash because we have Akashic records for everything. So every every embodiment
has its own Akashic right, their own kashak records. As a human,
I have akashak records. As a planet, the Earth has its akash as
a you know, a universe, there's in the kash as a multiverse,
there's in the co So it just keeps going and going and going. And
I oftentimes see it like you know the books behind you. There's a library,
and then there's a bigger library, and then there's a bigger library,
and then there's a bigger library. Right, So in my opinion, the
true akash which is the biggest library of all where all the books then go
to. In my opinion, a lot of times I just see that as
God as source, because there isn't a guy floating on a cloud of address
in a book. It literally is the culmination of all the books of all
the experiences, of all the all the all that there is and ever was
and could be. And so in terms of the design intelligence of God's source,
I oftentimes see that as the AKSh. Now when we break it down
to try to get to it, to access it, most oftentimes people will
envision it like a Greek building or Roman building because there's pillars. Those pillars
come because the pillars are actually locking in the light as a thought process into
the grid patterns of creational reality, so that contain information, and then I
can go into that containment vehicle so it can be contained and contained and contained,
if that makes some sense. So that did you follow that? I
kind of got that. But it's like as a writer and somebody who wants
to look at the past because we have no history books, and it's almost
like using intuition in a way, but it's creative visualization. I can creatively
visualize it pillared and secured so that I can go in and get the information.
It's just a process that the human brain does to be able to access
the akash a little bit easier. You don't have to do it that way,
but that's usually typically how people see it. Then I can break down
that building even more. I can walk up the steps, I can see
the books. I can take out a book, I can open the book.
That isn't really what's happening. You're just doing that in your mind's eye
to be able to actually control the so called energy into a space and a
place where you can focus. But how do you read or collect data when
you're in that area, in that field of Akashi records? Yeah, I
don't do any of that that I just said. I don't do library.
I don't see the pillars. I don't see anything. I just download.
I just merge into it. Again. It's kind of an unpathed thing.
I'll just merge into the concept. So if I'm getting information on somebody's past
life, I'm already merged into their field and their psyche and their soul area,
and it just comes to me. I don't do that going and finding
man. When we think of somebody like Tesla, he would bring in machines.
Yeah, and his brain was tuned and very advancing. When he would
assemble the machine in his head, yes, and then disassemble it. Yeah.
Then he would assemble it again, and then if he wanted to,
he would bring it out into three dimensions. So what he's doing, in
my opinion, is he's downloading it into the actual crown chakra that comes into
the physicality of our body. So he's getting what we call a download.
And I used to actually do that when I was a corporate executive. I
did these international trade shows, and I would do my trade show in my
head at night, and I would have sixty plus events and all the speakers
and all of the chauffler and I would design the whole thing, and I
would wake up in the morning and I'd know the whole show. And so
I never had to even have a piece of paper to run the show because
it was all in here. So it's a telepathy kind of a process where
we get the download, then we can bring it into reality because we go
through that chakra system. We bring it from thought into creational mechanics, into
color and sound and vibration and reality, etc. Again, the chakras are
important. That's how we move the energy and make it real in three D,
right, And so that's the process of the download. And most everything
I've learned I've got through downloads. I do study books, I study a
lot of things, but mostly I get it that way. Yeah, give
us some advice for those who want to get the book. Confident impact who
should be getting this book general public or somebody who really wants to become a
therapist. I think absolutely both, and that's why I wrote it the way
that I did it, because that's my client base. My client base is
the general public that comes in because I'm the worrior. I worry about my
kids. I can't, I don't have enough time in the day. I'm
I go, well, you know, that's my general client. And then
I also work with the practitioners that want to up their games. So there's
a specific part in the book for practitioners to up their game in terms of
being a professional, actual practicum in terms of empaththing. But general public,
every single body walking on this planet is empathing to some extent, and the
level of fear out there right now is escalated so much that I believe that
this is a mainstream book. And then if you choose to take it further,
take it further. I have a wonderful, beautiful client who set me
a picture and it was all My book was completely doggeared and tapped and color
coded, and she's like, I use this every single day now as my
meditative practicum. She goes, I pick one element every day after I read
it twice, I pick one element a day, so you can do anything
you want with it. Now, you you you consider yourself an energy practitioner.
But somebody who dials into your book and wants you use it as a
healing or therapeutic tool, what would be their title? Oh my goodness.
Even the testimonials will show you that there's a massage therapist, there is a
chi, it supports other therapists, and the actual therapist on there was so
cute because she says everyone should have this in their office when they're a therapist,
you know, So I think it's everybody cool, all right? How
can people learn more about you? What's your website? Pretty easy? It's
just my name, so it's s Worthly so it's swrt l ey dot com.
And the book is on there, as is my other book and or
and or if you just put it in my name or the books, it
pops up on Amazon, Barnes and Noble. You have a YouTube channel or
what's going on? I do. We have a YouTube channel which has a
lot of training videos. There's an excellent actual video on this actual book right
on there for free. We have a podcast ourselves called Energy Unleashed where my
partner Kim and I talk about a lot of this stuff. But yeah,
there's lots and lots of information. Basically most all of it is free,
right perfect. Hey, what's been a real pleasure having you on the program.
Oh my gosh, Ryan, it is so fun to me too.
You're delightful. I really appreciate. I appreciate the opportunity. This book just
came out, my friends, go out and get it and continue success.
Thank you. I'll call you for the next book. Hey, this is
Cliff Dunning and Ed Barnhart inviting you to join us November tenth to the seventeenth
as we visit and explore Mexico. This is your opportunity to come and join
us for a week of exploration, fun and sites that you will not typically
go. What's unique about Polenki Ed Polenk is a beautiful site, but what
people normally see is just a fraction. I know where all the hidden temples
are out there in the jungle, and I'm going to bring us there.
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myself for one week of fun, adventure and exploration. I was thinking when
we concluded the interview that some of the problems with being empathic or showing empathy
is the fact that we are deluged with unseen vibrations. We got the cellular
phones that bombard us. We have the Internet, We're looking at the Internet
constantly, We're looking at our phones. We have streaming media in the form
of television, cable. We're always looking for stimulation. And I think we're
overstimulated. And there's been a number of reports in the last few years that
this overstimulation can cause neurological disorders. It can rob us of our natural inclination
to perceive, and I believe now that they're also saying that it affects cognition.
And this is a huge issue because we are being overwhelmed with cognitive problems
like dementia, Alzheimer's, and these are degenerative conditions that are ascerbrate exacerbated with
overstimulation. And so this is something to consider. And I, by the
way, so it's really important that we reduce our dependency on staring at the
phone, and I am at the top of the list, and my dependency
on my phone is huge. I mean, just before I go to sleep
at night, I'm looking looking at TikTok, my notes, my team's what
they're saying to me. I need to cut it off. And I think
it's important that we practice good digital streaming media behavior, which is have a
cutoff time. You know, say, as an example, give your brain
a rest after say six o'clock or just before dinner. I'll say, Okay,
I'm gonna look at my phone just before dinner. I'm gonna have my
dinner and then that's it. Now. Obviously, if you're waiting for someone
to call, that's a different story. If your phone rings and it's an
important person, you got to take that call. But in many cases,
and like I said, I'm also talking about my situation, my life.
I get a lot of calls. I'm going to try just letting them go
and picking them up and reacting next morning. We're overstimulated. And this is
huge when it comes to empathy. I think it blocks us. And you
know, we all have a tendency to be very sensitive. And I think
this also affects our psychic ability. And we talk briefly about the Akashic records.
Now she looks at it from a different perspective, but everybody accesses it
in a different way. I and this really came down on to me as
an important message. You know, your creativity is critical when you go to
work, and you need to be you know, quickly answers. You need
to be cognitive of what's going on with you, your work role, your
workload, the people in your work, family, your home people, your
relationships. You need to be available to them. And you can't be available
if you are looking at your phone, looking at the internet, watching TV
all hours of the of the day and night. So that doesn't you know,
watching TV if you're working, obviously that's not gonna be you. But
you know, I know people who are retired, they're they plug in front
of the TV and watch TV for eight to nine hours or more. That's
just not good. That's just not good. You don't give your brain a
rest. So and again I'm guilty as charged on a lot of these statements
I'm making right now. So anyhow, we're gonna have Susanne back. I
really enjoy that interview. She's a lot of fun. Get her book.
It's really packed. Confident Impact. It just came out and we're going to
come out May so it's only been out for a couple of months, and
she's got really, really good examples. She's got a lot of case studies
of people who are before and after the techniques who had life changing events because
they were able to be empathetic. And it's really it's really a gift that
we are born with, but we don't use it enough. You really don't
use it enough. So Confident Impact that was fun. Hey, as you
heard in the beginning of the program, we're gonna be in Mexico in November.
This is a one week tour with doctor ed Barnhardt. We meet in
Villa Hermosa, Mexico, Central Mexico, that is the site of the Old
mec and we're gonna be at Leventa, which is one of the old cities
over three thousand years old. But it's not really typical like Maya. It's
more like mud, mud pyramids, mud structures. What is of really amazing
viewing is the megalithic monuments, the altars, the statues, the huge multi
ton doors and standing stones, they're they're typically called steely or steela, and
they're standing stones as markers. These things are monstrosities. I have not seen
this. I'm looking forward to it. So come on and join me November
tenth to the seventeenth. For more information, go to Earth Ancients dot com
forward slash Tours. You'll see the banner click on it. We're almost full.
We only got space for a few more people. Come on down and
join us. You're gonna have a blast. Now. Olmec Land is just
part of it. We take a bus after two days, after a day
and Lavina and we drive straight to Polin Gate. This is the jewel of
the Maya world. And there's a civic area that they've excavated and we're gonna
see that. But the next day, day two ends, it's gonna take
us on a private tour. He surveyed and excavated that whole area. So
get your hiking boots on, get your climbing shoes if that's what you're wearing,
because we're gonna be hanging out and climbing and we're gonna see areas that
no one gets to see. And that's a real pleasure because that's amazing He's
talking about pyramids, temples, and buildings and waterways that no one gets to
see. So come out see us. This is the Ancient Maya of Tabasco
and Chiapis November tenth through the seventeenth. Get the full itinerary and more information
at Earth Ancients dot com, forward slash Tours T O U R S.
All right, that's it for this program. I want to thank my guest
today, Suzanne Worthily, and she was coming to us from Minnesota. The
book is Confident EmPATH as always the team of Ruth Thomas, Mark Foster and
our new social media manager Chris Hazel. You guys rock and I appreciate it.
All right, take care of you well and we will talk to you
next time. I SA