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Hi, guys. Myself was reading
some of the texas that come to me

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and I read them, and there's
a lot of people asking me about Patsy

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Conti, if there's a Patsy Conti
story, So I thought I would tell

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one that I know. Patsy Conti
was a captain in the Gambino family.

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In his true most of them were
guys from Sicily, from Italy, off

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the boat type of people. We
would call them the grease balls, but

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that's what they were, and they
were under him in that crew. And

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he was a very wealthy, very
powerful guy. At one point he owned

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or he was one of the major
players in key food stores. There were

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big supermarkets in New York. I
don't know if they still around. I

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think he owned eighteen or nineteen of
them. He would give Paul Castellano a

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fucking car for Christmas. A lot
of guys will get annoyed because, I

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mean, how do you compare with
the gift the guy comes in, he

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gives you a fucking Mercedes Benz and
you're gonna come in with a small little

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envelope or something. I mean,
you know it's but that's what happened.

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A lot of people knew that he
was also in the drug business in Italy.

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That's Sicilian mafia. It's literally okay, it's not against their rules to

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deal heroin to the United States.
An old guy who was in Patsy County's

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crew, I found out later was
the guy where this heroin was sent to

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him. They had pizza eas in
different states in the United States and it

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would come in as pizza sauce in
these big cans. They'd opened those cans

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and there was a big of heroin
in there, and then they would call

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people in New York. People would
go down, pick it up, bring

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it in, and they'd get rid
of this stuff. Word had it that

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Patsy County would give a package of
money every once in a while to the

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boss, and I mean a satchel
of money cash, and we talked about

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it a little bit. John Gotti
talked about it before the Castellano hit.

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Frank Nachico myself. Rumor goes around, no proof of it, but rumor

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had it. I don't know if
he was bringing in a package of cash.

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There's big from Key Foods, but
that's possible too. After the Castellano

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hit and we took over, drugs
were against our rules. That's why John

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Gotti and everybody was in trouble.
And when we took over, we wanted

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to keep that room in place.
We weren't about to kill somebody. If

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they did something with drugs or color, you're not allowed to take it,

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but they're not even allowed to deal
it or be part of it in any

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way. And that's what had John
in trouble. That's what actually caused a

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lot of investigation, indictments, and
the downfall of Podcastler. That was one

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of the major reasons for it happened. So we took over. This was

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after now Frankie Chico was killed.
He was underbuss. It was me and

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John Gotti against the world. To
replace Franki Nachico, we put in a

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guy, an old time captain named
Joe Piney. This guy originally was arrested

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for the pizza connection case from heroin
coming in from France to the United States

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to his crew. They got arrested
for it. The whole family was shaking

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that Paul just got killed. Four
months later, Frankie n Chico is killed.

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Looks like the war is breaking out
and getting real serious. Everybody's getting

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jittery. So John told me,
I'm gonna put Piney in as the underbuster,

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replace Frankie. But it's me and
you running the family because all the

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old times know him, they trust
him. He's a kind old man.

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It'll settle everything down, I said. I agree. I agree. That's

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a good strategy. He said,
But it's me and you, Sammy.

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There's a bunch of stories with me
and Angelo and Joe Piney, and there's

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a bunch of stories with that.
But I'll get to that at another time.

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John calls me one day and Kati
had come down to the club and

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we were running the family, and
he says, go grab him and the

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old guy with the white hair.
That was the guy who brought the arrow

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with it. So he says,
we're not allowing drugs, even though John's

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whole fucking crew was in drugs,
and that's another whole story. But tell

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them what they were doing while Paul
was alive. They're not doing with us,

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with me, meaning John, give
them a nod, tell them to

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continue what was going on and bring
him the packages. You want me too,

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okay, a heroin dealing. I
want you to give him the message

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and if anything backfire is I could
blame you say. It wasn't me,

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was Sammy. I made him stop. You're not gonna get right, But

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I have some way out of it
that it's not me doing it, it's

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you. I get it, okay. So I said, listen, I

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was in the club. I went
over to Patchy Cotte said, listen,

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I need to talk to you outside. Let's take a walk. So the

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old man was sitting with him with
the white hair was sitting with him too.

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I said, you too, get
up, come outside with me.

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So the two of them walked outside
with me and we took a walk around

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the block and I said, we
know what you were doing with Paul,

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the money that you were bringing in. We know what you were doing.

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What do you mean, Sammy?
You were bringing in packages of money,

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That's what the fuck I mean.
You were bringing it to him, but

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you're not bringing it to John.
Why no, No, Sammy, I

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know what people think. We don't
do that. All right. We're gonna

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investigate if you did it, and
you're lying to us, not because you

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did it, not because you're going
to continue doing it, but for lying

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to me. And I'll bring that
line back to John. I think you're

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gonna get killed for that. Life. The old man who was a made

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guy but not a captain, and
he said, could I say something?

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He said it to Patsy Conty.
Patsy says, go ahead, and he

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says, I'm the guy who brings
it it. And we did make packages

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of money that went up, but
we stopped at the end when he got

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in trouble because of John and Andrew
with Girio's tapes, and we were told

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never to do it again. And
you listened. Yes, I respect that.

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I respect that you're being honest.
Here's what I'm telling you. Continue

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doing what you were doing. I
don't want to know about it. I

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don't want to talk about it.
I'm not going to put up money for

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it. I want you to come
with that package of money to me.

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Now, Patrick Conti butts in and
says, what about John. Don't worry

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about John. Bring it to me. If you have a problem from the

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Commission or anyone, it's not John. You didn't give him a diamond.

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You gave it to me. That's
my problem. Your problem is to not

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talk to John, don't ever bring
it up, and don't bring him the

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money. Bring it to me.
You're out is me. Your problem is

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me if you don't do the right
thing and you don't tell the truth,

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you're man. It's free and clear. He was honest. You started this

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conversation with a life. But I
don't have a good memory. I forgot

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that lie already. I never heard
what you said. You're just going to

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bring me money? Are we good? Absolutely grabbed my hand with both of

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his hands and kissed me on both
of my cheeks. Grease ball, SI,

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I get it, said, I
understand the old man, same thing.

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Thank you so much? Good?
So we go back. Did this

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conversation I shouldn't happen? Or was
I how a dream? I don't think

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I had this dream, but I
did say I have a little memory of

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this, But I don't think I
remember this dream. Patsy Corti's got a

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smile from here there. The old
man, Sammy, John picked someone in

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you. He made a great pick. What about Joe Piney and everybody else?

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I turned around. Do you see
Joe Piney? No? Then,

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what do you mean? What about
Joe Piney? He's not in this conversation,

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is he know? I think he's
a nice man. I think he's

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a good man. I think he's
loyal to John he's over me, but

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I think he's loyal to me too. Do you want to talk more about

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Joe Pining? No? No,
we understand, Okay, good, we

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love. One package came down a
couple of weeks later. It wasn't I

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don't think it was as big as
Paul's package. I think they did walk

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away. Then I think they started
again. It was a smaller package.

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He gave it to me. I
have no idea till today how much was

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in it. I know there was
money in it, but I have no

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idea how much was smaller? And
I gave it to John. He never

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told me what was in it.
I never asked who was none of my

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business. He actually did me a
favor. I was very uncomfortable in the

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middle of a heroine situation, but
I convinced myself the only thing it would

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be is me getting a package occasionally
and giving it to John. Mentally,

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I am saying to myself, I'm
not in the drug business. Legally,

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I think the law would have a
different idea of that. But at that

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point in my life, I didn't
give a fuck what the law thought.

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I know what I thought. There
was many many more meetings with them.

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I never brought another package. I
believe it went through one of his brothers.

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The reason it did that, John
said, are you uncomfortable with this

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situation? What situation with Patsy Conny? I don't even know what you're talking

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about? John left, Are you
made that you didn't get anything. I

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don't know what you're talking about.
It never happened. Great, it never

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happened. Whatever you're talking about,
it never happened. I did talk to

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the agents about it a little bit. I don't think I went in such

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detail. It wasn't important to them
at that time as it is to you,

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guys, my family, you people
who joined me on Patreon, you're

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the people who ask me. It'll
come out on YouTube, but it'll come

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out in different places. But I'm
giving this to you as close to detail

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as I could possibly remember. Our
relationship with Patchy Conty fell apart because of

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a situation somebody in his crew,
a guy named Louis de Bono. He

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was killed by us, John Gotti, me and our family. That is

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a whole nother story that is going
to be built into my podcast, So

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I'm not going to get into it. And for you guys who want to

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