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beer. That's Beer in Front, and it's coming up now. Welcome to
episode two hundred and eleven of Beer in Front. I'm your host Dave Zalatorus,
and Beer in Front is a proud odd Pods Media Network member and member
of the Beer Media Group. On this episode, I'll talk to John Eggleton
from Nition Beer. He has a great website and podcast devoted to the non
alcoholic beer scene. We had a good conversation over some beers from Go Brewing.
I'll also discuss the news that Lagnitas is closing at Chicago facility. All
this and much more coming up on Beer in Front. Before we get started,
I think I need to apologize for the last two solo episodes. I
don't think they were up to my usual standard. The back surgery has done
a bigger number on me than I thought it would, and I should have
just taken the time off instead of rushing to get an episode out. So
if you listened and you didn't think it was all that great. I agree
with you, and I'm sorry. I'm not going to have an episode out
next week because one, I'm still waiting for the damn cicadas, and two
it's my birthday on Thursday, so I'm taken next week off. In beer
and beverage news, I heard over on Rod Jay's show the other night that
the whole meal delivery company Hello Fresh, they're teaming up with a non alcoholic
brewery named Kit to deliver a free can of their hazy ipa when you order
meal kits from them. The promo just ended, you know today, I'm
recording this Friday. It just ended and it was only available to Hello Fresh
customers in the Northeast. But that's a cool way to get your product out
there. Local stuff here. Talk about the cicadas. Noon Whistle Brewing if
you had this, God bless you. But they were serving up shots of
Alort quick to cicada in the shot. No thank you. I'm gonna pass.
I like malort, but I'm not drinking a shot cicada infused milort.
But if you want to head over to Noon Wistol sad news out of the
Chicago area, Lagaanita is announced on Thursday that they were going to close the
Chicago facility here, which is huge now they opened up about ten years ago.
They're gonna keep part of it open, is a warehouse, but the
brewery itself and the tap the tap rooms closed now, but the brewery itself
that's gonna move out to California by August first. They say it's gonna be
about eighty six jobs lost here. Some people are gonna, you know,
move over to Petaluma and you know, go out west. Some will be
able to work remote from what the articles I was reading, but yeah,
a little less than ninety people are going to be with out of a job
here. So that's pretty sad. It's just weird. You know. I
was talking to Rod Jay on his show yesterday. You know, God blessed
the people like you know, from lobbyitis. God blessed the people from Ballast
Point that sold and made their money when they did. But a lot of
these places just got too big and not right. It's not cool. So
then yeah, actually, speaking of Ballast Point, that location I think is
still open in the West Loop. So there's a lot of brewery space open
here in the Chicago area. Miller Lite and the Big Green Egg and come
out with the Big Green Egg. Now this is just like the Big Green
Egg barbecue cooker. It's a Komodo style cooker and it's highly insulated, but
this is designed to hold a quarter barrel of Miller Lite and it will keep
it that perfect temperature. It looks really cool. One it's got the Miller
Light handle on there and stuff. And two it costs three hundred and fifty
bucks. But if you're interested, you could head over to Miller Lite's website.
Then you could purchase this starting the twenty eight and it'll be three hundred
and fifty dollars. And finally, the Open Gate Brewery from Guinness in Baltimore,
and hopefully they're going to do it here in Chicago. They're coming out
with Safe Space. This is a coulsh with pineapple and passion fruit. According
to the label, they stand alongside Baltimore Safe Haven in Chicago's Brave Space Alliance
in their mission of creating safe spaces for the LGBTQ plus community. So hopefully
that you'll be here in Chicago as well, since they're partnering with a place
here. But right now, the only thing I read about it it's going
to be at the Baltimore location. But that looks really cool, so if
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dot Last Comic Shot podcast dot com. All right, non alcoholic beer has
really come a long way in the last five years or so. I've talked
before with and any breweries, but today he wanted to branch out and talk
more about the topic and where NA beers will fit in our future. Joining
me today is John Eggleton. He's the founder of Nation Online or Nation Online,
and is the host of the US of NA podcast. John, thank
you so much for coming on, sir, Well, Danny, thanks for
having me. I'm looking forward to this, like we were emailing it back
and forth and it seems like we're pretty similar where we both still enjoy a
regular beer, but like we don't pull pool any breweries, and we kind
of embraced him and what they offer to the beverage industry. What was it
that got you into na beer? Yeah, so it was a couple of
things. I mean, one, I'm in my I'm a guy in my
late forties and so not getting any younger. I've always been a runner my
whole life for most of my life, and so I've always felt like as
long as I'm doing something active, then for the most part, on the
on the food and beat side, I felt like I could pretty much do
whatever I pleased or wanted. Obviously, when you get to a certain age,
that's not always the case. And so I think, you know,
as I got into my deeper into my forties, that became a little more
of something that I was thinking about. And then I think the real catalyst
was in twenty twenty one, I went through a health of that where I
had three surgeries, you know, fortunately nothing life threatening or anything like that,
but three surgeries from twenty twenty one through the end of twenty twenty two.
And I would say that sort of officially recalibrated my definition of good health
and always been a beer drinker. I always enjoyed craft beer. I really
enjoyed when craft beer took off, you know, twenty or so years ago
and trying different things, and was excited to find out that that was starting
to exist in the non alcoholic world as well. What made you decide to
start a podcast? Yeah, so the deeper I got into it, And
again I mentioned a big fan of beer and Kraft Beer and have been for
a while. And I think just seeing some of the similarities and some of
the parallels to where we are right now with NA where craft beer overall,
and I think of NA beer as a subset of that at least we're talking
about the craft beer Porsche, not necessarily the bud Zeros or the Core's Edges
or the macro beers like that. But if you think about it from the
craft beer standpoint, But really just felt like there was a need to have
another outlet out there in the space. There's some great content creators and influencers
out there, and some of them have become good friends of mine, and
it's a great community, a terrific community. Wanted to start a digital content
platform to really help spread the news and just share information about what ana beer
is about and maybe break down any stereotypes about it. I mean, to
me, a part of beer. It's a part of Kraft beer and beer
culture, and people who enjoy a non alcoholic beer either still enjoy the taste
of a regular beer as well, or maybe they used to and don't for
various other reasons, and just felt like it was a great opportunity to explore.
Yeah, I know, it's hard to get someone to change that deep
mindset of no, this is not going to be good. It's just hard
to get people away from that. I know. Even a couple of weeks
ago, I was at a beer festival here and Go was there and I
told my friend, I'm like, oh, we have to go you know,
hamp this this is good stuff. And he just kind of looked at
me like I'm like, dude, trust me, it's good. You're gonna
like it, and you know, he had a sip and then he's like,
oh, yeah, this is pretty good. But I think that I
don't know what that trigger is or what that block is in some people's heads,
like this is just going to suck. This won't be good and once
they try the newer stuff and I think, you know, they agree and
they're hooked right. Well, the truth of the matter is it's a category
that was dominated by brands that maybe weren't as good. And not to throw
you know, any brands under the bus, but you know, for many
years of duels, sharps were really the definition of the category. And I
think you know, people who are in the NA space now like to say,
it's not your father's of duels. Yeah, and I think that's certainly
the case, as you know, and you know, you've interviewed some of
the NA brewery owners themselves who have really gotten into it to talk about some
of the innovative new methods, et cetera. But there's certainly is still a
stigma about that, and I hope that that will change, and you know,
I would love to be a small part of helping that and helping people
discover non alcoholic beer because it really has changed significantly, and there's some great
ones out there. Yeah, I know, I remember He've been, you
know, with those duels and when they had their amber that came out,
you know, some people were like, Oh, you're gonna like this,
this is Amber, I'm like, no, this still sucks. This is
still not that good. You know, I will drink water, you know,
colk or pepsi before, I would drink that if I wanted something without
the flavor, without the alcohol. Right now, the macro producers, I
think getting there as well. I mean they see the opportunity, they see
the dollar signs at least, and so you see some major investments happening.
So I think we're starting to see some improvement and flavor there as well.
I mean, our focus is more the craft beer side, but hopefully a
rising tide will lift all boats exactly. I know, like a lot of
people and I thought it was okay, but a lot of people seem to
this dry January at least really embraced the Guinness zero. So hopefully you know
that, you know, triggers some people to branch out a little bit more.
Hey, I like this as a stout. I'll try something else.
Right, Well, that's a good beer again, a zero zero. They've
done a really nice job with it. Yeah. Well, while we continue
talking, I'm going to crack open one from Go now. I've had Joe
on from Go Brewing a couple times, their local hero out of Naperville.
I really like their products a lot. I'm going to have there, not
just another story double IPA. I think I had this on the show when
I talk to Joe in August, and it's really good. Yeah, that's
a good one for sure. We've had that as well. And what I
like about Go is you could pick it up here now, like it's available
in one of our chain grocery stores. So you know, Naperville's a little
far from me. But the fact that now I could just go, you
know, a mile down the road and pick it up at a grocery store.
I could have more of this now right now. They've definitely picked up
their game. Yeah. I mean, looking at it, you would not
know this as an NA beer. Maybe the carbonation bubbles are a little finer,
I think, if you're really nitpicking, But I mean it looks great,
great head love the Hoperoma. I mean it's just a really solid beer.
No, absolutely now, And I continuing the go theme, I've got
Go Sunshine State Tropical IPA. This has been a favorite of mine since I
first discovered it sometime last year. Yeah, I figured since we were talking
some Chicago beers, we could both be sipping on one ear. Yeah,
absolutely was there Like this how moment for you when you realize that any beers
are really good? You know, It's funny when I talked to other people
who are into NA beer, I feel like the gateway drug, if you
will, for all of us was Athletic, you know, that was.
I can't remember how many times I picked up a six pack of Athletic in
a in a package store which is what we call the meer in Georgia,
or a grocery store, and and maybe put it back on the shelf,
just couldn't quite pull the trigger on it. But once I did and tasted
it and went, wow, this I think it was the run wild IPA
was the very first one I had, and I took it first blood.
Yeah, I think it's the first for a lot of people, and cracked
it open. Was like, wow, this this tastes just like a beer.
It's really good. And you know, I like that it was in
a in a craft style an I p a. You know, it struck
me that it wasn't just this is a non out h beer, which I
think is how the category was known previously. So I think it was some
time after that and then realizing I went into a total wine and more sometimes
shortly after that, and you know, there was an entire I think at
that point it was maybe an entire column or shelf, which has now grown
to at least two since that time. So just seeing all the different brands
and options out there, it was it was a little bit mind blowing.
What are your opinions on Athletic because well, I think they're okay, Like,
I'm not grabbing that's not my first you know, reach at the liquor
store in the NA section. Sure, no, that's fair. I mean
I think I think the what they do, certainly through their their huge distribution
arm is they get na in places that people may not otherwise be thinking about
it. So like me back then, you know, sitting in a grocery
store or a liquor store and looking at regular beer, it was right there
next to it. And it has a catchy name. I know. That's
one of the other things we wanted to talk about as well, is kind
of the aspirational nature of it. It was sort of like Athletic, you
know, which is all about but from a flavored perspective. You know,
everybody I think has different opinions. I mean, I feel like they are
solid. There are and to me it was a it was an entry way
into finding other options. And I think, you know, like many Kraft
beer lovers, I love to find different things to drink. I don't just
drink the same one over and over again. I you know, most people
I think are that way. And so for me, it was just an
introduction into options and this world of non alcoholic beers and brands that's out there
that you know is an opportunity. We were talking about the name and yeah,
companies like the Athletic you have momentum that we both spoke to lurs with
go. They all have this similar feel when like you have any beers from
Sierra Nevada now called Trail Pass. I mean, is that what they're going
for? I know, like it did great for michelob Ultra promote this athletic
lifestyle. You could have this after a workout or run. Is that the
core market or is that what do you think? Is that what I'm I'm
drinking at a beer and I'm stump place. Is that the market that they're
going for their core consumer? It's a great observation the aspirational nature of the
of some of these names, and athletic is the most obvious of those,
as you mentioned from the numbers that I've seen and you probably have as well,
I think athletic has been behind some of these. I mean, seventy
to eighty percent of those who drink NA beer also drink regular alcohol at other
times. So I think the bigger ones like an athletic are really going after
that that broader market of people that would be in both categories potentially. I
do think that the health and wellness aspect is probably the biggest tent right now
for NA where you know, that's the that's the biggest play. It's the
easiest messaging. You know, any beer doesn't have alcohol, you don't have
the negative benefits of putting ethanol into your body, whether for that night,
that week, that month, or permanently, whatever your situation is or what
you're looking to do. So I think that's certainly the biggest one right now.
But I do think others are emerging, and I you know, you
see brands like mash Gang which is piloting there in Pilot Brewing in Chicago,
and I think they're really going after more of that beer culture, not really
the health and wellness angle to it per se, and so I think we're
starting to see more of those that are really having their own brand, and
truthfully, I think that's something that's still pretty badly needed in the NA space,
especially with the NA only breweries where they feel very national and you know,
having a little bit more of that personality to them, and so it's
been nice to see some of that starting to emerge. Yeah, it was
nice when I went Monday to Pilot Project to pick up something for our talks
here, it just seemed like very cool. It didn't seem unnatural that you
had. If you're not familar with Pilot Project, they have four or five
different breweries there, and they're kind of like an incubator, so everybody brews
there. They put it out on tap and in per sale, so you
had your regular beers, then you had a pickle beer, your NA beer,
and it was just all it seemed very organic and like it fit there.
So I mean that I think was cool to see and hopefully you know
they're going to do well as well, they're going to do well. Yeah,
No, it'd be great to see how that all plays out. I
mean, there, I know a lot of people are excited about their beer,
and so yeah, we'll see where it goes. In your opinion,
like, where do you see the market, you know, shaking out in
the next say, five years. Is it going to be three to five
national brands fighting it out or it's going to be like more of the craft
beer scene where you know, people want to drink local and if they can
get an ANA option at their favorite tap room, great. That's a great
question and my answer would be I think it'll be a little bit of both.
I think on the on the national brand side, the market is dominated
by Athletic I mean, they have such a huge amount of market share.
I've heard some different numbers, but you know they're there. They dominate the
craft beer in a space for sure. I do think because consumers want that
choice that you mentioned, whether it's local or regional, or just want to
have different options, I think we'll naturally see some other national players emerge.
You know how many of those there will be. I think right now there's
a lot of different ANA only breweries. A lot of them are on the
smaller side, a lot of them make some great beer, so we want
to see all of them succeed but I do think they'll be a little bit
of consolidation at some point, and I think there'll be a few others that'll
be on the big stage there with Athletic, whether they anybody's able to run
them down in terms of market share, you know, they have such a
head start, and I think there's also a big question of what they end
up doing in the future. Do they you know, do they sell to
a to one of the big macro player, do they go public? I
mean, who knows what their long term plans would be. I think that
would also play a role and how things go in terms of next steps.
But I think that'll happen on the national side. But I truly hope that
the local regional breweries continue to get into it. I mean, I really
feel like that's where the culture of beer and the culture of craft beer really
is the strongest. And you know, people want to go down to their
local brewery and they want to have an NA there. They don't want to
and I know, you know, I know people who will sneak an NA
into their local brewery to meet up with friends, and they feel bad about
it. They don't want to do that. They don't want to take anything
away from their local brewery, but since most of them at least to this
point, have not been able to produce an NA and there's good reasons for
that. It's a commitment for sure, and a lot of different levels.
But I truly think we will see over the next three to five years a
lot more of the local regional breweries right here in Atlanta. As a matter
of fact, I'll give a shout out to a Wild Heaven Beer. They've
launched a near that came out in January, and I know they're planning on
launching a portfolio of Nabeer's as well, so I think that'll be part of
the experience, and I think hopefully that'll compliment some more players really coming on
the national scene. I was just actually, right before we logged on here,
I was reading an article I'm Brewbound with somebody over from Sierra Nevada and
they were talking about the Trail Pass line and their line of hop waters and
they're doing extremely well. So that's good, and it's weird, like you
know, Athletic with its own separate entity, but then you see a craft
brand like Sierra Nevada, which you know, I think people will try that
based on the name, like, oh, I know Sierra Nevada, they
have a name for quality that I'll give this a try. So, you
know, I just wonder, is there going to be more craft brands that
you know, come up with There any lines that are going to do well
or is it going to be a separate thing like a goal or an athletic
or momentum that's going to lead the way. But hopefully they all will fit
in right now, you're you're absolutely right. I mean, to Shoots is
another one that's making a big push. They're black Butte the Porter and now
more recently have released an Ana version of their fresh Squeezed ipa, which I
am anxiously awaiting for that to make its way to Georgia. I've not seen
it as of yet, so I think you're right. I mean, those
are craft bigger craft brewers that have the resources to be able to invest in
the category, and I think they see the opportunity. I know, with
to Shoots, they're planning on having NAB a national launch, I believe,
and trail Pass has very quickly gone from a new brand less than a year
ago to they're pretty much in every grocery store package store or even n a
store that we go into. So they've been able to get some great distribution
and again they're hopefully pulling in some new folks to the category, much like
Athletic has played that role the last few years. Yeah, I know,
I just read a couple of weeks ago Sierra is going to expand the trail
Pass line. They're going to have like two more in a variety pack,
which is cool right now, that's exciting. You know. We talked to
Lars over at Momentum and he was mentioning that they'd be willing to work with
different breweries. And the way he was describing it on your show and I
listened to it the other day, was you know, it didn't sound like
it would cost that much. It would be cost prohibitive for a local brewery
to come up with an NA thing. I mean, in my opinion,
I think that would be perfect. You can go to the brewery that you
want to go to. You support local. It's not you know, the
local brewery. I mean, it's a business. You have to make money.
And if they're going to have to come up with a lot of money
for all this equipment, I think that would be cost prohibitive for a small,
mom and pop brewery. But if this is something that could be done
economically, you know, I don't. I think it would be great if
you could go to your local brewery and maybe you know, they'll have in
any version of one of their popular beers and you could rotate it, like,
you know, springtime, you could have a payo ale summer, you
know, maybe a half of ys in winter, a porter or a stout
and just keep rotating that. Then, you know, I personally think that
would be great. You would give more people in the tap room too,
right for sure. Now, that was a really interesting comment that Lars made
about potentially partnering with the local breweries, and to my understanding, what he
was referring to is sharing recipe, you know, sharing the recipe with them
through a partnership to enable them to make it locally and be able to give
them guidance. I mean, even though most local brewers are experienced at what
they do, that brewing na is can be a whole different thing at least
in terms of process and some of the new yeasts that are out there.
So I think that could be very powerful and it could be a way to
extend brands, for brands like Lars's momentum, and certainly it would be very
helpful to the local breweries to be able to offer that and do it in
a cost effective way for sure. So hopefully that we'll see more of that,
and we'd love to explore that further. Maybe we'll get Lars together in
the three of us ten have a we could do an episode on that.
Absolutely, yeah, you know, because when you're going to go to Go
next month. When we were emailing, you're going to be impressed when you
do the tour. I was there in December and did the tour with Joe
and just like the amount of equipment that they have just I mean, they're
so meticulous, which you have to be coming up with in any product,
you can't you know, slip in a one percent or something like that.
There's rigid standard. So if something like well you know what Lars was mentioning,
where a brewery can make it any beer without having to invest in all
of this expensive equipment, that's going to be great for you know, your
local mom and pop craft brewery for sure. I know, and we're definitely
excited about our visit up to Go. I mean, I think the way
that they've built built their brewery and the way that they've grown is a little
bit some or to athletic in the sense that they have a you know,
had a dedicated brewer from the very beginning, invested in all of their own
equipment. I think it was very unique what they did with the tap room,
and I liked one of the things they did early was and I think
they still do this. I'll be there next month, but I believe they
still have regular alcoholic beers that are on part of the rotating guest taps,
which I thought was really fun. I mean, you sometimes think about NA
being relegated to the kiddie table, so it sort of puts the NA front
and center and the full alcohol beer is the reverse, which is a little
bit of a flip. But now I think what they're doing is great,
and I think as brands like them continue to grow and clearly go as growing
very quickly, there could be some opportunities for partnerships with the local side,
and you know, again Rising Tide hopefully can lift all boats exactly. Well.
I love what you did with the website. It's yeah, reviews on
there. Anything you want to know about the industry non alcoholic beer. You
could find it there and it's nationbeer dot com. I'll include the link in
the show notes. But I really love the design and everything that you did
with the website. Well, thank you. I appreciate that, you know,
And if you ever need a guy to help you with some reviews like
Chicago, I know a guy that could help. Well, that sounds great.
Now, we've never envisioned Nation Beer to just be me. We've been
visioning it as a digital content platform, so hopefully want to have some additional
voices. I may be taking you up on that at some point, absolutely,
I'm here. Do you see expanding Nation Beer to other type of any
products besides beer, like mocktails or hopwater, even you know, CBD and
THC beverages here seemed to be taking off at a faster rate than any beers.
Do you see Nation Beer expanding That's a great question, and it is
something that we thought about, you know, I think in terms of though
we don't necessarily think of ourselves as a content creator or an influencer per se,
we see ourselves as more of a platform. There are some similarities there,
and there happen to be some great influencers and content producers already, and
the mocktail and the alcohol free spirit space. There's some great ones in the
wine space. I decided to start with beer just because it was what I
felt I knew the best and what I was closest to and most passionate about.
You know, could there be an opportunity to expand into those other categories.
I think that's certainly possible, you know, once we get a little
further down the road, hopefully on the on the beer side of things.
I do think to your point the THC that would be likely an earlier expansion
into that category looking at those as some of those have really taken out.
That's something that we've been curious and interested in, and I think too maybe
even the low alcohol space. So we've done some stories on the you know,
the little beer side, and we did a full podcast episode about that
where there's a lot of these little beer festivals that are focused on pilsners and
laggers and lower gravity beers, and we're hearing about you know, we're seeing
more of that in the craft beers where it's more maybe three and a half
percent instead of the you know, five six seven percent stuff that are used
to, so I think that could be a whole other angle to it as
well as that part hopefully takes off at some point. Well, if you
need to know anything about the non alcoholic beer seeing, check out nationbeer dot
com real quick before I let you go. You know, I'm going through
your site looking at it. We both really like the Speedway Stout, the
non alcoholic from Alesmith. What has been your favorite any beer so far that
you know, maybe if somebody sees it in their shells they'll pick it up.
Wow, such a loaded question. Yeah, I now, I definitely
like the Speedway Stout and and that one, you know, And I almost
feel ashamed to admit this as a beer person, but I don't always love
of all the darker beers quite as much, and that was one that just
blew me away. It's a great flavor, very flavorful, and the coffee
flavors in that as well, So that would certainly be on the list I
mentioned before. Sunshine State, which I have opened in front of me from
go there in Chicago, is definitely one of my favorites, and I think
a lot of what they do is excellent, you know. In other words,
the other beers I think are really more situational for me. There are
some beers that I like to crack open maybe after a run. You know,
that's become a bit of a tradition for me since I've gotten into Na's
is to open up some of those. So I'll open up a partake hazy
ipa. It's on the lighter side and I kind of like that at that
point, So that's something that I'll drink then. And you know, going
back to the local nas, there's that local one I mentioned. Wild Heaven
for me is one of my favorites, and it may be a little biased
since it's also they're also a neighbor of mine. Practically they are a couple
miles down the road. But it's a very flavorful, very juicy ipa.
And just having one of those, they have them undraft usually and just drinking
one of those on their patio with the sunshining is about the greatest thing ever.
So I have to I'd have to put that one on the list,
say all right, well, I'll have to include that and the show the
link in the show notes, So if you're in the Atlanta area, you
have to go check that out. Well, John, thank you so much.
Again. I really appreciate your knowledge talking about the non alcoholic beer scene.
Once again, check out nationbeard dot com. I think you're going to
enjoy it and all the information that you can get there. John, Well,
i'll talk to you in a couple minutes, sir, Well, thanks
for having me. This has been a lot of fun. Yeah. So,
and also you know, we'll put this out probably close thround the same
time. But I'm going to jump on the us NA podcast and we're going
to talk a little bit more about the Chicago area and the non alcoholics scene
here. So make sure you check out the us of NA. John,
I'll talk to you in a couple minutes. All right, it sounds great,
all right. The beer that's in front of me, now, I
talked about it when I was talking to John, but I wanted to do
a little more in depth review of from Go Brewing. This is not just
another story double ipa. I've had this before. It's a great beer,
not just a great and a beer. It's just a great beer. So
pick it up and put it in the cart. Twelve ounce. Can they
use Simco Mosaic and Citra hops on here. Let's bust this one open.
Really good color here, nice amber color, good foam on this. As
I was pouring, the aroma hit me right up front. I don't even
need to put my nose to this. It smells really good. Yeah,
you get all of those hops that hit you right up front. It smells
fantastic, really has a good flavor here. I like all of the hop
notes that I get from this. The malt notes are there. You get
a little sweetness. I mean you're thinking to yourself, it's a double ipa,
but it's na. But trust me, pick it up, put it
in the cart. It's that good. See, I'm liking this a little
better now. We had a new refrigerator last week, and I think it's
a little too cold right now. So the one that I had when I
was talking with John was really cold, and this one i'd let's sit out
for a little bit before I opened it up. And I'm getting more of
the flavors with this now. So I'm really digging this beer. That's usually
the one I pick up when I see it like here. They're available with
Mariano's now, so you could just run to your grocery store and pick it
up. You don't have to run to Naperville or go to a liquor store
like Bennie's. Marianos carries this. This was the only one I saw.
I wish there would be more of a variety, but I'm not gonna argue
with not just another story. So if you're looking for a good Ana beer,
you want to get something from Illinois, pick up anything, pick up
really anything from Go Brewing, but not just another story. Double ip as
a winner. Put it in the carts. All right. That's gonna wrap
things up for this edition of Beer in Front. I thank you very much
for listening, and I want to thank again John Eggleton over at Nation Beer
for chatting. That was a fun time. Check out his website and podcast
once again. I'm taking this week off so I will see you the first
Monday in June. Have a great holiday weekend, and hopefully the cicados will
be out by then so I could hear I'm disappointed. I'm waiting for the
and ham of the ethen cicadas. So I have a great week everyone.
I will see you later, and remember sometimes the beer in front of you
is the best one yet. M