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The following present is Del Marvi Studios
Production. Welcome back to truth Seekers.

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It's time for a very special interview. We're bringing back a guest who has

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been on both podcasts before and he's
been a longtime friend of the show.

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And I'm very happy to report that
the book that he has been working on

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has been published. And our special
guest today, who again, who's been

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on before. I think we spoke
about the broz And Sea and his name

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is a Joseph Colin Wright and his
book that is just published that is available

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on Amazon, and I will have
that link for you guys to go to

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the show notes and click on it
and it will take you right to the

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site for you to purchase the book. And it's entitled Through a Glass Unveiled

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and it's an incredible story about his
incredible life and he's just a well,

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let's keep using the word. He's
really an incredible person and I consider a

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good friend. And it's Colin.
That's kind of what I know. Your

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author name is Joseph Colin, right, but you know I call you Colin.

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So welcome to the show, sir. How are you doing? Love

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to be your doorg cheer off?
Well? Again. Congratulations. It's a

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it's a big accomplishment to writing a
book because for those who have never written

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a book before that there is so
much that goes into it. What order

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do you put it in? And
I know one thing that we had talked

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about kind of before about like how
personal do you really want to be when

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you're sharing these experiences. So I'll
give you the floor for the first few

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minutes. And let's not assume everybody
has heard our previous conversation, So go

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ahead and introduce yourself to the audience. All right, So, just like

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before, I'm sure you don't mind, I would like to start off with

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prayer. All right, family,
Father, Lord, thank you so much

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for this time again with George Hobbs. What a wonderful man, father and

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grandfather, And just thank you Lord
for that this man d he's preaching so

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many people. I pray you continue
to bless him and his family. So

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I pray that this episode reaches as
many people as possible. And I pray

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that I pray that you accept what
I've done to lift up and glorify your

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son. And I pray that you
help me stay out of the way as

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usual, and I pray you give
me the words to speak. I pray

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you speak for me and just all
all glory to Jesus Christ. I pray

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Jesus in your name. M Amen, brother, thank you. Yep.

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So you wanted me to talk about
myself, right, Yeah, a little

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introduction to the audience for you know, some of them that's the first time

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hearing you who may have not caught
that last podcast. Absolutely. Yeah.

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So uh. I My family were
from originally from Lebanon, Missouri, just

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the wonderful place from living in Missouri, and we stayed there until I was

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about let's say eight years old,
and a bunch of stuff happened there spiritually,

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a lot of Saint worship back in
Missouri actually, and my mom rest

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in peace. She actually passed away
December seventh. She was an amazing woman.

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So I'm gonna try not to get
emotional hair she and she is by

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far the number one reason why I
got saved. And she would read the

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original King James to us when we
were little, and I credited that for

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a lot of my reading comprehension and
my ability to speak, regardless of the

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fact that it hit my head you
know, multiple times, I've traumatic,

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you know, emotional trauma, just
stuff in my life and just she's she's

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just an amazing woman and she's no
longer with us, but I want to

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dedicate this personally to my mom.
Ah, she's just very specil So yeah,

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she she decided to she wanted to
move from. We went to Washington

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State, the Diniacoma, Washington for
a little bit with our cousins, and

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then moved down to Presstott, Arizona. And let me tell you that place

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pressed On Arizona is honestly like learning
a little bit about what is it JPL,

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the oh yeah person. Yeah,
this this place would almost like like

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a little vacation getaway or like his
followers and stuff real you know, New

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Age crystals and all the power within
yourself and all that nonsense. So we

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lived there for probably six state months. Finally came to Vista, California and

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been here ever since. So I
currently live on Camp Pendleton. And yeah,

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so I have a daughter, amazing
daughter that the Lord has blessed me

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with, and yeah that's saved when
I was about five, and this book

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that I came out with it,
I've had a burning desire to write about

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all the supernatural experiences that I've been
through and which are I mean crazy crazy,

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It's just very a huge understatement.
So uh, it's it's it's in

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chronological order, so you know,
I talk about all this stuff, and

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I for every entry that I put
in there, I illustrated though, I

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drew a picture and colored each one, and there's two photographs in there.

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So I encourage anyone who gets this
book. It's uh kind of spooky.

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There's some pretty freaking things in there. I wouldn't recommend it for the youngsters,

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probably fourteen and older. It's very
real, very raw, and Georgie,

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you nailed it. I actually left
this stuff out because, like you

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said, you have to decide as
an author how personally you want to get

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so you know, yeah, that's
how am I doing so far? You're

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awesome and and something I wanted to
kind of jump in and mention, and

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I forgot that we even had this
conversation a while back when you would mention

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Lebanon, Missouri and the Satanic temple
there, and just I had no idea.

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You know, you think Missouri just
like you think Switzerland was you know,

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yodeling and chocolate, and you really
understand all the nefarious activity that goes

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on there, and it's the same
you know us in Fort Leonard would Missouri,

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and you think Lake of the Ozarks
and fishing, and obviously Saint Louis.

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Every big city has its hiccups,
but it doesn't take much. And

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listen, if you can find that
kind of stuff on Google without having to

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dig down into Brave and the index, then you know there's something serious going

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on with that. And then I
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that was going to Lebanon, and
I think you might have even connected with

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them. I don't know. Yeah, no, you're right. Yeah she

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did with some lady. I forget
her name, but she was a concerned

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and she's like, yeah, I
heard your episode and I was just curious,

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and it's funny. When she asked
me, I was actually I was

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my mom's and my mom and my
dad there. They're old school, so

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they're they're hillbilly, kind of redneckish, and uh, it's so funny.

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I was at her house and I
read it and I was like, that's

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funny, and it's like, hey, mom, yeah, it's up.

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And my dad walks in and said, hey, you guys. I started

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telling them what's what's places to steer
away from? At Levin in Missouri.

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And they both looked me, like, why are you asking that? And

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I told them I told them about
your podcast and the episode and the girl

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inquiring, and and they just started
rowing off all these streets that I didn't

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even know about. But they you
know, they lived there for like decades,

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right, so they they know every
church and full building and every quarter.

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So it was just funny to have
them reminiscent start telling me stuff.

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The stuff. Well, I hope
she's doing okay because I didn't hear from

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her sense. So if you're listening, send us an email, let me

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know, because I think she sold
everything, picked up an RV and just

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kind of took off. I think
she's actually in California or or Oregon and

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she just kind of packed up and
left, and she was looking for a

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place to kind of make home.
And you know, we are living in

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bizarro world, and you know,
I'm kind of at the point where I

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feel there's no place to really run
to anymore. Just dig in and find

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like minded people locally and do the
best you can. Your book, you

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state somewhere around the age of five
that you felt compelled to get saved,

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and that really, in the realm
of things, is very early for someone

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to ask those type of questions.
That's really interesting. Was it something you

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guys were always going to church or
what made you compelled to talk to your

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mom about getting saved? Well,
that's as interesting. Is I actually have

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repressed memories that I need to go
to the therapist or something. I don't

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know, I got to go to
somebody because I don't actually know why I

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did this. I just I remember
going up to my mom and it's actually

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the entry, the first entry of
the book. And I go up to

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her and pull out her dress.
I can still see. I can still

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remember saying this. And she was
cooking like beef stew or chili or something,

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and she was at the in front
of the stove and I pulled on

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her dress and I said, Mom, how do I get saved? Or

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I want to get saved or something
like that, And she said what So,

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so you're right. We we we
all went to church. We went

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to church called Tabernacle Christian, the
Tabernacle Christian Academy. It was a very

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very what you call traditional Baptist and
I have a very horrible memory of while

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going to that church because it's unfortunate. But people always talk about racism and

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oh, you're a racist, and
this and that. This is that people

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don't understand what real racism looks like. That I can still remember being in

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church and ah, gosh, I
think about this, it tears me up.

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This black family was in the church
and the tabernacle had a bunch of

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elders right about the racist old white
people. Not all of them, I

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shouldn't say that, but there was. There was a lot of good people,

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but there were some racist people there, just old school, you know.

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And I remember they stood up and
they're like, we need to vote

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these people out. And I didn't
know what was going on. I had

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no idea, but I still remember
seeing this black family walking up the aisle

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and they were crying, and it
just it chokes me up to think about

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it, because you know, they
they were kicked out of a church,

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like what. But this happened because
they were black, and that is that's

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real racism. That's horrible. It
should never happen. And I'm ashamed to

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be a part of something like that, but that's you know, I'm assuming

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the church isn't like that anymore.
But that was back in the eighties,

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so yeah, and yeah, so
we all went to that church and actually

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went to private school there, and
we would go every Sunday. So I

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assume that that I don't know,
maybe God put around my heart or something

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that I don't really know. I
just went up to her and asked her,

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and basically from that moment in the
second entry, I kneeled down in

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the front yard. I started worshiping
God, just very similar to how Solomon

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did. He got up on top
of the table and he stuck out his

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arms and started praising the Lord and
giving thanks to God. That's kind of

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what I was doing. I remember
doing that, and then that's from that

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moment I've been attacked relentlessly by the
enemy. So that's really interesting. You

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mentioned that so many people have reached
out to me because many of our listeners

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have had kind of similar unpleasant experiences
within you know, formal churches. Yeah,

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and you actually, I think it's
chapter two that is actually entitled front

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yard Worship, and there's so many
people who were kind of bringing not necessarily

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front yard, but just the small
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rotate maybe you know, this week
we're going to have, you know,

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get together at our house, you
know, kind of a pot luck the

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next week. And it's not like
one person that is preaching to everyone.

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It's just kind of everybody getting involved. And I'm getting more and more emails

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of saying that, you know,
we're just doing it's not a denomination.

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It's just we follow Christ, and
you know, we bring the people into

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our home and we go from there. And I'm starting to see and hear

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a lot more of that type of
thing, which I think is great.

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When I see people like the guy
in Houston Oldstein and the guy in Atlanta

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and all those things, it really
upsets me because that's not what Jesus was

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about. Jesus was not about airplanes. You know, obviously I didn't have

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them, but he would have never
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No, Yeah, it's funny you
say that because this church of going to

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just outside of Camp Pelton, they
they got their building fund and everything,

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and they're expanding and this, that
and the other. And I remember last

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time I was there, and it
must be God given me the spirit.

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I don't I'm not really shy to
talk about certain things like most people are.

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I'm sitting there and these older women
are talking like, oh this and

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that the church is growing and we're
gonna build onto this and and something told

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me to say this. I turned
around and I said, morning, ladies.

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I was like, you talking about
the building from the gas and it

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shows like a pamphlet and showing all
the stuff that's gonna happen. And isn't

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that great? I said, that
is great? I said, and then

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after we do that, uh,
then we can break off and start somewhere

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and start it all over. I
got another location, and they looked at

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me like all puzzle, like they
didn't know of a say, you see

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what I'm saying, Like yeah,
yeah, that's fine. Get to a

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certain point and then kind of like
uh, like the body like a cell

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multiplies, Like that's what you're supposed
to do. You're supposed to That's what

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Paul. It's faced to what Paul
did. Right. He was telling them,

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okay, you know, go here, build up, build a group,

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and then you know, get a
couple people that are solid in the

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face, and then take them with
you and then go on to the net

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and started up, you know,
repeat the process. That's right, And

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that's that's not that's not all we
see, like you're saying, like it's

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actually the opposite of what we're supposed
to do is a massive compound looks like

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what do you guysed to do with? You know? So yeah, you

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actually it's the second person this week
to reference Paul and how he did that,

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how he taught that. Yeah,
let's talk about if we could,

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if we talked about your first out
of body experience. Sure, yeah,

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this one was strange because it's weird
of God does stuff. Missus Wolfe was

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my kindergarten teacher, and she had
three daughters, and I mean we knew

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her pretty well. It's like everyone
in the small town. Everybody knows everybody,

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and her oldest daughter would like babysitizen
and stuff. And so one day

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my mom had to do some errands
or do something. I knew what it

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was, but me and my I'm
number five of six kids, and my

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younger sister, Aaron, she's the
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were at school or whatever they were
doing. So my mom needed somebody to

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watch us, and so she had
set up Missus wolf my kindergarten teacher,

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to watch this on a I'm assuming
on a weekend or something, but it

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was probably I want to say,
a week or two maybe where I had

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this dream. I just remember I
was dreaming, and all of a sudden,

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in my dream, I remember basically
like floating up to the front of

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this house. I'd never seen this
house before, you know, had no

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idea. I just thinking it was
a dream. But then I remember floating.

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I floated in through the front door, and I knew I was floating

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because I was high up in the
air. So I think it's entry number

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five and chapter five where it says
do you mind if I drop in or

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something like that. Yeah, sure, hop skip and a joke, that

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is what it's titled. So I
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guessing six seven feet in the air. And I just remember seeing the inside

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of her house. It was so
weird. I saw I could see your

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kitchen, I could see the hallway
down to my left, I could see

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little partition waller in front of me, and then I could see to my

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right like this den. But it
was like a step down. You had

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to like step down from the front
entry, and it had like a recliner

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and like a bookshelf, and it
was so bizarre. And then and then

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I woke up. And then like
a week or two later, we you

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know, my mom drops us off
to Missus Wolf. I've never been to

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her house. As we pull up
to the house, I started getting this

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awkward familiarity, right, I'm like, going on here, And so as

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we walk up to the front door, it hits me. I'm like,

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no, hey, what's gold on? And so they, you know,

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if Missus wallbanswers the door, Oh, I come in, And as I

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walk in, I see everything from
my dream. I'm like, what in

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the world. And I didn't say
a word to nobody because I knew I

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must have been sick. I'm assuming
I don't know. I think six.

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They I was either five or six, And I didn't say nothing, but

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I knew. And as soon as
I remember thinking to myself, there's gonna

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be a step down to my right, I looked to my right, and

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I'm telling you, it was exactly
like I saw my dream. And I

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didn't say anything for years because I
don't want people to think I was a

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nuts you know, sure, but
that but that's what's weird, is that

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the thing about me is that my
entire life, I've always had this like

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a knowing, like a certain level
of maturity, not because I'm better or

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anything like that, just because of
what I've been forced into, you know

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what I mean. So it's kind
of forced me to grow up in certain

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ways that otherwise I would not have. So, you know, going through

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elementary, going to middle school,
I always had like this knowing in my

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mind that I'm not like other people. And I didn't know why. I

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just knew. I just knew things
that other people didn't and I and I

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kept it to myself. And so
it's played a huge role in my life

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with how I interact with people,
how I assess the situation, how I

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gauge people. I'll see something coming
up and I could just immediately and like

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read them to a point like I'm
not like a you know, I don't

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have magic or anything, but I'm
certain that God gave me. I guess

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you would call it discernment, like
a discerning spirit or something. And there's

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a later entering the book where I
did literally just that. And I told

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my dad because when we went to
New York and we met this guy,

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he was he was gonna buy some
car parts from us, and and we

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met him just for like a minute, and he had to go take a

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phone call or whatever he did.
And we got the truck because it was

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freezing. We were Buffalo, New
York, and we had a whole load

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of car parks in the back and
we're trying to you know, unload them

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to this guy and make a bunch
of money. And just from the minute

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my dad was talking was I was
watching this guy the whole time. We

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got in the truck, and I
look my dad and I was like,

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hey, Dad, I don't like
this guy. My dad sittings were talking

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about it because he said there just
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Yeah. Yeah. So he he's
got the he's got the heater on,

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and we're sitting in the big blue
dually and uh, you know,

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it's freezing outside in Buffalo and New
York. And and I say this off

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the wall comment to him. He's
like, what are you talking about.

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I was like, all right,
I just did a bad feeling from the

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guy. And they just laughed.
And he sees the guy and walked back

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outside. They just laughed. He's
just sit tight, try to get warm,

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and he closes the door and he
talks to him for probably I don't

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know, a ten fifteen minutes or
something. And I can see my dad

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kind of not has head the guys, you know, uh, moving his

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hands and it's playing something to him. And I'm just sitting there, and

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by now the truck fell warm and
my dad walks back over gets into the

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truck. And I watched my dad. He closed the door and he's just

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sitting there. It's all quiet,
and he's looking out the windshield, and

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all of a sudden he looks at
me and he's like, why did you

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say that about him? And I
was like, I don't know, I

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just don't trust him. He laughed
that he would suck out the windshield and

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he goes, I think that guy
just tried to rip me off. Wow,

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And for years, like he told
as soon as we got back home,

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he told my mom and my dad
was my dad my mom were just

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laughing and there they thought. My
mom was like, oh, that's such

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a hoot, like Judo say that. They just thought it was so funny.

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My dad thought it was so funny
that I was twelve years old and

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I told him I was like the
steads of creep watch out for him.

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And he was like be quiet,
just try to get warm and shut up.

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I was dead on. Wow.
I've always mentioned before that that younger

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folks who are able to see things
differently, that I must it must be

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a burden, right because I was. I was flueless to everything I was

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worried about, you know, my
sports, and you know I was working

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when I was you know, eleven
twelve. I was delivered newspapers as I

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hustling to get a buck, the
last thing I was really paying attention to.

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With many of the things that you
were talking about, did you consider

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it that at any point, you
know, these type of things a burdened

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at all or did it you know, affect you. Yeah, it was

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absolutely a burden because what see,
what happens is it's it's kind of a

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catch twenty two because what happens is
you you get this certain understanding of everything

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around you and a certain knowing of
things. Like I said, I didn't

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have a crystal ball or nothing.
But let's just say I had an advantage

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over everyone else that I interacted with. But how do you how do you

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say that? How do you explain
that right without without everyone else being like

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yeah, okay, buddy, whatever, okay, you're a weirdo or you

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know what I mean. So I
think, looking back on it now,

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being older, I think I think
that probably rubbed my siblings raw or rub

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them off a little or the wrong
way. And I didn't realize it really

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at the time growing up, but
looking back on it now, I think

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because to me, it definitely seems
to be a certain level of resentment towards

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me. So, you know,
if I could go back and watch my

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life, like on a movie reel
or something, I'm sure I would see

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things that I didn't see at the
time, you know what I mean.

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Being that I'm older now and more
mature, I'm certain that I would see

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interaction between my siblings and friends that
they'd be like, who does call?

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And think he is? You know
what I'm saying, But they they didn't

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know what I was going through.
And oh, the perspective really is it

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really is everything? Because I mean, you know, look at flat Earth

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like your perspective is completely distorted,
and then once you finally wake up to

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the truth, you're like, wait
a second, and now your perspective is

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completely different. So perspective is is, Uh, it's everything, dude.

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It just it all depends on how
you see something, how you see a

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situation. So now that I'm older, God's showing me, like working on

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my heart, working on my you
know, just humbling me. My pride

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has always been a big issue because
of these things that I've been beset upon.

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Right, so I have to check
myself and understand that most people don't

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see or understand what I do,
and I have to check myself that like

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you know, like try to see
from someone else's perspective. Yeah. So

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yeah, it's just it's really sad
that that, you know, a recent

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guest mentioned that, you know,
when we're young, we see the world

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in a certain light, but then
we're actually told no, this is how

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you're supposed to see the world.
And that's what really is is the sad

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part. You know, when you're
young and you really understand see the world

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for what it is, and then
you're put through the system. No,

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this is how you know, this
is how it works, and you're basically

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to a certain extent, your brainwashed, you know, to believe that this

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is how this this is how the
system should work. Yeah. Absolutely so.

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My whole life, I've always been
that person where I've always asked questions

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when nobody else wanted to. And
that has that has actually led me.

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That really that led me to my
discovering of the Biblical cosmology. Is just

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really the deep the inner desire to
understand more and to understand the truth of

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a given situation, whatever it is. So I'm the type of person where

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if I see something and I see
there's something wrong with it, I'm going

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to try to do it better than
if I can. I'll try to fix

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it, to make the work better. I just I have a desire to

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to get to the root of it, to see, you know, what

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makes a tick and how it works, why it works. And so I've

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always asked questions, right, and
people are always looking me weird, and

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I'll tell something. I'll tell somebody
something to like, yeah, okay,

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Colin, and then six months later
it will happen. You know. That's

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throughout my whole life. It's been
like that. So yeah, but about

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my coming to the truth in the
Bible, it really it actually started.

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I would say I was probably eighteen
or nineteen, but I didn't realize what

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it was leading to then. So
what I mean is we had a friend.

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He's dead now. The rest of
Peach wrote and he's actually the he's

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the big guy, the big guy
in that photo or if you've seen it

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yet, it's the second photograph in
the book from Lahoya and Thenian Reservation.

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There's the picture of all of us
posing and we're at like a campsite.

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He's the big dude and he Meny
and him would do drugs. Basically,

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we would eat mushrooms and both marijuana
and a bunch of stupid stuff when I

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was young. But he was actually
friends with my older brother West. And

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Wes is actually dead. He died
when he was twenty. When I was

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sixteen is when he died. And
that entry number chapter thirteen, I think

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it is, is mom, I'm
coming with you. That's the one where

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West shot and killed and I my
mom. But Roach was friends of the

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West, and West always told me
should callin to be careful around Roach.

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I don't trust him, I said, okay, I put that in the

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back of my head. And but
me and him were We're at our apartment

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and U Shotteridge in Vista, California
when I was I want to say,

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nineteen, and we were pontificating right
and waxing deloquent about nonsense, and then

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somehow it came up either my brother
or him or Roach said something about the

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solar system. They said something and
it caught my ear and I looked at

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him. I was like, that
doesn't make any sense. And Roach was

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like, you don't know what you're
talking about. I was like, no,

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that doesn't add up. And I
think what it was he was trying

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to describe how it was winter,
how he described his winter on one part

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of the world, but the rest
it wasn't right. And I was like,

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yeah, but the Earth is still
the same distance from the sun,

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right, And he's like, well, you just don't understand. He said

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the tilt. That was like the
Tilt're like, bro, the Earth spins

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once every day, Like you don't
know what you're talking about. Like,

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even then, I knew there was
something wrong with it. I just didn't

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know what right. And so that's
really what started it. I just didn't

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realize it. And then probably I
want to say two thousand and fifteen,

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twenty sixteen, maybe maybe even earlier, I'm not really sure. I was

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reading the Bible, I believe it, by Mom's house, and I just

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had this desire to start reading the
Bible again. And what's funny is that

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I came across the story of Noah
and I remember reading the passage talking about

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and you know, the waters poured
in from above and the deep shot up

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and says that God flooded the earth. And I just stopped for a second,

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and I looked up and I was
pondering, and I was like,

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wait a second, how is God
going to flood the earth if it's a

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spinning ball? And I remember thinking
to myself, I was like, that's

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retarded. That literally makes them sense. How would first of all, how

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would that look like? What would
that look like? And two you know

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what I mean, like when you
really stop and consider, what wouldes that?

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Imply like? How would that happen? Where's the water coming from?

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First of all, if it's a
spinning ball? Where is this water?

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Where's these storehouses of water that God
keeps talking about? It just didn't add

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up. It just seems so bizarre, and so you know, it's like

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almost like breadcrumbs in my mind.
And then then it was probably a couple

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of years later, I just started
I think I passed it. Actually a

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passer, I think a young duy
That's what it was. Me and my

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ex we went on a picnic to
the beach, probably twenty eighteen, and

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he said we were sending in front
of the water and the girls were,

410
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:15.920
you know, over yonder on the
picnic on the sand, and me and

411
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:20.000
him were looked at the waves and
he said, Colin, have you ever

412
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:24.319
considered that the Earth might not be
what you think it is? And when

413
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:27.440
he the way he worded it,
I looked at him. I was like,

414
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:30.319
what do you mean. He's like, well, do you think?

415
00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:34.480
He's like, have you ever considered
the Earth might not be a ball?

416
00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:38.039
And what he said it blew my
mind. I was like what. I

417
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:43.440
just kind of laughed. I was
like, I don't know, like I

418
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:46.720
didn't want to mock him, Like
the way he was talking about it sounded

419
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:49.759
like there was something to it.
And at the same time, I'm like,

420
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.400
no, let's retarded. That can't
be true, right because I but

421
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:55.000
against everything you'd been taught your whole
life, all right, And I'm sitting

422
00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:58.960
there trying to be like, where's
this guy going? You know, where

423
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:01.559
are they going with it? And
then just from there it kind of it

424
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:06.720
kind of just you know, just
I would just out of curiosity and I

425
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:10.320
just started looking into him like interesting, because really it's the Bible. The

426
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:15.119
Bible is what just or field everything
to me, because I would ask my

427
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:19.400
mom questions like, well, this
doesn't make sense, like why what does

428
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:21.320
God mean by this? And my
mom would say, Oh, it's just

429
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:25.119
you know, allegory or hyperbole,
you know whatever. I'm like, I

430
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:29.800
don't think so. And I would
have these debates with my mom because she

431
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:32.760
knew the Bible better than anybody I
knew, and I'd ask her questions and

432
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:37.239
she do a lot of times she
wouldn't be able to answer me. I'd

433
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:40.400
be like, well, don't you
think that's a problem, Like nobody knows

434
00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:46.480
they answer these questions, that's a
problem. God doesn't work in confusion.

435
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:51.679
I don't care anybody said, unless
he's deliberately trying to confuse somebody for a

436
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:55.960
very specific reason, you see what
I'm saying. So it's not like God

437
00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:02.039
wrote the Bible in his message to
confuse everybody, like he wants people to

438
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:05.840
read it and to understand it.
Now, there are certain things that God

439
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:10.400
says he wants you to it's it
is it is for the what is the

440
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:15.840
glory of kings to research the matter
and the honor of the Lord to conceal

441
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:21.000
it or something like that. Yeah. So yeah, there are certain things

442
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:24.800
that he wants you to search out, but he doesn't want us to be

443
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:29.800
utterly baffled by this message. Right, I'm like, well, what does

444
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:32.599
this mean? Like, no,
that's what the enemy does. Yep.

445
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:40.119
So anyways, I wanted to before
we went forward. I wanted to put

446
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:45.480
a wrap on the previous chapter because
you wanted to make it clear that you

447
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:49.840
never tried to have these out of
body experiences. They were always initiated by

448
00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:54.079
God. Oh I'm sorry. Oh
no, no you could. Yeah yeah,

449
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:57.760
I'll just all ramble bros. No, I think you're a good Matt.

450
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:02.159
Yeah, so thank you for bringing
that up. He's actually a solid

451
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:08.199
point. Yeah, so make a
crystal clear. I've never wanted any of

452
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:13.159
this. I've never tried to do
any of this. I've never messed with

453
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:17.239
Aluiji board. I've never tried to
you know, I've never tried to summon

454
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:22.679
a spirit. I've never tried to
do any of that stuff. So all

455
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:25.280
this stuff here about remote viewing and
people messing with the spirits and people trying

456
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:29.599
to do this, that and the
other, and I've never wanted to do

457
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:36.079
any of that stuff. It just
happened to me, and Skippio actively he

458
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:38.159
made a really good point. I
was talking one time and he said,

459
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:44.360
you know, you might want to
look into your family history. And as

460
00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:49.079
soon as he said that, I
was like, dude, I've never even

461
00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:52.280
considered that. He's like, yeah, you might want to. He said

462
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:53.760
you might have some basins and something
going on in the damn tree, bro.

463
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:59.239
And I was like, you were
so right because he said kind of

464
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:01.119
the same thing with you're saying,
like, so you've never done this,

465
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:04.199
you never want to do this,
but all these things happened to you.

466
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:07.840
So it's almost like there's something attached
to my family. And I think there

467
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:15.920
is because of that photo Chapter ten. It's titled Chapter ins, titled the

468
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:21.400
Picture, and it's a picture of
my dad and my mom took it of

469
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:25.079
him back in like the early seventies
and they were in leven, Missouri,

470
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:30.679
and they were at a park endowing
you know, there were young Mary trouble

471
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:39.119
and she took a picture of him
in broad daylight and the polaroid shows what

472
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:44.400
looks like a bat, a hat
man or a hat man. Yeah,

473
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:50.800
it almost looks happened a bat too. Is that a battle or no,

474
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:55.119
it's so the pictures all blurred now
though. Okay, when I first thought,

475
00:37:55.320 --> 00:38:00.599
when I first saw it, when
I was like probably thirteen, it

476
00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:02.599
was hanging on the fridge. My
mom had a it was on the fridge

477
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:06.760
like with a magnet, and I
made a sandwich and I remember I looked

478
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:08.199
to my right and it caught my
eye and I was like, I'd never

479
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:12.760
seen the picture before. I walked
up to it, and you know,

480
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:16.519
having crystal clear vision my whole life, I looked at this picture and I'm

481
00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:21.199
like, what the frig? And
it was way more visible back then,

482
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:24.960
but blurred since then. But back
then it was you could you could see

483
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:30.599
it a lot better. But now
it's it's like if I could show it

484
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:34.199
to you now and you stood back
and looked at it, you could see

485
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:38.559
that it's it's actually a neck sticking
out of like a black Oh, I

486
00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:42.639
see it now, I see it
now. Okay, yeah, yeah,

487
00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:45.679
okay, I see. So those
two pointy things on the top, you

488
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:47.719
see the stew point of things.
Yellows are actually or horns. Yep,

489
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:51.960
he's got a brim hat and then
he's got you can see his nose and

490
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:54.360
it looks like he's looking right at
your dad. Yeah, I mean it

491
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:59.960
is. It's creepy, bro.
And my mom. My mom actually stole

492
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:01.760
the picture from me because I had
it. I had it in a book.

493
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:07.960
She snuck in my problem and she
took it well, and I was

494
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:08.559
like, well, I know you
took the pictures. She's like, I

495
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:12.639
don't know what you're talking about,
Like, moll, come on, because

496
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:14.480
I had told her. I was
like, I'm going to take this.

497
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:15.880
I'm going to go down to San
Diago State University. I'm going to have

498
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:21.000
him scan it when I haven't professionally
scan it with their equipment. And I

499
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:22.840
wanted to get all the three dimensional
properties all that stuff. And when I

500
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:25.800
told her that I should have never
folded, I told her that she gave

501
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:30.199
me this look and I was like
then me and my older brother Neil started

502
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:34.840
talking and then she stuck in my
room at my landlord's house and she stole

503
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:38.880
the picture and I got it back. I finally got it back to my

504
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:44.400
brother Neil, and I haven't now, but that's no doubt that's what that

505
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:47.280
is. Yeah, I can see
that now. But also you're putting all

506
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:51.960
caps that you wanted to make sure
that people knew that the first five out

507
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:57.760
of body experiences did happen in Lebanon, Missouri. Well not, the first

508
00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:01.119
five out of our experience is just
the first the first five jury. Oh,

509
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:05.800
I see, I see. I'm
sorry. Okay, okay, my

510
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:07.800
bad. Can we talk a little
bit about your brushes of death and how

511
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:15.320
it impacted your life? Yeah?
Absolutely, So we moved to Visa,

512
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:21.559
California. We had moved. We
had moved into a house on Eucalyptus Avenue,

513
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:28.079
which is like it's talked too far
from Escondido Avenue for all you locals

514
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:30.079
that lived here a long time now
it's told Civic Centered Drive, I believe,

515
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:37.559
and Vista. So we were living
on Eucalyptus and uh, I'm telling

516
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:39.039
you the enemy was trying to kill
me. Dude. I know he was

517
00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:45.320
because one of them, one of
them is where I hit my head like

518
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:49.000
really hard. I was playing like
a water balloon fight or something with my

519
00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:54.000
sisters and we had this steep driveway, like a short little driveway, and

520
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:58.760
I was backing up and there was
all water running on the driveway. I

521
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:01.440
was backed up and I split and
I was like, well when I hit

522
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:06.920
the back of my head on the
on the driveway, and my sisters ran

523
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:09.159
in and they were like mom,
Mom, Mom, And this is what

524
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:13.039
they told me. They're like,
mom, uh, you know, calls

525
00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:15.519
on moving, he's not moving.
And my mom went and got me and

526
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:20.159
she laid me down on the couch
and that's what you see. And she

527
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:22.880
laid me on the couch and she
said, I kept going in and out

528
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:29.719
of consciousness, and uh, I
think it's like part two maybe of Brushes

529
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:32.679
and Brushes of Death. Yep,
and uh, he lays me on the

530
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:37.920
couch and and that's one where it's
this hospital of horrors and twins on a

531
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:45.599
loop. So I go to this
hospital, dude. It was really Uh

532
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:50.079
it was interesting because when I went, there was a Radies Children's hospital.

533
00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:52.800
Back in the day. And this
is so long ago that it was when

534
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:57.599
gatorade. Gatorade was like three or
four flavors, the taste of like crap.

535
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:00.519
Yep, you had lemon orange and
the fruit punch. That was it.

536
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:05.519
Yeah, there you go. So
they had these ivs in my arm

537
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:07.159
and it would get so sore.
They would just press a button and nurse

538
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:12.039
come over and switch it to the
other arm. And so that went on

539
00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:15.440
for like three or four days,
and I couldn't really eat me. They

540
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:22.320
I had traumatic brain injury, and
they had twins, the movie Twins.

541
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:27.679
They had on a loop like it
just it would finish playing and it would

542
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:31.239
start all over like it was.
It was torture, dude. And and

543
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:37.880
while that was happening, I was
in a giant room with probably eight or

544
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:42.440
ten kids, I'm guessing, and
this one girl, man, oh gosh,

545
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:44.880
I feel so bad for it.
I don't know what was wrong with

546
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:51.840
her, but she would laugh.
She would laugh, like literally like the

547
00:42:51.960 --> 00:42:54.960
joker, like she would just laugh
and laugh and laugh until she would cry.

548
00:42:55.079 --> 00:43:00.400
And she would keep laughing like she
couldn't stop laughing, and she would

549
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:04.320
cry, and then she would pass
out and then she would wake up and

550
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:07.320
it would start all over again.
And so you know, this was like

551
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:13.760
three or four days of hell.
And so I don't remember anybody coming to

552
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:15.760
see me. I mean, my
mom might have, I don't know,

553
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:21.079
but I do remember towards the end
well, while I was there, I

554
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:25.559
remember praying for her because it was
it's interesting, like as horrible as a

555
00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:31.440
time I was having, I my
heart went out to this girl because she

556
00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:37.519
was I knew she was suffering.
It was it was horrible. I knew

557
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:42.880
she was she was tormented. She
was absolutely tormented. And it actually,

558
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:47.079
I write this in the book,
that when you focus on someone else,

559
00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:53.000
it actually helps you forget kind of
for a moment, what you're going through.

560
00:43:53.840 --> 00:44:00.000
And so I kind of, uh, all of a sudden what I'm

561
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:04.719
going through. Didn't seeing that bad
and considering her position, you know.

562
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:09.039
Yeah, And I was probably ten. I was probably like nine or ten,

563
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:15.039
and I was able to realize that
back then. I remember praying for

564
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:19.679
I was praying, asking me God, use your pain or whatever. And

565
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:23.599
then I think the next day,
maybe my mom comes down and the doctor

566
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:27.320
says, I'm The doctor and my
mom were staying at the front of my

567
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:30.039
bed, and I was, you
know, I was very attentive and listening

568
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:34.000
to every word they said. And
my mom was like, so is he

569
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:36.960
can be able to come home today? And the doctor was like, well,

570
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:38.679
I remember watching his mouth. He's
like, well, if he can

571
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:42.039
finish this burger, he can keep
it down, you can go. Oh.

572
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:45.840
It's like, well, mission,
that's you know, set. So

573
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:51.719
I remember thinking I'm like, I'm
gonna chew this until it's haste and then

574
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:54.079
I want to swallow it and I'm
getting out of here. And that's exactly

575
00:44:54.159 --> 00:45:00.480
what I did. And uh so
that changed me a lot, kind of

576
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:05.199
like kind of video game like.
It gave me a boost of maturity,

577
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:10.719
if you will, just that experience. And then there was another I was

578
00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:16.360
on a bicycle and I just had
a bright idea seeing how fast I can

579
00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:21.119
get how fast I could ride the
bicycle down the hill because I was like

580
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:22.920
scared to do it, and I
was like, no, I'm gonna do

581
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:27.639
this. I'm gonna talkor my piers. And there was a total blind turn

582
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:35.000
and there's the big tall trees on
either side of the intersection, so his

583
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:39.360
giant Like I guess it was a
residential private drive and it's this super steep

584
00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:47.239
hill that it actually passes through eucalyptus, and Eucalyptus was a decently active road

585
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:52.920
right and so I remember my pedal, pedal, pedal all the way down.

586
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:55.960
And as I was paddling, I
see this car coming to my left.

587
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:00.199
I was sick. Well, yeah, to commit now, So I

588
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:05.199
just kept battling and I pushed all
the way. I was lying down the

589
00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:08.840
cell. I flew through the through
the street that went, I crossed over

590
00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:14.679
Eclyptus, and as I did that
in this car, was like and uh,

591
00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:20.400
undoubted, they gave the guy an
heart attack, right, brought off

592
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:23.599
of them and uh so that was
out and I almost died there. And

593
00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:30.039
then uh, let's see what else
was it? Oh yeah, and then

594
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:36.880
uh the gang of guys that was
crazy. Man. We we went to

595
00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:40.159
church and my mama is she's so
awesome, Like she would she would go

596
00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:46.599
and find kids that were poor,
right, and uh like they she she

597
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:51.159
would she would find kids in the
neighborhood, in the community that couldn't go

598
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:52.960
to church, and she would offer
to take in the church. And we

599
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:57.719
had like this van and there were
six of us kids anyways, so my

600
00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:00.239
mom was just looked at it like, well, let's take a gag little

601
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:02.519
kids with me to church, right, I might as well add a few

602
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:07.519
more. We had these other Yeah, so we had these We had these

603
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:10.559
other kids. And on the way
home from church, I think my siblings

604
00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:16.480
rowly you know, pester me and
uh And because I was, like I

605
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:22.679
said earlier, trying to deal with
all these emotions and this supernatural stuff going

606
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:25.000
on in my life. You know, I didn't know how to deal with

607
00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:30.000
it all. So I would get
frustrated, right, and so I couldn't

608
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:32.000
explain myself because I was so young, and no one would listen to me

609
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:38.000
anyways, So you can imagine the
frustration. So I would when I would

610
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:43.079
get super frustrated, they would keep
pestering me, and I would bite my

611
00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:47.760
arm right like, it's kind of
funny, but at the same time,

612
00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:53.599
it's not right because you got to
figure if the kids doing that to himself,

613
00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:57.440
there's obviously something wrong, right,
right, right, there's something deeper

614
00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:00.679
to that. Yeah, and uh, nobody ever tried to figure it out.

615
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:06.400
And my siblings kind of had fun
with it, and they would kind

616
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:09.800
of pester me, and so something
like that I think was happening. And

617
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:14.440
we're in the van and I started
getting kicked off and I said something.

618
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:16.880
I might have yelled or I might
have rose my voice or whatever. And

619
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:21.719
my mom did she she didn't,
she didn't play game. She did not

620
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:25.440
mess around. So coming from Missouri, like you would get spanked. It

621
00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:29.079
didn't matter where you were. You
could be in the grocery store, you

622
00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:34.599
could be in church, you could
be at school, matter. My mom

623
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:37.079
would just spank you right there,
like if you were disobeying or being a

624
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:43.079
little stink, she would just thank
you and not like a little little swat,

625
00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:46.920
like she would grab you and just
start smacking your butt hard and you

626
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:52.079
know, leave a sting and you'd
cry and you would stop doing it.

627
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:58.920
And so she pulled off real quick
into it. It was a back then.

628
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:04.039
It was a big parking lot,
and there was a Vista library and

629
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:09.639
uh there was like a tennis courts
up above. And now it's like now

630
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:15.039
it's the Civic Center and now it's
all different. But back then there was

631
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:19.199
a giant dirt lot. And she
pulled off and she opened the door.

632
00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:22.920
She said get out. She said, we're not We're not putting up with

633
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:25.079
your attitude or something like that.
She's like, you're gonna go cool off.

634
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:29.880
You're gonna go cool off at the
park. And I was like,

635
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:36.360
what, it's like nine years old, and I might have been ten.

636
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:40.119
I was either nine or ten,
and and I wanted to statement case.

637
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:43.400
I wanted to, like, you
know, I wanted to defend myself,

638
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:45.960
like, hey, they were you
know, they were fighting two and I'm

639
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:49.320
not the only guilty one. Here. She's like, she said, if

640
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:52.280
you go home, I'm going to
thank you. So go sit at the

641
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:54.039
park and think, well, what
you did or whatever. I started crying.

642
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:59.280
I went up to the park.
I saturdneath the tree, and I

643
00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:01.679
was little ticked off off, you
know, feeling sorry for myself. And

644
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:06.400
all of a sudden, I hear
this gang of guys. There was probably

645
00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:12.639
five seven dudes, and these guys
were like sixteen eighteen, like older.

646
00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:20.400
And I remember I started getting scared
because here I am sitting at this park,

647
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:23.920
you know, where gang members and
whoever else goes through. And I'm

648
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:29.880
sitting in my Sunday's best with like
nice shorts and a nice shirt. I'll

649
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:32.760
sit under a tree all over himself, crying like the little sissy, La

650
00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:37.599
la. And then and I hear
these guys and then I hear one of

651
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:39.199
them say hey. Then and they
say something. I look over and I'm

652
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:43.800
like oh, And I was like
frozen and beer like. I was thinking

653
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:45.960
to if I get up and take
off, they're going to beat the crappa,

654
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:49.119
right, which is what I should
have done. I should have taken

655
00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:52.440
off, but I stayed there,
and all of a sudden, next thing,

656
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:57.480
I know this rock. One of
the guys threw a rock and did

657
00:50:57.480 --> 00:51:00.599
be right in my side. And
it was a little bit smaller than a

658
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:07.440
tennis ball, bigger than a golf
ball. I mean, this thing hit

659
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:09.039
me right in my ribs. It
felt like somebody kicked me in my rib

660
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:14.360
and I immediately I was like uh, and I just started crying. I

661
00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:19.159
kind of like bent over and I
was like holding my side and they all

662
00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:22.760
walked up and they surrounded me.
They all surrounded me and talking trash,

663
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:24.159
call me a little baggot, this
and that, you know, like,

664
00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:28.880
uh, it was terrifying, bro, Like I thought these guys were gonna

665
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:35.159
kill me or beat me up or
you know whatever. So I remember the

666
00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:37.079
leader he was looking at me like
they were making fun of me. For

667
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:40.400
ten seconds, I long, and
the leader with some older Mexican dude,

668
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:45.239
he might he had to have been
like sixteen or eighteen, and he looked

669
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:46.840
at me and was like hey,
He's like, what are you doing here?

670
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:51.199
Oh by yourself? And then he
looked up out on them all crying,

671
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:54.559
and I like, I remember I
because it kind of knocked the air,

672
00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:58.039
knocked the wind out of me.
So I looked up, I was

673
00:51:58.079 --> 00:52:01.320
like my family left me here,
and you could tell that they all kind

674
00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:06.400
of started to get quiet. They
they were like, oh, this poor

675
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:08.360
guy. You know, they felt
bad. I kept living. Yeah,

676
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:13.119
a couple of them kept making fun
like saying something like oh, poor baby,

677
00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:17.239
or right, and then I could
tell just on his face, I

678
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:22.079
can tell he looked at me and
he was like, oh, He's like,

679
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:23.239
why don't you get the bleep out
of here? Like I don't put

680
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:24.960
that in the book, I said. He just says, why don't you

681
00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:28.480
to get out of here? He's
like, why don't you get that out

682
00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:32.320
of here? Like he basically took
it easy on me. And so I

683
00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:36.840
remember I just got up and I
was in pain, and I remember I

684
00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:38.239
was like I just got to go. It's like I pushed my weight through

685
00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:42.280
him. And they all kept making
fun of me and clowning on me,

686
00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:46.480
and and uh So I walked all
the way home and I'm so mad at

687
00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:52.119
my mom and my siblings, and
I was just sobbing the whole way home.

688
00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:54.920
And that was one of those times, you know, just uh,

689
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:00.320
I can't think of the other time
I having a brain for it, right,

690
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:05.840
no no worries. But the other
thing that I wanted to get to

691
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:09.199
because it was one of the more
interesting things that piqued my interest. Is

692
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:14.800
you talked about you moved to one
house that had a pentagram on it,

693
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:19.880
and then you moved to an apartment
I think it was Breezewood or Breeze Hill,

694
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:25.480
and you had a really interesting experience
where you think that you saw the

695
00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:30.920
what was it the Angel from the
Garden of Eden. Yeah, that's uh,

696
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:37.760
yeah, that was I was intense, man, real real intent.

697
00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:43.960
So the yeah, the the one
on Rolling Hills Road. That's the lord

698
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:46.719
of the pentagram. The guy who
owned the house with a real piece of

699
00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:52.239
work this day brought a piece of
trash. He he would literally walk into

700
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:57.239
her house undernounced, and he would
bring his wife with him, and she

701
00:53:57.239 --> 00:54:02.079
would always look down on the ground. You know, I'm going to keep

702
00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:06.920
myself from saying stuff because I don't
want to. I don't want people to

703
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:15.920
write. So he let's just say
he was culturally different and his wife never

704
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:17.639
said a word. He never looked
at us. But I remember thinking there

705
00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:22.119
was something weird going on there.
And this guy, dude, this guy,

706
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:25.719
he uh, he had no compassion, He had no empathy. And

707
00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:30.719
he would always, you know,
demand money and this and that it wouldn't

708
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:36.800
fix anything, just your typical slumlord. And so but this house and we

709
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:38.679
moved in, this house had a
pentagram painted on one of the walls.

710
00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:45.360
So one night I was sleeping in
our in my bed and uh I had

711
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:53.199
to share the I had to share
the bedroom with my two sisters. And

712
00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:59.280
uh I had just recently gotten back
from fifth grade camp. And for fifth

713
00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:02.719
grade camp we all with Almar Mountain
and while there we all got to do

714
00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:07.400
certain things. And one of the
things we got to do is they let

715
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:13.119
us brand our own leather. So
we would cut out, uh we'd cut

716
00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:17.000
out an arrowhead shape out of this
patch of leather right, and we would

717
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:22.039
take this arrow leather arrowhead and we
would stamp it like a hot iron.

718
00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:25.199
We got to stand you choose the
different symbols, and we stamped at a

719
00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:30.400
bunch of time, branded it a
bunch of times, and then we braided

720
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:35.480
our French braided that the strand or
the necklace part of it. And so

721
00:55:35.639 --> 00:55:42.440
it was a green and yellow necklace
with a leather arrowhead on it. And

722
00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:47.199
this necklace was sitting on top of
a wicker basket that was at the foot

723
00:55:47.239 --> 00:55:52.000
of my bet. So this one
night, I was asleep in my bed

724
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:55.239
and then I just remember waking up
in my dream having an out body experience

725
00:55:55.280 --> 00:56:01.960
again, and it was really weird, like the room was kind of lit

726
00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:08.400
up by moonlight, and I remember
feeling this really strange feeling in my chest,

727
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:15.519
like almost like a like a vortec, almost like a you unplugged the

728
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:20.639
sink and the water goes down.
So I started feeling this whirling in my

729
00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:25.280
chest. And then there was like
a face to my left. So I'm

730
00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:30.239
hovering above my face on my chest
or whatever, and I can tell there's

731
00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:31.519
a face to my left, but
I can't look at it. Do you

732
00:56:31.519 --> 00:56:34.840
ever get that in your dream where
you can't look at something? Sure?

733
00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:38.360
Yeah, almost like a sleep analysis. Yeah, I guess it was.

734
00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:45.920
But there was a face and he
was like I called him the instigator because

735
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:51.719
he was clearly like instigating this the
situation. Who was trying to he was

736
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:55.280
goading me, trying to getting me
to I don't know, I guess tap

737
00:56:55.280 --> 00:57:00.480
into something that I can do.
I'm not really sure. I've never I've

738
00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:02.559
never tried to do it. I've
never tried to do it again. But

739
00:57:04.519 --> 00:57:10.800
I'm certain of this that I was
moving the necklace with my I don't know

740
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:14.559
what you would call it, my
inter cheet or something. I don't know,

741
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:19.239
but I could feel this tirling in
my chest. And then I looked,

742
00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:23.039
and I remember looking. I looked
up and I could see my feet,

743
00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:28.079
and I remember seeing the necklace started. I could see it twirling up

744
00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:30.880
in the air, and it slowly
raised up in the air, and I

745
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:34.760
saw it twirling up in the air, probably about I don't know, a

746
00:57:34.840 --> 00:57:38.400
couple of feet or something above the
wicker basket, and I realized I was

747
00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:43.280
doing it. And the face to
my left was like, you can do

748
00:57:43.360 --> 00:57:45.119
it, calling you could do it. He was like like, you know,

749
00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:50.519
like chair beyond. Sure, And
it freaked me out, and I

750
00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:52.400
woke I woke up, and I
was like, well, and I got

751
00:57:52.440 --> 00:57:54.719
real scared because I knew what was
going on, and I knew there was

752
00:57:54.760 --> 00:58:00.800
something in the room that was,
you know, chaired beyond, and I

753
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:05.320
knew immediately what it was. I
was like, that's not God. This

754
00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:08.119
is whatever the says is evil.
And I jumped out of my bed and

755
00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:12.079
I ran to my mom and I
slept in the bed with my mom and

756
00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:20.039
my dad, and yeah, it
was creepy bro So then years later at

757
00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:23.519
Breeze Hill, I had to share
a bed with my brother West. He's

758
00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:28.480
now dead. I was shared a
bed of the West. Same thing.

759
00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:32.719
I just wake up and I was
sleeping in bed and I was I would

760
00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:37.239
always have to take the inside right
because he was older and bigger, so

761
00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:39.400
he got to sleep on the outside
of the fleet bed and I was up

762
00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:45.320
against the wall, and I just
sure he waked up in my dream and

763
00:58:45.719 --> 00:58:50.760
I was in some field. I
was like in this big open field,

764
00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:53.880
and I could tell I was up
in the air, probably I don't know,

765
00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:58.360
ten feet in the air I was. I was clearly hovering. I

766
00:58:58.400 --> 00:59:04.519
wasn't standing because I was because of
how high I was. And this was

767
00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:12.320
really crazy. So I just remember
I remember seeing it was so vast.

768
00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:15.400
I could see like the horizon,
I could see mountains way off in the

769
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:22.239
distance, and I could tell wherever
we were was elevated. It was pretty

770
00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:25.039
high up. I don't know how
high it was, but it definitely wasn't

771
00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:30.360
sea level is. I could tell
like there was either a drop off or

772
00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:35.079
a cliff or something. I don't
know, but I want to say probably

773
00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:37.960
one hundred yards in front of me
was nothing but like grass and flowers and

774
00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:42.960
stuff. There was some trees,
and then past that it seemed to be

775
00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:45.440
like a drop off maybe or a
hill. I'm not really sure, but

776
00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:51.800
I could see really far out.
I'm talking it must have been thousands of

777
00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:54.199
miles, hundreds, if not thousands
of miles. I could see way off

778
00:59:54.239 --> 00:59:59.000
into the distance. It was an
amazing view. It would have been something

779
00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:00.599
that like, if you were a
millionaire, you would build your house here

780
01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:04.559
and you would have, you know, the view of a lifetime. It

781
01:00:04.639 --> 01:00:08.679
was something like that. And so, but then as I was observing this,

782
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:14.360
something caught my eye. Looked over
to my left and I see this

783
01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:20.400
dude and this woman probably i'm guessing
fifty yards away. They were butt naked,

784
01:00:21.320 --> 01:00:23.239
and the guy was doing something.
I couldn't tell what he was doing.

785
01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:29.320
He was like it look like he
was rummaging or doing something. And

786
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:32.920
this chick was standing behind him just
kind of like almost like a child.

787
01:00:34.159 --> 01:00:36.880
She was standing there just kind of
like waiting for him to do something.

788
01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:42.400
And she was just standing behind him
by how many feet? And then I

789
01:00:42.599 --> 01:00:49.440
see this black figure like it looked
like it was in a robe or something.

790
01:00:49.599 --> 01:00:52.519
It was just all black, and
it looked like it was shuffling or

791
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:58.039
like waddling, or like walking up
the Eve. I'm assuming it was Eve.

792
01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:01.559
It was walking up behind her.
It wasn't a snake, but what

793
01:01:01.639 --> 01:01:05.760
I could tell it to me,
it looked like, uh, maybe a

794
01:01:05.800 --> 01:01:08.679
person wearing a robe or something.
But it was shorter than Eve was.

795
01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:15.000
And as soon as I saw that, then all of a sudden, my

796
01:01:15.239 --> 01:01:21.519
entire view this this this face shot
up in front of me, almost like

797
01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:23.639
it came up to me and shot
and stood up, or like, I

798
01:01:23.639 --> 01:01:25.440
don't know, jumped up in front
of me. I don't know what it

799
01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:31.159
was, but this face had this
face it uh, it was like light

800
01:01:31.199 --> 01:01:38.119
blue and white. It didn't seem
evil. It just seemed extremely powerful.

801
01:01:38.719 --> 01:01:44.519
And it uh, it had these
eyes that shot straight through me. I

802
01:01:44.559 --> 01:01:47.719
mean, I'm talking. It looked
right into my eyes and it shot like

803
01:01:49.079 --> 01:01:52.960
in the book I put. It
shot through my spirit, passed my soul

804
01:01:53.599 --> 01:01:58.840
and into my body, and it
sandwiched all three together, and I woke

805
01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:01.760
up like a mouse trapped dude.
I mean, I'm I woke up gasping

806
01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:07.000
for air. It literally took my
breath away from a dead sleep. That's

807
01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:10.960
how that's how much this scared me. I mean, it scared the crap

808
01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:15.320
out of me. It scared me
way more than you know, the thing

809
01:02:15.719 --> 01:02:19.920
trying to get me to twirl the
necklace or whatever. Like. Whatever this

810
01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:23.440
thing was, I could tell it
was extremely powerful, but I didn't get

811
01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:27.719
the sense that it was evil.
I just got the sense like it wanted

812
01:02:27.719 --> 01:02:31.880
to be out of there and it
wouldn't be gone now. And and so

813
01:02:32.039 --> 01:02:37.159
in the in the book, I
say that I'm pretty sure it was the

814
01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:40.840
angel. I think it was an
angel that God put to protect the garden.

815
01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:46.719
And you know it. So when
people talk about the Bible, they

816
01:02:46.760 --> 01:02:52.239
say, you know that I saw
an angel and I fell down dead and

817
01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:54.039
I was weak, I couldn't get
up. I get it. I understand

818
01:02:54.079 --> 01:02:58.000
what you're saying, Like when you
see when I saw this thing, it

819
01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:00.960
was there. There is no fire, there's no you're not going to do

820
01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:06.760
it, like this thing could utterly
destroy you. And so that's why angels

821
01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:08.199
are always saying, do not be
afraid. Like they have to tell you

822
01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:10.280
over and over, like calm down, it's okay, I'm not going to

823
01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:16.519
kill you. That's what this was. I know it was because it and

824
01:03:16.599 --> 01:03:23.159
I told this. I had a
conversation again with Scipio, and I talked

825
01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:30.320
to him sometimes about some stuff because
I refect him so much, and he's

826
01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:32.400
an amazing dude. He's so smart
and he knows the virus so well,

827
01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:40.239
and he thought it's pretty interesting.
But yeah, I go on to talk

828
01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:46.719
about it made me ponder this figure
in the black robe, and I made

829
01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:52.079
sure to state that I'm not saying
I know for sure what it was,

830
01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:58.880
but at the same time, it
definitely was not an ache. And my

831
01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:02.440
own conjecture, my own belief is
I think there's a little bit of truth

832
01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:09.599
to the whole reptilian thing. Now
I don't think I don't think it's what

833
01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:17.480
David Ike says, but it definitely
seems to me that. So when you

834
01:04:17.559 --> 01:04:24.119
read Genesis, I think it's Genesis
chapter three, and I go into it

835
01:04:24.159 --> 01:04:29.679
when you go to When you read
chapter three, in my opinion, God

836
01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:34.039
is clearly talking to a creature.
So everyone assumes that he's talking to the

837
01:04:34.119 --> 01:04:38.320
devil. I don't think he is. When you read it, read it

838
01:04:38.360 --> 01:04:41.639
again, going to Genesis and read
from King James or New King James or

839
01:04:41.639 --> 01:04:46.239
whatever. He's saying that he's going
to curse this thing. You're cursed above

840
01:04:46.280 --> 01:04:51.000
all, cattle above all. In
other words, he's comparing it to its

841
01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:58.920
own kingdom. So, but what
I think it is, this is my

842
01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:02.880
own belief. I think whatever this
thing was that I say, it's possibly

843
01:05:02.920 --> 01:05:09.400
that it was the basilist, and
the bascialist the basilist is like a folklore.

844
01:05:09.480 --> 01:05:12.760
Like people say it existed, people
say it didn't. I think it

845
01:05:12.800 --> 01:05:16.679
did. I think it existed,
And I think this thing was a special

846
01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:21.480
creature, just like Lebiathan. Lebiathan
was part of the Reptilian kingdom, and

847
01:05:21.519 --> 01:05:26.760
I think this thing was part of
the Reptilian kingdom. And both things are

848
01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:32.679
subjugated under the dominion of Lucifer.
I think Lucifer was the arch angel that

849
01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:38.360
was in charge of the Reptilian kingdom, because you got the you get the

850
01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:43.920
four special angels, the four arch
angels in heaven. One looks like an

851
01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:46.079
oxen, one looks like an eagle, one looks like you see what I'm

852
01:05:46.079 --> 01:05:54.559
saying, yep. So each arch
angel is responsible for a certain like a

853
01:05:54.719 --> 01:06:00.679
section of creation, and I think
Lucifer was in charge of the Reptilians or

854
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:06.000
reptile kingdom. And there's also a
Jewish name. I believe it's the Seraphig.

855
01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:13.960
I think it's the serapheme is the
fire serpent like that. So,

856
01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:20.480
and I believe that when it's talking
about the seed and he says, your

857
01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:29.800
seed will be at enmity with the
womans, I believe that we're talking about

858
01:06:29.800 --> 01:06:34.360
the seed. I think the seed
is some kind of a hybrid freak or

859
01:06:34.440 --> 01:06:39.320
whatever from whatever this thing was.
Whatever this thing was, it had the

860
01:06:39.360 --> 01:06:45.440
ability to talk to Eve, had
the ability to the guile Eve right now,

861
01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:50.159
if that means that it hypnotizer or
I don't know what that means.

862
01:06:50.639 --> 01:06:58.239
But apparently the Bassilist, the Basilist
had the ability to hypnotize people. And

863
01:06:59.320 --> 01:07:05.800
it's supposedly had yellow eyes just like
Leviathan did. So the more you dig

864
01:07:05.840 --> 01:07:10.760
into this stuff, I'm telling you
there's something here. There's something to it,

865
01:07:11.599 --> 01:07:16.599
and I can't prove it. But
but Skipio made a good point.

866
01:07:16.599 --> 01:07:20.800
He said, just you know,
just make sure you don't let your you

867
01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:27.119
know, supernatural experiences out about experiences
or whatever that. Don't let that dictate

868
01:07:27.239 --> 01:07:30.519
how you understand and perceive the Bible. I was like, no, absolutely,

869
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:34.199
you are. You're a Herbsteak corrent. So my mom always told me

870
01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:40.719
to no matter what it is,
compared it to the Bible and just go

871
01:07:40.840 --> 01:07:45.000
from there. So yeah, that
Garden of Eden, I'm telling you,

872
01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:48.719
bro, that was crazy. This
was one of the craziest things I've ever

873
01:07:48.800 --> 01:07:54.679
experienced. That's intense. Oh,
it was super intense, really intense.

874
01:07:55.599 --> 01:07:59.960
When you're writing this book, obviously
you're bringing up some old memories of things

875
01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:05.400
that caused you difficult times, and
it kind of brought up some you know,

876
01:08:05.679 --> 01:08:10.000
I know a lot of the things
me personally that I've buried back in

877
01:08:10.039 --> 01:08:12.840
the head. And that's one of
the reasons that I've mentioned before when I

878
01:08:12.840 --> 01:08:15.760
write some of the you know,
when i'm writing, when I bring some

879
01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:18.680
of these stories up, you know, you got to kind of go for

880
01:08:18.720 --> 01:08:21.760
a walk, and because it does
kind of rip the band aid off these

881
01:08:21.800 --> 01:08:27.439
old wounds. And I'm sure you
know Chapter thirteen was dedicated to your brother,

882
01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:31.640
John Wesley Wright, and you know, after that incident, you started

883
01:08:31.680 --> 01:08:38.079
going through a lot. You were
being expelled from schools and just kind of,

884
01:08:38.119 --> 01:08:44.239
you know, explain to the audience
how that really changed you Yeah,

885
01:08:43.079 --> 01:08:50.960
it definitely so. Like I said
earlier, I've had a lot of trauma.

886
01:08:51.079 --> 01:08:56.159
But God Jesus has been with me
the whole time. He's given me

887
01:08:56.279 --> 01:09:02.000
the ability to mentally handle it,
you know. Uh, He's allowed me

888
01:09:02.119 --> 01:09:11.560
to weather the storm, so to
speak. And and yeah, being expelled

889
01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:15.720
from the schools, that was,
that was pretty rough. That was another

890
01:09:15.720 --> 01:09:21.359
time where I almost died. I
was drunk and that's the one where I

891
01:09:21.399 --> 01:09:24.640
was going to fight that kid and
he was gonna stab me. He would

892
01:09:24.680 --> 01:09:28.680
have he would have killed me for
sure. And my friend actually saved my

893
01:09:28.720 --> 01:09:35.359
life. And that was shortly after
That was shortly after West died, and

894
01:09:35.399 --> 01:09:41.760
that would have absolutely that would have
crushed and crippled my family. There's no

895
01:09:41.800 --> 01:09:47.520
doubt about it. The death of
West. Really it really shook my mom

896
01:09:47.520 --> 01:09:55.439
and she had a hard time,
you know, am. And if I

897
01:09:55.479 --> 01:09:59.119
had died that night that I had, I can't imagine what would have happened.

898
01:09:59.840 --> 01:10:04.840
I but yeah, it was.
My life has been very difficult.

899
01:10:05.079 --> 01:10:15.079
It's been very very unusual, very
unique. And I give all credit to

900
01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:20.439
Jesus Christ. Like without Jesus in
my life, I probably would have killed

901
01:10:20.439 --> 01:10:26.159
myself or I probably would have overdosed
on drugs or I probably would have you

902
01:10:26.199 --> 01:10:31.199
know, any number of things,
because there's at least three or four times

903
01:10:31.199 --> 01:10:35.600
that I should have died, like
the car wreck, Like there's there's at

904
01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:44.760
least two times where where time literally
slowed down. And at the time when

905
01:10:44.760 --> 01:10:49.159
I was in the car and my
buddy Jason Hymes, he was driving,

906
01:10:49.199 --> 01:10:53.840
and we would get on the freeway
and I had no seatbell on. I

907
01:10:53.880 --> 01:10:57.800
was in the back seat in an
old I think buick, and his girlfriend

908
01:10:57.920 --> 01:11:01.279
Candace was set up front of the
passenger and we're getting on the three way

909
01:11:01.560 --> 01:11:06.239
five going north and we're coming up
on the Lost Flora's exit and I just

910
01:11:06.279 --> 01:11:09.760
happened to look, and it was
at nighttime. It was probably seven or

911
01:11:09.760 --> 01:11:13.760
eight o'clock at night, and I
see this white band in the slow land,

912
01:11:14.119 --> 01:11:16.880
like not moving. It was part
no Hazard's on, no lights on

913
01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:20.720
or nothing. And I see this
and I'm like Jason, and I point

914
01:11:20.760 --> 01:11:25.960
at it and he slams on the
brakes and he's like, sixteen, right,

915
01:11:26.079 --> 01:11:29.600
we're just leaving Bible group at the
beach. We had like a Bible

916
01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:38.800
group in girls bed and so we're
sixteen, dude, and maybe seventeen.

917
01:11:39.239 --> 01:11:43.840
But yeah, I should have died
like it had I. So he slams

918
01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:48.119
on the brakes and as he's the
car locks up and it's like right,

919
01:11:48.199 --> 01:11:53.520
and so the ice can. I
can still see it, like the car

920
01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:59.199
slowly going and just time just slows
down, and I see out the window

921
01:11:59.239 --> 01:12:02.199
I've watching this white band just slowly
passed fire or right, and then all

922
01:12:02.199 --> 01:12:05.159
of a sudden, in the right
side or my ear, like in my

923
01:12:05.239 --> 01:12:12.640
head, I hear this just very
direct, very stern voice, and get

924
01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:15.359
down, like it was a direct
order. And as soon as I heard

925
01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:18.600
that, I was like, I
laid as flat as a board. I

926
01:12:18.760 --> 01:12:21.439
laid down the back seat. It's
flat as a board, bro. And

927
01:12:21.520 --> 01:12:26.319
as soon as I did that,
boom, crash, bang bang, like

928
01:12:26.880 --> 01:12:30.960
we pen bawled across like three lanes
on the freeway. So what's crazy is

929
01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:33.560
that I didn't even get hurt.
Like I hit the top of my head

930
01:12:34.079 --> 01:12:38.960
on the on the back door on
the right, the right door in the

931
01:12:39.119 --> 01:12:42.479
hind passenger. I hit the top
of my head, but I could feel

932
01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:48.359
my body elevate and get bounced back
and forth of the upholstery. It was

933
01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:55.560
creasy, dude. It was insane
and Jason actually whacked his head really hard,

934
01:12:56.239 --> 01:12:59.760
and so did Candace. And I
remember we came to the stop.

935
01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:03.560
I could they're semi behind us,
and its headlights are blaring through the back

936
01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:08.760
window. The back the window was
all busted out and the glasses all over

937
01:13:09.079 --> 01:13:13.800
all over me, and inside the
car, hear people honking their horns and

938
01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:16.239
Jason and Candas were like holding their
head and stuff. And I remember I

939
01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:19.119
rose up and I could tell I
wasn't hurt. I looked at Jason in

940
01:13:19.119 --> 01:13:23.960
the back and said, and I
could see the blood just gushing out of

941
01:13:23.960 --> 01:13:28.000
the back of the bed, and
I had the presence of mind. I

942
01:13:28.119 --> 01:13:30.359
knew immediately what to do, and
I was like Jason and I just stayed

943
01:13:30.359 --> 01:13:32.920
calm. I was like Jason,
I took his left hand. I was

944
01:13:32.960 --> 01:13:35.399
like, I want you to put
pressure right here, as hard as you

945
01:13:35.479 --> 01:13:42.199
can. So he put pressure right
on the wound and then he started crying,

946
01:13:42.279 --> 01:13:45.199
you know, and you know I
understand because he didn't want to die.

947
01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:47.399
And uh, I told him I
got to get canvas out, I'll

948
01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:50.399
be right back, and when I
come back for he he kept calling for

949
01:13:50.479 --> 01:13:54.000
me, and I remember I got
out of the car and got her out,

950
01:13:54.039 --> 01:13:58.279
walked her over, and that's when
the cop walked up. We were

951
01:13:58.279 --> 01:14:00.560
all three of us on the side
of the shoulder and I see the really

952
01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:03.960
tightly rolled wad of twenties and I
went to go pick it up, and

953
01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:09.359
this cop walked up and stepped on
it. Bro He stepped up and picked

954
01:14:09.359 --> 01:14:12.359
it up and looked at it just
so like, you know, let me

955
01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:17.760
know. And they walked up.
I heard, Oh, my goodness,

956
01:14:17.760 --> 01:14:21.479
that is Yeah, that's that's what
I mean. My life is just full

957
01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:25.680
of stuff like that. And people
look at me like, oh sure,

958
01:14:25.720 --> 01:14:29.279
Bud, I'm like, no,
for real, like that that's all that

959
01:14:29.359 --> 01:14:31.760
happened to me. Yeah, you
know, sorry, go ahead, go

960
01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:35.520
ahead him go ahead. No,
no, go right ahead. I'll just

961
01:14:35.560 --> 01:14:43.039
to say so, you know,
like the other time times slowed down.

962
01:14:43.039 --> 01:14:46.319
I was at the the Hooya Indian
Reservation and that's why I fell on the

963
01:14:46.319 --> 01:14:50.439
fire. And this fire had been
going for like two days. I mean,

964
01:14:50.479 --> 01:14:55.960
this site was hot. It had
probably at least a foot of red

965
01:14:55.960 --> 01:15:00.239
embers like coals. It was a
big old fire the custom made with like

966
01:15:00.359 --> 01:15:04.840
boulders and stuff from around the campsite, and this was it had all kinds

967
01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:10.840
of logs and fired. It was
crazy broke, and Roach poked me in

968
01:15:10.840 --> 01:15:14.239
the butt with a stick because it
was cold. Yeah, literally at the

969
01:15:14.239 --> 01:15:16.760
picture right right now that you drew. Yeah, I had my I had

970
01:15:16.800 --> 01:15:20.640
my back to the fire and just
freezing. And luckily I was wearing like

971
01:15:20.760 --> 01:15:25.800
pants, and I had a polyester
jacket that Leah shout out to the older

972
01:15:25.800 --> 01:15:29.439
such Leah, she got me this
jacket like a thrift store and had a

973
01:15:29.479 --> 01:15:33.439
polyester coating on it and it said
Burt. I called it my Burt jacket.

974
01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:38.079
So I was rocking my bird jacket. I had really long hair,

975
01:15:38.119 --> 01:15:42.159
like a hippie almost, and I
had a hat on, so I luckily

976
01:15:42.159 --> 01:15:44.560
I had a hat on that had
my hair tucked back, and I had

977
01:15:44.600 --> 01:15:46.920
my hat on. So when he
poked me in the butt, I turned

978
01:15:46.920 --> 01:15:49.520
to my left. I was like, you bastard, and I went to

979
01:15:49.600 --> 01:15:55.479
kick him. So I kicked him
my right. But the fire, the

980
01:15:55.479 --> 01:16:00.800
fire pit was at like a slight
incline, so I was actual standing on

981
01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:03.840
a little bit of a slope and
it had loose, loose dirt, and

982
01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:08.720
so when I went to kickle with
my right, my left foot's all and

983
01:16:08.800 --> 01:16:12.880
it fell out and Dude, as
soon as our left foot slipped out time

984
01:16:13.039 --> 01:16:17.800
again at times like slowed down like
the main Remember yes, literally, Bro,

985
01:16:18.279 --> 01:16:23.119
And I remember thinking like one thousand
miles an hour. I remember saying

986
01:16:23.319 --> 01:16:25.439
like, well, if you do
this, this is what's gonna happen.

987
01:16:25.840 --> 01:16:29.720
And I remember coming to my mind. I remember thinking the best option is

988
01:16:29.760 --> 01:16:32.720
to take a breath. It's gonna
hurt, you know. Basically, if

989
01:16:32.760 --> 01:16:38.039
you don't want to get surgery burns
and lose your arm or lose your hand

990
01:16:38.079 --> 01:16:42.239
and lose part of your face,
take a breath, hitch your side on

991
01:16:42.319 --> 01:16:46.720
the wood of the fire or the
rocks or something, and then that'll give

992
01:16:46.760 --> 01:16:50.479
you cushion and I can basically want
to blow out the air. I'll be

993
01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:54.800
able to bounce off from that.
I'll bounce off and roll off the fire.

994
01:16:55.239 --> 01:16:59.640
That's exactly what I did. And
Bro, I stood up and everyone's

995
01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:02.520
like, oh my god, my
buddy. Ellie was like, dude,

996
01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:08.119
you just pull some neo easily pulled
some neo bleep, And I was standing

997
01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:11.159
in my on my right side,
my right side was no, this is

998
01:17:11.199 --> 01:17:16.039
my left side is My left side
was all jack And I'm pretty sure I

999
01:17:16.079 --> 01:17:20.800
either cracked the rib possibly or I
did something. I hurt myself pretty bad,

1000
01:17:21.439 --> 01:17:26.760
but uh, I saved my hand, I'd saved my face. And

1001
01:17:27.319 --> 01:17:30.000
it was crazy. It was like
everything I thought to do is exactly what

1002
01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:33.439
I needed to do, and I
did it in a matter of probably a

1003
01:17:33.479 --> 01:17:40.520
second, but it seemed to take
like four seconds. It was. It

1004
01:17:40.600 --> 01:17:44.560
was very bizarre. It was like
and they said that when I hit the

1005
01:17:44.600 --> 01:17:49.600
fire. They said that I made
like a like a really loud like air

1006
01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:56.880
was leaving my body like really forcefully, and my throat was really sore for

1007
01:17:57.000 --> 01:18:00.199
like a whole day because all that
air got shoved out of my lungs.

1008
01:18:01.840 --> 01:18:06.560
I probably almost collapsed along, honestly, because I landed on my ribcage cheez,

1009
01:18:06.960 --> 01:18:10.640
and it allowed me to bounce off
of it, just like I thought

1010
01:18:10.640 --> 01:18:16.279
I was gonna do. It's crazy, that is insane. So yeah,

1011
01:18:16.319 --> 01:18:21.119
And the whole left side of my
face was like like a like an old

1012
01:18:21.159 --> 01:18:28.239
man, like a bald dude's head, like it was super smooth, look

1013
01:18:28.279 --> 01:18:32.720
at baby, But my eyebrow was
sinned. My my sideburns were gone,

1014
01:18:33.279 --> 01:18:39.399
like just being over the fire for
half a second that that fast, and

1015
01:18:39.439 --> 01:18:43.760
my my jacket got melted. My
hat got melted a little bit. It

1016
01:18:43.840 --> 01:18:46.239
was crazy. Yeah, yeah,
and get and get getting those type of

1017
01:18:46.239 --> 01:18:50.960
burns or are life altering that the
graphs and just the years of of healing

1018
01:18:50.960 --> 01:18:54.800
with all this stuff. So you're
you were certainly blessed that that God was

1019
01:18:54.800 --> 01:18:59.119
looking out for you that day A
hun percent. I wanted to cover one

1020
01:18:59.119 --> 01:19:00.800
more thing and then kind of close
it out. But I think it's important

1021
01:19:00.840 --> 01:19:06.039
that we mentioned chapter nineteen because ultimately, you know, the reason that you

1022
01:19:06.119 --> 01:19:11.319
wrote the book was to help and
I'm quoting here directly from your book,

1023
01:19:11.359 --> 01:19:15.000
to help others find their way to
Jesus through their supernatural experiences in life.

1024
01:19:15.039 --> 01:19:19.000
And you had gone through many in
your life and you knew it would help

1025
01:19:19.079 --> 01:19:23.239
others make sense of theirs. So
if you wouldn't mind, would you talk

1026
01:19:23.279 --> 01:19:29.159
a little bit about your time at
Albertson's and your relationship with Lynette and how

1027
01:19:29.199 --> 01:19:35.079
that changed everything. Oh wow,
Yeah, that's a that's a good one,

1028
01:19:35.119 --> 01:19:51.960
George, if the good one.
Uh yeah. So Lynnette was a

1029
01:19:53.079 --> 01:19:58.119
very special person. She she fighted
in me. I got to know her

1030
01:19:58.199 --> 01:20:02.600
to worked with her in the deli, and during this time I was running

1031
01:20:02.680 --> 01:20:09.920
to and from work. Okay,
So every day I was running probably two

1032
01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:14.520
miles, two and a quarter miles. It's actually the same time that I

1033
01:20:14.560 --> 01:20:17.039
came up with the concept of my
running two that I'm trying to get patented.

1034
01:20:19.479 --> 01:20:24.920
It actually forces you to run correctly
and on the way to work.

1035
01:20:25.720 --> 01:20:30.720
This is gonna sound it's gonna sound
odd. But I had an old walkman,

1036
01:20:30.119 --> 01:20:34.520
a CD walkman. Oh they were
terrible school ones. It would carry

1037
01:20:34.560 --> 01:20:40.000
a single CD, right yep.
So I had this crazy idea. I

1038
01:20:40.039 --> 01:20:43.960
remember thinking, I was like,
I wonder if I run this way,

1039
01:20:45.119 --> 01:20:49.680
if if the CD will skip?
And so I did. I ran to

1040
01:20:49.840 --> 01:20:53.880
work because I was already running the
work, so I just figured I might

1041
01:20:53.920 --> 01:20:57.560
as well have fun with it.
So I jogged the work. And what

1042
01:20:57.600 --> 01:21:03.640
I realized was by running how I
was r versus you know, planting the

1043
01:21:03.680 --> 01:21:09.840
traditional way people planning the heel.
So I ran both ways. And what

1044
01:21:09.880 --> 01:21:15.199
I realized is that my way of
running would actually it actually skipped way less

1045
01:21:15.239 --> 01:21:18.560
like it would still skip a little
bit, but the other way it would.

1046
01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:21.119
So in other words, I thought
of this, well, well,

1047
01:21:21.159 --> 01:21:25.760
this time I thought of this idea
of the running show. At the same

1048
01:21:25.760 --> 01:21:30.159
time, I'm telling you about Hnette. So I was running to work one

1049
01:21:30.239 --> 01:21:39.359
day. She had recently tried to
she wanted to I had missed to say,

1050
01:21:40.760 --> 01:21:44.279
wanted to hook up with me.
And me and her we liked each

1051
01:21:44.279 --> 01:21:46.920
other. And so I remember God
was like putting on my heart, like

1052
01:21:46.960 --> 01:21:56.039
to to be a good witness to
her right. And so she wanted me

1053
01:21:56.079 --> 01:22:00.680
to look at some pictures that she
had made, especially made like in a

1054
01:22:00.760 --> 01:22:05.840
studio and stuff, and she knows
it was there were really nice, really

1055
01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:10.279
nice pictures. But I didn't feel
comfortable looking at him. And I could

1056
01:22:10.439 --> 01:22:13.680
It was like I could feel God
looking at him. I could steel him

1057
01:22:13.720 --> 01:22:16.520
watching me while I was sitting there
talk with it. And so I told

1058
01:22:16.560 --> 01:22:18.840
her, I said, Lenette,
I'm not going to look at those,

1059
01:22:18.920 --> 01:22:23.279
and she's like, what why.
I was like, I just I don't

1060
01:22:23.319 --> 01:22:27.800
think it's the right thing to do. And she goes, she's like,

1061
01:22:27.840 --> 01:22:33.039
you're weird. She didn't know how
to dig with it. So but I

1062
01:22:33.039 --> 01:22:38.359
remember I was scared. I was
scared of what God would take of me.

1063
01:22:38.439 --> 01:22:45.399
I guess if I didn't do what
he wanted me to do. So

1064
01:22:45.399 --> 01:22:50.079
so she by doing that, she
I guess trusted me more, you know,

1065
01:22:50.359 --> 01:22:53.239
Yeah, and I told her,
I said, look, if we're

1066
01:22:53.279 --> 01:22:56.319
gonna, if you and I are
going to be a thing, I want

1067
01:22:56.319 --> 01:22:59.960
to do it right. I don't
want to do something behind the back or

1068
01:23:00.319 --> 01:23:05.279
whatever. So she started telling me
more stuff about her personal life and how

1069
01:23:05.319 --> 01:23:10.359
she experienced supernatural stuff. And I
was like, oh, here we go,

1070
01:23:10.399 --> 01:23:15.279
it's right down my alley and so
and so she was blown away with

1071
01:23:15.359 --> 01:23:18.239
stuff I would tell her. And
she started telling me more stuff and her

1072
01:23:18.319 --> 01:23:24.359
dad she experienced. And so one
night she was closing, it was her

1073
01:23:24.399 --> 01:23:27.520
turn to close. I was about
ready to get ready to go home,

1074
01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:30.680
and so I did her favor and
I took out all the trash. And

1075
01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:33.119
you have to take the trash out
to the back and the compactor, so

1076
01:23:33.920 --> 01:23:36.800
at a giant, a big old
metal flatbed. She to called the trash

1077
01:23:36.880 --> 01:23:39.880
back. But when I did this, I took all the trash back.

1078
01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:42.119
I told her, all right,
I'm going to take the trash and then

1079
01:23:42.159 --> 01:23:45.159
I'll come back up and I'll go
home, Like all right, so bend.

1080
01:23:45.319 --> 01:23:50.000
When I did that, I am
coming back up to the deli.

1081
01:23:51.039 --> 01:23:57.119
I remember, I just I felt
I needed to pray for I felt I

1082
01:23:57.159 --> 01:24:00.680
just started praying right. I was
walking this really loud was when you push

1083
01:24:00.720 --> 01:24:06.359
these flatbeds by themselves, they're really
loud, but if you put something on

1084
01:24:06.439 --> 01:24:11.199
them that they don't make a noise
really, right, So I'm pushing this

1085
01:24:11.239 --> 01:24:14.000
thing up through the store, making
all this racket, but I'm still praying

1086
01:24:14.039 --> 01:24:16.239
to myself. That's just a funny
thing for me. So I'm going up

1087
01:24:16.279 --> 01:24:20.119
to the deli. What just proves
that you can pray to God in any

1088
01:24:20.159 --> 01:24:26.079
situation, right, Yeah, So
I'm praying in the situation and I'm like,

1089
01:24:26.159 --> 01:24:30.600
God, I pray that you use
me to speak to Neet, I

1090
01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:34.720
said. I said something like that, like use me to Lynette, help

1091
01:24:35.239 --> 01:24:40.199
help me reach her and bring you
glory and help me witness to her,

1092
01:24:40.439 --> 01:24:44.680
something like that. And so I
get to the deli. I sit on

1093
01:24:45.039 --> 01:24:47.079
you know, I pushed the flatbed
against the spot into the delhi and put

1094
01:24:47.079 --> 01:24:51.119
it away, and I get up
on the table and and something can tell

1095
01:24:51.159 --> 01:24:55.439
me to just start talking her.
It's like, thanks, Colin, I

1096
01:24:55.439 --> 01:24:57.680
really appreciate it. She said,
you know this and that, And then

1097
01:24:57.680 --> 01:25:00.399
I started talking to her. She
was standing probably tend fee to away from

1098
01:25:00.399 --> 01:25:05.319
me, and I was sitting on
the table. And then I started telling

1099
01:25:05.359 --> 01:25:10.760
her why I did want to look
at the photos and how much I cared

1100
01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:14.560
about her, and I started talking
to her about God and dude, the

1101
01:25:14.600 --> 01:25:19.199
next thing I know, I'm sitting
there and then I feel It's like in

1102
01:25:19.239 --> 01:25:25.479
the book I put. The best
way to describe it is like you're driving

1103
01:25:25.560 --> 01:25:30.319
right and it's like you put the
car in cruise control, and then you

1104
01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:34.720
turn on the heater, and then
you climb into the back seat and the

1105
01:25:34.760 --> 01:25:39.960
Holy Spirit sitting passenger, and he
slides over and he takes over the wheel,

1106
01:25:41.159 --> 01:25:44.039
and then you're in the back seat
and you just put your head back

1107
01:25:44.079 --> 01:25:47.720
and you close your eyes, and
that's that's just the best way I could

1108
01:25:47.760 --> 01:25:51.680
describe what happened. It was like
I was talking to her and I started

1109
01:25:51.720 --> 01:25:59.399
feeling warm, and I could like
slowly I remember, I'm assuming my eyes

1110
01:25:59.479 --> 01:26:03.199
rolled back because I remember like zoning
out, and I could hear myself talking,

1111
01:26:04.000 --> 01:26:10.039
but I could hear it was like
you ever seen that movie get Out?

1112
01:26:10.439 --> 01:26:13.199
No? I have not, Huh, Okay, well, there's a

1113
01:26:13.199 --> 01:26:15.239
part in that movie that reminds me
when I'm describing right now. So it's

1114
01:26:15.279 --> 01:26:19.920
almost like I was sinking back into
myself and I could hear my voice,

1115
01:26:19.920 --> 01:26:26.199
but it started like fading out.
It was bizarre, and I just felt

1116
01:26:26.239 --> 01:26:29.680
warm and tingly, and and then
all of a sudden, next thing,

1117
01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:34.640
I know, Linet, it's like
calling, and and I like, I

1118
01:26:34.720 --> 01:26:38.319
like, come back, right,
I come back, and I'm looking at

1119
01:26:38.319 --> 01:26:42.760
her and I'm like trying to focus, and I'm not sure what just happened.

1120
01:26:42.840 --> 01:26:45.319
And she's like wide eyed looking at
me, and she's crying. She's

1121
01:26:45.319 --> 01:26:48.680
had tears on her face, and
she's like calling, and I was like

1122
01:26:49.439 --> 01:26:53.239
what, I like shook him,
like what She's like, you were glowing.

1123
01:26:54.479 --> 01:26:57.600
I was like what And I didn't
know what the heck, I didn't

1124
01:26:57.600 --> 01:27:00.159
know what. I didn't know what
was going on. All I know is

1125
01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:05.800
is that that's what happened. That's
what she told me. And I was

1126
01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:09.439
when she said that I was looking
at her. I was freaked out.

1127
01:27:09.479 --> 01:27:13.279
I was scared. And then and
it was like for a second or two,

1128
01:27:13.279 --> 01:27:15.640
we're looking at each other, and
then I saw her get like really

1129
01:27:15.680 --> 01:27:21.000
embarrassed or like I could see like
she was like ashamed to look at me,

1130
01:27:21.720 --> 01:27:29.720
and then she she she turned her
face and she she walked away from

1131
01:27:29.800 --> 01:27:34.920
me, and it was just it
was all God, it wasn't me,

1132
01:27:35.119 --> 01:27:39.439
had nothing to do with me.
It was the Holy Spirit showed up.

1133
01:27:39.479 --> 01:27:44.119
I know it was the Holy Spirit. It wasn't me. So she she

1134
01:27:44.199 --> 01:27:46.279
saw she saw. I don't know
what she saw. I just know that

1135
01:27:46.359 --> 01:27:49.439
she said I was glowing. So
what exactly does that mean? The only

1136
01:27:49.479 --> 01:27:54.239
thing I can think of is in
the story of Moses when he came down

1137
01:27:54.239 --> 01:27:57.880
and he was glowing and everyone that
they said, cover your face, we

1138
01:27:57.880 --> 01:28:01.600
don't want to look at you.
So it's it's the Holy Spirit showed up

1139
01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:06.840
and convicted her, and that's why
she felt so ashamed. And she wouldn't

1140
01:28:06.840 --> 01:28:11.279
talk to me, and so I
was freaking out. I didn't know what

1141
01:28:11.399 --> 01:28:14.119
was going on. I was scared. I was like, oh my gosh,

1142
01:28:14.159 --> 01:28:16.520
what has happened? And nothing like
that had ever happened to me before,

1143
01:28:17.159 --> 01:28:20.560
and uh, you know, she
wouldn't talk to me, and so

1144
01:28:21.119 --> 01:28:25.640
I was it was real awkward,
and so I was like, Okay,

1145
01:28:26.520 --> 01:28:30.039
well, I guess I'll talk to
you later, and she just, you

1146
01:28:30.079 --> 01:28:32.239
know, she kept sweeping up the
deli and all the lights were off,

1147
01:28:32.279 --> 01:28:36.119
and so I walked out the doors. I said, all right, good

1148
01:28:36.159 --> 01:28:39.000
night, let that and she she
said, all right good night, and

1149
01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:45.199
she would look at me and yeah, so it was. It was very

1150
01:28:45.319 --> 01:28:50.319
uh, and it's very humbling and
very sobering. And let me tell you,

1151
01:28:51.079 --> 01:28:58.960
when God chooses to when God chooses
to answer a prayer, a lot

1152
01:28:59.000 --> 01:29:05.960
of times she'll do it in a
way that you could never imagine. So

1153
01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:13.880
she obviously impacted her. And so
that was a witness to her. I

1154
01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:18.000
know it was. And I prayed
for her beause she was barren, she

1155
01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:21.399
couldn't have children, and so I
told her I prayed, I prayed for

1156
01:29:21.479 --> 01:29:26.239
her, and I was like six
months later or whatever it was, she

1157
01:29:26.239 --> 01:29:30.039
she got pregnant and she had a
she had a baby boy. And she

1158
01:29:30.239 --> 01:29:32.520
told me that was that's that's what
she wanted in life more than anything.

1159
01:29:33.159 --> 01:29:38.399
And so I prayed for her,
like earnestly prayed for her because I my

1160
01:29:38.399 --> 01:29:41.000
heart went out to her and I
loved her. I cared about her,

1161
01:29:41.680 --> 01:29:46.279
and and so uh when she told
me that, I told her, I

1162
01:29:46.560 --> 01:29:49.159
took her by the shoulder and I
said, Lynette, I want you to

1163
01:29:49.199 --> 01:29:51.880
know that I prayed for you.
God answered my prayer. He gave me

1164
01:29:51.920 --> 01:29:55.520
the baby. And she started crying
and she's like, oh, by gosh,

1165
01:29:55.560 --> 01:29:58.159
I believe you. I totally believe
you, because she had given up.

1166
01:29:58.359 --> 01:30:00.720
She thought she was never going to
have a kid. Sure, and

1167
01:30:00.760 --> 01:30:03.640
so that was all gone. And
then me and my buddy or Esta went

1168
01:30:03.640 --> 01:30:08.560
to the ball and her baby boy
was turning one. Wow. So I

1169
01:30:08.560 --> 01:30:12.159
went, I bought this. I
bought this denim jacket, and I bought

1170
01:30:12.159 --> 01:30:16.640
the jacket and I had it embroidered
on the back wonderboard because it wasn't supposed

1171
01:30:16.640 --> 01:30:19.920
to be bored. She just started
crying. I gave her the jacket.

1172
01:30:19.960 --> 01:30:25.159
She started crying, and it was
just a really cool thing. And God

1173
01:30:25.279 --> 01:30:29.960
is absolutely made. That was all. It's an amazing story. Uh.

1174
01:30:30.039 --> 01:30:32.600
And it's a great book. And
the last thing I did what to do

1175
01:30:32.680 --> 01:30:39.720
before you addressed the audience, thank
you for putting at the very end of

1176
01:30:39.760 --> 01:30:43.399
the Bible the book. You you
gave specific instructions on how to get saved,

1177
01:30:43.399 --> 01:30:45.399
but you also noted that you don't
have to read the Bible first in

1178
01:30:45.479 --> 01:30:48.359
order to be saved, and you
actually give you know, a step by

1179
01:30:48.399 --> 01:30:53.840
step directions on how to get saved. So kudos to you on that for

1180
01:30:55.000 --> 01:30:58.720
for putting that in there. And
uh, again, folks, I'll have

1181
01:30:59.520 --> 01:31:02.960
the links in the show notes.
You can get it on Kindle if you

1182
01:31:03.079 --> 01:31:09.840
prefer it that way, hardcover paperback. It's all available for you. And

1183
01:31:09.840 --> 01:31:12.199
one thing I will tell you is
Amazon is pretty quick about it. I

1184
01:31:12.199 --> 01:31:15.399
think I got mine in two days
so, and you know, it was

1185
01:31:15.439 --> 01:31:17.920
a rainy day and they were a
little careless with it. But I have

1186
01:31:17.920 --> 01:31:25.560
another one. My replacement is coming
on Saturday. You know, what are

1187
01:31:25.560 --> 01:31:28.319
you going to do? But again, thanks for your time, thanks for

1188
01:31:28.359 --> 01:31:30.600
sharing your story. And it's quite
a story, quite a journey, and

1189
01:31:30.680 --> 01:31:35.800
I certainly want to give you the
the last bit of this podcast to address

1190
01:31:35.840 --> 01:31:42.239
the audience with your thoughts and anything
else you'd like to add. Yeah,

1191
01:31:42.399 --> 01:31:45.840
thank you, George, and thank
you for letting me come on. You're

1192
01:31:45.840 --> 01:31:48.680
always so humble man. Yeah,
I got a lot of respect for you,

1193
01:31:48.760 --> 01:31:54.800
dude. And I don't I don't
say this. I give credit work

1194
01:31:54.880 --> 01:31:58.479
due. I'm the type of person
might get me a compliment. It's it's

1195
01:31:58.520 --> 01:32:00.359
sincere. I don't just say it. I'm talking to it. But so

1196
01:32:01.239 --> 01:32:09.560
you're the real deal. I wanted
to say, everyone listening, like I

1197
01:32:09.600 --> 01:32:12.239
say in the book on the back, I'm the back of the book.

1198
01:32:13.079 --> 01:32:16.279
Jesus is knocking on your heart,
and he loves everybody. He does.

1199
01:32:16.319 --> 01:32:20.279
He's not a respect for persons.
So it doesn't matter who you are,

1200
01:32:20.640 --> 01:32:26.560
doesn't matter what you've done, he
will. He will redeem you, just

1201
01:32:26.600 --> 01:32:30.439
like he redeemed me. I'm a
filthy senter. Let's let's get something straighter.

1202
01:32:30.960 --> 01:32:34.439
I'm a filthy sinner just like everybody
else. So I'm not better than

1203
01:32:34.479 --> 01:32:39.840
you. You know, I'm not
more special than you. It just so

1204
01:32:39.960 --> 01:32:42.800
happens that, for whatever reason,
I'm going to find out when I get

1205
01:32:42.800 --> 01:32:45.840
to Heaven, I'm gonna ask God
all kinds of questions. You know,

1206
01:32:45.279 --> 01:32:47.119
you know, why he did this, why I did that. I'm sure

1207
01:32:47.119 --> 01:32:53.680
he's gonna tell me that He isn't
been a wisdom decided to allow me to

1208
01:32:53.680 --> 01:32:58.199
go through these saints. And he
loves you just like he loves me.

1209
01:32:58.680 --> 01:33:02.479
And yeah, just start reading the
Bible. Just read the Bible. This

1210
01:33:02.600 --> 01:33:05.439
is just read the Bible. The
truth is in there. Go to God.

1211
01:33:06.760 --> 01:33:10.520
If you know you're looking around and
you see stuff, how it's going

1212
01:33:10.560 --> 01:33:15.159
on in the world. Prophecies are
fulfilling. The Lord's coming back, and

1213
01:33:15.199 --> 01:33:17.439
people are still gonna mock, but
Jesus is coming and you need to get

1214
01:33:17.520 --> 01:33:21.119
saved. Don't put it off,
because no man knows if he's going to

1215
01:33:21.199 --> 01:33:25.439
live tomorrow. I might die tonight, I might die tomorrow. I don't

1216
01:33:25.560 --> 01:33:29.479
know. So if you have the
chance now to get saved, get saved,

1217
01:33:29.760 --> 01:33:34.479
because that's it. That's all I
say, And that's a great way

1218
01:33:34.520 --> 01:33:43.479
to close it right. Nobody's guaranteed
tomorrow, So get saved and profess it

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out loud while in prayer. Again, if you'd like to reach out to

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Colin, his email address will be
in the show notes, and of course

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the links to many things that we
talked about during this conversation, we'll be

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in there. If you have a
podcast and you'd like to bring him on,

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reach out to him. I'm sure
he'd love to share his story and

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and get this out there. So
again, thank you so much Colin for

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your time and listen. Congratulations on
it's a huge deal to say that your

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your author, Joseph Colin Wright,
So kudos to you and uh and uh

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your message and much success to you. God bless everyone to have a great

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week, and again, keep your
head on a swivel. And until the

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next time we meet, my friends, we will see you. I know

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it's been a struggle. I don't
know if you've had. I not feeling

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t hell down all the way.
Yeah, I know you feeling you smile

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and the same as well. Go
for you. She like you've lost you.

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Don't give up, No, don't
give in, nevers home, don't

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let all the primise. It ain't
done yet. He's gone a lad.

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Why it's a right got up?
He re come? Why right? God

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up? He recalled. I can
see the street beside you. Child's are

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putting up five. Oh you're stronger
than anything you Yeah, you're gonna be

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all right. You're accepting a dead
BULLI beautiful. You're shoving bride. Yeah,

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you're living. Breathe you can hold
you head. Don't give up.

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No, don't give in, neverless
home. Don't they go on the primies.

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It ain't Dounion's got a plaid watch
some raintel the God of me come,

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don't give up, No, don't
give in, never lis home,

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don't let go on the primis.
It ain't don of like it's worth living.

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W a plain town. The God
up, baby colt? Why the

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place down? Got up? Oh
yes, what surprise down the God up

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it came. Oh yeah, got
don't give up, no, don't give

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in never hol do they go of
the primis I mean, and don yeh,

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he's got up playing. What's the
kind of if it costs? And

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don't give no dog giving, never
hold do that, go of the primes.

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It ain't done. Love's w ev
what's died? The God of ever

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records ah, the God of need
cos what it's done, the God of

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it cos m h. You're listening
to the Fact Hunter Radio Network. Just

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the facts, ma'my mm hmm.