The following present is Del Marvi Studios Production. Welcome back to truth Seekers.
It's time for a very special interview. We're bringing back a guest who has
been on both podcasts before and he's been a longtime friend of the show.
And I'm very happy to report that the book that he has been working on
has been published. And our special guest today, who again, who's been
on before. I think we spoke about the broz And Sea and his name
is a Joseph Colin Wright and his book that is just published that is available
on Amazon, and I will have that link for you guys to go to
the show notes and click on it and it will take you right to the
site for you to purchase the book. And it's entitled Through a Glass Unveiled
and it's an incredible story about his incredible life and he's just a well,
let's keep using the word. He's really an incredible person and I consider a
good friend. And it's Colin. That's kind of what I know. Your
author name is Joseph Colin, right, but you know I call you Colin.
So welcome to the show, sir. How are you doing? Love
to be your doorg cheer off? Well? Again. Congratulations. It's a
it's a big accomplishment to writing a book because for those who have never written
a book before that there is so much that goes into it. What order
do you put it in? And I know one thing that we had talked
about kind of before about like how personal do you really want to be when
you're sharing these experiences. So I'll give you the floor for the first few
minutes. And let's not assume everybody has heard our previous conversation, So go
ahead and introduce yourself to the audience. All right, So, just like
before, I'm sure you don't mind, I would like to start off with
prayer. All right, family, Father, Lord, thank you so much
for this time again with George Hobbs. What a wonderful man, father and
grandfather, And just thank you Lord for that this man d he's preaching so
many people. I pray you continue to bless him and his family. So
I pray that this episode reaches as many people as possible. And I pray
that I pray that you accept what I've done to lift up and glorify your
son. And I pray that you help me stay out of the way as
usual, and I pray you give me the words to speak. I pray
you speak for me and just all all glory to Jesus Christ. I pray
Jesus in your name. M Amen, brother, thank you. Yep.
So you wanted me to talk about myself, right, Yeah, a little
introduction to the audience for you know, some of them that's the first time
hearing you who may have not caught that last podcast. Absolutely. Yeah.
So uh. I My family were from originally from Lebanon, Missouri, just
the wonderful place from living in Missouri, and we stayed there until I was
about let's say eight years old, and a bunch of stuff happened there spiritually,
a lot of Saint worship back in Missouri actually, and my mom rest
in peace. She actually passed away December seventh. She was an amazing woman.
So I'm gonna try not to get emotional hair she and she is by
far the number one reason why I got saved. And she would read the
original King James to us when we were little, and I credited that for
a lot of my reading comprehension and my ability to speak, regardless of the
fact that it hit my head you know, multiple times, I've traumatic,
you know, emotional trauma, just stuff in my life and just she's she's
just an amazing woman and she's no longer with us, but I want to
dedicate this personally to my mom. Ah, she's just very specil So yeah,
she she decided to she wanted to move from. We went to Washington
State, the Diniacoma, Washington for a little bit with our cousins, and
then moved down to Presstott, Arizona. And let me tell you that place
pressed On Arizona is honestly like learning a little bit about what is it JPL,
the oh yeah person. Yeah, this this place would almost like like
a little vacation getaway or like his followers and stuff real you know, New
Age crystals and all the power within yourself and all that nonsense. So we
lived there for probably six state months. Finally came to Vista, California and
been here ever since. So I currently live on Camp Pendleton. And yeah,
so I have a daughter, amazing daughter that the Lord has blessed me
with, and yeah that's saved when I was about five, and this book
that I came out with it, I've had a burning desire to write about
all the supernatural experiences that I've been through and which are I mean crazy crazy,
It's just very a huge understatement. So uh, it's it's it's in
chronological order, so you know, I talk about all this stuff, and
I for every entry that I put in there, I illustrated though, I
drew a picture and colored each one, and there's two photographs in there.
So I encourage anyone who gets this book. It's uh kind of spooky.
There's some pretty freaking things in there. I wouldn't recommend it for the youngsters,
probably fourteen and older. It's very real, very raw, and Georgie,
you nailed it. I actually left this stuff out because, like you
said, you have to decide as an author how personally you want to get
so you know, yeah, that's how am I doing so far? You're
awesome and and something I wanted to kind of jump in and mention, and
I forgot that we even had this conversation a while back when you would mention
Lebanon, Missouri and the Satanic temple there, and just I had no idea.
You know, you think Missouri just like you think Switzerland was you know,
yodeling and chocolate, and you really understand all the nefarious activity that goes
on there, and it's the same you know us in Fort Leonard would Missouri,
and you think Lake of the Ozarks and fishing, and obviously Saint Louis.
Every big city has its hiccups, but it doesn't take much. And
listen, if you can find that kind of stuff on Google without having to
dig down into Brave and the index, then you know there's something serious going
on with that. And then I think we even had a listener that emailed
that was going to Lebanon, and I think you might have even connected with
them. I don't know. Yeah, no, you're right. Yeah she
did with some lady. I forget her name, but she was a concerned
and she's like, yeah, I heard your episode and I was just curious,
and it's funny. When she asked me, I was actually I was
my mom's and my mom and my dad there. They're old school, so
they're they're hillbilly, kind of redneckish, and uh, it's so funny.
I was at her house and I read it and I was like, that's
funny, and it's like, hey, mom, yeah, it's up.
And my dad walks in and said, hey, you guys. I started
telling them what's what's places to steer away from? At Levin in Missouri.
And they both looked me, like, why are you asking that? And
I told them I told them about your podcast and the episode and the girl
inquiring, and and they just started rowing off all these streets that I didn't
even know about. But they you know, they lived there for like decades,
right, so they they know every church and full building and every quarter.
So it was just funny to have them reminiscent start telling me stuff.
The stuff. Well, I hope she's doing okay because I didn't hear from
her sense. So if you're listening, send us an email, let me
know, because I think she sold everything, picked up an RV and just
kind of took off. I think she's actually in California or or Oregon and
she just kind of packed up and left, and she was looking for a
place to kind of make home. And you know, we are living in
bizarro world, and you know, I'm kind of at the point where I
feel there's no place to really run to anymore. Just dig in and find
like minded people locally and do the best you can. Your book, you
state somewhere around the age of five that you felt compelled to get saved,
and that really, in the realm of things, is very early for someone
to ask those type of questions. That's really interesting. Was it something you
guys were always going to church or what made you compelled to talk to your
mom about getting saved? Well, that's as interesting. Is I actually have
repressed memories that I need to go to the therapist or something. I don't
know, I got to go to somebody because I don't actually know why I
did this. I just I remember going up to my mom and it's actually
the entry, the first entry of the book. And I go up to
her and pull out her dress. I can still see. I can still
remember saying this. And she was cooking like beef stew or chili or something,
and she was at the in front of the stove and I pulled on
her dress and I said, Mom, how do I get saved? Or
I want to get saved or something like that, And she said what So,
so you're right. We we we all went to church. We went
to church called Tabernacle Christian, the Tabernacle Christian Academy. It was a very
very what you call traditional Baptist and I have a very horrible memory of while
going to that church because it's unfortunate. But people always talk about racism and
oh, you're a racist, and this and that. This is that people
don't understand what real racism looks like. That I can still remember being in
church and ah, gosh, I think about this, it tears me up.
This black family was in the church and the tabernacle had a bunch of
elders right about the racist old white people. Not all of them, I
shouldn't say that, but there was. There was a lot of good people,
but there were some racist people there, just old school, you know.
And I remember they stood up and they're like, we need to vote
these people out. And I didn't know what was going on. I had
no idea, but I still remember seeing this black family walking up the aisle
and they were crying, and it just it chokes me up to think about
it, because you know, they they were kicked out of a church,
like what. But this happened because they were black, and that is that's
real racism. That's horrible. It should never happen. And I'm ashamed to
be a part of something like that, but that's you know, I'm assuming
the church isn't like that anymore. But that was back in the eighties,
so yeah, and yeah, so we all went to that church and actually
went to private school there, and we would go every Sunday. So I
assume that that I don't know, maybe God put around my heart or something
that I don't really know. I just went up to her and asked her,
and basically from that moment in the second entry, I kneeled down in
the front yard. I started worshiping God, just very similar to how Solomon
did. He got up on top of the table and he stuck out his
arms and started praising the Lord and giving thanks to God. That's kind of
what I was doing. I remember doing that, and then that's from that
moment I've been attacked relentlessly by the enemy. So that's really interesting. You
mentioned that so many people have reached out to me because many of our listeners
have had kind of similar unpleasant experiences within you know, formal churches. Yeah,
and you actually, I think it's chapter two that is actually entitled front
yard Worship, and there's so many people who were kind of bringing not necessarily
front yard, but just the small uh you know, in the house and
rotate maybe you know, this week we're going to have, you know,
get together at our house, you know, kind of a pot luck the
next week. And it's not like one person that is preaching to everyone.
It's just kind of everybody getting involved. And I'm getting more and more emails
of saying that, you know, we're just doing it's not a denomination.
It's just we follow Christ, and you know, we bring the people into
our home and we go from there. And I'm starting to see and hear
a lot more of that type of thing, which I think is great.
When I see people like the guy in Houston Oldstein and the guy in Atlanta
and all those things, it really upsets me because that's not what Jesus was
about. Jesus was not about airplanes. You know, obviously I didn't have
them, but he would have never been about mansions and airplanes. Right.
No, Yeah, it's funny you say that because this church of going to
just outside of Camp Pelton, they they got their building fund and everything,
and they're expanding and this, that and the other. And I remember last
time I was there, and it must be God given me the spirit.
I don't I'm not really shy to talk about certain things like most people are.
I'm sitting there and these older women are talking like, oh this and
that the church is growing and we're gonna build onto this and and something told
me to say this. I turned around and I said, morning, ladies.
I was like, you talking about the building from the gas and it
shows like a pamphlet and showing all the stuff that's gonna happen. And isn't
that great? I said, that is great? I said, and then
after we do that, uh, then we can break off and start somewhere
and start it all over. I got another location, and they looked at
me like all puzzle, like they didn't know of a say, you see
what I'm saying, Like yeah, yeah, that's fine. Get to a
certain point and then kind of like uh, like the body like a cell
multiplies, Like that's what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to That's what
Paul. It's faced to what Paul did. Right. He was telling them,
okay, you know, go here, build up, build a group,
and then you know, get a couple people that are solid in the
face, and then take them with you and then go on to the net
and started up, you know, repeat the process. That's right, And
that's that's not that's not all we see, like you're saying, like it's
actually the opposite of what we're supposed to do is a massive compound looks like
what do you guysed to do with? You know? So yeah, you
actually it's the second person this week to reference Paul and how he did that,
how he taught that. Yeah, let's talk about if we could,
if we talked about your first out of body experience. Sure, yeah,
this one was strange because it's weird of God does stuff. Missus Wolfe was
my kindergarten teacher, and she had three daughters, and I mean we knew
her pretty well. It's like everyone in the small town. Everybody knows everybody,
and her oldest daughter would like babysitizen and stuff. And so one day
my mom had to do some errands or do something. I knew what it
was, but me and my I'm number five of six kids, and my
younger sister, Aaron, she's the sixth child. So the other four siblings
were at school or whatever they were doing. So my mom needed somebody to
watch us, and so she had set up Missus wolf my kindergarten teacher,
to watch this on a I'm assuming on a weekend or something, but it
was probably I want to say, a week or two maybe where I had
this dream. I just remember I was dreaming, and all of a sudden,
in my dream, I remember basically like floating up to the front of
this house. I'd never seen this house before, you know, had no
idea. I just thinking it was a dream. But then I remember floating.
I floated in through the front door, and I knew I was floating
because I was high up in the air. So I think it's entry number
five and chapter five where it says do you mind if I drop in or
something like that. Yeah, sure, hop skip and a joke, that
is what it's titled. So I come in and uh, I'm probably I'm
guessing six seven feet in the air. And I just remember seeing the inside
of her house. It was so weird. I saw I could see your
kitchen, I could see the hallway down to my left, I could see
little partition waller in front of me, and then I could see to my
right like this den. But it was like a step down. You had
to like step down from the front entry, and it had like a recliner
and like a bookshelf, and it was so bizarre. And then and then
I woke up. And then like a week or two later, we you
know, my mom drops us off to Missus Wolf. I've never been to
her house. As we pull up to the house, I started getting this
awkward familiarity, right, I'm like, going on here, And so as
we walk up to the front door, it hits me. I'm like,
no, hey, what's gold on? And so they, you know,
if Missus wallbanswers the door, Oh, I come in, And as I
walk in, I see everything from my dream. I'm like, what in
the world. And I didn't say a word to nobody because I knew I
must have been sick. I'm assuming I don't know. I think six.
They I was either five or six, And I didn't say nothing, but
I knew. And as soon as I remember thinking to myself, there's gonna
be a step down to my right, I looked to my right, and
I'm telling you, it was exactly like I saw my dream. And I
didn't say anything for years because I don't want people to think I was a
nuts you know, sure, but that but that's what's weird, is that
the thing about me is that my entire life, I've always had this like
a knowing, like a certain level of maturity, not because I'm better or
anything like that, just because of what I've been forced into, you know
what I mean. So it's kind of forced me to grow up in certain
ways that otherwise I would not have. So, you know, going through
elementary, going to middle school, I always had like this knowing in my
mind that I'm not like other people. And I didn't know why. I
just knew. I just knew things that other people didn't and I and I
kept it to myself. And so it's played a huge role in my life
with how I interact with people, how I assess the situation, how I
gauge people. I'll see something coming up and I could just immediately and like
read them to a point like I'm not like a you know, I don't
have magic or anything, but I'm certain that God gave me. I guess
you would call it discernment, like a discerning spirit or something. And there's
a later entering the book where I did literally just that. And I told
my dad because when we went to New York and we met this guy,
he was he was gonna buy some car parts from us, and and we
met him just for like a minute, and he had to go take a
phone call or whatever he did. And we got the truck because it was
freezing. We were Buffalo, New York, and we had a whole load
of car parks in the back and we're trying to you know, unload them
to this guy and make a bunch of money. And just from the minute
my dad was talking was I was watching this guy the whole time. We
got in the truck, and I look my dad and I was like,
hey, Dad, I don't like this guy. My dad sittings were talking
about it because he said there just trying to get warms picture and dollar bill.
Yeah. Yeah. So he he's got the he's got the heater on,
and we're sitting in the big blue dually and uh, you know,
it's freezing outside in Buffalo and New York. And and I say this off
the wall comment to him. He's like, what are you talking about.
I was like, all right, I just did a bad feeling from the
guy. And they just laughed. And he sees the guy and walked back
outside. They just laughed. He's just sit tight, try to get warm,
and he closes the door and he talks to him for probably I don't
know, a ten fifteen minutes or something. And I can see my dad
kind of not has head the guys, you know, uh, moving his
hands and it's playing something to him. And I'm just sitting there, and
by now the truck fell warm and my dad walks back over gets into the
truck. And I watched my dad. He closed the door and he's just
sitting there. It's all quiet, and he's looking out the windshield, and
all of a sudden he looks at me and he's like, why did you
say that about him? And I was like, I don't know, I
just don't trust him. He laughed that he would suck out the windshield and
he goes, I think that guy just tried to rip me off. Wow,
And for years, like he told as soon as we got back home,
he told my mom and my dad was my dad my mom were just
laughing and there they thought. My mom was like, oh, that's such
a hoot, like Judo say that. They just thought it was so funny.
My dad thought it was so funny that I was twelve years old and
I told him I was like the steads of creep watch out for him.
And he was like be quiet, just try to get warm and shut up.
I was dead on. Wow. I've always mentioned before that that younger
folks who are able to see things differently, that I must it must be
a burden, right because I was. I was flueless to everything I was
worried about, you know, my sports, and you know I was working
when I was you know, eleven twelve. I was delivered newspapers as I
hustling to get a buck, the last thing I was really paying attention to.
With many of the things that you were talking about, did you consider
it that at any point, you know, these type of things a burdened
at all or did it you know, affect you. Yeah, it was
absolutely a burden because what see, what happens is it's it's kind of a
catch twenty two because what happens is you you get this certain understanding of everything
around you and a certain knowing of things. Like I said, I didn't
have a crystal ball or nothing. But let's just say I had an advantage
over everyone else that I interacted with. But how do you how do you
say that? How do you explain that right without without everyone else being like
yeah, okay, buddy, whatever, okay, you're a weirdo or you
know what I mean. So I think, looking back on it now,
being older, I think I think that probably rubbed my siblings raw or rub
them off a little or the wrong way. And I didn't realize it really
at the time growing up, but looking back on it now, I think
because to me, it definitely seems to be a certain level of resentment towards
me. So, you know, if I could go back and watch my
life, like on a movie reel or something, I'm sure I would see
things that I didn't see at the time, you know what I mean.
Being that I'm older now and more mature, I'm certain that I would see
interaction between my siblings and friends that they'd be like, who does call?
And think he is? You know what I'm saying, But they they didn't
know what I was going through. And oh, the perspective really is it
really is everything? Because I mean, you know, look at flat Earth
like your perspective is completely distorted, and then once you finally wake up to
the truth, you're like, wait a second, and now your perspective is
completely different. So perspective is is, Uh, it's everything, dude.
It just it all depends on how you see something, how you see a
situation. So now that I'm older, God's showing me, like working on
my heart, working on my you know, just humbling me. My pride
has always been a big issue because of these things that I've been beset upon.
Right, so I have to check myself and understand that most people don't
see or understand what I do, and I have to check myself that like
you know, like try to see from someone else's perspective. Yeah. So
yeah, it's just it's really sad that that, you know, a recent
guest mentioned that, you know, when we're young, we see the world
in a certain light, but then we're actually told no, this is how
you're supposed to see the world. And that's what really is is the sad
part. You know, when you're young and you really understand see the world
for what it is, and then you're put through the system. No,
this is how you know, this is how it works, and you're basically
to a certain extent, your brainwashed, you know, to believe that this
is how this this is how the system should work. Yeah. Absolutely so.
My whole life, I've always been that person where I've always asked questions
when nobody else wanted to. And that has that has actually led me.
That really that led me to my discovering of the Biblical cosmology. Is just
really the deep the inner desire to understand more and to understand the truth of
a given situation, whatever it is. So I'm the type of person where
if I see something and I see there's something wrong with it, I'm going
to try to do it better than if I can. I'll try to fix
it, to make the work better. I just I have a desire to
to get to the root of it, to see, you know, what
makes a tick and how it works, why it works. And so I've
always asked questions, right, and people are always looking me weird, and
I'll tell something. I'll tell somebody something to like, yeah, okay,
Colin, and then six months later it will happen. You know. That's
throughout my whole life. It's been like that. So yeah, but about
my coming to the truth in the Bible, it really it actually started.
I would say I was probably eighteen or nineteen, but I didn't realize what
it was leading to then. So what I mean is we had a friend.
He's dead now. The rest of Peach wrote and he's actually the he's
the big guy, the big guy in that photo or if you've seen it
yet, it's the second photograph in the book from Lahoya and Thenian Reservation.
There's the picture of all of us posing and we're at like a campsite.
He's the big dude and he Meny and him would do drugs. Basically,
we would eat mushrooms and both marijuana and a bunch of stupid stuff when I
was young. But he was actually friends with my older brother West. And
Wes is actually dead. He died when he was twenty. When I was
sixteen is when he died. And that entry number chapter thirteen, I think
it is, is mom, I'm coming with you. That's the one where
West shot and killed and I my mom. But Roach was friends of the
West, and West always told me should callin to be careful around Roach.
I don't trust him, I said, okay, I put that in the
back of my head. And but me and him were We're at our apartment
and U Shotteridge in Vista, California when I was I want to say,
nineteen, and we were pontificating right and waxing deloquent about nonsense, and then
somehow it came up either my brother or him or Roach said something about the
solar system. They said something and it caught my ear and I looked at
him. I was like, that doesn't make any sense. And Roach was
like, you don't know what you're talking about. I was like, no,
that doesn't add up. And I think what it was he was trying
to describe how it was winter, how he described his winter on one part
of the world, but the rest it wasn't right. And I was like,
yeah, but the Earth is still the same distance from the sun,
right, And he's like, well, you just don't understand. He said
the tilt. That was like the Tilt're like, bro, the Earth spins
once every day, Like you don't know what you're talking about. Like,
even then, I knew there was something wrong with it. I just didn't
know what right. And so that's really what started it. I just didn't
realize it. And then probably I want to say two thousand and fifteen,
twenty sixteen, maybe maybe even earlier, I'm not really sure. I was
reading the Bible, I believe it, by Mom's house, and I just
had this desire to start reading the Bible again. And what's funny is that
I came across the story of Noah and I remember reading the passage talking about
and you know, the waters poured in from above and the deep shot up
and says that God flooded the earth. And I just stopped for a second,
and I looked up and I was pondering, and I was like,
wait a second, how is God going to flood the earth if it's a
spinning ball? And I remember thinking to myself, I was like, that's
retarded. That literally makes them sense. How would first of all, how
would that look like? What would that look like? And two you know
what I mean, like when you really stop and consider, what wouldes that?
Imply like? How would that happen? Where's the water coming from?
First of all, if it's a spinning ball? Where is this water?
Where's these storehouses of water that God keeps talking about? It just didn't add
up. It just seems so bizarre, and so you know, it's like
almost like breadcrumbs in my mind. And then then it was probably a couple
of years later, I just started I think I passed it. Actually a
passer, I think a young duy That's what it was. Me and my
ex we went on a picnic to the beach, probably twenty eighteen, and
he said we were sending in front of the water and the girls were,
you know, over yonder on the picnic on the sand, and me and
him were looked at the waves and he said, Colin, have you ever
considered that the Earth might not be what you think it is? And when
he the way he worded it, I looked at him. I was like,
what do you mean. He's like, well, do you think?
He's like, have you ever considered the Earth might not be a ball?
And what he said it blew my mind. I was like what. I
just kind of laughed. I was like, I don't know, like I
didn't want to mock him, Like the way he was talking about it sounded
like there was something to it. And at the same time, I'm like,
no, let's retarded. That can't be true, right because I but
against everything you'd been taught your whole life, all right, And I'm sitting
there trying to be like, where's this guy going? You know, where
are they going with it? And then just from there it kind of it
kind of just you know, just I would just out of curiosity and I
just started looking into him like interesting, because really it's the Bible. The
Bible is what just or field everything to me, because I would ask my
mom questions like, well, this doesn't make sense, like why what does
God mean by this? And my mom would say, Oh, it's just
you know, allegory or hyperbole, you know whatever. I'm like, I
don't think so. And I would have these debates with my mom because she
knew the Bible better than anybody I knew, and I'd ask her questions and
she do a lot of times she wouldn't be able to answer me. I'd
be like, well, don't you think that's a problem, Like nobody knows
they answer these questions, that's a problem. God doesn't work in confusion.
I don't care anybody said, unless he's deliberately trying to confuse somebody for a
very specific reason, you see what I'm saying. So it's not like God
wrote the Bible in his message to confuse everybody, like he wants people to
read it and to understand it. Now, there are certain things that God
says he wants you to it's it is it is for the what is the
glory of kings to research the matter and the honor of the Lord to conceal
it or something like that. Yeah. So yeah, there are certain things
that he wants you to search out, but he doesn't want us to be
utterly baffled by this message. Right, I'm like, well, what does
this mean? Like, no, that's what the enemy does. Yep.
So anyways, I wanted to before we went forward. I wanted to put
a wrap on the previous chapter because you wanted to make it clear that you
never tried to have these out of body experiences. They were always initiated by
God. Oh I'm sorry. Oh no, no you could. Yeah yeah,
I'll just all ramble bros. No, I think you're a good Matt.
Yeah, so thank you for bringing that up. He's actually a solid
point. Yeah, so make a crystal clear. I've never wanted any of
this. I've never tried to do any of this. I've never messed with
Aluiji board. I've never tried to you know, I've never tried to summon
a spirit. I've never tried to do any of that stuff. So all
this stuff here about remote viewing and people messing with the spirits and people trying
to do this, that and the other, and I've never wanted to do
any of that stuff. It just happened to me, and Skippio actively he
made a really good point. I was talking one time and he said,
you know, you might want to look into your family history. And as
soon as he said that, I was like, dude, I've never even
considered that. He's like, yeah, you might want to. He said
you might have some basins and something going on in the damn tree, bro.
And I was like, you were so right because he said kind of
the same thing with you're saying, like, so you've never done this,
you never want to do this, but all these things happened to you.
So it's almost like there's something attached to my family. And I think there
is because of that photo Chapter ten. It's titled Chapter ins, titled the
Picture, and it's a picture of my dad and my mom took it of
him back in like the early seventies and they were in leven, Missouri,
and they were at a park endowing you know, there were young Mary trouble
and she took a picture of him in broad daylight and the polaroid shows what
looks like a bat, a hat man or a hat man. Yeah,
it almost looks happened a bat too. Is that a battle or no,
it's so the pictures all blurred now though. Okay, when I first thought,
when I first saw it, when I was like probably thirteen, it
was hanging on the fridge. My mom had a it was on the fridge
like with a magnet, and I made a sandwich and I remember I looked
to my right and it caught my eye and I was like, I'd never
seen the picture before. I walked up to it, and you know,
having crystal clear vision my whole life, I looked at this picture and I'm
like, what the frig? And it was way more visible back then,
but blurred since then. But back then it was you could you could see
it a lot better. But now it's it's like if I could show it
to you now and you stood back and looked at it, you could see
that it's it's actually a neck sticking out of like a black Oh, I
see it now, I see it now. Okay, yeah, yeah,
okay, I see. So those two pointy things on the top, you
see the stew point of things. Yellows are actually or horns. Yep,
he's got a brim hat and then he's got you can see his nose and
it looks like he's looking right at your dad. Yeah, I mean it
is. It's creepy, bro. And my mom. My mom actually stole
the picture from me because I had it. I had it in a book.
She snuck in my problem and she took it well, and I was
like, well, I know you took the pictures. She's like, I
don't know what you're talking about, Like, moll, come on, because
I had told her. I was like, I'm going to take this.
I'm going to go down to San Diago State University. I'm going to have
him scan it when I haven't professionally scan it with their equipment. And I
wanted to get all the three dimensional properties all that stuff. And when I
told her that I should have never folded, I told her that she gave
me this look and I was like then me and my older brother Neil started
talking and then she stuck in my room at my landlord's house and she stole
the picture and I got it back. I finally got it back to my
brother Neil, and I haven't now, but that's no doubt that's what that
is. Yeah, I can see that now. But also you're putting all
caps that you wanted to make sure that people knew that the first five out
of body experiences did happen in Lebanon, Missouri. Well not, the first
five out of our experience is just the first the first five jury. Oh,
I see, I see. I'm sorry. Okay, okay, my
bad. Can we talk a little bit about your brushes of death and how
it impacted your life? Yeah? Absolutely, So we moved to Visa,
California. We had moved. We had moved into a house on Eucalyptus Avenue,
which is like it's talked too far from Escondido Avenue for all you locals
that lived here a long time now it's told Civic Centered Drive, I believe,
and Vista. So we were living on Eucalyptus and uh, I'm telling
you the enemy was trying to kill me. Dude. I know he was
because one of them, one of them is where I hit my head like
really hard. I was playing like a water balloon fight or something with my
sisters and we had this steep driveway, like a short little driveway, and
I was backing up and there was all water running on the driveway. I
was backed up and I split and I was like, well when I hit
the back of my head on the on the driveway, and my sisters ran
in and they were like mom, Mom, Mom, And this is what
they told me. They're like, mom, uh, you know, calls
on moving, he's not moving. And my mom went and got me and
she laid me down on the couch and that's what you see. And she
laid me on the couch and she said, I kept going in and out
of consciousness, and uh, I think it's like part two maybe of Brushes
and Brushes of Death. Yep, and uh, he lays me on the
couch and and that's one where it's this hospital of horrors and twins on a
loop. So I go to this hospital, dude. It was really Uh
it was interesting because when I went, there was a Radies Children's hospital.
Back in the day. And this is so long ago that it was when
gatorade. Gatorade was like three or four flavors, the taste of like crap.
Yep, you had lemon orange and the fruit punch. That was it.
Yeah, there you go. So they had these ivs in my arm
and it would get so sore. They would just press a button and nurse
come over and switch it to the other arm. And so that went on
for like three or four days, and I couldn't really eat me. They
I had traumatic brain injury, and they had twins, the movie Twins.
They had on a loop like it just it would finish playing and it would
start all over like it was. It was torture, dude. And and
while that was happening, I was in a giant room with probably eight or
ten kids, I'm guessing, and this one girl, man, oh gosh,
I feel so bad for it. I don't know what was wrong with
her, but she would laugh. She would laugh, like literally like the
joker, like she would just laugh and laugh and laugh until she would cry.
And she would keep laughing like she couldn't stop laughing, and she would
cry, and then she would pass out and then she would wake up and
it would start all over again. And so you know, this was like
three or four days of hell. And so I don't remember anybody coming to
see me. I mean, my mom might have, I don't know,
but I do remember towards the end well, while I was there, I
remember praying for her because it was it's interesting, like as horrible as a
time I was having, I my heart went out to this girl because she
was I knew she was suffering. It was it was horrible. I knew
she was she was tormented. She was absolutely tormented. And it actually,
I write this in the book, that when you focus on someone else,
it actually helps you forget kind of for a moment, what you're going through.
And so I kind of, uh, all of a sudden what I'm
going through. Didn't seeing that bad and considering her position, you know.
Yeah, And I was probably ten. I was probably like nine or ten,
and I was able to realize that back then. I remember praying for
I was praying, asking me God, use your pain or whatever. And
then I think the next day, maybe my mom comes down and the doctor
says, I'm The doctor and my mom were staying at the front of my
bed, and I was, you know, I was very attentive and listening
to every word they said. And my mom was like, so is he
can be able to come home today? And the doctor was like, well,
I remember watching his mouth. He's like, well, if he can
finish this burger, he can keep it down, you can go. Oh.
It's like, well, mission, that's you know, set. So
I remember thinking I'm like, I'm gonna chew this until it's haste and then
I want to swallow it and I'm getting out of here. And that's exactly
what I did. And uh so that changed me a lot, kind of
like kind of video game like. It gave me a boost of maturity,
if you will, just that experience. And then there was another I was
on a bicycle and I just had a bright idea seeing how fast I can
get how fast I could ride the bicycle down the hill because I was like
scared to do it, and I was like, no, I'm gonna do
this. I'm gonna talkor my piers. And there was a total blind turn
and there's the big tall trees on either side of the intersection, so his
giant Like I guess it was a residential private drive and it's this super steep
hill that it actually passes through eucalyptus, and Eucalyptus was a decently active road
right and so I remember my pedal, pedal, pedal all the way down.
And as I was paddling, I see this car coming to my left.
I was sick. Well, yeah, to commit now, So I
just kept battling and I pushed all the way. I was lying down the
cell. I flew through the through the street that went, I crossed over
Eclyptus, and as I did that in this car, was like and uh,
undoubted, they gave the guy an heart attack, right, brought off
of them and uh so that was out and I almost died there. And
then uh, let's see what else was it? Oh yeah, and then
uh the gang of guys that was crazy. Man. We we went to
church and my mama is she's so awesome, Like she would she would go
and find kids that were poor, right, and uh like they she she
would she would find kids in the neighborhood, in the community that couldn't go
to church, and she would offer to take in the church. And we
had like this van and there were six of us kids anyways, so my
mom was just looked at it like, well, let's take a gag little
kids with me to church, right, I might as well add a few
more. We had these other Yeah, so we had these We had these
other kids. And on the way home from church, I think my siblings
rowly you know, pester me and uh And because I was, like I
said earlier, trying to deal with all these emotions and this supernatural stuff going
on in my life. You know, I didn't know how to deal with
it all. So I would get frustrated, right, and so I couldn't
explain myself because I was so young, and no one would listen to me
anyways, So you can imagine the frustration. So I would when I would
get super frustrated, they would keep pestering me, and I would bite my
arm right like, it's kind of funny, but at the same time,
it's not right because you got to figure if the kids doing that to himself,
there's obviously something wrong, right, right, right, there's something deeper
to that. Yeah, and uh, nobody ever tried to figure it out.
And my siblings kind of had fun with it, and they would kind
of pester me, and so something like that I think was happening. And
we're in the van and I started getting kicked off and I said something.
I might have yelled or I might have rose my voice or whatever. And
my mom did she she didn't, she didn't play game. She did not
mess around. So coming from Missouri, like you would get spanked. It
didn't matter where you were. You could be in the grocery store, you
could be in church, you could be at school, matter. My mom
would just spank you right there, like if you were disobeying or being a
little stink, she would just thank you and not like a little little swat,
like she would grab you and just start smacking your butt hard and you
know, leave a sting and you'd cry and you would stop doing it.
And so she pulled off real quick into it. It was a back then.
It was a big parking lot, and there was a Vista library and
uh there was like a tennis courts up above. And now it's like now
it's the Civic Center and now it's all different. But back then there was
a giant dirt lot. And she pulled off and she opened the door.
She said get out. She said, we're not We're not putting up with
your attitude or something like that. She's like, you're gonna go cool off.
You're gonna go cool off at the park. And I was like,
what, it's like nine years old, and I might have been ten.
I was either nine or ten, and and I wanted to statement case.
I wanted to, like, you know, I wanted to defend myself,
like, hey, they were you know, they were fighting two and I'm
not the only guilty one. Here. She's like, she said, if
you go home, I'm going to thank you. So go sit at the
park and think, well, what you did or whatever. I started crying.
I went up to the park. I saturdneath the tree, and I
was little ticked off off, you know, feeling sorry for myself. And
all of a sudden, I hear this gang of guys. There was probably
five seven dudes, and these guys were like sixteen eighteen, like older.
And I remember I started getting scared because here I am sitting at this park,
you know, where gang members and whoever else goes through. And I'm
sitting in my Sunday's best with like nice shorts and a nice shirt. I'll
sit under a tree all over himself, crying like the little sissy, La
la. And then and I hear these guys and then I hear one of
them say hey. Then and they say something. I look over and I'm
like oh, And I was like frozen and beer like. I was thinking
to if I get up and take off, they're going to beat the crappa,
right, which is what I should have done. I should have taken
off, but I stayed there, and all of a sudden, next thing,
I know this rock. One of the guys threw a rock and did
be right in my side. And it was a little bit smaller than a
tennis ball, bigger than a golf ball. I mean, this thing hit
me right in my ribs. It felt like somebody kicked me in my rib
and I immediately I was like uh, and I just started crying. I
kind of like bent over and I was like holding my side and they all
walked up and they surrounded me. They all surrounded me and talking trash,
call me a little baggot, this and that, you know, like,
uh, it was terrifying, bro, Like I thought these guys were gonna
kill me or beat me up or you know whatever. So I remember the
leader he was looking at me like they were making fun of me. For
ten seconds, I long, and the leader with some older Mexican dude,
he might he had to have been like sixteen or eighteen, and he looked
at me and was like hey, He's like, what are you doing here?
Oh by yourself? And then he looked up out on them all crying,
and I like, I remember I because it kind of knocked the air,
knocked the wind out of me. So I looked up, I was
like my family left me here, and you could tell that they all kind
of started to get quiet. They they were like, oh, this poor
guy. You know, they felt bad. I kept living. Yeah,
a couple of them kept making fun like saying something like oh, poor baby,
or right, and then I could tell just on his face, I
can tell he looked at me and he was like, oh, He's like,
why don't you get the bleep out of here? Like I don't put
that in the book, I said. He just says, why don't you
to get out of here? He's like, why don't you get that out
of here? Like he basically took it easy on me. And so I
remember I just got up and I was in pain, and I remember I
was like I just got to go. It's like I pushed my weight through
him. And they all kept making fun of me and clowning on me,
and and uh So I walked all the way home and I'm so mad at
my mom and my siblings, and I was just sobbing the whole way home.
And that was one of those times, you know, just uh,
I can't think of the other time I having a brain for it, right,
no no worries. But the other thing that I wanted to get to
because it was one of the more interesting things that piqued my interest. Is
you talked about you moved to one house that had a pentagram on it,
and then you moved to an apartment I think it was Breezewood or Breeze Hill,
and you had a really interesting experience where you think that you saw the
what was it the Angel from the Garden of Eden. Yeah, that's uh,
yeah, that was I was intense, man, real real intent.
So the yeah, the the one on Rolling Hills Road. That's the lord
of the pentagram. The guy who owned the house with a real piece of
work this day brought a piece of trash. He he would literally walk into
her house undernounced, and he would bring his wife with him, and she
would always look down on the ground. You know, I'm going to keep
myself from saying stuff because I don't want to. I don't want people to
write. So he let's just say he was culturally different and his wife never
said a word. He never looked at us. But I remember thinking there
was something weird going on there. And this guy, dude, this guy,
he uh, he had no compassion, He had no empathy. And
he would always, you know, demand money and this and that it wouldn't
fix anything, just your typical slumlord. And so but this house and we
moved in, this house had a pentagram painted on one of the walls.
So one night I was sleeping in our in my bed and uh I had
to share the I had to share the bedroom with my two sisters. And
uh I had just recently gotten back from fifth grade camp. And for fifth
grade camp we all with Almar Mountain and while there we all got to do
certain things. And one of the things we got to do is they let
us brand our own leather. So we would cut out, uh we'd cut
out an arrowhead shape out of this patch of leather right, and we would
take this arrow leather arrowhead and we would stamp it like a hot iron.
We got to stand you choose the different symbols, and we stamped at a
bunch of time, branded it a bunch of times, and then we braided
our French braided that the strand or the necklace part of it. And so
it was a green and yellow necklace with a leather arrowhead on it. And
this necklace was sitting on top of a wicker basket that was at the foot
of my bet. So this one night, I was asleep in my bed
and then I just remember waking up in my dream having an out body experience
again, and it was really weird, like the room was kind of lit
up by moonlight, and I remember feeling this really strange feeling in my chest,
like almost like a like a vortec, almost like a you unplugged the
sink and the water goes down. So I started feeling this whirling in my
chest. And then there was like a face to my left. So I'm
hovering above my face on my chest or whatever, and I can tell there's
a face to my left, but I can't look at it. Do you
ever get that in your dream where you can't look at something? Sure?
Yeah, almost like a sleep analysis. Yeah, I guess it was.
But there was a face and he was like I called him the instigator because
he was clearly like instigating this the situation. Who was trying to he was
goading me, trying to getting me to I don't know, I guess tap
into something that I can do. I'm not really sure. I've never I've
never tried to do it. I've never tried to do it again. But
I'm certain of this that I was moving the necklace with my I don't know
what you would call it, my inter cheet or something. I don't know,
but I could feel this tirling in my chest. And then I looked,
and I remember looking. I looked up and I could see my feet,
and I remember seeing the necklace started. I could see it twirling up
in the air, and it slowly raised up in the air, and I
saw it twirling up in the air, probably about I don't know, a
couple of feet or something above the wicker basket, and I realized I was
doing it. And the face to my left was like, you can do
it, calling you could do it. He was like like, you know,
like chair beyond. Sure, And it freaked me out, and I
woke I woke up, and I was like, well, and I got
real scared because I knew what was going on, and I knew there was
something in the room that was, you know, chaired beyond, and I
knew immediately what it was. I was like, that's not God. This
is whatever the says is evil. And I jumped out of my bed and
I ran to my mom and I slept in the bed with my mom and
my dad, and yeah, it was creepy bro So then years later at
Breeze Hill, I had to share a bed with my brother West. He's
now dead. I was shared a bed of the West. Same thing.
I just wake up and I was sleeping in bed and I was I would
always have to take the inside right because he was older and bigger, so
he got to sleep on the outside of the fleet bed and I was up
against the wall, and I just sure he waked up in my dream and
I was in some field. I was like in this big open field,
and I could tell I was up in the air, probably I don't know,
ten feet in the air I was. I was clearly hovering. I
wasn't standing because I was because of how high I was. And this was
really crazy. So I just remember I remember seeing it was so vast.
I could see like the horizon, I could see mountains way off in the
distance, and I could tell wherever we were was elevated. It was pretty
high up. I don't know how high it was, but it definitely wasn't
sea level is. I could tell like there was either a drop off or
a cliff or something. I don't know, but I want to say probably
one hundred yards in front of me was nothing but like grass and flowers and
stuff. There was some trees, and then past that it seemed to be
like a drop off maybe or a hill. I'm not really sure, but
I could see really far out. I'm talking it must have been thousands of
miles, hundreds, if not thousands of miles. I could see way off
into the distance. It was an amazing view. It would have been something
that like, if you were a millionaire, you would build your house here
and you would have, you know, the view of a lifetime. It
was something like that. And so, but then as I was observing this,
something caught my eye. Looked over to my left and I see this
dude and this woman probably i'm guessing fifty yards away. They were butt naked,
and the guy was doing something. I couldn't tell what he was doing.
He was like it look like he was rummaging or doing something. And
this chick was standing behind him just kind of like almost like a child.
She was standing there just kind of like waiting for him to do something.
And she was just standing behind him by how many feet? And then I
see this black figure like it looked like it was in a robe or something.
It was just all black, and it looked like it was shuffling or
like waddling, or like walking up the Eve. I'm assuming it was Eve.
It was walking up behind her. It wasn't a snake, but what
I could tell it to me, it looked like, uh, maybe a
person wearing a robe or something. But it was shorter than Eve was.
And as soon as I saw that, then all of a sudden, my
entire view this this this face shot up in front of me, almost like
it came up to me and shot and stood up, or like, I
don't know, jumped up in front of me. I don't know what it
was, but this face had this face it uh, it was like light
blue and white. It didn't seem evil. It just seemed extremely powerful.
And it uh, it had these eyes that shot straight through me. I
mean, I'm talking. It looked right into my eyes and it shot like
in the book I put. It shot through my spirit, passed my soul
and into my body, and it sandwiched all three together, and I woke
up like a mouse trapped dude. I mean, I'm I woke up gasping
for air. It literally took my breath away from a dead sleep. That's
how that's how much this scared me. I mean, it scared the crap
out of me. It scared me way more than you know, the thing
trying to get me to twirl the necklace or whatever. Like. Whatever this
thing was, I could tell it was extremely powerful, but I didn't get
the sense that it was evil. I just got the sense like it wanted
to be out of there and it wouldn't be gone now. And and so
in the in the book, I say that I'm pretty sure it was the
angel. I think it was an angel that God put to protect the garden.
And you know it. So when people talk about the Bible, they
say, you know that I saw an angel and I fell down dead and
I was weak, I couldn't get up. I get it. I understand
what you're saying, Like when you see when I saw this thing, it
was there. There is no fire, there's no you're not going to do
it, like this thing could utterly destroy you. And so that's why angels
are always saying, do not be afraid. Like they have to tell you
over and over, like calm down, it's okay, I'm not going to
kill you. That's what this was. I know it was because it and
I told this. I had a conversation again with Scipio, and I talked
to him sometimes about some stuff because I refect him so much, and he's
an amazing dude. He's so smart and he knows the virus so well,
and he thought it's pretty interesting. But yeah, I go on to talk
about it made me ponder this figure in the black robe, and I made
sure to state that I'm not saying I know for sure what it was,
but at the same time, it definitely was not an ache. And my
own conjecture, my own belief is I think there's a little bit of truth
to the whole reptilian thing. Now I don't think I don't think it's what
David Ike says, but it definitely seems to me that. So when you
read Genesis, I think it's Genesis chapter three, and I go into it
when you go to When you read chapter three, in my opinion, God
is clearly talking to a creature. So everyone assumes that he's talking to the
devil. I don't think he is. When you read it, read it
again, going to Genesis and read from King James or New King James or
whatever. He's saying that he's going to curse this thing. You're cursed above
all, cattle above all. In other words, he's comparing it to its
own kingdom. So, but what I think it is, this is my
own belief. I think whatever this thing was that I say, it's possibly
that it was the basilist, and the bascialist the basilist is like a folklore.
Like people say it existed, people say it didn't. I think it
did. I think it existed, And I think this thing was a special
creature, just like Lebiathan. Lebiathan was part of the Reptilian kingdom, and
I think this thing was part of the Reptilian kingdom. And both things are
subjugated under the dominion of Lucifer. I think Lucifer was the arch angel that
was in charge of the Reptilian kingdom, because you got the you get the
four special angels, the four arch angels in heaven. One looks like an
oxen, one looks like an eagle, one looks like you see what I'm
saying, yep. So each arch angel is responsible for a certain like a
section of creation, and I think Lucifer was in charge of the Reptilians or
reptile kingdom. And there's also a Jewish name. I believe it's the Seraphig.
I think it's the serapheme is the fire serpent like that. So,
and I believe that when it's talking about the seed and he says, your
seed will be at enmity with the womans, I believe that we're talking about
the seed. I think the seed is some kind of a hybrid freak or
whatever from whatever this thing was. Whatever this thing was, it had the
ability to talk to Eve, had the ability to the guile Eve right now,
if that means that it hypnotizer or I don't know what that means.
But apparently the Bassilist, the Basilist had the ability to hypnotize people. And
it's supposedly had yellow eyes just like Leviathan did. So the more you dig
into this stuff, I'm telling you there's something here. There's something to it,
and I can't prove it. But but Skipio made a good point.
He said, just you know, just make sure you don't let your you
know, supernatural experiences out about experiences or whatever that. Don't let that dictate
how you understand and perceive the Bible. I was like, no, absolutely,
you are. You're a Herbsteak corrent. So my mom always told me
to no matter what it is, compared it to the Bible and just go
from there. So yeah, that Garden of Eden, I'm telling you,
bro, that was crazy. This was one of the craziest things I've ever
experienced. That's intense. Oh, it was super intense, really intense.
When you're writing this book, obviously you're bringing up some old memories of things
that caused you difficult times, and it kind of brought up some you know,
I know a lot of the things me personally that I've buried back in
the head. And that's one of the reasons that I've mentioned before when I
write some of the you know, when i'm writing, when I bring some
of these stories up, you know, you got to kind of go for
a walk, and because it does kind of rip the band aid off these
old wounds. And I'm sure you know Chapter thirteen was dedicated to your brother,
John Wesley Wright, and you know, after that incident, you started
going through a lot. You were being expelled from schools and just kind of,
you know, explain to the audience how that really changed you Yeah,
it definitely so. Like I said earlier, I've had a lot of trauma.
But God Jesus has been with me the whole time. He's given me
the ability to mentally handle it, you know. Uh, He's allowed me
to weather the storm, so to speak. And and yeah, being expelled
from the schools, that was, that was pretty rough. That was another
time where I almost died. I was drunk and that's the one where I
was going to fight that kid and he was gonna stab me. He would
have he would have killed me for sure. And my friend actually saved my
life. And that was shortly after That was shortly after West died, and
that would have absolutely that would have crushed and crippled my family. There's no
doubt about it. The death of West. Really it really shook my mom
and she had a hard time, you know, am. And if I
had died that night that I had, I can't imagine what would have happened.
I but yeah, it was. My life has been very difficult.
It's been very very unusual, very unique. And I give all credit to
Jesus Christ. Like without Jesus in my life, I probably would have killed
myself or I probably would have overdosed on drugs or I probably would have you
know, any number of things, because there's at least three or four times
that I should have died, like the car wreck, Like there's there's at
least two times where where time literally slowed down. And at the time when
I was in the car and my buddy Jason Hymes, he was driving,
and we would get on the freeway and I had no seatbell on. I
was in the back seat in an old I think buick, and his girlfriend
Candace was set up front of the passenger and we're getting on the three way
five going north and we're coming up on the Lost Flora's exit and I just
happened to look, and it was at nighttime. It was probably seven or
eight o'clock at night, and I see this white band in the slow land,
like not moving. It was part no Hazard's on, no lights on
or nothing. And I see this and I'm like Jason, and I point
at it and he slams on the brakes and he's like, sixteen, right,
we're just leaving Bible group at the beach. We had like a Bible
group in girls bed and so we're sixteen, dude, and maybe seventeen.
But yeah, I should have died like it had I. So he slams
on the brakes and as he's the car locks up and it's like right,
and so the ice can. I can still see it, like the car
slowly going and just time just slows down, and I see out the window
I've watching this white band just slowly passed fire or right, and then all
of a sudden, in the right side or my ear, like in my
head, I hear this just very direct, very stern voice, and get
down, like it was a direct order. And as soon as I heard
that, I was like, I laid as flat as a board. I
laid down the back seat. It's flat as a board, bro. And
as soon as I did that, boom, crash, bang bang, like
we pen bawled across like three lanes on the freeway. So what's crazy is
that I didn't even get hurt. Like I hit the top of my head
on the on the back door on the right, the right door in the
hind passenger. I hit the top of my head, but I could feel
my body elevate and get bounced back and forth of the upholstery. It was
creasy, dude. It was insane and Jason actually whacked his head really hard,
and so did Candace. And I remember we came to the stop.
I could they're semi behind us, and its headlights are blaring through the back
window. The back the window was all busted out and the glasses all over
all over me, and inside the car, hear people honking their horns and
Jason and Candas were like holding their head and stuff. And I remember I
rose up and I could tell I wasn't hurt. I looked at Jason in
the back and said, and I could see the blood just gushing out of
the back of the bed, and I had the presence of mind. I
knew immediately what to do, and I was like Jason and I just stayed
calm. I was like Jason, I took his left hand. I was
like, I want you to put pressure right here, as hard as you
can. So he put pressure right on the wound and then he started crying,
you know, and you know I understand because he didn't want to die.
And uh, I told him I got to get canvas out, I'll
be right back, and when I come back for he he kept calling for
me, and I remember I got out of the car and got her out,
walked her over, and that's when the cop walked up. We were
all three of us on the side of the shoulder and I see the really
tightly rolled wad of twenties and I went to go pick it up, and
this cop walked up and stepped on it. Bro He stepped up and picked
it up and looked at it just so like, you know, let me
know. And they walked up. I heard, Oh, my goodness,
that is Yeah, that's that's what I mean. My life is just full
of stuff like that. And people look at me like, oh sure,
Bud, I'm like, no, for real, like that that's all that
happened to me. Yeah, you know, sorry, go ahead, go
ahead him go ahead. No, no, go right ahead. I'll just
to say so, you know, like the other time times slowed down.
I was at the the Hooya Indian Reservation and that's why I fell on the
fire. And this fire had been going for like two days. I mean,
this site was hot. It had probably at least a foot of red
embers like coals. It was a big old fire the custom made with like
boulders and stuff from around the campsite, and this was it had all kinds
of logs and fired. It was crazy broke, and Roach poked me in
the butt with a stick because it was cold. Yeah, literally at the
picture right right now that you drew. Yeah, I had my I had
my back to the fire and just freezing. And luckily I was wearing like
pants, and I had a polyester jacket that Leah shout out to the older
such Leah, she got me this jacket like a thrift store and had a
polyester coating on it and it said Burt. I called it my Burt jacket.
So I was rocking my bird jacket. I had really long hair,
like a hippie almost, and I had a hat on, so I luckily
I had a hat on that had my hair tucked back, and I had
my hat on. So when he poked me in the butt, I turned
to my left. I was like, you bastard, and I went to
kick him. So I kicked him my right. But the fire, the
fire pit was at like a slight incline, so I was actual standing on
a little bit of a slope and it had loose, loose dirt, and
so when I went to kickle with my right, my left foot's all and
it fell out and Dude, as soon as our left foot slipped out time
again at times like slowed down like the main Remember yes, literally, Bro,
And I remember thinking like one thousand miles an hour. I remember saying
like, well, if you do this, this is what's gonna happen.
And I remember coming to my mind. I remember thinking the best option is
to take a breath. It's gonna hurt, you know. Basically, if
you don't want to get surgery burns and lose your arm or lose your hand
and lose part of your face, take a breath, hitch your side on
the wood of the fire or the rocks or something, and then that'll give
you cushion and I can basically want to blow out the air. I'll be
able to bounce off from that. I'll bounce off and roll off the fire.
That's exactly what I did. And Bro, I stood up and everyone's
like, oh my god, my buddy. Ellie was like, dude,
you just pull some neo easily pulled some neo bleep, And I was standing
in my on my right side, my right side was no, this is
my left side is My left side was all jack And I'm pretty sure I
either cracked the rib possibly or I did something. I hurt myself pretty bad,
but uh, I saved my hand, I'd saved my face. And
it was crazy. It was like everything I thought to do is exactly what
I needed to do, and I did it in a matter of probably a
second, but it seemed to take like four seconds. It was. It
was very bizarre. It was like and they said that when I hit the
fire. They said that I made like a like a really loud like air
was leaving my body like really forcefully, and my throat was really sore for
like a whole day because all that air got shoved out of my lungs.
I probably almost collapsed along, honestly, because I landed on my ribcage cheez,
and it allowed me to bounce off of it, just like I thought
I was gonna do. It's crazy, that is insane. So yeah,
And the whole left side of my face was like like a like an old
man, like a bald dude's head, like it was super smooth, look
at baby, But my eyebrow was sinned. My my sideburns were gone,
like just being over the fire for half a second that that fast, and
my my jacket got melted. My hat got melted a little bit. It
was crazy. Yeah, yeah, and get and get getting those type of
burns or are life altering that the graphs and just the years of of healing
with all this stuff. So you're you were certainly blessed that that God was
looking out for you that day A hun percent. I wanted to cover one
more thing and then kind of close it out. But I think it's important
that we mentioned chapter nineteen because ultimately, you know, the reason that you
wrote the book was to help and I'm quoting here directly from your book,
to help others find their way to Jesus through their supernatural experiences in life.
And you had gone through many in your life and you knew it would help
others make sense of theirs. So if you wouldn't mind, would you talk
a little bit about your time at Albertson's and your relationship with Lynette and how
that changed everything. Oh wow, Yeah, that's a that's a good one,
George, if the good one. Uh yeah. So Lynnette was a
very special person. She she fighted in me. I got to know her
to worked with her in the deli, and during this time I was running
to and from work. Okay, So every day I was running probably two
miles, two and a quarter miles. It's actually the same time that I
came up with the concept of my running two that I'm trying to get patented.
It actually forces you to run correctly and on the way to work.
This is gonna sound it's gonna sound odd. But I had an old walkman,
a CD walkman. Oh they were terrible school ones. It would carry
a single CD, right yep. So I had this crazy idea. I
remember thinking, I was like, I wonder if I run this way,
if if the CD will skip? And so I did. I ran to
work because I was already running the work, so I just figured I might
as well have fun with it. So I jogged the work. And what
I realized was by running how I was r versus you know, planting the
traditional way people planning the heel. So I ran both ways. And what
I realized is that my way of running would actually it actually skipped way less
like it would still skip a little bit, but the other way it would.
So in other words, I thought of this, well, well,
this time I thought of this idea of the running show. At the same
time, I'm telling you about Hnette. So I was running to work one
day. She had recently tried to she wanted to I had missed to say,
wanted to hook up with me. And me and her we liked each
other. And so I remember God was like putting on my heart, like
to to be a good witness to her right. And so she wanted me
to look at some pictures that she had made, especially made like in a
studio and stuff, and she knows it was there were really nice, really
nice pictures. But I didn't feel comfortable looking at him. And I could
It was like I could feel God looking at him. I could steel him
watching me while I was sitting there talk with it. And so I told
her, I said, Lenette, I'm not going to look at those,
and she's like, what why. I was like, I just I don't
think it's the right thing to do. And she goes, she's like,
you're weird. She didn't know how to dig with it. So but I
remember I was scared. I was scared of what God would take of me.
I guess if I didn't do what he wanted me to do. So
so she by doing that, she I guess trusted me more, you know,
Yeah, and I told her, I said, look, if we're
gonna, if you and I are going to be a thing, I want
to do it right. I don't want to do something behind the back or
whatever. So she started telling me more stuff about her personal life and how
she experienced supernatural stuff. And I was like, oh, here we go,
it's right down my alley and so and so she was blown away with
stuff I would tell her. And she started telling me more stuff and her
dad she experienced. And so one night she was closing, it was her
turn to close. I was about ready to get ready to go home,
and so I did her favor and I took out all the trash. And
you have to take the trash out to the back and the compactor, so
at a giant, a big old metal flatbed. She to called the trash
back. But when I did this, I took all the trash back.
I told her, all right, I'm going to take the trash and then
I'll come back up and I'll go home, Like all right, so bend.
When I did that, I am coming back up to the deli.
I remember, I just I felt I needed to pray for I felt I
just started praying right. I was walking this really loud was when you push
these flatbeds by themselves, they're really loud, but if you put something on
them that they don't make a noise really, right, So I'm pushing this
thing up through the store, making all this racket, but I'm still praying
to myself. That's just a funny thing for me. So I'm going up
to the deli. What just proves that you can pray to God in any
situation, right, Yeah, So I'm praying in the situation and I'm like,
God, I pray that you use me to speak to Neet, I
said. I said something like that, like use me to Lynette, help
help me reach her and bring you glory and help me witness to her,
something like that. And so I get to the deli. I sit on
you know, I pushed the flatbed against the spot into the delhi and put
it away, and I get up on the table and and something can tell
me to just start talking her. It's like, thanks, Colin, I
really appreciate it. She said, you know this and that, And then
I started talking to her. She was standing probably tend fee to away from
me, and I was sitting on the table. And then I started telling
her why I did want to look at the photos and how much I cared
about her, and I started talking to her about God and dude, the
next thing I know, I'm sitting there and then I feel It's like in
the book I put. The best way to describe it is like you're driving
right and it's like you put the car in cruise control, and then you
turn on the heater, and then you climb into the back seat and the
Holy Spirit sitting passenger, and he slides over and he takes over the wheel,
and then you're in the back seat and you just put your head back
and you close your eyes, and that's that's just the best way I could
describe what happened. It was like I was talking to her and I started
feeling warm, and I could like slowly I remember, I'm assuming my eyes
rolled back because I remember like zoning out, and I could hear myself talking,
but I could hear it was like you ever seen that movie get Out?
No? I have not, Huh, Okay, well, there's a
part in that movie that reminds me when I'm describing right now. So it's
almost like I was sinking back into myself and I could hear my voice,
but it started like fading out. It was bizarre, and I just felt
warm and tingly, and and then all of a sudden, next thing,
I know, Linet, it's like calling, and and I like, I
like, come back, right, I come back, and I'm looking at
her and I'm like trying to focus, and I'm not sure what just happened.
And she's like wide eyed looking at me, and she's crying. She's
had tears on her face, and she's like calling, and I was like
what, I like shook him, like what She's like, you were glowing.
I was like what And I didn't know what the heck, I didn't
know what. I didn't know what was going on. All I know is
is that that's what happened. That's what she told me. And I was
when she said that I was looking at her. I was freaked out.
I was scared. And then and it was like for a second or two,
we're looking at each other, and then I saw her get like really
embarrassed or like I could see like she was like ashamed to look at me,
and then she she she turned her face and she she walked away from
me, and it was just it was all God, it wasn't me,
had nothing to do with me. It was the Holy Spirit showed up.
I know it was the Holy Spirit. It wasn't me. So she she
saw she saw. I don't know what she saw. I just know that
she said I was glowing. So what exactly does that mean? The only
thing I can think of is in the story of Moses when he came down
and he was glowing and everyone that they said, cover your face, we
don't want to look at you. So it's it's the Holy Spirit showed up
and convicted her, and that's why she felt so ashamed. And she wouldn't
talk to me, and so I was freaking out. I didn't know what
was going on. I was scared. I was like, oh my gosh,
what has happened? And nothing like that had ever happened to me before,
and uh, you know, she wouldn't talk to me, and so
I was it was real awkward, and so I was like, Okay,
well, I guess I'll talk to you later, and she just, you
know, she kept sweeping up the deli and all the lights were off,
and so I walked out the doors. I said, all right, good
night, let that and she she said, all right good night, and
she would look at me and yeah, so it was. It was very
uh, and it's very humbling and very sobering. And let me tell you,
when God chooses to when God chooses to answer a prayer, a lot
of times she'll do it in a way that you could never imagine. So
she obviously impacted her. And so that was a witness to her. I
know it was. And I prayed for her beause she was barren, she
couldn't have children, and so I told her I prayed, I prayed for
her, and I was like six months later or whatever it was, she
she got pregnant and she had a she had a baby boy. And she
told me that was that's that's what she wanted in life more than anything.
And so I prayed for her, like earnestly prayed for her because I my
heart went out to her and I loved her. I cared about her,
and and so uh when she told me that, I told her, I
took her by the shoulder and I said, Lynette, I want you to
know that I prayed for you. God answered my prayer. He gave me
the baby. And she started crying and she's like, oh, by gosh,
I believe you. I totally believe you, because she had given up.
She thought she was never going to have a kid. Sure, and
so that was all gone. And then me and my buddy or Esta went
to the ball and her baby boy was turning one. Wow. So I
went, I bought this. I bought this denim jacket, and I bought
the jacket and I had it embroidered on the back wonderboard because it wasn't supposed
to be bored. She just started crying. I gave her the jacket.
She started crying, and it was just a really cool thing. And God
is absolutely made. That was all. It's an amazing story. Uh.
And it's a great book. And the last thing I did what to do
before you addressed the audience, thank you for putting at the very end of
the Bible the book. You you gave specific instructions on how to get saved,
but you also noted that you don't have to read the Bible first in
order to be saved, and you actually give you know, a step by
step directions on how to get saved. So kudos to you on that for
for putting that in there. And uh, again, folks, I'll have
the links in the show notes. You can get it on Kindle if you
prefer it that way, hardcover paperback. It's all available for you. And
one thing I will tell you is Amazon is pretty quick about it. I
think I got mine in two days so, and you know, it was
a rainy day and they were a little careless with it. But I have
another one. My replacement is coming on Saturday. You know, what are
you going to do? But again, thanks for your time, thanks for
sharing your story. And it's quite a story, quite a journey, and
I certainly want to give you the the last bit of this podcast to address
the audience with your thoughts and anything else you'd like to add. Yeah,
thank you, George, and thank you for letting me come on. You're
always so humble man. Yeah, I got a lot of respect for you,
dude. And I don't I don't say this. I give credit work
due. I'm the type of person might get me a compliment. It's it's
sincere. I don't just say it. I'm talking to it. But so
you're the real deal. I wanted to say, everyone listening, like I
say in the book on the back, I'm the back of the book.
Jesus is knocking on your heart, and he loves everybody. He does.
He's not a respect for persons. So it doesn't matter who you are,
doesn't matter what you've done, he will. He will redeem you, just
like he redeemed me. I'm a filthy senter. Let's let's get something straighter.
I'm a filthy sinner just like everybody else. So I'm not better than
you. You know, I'm not more special than you. It just so
happens that, for whatever reason, I'm going to find out when I get
to Heaven, I'm gonna ask God all kinds of questions. You know,
you know, why he did this, why I did that. I'm sure
he's gonna tell me that He isn't been a wisdom decided to allow me to
go through these saints. And he loves you just like he loves me.
And yeah, just start reading the Bible. Just read the Bible. This
is just read the Bible. The truth is in there. Go to God.
If you know you're looking around and you see stuff, how it's going
on in the world. Prophecies are fulfilling. The Lord's coming back, and
people are still gonna mock, but Jesus is coming and you need to get
saved. Don't put it off, because no man knows if he's going to
live tomorrow. I might die tonight, I might die tomorrow. I don't
know. So if you have the chance now to get saved, get saved,
because that's it. That's all I say, And that's a great way
to close it right. Nobody's guaranteed tomorrow, So get saved and profess it
out loud while in prayer. Again, if you'd like to reach out to
Colin, his email address will be in the show notes, and of course
the links to many things that we talked about during this conversation, we'll be
in there. If you have a podcast and you'd like to bring him on,
reach out to him. I'm sure he'd love to share his story and
and get this out there. So again, thank you so much Colin for
your time and listen. Congratulations on it's a huge deal to say that your
your author, Joseph Colin Wright, So kudos to you and uh and uh
your message and much success to you. God bless everyone to have a great
week, and again, keep your head on a swivel. And until the
next time we meet, my friends, we will see you. I know
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