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Oh you see how simple it is, missus 27 00:03:36,199 --> 00:03:38,960 Willoby. You make your own money, just exactly the way the government does. 28 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:44,360 You put this blank piece of paper in the machine, join the crank. 29 00:03:46,039 --> 00:03:51,199 Doubt comes a brand new one dollar bill, It certainly does. Yeah. 30 00:03:51,639 --> 00:03:53,840 Now those one dollar bills I made up yesterday with this machine. You 31 00:03:54,319 --> 00:03:58,360 took them to the bank, Yes, and they said it was real money. 32 00:03:58,639 --> 00:04:00,599 You see what I mean? And you saw me make them, made 33 00:04:00,599 --> 00:04:03,400 them right in front of your eyes. With this machine. You sure did. 34 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,639 Oh, you give me ten thousand bucks and it's yours. You can 35 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,479 make as much money as you want whenever you want. Ten thousand dollars. 36 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,720 That's right. Tell me, mister crane, why are you so anxious to 37 00:04:15,759 --> 00:04:19,120 sell this machine? Oh? You would have to do is turn the crank 38 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,959 and that would come real bills. Lady, I've got a lot of machines. 39 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,279 I want to sell them and quit. That's simple, isn't it. 40 00:04:26,319 --> 00:04:29,399 You've got plenty of dough. But there's enough larceny in you, you say, 41 00:04:30,079 --> 00:04:32,639 don't let it buy you. Lady, there's larceny in everybody. Proof 42 00:04:32,639 --> 00:04:36,000 that it's in you is that you asked me to come back today, mister 43 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:41,920 Crane. I'll give you ten thousand dollars for your machine. Good, providing 44 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,800 I'm sure that the paper you insert in the machine is actually the one that 45 00:04:45,879 --> 00:04:49,279 comes out as a dollar bill. Oh that ought to be simple. Yeah, 46 00:04:49,319 --> 00:04:54,079 I'll put my initials on the blank paper. If my initials appear on 47 00:04:54,079 --> 00:04:57,000 the bill when it comes out, I'll buy the machine. Oh wait, 48 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,279 I've got a pen and ink right here, all right, now me one 49 00:05:00,319 --> 00:05:04,600 of your blank pieces of paper. All right, there you are, thank 50 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:12,839 you my initials e W. There we are, all right, mister Crane. 51 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:20,360 Okay, I'll take the paper. We're in the machine. They got 52 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:25,000 a brand new dollar bill there you are. Take a look at it, 53 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,160 missus Willoughby, a brand new buck with the initials e W on it, 54 00:05:29,319 --> 00:05:30,839 just as you put them on a blank piece of paper a second ago. 55 00:05:31,199 --> 00:05:34,639 It's the same piece of paper, and those are my initials. All right. 56 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:39,160 Oh, like I said, now, what about the ten grand? 57 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,759 What's to stop me from turning that crank handle ten thousand times, getting you 58 00:05:44,879 --> 00:05:48,759 ten thousand dollars and paying you with that? Nothing except I don't deliver you 59 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:54,360 the paper you need till I get your money. I have it here in 60 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:59,279 my safe. I'll get it. And I've got the paper all cut out 61 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,399 to dollar bills size right here too. You'll get the money, missus Willoughby, 62 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:32,199 and from now on you can manufacture your own the best kind handmade Malcolm 63 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,040 speaking. Is this the district attorney? Yes it is, Well it'd better 64 00:06:36,079 --> 00:06:41,120 be, and you'd better do something about me. I'd like very much too. 65 00:06:41,399 --> 00:06:45,680 Don't be cute. I'm Emily Willoughby and I've been swindled. I'm the 66 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,959 district attorney, and I'm very sorry. This is Willoughby. Tell me exactly 67 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,839 what happened and I'll do what I can. Well, somebody sold me a 68 00:06:51,879 --> 00:06:57,439 money making machine and it doesn't work, and I paid ten thousand dollars for 69 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,759 it yesterday. Aren't you calling me twenty four hours too late? Well? 70 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,720 Never mind. When I'm calling you, I want to do something. I 71 00:07:03,759 --> 00:07:06,399 want you to do something. I paid the man ten I know, ten 72 00:07:06,439 --> 00:07:10,759 thousand dollars. He demonstrated a machine and took blank paper and converted it into 73 00:07:10,839 --> 00:07:15,079 five dollar bills one dollar bill. But how did you know what he did? 74 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,040 It's a very old racket, missus Willoughby, and it wouldn't work except 75 00:07:17,079 --> 00:07:20,519 that people are such as yourself, are looking for something for nothing. Really, 76 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,720 have you any idea who the man is? He said his name was 77 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,959 Crane, Joe Crane. Do you know him? No? I don't. 78 00:07:28,519 --> 00:07:30,759 Do you know where you can get him so you can arrest him? No, 79 00:07:30,879 --> 00:07:32,079 but I'll have a man put on it right away. You shouldn't have 80 00:07:32,079 --> 00:07:35,279 had anything to do with Crane, missus, Willoughby. Look, don't talk 81 00:07:35,319 --> 00:07:39,639 to me like that. He's the criminal. I'm not the only reason you 82 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:53,600 aren't, missus Willoughby, is because the machine didn't work. Am I name 83 00:07:53,680 --> 00:08:01,720 the door? Ain't Hi Jean, Hi has chicks. So so that's with 84 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:07,399 you. Okay, get the money. What money? Oh, it's gonna 85 00:08:07,439 --> 00:08:11,839 be like Dan Joe. I'll give you money making machine and the gimmick that 86 00:08:11,839 --> 00:08:15,560 makes a foolproof. You had a sucker. Give me my cut of the 87 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,240 dough. You got all the machine. I couldn't get rid of it. 88 00:08:18,279 --> 00:08:20,639 The sucker got smart. Yeah, so I'll take the machine. Well, 89 00:08:22,319 --> 00:08:24,160 where is it? I can get a front man, get rid of it 90 00:08:24,199 --> 00:08:28,240 easy, come on, let's have it. I'll blow. I don't have 91 00:08:28,319 --> 00:08:33,600 it here. Oh so that's the way it is. Huh, Come on, 92 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,200 train, stop stalling, Jimmy, that machine roll breaking a dime? 93 00:08:37,279 --> 00:08:39,120 Spot? Where is it? Where is that? Call man, Jimmy my 94 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:45,480 machine, give it a roll? Choking up the double crossing? Right, 95 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:52,519 use a knife on me? Did you, Jenny? Get out of here? 96 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,639 Ah? So you killed snippy Joe. Now look don't scream, don't 97 00:08:58,639 --> 00:09:00,679 do nothing, just get out of here. Fair he was choking me. 98 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,440 I headed to it. You wouldn't want me dead, would you? You 99 00:09:03,639 --> 00:09:05,039 killed him? Yeah, I killed him. Now get out of here before 100 00:09:05,039 --> 00:09:07,320 you get wild and start yelling. So somebody out here you ain't get the 101 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,720 cops go opit it. I don't want you getting hysterical. Seems to me 102 00:09:11,799 --> 00:09:15,519 you're the one getting hysterical, Joe. I'm not take it easy. I 103 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,360 won't blow. All I'm gonna do is help you get rid of that knife 104 00:09:18,399 --> 00:09:33,240 you're holding and this body. Well, Vans, there's the body lying just 105 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,639 where a farmer found it, and it obviously had been knife somewhere else and 106 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,759 thrown from a car. You know who the victim is, Markham. Sergeant 107 00:09:39,799 --> 00:09:45,240 Heath identified him Larson as individual named Sniffy Edwards. I don't suppose this is 108 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,039 any case that will intrigue you, but you were in my office when the 109 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:52,399 call came, and I insisted on going with you. I know. Notice 110 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,919 anything peculiar about Sniffy Markham. No, he has a knife, phone in 111 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,639 his chest and he's dead, which certainly is normal enough. Look at his 112 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,200 shoe. Souls are very thick. Well, yes, I suppose they are. 113 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,080 But this isn't a case for you, Vans, It's undoubtedly an underworld 114 00:10:07,159 --> 00:10:09,879 murder, and Sergeant Heath will get whoever killed this man? Mind if I 115 00:10:09,919 --> 00:10:15,320 look at the souls a minute, Go ahead your penknife vans. You need 116 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,200 that to look with you never can tell what it will help me see. 117 00:10:18,639 --> 00:10:22,159 What you're doing is a little illegal vance? Oh, my friend, is 118 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,600 there such a thing as a little illegal I stand corrected? Do you find 119 00:10:26,639 --> 00:10:30,919 anything? Yes, there was a piece of paper and the soul of the 120 00:10:30,919 --> 00:10:35,840 shoe. Take a look. It's a diagram of some kind of machine. 121 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:43,879 Arrow indicates where blank paper is inserted, another arrow where money comes vance. 122 00:10:43,919 --> 00:10:46,720 I know what this is. It's the diagram for a money making machine. 123 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,000 I gotta complaint this morning from a Missus Willoughby that she had been swindled by 124 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,799 a Joe Crane who sold her a money making machine. This couldn't be a 125 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,559 coincidence, and all probability it isn't. I had a man traced Joe Crane. 126 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,759 He called in his address just before we left. I think perhaps we 127 00:10:58,799 --> 00:11:03,159 are. But see Crane, what about it. I'm with you. Let's 128 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,840 go call on Joe Crane and see if this plan for a money making machine 129 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:20,600 was the instigation of his plan to murder Sniffy Edwards. Come on, Jeannie, 130 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,919 hurried up. Okay, okay, Joe, this police is heavy. 131 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,600 It's the last one though. We're all packed made to move. He got 132 00:11:28,639 --> 00:11:31,000 plenty of gas in the car. Yeah, it's loaded up to the top, 133 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,840 and I got a fifteen gallon Canada back so we don't have to stop 134 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,720 for at least five hundred miles. Oh good, here, I'll put that 135 00:11:35,759 --> 00:11:43,360 bag in the back. Here, clows the backup. Come on, let's 136 00:11:43,399 --> 00:11:46,559 get in and get going. You think it's smart to blow down right after 137 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,960 you knocked off Sniffy. You think it's smarter to wait around here to get 138 00:11:50,039 --> 00:11:54,240 picked up. Oh maybe nobody's got anything on you. Nobody's gonna have either. 139 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,240 That's the reason we're blowing. Wait a minute, Let make it in 140 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:03,240 first. Okay, hop in, close the door, and we'll get gone. 141 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:09,759 That's okay with me. I don't even care where we're gone, as 142 00:12:09,799 --> 00:12:16,559 long as I'm with you. We're off. We won't speed, we won't 143 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,000 do nothing to attract attention a little while we're in the clear. With ten 144 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:26,279 grand of missus Willoughby's dough, nobody to finger me for Sniffy's killing. Sounds 145 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:31,440 swell to me. Joe mde I like being with you. Oh boy, 146 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:37,080 honey, I gotta keep my mind on driving like ginny. Huh. There's 147 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,799 a car following us where How do you know what's following us? Joe, 148 00:12:41,919 --> 00:12:45,159 take it easy. I'm gonna step on it and see if it is. 149 00:12:46,159 --> 00:12:50,200 The other car's picking up speed too. There are two guys in a Joe 150 00:12:50,279 --> 00:12:54,480 cops. I guarantee, well, they won't grab me. This car of 151 00:12:54,519 --> 00:12:56,559 mine can get away from anything on the road. You got my gun? 152 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:01,240 Yeah, sure, your jo take and shoot it out with him and they 153 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,399 get closed. Oh the gun out the window? Quick, out the window? 154 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:05,440 Are you dope? You want to get caught with it on? You 155 00:13:07,279 --> 00:13:13,399 throw it when we go around this bend. Okay, Joe, I got 156 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,080 rid of it. Let's see if we can get rid of that car. 157 00:13:16,399 --> 00:13:20,279 You're going very bad. Nahda, cut my foot on the floor. This 158 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,399 cradle will pick up the eighty five on a straight away road. Just hold 159 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,080 tight and say nothing. Gee, this is exciting. Yeah, sure, 160 00:13:28,159 --> 00:13:30,759 so I'm exciting. I don't lose that car and back of me, I 161 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:35,039 get Oh, they're getting closer. Joe, can you made me throw your 162 00:13:35,039 --> 00:13:37,840 gun away? Joe. We can't lose im, Genie, so keep quiet. 163 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,320 Let me do the talking. I'm gonna stop. You made me throw 164 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,759 your gun away, Joe? What'd you make me do it? You gotta 165 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,960 killed him when they drove us? Shut up? What do they do to 166 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,519 was? Joe? What do you? I don't know. I don't think 167 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:58,799 they gotta think you're coming? Two guys? I see him? Remember what 168 00:13:58,879 --> 00:14:03,799 I told you? Shut up? Well, you too, certainly let us 169 00:14:03,799 --> 00:14:07,120 a chase. I'm mister attorney Markham. You're Joe Crane. That's right. 170 00:14:07,159 --> 00:14:09,799 Who's the young lady with u? Crane? Oh? You ought to be 171 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:15,639 asking questions? He's final ants? Who is she? My girl? What 172 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,720 do you want with me? Da? It remains to be seen right now. 173 00:14:18,759 --> 00:14:22,519 I want you to come back to my office with me. Then I'm 174 00:14:22,559 --> 00:14:24,840 going to call on Emily Willoughby and see if she can identify you as the 175 00:14:24,879 --> 00:14:28,919 man who sold her a money making machine. That's the rap part of it, 176 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,480 Crane. There's a possibility we might be able to prove you killed a 177 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:39,039 man named Sniffy Edwards too. Edwards Edwards never heard of me. I suppose 178 00:14:39,039 --> 00:14:41,679 you never heard of a money making machine, that's right, the things these 179 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:46,279 people don't know. Markham. Yes, well, let's get going back to 180 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,639 your office. I'm not half as concerned over what they don't know as they 181 00:14:50,679 --> 00:15:03,679 will be over what we do. Yes, that's him. That's definitely the 182 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,679 man who sold me the money making machine. Dame's off her beam. I 183 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,159 never saw her before. You're a positive of missus Willoughby. Yes, of 184 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,879 course I am. Well you have him right here. You have a machine 185 00:15:13,879 --> 00:15:18,279 your men picked up at my house right here. Well, Markham, we'll 186 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,240 take care of him. Markham. Yes, Vance, suppose you take Missus 187 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,360 Willoughby into the next office and get her to sign a complaint against Crane. 188 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,360 I want to talk to him, certainly, Missus Willoughby. I'll be glad 189 00:15:28,399 --> 00:15:33,320 to sign a complaint. I'll sign anything, just to make sure. Well, 190 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,320 Vance, what do we talk about? The weather? Baseball? Take 191 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,559 a subject. Don't be cute, Crane. You're in a spot. Missus 192 00:15:41,559 --> 00:15:46,440 Willoughby's identification is all Markham needs to send you away, hur Really so she 193 00:15:46,559 --> 00:15:48,440 identified me? So what so I sold her a machine? So what? 194 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,759 So? Legitimate business transaction. There's nothing wrong with that machine except that it 195 00:15:52,799 --> 00:15:56,639 doesn't make money, as you claim. Although even if it did, that, 196 00:15:56,759 --> 00:15:58,639 of course would be illegal. That would be the government's worry, not 197 00:15:58,759 --> 00:16:03,600 the district attorneys are yours. That's partially true, but the fact remains that 198 00:16:03,679 --> 00:16:07,120 the machine doesn't work. No, no, Look, here's some of the 199 00:16:07,159 --> 00:16:11,240 paper that came with it. Just hunk here, just the size of a 200 00:16:11,279 --> 00:16:15,240 dollar bill. Put your initials on it, or anything you want on it. 201 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,039 What for, I'll show you it does work. Go ahead, write 202 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:22,679 something on the paper. Well, so matter, can't you right? I 203 00:16:22,799 --> 00:16:26,559 think I will test Ukraine. I'll take my fountain pen and draw a little 204 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:33,879 design on this paper. Okay, I take a paper, put her in 205 00:16:33,919 --> 00:16:42,279 the machine, turn the handle, and look what comes out? A brand 206 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,799 new one dollar bill. Where's the design I put on the blank paper on 207 00:16:45,919 --> 00:16:49,799 the bill? Here it is. Take a look, and that dough is 208 00:16:49,879 --> 00:16:53,960 good dough. You can take a tenny bank. I'm quite certain it is 209 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,840 really money. That is the design I put on the blank paper. The 210 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,000 guy don't sell the money. Just a machine. I'm not responsible for what 211 00:17:03,039 --> 00:17:07,680 people use it for. I ain't in competition with the government. How I 212 00:17:07,759 --> 00:17:10,799 think it would be an idea if you talk to the district attorney and saw 213 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,400 to it that the three of us get out of here. The three of 214 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:17,559 you, sure, Genie and me, and this machine which has you stopped 215 00:17:17,559 --> 00:17:37,839 so good. You haven't the slightest idea how it works. This is just 216 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,599 your attorney, Markham. The money machine murder case is an unusual one. 217 00:17:42,559 --> 00:17:47,920 Final Vans is quite certain that Snippy Edwards, an Underworld character, was killed 218 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:52,240 because he'd invented a money making machine. And we are equally certain that a 219 00:17:52,279 --> 00:17:56,000 man named Joe Crane, whom we have had in custody, is the killer. 220 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:00,400 Although we have a loss in any case against Crane, this is more 221 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,200 interested in proving murder against you. We have led him and his girl out 222 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:11,559 on bad I don't know where they are scared. Of course I wasn't scared. 223 00:18:11,759 --> 00:18:15,759 It was wonderful, the DA chasing me in his car and then advancing 224 00:18:15,839 --> 00:18:19,599 him, questioning Joe and me, Joe thinking I was his girl in that 225 00:18:19,799 --> 00:18:23,799 years. It was swell. I'm glad, sure it was swell. Frankie 226 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,960 the one. The thing is, it's going to keep me from getting that 227 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,960 money making machine from Joe. He doesn't know what I'm playing along with him 228 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,440 for sometimes I ain't sure either. You double cross anybody in a minute. 229 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,720 If there was some excitement in the Genie, you're double cross and Joe Crane 230 00:18:37,839 --> 00:18:41,119 could do it to me too, if you got a chance to you, 231 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,000 Frankie, Oh never never. She says, you have a lot on me, 232 00:18:45,079 --> 00:18:48,279 Jeannie, and I'm not sure whether I like that or not. Well, 233 00:18:48,279 --> 00:18:51,920 look, Frankie, I gotta get over to see Joe. We gotta 234 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,720 stay in town because the cops told us too. I better see him so 235 00:18:53,759 --> 00:18:56,880 I can make plans to get that machine away from Sudan Jeanie. But I 236 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:02,920 got shut up. Hi, what for what's going on? Because I said, 237 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,920 you know too much about me? So I have a little present for 238 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:11,319 you this Hey, you avoid a minute, frank what's a gun for you? 239 00:19:11,319 --> 00:19:12,759 You are going to kill me. I didn't do anything, Frankie, 240 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:17,039 anything about killing you. I said, I have a present for you. 241 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,519 This gun. Here. Take it. You're gonna need it if you keep 242 00:19:21,559 --> 00:19:36,400 trying to outsmart a guy like Joe Crane Markham. You don't have to tell 243 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,079 me that it's all very irregular and very illegal. I know it. I'm 244 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,319 rapidly becoming convinced that it was a mistake to let Crane and his girl out 245 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,319 of custody as you only allowed them to leave because I asked you to. 246 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,200 And believe me, Markam, you can pick him up on a lossenty charge 247 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,799 at any time. All that's so. But I want him free so I 248 00:19:51,799 --> 00:19:55,480 can prove murder against him, so you said yesterday, All advance, I'll 249 00:19:55,559 --> 00:19:57,519 go along with this a little while longer. By the way, how does 250 00:19:57,559 --> 00:20:02,119 that money making machine work? I think I have an idea. The design 251 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,200 you put on a blank piece of paper actually came out on the dollar bill. 252 00:20:04,279 --> 00:20:07,759 It was on it when Crane gave me the bill, and it was 253 00:20:07,799 --> 00:20:10,200 a good bill. Markham. Perhaps there was a camera in the machine. 254 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,960 It took a picture of the design and stamped it on the No, No, 255 00:20:14,039 --> 00:20:15,839 that's preposterous. It couldn't possibly be done that way. It wasn't. 256 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,119 Don't tell me that machine actually makes money from blank pieces of paper bats. 257 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,400 No, I won't tell you that either, because that isn't true. But 258 00:20:22,519 --> 00:20:26,559 Markham, talking to you just now has given me an idea. Yes, 259 00:20:26,079 --> 00:20:30,400 what details of the death of Sniffy Edwards have you released? None except that 260 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,519 we found his body. That's all anybody knows. Good now, Markham, 261 00:20:33,559 --> 00:20:37,799 if I'm right about how that machine works, I think I can promise to 262 00:20:37,839 --> 00:20:41,079 bring Joe Crane into your office again, only this time with a very solid 263 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:56,759 murder charge against him. You're sure you go for me, Jeanie, you're 264 00:20:56,839 --> 00:21:03,960 pastor, I'm tasted a perlative, I'm everything, Joe. I just don't 265 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:11,039 want to do a thing except hang around you. That proves something? Maybe, 266 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:17,319 my dear, what about Frank Lacy used to be pretty sweet out of 267 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:22,200 heaven? Sure, I used to be. I didn't give you any guarantee. 268 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,559 I'm going to be in love with you forever, Joey, But I 269 00:21:26,599 --> 00:21:40,440 hope so all I know is right now you're for me. Maybe Joey, 270 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,799 show me the money making machine. So we're there in the corner, go 271 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,519 look at it. Oh, I don't mean that I can show me how 272 00:21:47,559 --> 00:21:51,400 it works. I know that machine is nothing but a roller with two slits 273 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,200 and a phony bottom. If eat blank paper in one slit, turn the 274 00:21:55,279 --> 00:21:57,279 roller and it picks up a legit dollar bill from the bottom and slips it 275 00:21:57,319 --> 00:22:00,799 out the other side. Only how do the initials get on the bill? 276 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,000 I write you letter about it sometime. Come on Joey telling me. I 277 00:22:07,039 --> 00:22:11,279 okay, Joey, on your feet, Frank sure, Frank, Frank lazy 278 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,599 and I'm getting a little tired of playing games. Come here, Joey, 279 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,200 Hey, leave him alone, Frankie. Okay, Frank, what's with you? 280 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,839 What's going on? What do you want? Fred machine over in the 281 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:25,000 corner? One Stephy Edwards invented and I want the monogram gimmick. Jeanie here 282 00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:26,400 was supposed to get it for me, but I've been waiting too long. 283 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,880 Let's have the story, Joey. How do you do the monogram thing? 284 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:44,359 Oh? That well, you see? Frank? You? Thanks? He 285 00:22:44,519 --> 00:22:47,720 was killing me. Thanks for shooting him. That's all right, Joey. 286 00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:52,799 Pleasure was all mine. That's a funny thing, though, Frank, give 287 00:22:52,839 --> 00:22:56,359 me the gun this morning and I kill him? What it's this afternoon? 288 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,519 Yeah? That's live. Hi, thank you a little more, Ginnie if 289 00:23:00,519 --> 00:23:04,400 I was awful? Sure who you was aiming at when you shot Joey me? 290 00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:08,079 Let's you and I? What any much? Talk about you and me 291 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:14,519 in a little while. Yeah, it's Joe Crane. Who's this friend of 292 00:23:14,599 --> 00:23:18,720 Sniffy Edwards? So so I got all the Sniffy's machines and I thought maybe 293 00:23:18,759 --> 00:23:22,599 you like to buy him cheap check on a bus apiece. I got a 294 00:23:22,599 --> 00:23:25,519 ton of them. You can get a fortune from all right, you sell 295 00:23:25,599 --> 00:23:30,240 them. I'm hot, I'll leave the country. I don't I know this 296 00:23:30,319 --> 00:23:33,960 is on the level. Nobody knows Sniffy's gimmick on how their monograms going the 297 00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:38,119 blank paper to the good dough do they? Nobody except you and Sniffy and 298 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:44,039 you that's right, and me. I got the whole gimmick right under my 299 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,440 thumb. I'll tell you enough for you to meet me. You know it 300 00:23:48,599 --> 00:23:52,640 is. Where are you a joint called Mulley's in the waterfront? Walk right 301 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,160 through and into the back room. I'll be there, only don't be too 302 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,160 long, Joey, I'm hot, Like I told you. The only think 303 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:14,200 it will cool me you off is cold cache. It's you look like a 304 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,920 professional panhandler if I ever saw one. Where did you get some juggly looking 305 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,519 clothes? Bought them Markham. These overalls, this jacket, this cabin of 306 00:24:21,519 --> 00:24:25,720 these shoes cost me seven dollars. I think I got cheated. Well, 307 00:24:25,759 --> 00:24:29,240 I don't know. Now you've been doing some cheating yourself. I think cheating 308 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,640 the barber? That is? What did you shave last yesterday morning? Pretty 309 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,119 bad for what you're trying to do if you can get what you think you 310 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,440 can on, Joe Crane, what's the difference? How you look? That's 311 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:44,440 exactly who is it? That's your que Markham. Go out the back door 312 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,680 there and don't come until I call you, right blanks? What's going on? 313 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:57,039 I'm coming, I ain't Crane. Where are the machines? You don't 314 00:24:57,079 --> 00:25:00,599 think I keep in head? Do you? It's sure you'll keep them anywhere? 315 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,200 Then? What are you doing here? Look? But you know how 316 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,680 Sniffy's monogram gimmick worked. You know he let me have one of his machines 317 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,119 to pedal. What else do you know? It's you knocked him off? 318 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,599 Ah, so that's the story. Huh yeah, so long, but don't 319 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,240 take care of us. Wait a minute. Well, I'm still hot and 320 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,359 I still need though, like I said, to get a waist way and 321 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,960 cool off. And I still got those machines, ten of them. I'll 322 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,440 give you a hundred bucks for him take it or leave it, and I'll 323 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,400 take it now. You give me a thousand bucks extra for keeping my mouth 324 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:37,519 shut about you shooting Sniffy. Shooting Sniffy. You don't allow to like, 325 00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:41,519 do you? Sniffy? Was knife though. Go ahead, talk all you 326 00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:44,480 want it, you get the hundred for the machines, and you get moving 327 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:45,960 out of time. I don't think I will. I think you will be 328 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,559 doing the moving Crane right into jail. Hey, you know, bum what 329 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,119 comes with that talk? Wwire you we've met Crane. I'm fellow events you've 330 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,759 told me all I wanted to know about you. Only one person would know 331 00:25:56,759 --> 00:26:00,960 how Sniffy Edwards was killed, and that was the man who killed him. 332 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:07,799 What you know won't do any good. I'm good, all right, Markham, 333 00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:11,119 you can come in now. I heard your two fighting, but I 334 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,160 didn't want to spoil your fun vans. I'm glad you didn't. Well, 335 00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:19,319 there's your lossonist Markham. Yes, only now he's your murderer too. You 336 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,440 will have no trouble getting a conviction after we take him downtown. I'll tell 337 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,480 you the details of the traveling monogram, which was the initial step in making 338 00:26:27,559 --> 00:26:52,079 Joe Crane show his hand to begin with Markholm. As soon as Crane was 339 00:26:52,079 --> 00:26:56,240 convinced that I knew how a monogram on a blank piece of paper could be 340 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,079 transferred to a real dollar bill, he had no hesitancy about coming down to 341 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,000 the waterfront and talking to me, and in talking to your fancy gave himself 342 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,519 away. I know that, and I know we found Frank Lacey's body in 343 00:27:04,519 --> 00:27:07,240 the Crane's apartment, so we actually have him for two murders. But I 344 00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:11,359 don't understand how the device work. I'll show you. Here's the machine Crane 345 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,319 used and some of the paper that comes with it. Yes, write something 346 00:27:15,319 --> 00:27:19,000 on the paper. Ye, he's my pen. All right, I'll put 347 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:26,400 down my initials f x M. There we are very well. I take 348 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,880 the paper yes, and slip it into the machine. But before I do, 349 00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:33,240 I cover what you wrote with my thumb, so the ink gets on 350 00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:37,279 my thumb. The ink gets up. Then I turn the handle of the 351 00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:41,079 machine and outcomes a new dollar bill. I take it out of the machine, 352 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,880 and as I do, I press my thumb, still with the wet 353 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,440 ink on it, on the bill, and your initials are transferred to it. 354 00:27:47,519 --> 00:27:48,720 Oh, brother, no, it can't be that simple. I hope 355 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:53,920 what it was. I see the dollar bill with my initials on it, 356 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,880 but I'd never have known how they got there. Oh, really, I 357 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,680 would have sworn that dollar bill actually was the blank piece of paper I saw 358 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,839 you put in the machine. Well, Markham, the secret of the device 359 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,279 was in its simplicity. It certainly was. Well, we don't have to 360 00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:12,759 worry about it now, nor about Sniffy Edwards murder, nor about any of 361 00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:17,279 the people concerned with it. That's right. Let's cut this machine down to 362 00:28:17,319 --> 00:28:19,599 the river and throw it overboard. That will be the end of it, 363 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,279 the end of it, and thanks to you, the end of the money 364 00:28:23,319 --> 00:29:51,640 machine the murder case. Welcome back. Okay, First thing, I am 365 00:29:51,680 --> 00:30:00,759 pretty sure that under normal prosecutorial guidelines, who want to preserve any exhibits that 366 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:07,839 might be used as evidence at trial. Now, let's imagine the hearing, 367 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,960 mister Markham, the defense is requesting, and I think this is quite reasonable 368 00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:22,000 that you produced the money machine that you allege was part of this whole and 369 00:30:22,079 --> 00:30:26,279 the possession of which is at the core of the motive for the murder. 370 00:30:26,519 --> 00:30:33,920 Your honor, I can't because it's currently unavailable. And why would that be, 371 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,880 Because your honor, I threw it into the Hudson River. And why 372 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,160 did you do that? Because Filo Vance told me. Now, in real 373 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:47,400 life, Markham would be all in all kinds of trouble. But I kind 374 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,839 of imagine that in the Filo Vance universe, the judge would say, so, 375 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,319 I'll allow it, sure, And why did Vance what to throw this 376 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:03,440 thing in the river? I mean, it's not like it was some terrible 377 00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:07,599 secret that could destroy mankind. No, I don't know. It is the 378 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:14,319 Filo Vance universe, and I suppose someone could get a hold of it, 379 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,359 and there are so many people who are gullible enough to fall for it that 380 00:31:18,599 --> 00:31:22,200 Vance is just not taking the risk. I mean, I imagine in the 381 00:31:22,279 --> 00:31:30,079 Filo Vance universe people will fall for almost anything. And of course you have 382 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,920 to wonder once again what Markham thinks his job is, because at the end 383 00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:40,640 of the episode, Vance says, you know, we're not gonna have to 384 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,960 worry about anybody involved in this case, and we're just totally completely through with 385 00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:51,559 it, and Markham agreed, Yes, we're totally done, when in reality 386 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,680 Vance would have to testify in court and Markham is going to have to be 387 00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:02,440 worried about all of these people, many of whom are either defendants or potential 388 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:07,480 witnesses, and in prosecuting them. But on the other hand, Markham continues 389 00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:15,319 to fulfill police officer responsibilities like hot speed chases. It makes you wonder how 390 00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:23,160 the public forums go for district attorney elections. Now, mister Markham, you 391 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,640 can ask a question of your opponent. Yes, I'd like to ask you. 392 00:32:27,799 --> 00:32:34,880 Do you have any experience as a stunt driver? No? I don't 393 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,799 see how that's relevant to being district attorney. Oh you don't. And let 394 00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:44,440 me ask do you have a fast car? I just just drive a normal 395 00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:49,640 sedan. I see you are not prepared to be district attorney. Are you 396 00:32:49,799 --> 00:32:54,759 ready to hunt down criminals and bring them back alive yourself? Are you ready 397 00:32:54,799 --> 00:33:04,400 to obsessively investigate every crime, guessing horribly all the time, and then finally 398 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,519 what somebody else solves the case? Apprehending the criminal? You know, this 399 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:15,519 is not really the job of district attorney. I mean, we just prosecute 400 00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:17,519 the cases. What's they're arrested? Oh no, no, no, Once 401 00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:22,960 they're arrested, we're just done. We're done. I never have to think 402 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:27,720 about these people. What's they're arrested? That's I don't know actually whose job 403 00:33:27,759 --> 00:33:30,480 that is, but it's not mine. At the same time, I have 404 00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:37,079 to say, of the woman who was the victim of the scam, how 405 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:43,599 bad do you have to be handling life? To be chewed out by Markham 406 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:49,759 for being very foolish. Listen our comments and feedback. Now and we start 407 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:55,960 with YouTube and we have a comment from Candice. Candice Roots, thank you 408 00:33:57,039 --> 00:34:00,599 so much for sharing this with us to enjoy. 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We'll be back next 433 00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:12,880 Thursday with another episode a follow vance, but join us back here tomorrow for 434 00:36:13,199 --> 00:36:17,519 the conclusion of the Bennett Matter, where the building was destroyed by fire. 435 00:36:19,159 --> 00:36:22,280 I worked with arson experts from my own organization and with the police here to 436 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:27,360 determine the cause of the fire. Go on please. At the scene of 437 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,239 the fire, our expert William Underwood located certain items which we recognized as part 438 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:36,599 of the parafernalia generally used by professional arsonists. Will you please steep what those 439 00:36:36,639 --> 00:36:42,840 items were? A scrap of celluloid and a paraffin wick, anything else samples 440 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,679 of the ashes which were later analyzed and proved to be celluloid ashes. I 441 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,679 wish to remind the ladies and gentlemen of the jury that the public fire adjusted, 442 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,119 the gentleman from the Skyline Laboratories and the two gentlemen from the Fire Inspection 443 00:36:57,159 --> 00:37:01,360 Department have previously testified as to the identity and uses of these items. Will 444 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:06,800 you continue, mister Dollar, Well, these particular items suggested that the fire 445 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:13,000 was of an incendiary origin. The next problem was to establish the exact method 446 00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:15,239 used in starting the fire. Were you able to determine that method? Yes? 447 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,159 In order to refresh the minds of the jury, would you mind describing 448 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,199 what was established? A heavy woolen wick. This one, mister Dollar, 449 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:29,360 add one or one like it? Exhibit C. Please continue. This wick 450 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,280 had been soaked in paraffin and then stuffed into a paper sack that was filled 451 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:38,199 with celluloid. It's a simple method. The wick is lit and takes anywhere 452 00:37:38,199 --> 00:37:42,719 from three to ten minutes to burn down to the celluloid. Now, once 453 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,199 that happens, the celluloid flares up and fires anything combustible in the vicinity. 454 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,360 And that is the method you determine caused the fire on the Bennett Building. 455 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,119 Yes, I hope you'll be with us then. In the meantime, do 456 00:37:54,239 --> 00:38:00,079 send your comments to Box thirteen at Great Detectives dot net, follow us on 457 00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:06,800 Twitter at Radio Detectives, and check us out on Instagram, Instagram, dot 458 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:12,000 com, slash Great Detectives from Boise, Idaho. This is your host, 459 00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:14,119 Adam graham Son and off