WEBVTT 1 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:32.200 Hey, Everybody's Friday, January twenty sixth, twenty twenty four. Welcome to 2 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:38.359 the Giant BombCast Revengeance. I'm your host jan Oshoa, and today we're doing 3 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:43.079 another little review cast. We're gonna have an extended conversation about a video game, 4 00:00:43.079 --> 00:00:46.920 and just a singular video game. In that video game this week is 5 00:00:47.240 --> 00:00:52.240 like a dragon infinite wealth spoilers. Maybe who knows, I don't know. 6 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:57.079 Maybe we'll say something I don't know and forget the rest of the GB crew. 7 00:00:57.159 --> 00:01:02.359 I needed to assemble my own crime, my own crime family, an 8 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:07.599 elite row of people with unique gimmicks that will endear our hearts that you will 9 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:12.879 want to woo and have a drink with, perhaps maybe pass a cardboard cutout 10 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:19.640 in a panic at night. Perhaps joining me today on BombCast Revengeance. Imron 11 00:01:19.719 --> 00:01:23.680 Khan, Helloha, Oh god, my friendship with you just went up, 12 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:29.680 just skyrocking that like a little shaka to me, just like, oh God, 13 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:33.920 I'm filled with friendship now being talking about being filled with friendship. Jesse 14 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:37.040 Vitelli in the building, Hey, what's going on? I'm gonna throw up 15 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:44.480 two two shakas? Oh my god, one on one? Are you want 16 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:47.319 to hear ship. I could hate all this. I know exactly what you 17 00:01:47.400 --> 00:01:52.519 do. Hear all right, last, but certainly not least friend of the 18 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:56.480 pod, friend of the website. And I'm sorry that you had to show 19 00:01:56.560 --> 00:02:00.840 your parents' odd pictures of all of my compatriots Lex Buddy in the building. 20 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:07.239 Yeah that, yeah, yeah, they judge me. They judge me quite 21 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:08.960 harshly on that one. I was gonna say, I have a heart out 22 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:13.879 because I have like an orphanage album after this. Oh, I mean it's 23 00:02:13.919 --> 00:02:17.360 all right, the orphans can wait. I hope they're not shoot orphans or 24 00:02:17.400 --> 00:02:22.080 real orphans, I should say. But we've been playing a lot of like 25 00:02:22.240 --> 00:02:25.680 a Dragon infinite Wealth. I'm gonna be honest here, folks. I haven't 26 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:30.400 finished it because I've spent too much time playing uh, because I've spent too 27 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:36.639 much time on the island. And then I found poker and it's been real 28 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:38.080 bad for me. I don't know if you all know this, but I 29 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:44.919 am going through my poker phase real bad right now, and it's well, 30 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:47.479 actually, Jane, this is an intervention about your poker phase. So we're 31 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:53.039 here because we love you and we want we want you to stop playing virtual 32 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:57.599 Poker Jann I sent you that link to the Vogue like Poker game the other 33 00:02:57.680 --> 00:03:00.719 day and I was like, yeah, that is the test you failed. 34 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:07.039 Yeah I failed that test because then I immediately downloaded the demo. But I'm 35 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:12.360 assuming and I believe all of you all have finished Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth. 36 00:03:12.639 --> 00:03:15.800 Yes, we'll just go around the room, like you know, immediate 37 00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:19.639 thoughts. Jesse will start with you. What do you think you hate this 38 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:24.080 game? Is it the worst game you've ever played? So I feel like 39 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:30.719 I'm on the lower end of the pole here. I like the moment to 40 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:32.560 moment of that game a lot. I like all the sides, most of 41 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:36.639 the side stuff. I think that story just doesn't come together for me in 42 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:39.759 the end, and it kind of left me a little disappointed. I've talked 43 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:42.680 to a few other folks about it, and like, I think the more 44 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:45.680 I talk about it, the more I'm just kind of like, didn't quite 45 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:49.639 come together for me. But that being said, still had a blast playing 46 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:52.479 through this game. I think there's a lot of great stuff here. Okay, 47 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:54.159 Okay, lex, I believe you're on the other side of the fence 48 00:03:54.199 --> 00:03:58.319 from Jesse here. I believe you gave it a ten out of ten on 49 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:02.840 Shack News. Yeah, which everyone knows means perfect, means without flaw definitely. 50 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:10.520 Yeah, Yeah, that's yeah, it's it's literally nothing could ever be 51 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:16.160 better than it. All videos from now on start below this. But yeah, 52 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:20.879 I really loved it. And I think something that will come up a 53 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:25.480 lot as I talk about my thoughts on it is it's quite. It's been 54 00:04:25.519 --> 00:04:30.639 quite a personal game for me, and I played through the entire series of 55 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:35.839 the Like A Dragon Stuff pretty much all mainline games, Judgment Each and Bit 56 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:43.720 of Dead Sols all in the last fourteen months, and I played Zero Went 57 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:47.759 seven years prior, but I hadn't gone back to the previous games, so 58 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:51.839 it's been like a long journey for me. And then story elements combined with 59 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:55.480 things that have been like going on on my own personal life, led to 60 00:04:56.319 --> 00:05:00.040 the story hitting really really hard for me. And I think that what they 61 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:05.319 do with Qiu and Itchy Van and the way that those two characters play off 62 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:10.920 each other really fucked me up. And I really love what they what they 63 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:15.639 do with that, and and yeah, I think it's fan fu fantastic, 64 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:26.399 lovely, lovely, lovely. Imron your your immediate thoughts I really love the 65 00:05:26.439 --> 00:05:30.000 game. I gave it a nine on my on my Patreon review, and 66 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:34.480 I was like, I I kind of the opposite of Jesse here where holistically 67 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:39.160 like the moment the moment gameplay was like fine and compelling and like it's a 68 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:43.160 it's a like a drag and slashiakas a game, but the the whole experience 69 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:47.560 for me, including where that story went and where it meandered and where it 70 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:53.040 slowed down to a point where I didn't really know what was going. I 71 00:05:53.079 --> 00:05:56.720 think that all worked for me in a way that like like let's you said, 72 00:05:56.839 --> 00:05:59.759 the game has personal residents depending on where you are in your life and 73 00:05:59.759 --> 00:06:04.240 form me like I was I recently lost my job, such as the way 74 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:09.120 Ichibon does early on in that game, and like that thing where he wakes 75 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:14.720 up and just looks at his phone immediately, just like that as someone who 76 00:06:14.759 --> 00:06:17.399 was sitting on my couch in a shirt I had been wearing for a week 77 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:21.920 in my underwear and being like, yeah, no, that's that's what unemployment 78 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:26.240 is. Like like that, there are a lot of little moments in this 79 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:30.759 game where I went, Okay, this is they thought about what as fantastical 80 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:33.920 and as stupid as this game can be, they thought about what a human 81 00:06:33.959 --> 00:06:40.120 being would would interact with this and how they would feel about this in a 82 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:44.439 way that I don't feel like previous a game because the games did as successfully. 83 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:49.120 So I'm not as super familiar with the Yakuza series I've I've dabbled in, 84 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:53.720 I want to say, most of them, but never completed a lot 85 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:58.079 of them because of how gargantuan that task actually is. Except like a Dragon, 86 00:06:58.120 --> 00:07:01.000 the original one. I absolutely love that one. How does that iman 87 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:04.600 you touched on that ranking it amongst all of them? But how does this 88 00:07:05.079 --> 00:07:10.800 land for all y'all in the greater pantheon of the Yakuza verse? I hate 89 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:16.360 saying verse. By the way, for me, I finished it thinking to 90 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:20.480 go back to what LEXI was saying about, like top does not necessarily mean 91 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:27.360 perfect. I think YAKXA zero has long been my favorite Yakasa game since I 92 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:30.480 played it, There's never been any question about that. But I finished this 93 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:32.000 game going, you know, I think this is my favorite Yakasa game. 94 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:36.480 It's not better than zero in every single way, but it's better enough that 95 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:43.759 I think maybe maybe with some distance that idea changes, But for right now, 96 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:46.600 I think that is my favorite game in the series. Okay. Yeah, 97 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:50.120 and I actually did a ranking of Yakuza games this week because I was 98 00:07:50.120 --> 00:07:56.639 curious how my feelings had borne out on them. At the top, we 99 00:07:56.680 --> 00:08:01.959 have Neo Perfect video Game and that Infinite Way Health Lost Judgment, and Yakuza 100 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:05.759 Zero. Then we have Absolute Bangers, which is like a dragon, the 101 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:11.120 Kitle Files, Yakuza Kowami Judgment and The Man Who Raised his Name Pretty good 102 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:16.920 Time, Yakuza six, Clammy two and Ishan Flat with some good moments, 103 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:24.000 four or five Dead Souls and Fuck Them Kids Yakuza three. Wow, you 104 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:28.120 actually have a whole ranking system. That's okay, you came prepared. Yeah, 105 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:33.799 I was willing to be brave enough to say fuck them kids and put 106 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:39.080 it into like written word. I'm really going to interfere with the orphanage you 107 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:45.919 have to help out. Yeah, you say three is not a game I'd 108 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:50.799 ever recommend people play, but like, having played that game, there's payoff 109 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:56.399 in a Yeah. Yeah, there's so much actual good in eight and uh 110 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:58.519 now with no name, Like, having played that game, you actually get 111 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:03.759 like a big emotional bomb going off. Three is an important game. I 112 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:07.200 don't know it's definitely not the best suck but important. It has aged really 113 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:11.039 poorly. It's worse than some of those PS two games in a lot of 114 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:16.080 ways, but as like a bit of storytelling, I think it's super important. 115 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:20.120 Something that's come up a lot with like the few criticisms I have seen 116 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:22.759 to this game, and I was like talking out with someone, was that 117 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:28.919 like people felt that Ichiban hasn't gotten as much character development as he did in 118 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:33.960 the previous game. And I think that that when you compare it to the 119 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:41.000 other Yakuza games, is actually pretty common to the whole entries, where Kiru 120 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:43.440 as a guy doesn't really change from beginning to end, like things happened to 121 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:48.919 him, but he's still basically the same character, and he still has basically 122 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:52.399 the same motivations and feelings towards the world. And I think that this game 123 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:58.519 is really interesting because it uses Itchiban as like that character that was really well 124 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:03.840 developed in seven, and it uses him to round out the story to kill 125 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:07.639 you in a way that they couldn't really do if it was just killing you. 126 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:15.559 And something that I think is really important about this game is like qu 127 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:20.000 is obviously sick, and here they have shown in the marketing and Ichivan the 128 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:26.440 kindness that he's shown others throughout the years through his party members is now being 129 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:31.240 paid forward through his party members with the people that are hanging out with kre 130 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:37.840 you and kill you with someone who isn't good at accepting help, and he 131 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:43.440 is only able to start to accept help because of the people around him. 132 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:46.960 And I think that the way that the game wraps that up in the end, 133 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:52.440 I don't want to spoil anything, but the choice of who kill you 134 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:56.240 fights in the like who fights who in the final boss fights and is really 135 00:10:56.279 --> 00:11:00.639 interesting when you look at the series on a whole, because it is very 136 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:07.399 much so k you like breaking a cycle and basically preventing like the Yakuza games 137 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:13.399 from happening again for Ichiban, and I think it's really really fucking impactful, 138 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:20.879 and it is really quite like it's beautiful in a way for even the measure 139 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:26.799 narrative around these games of ORGG having a new studio heads and having new leadership 140 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:31.000 and take and changing the series name and just saying like no, this is 141 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:35.039 now like like a dragon, this is into a Yakuza story, this is 142 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:39.720 someone else. Yeah. I was in a when they revealed this game. 143 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:43.799 I was in Tokyo at the actual event, and I was so disappointed when 144 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:48.519 they showed Carrio. I literally I went to the RG head like the next 145 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:50.120 day is like, what are you doing? Why are we bringing carry you 146 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:56.480 back again? And like I realized that what they said the answer was the 147 00:11:56.480 --> 00:12:01.799 pr Currier story is not done. But like I I realized now they had 148 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:05.919 more to say and they had to like yeah, we as the audience gave 149 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:09.440 Kiu closure. We agreed like, oh the stix was a good ending. 150 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:11.960 It was weird. He came back in seven, but he needed to pass 151 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:13.720 towards to Achibon. And then it comes back at eight and it's like what 152 00:12:15.360 --> 00:12:18.240 why the story was done? Why are you just scared? But it no, 153 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:24.039 it's about Kiru accepting that closure too. About Kiru. Like like when 154 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:28.840 LEXI was saying, Kirio and Ichibon play well off each other, I think 155 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:33.519 like Kiru needed a heart in that story and Ichibon needed a brain, and 156 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:37.399 they managed to work together and like form one fully functioning adult. And I 157 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:43.799 think like Yakaza eight takes that idea and it actually gives it a lot of 158 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:48.200 gravitas and a lot of uh strong Once again, I'm way over using the 159 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:52.840 word resonance, but a lot of residents for people who have like suffered tragedies 160 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:56.799 in their life, and like Truck, are trying to convince someone there's more 161 00:12:56.840 --> 00:13:01.240 to life than just the things you do. It's person you are as well. 162 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:07.679 Jesse, how'd you feel about Curio's haircut, Kurriu's haircut? Look, 163 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:11.240 we all go through like a midlife crisis and we gotta change it up a 164 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:15.840 little bit. Curious haircut is not great. I'm gonna be real with y'all. 165 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:18.840 I don't love it, but uh I get it. Look, we 166 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:22.559 all got a choice from really quick because like, yeah, he had black 167 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:26.320 black hair in Infinite Wealth, which was like or in Man who Raised his 168 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:30.080 Name, which was only a couple of years earlier, and he's just as 169 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:33.759 gray as a fox in this one. Yeah. Also, he just not 170 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:37.840 flicking his hair back, Like that's the only change he's really making. He's 171 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:39.799 just he's starting in the morning, like, nah, fuck it, I'm 172 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:45.600 not gonna bother anymore. My my favorite moments in this game are honestly when 173 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:48.919 they're like is that Curu? And then he like takes his glasses off and 174 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:52.039 they're like it's cure you and I'm like yeah, I'm like, damn, 175 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:54.559 we're just really doing the like oh, the glasses. That's why we couldn't 176 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:58.519 tell I had nothing else to do with anything. Now that the glasses are 177 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:01.480 off, I know it's you, Kiri. I mean, with no name, 178 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:05.799 he was still like he still had glasses on. Everyone's like, yeah, 179 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:07.360 there's only one guy who fights like that. That's just carry you. 180 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:11.720 Yeah. I just love that bit. It's so funny. I really do 181 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:15.080 wonder like they never say this, and maybe it's to their credit they don't 182 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:18.360 say it, but I kind of interpret it as like Kiriu does a shit 183 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:22.480 job hiding his identity because he doesn't want to hide it. He wants people 184 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:28.919 to know. He's just like himboing accidentally, like I don't know who's Kiriyu, 185 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:33.960 I'm Joryu whatever. Yeah, I'm the bare minimum to get by, 186 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:39.720 Like sure were you? It's like, oh all right. It did start 187 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:41.960 to grow on me, and then I thought about cutting my hair and just 188 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:43.120 dying my hair silver again. But then I think I just need to get 189 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:48.240 a little bit more ripped for me personally. A big part of the like 190 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:52.399 a Dragon games and Yaku's Games Arty is the supporting cast, Jesse, how'd 191 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:56.240 you feel about the supporting cast this time around, including Kiriu. I guess 192 00:14:56.440 --> 00:15:00.200 I think they're all like pretty fantastic, and I think a lot of that 193 00:15:00.200 --> 00:15:01.720 comes through in the drink links. I would say, like if I had 194 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:05.440 like one piece of advice for anyone playing this game, is like, absolutely 195 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:07.759 make sure you're doing the drink links, because I think that they help round 196 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:11.799 out a lot of those moments for that cast. There's some stuff I wish 197 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:16.519 kind of was in the Yeah, and that's absolutely true. You get some 198 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:20.600 really good skills from that. There. There are like some drink links I 199 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:22.679 kind of wish were in the main story a little bit more, Like I 200 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:26.320 think Tony Zawa's was like something really important that happens early on that like I 201 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:28.919 wish I would have seen more of. But I think the drinkling handles it 202 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:33.080 well. But I think that cast is really good, and I think they're 203 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:35.200 doled out at a good pace. Like I felt like I was always kind 204 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:39.279 of getting a new party member at the right time, and then they would 205 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:41.799 come in and like have something to say and like something to bring to the 206 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:46.480 table at that specific moment. But like even the new members like tony's Awa 207 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:52.960 and Chuetose are like, I think, fantastic additions to this This cast of 208 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:58.399 characters like Chuetose is absolutely like a standout favorite of mine. Yeah, and 209 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:03.080 Ron, how did you feel about the crew this time around? I really 210 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:06.679 like them. I wish uh Song he had just a bit more to do 211 00:16:06.799 --> 00:16:10.919 in that game because she is just sort of like she is in like a 212 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:17.519 not ephemeral but kind of a character that is there to move everything else along, 213 00:16:17.879 --> 00:16:21.559 and she has to sit together way more than everyone else. That's the 214 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:23.639 thing. She had her shit together, so she's not part of like the 215 00:16:25.519 --> 00:16:29.240 drunken mess that everyone else is. But I do think what I loved about 216 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:33.759 the cast is that everyone in their own way kind of exemplies the main theme 217 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:40.240 of can we redeem ourselves from a thing we've done before? And for like 218 00:16:40.320 --> 00:16:44.799 Tomazole, it's very obvious because he's basically fallen in with a bad element. 219 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:48.600 He's you know, tried to rob Ichevon like there was he was not a 220 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:52.039 good person until he Jiman kind of rubbed off on him. But like the 221 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:56.200 overall thing with that game is the Yakaza. We're not good people before, 222 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:59.200 but now they're back in society. How do we reintegrate them? Can we 223 00:16:59.240 --> 00:17:02.960 trust them to be good? And everyone in the cast thinks on that level. 224 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:06.759 They think like, okay, I did this, but can I be 225 00:17:06.880 --> 00:17:11.200 good? Can people trust me? Can society trust me? Or can I, 226 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:14.799 you know, redeem myself from the circumstances of my birth and the way 227 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:18.119 I was like brought up. And this even extends to Cire you like it's 228 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:22.519 not I don't think a spoiler because it was in the marketing materials that he 229 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:29.640 has cancer and he thinks that sickness is, in a more abstract way of 230 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:32.880 thinking, an irredeemable thing that he's like, Okay, I've got this. 231 00:17:33.279 --> 00:17:37.599 Time is up. And I love that the cast just kind of has this 232 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:41.119 running thought process in the back of their head through this entire main story of 233 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:44.960 where do I fit in in a society that has people like Itchibon in it? 234 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:48.240 And I think that's why itchi Bound's like such an important character to have 235 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:52.799 in this because you see in the Man who raised his name like it's a 236 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:59.160 very isolating game here you feels alone and you can clearly tell that a lot 237 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:03.480 of that game is about regrets for the past and how things played out. 238 00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:07.799 And then this game he's with someone with Itchuban, who is just this epitime 239 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:10.240 of like, no, you can like make another goal of it, like 240 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:15.079 we can start from the beginning. Anyone has another chance, and that starts 241 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:18.680 to rob off on kre You, and for the first time in the series, 242 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:22.440 you start to see kre You like think about redemption rather than just punishing 243 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:30.119 himself because as a character that's been Kiru's character trait for like seven games now 244 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:34.039 is like he'll do what's right, but it usually involves self flagellation, like 245 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:40.799 it usually involves him excising himself, becoming a fucking taxi driver, leaving the 246 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:48.480 Yakuza, all those different things. And I think that Itchiban's like Itchiban's sense 247 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:55.319 of positivity gives cure You something that he is he hasn't quite had in the 248 00:18:55.359 --> 00:18:59.240 other games, which is like a hope for things being better in the future. 249 00:18:59.839 --> 00:19:03.400 I really think it's like it's quite well handled those two characters and how 250 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:07.720 they play off each other, even if they aren't interacting all the time. 251 00:19:08.319 --> 00:19:12.200 We talked a bunch about the story and everything, but one of the biggest 252 00:19:12.279 --> 00:19:18.680 improvements for me personally is how they've ever so slightly fudged and adjusted the combat 253 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:22.519 in this game. Specifically, I think it's very impressive to adapt carry you 254 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:26.799 from a brawler and really adapt him really well with the style changes in the 255 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:32.880 turn based combat lex Did you are you a fan of turn based combat? 256 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:36.400 Did this turn you off at all? Or were you into it? So? 257 00:19:36.559 --> 00:19:41.400 Like, I do love a bunch of turn based games, but right 258 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:45.240 after this, I was like, ah, fuck it a persona three codes 259 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:48.400 didn't come through. I'm going to just try out Soul Hackers too. And 260 00:19:48.440 --> 00:19:51.799 you know, when you go because I had had to install my PS fight 261 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:53.640 for Ages and I was like, you know when you go from like watching 262 00:19:55.000 --> 00:19:57.359 an Indiana Jones movie and Harrison Fother is there and you're like, man, 263 00:19:57.440 --> 00:20:00.920 this guy's got it. This guy, this guy is the real deal. 264 00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:06.759 And then you go and you watch like a really middling rock movie like Skyscraper, 265 00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:11.119 and you're like, oh, oh, this doesn't have this doesn't have 266 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:14.480 it, This isn't it. That's the feeling I got, like, there's 267 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:19.240 a real excuse me, Skyscraper is a cinematic masterpiece. Wasn't funded. It's 268 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:27.279 all right? Sorry, but like it the game just has it in a 269 00:20:27.279 --> 00:20:32.480 way that really fucking works. I think I've thought a lot about the small 270 00:20:32.599 --> 00:20:34.480 changes that they made, because I watch a bunch of the speed runs for 271 00:20:34.599 --> 00:20:40.160 seven, and something that they were always super annoyed with was like the combat 272 00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:45.440 basically was do tenacious fists constantly and you'll get through most encounters. And I 273 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:49.160 think that they do a really good job at bridging the gap between or PG 274 00:20:49.279 --> 00:20:52.640 and Bralo in this not just in that key you can break out into his 275 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:57.839 brawler stuff later in the game, in that the combo attacks and the way 276 00:20:57.839 --> 00:21:03.799 that you can follow up really quickly. It adds this pace and the snappiness 277 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:07.119 to proceedings that like, straight up, I was like, how much trouble 278 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:11.319 would I get in if in my review I said DRAWLPG, Because that would 279 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:17.440 be stupid. I decided not to. But I really like the snappiness of 280 00:21:17.440 --> 00:21:21.200 the combat, and the great thing about that is that it also ties back 281 00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:26.799 into cure you being not the guy he once was, and like him meeting 282 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:32.400 other people around him for the first time and to actually help him in these 283 00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:37.799 fights. And I think that works really well narratively having this be and RPG. 284 00:21:37.079 --> 00:21:41.559 Jesse, you're a big Final Fantasy fourteen Freak. How do you feel 285 00:21:41.559 --> 00:21:45.200 me? I feel about these turns? I look like I like turn based 286 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:49.680 combat just as much as anyone else. Something that really fascinates me about the 287 00:21:49.759 --> 00:21:52.480 series is that when you play a lot of turn based RPGs, you're usually 288 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:56.599 on like a set map or you're just like standing in place right Like there's 289 00:21:56.599 --> 00:21:59.279 some games mix it up, but it's really fascinating that. And like A 290 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:02.720 Dragon had this two where it's like you just kind of get into a fight 291 00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:06.200 anywhere, and then you kind of like every single you have to think about 292 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:08.160 every piece of the environment when you're getting into a fight, and so there 293 00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:11.119 were so many times where I was like, Okay, I could do this 294 00:22:11.160 --> 00:22:14.200 combo attack, but then what if that combo attack hits them into the street 295 00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:15.920 and a car coming by hits them and then knocks them. And so it's 296 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:18.880 like every time you get into like a random fight in that game, sometimes 297 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:21.839 you just kind of like breeze through it. But it was really fun to 298 00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:23.279 be like, okay, well, like I can knock them over here against 299 00:22:23.319 --> 00:22:26.359 this wall, and then I could pick up this planter, and it's like 300 00:22:26.519 --> 00:22:29.680 you always felt like a slight change every time you did like a random encounter 301 00:22:29.720 --> 00:22:33.000 that was really nice. And then especially some of the later fights like boss 302 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:37.319 fights and stuff like start using the environment in really interesting ways, and that 303 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:40.960 was like, that was fun to mess around with. But as far as 304 00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:42.880 like the little changes go, I think they nailed it. Like being able 305 00:22:42.920 --> 00:22:48.400 to just move freely within a set space is like the biggest thing they could 306 00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:51.200 have done, because that was like such a problem in the previous game, 307 00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:53.839 and it was super nice to try and be like, Okay, well, 308 00:22:53.880 --> 00:22:57.160 I have a line attack and I'm just kind of waiting for this one enemy 309 00:22:57.279 --> 00:23:00.160 to like move two feet to the left left, and then I could get 310 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:03.839 three of them and you kind of just wait for that moment. It feels 311 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:06.440 good. It rewards being patient, just like a little bit, but not 312 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:10.920 too much, And I like that would it be would it be sacrilegious? 313 00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:14.559 I'm going to get in trouble for this. I think this game does like 314 00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:21.240 the hybrid turn based real time stuff better than Final Fantasy seven remake. I 315 00:23:21.319 --> 00:23:26.519 think you're incorrect, but I think I think seven take. Yeah. The 316 00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:30.519 thing I've always found with Best seven we make is like those bosses are super 317 00:23:30.519 --> 00:23:34.240 spongy, and then eventually you're just playing like a spongy hack and slash. 318 00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:40.079 I would argue that Wealth is also super spongy, especially towards the end, 319 00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:42.720 Like it doesn't have the same problems seven did where everyone was very spongy at 320 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:47.240 the end, but like there are a lot of bosses that if you had 321 00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:49.839 not kept up on the attack power on your weapons, which you don't always 322 00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:53.440 do, considering you have like nine people, tend people to like keep track 323 00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:57.799 of like you were just going to be in for a long tedious grind at 324 00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:02.680 uh, grind is not the right word. Long ted is chipping away in 325 00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:07.400 a boss that said, like most things in this bosism are better than seven's. 326 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:11.440 They are. I think they've really cracked how this ballsism would work. 327 00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:15.759 The problem is these are three D models working on a physics engine, so 328 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:22.079 sometimes stuff just doesn't work out and you feel incredibly robbed of strategy because like 329 00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:26.359 there's like a combo attack you can do with your partners, but it works 330 00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:30.359 that like what sometimes the first person will sleep the legs and the other person 331 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:34.640 will like go for an air attack. Sometimes the legs sleep doesn't work and 332 00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:40.240 the air attack just goes over their head, or like sometimes the enemy will 333 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:44.920 move with the very last frame that you're hitting the A button and you're well 334 00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:49.079 planned bounce them between these characters, thing doesn't work, or for some reason, 335 00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:53.880 some weapons or some job glasses don't actually go where the arrow says they 336 00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:57.079 will go. They will just go like to the left for some reason. 337 00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:02.920 And again like a I plan to knock down a bunch of very reasons like 338 00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:06.359 a bully pin, like bully pins, and I only hit like one. 339 00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:10.720 It's that kind of thing that I think like they need to work on stuff 340 00:25:10.759 --> 00:25:14.119 like that if they really nail this, because I do feel like they are 341 00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:18.359 robbing the strategy of this and making it so it's more about fast menuing than 342 00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:26.000 it is about taking a look at the whole board at once. I had 343 00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:29.599 a bunch of trouble with that actually when I was playing or whenever i'd switch 344 00:25:29.640 --> 00:25:32.680 over to carry you, and I could never get the heat actions to properly 345 00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:37.559 trigger consecutively. Like I'd have a dude up against a poll I'm like, 346 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:40.160 all right, I did it one time where I crushed your nuts on it, 347 00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:44.359 and then have another dude similar position, and it could just not get 348 00:25:44.359 --> 00:25:47.680 it to work. But overall, I really liked it. I'm a big 349 00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:52.240 fan of arrows pointing to a location of where they may be and where they 350 00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:57.960 might be, ars pointing down, airs pointing to the left. I think 351 00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:02.160 where it's I don't want to say it started falling apart from me, and 352 00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:07.000 maybe this gets as addressed later in the game. But having to thumb through 353 00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:11.839 all of my specific skills to figure out who would be weak to what, 354 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:18.960 I just wish like that process was streamlined, ever so slightly like that in 355 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:22.680 Persona, where it's like, oh, you know, yeah, just switch 356 00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:25.680 me straight to the thing that it's weak too. Yeah, yeah, I 357 00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:29.519 would have enjoyed that. But something I've uh, I've spent a shamedly too 358 00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:33.640 much time and I very talked about it is a how do y'all feel that 359 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:37.559 they put animal crossing in the game? And do you like the animal crossing? 360 00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:42.440 Just as the first person to upload a one completed island and during the 361 00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:45.759 review process, and it felt real good. I know someone else who was 362 00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:49.279 guiding that and they were taken off it to go play Power World and they 363 00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:55.640 will I fuck. Like three days into having code, I had like a 364 00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:59.559 five star island and I was like, I was I uploaded it and I 365 00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:03.039 was just fresh and I was like, somebody, please, somebody else upload 366 00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:06.240 an island. I need to see what this multiplayer stuff does. Yeah, 367 00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:07.680 I think I went to your island, Jesse. During it, I was 368 00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:11.440 like, Wow, this is just the way beyond anything I have. And 369 00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:15.880 I had already finished the Dundug Island story by that point. That's like the 370 00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:18.079 one thing I haven't gotten super. I have gone pretty far into it, 371 00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:22.039 but I haven't gone to like going to other people's island. How does that 372 00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:25.839 work? I actually have not done it yet. I think I Ron has 373 00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:27.079 though. Right. It's basically like you see a list of people who have 374 00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:32.319 islands upload, you go to that you can Sujimon battle some people there, 375 00:27:32.480 --> 00:27:34.960 or just like you get you get like a checklist of things to do, 376 00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:40.039 and you get points for doing the checklist, so they like you're gonna change 377 00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:44.799 those points for just items on the island. It's nothing super involved, but 378 00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:47.039 it's like a neat little thing of like, oh, I guess they like 379 00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:52.039 they hit this little thing in here to for one last thing to do in 380 00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:55.039 this minigame, Like there's a load of little things where you're like, oh, 381 00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:56.839 this is just a little thing, and like the game just keeps on 382 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:02.559 having a load of little things, like the the mechanics in the Sujimon battles. 383 00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:03.680 You're like, Oh, this isn't going to be that deep, and 384 00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:07.519 then you're like, oh, I'm evolving Sujiman and like I'm caring about like 385 00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:11.839 all of this and like his tactics to it. There's a gotcha system. 386 00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:17.920 Yeah. I did a lot of polls because I wanted to see if Kenny 387 00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:22.000 Omego was in there, but so like, I haven't seen him. So 388 00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:26.160 I don't know anyone who has completed Sujimon Darsia yet, but I almost have 389 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:30.799 one. I almost, and I haven't seen them. The really high end 390 00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:33.359 ones of the DLC ones, and those just fucking blake it totally, like 391 00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:38.519 totally break the system. All of the DLC characters that they give you have 392 00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:42.799 like two hundred movement speeds, so it's just always your fucking turn. Yeah. 393 00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:48.400 Can you do PvP with Sujimon like against other players? No? No, 394 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:52.799 No, believe you can fight someone's uploaded team. So I fought Jesse's 395 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:55.799 team and they've destroyed me because I was not that far in Sujiman yet. 396 00:28:56.599 --> 00:29:00.720 Ringing Champ on the Island and the Sujiman Jesus Christ, just do I like 397 00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:03.759 what I like? I have to note this because I did not realize it 398 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:07.359 until the credits. Muku and Gotchapin are real mass fields. Yes, yeah, 399 00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:12.400 Like I have no idea because they're like, why are they crediting Muku 400 00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:17.799 and Gotchapin And I looked it up and they're like they were in uh Thalas 401 00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:21.839 the tank engine. They were in like Ultra Man. They are. They 402 00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:25.680 have been in a lot of things. They're like nnderoids of them. For 403 00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:29.440 folks that don't know Jesse, you, I don't want to say we coursed 404 00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:33.960 you to dress up into an Elmo costume during the Giant Bombaiton. Part of 405 00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:37.960 that was volunteering, but every time I saw Muku, I would just see 406 00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:44.079 you in them, just in the back, drinking, just supporting the crew, 407 00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:51.200 just powering us through a lot of it. Honestly, Muku reminds me 408 00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:52.720 a lot of Elmo, so I get it. I feel you on that. 409 00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:56.640 God, It's just like every time i'd see his face, he would 410 00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:00.599 give me a quick jump scare, but I'd be calmed down at the same 411 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:06.000 time because he shares my same existential dread. I've seen a couple folks and 412 00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:07.000 I've talked to a couple of folks that have, I don't want to say 413 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:11.079 complained, but been a bit down on the side content. In terms of 414 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:15.119 like the side stories, I haven't explored too much other than anything coffee related, 415 00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:18.319 because, as y'all know, I have a problem. I have multiple 416 00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:22.359 problems, like back to the Grind, back to the Grind, Grind, 417 00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:27.920 and uh, I need to stop documenting all my my, my problems on 418 00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:33.160 this website. But how have y'all felt about all of the side story stuff 419 00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:37.920 in some of the side games, Like I wasn't. I didn't think I'd 420 00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.039 get much into the dating as much as I did. But I just really 421 00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:45.000 enjoyed the texting mechanic that you started to do with like their fake Tinder, 422 00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:48.519 because it just felt fun to pretend like I was texting on a t nine. 423 00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:53.519 I stopped comes up across the screen is so funny. I end have 424 00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:57.440 stopped stopping doing that, because I like, I did everything right up until 425 00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:03.039 like the the choose the emoji thing, and I like I chose the wrong 426 00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:07.319 one and it like I ruined the whole thing, and she didn't want to 427 00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:10.680 talk to me like this sucks. I'm looking about basically why I stopped online 428 00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:15.319 dating in the first place, Like it's it was fun, but like a 429 00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:18.720 lot, I do think a lot of the psycontact does take a backseat to 430 00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:21.720 the rest of the stuff, And like I maybe did the door dash thing 431 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:26.640 twice. I did, Like there's an entire like Pokemon snap thing where you 432 00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:32.079 take pictures of perverts, so I only did once, Like there was simultaneously 433 00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:34.839 too much of it, and also the stuff was not suit like not as 434 00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:38.720 engaging as previous stuff. But also there's never gonna be one as good as 435 00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:44.640 the cabaret club like host thing was, so I'm always just gonna be chasing 436 00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:48.119 that dragon. Yeah, And I think something that you mentioned is something that 437 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.799 I talked about on Twitter and some people disagreed with a bit. And I 438 00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:56.319 think that like the FMV stuff that they do with the dates is way way 439 00:31:56.319 --> 00:32:00.079 worse than when they were like just people in the game who you would go 440 00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:05.319 on dates with and have stub stories with. And it is way fucking creepier 441 00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:09.720 and it's way more uncomfortable when it's like these voyeuristic, like one on one 442 00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:13.039 live action things like they're funny for a bit, then you go on to 443 00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:15.480 your third one and you're like, this is fucking weird. And I think 444 00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:21.240 that like the most telling thing about that is that he the character who's like 445 00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:24.720 always fucking cursing, and she's like just curses up a storm. She was 446 00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:30.119 one of the cabaret people in the Man who raised his name and she yeah, 447 00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:36.039 and she had no story in that thing other than just like being boobs 448 00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.799 and you get rewarded for saying the right thing. And then in this she 449 00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:42.920 has a story and she's like an actual interesting character, and it's like, 450 00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:47.720 oh yeah, you can still like have interesting women characters at the side. 451 00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:52.279 You can even do like love interest characters. But then you just have this 452 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:57.640 whole segment that's like fucking kind of uncomfortable. And I think like they should 453 00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:00.839 be better than thatsh at this point because they've done it better before. Yeah. 454 00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:06.279 I so like, we recently moved my wife's office, which is why 455 00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:09.039 it's a mess down back here, like from this room to the living room. 456 00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:13.839 Uh, my wife plays this theory, she knows all about it. 457 00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:19.319 I was still embarrassed with those FMV segments with her in the room. Yeah, 458 00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:23.200 yeah, I've reconfigured my desk situation so my partner doesn't really see my 459 00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:28.920 screens anymore. Because when we do the BombCast, when I was still streaming 460 00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:30.680 out of a kitchen, she'd occasionally look over and be like, why is 461 00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:34.960 there? Why are there anime boobs on your screen? Like why do we 462 00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:37.200 have to have this talk every Friday? I'm like, God, sorry, 463 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:40.839 it's just it's just how it goes here. Just got normal, is it? 464 00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:45.799 And you normal? Just stop sending you all of those boobs? Yes, 465 00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:51.680 Sean, please stop? Uh? Anyway? Uh? And Ron, 466 00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:54.480 you touched on this? Is there too many things in this game? Uh? 467 00:33:55.119 --> 00:34:00.920 I think So I finished the game at like roughly eighty hours, given 468 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:05.440 like not a review timeframe, I probably would have rounded one hundred. Uh 469 00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:07.639 yeah, I think there are maybe too many, Like I didn't even finish 470 00:34:07.719 --> 00:34:10.920 all the side quests or all that stuff, like stuff I really wanted to 471 00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:16.199 do. But I think at some point I was there's a part where you 472 00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:21.360 are as as cure, you just going to places that like mean something to 473 00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:23.760 him that he reminisces about, and I was like, oh, I need 474 00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:27.280 to get all this stuff because like I want to know all this stuff before 475 00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:29.760 I get to the ending, and like, I want to finish Curious Story. 476 00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:32.840 And when I finally got the mom I'm like, there was not really 477 00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:36.920 a point in doing this, Like it's it's neat, but I don't feel 478 00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:39.480 like particularly more enriched for having to cram all this in for one in one 479 00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:44.840 day. I think this it is a lot more palatable if you were playing 480 00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:49.880 at a not review pace, But like the trying to cram it all in, 481 00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:53.760 it's all just overwhelming and not a great way sometimes. Yeah, the 482 00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:57.079 way you always have to think about it is like, hey, if I 483 00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:59.920 have more than two weeks to play all of this, would I be enjoy 484 00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:02.679 it more? Like if I wasn't up lace, if I didn't have to 485 00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:07.079 get up early to play some fucking more of this, would I be enjoying 486 00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:09.400 this side bullshit more? And like, yeah, it actually becomes way more 487 00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:15.159 fun when you're not rushing. I like some of the key you reminiscing stuff, 488 00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:19.599 especially the more involved stuff, and I think some of those are really 489 00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:24.480 really good, and they bring back some characters who were done dirty by the 490 00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:30.559 series, and they also don't bring back some characters who shouldn't be bought back 491 00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:38.119 because the actors are problematic? Mm hmm, he thinks about Yeah, she's 492 00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:43.639 like, oh, she's off in the upstate farm. He's doing great. 493 00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:49.280 How do y'all feel about the torch being passed to Ichibon? Here? And 494 00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:53.440 I mean it kind of already happened, Scout, I swear to God right 495 00:35:53.480 --> 00:36:00.159 now, that's true, that's true. How do you all feel about the 496 00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:05.920 keeping this on the podcast though she's she's gonna initiate a fight with someone right 497 00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:08.199 now probably hell yeah, wins. How do you all feel about the torch 498 00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:14.199 being passed? Like the future of this series being in Ichibon's lovely but dumb 499 00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:19.920 hands. I think this game has set it up almost better than seven did, 500 00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:22.440 because seven was like a very blank slate of like, Okay, the 501 00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:27.320 Yakiza is gone, what do we do now? And this game kind of 502 00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:31.840 reinforces the idea of we it's gone, but that doesn't mean it's actually gone. 503 00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:35.400 That means that we still have just a lot more problems to deal with. 504 00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:39.360 And I think now I feel very good about Ichibon being the next like 505 00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:45.119 protagonist in the series, the next like main role. I do think with 506 00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:46.840 as much as I have praised what they have, done with Kiriu in this 507 00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:51.840 game. They did make Ichibon look small a little bit in this one, 508 00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:57.199 and they need to come out bombastically with the next one of him being the 509 00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:00.480 sole driver of the plot, not sol the main driver of the plot. 510 00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:05.920 With the next one or else he's it's going to feel like he's less shaping 511 00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.639 the direction of the series and more just being taken along for the ride. 512 00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:14.760 Gotcha, gotcha? Yess yeah. I think that, like there's like a 513 00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:17.280 really important scene that happens pretty later on where Eachibon and kir You have like 514 00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:22.159 a really good conversation, and I think that's like the moment where they're like 515 00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:25.599 the future is in your hands now sort of sort of deal, and looking 516 00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:30.239 at where Eachibon is at the end of this game, I think, like 517 00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:32.800 Mron said, there's a lot of work that needs to be done to just 518 00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:36.599 get him like kind of back up to where he needs to be for this, 519 00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:38.840 but they've clearly given him like a very clear runway to do so, 520 00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:45.079 and they've given Eachibon like very clear like here's what Ichibon is going to do 521 00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:49.639 next. And just because the Yakuza has been dissolved or whatever from seven, 522 00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:53.360 like the real work starts now, and I think that's the important message for 523 00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:58.400 Eachibon is like he has a clear thing ahead of him that he needs to 524 00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:01.280 do, and it was very nice to see kre you kind of be like 525 00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:06.639 here you go. Yeah. I think they also do a really good job 526 00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:09.360 of I mentioned it before, but like setting him up to not just do 527 00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:14.400 the same things again, not just get in the same like fights with different 528 00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:17.199 clans, not just get in the same fights. Like all of the Itchuman 529 00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:22.519 stuff that we've seen so far has been a lot more focused on societal ills 530 00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:28.199 than like clam melo drama or in fighting or families or anything. Something. 531 00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:34.199 I think that like the ending of this game Fucking Nails is allowing to you 532 00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:38.079 to have a moment of weakness and like just sit with it. And I 533 00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:42.960 think that that's so powerful for Like, something that I've always said about these 534 00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:45.760 games is even from the first game, Ku starts out as like a dhy 535 00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:50.159 he's got He goes to jail for like ten years, and then he comes 536 00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:52.159 out and everyone's like, Oh, he's a fucking dragon Adolgima. He's like 537 00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:57.320 already a legend. And then this game at the end just allows him to 538 00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:01.000 have a really nice, quiet moment where he's not the strongest guy in the 539 00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:06.519 room. He's not like the most powerful person, and it was something that 540 00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:09.880 the character like desperately needed and was just to have a moment where he's allowed 541 00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:15.440 to just be a guy. Uh. Y'all could probably speak to this better 542 00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:20.480 than I could, just because of y'all's familiarity with these series. But I 543 00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:25.239 was pleasantly surprised a lot playing this game with the social issues that they were 544 00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:30.199 touching on, and specifically of like, oh, oh, y'all are gonna 545 00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:34.119 mention the homeless population and how expensive it is to live in Hawaii? Oh 546 00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:37.760 cool? Yeah, yeah, all right, and then just generally their tone 547 00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:43.559 with this game about treating like unhoused folks and the homeless population across the board, 548 00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:49.159 and also touching on stuff like police brutality and yeah, just like a 549 00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:54.960 lot of problems of even colonization in Hawaii that I was like, oh shit, 550 00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:59.000 y'all are going there? Is that par for the course for like the 551 00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:04.679 series as a whole, or is that's something that may be unique to like 552 00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:07.440 a Dragon. They really hone their teeth on that in the Judgment games. 553 00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:15.079 I think because first judgment is all about medical malpractice basically, and then the 554 00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:20.679 second judgment is all about high school bullying, and I think they got way 555 00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:25.480 better at reating those issues with like the respect they deserve. The Yakuza franchise 556 00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:30.320 has always loved to bring in big issues but then not really tackle them a 557 00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:37.960 whole lot. Like Yakuza six is all about Chinese triads bringing immigrants over and 558 00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:42.039 their meeting shelter and being undocumented, but it doesn't really do a whole lot 559 00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:45.960 with that story or address or give its opinion on it even And I think 560 00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:52.280 the Judgment games have given them a chance to like actually figure out what the 561 00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:57.599 opinions are are on a lot of these things. I will say, this 562 00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:00.960 game does say a cab with like its entire time, Yeah it does. 563 00:41:01.079 --> 00:41:05.719 Yet like there is not a single good cop and the only cop like except 564 00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:08.079 Adachi, I guess, and he's not even a cop, so like it's 565 00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:13.440 it like you go through there and they you can clear clearly see they came 566 00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:15.400 up with a mentality of yeah, cops are real shit in America, right, 567 00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:20.400 and like, yeah, you are correct. This is roughly how a 568 00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:24.079 lot of things would probably go if you were an immigrant in Hawaii, like 569 00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:29.559 you would, you would find a lot of like racism and uh classism and 570 00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:35.119 corruption and on the police force. I was talking to the homie, Michael 571 00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:37.280 Hyam, and one of the things one of his issues of the game was, 572 00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:43.199 uh, the there's a tonal whiplash with a lot of like the side 573 00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:46.199 stuff. And I can kind of understand that because like, there there is 574 00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:52.400 fun side stuff of let's help this rock band create a storm so they can 575 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:55.199 fill a music video. And then you go from that to this woman is 576 00:41:55.239 --> 00:42:00.360 being forced into sex work by a cop and we would probably beat the share 577 00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:07.360 of this cop and stop this. Like I do think this game like there 578 00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:09.599 are a few social issues that it hits on with as much bigger as it 579 00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:16.039 hits on. Cops in America be bad. Yeah, the the cop that 580 00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:22.920 you encounter through the main story in the early bits. His conclusion that that 581 00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:27.480 was reached was shocking, and I was like, God, damn, are 582 00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:30.920 we gonna talk about that afterwards? Oh, we just left them there. 583 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:34.960 Huh, that's that happened. And like I was like, this is a 584 00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:38.079 Simpsons joke. This happened in the Baseball episode of The Simpsons as a joke, 585 00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:44.559 but it's actually not that unrealistic to happen here. Something I'm not gonna 586 00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:46.239 say I loved it, but oh, let's go ahead. Something I was 587 00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:52.360 gonna say was I really liked some of their villains having a bit more complexity 588 00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:55.000 than they did in the lat Then in seven, I think ya Maya is 589 00:42:55.039 --> 00:43:00.000 a really fucking good character. I really like Jamie and he's a great counter 590 00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:04.280 to Itchi Ban in the same way that Magima was a great counter to Cure 591 00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.760 You, and like he's just a fucking dirt bag, but he's also like 592 00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:12.840 she does the right thing every now and again. And then when they reveal 593 00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:15.719 why he does what he does and why he feels the way he does, 594 00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:20.239 I think that that's a really good character moment of like letting that villain breathe. 595 00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:25.119 And I do also think that like he is totally coming back because some 596 00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:29.360 of the postgame stuff that they do where they get you to fight bosses again 597 00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:32.079 with the DLC that they that they've released, one of them is like, 598 00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:37.880 oh, do like boss fights and against imaginary versions of the enemies, and 599 00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:40.119 one of them is Yamaya Magima, and it's like, oh, they know 600 00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:44.239 what they have on their hands. They know that this character is like totally 601 00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:49.079 I think he is this game song he where they will be so popular they 602 00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:51.960 will have no choice but to bring them as like a party ember next game. 603 00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:58.159 Yeah, Ichiband seems like he he follows the Goku archetype of like I'll 604 00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:00.079 fight you, but then I'll befriend you and you a sense who being and 605 00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:05.880 then we're homies forever. Now we were talking about this internally at GB. 606 00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:14.280 But where do y'all think Echybond ranks in the RPG protagonist? Uh, pantheon, 607 00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:17.159 Like on the on the greater scale, and that the scale can be 608 00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:22.400 towards your personal scales depending on how you feel about someone like Cloud Strive for 609 00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:25.880 whoever above the guy from the bouncer, that's for sure that guy. How 610 00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:36.239 dare you who never speak ill on Seon Barsad's name ever it tooks you a 611 00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:42.039 moment to amembush, I would just overcome with emotion, all right. I 612 00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:47.119 will say he's like he's very close to like top end I okay, and 613 00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:52.280 that he has a character and that like that character is someone who is fun 614 00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:55.239 to play ass and fun to watch what they do. Like I really loved 615 00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:59.239 in the game that every time Ichabon mentioned running for office and was like, 616 00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:02.480 you mean for like school, you mean like you read for office. But 617 00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:06.840 like, I will also say, one of the down parts of this game 618 00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:09.760 is that Ichibon doesn't really have an arc. He ends it roughly the same 619 00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:15.599 place he does at the at the beginning, which is, I mean great, 620 00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:19.079 nothing can break him, But I would like to I would like for 621 00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:22.400 them to use further games to actually explore more. Most of Itchabon in this 622 00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:25.280 game he find like very early on, he finds out his mother is alive, 623 00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:30.480 and yeah, you get some degree of development with that, but like, 624 00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:35.719 they kind of write it off real fast, and I wish Ichibon did 625 00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:39.199 have uh I hesitate to make it sound this dramatic, but I wish he 626 00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:43.679 had a little bit of pathos to like at least further and arc for him. 627 00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:46.400 I'm willing to let it go this time. We'll see what they actually 628 00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:51.480 bring for the character next time. But to actually be like one of the 629 00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:54.840 best JRBG protagonists, he needs a bit more to him than just golden retree 630 00:45:54.880 --> 00:46:00.639 for boyfriend. Okay, okay, Jesse, do you where do you fall 631 00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:04.679 with that? Uh? He is? He is in the upper end. 632 00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:07.599 But I kind of like exactly agree with him Ron on this one. It's 633 00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:13.440 just like it feels like a circle, right, it feels like there's some 634 00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:15.840 high highs in this game, but then he ends up in the same place, 635 00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:20.199 almost like to a t, exactly where he began. Uh. And 636 00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:24.039 it's it's a little frustrating, and it's like one of my gripes with sort 637 00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:29.599 of how the story pans out in this game. But like he's so lovable 638 00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:31.559 that you like can't not want to take a bullet for him, you know 639 00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:35.960 what I mean, Like you, like I love you, Jesse, He'd 640 00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:37.320 take the bullet for you. Yeah, and then I'd push him back out 641 00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:39.480 of the way, and this bullet would be going very very slow, and 642 00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:44.280 it would be just us pushing each other back and forth. So it's hard 643 00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:46.280 not to love him because like he is so lovable, but like, yeah, 644 00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:51.840 we've only had two games with him, uh, and like here you 645 00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:55.320 we've had eight, nine, ten, I don't even know how many games 646 00:46:55.320 --> 00:46:59.360 at this point. Uh. And so like I think there's more work to 647 00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:01.760 be done. But I think, like, if I'm betting, I think 648 00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:05.920 that by the time we have seen more Ichi Bond games, will will lead 649 00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:08.280 if not as in love with Cri like him, is cure you? If 650 00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:12.840 not more, I think there's more to love and I can't speak ill of 651 00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:16.639 my husband, So just well, I was gonna ask, y'all. Okay, 652 00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:23.800 now we've we've established roughly where each bomb lands in the Greater Protagonist rpg 653 00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:31.199 UH pantheon. How close is he from Daddy to Zaddy or is he in 654 00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:37.960 between? Or is he completely still in the hymbo scale of things. I 655 00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:44.400 struggle to see Ichibon as any sort of sex positive character. Like I mean, 656 00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:47.679 he is objectively he is, but like for me, he is a 657 00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:53.719 child and he falls into that. He occasionally falls into He occasionally falls into 658 00:47:53.840 --> 00:48:00.719 the he occasionally falls into the UH. The beloved fan theory that Captain America 659 00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:07.360 Steve Rodgers MCU is a virgin where he's just continually fighting for puritanical things, 660 00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:13.280 and that's that's where he may not be quite Daddy or Zaddy yet. I 661 00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:17.920 will say so. Yakuza seven had a thing where you could date everyone in 662 00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:21.239 the game, and there was a side quest where all the women would get 663 00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:23.880 mad at you and try and beat each a ban up. That might be 664 00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:29.480 the only non canon side quest I have seen in this series because of this 665 00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:35.079 non canon stuff. In the DLC, they sell you it you there is 666 00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:38.000 canon sub stories where Ichibond fucks though in this game I will say, yes, 667 00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:42.719 okay, but like in the beginning of yak our beginning of Like a 668 00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:45.800 Dragon eight, he does like say, I've never really been on a date, 669 00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:51.719 so he is not. This was the first real thing in this game 670 00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:55.599 of him being like so girls, huh. I will I will say like 671 00:48:57.039 --> 00:49:00.559 he might have had sex by time credits role in this game, but I 672 00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:02.800 don't think he knows what sex is. Yeah. Yeah, he's a very 673 00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:06.199 Goku like like, oh yeah, is it like some kind of food? 674 00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:10.239 Yeah, every situation he's in in the sub stories I have done where like 675 00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:15.159 there is implied sex, he's very much like what do you mean, what 676 00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:20.079 are you talking about? What is this? And it's like, oh boy, 677 00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:25.440 oh that was my day. I will say. This isn't to say 678 00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:30.320 that the romance that is in the in the Aplosh is bad, but I 679 00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:32.159 do think the best romance in this game is between a craw fish and a 680 00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:37.519 lobster. Oh absolutely, yeah. I mean you know, love knows no 681 00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:39.559 bounce. We all know that. I do really like the scene which has 682 00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:46.480 no other purpose because I just like getting showing their friendship where Namba takes Itchab 683 00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:51.920 on his side and goes like, hey, Chetose is cute? Are you? 684 00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:55.559 Are you murting with Herb's like she's like twenty, and I was like 685 00:49:55.800 --> 00:50:01.599 yeah. So my favor scene in that, probably in the entire game, 686 00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:07.400 is when Ichibon is sitting down with uh Nanba and Adachi and they're going over 687 00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:12.360 his date from the night before, and the two of them there's this moment 688 00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:15.840 where Ichibon explains what happens and Nanba is just quiet and he's like holding a 689 00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:21.679 soda and he just shakes it and you just hear the ice ruffle, and 690 00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:24.639 then he just doesn't say anything, and it's like this perfect moment. It's 691 00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:30.519 like a wide shot of the restaurant. It's Itchibam like slowly explains and greater 692 00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:32.519 detail the things that he said, like beef by bees. Yeah, they're 693 00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:37.280 just like, dude, you can't fucking say that. Man. I know 694 00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:43.119 you've been in prison, but like Jesus Christ, due So the most realistic 695 00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:47.760 thing is she says she's not mad, but then you find out hours and 696 00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:52.760 hours later when she's talking to Carriou. Yeah, I was pretty pissed off 697 00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:55.599 by that. She she just told him like she wasn't mad, and she 698 00:50:55.880 --> 00:51:01.719 was like, oh good, I think, uh problems, problems of being 699 00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:05.760 a Himba problem, problems of being a little dummy. But he's he's my 700 00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:08.280 favorite dummy. Folks, we've almost gotten to the end of our time here 701 00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:12.920 and I'm gonna I mentioned this at the tippy top before we started Recording'm gonna 702 00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:15.559 ask Hell to give this a arbitrary score, but not how you think. 703 00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:20.519 We're gonna go around the room and give it an emoji, all right, 704 00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:24.920 the best emoji to encapsulate your feelings. You can do up to three. 705 00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:30.199 I'll give you all time to maybe look at you're recently used and think about 706 00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:35.519 what series of emojis you would like to give to, like a dragon, 707 00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:40.400 infinite wealth. I'm like a six year old in a twenty three year old 708 00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:45.599 body. I don't use emojis. Well, well, lex, you're gonna 709 00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:50.400 have to explore the rich world of emojis you can use like a building. 710 00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:53.039 It doesn't even have to be any of the faces audio listeners. Everyone is 711 00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:58.159 concentratedly looking down. I have to look at emojis and figure it out. 712 00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:00.599 This was this was this was a good pick. It's gonna take me a 713 00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:05.079 second, though, Folks at home, if if you'd like to play along, 714 00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:09.159 feel free to throw in your specific emojis as well. I solicited some 715 00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:12.800 questions from the chat, and there were not really a lot of questions, 716 00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:15.800 So and we'll go with this. Okay, I think I think I have 717 00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:21.719 two at least so A lightning vault because my baseball bat had a lightning effect 718 00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:25.159 and that's pretty cool. Okay, yeah, a rainbow because this game, 719 00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:29.719 in its final sequence has one of the most whole mob archic shots in any 720 00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:39.599 video game ever. Okay, it was just very tired uh light in a 721 00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:45.320 rainbow and a cruise ship. Okay, okay, all right, all right, 722 00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:51.440 I like this. I'm gonna go American flag, uh huh, lobster 723 00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:58.559 and the two guys wrestling because I like that cry in beast mode was just 724 00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:01.360 basically a get behind other character and throw them for a lot of damage. 725 00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:08.280 Character. Yes I am. I'm going to go magnifying Glass because this game 726 00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:17.760 is introspective. I'm going to go Salsa dance Lady Emoji because this game is 727 00:53:17.880 --> 00:53:30.280 fun and I'm going to go praying hands emoji because there's some there's some some 728 00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:35.280 cult like activities something like that. Yeah. Something that's worth mentioning is that 729 00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:39.199 this game straight up like does the RPG thing of like, hey, you're 730 00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:44.559 gonna fight God by the way, it goes full residueval four by the end 731 00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:51.639 of it. Yeah, okay, okay J five Right, Yes, yeah, 732 00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:54.840 it basically does that towards the end where it's like, actually, turns 733 00:53:54.840 --> 00:54:00.599 out you're just finding the concept of religion and organized religion in particular. Oh 734 00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:04.000 hell yeah, I'm all about that. Can I say that that character who 735 00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:06.639 I'm not gonna name because they're like villain turn is actually like a thing. 736 00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:12.760 But that character in the Japanese language, Yes, he has the most insane 737 00:54:12.920 --> 00:54:19.360 English voice acting I have ever heard. It's wild to listen to. It's 738 00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:21.719 like, how do they get like, I think because they make a big 739 00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:24.039 deal about people who speak English and people who don't. Japanese actors like Tomas 740 00:54:24.079 --> 00:54:29.159 I was a Japanese actor and he speaks like some English and like it has 741 00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:32.920 a Japanese accent, but it's not as egregious as this character. It is 742 00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:37.920 clearly like this old Japanese man who is being a white guy. Yeah, 743 00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:43.239 and like it is kind of wild when all the other characters they try to 744 00:54:43.599 --> 00:54:46.360 line it up or fudge it a bit more. It is weird. Also, 745 00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:52.159 I was convinced that that character wog Too was Daniel Daykim. Turns out 746 00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:58.599 Daniel day Kim is an Eva and I was like, oh what that wrong 747 00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:04.920 tone looks exactly like him? Like yeah. I also learned that Danny Trejo's 748 00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:10.800 character obviously does not voice the Japanese dubya, but doesn't they don't pull his 749 00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:16.559 English lines for when he does speak English in that it's a different person entirely, 750 00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:20.320 And I'm like, why didn't you just pull the English ones? And 751 00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:23.239 it was like a contract thing or like they can have it for one language 752 00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:28.400 track or what. I very strange. Also, just real quick, I 753 00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:31.039 think this game plays real fast and loose with who Kenon cannot speak Japanese in 754 00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:35.760 this world, to the point where I'm like, there's like one substory and 755 00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:37.599 I'm like, why do you know how to speak Japanese? Nothing about your 756 00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:44.519 character says you could speak fluent Japanese. Everyone he speaks Japanese occasionally, somebody 757 00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:49.320 like people will speak English, and the main story there's there's a whole substory 758 00:55:49.360 --> 00:55:52.719 about a guy who's like, oh, Japan, Japan stuff is for webs 759 00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:55.360 like I like America and I'm like, bro, you are speaking to me 760 00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:59.280 in fluent Japanese. What do you mean you don't you don't like Japanese? 761 00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:05.480 What are you saying? Well? Thank you everyone for your emoji reviews. 762 00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:08.079 The Emoji scale is going to be the new review scale here at giant bomb 763 00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:12.800 dot com. Sorry to our sister website Metacritic for having to figure out the 764 00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:16.440 math on that, but folks, thank you for sharing your time, sharing 765 00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:19.719 your time. I feel like I want to take all yell to an island 766 00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:23.360 and we'll just roll around on our segues and just shaka the denizens and citizens 767 00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:29.480 of Hawaii Lex Where can find Where can people find you on the Internet? 768 00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:34.119 I usually wind up on this website every now and again, But when I'm 769 00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:38.199 not lurking in tash and annoying Jeff web and you can find me over at 770 00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:42.159 start Menu. I'm on that website. It's for young people trying to break 771 00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:45.920 into the games industry and cool. We're doing cool things there. You can 772 00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:50.400 follow us on Twitter at the start menu. I also freelance. You can 773 00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:52.920 find me on Twitter at basically lexi both spelt with eyes at the end of 774 00:56:53.000 --> 00:57:00.159 them. And I also live in Mike Minatei's waves. Yep, it's a. 775 00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:02.039 It's a It's a warm place to be. It smells like churos and 776 00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:07.519 popcorn because those are the scented candles that Mike Manatti has, uh and he 777 00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:09.800 totally got them at Disney World, at Epcot, im ron Con. Where 778 00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:14.440 can folks find you? I am now a free agent. You can find 779 00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:19.719 me on Twitter at m ron zu MG. You can find my Patreon at 780 00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:22.960 pros cons p R O S E K h A n S dot com. 781 00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:29.519 Uh. Patreon recently fucked me over because they dropped everyone who is from has 782 00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:32.719 international currency and did not resell them automatically. So if you guys want to 783 00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:37.079 come sub to my Patreon, please do. I apparently really need the money. 784 00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:40.960 Jesse, where can folks find you on the Internet? I am also 785 00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:46.000 a free agent. You can find me on Twitter, x, blue Sky 786 00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:51.079 whatever you want to do all the platforms at Jesse Vitelli j E S S 787 00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:53.639 E V I T E L L I. I'm doing some guys for hrack 788 00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:55.760 News right now for infinite wel So, if you need that help, you 789 00:57:55.800 --> 00:57:59.840 know where to find me, and yeah you might. You might meet pop 790 00:57:59.920 --> 00:58:02.199 up a few other places throughout the next coming weeks. But who's to say, 791 00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:07.440 Yeah, yeah, I love all of you. I'm gonna I'm gonna 792 00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:12.440 maybe convince you all to perhaps play poker with me online on this very website. 793 00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:15.440 Sure, in the near future, I might try and infect all games 794 00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:20.360 media with poker, and uh we we'll get along that way because we all 795 00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:23.639 just need a massive amount of debt. That's what the games media has been 796 00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:30.000 lacking. We'll play for like I don't know, like uh, seashells or 797 00:58:30.039 --> 00:58:37.079 something, and we will trade seashells each other. Doc boos the Imron. 798 00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:43.679 I've bought too many books on poker and I still don't understand shit. So 799 00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:46.440 it's gonna be great when we all eventually play poker. Folks, thank you 800 00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:50.800 for joining us for an episode of BombCast for Vengeance. A lot of lovely 801 00:58:50.920 --> 00:58:54.079 things going on the website and across the internet. Follow these lovely people. 802 00:58:54.639 --> 00:59:00.480 Please please, please please, I've been jaanmed forgot. I was gonna say, 803 00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:07.480 oh my god, what just happened. Oh god, yeah, I've 804 00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:13.880 been join coffy and it just start crashing and I just start thinking about like 805 00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:17.000 coffee and then my own place in the universe. But my place today has 806 00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:22.039 been right next to Lex Luddy, Imron Khan, Jesse Viteally and you find 807 00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:25.320 folks at home, have a fantastic weekend. Kisses on the cheek, Pour 808 00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:30.360 a cup of coffee for your boy. Actually, maybe don't pour another cup 809 00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:35.440 of coffee. I've had too much today. Drink water started at a lex. 810 00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:38.039 It's one where I'm at, so I can maybe warrant one more cup 811 00:59:38.119 --> 00:59:42.280 of Joe. But that's it, folks. We have got to go see 812 00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:47.719 you next week for another episode of John podcast Revenge Its I buffered for a 813 00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:54.679 second. Is what actually happened? Maya ran out a ram? What happens 814 01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:01.360 the state is instance