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You're listening to wake Up Call on demand

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on the iHeartRadio app. It's time
for your morning wake up call. Here's

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Jason Middleton warding everyone. This is
your wake up call. It's Thursday,

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June fifteenth. My name is Jason
Middleton. Just heard announcer man's stay is

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his wake up call, So welcome
in June fifteenth. I was doing some

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prep for the show today, obviously, and sometimes we look back in history

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and we say on this date kind
of things, and we usually skip over

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ninety eight percent of those, but
there were two that happened on this date

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that kind of relate to today's show. So real quick. Back in twelve

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fifteen, early thirteenth century, King
John of England puts his seal on the

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magnet Carta. Now that that's the
first document that put into writing the principles

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that the king and his government not
above the law. Later this hour on

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wake Up Call, we're going to
unpack a modern iteration of political power dynamics.

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And in eighteen seventy eight, Edward
my Bridge took a series of photographs

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to prove that all four feet of
a horse actually do leave the ground when

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it runs, and that study becomes
the basis of motion pictures. So for

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that when we're gonna update the writers
guild strike and when how and if motion

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pictures and other productions are gonna restart. So both of those are coming up,

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as well as other things this hour. A few quick headlines. New

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polling out shows former President Trump is
holding his lead among GOP voters for the

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Republican nomination despite his arraignment this week. He's got a significant lead still over

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Florida. Governor rond De Stantiff.
Texas is sending more migrants to La.

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Governor Greg Abbott there tweeted yesterday that
forty two migrants were put on a bus

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on their way to Los Angeles.
And it's been grace, guys for this

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Southland here a topic of discussion in
most cafes and dining tables, as I

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assume at least at my house.
But in the eastern US, hundreds of

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thousands are without power after severe weather
continues to slam the southeast. Let's look

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at some more stories coming out of
the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. We

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always lead local La City Council members
stay they're looking into the criminal case against

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councilman current Price. Price has been
accused of a paid a play scheme with

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developers. Council President paulker Corey and
says officials are now looking at the real

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estate projects Prices accused of voting in
favor of for his own financial interests.

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We're going to be looking at all
of those to see whether there are any

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reasons for concern about those real estate
projects themselves. Price was hit with ten

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criminal charges Tuesday. Yesterday, Emotion
was introduced to suspend Price in La Blake

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trolley k if I News. A
former EMT from Long Beach has been sentenced

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to more than twenty nine years in
prison for selling fentonel to two of his

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co workers. The co workers thought
they were buying cocaine, and one of

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them died from an overdose. The
former EMT has been in custody since his

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arrest in twenty nineteen. Authorities searched
the man's house and found more than a

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dozen illegal fire arms along with the
drugs. They say he shipped across the

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country and had been selling them locally
for a long time. Also, pills

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laced with fentanyl have been found in
drug stores in Mexico from coast to coast.

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Officials say the problem is bigger than
previously thought and is hitting tourist hotspots

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especially hard. An investigation earlier this
year found some of the pills looked like

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antibiotics and came in sealed bottles,
others were unlabeled white tablets, and several

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mimicked well known American versions of pills. At least a half a dozen Americans

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have overdosed or died from taking those
fake pills, but authority state it could

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be way more because Mexico doesn't do
routine toxicology tests. I believe the source

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of that investigation was the La Times. The state Attorney General says he demands

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answers from the state of Florida over
the transport of thirty six migrants from Texas

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to Sacramento. Rob says he sent
a public records request for documents, communications,

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and unredacted invoices related to the Florida
funded travel of illegal immigrants earlier this

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month. The migrants traveled in two
groups. Both started at a shelter and

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El Paso, then went by bus
to New Mexico and finally by playing to

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Sacramento. Banta said it was a
political stunt that's both immoral and deceptive.

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Florida officials say the migrants voluntarily signed
a waiver and were excited to go to

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California. Steve Gregory can off I
knows a lawsuit claims an almost eight million

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dollars settlement to save the Pacific Air
Show is nefarious, while hunting Debeach as

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its routine. Ocean View School District
Vice President Gina Clayton Tarvin says the settlement

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was made between France and should be
made public. That reeks of all pat

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your back, you pat mine,
what is this? This is not their

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personal kingdom. City attorney Michael Gates
says full details cannot be released yet because

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of pending litigation. Any accusation that
there was some favorable settlement and that we're

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hiding something, all of that is
completely not true now. Gates says it's

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a routine settle over the twenty twenty
one oil spill which forced the Pacific Air

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Show to shut down. ABC's Jim
Ryan is on the line with us.

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Good morning, Jim, Hey Jason. I'm certain this is a subject we'd

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rather not have to cover. It's
a fact in modern American though, and

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that's active shooter situations. And you
have a new FBI study in hand.

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Yes, these shootings, active shooter
situations are slightly different from mass shootings,

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and that they take some time,
they give police a chance to respond.

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You hear police reports of active shootings
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In many cases, mass shootings happen
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over and people are dead and wounded. If you look back at twenty twenty

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two, the FBI says that there
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states in the District of Columbia.
That's fewer than we had in twenty twenty

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one the year before, when there
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the same time, you had more
casualties last year than the year before.

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One hundred people were killed, two
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twenty twenty one, you had one
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So last year three hundred and thirteen
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hundred forty three. Fewer active shooter
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you did define active shooter or differentiate
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obviously it's harder to predict mass shootings. How precise is this toy though,

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when it comes to active shooters,
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it's based on police statistics and so, and it lays out just raw

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details the when, the where,
the who was involved, how many people

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were heard are killed. And the
difference here is that an active shooter situation

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happens in a public place, first
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more than one location. A person
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moves to a different location, and
the shooters actions weren't the result of another

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criminal act. But very often you
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shooters categories as well. You know, the situation that the outlan ball here

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in Texas is a perfect example of
shooting situation. Well, also was an

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active shooter situation because it did happen
in a public place, the victims were

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kind of random in that situation,
and that the shooter appeared to be hunting

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for specific people. Man, the
dynamics of this are fascinating and tragic at

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the same time. One thing that
was in the report that I think that

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we can talk about is the FBI
feels confident. It can it can estimate

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the month in time of a likely
shooter. How did they do that?

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Well, they're an estimating. I
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So the police report says that the
incident happened on j June fourteenth at three

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thirty in the afternoon, and so
they can compile those statistics into one big

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report. And doing that, the
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active shooter situations happened in May of
last year, when there were nine of

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them. January, in September of
last year, each month had only one

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I say only one, only one, but each one had one active shooter

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situation. By day of the week, Sunday appears to be the day that

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you had the most active shootings last
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Can I lean into your experience for
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if you go back in time,
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Texas. Yeah, Um, were
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kind of like a popular culture Bell
Weather moment? Well that you know,

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you've seen film of that, You've
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think that maybe how that one is
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this before, but you didn't have
somebody with in that case. I believe

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it was an eight millimeter camera capturing
images. The local TV station ran out

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there and had pictures of Charles Whitman
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the clock tower. Ut So I
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It absolutely was an active shooter situation
happened in the public place as students were

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being targeted. There were there incidents
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but that one, I think you're
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they mark and the calendar that one
in Kent State. To mind, I

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worked with somebody in Pittsburgh who was
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Last question, kind of a logistics
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internally? Was this coming out of
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Well, it's part of the FBI
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So this report will be made available
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and those departments then can do what
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go back to twenty eighteen. That's
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I mean, I don't think I
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well Columbine really the late nineteen nineties, and then after that. It seems

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to be kind of a flood of
information. ABC's Jim Ryan always a pleasure

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to speak with you, even about
tough topics. Thank you very much.

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Thanks Jason, get back to some
of those stories coming out of the KFI

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twenty four hour newsroom. Want to
highlight this when supervisors in Orange County have

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unanimously voted to make June Pride month, but it was not without some bickering

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to celebrate and promote men who dresses
women and who want me to lie and

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call them women. Critics made similar
arguments to last week when supervisors appeared to

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ban the Pride flag. The hateful
mean words by those of you who came

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up to this podium and lectured us
and told us to be kind. Are

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you kidding me? Supervisor Katrina fully
said, in response to someone asking for

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stats, I'll tell you the stats. Eighty three percent increase in hate crimes

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towards our LGBTQ plus community here in
Orange County in the last year. Supervisor

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Andrew do said, this week.
The county has always supported Pride Month,

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which he says, it's supposed to
be about acceptance and tolerance, but Pride

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Month and a pride community has been
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Just because they disagree with all a
volt, they twisted around and make

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it a political statement. In Orange
County, Corbin Carson k if I News,

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the LA archbishop says he will hold
a special mask for healing because of

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the Dodgers honoring the Sisters of Perpetual
Indulgence. The team chose to honor the

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self described drag nuns for their service
to the community. Equality. California's Jorge

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Selina says by holding a prayer session
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be recognized, the archbishop is further
dividing the community. I was raised a

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Catholic and understood the word of the
Catholic Church, and I still consider myself

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a strong Catholic while being a proud
gay man. The archdiocese says Friday's mass

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will focus on community healing and renewed
respect for religious beliefs. Chris Adler KFI

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News. Quinnipiac University poll is showing
that former President Trump leads Florida Governor Roda

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Santis by thirty percent, with fifty
three percent of respondent saying they'd vote for

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the former president. President Biden holds
a slight lead over Trump, forty eight

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percent of support over Trump's forty four
percent from that poll. While the Supreme

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Court decides if President Biden's student debt
forgiveness plan is constitutional, Republicans are rolling

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out a plan of their own.
The GOP has introduced the Lowering Education Costs

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and Debt Act in the Senate.
It's a package of bills aimed keeping down

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the apparently ever increasing costs of higher
education and right wing conspiracy theorist Alex Jones

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could face two more defamation trials over
school shooting lies. The trials would set

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the value of defamation claims if no
settlement is reached now. The claimants include

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parents of a child killed in the
twenty twelve Sandy Hook shooting in Newtown,

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Connecticut. At five thirty three ish, we're gonna get my take on the

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FED and the pause and interest rate
hikes that we got yesterday. We pulled

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some sound from the news conference with
FED Chair J. Powell. Those can

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sometimes sound kind of business ee jargon. Ee Powell is better than past fed

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chairs when it comes to speaking plainly. But still, we're going to try

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to unpack a little bit more of
that right now. When public figures make

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questionable decisions while seemingly having it all
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to stability, fame, or social
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are head scratching moments for the rest
of us. So through that lens.

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ABC's Brad Garrett is on the line
to talk with us about former President Trump

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and a disclaimer, again, this
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It's about character and personality. Welcome
in ABC's Brad Garrett. Good morning,

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Jason, Good morning, sir.
So Trump held the single most identifiable job

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on the planet. Basically, why
does he seemingly behave so recklessly because I

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think you know, wherever you go
there you are right, And this is

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how he's sort of functioned before he
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you believe Mary Trump niece, who
has written this book that she's a psychologist,

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it's a pretty detailed profile at which
she thinks of why the president thinks

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the way he does. And I
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and there's other people I think they
have supported this, that he was

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raising in a pretty sort of verbally
or emotionally abusive household between his father and

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his mother, and that you know, kids, they grow up in those

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environments, now I'm generalizing, tend
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They either get loving, caring empathy
from other adults, or they sort of

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become hardened and that they see that
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control. And maybe in his case, he's his father become quite wealthy by

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maybe acting that way, and so
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picked up as a way of functioning. In other words, it's like ingrained

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in this personality. And so the
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most powerful job may even give you
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do whatever you want to do,
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it struck me Jason looking at this
most recent indictment in Florida, is that

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his own words, in his words
to and direction of people around him that

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work for him, that are loyal
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got major issues, has become a
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to him. And then he turns
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for saying this as a witch hunt, of which which is fascinating because it's

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really of his own creation, right, and some of that has passed his

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prologue. I get that absolute power
corrupting, absolutely, but modern you know,

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modern dynamics of somebody like this,
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going to confirmation bias. He's got
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if you will further, does that
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of course, and I think in
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they tend to get rid of the
people who like disagree or are not

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willing to carry out whatever you know
that you and I and others may look

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at it as pretty irrational or could
be illegal, but certainly irrational way of

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thinking, because they can't tolerate that. They can only really tolerate you doing

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exactly what I tell you to do, whether it gives the law or not,

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or ethically or royally maybe not a
good thing to do, but you

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do it anyway because if not,
you won't keep your job. And people

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who'd grow up and don't have any
empathy and really are sort of driven by

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their own immediate needs and desires.
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as that I need to take care
of them, I need to help them.

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Do they see the rest of us
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and use? And then you know, if if they the person doing it,

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becomes more wealthy, then that is
a success. The rest of us

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are losers because we're not with them
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to do. This may be an
obvious question. You mentioned empathy there,

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the E word, But does that
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empathy dehumanizing others? Yes, that's
exactly right. Basically, you don't see

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people in a loving carrying way you
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use. And I mean there's a
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but I think it's just important for
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like President Trump don't like it,
that's totally their call, of course,

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but that you know, you need
to think about if the people who do

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think this way, how do you
pull the country together. How do you

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get us how do we get things
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Right, and clearly there's no shortage
of that going on today. Before you

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jumped on the line, I was
using some poll numbers out this morning from

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Quinnipiac and they show that he's got
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But given the conversation that you and
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guess my last question has to be
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he just able to keep floating?
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but he also may be able to
keep floating only because Jason, he's

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continued to float right through all of
this. I mean, he's even said

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it at rallies that his poll numbers
and you just quoted them have gone up.

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so do I an he's not going
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because that's how he's apparently been since
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to have another question because you use
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Are there any of those in play
that could change his behavior or change

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the way he thinks about his next
decision. No, because people who have

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sort of this grandiosity about who they
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who they can manipulate and who they
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powerful job in the world, it
would be beyond intoxicating for them, right,

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I mean it really goes down to
these I think this document case, I

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mean, it's obviously not the most
important case of the world, but it

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does give you a lot of insight
as to his way of thinking that you

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know, he turns it in that
it's a witch hunt in the FBI and

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dj have you know, been weaponized
against him. Well, these are all

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professional prosecutors. They just spent their
life for prosecuting people. And they may

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like or don't like President Trump,
but that's not relevant. They have to

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follow the facts. They have to
get up in court and say the following

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or witnesses say he said this,
he did this, he directed me to

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do that. All that stuff I
think is probably pretty clear in this case,

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but he will continue to turn that
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because I think that's just how he
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and that I don't think there's not
one thing that will change that. Thank

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you so much for your time this
morning. This has been a fascinating conversation.

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Was I really loved it when we
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today. So thank you. You're
welcome. Have a good day, Sea.

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five to fifty this morning. Yesterday, you may have noticed the headlines about

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the Federal Reserve announcing it is not
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not doing something becomes news is because
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to raising interest rates. This is
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ten straight rate height. This is
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are analysts who have full time jobs
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the FED just to kind of parse
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is a little more transparent with his
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who is now the Treasury Secretary,
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They all get ten year terms,
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you go back to Alan Greenspan,
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the He was like cryptic. I
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often with him. J Powell a
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sound yesterday from the news conference that
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a bit of sound and then we're
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associated with commercial real estate as well
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elevation those risks with higher still rates
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where to start. I'll start with
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watching that situation very carefully. Uh, there's a substantial amount of commercial real

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estate in the banking system. A
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It's well distributed. To the extent
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could take losses. We do expect
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there'll be banks that have concentrations and
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we're well aware of that. We're
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feels like it feels like something that
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to, you know, something that
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work its way in a systemic risk. A couple of things to unpack there.

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comes to the economy. Is specifically
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show on the weekends called Macrowth on
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we've been looking at this for a
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lot, and that's what the FED
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the labor market, the other thing
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They're trying to get us to full
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two percent at all times. But
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it comes to the macroeconomy in the
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say crisis just yet, but if
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in downtown Los Angeles, that is
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they're either not paying their bills,
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their loans, they're not looking to
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well, the interest rates are so
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right now. So for j Powell
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by the way, was from friend
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He's the chief economist over at banquet
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it's a commercial real estate m is
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housing and mortgage rates all the time, but we don't really look at

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the CRI. And I think that
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here's here's another clip, and we're
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to hear, but we'll talk about
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if you look two and three years
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because they're so highly uncertain. But
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comes down in the forecast, if
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rates are actually going up. Right, So it just to maintain a real

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should come down just to maintain real
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since we're probably going to we're having
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to be meaningfully positive and significantly so
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probably means that certainly means that it
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time as inflation is coming down really
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couple of years out. I think, as anyone can see, not a

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single person on the committee wrote down
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it, inflation has not really moved
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it. We're gonna have to keep
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I left that one run a little
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Powell can talk Turkey. He did
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right at the beginning and right at
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us a little bit in the weeds, but in the middle he did talk

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about. Nobody else on the Fed
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fact, we might even get another
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a hawkish pause, which means we're
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data. In it's summertime, things
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homesale market, so they're going to
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July is definitely on the table.
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right now. One more quick one, and this one has to do with

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the other mandate that the FAT has. Remember it's inflation two percent and full

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employment, so wages will continue to
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we're talking about is having wage increases
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at a level that's consistent with two
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think we've seen some progress. All
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down from extremely elevating, highly elevated
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they're they're moving back down, but
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want to see that that process continue
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see wage increases, particularly for people
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but we want that as part of
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to two percent, which benefits everyone. I mean, inflation hurts those same

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people more than anyone else. People
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worst and the fastest by high inflation. It's good for j. Powell as

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a FED chair to notice that I
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don't normally pull this out. But
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a paycut. You are having your
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still make the same wage. Now, he did mention that they are going

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up, but they're not keeping pace
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do this, and I've been covering
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the FED to pull this out like
this is heartening to see at the very

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least. So just be braced for
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will, using a business word,
for the rest of this year. Still

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think a short, shallow recession is
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resilient, and it keeps pushing out
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to be Q four this year or
Q one next year. New polling shows

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former President Trump is whole his lead
among Republican voters for the GOP nomination despite

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his arraignment this week. He's got
about a thirty point lead according to this

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poll on Florida. Governor Ron de
Santis, Texas is sending more migrants to

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Los Angeles. The governor there,
we did yesterday that forty two migrants are

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on their way and it's been gray
in LA. But back east, hundreds

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of thousands are without power after severe
weather slammed the southeast and continues to roll

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through the area. So now on
wake up call, we have David Weddell

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with us. Good morning, David, Good morning to you. Jason.

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David. You are a WGA member. You were also a strike Captain,

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some of your bonafide's here. According
to IMDb, Battlestar galacticus CSI, Crime

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Scene Investigation, Falling Skies, and
I guess you're one that was in production

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up until about six weeks ago was
for All Mankind? Am I right on

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that correct? So we finished production, we were post production, and we

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were getting ready to convene the writing
room for season five when the stri happened.

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Very cool. We're about six weeks
into this uh WGA strike. I

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know, I think you were piketting
just yesterday and you are a strike captain,

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M industry veterans every day you do. So okay, Well give us

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a review. What's what's your take
take of the past six weeks? Um,

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Well, we're negotiating, and we're
negotiating with our feet. We're negotiating

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by we're refusing to provide services to
or justly compensated and morales very high.

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We're very determined and we're going to
win. Now speaking officially, are there

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negotiations scheduled at this point? No, there's no negotiations scheduled at this point,

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but but they'll come back to the
table. It's just a matter of

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when they calculate it is the right
time for them. A lot of talking

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about the studios, the streamers,
the content companies. Yeah, I'm glad.

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Okay, let's go right there.
What are some of your concerns.

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Let's pull those up to the top
for people who may not be aware of

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what the WA is worried about and
what they'd like to negotiate around. You

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mentioned streaming right there. You want
to start with that. Well, we're

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in the streaming area. We're moving
to a place where everything will be streamed

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and almost nothing will be broadcast in
the next couple decades. And that's what

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this battle is about. It's about
the Future's about the economic changes and in

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the industry. And to put it
in a simple terms, I've written a

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couple of books. Okay, So
when you're the author of a book,

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you own the copyright to that material
for the rest of your life. You

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see, anytime that book is sold
anywhere in the world, you get a

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percentage of the profits in the form
of royalties because you own the copyright.

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In the film and television and the
streaming era, writers for those mediums,

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we give up our copyright, We
forfeit it in exchange for what are called

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residual rules. So we create the
content, but we also then participate in

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the profits from the content we created
in exchange for giving up our copyright.

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As we moved into the streaming era, these big companies have found ways to

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diminish those residuals. They're trickle compared
to what we used to have a healthy

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flow of residuals. And that keeps
writers going because we go from show to

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show to show and you have gaps
and employment. And then during those times

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when you have those gaps, those
residuals and they enable you to stay afloat,

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to keep a home, to keep
a family, you know, economy

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stable. And that's what this fight
is about. It's about how the company

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is gradually put a tourniquet to those
residuals, reducing them and reducing them and

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keeping more profits for themselves when we
create the content, when we give up

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our copyright, why should we do
that? So that that's a big part

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of it. Well, streaming didn't
sneak up on as it's been around for

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a while. When was the last
contract and was any of this negotiated back

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then? Well, when this was
originally negotiated was in two thousand and seven.

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So that was the last strike,
and that that was the infancy of

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streaming and we saw this coming even
then. And so the strike then was

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about they didn't want to give us
any residuals, any form of profit participation

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on the content that we created for
streaming. And what the company said then

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was, we don't know if this
streaming thing will ever make money. Hey,

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it's an experiment. We're losing money
on it. Therefore we can't give

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you any percentage. And it was
kind of an absurd position because if you're

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not making any money, why not
give us a percentage of it? Yet,

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so we won an important battle.
Then, I work on a streaming

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show for Apple. I get residuals, but they are they are a fract

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on what I would have gotten when
I started in this business twenty eight years

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ago, writing for a syndicated show. So, but it was an important

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precedent that we set. And then
after that strike, we had other priorities

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such as stabilizing our health fund and
our pension fund, and then we had

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to go through COVID and so we
know we have been dealt with, you

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know, in an unfair manner,
and that we're not getting the profits that

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we deserved, but we had to
choose our time to go to go to

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make a stand on this, and
now we're making that stand. David,

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you mentioned a little bit. Let
me reintroduce you WGA strike captain and a

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veteran writer here in the industry,
David Weddle. Do you you mentioned earlier?

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Morale is up on the pickets and
within the guild itself? Is there

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any word around the campfire about how
things are playing out getting ready for the

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next negotiating session? What I mean
is, are you talking online or on

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the picket line about shifting your positions? Are you guys firm as you move

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into the next yet to be scheduled
negotiation session. We have complete faith in

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our negotiating committee and are that that
lead this effort for the guild and participate

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in the negotiations. Those those those
members of that committee. Uh, they

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they're on the picket lines with us, and they make a point of showing

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up everywhere that we're picketing to explain
you know, the situation. What the

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situation is now is there's there's they
just made a they just made a deal

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the studios and the streaming content providers
with the Director's Guild. Uh, it's

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always in the Director's guild always negotiates
uh behind or ahead of us, and

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makes a deal ahead of us,
and that's used by the studios as of

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course sort of bludget. Look the
DJA made a deal, why can't you

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what's your problem? Uh now?
But now they're facing SAG, which had

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a very strong Screen Actors Guild strike
authorization, but almost as strong as ours.

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So I think what the studios are
content providers are are banking on is

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making a deal with SAG if they
can before June thirtieth, which I believe

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is the date that the contract expires
with SAG. If they can make a

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deal with them in averse strike,
then they'll come back to us and they'll

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say, look, here's the pattern
or what the other guilds negotiated. Why

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you know, why don't you adhere
to that? And so we'll go along

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those lives. They'll come back to
us at some point. Right now,

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they've offered no meaningful compromises, so
there's nothing to negotiate until they, you

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know, show some flexibility in their
positions, which they will somewhere in the

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next couple of months. Full disclosure. I am a member of SAG after

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it, and we have and will
continue to reach out to the Producers Association.

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This is a new show, so
we're going to get that side too.

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A couple of quick ones before I
have to let you go. One

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actually one quick one. Disney announced
this week that it has pushed back about

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a year that really of Avengers,
Star Wars and Avatar, although Disney CEO

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Bob Iger also says this is a
year of profitability. Is this internal business

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or is this a strike response?
It's I I you know, I would

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guess it's a strike response, but
I don't want I don't know all the

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inner workings of Disney, so i'd
be I can't. I can't act like

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I know exactly the reasons for those
decisions. But I do think the strikes

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a huge factor. And what's going
to happen where the squeeze on these content

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providers is I know lots of young
people and what they do is they join

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a streaming service to watch a particular
show, and then once they watch that

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show, if there's nothing new on
the platform that interests them, they cancel.

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They cancel the app, Uh,
they can't, and they go and

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they go on to another well,
if there's not going to be any new

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content, it doesn't take a genius
to see what it's going to happen.

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They'll start canceling those apps right left, So the offitability of these streaming companies

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will be in jeopardy. David Weddle, thank you for your time this morning,

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and until last night I didn't realize
this. You mentioned you've written two

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books. One of them is a
biography of Sam Peck and Paul. I've

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paid for that and I've read it
twice, so I bought once, read

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twice. I guess I got one
of these because of you. David.

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Thanks for joining us necessarily. If
you watch on my TV shows, which

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by the way, the most reason
ones for all mankind, and I have

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seen it, it's really good.
Um well, well you know what I

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mean. So, David, thank
you very much for your time this morning.

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Maybe we could talk again with some
better news later this summer, okay,

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will be my pleasure. Couples absolutely
a couple of quick more stories before

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we get to the top of the
hour and handle on the news. The

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Orange County Mosquito and Vector Control Agency
is using drones to control the mosquito population.

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The county could be seeing its worst
mosquito season yet with heavy rain from

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winter storms. The OC Mosquito and
Vector Controls Brian Brannon says the drones carry

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about twenty pounds of natural mosquito pesticide
that isn't harmful to animals. One way

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to prevent the transmission of disease and
keep mosquitoes at bay keep their populations down

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is by using drones, Brandon said
yesterday. The drones will be used in

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non residential areas that are hard to
access with traditional treatments. In Garden Grove.

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Chris Adler KFI News we lead local
live from the KFI twenty four our

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news room on Jason Middleton. This
has been your wake up call. You've

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