Hello, and welcome to the show. This is actually Part B with Kevin
Day again at the Ozark Mountain UFO conference. By the way, I just
highly recommend it was such a beautiful area and had such a great time.
So without further ado, I'm just going to run this interview I did with
Kevin. Here we go, Kevin Day, how are you glad to have
you again? I'm very happy to be here. I truly am. Yeah,
you know, it wasn't easy getting here. I have to tell you.
Yeah, I got to know you. You got stuck the plane.
Yeah, we had to dboard the plane in Phoenix and hydraulic leak on the
line and oh gee, that's a whole nother story. Yeah, but you
made it. You made it. Yeah. Yeah. So you and I
go way back, y, I talked way back when the Nimits was first
talked about the Nimts of Tiktak incident, whatever you want to call it.
You I had Robert Powell was on my show and you wrote a comment and
you two he verified who you were, and the whole thing blew up from
there. And look at all that's happened since then. But you've been on
all types of media and I got to tell you, so I didn't ask
for this, Yeah, in no way. Yeah, I'm just as astoundished
as anyone else. I remember, now there's a lot of people that are
kind of new to this, so we'll have to just do nutshells of here
and there to sure. But but I remember you telling me that you were
working at a golf course and you saw some thing on the TV. Is
that right? That is correct? Yeah? Yeah? Can I tell the
whole story so people, yeah, sort of provide some bookends to this whole
thing. Yep. For me, this story actually begins in nineteen eighty eight.
Mm. And I'm gonna get emotional. I know that already. Yep.
MM. When tick Yak happened, it was my last time on the
ship in uniform. I was getting ready to retire. Oh yeah. When
the ship pulled back into San Diego, I was transferring and I was a
the senior grader on the ship for the Stract group for Air Defense, and
the the rest of the track group was getting ready to go on the PLIMT
And this was our last check in the block, if you will. And
we had done months of planning for this. Ad X who call it air
defense exercise, and you know that's when it happened. It was it was
just bizarre, uh to put to put it lightly. And one of the
reasons why I think I saw them, if you will, I don't know.
I I it's hard to it sounds crazy to say these things. It
really does, and for viewers or listen, I totally get it. I
was the same way for a long time. I if I would have been
speaking like this during my military career, I woulda looked at him that person
like people looked at me like I had been doing drugs or had gone crazy
or whatever. And it was really hard, really hard, cause I wasn't
d any of those things. You know, I was just doing my job.
We have a safe we have a flight safety risk off the coast,
and no one we got clowned. No one would believe us. W There
was cartoons in that in the newspapers in Strike Group uh N clowning all of
us. Sure, you guys intercepted UFOs and every time that's all anyone heard
was a word ufo. Oh, they didn't hear anything about flight safety.
And that really pissed me off. You know why, because my first deployment,
the first time I was on a ship nineteen eighty eight, my first
deployment USS Vincen's July third, nineteen eighty eight. And now some of your
viewers and listeners might remember this. We're in the Persian Gulf the name of
it at the time, and our helicopter straight over Iranian International waters, and
rightfully, so you know, they responded, and I I'm not sure really
exactly what provoked them to fire, but they did. They've started firing at
our helicopter. So we went to general quarters and they started coming at us.
So we engaged them, and we ended up sinking uh eight of the
ball camers, I believe, and I think that's eight or nine of'em.
And it was a day at sea. No one would ever forget,
trust me. Mm I mean, can you imagine, like we were the
the the the bridge crews up there trying to get our heg go back on
board as they're spinning and dodging these m matt as held boats coming at us.
Geez. Yeah, it was a real real shit, no deal,
and right during that time, and you know, I was a junior guy.
I had had nothing to at all to do with air defense. My
first deployment, I was as close as I am to you right now,
that camera right there doing a n N non involved navigation function, which was
it the early version of what we called JOTS, a Joint Operation Tactical system
really a a big navigation system network system. So we're all sharing the same
grid. And that was my job, and we went to general quarters.
Happened to be on watch Captain comes down. Things got pretty nasty quick,
and all of a sudden, another air an air aircraft launched out of Iran
and started coming directly at US. And about a year before the USS st
ARC got hit by Irenian F one shot a Exosset missile and killed thirty seven
US sailors. Remember, yeah, and this was a July third, nineteen
eighty eight, and the next day was or a national holiday, July fourth,
So you know, I wasn't an intel, but it's not really hard
to figure out. You know, that's probably a key date to keep your
eyes open, right MM and that's when this thing launched and all all this
was going on, and during that day it so go figure right, and
there was confusing identification coming back and unfortunately shot down a commercial airliner MM two
hundred and ninety six people. Oh wow, mm jeez, I know that's
why I'm here right now. Yeah, my whole career. That that's what
kept me in the navy, almost got out. That was one of my
best friends in college was Iranians. We used to take martial arts classes together.
Really really good people. You know. I know it's gonna shock a
lot of folks hearing this, but there's good people there. Of course,
he really is. You know, I've been to Russia a number of times
and you know, I'm just making you know. You can think everyone in
Russia is like Putin, but when you meet them, there's a saying it's
hard to hate up close. And I think it might have been Michelle Obama
or someone I don't know who's who said it. But anyway, when you
get to know people, you know one on one, there's beautiful people everywhere,
no matter where they're from. Well, and what the religion is,
and it's what you know, the maybe the control of the UH population is
that turns people into doing the things they do. I don't know. I
don't know either, mm I I know we can fix it, I hope.
So yeah, we cann to mess nout right. Yeah. Yeah,
So I'm glad I got through that part of it. During my whole career,
I was, Oh, I was pretty vigilant about calm air he could
to say the least, you know, I was. I was mother.
I mothered the com air lines in lanes. You know, ny you can
ask anyone I saw if he'll tell you the same thing. And for good
reason. I had good, good reason to do that, you know.
Yeah. So going back to the you know, the present in two thousand
four, you know, it was many years later. Of course, my
last I was up. I just happened to be up in combat or he
was up there any anyway a lot during my off watch hours because I would
just be up there was a g you know where else you're gonna go on
a small ship, right and and uh it was either there up in the
operation's office up up above and I was up in uh combat comm Combat Information
center, see I see, we just called it combat for short. And
I was looking at the radar that we saw these objects coming from the suburb
orbit or not s uh s lower space if you will, eighty thousand feet.
I won't reveal the actual altitudes and stuff, but there were They came
in groups of five to ten at a time, and then just like that,
that fast, they would come down as a group up and set station
off the coast at Catalian Island twenty eight thousand feet and they would sit there
for a time, and then one by one, one by one, they
would traverse our whiskey two ninety one, which of their operating area off the
coast of San Diego, and they would leave Catalia Island and they would go
all the way down to an island called Guadelupe Island off the coast to Mexico.
And I thought it they were there to observed the whales, the grey
whales, cause gray wells migrate this in and there probably is a connection by
the way, and I thought they were here to say hi to the whales.
I just had this overwhelming feeling, huh. But deep inside me,
I knew they weren't hostile, no way. Anyone you talked to that was
actually there, up close and personal, like you just had said, you
won't find hate in them. That this was the most benevolent thing I've ever
experienced. HM. It was a feeling of benevolent Say loved us, HM,
if you will, And it was it was sobering WW to say the
least, and so additional aircraft launched. We Captain come down to combat were
cause we were gonna do it our big exercise. The reason, one of
the reasons why we went out there was to an air defense exercise, cause
we were the you know, the whole purpose of going over there as a
stract group is you know, to defend, and that d definitely involves air
defense, right, And we had done a I had planned a big,
huge exercise. It had been briefed it for months and planned it for months
literally. And the way stract group air defense works is if this is the
aircraft carrier, and this was a this direction is a notional threat. Right.
We put stations in the sky in the way we called them combat air
patrol stations. I don't know if I'm going off your camera view or not.
And everyone that launches knows where they're going already. It's secret, you
know, we don't we don't tell the newspaper about any of this, of
course, you know, it's classified. And so we I pulled the cap'n
down. He come down to combat Captain Smith and I said, hey,
sir, you know, we've been tracking these things for a week a week
now and at that time, we probably had track maybe s right around eighty
or so. These successive groups coming down and going through our operating area.
Would you think go ahead, I'm sorry. Would you think that you could
comfortably say that there were about eighty total or it could have been repetitiously counted.
No, there was a hundred total. You think there was about a
hundred? Yeah? Yeah. And the interesting thing is they all came down
from space right off cattle in it and they all disappeared at exactly the same
spot in the sky, about sixty miles north of go out of a Loupe
Island. And according to the fishermen that were interviewed by lou Alazano when he
went out there after I told him his story because apparently to them they were
their attitude was like, good guys, about someone came out here and paid
attention to this. We've been talking about this for a long, long long
time. Duh. Right, Apparently these things dropped. It went straight down
into the water. Really wow, I wouldn't die. I wasn't there.
I don't know if that's true, but that's what I'm hearing. Yeah,
And so anyway, uh, we suspended training and cause I convinced Capta Smith.
Hey, sir, I'm I'm gravely concerned here because if we launch and
I take control and I end up pitting one of these bad boys, someone's
gonna ask you, sir, and me why we were so damn and curious.
Hm, right, yeah, so he says, he looks at me.
He says, you're right, Singer Chief intercepting VID. The whole airside
was like, yeah, we I mean we we can't. We know you
don't do that on the ship, right, But I could see it in
every one's eyes cause everyone wanted to intercept these things really badly. Right,
yeah, so we think. So we took control a fast egal it was
Commander Favor, and drove him to the nearest object he gets in the same
vertical piece of sky. On a radar display, it looks like one there,
looks like one you can you you know, in the two D display,
it looks like one spot in the sky now like a merge. And
we don't look at raw radar. Everything has symbology assigned to it, like
friendly's one shape, Unknown's another shape, hustles another shape, and error has
one shape, surface has one shape, subsurface has another shape. Hm.
They may even have space shapes. I don't know. It's been in many,
many years. Anyway. Anyway, we take control and I was the
supervisor and my junior controller, who, by the way, is finally come
in public. I won't mention the name YEP, because out of respect for
them. And there's another officer on the ship's also come in public about this
finally good Yeah, that, and I'm not gonna reveal names here. I've
never I've never have, and I never will. Yeah. So anyway,
we take control of fast Egal, drive him to the closest object. He
gets in the merged plot position and bah right, then this object, whatever
the heck it was, drops from twenty thousand feet and that's that's his altitude.
I remember twenty eight for some reason, but I'm gonna we'll go with
his number, right cause he was right there and that thing drops from And
you gotta remember who this was. This guy was Billy Badass in a jet,
right, Yeah, yeah, he was very good at what he did.
This thing drop two in point seven eight seconds m and set station about
fifty feet above the water. So he goes chasing down. He leaves Alex
Dietrich cup high. He goes chasing it down and he goes down and down
and down, and this thing recognizes him. Yeah, and he does a
dogfight. You should have heard him on the radio, and he brought protocol.
We normally you don't hear this kind of thing on a tactical radio system,
right. He was like, oh my god, Oh my god,
I'm engaged, I'm engauged. Wow, you gotta remember who this is.
Yeah, top gun, badass, right, Bennan Combat you know, yeah,
the best of the best saying this on the radio, and we are
all just shocked. And according to him, and we saw it on radar,
it disappeared right in front of him. M those are his words.
Yeah, And you know what happened. I was I wasn't actually looking at
the radar, was up at the front table, looking at the large screen
to plays and working with the front table, trying to keep notes of this
whole thing. And I hear on the radio all of a sudden, the
air controller says, and he broke protocol to because we were so shocked,
he said, sir, you're not gonna believe this, but that thing is
now at your cap station. Let that sink in for a minute. Remember
how I described there's a several different cap stations, Like somehow it knew where
his assigned cap station was. Yeah, that's so bizarre, it is.
Yeah, And for years I struggled with that, and I finally realized it
was a message. They knew our intentions. H Yeah. And I finally
had the epiphany when we were standing on that rooftop in SoCal doing the movie.
Are tearing this guy, Caroline Corey, very beautiful person, respect her,
Like you can't believe we have all this gear from David Mason set up
you know, you name it. It was up there. What a brilliant
man that is too, by the way, just so you know, and
I mean there was stuff up there. I had no idea even what it
did. And does you know it had a lot that had to be explained
to me. Yeah, but I immediately got it, you know, even
though I couldn't operate it. And guess what happened. We didn't know that
anything was going to happen. We were just with her on a whim essentially,
but we you know, went there in the right time of year and
all that stuff based on my recommendation, and guess what happened? They showed
up. Yeah, yeah, I watched I watched the movie. Yeah.
Yeah, and I've had a radar. We yeah, we all kinds of
equipment. They recorded six hundred hours of data and there are still papers being
academic review process that are about to come out. I hope. And so
I figured out Matthew's I dog is these a quantum physicist out of New York
University, right, And he walks up to me and says, hey,
keV, I got a question for you. I said, what's that?
SI says, do you think that an intention has anything to do with this?
Hm? And I looked at him. I said, wow, yeah
it could. Yeah, that's why this thing went to the cap station,
isn't it. Hm? Yeah, it wanted to give me the message mm
or got I h I just said the word me, and I don't mean
it that way. I know what you mean. Yeah, yeah, but
yeah, I was in I was wearing those shoes, okay. Yeah.
And and I I if finally f figured out what that has to be.
And it makes a lot of sense if you think about this. Let me
run you through my logic on this. And this might be brand new for
a lot of people. I'm even telling physicists about this and it's the first
time they've ever heard it, if you can believe that. And we heard
Nick Pope yesterday talk about, uh, the Big Bang, and now there's
an alternate theory, the steady state. Right, But it doesn't matter according
to m my questions I'm about to ask you, it doesn't matter in any
case, in the case that it was a big big bang or in the
case of a steady state. I have a question, was it intentional or
unintentional? Hum? I don't know either, Yeah, and no one does,
right, So we have to assign it fifty to fifty statistically, right,
Mm. It's an unknown unknowable right, Well, it's fifty to fifty.
Someone's looking in So so let's go from there. Let's let's say,
yeah, it was intentional. Okay. If given that case, what happened
to the intender? M? Yeah? Did the intender choose to survive or
the end? Did the intender choose a cosmic suicide? M hmm. Let's
say the contender of the Big Bang chose survival in what form in a the
nine state or as an active state? HM. Let's say it's not or
it's let's say it's an active state. We know there's four fundamental forces in
the universe, right, We've got gravity, we've got strong nu uh nuclear,
we've got weak nuclear, and we have electromagnetism. I believe there's a
fifth and I've taken the liberty to call it intention. And all force carriers
have or all fundamental forces have forced carriers assigned to'em. So I'm calling
the force carry of intention intentatons HM. And I believe that UAP or UFO,
whatever you choose to call them, I prefer UFO. I think they
are engineered from the fundamental force of intention. HM. Doesn't that answer a
lot of quess H. It's very interesting because that these objects, these objects
were alive. They didn't need pilots on a nano scale. There they are
self. They were they were live machines, just like you and I.
There's a lot of people that, uh said, I've heard that believe that
over the years that I've turned to like that doctor Jack for Sarfati by the
way, or I'm saying his name our Fati. I mean sorry, I
think yeah, I know you mean, yeah, I've got I've got a
couple of questions, please go for it. Why I'm here, so I'm
on a panel once a week and I'm with four military guys. I'm the
only non military. Uh. And it's called the UAP Crossfire. And I
also prefer UFO. That's my show's name, podcast UFO. Right, But
anyway, Uh, the three other hosts are all ganging up on me,
saying that the attacks were are you know, our secret program, and that
they they did that just to test how the Navy would react to it.
And I say, I don't believe that. I don't believe that at all.
And so we argue about it all the time, not argue, you
know, we discuss it. It's a cross fire. But those three are
all saying it's our own secret military and yes, they do test this on
surprisingly test it. And I would say, well, couldn't that, you
know, cause an accident of some kind or people make sure you don't hear
what they said about that party have an answer I can't really recall, unfortunately,
but I mean I could look back. That's why they're wrong, because
there is no way in hell that we are going to do that to ourselves.
This this wasn't listed in the noticed error Mariners the no tames right,
it's supposed to be published. Right, someone should have briefed me, Hey,
Kevin or senior chief, we've got an additional exercise layered on top of
yours. Don't be alarmed, right, because you're exactly right. It presented
a safety of flight risk, and it ended up we canceled the exercise.
We pulled back into port without the check in the block. Oh wow,
I transferred and they had to go out and redo it. How much time
and effort and money did that cost you? Yeah? That's going and why
would they do that? Yeah? And you know what I have to tell
you. If that's the case and they put me through all this, I'm
taking them to court. Yeah I am. I'm going to quote you on
that one. I'm taking them to court. And you know I'm gonna do
with the money. I'm putting it back in the research. I'll take ten
percent because I'm married now, and you know there's been time that I couldn't
even pay my electric bill. Yeah, but that same kin. Yeah,
but I'm through that, you know. Yeah, I went through some pretty
hard times. Yeah. Yeah. So and another thing I wanted to tell
you. Do you recall when you were on my show. I'm going to
say about a year and a half or so. Now you got to understand
my memories was a race because I've had two Grandma seizers since all. Okay,
Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. Okay, Well, maybe maybe
you can recall this because you're on with Mick West and I and you explained
to him why the video of the tic TAC was not a jet exhaust and
how it would be it would have been identified as such in from David fravor
he would have been able to identify I think it was. Yeah, anyway,
he if just in case you don't recall, Mick West said, oh,
okay, now I get it. I understand. You know he's basically
saying, yeah, he was basically saying he was wrong. But I just
wanted to tell you. A week later he was on the news and still
going with the same idea. In other words, God bless him. You
know, you know what we need voices like his. I know it's right.
I keep us all sober on this. It's very easy to get carried
away with this thing and yeah and blow it out of proportion. So God
bless people like Nick. Yeah, yeah, really truly, I really mean
that. Okay, I think people like that keep us all balanced. Yeah,
yeah, yep, and maybe he knows that too, huh yeah,
maybe that's why he's doing it. Well, Uh, I think it's probably
time we are to wrap it out with getting a little busy. But thank
you. Wait, just thank you so much and I appreciate and it's so
great to see you again. And uh we can follow this up at a
different place in time. I'm gonna be here. I'm gonna be here t
tomorrow, okay, okay, all right, we'll talk a great thank you.
Well, we never followed it up, but that was the interview I
had in the Ozark Mountain UFO conference with Kevin Day and uh so don't forget
come back on Monday. I have Brandon Fugel on just the day before the
release of Histories fifth season of The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. So he'll be
coming an eight pm Brandon Fugel Monday. Next week we have Ron Jenics believe
that's the name. Yes, Ron Janics up and thank you all for jumping
over to this show from the other one and all that, and we'll again
we'll be back next week live. Thank you so much, and remember to
keep your eyes to the sky.