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Regulators. So I think the key
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It's important for us to have a
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referee in a sports game or all
sports games, and that the games are

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better for it to ensure that those
you know, the players, pay the

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rules play fairly. I think it
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regularator regulator, which you can think
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companies take actions that are safe and
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Did you tell them that AI has
a double edged sword? Yes, And

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what did you mean by that?
Well, what did the metaphor? Yeah?

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I mean I mean well, if
you have a sword with two sides,

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when you're in one side can get
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something with the other side. What
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I think it more important to make
sure your hilt is also you have a

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hilt, not a shop thing.
Yea. How do you think they how

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do you think they took the message
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I think it was. It was. It was very civilized discussion, actually

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among some of the smartest people in
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Senator Schumer a great service here,
humanity here along with sport of the rest

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of the Senate, and I think
we'll I think something good will come of

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this this. I think this meeting
may goun on history as being very important

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for the future of civilization. Do
you think some legislation is going to come

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out of this? Probably? I'm
not sure what the timeframe of that is,

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but you know, the legislative process
is not a swift one. But

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I think it's I think this will
the things will go in the right direction

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generally. Schumer or Leader Schimer did
ask everyone to raise their hands in the

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room to see if they were in
favor of AI regulation, and I believe

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almost everyone did. Yeah, so
that's a good sign. Do you think

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any of the text CEOs left and
change their minds? Do you think they

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were changed by anything they hurt from
the Senate side? Well, I can't

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read their mind but judgment by the
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asked if they if they believed that
some regulation is in order. I think

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the general I think it's clear that
there's a strong consensus, a woman of

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woman consensus that there should be some
AI regulation, that it would be in

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the best interests of the people to
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see something happen. I don't know
on what timeframe or exactly how it will

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manifest itself. But the questions what
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know. I mean, there's there's
clearly we've created regulatory agencies before and actually

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just recently. Just believing me the
point that, you know, while our

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regulatory agencies are not perfect, and
I deal with regulators on a very frequent

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basis with the automotive, you know, communications to starlink and then FA with

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with with rockets. So I've had
transpantent interaction with regulators for you know,

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a couple of decades at least,
And while regulators are not perfect, there's

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no regulatory agency that I'm aware of
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the federal level at least that that
we should delete. Yeah, so I

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think I or something like that,
I don't know what exactly, Perhaps perhaps

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an apartment of AI. Probably,
let's say, I think the probability of

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there being some sort of a regulatory
agency that stands on its own, similar

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to the FAO FCC is likely at
some point, you think, sample I

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think so. Now, the reason
that I've been such an advocate for AI

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safety in advance of sort of anything
terrible happening is that I think the consequences

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of AI going wrong are our sphere. So we have to be proactive rather

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than reactive in the past. If
he takes a and I'm being somewhat late

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for speaking of regulators, I'm a
little late for the FA I'm meeting with

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the doone hold you up? I'm
sure, but yeah, if you take

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the example of say seat belts,
seat belts were opposed by the auto industry

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for a very long time, even
though the data was very clear that they're

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safe, that they radically improve deaths
and injuries. So you know, we

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we don't want to be in that
situation where we're fighting regulations even though you

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know there's a safety thing. We
can't wait for millions of people to die

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in auto accidents, as you know, like, and it's important to just

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elevate the question here. Question is
is really one of civilizational risk. So

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just it's it's not like one group
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another. It's like, hey,
this is something that's potentially risky for all

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humans everywhere, It's very important to
to understand that is there an equivalent of

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really, Congress, it's sufficiently ready
to regulate a no, no, no

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no. The sequence of events will
not be jumping in at the deep end

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and making rules, but it starts
with and with insight. In fact,

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this is actually how all of the
regulatory bodies have been formed. Believe.

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As you start with a group form
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then you have proposed rulemaking, You'll
get some objections from industry or whatever,

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and then ultimately you get sort of
consensus on rolemaking. That rulemaking then becomes

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a law regulation. What's resedge to
an ordinary person? Sperment actually, thank

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you. Another by Mark Zuckerberg