And we're back. So this comes from Daniel Rpka. He's the guy that
broke the Red One. So either this has been the theory, either he
has a new source he's getting a lot of good scoops, or what Brent
says is he got one right and he's just cashing and making a lot of
scoops. But we'll find out in the next few years. So this kind
of tracks a little bit as far as they were meeting with writers a couple
of months ago and now there seems to be some details. So the three
biggest points are that they're trying to much like Spider Man, they want it
to be different than the other X Men ones, right, they want to
go different route. So the at least working ideas that the main character would
likely be a female. I'm imagining Geene Gray in my mind. I think
they would probably go that route and maybe not. Maybe it could be Road,
maybe it could be Jubilee Hill. I don't know, but that's the
idea. And I know if people get mad. It's like all the X
Men movies were, like there was Hugh Jackman and Patrick Sister who like or
James McAvoy like, It's always like there's not been a malee and something have
gone past, but the three big things were right now it seems to be
the of course it's gonna be a bunch of people in the team, but
it'd be a female lead. Magneto is not slotted to be in the first
one at all, not as a hero villain, just not at all.
And they're eyeing mister Sinister to be the main villain for the first go round.
I don't know if that means if you'd be killed off or what the
deal is. But you can't kill Sinister. He'll turn into some sand on
the beach, like you always come back, you know, whatever sounds he
makes, but you know, whenever he gets hit by Scott's beams, it's
hard. It's we talked about this in one of the retro It's like it's
so hard to emulate his voice because whatever the modulation they have in that,
at least in the animated series, really hard to replicate, even with Taylor's
magic that he has on the keyboard. Yeah, so what if you you
know, you're in the pitch room they're talking about this stuff. You know,
maybe maybe stuff like X Men's getting We talked about this when those writers
were like they're announcer looking for writers, and maybe they're starting to push that
a little bit faster because maybe they're kind of like, hey, we got
to get some more big hitters in here. Again, I still feel like
they shouldn't just abandon like Sam and stuff like I feel like they should have
been pushing some of the character as they have now, as like hey we
got cool Avengers, but now I feel like, I don't know, there's
a whole issue. But they sit you down to and they say, you
know, we're gonna have a female main character, mag Neil's gonna take a
little break for a bit. Obviously, we want to kind of be like
Homecoming where it's gonna be. We want to tackle stuff that hasn't happened.
Alas mister Sinister as a villain as well, because that's one that never got
the live action treatment. John Hamm was cast him at one point, but
the movie never happened, so what he was supposed to be in Gambit?
So what do you think about that kind of just initial working idea that's me
what they're working with or kind of giving writers of like, hey, would
these topics interest you in writing a movie? Yeah, I mean, I
love having Sinister in there. That's really fun, and that makes me think
that, you know, Gene would make sense as a as a lead for
that, just knowing that narrative, and of course my my knowledge on Sinister
is strictly X Men animated, but he appears not all. They do a
pretty good job and the origins of him being obsessed with the Summer, the
scummers, mister scummers, the Summers. That's I feel like that's more of
a DC villain though, mister scummers. That's the kind of deep cut character
that James Gunn would would pull out of the bag. That's who Nathan Fielder
would play, mister scummers. You know, I feel like Nathan Fielder has
all over James Gunn radar, you know, like I feel like that's I
don't think he'll do it. I don't think Nathan field or whatever. I
don't think. Yeah, do you think he could be like in the Suicide
Squad where James Gunn had a bunch of deal and they died off in that
first scene. I can see something like that. Maybe. No, I
don't. I don't think. I do think it wants to being cool,
weird, things that or his own things. Okay, that's my I don't
know him, but that's my Sure, that's my I agree with you on
Nathan vill. I just like Gun, that's the type of guy want like,
oh, I want him to play some sort of weirdo in like one
of my movies, and oh yeah, Gun would want it absolutely. Yeah,
you can't always get what you want though, uh, going back to
it, so obviously, Yeah, sinister in the gene connection makes a lot
of sense. I will say though from my experience, like, I've never
fallen in love with any Jean Gray adaptation. It's a character that I I
don't know why, and I guess I gotta read some certain compic runs,
but it's just a character that I find it hard to put my chips behind
that as being the leading character, just because I just feel like she's not
super interesting and you know, dark Phoenix stuff, you can get some interesting
stuff going on, not that, not that movie, but that storyline.
There's definitely a lot of potential there. I think with the right casting,
you know, throwing on a stone in there, let's go, Uh,
you can make it happen. But Nathan, He'll She'll get Nathan in but
I think I would be much more excited for Storm or Rogue to be that
that leading in that leading role. I don't know how that ties into Sinister,
but of course it's a whole team thing, so you could, like
that could be. The thing is that Gene gets captured and that's why she's
not really like a big character in the movie, is because she's captured by
Sinister, which is like the reason why the X Men are to go after
him, that kind of thing. But but uh, yeah, I guess
Rogue because even in what is the X Men one and two, she's kind
of a three Well not yet, No, she's not really in that one
very much, right, Yeah, So like and one and two, you
know, like you'd say she's lead, but she's definitely a I guess she's
more of a plaud device. Even it's been a bit since I ever re
watched those one, but she's a crucial character, I think, especially the
first one. She's she's all mcguffin the first one, right, because needs
her for powers and stuff. So in the second one she's around quite a
bit so, and then I think Storm kind of speaks for herself. I
think there's so much potential there in terms of what you want to do with
that character, and that one might make more sense, is like she's just
the leader of the X Men boom end of story. I don't know how
you swing a rogue as the lead character, but obviously you could make it
happen. I just would need to need to see it on the screen before
I could believe it. But I think Storm you don't even need to talk
about, So yeah, that could easily happen. And yeah, really cool
too. Yeah, I think Rogue you build up. I think Rogue if
she's in there, one are kind of like the plucky underdog, you know,
kind of like what she is in the show a bit where it's like
she's she's great, but I mean so so much more like the shows to
some personal stuff going on, so she can't be the most dependable there sometimes
or plus like gamuts around and stuff. So yeah, one day we'll get
some calm books. So yeah, Gene's a great character. Obviously my character
might oter is named after her, and she's she is one of the best
X Men, but the movies have definitely the original trigity. She was just
served to kind of be there for. Wolverine is some eye candy, you
know, which is not. There's some true for that, but some not
to what you're saying. The two questions here from RJ is saying that I
guess it would be like the first roster. My only issue with that one
people bring up a Jean Scott, Beasts, Angel and Iceman. I don't
think there's a world where they have just one female and the team to go
around. I think they would spread it out, So I think that I
feel like the best way, in my opinion, is a three and three.
I think it's three guys, three girls, or just even just like
non you know, binary people like I just don't think it's gonna be five
guys and a girl. I just I don't think they'll want to do that.
Maybe that's why it's female led, because it's like, oh, we
just got Gene, you know, so I don't know about that, and
I just it's curious because like I'm curious, and RJ's the other question of
like will Wolverine be on the team all, I don't think so. And
to me, it's like if these reports are they want to be different than
the other. When we talked about that before with Spider Man, that's why
we didn't get Goblin or doc Ock or Uncle Ben. So I think,
like you look at that original team Jean Scott Bee's angel iceman iceman on Beasts,
especially Beast was just in the Marvel's credit seeing like, I think those
are characters will stay away from actually because I think they'll feel like, oh,
they've already been done, Like let's give Beasts to send off here.
I think Gene and Scott kind of work because I think with psychlo If Sinister
is the villain, Scott's in there guaranteed because they're just so tied together.
He's always obsessed with that bloodline. And I feel like that's a really good
way to put Scott and Gene is like lead one and lead to finally,
because it's a storyline about maybe and even then you can flip it where maybe
Scott's like the damsel in distress where he's the one that gets kidnapped and it's
Gene and the team going to get him. Right. I also feel like
I don't think they've ever nailed those two live auctions. I think there's a
big opportunity to finally make it work and do it better than before. Of
course, naturally, there'sn't risk involved, but yeah, I feel like the
opposite could happen too. Or if you cast wull Reens whoever and they don't
live up to Hugh Jackman or something, if they do that going forward,
maybe that's maybe that's not good either. But I think there's so much potential
there with the Scott in particular. Yes, so I think Jean's been maybe
done better than Scott has. But once again, I didn't do that retro
with you guys, so I'm not as fresh, like a minor degree,
but yeah, Scott's a nothing. So I agree with you because that's where
like Geene and Scott. Of course we're all in those but like you said,
they weren't like big factors. Really there was the guy was to be
a obstacles for Wolverine and the girls. There to be a love interest,
right like I think mister Sinisters. The villain brings them up to be main
characters and then it's focused on them, even someone like angel I could see
Iceman, I don't think so. And then the Rogan gambit of it all.
I definitely I feel like that's a smart way to go. I'm just
very curious how they do, how they do Gambit nowadays. I'm not saying
Gambit's like a He's not a I just think you make him like a Dufest
jokes or like Chris Pratt type. I feel like that's what you do.
You don't do any of the other there's anything problematic with him, But I
don't know. I just really he's a little Some of the things he say
is a little prob. But at the same time, I guess it doesn't
really matter. They would just change it because like they had that character they
introduced Harry Styles with He's a character that had like way way worse history than
Gambut as far as like using his powers for like like maybe sexual assault,
and they kind of re routed in the like the future but or in the
present. But I think you still you still need him to be machiesmo.
I've always said that Gambut to me, should be a young Brad pit Like
a young Brad Pitt. That's what we're looking for with Gambit, and you
just take I think that's perfect, Like, especially with the roster we're talking
about. I think that's the kind of levity you need, not just to
like fit that Marvel mcu quota, you know, check that box of making
sure it's not too serious. You always have some equips in there, but
you gotta have someone lighthearted on the team, and I think he could be
a good one for that. But yeah, in the future, if you
want to go deeper on the emotional depths, I think you can still go
there too. I was supera Mike could he probably be great, And especially
because Chris prep is on Earth or star Lord is, because yeah, they
do get I think in the it was I got married, right, I
think they get did Kitty Pride and star Lord that'd be great if you kind
of link them up because oh yeah star Wars on Earth right now, he's
chilling. Yeah, was not someone that was done with their reboot right,
No, she never made it, I guess because she was like a child
and stuff. But like, it's funny our roster classic because it's on the
brain. We kind of pitched like, Okay, you got Storm, Jean
Gray, Rogue, and Gambit. If you got one more, who would
you put on that? And it's not Wolverine because yeah, we're pretty we're
pretty ninety so, but I like that roster because I like the because I
also think Jean Scott Roman Gambit. They are romantically linked, but they're very
different type of romances. It's not too samesy, you know. It's like,
who would you put on there? You got Storm, let's say she's
the leader right now, who's your sixth draft pick? And I'll say it
for fun, not Beast either, because Beast is like, yeah, I
feel like that's easy, right, because I got Kelsey Grammer and they might
not do him. Is there somebody? Is it Kitty Pride? Is there
somebody like that? Right? Only might be I think it might be Kitty
Pride for me. Actually, yeah, I am down for another attempt at
at Jubleek. She was like, he was very sparing that whatever movie.
I can't even remember all these X Men movie names, anypow clips. Yeah,
there you go. So i'd be I'd be down to see that too.
Uh yeah, but I think Kitty probably would be my maybe number one?
And yeah, like who else? Because I got lost this. I'm
kind of fine with Colossus existing in like the Deadpool side and like, yes,
go ahead with that kind of version. So if you brought if you
brought Kitty Pride, you could bring Class because they also have a romantic link
too, So you could the whole X movie is just nothing but couples,
you know, Is that what you're gonna That's what I was gonna say.
Yeah, night. I think it's like he was only in that one movie,
right in X two. That's it. That's the only ever one too.
Oh sorry, they did bring him back in the the first class there
I forgot, but I feel like he was very like minor, Like I
feel like it wasn't a big deal that Nightcrawler was around. They can't so
I feel like Nightcrawler, like you make him coolly sells toys like, I
just feel like he's someone fun on there. I think honestly, with his
religious aspects, you could even dive that a bit more so. And if
you go out rogue so they didn't do in the movies, they could do
here would do that in the first movie. That would be a revealed down
the road with mystique. Yeah, there you go. That's a good thing.
Yeah, so I like that. Whether it's Kiddy or niccron plus,
you could you could do sem But I liked one of those two as the
as the sixth member, and I think that's good and I guarantee you too.
They're just gonna be a member that we have like completely left field.
Like I've always been a big war path guy. I'd love to have Warpath
in. Okay, Yeah, he was in a Days of Future Past.
Yeah, he gets killed off like a bunch because he's just one of the
like the protector of the realm sort of guys and stuff. Yeah, it
gets messed up by those morphine creatures or whatever. Yeah. And I feel
like, because he didn't mention it, you're you aren't are But are you
not surprised about uh maybe Magneto taking a seat for a bit. Yeah.
I think exactly what you said about looking at the Spider Man villains and the
way they chose to go that, with that direction of not going with those
classics and instead bring in some other characters. And obviously we've done that now
with No Way Home. We obviously went back to those places. But I
think that's a good thing to do. I think start with some fresh characters,
characters we haven't seen before. You know, there's a lot more juice
to be squeezed in those villains. And I think X Men, especially obviously
on off the animated show x Men, is just like just like Spider Man,
in that way, there are a ton of great villains to pull from,
and so I don't think you need to go for Magneto. So I
think that's a good choice. Of course, I wouldn't be mad the opposite
way around, but I'm okay with the decision. But your a big Magneto
head. It doesn't bother you either though. I'm guessing no, because it's
just like, it's not like the Spider Man thing where it's like, oh,
I really want Goblin, all right, Like I dislike that they always
were skirted around Uncle Ben. It's like Magneto was in so many projects,
you know. I know people can say, oh, we got two Uncle
Ben's. I just feel like there's something different there. But I feel like
with Magneto and we got two great versions like eMac Count and Fast Spender.
I feel like Xavier. I feel like Exavier is pretty vital to the team.
But hey, even if they came and said we want to do something
different and maybe Xavier put this team together and he's the classic, like he's
missing in this universe. I think some people would be really upset if Exavier
wasn't the teacher. I'd be fine. I'm not saying that's what I want.
But I'd be fine right now because we've got so many versions, especially
that First Class era. Those two are the leads with each film. I
know, I guess Jennifer Lawrence wasn't there, but still I still think like
macavoy and fast been Er, those were the two guys leading that charge.
So I'm fine if they take a break. Plus they brought Exavier back,
I think they'll probably be bring McKellen back, you know, like we keep
getting like like with Deadpool and Hugh Jackman, like little sprinkles of them.
So even if it's just Magneto, like yeah, he's my favorite Marvelville.
But I think it's fine, and I think it is tough. People made
the joke of like, oh, a film with lots of great points,
that it's obsessed with net all again because it's kill Monger. And that's where
it's just like it is tough because I always said that when we had Black
Panther, like, oh, this is their Magneto, and then they got
the rights, it's like, oh shit, like they kind of they like
that is the Magneto story. Like what kill Mongers is right, It's like
he feels like it's people are as a press and he's gonna use his power
to strike back. And that's so I feel like a longer break. And
there's Omega Red, there's we've said this before, like I know Kirkham would
be happy, but like Mojo Vision, like there's so many cool X Men
films, Yeah there's and even like Apocalypse. I think you can get like
a real talk about like another big bad. You can really build that up
again to be something like Magneto. I think he's a card that you can
pull at any point, and people are gonna be there for Magneto. I
think it's fine to sit him out. We got so many movies of Magneto.
It's it's okay, we're Spider Man. It's we got to foe and
that was it. So it's like, well, I want another goblin,
Like I don't count Dane de han an amazing in spier Man to you the
same thing with Doc Hawk. That's what will make complaints of Like I do
want to see new villains, but if they're just off the table, that
kind of sucks. So with Magneto though, we saw him several times,
so we're we're okay. Do you think what is your chance that within the
next fifteen years. Let's say there's there's no reboot of MCU. It's going
strong, you know, has it been flows but they come back? Yeah,
what do you think the chance is that there's ever just like a Savage
Line movie X Men Savage Line, where like it's not like some little sequence
in Multiverse of Badness where you saw it for like two frames, but it's
like, you know, ninety percent of the movie is in the Savage Line,
the same movie. It's just the Charles Xavier and Magnus storyline. You
get sore On in there, you get Kazar and Zabu and all those all
Zabu and zor On. Yeah, a saur On and yeah. Yeah.
So if this was Marvel Liance, I would say fiction because I don't think
a whole movie would take place there. I think if the Disney Plus shows
were popping off, that's prime for Disney Plus series, just Savage Lands,
like oh perfect, so many episodes. But I think Savage Line will be
a huge location at some point. But I don't think it'll be ever.
The X Men are stuck here, you know, so like cause I think
even Sinister could be like hiding the Savage Lance like he was in the show.
Right, So when you say you think it's gonna be a huge location,
what do you mean by not like that, where like it would be
Sinisters hanging out at Savage Line and the whole third act takes plight place on
Savage Land. Yeah. Yeah, like a big set piece. I kind
of like Titan was and in Finny Were where they fought that. It was
like something like that where when you're going you're gonna see like Savage Land on
screen and the fanboys and girls and everyone's, Oh, they're going to the
Savage Land. We know what that is? A man, I think they
could they could do something where I'm gonna grab Xavier as my example character here
with Xavier at the end of the X Men movie, Uh, I know,
Let's say they throw some crazy portal out Sinister to like knock him into
another realm. Somehow Xavier gets like, you know, Sinister throws out one
of his weird arm things, grabs him, pulls him in. He does
like some twisty thing. Post credit scene, Xavier wakes up, Yeah,
just sees the t Rex and then like fades to fades to black. And
that's like the teaser of oh, I thought, I'll do you one better,
which I think you'd get that. And then in the distance you get
a hello, old friend, and that's where Magnetio has been this whole thing
too, right, A pterodactyl, Yeah, jacked and gray hair. Yeah.
I think that's what you can say. Is Taylor just faints in the
theater. He's played by Sam Neil. You know, he's just oh my
god, Yeah, Taylor faint, wake up and faint again. No,
I think McNeil's stuck in savage land. That'd be good explanation where he is.
You know, he's like, oh, he's just been stuck his voice?
Is it who's Magneto voice? Is it new actor or one of the
classmates. It has to be a new act I think this would be the
new one. And who knows who they get now in fifteen years, could
be anybody, could be true, can't be you or me? I guess
we're not Jewish, So oh does that have to be? I think so?
He well his origins where the concentration can't remember his parents, But do
you think they I don't know, haven't we? Yeah? It's tough,
right, But at the same time, with the X Men, not having
existed thus far, We've all always speculated, like, oh, maybe a
snap created yeah, because it's tough because I always get the point of people
being like, but that's like a big character. I just feel like that's
a big part of his character than the or like other than that flashback.
I feel like I've never ye, I never think about that as Magneto,
but I guess, yeah, it's it's Thetis right, it's the litany of
a start. The last couple there are, Jay said, Rogue star off
as a villain. I could see that, but because Tom the whole stealing
Captain Marvel's powers, I love that. I would love that, but I've
always said I don't think it'd be a villain. I think it would just
be like the Avengers get a situation where they're fighting the X Men, because
it's like, oh, they don't know who's who, and then Rogue does.
I think I don't know if there's enough time. Maybe if the Marvels
was bigger, because imagine that if the Marvel's bigger, we got Captain Marble
three in the villain when the villain's Rogue, that'd be so cool. But
I think with the box office, the Marvel stuff is like it'll be around,
but not as much. And then Super Mike says Bishops will get some
attention. I agree. I think you just gotta you gotta wait on him
for a bit. They already did Days of Future Pass. I think they
want to and I think they're gonna stay clear of time travel multiverse for a
bit as well too. After we get through the multiverse saga, I think
they're gonna really not touch that for yeah, I think we go ground level
with XP no cosmic stuff, no time travel, uh, interdimensional multiverses.
Well, speaking of ground level, another rumor that came up this week was
some elements of Spider Man four. So Spiderman for has some roomors going around
that they're the plan is it's still gonna be you know, grounded, more
New York City based. It's been described as a civil war with street level
heroes and the rumored lineup right now, this is all rumor, but the
rumored lineup in this plot is obviously Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Echo, Kate
Bishop, and the Punisher. I think there's maybe one more, but most
of the popular street level characters Kate Bush Up, Echo, stuff like that.
That's been the rumor, So I don't. I don't know whose they
are, those characters on the same team or that's I don't know, And
that's why I don't. That's why I don't buy, like I guess with
the Civil because no matter what the Civil War, it's definitely Spiderman on one
side and then punishing some other people because Punisher is definitely on the same side
of Spider Man. Is is that the thing where it's like, let's say
Kingpin and somebody's a villain and there's like a group of heroes like Punisher there
like let's just kill these people, and Spider Man the good team and Daredevil
being like, let's do this like the way of justice, you know,
because like I could see Jessica Jones being on the kill side, right she
killed kill, kill Grave and stuff. So maybe that's what it is where
and yeah, there's no specification of who was there. It was just these
are characters that are being talked about right now, Echo and Punisher and Jessica
Jones. Matt also been talked about a bunch, But what do you what
do you think about that? As far as like we're fans of the Spider
Man Animated series and a lot of those crossovers. Would you be down for
some sort of conflict between the street heroes of New York in a Spider Man
movie? Ah? Would I be down for that? Hmm? I just
feel like I feel like we have so much ground to cover in this next
Spider Man movie in terms of him kind of being like a blank slate character
going into it all these connections. I don't know, Man, you're saying
Daredeviler is saying, Jessica Jones, Punisher, you speak your whisper in the
Sweet Nothing's like I I do want it. I don't know. I gotta
think about it where I have to see maybe the pitch for the full thing.
The part that throws me off about this is the Kate Bishop one though,
because I just feel like this seems too soon after the setup of like
the cap of the the Marvel's post credit scene for her to then be here.
True, she's just killing time in New York when Kamala con is trying
to round up the heroes, right, that could be it. Kamala is
at a different universe trying to I'm trying to think, is there another like
Marvel character like that who was in like two kind of separate storylines just kind
of randomly the same. Like, I don't know, I don't really see
the connection between the Scar that Scar who he surprised Scar I mentioned without Taylor
having to be on the episode. Yeah, now I just bring them all
the time, like technically Miss Marvels, cause she'd have shown them in the
movie like she was bouncing your teen like I guess not. But like I
mean, she lives in New York, I think still who knows where she
those at this point? Yeah, give me, please give me a scene
of the Mom Villani and John Berth. I want to see that conversation between
the Punisher and Miss Marlins. What do they talk about? Like what like
birthell would get lots of good comedy gold like he he's so good that I
trust, I trust it. But yeah, I don't know. There there's
something about this that seems like it's not gonna be the case for me.
I don't I guess if I had to pin, Like the Kate Bishop and
the Jessica Jones part are the things that send out the most to me as
not really lining up for whatever reason, because obviously you got the connection between
Like, but I don't think. I don't see how you leap frog that
and a Spider Man though, that seems like too much for me, Like
I feel like if you want a character like that, like a she Hull
cannot like a super strong She's not personality wise like Jessica. But I feel
like that makes more sense in the mcy u verse when you get Daredvil because
of the Sield connection there, and that's like, where what else is she
all gonna do? She's not New York though, right, She's in Los
Angeles. I know what's my leap. I'm sure she can jump that.
That's true pretty quick. Maybe if it's like a serious issue like that,
they don't want she All, who's gonna be a bit kind of Quippi to
be around, like I know Spider Man, I guess. But like all
these other characters we listed other than Kate Bishop are serious, right, like
Echo Punisher, Jessica Jones. Matt can be a little Quippi, but he's
more serious side, So I think that's maybe it is just the tone saying
things like why Kamala wouldn't be around? And I don't know it, I'm
I really want like it's a you know, it's a like what is it
the first world problem? But I I do really want some like soume confirmation,
like what is happening with this movie? Because we just keep hearing like
obviously at least we keep hearing Daredevil come up. So I'm happy about that.
And it's kind of like the Wolverine thing where honestly, if I got
Daredevil in it, that's really all I would need. I wouldn't need like
I don't get me wrong, I wouldn't turn these down, but I would
just I just really want Daredevil and Spider Man, and I want those two
to be together for a movie and go from there and Kingpinn with some other
big villain. Great, that's all I need. But I do get And
this is what I was talking about today, because that's been the big h
you know, because you're on social media with the big like complaint against this
has just been like, oh, why can't they just make a Spider Man
movie? You know, it's just like as usual. It's like a business
agreement, and Sony signed on this agreement wanting MSU characters. You know.
It's just like so I never get why people have not really understood that.
And I get that you want to sol a Peter movie, but it's like
you have five of those already. That's not Tom Holme regardless. Sure,
but and even to me in Home Coming Afar from Home, Fury and Stark
are in them, but they're in them for such a small amount, like
no Way Home I could give you, but that to me is just never
a complaint, Like and I would get why Sony Kiss. I don't think
any of those characters we listed, Daredevil, Jessica, Jones, pun Ser,
they're as big as Iron Man by themselves, but all together as a
package. I think that's really cool and really tempting for them to be like,
hey, we don't have a big, a tier character, but five
characters here really interesting. I just don't probably don't buys the Civil War part
because I just don't think it's not like the movie Civil War we had all
these phases that made sense throwing all these characters in here, like oh,
there's a conflict that just doesn't That just doesn't make sense to me, Like
you need a lot of build up to get there. In my opinion,
I also feel like that what we maybe want and maybe what would be best
for the character would be a small scale Peter movie where he's you know,
finding himself again and there's like one villain and that's probably like the safest bet
in terms of like this will be a good movie, but like, what
are you gonna do. You're gonna have two movies that will save equivalent like
threat level and whatnot, and then you're gonna go to this thing where there's
multi versus up. They bring about Toby and Garfield and they had all these
like your favorite Spider Man villains, and then what the next movie after that
is just gonna be like, oh yeah, we took like seven steps back
and it's just like a boring, old simple movie. Of course, me
and you, Travis and the people in our school we want that, but
I don't think Marvel's not gonna look at it that way. Even something like
Captain America. Look at that like how they ratchet that up the intensity that
to like building up to Civil War, and that looks like they're gonna make
Captain America four even though it's you know, slight difference. It's a new
cap character, but still like they're gonna bring a bunch of other characters.
Thor had a slimmer thing where smaller scale ish the first two. Then you
go to Ragon Rock and you start introducing all these other side characters and then
like thor Love and thunder throws Guardians in there. You know, like that
wasn't very meaningful, but it was still like, Okay, we got to
ratchet up the intensity. How many characters are in here? And I just
feel like you can't really. I think I think you could go backwards.
But I think from the Marvel perspective, I think from a marketing perspective,
from the Sony's you know, they're getting their grubby little fingers in there.
I don't think they look at it and think, oh yeah, let's go
back to just some simple movie. And so even then, like I think,
compared to the big characters in No Way Home, I don't think these
characters even sem a chance in terms of like big popular hype levels. I
mean, you got the Netflix fans in there, I guess, but even
that's been so many years since those shows were happening, So it definitely doesn't
feel like as big as No Way Home. But it feels like an attempt
towards that at least. Well that's always been my issue, like not that
like same thing, he said, not that I have an issue with it,
but when people said, oh, you know, it'd just be Daredevil.
I want that. But does Sony view Charlie Cox is Daredevil as big
as you know, Robert Downey, Sam Jackson and Bendi Combat Absolutely not even
to me, Daredevil and Kington as a package. Not. So that's why
I say, at least if it's like six or seven characters, maybe they
look at that the same thing as like, Okay, it's a ground level
thing. But if it is, if I could see Figgy and Team,
if they keep pitching it to Sony like this is the next Civil War,
maybe that's how they could sell. And hell, who knows. Maybe whatever
we do, maybe that's where we do get a Tom Hardy in there,
right, Like that could be another thing where oh we'll throw in one of
these Sony things. It's like you got burnth like cause like burnth All's a
good star and like Hayley Steinfield's a big enough star, and I think the
other ones have like certain levels. But I agree with you. That's always
my fears. I want them to go back to basics, and I think
that's what they need. By do they few they can do? After no
way home. I don't know. I hope they do. I I'd love
that because I think like, as long as it's quality that that'll that'll come.
Maybe it won't be your billion dollar earner, but I still think he's
gonna be in all these Avengers movies. That's where you can get your spider
action. But of course it's a Sony movie, right, so they also
don't want to be like save the billion dollar movie for like Marvel Studio stuff.
We also want to be the billion dollar movie. And yeah, and
you know, like there's a good chance that Zendea is not in this next
movie either. She's a she's a big deal these days too, right,
she'll be in You're also you think you think she'll have a big role in
it. They'll they'll fork over tons of money to make sure. I think
so. I think that's why story wise they reconnect. I thought that like
doesn't take away from all you think. They just don't care about the story
implications. They just got to do it because she's ind I think you get
halfway through, like the first half of the movie is like, oh,
like you seem familiar, and then like by the end of the movie,
there together they're kissing. I think it's I think it reminds me were just
some X Men. It reminds me a lot of Jennifer Lawrence's Mystique, where
a mystique. Those movies were like why is Mystique such a big main character?
Why she on the X Men team? But it was like Jennifer Lawrence
like blew up in between those movies. And I think Zendia is the same
thing, where they will find a reason some vilam will kidnap her or something
like. I think Zendia will one hundred percent be in Spider Man four and
like a supporting character, I think they will have her in there. I
guess I'm I'm thinking about the the closest equivalent in the MCU is like star
Lord and Gomora, and obviously More is in Guardians three just as much as
she isn't any other one. But they didn't do the thing that a lot
of us thought they would have, Like they just make her and star Lord
get together again and there's some big, happy family, And I mean,
who even knows what the future of Guardians is, of course with the James
Gunn situation of it, but I don't know, Like they didn't do it
there. They didn't just get them back together. She's not Sandea though,
you know, biggest, biggest shar dude. Zoe's Aldana though, that's like
the original Zendia, Zendias and Sodana. That's hard. She's a billion dollar
movie maker right there. She has more billion dollar movies than Zendeia than anyone
else. Majority of people in the world do not know she. Yes,
she's always wearing green skin or like blue cgi, but still she's huge.
Yeah, I guess I just don't think she's in demand like Zendia. You
know, she's not leading franchises like hers. I think I think this is
where though. And I also just don't think they're gonna do Gwen. I
don't think they're gonna do black Cat. I don't think they're gonna do like,
what's another love interest out there? It's even just Felicia Hardy. I
think they're gonna just stick with MJ and it's not something I want. But
I think with Zendia and plus they're dating in real life too, so I
think that's the way. Like Tom keeps doing this thing, I think that
helps. I don't know if it helps. I think it helps because I
think Tom keeps doing the singers like, I don't know what, Like,
I want to come back, but I'm not too sure how much you'll do
it. I think if they get them both on, it's like, uh,
oh, well we're doing it together, right, so like where we
felt love and stuff, So I think I think you pull the Zendaya and
you know, I feel like day at some point her career is just gonna
stop doing these big blockbuster things and just go win like five oscars in a
row or something. I think she'll go do that, but I don't know
if she's doing that yet, because I think, you know, do what's
happening, like I think right now is like her Blockbuster era. Yeah,
she's gonna do it all. And then Euphoria is like her acting and the
era. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Well, well we'll see.
I hope we get some details on this soon because we're gonna get all
those Sony movies next year, so I hope after that we start to learn
something because it's been pretty quiet. We don't even have we don't even know
if we have a director of respirding for because I don't know if John Watson
is coming back, because that was the other room that they were meeting with,
Like, they want Wats to come back, but there's other people.
So remind me. Did he do one, two and three? One two
and three? Yeah, yeah, all three. So all right, we'll
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