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And we're back. So this comes
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broke the Red One. So either
this has been the theory, either he

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has a new source he's getting a
lot of good scoops, or what Brent

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says is he got one right and
he's just cashing and making a lot of

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scoops. But we'll find out in
the next few years. So this kind

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of tracks a little bit as far
as they were meeting with writers a couple

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of months ago and now there seems
to be some details. So the three

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biggest points are that they're trying to
much like Spider Man, they want it

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to be different than the other X
Men ones, right, they want to

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go different route. So the at
least working ideas that the main character would

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likely be a female. I'm imagining
Geene Gray in my mind. I think

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they would probably go that route and
maybe not. Maybe it could be Road,

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maybe it could be Jubilee Hill.
I don't know, but that's the

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idea. And I know if people
get mad. It's like all the X

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Men movies were, like there was
Hugh Jackman and Patrick Sister who like or

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James McAvoy like, It's always like
there's not been a malee and something have

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gone past, but the three big
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the of course it's gonna be a
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it'd be a female lead. Magneto
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one at all, not as a
hero villain, just not at all.

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And they're eyeing mister Sinister to be
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I don't know if that means if
you'd be killed off or what the

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deal is. But you can't kill
Sinister. He'll turn into some sand on

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the beach, like you always come
back, you know, whatever sounds he

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makes, but you know, whenever
he gets hit by Scott's beams, it's

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hard. It's we talked about this
in one of the retro It's like it's

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so hard to emulate his voice because
whatever the modulation they have in that,

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at least in the animated series,
really hard to replicate, even with Taylor's

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magic that he has on the keyboard. Yeah, so what if you you

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know, you're in the pitch room
they're talking about this stuff. You know,

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maybe maybe stuff like X Men's getting
We talked about this when those writers

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were like they're announcer looking for writers, and maybe they're starting to push that

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a little bit faster because maybe they're
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to get some more big hitters in
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they shouldn't just abandon like Sam and
stuff like I feel like they should have

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been pushing some of the character as
they have now, as like hey we

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got cool Avengers, but now I
feel like, I don't know, there's

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a whole issue. But they sit
you down to and they say, you

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know, we're gonna have a female
main character, mag Neil's gonna take a

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little break for a bit. Obviously, we want to kind of be like

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Homecoming where it's gonna be. We
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Alas mister Sinister as a villain as
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the live action treatment. John Hamm
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the movie never happened, so what
he was supposed to be in Gambit?

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So what do you think about that
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what they're working with or kind of
giving writers of like, hey, would

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these topics interest you in writing a
movie? Yeah, I mean, I

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love having Sinister in there. That's
really fun, and that makes me think

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that, you know, Gene would
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that, just knowing that narrative,
and of course my my knowledge on Sinister

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is strictly X Men animated, but
he appears not all. They do a

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pretty good job and the origins of
him being obsessed with the Summer, the

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scummers, mister scummers, the Summers. That's I feel like that's more of

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a DC villain though, mister scummers. That's the kind of deep cut character

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that James Gunn would would pull out
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would play, mister scummers. You
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all over James Gunn radar, you
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don't think he'll do it. I
don't think Nathan field or whatever. I

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don't think. Yeah, do you
think he could be like in the Suicide

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Squad where James Gunn had a bunch
of deal and they died off in that

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first scene. I can see something
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don't. I don't think. I
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weird, things that or his own
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know him, but that's my Sure, that's my I agree with you on

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Nathan vill. I just like Gun, that's the type of guy want like,

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oh, I want him to play
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of my movies, and oh yeah, Gun would want it absolutely. Yeah,

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you can't always get what you want
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it, so obviously, Yeah,
sinister in the gene connection makes a lot

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of sense. I will say though
from my experience, like, I've never

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fallen in love with any Jean Gray
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don't know why, and I guess
I gotta read some certain compic runs,

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but it's just a character that I
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that as being the leading character,
just because I just feel like she's not

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super interesting and you know, dark
Phoenix stuff, you can get some interesting

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not that movie, but that storyline.

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you know, throwing on a stone
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you can make it happen. But
Nathan, He'll She'll get Nathan in but

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I think I would be much more
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that leading in that leading role.
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but of course it's a whole team
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that could be. The thing is
that Gene gets captured and that's why she's

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not really like a big character in
the movie, is because she's captured by

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Sinister, which is like the reason
why the X Men are to go after

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him, that kind of thing.
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Rogue because even in what is the
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of a three Well not yet,
No, she's not really in that one

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very much, right, Yeah,
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more of a plaud device. Even
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watched those one, but she's a
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first one. She's she's all mcguffin
the first one, right, because needs

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her for powers and stuff. So
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bit so, and then I think
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think there's so much potential there in
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that character, and that one might
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the leader of the X Men boom
end of story. I don't know how

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you swing a rogue as the lead
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happen. I just would need to
need to see it on the screen before

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I could believe it. But I
think Storm you don't even need to talk

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about, So yeah, that could
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too. Yeah, I think Rogue
you build up. I think Rogue if

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she's in there, one are kind
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kind of like what she is in
the show a bit where it's like

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she's she's great, but I mean
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some personal stuff going on, so
she can't be the most dependable there sometimes

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or plus like gamuts around and stuff. So yeah, one day we'll get

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some calm books. So yeah,
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might oter is named after her,
and she's she is one of the best

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X Men, but the movies have
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served to kind of be there for. Wolverine is some eye candy, you

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know, which is not. There's
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to what you're saying. The two
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guess it would be like the first
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people bring up a Jean Scott,
Beasts, Angel and Iceman. I don't

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think there's a world where they have
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around. I think they would spread
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feel like the best way, in
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I think it's three guys, three
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non you know, binary people like
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guys and a girl. I just
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Maybe that's why it's female led,
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just got Gene, you know,
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I just it's curious because like I'm
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like will Wolverine be on the team
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to me, it's like if these
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the other. When we talked about
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we didn't get Goblin or doc Ock
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like you look at that original team
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especially Beast was just in the Marvel's
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are characters will stay away from actually
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they've already been done, Like let's
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I think Gene and Scott kind of
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is the villain, Scott's in there
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He's always obsessed with that bloodline.
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way to put Scott and Gene is
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because it's a storyline about maybe and
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Scott's like the damsel in distress where
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Gene and the team going to get
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I don't think they've ever nailed those
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big opportunity to finally make it work
and do it better than before. Of

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course, naturally, there'sn't risk involved, but yeah, I feel like the

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opposite could happen too. Or if
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live up to Hugh Jackman or something, if they do that going forward,

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maybe that's maybe that's not good either. But I think there's so much potential

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there with the Scott in particular.
Yes, so I think Jean's been maybe

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done better than Scott has. But
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with you guys, so I'm not
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but yeah, Scott's a nothing.
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like Geene and Scott. Of course
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they weren't like big factors. Really
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a obstacles for Wolverine and the girls. There to be a love interest,

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right like I think mister Sinisters.
The villain brings them up to be main

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characters and then it's focused on them, even someone like angel I could see

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Iceman, I don't think so.
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I definitely I feel like that's a
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very curious how they do, how
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Gambit's like a He's not a I
just think you make him like a Dufest

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jokes or like Chris Pratt type.
I feel like that's what you do.

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You don't do any of the other
there's anything problematic with him, But I

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don't know. I just really he's
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is a little prob. But at
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really matter. They would just change
it because like they had that character they

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introduced Harry Styles with He's a character
that had like way way worse history than

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Gambut as far as like using his
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and they kind of re routed in
the like the future but or in the

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present. But I think you still
you still need him to be machiesmo.

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a young Brad Pitt. That's what
we're looking for with Gambit, and you

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just take I think that's perfect,
Like, especially with the roster we're talking

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about. I think that's the kind
of levity you need, not just to

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like fit that Marvel mcu quota,
you know, check that box of making

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sure it's not too serious. You
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you gotta have someone lighthearted on the
team, and I think he could be

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a good one for that. But
yeah, in the future, if you

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want to go deeper on the emotional
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there too. I was supera Mike
could he probably be great, And especially

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because Chris prep is on Earth or
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do get I think in the it
was I got married, right, I

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think they get did Kitty Pride and
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of link them up because oh yeah
star Wars on Earth right now, he's

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chilling. Yeah, was not someone
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I guess because she was like a child

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and stuff. But like, it's
funny our roster classic because it's on the

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Gray, Rogue, and Gambit.
If you got one more, who would

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you put on that? And it's
not Wolverine because yeah, we're pretty we're

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pretty ninety so, but I like
that roster because I like the because I

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also think Jean Scott Roman Gambit.
They are romantically linked, but they're very

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different type of romances. It's not
too samesy, you know. It's like,

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who would you put on there?
You got Storm, let's say she's

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the leader right now, who's your
sixth draft pick? And I'll say it

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for fun, not Beast either,
because Beast is like, yeah, I

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feel like that's easy, right,
because I got Kelsey Grammer and they might

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not do him. Is there somebody? Is it Kitty Pride? Is there

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somebody like that? Right? Only
might be I think it might be Kitty

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he was very sparing that whatever movie.

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there you go. So i'd be
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Uh yeah, but I think Kitty
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And yeah, like who else?
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kind of fine with Colossus existing in
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go ahead with that kind of version. So if you brought if you

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brought Kitty Pride, you could bring
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too, So you could the whole
X movie is just nothing but couples,

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you know, Is that what you're
gonna That's what I was gonna say.

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Yeah, night. I think it's
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right in X two. That's it. That's the only ever one too.

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Oh sorry, they did bring him
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I forgot, but I feel like
he was very like minor, Like I

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feel like it wasn't a big deal
that Nightcrawler was around. They can't so

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I feel like Nightcrawler, like you
make him coolly sells toys like, I

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just feel like he's someone fun on
there. I think honestly, with his

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religious aspects, you could even dive
that a bit more so. And if

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you go out rogue so they didn't
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here would do that in the first
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the road with mystique. Yeah,
there you go. That's a good thing.

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Yeah, so I like that.
Whether it's Kiddy or niccron plus,

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you could you could do sem But
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as the sixth member, and I
think that's good and I guarantee you too.

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They're just gonna be a member that
we have like completely left field.

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Like I've always been a big war
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in. Okay, Yeah, he
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Yeah, he gets killed off like
a bunch because he's just one of the

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like the protector of the realm sort
of guys and stuff. Yeah, it

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gets messed up by those morphine creatures
or whatever. Yeah. And I feel

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like, because he didn't mention it, you're you aren't are But are you

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not surprised about uh maybe Magneto taking
a seat for a bit. Yeah.

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I think exactly what you said about
looking at the Spider Man villains and the

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way they chose to go that,
with that direction of not going with those

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classics and instead bring in some other
characters. And obviously we've done that now

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with No Way Home. We obviously
went back to those places. But I

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think that's a good thing to do. I think start with some fresh characters,

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characters we haven't seen before. You
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to be squeezed in those villains.
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in that way, there are a
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and so I don't think you need
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think that's a good choice. Of
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way around, but I'm okay with
the decision. But your a big Magneto

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head. It doesn't bother you either
though. I'm guessing no, because it's

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just like, it's not like the
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I really want Goblin, all right, Like I dislike that they always

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were skirted around Uncle Ben. It's
like Magneto was in so many projects,

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you know. I know people can
say, oh, we got two Uncle

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Ben's. I just feel like there's
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with Magneto and we got two great
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I feel like Xavier. I feel
like Exavier is pretty vital to the team.

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But hey, even if they came
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different and maybe Xavier put this team
together and he's the classic, like he's

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missing in this universe. I think
some people would be really upset if Exavier

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that First Class era. Those two
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know, I guess Jennifer Lawrence wasn't
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macavoy and fast been Er, those
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So I'm fine if they take a
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I think they'll probably be bring McKellen
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getting like like with Deadpool and Hugh
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So even if it's just Magneto,
like yeah, he's my favorite Marvelville.

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But I think it's fine, and
I think it is tough. People made

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the joke of like, oh,
a film with lots of great points,

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that it's obsessed with net all again
because it's kill Monger. And that's where

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it's just like it is tough because
I always said that when we had Black

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Panther, like, oh, this
is their Magneto, and then they got

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the rights, it's like, oh
shit, like they kind of they like

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that is the Magneto story. Like
what kill Mongers is right, It's like

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he feels like it's people are as
a press and he's gonna use his power

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to strike back. And that's so
I feel like a longer break. And

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there's Omega Red, there's we've said
this before, like I know Kirkham would

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be happy, but like Mojo Vision, like there's so many cool X Men

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films, Yeah there's and even like
Apocalypse. I think you can get like

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a real talk about like another big
bad. You can really build that up

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again to be something like Magneto.
I think he's a card that you can

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pull at any point, and people
are gonna be there for Magneto. I

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think it's fine to sit him out. We got so many movies of Magneto.

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It's it's okay, we're Spider Man. It's we got to foe and

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that was it. So it's like, well, I want another goblin,

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Like I don't count Dane de han
an amazing in spier Man to you the

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same thing with Doc Hawk. That's
what will make complaints of Like I do

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want to see new villains, but
if they're just off the table, that

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kind of sucks. So with Magneto
though, we saw him several times,

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so we're we're okay. Do you
think what is your chance that within the

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next fifteen years. Let's say there's
there's no reboot of MCU. It's going

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strong, you know, has it
been flows but they come back? Yeah,

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what do you think the chance is
that there's ever just like a Savage

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Line movie X Men Savage Line,
where like it's not like some little sequence

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in Multiverse of Badness where you saw
it for like two frames, but it's

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like, you know, ninety percent
of the movie is in the Savage Line,

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the same movie. It's just the
Charles Xavier and Magnus storyline. You

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get sore On in there, you
get Kazar and Zabu and all those all

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Zabu and zor On. Yeah,
a saur On and yeah. Yeah.

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So if this was Marvel Liance,
I would say fiction because I don't think

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a whole movie would take place there. I think if the Disney Plus shows

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were popping off, that's prime for
Disney Plus series, just Savage Lands,

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like oh perfect, so many episodes. But I think Savage Line will be

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a huge location at some point.
But I don't think it'll be ever.

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The X Men are stuck here,
you know, so like cause I think

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even Sinister could be like hiding the
Savage Lance like he was in the show.

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Right, So when you say you
think it's gonna be a huge location,

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what do you mean by not like
that, where like it would be

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Sinisters hanging out at Savage Line and
the whole third act takes plight place on

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Savage Land. Yeah. Yeah,
like a big set piece. I kind

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of like Titan was and in Finny
Were where they fought that. It was

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like something like that where when you're
going you're gonna see like Savage Land on

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screen and the fanboys and girls and
everyone's, Oh, they're going to the

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Savage Land. We know what that
is? A man, I think they

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could they could do something where I'm
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with Xavier at the end of the
X Men movie, Uh, I know,

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Let's say they throw some crazy portal
out Sinister to like knock him into

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another realm. Somehow Xavier gets like, you know, Sinister throws out one

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of his weird arm things, grabs
him, pulls him in. He does

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like some twisty thing. Post credit
scene, Xavier wakes up, Yeah,

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just sees the t Rex and then
like fades to fades to black. And

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that's like the teaser of oh,
I thought, I'll do you one better,

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which I think you'd get that.
And then in the distance you get

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a hello, old friend, and
that's where Magnetio has been this whole thing

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too, right, A pterodactyl,
Yeah, jacked and gray hair. Yeah.

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I think that's what you can say. Is Taylor just faints in the

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theater. He's played by Sam Neil. You know, he's just oh my

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god, Yeah, Taylor faint,
wake up and faint again. No,

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I think McNeil's stuck in savage land. That'd be good explanation where he is.

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You know, he's like, oh, he's just been stuck his voice?

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Is it who's Magneto voice? Is
it new actor or one of the

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classmates. It has to be a
new act I think this would be the

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new one. And who knows who
they get now in fifteen years, could

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be anybody, could be true,
can't be you or me? I guess

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we're not Jewish, So oh does
that have to be? I think so?

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He well his origins where the concentration
can't remember his parents, But do

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you think they I don't know,
haven't we? Yeah? It's tough,

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right, But at the same time, with the X Men, not having

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existed thus far, We've all always
speculated, like, oh, maybe a

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snap created yeah, because it's tough
because I always get the point of people

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being like, but that's like a
big character. I just feel like that's

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a big part of his character than
the or like other than that flashback.

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I feel like I've never ye,
I never think about that as Magneto,

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but I guess, yeah, it's
it's Thetis right, it's the litany of

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a start. The last couple there
are, Jay said, Rogue star off

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as a villain. I could see
that, but because Tom the whole stealing

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Captain Marvel's powers, I love that. I would love that, but I've

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always said I don't think it'd be
a villain. I think it would just

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be like the Avengers get a situation
where they're fighting the X Men, because

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it's like, oh, they don't
know who's who, and then Rogue does.

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I think I don't know if there's
enough time. Maybe if the Marvels

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was bigger, because imagine that if
the Marvel's bigger, we got Captain Marble

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three in the villain when the villain's
Rogue, that'd be so cool. But

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I think with the box office,
the Marvel stuff is like it'll be around,

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but not as much. And then
Super Mike says Bishops will get some

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attention. I agree. I think
you just gotta you gotta wait on him

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for a bit. They already did
Days of Future Pass. I think they

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want to and I think they're gonna
stay clear of time travel multiverse for a

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bit as well too. After we
get through the multiverse saga, I think

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they're gonna really not touch that for
yeah, I think we go ground level

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with XP no cosmic stuff, no
time travel, uh, interdimensional multiverses.

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Well, speaking of ground level,
another rumor that came up this week was

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some elements of Spider Man four.
So Spiderman for has some roomors going around

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that they're the plan is it's still
gonna be you know, grounded, more

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New York City based. It's been
described as a civil war with street level

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heroes and the rumored lineup right now, this is all rumor, but the

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rumored lineup in this plot is obviously
Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Echo, Kate

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Bishop, and the Punisher. I
think there's maybe one more, but most

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of the popular street level characters Kate
Bush Up, Echo, stuff like that.

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That's been the rumor, So I
don't. I don't know whose they

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are, those characters on the same
team or that's I don't know, And

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that's why I don't. That's why
I don't buy, like I guess with

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the Civil because no matter what the
Civil War, it's definitely Spiderman on one

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side and then punishing some other people
because Punisher is definitely on the same side

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of Spider Man. Is is that
the thing where it's like, let's say

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Kingpin and somebody's a villain and there's
like a group of heroes like Punisher there

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like let's just kill these people,
and Spider Man the good team and Daredevil

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being like, let's do this like
the way of justice, you know,

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because like I could see Jessica Jones
being on the kill side, right she

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killed kill, kill Grave and stuff. So maybe that's what it is where

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and yeah, there's no specification of
who was there. It was just these

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are characters that are being talked about
right now, Echo and Punisher and Jessica

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Jones. Matt also been talked about
a bunch, But what do you what

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do you think about that? As
far as like we're fans of the Spider

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Man Animated series and a lot of
those crossovers. Would you be down for

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some sort of conflict between the street
heroes of New York in a Spider Man

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movie? Ah? Would I be
down for that? Hmm? I just

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feel like I feel like we have
so much ground to cover in this next

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Spider Man movie in terms of him
kind of being like a blank slate character

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going into it all these connections.
I don't know, Man, you're saying

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Daredeviler is saying, Jessica Jones,
Punisher, you speak your whisper in the

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Sweet Nothing's like I I do want
it. I don't know. I gotta

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think about it where I have to
see maybe the pitch for the full thing.

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The part that throws me off about
this is the Kate Bishop one though,

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because I just feel like this seems
too soon after the setup of like

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the cap of the the Marvel's post
credit scene for her to then be here.

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True, she's just killing time in
New York when Kamala con is trying

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to round up the heroes, right, that could be it. Kamala is

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at a different universe trying to I'm
trying to think, is there another like

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Marvel character like that who was in
like two kind of separate storylines just kind

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of randomly the same. Like,
I don't know, I don't really see

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the connection between the Scar that Scar
who he surprised Scar I mentioned without Taylor

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having to be on the episode.
Yeah, now I just bring them all

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the time, like technically Miss Marvels, cause she'd have shown them in the

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movie like she was bouncing your teen
like I guess not. But like I

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mean, she lives in New York, I think still who knows where she

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those at this point? Yeah,
give me, please give me a scene

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of the Mom Villani and John Berth. I want to see that conversation between

404
00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:11,119
the Punisher and Miss Marlins. What
do they talk about? Like what like

405
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:17,920
birthell would get lots of good comedy
gold like he he's so good that I

406
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,359
trust, I trust it. But
yeah, I don't know. There there's

407
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,839
something about this that seems like it's
not gonna be the case for me.

408
00:23:26,079 --> 00:23:29,680
I don't I guess if I had
to pin, Like the Kate Bishop and

409
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,519
the Jessica Jones part are the things
that send out the most to me as

410
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,920
not really lining up for whatever reason, because obviously you got the connection between

411
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:42,279
Like, but I don't think.
I don't see how you leap frog that

412
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,720
and a Spider Man though, that
seems like too much for me, Like

413
00:23:45,759 --> 00:23:48,759
I feel like if you want a
character like that, like a she Hull

414
00:23:48,839 --> 00:23:52,079
cannot like a super strong She's not
personality wise like Jessica. But I feel

415
00:23:52,079 --> 00:23:55,640
like that makes more sense in the
mcy u verse when you get Daredvil because

416
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,240
of the Sield connection there, and
that's like, where what else is she

417
00:23:59,279 --> 00:24:00,440
all gonna do? She's not New
York though, right, She's in Los

418
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:06,440
Angeles. I know what's my leap. I'm sure she can jump that.

419
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,240
That's true pretty quick. Maybe if
it's like a serious issue like that,

420
00:24:10,279 --> 00:24:11,720
they don't want she All, who's
gonna be a bit kind of Quippi to

421
00:24:11,759 --> 00:24:15,160
be around, like I know Spider
Man, I guess. But like all

422
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,519
these other characters we listed other than
Kate Bishop are serious, right, like

423
00:24:18,599 --> 00:24:22,559
Echo Punisher, Jessica Jones. Matt
can be a little Quippi, but he's

424
00:24:22,599 --> 00:24:25,920
more serious side, So I think
that's maybe it is just the tone saying

425
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,160
things like why Kamala wouldn't be around? And I don't know it, I'm

426
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,119
I really want like it's a you
know, it's a like what is it

427
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,920
the first world problem? But I
I do really want some like soume confirmation,

428
00:24:40,039 --> 00:24:41,400
like what is happening with this movie? Because we just keep hearing like

429
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,440
obviously at least we keep hearing Daredevil
come up. So I'm happy about that.

430
00:24:45,839 --> 00:24:48,799
And it's kind of like the Wolverine
thing where honestly, if I got

431
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,200
Daredevil in it, that's really all
I would need. I wouldn't need like

432
00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:56,240
I don't get me wrong, I
wouldn't turn these down, but I would

433
00:24:56,279 --> 00:24:57,880
just I just really want Daredevil and
Spider Man, and I want those two

434
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,319
to be together for a movie and
go from there and Kingpinn with some other

435
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,200
big villain. Great, that's all
I need. But I do get And

436
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,480
this is what I was talking about
today, because that's been the big h

437
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,799
you know, because you're on social
media with the big like complaint against this

438
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,079
has just been like, oh,
why can't they just make a Spider Man

439
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,440
movie? You know, it's just
like as usual. It's like a business

440
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:21,119
agreement, and Sony signed on this
agreement wanting MSU characters. You know.

441
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,240
It's just like so I never get
why people have not really understood that.

442
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,640
And I get that you want to
sol a Peter movie, but it's like

443
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,960
you have five of those already.
That's not Tom Holme regardless. Sure,

444
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,160
but and even to me in Home
Coming Afar from Home, Fury and Stark

445
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,640
are in them, but they're in
them for such a small amount, like

446
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,519
no Way Home I could give you, but that to me is just never

447
00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:42,279
a complaint, Like and I would
get why Sony Kiss. I don't think

448
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,200
any of those characters we listed,
Daredevil, Jessica, Jones, pun Ser,

449
00:25:47,599 --> 00:25:51,000
they're as big as Iron Man by
themselves, but all together as a

450
00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:55,039
package. I think that's really cool
and really tempting for them to be like,

451
00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:57,079
hey, we don't have a big, a tier character, but five

452
00:25:57,559 --> 00:26:03,119
characters here really interesting. I just
don't probably don't buys the Civil War part

453
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,680
because I just don't think it's not
like the movie Civil War we had all

454
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,880
these phases that made sense throwing all
these characters in here, like oh,

455
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,799
there's a conflict that just doesn't That
just doesn't make sense to me, Like

456
00:26:12,839 --> 00:26:15,039
you need a lot of build up
to get there. In my opinion,

457
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:22,680
I also feel like that what we
maybe want and maybe what would be best

458
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,160
for the character would be a small
scale Peter movie where he's you know,

459
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:32,160
finding himself again and there's like one
villain and that's probably like the safest bet

460
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,160
in terms of like this will be
a good movie, but like, what

461
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,279
are you gonna do. You're gonna
have two movies that will save equivalent like

462
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,839
threat level and whatnot, and then
you're gonna go to this thing where there's

463
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,079
multi versus up. They bring about
Toby and Garfield and they had all these

464
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,000
like your favorite Spider Man villains,
and then what the next movie after that

465
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,799
is just gonna be like, oh
yeah, we took like seven steps back

466
00:26:49,799 --> 00:26:52,720
and it's just like a boring,
old simple movie. Of course, me

467
00:26:52,759 --> 00:26:56,480
and you, Travis and the people
in our school we want that, but

468
00:26:56,559 --> 00:27:00,079
I don't think Marvel's not gonna look
at it that way. Even something like

469
00:27:00,599 --> 00:27:03,759
Captain America. Look at that like
how they ratchet that up the intensity that

470
00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:06,960
to like building up to Civil War, and that looks like they're gonna make

471
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,119
Captain America four even though it's you
know, slight difference. It's a new

472
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,519
cap character, but still like they're
gonna bring a bunch of other characters.

473
00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:17,559
Thor had a slimmer thing where smaller
scale ish the first two. Then you

474
00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:19,880
go to Ragon Rock and you start
introducing all these other side characters and then

475
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,839
like thor Love and thunder throws Guardians
in there. You know, like that

476
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,759
wasn't very meaningful, but it was
still like, Okay, we got to

477
00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:29,440
ratchet up the intensity. How many
characters are in here? And I just

478
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,359
feel like you can't really. I
think I think you could go backwards.

479
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,240
But I think from the Marvel perspective, I think from a marketing perspective,

480
00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:40,279
from the Sony's you know, they're
getting their grubby little fingers in there.

481
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:41,440
I don't think they look at it
and think, oh yeah, let's go

482
00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:45,680
back to just some simple movie.
And so even then, like I think,

483
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,640
compared to the big characters in No
Way Home, I don't think these

484
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,559
characters even sem a chance in terms
of like big popular hype levels. I

485
00:27:52,599 --> 00:27:55,480
mean, you got the Netflix fans
in there, I guess, but even

486
00:27:55,519 --> 00:27:57,680
that's been so many years since those
shows were happening, So it definitely doesn't

487
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:02,160
feel like as big as No Way
Home. But it feels like an attempt

488
00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:06,160
towards that at least. Well that's
always been my issue, like not that

489
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:07,000
like same thing, he said,
not that I have an issue with it,

490
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,480
but when people said, oh,
you know, it'd just be Daredevil.

491
00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:15,400
I want that. But does Sony
view Charlie Cox is Daredevil as big

492
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,599
as you know, Robert Downey,
Sam Jackson and Bendi Combat Absolutely not even

493
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,279
to me, Daredevil and Kington as
a package. Not. So that's why

494
00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:26,480
I say, at least if it's
like six or seven characters, maybe they

495
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,799
look at that the same thing as
like, Okay, it's a ground level

496
00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:33,799
thing. But if it is,
if I could see Figgy and Team,

497
00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:36,920
if they keep pitching it to Sony
like this is the next Civil War,

498
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,680
maybe that's how they could sell.
And hell, who knows. Maybe whatever

499
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,519
we do, maybe that's where we
do get a Tom Hardy in there,

500
00:28:42,599 --> 00:28:45,119
right, Like that could be another
thing where oh we'll throw in one of

501
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,599
these Sony things. It's like you
got burnth like cause like burnth All's a

502
00:28:48,599 --> 00:28:52,759
good star and like Hayley Steinfield's a
big enough star, and I think the

503
00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:56,680
other ones have like certain levels.
But I agree with you. That's always

504
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,119
my fears. I want them to
go back to basics, and I think

505
00:28:59,119 --> 00:29:02,119
that's what they need. By do
they few they can do? After no

506
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,960
way home. I don't know.
I hope they do. I I'd love

507
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,480
that because I think like, as
long as it's quality that that'll that'll come.

508
00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:11,799
Maybe it won't be your billion dollar
earner, but I still think he's

509
00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:14,480
gonna be in all these Avengers movies. That's where you can get your spider

510
00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:15,559
action. But of course it's a
Sony movie, right, so they also

511
00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:21,680
don't want to be like save the
billion dollar movie for like Marvel Studio stuff.

512
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,759
We also want to be the billion
dollar movie. And yeah, and

513
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,000
you know, like there's a good
chance that Zendea is not in this next

514
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,720
movie either. She's a she's a
big deal these days too, right,

515
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,640
she'll be in You're also you think
you think she'll have a big role in

516
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,720
it. They'll they'll fork over tons
of money to make sure. I think

517
00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:40,440
so. I think that's why story
wise they reconnect. I thought that like

518
00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:42,160
doesn't take away from all you think. They just don't care about the story

519
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,279
implications. They just got to do
it because she's ind I think you get

520
00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:48,079
halfway through, like the first half
of the movie is like, oh,

521
00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:52,799
like you seem familiar, and then
like by the end of the movie,

522
00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:56,440
there together they're kissing. I think
it's I think it reminds me were just

523
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,200
some X Men. It reminds me
a lot of Jennifer Lawrence's Mystique, where

524
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,000
a mystique. Those movies were like
why is Mystique such a big main character?

525
00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:07,599
Why she on the X Men team? But it was like Jennifer Lawrence

526
00:30:07,839 --> 00:30:10,920
like blew up in between those movies. And I think Zendia is the same

527
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,599
thing, where they will find a
reason some vilam will kidnap her or something

528
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,519
like. I think Zendia will one
hundred percent be in Spider Man four and

529
00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:23,559
like a supporting character, I think
they will have her in there. I

530
00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:30,119
guess I'm I'm thinking about the the
closest equivalent in the MCU is like star

531
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,079
Lord and Gomora, and obviously More
is in Guardians three just as much as

532
00:30:34,079 --> 00:30:37,920
she isn't any other one. But
they didn't do the thing that a lot

533
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,279
of us thought they would have,
Like they just make her and star Lord

534
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:45,079
get together again and there's some big, happy family, And I mean,

535
00:30:45,079 --> 00:30:47,799
who even knows what the future of
Guardians is, of course with the James

536
00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:49,960
Gunn situation of it, but I
don't know, Like they didn't do it

537
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,839
there. They didn't just get them
back together. She's not Sandea though,

538
00:30:53,920 --> 00:31:00,000
you know, biggest, biggest shar
dude. Zoe's Aldana though, that's like

539
00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:06,559
the original Zendia, Zendias and Sodana. That's hard. She's a billion dollar

540
00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:11,559
movie maker right there. She has
more billion dollar movies than Zendeia than anyone

541
00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:12,960
else. Majority of people in the
world do not know she. Yes,

542
00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:18,480
she's always wearing green skin or like
blue cgi, but still she's huge.

543
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:22,960
Yeah, I guess I just don't
think she's in demand like Zendia. You

544
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,799
know, she's not leading franchises like
hers. I think I think this is

545
00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:29,359
where though. And I also just
don't think they're gonna do Gwen. I

546
00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:33,160
don't think they're gonna do black Cat. I don't think they're gonna do like,

547
00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:36,680
what's another love interest out there?
It's even just Felicia Hardy. I

548
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,599
think they're gonna just stick with MJ
and it's not something I want. But

549
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,119
I think with Zendia and plus they're
dating in real life too, so I

550
00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:47,440
think that's the way. Like Tom
keeps doing this thing, I think that

551
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,519
helps. I don't know if it
helps. I think it helps because I

552
00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:51,559
think Tom keeps doing the singers like, I don't know what, Like,

553
00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:52,880
I want to come back, but
I'm not too sure how much you'll do

554
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,359
it. I think if they get
them both on, it's like, uh,

555
00:31:56,759 --> 00:31:59,759
oh, well we're doing it together, right, so like where we

556
00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:04,160
felt love and stuff, So I
think I think you pull the Zendaya and

557
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,440
you know, I feel like day
at some point her career is just gonna

558
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,200
stop doing these big blockbuster things and
just go win like five oscars in a

559
00:32:10,279 --> 00:32:13,519
row or something. I think she'll
go do that, but I don't know

560
00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:15,000
if she's doing that yet, because
I think, you know, do what's

561
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:17,640
happening, like I think right now
is like her Blockbuster era. Yeah,

562
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:22,920
she's gonna do it all. And
then Euphoria is like her acting and the

563
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,920
era. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Well, well we'll see.

564
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,640
I hope we get some details on
this soon because we're gonna get all

565
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,799
those Sony movies next year, so
I hope after that we start to learn

566
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,400
something because it's been pretty quiet.
We don't even have we don't even know

567
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,559
if we have a director of respirding
for because I don't know if John Watson

568
00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:40,799
is coming back, because that was
the other room that they were meeting with,

569
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,920
Like, they want Wats to come
back, but there's other people.

570
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,680
So remind me. Did he do
one, two and three? One two

571
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,319
and three? Yeah, yeah,
all three. So all right, we'll

572
00:32:51,359 --> 00:32:53,480
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573
00:32:53,559 --> 00:32:55,759
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