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just been killing it. It's been a week. Uh it's I'm so tired.
I got that. I had to make this smugger rita. I just
had too. I'm so tired. It's time to get real. I um
was doing my brain training and I I on my three DS and uh it
was doing the three back and I'm like, okay, I'm getting the hang
of it. And then about ten math questions in, I just completely lost
it and I wanted to just fall on the ground and cry. I was
just like, I'm done, and it's done. It's mostly because steps been
gone all week. I've went the kids and don stop and I'm done.
I'm like these these little monsters and hey, good news. Her flight got
canceled. So we're we're rolling over here, everybody, and we're on a
roll. God, is she gonna have to travel with this constantly? Like
everyone again, it's bad right now, it'll be there'll be quite a substantial
break after this, I think, so you know, later this year,
probably one other trip. But no, it's just a couple more back,
just a couple more weeks, so you have to abandon her with the kids
chef, you know, I just I just did like a couple of weeks
ago, right, So now it's gonna be Yeah, I'm not like,
I'm glad that she's got this fun job where she gets to do she's in
Nashville doing cool stuff like that's neat. Yeah, and it's like, oh,
yeah, I'm glad, but it's like, man, uh, these
kids are now six and four and they can really messy up. Now they're
just NonStop so orri's rough. It's uh, everyone's like terrible twos. I
thought of just from from like my nephews and nieces. Three and four was
pretty rough even honestly. Just now at like eight is when they're finally like
at an they are generally okay on their own a lot of the time.
They don't need like constant supervision or they're not going to come up to you
just every little moment that they can. Yeah, you know, it's not
their fault, they're just they are kids. You can have another kid reset
the clock. Yeah, I would die. Yeah, I would be a
dead person. That's just the absolute truth. Uh yeah, and it really.
ADDIE's been on terrible twos for two straight years. Absolutely, that's what
it's been. Yeah, that's all of them. Had. All my nepieces
are terrible twos last for years. Yep. Uh, you know they're great
though. We're getting there the great. She's lucky, she's cute. Huh
oh yeah, oh absolutely, for real, she is very lucky about that.
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Yeah, we all of us at games we I think, are just incredibly
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gonna be busy pretty much all weekend with that stuff. So exactly, it's
a lot. It's a lot, and I'm but there's bruising under here.
We go, all right, Um, I got some topics, I got,
I really all I want to talk about the PlayStation Showcase, because okay,
if that's all we talked about this week, well, well there's some
other things I think we'll be fun. Well, if you bring them up,
I'm fine. I'm just not going to initiate, Mike. That's where
I'm out on this episode. So if you throw them out, I'll initiate
tonight. Baby. You also talk about goalm is it? That's that's of
course, of course, Showcase Gollum, and then we'll do our bullshit.
It'll be terrific. PlayStation Showcase was weird, right, it was weird,
and yeah, you know it's like as I was like watching it and almost
ameliately afterwards, I'm like, I guess that's okay. Yeah, the more
I thought about it, the less I like to hear here's the here's the
way to put it. It was just a C and it's that so bad.
It's a CEA, but it's a CE that really should have been in
A. I think everybody was expecting an A. It just seemed like they
were poised to deliver an A. It's been a long time since stay done
one of these Showcase. We're in the middle of this console generation now there
are so many of their own studios that we don't really know what's happening with
Again, it just seemed like they were set up to come out with a
Killers showcase, and what we got was just you know what, Edward and
Chat just says, how many live service games do we need? And it
just clicked in my head what is wrong. A typical Sony showcase is one
game after another that you could conceivably conceivably see yourself enjoying, playing, getting
and moving on to the next one. They are now at a place where
they are trying to be like, here's one live service gaming, but like,
here's another one you might like, And we all know no one person
is going to play all of these live service games. If you try them,
there's no way you're going to stick with all of them. By the
way they're designed. They are designed to like go after different segments of the
audience. So Sony is now shifted from having a showcase that could could see
like every major game in there could be for everybody, or or every game
in there could be for any one individual, and they've shifted to be like,
here is our smattering menu that there's no way all of these are going
to apply to everybody, but they might apply to somebody, and suddenly it's
like completely shifts how we are supposed to interact with these things, where like
we're supposed to pick the one or two things we want, and it's like,
you took up an hour of my time to show me one game.
I might like, maybe it's this new era of Sony, which I completely
understand the financial and business implications of going after live service games. It does
not fit with the old model of their showcases, not really. And I
listen, they still are making a lot of those old games, they just
didn't bring any of them here. And why they didn't, who the hell
knows. I think it was a really bad choice. It was really weird,
and that's like that's the big thing. There just weren't that many PlayStation
studios games. Like the whole thing kind of felt like this isn't like meant
to be a dig on like a Keiley show, but it felt like a
Keiley show a lot of the times, Like we're getting those games, you
know, I mean we opened with that that Haven studio thing or whatever,
and I'm like, this, this is a weird thing to open with.
Some CG trailer for this game that's clearly aping a lot of things esthetically in
gameplay wise from other things like why is this a big deal? Like,
you know, no, no, Shade of Jade Raymond. She hasn't even
released a game in like what fifteen years, like right, why? Yeah?
So I'm like, wait, why is you're leading with this? No?
Like just the first like few games just all felt like okay, like
you're even like that one fantasy first person shooter with the awful name Immortals of
Avian or something Mortals of Avium. Yeah, and it's like, okay,
like the game player looks kind of good, supposedly it's a metro Vanium,
but then it's doing the for spoken kind of we have jokes thing or something.
I don't know, maybe I felt like something was off with the running
there. So the first handful of games, fair Games, Ghost Runner two,
Hell Divers two, Immortals of Avum, Blade, Fantom Blade zero sort
of seat, and then we getting like Talis Principle and some of those other
games that felt like the kind of going off in the direction, um,
you know. Hell Divers two was probably the one that looked the most interesting
to me there, and that was definitely like taking a game that a lot
of people liked, stepping it up to the big leagues in a way that
like sort of house Marks stepped up with Returnal and sure, exactly, sure,
let's go. I'm down for some of that. I bet I'm gonna
like that. But I bet I'm gonna like Ghost Runner two. There's a
lot of these that are that are probably gonna be good games. UHM.
I was also a prised how much people seem sold on Fantom Blade. That
was like one of the ones. I'm right, you interested in. A
lot of people are into that. I think it's just like the looks enough.
It's gonna get close enough to Seccaro, and a lot of people really
like Seccaro. I mean, who knows beyond that, Like, and I
don't blame you for being like, oh, it is too desaturated and that's
not your style. Another tea. I know, if I feel like we
have so many souls, like and here's just another one, like it just
kind of looks like a worse lot. Lou Long Is that what that I
was called to me? But whatever? Long? I think Long? Yeah?
How Long is the name of the special panda from World Warcraft Missipientdo are
you that a turtle friend? I think, yeah, that's what I was
gonna say. Um, I mean, let's listen. Any one of those
games you could pick up and be like really excited about it's and I think,
um, if you're starting that way, it's like, oh, because
they're saving the big things, and there are big things. I think there
are some issues with the big things too. Middle Gear Solid three issues is
a is the wrong word. I think issues In terms of the feelings we
have towards the showcase, you get the medal. Gear Solid three very exciting.
Uh, that's a multi platform game, just like many of the big
games that in this showcase were Dragons Dogma two. A Dragons Dogma two that's
a ut platform, great multi platform marathon marathon Allen Wick two. Yeah,
let's talk about marathon. It's like that. You know, that was a
CD trail and that's a whole nother thing. Here's a lot of CD trailers,
but that was like a really cool CD trailer. It's Bungee's like first
time working on something that isn't Destiny in Forever, the bringing back this old
ip. I'm like, oh cool, Like whatever this is if it's either
a single player like shooter campaign from Bungee for the first sever that'll be cool,
or if it's some stand alone like PDP thing, that's that's pretty cool.
I'm a little disappointed. This is literally an extraction shooter, like literally
just Bungee chasing that train. And look, it'll probably be good. They'll
probably be like one of the probably one that's one of those. Right.
Yeah. I am sort of in the mood to be like, I want
the extraction shooter that wins me over, and this seems like it could easily
be that one. But right again, there's just so many yeah ifs and
wait and sees. I guess that's true for everything you do with a showcase.
It just doesn't always feel that way with the PlayStation Showcase. In the
past, we would get a big presentation from Sony and they it would feel
like an open and shut thing, like, well, obviously that was good.
Obviously all those games are Game of the Year contenders or or what have
you, and um, there was really none of that here except for then
we get the Spider Man and uh, it's Spider Man two. Um,
Spider Man two, like and if I worked on Spider Man two. I
would I would hate me also right now, Oh oh absolutely yes, I
would hate me for being like because like the things they're doing are obviously incredible.
It's going to be so much fun to play. And I am just
sitting here like that went on for too long, right, But it's like,
show us something, don't show us that much, Like we're complete shits.
I reletely get it, but like I think the big problem is and
again I don't understand how we don't know how to pace these things with You
don't actually just end with something that is the super known quantity, like like
Spider Man two is almost a b of its own success. Those other Spider
Man games kind of figured it out, like what are you going to add
to it that's going to be that interesting? Like, okay, of course
the Symbios suit is here, and then Miles has a wink suit Like those
are like the things that are new. And I mean, is this Sony
running into the problem that Sony seems like it could be running into very soon,
which is diminishing returns on all of those big things that it just came
with last time around. This is like supposed to be They're they're big,
like this is the one made four PlayStation five, no PlayStation four version.
Is I mean, is there really a difference between the quality of this I
bet, I bet the digital forward video will be very illuminating. But I
did not see it here. I don't. I don't see it in the
video, and that they showed us which you would would assume best foot forward
right or is this the best action sequence early in the game, so it's
not spoiling stuff. I don't know how they choose these things. I just
know that I was, by the end pretty bored and that, of course
that sucks. I'm bored by your commercial. Go to hell, Jeff grab
I will hear you, Insami, but it's it'd be queer Spider Man's definitely
not the prop. That game looks good, it's gonna be super fun,
it's gonna be a big hit. But you're positioning that as this last thing.
You gotta give me something else. And it seemed like they're almost too
worried about showing games beyond like the next coming year or so like no,
like we haven't heard from me in a while, tell me now about like
what's coming in the future that I should start getting really excited about I mean,
okay, so nothing for Sucker Punch, Naughty Dog House, Smart Point,
nothing Studio, London studio, nix S's San Diego studio, Gorilla Games
Media team of Sobey come on sorry, um, I mean Point, Blue
Point right, Blue Point, come on, I mean Demon Souls, Yeah,
sure, come on, just something but blood Born, like people would
have freaked out so much just for hey, Bloodborne's gonna be sixty percent on
PlayStation five now. And where the hell was Factions? That is just a
weird like look, I don't even I know, I drag on Class was
all the time, but it's really weird that Factions was not there or anything
from Naughty Dog really, but obviously Factions is their next thing, Like what's
going on? Yeah, it's it's it's weird. I continue, like,
I look at the list and it's um, so much stuff that is multi
platform and all, and then that list of developers that would have provided the
single or the first party exclusives not showing up. And I kind of don't
know how you do this showcase for the first time after two years basically it
and it has all that stuff and it doesn't have all of those studios.
It's a chance that they're like worried about showing too many exclusives because they just
been on this big public campaign about how exclusives are evil. Is that me
really overthinking things? I don't know. So that was the um one of
the things. But remember back last year when there was the rumors of this
showcase coming, and then there was the reason that I came from one of
these PlayStation insiders, was they're in that battle with with Microsoft overactivision, and
so they've really been doing this for that long o. God, we've been
doing it for this long. Yes, and it's and so they're like,
oh, they don't want to show it off because of that, and it's
like that was not the truth. Then. I doubt that's the truth now.
But but who knows. I mean, of course they could. I
mean Jim Ryan very involved in that deal. Jim Ryan seems to be very
involved in this showcase. Uh yeah, I don't know. I think that
it's likely that. Okay, let's break it down to Ockham's Razer and these
are the games they could get for this and all those studios we list and
we said, hey, why don't they have anything? They probably have games
that are either within the next year or the next even the next two and
a half years would have been fair enough to show in this show. They
probably do have stuff that's coming in that timeframe. Maybe it really is so
hard to build assets for one of these shows or without like disrupting your development
so much that it just doesn't make sense. Like maybe it just comes back
to that. I don't I could. I could see that, and I
think that's why even for the games we did see it is CG trailers,
because you can't get somebody to make one of those, even though CG trailers
take about two months of time off of developers working on games, is what
I've been told. I asked about this about, you know, late last
year, and I was given like a rundown. It's like, yeah,
if we build an asset ourselves and game asset and we work on that,
that's going to be like six months of work for a lot of people.
And if we do a CG T I'm like, so, what about CG
trailer? You send that out to an external team, Like, yeah,
that's about two months of us because we have to be super involved in all
that stuff. That's branding, that's asking answering questions, every single day,
meetings multiple times per week. I could see. I could see, like
you know, a lot of these companies have decided that's not worth it.
A lot of the times. It's one of the major major reasons that a
company had, like Sony pulls away from E three in the first place,
not wanting to be like having to dedicate themselves to one percent showing up for
that stuff and forcing their teams to create assets every single year. Maybe these
teams have gotten used to not having to do that, and when they get
the requests, they're like, actually, can we we'd rather not? Maybe
I get that. To me, that's the simplest one and maybe the most
generous reading here. As far as fans taking their time to go watch this,
I don't know how much that matters. At a certain point, you
are asking time from people to come here and sit and watch this thing,
and at the end of the day, like it's I think it's very selfish
and self centered of us to be like entertainment's more with your commercials. But
still you are taking our time to a certain extent, or asking time of
us and making a big deal out of it. I think it's only fair
that we judge it relatively harshly, right, Yeah, you mean you asked
us to show up. We got to be honest about what we thought about.
And like, obviously PlayStation is going to be fine. This is situation.
We're like, oh, they're going to be in trouble now. But
it is just feel a little weird. It just it felt like they were
in a position here to just come out really strong and to blow us all
away. I mean, look, when you have a good showcase, it
can feel like a turning point. When they had that ridiculous showcase kind of
earlier on that PlayStation four era where we got like the first you know,
look at Fassys seven remake and we had that big look and Chary at four
and last Guardian came out Shen Move three, which you cared, but Shen
Move three, who exciting? Like yeah, I kind of felt like something
of like a moment for them, and there was momentum from that. There's
no momentum here, yeah, um, I mean you know, there's we
can maybe talking about the longer term or the or the like the year that
Sony's having overall here in a second, but the last few things Project Q
and the PlayStation five earbuds whatever do the earbuds that that project Q. I
am definitely gonna get it. I like that thing. I'm a goddamn weirdo.
Though with handhelds, we know this, so of course I'm gonna get
it. Is anyone else, I doubt it's interesting like they don't. They're
not even positioning as a handheld. They're positioning it as an accessory. And
maybe that's how we should think about this thing, but it is Again,
the question is how much is it going to cost? If it really is
just this device for remote play, that's what it is. It's a you
know, it's gonna have us a little bit of a Sony tax, which
is not equivalent to an Apple tax, but it's gonna have a premium price.
So I think it's under over under two hundred. If I had to
say over under for two I would because I was gonna say, I would
push the two hundred. But if I have to say over under, I
go over and say two fifty, which is they could easily come in at
three hundred. Also though it could easily come in a very expend I mean,
think about that Logitech and whatever the fuck that thing was. H G
gamer Cloud thing that was what almost four hundred dollars, three hundred fifty dollars,
And that thing is less than I think what this PlayStation project he was
going to be. How much is just I mean, some people are saying
one hundred I mean, how much is just a dual sense cost? That
wasn't that like seventy eighty bucks now right the way it's going to be just
one hundred. Oh yeah, and there's no way it's just one hundred.
It's at least two hundred dollars I think. But uh yeah, whatever it
is, I'm gonna pay. That's very very convenient for me if fits into
the way I like to play games. I found myself really struggling to get
my steam deck to stream games so I could use that to play Jedi Survivor.
When I got the PS five code, couldn't get that working. So
I'll pay. I'll pay the fee to make games fit into my life.
That's worth it to me. I Uh, I think the thing looks weird.
I think it's I think it looks really stupid. It looks really step
okay with the way it looks, but you know me, I like PlayStations
weird esthetic at them. Yeah, like, yeah, I think it looks
stupid, and I'm mostly kind of excited about how stupid it looks. Yeah
sure, I mean I looks look stupid exactly exactly right how I feel.
I look like an idiot and I love it. Um okay, so what
did what has Sony had this year? Now? So it's gonna have sort
of the back half of this year. I mean, are you spoken?
Were spoke? It definitely came out this year for them, Yes, uh,
there was, there was. They had a better game than that right
there. They had um well, they places VR and we didn't even talk.
They did have some VR stuff and just not they touted that, hey,
this thing's actually selling better than the first PlayStation VR, and I was
like, okay, maybe they're gonna like come out here again with something cool.
And it was you know, VRM for a resume four, which is
neat then like some first person shooters I'll never want to play. I still
just can't believe that they can't get a deal done to get halfway foulks on
there. I have no idea what you're waiting for there, and they clearly
don't have like aside from that Horizon thing, it just does not feel like
they are really getting their studios on making VR stuff. Oh right, I
do. There's no way that people. Okay, so people get mad at
me when I talk about VR surprise shocking, Yes, shocking, and I'm
just like, I can't hope. The way I feel about it. The
way I feel about it is my honest opinion of the assessment of the situation,
and fair I based a lot of like the wider opinion on that Bloomberg
report of only three hundred thousand sold. Six hundred thousand definitely better, even
if it's like a different period of time, but whatever, it's definitely better.
Sure, that doesn't really change the way I felt about the launch lineup
and the what appears to be the level of support from Sony, and in
this showcase absolutely did nothing to change that. In fact, I think it
only reinforced how I think they are going to treat the PlayStation VR two in
terms of software support. It's gonna be games like Arizona Sunshine too. Is
it rough to do any kind of a showcase at a time we're all actively
playing Tears of the Kingdom. Yeah, I mean, obviously you got to
do it when you got to do it. But I mean, yes,
Serious of the Kingdom is so special, like it's there's so much going on
there. It's it's changed, like we won't really feel the like the full
effects of the Breadth of the Wild and then Tears of the Kingdom for for
years, because I think it's like finally going to convince every developer that they
need to, like at least take many of these lessons that they were like,
oh maybe that was just Breadth of the Wild. We could just take
some of these other things. But you know, you got to do your
showcase. When you got to do your showcase, and yeah, I think
having a list of games like that, uh, and then trying to make
your big one of your big things PSVR two for this entire year, and
it feeling really half baked at this point. Um, and then you know
you're for Spoken and then spider My two later this year, and then the
third party exclusive Final Fantasy sixteen being your lineup for the year. Hey,
you know what that's better than some systems is better in the Xbox last year
by buy a Country mile They I feel like, are we forgetting something?
I had to have something I was bigger. I feel like they did.
I mean, God of War was late last year, right, and then
What's Horizon was definitely you don't what does that matter? God of War late
last year, huge, very big game. Got it was last year.
It doesn't count anymore. You know what. That's again way better than Xbox
uh but but you know, still I'm trying to, like, Oh,
let's assess how this thing is actually going. I was expecting to fill out
that second half of this year way more than just Mettle. Yeah, not
even Twisted Metal God. I mean, I don't know, I don't get
it. I mean Twisted Metal Got It's it's a development I guess, rebooted,
not long enough ago for them to actually have something to release. I
still thought they would show it. Horizon was last year. Yeah, of
course, Yeah, so LC good point, Nicholas presided, Yeah, I
guess that was. What was your favorite thing from the showcase's let's do a
little I think Dragon's Dogma two game play. That was gameplay, right,
it's gameplay, and it looks great. It literally looks like they took this
game that was, like, you know, pretty cool, and some people
really liked it it, but like maybe it's like a really good seven and
like now it's hey, sometime later Capcom is just on this role. Now,
yeah, we're gonna turn that and kind of give it more of sky
Rim vibes. That's kind of what I was getting from, Like, oh
man, this could actually be a giant hit. I'm all up and ready
for this. I mean, there's like that, there's other thing. I
mean, I think Hell Divers too looks like it's gonna be a lot of
fun. Yeah, Ghos Run or two looks when I mean that, uh
Squires Tell or whatever. The Plucky Squire, Like that's where all these games,
Plucky Squires the one I'm gonna enjoy the most. But but if I'm
like trying to judge it back on, like, oh, how is the
showcase the thing that I'm most excited about Dragon's Dog too, Even so it's
not exclusive, but it's this big game and we haven't seen gameplay before.
I've seen Plucky Squire before. I don't know. There's a lot of games
here that I know I'm gonna like the way too. I'm like, thanks
to the Game mess Game Club, I'm like kind of an Owl and Lake
fan now, and I'm like, yeah, they're they're kind of leaning into
it in a way. That's cool. I think there's either a guy like
who's just like mate through like Max Paine for a week we nudge, or
it's actually Max Payne and I think that's neat. It's you know Sam Lake,
right? Is that because so Sam Lake? Yeah, because it was
just a developer. But like so it's like are they is it just him
again or is it literally like that's supposed to be Max Payin right? Are
they going to do the Remedy verse and bring all that together in control?
Alan Wake already showed up in a controlled DLC. I think so, yeah,
it was. It was always referenced in there and stuff, and then
they finally like just actually brought that stuff in. That's I think it'd be
very cool. I think Remedy is one of those studios that could make that
stuff very fun. Um I think Alan Wake two is differently exciting because I
think that series always should have been more of a survival horror now here it
is. Um YEA yeah, I liked I like that first game more than
I thought I would like. People like, oh, the combat gets really
competitive repetitive. Still, I always had fun shining doing Luigi's Mansion, but
with guns, I still enjoyed that. But you know, I'll be I'm
down for what Alan Wake two is doing. It looks like it's quality,
and hey, one of the few games with like a pretty solid release date
actually just October seventeenth, right around Halloween. Even Spider Man two somehow not
a specific release date yet, and I know they did that last time with
God of War. Also, I don't know if it's more because they're like
really like like cutting it close, or or it's because it's another marketing beat
for them to be able to say exactly when it's coming out, but it's
weird to not have an actual release date yet. Uh yeah. So I
think overall, I'm like I started at the at the end of the show
like a BB and like that was fine, and now kind of going back
looking at it, I'm definitely down into a C as well. And that's
like I think it's a pretty generous. Um. It's a generous yeah,
because it's like, uh, I could be harsher on this, but also
I'm not. I'm not here to watch showcases. I'm here to play games,
and if if I get in my hands on many of those games,
I bet the vast majority I'm gonna be very excited about. And then and
then there's stuff like Grandboo Fantasy, Real linkin whatever I mean, but like
there's that five night at Freddie's something something yep, uh yeah, exactly sure.
And then you know, God, I mean, this is the thing
where they had to like the break and we talked about fair games, but
Concord was there, uh not Haven, but um Firewalk game and it was
just like the most CGFCG trailers right, and it's the branding looked very cool.
I'm very I'm glad I can get excited about your font treatment. Yeah,
well, hey we've seen it's a pretty bad font treatment. It's so
good for you. Or what a foam Stars where X is making a splatoon?
My question for you is this there is this an NFT game? Jeff?
Are they gonna sell some people NFTs for foam Stars? A lot of
people are like going in that direction. Maybe, I mean it feels like
it would be a good vessel for that or like what they would think it
would be a good vessel for that. Um, but I don't know.
God, I hope not, I really hope not. I would I would
love nothing more than to get into Foam Stars and actually enjoy it, because
why not, I'll play a game that is inspired by by Splatoon that seems
totally like a good idea. Um, but wells, but Splatoon with hot
people. I thought they're already Oh we had Marina and Splatoon too, right
like that already He's just he's embarrassing himself now absolutely, Okay, Um,
yes, do you think Microsoft's gonna gonna You think they're in a position to
beat that now? Like before, if you asked me before, I would
be like, I don't know. There's no way Microsoft's gonna be able to
counter what Sony's gonna bring. There's so poise for a big showcase. Now
now I'm like, Microsoft could probably beat that. I think if Microsoft doesn't
beat this, Microsoft's just in trouble. I think you because they have so
many first party exclusives announced. If they were just to show a little bit
of something from most of those games, it would be a better showcase than
this, as long as it all looks pretty good in his gameplay. Um,
and if they don't have that, okay, but it's Microsoft, so
they could easily come up short, you know, I tweeted they put they
posted that that tweet about, uh hey, it looks like a bunch of
good games, you know, smirky face about finally getting revenge for that here's
how you trade games on PlayStation for a moment, seriously, and I was
like, I was totally like, yeah, of course they're doing that.
That's the thing that they should be doing. But then I'm like, I
was expecting less of this, meaning I was expecting Microsoft not to have the
opportunity to point that stuff out. And people got mad, But it was
like, I didn't mean it the way you thought it meant. Where I
was like, I wasn't expecting Microsoft to Yeah, I didn't. That might
have been on you. I don't think you think you should have word of
that more carefully, Mike. You're actually right, I should have, but
I wasn't. I was just like shooting it off. I was so,
yeah, you're probably wrangling your kids and you're just sitting out literally like all
my way out the door. Um, but whatever, I mean, it's
it's not a big guy. I explained that most people got it and big
deal, and you should stay up tonight thinking about that. That's not a
problem. Um uh yeah. But then it was just like Arthur Geese was
like, hey, well he write it that way the way that everyone else
did where it was like, you know, Microsoft is kind of gonna poke
the bear here and they always do this and their showcase comes around and it's
not as good as it as you think it's going to be based on their
confidence, and I'm like, yes, they always set the rakes in the
All they have to do is not step on the rakes. They've set this
rake in the front yard poking. Hey, all these games in your showcase.
You're also an Xbox cool do that as long as your showcase is better
than this. If it's not better than this, then shut the fuck up,
Friday, don't don't do that. But if you're doing it, I'm
assuming you're coming with the goods, and to be clearly, like the goods
needs to be more than just like Starfield, Forts and hell Blade, like
that is what I'm expecting, Like that's kind of like this, like yes,
of course I'm expecting Spider Man two to look good, Like that's the
kind of the bare minium and I know that's more games, but yeah,
I know, I look, I know Forts is going to be really pretty
that's great. Um, like Starfield, you can have a chance of while
because I'm still not entirely sure what that is. Hell Blade is rough for
me, Jack because you know, but I don't want to say I don't
care. It would take some convincing for me to get on board of hell
Blade. I did not care very much. I didn't like hell Blade.
It was not my kind of game. I think that first gameplay reveal whatever
that was looked pretty cool, just because it was so graphically impressive and very
Yeah, it's very pretty well pretty. It's not the word everybody was like
dirty and covered with blood. It's very high fidelity. That's exactly what it
was. And I'm like, okay, I mean, I'm probably not gonna
play it if it's gonna play like the last game, though, so we'll
have to wait and see. Xbox better be better than that. And if
it's not, then that that's all its own set of problems and we will
judge it accordingly. Um, I don't know. I will have to wait
and see. I think every time we get anyone gets their hopes up for
for Xbox, myself included, it's usually gonna come up short. I liked
the Showcase. What was it maybe two years ago? I thought that was
pretty good. I can't what was last year's I kind of can't remember what
they did last year? Uh, what what would they would they have even
shown last year? Was that when we got to see some more Starfield than
Redfall, like Woven Been, Yeah, I guess it must have been.
Yeah, I haven't released anything. Last year was twelve months. That's right.
Last year was everything's coming out in the next twelve months. And here
is Starfield, Forts and Red Fall and Silk Song and Silk Song and three
of those four didn't come out in twelve months. And uh, the one
that did well, oh boy, Hey, at least it's the biggest swop,
Like they should put that on the box. They should put that on
the box. It's better than year edition. Yeah, I mean, listen,
at least Gollum is GOADI Gollum of the Year. I stole that.
Whoever said that to me on Twitter? I stole it. I'm sorry.
I'll give you credit if you can let me know who you. I forgot.
It's Calm was fine. You thought Golm was gonna be okay, it
was gonna get seventy one or you amaze. I remember that. I remember
I said seventy one and then you came in lower than me because I had
to go first, and I got really mad at you did, because that
was talk about that matters. All that matters is the numbers. God number
seventy one, said sixty nine, because I looked at sticks and was like,
it's probably gonna be around sticks, maybe worse. You're just like the
sex number. Shut up, and I like the sex number, And that
means it's a strategy that works. It's a proven strategy. Man. We
had to play. You had to play an hour of Gone. I had
to watch. You need to you need to at least uh try it.
He is. Maybe I'll street. You don't have to. You don't even
have to play a lot of it. I just want you to see,
like how he controls. Okay, I haven't installed actually bananas. It is
so weird how it feels like Lucy described as he doesn't run, He gallops
and he just go go Gloucy and ye, he just like glumps forward and
it feels atrocious. It is a wildly bad game. Yeah, there's basically
nothing about it that looked good. But I was just floored at that extended
sequence where it's like, hey, it like the game makes you think you're
supposed to avoid some ring race and it actually knows you're that you're you can't
progress until they catch you. Like, oh okay, cool. I mean
it looks atrocious. It was having performance problems on your what did A but
that it was at ten eighty p though, and I had the all sets
on. It's there's no excuse. Uh, it's a really bad here,
Like I get a game's difficult. It doesn't all come together, and like
I like, look like obviously, like nobody here is a personal license game,
right is it? This just a classic license game? Is it worse?
This is extra, This is beyond that, especially especially these days,
license games are much better than this. But I mean I grew up in
the world where licensed games were always bad. I guess so, but yeah,
that was a long time ago. This is different. This is especially
agreed. And look, it's licensed, sure, but not in the way
that like, oh, we gotta rush us out to promote that new Gollum
movie that's coming out the same month. So I don't know, like in
the in a world where like the Harry Potter fans got like a pretty good
Harry Potter game and we get Gollum. You explain it to me, because
I was always, look, this looks fun. But I was based on
that under the assumption that Gollum would be a fun character to play as because
he's the one that can like go anywhere and doesn't have he has no a
bill. That's like he like he climbs like Spider Man in the in the
movies, and like he's always like sneaking around into places he's not supposed to
be. And I'm like, oh, that would be a cool character to
explore the world as because he could conceivably show up anywhere and get out of
anything. And and you can't like have a cool ranger like going into doing
things because it's like the whole idea is like, well's there's no way that
he would be like he would get noticed and doesn't always get noticed. But
when you were just like, I don't like it would still be cool to
be play as a ranger. Just make a game that makes sense for that.
And I'm like, yeah, okay, I I mean you play as
a ranger in those U Shadow of Mortal games. It's like fine things he
can play as Uh, I mean besides, anyway, he's like, don't
have goal and have Spider Man stuff. He can't just climb on everything.
It's still like uncharted, like climb on the highlighted Let deliver on any of
the imagined promise that I have that I thought for it. Obviously his abilities
are already limited and they still aren't really well represented. Did hear um it's
it's matting. Then you have stuff like the internal dialogue we have to convince
like Segel scenes are crazy first of all, but the choices are so obtuse.
And then uh, someone mentioned that the font is basically aerial, it's
aeal. Do you think that scene would have possibly played out any differently?
No matter what you did, you're gonna get caught by the ring ray thing
gets sent to jail. That's the next scene in the game. Yeah,
there's the one scene apparently where you're deciding like the Smiegel was like, no,
let the bird go where? And then it was a bug. Oh
yeah, the bug and go I'm was like, I want to eat the
bug. And it doesn't matter what you choose. Apparently it always gets away
the bug. It gets when you get caught by his nas school and then
you become a brit Like he's call him because a prisoner and they give him
like jobs. I'm not gonna like do tasks. What are you talking?
Yeah, it's basically he works for fiber. Now he's just gonna do a
task for you, task grabbit. Basically. Um, they gave him like
an identification car. Here's an inventory item for you. Gall them like what
are you talking about? Um? Yeah, and then it's uh, you
have just controls really bad. Um. There's a lot of segments where it's
very confusing where to go. I mean like there's normal bad game stuff in
here where like the camera's pointing over there. There is a ledge. I
guess it's not white, but I'm still gonna try. It's pointing there.
I'm because I'm gonna jump. It's like, oh no, I'm supposed to
point the camera up and it doesn't look like you can go up, but
you definitely can. It's like oh okay. And there's a lot of that
kind of stuff, or if you like, I'm climbing up a wall and
it just taught me I'm supposed to jump backwards, and so I'm climbing up
and I'm like, okay, see I'm supposed to go up and I try
to jump up and instead he jumps backward. It's just because they're like,
the game is kind of in that mode still, and it's just, uh,
it's weirdly girdly bad. Jeff. The game has fucking detective vision.
Yeah, yeah, my god, and we like, um, you're right,
we haven't passed half for the most problem. Listen. I think it
makes sense in some games. Uh, social games, they have a lot
going on. I'm like hit Man, Uh, there's so much going on
in that world. I would like assess it quickly. Yeah. No,
I mean it makes sense for some games, especially hit Man. Or it's
kind of fun because you can see your target from like you know, across
this giant map and stuff, and that's basically what that's for. That's what
I use it for. But God's and it looks terrible too, Like when
you use it you have like this garish white blinding stuff and then like bushes
become red. I don't know, it's it's just a mess. I have
no idea what we're wrong there. I you know, it was already delayed
a long time. I guess they're like, look, we're not going to
delay this again and maybe gratefully. So what are you gonna do? I
could have done the Tears of the Kingdom thing, delay it for a year
for Polish. Do you think a year of Polish would help here? Oh?
Yeah, that would have made a game of the year. That would
have helped right right right along there, Jeff, we got a bunch of
super chats. Thick is so much everybody who's watching live I appreciate. Let's
let's do those and then we'll take a break and then we'll get to our
second segments. That sound good. Sounds great to me. All right,
let's take those super chats right now. Rioto Otto says, I feel bad
for the gum does because I liked their point and click to Ponia games from
the twenty tens. Do you think Prince of Persia remake ever releases? So
that's the thing where the Ubisoft said that Prince of Persi remake is still in
the conceptual he got rebooted back to the conceptual face at Montreal. It's already
rebooted. Yep. I know. We just had a question not too long
ago, like, hey, what what do you think comes out first?
The Cotour remake or the Prince of Persia remake. Boy, is that a
race of the bottom? Yes, said, and that also happened this past
week u Lar's wing of First My Boy over Embracer, CEO of Embracer group
was asked by investors, Hey, what's going on with nights with the Old
Republic remake? And he said, oh, my favorite question, and then
the transcriptor says he was visibly annoying. He says, chuckles kind of annoyingly
and then doesn't answer, And then what's going for it? Is like someone
was He was about to say more, and then the like someone whoever was
asking the question started talking again, and so he didn't he stop. We
were we're about to get out some info about this thing. To me,
that says, I don't think my intuition about it was right. We're probably
never going to see that fucking thing. I'd be surprised me. If we
do, it will not be the thing that was promised. It will be
some smaller version of it. I think maybe, Well, it sounds like
the metal gres solid delta of snake Eater thing is going to be kind of
close to a one to one thing. They're they're talking on a way in
Twitter that moments makes it sound like they're just going to use the original like
audio files and stuff like that, and that kind of limits you in a
way that like they're not when they do like the resime of A four remake
where they got a whole new cast, they have a whole new scrap,
you can kind of do different things. So let's they kind of like prepare
me for what the scope of Snake Eater might be. And maybe that's more
what we're going to get the codes were now instead of like, hey,
let's turn coats were into something that's like on the scale of a which or
three. Maybe it is just we're going to pretty it up a bit.
JR. Eighty eight says Jim Ryan is don Matric with a British accent.
That's not true, they are he has proved. Yeah, he's been in
charge of Sony Europe for a very long time and they've dominated in Europe and
he deserves some credit for that stuff. A lot of it's just like,
yeah, we know you're the number one Jim Ryan fan. This is like
terribly biased from you, Jeff, come on, I I just think the
big difference is that obviously Jim Ryan has like led PlayStation to success, Don
Matrick did not leave Xbox to success exactly. Blake and Merritt says, all
right, what do you think happened? Jeff? I know you said this
PlayStation show was supposed to be late last year, but studios weren't ready to
show games. But they really didn't show much and what they did was CG.
Yeah. I mean, we've tried to talk it out a little bit.
I mean, I guess I think a lot of the games that we're
talking about from those studios they didn't show up those big studios. I think
a lot of those games are probably going to be ready in the next year
or two to come out, if you know, and even then like like
maybe like three years. I think it's just like making an asset super annoying
and they didn't want to do it. I think it's that simple. Yep,
let's see here now. Jack Eg says, Jeff Twitter DMG, sorry
about Code Tour Drama hearts. I don't think he's so you get to go
look for that DM right now. But I did see. I did see
it, and it was just the thing on on Reddit. Is Jack the
one that asked about codetur or no, I think you might have been the
one that posted on Reddit that I said that is never going to come out,
and I was saying I was speculating, and I am still speculating.
I don't think we ever see that thing. But that's a guess. I
don't know. I have no inside information. We feel that one in our
hearts, yes, I feel that with the force, yeah, and our
bones nintended therek says god Or last year at spider Man, this year,
Sony announcing release dates at the last moment is starting to seem more like a
pattern. Is this part of their business strategy? For some reason, I
asked this question earlier, what do you think, Jeff? Can you say
again? Amy was coffid. I was just checking on her. Yeah,
so Sony announcing the release dates at the last moment is starting to like seem
like a business strategy. Is that is that true? Yeah? I think
so. I think that they. I think a long time ago now,
we talked about on this show that a bunch of announcements got kind of because
the pandemic pushed really late, and a lot of people are like, are
we sure we couldn't announce it now? And they did, and they didn't
see any negative ramifications from that, where it's like we announced it two months
out and everything still sold like really good or better than we thought, and
just as well as if we would have had a twelve month marketing cycle.
Why are we wasting marketing budget on the twelve month marketing cycles when we could
be just as effective with a two month marketing cycle. And it's like,
okay, that's let's just go in that direction. So everybody's going in that
direction because it saves them a ton of money. Yosemite Blam says, for
Mike, now throw your hands in the air and wave them like you just
don't care. There you I was doing that in the intro a bit.
It's fun. I like it, thank you. Edgar Marino says, can
you explain Japan's studios me? Why did they close down? They made all
of my favorite games growing up? Yeah, because Japan doesn't matter to Sony
anymore. I mean I wrote I wrote that story unventured b games Beat six
years ago, like a long time ago. Now, sure they the PlayStation
does not sell as well as it used to. It's as PlayStation four in
PlayStation five did pretty well, But look at that software chart PlayStation five is
selling decently in Japan. But look at the software chart. It is thirty
games and two three of them are PlayStation games and the rest are switch the
place. Japan doesn't matter to Sony anymore, not in the way it used
to. I mean sure, maybe a little bit. Jim Ryan does an
interview where he tell us Famitsu why it still matters. The proof is not
on the pudding. They have a team of Sooby and they have Poliphody Digital
in Japan, and that's it. And Timasobe does their tech demos for PSVR
and the new consoles and hasn't really had a chance to do their big own
game yet. Maybe they're working on it now. I thought we would have
seen it though if they were. And then Poliphody Digital just does grantism,
grant ros, grant arismo. That's all they have in Japan terms development of
first party. If they want to get something else, they just go and
make a third party deal with with Square Nix and let be their external research
and development team. Japan doesn't matter to Sony. Attend on the Otaku says
Fantom Blade zero looked like it played itself. I mean, it's somebody was
a kind of nod into it. I don't. I don't know if that's
entirely fair. I mean, I'm sure it's plays like a soul's like maybe
a bit more button mashing than that. I could go for a little bit
more button mashing though, to be honest. Yeah, I think there should
be a spectrum of those kinds of games. M d Y says, going
into it, I kept hearing the narrative Sony held back doing a showcase for
so long because first party games weren't ready seem that's still true. I mean,
yeah, maybe a lot of stuff is just further away than we even
thought, Jeff yep. And it's uh, and that's entirely possible because these
games are taking longer than ever and it's I think it's possible that we are
just in the middle where it's taking these studios a long time to reload.
And also it's just probably harder to make the games they want to make in
general, because they aren't seeing that that that return on investment be less into
each time they go out, that diminishing return because you know, God of
War can't just be God of War three, It's got to be something even
bigger, Like how do you make a fucking bigger game than God to War
Ragnarok, And we're getting Spider Man two, and it already is feeling like,
yeah, it's spider Man, and listen, I love Spider Man,
but it's Spider Man. It's kind of how a lot of people felt about
that that demonstration. So that's they have to keep turning it up. And
at a certain point, Sony is running out of places to turn it up
to because they've already had production value so high in so many ways. I
don't know how they get more expensive, And it's not like the like the
new consoles just like inherently present these ways for like the games to get bigger
or to feel different like they used to. I mean, you know we
saw that with God of War. They're like, we're making two of these
and then we got to do something different. And like I wonder if this
is going to be the last Spider Man game for a little bit, or
if they are just going to kind of trudge along here. I mean,
they're already doing Ooverine. Maybe they'll be good to just again find ano they're
a superhero to turn two for a bit before, especially because we're you know,
usually they play that symbiod Venom card, when it's like, well,
we did like the other stuff, what's the one big card? We can
play Venom again, carnage, I can get desperate and I'm here, I'm
for it. Keep playing the Venom card. But sure, but also it
feels like, well what do you do, Like, what's the big thing
after Venom? I don't know, Um, well, Craven the Hunters there
not even more important and I will not hear anymore of your Craven the Hunters
slander. You know what incredible villain. You know what I like was remember
it like reading some of those early comics of Craven and he actually he does
own You're right, you guys, Yes that's my stuff. Like I love
those early sixty comics and like crave. You are right that what I thought.
I'm like, you know what that I got that book right back there.
It's it's very he's good in those books, know what, Jeff,
that's very big of you. You get a gold star. But thank you
very much. I appreciate you're the one that like said, like, hey
go read thoseirst hundredth by do my comics. I'm like, well, I'm
like yeah, okay, and then I did. It's clear why that character
became a big deal. Like, oh, actual like initial run of Spider
Man from the sixties rules it is. Yeah, it's the one where even
like DC fanboys are like, I aren't read any Marvel except for Spider Man,
and it's like every single one of them are like that, Yeah,
I get it you real quick. You mentioned like like the console doesn't automatically
enable like these games to be better. It's like, yeah, the hardware
limitation is not a thing anymore. It is time and money and it's budget
and that's Columns a PlayStation five. It was like one of the column was
one of the first games that was announced for quote next gen systems, what
differences? What does that even mean anymore? It does not get any difference.
Ye, it's nothing, Eli Phillips says a question, Slash'd love to
hear your thoughts on if the controllers screen talking about that PlayStation remote play thing,
is it one hundred to two hundred dollars dues? Who has expandable income
for one over a Steam deck? I mean there's a lot of people who
are gonna buy things that have a PlayStation brand on it as opposed to a
steam brand on it, right, Yes, yeah, absolutely, I mean
there's a built in audience for those things, and uh yeah, I don't
I think so. For Sony, it's like they want to do stuff like
this, but it's you know, yeah, there will be people who show
up for it, but we'll see. Next one here is from m d
y again, thank you anyone. The WIU Basic Edition launched at three hundred
US dollars and the Deluxe Edition at three hundred and fifty dollars was the over
under that project que releases at a higher price made if it's higher than three
hundred or three fifty, that's gonna be that's nuts. Like three hundred has
to be the ceiling. And it seems like that's pretty expensive. It's higher
than three hundred, that's kind of incredible. Yeah, I'm like the Sony
have any Android tablets anymore? I'm kind of wondering, like what those are
priced at Sony Android tablet. They probably haven't had one in years. Who
has some Zeria play he's saying, is that what that was? The Experia
There was the Experia Play, which is like the phone and stuff. This
is I have no idea what this experia Z four tablet, what year it's
from, and this spectas is not giving me a price, but I guess
I can look that up. But I could easily see it being three hundred
three fifty. Like I said, higher than that it is criminal and insane.
Even just even just higher than three hundred seems insane to me. But
we'll see. Cool. Francis nineteen says, Hey, guys, would you
expect Xbox to have a big show in wake of Sony's shortcoming of a show?
Also? Would you expect up to updates to Fable and games that were
revealed and that big twenty twenty show Part one? I mean, whatever Microsoft
does, it can't at this point really be much of a reaction to what
Sony did. What they have is basically locked down at this point, I
imagine, Yeah, it was lockdown months ago, yes, yeah. And
then in terms of Fable, I mean, Jeff, you've been saying that
there's been roadblocks that nothing catastrophic. Maybe typical roadblocks, but maybe Fable is
not in a position where they have much to show us right now. There's
definitely development difficulties with the road. I was gonna say roadblocks because I heard
you say, road to blocks with Fable. There's definitely issues with Fables development.
I think it's stuff that will be solved in not worth panicking and get
anxiety is over. But if it doesn't show up there, people will have
those anxieties anyhow. And yeah, there's there's problems for sure. Suddenly,
Oh, Edwards says, suddenly Xbox is twenty twenty three not looking so bad.
If they show up with Starfield Forts and hell Blade, is that a
better year than PlayStation? I mean, there's no guarantee hell Blades this year,
and I'd be honestly almost surprised if it was. Yeah, don't you
feel like, oh, this is going to be at least somewhat of a
repeat of the Sony show where we go into it and it's like, well,
Forts and Starfield games that we knew were coming out this year are the
ones that are coming out this year, and everything else is a nebulous maybe
later this year and probably next year, things like that. But I mean,
I guess like the point of like, hey, let's say Michael,
let's say Xboxes year was granted, Redfall was bad, Hey, son he
had a four spoken not as bad but not great. But then Microsoft also
had Hi Fi Rush, Starfield, and Fortsa. And if like Starfield,
like forts is probably gonna hit, right, that's been a very reliable Francis
for a long time. Let's say Starfield does hit like we're hoping it does,
maybe that will be better than Sony's for spoken Fancy. Yeah, I
think it's a bit of a bad man, but it's a bit of a
wash maybe. Yeah, it's like a give or take, like we're,
you know, pick and choose which one has the games you want. But
that's way better than xboxes last there. Um, if that's where they're at,
that have them. Fine. I hope that the Xbox has significantly more
than that, but I don't think it's realistic expect anything beyond hell Blade,
and even hell Blade, like you said, very unlikely. Benji Bob says,
when can we start blaming Herman Holtz for mismanaging first party studios? People
love to say the same thing to Microsoft when their first party doesn't show up.
The problem is that when the games come out from Sony, they're they're
they're well regarded. I mean that's not been the case for Microsoft. Sometimes
they come out and they're red full right, like just like up to this
point, like the first party offerings on Place to Survive had been much better
than on Xbox series. Yeah, and even like even if like we include
those that the third party or I'm sorry, the games that went to Sony.
Uh, there was Death Loop, a game that I think is very
good, and then there's also Ghosquire Took, a middling game. So yeah,
you know what I could have used. It's just something that like excited
me at this PlayStation showcase, like Ratchen and Clint rift Apart did, which
just tell to me, like the most next gen game we've got on either
of these consoles and very up there. But yes, I'm a Ratche and
Clint. Yeah, like god, I mean even almost maybe literally, I
wish there was another like high end a three D platformer that would be exciting.
Yeah. Yeah, it's gotta be more affordable to make than a lot
of these other games, right, it's got Yeah, pretty dude, says
people blaming Xbox or Sonny not showing anything because they don't have to try.
It's wild to me, why would you not push the advantage you have that
is not that doesn't make any sense. Sony is not really thinking about,
well, I mean, they definitely want to put the boot to the Xbox's
throat, but the reason they make their decision is decisions is to maximize PlayStation's
revenue, to maximize every single dollar into profit that they can. That is
obvious in every choice that they are making right now. And the way that
you build on that momentum PlayStation five right now is have a great showcase that
people can't stop talking. There's no way they're feeling good about. I mean,
maybe they're oblivious. I don't think so. I know, Sony could
be arrogant sometimes. I think they're pretty tapped in. I think they know
the show is received poorly, and I bet they are are formulating strategies to
build on that. And it has nothing to do with worrying about what Xbox
does. I mean, if Xbox comes out and has a great show and
that puts the pressure back on Sony, yeah, I'm sure they'll respond in
kind. But but they are more worried about maintaining this this brand momentum that
they've built that Jim Ryan talked about in that chart or whatever, and that's
what they're actually focused on. Benjie Bop says breaking NSO News Super Mario Advanced
one through three are live great. People made fun of me for being really
mad about this at the top of the ten dogs. Yet I love it.
I love it, especially the Mario Advance one with like the Growth League,
decent Super Mario Brothers to remake whatever for yos The Island and Mario World.
Those are just the worst versions of those Super Nintendo games. There's there's
no point to them anymore. Yeah, I mean, I know they're zoomed
in and that's definitely worse. There's zoomed in and the audio qualities worse,
and like I know, Yoshi's Island they replaced like the Yoshi Noises with just
the Yoshi story, like Yoshi like in, I don't want that in that
game. I don't. It's worse Nintendon the AUTOCTA says. PlayStation Fanboys said
Sonny weren't affected by the pandemic, while they put out safe sequels and remakes,
only one big IP game in twenty twenty three. Uh this this emoji.
Um, I don't know. I mean, honestly, like, I'm
just so uninterested in like the people who like say, well, I want
I'm gonna clap back at the places fanboys at the Xbox fan BOLLI is now.
Especially we've had a whirlwind Jeff in recent months of being called them at
different points, like guys, I promise called them, but like being like
the enemy number one for each run group, like in their reddits and then
coming in our comments and just like showing up and being weird and yeah,
pretty sick of it. Yeah, they're they're they're they're both real, and
you're both like they're both definitely searching for things to criticize about the other one,
but they are also just both doing it. You should just ignore it.
You should just move on. Yep, but thank you for the super
chess need to be coming at you attend on but like it's just like but
like really it's it doesn't matter. Yeah, oh, Gregg says, how
are you all feeling about Final Fantasy sixteen? I like the combat, but
I completely agree with Jan about it on Game This Mornings, the dialogue seems
off to me, I'll sell. Yeah, you guys just really picking apart
my darlings on the Games Mornings to day, you know, he said,
And I'm like, you know, I don't know, because I this feels
like a game. I have to play. I've said a lot of games,
but I think that's also true of Final Fantasy to sixteen. I gotta
see how that combat feels in my hands. You said it feels good,
and I kind of trust you in that. But like when I just watch
the trailer, it's I do kind of mostly my brain turns off and I'm
like, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be getting out of this.
It's very overwhelming to a certain extent. I mean, I am certainly at
a point where I'm kind of like overseeing Final sixteen trailers, like I get
that, like, yeah, now this games come out real soon. We've
seen a lot of it. I get it. They are, they are
marketing it a lot, and hey, that's good. They have faith in
it or they have expectations go for But I do. I still think it
looks good. I mean, my big thing is and it's the same criticism
I head for like Latsto's part two, I think, like a revenge story,
it's kind of like a basic starting point where your narratively right. I
hope they go to way more interesting places. I expect them to. Yeah,
me too, but no, I'm so very much into it in it
I am excited, but it's like again, like it's showing up here.
It's like street Fight or six showing up here. Like yeah, like we're
gonna be playing this soon, right, even though like proptly sixteen is an
exclusive, so that's nice. It's like so soon. It was exciting to
kind of see it like six months ago or last year, but now it's
like that at this point, it really is just a commercial for the thing
coming out in a week. Oh. Greg says, Also a nice,
nice boomer pick in the draft, mic He says, calling it shot.
I hope, I hope something gets called a boomer pick because we're drafting like
the new consoles now, just the current general spoiler warning, something's gonna get
called a boomer that'd be incredible and I can't wait. Connal Wood asks Odds
that Square uses NFTs in Foam Stars. I mean they didn't come out and
say it, like their other NFT game is so egregiously an NFT game that
it's comical, but like also it's boy, Like, if you said,
hey, what's a game you can ape to just cheaply throw some NFTs on
it? Boy, would Splatoon be a good choice for that? Yeah?
The only one other one that would be better is animal Crossing than they probably
don't feel like they can pull off an animal crossing hard. Yes, so
I guess we'll see. I'm gonna say it's probably not, but it's squaring
it so I won't be surprised when it turns out I'm wrong. Victor Mariness
says a pairing of Help Blade Slash Avowed or Perfect Dark Slash Fable or the
expectations at this point, along with Contraband in State of the Case, prettyquel
in if I saw two of those games, if I saw a Vowed,
if like we actually had a real show, and I think that's what and
then this is just guessing everybody. I think that's relatively likely that we'll see
a Vowed. So I want to see Avowed because, like, I like
Obsidian a lot. I liked it a lot when Obsidian made their Fallout.
I'm kind of very excited to see what Obsidian's Elder Scrolls is going to look
like. Basically, definitely, Yes, I still think it's very far away,
but I bet we see an update on it, and that'd be that
would be very cool. Anyway, I think if two of those games listed
come come at the show and get a decent gameplay showing. That'll be exciting.
If we take perfect Dark, what are the chances of that? Probably
better than Fable right now, right probably probably better than Fable. It's I
think it's still relatively low, but not like impossible. That would be very
cool if they could show that off and it looks great. Uncharted Wolf says,
I feel like the showcase would It would have been well liked if it
shaved off ten minutes. It was called a state of play. The PlayStation
Showcase heard it. Yeah, but even if it was a state of play,
it's it would have been a thing of Man, it's been a while
since we had a PlayStation and showcase. What's going on? They kind of
like had to do a PlayStation showcase. It's been so long. It's just
weird that we this is what we got with it. Yep, definitely,
swirly Play says. Swirly Plays says, what uh what if? To go
along with the launch of the Twisted Metal Show in July August, they had
the original trilogy the place you should plus premium feels like a good move.
Um excuse me, um. They pushed my glasses up. Well, actually
it was a quadrilogy that were far Twisted Metal games on the original PlayStation.
So there, yeah, you feel better about yourself. Well, I mean,
look, i'd be most people I think would be fine if it was
just Twisted Metal two and Black. I think that would really cover most basics.
I mean, how just yeah, yeah, just just just remake Black
or two and that'd be fine. What they should do is they should do
um at least what Tech and seven did, and have all of the Indians
in a showcase mode so you could just watch them all, like, so
we could do our ranking of tech and endings, which we really we really
want to do, but we're having trouble finding like a YouTube playlist that has
them all. We didn't talk about it, but it is cool. So
you know, we're getting Solid one, two and three coming digital again,
which is nice. I like those games a lot. I like those original
versions. It's the HD versions of two and three that's good. But it's
nice that they say volume one there. Yeah, so like, I don't
know exactly what it'll be in a volume two, but to me, that's
basically saying four. It's got to have four. It'll probably have four and
peace Walker and like naybe portable ops sure way less likely acid and acid too,
But but peace Walker and four probably just peace Walker and four to be
on probably and I'll take that. That's cool. Yeah cool. Simmons to
a chance of blood Board two remaster ever happening blood Board two or remaster ever
happening? Well, I think blood blood Born two happens eventually. Yeah,
but from Software is very busy, and uh, I think Bandy Namco is
probably like really ponied up the cash to keep them working on the games that
that they're associated with instead of having the games that uh let's instead of opening
up an opportunity for Sony kind of coming and swoop away some of their time.
Um, but I still think Bloodborn tune happens. A Bloodborn remaster also
feels like it has to happen. But that boy, those odds are deminishing
every single day. It also feels like it should have happened. And I
think we know baby why because uh yeah, you know outering was this giant
hit and you know from Software wants to be involved with that. Hey from
Software should just say, actually you can do it, so you can get
that game running at sixty fps yourselves or whatever. Yeah, maybe, and
I bet Sony still very much wants to do that. I callum asks.
Do you know when like a Dragon Guiden releases? Do is that not?
Which one's like a Dragon Guidan? Because that that period piece one did come
out? What was that that was like a Dragon issue? It's like a
Dragon Guiden. I can't remember exactly, um, because there is like a
like a Dragon eight coming out and that's yeah, like a Dragon Guide and
the man who erased his name is coming out in twenty twenty three according to
this um you see they delayed Homeworld three just like a little bit ago,
supposed to be the first half of this year and now it's twenty twenty four.
And is that from um that Embracer? I don't think so may embraced
sad Embracer. I thought that was from the studio that's under Saga. Now,
um that is Embracer the layoffs, right, that's what I thought,
But maybe it's not. Maybe they used to work on that series and they
don't anymore. I could I probably off. Oh right, gearbox, that's
right, Gearbox which is under Embracer they bought home. Yeah that's right.
Okay, So there's that whole chain of stuff that happened over there. Oh
well, I know a guy. I know a guy. It means Sean.
I like, uh, I like the Homeworld back in the day.
I haven't played one or forever. My brother lake Homeworld back in the day,
and you're closer to his age. I was like a little young for
it, and it seemed very complex to me. Yes it was. It
was like, oh and so much. Yeah, it's like, this is
what this is what PC gaming is? This in civilization You're I'll tell you
what it was very much a this is what PC gaming is. You can
never happen on a console. Yes, hell yeah. Blake Merritt says,
chances of biggest Sony stuff at Summer game Fest, I would say zero.
It's not like they're holding back for Summer game Fest. There's no way Sony's
name is on that list of like people who are participating in Summer game Fest.
But it's Jeff Keeley. That could mean anything. I don't know so
I but I think Mike's right in term of biggest stuff is zero. Yeah,
GM had a super chat. I think you had that one ready.
What did he have? He wants me to play um a outcast song for
you, which we will do, and maybe I'll at least say it's like
a bonus thing for patreons. We can't do it here. We'll get the
money. Yeah, YouTube gets very mad about that stuff. So we'll do
that more and I'll make sure that you get to see a jam. Don't
worry, Dead Planet says Jeff. Can you cut the tension and say whether
or not you anticipate Xbox's first party presence and their show to be stronger than
PlayStations was yesterday? I don't know. I'm not gonna pretend like I have
insight into that. I haven't really been looking. I've been pretty busy with
doing my own planning my own stuff for game Summer game Fest, and then
uh trying to make stuff happen it with like interviews and things like that,
and that's sticking all my time. I'm not sitting here kind of hitting a
pavement trying to like figure out what's going to be in the show. And
a big part of that is we talk over the shows at Giant Bum and
I've discovered that people really hate it when we like say what the game is
before the game says it. Itself, and so I'm trying that one that
one guy said he hated that and everybody told him to fuck off. Jeff.
I know that I've seen him even before him, and I was even
before like it was just a reminder. I was like, couldn't tell myself
to not do that so much because I remember saying that to myself long long
before I saw that comment. Um, and so it's like, but people
want to be surprised and watch along for a lot of people. Do I
know that one person got shut shut down? But um, yeah, I
don't know, and I'm not going to sit here and try to. And
I haven't spoiled the Jeff. I haven't spoiled Xbox showcase in years. Even
though I've I've known a lot of stuff. I try to just say what
won't be in there this year. I've not even really like done the work
to find out what's in there. If I hear it, I might do
that thing where it's like, hey, don't expect this, but I'm not
going to help you beyond that too much. Reggie Butler says, Hi,
guys, big fan of the show, Thank you, Reggie. I would
like to know how these shows are put together. How do they choose what's
show and what's not. I think this showcase was rough and didn't need to
be an hour long. You have some insight into that, Jeff. How
are these shows put together? What is that process? Like? It is?
It's a whole mess of people work like trying to make deals happen.
It's it's it's like stuff like Herman Holst going to every studio for first party.
It is a lot of meetings with third parties. I think it's a
lot of handshake agreements. That's a lot of co marketing deals. It's it's
it's every piece of possible tool in their arsenal coming to bear. Because these
are massive undertakings. They really are a lot of stuff. That's a lot
of work to plan them. So, but there's no like one answered how
many of these things happen? It's different from Game to Get. Phil Spencer
says, ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. How does it feel?
I like the Whenever I read how does it feel? I always read
it as like Bob Dyling, Hey do you feel been your run? They
get complete Anne, they get reading stains. How do you like? By
Bob del I? A lot it's pretty good actually, thank you. Yeah,
definitely. Yeah. One time I was in the Rock and Roll Hall
of Famy Cleveland, which I gotta take you two, still you two.
At some point maybe my friends were like all over there. We were there's
like a Bob Dying like area. You ever, like go to a museum
with a person and it's like that miserable thing where they are really interested in
something but like you're not. But you're kind of like stuck in that area
with them because they're like reading every little thing, and you know, I'm
like, I'm a good person. I hate it, but like I just
being my friends just basically started just screaming at each other and Bob Dylan's voice
the entire time to a muser. So we still do it to each other
to this day. This was probably like twenty years ago. Es says,
You've done a little bit of disservice to hell Blade. Audio mechanic and story
were incredible and gave one of the most emotional endings I can remember. I
mean, look, most people do agree with you. Means were odd ones
out on hell Blade. It just didn't do much for us, right,
Yes, yeah, that's just anything away from it, but just for me,
like, yeah, that was a not for me game. That is
not all. They shouldn't have made this game, no, exactly, and
they should absolutely like go bigger for a sequel, and I'm sure it's going
to do well, but it's just agree that's just kind of a personal thing
where it's like I'm not doing a whole lot for me, and it wasn't
like, oh, I'm against this this game having the emotional elements or its
storytelling and just didn't I didn't enjoy playing it. Connal Wood says, how
screwed his embrace or without that investment. Yeah, so there was something about
they were screwed anyhow. That investment was an excuse. That's what certain Toto
was absolutely right about that, where it's just like, oh, we didn't
get that two billion dollars deal, so things are bad. It's like,
no, things are bad. And also they didn't get the two billion dollars
deal that would have maybe fix some stuff, I guess, but things were
just bad because they've made poor choices. This is a company that it seems
to have made a lot of bad decisions about how to run the business,
and to the point where they have a game that sold two million copies with
Dead Island two, and that should be a huge success. It should be
like pushing the entire company forward, and it's not even close to being enough
for them. That's the problem, not the deal falling through eas So you're
telling me just buying like a million game studios was probably a bad idea.
Yes, I think that they thought they would have some other thing on the
other side of that in that time that didn't like actually pan out, and
then the clock ran out of them as the economy changed, and now they're
pretty much boned. Okay, then well that's depressing, and then max a
million, O Carrion says, considering that the remake of the Last of Us
was shown on Key three and Checkerman himself teased factions too, but they doubled
down on that and reveal it there. I mean, Last of Us remake
was shown on Key three, but that was because they didn't do a showcase
that right for whatever reenacting. So it would be so weird to me if
they don't show factions on their show to instead show it on Kiley's Thing,
that would be bizarre. Yep, I agree, I think it'd be weird.
I suppose it's not out of the roma possibility, you know. But
hey, if I'll say I don't think it's going to be there, and
if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, I mean throw Keiley a bone. You
don't have to give them the whole doghouse exactly right. I mean you if
you do what everyone else has been doing, you do a CG trailer for
Mortal Kombat one and then you give a gameplay to Keiley. If that's what
you're doing, that's fine. You just say that that's what you're doing.
Just give them another space game like last year. This year it's going to
be all farming games. We're going back to farming. Do you believe it's
almost been one year since Enjoy your gaming? Because it feels like a much
longer ago than it feels like it's always been with us, that's been with
us since the beginning. It feels like we're making bad Enjoy your gaming jokes
for a very Hey, what's up there the top right of our thing?
Our top left? Excuse me? Enjoy your gaming? There? It is?
Yeah, we co opted that. We did it. It's about correct
clean Now look at that, um all right, that's it. That was
a lot of super chats everybody. There's a lot of first time, first
time ees. We'll call him first time me. That sounds like that sounds
the rock story, a lot of first timers. Thank you all so so
much. We appreciate it. If you still want to send it in a
super chat, we will read it before the end of the show. But
Jeff, I think it's time for a little breaky break and then we'll come
back with some games. Yeah, we're gonna take a quicker break. We'll
be right back after this. All right, Mike, thanks for prefer asking
all those super chats, helping everybody out with those. We are going to
get into our big decision topic for the week, which is another console draft.
We've come to the end of the home consoles. We are now on
the current generation, and we're gonna choose between the Nintendo Switch games, Xbox
Series X and S, and PlayStation five. We have here the Mike Station
five and the Xbox series. Jeff, let's be clear, like we generally
understand like some of these games are cross platform with older generations. We know
It's ones are most fisiciliated with the witch Bread for the walls off the table
because you got cute and picked that last time as a wee U game,
which I didn't think should count. But here we are said something at the
time. I mean I did say something at the time. I remember any
of that. Okay, you didn't seem to think it would be much of
a problem at the end when you were so confident and got us, which
means it's your first, your first. This time around, it's all you
bikey, do you want to go first? It doesn't ever seem to help
you, except for maybe that one time. Yeah, I do want to
go first, because this time I do think there's a pretty good number one
pick and it's out and ring, so they're okay, wow, that's a
really good one. All right, it's a great first bick, isn't it.
Yes, it is, absolutely. I'm worried because that didn't immediately occur
to me. Now I'm like, oh man, am I like not thinking
and don't forget chat no suggestions please, Yes, um, I'm people looking
at it too much. Okay, shit, that's really good. Um Okay.
I I think I'm gonna go with the one that I think has the
most appeal to the people in our community. I'm gonna go a super smash
Brothers Ultimate. I know that there's games that I think and I think that's
the right choice. I do think that's the right choice. Man, you're
gonna be able to there's some good ones here that you can come back.
And I'm so mad because i feel like I've already won it and I'm still
gonna lose somehow because I'm just gonna pick Tears of the Kingdom. Now,
Oh, man's that's what you can pick. Tears in the Kingdom Jesus,
all right, Tears of the Kingdom. All right, I've voted a ring
of Tears of the Kingdom. I don't. Yeah, I know you're probably
you're probably it's gonna I'll lose somehow. It's gonna be incredible. I'm gonna
super Mario Odyssey. Uh. I thought that's what you're gonna pick. That's
what I would have picked the next Yeah, but it's not up there now.
Um crap. Now it's like, okay, now I need to think
for a little bit. Now we've really got some big boys going all over
the place. Um shit, Okay, Now I'm not gonna I don't want
to throw it away in like a sub oh oh uh. Animal crossing knew
her. Okay, that's that's fair. I think that's a good one.
I think it's a little bit higher than what I would have picked up,
but I still think it's a good one. Like it's not like a bad
choice by any stretch of the imagination. All right, um boy, this
is this is tough. Man. I wish I would have remember those.
Of course, of course you're gonna get that. Um. I don't know
if this is tough because now, man, I really hate that I didn't
think about either of those games at first, and I'm like, I'm pretty
sure got an odor ring. No, I know, in terms of the
Kingdom, no idea, I should have picked Heres of the Kingdom. Yeah,
Um, I don't know. I don't think Smash Brothers is some bad
pick, but you get compared to you, No, it's definitely not.
I would have definitely have also picked it pretty high. Yes, um man,
I don't know because I'm like worried about overlooking things. Um, okay,
so we have PlayStation five, and yeah, I guess I could start
going for some of those. Um some of those yeah, well, I
mean like some of their like they're they're big ones there. I guess I'll
go with God of War Ragnarok. I guess that doesn't feel great. Yeah,
you sound really confident and happy about that. I don't. I don't
feel I don't feel good about any of these anymore. Did we pick haties
last time? Is haities not? And I don't even think it was on
those systems now that I think about it, Well, no one's say anything
that. Look, I had it much. Yeah, so don't worry.
Um hmm okay some yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. I'm trying to
think here, trying to clear my mind. It's just harder because like this,
these two the concert been around that long's and there's like a bunch of
like ones I'm like kind of thinking about, and I'm just like, they
don't seem quite good enough for number four, and I'm panicking. Then there's
like one that I do really like, and I know our community just wasn't
quite as easy. Right, That's that's tough, right exactly. Like I'm
thinking about a lot of those, honestly, and that's very frustrating. Yeah,
God, I think I'm actually just gonna do it. I think I
think maybe those are loud voices because I don't feel like it's actually the best
of the exclusives or either PlayStation five or Xbox Series X. Uh So,
yeah, I'm gonna go Ratchet Clake with apart. Okay. I can't actually
think of a better game than that right now. I know the Honestly,
that's what I was thinking as well, and I was frustrating because I know
our communities kind of shit. Heeads about that art. Um, okay,
I'm gonna go with I think resume before remake. Shit, you don't even
like it. I do like it, I just don't have the urge to
appreciate it. Yeah, I hear Jimmy, I'm not right listen to Jimmy.
I don't hear Jimmy. That's yeah. Um okay, so so far
far. Audio listeners Mike Scott, Elden Rink. Here's The kingam Antal Crossing
and Ratchet Clake a very good list. I have Super se there's Ultimate Super
Mario. Honestly, Godda where Ragnarock and Resume before remake a decent list.
Um okay, okay, okay. Uh m hmm. This is I think
this is kind of when this is interesting. Can we do games that like
can we do like live service games this time around? Because because because we
don't have a full generation, do you think that we could fill it out
with some of the live service games? I mean, like I had to
hear what you're talking about. Also, like be of this. You can't
say Fortnite this time? Why really? Because because I because that started and
the last generation is when it was real, but it's but they're so updated
in these generations that come on. No way, Okay, what if it's
like something like a big expansion. What do you mean? But it's not
my turn. I'm just give me Like I'm not gonna give it away because
I don't want you to take it. I mean, I just I feel
like wherever you're going with, I'm not gonna I'm not going to agree with
it right now, is what I'm thinking. I don't think anyone to chat
thinks Fortnite makes sense. I'm not gonna pick Fortnite so okay, yeah uh,
I though I'm gonna pick Returnal Okay, which I know me and you
are because everyone else he was a fucking love Returnal and we'll go we'll stop
talk about how great it is, so okay, everyone else loves it,
um shit, Because I'm like, I'm thinking of so many games that were
picked last time around that I don't know if we can pick him again.
Um or I can't remember if we picked him last time. Actually, guess
we probably have that list somewhere. We can look at it. Can I
do Miles Morales? You can do Miles Morales. I was thinking about that.
I associate that that's basically a launch game places five. That makes sense.
Yeah, m hmm, sure, it's too bad. Everybody hates Halo
Infinite now, yeah, I know, right one, I was definitely gonna
wanting to pick that, but I won't. Yeah, no, absolutely not.
Man, this is gonna be it might be harder to twelve with so
many. Yeah, but let's just force our way to it. Well,
oh, fire of them three houses. That's a really good one. That's
a good one. There we go. That's a really good I go.
I feel good about that. Okay. Um, So, like like Destiny
too will probably not right? Probably not? What what? Just think?
Like just maybe we should just not dolef service games. It gets muddy,
it gets muddy. So not Final Fantasy fourteen. No, I mean that's
games ten years old now. Also, yeah, I know, but there's
like expansions. Okay, fair enough, fair enough? Um yeah, Cruza
like a Dragon, Okay, yeah, yeah, I think that's that's a
good number six pick. I think yeah, I feel good about that.
Mm hmmm, Zeno Baite Chronicles three. Oh, that's another really good man.
You're doing the deep picks on which that I'm just not even thinking about.
It's either way, Chronicles three, Okay, how we do each have?
Now? If that's my three fourth, that's your seventh one, right
Ken? Yeah, okay, all right. So we're getting to the point
where we're more than halfway through, and I just don't know anymore. I
could do a racing game, but that never seems to help, right,
Um No, I always said, I'm like, go, I'm gonna go
the racing game, and then everyone's like, no one cares, no one's
impressed. Did we do Final Fantasy seven remake last time? Yeah? Because
that was that was a place yoution fourth first and then like it came out.
But I'm not, okay, I'm not gonna do that then. Um,
I don't know. I wonder if that would make a difference. I
guess it's like it's really hard to know if anyway, you know what,
I'll go with Demon Souls the remake. Okay, that's fine, that makes
sense. Yeah, it's yeah, that's what I got, Benji buffs Is.
I'm shocked y'all having said the obvious answer. Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, I wonder how there might be an obvious answered that we can't
pick because we did it last time. I look at across Janis or something
like. Maybe I was thinking Breath of the Whild what Jeff already picked the
last time. Yeah, we said we couldn't do that this time. No
siree, no surre do bob um. But poor Mas had to go nuts
on these things. Those suggestions chat nose suggestions. Uh m hmm. It's
like a whole like series like people like and I'm like, no, yeah,
serious, there's like one maybe I could m hmmm mm hmmm. I
think do people care? I don't know anymore. Maybe our audience because of
what we've been through. I will take Neon White right now. Okay,
I like that. Um, okay, I'm gonna I'm trying to think because
like I didn't think of Tears of the Kingdom. I'm like, man,
but how it's like I'm literally the only game I'm playing right now because I'm
like thinking, like, oh, it's like I had my mindset the same
as the previous ones, where it's like I got to think in the past.
No, like right now, like what came out this year. Um,
we're spoken spoken right there for you, Red Falls right there for Hi
Fi Rush every Man. I almost picked that a set of Neon white.
All right, I'm gonna I think I'm the recency bias. I hope.
I'm gonna pick the most successful video game of all time. Okay, I'
doing Luigi's Mansion three. That's a really good pick. That's a really good
thick getting your rules. Um okay, that's my ninth mm hmm. Now,
ever, everything I'm thinking about that, I think it's Cross Jenna.
Uh but oh oh okay, this is what I like discarded earlier, but
now it makes more sense. Death Loop. Yeah it's not bad, Jeff.
Yeah, it's you know, it's definitely not a high pick, but
it's it's a it's gonna have its play with a certain audience. I think,
Yeah, that's not bad at all. Um m hmmm. What what
what was the last Forts the Horizon? It was Forts the Horizon five.
Yeah, that's what. Yeah, it's six. Yeah, I think at
this point I will take Forts the Horizon. Yeah, I think that's a
good pick at this point. Forts Horizon five is one I was gonna consider
if if I couldn't think of a death loop, I was definitely gonna go
with Forts Horizon five. So I think that's a good choice. Um uh
do I already have that covered? Um? I don't. Oh I did
it, hey, Rise of five. I gave it a four out of
five, and I said it my review that I'm not the biggest racing game
fan of people freaked down I am. I guess it might as well Splatoon
three. Oh yeah, that's good. Yeah, I mean so one,
two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight nineties.
We're at ten. We'll do a recap for audio listeners. Yes, So
Mike's got the Elder Ring, the Tiers of the Kingdom, Animal Cross,
the New Horizon, Uh, Ratchet, Clink, Drift, Apart, Returnal
Fire and Boom three Houses, Zeno Blade Chronicles three, Neon White, Luigi's
Mansion three, Fourt's Horizon five. I think that's a killer list. I
got Super Smash Brothers, Ultimate Super Mario, Odyssey, Godiboar, Ragnarok,
Resident Evil, f remake, Spider Man Morale, Miles Morales, Yak who's
at like a dragon Demon Souls high five Rush Yeah, defin Loop Splatoon three.
It's a really good list. I don't but but man, those Foosh
first two are going to be really tough to overcome. I'm gonna take.
It's like, I don't see how it's a bad pick, and yet somehow,
somehow I can imagine all of a sudden, people are like, well,
that's weird. I know if people liked it a lot. It was
nominated for Game of the Year. No Psyco Nuts two, Psychoonuts too,
sure, psycoonuts too, Yes, Break Game too Yes, absolutely, yeah,
I agree. Okay, and we're the last two picks, and I
and I have some ideas, but it's like these last ones, it's like
none of them feel right because it's like they're not perfect. Um, but
you can't perfect be the enemy of the good enough, that's correct, sir.
I'm like trying to see if there's like a hail Mary anywhere. But
I think you've done a good job of like picking a lot of the ones
that would have made sense late if we would have like forgot about it,
but we haven't. Forgot about much. Um, I don't think so.
You always be surprised what we discover. I think this is gonna count because
it has a new game in it. Uh and I already got a Mario
game. But I'm gonna do this anyhow. I'm gonna do we Super Mario
three World plus Bouser's Fury. All right, Look, it's borderline. I'll
allow it. Though it's definitely not borderline. It's a whole new Mario game
in there that's longer than most Mario games. It's a meter away from the
border, but it's like closer to the border. That's some fair enough,
Okay. My last one, uh, my last one. I want to
be careful, might take a little extra time to really make sure I'm not
forgetting anything. Uh And I feel like I almost certainly am like we're supposed
to trying to think of like third party stuff, especially what m I don't
want to speak too much about my process here is I don't want to give
you evil one. Yeah, sure, any ideas. I'm also like,
man, there must be things that we are definitely forgetting about. There must
I've got my I mean, I have my one that I've been holding on
this whole time, So I didn't think it made sense to those last pick.
But I'll be very furious if you think of it. I have one
and like really well reviewed game game, and I'm not sure if like our
people care about it, which is weird, And yet I think that might
be the case. I think I might have to pick it anyways, But
no, I think I can do better. I think I can do better.
There's another one. Now, there's no way I'm depicting that one.
Absolutely not that that will definitely blow up in my face with this crowd.
For sure. I wonder if I should just try to think of, like,
what's the next best attendo thing? Why we often I just remembered the
game I should pick? Oh really, yeah? I mean yeah, well
what's now Runner? Yeah? It makes no Runner. I don't want you
to beginning of I'm gonna trying to help you. You could have snow Runner.
That one's all yours? Um, fuck, man, do I really
do that? I don't think so. Not that one. I got a
lot of the I got a lot of the Nintendo stuff, not a lot
of Yeah, I got enough Nintendo stuff, there must be I feel like
there's not enough indie games. I feel like I must be forgetting something there.
But I said, Hades that was a big deal. Um, did
people care about that one as much? I don't know. Maybe I should
do that. No, I mean I got me on white. There's an
indie, but that's not like the biggest. Well, I'm so I wish
I would have Well what would I have dropped for? Because I have two
in mine now, I really wish I had could Okay, really yeah,
I mean begat me stuff. But um, I don't think I could drop
anything for either of these. LF We'll see. Well, No, it's
hard. I'm just I'm terrified to make this last pick. Mike. You
listen, it's not anything like last time. You pretty much have this sealed
up. No, just don't make a mistake. No, definitely, this
is not no you have. It's completely reversed. For No, I thought
that I told you you're You're wrong this time. I mean, Chat wants
to be to stunt on you and pick gaull of it. I'm not gonna
do that. That would be I think you could do it and you'll still
win. I really think it's the elder Ring and here's the Kingdom alone is
going to be is going to have you like you're good. It is a
very good one too, and I feel very very good about that. And
yet I'm still really agonizing over this last one. Uh okay, all right,
I saw take it up by one time. It takes two. Okay,
that's a cool pick. Game of the year, Game of the year.
Yeah, one game of the year. I want to. I was
gonna do Astro Astro's Playroom. Yeah, but then then I remembered Hitman World
Assassination. Hitman three came out this generation, so didn't we pick then it
was a Man World assassination. Someone this last time we forget you can take
it, you know, not gonna make yes exactly? Uh? Assassin Nation.
Can I spell as sassassinations? Yeah? Two asses? I learned that
with Assassin's creed having to right those up. Wait, I like an extra
ass in there for me. It's three as like Assassin Nation whatever? Um?
Hitman was not? Okay? Cool? Um? Yeah? All right?
So the audio listeners here you go. It is Elder. This is
the mic Station five, Elder Ring, Tears of the Kingdom, Animal Crossing,
New Horizon, Ratchan Clint grifta Park Returnal Firing, Three Houses, Xena,
Blake Chronicles three, Nigon White, Luigi's Mansion three Forts, Rise of
Five, Psychonauts two It Takes Two, The Xbox series. Jeff is a
Super Smash Brothers Ultimate, Super Mario Odyssey, God of War, Ragnarok,
Resident Evil for Remake, Spider Man, Miles Morales, Yakuza Like a Dragon,
Demon Souls, Hi Fi Rush, Death Loops, Platoon three, Super
Mario, three D World plus Bowser, Fury and Hitman World of Assassination.
We forgot Metro dread Chats, right, Dad, that's huge. That's the
curbing the forgotten. Oh, Vampire Survivors would have been good too. I
think that would have been fun. I don't know. Would have liked that.
Yeah, but I don't know if I would replace anything on my list
maybe maybe Death Looper, High Fight Rush. I guess I don't. I
would have. Yeah, I would have pushed something. Hey, there's always
going to be ones we forget. Yep, that's how it goes, all
right, we will. We'll get this up for our our podcast producers so
they can vote. They are the binding vote. I'll eventually post this up
here pretty soon for you all in chat to vote, and for Twitter to
vote and we'll see. I think listen, I think it's close outside of
those but not because of those first two. If like, if we don't
count the first two games, it's close. As soon as we start counting
those first two games, I don't think I stand a chance. But uh
but hey, that's that's the way it goes sometimes. I think that was
a very good overall, pretty even except for me for getting tears of the
Kingdom exists, which is a wild thing to happen. Well, it's a
busy becausing we're playing against like that, that's what doesn't It's honestly how my
brain was functioning, I think, which whatever, whatever, that's that's it
made it fun. All right, So Sean, do you have the vote
ready to go? You're gonna get it going. We'll give people plenty of
time to do that. Well, we could take a break and set that
up and we can come right back. We'll talk about some of the games
we've been playing, uh bs a little bit more. We'll close things out
here, all right, we'll be right back. All right, we're back.
Um, got a bad feeling about this one, but listen, it
all all, it all comes around in the end and I'm sure that I'll
pay the ultimate listen out and they no. But even if I lose,
I still won the series, right, that's how it goes. Well,
the series isn't over yet. There, We'll come up with other Yes,
we could do handholds. I think it would be fun. Yeah, mobile
games we could. We could draft video game movie, we could draft Facebook
games. Go back and like who's going to get farm zell rice. Yeah,
that's the future of gaming. That's right, all right, we will
get to those results here very soon. During the break, I got Jeff
to promise to go see The Grinch Risthma movie with me. Yep, yes
I did. But then, yeah, this is a it's it's my reward
ram for almost certainly winning this one. It's it's weird how I'm not a
car person. I fucking love movies about cars. Oh sure, yeah,
Fast Furious Forward Forward versus Ferrari. Yes, um, like a gone sixty
seconds, like like I roll my eyes and all these movies that like wax
political about jazz. But you get somebody like going like oh the smell of
like the turbine and stuff. I'm like yeah, It's like I'm like,
yeah, I should just work in a garage, like I leave and cut
my senses. But I totally buy it to the romanticism all of it.
During those movies like the Dirty Garage, there's always like some hot girl and
a tank top and like covered in grease. I'm like yeah, And then
the car trans forms into a dude with a gun and they're always drinking some
kind of domestic beer. And you just know that if you, like tried
to give them a blue moon, they would like smack you in the face.
Yeah they would, They would shoot you for sure. All Right,
I don't know, Sean, hasn't been enough time or should we go into
what we've been playing. I didn't see the number go up a ton,
So I'm talking about what you've been playing cars kind of what you just put
me out of my misery. But all right, fair enough. I guess
ring this along that's also fair projuvenates me at the annual long That's completely fair,
Mike. What have you been playing? No? Actually, another thing
about it? Not much I can talk about. I mean, look,
I play a ton of Tears of the Kingdom. Still it's still very good.
I am just continuing to have so much fun with it. I will
say that I think I am at the point even now I could say,
without beating it, I like it more than Breath of the woud I do.
It speaks to me just a little bit more, all this fun stuff
like it's in saying the stuff like that big stuff I'm still finding out.
Like I really spend time exploring the caverns uh for fort time in a while,
and it was great. I got a new ability, I got a
lot of stuff that let me expand my battery so I could probably do more
interesting and long term build things. I've unlocked every single one of the towers
now, so I have like the whole maps scoped out. That's cool.
Well, no you don't, because I'm sure you haven't done everything. And
the depths come on, Okay, I don't have all the depths like you
know, like yeah, that main area, and I've done like just you
know, a ton of shrines at this point. But I've only done two
of the temples still, so next tithing I'm two temples in as well.
Yeah, so I might be doing another another temple probably pretty soon. Here
will be my task for tonight and made first week. I'm at a point
now where part of me's like, oh, like maybe like maybe I should
be thinking about beating this game, but also I don't want to do that.
I want to just keep playing. Yep. I'm just I'm not gonna
rush it. I'm just gonna keep playing. Uh, there's so much do
I'm like, I'm not gonna like, oh, be at the end.
I have to make that decision of like, oh, do I want to
go to the end or do all this fun stuff. I'm just gonna do
all the fun stuff and then if I if I come across the temple,
I will do temples. Although you know, doing the temples get extra powers,
so it's kind of fun to have that stuff. Although like I'm like,
you know, I'm assuming this is I'm assuming that if I do like
those the Zora stuff, I'm just gonna get something that helps me swim faster.
So I'm not that worried about getting that power yet away. Yeah,
no idea what I'll get from the grudo get me neither. But I'm like,
yeah, I'm that's fine. I listen, the powers I have right
now from the two temples I did do very cool, very useful, helpful.
Yeah, so that stuff's been cool. Um, but then now I'm
like, Okay, I'm gonna tell I'm gonna I'm gonna stop putting off that
newspaper quest. I'm gonna stop putting off Those are fine, Yeah, handful
of bug things. I'm going to, yeah, go on unblock all the
rest of the towers that I haven't done yet. I'm gonna probably in every
shrine I see a long way. I'm gonna do every single one of those,
and then I'm gonna go back down to the depths and spend a lot
of time down there because I've been having a lot of fun down there.
I saw my favorite Twitter creation yet in this game. Somebody made metal gear
like yeah, oh my god, incredible. It looks so cool. It
looks so much like it. I was like, hell, yes, this
thing rules. And it like had like the long like arm kidding thing like
shooting out missiles and stuff. There was even a shrine. There was one
of those like combat only shrines or like you're you start naked, and it
was built around making some kind of like wartake just go off on its owner.
It's like the enemy's for you. And that was so much fun.
It's just it's just incredible. It's just insane. What they've done here,
Like the only thing anyone could possibly have an issue with UM is performance issues,
and they haven't really bothered me that much. I think anybody who says
like the map is a problem is actually speaking in bad faith. It's just
not a problem. Nope, not an issue at all. And they've added
so much to the game that there's a it does feel completely new. I
think if you had like an initial reaction of like, oh this game could
feel pretty see me right, you're it's it's there's four things in the map
you gotta go do, and they're kind of like the last things in the
last game, and you gotta um, you lose all your powers and you
gotta build them up, and you get corax seeds to expand your stuff at
all, and all that's the same in the Lass game. It's like,
it turns out actually all that stuff being familiar and working in the way.
It's like, yeah, that was a good choice because complicating those things about
making them different just to make them different didn't make any sense. Instead,
they should have just focused on what they did focus on, which is add
a ton of new things in every other direction, and that just rules.
It's it's so cool. It's I mean, it's definitely a direct sequel,
and it turns out like you could do a lot of awesome stuff with a
direct sequel, and I'm so glad that they did. So Yeah, I
am continuing. Every time I play it. I like it more. Every
time I play it. I play it for way longer than I thought it
would. Yes, every time I'm up like this whole week, Jeff,
it's already been too busy, and then I'm making it worse by staying up
too late. Yeah, I'm playing it basically, I'm like, I'm catching
myself dozing off. I'm like, oh shit, all right, I gotta
actually go to sleep, and I'm in bed. I'm like I'm playing.
I'm like, okay, I'm done. I'm gonna go to like the bathroom
and get back. And then when I get back, I'm like, well,
maybe I'll do like one more shrine. Yeah, that what yether or
And It's it's insane. It's like you never stop at a point where it's
like I'm done. There's always more stuff you want to do, but you're
always there's always like three things that you're back in the back of your mind,
like oh, I was gonna do that. I was gonna do that.
I was gonna do that. Well, I mean, I don't want
to go to bed before I do that. I should just definitely get that
done. And it's like it's a game that you could both play and these
super long chunks where you're making all kinds of progress, and you could play
it bite sized, and it turns out like one fits into the other really
nicely, like do a bite sized thing, one more thing, one more
thing, one more thing, and boy, that makes it very compelling to
play. It makes it very sticky, very easy to play. Hyeah.
I'm just I'm really enjoying it. It's and then it truly, it truly
does continue to feel pretty revolutionary where it's like you'll get to a shrine,
and the shrine you could see the way that it's designed, but it's mostly
the way it's mostly designed is we've given you a million tools, here's an
obstacle, figure it out, and it's games just actually don't do that.
Some smaller games do that. I mean like it's a uh kind of a
sandboxy Steam game sort of thing. And this is one of the most one
of the biggest games of all time. And they're like, no, we
are adopting that place down now. This is maybe the future, and boy,
it feels like the future. Even like those sandboxy games they don't actually
have an amazing structure around them, and here is a good loop and a
good structure and all the other trappings you would want from a big game.
It is. It is just nuts and it's I'm like, man, I
hope I don't have to wait for like the next Zella to see something of
this scale and scope again, because it is just magnificent. Is it time
to find out if I won yet? Because I'm like anxious, Yes,
yes, yes, well maybe we should. Maybe we should start the pull
for chat first. I started, and we'll have Sean come in here and
say it. Let's see here, uh future by hum Drum wasn't able to
do a super chat. But I'm just gonna I'll answer your question without like,
actually, hey, don't have anxiety about the Xbox Showcase. Man,
I don't know. I have no idea. You don't have to. Please
don't get all anxious about it because of me. I'm not downplaying it because
I think it's gonna be bad. I don't know. We just don't know.
All right, I'm starting with the Twitter poll. I'm sorry, the
chat pole. Uh, I'll bring that back up so people can see.
Just give me a second. Um, we have control Z. Control z.
There's that. Everyone can vote. Now, vote for the one you
to choose, and listen if you're listening to the audio version later. The
Twitter poll is going to be running for basically the next week, so you
can go in there and just really kick Sam in my eyes if you want.
Let's see the Xbox series, Jeff. You could just vote for mine
because I have a cool name. Mike Station five a cool name, but
you didn't even pick it, so it's not like it's fair. All right,
there we go. Everyone has a chance to vote now in chat all
right, Sean, do we have the results? Oh? Yeah, results,
Please don't don't even gentlemen with seventy a Dame of the no doubt,
of course, absolute blowout. Not even closed, nowhere close. The winner
is the Mic Station five. Congratulations Mike Station five. What do you care?
There was no chance you were gonna lose. I know, and like,
I've never been this confident, but I've been pretty confident before. It's
still like lost by like two to like one. So but you were wrong
in those previous cases. This time you were right. It's like I do
think, I do think just out a ring Tiers of the Kingdom, did
it? Oh? Yeah? There was no chance after that, there was
literally under what. I don't think we were to like try to craft a
list like you just had old ring Tiers of the Kingdom and I got to
then choose the next twelve games. I don't think I could choose a list
that would have been able to beat it. I don't think so. No.
I think if it would have been interesting if I picked out a ring
and then you picked Tears of the Kingdom first, then that might have been
interesting. Yeah, you might have even won. To be honest, totally,
I think Tears of the Kingdom is actually the most important one. But
uh, elder Ring because because the recency biased, like everyone's playing it right
now, so like that that's what last year's Tears of the Kingdom, right,
elder Ing obviously like is the number two games. And then Goldie says
Mike's face after the Smash Brothers. Fick was pressed for I'm like, I'm
like what, I'm like, why does he look like that? And then
you said, I'm like, oh fuck me. Oh man, all right,
I thought I thought Smash Brothers or Mario was gonna be my second.
But right, I never never even occurred to me to pick Tiers of the
Kingdom. So here we are. Uh yeah, well done, Mike.
Congratulations, thank you. You're very good at picking other people's video games.
I think that's very impressive. Yes, we did it in a fun series.
We man, we sured did he definitely whip post of them, Jeff,
I think I won two out of all these generations, So it was
a game. It's a fun thing. We we'll figure out more ways to
do drafts in the future, for sure. Everybody. Uh, okay,
let's see. Yeah, Tears the Kingdom for me. Um, I've talked
about brain age on the Ninten Dogs. Um I played Gullum. We talked
about that earlier. It's rough, it's real bad. It's it really is
as bad. That's very true. Thank you so much. Um. I
don't know, but I've been other than that, I've been playing much and
I honestly I kind of wanted to get back to playing Tears to the Kingdom.
So I think maybe we could start wrapping this show up, Mike,
I don't know, is there anything else you want to talk about. Let's
get out of here, buddy. We did it. We did good,
We did it. We have a good show. Thanks for everybody for hanging
in there with us while we figured all that stuff out. Thanks for listening
to this show. If you want to go vote and rub it in.
The Twitter poll was closer for a second. I think it's back to being
pretty pretty, pretty tough for me again. But yes, it's it's not
quite a seventy five percent to twenty five percent blowout, but you can go
in there and make it so if you would so choose Mike, where can
people find you on the internet while I hit this button? Yeah, Twitter
and twitch at Tall Coat Toe. I've been playing through voters Gate, Dark
Alliance on the Game and some more of that this week. I've been enjoying
us. It's just such a simple fun game right now. It's like the
opposite of Tears to the kingdo all the stuff you can do here. There's
like three things you can do, but they all kind of work pretty low
and I like doing them. But yeah, we'll figure out some other things
to do. The YouTube real quick seventy three percent for the Mike Station five.
Hey, thank you, thank you YouTube. Hey appreciate it. But
yeah, and then we did Connectivity Compadres, which was an interesting episode of
that. Uh but yeah, that Calm Golm something I tell you, Like
I watched the Golm thing. Don't buy Golm watch that. Ye yes,
just watch us play. That was a lot of fun. Actually it was.
I was playing and talking about it. That's why. That's a lot
of fun. And you get that for free on Giant bombed up. Oh.
I know this isn't my wish for Blake Club, but like Dan's got
all these wrestling connections and he's like used to it. To me, it's
still like it would give me a pop. I wonder if you could get
a wrestler, any wrestler, to give me some kind of robo cop motivational
like talk kind of a little thing anyway, right, So I don't care
who, Okay, somebody, we'll figure something out that'd be fun. It
should be stinging, though, so see, well it won't be staking.
He won't do that. I don't think I think it'd be incredible for the
stay. I don't think he can get sting. Wow. Uh, we
did not forget Astro's playroom. We just didn't select it. I was I
was considering for my last say that keeps good. Yeah, it's a real
Jeff. I would just I would do so many terrible things to get just
like that as a sequel, as a full game. It's that game is
just so good as that little stupid thing it was. It was perfect as
that. Regret giving it a part of five back then, just because it
was short. I should have just given it the best quarter it possibly could,
because it is so good. It's a it's a precious little thank and
it deserves all that. It's fantastic. All right. We are gonna be
back next week. Things are gonna get pretty hectic here pretty soon, because
after the week after that it's gonna be summer game fast. But we'll come
back and we'll probably do some episodes talking about that next week, so look
out for that. Until then, though, everybody, have a good way,
take care of yourself. Goodbye. We'll see you next time. Weren't
taking over. I can't mind the story no more. Master Chief comes.
Yeah, it's back, all right. If everyone's watching, it won't be
too long. Mike he's probably gonna go used to potty. I'm gonna I'm
gonna go get this one over here, some medicine. When Mikey gets back.
Uh, I'm gonna turn my camera too real quick because she's not wearing
pants. I'm gonna let her come over here. Hey, could be her
kettle. The cameras off. You're good? You okay? Yeah? They
can't up chest. What's coming on? Kiddoh you so you gotta go a
little bitch. I think she's starting to get sick. Everybody we're doing okay?
Oh not again? Yeah, no, it starts. You write me
down. Oh, because you were yelling from downstairs and I couldn't hear you.
So what what were you saying? Yeah? You just thinking about it
all right? Do you want to You just wanted to see gull him again?
You want to see the bad game? Oh no, well he knows
I like Caide. People think I hate him. I am, Oh okay,
week can I don't know? You show him? It kind of sounds
like you hate him. I don't hate it. I hate the people that
like Skade. Mmmmm okay you know what? And yeah, bored that.
Nope, I'm not gonna play this any no more. It goes like marathon.
He's coming down. So does this gonna be a new thing? Probably?
I like distraction shooters, that's my shit. Okay, Okay, you
seem to like bungee stuff as well, so I do like bunge of shit,
all right. I think like the allergies. I don't know. But
she's got like a thing on her neck. It looks like maybe a bit
of a rash. So I'm gonna go get her smany. He's mean when
Mike it's back, and hopefully that helps her out. Okay, we'll see,
we'll see. It is that time of year, yes, but with
them them, it's always the time of year for something. It's just you
know, oh hang out, it's oh step But let's see if she texted
so steps up, I think was canceled. You got me? Good?
M h you'll fin no, all right, she's on her way home now,
all right, so sweet sweet relief. Eventually here it's saved and maybe
maybe saved. We'll see, we'll see. Yeah, kiddo, what's up?
Okay, that's funny. I just started off my camera because Emmy was
over here and she's in her nighttime clothes, and I don't want people see.
So that's a safe precaution. Yeah, I'm gonna like, I'm gonna
go get her some anti histamin they want to get back. We'll get started,
okay, okay, Oh my tin whistle, Oh shan play play the
Tear of the Kingdom. We have the overlay. You're gonna play that.
I figured it out that one time, and I don't know, I can't
remember now. It was like, play something else? Yeah, is that
idol? Yeah, Sylvie, No, that's Lion King Glory music for play
the golm music. Yeah, what the hell is the Golle music? Play
Cruising now? Yeah, play outcast play hey yeah, oh hey yeah yeah.
Once he told me it was a poll right pictures song. I remember
that. That came back to me. No ways, So for a still
clan, I don't know if that. It's hard to do simple and clean
on my tin. What's like a dude in the piano, but just shit
on my piano right now? Just finally, I finally I could. I
finally bought some shelves, like a nice shelf today to put all my game
Cube games and Xbox games on. So to this all right, Oh,
it's a big one. But I mean I'll see if I can show everybody,
like see behind the scenes. Yeah, there's just like my christ turn
on your turn on your fishy fish fish I camera mowing. No, that
was a mistake that one time. I don't want to do that. So
yeah, I got a lot of that ship right now. Some will be
nice, like maybe bring up something I stall have a box with like all
by three sixty and places in three games and WEU games. I could put
those out stuff. I want to bring my WIU because I really it's like
what am I gonna find time now? But I would like to play like
maireous Tube again, maybe win wicker h and the WU concept is in vogue
again. Yeah right, um Nick Carriss Dolphin is free and takes a physical
space. It sounds good though doesn't feel the same. You know, GC
load or is also pretty good. You see how much fun done the Capitalistic
machine. You can't feel the disk, that's what gets him off. You
can, Yeah, you can re reap off the this without pushing the button.
I can't. I still just like rip them out by the way,
and then afterwards I'm like, oh right, they taught me I can just
push that button. I still I just forget. Oh my god, you
didn't desider that. Shit. My ice is almost melted. Shit, oh
shit, m m too much, too much lime juice? This time,
I'll remember half a limes fines right, It's like I didn't the whole long.
It's like, what am I gonna half a lime now? So I
just put the whole thing in there. It's too much, you know Jeff
Lemon that one time. Yeah, gross, I'm gonna have to like take
three tombs after this to make sure I don't get heart burned in the middle
of night and almost gag on acid reflex, which is just what happens to
me now if I taco bell at night, I'm old loops, forgot a
taco bell and I forgot to take toms. I guess I'm almost gonna die
tonight. Yeah, what's your taco bell order? Mikey? What do you
what do you think? What antihistamine is Jeff cane for the kid? I
guess something strong, think like he's gonna give him give us some child's a
night quill, Like, oh, yeah, this is where you're sneezing,
you might go sleepy sleep. Also, well, guys, I want to
talk anymore? Where thout you go? Oh me, you can't hear us?
You can't us. I think my something. Yeah, I think I
might have knowd something. I didn't hear you. For a second. I
thought I was talking, okay, really ignoring me. Okay, So that
was good. I was very lonely and scared for a second. Mike,
what's your what's your go to taco bell order? Like a chickencase, a
dia and a cheesy Gordida corunch? No lettuce obviously, Hey, jeff'spec set
up for the draft? Basic bitch? What what's your exotic taco bell order?
We don't have that? Go well here, I'm just that's just wow,
what a good food? What a garbage country? You don't have taco
bell? I don't know. Yeah, it's a shame. What's that about?
It's taco bell browser. There we go can be bar to get crunch
rap. I get a crunch rap supreme. I had one last night.
No, yeah, there's too many things I have to ask for. None
of it a crunch rap Supreme. I don't mess of it. I don't
like dice, raw tomatoes. I hate lettuce obviously. Basically, the lesson
if something has just lettuce or just tomatoes. I have a rule if I
can ask for just for like no one thing, I'll do it, and
I'll usually be safe. I think that's a fair rule. Once you start
asking for no two things. One it's annoying and two they're just way more
like we're not sure. My food must be beige is a good rule to
have. Well, okay, and any food that's like earth tongue colored is
good. That's like in that brown to yellow category is delicious. All right?
Uh yeah, I was just thinking today, who actually likes lettuce?
I don't get it. I love lettuce. I like it as a filler,
lence intended as a filler. It's good. I'm not like I don't
like at a salad. You freaking hate it. You don't eat a salad?
I fucking well like I get it's like spinach and stuff like the better
greens. All right, I'm good. Tomato lettuce, all right, you
too, get out here. Thank you for your help, but leave child.
All right, I'm gonna bring us back in and thank you everybody for
for bearing with us. I appreciate it. Okay. If Cristian says the
vote is up, everybody it's it's it's happening. You can user. Yeah,
we'll do a poll and chat for funzies. If you're if you're a
YouTube member, if you are a Patreon supporter, if you are subscribed to
either our Twitch channels, you can go and podcast producers I believe, and
vote right now. So that threats and podcast threads. So yeah, check
that out. That's available for you right now. Um, we'll come back
and we'll talk about what we've been playing, and then we'll kind of break
in here in a little bit. Does that sound good? Sounds good to
me? Okay, so I thought about it in West Jag, but I
just our audience, I don't think so yeah, maybe what's up? Yeah?
Almost done? You gotta go to get up, go to sleep.
Uh okay, let's see. You know, I thought about Jay Survivor from
Face Working is not count came out ten years ago. Whatever, dude,
it's like in a current game. Also slide service. So I gets to
qualified on two counts. Actually, last time people said, how did that
not pick Fantacy fourteen? Yes? No, gets the spirit if you pick
picked the last time you could have. Yeah, I had fourteen on PlayStation
three actually and not the original, I mean a Rome reborn. So yeah,
really long? Yeas bad. I don't know. I think like if
it's a current game, that one person that always says worst pentiments can be
mad because now we could actually have picked oh there's worse pentiment okay for one.
Well, I mean I wasn't gonna look like that. I'm not about
Oh man, if you pick about a boomer game in like two years,
like right, that was this music coming from? Okay, what is that
a question? Yeah? It's last yep, you can went back one of
these two the silence Actually, Christian is it bloot? Oh not that ass?
That's funny that you're funny? I get your ass? Good? Yeah,
you got me there. Uh. I thought about r vote for a
second. I just think what about dead Space? I thought about for a
second, and it's just it just likes so lesser than Ari four to me,
Okay, not really worth Yeah, we're Shigary the Giant Bond game of
the year last year. I did. I did think about that first about
ten ten million seconds. I'm done. I'm done. I go myself.
Yeah you got me. I'm not gonna let I was good as Marvels.
That might have been cute. I feel like we've all already moved on from
Marvels. Snap though, beef. That was a smidge of a flash in
the pan. Yeah, Cruising Blood, Cruising Black, that's a good one.
Yeah, I am mad about much a dread. That would have been
a sure for nothing for me. Then it takes two. Oh yeah that
was something actually, yeah, it would have been great. Use he didn't
pick it, right, Um, why can't I? I thought Moster Hunter
Rise, I could have maybe done that un been last Gas Rise. Was
this gen that Rice is a new one. There was a monster in game,
right, and I couldn't be trying to think like there should be more
Capcom games up for grabs. What I kept thinking, yea from A four.
I even thought about that might Cry five and then I looked, No,
that was Xbox one placeation four and then came out a year later for
the other ones and not really. Also I thought about Grant Chismos seven set
of fourth JG. But I think I think this c I was more into
the more open world Xboxy thing than the same places when I liked grindersmost seven
more than it to be Okay, we should go see that Grint Rosman movie
together. You promise me we'll do that. But I promised always, I
promise. Let's let's bring it back in the mold. We'll talk it out.
Uh okay, I'm gonna change the overlay. Oh yeah, like the
scene, but I like to put a little salt just in my margarita instead
of a rim. But like it kind of collects on the bottom, So
the end of this margarita very salty. Oh that's what you need, all right,