1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,839 Welcome to this edition of The High Strangers Factor, copyrighted on the Paranormal UK 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:09,080 Radio Network. I am Steve Word and I am here with Andy Mercer tonight 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:14,359 and we'll we'll be talking to I believe two investigators. We definitely have one 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,480 right now that cover it all, ghosts, UFOs and even the Beast of 5 00:00:18,559 --> 00:00:22,440 bray Road. Andy, welcome back. Yes, it's given me back again. 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,519 It's been a couple of shows. I've missed them. As you know, 7 00:00:25,559 --> 00:00:28,359 we're trying to process, are sorting out, setting out house. It's 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,399 going rather well. We are hopefully moving in a couple of weeks and I'm 9 00:00:32,399 --> 00:00:36,240 just beginning the process of packing the house up and it is rather daunting prospect 10 00:00:36,719 --> 00:00:40,280 of rather large book collection which I've sought out. I spent the last two 11 00:00:40,359 --> 00:00:43,840 days beginning to pack things from my office, just wrapping things up and bubble 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,200 wrap and boxing them up, and it doesn't have any different twenty boxes of 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:53,000 stuff packed up and the room looks pretty much the same. She's going to 14 00:00:53,079 --> 00:00:55,960 be a long job the house. The rest of us have been done by 15 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,719 the removal company, and that's why you usual kitchen stuff. I don't want 16 00:00:58,719 --> 00:01:00,719 them touching my book collection, so I said, I do that, but 17 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,599 things got just under two weeks to go, touch would because the fun and 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,879 contracts I mean sort of out. Yeah, but we're assured that that's just 19 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,079 a matter of time. So it's giving me rather busy, which is good 20 00:01:12,079 --> 00:01:15,159 to be. Last weekend, I miss the couldn't do the show because he 21 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,239 did a little while ago because he went down to look at the house again 22 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:22,400 for the last time. So it's looking very exciting. Well, yesterday was 23 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:27,920 my one year anniversary here in Point Pleasant. Ye, that's harm but yeah, 24 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:33,280 I know it, and I think of all the goals I had to 25 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,560 be things to be accomplished in one year, it hasn't happened yet, so 26 00:01:38,359 --> 00:01:41,599 at least I got some of them done. But yeah, and you know, 27 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:46,159 I were just talking off air about the frantic nature of selling the one 28 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,319 house, getting the other house set up and moving and getting out before the 29 00:01:49,359 --> 00:01:53,719 new tenants have to come in and everything has to kind of fall in place, 30 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,599 and for me it was just like a few days apart to have all 31 00:01:56,599 --> 00:01:59,719 that settle in. So good good to hear that things are going. And 32 00:02:00,439 --> 00:02:02,920 I saw pictures of your house and it looks like a really nice area, 33 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,439 so nice, quiet countryside is literally a village, a properly English village, 34 00:02:07,439 --> 00:02:12,039 just sort of the town in Somerset. So we are very looking, very 35 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,560 much looking forward to moviegin It's it's a chain, should be very easy. 36 00:02:15,599 --> 00:02:17,439 If I mentioned before, the guy that's buying our place is going to be 37 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,400 renovating, doing it up, so no one's moving agin straight away. It 38 00:02:21,479 --> 00:02:23,479 will be empty for a while while they're doing that. The house we bought 39 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:28,000 is what we call probates with the person who owned the house has passed away. 40 00:02:28,039 --> 00:02:30,639 We're buying off their kids, so there's no one in there, so 41 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,080 there's no chain, no movie. It should be easy, but it's been 42 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,919 three months already, so still sort of waiting for it to finally happen. 43 00:02:37,039 --> 00:02:39,120 So it's crazy how long these thing can actually take. Even the most simple 44 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:46,240 no chains still take ages. Well, you know, every time I hear 45 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,439 about a quiet English village, all I can think of is the TV show 46 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:55,000 Midsummer Murderer, not that far away from us. I think they just the 47 00:02:55,080 --> 00:03:00,120 latest DVD set I got was they're celebrating their twenty five years and I think 48 00:03:00,159 --> 00:03:06,759 they figured out they killed about four hundred people in these quiet little villages there? 49 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,159 Who was lovecrafting about? It? Isn't easy miss quite a little country 50 00:03:09,199 --> 00:03:14,759 village? Will the strange deaths occurring all the time and always and always over 51 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,080 the top desk, somebody comes, trips and falls right, absolutely, Well, 52 00:03:17,199 --> 00:03:22,159 well let's get started with our guest here. Yes, Dominics. They 53 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,759 tell has been a medium since he was three years old. He can see 54 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:30,479 full body apparitions and speak to spirit. He enjoys being able to help the 55 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:36,400 living understand what the signs are from spirit. Sometimes spirit needs to help you 56 00:03:36,479 --> 00:03:38,840 move through a difficult time, or they have a message that needs passing along. 57 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:44,719 Since his time with Eric Mentell Investigates, he has been hunting beasts, 58 00:03:44,879 --> 00:03:49,240 cryptids and aliens. This is something a bit out of his wheelhouse, but 59 00:03:49,319 --> 00:03:52,960 he finds he's enjoying it very much. Dominic, welcome back to the High 60 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:57,960 Strangers Factor. Thanks for having me on, and we hope that Eric can 61 00:03:58,039 --> 00:04:00,919 join us soon, so it'll be just like a real radio show where people 62 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,280 you know join in on the latter last minute. Yeah, I don't know 63 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,039 where he's at. He should have been here, but that's all right. 64 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,840 We could just pick on him the whole time, Okay, well, yeah, 65 00:04:11,919 --> 00:04:15,159 yeah, he'll have to actually listen to it in order to you know, 66 00:04:15,199 --> 00:04:17,240 feel bad. And there you go. I'll make sure I rub it 67 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:25,240 in. I'm gonna I'm going to keep the Facebook thing up here, and 68 00:04:25,399 --> 00:04:29,720 Casey says, I'm here. Okay, So I guess what I wanted to 69 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,040 start with. You guys were on before and we talked a lot about your 70 00:04:34,079 --> 00:04:39,920 investigations into the dog Man in Elkhorn, Wisconsin and your time spent on Lee 71 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:45,199 Hample's farm and that I mean I've been there myself. I've been able to 72 00:04:45,199 --> 00:04:49,040 see Lee's presentations. For those that don't know. Lee Hample has a farm 73 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,959 just I guess, inches away from Bray Road. He's had all kinds of 74 00:04:53,959 --> 00:04:59,079 bizarre phenomena there. He's taken photographs of what dominic over the last ten years, 75 00:04:59,199 --> 00:05:03,240 thousands of them. Of thousands, Yeah, easily with all these trap 76 00:05:03,319 --> 00:05:09,519 cameras that that that that that fire off and you can help me out here. 77 00:05:10,079 --> 00:05:16,240 You see things like classic flying saucers zipping around trees, drones, all 78 00:05:16,319 --> 00:05:21,759 kinds of bizarre stuff in the sky that by the timers. It doesn't stay 79 00:05:21,759 --> 00:05:27,480 there very long, it's just there and it's gone correct. Yeah, he's 80 00:05:27,759 --> 00:05:31,879 he's got Besides you know the drones, he's got these orbs that fly in 81 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:38,120 the sky and they kind of drift to the ground and then they disappear, 82 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:43,360 and there's multiple of them in the sky. Besides streams of life that come 83 00:05:43,439 --> 00:05:47,519 down from the sky and they stop before they hit the ground, and beams 84 00:05:47,519 --> 00:05:53,000 of light need to keep traveling. They don't stop. And these are cylindrical 85 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:59,120 and they're five foot long stream of light and then it just disappears. You 86 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,000 can be he has videos of that and pictures of that as well. Wow. 87 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,279 I know he's going to have another presentation coming up that I wish I 88 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:11,519 could go to. But when you're there, what what he does is you're 89 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,800 there for two hours, and of course you're only seeing a fraction of these 90 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,079 photographs, but there they'll just blow you away. He has he has, 91 00:06:17,319 --> 00:06:21,959 you know he I remember him saying that when he moved in there. Some 92 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,879 of the neighbors said, you know, there's a werewolf that lives in those 93 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:30,240 trees back there. And and here's here's Lee, who was a mathematician at 94 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:36,000 a chemist right, taught mathematics for decades in Yep. And uh, you 95 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,600 know, a man of science and there's a werewolf, and you know he's 96 00:06:40,639 --> 00:06:44,560 talking to incredible people that have seen this thing. And then he has seen 97 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,240 it at least twice. I think, yes, Yeah, he's seen it 98 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,439 a couple times when he was out in his field on his tractor and he 99 00:06:50,519 --> 00:06:56,560 stopped and he's got pictures of it kind of lumbering across the open fields. 100 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,199 Um, he's caught it worth standing up. It drops down all fours and 101 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,680 then walks on its knuckles. So yeah, you know he calls it a 102 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:10,920 knuckle walker, a square front, like the front feet would be square from 103 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:15,959 it walking on its knuckles. And the pictures he has of those prints that 104 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:21,040 it's left behind are huge. Wow. And there's five toad right correct, 105 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:27,399 in which it shouldn't exist with a pad and a heel. And the ones 106 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,079 that are are really remarkable are the if you can describe the ones that are 107 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:36,000 are in the snow, it's like they begin nowhere and nowhere, but they 108 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:41,480 do something really bizarre. Yeah, he has when it snows out in an 109 00:07:41,519 --> 00:07:46,160 elkhorn, I mean it gets deep, but he's got trails of footprints that 110 00:07:46,279 --> 00:07:50,639 go up and they go straight away from you and then they make an immediate 111 00:07:50,759 --> 00:07:57,800 right. And usually if it's four legged, you'll see four sets of prints 112 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,839 when it turns because of keeping it stability. These are just two feet and 113 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:07,480 it just turns like a normal person would, and the mount, the size 114 00:08:07,519 --> 00:08:11,519 of it is smaller than a human foot. But then he also has ones 115 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:16,680 that start going straight ahead, and then it morphs into two and it wise 116 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,720 and they go in different directions, and they'll go for about twenty feet and 117 00:08:20,759 --> 00:08:26,279 then just stop and there's no more print and there's nothing else there, So 118 00:08:26,519 --> 00:08:28,800 where did it go. It's bizarre. It's almost like he would have had 119 00:08:28,839 --> 00:08:33,360 to have his buddy on his shoulders and then it set them down gently so 120 00:08:33,519 --> 00:08:39,519 that they would walk apart to split, but then they disappear anyway, and 121 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:46,039 it's it's And then now he's gotten hair samples, and I think I have 122 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,039 this right. There's no medula. I mean, it's almost like the hair 123 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:56,720 is clear. It's translucent. So normal people and normal animals they'll have basically 124 00:08:56,759 --> 00:09:01,559 the center of it is where it grows from, and it'll have something there 125 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,919 where. This is like a hollow. It's just hollow tube of hair and 126 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,039 you can shine a light. He's got it under a microscope and has pictures 127 00:09:09,039 --> 00:09:13,840 of it under a microscope and it's just there's no modula. It's absent. 128 00:09:13,399 --> 00:09:18,320 So it's pretty interesting how that happened. So I wonder if you've given any 129 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,600 thought to this. We have these these beasts, I mean, they eat 130 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:30,240 road kill, they eat bait. Yeah, there's something, there's something that 131 00:09:31,039 --> 00:09:35,039 it's very difficult to photograph them. The cameras will sometimes fail when they go 132 00:09:35,039 --> 00:09:41,279 and grab the bait. Suggests there's something, some kind of intelligence or something 133 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,960 preventing that. But then in the backdrop, you've got all these bizarre things 134 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,799 in the sky, like there's some kind of technology there almost like it's say 135 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,679 a waste station or a Grand central station where the air is thin, so 136 00:09:54,799 --> 00:09:58,200 to speak, and these whatever they are, are going back and forth. 137 00:09:58,039 --> 00:10:05,720 You have any any idea of how how the two might be related, And 138 00:10:05,799 --> 00:10:09,679 that's something we've been investigating and looking at and we're trying to figure that out. 139 00:10:09,039 --> 00:10:13,840 I mean, you know you're talking about the cameras. These are triggered 140 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:18,399 and they take a picture every so many seconds when they're triggered. And when 141 00:10:18,399 --> 00:10:22,720 we were out there and we were doing our first investigation when we met you, 142 00:10:24,919 --> 00:10:28,120 we were out there and we went out to the field and it took 143 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,720 pictures of us setting up the bait area, and it took pictures of us 144 00:10:31,799 --> 00:10:35,519 walking around investigating. When we went back later that night for the night investigation 145 00:10:35,519 --> 00:10:41,879 to see if we could see anything, the camera shut off at like five 146 00:10:41,919 --> 00:10:46,279 o'clock and didn't start taking pictures again till seven or seven thirty in the morning. 147 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,440 And we were out there at night in front of the camera, walking 148 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:56,799 around and it never took a picture of us and never saw us. And 149 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:01,879 I think there was an incident when during the day when and what a team 150 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:09,600 which was taking drone shots and didn't you guys disappear off the screen or something 151 00:11:09,639 --> 00:11:15,320 like that. Yeah, we had our cameraman and Scott and we were out 152 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:20,519 there and he was just flying over the field and flying over the corn fields 153 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,919 next to it to see if we could see anything in the corn fields. 154 00:11:22,519 --> 00:11:26,840 And when we were driving to the back, he was following us. We 155 00:11:26,919 --> 00:11:30,639 got out of the truck and we started walking around and started investigating the cornfield 156 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,879 just at the edge. We didn't go into the cornfield, and he was 157 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,080 flying over us. Then all of a sudden, he's like, where did 158 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,720 you guys go. We hear him shouting, where did you guys go? 159 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:48,000 And he lifted up. He uses VR glasses so he doesn't get any interruptions, 160 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,360 and he had to lift them up, and he looked and he saw 161 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,759 us, and we were still in the same spot. Then he looks up 162 00:11:52,799 --> 00:11:56,000 and he couldn't find his drone. His drone disappeared. He put his glasses 163 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,279 back on to try to get some bearing where he was, and then all 164 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,559 of a sudden we were back and a drone was back. But the whole 165 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,200 time, I mean, we could hear the drone in the air, but 166 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:11,200 didn't know where it went. It sounds it sounds eererly like the uh the 167 00:12:11,279 --> 00:12:16,519 technical glitches that occurs on the Skinwalker Ranch. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, 168 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:24,240 And there's a lot of similarities between that and Lee's field. Um, tell 169 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,440 us go through that, uh that that night investigation. But people can see 170 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:33,120 by the way, what's it up? What where do they go to find 171 00:12:33,159 --> 00:12:39,000 your YouTube videos? It's Eric Mentell investigates on YouTube and it's the Beast of 172 00:12:39,039 --> 00:12:43,480 Bray Road And this is the first investigation you guys did, and it is 173 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,840 creepy as hell. But tell kind of go through that and you were out 174 00:12:46,879 --> 00:12:52,240 there with Eric and Ellen Ellen Collins right correct. Yeah. Ellen Collins is 175 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:58,440 she's the one that she's our Wisconsin branch of Eric Mentell Investigates, and she's 176 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,519 the one that actually funded this instigation and did a great job. I mean, 177 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,559 she was out there with us in the thick and her son, Scott 178 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,360 was our drone operator, and we were out there. When we first got 179 00:13:09,399 --> 00:13:13,519 out there, you know, we landed the airport, we got to meet 180 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,879 them. We drove down to Lee's farm to go see what was going on, 181 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,399 to meet Lee and his brother Fred, and you know, we meet 182 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,120 them, We talked to them, we get their story, and we wanted 183 00:13:24,159 --> 00:13:26,360 to go out to the field. So that's when we went out to the 184 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:31,879 field with Scott and drove down towards the back corner, and that's when Scott 185 00:13:31,919 --> 00:13:35,159 lost us on the drone. So right away things were starting to happen. 186 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,840 When we got back to where the bait area is where Lee has his experiments 187 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:45,600 set up to try to capture the beast to a picture of it, he 188 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,840 was telling us about this strange mist that came up from the ground and then 189 00:13:48,879 --> 00:13:54,240 he showed us pictures. When we got back to his barn and the mist 190 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,960 he had road killed deer, laid them in the back in a certain area 191 00:13:58,759 --> 00:14:05,639 and laid it down in the tall grass and left. Came back the next 192 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:13,279 day. Hello, dear, was moving now I'm still here. Okay, 193 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:18,960 Yeah, I don't know whether cut out, but yes, I remember saying 194 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,039 those pictures where you, uh, he's got the whatever the night vision. 195 00:14:24,559 --> 00:14:28,639 H you see the carcass there, the miss shows up and then you know 196 00:14:28,679 --> 00:14:33,480 sometimes passes you know from the from the time staff, and then it's gone, 197 00:14:33,039 --> 00:14:37,200 yep, and there's no sign of it. No no drag marks, 198 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,039 no footprints. Correct, Yeah, there was nothing. And I think he's 199 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:45,759 repeated that experiment about a dozen times. He has. And the strangest thing 200 00:14:45,759 --> 00:14:50,440 about it is is that you know, he had sixteen or seventeen road killed 201 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,960 deer back there at one point, and all of them had disappeared. One 202 00:14:54,000 --> 00:15:01,159 of them was surgically cut and the basically the leg and part of the shoulder 203 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,639 were just gone and it was surgically cut straight down without any There was no 204 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,840 jagged edges or anything like that. So it was it was removed. You 205 00:15:09,879 --> 00:15:13,720 know, it wasn't bitten off or chewed off. It was just removed so 206 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:20,840 and he has pictures of stuff like that all the time. Yeah. I 207 00:15:20,879 --> 00:15:24,399 think he even tried to put a tracker on one of the carcases, didn't 208 00:15:24,399 --> 00:15:28,720 he that, Yeah, he was talking about doing that. I believe he 209 00:15:28,799 --> 00:15:33,120 did do it, and the tracker was gone and they couldn't find the tracker. 210 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,519 So there's there's so many electronic disturbances in that back part of the field, 211 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,720 and it's where the wetlands are and it kind of cuts across the property. 212 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:50,399 But there's just so many electronic disturbances. Your cell phone won't work, 213 00:15:50,799 --> 00:15:54,320 flashlights go on and off. You try to use a radio and it cuts 214 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,360 out all the time. So, I mean, there's a bunch of different 215 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,519 things. We had got to set up a go pro when we were out 216 00:16:02,519 --> 00:16:06,480 there the second time. We had the bait area and we set up some 217 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:11,559 mannequin with meat, meat and stuff hanging on them, and we set up 218 00:16:11,559 --> 00:16:15,559 a GoPro so we could get pictures. And Scott was having problems getting the 219 00:16:15,559 --> 00:16:19,799 gopro's working. He switched i think two three cameras before he was able to 220 00:16:19,799 --> 00:16:23,600 get it to connect to to be able to record. And when he went 221 00:16:23,639 --> 00:16:29,080 back and checked the footage. It was all corrupted and even cars that are 222 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,000 parked out there by his barn the lights all flash, yeah, headlights all 223 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:38,320 flash on, it off without the carding turned on. It's it is bizarre. 224 00:16:38,399 --> 00:16:42,279 It is very bizarre crazy. And before you come on and talk about 225 00:16:42,279 --> 00:16:48,759 that night, h like you said, the Lee's gotten pictures of there's a 226 00:16:48,759 --> 00:16:52,519 photograph of him in daylight surrounded by a mist but he didn't see the mist 227 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:59,600 yep at that particular time. And also he's had a couple instances where he's 228 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,039 had miss time. He saw one of these things once and he didn't realize 229 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,880 till later. He just you know, he just realized it was it turned 230 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,160 out to be midnight when he thought it was going to be about ten or 231 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,400 eleven. And anyway, so a couple of times, I mean, everything 232 00:17:12,519 --> 00:17:19,599 has happened there missing time. There's more than one type of cryptod out there. 233 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,839 I believe that Lee says he's seen or or at least different footprints. 234 00:17:25,599 --> 00:17:32,960 Yes, yeah, he's He's ran into a bunch of different objects m portals 235 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:40,079 on his property orbs that he's seen that danced across his dash in his truck 236 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,000 with the naked eye couldn't see it, but through a camera he could see 237 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,720 the ORB dancing. And he had one of his friends that was standing outside 238 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:56,279 the truck and he was looking through the camera and through some flear lenses and 239 00:17:56,039 --> 00:17:59,920 he said to his friend, Hey, there's an ORB right next to you. 240 00:18:00,039 --> 00:18:03,480 When the guy says where all of a sudden it passed through the guy 241 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,480 and he's like, just passed through you And he said, oh, I 242 00:18:06,519 --> 00:18:11,400 got a chill, and then it disappeared. But his friend never saw it 243 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,240 but felt it. So Yeah, and it's very interesting some of the stuff 244 00:18:15,279 --> 00:18:19,160 that he's that he has. And also Andy, he's got photographs of what 245 00:18:19,279 --> 00:18:25,680 looks like a beam of light shooting down and it refracts, it bends a 246 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:30,559 little bit, which should be impossible. Yeah, are you strange? So 247 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,960 with with all that, you know, all that going on, with all 248 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,440 that baggage, you guys go you go out there in trepid investigators. It's 249 00:18:38,519 --> 00:18:44,519 dark. Uh just the corner is high and uh and and you and Dominic 250 00:18:44,599 --> 00:18:48,160 you you you talk you We'll have you talk about what you were what you 251 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,799 were feeling being the uh the the the guy that tunes into the cosmic vibrations. 252 00:18:52,079 --> 00:18:56,799 How how you were picking up some stuff. But anyway, tell us 253 00:18:56,839 --> 00:19:00,960 what's how this unfolded that night. Well, we went out and you know, 254 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:06,519 we were there in the morning and we set up what we wanted to 255 00:19:06,519 --> 00:19:08,720 stet up, and we were going to go back later that night. So 256 00:19:08,759 --> 00:19:11,480 when we went back later on at night, we sat in Lee's barn. 257 00:19:11,599 --> 00:19:15,960 Lee gave us a talk, showed us some pictures that he had at that 258 00:19:15,039 --> 00:19:19,599 time, told us some of the stories, and we started our night investigation. 259 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,720 It was raining that day and we weren't sure if we're going to be 260 00:19:23,759 --> 00:19:29,160 able to do anything in the field with the rain. We walked out the 261 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,799 back of the barn and the rain stopped, so we took a look to 262 00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:36,440 the right. We took a look to the left and there was lightning and 263 00:19:36,519 --> 00:19:41,799 flashing all going on, you know, a couple miles away, and we 264 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,319 go drive back down to the back corner and when we get off, we 265 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,759 we took some quads and we took a truck. When we got off the 266 00:19:48,799 --> 00:19:52,720 quads and got out of the truck, I looked up and the sky was 267 00:19:52,839 --> 00:19:59,720 crystal clear just over top of his field. So it was still cloudy, 268 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,839 and the lightning was still going on to the left. It was still cloudy 269 00:20:03,079 --> 00:20:07,400 lightning going on to the right, but over his field it was crystal clear. 270 00:20:07,079 --> 00:20:12,640 That's crazy, and that's what really it drew my attention because I saw 271 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:17,960 them the stars, and I went wow. And I'm looking up at the 272 00:20:18,039 --> 00:20:22,720 stars and all of a sudden I see this white orb white light in the 273 00:20:22,759 --> 00:20:26,400 sky. And I said to Eric, I said, Eric, what the 274 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,519 hell is that? And he looks up and he goes, oh, my 275 00:20:30,599 --> 00:20:34,000 god. Ellen looked up, Scott took pointed the camera up to the sky 276 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,480 and there was this beam of light and all of a sudden, it just 277 00:20:37,519 --> 00:20:44,200 started moving and it moved quicker than a plane. It was heading directly towards 278 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,240 a plane. It made a forty five degree angle and disappeared. Wow. 279 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:53,039 And it was so quick when it happened, and we just sat there and 280 00:20:53,079 --> 00:20:56,160 we were just in awe. It just all of a sudden. We were 281 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:03,319 out there not even five minutes and there was there was a UFL so that 282 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,920 started off the night. It's still over top of the whole field was crystal 283 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,519 clear, beautiful sky. So we kept looking up and we started walking around 284 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:19,279 and within ten to fifteen minutes we were there. We hit a trifecta. 285 00:21:19,559 --> 00:21:26,839 We saw the UFO. The second thing we heard was the howl that guttural 286 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,759 house red and you know, everybody's like, oh, it sounds like a 287 00:21:30,759 --> 00:21:33,920 train whistle. No, it doesn't sound like a train whistle. It didn't 288 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,920 sound like a wolf. It didn't sound like a coyote. This was something 289 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:45,680 entirely different. And the first time we heard it it was probably about fifteen 290 00:21:45,759 --> 00:21:52,640 hundred yards away. The second one we heard was probably about three to five 291 00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:56,279 hundred yards away, and it was louder. The third one we heard was 292 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,799 about one hundred to one hundred and fifty yards way, and it was really 293 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:07,960 really loud. And we were wearing small Lavalier mics on our lapels, so 294 00:22:08,039 --> 00:22:12,440 they're they're more directional to cut out the noise from around, so if there's 295 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:18,119 background noise, it only picks up the person when they're talking. And you 296 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:23,480 could hear on the video you could hear this thing. How it was absolutely 297 00:22:23,519 --> 00:22:29,119 amazing. Scared that but Jesus out of us. And you know, I 298 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,400 was trying to tune in, trying to do something with what my gift, 299 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,200 and the only thing I kept saying to Eric is we need to go we're 300 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:42,359 not safe, and Eric was, you know, more important about our health 301 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:48,680 and didn't leave me there, which I was thankful for because everybody knows Eric 302 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:56,000 would do that. Son of all the proceeds correct. But the thing is, 303 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:02,200 people can hear these howls on that tape, and I'm no expert on 304 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,599 animals sounds, but that was creepy as hell. It sounded like there was 305 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,440 at least one on one side of you and one on the other, like 306 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,279 you were in betwitter. And then didn't you see I shine about six feet 307 00:23:12,319 --> 00:23:15,319 off the ground, And that was that was the thing when we heard we 308 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,400 heard the first howl. Then we heard the second hal. I was saying 309 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,759 this God, and I was telling Ellen and Eric. I said, shine 310 00:23:22,759 --> 00:23:25,559 your lights over there where we heard the hal coming from. I said, 311 00:23:25,599 --> 00:23:29,519 we'll see something. And we're in a We're in a hay field. So 312 00:23:29,559 --> 00:23:33,599 the hay was already cut down, but on either side three sides of us 313 00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:38,240 were cornfields that were still up. And we started shining the lights and we 314 00:23:38,319 --> 00:23:42,759 didn't see it at first until afterwards when Eric was reviewing it, we got 315 00:23:42,759 --> 00:23:48,440 eyeshine. So that was that was the second thing. So we heard we 316 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,559 had the UFO, and then we had the house. The third thing, 317 00:23:52,279 --> 00:23:56,400 we started walking up a little bit more towards the barn and we were just 318 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,720 kind of walking up to see if we could get a different angle, and 319 00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:02,680 all of a sudden, Eric goes, oh, my god, and I 320 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,640 went what And he's like, there's a mist. And Scott shined the camera 321 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,599 down to the ground and there was a mist coming up from the ground. 322 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,960 And that was all within fifteen minutes. And I kept saying, Eric, 323 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,000 they're behind us. I can hear rustling of the corn. I'm like, 324 00:24:18,079 --> 00:24:22,799 we're not safe. We need to go. And He's like, I agree, 325 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,279 let's get out of here. We'll beat feet and run. So everybody 326 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,079 got in the vehicles and we went back up to Lee's barn. And you 327 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,039 told me when I talked to you the first time that you said you felt 328 00:24:33,079 --> 00:24:40,440 like you were in a shark cage underwater holding the shark bait. Exactly. 329 00:24:40,519 --> 00:24:45,440 Yeah. I felt like I was the shart So yeah, I mean it 330 00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:47,440 was crazy. I said that to Eric. I said, you know, 331 00:24:47,599 --> 00:24:52,000 I felt safer hunting Bigfoot and the pine barrens than I did on Lee's feel. 332 00:24:52,920 --> 00:25:00,559 The uneasiness, feeling and just everything that happened, and hearing the rustling 333 00:25:00,599 --> 00:25:04,039 of noise. There was more than one beast out there, absolutely with the 334 00:25:04,079 --> 00:25:10,559 three different howls, and you could distinctly hear three different howls. It wasn't 335 00:25:10,599 --> 00:25:15,839 the same one moving closer. It was just three different ones. And we 336 00:25:15,839 --> 00:25:18,160 were close to the corn and I said to Eric, I was afraid when 337 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,400 we were riding the quads back, something would have just reached out of the 338 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,599 corner and grabbed us. So we kind of moved towards the middle of the 339 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,359 field a little bit more to keep safe. But yeah, it was. 340 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:37,279 It was absolutely wild. So we had bait set up down near the area 341 00:25:37,319 --> 00:25:40,400 where we were at, so we I you know, looking back at a 342 00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:45,880 hindsight, we were too close to where that bait was, so we became 343 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,200 the beat. So and you know, nobody's ever been attacked by the beast. 344 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,599 People have seen it and it runs away. I don't know what it 345 00:25:53,599 --> 00:26:00,559 would do with meat and bone that are there with us next to it, 346 00:26:00,599 --> 00:26:04,559 whether we would have gotten taken or not. Do you think that if you're 347 00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:10,039 hearing three of them, they were communicating with each other and that that is 348 00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:14,599 a good possibility there could have been one scout and the other ones that was 349 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,720 calling them closer. Who knows. It could have been a family at that 350 00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:26,160 point too. And it's very underving. Yeah, so you know, And 351 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,160 that was the thing. Like when we went back the second time, we 352 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,400 were able to go into the corn was down. We went back the second 353 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,039 time, so we were able to walk into the fields and go over towards 354 00:26:37,079 --> 00:26:41,880 the woods that were there, and Ellen and I actually went into the woods 355 00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:45,839 and we were following a trail and I can only assume it was a deer 356 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:52,759 trail, but we came to a clearing inside the woods and in that clearing 357 00:26:52,839 --> 00:26:56,240 was a small pond. So there was a water source right there on just 358 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,359 right next to Lee's property as well as tall or grass and you could see 359 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,400 where that was. Something was bed down. Again. It could have been 360 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,519 a deer or it could have been the beast. I don't know. But 361 00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:11,119 we had an interview with a guy. He didn't want to be on camera. 362 00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:18,160 We were able to get him on tape and he is a worker that 363 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,440 works for utility and him and his partner. There's quarry real close to Lee's 364 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,319 property as well, right at the end of Bray Road, and he was 365 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:33,880 saying that him and his partner went out to the quarry and when they got 366 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,720 out of the truck, they heard this howl and he said it was the 367 00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:41,799 scariest thing ever. It was during the day and he said it was the 368 00:27:41,839 --> 00:27:45,240 scariest thing ever. He said, But you felt fear, he said, 369 00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:49,240 as soon as you heard that howl. So he had an experience. That 370 00:27:49,319 --> 00:27:55,319 was right there at the end of Bray Road near Lee's property. Because Lee's 371 00:27:55,319 --> 00:27:59,599 property is about two tenths away from Bray Road. The back end of his 372 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,440 property there's an adjoining field and then it's Bray Road, so his properties real 373 00:28:04,519 --> 00:28:10,839 close and they cut straight through his property all the time. And being that 374 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,000 he's feeding them trying to do experiments, I'm sure that now it's a highway, 375 00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:21,400 so they're constantly coming by there. Grief. Yeah, he's just he's 376 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:29,880 just calling them in. I guess he doesn't have enough photographs. I guess 377 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,799 it's would be great if you know. Some of them have been posted on 378 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,519 Coast to Coast am Andy, But it's it's too bad you can't attend one 379 00:28:37,559 --> 00:28:41,759 of these things so you can see, uh see some of the photographs. 380 00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:45,839 What uh, let me let me quick let me do our station identification. 381 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,440 You are listening to the High Strangious Fact You're copyrighted on the Paranormal UK Radio 382 00:28:51,519 --> 00:28:56,880 network. Andy and I are talking to Dominic Stell about his investigations into the 383 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:06,039 Unexplained. Um. I still it's still such a problem to try and understand. 384 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:11,000 It's almost like these beasts are there to scare people away so that there 385 00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:17,000 people aren't observing the other stuff going on, you know, and I want 386 00:29:17,839 --> 00:29:18,799 I went way out on a limb one time and thought, well, what 387 00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:22,799 if these things are you know, we talk about tulpas and thought forms and 388 00:29:23,119 --> 00:29:27,279 so forth. What if these things are constructs? And that's why they don't 389 00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:33,160 have a medula, That's why they appear somewhere and then disappear. That's why 390 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,759 they split in two, because they're construct by some higher intelligence to try and 391 00:29:37,839 --> 00:29:42,599 keep people away. It's a crazy theory, and it may be faulty because 392 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,599 when these things show up, people flock there to try to see them, 393 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,240 so perhaps it's not working very well. But I still, I just I 394 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:56,559 can't get over the the what appears to be this super advanced technology that's so 395 00:29:56,599 --> 00:30:02,359 elusive, and then you have these we think of his brainless beasts at the 396 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,880 same time, and you know, it's strange. I mean, he has 397 00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:11,759 he has Lee has pictures of orbs in the sky and the orbs almost look 398 00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:17,839 like it almost looks like a cat's eye sideways, but you could almost distinctly 399 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,200 see a figure in the middle of it, and it's not an eyeball. 400 00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:26,119 And he there's multiple there's like five or six of them that were floating in 401 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:32,279 the sky and the one looked like it almost looked like Jesus with its arms 402 00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:37,079 out as it was coming down. Just absolutely bizarre some of the stuff he 403 00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:45,480 has. He has a photo of a UFO football and shape silver that is 404 00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:51,839 flying around a tree and he's got he's got pictures of it and it's maybe 405 00:30:52,599 --> 00:30:56,559 twenty feet off the ground and he's real close to it. It's not very 406 00:30:56,559 --> 00:31:00,319 it's not huge, but it's about the size of a car in the sky 407 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:06,640 with no wheel, and it's not it's not a doctored photo. And you 408 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,720 know, it's it's crazy to look at this and see it shape and you 409 00:31:10,759 --> 00:31:15,759 can actually make out ridges in the body of the of the saucer, so 410 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,759 it's really interesting. And didn't it zip around the tree really fast? I 411 00:31:19,759 --> 00:31:22,119 mean if you look at the time, snap, it was a later of 412 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,119 seconds. Yes, yeah, And that's the thing. It just it moves 413 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:32,480 and you know, and again he has these strange lights down in the field. 414 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,839 He has pictures of lights moving through the field behind the trees and oh 415 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:44,319 yeah, really really quick, excuse me, really really quick going by, 416 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,640 and he has them on film and you can see it. And it's not 417 00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:52,920 a car, it's not a truck, it's not a tractor running through there. 418 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,440 It's not sped up, and you can just see these things zipping by, 419 00:31:56,839 --> 00:32:01,039 one after another. Dominic. You guys are planning another excursion, right, 420 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:06,000 but I think I heard that you've got a much bigger area you can 421 00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:14,039 explore now. Yeah, we actually got permission from the other landowners attached with 422 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,240 Lee's property that we're going to be able to go out and investigate. So 423 00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:21,240 we have I think it's over one hundred and forty three acres we can now 424 00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:27,119 explore, so, which is awesome, and we're supposed to be we're scheduled 425 00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:30,799 to go back out September October again of this year. Well, what you 426 00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:35,559 want to do is, you know, watch a lot of scary movies that 427 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,640 have stupid people in them to get eaten and just and don't do what they 428 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:45,200 do. I'll stick together, don't don't have Eric say, hey, Dominant, 429 00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:46,599 go over there and check that out by those trees. You know. 430 00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:52,039 Now we're not going to separate. I said, that's not happening, and 431 00:32:52,119 --> 00:33:00,279 I'm going to make sure my my Waukee talkie has batteries in it. Well, 432 00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:05,240 now I understand that. Oh wait a minute, I got a message 433 00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:08,000 from Eric here. Okay, Wow, this is just like real radio. 434 00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:12,200 Let me try and to contact him. Hey, wait a minute, time 435 00:33:13,599 --> 00:33:17,720 what you got me into? Mintel? Hey, I'm sorry, but listen, 436 00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:21,680 I was on an investigation and I don't know what happened. Tom. 437 00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:24,480 I was in a portal and I just I just got out of it. 438 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,480 I knew he was going to come up with some lame excuse, you know, 439 00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:32,920 of course, Steve, my apologies, man, I'm so sorry for 440 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,599 being late here. Do not worry. We had we talked to Dominick. 441 00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:40,640 He gave us a great recap of Bray Road, and we talked about some 442 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,039 stuff we hadn't talked about before. And so shall we uh so we bring 443 00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:49,279 you in? Do you want you want me to do your intro. If 444 00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:52,000 you yeah, if you wanted to do that, I'm going to put you 445 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,160 on the speaker here and here you go. Okay, Eric, since since 446 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,680 I did, since I did the whole Beast of Bray Road, you can 447 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,519 do all the ghost stuff and normal. All right, that sounds good. 448 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:06,839 We're gonna do a UFOs over Pennsylvania too. I'll do the real I'll do 449 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,760 the real stuff, right and here you go. By the way, Eric, 450 00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:16,639 the check is going to be split in Dominic's favor this time. He 451 00:34:17,039 --> 00:34:22,280 was telling me about twenty five seventy five split you stick him with all the 452 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,840 time. Oh yeah, definitely, Oh absolutely, you know. And so 453 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:31,599 Steve, I'm gonna talk about all the mechanical estimating tonight. Oh yeah, 454 00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:37,519 okay, okay, this will be a good one. I can't wait. 455 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:44,280 Oh yeah, Steve wanted this. I did, didn't I. Yeah, 456 00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:47,960 we're having fun now, okay, Oh yeah, Andy, I'm gonna say, 457 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,840 okay, Eric h Mentel has just joined us, and I'll do his. 458 00:34:53,079 --> 00:34:57,920 Uh. His intro is so long it's gonna take up about three quarters 459 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,039 of the rest of the show. Willstell have a little time, that'll be 460 00:35:01,039 --> 00:35:07,119 all right? Okay, guys are you ready, I'm ready, Okay, 461 00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:12,320 just like real radio. Eric Montell has just joined us, and we won't 462 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,039 go through all the lame excuses he gave for being late. But let me 463 00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:21,199 let me go and go through with his stellar introduction. I think he probably 464 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,000 wrote it himself. For more than thirty years, Eric Montell has been an 465 00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:30,000 acclaimed jazz musician with his group the Eric Mentel Quartet. But later at night 466 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:35,920 Eric Montel investigates the paranormal. Eric was invited to perform twice at the White 467 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,480 House for President Clinton in nineteen ninety eight and for President Obama in twenty eleven. 468 00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:44,760 He was also invited to perform at the Kennedy Center over ten times from 469 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:49,559 nineteen ninety nine to two thousand and five, and also had a special concert 470 00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:52,559 at the United Nations in twenty ten. He has toured and performed around the 471 00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:58,199 country in concert halls, high schools, libraries, elementary schools, churches, 472 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,800 jazz clubs, and many Moore of us. A consummate professional in front of 473 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,840 the camera, Eric has been on television performing his music, as well as 474 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:12,079 being interviewed. Eric and spirit medium Dominics I tell nice that he mentioned Dominic 475 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:19,039 were recently featured on the cover of American Paranormal Magazine January February twenty twenty three. 476 00:36:19,199 --> 00:36:23,800 Eric has also had stories written up on his paranormal activities by numerous newspapers 477 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:30,159 and has been featured on many radio stations and podcasts across the country and around 478 00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:34,000 the world. Interested in the paranormal from a very young age, Eric has 479 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,719 led Eric Mantel investigates since twenty sixteen, seeking out strange stories to tell, 480 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:44,599 whether it's ghosts, UFOs, bigfoot, or dogman sightings. Fans of his 481 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:50,039 music have eagerly followed him into the paranormal world. On many an investigation, 482 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:55,239 Eric and his team have captured groundbreaking video footage and captured strange paranormal activity the 483 00:36:55,320 --> 00:37:00,039 likes of which never have been seen. Eric Mantel, Welcome back to the 484 00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:04,119 High Strangers Factor. Thank you, Thank you, Steve. And you know 485 00:37:04,159 --> 00:37:07,960 the strangest thing of all was meeting you for the first time on Bray Road. 486 00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:12,760 That's right along how we met. By the way, Andy Mercer is 487 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,679 here. Uh my co host from the UK. Andy, how you doing 488 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:22,760 man? Sorry for my tardiness, nothing problem until thank you, Thank you, 489 00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:27,719 and uh I was with a friend Brandy who is an occasional guest co 490 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,000 host here, and she told me she wanted to be on tonight. But 491 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:36,119 this kid works all the time. Her work is her work ethic is disgusting 492 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,519 as me as a man, as a man of a retired man of leisure. 493 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:43,360 It makes my head spending see how much. But anyway, she said 494 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,480 that she listens to your guys uh YouTube videos often. So cool. Anyway, 495 00:37:47,559 --> 00:37:53,480 she said to say, Hi, Well, she doesn't listen to the 496 00:37:53,480 --> 00:38:00,039 show dum um sony Like, yeah, she listens eagerly with every appisode. 497 00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:06,280 I'm just kidding. Oh my god, Steve, you know it's Steve has 498 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,519 got a great you always have such great energy, Steve, and that's what 499 00:38:08,559 --> 00:38:12,599 we love about you too, and great sense of humor. You know, 500 00:38:12,599 --> 00:38:15,039 we wouldn't be and if we're busting on you, that means that we love 501 00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:19,639 you. Well. I told before you came out, I told Dominic that 502 00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:22,519 I got Andy here in case you guys start picking up. There you go 503 00:38:23,079 --> 00:38:27,000 and you and he's got your he's got your back. But I'll tell you, 504 00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:30,519 yeah, it's been I know Dominic recapped Bray Road with you and it 505 00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:34,639 was just amazing, you know. And of course I'm sure he told you 506 00:38:34,639 --> 00:38:37,280 we're going back in September. Um, yes, but we feel that means 507 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,880 oh yeah, definitely. Well, you know it's it's cats out of the 508 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,000 bag. I mean, we just didn't. We just did an investigation, 509 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,000 uh the other night at a at a haunted library, which is really cool. 510 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,239 We're getting a lot of different UM investigations now in a lot of really 511 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,480 unique locations. You know. Now it's a library. Who would have thought 512 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:02,400 a haunted library and libraries out in Reading, Pennsylvania and um, and it 513 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:07,719 comes come to find out there is a series of cave systems behind under the 514 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:14,079 library and actually under the entire area that we were in so much so the 515 00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:17,079 one one year, the gentleman that was with us, Charles Adams, UM 516 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:22,599 told us that the parking lot of the local I guess it was the Walmart 517 00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:27,760 or some kind of shoppings at the right time, Yeahart, it completely caved 518 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,199 in. So there's some really yeah, there's some really weird stuff going on 519 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:36,559 out there. UM. And just in our investigations, I mean, i'll 520 00:39:36,559 --> 00:39:38,320 tell you, you know, within fifteen minutes, stuff happens. And I 521 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:45,719 totally attributed it to Dominic because he's like He's like a magnet with these things. 522 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,320 That's like wherever we go, whether it's Bray Road, uh, you 523 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,639 know, the bryn Ath and beast over in bryn Ath and uh and the 524 00:39:51,679 --> 00:39:54,639 ghosts you know that we're we've been investigating, you know. And I say 525 00:39:54,639 --> 00:39:58,599 this Steve too, you know, in the ghost situations, you know, 526 00:39:58,639 --> 00:40:00,440 I go into that a lot of time. I'm skeptically because I want to 527 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:05,400 see really what people are seeing and what are they feeling. And having dom 528 00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:10,159 on the case, he's able to pinpoint all the history and all of the 529 00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:15,920 paranormal activity that I know. I don't tell Dominic until we get to that 530 00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:19,119 venue. And it's amazing to see him, and it's really great to get 531 00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:22,159 it on camera of him going into those hot spots, you know, and 532 00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:27,360 then corroborating what I already know. And it's just amazing how that happens. 533 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,440 And then not only that, then we're capturing all of these other energies in 534 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:36,639 these other areas and then getting names. He's getting names of people, and 535 00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:43,599 then it's basically like a whole story that's unfolding. It's incredible. One thing 536 00:40:43,639 --> 00:40:46,559 I wanted to do before we go on with that, I meant to as 537 00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:52,239 part of the recap. One week after that investigation into Bray Road, you 538 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,960 guys went to the Pine Barrens, right, yes, yes, tell us 539 00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:00,000 about that experience. Well, I'll tell you and then I'll let dom say. 540 00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:04,679 Um. You know, we we met up with Eric Spinner, who 541 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,760 was a great big big foot researcher, and his partner Art mac Um. 542 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:14,480 I've known Eric for a number of years and he said, look, you 543 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,679 know there's been a lot of juvenile big foot sightings going on here in the 544 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:21,360 in this area called the Bowl in the Pine Barrens. Do you guys want 545 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,440 to come out and do a video? And I said, yeah, let's 546 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,000 do it. Let's just get let's get it done. So we went out 547 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,400 there a week after Elkhorn and this was October eleventh to night of October eleventh, 548 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:36,320 and we get out there, we go about what five miles into the 549 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,159 Pine barons. Thank god we had Dominic's truck because there this road that we 550 00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:45,159 were on, the fire roads were so like I mean, the crate they 551 00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:49,039 were like the potholes were almost like craters. I mean yet almost the size 552 00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:52,320 of the truck. Yeah, swallowed Eric's car definitely, it would have that 553 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,920 Toyota would have been under the water, but it was. It was crazy. 554 00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,360 So we went five miles into the pine barrens and then Um got out 555 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:07,039 of the truck what about six hundred yards into the into the woods and set 556 00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:10,599 up a base camp. And then we started, like, you know, 557 00:42:10,679 --> 00:42:14,760 just talking to them, to Eric and Art, about their research, what 558 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:19,079 they do, how they how they go about it, and what's the protocols 559 00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:22,199 for you know, researching and investigating Bigfoot. And then I'll let you handle 560 00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:25,280 the rest on them. Then what happened after that? I was I was 561 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,280 talking with Art and I was interviewing him and asking him how long he was 562 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,840 doing it. And then all the sudden Eric was just like he starts shoohing 563 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,320 me, and I'm like what, And all of a sudden we hear a 564 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:43,960 whoop and it's it's a it's like a child whoop. It's it's not an 565 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:49,760 adult. And it happened. And then Eric Spinner's wife, Heather, She's 566 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,800 like, do you want me to answer it back? And Eric Spinner said 567 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:57,119 yes, so she answered it back and this went on for probably about three 568 00:42:57,159 --> 00:43:02,360 to five minutes. She was whooping back at this thing that was whooping at 569 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:07,039 her, and they were kind of having a conversation. And these guys were 570 00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:10,639 in the middle of nowhere. It's unlikely that somebody was out there messing with 571 00:43:10,679 --> 00:43:15,079 you. Oh correct, No doubt, no doubt. Five six miles back 572 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:20,400 on a fire road in the pine barrens of New Jersey, which it's all 573 00:43:20,519 --> 00:43:23,960 sand and there's pine trees, that's all it is, and there there was 574 00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:30,320 thousand totally. Yeah, and it's literally they call it a fire road because 575 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:35,039 it's a break in the trees to help stop fires from crossing to go to 576 00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:39,480 other sections of the trees. So it was just it was absolutely amazing. 577 00:43:39,519 --> 00:43:44,119 But it was all within five to ten minutes we were out there. This 578 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:49,280 happened, Yeah, and then like Dominics said, it kept whooping back and 579 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,119 forth. And then what we kept hearing though was this big rustling sound going 580 00:43:53,159 --> 00:43:58,880 on. And then Dominics starts and then Art also because we had talked about 581 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,119 this as well, but we saw like little red pin points of light, 582 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,880 you know, and it was like, this is a weird phenomena. And 583 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,599 that's another thing that these guys have been seeing as well in the wood. 584 00:44:09,679 --> 00:44:14,559 It's like these little red pin points of light um and this thing seemed to 585 00:44:14,599 --> 00:44:17,280 be going away from us. But uh, you know, if that was 586 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:22,880 the juvenile bigfoot, that's what that was. That was the bigger rustling sound. 587 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,840 We always said was had to be mama mama bear so to speak, 588 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,079 checked in the cub. Yeah, but it's definitely not a bear, that's 589 00:44:31,079 --> 00:44:35,559 for damn sure. Because it was. It was. It was the weirdest 590 00:44:35,559 --> 00:44:38,239 thing, Steve. I mean, it was like this whoop, and I 591 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:43,280 mean just for it to keep answering back and like you, like you said, 592 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,920 there's and there was not a soul around yep, And Dominic again described 593 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,840 the difference in feeling and being out there was what could have been a big 594 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:57,679 foot and compared to the beast on Bray Road. Yeah, Like like I 595 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,400 had said it, I felt safer out of the Pine Barons than I did 596 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:05,920 out on Lee Hampel's field. You know, as I described, I felt 597 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,880 like I was in a shark tank in the water and I was holding the 598 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:14,280 bait strapped to me out in Lee's field. When we were out in the 599 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:20,480 Pine Barons, I didn't feel there was any aggression. I didn't feel unsafe. 600 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,119 It's just a total different feeling from what it was at Bray Road. 601 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:31,440 Bray Road, there's definitely some kind of a portal or something out there that's 602 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,800 that's not I don't want to say it's evil, but it's not good. 603 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,599 It's not good. But in the Pine Barons very it was very calm, 604 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:45,119 very peaceful, the whooping, even though we heard the rustling around us. 605 00:45:45,159 --> 00:45:49,760 I never once felt like we were in any danger, and neither did Steve. 606 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,320 I mean I didn't feel that way either. I even told them, 607 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,679 I said, look, we had the night vision on it, and I 608 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,639 had said at one point, why don't we turn the lights off so folks 609 00:45:57,639 --> 00:46:00,599 at home could see what? You know, what we're seeing. And basically 610 00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:04,559 it was pitch black. You could see you couldn't see your hand in front 611 00:46:04,599 --> 00:46:06,280 of your face. You know, it was that black. It was. 612 00:46:06,599 --> 00:46:09,599 It was that dark. Um. But we only had like a little slipper 613 00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:12,440 of a moon too, right, Tom, there was only Yeah, it 614 00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:15,920 was. It wasn't overcast. It was a nice night, but yeah, 615 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,320 there was no moon. Yes, the whole thing that, that whole night 616 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,199 was wild man, I mean, getting a trifecta of paranormal activity on Lee's 617 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:28,159 farm, and then the following week Bigfoot. That was just a whole thing. 618 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,599 And I'm sure he told you to have the power went out in Elcorn 619 00:46:30,639 --> 00:46:36,679 after that investigation, right, yeah, the power went out that night, 620 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,280 man, So it was something was weird. That was a weird time frame. 621 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,280 And then we just did this video and I found out from Charlie who 622 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:50,039 did who was on the investigation with us last Sunday. April thirty apparently is 623 00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:53,639 the where the veil is the thinnest. It's like the halfway point from now 624 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:59,760 until Halloween. And that was it was April thirty, and it's a German 625 00:47:00,159 --> 00:47:02,880 and I can't remember what he what he called it, but uh, if 626 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,119 I try to pronounce it, I'll sound y'all won't make it. But it 627 00:47:07,559 --> 00:47:14,000 definitely wasn't October Fest, right, No, No, it was like with 628 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,519 with with forkin or something. I who knows. I don't know, but 629 00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:20,679 I think I don't try and say it, you might end up saying some 630 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:27,000 kind of a foul word. It will, and I'll let Dom take it 631 00:47:27,039 --> 00:47:31,400 from there. Because you know those Italians, Steve, you know how they 632 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:39,599 talk with their hands, right, that's a good thing. I can imagine 633 00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:44,920 the gestures that might be flying. Oh, my god. Yeah, Eric, 634 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,880 you talked to a lady once I think that saw a big foot and 635 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,880 she said it kind of it started to become hard to see. It became 636 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:58,280 pixelated or something like that, or yes, yes, this was weird, 637 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:04,320 man. I mean I actually I read an account in this publication, The 638 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:08,320 Guardian, and it was an account of a woman and her husband in Wisconsin. 639 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:14,199 I think it was Bloyd, Wisconsin, so maybe thirty thirty minutes from 640 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,920 Elkhorn, and they're on the side of the road. They're driving down the 641 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,119 road and they look over and she sees this thing, this creature dog or 642 00:48:22,159 --> 00:48:27,039 whatever. She thought it was along the tree line, and it was pretty 643 00:48:27,039 --> 00:48:31,199 far away, so they couldn't stop right then and there. So they turned 644 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:37,519 around and when they turned around at her window was now toward the field and 645 00:48:37,639 --> 00:48:40,440 the tree line right, so she was looking at it that way now that 646 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:45,159 the car was the other way. So all of a sudden, this thing's 647 00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:50,400 coming up to the car, and she had a feeling of like, oh, 648 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,400 you know, like wonderment, like what the hell's this? And all 649 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:57,239 of a sudden, though, as it got closer, it started getting harder 650 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,079 to see, which was really weird. She said, the edge of it 651 00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:06,920 looked like it was getting pixelated, and then it laid down right almost maybe 652 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,599 not even two hundred feet from the car, and then both of them, 653 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,559 the husband and wife, had this extreme sense of fear and got out of 654 00:49:15,559 --> 00:49:20,079 there. So it was very very strange. So I don't know what she 655 00:49:20,199 --> 00:49:23,440 was seeing, but the way she described this thing was like the head was 656 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:29,000 like diamond shaped and the body was like almost like a bulldog, but with 657 00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:35,519 longer legs. Well, that's very weird kind of effect, you know. 658 00:49:35,519 --> 00:49:39,159 It's been was reported by the Sherman's when they owned the skin Walker ranch back 659 00:49:39,159 --> 00:49:42,599 on the nineties. I think it was there was some kind I was on 660 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,280 incident where they they saw this thing come out of the woods, and later 661 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:50,440 on they saw the movie Predator and they thought, well, that was kind 662 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,719 of the effect that they saw. Okay, you're you're familiar with David Politis 663 00:49:54,760 --> 00:50:01,079 and Missing four one one yell in the book on Hunters, the uh who 664 00:50:01,159 --> 00:50:07,519 was at jan mccabee. She was in a deer blind and she saw this 665 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,360 uh sort of a shimmer effect, this blurring effect in the trees. This 666 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:15,760 thing was moving around. She everything got real quiet. She took a photograph, 667 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:20,960 and her husband, Bruce mccabee, you know, an expert on photography. 668 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:23,599 They look at it. You look at that thing and there's like black 669 00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:29,360 hairs coming out the side of it. And at the same time, their 670 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,519 nephew was a band practice at the high school about a half mile away. 671 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:38,679 They saw this big blowing orb over the high school area. So and then 672 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:44,239 there's just one more example, a valley of the Schookum. Sally Shepherd Wolford 673 00:50:44,519 --> 00:50:49,320 wrote the book her friend Yodie Native American lady. They would they would see 674 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,519 that. They'd called it the shimmer, and the tradition was that was the 675 00:50:52,559 --> 00:50:59,760 portal that Bigfoot would step through. And even Tom Powell, who was a 676 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:04,920 bi is a bigfoot researcher, he calls it the quicksilver curtain. And he's 677 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,360 talked to several bigfoot investigators that look at bigfoot is a very flesh and blood 678 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:14,000 animal, have also seen that. So this is something that does show up. 679 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:19,719 And that's kind of creepy that that these things may have some way to 680 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,000 camouflage themselves, and you know, it's it's it's it's cry enough to think 681 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,360 that they're out there anyway. It might step on the dark. Well, 682 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,440 that's what I think. I think that's really That's one of the things that 683 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:35,239 we're looking at with Lees, with a lot of Lee's photos and his research, 684 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,840 is that the hair samples that he got, you know, when you 685 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:42,960 put them under the microscope, those hair samples are like translucent. So I'm 686 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,840 wondering if that's the case, is does this have some kind of like some 687 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:51,159 kind of cloaking ability. It's almost like like if you know how deer are 688 00:51:51,199 --> 00:51:53,360 so great at blending into their environment, you could a deer could be right 689 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,280 there and you could like hardly see it, you know. Um. And 690 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,840 it was a case at some point I was like, right across the street 691 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,159 here from my house that our dog is barking, and like what is he 692 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,360 barking at? And I had a look and strained my eyes, and there 693 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,719 it was was there was a deer over there. And it was so that 694 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:13,000 could be the thing with big Foot or dog Man, that these things are 695 00:52:13,039 --> 00:52:16,760 like just able to absorb their surroundings and they're there but you just can't see 696 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:22,239 them, you know, I asked Dominic earlier, Uh, you have this 697 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:28,639 sort of paradox where you have these creatures that leave footprints uh, you know, 698 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:35,079 they're well, they leave footprints sometimes, let's put it that way. 699 00:52:32,679 --> 00:52:37,880 Yeah, they eat bait, they eat road kill. They act like animals, 700 00:52:37,199 --> 00:52:43,920 yet they they're surrounded by this apparently this bizarre technology. And also when 701 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,960 you try and get photographs of them, sometimes the technology fails, like there's 702 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:52,400 some kind of an intelligence or force that's protecting them. You have any any 703 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,199 you know, that's something I've been been trying to deal with. You have 704 00:52:55,239 --> 00:53:01,760 any idea how those two fit together? Go ahead? I wish, I 705 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:07,320 wish I could. I honestly, I you know, we sit there and 706 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,840 we talk and we say, you know, is there a phenomena that links 707 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:19,199 bigfoot and aliens? Are are the aliens dropping Bigfoot off? And are Sack 708 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:24,280 actually made a good point and said he's wondering if the aliens are actually picking 709 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:30,119 them up to experiment on them, because they are able to hide and be 710 00:53:30,159 --> 00:53:35,639 able to do this stuff, whereas we humans do not have that. So 711 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,840 he was, you know, he's like, I don't think they're actually depositing 712 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,480 them. He's like, I think they're putting them back where they picked them 713 00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:46,679 up from. And when you see a UFO and Bigfoot together, could it 714 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:52,320 be that that's what he was saying too. Could it be that the aliens 715 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,360 are actually, you know, examining and doing all these tests on Bigfoot, 716 00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:01,760 you know, or is Bigfoot and extraterrestrial or maybe it's just something I think 717 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:06,760 of it as sort of a paranormal diorama. Sometimes perhaps the whole thing is 718 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,199 projected or staged. And maybe it's too simplistic to think that the UFO is 719 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:15,039 coming down letting Bigfoot out to stretch his legs, you know, may not, 720 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,960 it may not be quite that simple. But you know the photo that 721 00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:22,639 Lee has which really intrigued me a lot, and it's it's of these orbs 722 00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:27,199 in the middle of the daytime. You could see these these clear orbs. 723 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,320 I don't know if you saw those Steves, but I'll tell you if they're 724 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,880 little orbs that you could see, they're Plaine is day and inside the orb 725 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,679 it looks like the creature or something is inside the orb in like a t 726 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:45,679 like a cross. And that made me think. After we heard after we 727 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,920 saw the UFO, then we heard the howls, I'm thinking to myself, 728 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:55,440 could this thing have deposited the creature? And that's and then suddenly we hear 729 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,159 the howls. It's just something that we couldn't see, you know, but 730 00:54:59,199 --> 00:55:02,480 it was. It was, but we just couldn't see it. Sometimes go 731 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,480 ahead, No, I just did. There's so many rabbit holes you can 732 00:55:06,519 --> 00:55:10,280 go down with that thought. Sometimes the ORB or I think Andy, you're 733 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:15,719 aware of different scenarios where they do see the ORB but it does seem to 734 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:22,320 morph into an entity or whatever. Yeah, Paul Devereaux calls those proto entities 735 00:55:22,639 --> 00:55:28,000 where you can't it's hard to make it distinguish between the what appears to be 736 00:55:28,039 --> 00:55:31,360 the craft or whatever and the creature. It's almost like they're one and together. 737 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:37,039 There's even a sort of a mothman like sighting in Can't England in sixty 738 00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:39,440 three That was like that. It was kind of a ball of light that 739 00:55:39,519 --> 00:55:45,639 came down and then they saw this thing manifest So who Yeah, we don't 740 00:55:45,679 --> 00:55:50,199 really know how it all fits together. But speaking of UFOs, I understand 741 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,119 that there's been a flap going on in Pennsylvania for some time. Oh oh 742 00:55:54,119 --> 00:55:58,880 my god. Yeah, we're we're working on a UFO video right now, 743 00:55:59,159 --> 00:56:02,320 UFOs Bucks County. Um. Actually, it's been going on since I guess 744 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:06,760 what last year or the year before that, Dom, We we uh we 745 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,599 interviewed, Yeah, we interviewed Leslie. Remember Yeah, we went out to 746 00:56:10,639 --> 00:56:15,079 their house and it's actually it's coming up to that time of the year. 747 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,760 Uh well it's coming up to that time of the year where it was spotted. 748 00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:22,159 But um, yeah, we we interviewed Leslie down at Peace Valley Park 749 00:56:22,679 --> 00:56:28,400 which is down in Shelfont, and we got her story and she took videos 750 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,920 of these lights over top of the lake that we're just moving up and down 751 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:37,280 and flickering. Uh, just really strange. And it was late at night 752 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:42,480 when it happened, like two to thirty in the morning. Yeah. Really 753 00:56:43,199 --> 00:56:45,880 well that was that was the That was the one video that we got then 754 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:51,320 about I guess of it. A year later, Um, I get a 755 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,440 call from this guy or by a message on my Facebook page from a guy 756 00:56:55,079 --> 00:56:59,400 Mitch Sherman, who lives right down the road from us here in Pergacy. 757 00:57:00,159 --> 00:57:06,079 He lives in Ottsville, saying is spending the video of these crazy lights that 758 00:57:06,159 --> 00:57:09,920 he's seeing on a nightly basis. And so I'm looking at the video I 759 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:15,039 showed Dom and I'm like, holy crap, this is it was something really 760 00:57:15,079 --> 00:57:19,960 really interesting because it was definitely not a star, and it's it's these things 761 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:24,159 that he's saying that it's there's little points, there's points of light coming off 762 00:57:24,159 --> 00:57:28,840 of this thing, and then he could see little objects coming to and from 763 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:34,320 it, Yeah, to this bigger object. Now. Dominic just said it's 764 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,280 coming around the time of the year that he saw it. He seems he's 765 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,000 been seeing this thing every year for like the last two and a half I 766 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:44,599 guess two and a half years, And so we're gonna go up and do 767 00:57:44,639 --> 00:57:49,519 a night investigation to see he thinks it's a seasonal thing for some reason, 768 00:57:49,559 --> 00:57:52,039 that this thing's out there. But I don't know if that's the case, 769 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,039 but that's one of the things that we're gonna we're gonna look into, and 770 00:57:55,079 --> 00:57:59,159 we're gonna go out there and to his property and do a night investigation. 771 00:57:59,199 --> 00:58:02,840 We were already there. We talked to them, and they're great people and 772 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,880 have no problems talking about it, which I love too. I love the 773 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,320 fact that a lot of these witnesses are coming forward well, you know, 774 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,320 with their story because you know, I think it's we're in a time period 775 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,679 right now where people are more open and open to the subject more than ever. 776 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,119 Yeah, I was gonna say. And the crazy thing about it is, 777 00:58:24,159 --> 00:58:28,400 you know he's telling us about it. His wife was telling us about 778 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:32,400 it, and then he mentions his son had that's college age, had friends 779 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:37,679 over and they were they were out on the back patio and they were hanging 780 00:58:37,719 --> 00:58:42,199 out and every one of those kids saw so it. You know, there's 781 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:46,360 multiple people that have seen whatever this thing is. Yeah, so you know, 782 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:51,440 it's hard to discount when that many people have seen it. It hasn't 783 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:57,199 just been going on for over ten years. Well, yeah, it's we've 784 00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:01,039 we've been having activities since two thousand and eight, and it was we had 785 00:59:01,239 --> 00:59:05,559 our huge UFO flap in two thousand and eight. But I don't think it's 786 00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:07,800 ever left. I think it's always still been here, you know. But 787 00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,559 we had a huge flap. It was around the time that remember Texas had 788 00:59:10,639 --> 00:59:16,599 that UFO sighting Stephensville, yep, Stevensville, And there was two thousand and 789 00:59:16,639 --> 00:59:22,679 eight and it started from January all the way through July of two thousand and 790 00:59:22,719 --> 00:59:27,239 eight, and it seemed to be from Stevensville and it came it came east 791 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,239 and then it culminated in July here over Bucks County and I'll tell you you 792 00:59:31,239 --> 00:59:37,280 know there's They even did a special on it called documentary called UFOs over Earth 793 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:42,239 and they said the Bucks County flap. And they talked to a construction worker 794 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,800 over here in Pipersville that saw like an octagonal shaped object like just floating on 795 00:59:47,159 --> 00:59:52,119 like a platform, floating in the in the air during a thunderstorm. He 796 00:59:52,199 --> 00:59:55,880 sees this thing floating and he could see the outline of it during the lightning. 797 00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:02,760 So very very strange man. And and so basically people are seeing what 798 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:08,719 they're seeing now is they're seeing this solid a solid object, multiple lights blow, 799 01:00:09,119 --> 01:00:15,119 it's hovering, silent and uh and it's just it's admitting a lot of 800 01:00:15,239 --> 01:00:19,159 light and it's moving in different areas of the sky. Um. So that's 801 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,519 one of the things that we were looking into. And that's what I would 802 01:00:21,559 --> 01:00:25,159 love to get this on video. UM. I just got a great video 803 01:00:25,639 --> 01:00:31,079 from one of our witnesses that saw a three points of light again in a 804 01:00:31,239 --> 01:00:37,840 triangle formation going over the going over the highway and all three just disappearing, 805 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:44,199 and then another one right down the nurse the hospital, Joe Webber is white. 806 01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:49,519 Yeah, yep, um they so she's a nurse at the Stilestown Hospital. 807 01:00:49,519 --> 01:00:51,480 She's looking out the window and she's like, well, that's odd. 808 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,320 And as she's looking at it, she's seeing these three points of light in 809 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:59,760 the middle of the daytime in a in a triangle formation, and suddenly they 810 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,079 go into a straight line. And she videotaped and I have the video. 811 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:09,280 Yeah, and that's crazy, she's she's videotaping it from the hospital out of 812 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:15,519 window. Yeah. And you know it wasn't it wasn't reflectional lights inside or 813 01:01:15,559 --> 01:01:17,599 anything like that, because it was out there and it was over the trees. 814 01:01:17,679 --> 01:01:21,840 You could definitely see that it was. They were moving and it was 815 01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:27,440 very strange. I understand you guys gonna be doing a night vigil a couple 816 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:32,960 of times in a hot spot area hoping to get Oh yeah, we're definitely 817 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:37,239 doing that. Steve for sure, hazard pay. Steve hazard pay, I 818 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:44,239 know, hazard pay. That's that's how he gets paid. Hey, listen, 819 01:01:44,239 --> 01:01:47,800 he'd get Steve Dominic gets paid weekly. W E A K L E 820 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:57,800 Y. Now one right, And now I know you guys have done all 821 01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,199 kinds of investigating, but I don't think you've ever been to a point pleasant 822 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:05,599 and look into the moths. Man. No, we have been, and 823 01:02:05,679 --> 01:02:08,480 we should and we're going to. Okay, just give me a far. 824 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,239 You're gonna give us a tour of the museum. Oh absolutely absolutely. And 825 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:20,039 since you since you just celebrated your one year anniversary, we can come down 826 01:02:20,039 --> 01:02:23,519 and have a house party. Yeah, let me know ahead of time. 827 01:02:24,159 --> 01:02:30,519 Sometimes, uh times the house is not Let's put it this way, nobody's 828 01:02:30,519 --> 01:02:35,760 ever ever slapped a good housekeeping seal on my eye house. It's a bit 829 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,800 of a challenge sometimes. And you've got to invite invite Andy over from across 830 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:44,320 the pond there and come on over. You come over these days. One 831 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,119 of these days, I'm going to make kids. Well, I'm geting several 832 01:02:46,119 --> 01:02:50,000 times to America, unfortunate, end up one coast to the other, into 833 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,199 New York a few times, and minto the West Coast as well. So 834 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,400 always mister to the middle. So as long as you don't take a boat 835 01:02:55,400 --> 01:03:00,440 called Titanic, you'll be fine. Yeah right, yeah, man. And 836 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:05,480 uh, I also understand Eric, you have an interest in the Injured Cold 837 01:03:05,519 --> 01:03:09,639 phenomena. I do. I really had. That's fascinating. That story's fascinating 838 01:03:09,679 --> 01:03:15,320 me for a while. And one of your favorite people. John keel Um 839 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:19,440 wrote in his uh and I have the book that you had years ago, 840 01:03:20,079 --> 01:03:23,840 Um, where he covered everything that was going on paranormal wise. But what 841 01:03:24,039 --> 01:03:30,719 this one section about injured cold Um. And it's fascinating because it wasn't only 842 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:36,480 the Darrenburger story. There were also children that saw this thing in New Jersey. 843 01:03:37,199 --> 01:03:39,360 Oh really, I didn't know about that. It says they saw this 844 01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,400 guy in New Jersey, the same type thing. Oh, I know what 845 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,159 you mean, the guy with the shiny suit and kind of the big yes, 846 01:03:46,599 --> 01:03:51,679 and he was and the grinning man. And that's and they saw and 847 01:03:51,679 --> 01:03:53,840 they saw, these kids saw him in New Jersey and they were um. 848 01:03:54,079 --> 01:03:58,000 And it was actually, like I want to say, like around Patterson, 849 01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,239 New Jersey, somewhere around there. And it was right near the freeway I 850 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,239 think, and behind a large fence or something like that. Yes, yep, 851 01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:10,320 exactly. And so a very interesting comment, you know, connection there 852 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,400 as well. Well. I think you know, I think it's pretty clear 853 01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,119 that Darrenburger embellished some of his stuff later, although he may have had an 854 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:20,880 initial experience. The thing is that there was another case that happened a few 855 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:27,199 days before before window, Darrenburger made the news. A guy was traveling down 856 01:04:27,239 --> 01:04:30,840 round seventy seven. The same kind of elongated craft kind of forced him over, 857 01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,440 and this guy got out an injured cold type, although he didn't give 858 01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:41,079 a name, with another pointless conversation, and this guy went to Keel and 859 01:04:41,119 --> 01:04:44,480 Mary Hire, and Mary Hire the reporter that Keele worked with, and he 860 01:04:44,519 --> 01:04:46,719 said, I just got to tell somebody. So he tells this crazy story 861 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,280 and then he decides a little bit later, and this is before again before 862 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:53,880 Darrenburger shows up. He says, you know, I don't think we're gonna 863 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,559 we're gonna go through with it publicly. So Keel thought, oh, well, 864 01:04:57,599 --> 01:04:59,920 you know, there's nothing I can do with this. It's a bli 865 01:05:00,239 --> 01:05:01,840 item. I'm just going to forget about it. And he's talking to the 866 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,039 guy and the guy says, you know that scientist Fellas said we should just 867 01:05:05,119 --> 01:05:10,719 forget all about it, and Keel said what scientist fella He says, well, 868 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:12,840 I don't know, but he seemed to know what he was talking about. 869 01:05:13,159 --> 01:05:15,280 And Keel said, well, how did he know about your sighting? 870 01:05:15,639 --> 01:05:19,480 Because the only people he told was Mary Higher in this and Keel and he 871 01:05:19,559 --> 01:05:24,280 said he said, damned if I know then, and then there was you 872 01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,039 know about the other one? There was one came later a woman, a 873 01:05:27,079 --> 01:05:31,639 woman in Gallipolis across the river. She got ahold of John Keel, and 874 01:05:31,719 --> 01:05:35,280 she's very nervous because it looked like she was afraid she wasn't going to be 875 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:40,920 believed. And she was a nurse. She was getting out of the out 876 01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:44,880 of the wherever she was working, I don't know exactly where, and one 877 01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,599 of these craft comes down, and these two guys get out, injured, 878 01:05:47,639 --> 01:05:55,480 cold types, and another pointless conversation. She's she's frozen, she's she's paralyzed, 879 01:05:55,480 --> 01:06:00,599 she can't move and uh, and then they go away. The next 880 01:06:00,679 --> 01:06:03,880 day. Actually, she asked Keel, she said, did that man ever 881 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:08,159 say that he saw him again? And Keel says what he says he did, 882 01:06:08,639 --> 01:06:14,000 And she says she saw these two guys in downtown Gallipolis in street clothes 883 01:06:14,239 --> 01:06:16,480 and one kind of nodded as at her as you want, oh my god, 884 01:06:16,519 --> 01:06:20,039 and had freaked her out. At the same time, on the farm 885 01:06:20,159 --> 01:06:26,440 she's on, she's had cattle mutilations, her son of seeing these large box 886 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:30,079 car like UFOs flying over the land, and she has classic haunting phenomena going 887 01:06:30,119 --> 01:06:33,719 on in her house where the apparitions are just walking through the walls. So 888 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:39,400 yeah, I know, so that's Uh, those other incidents make me think 889 01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:44,440 that there was something to it. But but to echo that guy, I'll 890 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,280 be damned if I know what what the hell was going I wonder who, 891 01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:50,320 But I wonder who the scientist guy though, was it was? I know, 892 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:55,199 probably not probably ah, I mean shades of the Men in Black or 893 01:06:55,199 --> 01:06:59,000 those people. Oh yeah, you know the people that try and and you 894 01:06:59,039 --> 01:07:02,159 know, put app on these kind of sightings. But I don't know. 895 01:07:02,519 --> 01:07:05,880 That's funny, Steve, because it's it's really like that I didn't hear those 896 01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:09,559 two stories. That's really cool. I like that a lot. I just 897 01:07:09,599 --> 01:07:14,239 think that there's gotta be something to it. I know Darren Burger probably embellished 898 01:07:14,239 --> 01:07:15,599 it as he went along, you know, with just things like that. 899 01:07:15,679 --> 01:07:20,400 I'm sure he had the initial sighting and the things that happened to him. 900 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:25,280 But um, you know, as with everything, you know, as stories 901 01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,760 get told, they get retold, and they get embellished, and then you 902 01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,079 know, it gets to be like you know, that's why I like to 903 01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:33,800 go back to first edition books. With like UFO books, because then you 904 01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:39,599 get the real accounts of the first written story you know, of of of 905 01:07:39,639 --> 01:07:43,840 those accounts. That's why I like the Honor the Interrupted Journey, you know 906 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:48,480 from Better I mean, incredible book and just and just hearing the hypnosis sessions. 907 01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:55,760 And it's so cool that you guys at the museum have Wally Darrenburger's audio 908 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,519 recordings of his image. Yeah, I love that. Have you ever heard 909 01:07:59,559 --> 01:08:01,840 them? Oh? Absolutely, yeah, there's so yeah, it's uh, 910 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,280 it's incredible. I mean they just I mean, and you can hear it 911 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:08,360 in his voice too, that he's just a simple guy. You know, 912 01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,800 why is it? What does he got to gain from this? You know? 913 01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,639 So it's really incredible, and you know, even still even the government 914 01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,840 now I don't think they honestly, I don't think they know what's going on 915 01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:24,000 with the UFOs. They don't know, and they just they may know, 916 01:08:24,119 --> 01:08:27,039 they may be covering up what they know, but they don't know what these 917 01:08:27,039 --> 01:08:30,960 things are. I mean, you know, it's the things that the pilots 918 01:08:31,239 --> 01:08:35,319 just shot down. I think they yes, they were balloons, but the 919 01:08:35,399 --> 01:08:39,800 other things that these navy pilots are seeing going thirteen thousand miles an hour. 920 01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:45,239 They're not balloons. Well they they I'm sure they there's a lot they don't 921 01:08:45,279 --> 01:08:48,239 know. They don't want to admit, they don't know. They don't want 922 01:08:48,279 --> 01:08:55,000 to admit that we're completely powerless over whatever this is exactly. You know. 923 01:08:55,079 --> 01:08:58,119 That's that's the uh, that's the scary part of the whole thing. But 924 01:08:58,199 --> 01:09:00,640 and getting the answers there. So that's the whole fascinating part of what we 925 01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:05,880 do as researchers is we're we're you always leave with more questions than answers. 926 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:10,279 There's never any kind of like definitive answer, like what it is? You 927 01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:13,760 know, it's like air, It's like how does it work? I don't 928 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,279 know, but we need it for you know, for life. It's that 929 01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:18,520 kind of idea, you know. It's like it's it's just a never ending, 930 01:09:19,199 --> 01:09:25,359 uh, I don't know, never ending questions, never ending source of 931 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:29,000 material. Because at the end of the day, people are seeing something. 932 01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:34,039 But even though we're sort of beating our head against the wall and we we 933 01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:40,279 get some answers and then there's more questions. Yet we are all gluttons for 934 01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:45,279 punishment and we keep going yeah, or you like or you're like fox Molder 935 01:09:45,319 --> 01:09:47,239 on the X Files, and you you try to get to that ending part 936 01:09:47,279 --> 01:09:50,560 of that story and then all of a sudden there's the there's the cigarette smoking 937 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:55,359 man right there, you know, and it's like always blocking your way. 938 01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:59,479 So that's another thing too, or diverting somewhere. At least you had a 939 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:05,640 script, yeah, exactly. So what besides going out to the dead of 940 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:12,159 night looking for the Mothership and in September looking for the dog Man again, 941 01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,560 what what other kind of investigations do you guys have coming up? Oh? 942 01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,279 Man, well, so many. Yeah, we've got a lot. On 943 01:10:18,359 --> 01:10:24,359 Monday, we're going to be doing a follow up investigation at a haunted restaurant 944 01:10:24,399 --> 01:10:28,760 called mccool's Red Lion Inn in Quakertown, Pennsylvania, which is incredible place. 945 01:10:29,039 --> 01:10:31,239 Uh, dom and I were there what five years ago? Don, Yeah, 946 01:10:31,279 --> 01:10:34,520 about five years ago. It's been that long. It's been that long. 947 01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:39,920 Yeah, And we saw some really crazy stuff that night. So we're 948 01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,960 going to do that follow up on Monday. Dominic and I are speaking at 949 01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:49,319 a cryptic festival where Ken Gerhart's going to be at. And Esteban Sarmiento, 950 01:10:50,079 --> 01:10:54,640 uh, the Bigfoot, he's a big Foot authority guy, so some people 951 01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,560 there from the Travel Channel, So Dominic and I are are going to be 952 01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,319 in good company that way, that you know. And that's in pre Damn 953 01:11:00,319 --> 01:11:04,560 Boy at Kearney Cottage, and that's the first time we're going to be speaking 954 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:08,880 there about the Beast of Bray Road and about the Pine Baron's Big Foot. 955 01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:13,600 And then we've got some other investigations. I mean, we've got another investigation 956 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,520 coming up in Hershey, Pennsylvania at a place called the Englewood, which is 957 01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:21,479 going to be really, really fun. And then we've got some more follow 958 01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:27,560 ups that we're doing a lot of releases soon of videos that we've with that 959 01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,760 investigation that we did in January and February. On June second, we're doing 960 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:36,920 a screening release of Hallowed Browns at the Homestead part too, so that's gonna 961 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:41,279 be a lot of fun. That's a place called New Spirit Old Soul and 962 01:11:41,359 --> 01:11:45,600 it's in Boyertown, Pennsylvania. So a lot of stuff and stuff coming in 963 01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:49,159 all the time. We've got people calling us all the time for videos to 964 01:11:49,199 --> 01:11:53,960 do videos, and it's phenomenal. Well happen to have you guys back on 965 01:11:54,039 --> 01:11:56,760 and maybe we can focus more on the ghost side of it. Yeah, 966 01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:00,920 absolutely, Yeah, then we don't need Eric exactly. I'll stay home. 967 01:12:02,319 --> 01:12:06,800 No, we want you to give another dramatic entrance. Again, I'll come 968 01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:11,920 an hour late. I feel like a real radio guy when I get people 969 01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:15,079 to come in. You know, a different game. And latest demig is 970 01:12:15,159 --> 01:12:23,119 Eric Mintel. Finally nothing of its silence. Okay, and again, guys, 971 01:12:23,119 --> 01:12:27,479 tell us where everybody can find out find your videos and more about you. 972 01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:32,760 Guys. You can find us on Facebook at Eric Mintel investigates YouTube. 973 01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:39,640 Eric Mentel investigates, Um, what else dom Instagram? Yep, Eric Mantel 974 01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:45,319 investigates Dominic fir TV. To go look at Dominic's hotel on Instagram. There 975 01:12:45,319 --> 01:12:47,479 you go, careful, there's a there's a premium. There's a premium to 976 01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:54,159 go on there. Um, and uh, then let's see what else? 977 01:12:54,159 --> 01:12:59,720 And then yeah TV television, Yeah, Princetel. It's so if anyone has 978 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:06,920 any like smart television, they could type in Central New Jersey Network and once 979 01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:11,119 they add that to their channel list, it's free. Um, you could 980 01:13:11,159 --> 01:13:16,479 watch our program every Saturday night at eleven o'clock and it's uh, it's from 981 01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,920 eleven to eleven thirty. They play us every Saturday night, and then we 982 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:26,920 just got picked up in the Philadelphia area at Temple University Television every Saturday at 983 01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:30,720 one o'clock in the afternoon and then nine o'clock at night. So every Saturday 984 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,520 at one and nine we're on Temple University Television. So that's gonna be a 985 01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:38,359 good market to be in as well. So you guys aren't busy at all, 986 01:13:39,159 --> 01:13:44,560 not at all, but not at all. Well, guys, thanks 987 01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,560 for being here. Absolutely, Sneaker has always what a pleasure man, always 988 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,359 a pleasure to be on your show. And Andy, I told you these 989 01:13:50,399 --> 01:13:55,359 guys were good. Yeah, so sat here sort of questions to us and 990 01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:59,039 once the game and that a challenge because you guys are just so interesting to 991 01:13:59,119 --> 01:14:01,600 listen to the question so you have to come back and actually I can get 992 01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,760 in ask a few my questions next time. Definitely, Steve, you gotta 993 01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:12,640 give Andy a chance, man god Lock and everything. Well, I listen. 994 01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,800 I try not to piss off Andy because he produces the show. Always 995 01:14:16,079 --> 01:14:20,680 nobody's gonna hear this if all sorts of ways, don't worry. There you 996 01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:27,560 go. It was so interesting to you guys talking so much information. I 997 01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,640 just didn't want to interrupt. I always say listen. I always say Steve 998 01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:38,479 has a great face for radio and don't forget a voice for print. There 999 01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:44,159 you go. I love it. Oh my god. Okay, I've better 1000 01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,359 any any further thoughts on our comments. No, that should do it. 1001 01:14:47,399 --> 01:14:49,920 Thank you so much, Steve. Okay, hold on, we're gonna do 1002 01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:51,920 the clothes out here. You didn't just stick around for a little bit. 1003 01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,840 The High Strangers Factor was created by Steve Ward and Andy Mercer and is captivated 1004 01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:02,199 on the Paranormal UK Radio network. I want to thank our fearless leaders here 1005 01:15:02,239 --> 01:15:06,800 at the network, Irene Ellen, block Mark Johnson and Andy Mercer. Also 1006 01:15:08,359 --> 01:15:13,680 Andy gets acknowledged as co host and producer of the show. I can also 1007 01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:17,199 be heard weekly as a correspondent. I'm mcmiloney's Military X Files on this same 1008 01:15:17,239 --> 01:15:23,279 network and many other platforms. And I am Steve Ward, your humble host 1009 01:15:23,319 --> 01:15:28,680 here on The High Strangers Factor. A displaced Michigander deep in the Ohio Valley, 1010 01:15:29,119 --> 01:15:32,479 mere inches from downtown Point pleasant layer of the Mothman, living on the 1011 01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:36,720 same road that the wing rooted chased cards half a century ago. Thank you 1012 01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:40,840 all for listening, Andy, and I will see you all again in a 1013 01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:42,079 fortnight take care