Welcome to this edition of The High Strangers Factor, copyrighted on the Paranormal UK
Radio Network. I am Steve Word and I am here with Andy Mercer tonight
and we'll we'll be talking to I believe two investigators. We definitely have one
right now that cover it all, ghosts, UFOs and even the Beast of
bray Road. Andy, welcome back. Yes, it's given me back again.
It's been a couple of shows. I've missed them. As you know,
we're trying to process, are sorting out, setting out house. It's
going rather well. We are hopefully moving in a couple of weeks and I'm
just beginning the process of packing the house up and it is rather daunting prospect
of rather large book collection which I've sought out. I spent the last two
days beginning to pack things from my office, just wrapping things up and bubble
wrap and boxing them up, and it doesn't have any different twenty boxes of
stuff packed up and the room looks pretty much the same. She's going to
be a long job the house. The rest of us have been done by
the removal company, and that's why you usual kitchen stuff. I don't want
them touching my book collection, so I said, I do that, but
things got just under two weeks to go, touch would because the fun and
contracts I mean sort of out. Yeah, but we're assured that that's just
a matter of time. So it's giving me rather busy, which is good
to be. Last weekend, I miss the couldn't do the show because he
did a little while ago because he went down to look at the house again
for the last time. So it's looking very exciting. Well, yesterday was
my one year anniversary here in Point Pleasant. Ye, that's harm but yeah,
I know it, and I think of all the goals I had to
be things to be accomplished in one year, it hasn't happened yet, so
at least I got some of them done. But yeah, and you know,
I were just talking off air about the frantic nature of selling the one
house, getting the other house set up and moving and getting out before the
new tenants have to come in and everything has to kind of fall in place,
and for me it was just like a few days apart to have all
that settle in. So good good to hear that things are going. And
I saw pictures of your house and it looks like a really nice area,
so nice, quiet countryside is literally a village, a properly English village,
just sort of the town in Somerset. So we are very looking, very
much looking forward to moviegin It's it's a chain, should be very easy.
If I mentioned before, the guy that's buying our place is going to be
renovating, doing it up, so no one's moving agin straight away. It
will be empty for a while while they're doing that. The house we bought
is what we call probates with the person who owned the house has passed away.
We're buying off their kids, so there's no one in there, so
there's no chain, no movie. It should be easy, but it's been
three months already, so still sort of waiting for it to finally happen.
So it's crazy how long these thing can actually take. Even the most simple
no chains still take ages. Well, you know, every time I hear
about a quiet English village, all I can think of is the TV show
Midsummer Murderer, not that far away from us. I think they just the
latest DVD set I got was they're celebrating their twenty five years and I think
they figured out they killed about four hundred people in these quiet little villages there?
Who was lovecrafting about? It? Isn't easy miss quite a little country
village? Will the strange deaths occurring all the time and always and always over
the top desk, somebody comes, trips and falls right, absolutely, Well,
well let's get started with our guest here. Yes, Dominics. They
tell has been a medium since he was three years old. He can see
full body apparitions and speak to spirit. He enjoys being able to help the
living understand what the signs are from spirit. Sometimes spirit needs to help you
move through a difficult time, or they have a message that needs passing along.
Since his time with Eric Mentell Investigates, he has been hunting beasts,
cryptids and aliens. This is something a bit out of his wheelhouse, but
he finds he's enjoying it very much. Dominic, welcome back to the High
Strangers Factor. Thanks for having me on, and we hope that Eric can
join us soon, so it'll be just like a real radio show where people
you know join in on the latter last minute. Yeah, I don't know
where he's at. He should have been here, but that's all right.
We could just pick on him the whole time, Okay, well, yeah,
yeah, he'll have to actually listen to it in order to you know,
feel bad. And there you go. I'll make sure I rub it
in. I'm gonna I'm going to keep the Facebook thing up here, and
Casey says, I'm here. Okay, So I guess what I wanted to
start with. You guys were on before and we talked a lot about your
investigations into the dog Man in Elkhorn, Wisconsin and your time spent on Lee
Hample's farm and that I mean I've been there myself. I've been able to
see Lee's presentations. For those that don't know. Lee Hample has a farm
just I guess, inches away from Bray Road. He's had all kinds of
bizarre phenomena there. He's taken photographs of what dominic over the last ten years,
thousands of them. Of thousands, Yeah, easily with all these trap
cameras that that that that that fire off and you can help me out here.
You see things like classic flying saucers zipping around trees, drones, all
kinds of bizarre stuff in the sky that by the timers. It doesn't stay
there very long, it's just there and it's gone correct. Yeah, he's
he's got Besides you know the drones, he's got these orbs that fly in
the sky and they kind of drift to the ground and then they disappear,
and there's multiple of them in the sky. Besides streams of life that come
down from the sky and they stop before they hit the ground, and beams
of light need to keep traveling. They don't stop. And these are cylindrical
and they're five foot long stream of light and then it just disappears. You
can be he has videos of that and pictures of that as well. Wow.
I know he's going to have another presentation coming up that I wish I
could go to. But when you're there, what what he does is you're
there for two hours, and of course you're only seeing a fraction of these
photographs, but there they'll just blow you away. He has he has,
you know he I remember him saying that when he moved in there. Some
of the neighbors said, you know, there's a werewolf that lives in those
trees back there. And and here's here's Lee, who was a mathematician at
a chemist right, taught mathematics for decades in Yep. And uh, you
know, a man of science and there's a werewolf, and you know he's
talking to incredible people that have seen this thing. And then he has seen
it at least twice. I think, yes, Yeah, he's seen it
a couple times when he was out in his field on his tractor and he
stopped and he's got pictures of it kind of lumbering across the open fields.
Um, he's caught it worth standing up. It drops down all fours and
then walks on its knuckles. So yeah, you know he calls it a
knuckle walker, a square front, like the front feet would be square from
it walking on its knuckles. And the pictures he has of those prints that
it's left behind are huge. Wow. And there's five toad right correct,
in which it shouldn't exist with a pad and a heel. And the ones
that are are really remarkable are the if you can describe the ones that are
are in the snow, it's like they begin nowhere and nowhere, but they
do something really bizarre. Yeah, he has when it snows out in an
elkhorn, I mean it gets deep, but he's got trails of footprints that
go up and they go straight away from you and then they make an immediate
right. And usually if it's four legged, you'll see four sets of prints
when it turns because of keeping it stability. These are just two feet and
it just turns like a normal person would, and the mount, the size
of it is smaller than a human foot. But then he also has ones
that start going straight ahead, and then it morphs into two and it wise
and they go in different directions, and they'll go for about twenty feet and
then just stop and there's no more print and there's nothing else there, So
where did it go. It's bizarre. It's almost like he would have had
to have his buddy on his shoulders and then it set them down gently so
that they would walk apart to split, but then they disappear anyway, and
it's it's And then now he's gotten hair samples, and I think I have
this right. There's no medula. I mean, it's almost like the hair
is clear. It's translucent. So normal people and normal animals they'll have basically
the center of it is where it grows from, and it'll have something there
where. This is like a hollow. It's just hollow tube of hair and
you can shine a light. He's got it under a microscope and has pictures
of it under a microscope and it's just there's no modula. It's absent.
So it's pretty interesting how that happened. So I wonder if you've given any
thought to this. We have these these beasts, I mean, they eat
road kill, they eat bait. Yeah, there's something, there's something that
it's very difficult to photograph them. The cameras will sometimes fail when they go
and grab the bait. Suggests there's something, some kind of intelligence or something
preventing that. But then in the backdrop, you've got all these bizarre things
in the sky, like there's some kind of technology there almost like it's say
a waste station or a Grand central station where the air is thin, so
to speak, and these whatever they are, are going back and forth.
You have any any idea of how how the two might be related, And
that's something we've been investigating and looking at and we're trying to figure that out.
I mean, you know you're talking about the cameras. These are triggered
and they take a picture every so many seconds when they're triggered. And when
we were out there and we were doing our first investigation when we met you,
we were out there and we went out to the field and it took
pictures of us setting up the bait area, and it took pictures of us
walking around investigating. When we went back later that night for the night investigation
to see if we could see anything, the camera shut off at like five
o'clock and didn't start taking pictures again till seven or seven thirty in the morning.
And we were out there at night in front of the camera, walking
around and it never took a picture of us and never saw us. And
I think there was an incident when during the day when and what a team
which was taking drone shots and didn't you guys disappear off the screen or something
like that. Yeah, we had our cameraman and Scott and we were out
there and he was just flying over the field and flying over the corn fields
next to it to see if we could see anything in the corn fields.
And when we were driving to the back, he was following us. We
got out of the truck and we started walking around and started investigating the cornfield
just at the edge. We didn't go into the cornfield, and he was
flying over us. Then all of a sudden, he's like, where did
you guys go. We hear him shouting, where did you guys go?
And he lifted up. He uses VR glasses so he doesn't get any interruptions,
and he had to lift them up, and he looked and he saw
us, and we were still in the same spot. Then he looks up
and he couldn't find his drone. His drone disappeared. He put his glasses
back on to try to get some bearing where he was, and then all
of a sudden we were back and a drone was back. But the whole
time, I mean, we could hear the drone in the air, but
didn't know where it went. It sounds it sounds eererly like the uh the
technical glitches that occurs on the Skinwalker Ranch. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
And there's a lot of similarities between that and Lee's field. Um, tell
us go through that, uh that that night investigation. But people can see
by the way, what's it up? What where do they go to find
your YouTube videos? It's Eric Mentell investigates on YouTube and it's the Beast of
Bray Road And this is the first investigation you guys did, and it is
creepy as hell. But tell kind of go through that and you were out
there with Eric and Ellen Ellen Collins right correct. Yeah. Ellen Collins is
she's the one that she's our Wisconsin branch of Eric Mentell Investigates, and she's
the one that actually funded this instigation and did a great job. I mean,
she was out there with us in the thick and her son, Scott
was our drone operator, and we were out there. When we first got
out there, you know, we landed the airport, we got to meet
them. We drove down to Lee's farm to go see what was going on,
to meet Lee and his brother Fred, and you know, we meet
them, We talked to them, we get their story, and we wanted
to go out to the field. So that's when we went out to the
field with Scott and drove down towards the back corner, and that's when Scott
lost us on the drone. So right away things were starting to happen.
When we got back to where the bait area is where Lee has his experiments
set up to try to capture the beast to a picture of it, he
was telling us about this strange mist that came up from the ground and then
he showed us pictures. When we got back to his barn and the mist
he had road killed deer, laid them in the back in a certain area
and laid it down in the tall grass and left. Came back the next
day. Hello, dear, was moving now I'm still here. Okay,
Yeah, I don't know whether cut out, but yes, I remember saying
those pictures where you, uh, he's got the whatever the night vision.
H you see the carcass there, the miss shows up and then you know
sometimes passes you know from the from the time staff, and then it's gone,
yep, and there's no sign of it. No no drag marks,
no footprints. Correct, Yeah, there was nothing. And I think he's
repeated that experiment about a dozen times. He has. And the strangest thing
about it is is that you know, he had sixteen or seventeen road killed
deer back there at one point, and all of them had disappeared. One
of them was surgically cut and the basically the leg and part of the shoulder
were just gone and it was surgically cut straight down without any There was no
jagged edges or anything like that. So it was it was removed. You
know, it wasn't bitten off or chewed off. It was just removed so
and he has pictures of stuff like that all the time. Yeah. I
think he even tried to put a tracker on one of the carcases, didn't
he that, Yeah, he was talking about doing that. I believe he
did do it, and the tracker was gone and they couldn't find the tracker.
So there's there's so many electronic disturbances in that back part of the field,
and it's where the wetlands are and it kind of cuts across the property.
But there's just so many electronic disturbances. Your cell phone won't work,
flashlights go on and off. You try to use a radio and it cuts
out all the time. So, I mean, there's a bunch of different
things. We had got to set up a go pro when we were out
there the second time. We had the bait area and we set up some
mannequin with meat, meat and stuff hanging on them, and we set up
a GoPro so we could get pictures. And Scott was having problems getting the
gopro's working. He switched i think two three cameras before he was able to
get it to connect to to be able to record. And when he went
back and checked the footage. It was all corrupted and even cars that are
parked out there by his barn the lights all flash, yeah, headlights all
flash on, it off without the carding turned on. It's it is bizarre.
It is very bizarre crazy. And before you come on and talk about
that night, h like you said, the Lee's gotten pictures of there's a
photograph of him in daylight surrounded by a mist but he didn't see the mist
yep at that particular time. And also he's had a couple instances where he's
had miss time. He saw one of these things once and he didn't realize
till later. He just you know, he just realized it was it turned
out to be midnight when he thought it was going to be about ten or
eleven. And anyway, so a couple of times, I mean, everything
has happened there missing time. There's more than one type of cryptod out there.
I believe that Lee says he's seen or or at least different footprints.
Yes, yeah, he's He's ran into a bunch of different objects m portals
on his property orbs that he's seen that danced across his dash in his truck
with the naked eye couldn't see it, but through a camera he could see
the ORB dancing. And he had one of his friends that was standing outside
the truck and he was looking through the camera and through some flear lenses and
he said to his friend, Hey, there's an ORB right next to you.
When the guy says where all of a sudden it passed through the guy
and he's like, just passed through you And he said, oh, I
got a chill, and then it disappeared. But his friend never saw it
but felt it. So Yeah, and it's very interesting some of the stuff
that he's that he has. And also Andy, he's got photographs of what
looks like a beam of light shooting down and it refracts, it bends a
little bit, which should be impossible. Yeah, are you strange? So
with with all that, you know, all that going on, with all
that baggage, you guys go you go out there in trepid investigators. It's
dark. Uh just the corner is high and uh and and you and Dominic
you you you talk you We'll have you talk about what you were what you
were feeling being the uh the the the guy that tunes into the cosmic vibrations.
How how you were picking up some stuff. But anyway, tell us
what's how this unfolded that night. Well, we went out and you know,
we were there in the morning and we set up what we wanted to
stet up, and we were going to go back later that night. So
when we went back later on at night, we sat in Lee's barn.
Lee gave us a talk, showed us some pictures that he had at that
time, told us some of the stories, and we started our night investigation.
It was raining that day and we weren't sure if we're going to be
able to do anything in the field with the rain. We walked out the
back of the barn and the rain stopped, so we took a look to
the right. We took a look to the left and there was lightning and
flashing all going on, you know, a couple miles away, and we
go drive back down to the back corner and when we get off, we
we took some quads and we took a truck. When we got off the
quads and got out of the truck, I looked up and the sky was
crystal clear just over top of his field. So it was still cloudy,
and the lightning was still going on to the left. It was still cloudy
lightning going on to the right, but over his field it was crystal clear.
That's crazy, and that's what really it drew my attention because I saw
them the stars, and I went wow. And I'm looking up at the
stars and all of a sudden I see this white orb white light in the
sky. And I said to Eric, I said, Eric, what the
hell is that? And he looks up and he goes, oh, my
god. Ellen looked up, Scott took pointed the camera up to the sky
and there was this beam of light and all of a sudden, it just
started moving and it moved quicker than a plane. It was heading directly towards
a plane. It made a forty five degree angle and disappeared. Wow.
And it was so quick when it happened, and we just sat there and
we were just in awe. It just all of a sudden. We were
out there not even five minutes and there was there was a UFL so that
started off the night. It's still over top of the whole field was crystal
clear, beautiful sky. So we kept looking up and we started walking around
and within ten to fifteen minutes we were there. We hit a trifecta.
We saw the UFO. The second thing we heard was the howl that guttural
house red and you know, everybody's like, oh, it sounds like a
train whistle. No, it doesn't sound like a train whistle. It didn't
sound like a wolf. It didn't sound like a coyote. This was something
entirely different. And the first time we heard it it was probably about fifteen
hundred yards away. The second one we heard was probably about three to five
hundred yards away, and it was louder. The third one we heard was
about one hundred to one hundred and fifty yards way, and it was really
really loud. And we were wearing small Lavalier mics on our lapels, so
they're they're more directional to cut out the noise from around, so if there's
background noise, it only picks up the person when they're talking. And you
could hear on the video you could hear this thing. How it was absolutely
amazing. Scared that but Jesus out of us. And you know, I
was trying to tune in, trying to do something with what my gift,
and the only thing I kept saying to Eric is we need to go we're
not safe, and Eric was, you know, more important about our health
and didn't leave me there, which I was thankful for because everybody knows Eric
would do that. Son of all the proceeds correct. But the thing is,
people can hear these howls on that tape, and I'm no expert on
animals sounds, but that was creepy as hell. It sounded like there was
at least one on one side of you and one on the other, like
you were in betwitter. And then didn't you see I shine about six feet
off the ground, And that was that was the thing when we heard we
heard the first howl. Then we heard the second hal. I was saying
this God, and I was telling Ellen and Eric. I said, shine
your lights over there where we heard the hal coming from. I said,
we'll see something. And we're in a We're in a hay field. So
the hay was already cut down, but on either side three sides of us
were cornfields that were still up. And we started shining the lights and we
didn't see it at first until afterwards when Eric was reviewing it, we got
eyeshine. So that was that was the second thing. So we heard we
had the UFO, and then we had the house. The third thing,
we started walking up a little bit more towards the barn and we were just
kind of walking up to see if we could get a different angle, and
all of a sudden, Eric goes, oh, my god, and I
went what And he's like, there's a mist. And Scott shined the camera
down to the ground and there was a mist coming up from the ground.
And that was all within fifteen minutes. And I kept saying, Eric,
they're behind us. I can hear rustling of the corn. I'm like,
we're not safe. We need to go. And He's like, I agree,
let's get out of here. We'll beat feet and run. So everybody
got in the vehicles and we went back up to Lee's barn. And you
told me when I talked to you the first time that you said you felt
like you were in a shark cage underwater holding the shark bait. Exactly.
Yeah. I felt like I was the shart So yeah, I mean it
was crazy. I said that to Eric. I said, you know,
I felt safer hunting Bigfoot and the pine barrens than I did on Lee's feel.
The uneasiness, feeling and just everything that happened, and hearing the rustling
of noise. There was more than one beast out there, absolutely with the
three different howls, and you could distinctly hear three different howls. It wasn't
the same one moving closer. It was just three different ones. And we
were close to the corn and I said to Eric, I was afraid when
we were riding the quads back, something would have just reached out of the
corner and grabbed us. So we kind of moved towards the middle of the
field a little bit more to keep safe. But yeah, it was.
It was absolutely wild. So we had bait set up down near the area
where we were at, so we I you know, looking back at a
hindsight, we were too close to where that bait was, so we became
the beat. So and you know, nobody's ever been attacked by the beast.
People have seen it and it runs away. I don't know what it
would do with meat and bone that are there with us next to it,
whether we would have gotten taken or not. Do you think that if you're
hearing three of them, they were communicating with each other and that that is
a good possibility there could have been one scout and the other ones that was
calling them closer. Who knows. It could have been a family at that
point too. And it's very underving. Yeah, so you know, And
that was the thing. Like when we went back the second time, we
were able to go into the corn was down. We went back the second
time, so we were able to walk into the fields and go over towards
the woods that were there, and Ellen and I actually went into the woods
and we were following a trail and I can only assume it was a deer
trail, but we came to a clearing inside the woods and in that clearing
was a small pond. So there was a water source right there on just
right next to Lee's property as well as tall or grass and you could see
where that was. Something was bed down. Again. It could have been
a deer or it could have been the beast. I don't know. But
we had an interview with a guy. He didn't want to be on camera.
We were able to get him on tape and he is a worker that
works for utility and him and his partner. There's quarry real close to Lee's
property as well, right at the end of Bray Road, and he was
saying that him and his partner went out to the quarry and when they got
out of the truck, they heard this howl and he said it was the
scariest thing ever. It was during the day and he said it was the
scariest thing ever. He said, But you felt fear, he said,
as soon as you heard that howl. So he had an experience. That
was right there at the end of Bray Road near Lee's property. Because Lee's
property is about two tenths away from Bray Road. The back end of his
property there's an adjoining field and then it's Bray Road, so his properties real
close and they cut straight through his property all the time. And being that
he's feeding them trying to do experiments, I'm sure that now it's a highway,
so they're constantly coming by there. Grief. Yeah, he's just he's
just calling them in. I guess he doesn't have enough photographs. I guess
it's would be great if you know. Some of them have been posted on
Coast to Coast am Andy, But it's it's too bad you can't attend one
of these things so you can see, uh see some of the photographs.
What uh, let me let me quick let me do our station identification.
You are listening to the High Strangious Fact You're copyrighted on the Paranormal UK Radio
network. Andy and I are talking to Dominic Stell about his investigations into the
Unexplained. Um. I still it's still such a problem to try and understand.
It's almost like these beasts are there to scare people away so that there
people aren't observing the other stuff going on, you know, and I want
I went way out on a limb one time and thought, well, what
if these things are you know, we talk about tulpas and thought forms and
so forth. What if these things are constructs? And that's why they don't
have a medula, That's why they appear somewhere and then disappear. That's why
they split in two, because they're construct by some higher intelligence to try and
keep people away. It's a crazy theory, and it may be faulty because
when these things show up, people flock there to try to see them,
so perhaps it's not working very well. But I still, I just I
can't get over the the what appears to be this super advanced technology that's so
elusive, and then you have these we think of his brainless beasts at the
same time, and you know, it's strange. I mean, he has
he has Lee has pictures of orbs in the sky and the orbs almost look
like it almost looks like a cat's eye sideways, but you could almost distinctly
see a figure in the middle of it, and it's not an eyeball.
And he there's multiple there's like five or six of them that were floating in
the sky and the one looked like it almost looked like Jesus with its arms
out as it was coming down. Just absolutely bizarre some of the stuff he
has. He has a photo of a UFO football and shape silver that is
flying around a tree and he's got he's got pictures of it and it's maybe
twenty feet off the ground and he's real close to it. It's not very
it's not huge, but it's about the size of a car in the sky
with no wheel, and it's not it's not a doctored photo. And you
know, it's it's crazy to look at this and see it shape and you
can actually make out ridges in the body of the of the saucer, so
it's really interesting. And didn't it zip around the tree really fast? I
mean if you look at the time, snap, it was a later of
seconds. Yes, yeah, And that's the thing. It just it moves
and you know, and again he has these strange lights down in the field.
He has pictures of lights moving through the field behind the trees and oh
yeah, really really quick, excuse me, really really quick going by,
and he has them on film and you can see it. And it's not
a car, it's not a truck, it's not a tractor running through there.
It's not sped up, and you can just see these things zipping by,
one after another. Dominic. You guys are planning another excursion, right,
but I think I heard that you've got a much bigger area you can
explore now. Yeah, we actually got permission from the other landowners attached with
Lee's property that we're going to be able to go out and investigate. So
we have I think it's over one hundred and forty three acres we can now
explore, so, which is awesome, and we're supposed to be we're scheduled
to go back out September October again of this year. Well, what you
want to do is, you know, watch a lot of scary movies that
have stupid people in them to get eaten and just and don't do what they
do. I'll stick together, don't don't have Eric say, hey, Dominant,
go over there and check that out by those trees. You know.
Now we're not going to separate. I said, that's not happening, and
I'm going to make sure my my Waukee talkie has batteries in it. Well,
now I understand that. Oh wait a minute, I got a message
from Eric here. Okay, Wow, this is just like real radio.
Let me try and to contact him. Hey, wait a minute, time
what you got me into? Mintel? Hey, I'm sorry, but listen,
I was on an investigation and I don't know what happened. Tom.
I was in a portal and I just I just got out of it.
I knew he was going to come up with some lame excuse, you know,
of course, Steve, my apologies, man, I'm so sorry for
being late here. Do not worry. We had we talked to Dominick.
He gave us a great recap of Bray Road, and we talked about some
stuff we hadn't talked about before. And so shall we uh so we bring
you in? Do you want you want me to do your intro. If
you yeah, if you wanted to do that, I'm going to put you
on the speaker here and here you go. Okay, Eric, since since
I did, since I did the whole Beast of Bray Road, you can
do all the ghost stuff and normal. All right, that sounds good.
We're gonna do a UFOs over Pennsylvania too. I'll do the real I'll do
the real stuff, right and here you go. By the way, Eric,
the check is going to be split in Dominic's favor this time. He
was telling me about twenty five seventy five split you stick him with all the
time. Oh yeah, definitely, Oh absolutely, you know. And so
Steve, I'm gonna talk about all the mechanical estimating tonight. Oh yeah,
okay, okay, this will be a good one. I can't wait.
Oh yeah, Steve wanted this. I did, didn't I. Yeah,
we're having fun now, okay, Oh yeah, Andy, I'm gonna say,
okay, Eric h Mentel has just joined us, and I'll do his.
Uh. His intro is so long it's gonna take up about three quarters
of the rest of the show. Willstell have a little time, that'll be
all right? Okay, guys are you ready, I'm ready, Okay,
just like real radio. Eric Montell has just joined us, and we won't
go through all the lame excuses he gave for being late. But let me
let me go and go through with his stellar introduction. I think he probably
wrote it himself. For more than thirty years, Eric Montell has been an
acclaimed jazz musician with his group the Eric Mentel Quartet. But later at night
Eric Montel investigates the paranormal. Eric was invited to perform twice at the White
House for President Clinton in nineteen ninety eight and for President Obama in twenty eleven.
He was also invited to perform at the Kennedy Center over ten times from
nineteen ninety nine to two thousand and five, and also had a special concert
at the United Nations in twenty ten. He has toured and performed around the
country in concert halls, high schools, libraries, elementary schools, churches,
jazz clubs, and many Moore of us. A consummate professional in front of
the camera, Eric has been on television performing his music, as well as
being interviewed. Eric and spirit medium Dominics I tell nice that he mentioned Dominic
were recently featured on the cover of American Paranormal Magazine January February twenty twenty three.
Eric has also had stories written up on his paranormal activities by numerous newspapers
and has been featured on many radio stations and podcasts across the country and around
the world. Interested in the paranormal from a very young age, Eric has
led Eric Mantel investigates since twenty sixteen, seeking out strange stories to tell,
whether it's ghosts, UFOs, bigfoot, or dogman sightings. Fans of his
music have eagerly followed him into the paranormal world. On many an investigation,
Eric and his team have captured groundbreaking video footage and captured strange paranormal activity the
likes of which never have been seen. Eric Mantel, Welcome back to the
High Strangers Factor. Thank you, Thank you, Steve. And you know
the strangest thing of all was meeting you for the first time on Bray Road.
That's right along how we met. By the way, Andy Mercer is
here. Uh my co host from the UK. Andy, how you doing
man? Sorry for my tardiness, nothing problem until thank you, Thank you,
and uh I was with a friend Brandy who is an occasional guest co
host here, and she told me she wanted to be on tonight. But
this kid works all the time. Her work is her work ethic is disgusting
as me as a man, as a man of a retired man of leisure.
It makes my head spending see how much. But anyway, she said
that she listens to your guys uh YouTube videos often. So cool. Anyway,
she said to say, Hi, Well, she doesn't listen to the
show dum um sony Like, yeah, she listens eagerly with every appisode.
I'm just kidding. Oh my god, Steve, you know it's Steve has
got a great you always have such great energy, Steve, and that's what
we love about you too, and great sense of humor. You know,
we wouldn't be and if we're busting on you, that means that we love
you. Well. I told before you came out, I told Dominic that
I got Andy here in case you guys start picking up. There you go
and you and he's got your he's got your back. But I'll tell you,
yeah, it's been I know Dominic recapped Bray Road with you and it
was just amazing, you know. And of course I'm sure he told you
we're going back in September. Um, yes, but we feel that means
oh yeah, definitely. Well, you know it's it's cats out of the
bag. I mean, we just didn't. We just did an investigation,
uh the other night at a at a haunted library, which is really cool.
We're getting a lot of different UM investigations now in a lot of really
unique locations. You know. Now it's a library. Who would have thought
a haunted library and libraries out in Reading, Pennsylvania and um, and it
comes come to find out there is a series of cave systems behind under the
library and actually under the entire area that we were in so much so the
one one year, the gentleman that was with us, Charles Adams, UM
told us that the parking lot of the local I guess it was the Walmart
or some kind of shoppings at the right time, Yeahart, it completely caved
in. So there's some really yeah, there's some really weird stuff going on
out there. UM. And just in our investigations, I mean, i'll
tell you, you know, within fifteen minutes, stuff happens. And I
totally attributed it to Dominic because he's like He's like a magnet with these things.
That's like wherever we go, whether it's Bray Road, uh, you
know, the bryn Ath and beast over in bryn Ath and uh and the
ghosts you know that we're we've been investigating, you know. And I say
this Steve too, you know, in the ghost situations, you know,
I go into that a lot of time. I'm skeptically because I want to
see really what people are seeing and what are they feeling. And having dom
on the case, he's able to pinpoint all the history and all of the
paranormal activity that I know. I don't tell Dominic until we get to that
venue. And it's amazing to see him, and it's really great to get
it on camera of him going into those hot spots, you know, and
then corroborating what I already know. And it's just amazing how that happens.
And then not only that, then we're capturing all of these other energies in
these other areas and then getting names. He's getting names of people, and
then it's basically like a whole story that's unfolding. It's incredible. One thing
I wanted to do before we go on with that, I meant to as
part of the recap. One week after that investigation into Bray Road, you
guys went to the Pine Barrens, right, yes, yes, tell us
about that experience. Well, I'll tell you and then I'll let dom say.
Um. You know, we we met up with Eric Spinner, who
was a great big big foot researcher, and his partner Art mac Um.
I've known Eric for a number of years and he said, look, you
know there's been a lot of juvenile big foot sightings going on here in the
in this area called the Bowl in the Pine Barrens. Do you guys want
to come out and do a video? And I said, yeah, let's
do it. Let's just get let's get it done. So we went out
there a week after Elkhorn and this was October eleventh to night of October eleventh,
and we get out there, we go about what five miles into the
Pine barons. Thank god we had Dominic's truck because there this road that we
were on, the fire roads were so like I mean, the crate they
were like the potholes were almost like craters. I mean yet almost the size
of the truck. Yeah, swallowed Eric's car definitely, it would have that
Toyota would have been under the water, but it was. It was crazy.
So we went five miles into the pine barrens and then Um got out
of the truck what about six hundred yards into the into the woods and set
up a base camp. And then we started, like, you know,
just talking to them, to Eric and Art, about their research, what
they do, how they how they go about it, and what's the protocols
for you know, researching and investigating Bigfoot. And then I'll let you handle
the rest on them. Then what happened after that? I was I was
talking with Art and I was interviewing him and asking him how long he was
doing it. And then all the sudden Eric was just like he starts shoohing
me, and I'm like what, And all of a sudden we hear a
whoop and it's it's a it's like a child whoop. It's it's not an
adult. And it happened. And then Eric Spinner's wife, Heather, She's
like, do you want me to answer it back? And Eric Spinner said
yes, so she answered it back and this went on for probably about three
to five minutes. She was whooping back at this thing that was whooping at
her, and they were kind of having a conversation. And these guys were
in the middle of nowhere. It's unlikely that somebody was out there messing with
you. Oh correct, No doubt, no doubt. Five six miles back
on a fire road in the pine barrens of New Jersey, which it's all
sand and there's pine trees, that's all it is, and there there was
thousand totally. Yeah, and it's literally they call it a fire road because
it's a break in the trees to help stop fires from crossing to go to
other sections of the trees. So it was just it was absolutely amazing.
But it was all within five to ten minutes we were out there. This
happened, Yeah, and then like Dominics said, it kept whooping back and
forth. And then what we kept hearing though was this big rustling sound going
on. And then Dominics starts and then Art also because we had talked about
this as well, but we saw like little red pin points of light,
you know, and it was like, this is a weird phenomena. And
that's another thing that these guys have been seeing as well in the wood.
It's like these little red pin points of light um and this thing seemed to
be going away from us. But uh, you know, if that was
the juvenile bigfoot, that's what that was. That was the bigger rustling sound.
We always said was had to be mama mama bear so to speak,
checked in the cub. Yeah, but it's definitely not a bear, that's
for damn sure. Because it was. It was. It was the weirdest
thing, Steve. I mean, it was like this whoop, and I
mean just for it to keep answering back and like you, like you said,
there's and there was not a soul around yep, And Dominic again described
the difference in feeling and being out there was what could have been a big
foot and compared to the beast on Bray Road. Yeah, Like like I
had said it, I felt safer out of the Pine Barons than I did
out on Lee Hampel's field. You know, as I described, I felt
like I was in a shark tank in the water and I was holding the
bait strapped to me out in Lee's field. When we were out in the
Pine Barons, I didn't feel there was any aggression. I didn't feel unsafe.
It's just a total different feeling from what it was at Bray Road.
Bray Road, there's definitely some kind of a portal or something out there that's
that's not I don't want to say it's evil, but it's not good.
It's not good. But in the Pine Barons very it was very calm,
very peaceful, the whooping, even though we heard the rustling around us.
I never once felt like we were in any danger, and neither did Steve.
I mean I didn't feel that way either. I even told them,
I said, look, we had the night vision on it, and I
had said at one point, why don't we turn the lights off so folks
at home could see what? You know, what we're seeing. And basically
it was pitch black. You could see you couldn't see your hand in front
of your face. You know, it was that black. It was.
It was that dark. Um. But we only had like a little slipper
of a moon too, right, Tom, there was only Yeah, it
was. It wasn't overcast. It was a nice night, but yeah,
there was no moon. Yes, the whole thing that, that whole night
was wild man, I mean, getting a trifecta of paranormal activity on Lee's
farm, and then the following week Bigfoot. That was just a whole thing.
And I'm sure he told you to have the power went out in Elcorn
after that investigation, right, yeah, the power went out that night,
man, So it was something was weird. That was a weird time frame.
And then we just did this video and I found out from Charlie who
did who was on the investigation with us last Sunday. April thirty apparently is
the where the veil is the thinnest. It's like the halfway point from now
until Halloween. And that was it was April thirty, and it's a German
and I can't remember what he what he called it, but uh, if
I try to pronounce it, I'll sound y'all won't make it. But it
definitely wasn't October Fest, right, No, No, it was like with
with with forkin or something. I who knows. I don't know, but
I think I don't try and say it, you might end up saying some
kind of a foul word. It will, and I'll let Dom take it
from there. Because you know those Italians, Steve, you know how they
talk with their hands, right, that's a good thing. I can imagine
the gestures that might be flying. Oh, my god. Yeah, Eric,
you talked to a lady once I think that saw a big foot and
she said it kind of it started to become hard to see. It became
pixelated or something like that, or yes, yes, this was weird,
man. I mean I actually I read an account in this publication, The
Guardian, and it was an account of a woman and her husband in Wisconsin.
I think it was Bloyd, Wisconsin, so maybe thirty thirty minutes from
Elkhorn, and they're on the side of the road. They're driving down the
road and they look over and she sees this thing, this creature dog or
whatever. She thought it was along the tree line, and it was pretty
far away, so they couldn't stop right then and there. So they turned
around and when they turned around at her window was now toward the field and
the tree line right, so she was looking at it that way now that
the car was the other way. So all of a sudden, this thing's
coming up to the car, and she had a feeling of like, oh,
you know, like wonderment, like what the hell's this? And all
of a sudden, though, as it got closer, it started getting harder
to see, which was really weird. She said, the edge of it
looked like it was getting pixelated, and then it laid down right almost maybe
not even two hundred feet from the car, and then both of them,
the husband and wife, had this extreme sense of fear and got out of
there. So it was very very strange. So I don't know what she
was seeing, but the way she described this thing was like the head was
like diamond shaped and the body was like almost like a bulldog, but with
longer legs. Well, that's very weird kind of effect, you know.
It's been was reported by the Sherman's when they owned the skin Walker ranch back
on the nineties. I think it was there was some kind I was on
incident where they they saw this thing come out of the woods, and later
on they saw the movie Predator and they thought, well, that was kind
of the effect that they saw. Okay, you're you're familiar with David Politis
and Missing four one one yell in the book on Hunters, the uh who
was at jan mccabee. She was in a deer blind and she saw this
uh sort of a shimmer effect, this blurring effect in the trees. This
thing was moving around. She everything got real quiet. She took a photograph,
and her husband, Bruce mccabee, you know, an expert on photography.
They look at it. You look at that thing and there's like black
hairs coming out the side of it. And at the same time, their
nephew was a band practice at the high school about a half mile away.
They saw this big blowing orb over the high school area. So and then
there's just one more example, a valley of the Schookum. Sally Shepherd Wolford
wrote the book her friend Yodie Native American lady. They would they would see
that. They'd called it the shimmer, and the tradition was that was the
portal that Bigfoot would step through. And even Tom Powell, who was a
bi is a bigfoot researcher, he calls it the quicksilver curtain. And he's
talked to several bigfoot investigators that look at bigfoot is a very flesh and blood
animal, have also seen that. So this is something that does show up.
And that's kind of creepy that that these things may have some way to
camouflage themselves, and you know, it's it's it's it's cry enough to think
that they're out there anyway. It might step on the dark. Well,
that's what I think. I think that's really That's one of the things that
we're looking at with Lees, with a lot of Lee's photos and his research,
is that the hair samples that he got, you know, when you
put them under the microscope, those hair samples are like translucent. So I'm
wondering if that's the case, is does this have some kind of like some
kind of cloaking ability. It's almost like like if you know how deer are
so great at blending into their environment, you could a deer could be right
there and you could like hardly see it, you know. Um. And
it was a case at some point I was like, right across the street
here from my house that our dog is barking, and like what is he
barking at? And I had a look and strained my eyes, and there
it was was there was a deer over there. And it was so that
could be the thing with big Foot or dog Man, that these things are
like just able to absorb their surroundings and they're there but you just can't see
them, you know, I asked Dominic earlier, Uh, you have this
sort of paradox where you have these creatures that leave footprints uh, you know,
they're well, they leave footprints sometimes, let's put it that way.
Yeah, they eat bait, they eat road kill. They act like animals,
yet they they're surrounded by this apparently this bizarre technology. And also when
you try and get photographs of them, sometimes the technology fails, like there's
some kind of an intelligence or force that's protecting them. You have any any
you know, that's something I've been been trying to deal with. You have
any idea how those two fit together? Go ahead? I wish, I
wish I could. I honestly, I you know, we sit there and
we talk and we say, you know, is there a phenomena that links
bigfoot and aliens? Are are the aliens dropping Bigfoot off? And are Sack
actually made a good point and said he's wondering if the aliens are actually picking
them up to experiment on them, because they are able to hide and be
able to do this stuff, whereas we humans do not have that. So
he was, you know, he's like, I don't think they're actually depositing
them. He's like, I think they're putting them back where they picked them
up from. And when you see a UFO and Bigfoot together, could it
be that that's what he was saying too. Could it be that the aliens
are actually, you know, examining and doing all these tests on Bigfoot,
you know, or is Bigfoot and extraterrestrial or maybe it's just something I think
of it as sort of a paranormal diorama. Sometimes perhaps the whole thing is
projected or staged. And maybe it's too simplistic to think that the UFO is
coming down letting Bigfoot out to stretch his legs, you know, may not,
it may not be quite that simple. But you know the photo that
Lee has which really intrigued me a lot, and it's it's of these orbs
in the middle of the daytime. You could see these these clear orbs.
I don't know if you saw those Steves, but I'll tell you if they're
little orbs that you could see, they're Plaine is day and inside the orb
it looks like the creature or something is inside the orb in like a t
like a cross. And that made me think. After we heard after we
saw the UFO, then we heard the howls, I'm thinking to myself,
could this thing have deposited the creature? And that's and then suddenly we hear
the howls. It's just something that we couldn't see, you know, but
it was. It was, but we just couldn't see it. Sometimes go
ahead, No, I just did. There's so many rabbit holes you can
go down with that thought. Sometimes the ORB or I think Andy, you're
aware of different scenarios where they do see the ORB but it does seem to
morph into an entity or whatever. Yeah, Paul Devereaux calls those proto entities
where you can't it's hard to make it distinguish between the what appears to be
the craft or whatever and the creature. It's almost like they're one and together.
There's even a sort of a mothman like sighting in Can't England in sixty
three That was like that. It was kind of a ball of light that
came down and then they saw this thing manifest So who Yeah, we don't
really know how it all fits together. But speaking of UFOs, I understand
that there's been a flap going on in Pennsylvania for some time. Oh oh
my god. Yeah, we're we're working on a UFO video right now,
UFOs Bucks County. Um. Actually, it's been going on since I guess
what last year or the year before that, Dom, We we uh we
interviewed, Yeah, we interviewed Leslie. Remember Yeah, we went out to
their house and it's actually it's coming up to that time of the year.
Uh well it's coming up to that time of the year where it was spotted.
But um, yeah, we we interviewed Leslie down at Peace Valley Park
which is down in Shelfont, and we got her story and she took videos
of these lights over top of the lake that we're just moving up and down
and flickering. Uh, just really strange. And it was late at night
when it happened, like two to thirty in the morning. Yeah. Really
well that was that was the That was the one video that we got then
about I guess of it. A year later, Um, I get a
call from this guy or by a message on my Facebook page from a guy
Mitch Sherman, who lives right down the road from us here in Pergacy.
He lives in Ottsville, saying is spending the video of these crazy lights that
he's seeing on a nightly basis. And so I'm looking at the video I
showed Dom and I'm like, holy crap, this is it was something really
really interesting because it was definitely not a star, and it's it's these things
that he's saying that it's there's little points, there's points of light coming off
of this thing, and then he could see little objects coming to and from
it, Yeah, to this bigger object. Now. Dominic just said it's
coming around the time of the year that he saw it. He seems he's
been seeing this thing every year for like the last two and a half I
guess two and a half years, And so we're gonna go up and do
a night investigation to see he thinks it's a seasonal thing for some reason,
that this thing's out there. But I don't know if that's the case,
but that's one of the things that we're gonna we're gonna look into, and
we're gonna go out there and to his property and do a night investigation.
We were already there. We talked to them, and they're great people and
have no problems talking about it, which I love too. I love the
fact that a lot of these witnesses are coming forward well, you know,
with their story because you know, I think it's we're in a time period
right now where people are more open and open to the subject more than ever.
Yeah, I was gonna say. And the crazy thing about it is,
you know he's telling us about it. His wife was telling us about
it, and then he mentions his son had that's college age, had friends
over and they were they were out on the back patio and they were hanging
out and every one of those kids saw so it. You know, there's
multiple people that have seen whatever this thing is. Yeah, so you know,
it's hard to discount when that many people have seen it. It hasn't
just been going on for over ten years. Well, yeah, it's we've
we've been having activities since two thousand and eight, and it was we had
our huge UFO flap in two thousand and eight. But I don't think it's
ever left. I think it's always still been here, you know. But
we had a huge flap. It was around the time that remember Texas had
that UFO sighting Stephensville, yep, Stevensville, And there was two thousand and
eight and it started from January all the way through July of two thousand and
eight, and it seemed to be from Stevensville and it came it came east
and then it culminated in July here over Bucks County and I'll tell you you
know there's They even did a special on it called documentary called UFOs over Earth
and they said the Bucks County flap. And they talked to a construction worker
over here in Pipersville that saw like an octagonal shaped object like just floating on
like a platform, floating in the in the air during a thunderstorm. He
sees this thing floating and he could see the outline of it during the lightning.
So very very strange man. And and so basically people are seeing what
they're seeing now is they're seeing this solid a solid object, multiple lights blow,
it's hovering, silent and uh and it's just it's admitting a lot of
light and it's moving in different areas of the sky. Um. So that's
one of the things that we were looking into. And that's what I would
love to get this on video. UM. I just got a great video
from one of our witnesses that saw a three points of light again in a
triangle formation going over the going over the highway and all three just disappearing,
and then another one right down the nurse the hospital, Joe Webber is white.
Yeah, yep, um they so she's a nurse at the Stilestown Hospital.
She's looking out the window and she's like, well, that's odd.
And as she's looking at it, she's seeing these three points of light in
the middle of the daytime in a in a triangle formation, and suddenly they
go into a straight line. And she videotaped and I have the video.
Yeah, and that's crazy, she's she's videotaping it from the hospital out of
window. Yeah. And you know it wasn't it wasn't reflectional lights inside or
anything like that, because it was out there and it was over the trees.
You could definitely see that it was. They were moving and it was
very strange. I understand you guys gonna be doing a night vigil a couple
of times in a hot spot area hoping to get Oh yeah, we're definitely
doing that. Steve for sure, hazard pay. Steve hazard pay, I
know, hazard pay. That's that's how he gets paid. Hey, listen,
he'd get Steve Dominic gets paid weekly. W E A K L E
Y. Now one right, And now I know you guys have done all
kinds of investigating, but I don't think you've ever been to a point pleasant
and look into the moths. Man. No, we have been, and
we should and we're going to. Okay, just give me a far.
You're gonna give us a tour of the museum. Oh absolutely absolutely. And
since you since you just celebrated your one year anniversary, we can come down
and have a house party. Yeah, let me know ahead of time.
Sometimes, uh times the house is not Let's put it this way, nobody's
ever ever slapped a good housekeeping seal on my eye house. It's a bit
of a challenge sometimes. And you've got to invite invite Andy over from across
the pond there and come on over. You come over these days. One
of these days, I'm going to make kids. Well, I'm geting several
times to America, unfortunate, end up one coast to the other, into
New York a few times, and minto the West Coast as well. So
always mister to the middle. So as long as you don't take a boat
called Titanic, you'll be fine. Yeah right, yeah, man. And
uh, I also understand Eric, you have an interest in the Injured Cold
phenomena. I do. I really had. That's fascinating. That story's fascinating
me for a while. And one of your favorite people. John keel Um
wrote in his uh and I have the book that you had years ago,
Um, where he covered everything that was going on paranormal wise. But what
this one section about injured cold Um. And it's fascinating because it wasn't only
the Darrenburger story. There were also children that saw this thing in New Jersey.
Oh really, I didn't know about that. It says they saw this
guy in New Jersey, the same type thing. Oh, I know what
you mean, the guy with the shiny suit and kind of the big yes,
and he was and the grinning man. And that's and they saw and
they saw, these kids saw him in New Jersey and they were um.
And it was actually, like I want to say, like around Patterson,
New Jersey, somewhere around there. And it was right near the freeway I
think, and behind a large fence or something like that. Yes, yep,
exactly. And so a very interesting comment, you know, connection there
as well. Well. I think you know, I think it's pretty clear
that Darrenburger embellished some of his stuff later, although he may have had an
initial experience. The thing is that there was another case that happened a few
days before before window, Darrenburger made the news. A guy was traveling down
round seventy seven. The same kind of elongated craft kind of forced him over,
and this guy got out an injured cold type, although he didn't give
a name, with another pointless conversation, and this guy went to Keel and
Mary Hire, and Mary Hire the reporter that Keele worked with, and he
said, I just got to tell somebody. So he tells this crazy story
and then he decides a little bit later, and this is before again before
Darrenburger shows up. He says, you know, I don't think we're gonna
we're gonna go through with it publicly. So Keel thought, oh, well,
you know, there's nothing I can do with this. It's a bli
item. I'm just going to forget about it. And he's talking to the
guy and the guy says, you know that scientist Fellas said we should just
forget all about it, and Keel said what scientist fella He says, well,
I don't know, but he seemed to know what he was talking about.
And Keel said, well, how did he know about your sighting?
Because the only people he told was Mary Higher in this and Keel and he
said he said, damned if I know then, and then there was you
know about the other one? There was one came later a woman, a
woman in Gallipolis across the river. She got ahold of John Keel, and
she's very nervous because it looked like she was afraid she wasn't going to be
believed. And she was a nurse. She was getting out of the out
of the wherever she was working, I don't know exactly where, and one
of these craft comes down, and these two guys get out, injured,
cold types, and another pointless conversation. She's she's frozen, she's she's paralyzed,
she can't move and uh, and then they go away. The next
day. Actually, she asked Keel, she said, did that man ever
say that he saw him again? And Keel says what he says he did,
And she says she saw these two guys in downtown Gallipolis in street clothes
and one kind of nodded as at her as you want, oh my god,
and had freaked her out. At the same time, on the farm
she's on, she's had cattle mutilations, her son of seeing these large box
car like UFOs flying over the land, and she has classic haunting phenomena going
on in her house where the apparitions are just walking through the walls. So
yeah, I know, so that's Uh, those other incidents make me think
that there was something to it. But but to echo that guy, I'll
be damned if I know what what the hell was going I wonder who,
But I wonder who the scientist guy though, was it was? I know,
probably not probably ah, I mean shades of the Men in Black or
those people. Oh yeah, you know the people that try and and you
know, put app on these kind of sightings. But I don't know.
That's funny, Steve, because it's it's really like that I didn't hear those
two stories. That's really cool. I like that a lot. I just
think that there's gotta be something to it. I know Darren Burger probably embellished
it as he went along, you know, with just things like that.
I'm sure he had the initial sighting and the things that happened to him.
But um, you know, as with everything, you know, as stories
get told, they get retold, and they get embellished, and then you
know, it gets to be like you know, that's why I like to
go back to first edition books. With like UFO books, because then you
get the real accounts of the first written story you know, of of of
those accounts. That's why I like the Honor the Interrupted Journey, you know
from Better I mean, incredible book and just and just hearing the hypnosis sessions.
And it's so cool that you guys at the museum have Wally Darrenburger's audio
recordings of his image. Yeah, I love that. Have you ever heard
them? Oh? Absolutely, yeah, there's so yeah, it's uh,
it's incredible. I mean they just I mean, and you can hear it
in his voice too, that he's just a simple guy. You know,
why is it? What does he got to gain from this? You know?
So it's really incredible, and you know, even still even the government
now I don't think they honestly, I don't think they know what's going on
with the UFOs. They don't know, and they just they may know,
they may be covering up what they know, but they don't know what these
things are. I mean, you know, it's the things that the pilots
just shot down. I think they yes, they were balloons, but the
other things that these navy pilots are seeing going thirteen thousand miles an hour.
They're not balloons. Well they they I'm sure they there's a lot they don't
know. They don't want to admit, they don't know. They don't want
to admit that we're completely powerless over whatever this is exactly. You know.
That's that's the uh, that's the scary part of the whole thing. But
and getting the answers there. So that's the whole fascinating part of what we
do as researchers is we're we're you always leave with more questions than answers.
There's never any kind of like definitive answer, like what it is? You
know, it's like air, It's like how does it work? I don't
know, but we need it for you know, for life. It's that
kind of idea, you know. It's like it's it's just a never ending,
uh, I don't know, never ending questions, never ending source of
material. Because at the end of the day, people are seeing something.
But even though we're sort of beating our head against the wall and we we
get some answers and then there's more questions. Yet we are all gluttons for
punishment and we keep going yeah, or you like or you're like fox Molder
on the X Files, and you you try to get to that ending part
of that story and then all of a sudden there's the there's the cigarette smoking
man right there, you know, and it's like always blocking your way.
So that's another thing too, or diverting somewhere. At least you had a
script, yeah, exactly. So what besides going out to the dead of
night looking for the Mothership and in September looking for the dog Man again,
what what other kind of investigations do you guys have coming up? Oh?
Man, well, so many. Yeah, we've got a lot. On
Monday, we're going to be doing a follow up investigation at a haunted restaurant
called mccool's Red Lion Inn in Quakertown, Pennsylvania, which is incredible place.
Uh, dom and I were there what five years ago? Don, Yeah,
about five years ago. It's been that long. It's been that long.
Yeah, And we saw some really crazy stuff that night. So we're
going to do that follow up on Monday. Dominic and I are speaking at
a cryptic festival where Ken Gerhart's going to be at. And Esteban Sarmiento,
uh, the Bigfoot, he's a big Foot authority guy, so some people
there from the Travel Channel, So Dominic and I are are going to be
in good company that way, that you know. And that's in pre Damn
Boy at Kearney Cottage, and that's the first time we're going to be speaking
there about the Beast of Bray Road and about the Pine Baron's Big Foot.
And then we've got some other investigations. I mean, we've got another investigation
coming up in Hershey, Pennsylvania at a place called the Englewood, which is
going to be really, really fun. And then we've got some more follow
ups that we're doing a lot of releases soon of videos that we've with that
investigation that we did in January and February. On June second, we're doing
a screening release of Hallowed Browns at the Homestead part too, so that's gonna
be a lot of fun. That's a place called New Spirit Old Soul and
it's in Boyertown, Pennsylvania. So a lot of stuff and stuff coming in
all the time. We've got people calling us all the time for videos to
do videos, and it's phenomenal. Well happen to have you guys back on
and maybe we can focus more on the ghost side of it. Yeah,
absolutely, Yeah, then we don't need Eric exactly. I'll stay home.
No, we want you to give another dramatic entrance. Again, I'll come
an hour late. I feel like a real radio guy when I get people
to come in. You know, a different game. And latest demig is
Eric Mintel. Finally nothing of its silence. Okay, and again, guys,
tell us where everybody can find out find your videos and more about you.
Guys. You can find us on Facebook at Eric Mintel investigates YouTube.
Eric Mentel investigates, Um, what else dom Instagram? Yep, Eric Mantel
investigates Dominic fir TV. To go look at Dominic's hotel on Instagram. There
you go, careful, there's a there's a premium. There's a premium to
go on there. Um, and uh, then let's see what else?
And then yeah TV television, Yeah, Princetel. It's so if anyone has
any like smart television, they could type in Central New Jersey Network and once
they add that to their channel list, it's free. Um, you could
watch our program every Saturday night at eleven o'clock and it's uh, it's from
eleven to eleven thirty. They play us every Saturday night, and then we
just got picked up in the Philadelphia area at Temple University Television every Saturday at
one o'clock in the afternoon and then nine o'clock at night. So every Saturday
at one and nine we're on Temple University Television. So that's gonna be a
good market to be in as well. So you guys aren't busy at all,
not at all, but not at all. Well, guys, thanks
for being here. Absolutely, Sneaker has always what a pleasure man, always
a pleasure to be on your show. And Andy, I told you these
guys were good. Yeah, so sat here sort of questions to us and
once the game and that a challenge because you guys are just so interesting to
listen to the question so you have to come back and actually I can get
in ask a few my questions next time. Definitely, Steve, you gotta
give Andy a chance, man god Lock and everything. Well, I listen.
I try not to piss off Andy because he produces the show. Always
nobody's gonna hear this if all sorts of ways, don't worry. There you
go. It was so interesting to you guys talking so much information. I
just didn't want to interrupt. I always say listen. I always say Steve
has a great face for radio and don't forget a voice for print. There
you go. I love it. Oh my god. Okay, I've better
any any further thoughts on our comments. No, that should do it.
Thank you so much, Steve. Okay, hold on, we're gonna do
the clothes out here. You didn't just stick around for a little bit.
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