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What's up everybody? Welcome back to
episode two forty five on Hobby Hotline.

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We are here being hosted on the
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and subscribe button as well. Today I

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am joined by the wonderful Erica Love
What You Collect and Brody t K.

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We'll start with you. Erica,
how's your week going? What you got

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going on? I'm doing good.
My week is good. I actually just

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got back into the country. My
daughter and I backpack rope for a month,

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so we literally just got back on
Thursday. So we're just adjin um

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jet leg and all that jazz.
But it was cool. And also when

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we were in London, we went
to a sports cards show, so that

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was our first international um show,
so it was really cool. Awesome.

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That's really cool. And I love
your aces shirt you got on today.

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We're gonna get into some WNBA topics
a little bit later on some women's college

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basketball all that kind of stuff.
We also, like I said, we

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have Brody the Kid here with us
today. Brody, how's it going good?

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I only got one week? Like
the school. So that's awesome.

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A little tired, got final,
but that'll be awesome on something with that.

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Yeah, well I love that.
I mean, I'm sure we all

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probably remember that last week, last
week of school, vibes are probably uh,

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you know, vibes are probably pretty
high. Getting ready for the summer.

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What do you got, you know, I mean, I know you

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you've got like sports and stuff,
which you've got anything going on the summer,

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like the you know, sports related
or cards related that you want to

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like shout out. Oh yeah,
I mean we got the national obviously,

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I don't have baseball. I've got
camp. So it's gonna be fun summer.

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I can't wait. Awesome. Yeah, yeah, that's exciting for you

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know, Erica and I I'm sure
there isn't really much of a summer break.

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It's kind of once you get out
of college and once you get out

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of high school, it kind of
just all blends together. Summer is actually

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just the weather where you kind of
stay inside a little bit because it gets

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a little bit too hot. I
mean for me, I'm down here in

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Atlanta, so like the summer is
like it'll be you know, it'll be

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nine o'clock in the morning, it'll
be like one hundred and ten degrees.

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So I'm trying to figure out,
you know, I've been getting back on

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my running schedule, so I'm trying
to figure out when is going to be

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the best time for that with you
know, with the hot weather. I

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wanted to give a shout out to
everybody watching as well. Leaven comments,

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leave us a comment with you know
what, where you're watching this show today.

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I mean, that's always a fun
topic that I see people kind of

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commenting from all over the country.
I think that's one of the cool things

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about shows like this is you know, all over the country, and then

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we've had some international viewers as well, so that's always exciting. We are

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actually going to start out with an
interesting news story coming out of the NFL

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Rookie Premiere, which is for people
who are you know, maybe new to

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sports card. This is basically the
time of the year when the rookies for

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the NFL start to sign some of
their cards. They also get the photo

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shoots for some of the cards.
So you know, we've seen like Don

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Russ Optic all those kinds of um
all those all all those kinds of cards,

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and then I think Prism National treasures
and they start to sign some of

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their collegiate cards as well. And
one of the news stories that actually came

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out was that on one of the
first days here, Adam Schefter reported that

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the four top quarterbacks, Bryce Young, CJ. Shroud, Uh, Anthony

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Richardson, and Will Levis were attending
attending a lunch with Fanatic CEO Michael Rubin,

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Tom Brady, and then Travis Scott
also was in attendance. There there

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were tending or they were discussing entrepreneurship
and brand building, which I mean,

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in my opinion, I think this
is one of the big differences that we're

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going to see within sports cards when
it comes to brand you know, brand

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building and what the company is doing
or some of these players and how they're

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kind of treating the players. I
mean, Erica, I'll start out with

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you what we're kind of some of
your initial thoughts when he saw this news,

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Um, this was trind to me
as expected. Um, obviously they're

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going to go to the direction of
you know, more player involvement, more

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um, player first incentives, making
it more experiential for the consumers and growing

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in the market base. So yeah, this is as expected and more to

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come and it's going to be less
of what we're used to seeing in the

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past and currently, and uh yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be a

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new new world. I believe what
fanatics is going down, right, Yeah,

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I agree. And I mean I
think with Michael Rubin, compared to

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maybe some of the other I guess
CEOs that have been CEOs of sports card

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companies, I mean, I don't
think we really have grasped how famous Michael

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Rubin is. I think that's you
know, he can call Devin Booker in

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a card shop and he picks up
in two seconds. You know, he

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gets Travis Scott, he gets Tom
Brady to come to come to these events.

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So Brodie, I'll kick to you
as well, like what do you

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think of this news? Like,
how do you think it's gonna affect cards

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or do you think it's more of
just you know, maybe fanatics trying to

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help build sort of the brands a
little bit better. Well, I think

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it could be kind of interesting if
somehow they could strike a deal with some

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of these quarterbacks. I mean we
don't know obviously, but if they somehow

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do some exclusives, it could be
game changing, especially for guys like Bryce

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Young and c. J. Strout
A for Pini and for Fanatics because they

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would be out of Panini sets,
which would Pani sets would go down,

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and then for Fanatics sets, it
would be interesting. Would they put them

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into all their Bowman University sets?
And maybe just why all these collegiates that

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I don't know why it said Collie
Collegiate they've been putting out because they put

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out Bowman you Chrome, then they
put out Bowman's Best, and then they

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just put out Bowman Inception. And
this is why they've kind of been putting

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them out, like hey, or
around, so we just want to keep

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putting these out so you can see
them. You can see them. So

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they were like, hey, we're
here, so we're gonna put these guys

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in there soon, so be ready. But I don't know, it could

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be interesting. I don't know it
just yeah. I mean, I think

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I think TOPS has sort of shown
over the past few years that they weren't

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I don't know if scared is necessarily
the right word, but they are more

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willing to come out with these unlicensed
sets if they know that in the future

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they're going to be getting the license
sets. I mean, we had a

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bow and Chrome U basketball on a
BOWM and Chrome U football set last year

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which had the Bryce Young I think
C J. Shroud was in that,

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but it wasn't licensed. I think
the interesting thing actually with that Bryce Young

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card is that, like Alabama's uniforms
are so like not logo heavy, so

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like that Bryce Young, people might
not even realize that that Bryce Young actually

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isn't licensed because I don't think Alabama's
uniforms, other than like maybe a logo

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on the front, really have that
many logos on it. Like I think,

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you know, there's a lot of
more photoshop going on with some of

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the other some of the other cards. So you know, one of the

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things that Brady said, I think
there was a video that came out.

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He was talking about how he talked
to Will Levis. He was like,

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you know, being drafted in the
second round really doesn't matter that much,

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and then he kicked it back to
Bryce Young. It was like, yeah,

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being picked first overall really doesn't matter, because he kind of was comparing

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his experience to himself being you know, drafted in the sixth round. So

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I think it's kind of interesting the
dynamic of quarterback cards in the hobby so

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ericare for you like if you're looking
at I mean, I'm not sure how

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into buying quarterback cards you are necessarily, but like from from your perspective,

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like, do you think that the
risk of buying one of the higher drafted

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quarterbacks is worth it versus like you
know, for Brady, no one really

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knew that Brady was going to turn
into what he did, but like maybe

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spending a little bit less money buying
maybe somebody that is, let's just say,

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drafted in the later rounds, Like, do you think that the risk

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and reward is worth it buying those
like expensive, higher end, higher pit

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draft pick cards. I had I'm
two fold this question. So personally now

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um, but overall and where I
see things going, I think it will

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will start to make a little bit
more sense because I really think that we're

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going more and more towards the direction
of sports betting UM mindset and how the

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hobby operates with the cards. It's
already there, Like, but I think

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it's going to be ten X and
two years is going to be ten X

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is literally going to be like walking
into casino placing his sports bets, and

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it's gonna like that's how I believe
that we're going in terms of this uh

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so yeah, and with fanatics machine
behind him, with the marketing and like

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you said, Michael Ruben, like
we didn't realize how famous he was.

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It's not about how famous he is. It's about how in tune and how

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connected he is to the individuals that
he associates with. That's what's that's what's

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different about him. And um,
you know, like I mean a person

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I don't care about, you know, people and whatever statuses and stuff like

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that. But what I do admire
about him is that he at least tries

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to be over minded and learning about
other people's views and then incorporate in business

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and in the world real world trying
to help. So um yeah, so

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you know, I just think that
uh yeah, Pry, I think I

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think we will will we will hit
another price increase once, you know,

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they really roll in their marketing strategies
and stuff like that, because new consumers

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are becoming in really exciting, anxious
to do something new and with such low

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demand, like with new when we'll
be safe we double the hobby space down,

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there's going to be demand for the
cars and it's not the supplied that's

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going to be available, so that's
going to automatically, you know, drive

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prices up. So yeah, right, yeah, I mean I think that's

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a great point. And actually to
your point, I think that's sort of,

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uh, sort of what I meant
when in terms of like the famous

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conversation with Michael Rubin, I think
he is, you know, has so

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many different has so many connections,
but so many different types of connections that

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I think it's very it's be very
interesting to sort of see how he can

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like merge like sort of all these
connections like almost I feel like it'll almost

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be like The Avengers where he'll like
at one point there will be like,

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you know, I think this is
a good example him and then like you

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know, he obviously his friends with
like preeople like jay Z mcmill. I

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mean, we all kind of uh, these are the friendships that he sort

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of is always posting on social media
stuff like that. But I mean i'd

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be I'll be interested to see sort
of maybe some of the behind the scenes

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stuff that fanatics is going to do. So I'll kick it over to you,

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Brodie. When it comes to the
foot football cards kind of within this

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hobby, do you think that do
you think that fanatics coming in and eventually

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they're going to be making these football
cards that they're going to be more popular

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than what Panini does. I mean, I guess maybe the question that I

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have is for you, like what
are your hopes when it comes to fanatics

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making football cards versus like what Panini
is doing now. I guess I think

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that's kind of like a time time
will tell kind of question. I'm not

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sure. I think we'll really see
as they start making them. I don't

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know. That's a hard one to
guess. And I think we've also see

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two If they ended up buying pretty
too, I think that could also be

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something that happens to um. Yeah, I don't know. It's a tough

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one. Yeah. I think what
I see with them there, it's going

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to be a lot of new,
new, new, you know, mixing

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with like new designs, new products, and then mixing and physical with experiential

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you know. So it's going to
be just a lot of just new.

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It's gonna be kind of like the
Jetsons, you know, we back in

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the based to my suggestions like oh
my god, it's flying cars, and

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yeah, it's going to be kind
of like that in three years when we

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see what fanatics does. Now.
I'm not saying it's gonna be good or

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bad, but it's just gonna be
a lot of innovation and trying new things

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and you know, and really trying
to grow because obviously they're here to make

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money, you know, so the
only way to actually make money, money

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that they invested in buying all this
stuff is to expand the market, and

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expand the market. The market the
general public does not it's not going to

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really be interested in the sports card
market like as is. They have one

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or two cards, fine, but
being active no, But so they have

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to take an approach of you know, experience base and different things. I

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was wondering too because I was playing
prison Monopoly, which also a very fun

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game. I was wondering too,
Well, they just can they eventually just

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like buy everything at some point,
Like because I just brought up them buying

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penny, I wonder if they will
just end up buying like a ton of

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companies, Like I actually kind of
think it's possible and it could just end

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up being a monopoly, Like I
think it could happen. I think it

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could happen. Yeah, I mean
I agree with that. I mean I

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think a couple other sort of pieces
of news that are kind of related to

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this is like, uh, DraftKings
had you know, they're like the fantasy

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sports and now they're getting into like
sports betting. They had recently a twenty

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eighteen prison break that they were released
that they did like over this past week.

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I actually didn't wasn't able to catch
the actual broadcast, but I know

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that they were selling spots in like
a break like DraftKings, like I think

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is one of the biggest sports companies, and I mean I think Mike,

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I think Kaylish Effort, Matt Kaylish, I think his name is. He

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is in the Gary V circle with
DraftKings, and then I think that also

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kind of includes Michael Rubin as well, So I mean that's maybe where you're

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seeing that. Fanatics also recently bought
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like one of the bigger sports books
in I don't know if it's in the

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world or in the United States or
whatever, but I mean I agree with

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you, Brodie actually, like I
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be like, Okay, we're good, or if they if they're going to

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continue to keep buying the stuff.
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that they're going to get over their
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I don't know necessarily. I mean, they're a big enough company that

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I think they can bring anybody in. They can bring any industry expert in

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probably because like especially the way that
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bunch of different ways. I don't
know if they're going to keep buying different

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entities and different markets and try and
really just become like the the everything sports

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company. You if you want to
buy clothing, you can buy stuff through

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them, if you want to buy
cards, if you want to bet on

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sports, if you want to maybe
fantasy sports is coming up soon. But

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it's like it's kind of everything.
So I mean, i'll broady, I'll

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ask you this question. Do you
think because I think you had a good

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point there, like do you think
that Fanatics is do you think that they're

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buying too many things? Or like
do you wish that like they'll continue to

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grow and maybe become sort of like
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maybe they're buying a little too much, or maybe maybe they need to Maybe

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they're like good enough like where they
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pieces of the puzzle, or maybe
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need to add, But they don't
need to like keep expanding and get like

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everything, you know what I mean, Like they don't need to be the

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monopoly, but they need pieces.
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it still needs I feel like there
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What is what makes this hobby like
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the competition that we have. Yeah, I'll take it to you as well,

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and I ask you sort of the
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I agree with you, Rudy personally, I totally agree with you. When

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the flip side business wise, you
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Like no matter how nicer and touch
someone is who's running the company is,

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it's still about you know, increasing
profits and you know all of that jazz.

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So it's you know, for them, it's kind of like they're saying,

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like, you know, I used
to play basketball, and it's being

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saying like a coach would rather have
opposing players that are like really good or

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calls and problems, They would rather
have them on their bench and not play

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them versus having to go against them. So like the same thing with business,

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Like I would rather just buy the
company, and like it can just

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be sitting on the shelf than me
having to go against them, or it

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can be the strategy of let me
buy this company and it saves me,

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you know, two years of time
to do a twenty percent of research because

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they've done eighty percent of the research. All I need is to extract this

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amount because it saves us time.
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is getting the most done in a
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the way the sports landscape has changed
dramatically with nil, with decrease in sports

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viewership professionally, with you know,
our NBA superstars aging like they have the

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time window like once the Lebron and
Steph Curry and like the grades that are

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playing right now stop playing, sports
viewership is going to plummet. And I'm

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not hating it's not, you know, but I'm just saying, like I

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know so many people, men and
women that watch NBA just for Lebron James

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or Steph Curry. They don't give
a crap about the local team. They

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don't. It doesn't interest them,
no matter how good or talented or skill.

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These players are people you know,
in general, are just attached to

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watching greatness, and you know,
so fanatics, you know, they own

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a window of like you know,
within this next one to two years,

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we need to be hitting these major
markers to be fully established. So that's

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why you know the strategy of just
you know, buying things up. It

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works for them, and they should
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I just hope they continue to really
just hire the right minds and have a

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good balance between good business but also
I'm doing what's right for the world,

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so right, I mean, I
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there is a really phenomenal point about
like Steph Curry and Lebron James, Like

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those two players have such a global
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I'm wondering if there's really anybody in
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I mean, I think he honest
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Zion I think could have if he
hadn't I don't know, gotten injured every

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single season. Like I just so, I don't even know, I'm not

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even gonna get into that conversation,
but like I don't know, if there's

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anybody in the league right now,
like even Kevin Durant is another example.

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I think the players in the league
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pedestal above the second tier of superstars
that, in my opinion, it gets

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a little bit sketchy when it comes
to like what's going to happen in the

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future with you know, maybe it's
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whatever happens with Panini, like with
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know, viewership in general, Like
are we reaching a peak almost, like

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because we've seen ups and downs in
terms of you know, every year we

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continue to see TV ratings go up, Like, at what point does that

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not happen? Like does that like
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know, I think this year hopefully, I don't know. I mean,

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I'm wondering what the best matchup could
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is it Celtics Lakers? Probably,
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heat, is that also going to
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That's one of the big issues that
I think they're going to have in

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terms of TV ratings for the conference
finals. In the finals, you have

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four teams in well vague, I
guess it's kind of you know, they

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have at least a decent amount of
decent amount of the market, but you

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have Dallas, Vegas, Florida,
and Carolina, like four kind of random

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teams like not like nobody from the
nobody from the original six, which I

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guess the original six maybe not as
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either way, like I think,
you know, like you were saying,

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the TV ratings, I think it's
going to continue to you know, hopefully

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we continue to see a rise and
that hopefully helps the sports card market.

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But I guess it's really going to
come down to, like I think Brodie

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had said earlier, like who really
knows, Like it's still there's still time

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will tell what exactly is uh what
exactly is going to happen, and so

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we'll we'll transition from the quarterbacks of
this year to the big names that are

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going to be coming in the u
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Uh So there these past couple of
weeks, we've seen some pretty quickly

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developing stories. When it comes to
Victor Wembaniana. Uh, he you know,

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gets he's going to be drafted number
one, He's supposed to be this

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next super prospect, kind of similar. You know, Brody, I know

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you're from Chicago, so I'm sure
you're pretty hyped upbout Connor Bardard going to

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going first overall to the Blackhawksard.
Yeah, right, that's pretty that's pretty

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cool as well. So I think
it's interesting this year we're seeing two kind

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of like super prospects coming out of
basketball and hockey. But the you know

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cards coming out now Obviously, you
know Victor Wemanianna, he gets announced that

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he's going to be in the Bowman
inception set, he's going to be on

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the Checklist, and then he gets
announced that he's going to be on the

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Bowman Chrome you set. Now the
cards for Wembangnanna in this inception set.

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Unfortunately, I've seen a couple come
out on social media. They're redemptions,

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which I think makes makes sense because
like the announcement kind of came a little

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bit quickly down the road. So
um, you know, Brody, I'll

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start with you, like what are
kind of your initial thoughts on the this

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set with Caitlyn Clark as well.
I mean we'll get into that, but

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Caitlin Clark, Victor Wembanana, what
are kind of your initial thoughts on these

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you know, these Bowman Chrome You
and then the Bowman Inception sets coming out.

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I think it's cool that they're doing
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that. I like I like the
design, they look cool. Um,

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I just I've seen so many of
them. That's like the one thing.

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I've seen so many pictures of the
redemption of women Yanna, So that's like

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that's like the one concern I have. And for him coming to the league,

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the one thing I have is he
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room a little bit because he's kind
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I don't know. I'm just not
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especially for basketball like internationally, because
I don't really watch. I'm a bigger

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college basketball guy because because I like
the atmosphere of it. Um So yeah,

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I don't know, we'll see I'm
not I'm not really your guy.

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For that. Yah. Um,
So Eric, I'll ask you kind of

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the same question, like what are
some of your you know, these two

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sets are I mean, I think
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I think they're going to be a
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when it comes to college cards.
I think, you know, we have

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like a like Caitlyn Clark. I
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this season. Uh, and she's
just like a superstar basically, and you

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know there's some superstars in the you
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Aces shirt like I was mentioning earlier. So I'm you know, I'm interested

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from your perspective, like what do
you think of these cards and kind of

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uh the you know, just the
the autographs between the two in general.

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is great for women's college basketball players
because with nil social media, how things

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have changed within the last few years. It's become even have more then even

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bigger reach and the demand for you
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players sports cards are is really high. Like it's really high. And I

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know people say those college uniforms well
for women's basketball, that that doesn't I

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don't think that's the case, to
be honest, because people drool over Candice

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Parker cards with her Tennessee uniform or
or maya more or her un you kind

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of uniform or or you know,
or page or you know a fud like

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they they want those cards just as
much or if not more, because of

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the significance and how and how invested
people are and women's college basketball. You

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gotta remember, women's college college basketball
plays on the same timeline as men's college

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basketball, So PHIL is like a
full season w BA. It's it's like

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it's a way shorter period in terms
of how it feels, and you know,

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so it's two different markets. Uh. Like me personally, I would

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love to get a case in court
card in her Iowa Jersey because when I

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think about it, I think about
how great she has been. You know,

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Like for me personally, if you
asked me if I wanted Sabred in

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that school card, which card would
I rather have? An Oregon card or

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um a Liberty card. I would
personally rather the organ card because I remember

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her the greatness that she was doing
a college Like that's more appealing for me,

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And I think that's how it is
for them, for them, the

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followers of women's sports. But um, on the flip side with Victor,

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Um, I'm happy to see him
in a set and everything. Uh,

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international players is kind of they trans
They don't really translate as as well as

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people like to think they do,
you know, like Janni's he's very undappreciative,

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not um American, you know,

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point Blake period. Like we can
go down the list of you know,

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form worn and play players and they're
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Um, you know. And and
I think this is a lot of

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pressure being put on him. Like
I saw a little brief from the draft

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and I'm like, oh wow,
Like he's getting a lot of like not

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lebron as pressure, but it's close. This is it's closest to like the

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Lebron coming out since I've seen.
But I just don't think that's fair for

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him, and I don't think that
no one will will come even close to

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Lebron Lebron's story, So I don't
know. I would me personally if you

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ask me if I was going to
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or Victor, I will buy Caitlin. To be honest with you, Yeah,

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I'm actually I'm I'm in the same
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I said, it was unfortunate this
season that page Buker's got injured like in

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the first Yukon practice. I mean
yeah, and then you know, I

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think the storyline's going into the next
college women's college basketball season. I think

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it's probably going to be the most
anticipated. Like I mean, I guess

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you know there the media I think
has done a better job at covering it.

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So I think maybe we know the
names more, which I think that

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has led to it being more anticipated. I mean, I think, you

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know, you've got LSU with Angel, she is like a superstar in the

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making. I think you could consider
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they have Van Leaves, who is
transferring from from Louisville, who is another

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you know player who it has like
a pretty big size nil like contracted just

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in general, and then you obviously
got Paige Bukers coming back, he got

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Caitlyn Clark. I mean, I'm
hoping that we're you know, I guess

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I'm hoping that maybe we're gonna see
like a each of them get their own

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region, and then in the final
four, maybe there's like matchups between the

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two of them. I mean that
would be I mean, that's like a

405
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,440
dream scenario, I think between those
three teams. But I think even then

406
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,680
this year we're seeing like Leah Boston
go first overall, So that was extremely

407
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,000
exciting. I mean, she's one
of the other names that's coming out of

408
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,000
this set. And then the Bowman
Chrome Youth said as well, So I'm

409
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,519
actually in the same boat as you. Like, if we're between the two,

410
00:26:40,519 --> 00:26:44,039
I would go Caitlyn Clark. You
know, I like Victor Wembannon.

411
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,480
I think you know, his name
always gets, you know, clicks when

412
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,400
you're making content. But h in
my opinion, like, I mean,

413
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,400
we've seen Caitlyn Clark, We've seen
her just go out there and just you

414
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,279
know, I thought I thought she
had a phenomenal, phenomenal season. I

415
00:26:56,279 --> 00:26:59,200
mean, LSU, I think they
maybe had a they obviously had a better

416
00:26:59,319 --> 00:27:02,799
team overall, all, like more
good players, like uh so, yeah,

417
00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:04,200
I mean I'm in the same boat
as you, and I'm brody you.

418
00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:07,720
I think you had a point before. I kind of was going off

419
00:27:07,759 --> 00:27:10,720
there a little bit. No,
I would just I would rather have the

420
00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:14,359
Kitla Clark too, because I mean, I just like the college significant with

421
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,000
the doll even though I'm not an
Iowa fan. I'm an Illinois fan,

422
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,079
so that's like the only problem with
that. But you know, I mean

423
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,319
I remember the I think it was
the twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen Notre Dame

424
00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:26,839
woman's team that I watched when they
hit the buzzer beater. I have a

425
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:33,400
huge family Notre Dame fan and that
was one of the craziest woman's national Tournament

426
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,440
teams I ever watched. It was
awesome. We had a great time watching

427
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,799
that team. Yeah, I would. I would also love to see fanatics

428
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,119
like you know, when I said
they wouldn't be doing new new I hope

429
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:48,200
that they really really do new new
stuff and like something like release a product

430
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,039
at the start of you know,
college basketball season. You know, it

431
00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:55,400
could be mixed the men's and women's
like together, but have something to be

432
00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,440
excited for have something that in live
games people can be incorporating with you know,

433
00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:03,519
with marketing talking about you know and
then you know. So I would

434
00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:08,480
love I would love for that because
I hate all of the off season releases

435
00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:12,880
because it just it's it just doesn't
understand the logistics and business behind it.

436
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:18,720
But as someone who watches sports and
collects cards, it just doesn't make sense,

437
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,000
Like it doesn't. I agree,
And I mean I think the one

438
00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:26,480
thing when they announced the Bowman Chrome
Use set, I was like, they

439
00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:30,119
I wish that they had, like
I think that they need to. I'm

440
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,799
hoping Fanatics maybe does this. I'm
not one hundred percent year if they will,

441
00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:37,359
but like I'm hoping that we can
get like more more sets around significant

442
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,599
times of the year, so like
you know, more like more you know,

443
00:28:41,759 --> 00:28:45,799
whatever the tops chrome basketball or whatever
comes out during the NBA Finals,

444
00:28:45,839 --> 00:28:48,119
Like I think that would be really
cool, or like when they bring in

445
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,359
football, like or if they get
Prism or whatever the whatever the brand ends

446
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,400
up being, like the biggest brand
comes out during the championship or like you

447
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,000
know, the college products or the
first product comes out you know, during

448
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,680
the draft or like during the All
Star game or something like that. I

449
00:29:02,759 --> 00:29:06,440
just think I think that there's it's
kind of twofold there. There are a

450
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:07,279
lot of products, so I mean, I guess it's kind of tough to

451
00:29:07,319 --> 00:29:11,599
maybe schedule it that way. But
I just think that maybe if they've reduced

452
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,480
the amount of products, unfortunately,
that might lead to an increase in the

453
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,599
print run. But I think that
there's maybe there could be more thought put

454
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,720
behind, like when products are coming
out during the year. Yeah, I

455
00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:26,480
think that would be I personally believe
that's something that Fanatics is already is on

456
00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:30,160
there the may points to do because
in order for them, like them to

457
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,559
continue to grow, they have to
do it that way. Like what like

458
00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:40,240
like like it would be so cool
to have like an NBA Final Special Release

459
00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:41,920
pack come out, you know,
even if it's so limited, like but

460
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:47,200
it's live like you literally can you
know, like to capitalize on that for

461
00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:49,920
the newer market because at the end
of the day, people who don't collect

462
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:55,319
cards and or sports fans, it
has to line up when they're watching it

463
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,839
is when they actually opening products or
being very active and buying products, Like

464
00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:03,160
that's the only way to really capitalize
one How can you example, like my

465
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,559
best friend. Like we um,
we went to the casino to watch the

466
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,799
Aces game, the playoff game,
and I surprised him with a Kelsey Plum

467
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,319
card. He was so hype like
like he loved the way she played,

468
00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:18,160
like he loved her like and but
we we watched the game that scene day,

469
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,000
like if I would give it to
him like all season, it'll be

470
00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:23,960
still cool. But it wouldn't he
wouldn't ahead as a much excitement because it

471
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,079
broke backup memory. So when we
look at that card, he'd be like,

472
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,839
yo, I remember me. He
was at the casino spending time.

473
00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:34,319
It all connects, like you know, human emotions to feelings and everything like

474
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:40,240
that, and that's how consumerism is, like you know, it just makes

475
00:30:40,279 --> 00:30:44,200
sure. But Fanatics is gonna be
fine because because they operate, they operate

476
00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:48,039
when their business aspect and people have
to remember like you know, for people

477
00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:51,039
in the hobby, the hobby is
like one hundred percent thing, but Fanatics,

478
00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:56,079
the sports card hobby is probably when
fifteen percent of their whole thing.

479
00:30:56,319 --> 00:31:00,319
So it's going to be just very
interesting. Yeah. Um, you know,

480
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,799
Brody, do you have any like
kind of final thoughts on sort of

481
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,160
these the prospect cards that are coming
out or what what what's kind of exciting

482
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,920
for you? I know you kind
of mentioned some things. What's like exciting

483
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,000
for you? Like the you have
like a player you're excited for, I

484
00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:14,240
mean Connor Bredard, I would imagine
probably you're pretty excited for. Yeah,

485
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,039
I'm excited to see those and all
the Illinois players. We got a couple

486
00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:21,720
going into the draft supposedly, so
I'll be excited to see them leave.

487
00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:26,160
Yeah, probably, yeah, And
I mean you're I how do I wear

488
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:29,880
this nicely? I was a Bruins
fan or I am a Bruins fan,

489
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,240
so I wasn't necessarily following I kind
of was following the Connor Bdard's saga.

490
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,559
But like, as you know,
Blackhawks didn't have the best season, uh

491
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,839
kind of unfortunately traded away of one
of your superstar Patrick Kane unfortunately. So

492
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,680
like for you, like what like
was something was Connor Bardard? Were you

493
00:31:45,759 --> 00:31:49,279
surprised that they got the first pick
or was it something where you were you

494
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,039
doing like seances with like candles and
like like lighting stuff and trying to like

495
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,480
make sure you could get them.
Oh, I thought they raked it.

496
00:31:56,559 --> 00:32:00,160
I didn't think there was any way
on my dad showed me. I'm like,

497
00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:02,599
oh, this is raged. There's
no way they want him to go

498
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,440
to Chicago. They didn't want him
to go to Canada. They want him

499
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,319
to go to Chicago so that they
could rebuild the new Patrick Kane. They

500
00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:13,759
didn't want him go to Vancouver to
Chicago being in the middle of the country.

501
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,799
That's that's why did they rigged it? Guaranteed. I think it's also

502
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,160
interesting a lot of that's what kind
of a lot of people were saying too

503
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,599
about like when Benyonna going to the
spurs um I am in the boat where

504
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:30,119
I'm seventy five twenty five on the
NBA, is potentially there's some a little

505
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,279
bit of rigging going on there.
I mean, you know, yeah,

506
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:36,680
Anthony, this is a conspiracy theory
potentially, but maybe not. But like

507
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,799
when Lebron left when they when he
left for the Heat, three out of

508
00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:44,880
the four years he was gone,
the Calves got the first pick in a

509
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,000
lottery, so I don't understand how
that happens. And then the one year

510
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,920
that they didn't get the first pick
was the Anthony Davis draft and that was

511
00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:54,920
the same year that the Charlotte I
believe it was Charlotte, or was New

512
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,079
Orleans, whichever one it was at
the time. I think it was New

513
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,119
Orleans. They sold the NBA owned
the team, and they sold the team

514
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,200
and then they got the first pick. So, you know, Victor Wembannona

515
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,519
going to maybe one of the teams
that has the best developing of international prospects.

516
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:12,839
I mean, I think it's definitely
a good thing for him. I

517
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,119
mean, you know, he's gonna
have a number of international You got Tony

518
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,200
Parker, you got man who's nobly
I mean, Popovich, He's you know

519
00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:23,599
that that kind of team in general
is just good at developing prospects. So

520
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,640
I think that's that's a good thing. I mean, I don't know,

521
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,119
you know, maybe if Zion had
gone somewhere that you know, I don't

522
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,839
know, had a better development of
prospects, maybe things would have turned out

523
00:33:34,839 --> 00:33:37,599
a little bit differently unfortunately, but
you know, it is what it is.

524
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,839
But yeah, um, so,
I mean, well we'll kind of

525
00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:44,119
wrap this topic up a little bit. So you know, Erica, what

526
00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:46,839
um do you have, Like who
are you most excited for kind of in

527
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:52,720
these in these process in these new
Bowman Chrome use sets, like is Caitlin

528
00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:54,200
Clark the player that you're kind of
most excited for. Were that? Were

529
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,880
there any other names that you kind
of had your eye on in these u

530
00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:02,440
in these sets that are coming out. Okay, I'm personally I'm gonna anti

531
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:08,039
breaking type with this phase right now. So I haven't really put much thought

532
00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:12,480
into it, but from what I've
seen, I really like, I would

533
00:34:12,519 --> 00:34:15,679
really love to have a nice Kitlin
Clark card and a Lah Boston card.

534
00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:20,039
So I saw the Leah Boston.
I don't know if it was a patch

535
00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:22,719
card. It was a really nice
card I saw the first. But I

536
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:28,239
would really like to have those two
players because they've had outstanding college careers and

537
00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:31,400
it's been honor and wonderful to watch
them play it. So, yeah,

538
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,280
those are the two for me.
And then yeah, same same kind of

539
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,440
question for you, Bertie or you
know, you said you had a couple

540
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,239
of or you had a couple of
Illinois players that were in the draft.

541
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,800
Who were some of the players that
maybe you're excited for that are coming out

542
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,880
of this draft. Yeah, I
actually looked at the checklist. Yeah,

543
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,679
I actually just kind of been seeing
who people have pulled. I don't know

544
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,480
if they're in the checklists or not. But Coleman Hawkins and Terry Shannon Junior

545
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:57,159
not sure if they're in the checklists
or not. But I'll actually after we

546
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,840
get off this, I'll probably go
and look at the checklist autograph. Awesome.

547
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,800
Awesome. Yeah. And then and
then this week some of the other

548
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,920
kind of news that uh sort of
came out was there was a new triple

549
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:15,599
logo man coming out with Luca Lebron
uh Steph Curry. We obviously remember last

550
00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:19,639
year the crazy hype around that Lebron
triple logo man. Um, So you

551
00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:21,719
know, okay, it's you,
Erica. First. Is this is this

552
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,159
a car that kind of gets you
excited or is it sort of just like

553
00:35:23,199 --> 00:35:28,639
another you know, marketing piece for
Panini at this point? Um, it

554
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,880
does. It does not get me
excited at all. Actually, I just

555
00:35:31,159 --> 00:35:35,639
I just kind of just look at
it as like, Okay, um,

556
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,920
definitely a marketing push. This is
the type of card or that it's only

557
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:45,440
really hyped up and popular because other
people listen to other people, right,

558
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,079
you know, like if X and
I do theyn't like it esthetically, then

559
00:35:49,159 --> 00:35:52,199
most people don't like I don't know, So that's a note for me.

560
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:57,719
I was really I was really disappointed
to see Luca on this card. But

561
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,159
you know already, you know,
you know how that cookie crumbles. But

562
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,960
I would like to see another player
in his place on that card. Just

563
00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:07,800
keep it, keep it a championship
winning all time fifty great card if you

564
00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:10,679
you know, put your honest one
here instead of like right, yeah,

565
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,800
yeah, um, you know,
I love Luca. You know I'm right

566
00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:19,920
from it all, but I just
just a little premature right now, like

567
00:36:20,519 --> 00:36:22,800
you know, so right makes sense, Brodie'll kick to you kind of same

568
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,000
question here is this something you know? I feel like these are, to

569
00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:29,079
be honest, I feel like these
types of cards are sort of out of

570
00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:30,280
all of our price ranges. But
like, is this a card that you're

571
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:35,159
excited for or um, you know, what are your thoughts on the card?

572
00:36:35,199 --> 00:36:37,320
I guess well, I mean I
see a little broad in the middle,

573
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,639
but I don't see him on the
left of the right, so that

574
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:45,000
I was kind of just like yeah, whatever, Like I just was like,

575
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:46,559
man, it was it would have
a bit coolth lebron with done all

576
00:36:46,599 --> 00:36:51,719
three again because that card is awesome. I love that card last year when

577
00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:55,440
you know, kind of golden and
Drake we're doing live streams awesome. Yeah,

578
00:36:55,639 --> 00:36:59,920
ye all seriousness. I mean I
was just kind of joking with you

579
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,400
because all the hype for the Triple
Ago Man last year. But it's cool.

580
00:37:04,599 --> 00:37:07,639
But I mean I like the seventy
fifth anniversary, but I mean I'd

581
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,599
rather have signatures of all three of
the amount of cards too, clearly,

582
00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:15,800
honest. Yeah. Yeah, I
mean I think the seventy fifth anniversary logo

583
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,239
is pretty cool. Like so,
I mean, Eric, I'll ask you,

584
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,800
do you think that like cards with
this seventy fifth anniversary logo are going

585
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,320
to be desirable? Like do you
think it matters or do you think it's

586
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,000
like something where it's just you know, it's gonna be another in whatever,

587
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:31,559
ten fifteen years. It's just we're
not going to look back and be like,

588
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:35,360
all those seventy fifth anniversary cards like
those were the ones that you really

589
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,320
want to get. I don't.
I don't think that's going to be the

590
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:45,159
case to be. No, no, no, yeah, I'm kind of

591
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,920
in the same boat. I mean
they are really they are cool logos,

592
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,159
but at the same time, it's
like, ah, like you know,

593
00:37:50,559 --> 00:37:52,320
maybe it's just another marketing, marketing
kind of thing for them. I guess

594
00:37:52,679 --> 00:37:57,199
yeah, And they could have done
better these companies. You know, it's

595
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,360
these companies really lack in terms of
just brainstorm and good ideas, like you

596
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:06,119
could they could have done so much
other creative thing to make really cool cards.

597
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,880
Like Brody said, like the lebron
car from last year, that was

598
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:13,880
a cool card because it just broke
down like each that that he made of

599
00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:17,039
a greatness, like you know,
uh, that was great, Like they

600
00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:21,840
could have done some other really cool
stuff like that. But I don't know,

601
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,000
right, it's just crazy. Yeah, And Brodie, I mean I'll

602
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,119
ask you kind of the similar question
here. Do you think do you think

603
00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:34,039
cards with this seventy fifth anniversary logo
are are going to be you know,

604
00:38:34,639 --> 00:38:37,159
important in the grand scheme of things
or do you think it's going to be

605
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,360
just kind of like another card like
in the in the in the grand scheme

606
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:44,199
of things? Probably just another card. I don't Yeah, I don't.

607
00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:50,639
I don't see anything really that's like
too exciting. Yeah. I'm seeing a

608
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,159
lot of comments too, like let's
see a lot of people, you know,

609
00:38:53,960 --> 00:39:00,480
Collector's dream more hype marketing. Uh, Ziggy said Logoman's overrated. They

610
00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:05,360
are overrated. Yeah, well overproduced. Logoman's are overproduced. I think the

611
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,719
one thing that I sort of have
an issue with with Logo Man is that,

612
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:14,079
like I feel like it used to
be only in like National Treasures you

613
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:15,880
would get Logo Man, and then
it turned into or you'd only get it

614
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,800
in Flawless, or you'd only get
it in a certain amount of sets.

615
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,039
But now it's like almost every set
has like a one of one Logo Man,

616
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:27,960
and I almost think it's I almost
think that it's taken away sort of

617
00:39:28,039 --> 00:39:31,960
some of the mystique of it,
I guess, And I mean I would

618
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:37,519
be interested. I would imagine these
probably are game worn. I think I'm

619
00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:39,000
not one hundred percent sure about that, but like, I mean, that's

620
00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:44,800
one thing that I hope really fanatics
can step in and really take back sort

621
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:50,800
of the memorabilia in cards. Like
you know, they obviously have such a

622
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,119
huge network of players that are you
know it either signed to them, and

623
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,360
then they also are kind of the
the exclusive partner for a lot of these

624
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,880
companies. So like we'll see sort
of what happens down the road. I

625
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,599
mean, for you, Erica,
Like where do you think fanatics can come

626
00:40:05,679 --> 00:40:10,239
in and maybe make these cards a
little bit more important or or better,

627
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,280
I guess, because like, yes, it is good, good marketing,

628
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,719
but like at the same time,
it's like it's the same concept that they

629
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,400
came out with last year, Like
at what point. The thing I also

630
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,719
get nervous about is like when do
they just come out with another Lebron triple

631
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,199
logo? Man, Like I'm nervous
that they would do something like that because

632
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:28,280
of how much money they made.
So like, for you, Erica,

633
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,000
what's something that you're hoping that sort
of fanatically maybe fix when it comes to

634
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:37,159
these types of memorabilia cards, Uh, more creativity And it's not that hard

635
00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:40,559
to be more creative, you know. And it's it's like I don't.

636
00:40:42,559 --> 00:40:45,920
I have tons of ideas, but
I just but I don't know, like

637
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:50,360
be more, be more creative,
Like I just don't. I just don't

638
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,920
understand. I just like even like
this cart right here, like like why

639
00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:57,320
why is Luca on this cart?
Like what is the reason for it?

640
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,559
Like like like I would love to
know with the even like from from who

641
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,920
you know, I don't they can't
give me a good put like put like

642
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:08,280
KD I mean or I mean anyway
I feel like any more any veteran that's

643
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,960
maybe in them better conversation, because
like I mean, over the years,

644
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,400
we've seen triple cards that like one
of the players you've never heard of.

645
00:41:16,519 --> 00:41:19,599
I don't think Luca is going to
be in that conversation, but I do

646
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,719
think that like the the to make
a card that should be as prestigious,

647
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,440
I think as they want this one. I feel like a K. D

648
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:30,000
or Um. I mean, I
don't know, Brodie for you, for

649
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:31,639
you, like if you were to
replace Luca on this card, like what

650
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:36,119
what player? Uh? What player
would you choose? I mean, or

651
00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:38,199
even just like what if you would
make a triple card like this, Like

652
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,800
who were the players that you would
include? You could add anyone like Durant,

653
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,760
Joannese. It just needs to be
somebody that's like want a title.

654
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,559
It just Luca just seems out of
place. I feel like it's not that

655
00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:54,000
he's like not really good or won't
do great things. It's just he's out

656
00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:59,559
of place, Like he's what two
of the greatest ever into like the guys

657
00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:02,360
that are like the one percent of
the one percent of the one percent of

658
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,519
all time, and he's just kind
of chilling on the right side of this

659
00:42:06,639 --> 00:42:09,239
card, He's yeah, put you
on its on there, right, yeah.

660
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:14,880
And also yeah, with the significance
of the seventy five is this also

661
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,320
ties with the seventy five lists,
right, So why couldn't they have done

662
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:22,440
something with the active players who are
active do something like that. It's not

663
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:25,800
that hard to be creative, like
or at least the three players on this

664
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,039
card should have been off that list
like regards to how you feel about the

665
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:32,320
list or not. But that makes
more sense, and that's things that will

666
00:42:32,679 --> 00:42:37,400
transcend, you know, later down
because I remember clearly when the fifty list

667
00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:39,440
came out. I was younger,
I remember remember all the height the people

668
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,800
being mad about shacking on on the
list is then the third But that's something

669
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,079
that I always remember and carry through. I do feel as though that the

670
00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:50,679
seventy five lists will, you know, kind of lingers similar like that.

671
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,280
But I don't know, it's just
it's not hard to be creative. Guys

672
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:58,639
like fanatics like you know whoever these
people make Panini right, right. Yeah.

673
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:00,800
We've actually had some good comments some
cards that I want to point out.

674
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:06,800
So like Zach said that he would
rather have a Bo Jackson football baseball

675
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,559
card. I mean that bo Jackson's
one of my favorite athletes. Like his

676
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,679
eighty six rookie card is one of
my favorite cards. And then you know

677
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,039
you got the iconic one where he's
holding the bat. That's another iconic card.

678
00:43:15,519 --> 00:43:20,559
Um let's see who else we had. I think somebody said, oh,

679
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,920
then Janie like we were saying,
somebody said, uh, White Sox

680
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:28,760
fan said, uh, Yokich,
and then Zach also said, uh Tony

681
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,159
Cook from the Bowl, that would
be a cool one. I mean,

682
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:37,679
it's unfortunate, you know. I
think the one thing that fanatics and panini

683
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,280
need to look out for in the
near future is that like Lebron isn't m

684
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,840
I think he's he's signed the exclusive
to upper decks, so when he retires,

685
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,119
he's not going to be in products, similar to what happened with Michael

686
00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:53,280
Jordan. Like Michael Jordan has and
like Wayne Gretzky for hockey, these players

687
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:59,159
aren't in new sets because they I
think it's that they aren't part of the

688
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,039
Basketball Players Association, or it's it's
something along those lines. I know they

689
00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:07,039
signed the exclusive with our pretext,
so like once once Lebron isn't in the

690
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:09,599
league, that's that's also why there
aren't any Lebron autos, not any of

691
00:44:09,639 --> 00:44:13,079
these products. So like, for
example, this card wouldn't be able to

692
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:15,119
be like a Lebron Triple Auto like
which that would be, I mean,

693
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:22,159
phenomenal, but like unfortunately, that's
kind of the reason why I think they're

694
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,519
maybe trying to cash in on Lebron
cards right now with doing everything they can

695
00:44:25,639 --> 00:44:30,440
to really get those get those products. Uh, let's see we got Also,

696
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:36,639
yeah, somebody said Luca has fallen. Kids are when kids are saying

697
00:44:36,679 --> 00:44:37,440
he's out of place. I don't, I don't. I think he might

698
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:42,280
be referring to you, Brody.
Unfortunately you're not. Yeah, yeah,

699
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:47,440
I remember when I first met Brody
actually at the twenty UM twenty nineteen national.

700
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:51,320
I think you gave me one of
the wristbands that you were giving out,

701
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,000
and you know, it's it's it's
kind of crazy to see that you've,

702
00:44:53,039 --> 00:44:57,360
uh you have grown up pretty significantly
over the past few years, which

703
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,639
really cool to see. Um Triple
Sorry to block you there, Brodie,

704
00:45:01,679 --> 00:45:07,079
but Triple Logo teammates would have been
cool. For example, Celtics Pierce Allen.

705
00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:10,840
I mean that would have been I
mean, that's a phenomenal idea in

706
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:15,360
my opinion, but obviously as a
Celtics fan, that that would be that'd

707
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,239
be crazy. So yeah, Brody, go ahead. If we were doing

708
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,280
like, like what if we wanted
to make the seventy five impactful, Like

709
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,199
what if we did like Lebron is
on the right for like the modern day

710
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:30,000
well is like early day NBA,
I don't know, like Bill Russell,

711
00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:32,039
like somebody like that, somebody on
those lines, and then in the middle

712
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:37,000
obviously can't do Jordan, but right, somebody like Larry Bird or somebody like

713
00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:42,760
that, Like, do somebody from
each era each twenty five years era and

714
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,280
it kind of makes it like maybe
their greatest of each era something like that,

715
00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:50,199
because that could make seventy five feel
impactful. Yeah, that would be

716
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,639
really cool. Um do do you
guys know if these are game used or

717
00:45:54,679 --> 00:45:58,400
not? I don't remember. I
think they should be, right or maybe

718
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,840
are they not, because that would
I mean if they're not that kind of

719
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,159
ruins the point of the cards like
that. I know the last year's Lebron

720
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,840
card was all the logomans from when
he played on those other teams, But

721
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,719
um, I mean, is that
something you know, Eric, I'll start

722
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:14,679
with you there is do do the
like how much of a difference do you

723
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,119
think it makes for memorabilia to be
game war and versus you know, yeah

724
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:22,239
body like Dick Sporting Goods or whatever? Huge and capital letters? Yeah,

725
00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:28,360
huge difference day and night. Like
it just it amazes me that they put

726
00:46:28,599 --> 00:46:31,440
you know, not not game warned
by the actual player on these cards and

727
00:46:31,559 --> 00:46:36,039
this think that we were going to
be a okay with that, Like,

728
00:46:36,519 --> 00:46:40,880
no, stop disrespecting consumers. Stop
disrespecting us by putting bs in products like

729
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,400
this like carry it. I don't
like, doesn't doesn't make any sense.

730
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,840
Well does because companies don't care about
us, But I don't know, I

731
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:52,199
don't like it, right. Uh
yeah, I'll ask you kind of the

732
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,239
same same question boarding imagine your answer
is probably be very similar. But you

733
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,119
know, um what do you what
do you think of the you know,

734
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,920
game warren versus uh, the Dicks, Sporting goods jerseys. Oh yeah,

735
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:06,920
obviously game warrant it's super important.
But I was watching Ken Golden Show and

736
00:47:07,639 --> 00:47:12,159
he had something on there that I
think right away was like a huge example

737
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,599
for me to use game war and
stuff. He wanted to Carl Malone's I

738
00:47:16,599 --> 00:47:21,239
don't know if it was like his
house or items storage or something, but

739
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:27,639
he had all of the Dreams teams
jerseys and shoes that they wore. They

740
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,119
never washed them, all their home
uniforms, and they're actually on its site

741
00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:35,360
right now up for up. They
never washed them. There's blood stains everything.

742
00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:38,199
So I just think it's awesome.
Why would you want to go buy

743
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:43,199
that something like that, it Dicks
Sporting Goods when you could have that like

744
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,880
put just put them in the card
please, right right? Yeah? And

745
00:47:47,079 --> 00:47:51,119
I mean I think it's definitely you
know, I feel like that's a fine

746
00:47:51,199 --> 00:47:55,599
line when you're buying, when you're
buying these used jerseys and you're making them

747
00:47:55,679 --> 00:48:01,000
into memorabilia pieces. Like I think
I saw a m I saw the shirt

748
00:48:01,199 --> 00:48:07,559
that Lebron wore, the pregame shirt
that Lebron wore when he broke the scoring

749
00:48:07,639 --> 00:48:09,719
record. I think it was Heritage
Auctions, I believe, or maybe it

750
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:14,920
was Hunt Auctions. I forget the
exact auction house, but they the shirts

751
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,639
sold for one hundred and fifty thousand
dollars, and in my opinion, I

752
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:21,000
was just like, why would you
know, why would sports card companies not

753
00:48:21,119 --> 00:48:23,079
come in and buy something like that
and then put that in cards, because

754
00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:28,239
they they one hundred percent could easily
make more than one hundred and fifty thousand

755
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,159
dollars if they were to buy something
like that. So Eric, I'll i'll

756
00:48:30,199 --> 00:48:36,119
ask you this question. Do you
think that sports card companies should buy kind

757
00:48:36,159 --> 00:48:39,360
of iconic memorabilia pieces like that and
tournament in the cards or do you think

758
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:44,159
that like that should be kind of
kept intact or whoever bought it, like

759
00:48:44,599 --> 00:48:46,760
uh, and it shouldn't be something
that is made into cards. I guess

760
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:52,639
that's a great question. I lean
more towards keeping it intact because that's you

761
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,920
know, that's a museum. That's
a museum pieces. But I think maybe

762
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,320
a small percentage you can go into
cards. I just don't think all of

763
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:04,440
them, I don't think, but
uh yeah, I won't. I have

764
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:07,519
no problem with you know, with
those shoe string cards or like the tongue

765
00:49:07,559 --> 00:49:10,920
cards from shoes like those are cool. Those are nice cards. Or the

766
00:49:12,039 --> 00:49:15,519
glove like I have a football glove
card. I think that card is so

767
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:20,320
cool, like you know, uh, so yeah, I think that they

768
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,599
should make more of those type of
products, um for sure, but make

769
00:49:22,599 --> 00:49:27,159
sure they have really good designs with
it and just try to keep the quality

770
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,480
up as well. Like it sucks. It sucks full in a card to

771
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,719
get in the card and and then
it's all dinged up, like even fresh,

772
00:49:35,039 --> 00:49:37,920
like it's nothing worse, well it's
stuff worse than it, and like,

773
00:49:37,079 --> 00:49:40,840
but it really sucks. It makes
you feel like why I'm why am

774
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:45,639
I even trying to enjoy this hobby
when it's I get crap? Right,

775
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:50,320
that's my own w about that.
Yeah, unfortunately you are. We are

776
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,360
running into issues like that. I
mean, I think in another good comment,

777
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,199
three Jerry West silhouettes on one card
would be super cool. I mean

778
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,840
there's literally so many, I don't
know, there's I think there's so many

779
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,159
different combinations they really could go for. So, I mean, I'll ask

780
00:50:01,159 --> 00:50:05,119
you actually brought it the same question. Do you think that would you like

781
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,280
to see them make cards out of
iconic pieces of memorabilia or do you think

782
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:13,800
it's almost like something where they should
they shouldn't be They can buy the game,

783
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,119
use stuff, but then they shouldn't
make you know, they shouldn't like

784
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:20,960
iconic like another Sorry. Another example
of a jersey that recently sold was in

785
00:50:21,039 --> 00:50:25,320
the playoffs during Alan Irison's rookie year. I think it was in a similar

786
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,079
price range. I think it was
in the one fifty price range where the

787
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:34,679
jersey that Alan Irison actually wore they
photo matched the whole uniform, and that

788
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,840
was another one that's sold. Like
so, I'll ask you the same similar

789
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,239
question. Do you think that they
should keep these memorabilia pieces together or do

790
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:45,440
you would you like to see more
maybe in a sports card product. I

791
00:50:45,519 --> 00:50:47,840
would say keep them together. But
I think there's really a way they can

792
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:52,760
do this, and they can make
it a chase like thing. If they

793
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:59,840
can put redemptions, special redemptions and
products like Flawless and evidence for the whole

794
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:05,039
item, I think it would be
awesome. The chase would be incredible.

795
00:51:05,159 --> 00:51:09,400
I think it would be the biggest
chase possible because you'd I think it would

796
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:14,000
be really cool. I don't know
if you if they bought I don't know

797
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:19,519
Carl Moon's Dream Team uniform, I'll
just go at that and there was a

798
00:51:19,639 --> 00:51:24,119
redemption for it and you've got it, Oh my goodness, that it would

799
00:51:24,119 --> 00:51:28,920
be awesome. Or if they bought
the whole dream if they bought everybody's and

800
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,599
you didn't know who we were getting. It could be Jordan, or it

801
00:51:30,639 --> 00:51:35,639
could be John Stockton. I mean
that would be pretty cool. You could

802
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,480
keep the whole memorability attacked, or
it could be a huge chase for it.

803
00:51:37,639 --> 00:51:42,559
Ken Golden Drake could be going live. Everybody could be chasing for it.

804
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,679
Kind of be a cool experience all
around. Yeah, almost they could.

805
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,840
They could almost do like maybe make
like a super oversized card with like

806
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,199
the with the full jersey, like
similar how they do like the jersey displays,

807
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,000
but like make it almost like a
card. Like I think that would

808
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:59,440
be kind of an interesting concept,
like because they already do oversized cards in

809
00:51:59,519 --> 00:52:01,960
some box. But I think I'm, like I said, I'm on the

810
00:52:02,039 --> 00:52:07,119
fence between like I think I think
these iconic pieces should be kept whole.

811
00:52:07,199 --> 00:52:10,239
But also like I'm also thinking from
a from the sports card perspective, like

812
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:15,400
they easily could they easily could make
products with some of these crazy jerseys and

813
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,360
market the products with the jerseys in
them. That's kind of the other thing

814
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,280
that I feel, like, Um, if they were to try something new,

815
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:22,840
that might be a good idea,
But I think your your idea with

816
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,280
like a redemption card or some sort
of because I mean even if they don't,

817
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,559
because it would I would think that
they if they did that, if

818
00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:31,480
they made like an actual design of
the card, but it's like a redemption

819
00:52:31,519 --> 00:52:36,800
almost like how they do Um.
I think it's tops uh Alan and Ginter.

820
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,000
Maybe where they do the like rip
cards where it's like you can rip

821
00:52:39,039 --> 00:52:42,360
it and there might be a card
on the inside. I think that would

822
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,000
be kind of cool. Um.
So you know all, I think there

823
00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:49,760
are so many different things, I
mean, Erica. So I'll i'll you

824
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,639
know, well, we'll go with
you and then we'll sort of kind of

825
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,719
we're coming up on the end of
the show here. So if you had

826
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:59,840
any ideas, uh for fanatics or
Panini, like what would you want to

827
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,719
see like in a in a in
a product or that and I'm coming product

828
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:07,840
I suppose uh um. Oh,
I'm hesitant to say because I have a

829
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:16,519
lot of ideas. Uh Um,
I'm not okay, Uh we we might,

830
00:53:16,599 --> 00:53:20,360
we might. You know, I've
always joked that we should be we

831
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:25,599
should be charging for these ideas,
like eventually hopefully I'm too. So I'm

832
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:30,639
uh you know, I'll probably be
working on my own company or something today

833
00:53:30,679 --> 00:53:32,480
A degree. Yeah, yeah,
um, so I don't know, you

834
00:53:32,519 --> 00:53:35,239
know what, you know what I'll
do. Well, let me let me

835
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,480
switch the question a little bit.
UM. Something that we talked about on

836
00:53:37,519 --> 00:53:43,719
a previous show, Uh, was
the the new Beckett CEO UM and the

837
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,519
old Beckett CEO. Really they weren't. The old Beckett CEO wasn't necessarily a

838
00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:50,519
collector. UM. So I think
we asked a question that that was very

839
00:53:50,559 --> 00:53:53,119
interesting that I'm interested to get your
guys's perspective. Uh, do you think

840
00:53:53,199 --> 00:53:58,199
that somebody that is like a CEO
or like some sort of C level executive

841
00:53:58,519 --> 00:54:02,199
do you think that they have to
collect sports cards for it to be a

842
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,920
successful Hi Erica, I'll start with
you on that question. No, I

843
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,880
don't think they have to collect sports
cards, but I think that they have

844
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:15,440
to have a true interest in learning
and getting to understand the shoes of a

845
00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:20,440
true collector or just the aspects of
it. They have to really just have

846
00:54:20,519 --> 00:54:22,400
an interested in and put the work
into it. UM, because as long

847
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,599
as you just need you just need
an understanding. If you get an understanding

848
00:54:25,679 --> 00:54:30,760
of it, then you can kind
of mix it the right amount of gumboat

849
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:35,639
mix that you need to make it
work for everybody involved. Um, yeah,

850
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,239
so I don't think they need to
be a collector perspective, but and

851
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:42,400
also too honestly, like the way
Fanatics is probably going to go, from

852
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,679
my point of view, it's less
collector based anyway. It's less of what

853
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,599
the hobby is now. It's not
what the hobby represents now, it's which

854
00:54:49,679 --> 00:54:52,960
direction they're going in. It's it's
a totally they're on a totally different highway.

855
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:58,400
We're on ninety five south right now
they're going ninety five north right.

856
00:54:58,519 --> 00:55:00,400
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So
Brodie, Okay, I'll ask you kind

857
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:06,480
of similar question, like do you
think CEOs of these companies need to be

858
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,760
sports card collectors or collectors of anything, because that was that was kind of

859
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,440
the thing that I think we came
to consensus on on the other episode,

860
00:55:12,519 --> 00:55:15,280
was that they don't have to necessarily
be into sports cards, but they have

861
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,480
to sort of understand the nature of
collecting. So, like, from your

862
00:55:17,519 --> 00:55:22,119
perspective, is that's something that you
think is super important or do you think

863
00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:24,639
it's something where somebody who's a you
know, at that level should sort of

864
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:29,480
have a grasp on just the marketing
and all that kind of stuff. In

865
00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:35,480
general, they really need to be
knowledgeable and what collectors do and why why

866
00:55:35,679 --> 00:55:38,239
people do what they do. I
think I don't know. This is a

867
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,679
great question for me. I kind
of blanked out. I don't know.

868
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,760
Yeah, I don't know. I
never I have my brain froze. That's

869
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,519
all good, Yeah, I think. I mean, I think what you

870
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:52,679
said there is kind of what we
sort of were saying on the other episode

871
00:55:52,679 --> 00:55:57,440
with you know, the collecting concept. People they have to understand that more

872
00:55:57,559 --> 00:56:01,360
maybe than necessarily be into sports cards. I think the pool honestly of people

873
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:07,800
who are could be executive level employees
and then are also into sports cards is

874
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,400
probably not super large. If I
had to guess, Um, I'm sure

875
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,400
like a lot of us you know
that are making content or that are kind

876
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,679
of working on stuff in the industry. I think advisor level stuff I think

877
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,519
would be really great. I mean, I think that makes a lot of

878
00:56:20,559 --> 00:56:22,239
sense. Um. So, I
actually think we're gonna come to sort of

879
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:27,079
the end of the show here.
So Brody, I'll kick it to you

880
00:56:27,199 --> 00:56:30,320
first. Do you have any thoughts
too, or anything you want to share

881
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,960
with the audience to kind of wrap
up the show here? Just follow me

882
00:56:34,079 --> 00:56:37,800
on Twitter at brody kk on Instagram
at Brody the Kid won. Yeah,

883
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:42,079
thanks guys for watching the show,
and thank you guys absolutely. Erica,

884
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,719
same same question for you. Yes, oh, Um, I appreciate everyone.

885
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,519
I'm happy to be here. Um, if you happen to be at

886
00:56:49,599 --> 00:56:52,400
home and you don't have any scheduled
things to watch today, one in three

887
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:57,400
pm ABC, w NBA games or
will be on, so tune in,

888
00:56:57,639 --> 00:57:01,559
you know. Uh, that's what
I will say, tune in and enjoy.

889
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,159
Absolutely. It's also good to see, you know, w NBA games

890
00:57:06,199 --> 00:57:09,079
finally being put on TV. I
think that's that's really exciting. I mean,

891
00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:13,079
I think, uh, it's it's
it's something where you know, the

892
00:57:13,159 --> 00:57:16,119
bubble. I think was really kind
of the first time we saw w NBA

893
00:57:16,199 --> 00:57:20,320
games really kind of promoted on ESPN. I mean, I think that was

894
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,280
really great. Most of those games
were kind of all all on ESPN,

895
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:27,320
which was really great and every day
Yeah, right, exactly exactly. It

896
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,840
was amazing, right. Yeah.
And so for me, um, we're

897
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,800
all we all work with Hobby News
Daily. I'm gonna give them a shout

898
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,360
out as well. Um, Erica
Brody, you know, phenomenal writers doing

899
00:57:38,639 --> 00:57:43,079
uh the monthly weekly articles, stuff
like that I've been working kind of on

900
00:57:43,159 --> 00:57:45,920
the back end on some of the
blog stuff that's been, you know,

901
00:57:45,039 --> 00:57:47,920
been really great. We've been making
some great updates to the website. UM,

902
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,440
so I want to give you,
know, Danny obviously a huge shout

903
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,239
out, John, huge shout out. Um They're all we also kind of

904
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,440
it's sort of similar circles where we
all are sort of on this show and

905
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,679
then we sort of some of us
work for hobby News Daily, which is

906
00:57:59,679 --> 00:58:04,000
really right. I really want to
appreciate everybody for leaving comments. Thank you

907
00:58:04,119 --> 00:58:07,239
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Make sure you check us out. I

908
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:12,159
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909
00:58:12,199 --> 00:58:14,440
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910
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911
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912
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