Hello, and welcome to the show. I think we're good to go now.
We had a Danny shean just the losses Internet, but it looks like
it might be back, which is a good thing. Yes, it looks
like we're in business. So thank you all for jumping over from the other
show we had earlier. And so there's two streams this week. And we
have attorney Danny shean on who has done so many amazing things throughout his career
and I'm really excited that he is involved in trying to have some UAP transparency,
which I think is very important these days. And we have an UAP
Disclosure Act of sorts that was proposed by Chuck Schumer that is in jeopardy and
that's what we're here to talk about. Hello Danny, Greetings Martin, and
you hear me? Okay, yeah, there you are, Pew your internet
crashed. Boy, I'm glad you're back. Just a few seconds. That's
where we're a couple of minutes later here. Yeah, oh is that right?
Well? Thank you so so glad to have you on. We met
at DC in Line at the on July twenty sixth. We were there to
see David Grush. You had a much better seat than I did. But
at least I got in the door. I was glad to be there.
Fascinating. That whole day was fascinating. So let's let's talk about, first
of all, if you would, what the Schumer Act more or less is,
what involved in it, and then what happened last I think it was
last right around Thanksgiving Day or the day it seems like everything. Yeah,
so let's talk about what that is and what happened. Sure, okay,
Well, what the Schumer Bill is is it's a proposed amendment, a supplement
actually to the National Defense Authorization Act. The National Defense Authorization Act is an
omnibus statute that has passed every single year, just like around December twenty first,
right before the members of Congress go home for the Christmas in New Year's
holidays, ending the term of the House of Representatives, and so that they
bundle all of the different kind of defense spending all the way from the five
hundred dollars coffee pots in the officers clubs to the nuclear powered aircraft carriers and
submarines in the eighteen super hornets that they want to build more up. And
so what we had done is we had crafted a statue, a sixty four
page supplement to go into the thousand page National Defense Authorization Act that was going
to continue the process that has been begun over the last couple of years to
take more and more aggressive positions demanding that the elements inside the American government and
inside American aerospace industry come forward with the information that they have about UFOs and
about the pilots or sources of the UFOs and provide that information to Congress,
because they have been not only withholding all that information from Congress for seventy five
years, but they've been lying to Congress while they've been lying to the American
people about their knowledge of this, and they have been engaged in an aggressive
program that has been now proven that we've gotten documents through the Freedom of Information
Act that have revealed the fact that the Central Intelligence Agency and the Defense Department
has had for fifty years or more an aggressive campaign of destroying the lives of
people who try to report any of these contacts with the UFOs, not only
inside the government, inside the military, but even private civilians. And so
that we have been moving steadily the group of us that are is called the
UFO community to try to compel the government of the United States, in our
democracy, to reveal this information, beginning to reveal it to Congress at least,
just to at least reveal the information to our elected representatives, and then
to have the elected representatives in turn reveal as much of this to our American
people as they can without jeopardizing individual means of you know, doing spying on
opponents and in the means by which they do their work, and revealing nuclear
secret about how to build an atomic bond. You know that we're not asking
for that. What we're saying is, look, you've got to tell the
Congress, and the Congress has to tell the American people what it is that's
going on here and stop lying to us. Now. I became involved in
it most recently when Lou Alessondo reached out to me. Lou Alessando was the
director of a top secret Pentagon Defense Department study about the UFO phenomenon that was
instigated by Senator Reid Harry Reid when he was the majority leader of the Senate.
He demanded that twenty million dollars twenty two million dollars, actually twenty two
million dollars was appropriated to pay for this secret study that was going to be
done in an updating of the information about the UFOs. But the bottom line
is is that lou kept running into roadblocks everywhere that not only was he being
denied the access to the information that he needed to study the UFO phenomena,
but he discovered that extraordinarily high ranking people inside our government were being denied access
to the same information, including the head of intelligence for the Joint Chiefs of
Staff. There were Secretaries of Defents that weren't briefed in. There were presidents
that were not briefed in about this issue. And he wrote a letter to
a Secretary of State, Mattics, complaining about this, and his letter was
intercepted and they refused to present it to the Secretary of Defense, and so
he resigned in protest over this, and he brought with him these three videos
that he brought to the New York Times with the support of Christopher Mellon,
who was the Assistant Secretary of Defense, the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for
Intelligence for the United States Defense Department under both President Bill Clinton and w.
Bush, and the two of them brought this information to the New York Times
and the New York Times Board of editors agreed to publish it, and they
did on the evening of December sixteenth of twenty seventeen, and then in the
morning paper of December seventeenth, on the front page of the Sunday New York
Times, they published this article revealing the fact that there was this top secret
program that was going on inside the Pentagon to investigate the UFO phenomenon, while
the while the Pentagon officials were lying to the public to say, we don't
know anything about UFOs. They're not real. You know, We've already looked
into this. There's nothing going on here, there's nothing to see here,
just move on. And it turns out that they were lying again in the
New York Times basically called him out on that. And since that time,
December seventeenth of twenty seventeen, for the last five years, you know that
we've been engaged in the UFO community, pushing forward to try to get more
and more and more information out about this. And this bill is, in
a sense, the culmination of that entire process that's been going on since twenty
seventeen. We got the majority leader of the Senate, Schumer Chuck Schumert to
introduce this bill is completely bipartisan. You've got not only Marco Rubio from Florida,
the Republican deputy head of the Senate Intelligence Committee. You've got Mike Brown
from South Dakota. You've got this bill that's been introduced by Senator Schumer with
the co sponsorship from Rubio, who is the Republican lead Republican in the Senate
Intelligence Committee, and has got support from virtually everybody except for these four leaders.
The head of the House Intelligence Committee, this Mike Turner, and the
head of the Republican head in the House of the Armed Services Committee, Mike
Rodgers, and the new Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson. You know,
they've joined together in trying to block this, and it turns out that,
you know, they're all directly in the pay of the major aerospace industries.
The largest contributor to to Mike Rogers at the Armed Services is Lockheed Martin,
and Lockheed Martin is one of the companies that's in possession of some of
this UFO technology and they don't want to give it up. Uh and uh,
Mike Turner uh is the is the congressman from the district that has has
that Wright Patterson Air Force Base, which is the base to which the UFO
that crashed in Roswell was taken. You know, So that we we've got
the two key spots where the where the uh the bad guys in this whole
thing that are trying to keep secret their access to this so they can make
it into weapons, you know. Uh, it's their home home base.
Uh. And they these are the two guys that are leading the charge to
to stop this bill, to make them have to cough this information up and
give it to the intelligence committees of the Congress. And these guys are betraying
their entire obligation as congressmen, not only to the country, but to their
responsibilities for chairing these two committees of the Virtually all of the members of their
committees support this bill in both the House and the Senate. And yet they're
digging in and in doing the bidding for these private, for profit corporations that
are paying for their campaigns. I mean, this is a crass demonstration of
the bribing of these congress people, you know, by the aerospace industry to
be able to keep this technology. That's what's happening right here now. You
know, it's to me. You know, I could go on and on,
you know about what I think about this, but I've always thought,
you know, the campaign contributions, the lobby system is important, but when
it's used for greed and money and power, it's it's a corruption in my
opinion. So I guess I would like to say this, Do you think
it's possible that there's some other type of pressure that they're giving besides financial?
Do you think that they could be like, we cannot let this secret out.
This is our you know, bread and butter or whatever it is that
these these major private corporations that have these Do you think there's other pressure they're
giving them or do you think it's just financial? Well, it's it's financial
and political, and that what they've demonstrated in the past, and we've proven
it, is that they have destroyed the political careers and destroyed the professional careers
in government of anybody who doesn't do their bidding. I mean, that's been
going on now for seventy five years. And if one wants to see the
proof of this, you just go to Richard Dolan's two volumes of his book
called the UFOs and the National Security State and they have right there. They
have the documents that show the internal documents or the Central Intelligence Agency and the
elements inside the Defense Department have been consciously destroying the political careers of people who
defy them. You know, So this is more than just financial support.
This is threats that they make to people, to their families. You know,
this is a criminal syndicate that is functioning here to try to capture and
keep secret this information. Now, the people who are the primary people moving
to try to get some public revelation of this information come from within the Defense
Department. They're they're honest, patriotic military people and intelligence people who are fed
up with this type of criminal self dealing that these aerospace industries are engaged in.
And what they're doing is they're bribing. Not only they're they're hiring the
people offering them hundreds of thousands of dollars as consultants to come over and help
support their ability to keep this secret. You know, they've they've they've hired
they've hired guys like Jay Stratton, They've hired guys like Travis, They've hired
people like and others to come in and just take hundreds of thousands of dollars
a year to be on their team to keep this secret. You know,
this is this is a display of the type of corruption that has plagued our
American democratic system, you know, and it's been confounded by the United States
Supreme Court passing the the the case the Citizens United that allows these corporations to
pay tens of millions of dollars to the chair people of these committees to bribe
them into protecting their financial interests. I mean, so, I mean,
this isn't this isn't a program about the corruption of government right now. But
what it's doing is is coming to is coming to rest on this extraordinarily important
issue that over eighty percent of the people in the country, you know,
believe that we and the UFOs are real, they're extraterrestrial in origin. They
believe our government has gotten their hands on, you know, one or more
of these craft and that they're trying to back engineer the technology to make a
weapons system. You know. I mean, it's it's the old Sufi saying
is that when a pickpocket meets a saint, all you can see are his
pockets, you know, And that's what's going on here. These people are
corrupting our entire political system. Uh. And now they've they've made their move
to capture and keep secret probably the most important single piece of information that our
entire human family could have, of the fact that we are not alone,
that there is an entire extraterrestrial civilization that surrounds us, that their their people
are coming and going from our planet. Uh. And these people in the
aerospace industry and some certain element deep within the deep state of our American government
are trying to establish confidential relations with these people, with these people, much
to the detriment of our entire human family. You know, I mean,
could you couldn't ask for a more outrageous demonstration of the perfidy of these people,
you know, like now Mike Turner and Mike Rogers. I mean that
that these people need to be moved. You know that they're they're being paid.
You know, they're they're basically having cash delivered to them in brown paper
bags across their desk in the Senate, in the House, you know,
to to protect the financial interests of the stockholders of these private corporations. So
that I mean that we've got we've got to come to grips with this fundamental
problem in this particular bill, which has got virtually uniform support from all the
Republicans and all the Democrats in the House and in the Senate who are not
on the payroll of these private aerospace corporations, are all in favor of turning
over the information to the to the at least to the Senate Intelligence Committee and
House Intelligence committees. You know. And here's the guy, Mike Turner,
who chairs the House Intelligence Committee, who's going to benefit from this. His
whole committee is going to benefit from getting access to this information, and he
completely betraying his entire responsibility to function as the chair of this committee, you
know, by taking private money from these corporations. You know. So this
is people should be I won't use the term anymore up in arms, because
we're not calling people to get up in arms, you know, we're not
asking people to get in the streets with torches and pitchforks, you know,
on these guys. But you know, this has to be stopped. I
mean, if we have to throw down on these people in the context of
this particular statue that virtually ninety nine percent of everybody in the House and Senate
wants to pass, you know, and what they're getting ready to do,
is they're getting ready to abuse their power by in effect threatening the other members
of their committees, you know, by threatening to remove them from the committee,
to take the staff away from them. You know, this is the
kind of threats that they're exercising against the members of the House and Senate are
elected representatives to protect their financier, their financiers, these private financiers. And
you can bet that Mike Turner and Mike Rodgers are just waiting to get permanently
and officially employed by these aerospace corporations, you know, to hire them for
you know, tens of hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to come over
and be lobbyists for them. You know, that's what's going on here.
I mean, this is this is a total outrage that's going on. Yeah.
So yeah, I want to talk about we're back basically back to square
one if this doesn't if this is not part of the Defense Authorization Act,
right, I mean, we're square one. We've we've made we've made so
many advances since since December of twenty seventeen. What this is is this is
the the offensive move that has been made by an alliance between the traditional UFO
community and the people inside the Defense Department and the intelligence community who want to
have this information revealed to the people. So we have a coalition that is
not going to go away. And the fact of the matter is, these
these guys that Mike Turner and Mike Rogers and John Mike Johnson, you know,
they are they are destroying. They're destroying the credibility of our entire democratic
institutions here where you have the overwhelming majority of people in our country wanting to
get this information conveyed into the Congress, you know, to take it out
of the exclusive hands of these private corporations and put it into the hands of
our elected representatives so they can decide what's to be done about this. You
know. Uh. And in these guys, these guys are to be run
out of town. I agree. I think we should do that. We'll
do that ourselves, you know. I have a couple of questions that came
in. One of them is a long time supporter of the show that helps
me with a lot of information. Palmer wanted me to ask you this question
here, what certainty percentage wise would you put on some of the of this
U I p UFO technology being representative of non human intelligence, and then he
had another question after that. Oh sure, no, No, all of
this technology this is connected to the UFOs is from a non human intelligence.
I mean that's clearly so you know they're not they're not, you know,
capturing UFOs that they made themselves and then trying to keep a secret. You
know, this this is you know, it's extraterrestrial in what it presents itself,
you know, as potentially extra dimensional because in my opinion, based on
you know, some forty five years of experience in this field, is that
it presents itself as appearing to bex through dimensional because of the means by which
these vehicles travel. You know, that they travel in a realm that bends,
warps space time, you know, and that accounts for their being able
to move at these extraordinary rates of speed, you know, without having any
friction, and it also enables them to turn these ninety degree turns going twenty
thousand months an hour, you know, and survive you know, five thousand
G forces you know. So that this is a technology that is so far
beyond anything that any of our human civilizations have developed to this point. And
that's why these private industries are so rapidly devoted to trying to get control of
this because they want to be able to make tens of billions of dollars for
the next five hundred years by monopolizing this technology in the same way that the
oil corporations have an appolized petroleum. You know that that's exactly what's going on.
Yeah, you know, the old saying here, you know, all
the way back from the Nixon era is fall of the money. You know,
it's basically that, uh here as well. It's worse than that.
It's worse because what this really is, there's an element inside the United States
intelligence community and inside the US military that is devoted to trying to establish full
spectrum dominance over the planet. We need to understand that that they are functioning
on behalf of the major corporations in the United States, that they're funding their
campaigns, and what they're doing is they're deploying our military, for example,
into the Middle East to occupy the Middle Eastern oil fields so that we can
maintain a private set of contracts that have been negotiated by our government on behalf
of the major oil corporations, you know, And that's what they're therefore,
and they've they've they've spent tens of thousands of lives of people, not only
in the Middle East, but American lives to secure control over the petroleum so
that they can have a monopoly control over the source of energy on the planet.
And they see the UFO phenomenon as a threat as an alternative source of
energy that can be provided to the world to help us deal with climate change,
to help us deal with poverty, to help us deal with a major
agricultural services for the people. You know that they see this as a threat
to their their monopoly power on the planet, and that's why they're willing to
go to such extremes of threatening the lives of people, destroying their political careers,
destroying their family lives, you know, by having people branded as insane
who simply try to you know, present the information to legit them and authorities
about an encounter that they've had with such a UFO, and they send in
secret military people to threaten them in their families. You know, I mean,
this is this is a criminal syndicate. This is a federal criminal racketeering
organization that we're dealing with here. It's a syndicate that's made up of these
aerospace industries and some of the politicians whom they've bribed, you know, and
you're looking right straight at them right now with Mike Turner and Mike Rodgers and
now Johnson and Mitch McConnell is doing their bidding right now. Let's say that
this thing did get included in it passed. What would it look like for
some of these corporations if they had to fess up and let me just ask
you this too, and how could we trust that they would totally fess up
with what they have? Well that this what we have to do is we
have to bring to bear the instrumentalities of our government to extract this information from
them. That's why the subpoena power that is in this statute is so important.
That this statute specifically provides from Congress the subpoena power to this nine person
board is to be established by this statute gives them subpoena power where they can
issue a subpoena to they What they do is they apply to the Attorney General
of the Justice Department to issue a subpoena and to go to federal court and
to get the federal District Court in the United States to issue a subpoena,
a judicial subpoena to these people, mandating that they turn over this information or
they will be held in contempt of court, a criminal contempt of court.
You know, they can be imprisoned if they refuse to cooperate with our government,
you know. Uh. Yeah, But when it comes to corporations,
they have protections, don't they like, because it's a corporation not an individual.
Well no, But the fact of the matter is, the subpoenas can
be issued to the private uh, the private management of the corporation. They
can subpoena the the CEOs, they can subpoena the chief operating officers that they
can subpoena them and mandate that they exercise their authority to provide this information to
the Congress. And if they don't, they can be put in prison,
you know. And and that's what they're worried about. Here. This this
this statute has teeth in it. It has subpoena power. It has the
power to exercise eminent domain to to if necessary, say military truths to them,
to their their company and seese if they've got the crash debris or an
intact UFO uh there that this can be seized by our United States military.
Now let me ask you this, playing devil's advocate for them, could they
say, oh, let's get into gear and let's bury this and let's get
this, you know, away from us, somehow disjointed from our company and
by starting a new LLC or some other corporation or something like that, and
then putting all the information that they have on Let's just say they have a
crash uap, their reverse engineering it and then they could just push it all
over to this new founded company and not be able to you wouldn't be able
to get access to it because you were unaware of it. Is that a
possibility of something like that? Can they I've spent fifty years chasing down these
kind of bad guys. They've tried, Okay, there's a there's a book
on this all. You know, they follow a particular a plan an mo
where they try to hide stuff. And you know, the Justice Department is
very adept at this. The whole Trump administration, for example, lying,
cheating, having double sets of books. People know how to pursue these people,
you know, down into their warrants. And that's what we're that's that's
what we're doing. The New Paradigm Institute actually exists for the purpose of seeing
to it that this statute, once it's passed, is actually enforced. You
know, we're there, we're an entree to the citizens groups around the country
to mobilize them to make the Justice Department, uh, make the courts,
uh, make the President's office and everybody do their job. That's what we're
doing here. That our government is in a is in a serious uh shape
right now because such a growing percentage of the population distrust them that they don't
believe that they're doing their job. You know, we've we've set up a
democracy and elected these people to do do the work for the people, and
they've been completely co opted by corporations now, I mean, and almost everybody
knows that. And to have them exercising that kind of control over our democratic
government an issue that is as important as this to our people that everybody wants
to know if in fact there's an extraterrestrial civilization. Everybody wants to know if
they're coming to our planet. Everybody wants to know if we have an opportunity
to establish peaceful diplomatic relations with an entire extraterrestrial civilization that has the potential for
assisting us, and they're not here to help us, you know, to
save us from ourselves. But the fact of the matter is they may well
know the answers to a lot of important questions that our human family has been
struggling with for decades, in for centuries to try to figure out. In
these people, out of their own personal greed and avarice, are trying to
conceal this from the American public in the world. A lot of times you
see in these movies, you know, these Sie movies, the dystopian future
that is run by corporations, and the corporations are controlling the masses, and
that's kind of you know, when I hear things like this, it kind
of like saying, yeah, you know, in some ways, we are
you know, we are we head in that way because they have all the
power of what they're doing right here. This particular situation is a good example
of that, where they can manipulate, you know, people in power in
our government to change something on their behalf, which I think is totally terrible.
Well, the reason that the science fiction movies are projecting at because they
can see that that's what's happening. They can see you if you project into
the future, what the dynamics are that you can absolutely establish beyond any reasonable
doubt right now, you project that along the same algorithm into the future,
and that's exactly what you get. You get this complete corporate autocracy, you
know, running the world, you know, and that we've got to stop
this thing, you know, and this this provides it. You know,
we had not intended to have this be a showdown, you know, and
in which we were trying to, you know, take on the fundamental issue
of the corruption of our American political system through the corporations, you know.
But if they want to throw down on this thing, you know that we
we have probably one of the biggest completely bipartisan coalitions in the history of the
country around this UFO thing that we've got, as I say, ninety nine
percent the members of both political parties wanting to get this bill passed. And
if we end up discovering that this this corruption has infected our government so seriously
that they're going to try to conceal this secret from us and potentially threaten the
other members of Congress and threaten their families in order to protect their their personal
greed. You know, then this may well be the battleground where where a
lot of these things are going to get resolved, because we aren't going to
stop. I mean, we're going to We're going to mobilize the people.
We're going to share information with the people. We're going to help organize the
people. We're going to focus on the congressional districts where these corporations have so
corrupted the elected representative that they're betraying their their obligations to their people, you
know, in betraying their obligations even to their positions in Congress. You know,
you have the head of the Intelligence Committee taking a position that the Intelligence
Committee should be denied access to this information. I mean, that's that's a
complete defiance of his responsibilities. Is the chair of the committee? I have
a there's a long let me just post this question. There's a lot of
people that I think I may want to call in. I'm not really sure.
This is a long time chat person here. He wants to know is
it wrong for Congress to try to compel the government to disclose when it's distinct
it's distinctly possible that the ETS are forcing the government to cover it up on
pain of some terrible punishment to humanity. I don't know what you think about
that question, but what do you well, you know, no, I
mean, uh, let me say this, it's totally unnecessary for the UFO
people to try to, you know, make our corporations be corrupt. You
know, they're they're completely capable of doing this completely on their own. And
everybody knows that. You know, it doesn't require some esoteric theory as to
the fact that the UFO people are behind this. You know, these corporations
have done this. I mean, you know, you've got you've got the
oil corporations polluting the entire planet, threatening to destroy the entire life generating capacity
of our planet, and yet they still won't stop, you know, and
you try, you try to bring this to the attention of the political representatives,
and the oil corporations start spending you know, literally billions of dollars in
campaign contributions to the key people to stop them from you know, interfering with
the profit seeking of the oil corporations. Uh. So that this is not
this is not unique to this particular issue. But it's just that this issue
is so profoundly important to so many people, and very importantly it is it
is completely nonpartisan. You know that we have we have organized a coalition of
people that is completely bipartisan. It's under the point of being non partisan.
Uh, to get this done, it's like trying to you know, prevent
cancer, you know, or something. Yeah, and these people are blocking
us in there. In there, they've they've turned these guys, Mike Turner
and Mike Rogers and Mike Johnson and Miss McConnell have turned them to the point
where they're betraying their country. They're betraying the Constitution, you know, they're
they're depriving the Congress of the United States of this information that that we need
our representatives to have in order to govern. You know, they're just they're
ruining the possibility of developing a logical, rational, diplomatic relationship with an entire
extraterrestrial civilization. So for their for their own private gain, is what they're
doing. Do you think there's uh, they're getting a lot of pushback,
these four people, you know, the three mics in the Mitch. Yes,
do you think they're getting a lot of pushback? Yeah, they are.
They are getting a lot of pushback. They're getting push back. Do
you hear about that? Yeah, Well, the bottom line is they're getting
pushedback from the people who actually possess a lot of the information. Uh,
And they're being kept silent under threats of revoking their national skecurity clearances or punishing
them with criminal charges if they if they come public with what they've got.
But I can tell you the fact of the matter is, you know that.
You know, I've spent years, like, for example, uncovering the
fact that the Iran Contra, the Iran Contra Off the Shelf Enterprise was criminally
smuggling cocaine into the United States and providing weapons to the Contras in complete defiance
of Congress. You know, we were able to find that out, and
we were able to get that information revealed. I've never agreed to accept a
private a national security clearance. I'm perfectly capable of getting this information, and
I have every intention of making it public if they will not cooperate. You
know, we are offering them a compromise in this bill to set up a
process whereby they can have a carefully controlled disclosure of this information to the American
people and to the world. You know, we're providing safeguards so that they
can protect the sources by means of which they gained information. We're perfectly prepared
to protect the genuine national security of the United States, you know, but
they're what they're doing is they're running a risk, just like happened in the
Pentagon Papers case, which I was one of the main attorneys for the New
York Times in that case, you know, in the Whitney or Seymour,
the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, who was representing
the Nixon administration. They absolutely refused to allow us to publish anything that was
in all forty seven volumes of those Pentagon papers. And they refuse to point
out to us what if anything in those papers. They were insisting, if
it was made public, would irrevocably damage the national security of the United States.
They refused to tell us what it is they were talking about. So
what we did is we got all forty seven volumes published by the New York
Times, and we now have the New York Times prepared to publish information that
we bring to them. You know, from deep inside these structures, we
can bring the information to the New York Times. We can bring the information
to sixty minutes, we can bring the information to the Internet, and we
can make it public. And if they don't want to have a sound and
responsible methodology by means of which the information can be vetted carefully and the important
information that they can convince us ought to be kept secret, if they refuse
to do that, then they're going to pay the consequences for it, you
know. And I can assure them that I will do everything in my power
to make sure they do, you know. And I'm going to do everything
I do make sure that these people, these criminals, you know, go
to jail for what they're doing. We're offering them amnesty, we've offered in
the other parts of the legislation. We've offered amnesty to them. We've offered
to to allow them to come forward and provide the information to Congress and have
Congress exercise a responsible judgment about how much of this information should be released to
the public and pursue it to what kind of a schedule, you know.
But they're still refusing to do it. They won't even allow that to be
done. So, I mean, you know that they better they better be
careful about what they're doing here. Because you know, I've spent fifty years
in doing this. I've been involved in publishing the Pentagon papers. I've been
involved in exposing the Office Shelf Enterprise of the Iran Contra Committee people. You
know, we've exposed the fact that the Kermagee Nuclear Corporation was providing ninety eight
percent bomb grade plutonium to Israel and to Iran at the same time. We've
done this down through the fifty years. They should realize that this is not
a hollow threat that I'm making here. You know, this is this is
an absolute promise that we will do this if they won't cooperate. Wow.
Well, I'm really glad you're on our side. This the one thing you
mentioned a couple of things about what can be secret what can be let out.
Now, I truly think now may be wrong. You can tell me
if I am. But I really think they're you're going to use the umbrella
of national security a lot in this situation to be able to keep things from
the public. I understand part of that, certainly when it comes down to,
you know, things that would affect national security. But do you think
that's what they're going to try to protect everything with? Well, but you'll
you'll notice that you'll, if you'll forgive me for station, you'll notice that
you don't know what you're talking about, that you can't even give an example
of what you're talking about. And they don't either. They say, oh,
well, you know, there's something awful could happen here. You could
really I say, like, what, like, what are we talking about
here? You know? And they go, well, you know, I
can't tell you because it's so threatening and so terrible, and they are lying
seabags. They've lied openly about this over and over again. They lied about
it in the Pentagon papers, they lied about it in ir on contract.
I mean, Oliver North got right up in front of the Congress said absolutely,
I lied to you, you know. I mean this was a you
know, I couldn't tell you. And so I mean that we've established a
national security state here since the National Security Act of nineteen forty seven, in
which they feel completely authorized to lie to Congress and to lie to the world,
you know. And it's turned out that over and over and over again,
it's on behalf of corruption. And what they've done is they have devoted
themselves. And it says so if people go and look at the nineteen ninety
two United States Defense Department Policy Planning Guidance document. They was prepared by Dick
Cheney, you know, in as the Secretary of Defense for George Bush Senior.
Uh and you know Paul Wolfowitz and uh and uh uh there was a
Scooter Libby was in on it. Doug Fiffe was in on it. There's
particular people I know exactly who they are. They they drafted a proposal for
maintaining the size of their military budget even though the Soviet Union had officially agreed
to step out of the Cold War and step back and dissolve the Soviet Union.
And they were so frightened about losing their government contracts for military equipment that
they designed a program for it and openly stated in the classified document that their
objective was to maintain the continued privileged access to the strategic raw materials that were
needed by our American industry. You know, I mean they said it.
You know, it's a document, so we know what it is that they're
up to here, uh, and that you know that we do not want
to pull down the pillars of the state, you know, in order to
get them off their pedestal. But if they insist upon this, we will
in fact pull them down, you know, uh, And we don't want
to have to do that. We're doing everything that we can reasonably do to
to try to establish a reasonable, controlled disclosure of this information. But you
know that if they if they don't leave us any choice at all, and
it's going to come to a point where it's going to be too late for
them when they come back and say, please, please stop. You know,
you're you're really probing into things where you know that something terrible is going
to happen. Well, that something terrible that they think is going to happen
is they're going to lose their power. They're going to lose their monopoly power
over the sources of energy, you know, over the control of Congress.
You know, if this information comes out and that they can either do this
in a in a gradual, in responsible way, or it be you know,
unfortunate for them. What can I do as an American or anyone that's
listening to the show right now, as an American? What what can we
do to help this process to make sure that this thing doesn't get killed or
try to attempt to stop it from getting killed. It's very simple it's very
simple. UH. You can. You can go on to the New Paradigm
Institute website and you can you can find the information that tells you exactly who
your two United States Senators are, exactly who your congressional representative is. UH,
and also find on that website the names of the people that are in
charge of these special committees. You know. And what you do is you
send out every form of communication that you can. You telephone them, you
send them emails, you send you send them letters. You know, you
go to their offices and tell them that you want the Schumer Amendment, which
is the UFO basically Controlled Disclosure Act. You want this thing passed, and
you want it passed intact. You know the way that it is now along
with the subpoena power, along with the authority that it has to to exercise
eminent domain to retrieve any type of technology that's been taken by these aerospace industries
and trying to privatize it. You know that these that this has to be
left intact. And that's just just contact both of your senators and your congressional
representative from your district and tell them that you insist that they maintain the Schumer
Act in the National Defense Authorization Act. You know, it's it's a simple
it's a simple proposition. What I'm really saying is that you have to actually
be a citizen, yes, a stop being just a spectator, you know,
standing back watching wondering what's going to happen here, you know, get
on the telephones, you know, send out the emails, and just swamp
these guys with the demand that they passed the past the Schumer Amendment period and
what type of we're under a deadline here is this is timely right, We're
talking this this Moncember twenty first, December twenty first, you know, they're
going to vote on this, you know, in that you know, so
we we've got here, you know, twenty twenty five days or so,
you know, within which we've got to be able to push back against Mike
Turner and Mike Rodgers and Michael Johnson and Mitch McConnell specifically, these four people,
you know, who are on the take from the aerospace industry, and
we've got to we've got to push back against them. And what we have
to do is we have to instigate a revolt on the part of the people
that are in the Senate and House Conference Committee, and a revolt on the
part of the people, of the majority of the people that are members of
the House Intelligence Committee, in the House Armed Services Committee, revolt against their
leadership. You know that these leaders that are there are the ones that have
been targeted by the aerospace industry to bribe them, you know, And so
that we have to have an insurrection, a constitutional insurrection against this, this
corrupt leadership, and it's manifesting itself most especially in the House of Representatives right
now. But everybody knows that, everybody knows that the House of Representatives are
in total disarray right now. They can't even they can't even legitimately pick a
Speaker of the House. You know. They've got this guy, Mike Johnson,
who's a I mean, look at everybody, just a study who Michael
Johnson is. He's he's a complete fundamentalist moron, you know. And there
he is in charge of this in charge of the House of Representatives, you
know, and he's using that power right now to block the American people from
being able to find out that we're in possession of a number of UFOs and
that we're secretly this deep state is deeply involved in trying to back engineer this
technology to make a weapons system out of it, to establish full spectrum dominance
over the planet. You know, And it's our opinion that there's only a
minority of people in our country who agree with that. You know, most
of them are in the aerospace industry. Now, when you say something like
this, do you actually have any evidence is that they are actually trying to
back engineer for weaponry or is this typically what the Defense Department would do?
I think it is because the atom bomb, they split the atom, and
first thing they think of as how to kill people. So, but I
mean, is this speculation or do you have some type of evidence that there
might be a weapon? No, it's perfectly clear because the the actual effort
to deal with this issue was inside the Advanced Weapons Special Access Program. I
mean, that's where they're hiding it, you know. So it's all for
all for the attempt to develop an advanced weapons system. That's that's what they're
doing. It's a function of the national security state, you know, that
is you know, we we've got we've got an annual military budget that is
exceeds that of the other top ten nations in the world. Combined, you
know, and and and they still keep trying to buffalo over everybody into thinking
that this is for defense purposes, you know. And yet you know,
we're we're you know, over in the over in the Ukraine, you know
where you're we're sending billions of dollars of military equipment to bomb the crap out
of the Gaza Strip. Now, you know, we're we're invading the Middle
Eastern oil fields. We've got military troops that we sent to Afghanistan, We've
sent them to you know, to We've you know, supported military dictators all
through South America, you know, that have been torturing you know, their
people, you know, I mean, the time has come that we've got
to come to grips with what's going on here, uh in that that these
people are now threatening to keep secret the fact that there's an extraterrestrial civilization surrounding
us in and open to us participating in an entire galactic civilization, you know,
in there trying they're so priva. I have some you know island in
the middle of Pacific, you know. Nope, So yeah, okay,
you're Internet, Yes, I'm back, but I'm back. You're you know,
really the people have to really decide whether they're ready to go to the
mats, you know, to get this information. Uh and and you know
that I think they are. And I'm going to do my very best,
based on fifty years of working in this area, to to educate the American
people, to let them know exactly what this bill is offering, to do
educate the people as to what the whistleblowers are saying, you know, and
also to exercise whatever access I have to these potential whistleblowers to offer them a
pro bono legal representation to have them come forward and provide the information to the
United States Senate Intelligence Committee. You know, that's where the impetus is coming
from, is coming out of the Senate Intelligence Committee with Senator Rubio and Senator
Warner and other people that are in that that committee saying this is outrageous that
the Senate Intelligence Committee doesn't have this information in order to make policy decisions for
our country. You know. It's it's an absolute total constitutional crime that is
being perpetrated here and we and we as citizens have to stand up for the
constitution and protect ourselves. Yeah, I'm going to bring up something right here.
I know you have I'm sure you have seen this. This came out.
Oops, let's see. Okay, I didn't set up this computer to
do it, but I'm sure you Let's see if it works. Hang on
just a second here, Okay, I don't know if that's going to work
or not. Okay, I'll work on this, slave. But this article
came out from the Daily Whep you there, yep. I don't know if
you can hear me, Daniel Danny. This article came out from the Daily
Mail. I'm not sure if you saw it here it is okay, it's
actually showing on the screen, that's yeah, So I know again, you
know, unfortunately they can't name any you know, people, which is unfortunate,
and I know that's what a lot of people are complaining about. You
know, we don't have any of the names. How can we be so
sure and all that. But anyway, I think that this, the timing
of this thing coming out is kind of interesting, when this whole situation is
going on and this just happened to come out, you know, at the
same time. Yeah, well, Josh, you know, I've given a
long interview to Josh Boswell, you know, just the other day, and
we're all working together constitutionally and lawfully to try to bring this information to the
American public. You know. And as I say that we are going to
stop, I mean we're going to keep rolling this information out and we're going
to become more and more intense. There's going to be more and more details
provided, and we're eventually going to get to the point where we are going
to be naming the names of these people. You know. I mean that
we're trying to act responsibly and entirely constitutionally. You know, that we need
to make it clear to the American citizens that we are the good guys.
We are the people that support the American constitution. We are the people that
support getting information to our elected representatives that there is this criminal syndicate that is
on the other side of this. And I'm not trying to get people,
you know, revved up to the point where they're going to hate them or
you know, egg them out of their offices and throw them in the street.
You know, I'm just saying that what we have to rise up and
mobilize all of our affirmative support for getting this stuff passed and make sure that
our government is working for us, you know, or we're going to start
replacing these representatives. That's what we're going to have to do. Now,
I've just got permission from the radio station that i can go another twenty two
minutes or is twenty three minutes something like that or twenty minutes, and which
i'd like to do, if you're okay with that. And I wondered if
you'd be willing to take a couple of phone calls from people I'd like.
I'd like, Yeah, So if you're going to call in, the number
is eight five five four seven two five four eight three, and please make
it a question about what Danny is talking about tonight, and not you know,
about anything like a sighting or anything like that has to be related to
what we're talking about. And so Chanel is standing by and can take your
call. And that number again, it's up on the screen eight five five
four seven two five four eight three. Haven't been able to look at chat
too much, so let me ask you this, Danny, is there any
publications out there right now that is actually putting out there? I don't care
if it's online or in print. The fact that these people in question,
the three Mics and the Mitchell are all Mitch are all. Uh, you
know, have these funds coming to them for campaign contributions? Is it out
there? Yeah? You get you there, there's the American Almanac of Politics.
You see where is it? Let me get let me show you a
copy of this. It's never too far away for me. Here it is
right here. See the things called the American the Almanac of American Politics.
Okay. And you can get a copy of it, you can, uh,
you can pull it up on the internet. Uh. And what it
does is that it covers every single person who is is a member of Congress.
Uh, and it tells who their primary funders are. I mean,
they're unabashed about it, you know. I mean that for example, with
with Mike Mike Rogers, that Lockey Martin is there overwhelming his overwhelming financier,
you know. And uh and his district is right down next to the Redstone
Rocket Missile Range, you know, where where they're they're trying to develop a
you know, a a technology based on the UFO technology too, to design
missiles that that go you know, so fast, that that the Soviet Union
cannot mount any kind of a defense against them. You know, for what
for what purpose? I mean, for what purpose? This is you know,
at the same time the administration is you know, they're they're actually militarily
supporting like trench warfare going on in the along the eastern boundary of the Ukraine.
I mean, it looks like World War One. I mean they've got
you know, mine fields up and barbed wire up and stuff. I mean,
how ridiculous is this getting to be here? You know, the American
people have to have to stand up and take our government back from these people.
You know, this is this is ridiculous. So I'm saying that that's
you go to the Almanac of American Politics and you'll find out who their major
funders are. You'll find out how much was spent on their their last election,
you know. And some of these some of these guys, they they
win their election in these red districts by you know, sixty five to sixty
five to seventy percent, and yet they still have budgets of your like,
you know, six or eight million dollars they're taking in contributions to pay for
their elections, you know, in their their win their elections by thirty to
forty points. You know, it's just it's just the bribery, is what's
going on. We got a couple of calls right now, we have line
one. We have William calling from Florida. William, Oops, what did
I do with Let's see there we go, William. Welcome to the show.
William, can you hear us? Okay, Chanel, I'm not hearing
William. Oh well, I'm not sure if that's going to work or not.
William, can you hear us? So? How about now? Okay?
Chanelle is working behind the scenes feverishly to try to get this to work.
Oh well, I guess we'll wait to see if we hear We have
a couple of callers. William, when you're there, just speak out.
This may be they were working earlier live radio. What can you do?
Right? All right, we're not hearing anything, so I'm going to drop
the call for right now. Unless we start hearing something. All right,
well, we may try it later. We'll see how it goes. And
Chanell, hello, William are you there? William? Okay, Chanelle,
it's not going to work. I guess, sorry about that again. I
apologize to the listener. And let's drop this out. And so we've got
about fifteen minutes, so you know the things that you're saying that. Okay.
You know, there's a there's really nothing that anyone can do about this.
You can hear me, right, I can hear you? Yeah,
okay, wow, okay, so this is just you and me. Yeah,
can hear us? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, okay. Uh the
producer saying she can't hear or see me, So I'm not sure what that's
that's about, but you can, right, yes, I can. Okay,
So Chanelle, if you can hear us. We're not hearing the phone
line unless I hear someone, now, okay, all right, I'm gonna
drop the phone out and I apologize everyone. I apologize to the people that
tried to call in, and we'll be uh, they'll be working on that
at kg R A Radio try to fix that. So can anyone? Is
there anything someone can do from outside the US, and they really can't,
right. Well, one of the things that we're doing at the New Paradigm
Institute, you know, which is based in Washington, d C. You
know, we have we have offices right on Capitol Hill. I mean,
we are the only civilian group that is authorized to have offices inside the federal
enclave, you know, on Capitol Hill. So I mean we are we
are perfectly situated. You know, I spent twenty years there in Washington,
d C. You know, I was the General Council of the United States
Jesuit Order in their National Social Ministry office that dealt with public policy issues there.
Uh. And so that we have been given permission to be on Capitol
Hill to be able to provide information to the Intelligence Committees and to the Armed
Services Committees, and to the the House Oversight Committee and others to enable them
to maintain this type of a nonpartisan, bipartisan support for this bill. That
because we think, we think this is an extraordinarily important opportunity to try to
get past some of this extraordinary tribalism that's going on here. You know,
of every single issue that comes up having to have a Republican position in a
Democratic position, the red team against the blue team. Yeah, this completely
dysfunctional. What we're saying is, look at this issue is so nonpartisan and
so bipartisan that we have been trying to present an opportunity to our political parties
and to our government to come back together again to support this. You know,
as a President Nixon said in a slightly different context at the UN he
said, you know that the most important thing that could possibly bring all of
our people together is to realize that there's an extraterrestrial civilization here, you know,
and that we are human who are all human beings on this planet.
You know, we all live on a planet that is a rare planet that
is able to just state life, and that for that reason, it's attracted
a lot of attention inside the galaxy and we need to preserve it. In
fact of the matter is in a substantial plurality of the instances where people say
that they've actually had any direct person to person contact with the occupants of the
UFO vehicles that there are two things that they keep saying over and over again.
Number One, you've got to get rid of your nuclear weapons programs,
that they're threatening the entire destruction of your planet and to poison the life giving
capacities of your planet. And secondly, you've got to stop polluting your planet
with petroleum. You know that you're polluting your planet and contaminating it, you
know, and you're going to ruin the entire climactic system of your planet.
You know. These are two things that they say over and over and over
again. People keep saying, why aren't they down here helping us, Why
don't they Why don't they give us an alternative source of energy? You know,
what they're saying is that you know that they're trying to help without intervening
in our in our our whole evolution here. You know. Now, I
don't want to go wildly speculating, and I have never wildly speculated about what
all their motives are or why they don't reveal themselves more directly, or why
don't they, you know, give us direct access to some technology that would
provide clean energy for our planet. You know, I don't I don't know
what the answers of those questions are, but I do know that if we're
going to get the answer to these questions, we have to have our elected
representatives put into possession of the information about them, you know, and that
is being is being squirreled away by these private corporations in relationship to some weird
deep state you know operation that's going on here that was created apparently in nineteen
forty seven, right after roswell by President Truman. That he apparently appointed a
group of people made up of American business people and bankers and some military officials
and intelligence officials to the point where they where they have basically captured the governing
power of our country, you know, with regard to this important issue,
and you can bet other issues as well. And so what we're proposing is
that this opportunity of the people who are so interested in trying to find out
the answer to one of the most important and most profound questions that face our
entire human family as a species, that this ought to mobilize us and motivate
us to try to cure this problem of corporate corruption that we have on our
planet right now that we've got to take we've got to take control back of
our governing structures, and we ought to do it in the context of getting
access to this information. We have to demonstrate that we're worthy of participating in
a peaceful way with our neighbors in our galaxy. You know, if we're
going to get access to figuring out how to come and go from their cultures
to learn from their cultures what might be a benefit to us, you know,
we're going to have to demonstrate a responsible willingness on the part of our
citizenry to stand up to these corporate forces on our planet and take back our
constitutional authority to govern ourselves. That's what this is all about. Well,
I've just heard from Chanelle. She wants to try to call her again.
So here it goes. We'll see what happens, all right, So we
have I think it was from boy William from Florida. Can you hear me?
Yes? I can hear you can. Yes, it's working. Yes,
Yeah, you have a question for our guests. Yeah I do,
Danny. I've been a long follower of you. I support your endeavors one
hundred percent. I'll just tell you from personal experience, and I think that's
the best I can. Way I can say it is that way too much
information is overclassified. That's a fact. Yeah right, I know that a
lot of other people know that. But here's my question to you. What
do you think should be made public that the public has the right to know
because it's such public significance, versus what should be kept private. Well let
me answer the first part of that first. You know, I think that
that clearly we should be informed that there is an extraterrestrial civilization here in our
galaxy, that there are as many as five million other highly intelligent, highly
technologically developed, but non human species in our galaxy that we need to be
informed about that. We need to know how many of them have have developed
InterPlaNet interstellar space travel, how many of them have come to our planet.
Uh, what, if anything, their agenda might be with regard to our
planet. You know, what steps can be taken by our citizenry to establish
a peaceful and productive, in cooperative relationship with the members of this extraterrestrial civilization.
You know what, what can what can we do to preserve our own
integrity, our own sovereignty, our own agency over our own civilization and still
become a cooperating participant in this extraterrestrial civilization. You know, these are things
that we need to know and we need to have conversation about these things.
And the problem is is that until such time as the people are notified by
authoritative sources that this is the fact, people are going to continue to not
pay attention to it. They're going to keep on thinking, well, you
know, we don't know for sure whether it's true or not. But the
fact is, eighty percent of the people in the country are convinced that UFOs
are real. You know, eighty percent of the people believe they're extraterrestrial.
You know, but they until such time as our elected representatives are willing to
come forward and share this information with us, people are going to spend their
time, you know, focusing on much more short term objectives that they have
in their lives and that we need to prepare for this. We we we
do not want to be shocked and stunned by the revelation of the fact that
there's such another civilization here by them having to kind of intervene in some way
to protect our planet from being destroyed by a thermonuclear war by ourselves, and
that we don't want to have them have to intervene to stop us from destroying
our planet with global climate change by being attached to one particular form of generating
our electrical energy. You know, we don't want to have such an intervention
be necessary. So we need to have the information that is going to adequately
convince the overwhelming majority of our people that this is true. So that's the
answer to the first part of your questions, what are some of the things
that need to definitely be communicated to our people. The second part of your
question is, you know what kind of things might need to be secret.
You know, we have identified in this bill here some of the things we
don't need to know the name means of a particular official, you know,
who has been guilty of destroying the lives of other people. You know,
we don't need to know the names of it. We don't have to,
you know, extract a pound of flesh from the people who've been involved in
this covert operation to keep this secret all this time. A substantial majority of
them we're dead now, you know. It's been going on for seventy five
years. But there are people, without any doubt at all, there are
people that are alive today who have committed crimes in order to try to protect
this information and keep it secret so that other people can make you know,
gross private profits off of the effort to back engineer this stuff. And they
are guilty, as I pointed out, of being a federal criminal racketeering enterprise.
You know, it meets all the criteria for this, you know.
And we prosecuted the off the shelf enterprise of the of Oliver North and his
people, you know, and we we sustained it with a special prosecutor getting
appointed. You know, he filed the criminal charges against them, asserting that
they were engaged in the very criminal racketeering enterprise that we identified, you know,
and g Robert Blakey, who is the one who was the chief counsel
for the Senate Judiciary committee that drafted the Federal Criminal Racketeering Act. You know,
he said that that was the most effectively pleaded criminal rico statute case he'd
ever seen. So we're perfectly capable of doing that, of laying out the
details, you know, as a special prosecutor of these people, and we
will insist upon doing that if they continue to push back against our being able
to mobilize our political representatives to take constitutional action to protect ourselves in this information
and get it to us, you know, if they if they're going to
force us to do this, you know, we will have to get an
administration into power, you know, in twenty and twenty eight. You know,
it's it's a too short a term now to deal with it in the
twenty twenty four election, you know, which is threatening mayhem in itself coming
up. But in twenty twenty eight, we're going to start working right from
if they don't allow this statute to be inserted in past into law in the
National Defense Authorization Act here in December, we're going to mount a five year
campaign that is going to culminate in twenty twenty eight and putting in a new
administration, because there's going to be a new administration in any event. Even
if if Biden wins in twenty twenty four, you know, or if Trump
were to win, he's already served a term that neither one of them can
serve more than another term. So we know that there's going to be a
new administration in power in twenty twenty eight. What we're going to do is
mobilize our American people and put an administration into power into twenty twenty eight,
not only in control of the White House, but in control of the Senate
and in control of the House of Representatives that are going to make this information
public, Okay, and that that's what we're going to do. Now.
The question that you ask is to what might be some of the things that
shouldn't be revealed. As I've said, we don't need to know the individual
names of individuals who may have committed some of these crimes. We're willing to
grant amnesty to them. This can be done confidentially, even if necessary,
through the Defense or through the Justice Department. We don't. But there's very
little, there's very little relating to this issue that is legitimately classified to protect
the national security of the United States technology. I'm sorry, you don't think
that technology should be classified classified? Why, Well, we're not the only
ones that have this, So what I mean that's like saying we ought to
we ought to we ought to keep confidential the secrets of electricity because we don't
want anybody else knowing about it. You know what, what's the what we
have to have is a treaty that we all agree prohibits anybody in any country
anywhere utilizing the technology to develop any kind of a weapon system. You know
that that's the key we we have to we have to have a treaty,
uh that that prohibits this, you know, if it's available to people.
Pardon, I don't know how you do that with communist countries. With communist
countries, what do you mean, Russia, China? How do you get
them to enact a treaty about this exhaust systems that they may or may not
have that they're trying to develop into weapons just like we are. Well what
what? What I think you don't understand is that the fact is that the
Soviet in China decades ago, had agreed that if the United States would agree
to disassemble its nuclear weapons, it will disassemble all of its nuclear weapons.
They will agree not to have any kind of nuclear weapons systems at all.
You know, they've agreed to that to begin with. It isn't the communist
countries that were causing the problem here, it was the United States. The
United States insisted upon having nuclear weapons so that they could force their will across
the world. You know, That's what we've got. That's the problem we've
got here. That what we have to do have the United States be willing
to put forth a treaty that is enforceable to prohibit anybody in the world from
using any of this technology for weapons purposes. Now, the problem is that
they want to protect they want to give special advantage to our American corporations to
be able to use it even for private purposes and for civilian purposes. That's
not a legitimate interest on the part of our national security. We don't have
to we don't have to have monopoly control over the natural resource of the planet.
You know. We don't even have to have as five percent of the
population of the planet. We don't have to consume forty percent of all the
natural resources of the planet every year. That's not a national security interest.
That's just private greed, Navarice. You know, we need to have an
entire different view of our human family as one united human family on our planet,
and we need to share the resources we need to We need to have
the peaceful development of all of these different kind of resources that we have.
You know, we don't have to lord it over the rest of the planet.
We don't have to have a national defense budget every single year. There's
ten bigger than the ten other countries in the world. You know, we
don't have to do that. You know. And now this may this may
require kind of a profound change in attitude, but that's exactly what the reality
of the extraterrestrial civilization offers us, is that it can completely and profoundly try
transform our entire perception of ourself as a human species, as one unified family
that can participate in a cooperative way peacefully. And I think that the treaty,
the treaty banning the use of any of the UFO technology for any weapons
purposes at all is a very important first step, and it will be one
of the major planks in the platform of a new twenty twenty eight administration here
in our United States government. It has to be we have to take this
step because we've been the bully on the block, you know for the last
seventy five years. That's what we're doing. I mean, And all you
have to do is think about it. I mean, you could say,
oh, well, what about you know, putin in Russia that invaded the
Ukraine. I mean, all you have to do is back up and do
a little homework and discover that there was an agreement made. We were personally
involved at the Jesuit headquarters, involved in meeting with Gorbachev to get him to
agree to step back from the from the Cold War and agree to step back
and release all the republics of the Union of Soviet Socials republics. And there
was a specific promise that was made by George Bush Senior and James Baker the
Third to pruit to Gorbachev that we would never try to recruit any of the
Soviet republics into NATO. It was a specific promise that was made. But
as soon as Dick Cheney got into power, along with just Bush junior.
You know, they began one by one to start recruiting those republics into NATO
and putting nuclear missiles into those areas. These are things that you need to
know about here, you know, And so that it isn't that you know
that there's this horrible threat of Russia attacking us across the ice caps, you
know, I mean that went out back in the nineteen fifties. You know,
what we have to do is have a treaty that prohibits anybody and everybody
from making any kind of use of the technology to develop any kind of a
weapons system. And we can enforce that if the United States will abide by
it. I'm sure that we can get China to a degree to that,
and we can get Russia to agree to it. We can get every country
in the world to agree to it. Well, thank you, William.
We actually have people standing by to talk to you, and one of them
is let's see, we have Dave from Toronto. Dave, welcome to the
show. Hello, how are you. I'm good, Thank you for calling
in. You have a question for Danny. Yes, we've heard a lot
of very bold claims from some very reputable people, and my question is when
is the general public one to see some more substantive evidence of what's going on,
pictures or video or even more than that. Well, they're going to
be they're either going to be provided this information pursuant to the UAP Controlled Discool
Act, pursue it to a specific calendar. You know that there's a specific
time. I could go into it in some detail, but they've set forth
the details of how that information needs to be unfolded or it's going to be
undertaken in an unmore regulated way. And we're going to bring forth more and
more whistleblowers. We're going to be presenting them to the Senate Intelligence Committee,
We're going to be providing them to the House Oversight Committee. What we're going
to do is we're going to continue to function just as though this law were
passed, okay, and we're going to provide this information to the members of
Congress, and we're going to have them exercising their own judgment as to what
this information needs to be made public. They're going to agree to hold public
hearings where witnesses like David Grusch are going to come forward and under oath,
are going to testify under oath in open hearings about what the information is that
these major aerospace industries don't want revealed. And we're going to start revealing it
in a choreographed manner. Step by step. We're going to keep on coming
with this information, you know, and it's either going to be under a
controlled process or it's going to be under a less control process. But that's
what we're going to do so they can take this to the bank. Wow.
Great, well, thank you, Thank you, Dave. I appreciate
thank you, Dave, I appreciate it. We have we have one more
caller and that is Penny from the UK. Penny, welcome to the show.
Thank you so much. Thank you so much, mister Shan for your
passionate contribution everything to do with this amazing. My question is, please,
if the special Access program NDAs were signed in organizations within the government that are
committing on constitutional apps, does that actually render them non void because as as
an organization that's sort of committing corporate treason of some sort towards the constitution,
yes that that we we could in fact take an action to get them declared
void because it's a contract contrary to public interest. There's an entire, entire
doctrine in contract law that prohibits forcing a person to sign a contract that is
fundamentally contrary to the public interest, you know. And that and I've offered
to free of charge represent the people who are in possession of information that should
be disclosed, that is being illegally classified and being kept from the Congress and
kept from the public, to defend them against this charge. That's why I
represented lou Alissando, That's why I represented others. You know that the fact
of the matter is that this information is going to be made available, uh,
and that we're going to argue make the arguments that Congress should be allowed
to bring forward this information. Uh. And that's what we're going to do.
The answer is yes, the the bona fides of those non disclosure agreements
can be vitiated if, in fact, it can be demonstrated that the that
the people who impose those non disclosure agreements on those individuals were engaged in unlawful,
criminal activity and unconstitutional activity. That's our position. Anything else, much
question, anything else pending. I'd just like to hear your accent so we
can The only tiny question I was going to ask is what sort of areas
of personal developments to Satan feel that we should be attempting to sort of engage
in our in our sort of daily existence that could help us with this initial
sort of baby steps with the NHI and how to realistically present our best sites
if we're going to have this extraordinary compensation. Well, it's a very simple
answer to that that. The most important thing that anyone listening to this program
can do is they can go on Amazon Books in order the two volumes set
by Richard Dolan of the UFOs in the National Security State and what is just
filled with actual US official government internal documents that detail the history of the UFO
phenomenon and the development of a completely unlawful illegal activity on the part of the
deep state of our American government in unlawfully destroying the lives of people who have
been attempting to peacefully and constitutionally get answers to these questions. You know,
it's easy, Richard Dolan two volumes of the UFOs and the National Security State,
and just bring it home and read it. Read both volumes of this
and you will become an expert on what the status is of the actual internal
government documents Already showing what's been going on. I mean, there are letters
there from the commanding officers of the United States Air Force to the President saying,
we know that these are real, we know that they're metallic craft that
are flying at these outrageous rates. We're unable to do anything about this,
and we think that there needs to be a major program developed the government to
figure out who these these people are that are flying these things. You know.
And and that was that was like fifty years ago. Uh, and
that the documents are there. It's simple, you know now. And so
just tell yourself this. For every person who's listening to this who has not
read those two volumes, don't complain. Don't complain about how hard it is
to get something done. If you won't even bother reading the two books.
You know, there's just two volumes of it, and you just go through
them, and you'll be familiar with the different kinds of sightings, the different
kinds of evidence, the internal documents acknowledging that they know about this, you
know, and you will then be fully equipped to talk with your fellow citizens,
your friends, your neighbors, your fellow family members, your relatives,
to say, look at uh, there's this. There's this two volume work
of all the internal US government documents showing that this stuff is true and is
going on here. Let me have a conversation with you about this. We
have to take control of our own government, Okay. We need to do
that by being educated about the facts. And you can get those from Richard
Dolan's two volume work, The UFOs and the National Security State. That's a
simple answer to your question. Penny. Thank thank you, Penny, thank
you for taking the time. Thank you. All right, thank you.
So I'm going to have to ask Richard for a commission on that. He'll
sell some books. But anyway, we have about eight minutes left and that's
it. There was another call, but they dropped off, and so actually
we could probably wrap the show here in like three minutes. So I think
you've really given out all the information that I think that you know, the
people that want to help will do something. And I really thank you for
your your work. And you know it's funny I sent you an email.
Oh we do have another person. I am so sorry about that. He's
been waiting all this time. Okay, so we will bring let's let's cancel
that rap and we'll bring Leo in here, Leo, Leo, Leo,
how are you hey? I'm going to hey, Danny. I had a
pleasure of meeting you a year ago in Pasadena, So thanks for your attention
on doing the right thing and fighting to do kind of good for our human
family. I had two questions. The first one was how has this slipped
through the clacks from the checks and balances of other governments, nation states,
religious bodies like the Vatican, which is I'm sure filled with so many individuals,
independent thinkers and collects, and this humans like us. What is this
organization and how is it? How has it managed to build an alliance to
kind of pull the will over everyone's eye? Right? That is my first
question. Well, actually, I guess what I say is that it hasn't.
The reality is is that eighty percent of all the people in the country
believe it's true, you know, and they believe they're extraterrestrial. That if
you go around the world, you know, a substantial plurality of regular people
are sure this is true. That the challenges with the elite, and the
answer to that part of the question is why don't the elite acknowledge that this
is true? And the answer to that is is that the elite are worried
that if this information is made available to the regular people, is going to
undermine the kind of authority that these elite people have, that people are going
to look through them to trying to figure out what the extraterrestrial people know about
if they've existed. You've got I got to understand the universe is thirteen point
seven billion years old, you know, and our whole planet is only three
point five billion years old. So you've got ten billion more years of other
civilizations potentially existing in our universe and in our galaxy. And so that if
you have if you have a number of civilizations that are even one billion years,
not ten billion years, but one billion years more advanced than we are,
and have had all of that time to philosophize, in theologize and develop
technologies, et cetera, you know that the the onslaugh of that type of
information threatens the elite on our planet who believe that they need to maintain themselves
as the people that the vast majority of people in the world trust to help
make decisions about how our human family should be operating. And if you look
around the world right now, I guess you can ask that famous question,
how's that doing for us? You know, how well well are we doing
at that right now? You know, So the elite group of people in
the academic world and in the financial world, the corporate world, they're all
worried about losing control over the resources of the planet, and so that's what's
keeping them from doing it. And they're in charge of most of the media,
and they're in charge of the universities, they're in charge of the educational
processes on the planet, and so that they're very reluctant to give up their
unique position and positions of at the pyramid of all authority on the planet.
So that's the answer to that one as to why they've been thinking that they're
pulling the wool over the eyes of the vast majority of people. But they're
not, because the most of the people more or less believe it now,
but they're still they've been trained, the average people have been trained to believe
that in order to really act on something, you need to be told by
somebody in a position of authority that it's true. Now, that's why it's
so important that the New York Times made the decision back in December of twenty
seventeen to put on a front page story the fact they didn't put out the
fact that there's UFOs and they're real, and that you know they've been coming
and going. What they did is that there's a secret program inside the Pentagon
is being lied about, so therefore they think there's some kind of a problem
here. And what that did is open the gates for the people coming forward
and giving more information to assertain that, in fact, there is an extraterrestrial
civilization and they are coming here in the UFO vehicles and they are engaging in
having face to face encounters with our human family and attempting to convey to us
that we have to get rid of our nuclear weapons programs, and we also
have to stop polluting our planet, imposing global climate change on our planet that
is threatening to destroy the life generating capacity of our unique planet here that these
are things that people believe, but we're right on the brink right now.
Have en listing more and more and more of the people who are in the
traditional elite governing class of our human species into acknowledging this. That's what this
bill is all about. This bill is the codification at the present state of
the development of this movement of how far we've reached up in to the power
structure to get significant portions of the power structure to agree that the time has
come to make this information available. And what's happening is we're running into this
tiny, tiny minority of people inside the elite who are so desperate to stay
in control of this information that they're blocking the democratic process and they're blocking the
constitutional form of our government from functioning. And that's why this bill is so
important to get passed. And we've got to roll out every single resource that
we have at our disposal to get this law passed, and we've only got
twenty five days to do it. So everybody, even if you're from another
country, you need to contact these people in Congress and say, the whole
world is watching. The whole world is watching, you know, and that
you're embarrassing yourself by failing to demonstrate that democracy really works. If you want
to make the best arguments that you can against the ones that William is talking
about the communist countries, you know, that show them that democracy can really
work. That's what you need, and that we're willing to give power.
We're willing to give up the kind of unilateral power to dominate the whole planet
at this extraordinarily important moments as a gesture for bringing our human family together.
Yeah, excellent. I'm so sorry, Leo, I had to cut the
second question because we are plumb out of time. Danny, thank you so
much. It's been a real pleasure, and I hope to have you back
on the show again someday for sure. Okay, and good luck with all
the efforts. I do appreciate them. Tell them to contact their congress people
right now. That's right, Okay, thank you, take care. All
right, everyone. We will be back next week with Kevin Wright, and
actually he will be continuing a little bit more of this talk. And don't
forget, we have Crossfire on Thursday night on this YouTube channel. I'm going
to be administrating it, and that will be at eight to ten pm Eastern.
Thanks so much, everyone, and remember to keep your eyes to the sky.