1 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:28,320 Hello, and welcome to the show. I think we're good to go now. 2 00:00:28,359 --> 00:00:33,560 We had a Danny shean just the losses Internet, but it looks like 3 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,200 it might be back, which is a good thing. Yes, it looks 4 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,880 like we're in business. So thank you all for jumping over from the other 5 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:46,719 show we had earlier. And so there's two streams this week. And we 6 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:54,200 have attorney Danny shean on who has done so many amazing things throughout his career 7 00:00:54,640 --> 00:01:00,039 and I'm really excited that he is involved in trying to have some UAP transparency, 8 00:01:00,439 --> 00:01:07,560 which I think is very important these days. And we have an UAP 9 00:01:07,799 --> 00:01:15,159 Disclosure Act of sorts that was proposed by Chuck Schumer that is in jeopardy and 10 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,319 that's what we're here to talk about. Hello Danny, Greetings Martin, and 11 00:01:19,359 --> 00:01:23,640 you hear me? Okay, yeah, there you are, Pew your internet 12 00:01:23,079 --> 00:01:27,120 crashed. Boy, I'm glad you're back. Just a few seconds. That's 13 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:32,400 where we're a couple of minutes later here. Yeah, oh is that right? 14 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,239 Well? Thank you so so glad to have you on. We met 15 00:01:36,359 --> 00:01:42,480 at DC in Line at the on July twenty sixth. We were there to 16 00:01:42,519 --> 00:01:45,840 see David Grush. You had a much better seat than I did. But 17 00:01:45,879 --> 00:01:48,280 at least I got in the door. I was glad to be there. 18 00:01:49,079 --> 00:01:53,519 Fascinating. That whole day was fascinating. So let's let's talk about, first 19 00:01:53,599 --> 00:01:59,280 of all, if you would, what the Schumer Act more or less is, 20 00:01:59,359 --> 00:02:04,400 what involved in it, and then what happened last I think it was 21 00:02:04,519 --> 00:02:08,520 last right around Thanksgiving Day or the day it seems like everything. Yeah, 22 00:02:09,159 --> 00:02:13,960 so let's talk about what that is and what happened. Sure, okay, 23 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:21,879 Well, what the Schumer Bill is is it's a proposed amendment, a supplement 24 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:28,960 actually to the National Defense Authorization Act. The National Defense Authorization Act is an 25 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:34,759 omnibus statute that has passed every single year, just like around December twenty first, 26 00:02:34,879 --> 00:02:39,280 right before the members of Congress go home for the Christmas in New Year's 27 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:46,800 holidays, ending the term of the House of Representatives, and so that they 28 00:02:46,199 --> 00:02:51,800 bundle all of the different kind of defense spending all the way from the five 29 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:57,599 hundred dollars coffee pots in the officers clubs to the nuclear powered aircraft carriers and 30 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:04,319 submarines in the eighteen super hornets that they want to build more up. And 31 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,439 so what we had done is we had crafted a statue, a sixty four 32 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:16,479 page supplement to go into the thousand page National Defense Authorization Act that was going 33 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:23,360 to continue the process that has been begun over the last couple of years to 34 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:31,319 take more and more aggressive positions demanding that the elements inside the American government and 35 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:39,919 inside American aerospace industry come forward with the information that they have about UFOs and 36 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:46,639 about the pilots or sources of the UFOs and provide that information to Congress, 37 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:53,360 because they have been not only withholding all that information from Congress for seventy five 38 00:03:53,439 --> 00:03:58,520 years, but they've been lying to Congress while they've been lying to the American 39 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,879 people about their knowledge of this, and they have been engaged in an aggressive 40 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:11,319 program that has been now proven that we've gotten documents through the Freedom of Information 41 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:17,160 Act that have revealed the fact that the Central Intelligence Agency and the Defense Department 42 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:25,639 has had for fifty years or more an aggressive campaign of destroying the lives of 43 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,079 people who try to report any of these contacts with the UFOs, not only 44 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:35,279 inside the government, inside the military, but even private civilians. And so 45 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:44,920 that we have been moving steadily the group of us that are is called the 46 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:50,079 UFO community to try to compel the government of the United States, in our 47 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:57,079 democracy, to reveal this information, beginning to reveal it to Congress at least, 48 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,759 just to at least reveal the information to our elected representatives, and then 49 00:05:00,759 --> 00:05:06,079 to have the elected representatives in turn reveal as much of this to our American 50 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:14,319 people as they can without jeopardizing individual means of you know, doing spying on 51 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:20,759 opponents and in the means by which they do their work, and revealing nuclear 52 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:26,040 secret about how to build an atomic bond. You know that we're not asking 53 00:05:26,079 --> 00:05:29,199 for that. What we're saying is, look, you've got to tell the 54 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,240 Congress, and the Congress has to tell the American people what it is that's 55 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:38,199 going on here and stop lying to us. Now. I became involved in 56 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:45,360 it most recently when Lou Alessondo reached out to me. Lou Alessando was the 57 00:05:45,439 --> 00:05:53,439 director of a top secret Pentagon Defense Department study about the UFO phenomenon that was 58 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:59,639 instigated by Senator Reid Harry Reid when he was the majority leader of the Senate. 59 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:10,519 He demanded that twenty million dollars twenty two million dollars, actually twenty two 60 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:16,040 million dollars was appropriated to pay for this secret study that was going to be 61 00:06:16,079 --> 00:06:20,879 done in an updating of the information about the UFOs. But the bottom line 62 00:06:20,959 --> 00:06:28,279 is is that lou kept running into roadblocks everywhere that not only was he being 63 00:06:28,519 --> 00:06:32,519 denied the access to the information that he needed to study the UFO phenomena, 64 00:06:32,959 --> 00:06:41,120 but he discovered that extraordinarily high ranking people inside our government were being denied access 65 00:06:41,399 --> 00:06:45,600 to the same information, including the head of intelligence for the Joint Chiefs of 66 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,839 Staff. There were Secretaries of Defents that weren't briefed in. There were presidents 67 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:55,519 that were not briefed in about this issue. And he wrote a letter to 68 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,759 a Secretary of State, Mattics, complaining about this, and his letter was 69 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:08,959 intercepted and they refused to present it to the Secretary of Defense, and so 70 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:15,399 he resigned in protest over this, and he brought with him these three videos 71 00:07:15,519 --> 00:07:20,439 that he brought to the New York Times with the support of Christopher Mellon, 72 00:07:20,839 --> 00:07:27,240 who was the Assistant Secretary of Defense, the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for 73 00:07:27,319 --> 00:07:34,199 Intelligence for the United States Defense Department under both President Bill Clinton and w. 74 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:40,279 Bush, and the two of them brought this information to the New York Times 75 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:45,000 and the New York Times Board of editors agreed to publish it, and they 76 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:49,879 did on the evening of December sixteenth of twenty seventeen, and then in the 77 00:07:49,879 --> 00:07:57,079 morning paper of December seventeenth, on the front page of the Sunday New York 78 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:03,560 Times, they published this article revealing the fact that there was this top secret 79 00:08:03,639 --> 00:08:09,040 program that was going on inside the Pentagon to investigate the UFO phenomenon, while 80 00:08:09,079 --> 00:08:13,600 the while the Pentagon officials were lying to the public to say, we don't 81 00:08:13,639 --> 00:08:18,399 know anything about UFOs. They're not real. You know, We've already looked 82 00:08:18,399 --> 00:08:20,439 into this. There's nothing going on here, there's nothing to see here, 83 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:26,639 just move on. And it turns out that they were lying again in the 84 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:31,319 New York Times basically called him out on that. And since that time, 85 00:08:31,399 --> 00:08:35,679 December seventeenth of twenty seventeen, for the last five years, you know that 86 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:41,360 we've been engaged in the UFO community, pushing forward to try to get more 87 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:48,159 and more and more information out about this. And this bill is, in 88 00:08:48,159 --> 00:08:52,960 a sense, the culmination of that entire process that's been going on since twenty 89 00:08:52,080 --> 00:09:00,159 seventeen. We got the majority leader of the Senate, Schumer Chuck Schumert to 90 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:07,879 introduce this bill is completely bipartisan. You've got not only Marco Rubio from Florida, 91 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:13,679 the Republican deputy head of the Senate Intelligence Committee. You've got Mike Brown 92 00:09:13,759 --> 00:09:20,240 from South Dakota. You've got this bill that's been introduced by Senator Schumer with 93 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:30,879 the co sponsorship from Rubio, who is the Republican lead Republican in the Senate 94 00:09:30,879 --> 00:09:37,480 Intelligence Committee, and has got support from virtually everybody except for these four leaders. 95 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:43,279 The head of the House Intelligence Committee, this Mike Turner, and the 96 00:09:43,279 --> 00:09:48,879 head of the Republican head in the House of the Armed Services Committee, Mike 97 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:54,679 Rodgers, and the new Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson. You know, 98 00:09:54,879 --> 00:10:00,240 they've joined together in trying to block this, and it turns out that, 99 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:05,840 you know, they're all directly in the pay of the major aerospace industries. 100 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:11,320 The largest contributor to to Mike Rogers at the Armed Services is Lockheed Martin, 101 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,639 and Lockheed Martin is one of the companies that's in possession of some of 102 00:10:16,639 --> 00:10:20,159 this UFO technology and they don't want to give it up. Uh and uh, 103 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:26,919 Mike Turner uh is the is the congressman from the district that has has 104 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:31,639 that Wright Patterson Air Force Base, which is the base to which the UFO 105 00:10:31,799 --> 00:10:35,559 that crashed in Roswell was taken. You know, So that we we've got 106 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:41,600 the two key spots where the where the uh the bad guys in this whole 107 00:10:41,639 --> 00:10:46,759 thing that are trying to keep secret their access to this so they can make 108 00:10:46,799 --> 00:10:50,639 it into weapons, you know. Uh, it's their home home base. 109 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,639 Uh. And they these are the two guys that are leading the charge to 110 00:10:54,639 --> 00:11:00,519 to stop this bill, to make them have to cough this information up and 111 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:05,600 give it to the intelligence committees of the Congress. And these guys are betraying 112 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:11,120 their entire obligation as congressmen, not only to the country, but to their 113 00:11:11,159 --> 00:11:18,320 responsibilities for chairing these two committees of the Virtually all of the members of their 114 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,840 committees support this bill in both the House and the Senate. And yet they're 115 00:11:22,879 --> 00:11:31,039 digging in and in doing the bidding for these private, for profit corporations that 116 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:37,639 are paying for their campaigns. I mean, this is a crass demonstration of 117 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:43,200 the bribing of these congress people, you know, by the aerospace industry to 118 00:11:43,279 --> 00:11:48,080 be able to keep this technology. That's what's happening right here now. You 119 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,559 know, it's to me. You know, I could go on and on, 120 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,600 you know about what I think about this, but I've always thought, 121 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:03,279 you know, the campaign contributions, the lobby system is important, but when 122 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:07,960 it's used for greed and money and power, it's it's a corruption in my 123 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,440 opinion. So I guess I would like to say this, Do you think 124 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:18,279 it's possible that there's some other type of pressure that they're giving besides financial? 125 00:12:18,879 --> 00:12:22,879 Do you think that they could be like, we cannot let this secret out. 126 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,360 This is our you know, bread and butter or whatever it is that 127 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:33,559 these these major private corporations that have these Do you think there's other pressure they're 128 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,799 giving them or do you think it's just financial? Well, it's it's financial 129 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,320 and political, and that what they've demonstrated in the past, and we've proven 130 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:48,960 it, is that they have destroyed the political careers and destroyed the professional careers 131 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,600 in government of anybody who doesn't do their bidding. I mean, that's been 132 00:12:54,639 --> 00:13:00,120 going on now for seventy five years. And if one wants to see the 133 00:13:00,159 --> 00:13:05,480 proof of this, you just go to Richard Dolan's two volumes of his book 134 00:13:05,919 --> 00:13:11,440 called the UFOs and the National Security State and they have right there. They 135 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:16,559 have the documents that show the internal documents or the Central Intelligence Agency and the 136 00:13:18,279 --> 00:13:26,080 elements inside the Defense Department have been consciously destroying the political careers of people who 137 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,799 defy them. You know, So this is more than just financial support. 138 00:13:30,639 --> 00:13:33,559 This is threats that they make to people, to their families. You know, 139 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:41,240 this is a criminal syndicate that is functioning here to try to capture and 140 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:48,679 keep secret this information. Now, the people who are the primary people moving 141 00:13:48,759 --> 00:13:56,519 to try to get some public revelation of this information come from within the Defense 142 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:03,360 Department. They're they're honest, patriotic military people and intelligence people who are fed 143 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:09,600 up with this type of criminal self dealing that these aerospace industries are engaged in. 144 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:15,039 And what they're doing is they're bribing. Not only they're they're hiring the 145 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:20,759 people offering them hundreds of thousands of dollars as consultants to come over and help 146 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:26,879 support their ability to keep this secret. You know, they've they've they've hired 147 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:31,200 they've hired guys like Jay Stratton, They've hired guys like Travis, They've hired 148 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:37,399 people like and others to come in and just take hundreds of thousands of dollars 149 00:14:37,399 --> 00:14:41,440 a year to be on their team to keep this secret. You know, 150 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:48,519 this is this is a display of the type of corruption that has plagued our 151 00:14:48,639 --> 00:14:52,360 American democratic system, you know, and it's been confounded by the United States 152 00:14:52,399 --> 00:15:03,679 Supreme Court passing the the the case the Citizens United that allows these corporations to 153 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:11,000 pay tens of millions of dollars to the chair people of these committees to bribe 154 00:15:11,039 --> 00:15:16,159 them into protecting their financial interests. I mean, so, I mean, 155 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:20,799 this isn't this isn't a program about the corruption of government right now. But 156 00:15:20,919 --> 00:15:26,360 what it's doing is is coming to is coming to rest on this extraordinarily important 157 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,679 issue that over eighty percent of the people in the country, you know, 158 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:37,679 believe that we and the UFOs are real, they're extraterrestrial in origin. They 159 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,879 believe our government has gotten their hands on, you know, one or more 160 00:15:41,919 --> 00:15:48,240 of these craft and that they're trying to back engineer the technology to make a 161 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:52,679 weapons system. You know. I mean, it's it's the old Sufi saying 162 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,799 is that when a pickpocket meets a saint, all you can see are his 163 00:15:56,879 --> 00:16:02,080 pockets, you know, And that's what's going on here. These people are 164 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:07,600 corrupting our entire political system. Uh. And now they've they've made their move 165 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:14,559 to capture and keep secret probably the most important single piece of information that our 166 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,039 entire human family could have, of the fact that we are not alone, 167 00:16:18,679 --> 00:16:26,080 that there is an entire extraterrestrial civilization that surrounds us, that their their people 168 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,519 are coming and going from our planet. Uh. And these people in the 169 00:16:30,519 --> 00:16:37,960 aerospace industry and some certain element deep within the deep state of our American government 170 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:44,000 are trying to establish confidential relations with these people, with these people, much 171 00:16:44,039 --> 00:16:47,519 to the detriment of our entire human family. You know, I mean, 172 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:52,919 could you couldn't ask for a more outrageous demonstration of the perfidy of these people, 173 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,360 you know, like now Mike Turner and Mike Rogers. I mean that 174 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:03,039 that these people need to be moved. You know that they're they're being paid. 175 00:17:03,399 --> 00:17:07,039 You know, they're they're basically having cash delivered to them in brown paper 176 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,680 bags across their desk in the Senate, in the House, you know, 177 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:17,400 to to protect the financial interests of the stockholders of these private corporations. So 178 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:22,119 that I mean that we've got we've got to come to grips with this fundamental 179 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:29,880 problem in this particular bill, which has got virtually uniform support from all the 180 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,240 Republicans and all the Democrats in the House and in the Senate who are not 181 00:17:33,519 --> 00:17:41,119 on the payroll of these private aerospace corporations, are all in favor of turning 182 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:47,839 over the information to the to the at least to the Senate Intelligence Committee and 183 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,400 House Intelligence committees. You know. And here's the guy, Mike Turner, 184 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,920 who chairs the House Intelligence Committee, who's going to benefit from this. His 185 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,839 whole committee is going to benefit from getting access to this information, and he 186 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:06,960 completely betraying his entire responsibility to function as the chair of this committee, you 187 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,960 know, by taking private money from these corporations. You know. So this 188 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:18,440 is people should be I won't use the term anymore up in arms, because 189 00:18:18,559 --> 00:18:22,240 we're not calling people to get up in arms, you know, we're not 190 00:18:22,319 --> 00:18:26,640 asking people to get in the streets with torches and pitchforks, you know, 191 00:18:26,759 --> 00:18:29,599 on these guys. But you know, this has to be stopped. I 192 00:18:29,599 --> 00:18:33,960 mean, if we have to throw down on these people in the context of 193 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:38,559 this particular statue that virtually ninety nine percent of everybody in the House and Senate 194 00:18:38,599 --> 00:18:41,720 wants to pass, you know, and what they're getting ready to do, 195 00:18:41,799 --> 00:18:48,200 is they're getting ready to abuse their power by in effect threatening the other members 196 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,839 of their committees, you know, by threatening to remove them from the committee, 197 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:56,160 to take the staff away from them. You know, this is the 198 00:18:56,279 --> 00:19:00,319 kind of threats that they're exercising against the members of the House and Senate are 199 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:07,480 elected representatives to protect their financier, their financiers, these private financiers. And 200 00:19:07,519 --> 00:19:12,559 you can bet that Mike Turner and Mike Rodgers are just waiting to get permanently 201 00:19:12,599 --> 00:19:18,000 and officially employed by these aerospace corporations, you know, to hire them for 202 00:19:18,279 --> 00:19:22,279 you know, tens of hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to come over 203 00:19:22,519 --> 00:19:26,200 and be lobbyists for them. You know, that's what's going on here. 204 00:19:26,279 --> 00:19:30,680 I mean, this is this is a total outrage that's going on. Yeah. 205 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,480 So yeah, I want to talk about we're back basically back to square 206 00:19:36,559 --> 00:19:41,960 one if this doesn't if this is not part of the Defense Authorization Act, 207 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,319 right, I mean, we're square one. We've we've made we've made so 208 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:52,559 many advances since since December of twenty seventeen. What this is is this is 209 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:59,319 the the offensive move that has been made by an alliance between the traditional UFO 210 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:04,319 community and the people inside the Defense Department and the intelligence community who want to 211 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,559 have this information revealed to the people. So we have a coalition that is 212 00:20:08,599 --> 00:20:14,079 not going to go away. And the fact of the matter is, these 213 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,359 these guys that Mike Turner and Mike Rogers and John Mike Johnson, you know, 214 00:20:18,599 --> 00:20:25,480 they are they are destroying. They're destroying the credibility of our entire democratic 215 00:20:25,559 --> 00:20:30,720 institutions here where you have the overwhelming majority of people in our country wanting to 216 00:20:30,759 --> 00:20:34,519 get this information conveyed into the Congress, you know, to take it out 217 00:20:34,519 --> 00:20:38,799 of the exclusive hands of these private corporations and put it into the hands of 218 00:20:38,599 --> 00:20:44,440 our elected representatives so they can decide what's to be done about this. You 219 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,319 know. Uh. And in these guys, these guys are to be run 220 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,799 out of town. I agree. I think we should do that. We'll 221 00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:57,440 do that ourselves, you know. I have a couple of questions that came 222 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:02,480 in. One of them is a long time supporter of the show that helps 223 00:21:02,519 --> 00:21:04,960 me with a lot of information. Palmer wanted me to ask you this question 224 00:21:06,079 --> 00:21:11,960 here, what certainty percentage wise would you put on some of the of this 225 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:18,400 U I p UFO technology being representative of non human intelligence, and then he 226 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,960 had another question after that. Oh sure, no, No, all of 227 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:29,799 this technology this is connected to the UFOs is from a non human intelligence. 228 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,480 I mean that's clearly so you know they're not they're not, you know, 229 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:38,640 capturing UFOs that they made themselves and then trying to keep a secret. You 230 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:45,200 know, this this is you know, it's extraterrestrial in what it presents itself, 231 00:21:45,599 --> 00:21:52,079 you know, as potentially extra dimensional because in my opinion, based on 232 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,480 you know, some forty five years of experience in this field, is that 233 00:21:56,599 --> 00:22:03,000 it presents itself as appearing to bex through dimensional because of the means by which 234 00:22:03,079 --> 00:22:08,359 these vehicles travel. You know, that they travel in a realm that bends, 235 00:22:10,039 --> 00:22:15,119 warps space time, you know, and that accounts for their being able 236 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,960 to move at these extraordinary rates of speed, you know, without having any 237 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:25,400 friction, and it also enables them to turn these ninety degree turns going twenty 238 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:30,039 thousand months an hour, you know, and survive you know, five thousand 239 00:22:30,319 --> 00:22:34,680 G forces you know. So that this is a technology that is so far 240 00:22:34,799 --> 00:22:41,440 beyond anything that any of our human civilizations have developed to this point. And 241 00:22:41,519 --> 00:22:48,240 that's why these private industries are so rapidly devoted to trying to get control of 242 00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:52,319 this because they want to be able to make tens of billions of dollars for 243 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:57,680 the next five hundred years by monopolizing this technology in the same way that the 244 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:03,720 oil corporations have an appolized petroleum. You know that that's exactly what's going on. 245 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,359 Yeah, you know, the old saying here, you know, all 246 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,359 the way back from the Nixon era is fall of the money. You know, 247 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,720 it's basically that, uh here as well. It's worse than that. 248 00:23:14,759 --> 00:23:18,000 It's worse because what this really is, there's an element inside the United States 249 00:23:19,079 --> 00:23:26,559 intelligence community and inside the US military that is devoted to trying to establish full 250 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:33,359 spectrum dominance over the planet. We need to understand that that they are functioning 251 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:38,839 on behalf of the major corporations in the United States, that they're funding their 252 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:44,119 campaigns, and what they're doing is they're deploying our military, for example, 253 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,599 into the Middle East to occupy the Middle Eastern oil fields so that we can 254 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:56,359 maintain a private set of contracts that have been negotiated by our government on behalf 255 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,559 of the major oil corporations, you know, And that's what they're therefore, 256 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:07,160 and they've they've they've spent tens of thousands of lives of people, not only 257 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:14,480 in the Middle East, but American lives to secure control over the petroleum so 258 00:24:14,519 --> 00:24:18,119 that they can have a monopoly control over the source of energy on the planet. 259 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,880 And they see the UFO phenomenon as a threat as an alternative source of 260 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,599 energy that can be provided to the world to help us deal with climate change, 261 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:32,920 to help us deal with poverty, to help us deal with a major 262 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:38,319 agricultural services for the people. You know that they see this as a threat 263 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:44,640 to their their monopoly power on the planet, and that's why they're willing to 264 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,880 go to such extremes of threatening the lives of people, destroying their political careers, 265 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:55,079 destroying their family lives, you know, by having people branded as insane 266 00:24:55,559 --> 00:25:00,039 who simply try to you know, present the information to legit them and authorities 267 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:06,200 about an encounter that they've had with such a UFO, and they send in 268 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:11,680 secret military people to threaten them in their families. You know, I mean, 269 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,640 this is this is a criminal syndicate. This is a federal criminal racketeering 270 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:22,759 organization that we're dealing with here. It's a syndicate that's made up of these 271 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,400 aerospace industries and some of the politicians whom they've bribed, you know, and 272 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,960 you're looking right straight at them right now with Mike Turner and Mike Rodgers and 273 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:41,720 now Johnson and Mitch McConnell is doing their bidding right now. Let's say that 274 00:25:41,839 --> 00:25:47,799 this thing did get included in it passed. What would it look like for 275 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:52,759 some of these corporations if they had to fess up and let me just ask 276 00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:57,599 you this too, and how could we trust that they would totally fess up 277 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,279 with what they have? Well that this what we have to do is we 278 00:26:02,319 --> 00:26:07,319 have to bring to bear the instrumentalities of our government to extract this information from 279 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:12,720 them. That's why the subpoena power that is in this statute is so important. 280 00:26:14,079 --> 00:26:22,519 That this statute specifically provides from Congress the subpoena power to this nine person 281 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:29,359 board is to be established by this statute gives them subpoena power where they can 282 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,559 issue a subpoena to they What they do is they apply to the Attorney General 283 00:26:33,839 --> 00:26:38,880 of the Justice Department to issue a subpoena and to go to federal court and 284 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:45,160 to get the federal District Court in the United States to issue a subpoena, 285 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,480 a judicial subpoena to these people, mandating that they turn over this information or 286 00:26:49,519 --> 00:26:53,680 they will be held in contempt of court, a criminal contempt of court. 287 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:59,400 You know, they can be imprisoned if they refuse to cooperate with our government, 288 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,839 you know. Uh. Yeah, But when it comes to corporations, 289 00:27:02,839 --> 00:27:07,519 they have protections, don't they like, because it's a corporation not an individual. 290 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,400 Well no, But the fact of the matter is, the subpoenas can 291 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,799 be issued to the private uh, the private management of the corporation. They 292 00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:22,160 can subpoena the the CEOs, they can subpoena the chief operating officers that they 293 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,640 can subpoena them and mandate that they exercise their authority to provide this information to 294 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,880 the Congress. And if they don't, they can be put in prison, 295 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,319 you know. And and that's what they're worried about. Here. This this 296 00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:40,079 this statute has teeth in it. It has subpoena power. It has the 297 00:27:40,079 --> 00:27:45,359 power to exercise eminent domain to to if necessary, say military truths to them, 298 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:51,559 to their their company and seese if they've got the crash debris or an 299 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,279 intact UFO uh there that this can be seized by our United States military. 300 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:03,039 Now let me ask you this, playing devil's advocate for them, could they 301 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,319 say, oh, let's get into gear and let's bury this and let's get 302 00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:12,680 this, you know, away from us, somehow disjointed from our company and 303 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,200 by starting a new LLC or some other corporation or something like that, and 304 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,880 then putting all the information that they have on Let's just say they have a 305 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:29,200 crash uap, their reverse engineering it and then they could just push it all 306 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,440 over to this new founded company and not be able to you wouldn't be able 307 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,359 to get access to it because you were unaware of it. Is that a 308 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,079 possibility of something like that? Can they I've spent fifty years chasing down these 309 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,240 kind of bad guys. They've tried, Okay, there's a there's a book 310 00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:49,799 on this all. You know, they follow a particular a plan an mo 311 00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:53,400 where they try to hide stuff. And you know, the Justice Department is 312 00:28:53,519 --> 00:28:57,079 very adept at this. The whole Trump administration, for example, lying, 313 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,000 cheating, having double sets of books. People know how to pursue these people, 314 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,839 you know, down into their warrants. And that's what we're that's that's 315 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:11,319 what we're doing. The New Paradigm Institute actually exists for the purpose of seeing 316 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,400 to it that this statute, once it's passed, is actually enforced. You 317 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,880 know, we're there, we're an entree to the citizens groups around the country 318 00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:26,240 to mobilize them to make the Justice Department, uh, make the courts, 319 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,640 uh, make the President's office and everybody do their job. That's what we're 320 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:37,480 doing here. That our government is in a is in a serious uh shape 321 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:44,319 right now because such a growing percentage of the population distrust them that they don't 322 00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:47,960 believe that they're doing their job. You know, we've we've set up a 323 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,160 democracy and elected these people to do do the work for the people, and 324 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,960 they've been completely co opted by corporations now, I mean, and almost everybody 325 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:03,799 knows that. And to have them exercising that kind of control over our democratic 326 00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:10,039 government an issue that is as important as this to our people that everybody wants 327 00:30:10,079 --> 00:30:15,920 to know if in fact there's an extraterrestrial civilization. Everybody wants to know if 328 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,559 they're coming to our planet. Everybody wants to know if we have an opportunity 329 00:30:19,799 --> 00:30:30,480 to establish peaceful diplomatic relations with an entire extraterrestrial civilization that has the potential for 330 00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:33,960 assisting us, and they're not here to help us, you know, to 331 00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:37,759 save us from ourselves. But the fact of the matter is they may well 332 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,200 know the answers to a lot of important questions that our human family has been 333 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:47,279 struggling with for decades, in for centuries to try to figure out. In 334 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,240 these people, out of their own personal greed and avarice, are trying to 335 00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:57,079 conceal this from the American public in the world. A lot of times you 336 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:03,200 see in these movies, you know, these Sie movies, the dystopian future 337 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,319 that is run by corporations, and the corporations are controlling the masses, and 338 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,359 that's kind of you know, when I hear things like this, it kind 339 00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:15,680 of like saying, yeah, you know, in some ways, we are 340 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,039 you know, we are we head in that way because they have all the 341 00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:25,920 power of what they're doing right here. This particular situation is a good example 342 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,319 of that, where they can manipulate, you know, people in power in 343 00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:37,440 our government to change something on their behalf, which I think is totally terrible. 344 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:44,400 Well, the reason that the science fiction movies are projecting at because they 345 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,720 can see that that's what's happening. They can see you if you project into 346 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:53,240 the future, what the dynamics are that you can absolutely establish beyond any reasonable 347 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,680 doubt right now, you project that along the same algorithm into the future, 348 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:05,319 and that's exactly what you get. You get this complete corporate autocracy, you 349 00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:07,400 know, running the world, you know, and that we've got to stop 350 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,440 this thing, you know, and this this provides it. You know, 351 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,519 we had not intended to have this be a showdown, you know, and 352 00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:19,640 in which we were trying to, you know, take on the fundamental issue 353 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:24,599 of the corruption of our American political system through the corporations, you know. 354 00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:29,240 But if they want to throw down on this thing, you know that we 355 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:36,839 we have probably one of the biggest completely bipartisan coalitions in the history of the 356 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,480 country around this UFO thing that we've got, as I say, ninety nine 357 00:32:40,519 --> 00:32:45,240 percent the members of both political parties wanting to get this bill passed. And 358 00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:52,839 if we end up discovering that this this corruption has infected our government so seriously 359 00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:58,319 that they're going to try to conceal this secret from us and potentially threaten the 360 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:04,319 other members of Congress and threaten their families in order to protect their their personal 361 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,799 greed. You know, then this may well be the battleground where where a 362 00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:13,400 lot of these things are going to get resolved, because we aren't going to 363 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,960 stop. I mean, we're going to We're going to mobilize the people. 364 00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:21,240 We're going to share information with the people. We're going to help organize the 365 00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:25,839 people. We're going to focus on the congressional districts where these corporations have so 366 00:33:27,079 --> 00:33:35,079 corrupted the elected representative that they're betraying their their obligations to their people, you 367 00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:38,480 know, in betraying their obligations even to their positions in Congress. You know, 368 00:33:38,519 --> 00:33:43,799 you have the head of the Intelligence Committee taking a position that the Intelligence 369 00:33:43,839 --> 00:33:47,880 Committee should be denied access to this information. I mean, that's that's a 370 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:54,759 complete defiance of his responsibilities. Is the chair of the committee? I have 371 00:33:54,839 --> 00:33:59,519 a there's a long let me just post this question. There's a lot of 372 00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:04,119 people that I think I may want to call in. I'm not really sure. 373 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,519 This is a long time chat person here. He wants to know is 374 00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:15,079 it wrong for Congress to try to compel the government to disclose when it's distinct 375 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:21,079 it's distinctly possible that the ETS are forcing the government to cover it up on 376 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,360 pain of some terrible punishment to humanity. I don't know what you think about 377 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:29,039 that question, but what do you well, you know, no, I 378 00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:34,039 mean, uh, let me say this, it's totally unnecessary for the UFO 379 00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,480 people to try to, you know, make our corporations be corrupt. You 380 00:34:37,519 --> 00:34:43,119 know, they're they're completely capable of doing this completely on their own. And 381 00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:47,519 everybody knows that. You know, it doesn't require some esoteric theory as to 382 00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:52,280 the fact that the UFO people are behind this. You know, these corporations 383 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,320 have done this. I mean, you know, you've got you've got the 384 00:34:54,920 --> 00:35:02,039 oil corporations polluting the entire planet, threatening to destroy the entire life generating capacity 385 00:35:02,039 --> 00:35:06,440 of our planet, and yet they still won't stop, you know, and 386 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,000 you try, you try to bring this to the attention of the political representatives, 387 00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:15,119 and the oil corporations start spending you know, literally billions of dollars in 388 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:20,559 campaign contributions to the key people to stop them from you know, interfering with 389 00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:24,159 the profit seeking of the oil corporations. Uh. So that this is not 390 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:29,679 this is not unique to this particular issue. But it's just that this issue 391 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:34,760 is so profoundly important to so many people, and very importantly it is it 392 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:40,119 is completely nonpartisan. You know that we have we have organized a coalition of 393 00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:45,960 people that is completely bipartisan. It's under the point of being non partisan. 394 00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:49,480 Uh, to get this done, it's like trying to you know, prevent 395 00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:53,400 cancer, you know, or something. Yeah, and these people are blocking 396 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:58,159 us in there. In there, they've they've turned these guys, Mike Turner 397 00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:01,960 and Mike Rogers and Mike Johnson and Miss McConnell have turned them to the point 398 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:07,400 where they're betraying their country. They're betraying the Constitution, you know, they're 399 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:13,199 they're depriving the Congress of the United States of this information that that we need 400 00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:17,280 our representatives to have in order to govern. You know, they're just they're 401 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:24,360 ruining the possibility of developing a logical, rational, diplomatic relationship with an entire 402 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:30,559 extraterrestrial civilization. So for their for their own private gain, is what they're 403 00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:36,199 doing. Do you think there's uh, they're getting a lot of pushback, 404 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,480 these four people, you know, the three mics in the Mitch. Yes, 405 00:36:39,639 --> 00:36:43,280 do you think they're getting a lot of pushback? Yeah, they are. 406 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,159 They are getting a lot of pushback. They're getting push back. Do 407 00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:49,920 you hear about that? Yeah, Well, the bottom line is they're getting 408 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,960 pushedback from the people who actually possess a lot of the information. Uh, 409 00:36:53,039 --> 00:37:00,760 And they're being kept silent under threats of revoking their national skecurity clearances or punishing 410 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:06,320 them with criminal charges if they if they come public with what they've got. 411 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,719 But I can tell you the fact of the matter is, you know that. 412 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,679 You know, I've spent years, like, for example, uncovering the 413 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:19,079 fact that the Iran Contra, the Iran Contra Off the Shelf Enterprise was criminally 414 00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:23,599 smuggling cocaine into the United States and providing weapons to the Contras in complete defiance 415 00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:27,559 of Congress. You know, we were able to find that out, and 416 00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:30,559 we were able to get that information revealed. I've never agreed to accept a 417 00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:37,760 private a national security clearance. I'm perfectly capable of getting this information, and 418 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:43,320 I have every intention of making it public if they will not cooperate. You 419 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,119 know, we are offering them a compromise in this bill to set up a 420 00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:53,239 process whereby they can have a carefully controlled disclosure of this information to the American 421 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:58,199 people and to the world. You know, we're providing safeguards so that they 422 00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:05,519 can protect the sources by means of which they gained information. We're perfectly prepared 423 00:38:05,559 --> 00:38:09,159 to protect the genuine national security of the United States, you know, but 424 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,519 they're what they're doing is they're running a risk, just like happened in the 425 00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:15,800 Pentagon Papers case, which I was one of the main attorneys for the New 426 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,920 York Times in that case, you know, in the Whitney or Seymour, 427 00:38:21,039 --> 00:38:23,760 the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, who was representing 428 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:31,320 the Nixon administration. They absolutely refused to allow us to publish anything that was 429 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:37,280 in all forty seven volumes of those Pentagon papers. And they refuse to point 430 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,800 out to us what if anything in those papers. They were insisting, if 431 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,039 it was made public, would irrevocably damage the national security of the United States. 432 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:50,599 They refused to tell us what it is they were talking about. So 433 00:38:50,639 --> 00:38:57,079 what we did is we got all forty seven volumes published by the New York 434 00:38:57,119 --> 00:39:01,639 Times, and we now have the New York Times prepared to publish information that 435 00:39:01,679 --> 00:39:07,280 we bring to them. You know, from deep inside these structures, we 436 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,840 can bring the information to the New York Times. We can bring the information 437 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:15,360 to sixty minutes, we can bring the information to the Internet, and we 438 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,800 can make it public. And if they don't want to have a sound and 439 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:27,599 responsible methodology by means of which the information can be vetted carefully and the important 440 00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:32,159 information that they can convince us ought to be kept secret, if they refuse 441 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:37,480 to do that, then they're going to pay the consequences for it, you 442 00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:40,199 know. And I can assure them that I will do everything in my power 443 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,800 to make sure they do, you know. And I'm going to do everything 444 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,639 I do make sure that these people, these criminals, you know, go 445 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:53,960 to jail for what they're doing. We're offering them amnesty, we've offered in 446 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:59,480 the other parts of the legislation. We've offered amnesty to them. We've offered 447 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:06,280 to to allow them to come forward and provide the information to Congress and have 448 00:40:06,559 --> 00:40:12,760 Congress exercise a responsible judgment about how much of this information should be released to 449 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,119 the public and pursue it to what kind of a schedule, you know. 450 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:20,119 But they're still refusing to do it. They won't even allow that to be 451 00:40:20,199 --> 00:40:23,119 done. So, I mean, you know that they better they better be 452 00:40:23,159 --> 00:40:29,320 careful about what they're doing here. Because you know, I've spent fifty years 453 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,280 in doing this. I've been involved in publishing the Pentagon papers. I've been 454 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:38,599 involved in exposing the Office Shelf Enterprise of the Iran Contra Committee people. You 455 00:40:38,639 --> 00:40:45,920 know, we've exposed the fact that the Kermagee Nuclear Corporation was providing ninety eight 456 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,400 percent bomb grade plutonium to Israel and to Iran at the same time. We've 457 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,920 done this down through the fifty years. They should realize that this is not 458 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,679 a hollow threat that I'm making here. You know, this is this is 459 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:02,840 an absolute promise that we will do this if they won't cooperate. Wow. 460 00:41:04,159 --> 00:41:10,199 Well, I'm really glad you're on our side. This the one thing you 461 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,119 mentioned a couple of things about what can be secret what can be let out. 462 00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:17,400 Now, I truly think now may be wrong. You can tell me 463 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:22,760 if I am. But I really think they're you're going to use the umbrella 464 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:29,039 of national security a lot in this situation to be able to keep things from 465 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,159 the public. I understand part of that, certainly when it comes down to, 466 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:37,079 you know, things that would affect national security. But do you think 467 00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:40,639 that's what they're going to try to protect everything with? Well, but you'll 468 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:45,960 you'll notice that you'll, if you'll forgive me for station, you'll notice that 469 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:50,159 you don't know what you're talking about, that you can't even give an example 470 00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:52,360 of what you're talking about. And they don't either. They say, oh, 471 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,639 well, you know, there's something awful could happen here. You could 472 00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:58,800 really I say, like, what, like, what are we talking about 473 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,440 here? You know? And they go, well, you know, I 474 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:06,519 can't tell you because it's so threatening and so terrible, and they are lying 475 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,760 seabags. They've lied openly about this over and over again. They lied about 476 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,599 it in the Pentagon papers, they lied about it in ir on contract. 477 00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:17,719 I mean, Oliver North got right up in front of the Congress said absolutely, 478 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:22,320 I lied to you, you know. I mean this was a you 479 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:27,519 know, I couldn't tell you. And so I mean that we've established a 480 00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:31,000 national security state here since the National Security Act of nineteen forty seven, in 481 00:42:31,039 --> 00:42:37,000 which they feel completely authorized to lie to Congress and to lie to the world, 482 00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:40,639 you know. And it's turned out that over and over and over again, 483 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:45,199 it's on behalf of corruption. And what they've done is they have devoted 484 00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:50,360 themselves. And it says so if people go and look at the nineteen ninety 485 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:55,039 two United States Defense Department Policy Planning Guidance document. They was prepared by Dick 486 00:42:55,159 --> 00:43:00,280 Cheney, you know, in as the Secretary of Defense for George Bush Senior. 487 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:06,800 Uh and you know Paul Wolfowitz and uh and uh uh there was a 488 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,239 Scooter Libby was in on it. Doug Fiffe was in on it. There's 489 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:15,239 particular people I know exactly who they are. They they drafted a proposal for 490 00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:21,760 maintaining the size of their military budget even though the Soviet Union had officially agreed 491 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,280 to step out of the Cold War and step back and dissolve the Soviet Union. 492 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:32,119 And they were so frightened about losing their government contracts for military equipment that 493 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:37,360 they designed a program for it and openly stated in the classified document that their 494 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:45,639 objective was to maintain the continued privileged access to the strategic raw materials that were 495 00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:49,719 needed by our American industry. You know, I mean they said it. 496 00:43:50,119 --> 00:43:52,079 You know, it's a document, so we know what it is that they're 497 00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:57,480 up to here, uh, and that you know that we do not want 498 00:43:57,559 --> 00:44:01,480 to pull down the pillars of the state, you know, in order to 499 00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:07,599 get them off their pedestal. But if they insist upon this, we will 500 00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:12,760 in fact pull them down, you know, uh, And we don't want 501 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,760 to have to do that. We're doing everything that we can reasonably do to 502 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:23,599 to try to establish a reasonable, controlled disclosure of this information. But you 503 00:44:23,639 --> 00:44:28,360 know that if they if they don't leave us any choice at all, and 504 00:44:28,679 --> 00:44:30,800 it's going to come to a point where it's going to be too late for 505 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,960 them when they come back and say, please, please stop. You know, 506 00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:37,480 you're you're really probing into things where you know that something terrible is going 507 00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:40,840 to happen. Well, that something terrible that they think is going to happen 508 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,840 is they're going to lose their power. They're going to lose their monopoly power 509 00:44:46,639 --> 00:44:51,239 over the sources of energy, you know, over the control of Congress. 510 00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:54,800 You know, if this information comes out and that they can either do this 511 00:44:54,920 --> 00:45:00,039 in a in a gradual, in responsible way, or it be you know, 512 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:07,119 unfortunate for them. What can I do as an American or anyone that's 513 00:45:07,519 --> 00:45:12,880 listening to the show right now, as an American? What what can we 514 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,039 do to help this process to make sure that this thing doesn't get killed or 515 00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:22,199 try to attempt to stop it from getting killed. It's very simple it's very 516 00:45:22,199 --> 00:45:25,880 simple. UH. You can. You can go on to the New Paradigm 517 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:31,480 Institute website and you can you can find the information that tells you exactly who 518 00:45:31,519 --> 00:45:37,159 your two United States Senators are, exactly who your congressional representative is. UH, 519 00:45:37,199 --> 00:45:42,000 and also find on that website the names of the people that are in 520 00:45:42,119 --> 00:45:45,239 charge of these special committees. You know. And what you do is you 521 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:51,039 send out every form of communication that you can. You telephone them, you 522 00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:57,039 send them emails, you send you send them letters. You know, you 523 00:45:57,079 --> 00:46:02,639 go to their offices and tell them that you want the Schumer Amendment, which 524 00:46:02,679 --> 00:46:08,119 is the UFO basically Controlled Disclosure Act. You want this thing passed, and 525 00:46:08,159 --> 00:46:12,880 you want it passed intact. You know the way that it is now along 526 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,800 with the subpoena power, along with the authority that it has to to exercise 527 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:23,960 eminent domain to retrieve any type of technology that's been taken by these aerospace industries 528 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:29,599 and trying to privatize it. You know that these that this has to be 529 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:35,960 left intact. And that's just just contact both of your senators and your congressional 530 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:44,199 representative from your district and tell them that you insist that they maintain the Schumer 531 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:49,519 Act in the National Defense Authorization Act. You know, it's it's a simple 532 00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:52,519 it's a simple proposition. What I'm really saying is that you have to actually 533 00:46:53,159 --> 00:47:00,320 be a citizen, yes, a stop being just a spectator, you know, 534 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,880 standing back watching wondering what's going to happen here, you know, get 535 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,760 on the telephones, you know, send out the emails, and just swamp 536 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:15,360 these guys with the demand that they passed the past the Schumer Amendment period and 537 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:22,800 what type of we're under a deadline here is this is timely right, We're 538 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,159 talking this this Moncember twenty first, December twenty first, you know, they're 539 00:47:27,159 --> 00:47:30,800 going to vote on this, you know, in that you know, so 540 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,599 we we've got here, you know, twenty twenty five days or so, 541 00:47:35,559 --> 00:47:38,320 you know, within which we've got to be able to push back against Mike 542 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:45,400 Turner and Mike Rodgers and Michael Johnson and Mitch McConnell specifically, these four people, 543 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:50,719 you know, who are on the take from the aerospace industry, and 544 00:47:51,199 --> 00:47:54,119 we've got to we've got to push back against them. And what we have 545 00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:59,320 to do is we have to instigate a revolt on the part of the people 546 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:04,119 that are in the Senate and House Conference Committee, and a revolt on the 547 00:48:04,159 --> 00:48:07,639 part of the people, of the majority of the people that are members of 548 00:48:07,679 --> 00:48:12,840 the House Intelligence Committee, in the House Armed Services Committee, revolt against their 549 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,440 leadership. You know that these leaders that are there are the ones that have 550 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:21,599 been targeted by the aerospace industry to bribe them, you know, And so 551 00:48:21,639 --> 00:48:29,320 that we have to have an insurrection, a constitutional insurrection against this, this 552 00:48:29,519 --> 00:48:36,760 corrupt leadership, and it's manifesting itself most especially in the House of Representatives right 553 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,039 now. But everybody knows that, everybody knows that the House of Representatives are 554 00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:46,239 in total disarray right now. They can't even they can't even legitimately pick a 555 00:48:46,639 --> 00:48:50,760 Speaker of the House. You know. They've got this guy, Mike Johnson, 556 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,320 who's a I mean, look at everybody, just a study who Michael 557 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:59,679 Johnson is. He's he's a complete fundamentalist moron, you know. And there 558 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,440 he is in charge of this in charge of the House of Representatives, you 559 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:07,599 know, and he's using that power right now to block the American people from 560 00:49:07,639 --> 00:49:14,119 being able to find out that we're in possession of a number of UFOs and 561 00:49:14,159 --> 00:49:21,920 that we're secretly this deep state is deeply involved in trying to back engineer this 562 00:49:22,039 --> 00:49:28,599 technology to make a weapons system out of it, to establish full spectrum dominance 563 00:49:28,679 --> 00:49:31,360 over the planet. You know, And it's our opinion that there's only a 564 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:37,159 minority of people in our country who agree with that. You know, most 565 00:49:37,159 --> 00:49:43,519 of them are in the aerospace industry. Now, when you say something like 566 00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:49,239 this, do you actually have any evidence is that they are actually trying to 567 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:53,599 back engineer for weaponry or is this typically what the Defense Department would do? 568 00:49:54,039 --> 00:49:58,519 I think it is because the atom bomb, they split the atom, and 569 00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:02,679 first thing they think of as how to kill people. So, but I 570 00:50:02,679 --> 00:50:07,039 mean, is this speculation or do you have some type of evidence that there 571 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,719 might be a weapon? No, it's perfectly clear because the the actual effort 572 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:20,199 to deal with this issue was inside the Advanced Weapons Special Access Program. I 573 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,440 mean, that's where they're hiding it, you know. So it's all for 574 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:29,840 all for the attempt to develop an advanced weapons system. That's that's what they're 575 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,360 doing. It's a function of the national security state, you know, that 576 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:38,719 is you know, we we've got we've got an annual military budget that is 577 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:46,559 exceeds that of the other top ten nations in the world. Combined, you 578 00:50:46,599 --> 00:50:52,199 know, and and and they still keep trying to buffalo over everybody into thinking 579 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,199 that this is for defense purposes, you know. And yet you know, 580 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,960 we're we're you know, over in the over in the Ukraine, you know 581 00:51:00,199 --> 00:51:04,599 where you're we're sending billions of dollars of military equipment to bomb the crap out 582 00:51:04,639 --> 00:51:07,000 of the Gaza Strip. Now, you know, we're we're invading the Middle 583 00:51:07,039 --> 00:51:12,840 Eastern oil fields. We've got military troops that we sent to Afghanistan, We've 584 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,159 sent them to you know, to We've you know, supported military dictators all 585 00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:21,760 through South America, you know, that have been torturing you know, their 586 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,440 people, you know, I mean, the time has come that we've got 587 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:30,199 to come to grips with what's going on here, uh in that that these 588 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:38,480 people are now threatening to keep secret the fact that there's an extraterrestrial civilization surrounding 589 00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:46,800 us in and open to us participating in an entire galactic civilization, you know, 590 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:54,960 in there trying they're so priva. I have some you know island in 591 00:51:55,119 --> 00:52:01,519 the middle of Pacific, you know. Nope, So yeah, okay, 592 00:52:01,559 --> 00:52:08,400 you're Internet, Yes, I'm back, but I'm back. You're you know, 593 00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:13,280 really the people have to really decide whether they're ready to go to the 594 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,639 mats, you know, to get this information. Uh and and you know 595 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:21,320 that I think they are. And I'm going to do my very best, 596 00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:27,000 based on fifty years of working in this area, to to educate the American 597 00:52:27,039 --> 00:52:30,679 people, to let them know exactly what this bill is offering, to do 598 00:52:30,519 --> 00:52:36,360 educate the people as to what the whistleblowers are saying, you know, and 599 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:43,639 also to exercise whatever access I have to these potential whistleblowers to offer them a 600 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:50,760 pro bono legal representation to have them come forward and provide the information to the 601 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,320 United States Senate Intelligence Committee. You know, that's where the impetus is coming 602 00:52:54,360 --> 00:53:00,519 from, is coming out of the Senate Intelligence Committee with Senator Rubio and Senator 603 00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:06,400 Warner and other people that are in that that committee saying this is outrageous that 604 00:53:06,519 --> 00:53:12,440 the Senate Intelligence Committee doesn't have this information in order to make policy decisions for 605 00:53:12,519 --> 00:53:19,920 our country. You know. It's it's an absolute total constitutional crime that is 606 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,239 being perpetrated here and we and we as citizens have to stand up for the 607 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:30,280 constitution and protect ourselves. Yeah, I'm going to bring up something right here. 608 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,840 I know you have I'm sure you have seen this. This came out. 609 00:53:36,199 --> 00:53:39,679 Oops, let's see. Okay, I didn't set up this computer to 610 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:47,039 do it, but I'm sure you Let's see if it works. Hang on 611 00:53:47,159 --> 00:53:57,400 just a second here, Okay, I don't know if that's going to work 612 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,480 or not. Okay, I'll work on this, slave. But this article 613 00:54:00,519 --> 00:54:08,920 came out from the Daily Whep you there, yep. I don't know if 614 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:14,519 you can hear me, Daniel Danny. This article came out from the Daily 615 00:54:14,599 --> 00:54:17,840 Mail. I'm not sure if you saw it here it is okay, it's 616 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:22,599 actually showing on the screen, that's yeah, So I know again, you 617 00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:29,440 know, unfortunately they can't name any you know, people, which is unfortunate, 618 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,519 and I know that's what a lot of people are complaining about. You 619 00:54:31,519 --> 00:54:35,760 know, we don't have any of the names. How can we be so 620 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:42,559 sure and all that. But anyway, I think that this, the timing 621 00:54:42,639 --> 00:54:47,880 of this thing coming out is kind of interesting, when this whole situation is 622 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:52,199 going on and this just happened to come out, you know, at the 623 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,800 same time. Yeah, well, Josh, you know, I've given a 624 00:54:54,840 --> 00:55:00,400 long interview to Josh Boswell, you know, just the other day, and 625 00:55:01,199 --> 00:55:08,559 we're all working together constitutionally and lawfully to try to bring this information to the 626 00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:13,199 American public. You know. And as I say that we are going to 627 00:55:13,199 --> 00:55:16,559 stop, I mean we're going to keep rolling this information out and we're going 628 00:55:16,599 --> 00:55:21,320 to become more and more intense. There's going to be more and more details 629 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,760 provided, and we're eventually going to get to the point where we are going 630 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:28,920 to be naming the names of these people. You know. I mean that 631 00:55:29,039 --> 00:55:36,880 we're trying to act responsibly and entirely constitutionally. You know, that we need 632 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,039 to make it clear to the American citizens that we are the good guys. 633 00:55:40,679 --> 00:55:45,719 We are the people that support the American constitution. We are the people that 634 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:51,840 support getting information to our elected representatives that there is this criminal syndicate that is 635 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,400 on the other side of this. And I'm not trying to get people, 636 00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,880 you know, revved up to the point where they're going to hate them or 637 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,199 you know, egg them out of their offices and throw them in the street. 638 00:56:02,599 --> 00:56:06,159 You know, I'm just saying that what we have to rise up and 639 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:12,079 mobilize all of our affirmative support for getting this stuff passed and make sure that 640 00:56:12,119 --> 00:56:15,760 our government is working for us, you know, or we're going to start 641 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:20,519 replacing these representatives. That's what we're going to have to do. Now, 642 00:56:20,599 --> 00:56:23,880 I've just got permission from the radio station that i can go another twenty two 643 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:29,159 minutes or is twenty three minutes something like that or twenty minutes, and which 644 00:56:29,199 --> 00:56:30,280 i'd like to do, if you're okay with that. And I wondered if 645 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:36,320 you'd be willing to take a couple of phone calls from people I'd like. 646 00:56:36,639 --> 00:56:38,599 I'd like, Yeah, So if you're going to call in, the number 647 00:56:38,639 --> 00:56:44,079 is eight five five four seven two five four eight three, and please make 648 00:56:44,159 --> 00:56:49,760 it a question about what Danny is talking about tonight, and not you know, 649 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,199 about anything like a sighting or anything like that has to be related to 650 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:58,719 what we're talking about. And so Chanel is standing by and can take your 651 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,239 call. And that number again, it's up on the screen eight five five 652 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,760 four seven two five four eight three. Haven't been able to look at chat 653 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,960 too much, so let me ask you this, Danny, is there any 654 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:15,719 publications out there right now that is actually putting out there? I don't care 655 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:21,159 if it's online or in print. The fact that these people in question, 656 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:27,480 the three Mics and the Mitchell are all Mitch are all. Uh, you 657 00:57:27,519 --> 00:57:31,599 know, have these funds coming to them for campaign contributions? Is it out 658 00:57:31,599 --> 00:57:37,199 there? Yeah? You get you there, there's the American Almanac of Politics. 659 00:57:37,559 --> 00:57:39,079 You see where is it? Let me get let me show you a 660 00:57:39,079 --> 00:57:49,320 copy of this. It's never too far away for me. Here it is 661 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:55,840 right here. See the things called the American the Almanac of American Politics. 662 00:57:57,119 --> 00:58:02,039 Okay. And you can get a copy of it, you can, uh, 663 00:58:02,519 --> 00:58:07,679 you can pull it up on the internet. Uh. And what it 664 00:58:07,719 --> 00:58:12,679 does is that it covers every single person who is is a member of Congress. 665 00:58:13,199 --> 00:58:15,800 Uh, and it tells who their primary funders are. I mean, 666 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:22,159 they're unabashed about it, you know. I mean that for example, with 667 00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:30,079 with Mike Mike Rogers, that Lockey Martin is there overwhelming his overwhelming financier, 668 00:58:30,719 --> 00:58:35,159 you know. And uh and his district is right down next to the Redstone 669 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,880 Rocket Missile Range, you know, where where they're they're trying to develop a 670 00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:46,440 you know, a a technology based on the UFO technology too, to design 671 00:58:46,719 --> 00:58:52,400 missiles that that go you know, so fast, that that the Soviet Union 672 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,920 cannot mount any kind of a defense against them. You know, for what 673 00:58:57,079 --> 00:59:00,599 for what purpose? I mean, for what purpose? This is you know, 674 00:59:00,239 --> 00:59:05,079 at the same time the administration is you know, they're they're actually militarily 675 00:59:05,119 --> 00:59:12,800 supporting like trench warfare going on in the along the eastern boundary of the Ukraine. 676 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,760 I mean, it looks like World War One. I mean they've got 677 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,079 you know, mine fields up and barbed wire up and stuff. I mean, 678 00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:22,719 how ridiculous is this getting to be here? You know, the American 679 00:59:22,719 --> 00:59:27,880 people have to have to stand up and take our government back from these people. 680 00:59:28,719 --> 00:59:30,440 You know, this is this is ridiculous. So I'm saying that that's 681 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:36,159 you go to the Almanac of American Politics and you'll find out who their major 682 00:59:36,199 --> 00:59:39,280 funders are. You'll find out how much was spent on their their last election, 683 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,239 you know. And some of these some of these guys, they they 684 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:47,360 win their election in these red districts by you know, sixty five to sixty 685 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:52,079 five to seventy percent, and yet they still have budgets of your like, 686 00:59:52,119 --> 00:59:57,599 you know, six or eight million dollars they're taking in contributions to pay for 687 00:59:57,639 --> 01:00:00,840 their elections, you know, in their their win their elections by thirty to 688 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:06,039 forty points. You know, it's just it's just the bribery, is what's 689 01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:09,840 going on. We got a couple of calls right now, we have line 690 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:15,400 one. We have William calling from Florida. William, Oops, what did 691 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:21,559 I do with Let's see there we go, William. Welcome to the show. 692 01:00:23,239 --> 01:00:29,599 William, can you hear us? Okay, Chanel, I'm not hearing 693 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:37,800 William. Oh well, I'm not sure if that's going to work or not. 694 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:46,519 William, can you hear us? So? How about now? Okay? 695 01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:52,599 Chanelle is working behind the scenes feverishly to try to get this to work. 696 01:00:57,079 --> 01:01:00,880 Oh well, I guess we'll wait to see if we hear We have 697 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:06,079 a couple of callers. William, when you're there, just speak out. 698 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:12,719 This may be they were working earlier live radio. What can you do? 699 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:19,440 Right? All right, we're not hearing anything, so I'm going to drop 700 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:29,280 the call for right now. Unless we start hearing something. All right, 701 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:30,760 well, we may try it later. We'll see how it goes. And 702 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:40,280 Chanell, hello, William are you there? William? Okay, Chanelle, 703 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:45,880 it's not going to work. I guess, sorry about that again. I 704 01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:52,480 apologize to the listener. And let's drop this out. And so we've got 705 01:01:52,519 --> 01:02:01,000 about fifteen minutes, so you know the things that you're saying that. Okay. 706 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,880 You know, there's a there's really nothing that anyone can do about this. 707 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:12,599 You can hear me, right, I can hear you? Yeah, 708 01:02:12,679 --> 01:02:17,920 okay, wow, okay, so this is just you and me. Yeah, 709 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,639 can hear us? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, okay. Uh the 710 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:29,119 producer saying she can't hear or see me, So I'm not sure what that's 711 01:02:29,639 --> 01:02:32,280 that's about, but you can, right, yes, I can. Okay, 712 01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,239 So Chanelle, if you can hear us. We're not hearing the phone 713 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:43,920 line unless I hear someone, now, okay, all right, I'm gonna 714 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,519 drop the phone out and I apologize everyone. I apologize to the people that 715 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:51,559 tried to call in, and we'll be uh, they'll be working on that 716 01:02:51,639 --> 01:02:55,800 at kg R A Radio try to fix that. So can anyone? Is 717 01:02:55,840 --> 01:03:00,199 there anything someone can do from outside the US, and they really can't, 718 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:06,000 right. Well, one of the things that we're doing at the New Paradigm 719 01:03:06,039 --> 01:03:08,119 Institute, you know, which is based in Washington, d C. You 720 01:03:08,119 --> 01:03:12,760 know, we have we have offices right on Capitol Hill. I mean, 721 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:19,199 we are the only civilian group that is authorized to have offices inside the federal 722 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,639 enclave, you know, on Capitol Hill. So I mean we are we 723 01:03:22,679 --> 01:03:24,800 are perfectly situated. You know, I spent twenty years there in Washington, 724 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:29,199 d C. You know, I was the General Council of the United States 725 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:34,599 Jesuit Order in their National Social Ministry office that dealt with public policy issues there. 726 01:03:35,039 --> 01:03:37,719 Uh. And so that we have been given permission to be on Capitol 727 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:44,800 Hill to be able to provide information to the Intelligence Committees and to the Armed 728 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:51,079 Services Committees, and to the the House Oversight Committee and others to enable them 729 01:03:51,119 --> 01:03:58,039 to maintain this type of a nonpartisan, bipartisan support for this bill. That 730 01:03:58,079 --> 01:04:01,519 because we think, we think this is an extraordinarily important opportunity to try to 731 01:04:01,559 --> 01:04:06,880 get past some of this extraordinary tribalism that's going on here. You know, 732 01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:12,039 of every single issue that comes up having to have a Republican position in a 733 01:04:12,039 --> 01:04:15,719 Democratic position, the red team against the blue team. Yeah, this completely 734 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:23,239 dysfunctional. What we're saying is, look at this issue is so nonpartisan and 735 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:29,480 so bipartisan that we have been trying to present an opportunity to our political parties 736 01:04:29,519 --> 01:04:34,199 and to our government to come back together again to support this. You know, 737 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:39,960 as a President Nixon said in a slightly different context at the UN he 738 01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,800 said, you know that the most important thing that could possibly bring all of 739 01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:48,920 our people together is to realize that there's an extraterrestrial civilization here, you know, 740 01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:53,840 and that we are human who are all human beings on this planet. 741 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:58,920 You know, we all live on a planet that is a rare planet that 742 01:04:59,079 --> 01:05:02,679 is able to just state life, and that for that reason, it's attracted 743 01:05:02,719 --> 01:05:09,079 a lot of attention inside the galaxy and we need to preserve it. In 744 01:05:09,199 --> 01:05:13,960 fact of the matter is in a substantial plurality of the instances where people say 745 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:19,000 that they've actually had any direct person to person contact with the occupants of the 746 01:05:19,079 --> 01:05:24,559 UFO vehicles that there are two things that they keep saying over and over again. 747 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,760 Number One, you've got to get rid of your nuclear weapons programs, 748 01:05:29,599 --> 01:05:35,239 that they're threatening the entire destruction of your planet and to poison the life giving 749 01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:41,880 capacities of your planet. And secondly, you've got to stop polluting your planet 750 01:05:42,119 --> 01:05:47,599 with petroleum. You know that you're polluting your planet and contaminating it, you 751 01:05:47,639 --> 01:05:51,559 know, and you're going to ruin the entire climactic system of your planet. 752 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,639 You know. These are two things that they say over and over and over 753 01:05:55,639 --> 01:05:58,920 again. People keep saying, why aren't they down here helping us, Why 754 01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,119 don't they Why don't they give us an alternative source of energy? You know, 755 01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:09,440 what they're saying is that you know that they're trying to help without intervening 756 01:06:10,159 --> 01:06:15,199 in our in our our whole evolution here. You know. Now, I 757 01:06:15,199 --> 01:06:18,960 don't want to go wildly speculating, and I have never wildly speculated about what 758 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:24,719 all their motives are or why they don't reveal themselves more directly, or why 759 01:06:24,719 --> 01:06:29,559 don't they, you know, give us direct access to some technology that would 760 01:06:29,639 --> 01:06:32,239 provide clean energy for our planet. You know, I don't I don't know 761 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,920 what the answers of those questions are, but I do know that if we're 762 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:41,239 going to get the answer to these questions, we have to have our elected 763 01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:46,920 representatives put into possession of the information about them, you know, and that 764 01:06:47,079 --> 01:06:56,639 is being is being squirreled away by these private corporations in relationship to some weird 765 01:06:57,199 --> 01:07:02,719 deep state you know operation that's going on here that was created apparently in nineteen 766 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:10,360 forty seven, right after roswell by President Truman. That he apparently appointed a 767 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:16,000 group of people made up of American business people and bankers and some military officials 768 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:25,159 and intelligence officials to the point where they where they have basically captured the governing 769 01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:29,280 power of our country, you know, with regard to this important issue, 770 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:33,719 and you can bet other issues as well. And so what we're proposing is 771 01:07:33,719 --> 01:07:39,679 that this opportunity of the people who are so interested in trying to find out 772 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,760 the answer to one of the most important and most profound questions that face our 773 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:48,119 entire human family as a species, that this ought to mobilize us and motivate 774 01:07:48,239 --> 01:07:55,320 us to try to cure this problem of corporate corruption that we have on our 775 01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:59,760 planet right now that we've got to take we've got to take control back of 776 01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,559 our governing structures, and we ought to do it in the context of getting 777 01:08:02,599 --> 01:08:09,679 access to this information. We have to demonstrate that we're worthy of participating in 778 01:08:09,719 --> 01:08:14,800 a peaceful way with our neighbors in our galaxy. You know, if we're 779 01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:18,079 going to get access to figuring out how to come and go from their cultures 780 01:08:18,119 --> 01:08:21,680 to learn from their cultures what might be a benefit to us, you know, 781 01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:27,039 we're going to have to demonstrate a responsible willingness on the part of our 782 01:08:27,079 --> 01:08:32,319 citizenry to stand up to these corporate forces on our planet and take back our 783 01:08:32,399 --> 01:08:39,920 constitutional authority to govern ourselves. That's what this is all about. Well, 784 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:44,039 I've just heard from Chanelle. She wants to try to call her again. 785 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,199 So here it goes. We'll see what happens, all right, So we 786 01:08:48,359 --> 01:08:54,119 have I think it was from boy William from Florida. Can you hear me? 787 01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,279 Yes? I can hear you can. Yes, it's working. Yes, 788 01:09:00,039 --> 01:09:03,720 Yeah, you have a question for our guests. Yeah I do, 789 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:09,600 Danny. I've been a long follower of you. I support your endeavors one 790 01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:15,279 hundred percent. I'll just tell you from personal experience, and I think that's 791 01:09:15,279 --> 01:09:17,399 the best I can. Way I can say it is that way too much 792 01:09:17,399 --> 01:09:23,000 information is overclassified. That's a fact. Yeah right, I know that a 793 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:27,079 lot of other people know that. But here's my question to you. What 794 01:09:27,159 --> 01:09:31,800 do you think should be made public that the public has the right to know 795 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:41,399 because it's such public significance, versus what should be kept private. Well let 796 01:09:41,399 --> 01:09:44,840 me answer the first part of that first. You know, I think that 797 01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:54,319 that clearly we should be informed that there is an extraterrestrial civilization here in our 798 01:09:54,359 --> 01:10:01,880 galaxy, that there are as many as five million other highly intelligent, highly 799 01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:10,680 technologically developed, but non human species in our galaxy that we need to be 800 01:10:11,039 --> 01:10:15,880 informed about that. We need to know how many of them have have developed 801 01:10:15,399 --> 01:10:20,800 InterPlaNet interstellar space travel, how many of them have come to our planet. 802 01:10:21,399 --> 01:10:27,199 Uh, what, if anything, their agenda might be with regard to our 803 01:10:27,239 --> 01:10:31,079 planet. You know, what steps can be taken by our citizenry to establish 804 01:10:31,119 --> 01:10:40,600 a peaceful and productive, in cooperative relationship with the members of this extraterrestrial civilization. 805 01:10:41,239 --> 01:10:46,800 You know what, what can what can we do to preserve our own 806 01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:58,079 integrity, our own sovereignty, our own agency over our own civilization and still 807 01:10:58,119 --> 01:11:04,560 become a cooperating participant in this extraterrestrial civilization. You know, these are things 808 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:09,680 that we need to know and we need to have conversation about these things. 809 01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:15,680 And the problem is is that until such time as the people are notified by 810 01:11:15,079 --> 01:11:21,359 authoritative sources that this is the fact, people are going to continue to not 811 01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:26,039 pay attention to it. They're going to keep on thinking, well, you 812 01:11:26,079 --> 01:11:30,159 know, we don't know for sure whether it's true or not. But the 813 01:11:30,199 --> 01:11:32,920 fact is, eighty percent of the people in the country are convinced that UFOs 814 01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:36,560 are real. You know, eighty percent of the people believe they're extraterrestrial. 815 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:43,600 You know, but they until such time as our elected representatives are willing to 816 01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,600 come forward and share this information with us, people are going to spend their 817 01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:51,079 time, you know, focusing on much more short term objectives that they have 818 01:11:51,239 --> 01:11:57,920 in their lives and that we need to prepare for this. We we we 819 01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:02,880 do not want to be shocked and stunned by the revelation of the fact that 820 01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:09,680 there's such another civilization here by them having to kind of intervene in some way 821 01:12:10,399 --> 01:12:15,960 to protect our planet from being destroyed by a thermonuclear war by ourselves, and 822 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:19,359 that we don't want to have them have to intervene to stop us from destroying 823 01:12:19,359 --> 01:12:26,119 our planet with global climate change by being attached to one particular form of generating 824 01:12:26,119 --> 01:12:31,079 our electrical energy. You know, we don't want to have such an intervention 825 01:12:31,359 --> 01:12:38,640 be necessary. So we need to have the information that is going to adequately 826 01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:43,239 convince the overwhelming majority of our people that this is true. So that's the 827 01:12:43,279 --> 01:12:45,680 answer to the first part of your questions, what are some of the things 828 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:49,760 that need to definitely be communicated to our people. The second part of your 829 01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:54,000 question is, you know what kind of things might need to be secret. 830 01:12:54,239 --> 01:12:58,399 You know, we have identified in this bill here some of the things we 831 01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:02,319 don't need to know the name means of a particular official, you know, 832 01:13:02,399 --> 01:13:09,520 who has been guilty of destroying the lives of other people. You know, 833 01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,800 we don't need to know the names of it. We don't have to, 834 01:13:12,079 --> 01:13:15,199 you know, extract a pound of flesh from the people who've been involved in 835 01:13:15,239 --> 01:13:19,760 this covert operation to keep this secret all this time. A substantial majority of 836 01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:23,680 them we're dead now, you know. It's been going on for seventy five 837 01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:27,880 years. But there are people, without any doubt at all, there are 838 01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:33,159 people that are alive today who have committed crimes in order to try to protect 839 01:13:33,159 --> 01:13:38,359 this information and keep it secret so that other people can make you know, 840 01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:45,039 gross private profits off of the effort to back engineer this stuff. And they 841 01:13:45,079 --> 01:13:49,279 are guilty, as I pointed out, of being a federal criminal racketeering enterprise. 842 01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:55,000 You know, it meets all the criteria for this, you know. 843 01:13:55,039 --> 01:13:59,600 And we prosecuted the off the shelf enterprise of the of Oliver North and his 844 01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,840 people, you know, and we we sustained it with a special prosecutor getting 845 01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:08,439 appointed. You know, he filed the criminal charges against them, asserting that 846 01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:13,439 they were engaged in the very criminal racketeering enterprise that we identified, you know, 847 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,960 and g Robert Blakey, who is the one who was the chief counsel 848 01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:21,960 for the Senate Judiciary committee that drafted the Federal Criminal Racketeering Act. You know, 849 01:14:23,039 --> 01:14:29,319 he said that that was the most effectively pleaded criminal rico statute case he'd 850 01:14:29,359 --> 01:14:33,399 ever seen. So we're perfectly capable of doing that, of laying out the 851 01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:39,039 details, you know, as a special prosecutor of these people, and we 852 01:14:39,119 --> 01:14:44,880 will insist upon doing that if they continue to push back against our being able 853 01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:53,239 to mobilize our political representatives to take constitutional action to protect ourselves in this information 854 01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,239 and get it to us, you know, if they if they're going to 855 01:14:56,279 --> 01:14:59,199 force us to do this, you know, we will have to get an 856 01:14:59,239 --> 01:15:02,920 administration into power, you know, in twenty and twenty eight. You know, 857 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,720 it's it's a too short a term now to deal with it in the 858 01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:12,000 twenty twenty four election, you know, which is threatening mayhem in itself coming 859 01:15:12,079 --> 01:15:15,399 up. But in twenty twenty eight, we're going to start working right from 860 01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:20,720 if they don't allow this statute to be inserted in past into law in the 861 01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:27,800 National Defense Authorization Act here in December, we're going to mount a five year 862 01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:33,159 campaign that is going to culminate in twenty twenty eight and putting in a new 863 01:15:33,199 --> 01:15:36,960 administration, because there's going to be a new administration in any event. Even 864 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:44,319 if if Biden wins in twenty twenty four, you know, or if Trump 865 01:15:44,359 --> 01:15:46,399 were to win, he's already served a term that neither one of them can 866 01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,520 serve more than another term. So we know that there's going to be a 867 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:55,159 new administration in power in twenty twenty eight. What we're going to do is 868 01:15:55,319 --> 01:16:00,199 mobilize our American people and put an administration into power into twenty twenty eight, 869 01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,159 not only in control of the White House, but in control of the Senate 870 01:16:03,239 --> 01:16:08,079 and in control of the House of Representatives that are going to make this information 871 01:16:08,239 --> 01:16:12,920 public, Okay, and that that's what we're going to do. Now. 872 01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,720 The question that you ask is to what might be some of the things that 873 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:19,319 shouldn't be revealed. As I've said, we don't need to know the individual 874 01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:24,800 names of individuals who may have committed some of these crimes. We're willing to 875 01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:29,960 grant amnesty to them. This can be done confidentially, even if necessary, 876 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:34,880 through the Defense or through the Justice Department. We don't. But there's very 877 01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:43,600 little, there's very little relating to this issue that is legitimately classified to protect 878 01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:47,840 the national security of the United States technology. I'm sorry, you don't think 879 01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:57,800 that technology should be classified classified? Why, Well, we're not the only 880 01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:03,920 ones that have this, So what I mean that's like saying we ought to 881 01:17:04,159 --> 01:17:09,760 we ought to we ought to keep confidential the secrets of electricity because we don't 882 01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:14,720 want anybody else knowing about it. You know what, what's the what we 883 01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:20,479 have to have is a treaty that we all agree prohibits anybody in any country 884 01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:27,760 anywhere utilizing the technology to develop any kind of a weapon system. You know 885 01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,880 that that's the key we we have to we have to have a treaty, 886 01:17:30,079 --> 01:17:34,239 uh that that prohibits this, you know, if it's available to people. 887 01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:43,319 Pardon, I don't know how you do that with communist countries. With communist 888 01:17:43,359 --> 01:17:46,119 countries, what do you mean, Russia, China? How do you get 889 01:17:46,119 --> 01:17:51,560 them to enact a treaty about this exhaust systems that they may or may not 890 01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:56,960 have that they're trying to develop into weapons just like we are. Well what 891 01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,399 what? What I think you don't understand is that the fact is that the 892 01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:03,800 Soviet in China decades ago, had agreed that if the United States would agree 893 01:18:04,039 --> 01:18:08,880 to disassemble its nuclear weapons, it will disassemble all of its nuclear weapons. 894 01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,960 They will agree not to have any kind of nuclear weapons systems at all. 895 01:18:12,359 --> 01:18:14,800 You know, they've agreed to that to begin with. It isn't the communist 896 01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,600 countries that were causing the problem here, it was the United States. The 897 01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:24,000 United States insisted upon having nuclear weapons so that they could force their will across 898 01:18:24,039 --> 01:18:27,119 the world. You know, That's what we've got. That's the problem we've 899 01:18:27,159 --> 01:18:30,520 got here. That what we have to do have the United States be willing 900 01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:38,000 to put forth a treaty that is enforceable to prohibit anybody in the world from 901 01:18:38,079 --> 01:18:43,359 using any of this technology for weapons purposes. Now, the problem is that 902 01:18:43,399 --> 01:18:47,159 they want to protect they want to give special advantage to our American corporations to 903 01:18:47,239 --> 01:18:51,439 be able to use it even for private purposes and for civilian purposes. That's 904 01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:56,560 not a legitimate interest on the part of our national security. We don't have 905 01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:00,880 to we don't have to have monopoly control over the natural resource of the planet. 906 01:19:00,239 --> 01:19:03,279 You know. We don't even have to have as five percent of the 907 01:19:03,319 --> 01:19:06,760 population of the planet. We don't have to consume forty percent of all the 908 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:11,840 natural resources of the planet every year. That's not a national security interest. 909 01:19:12,159 --> 01:19:15,159 That's just private greed, Navarice. You know, we need to have an 910 01:19:15,399 --> 01:19:23,640 entire different view of our human family as one united human family on our planet, 911 01:19:24,319 --> 01:19:28,159 and we need to share the resources we need to We need to have 912 01:19:28,239 --> 01:19:31,079 the peaceful development of all of these different kind of resources that we have. 913 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,439 You know, we don't have to lord it over the rest of the planet. 914 01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:38,960 We don't have to have a national defense budget every single year. There's 915 01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:43,600 ten bigger than the ten other countries in the world. You know, we 916 01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:45,560 don't have to do that. You know. And now this may this may 917 01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:53,800 require kind of a profound change in attitude, but that's exactly what the reality 918 01:19:54,199 --> 01:20:00,000 of the extraterrestrial civilization offers us, is that it can completely and profoundly try 919 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:06,239 transform our entire perception of ourself as a human species, as one unified family 920 01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:13,680 that can participate in a cooperative way peacefully. And I think that the treaty, 921 01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,520 the treaty banning the use of any of the UFO technology for any weapons 922 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:23,159 purposes at all is a very important first step, and it will be one 923 01:20:23,199 --> 01:20:28,560 of the major planks in the platform of a new twenty twenty eight administration here 924 01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,039 in our United States government. It has to be we have to take this 925 01:20:31,159 --> 01:20:35,239 step because we've been the bully on the block, you know for the last 926 01:20:35,279 --> 01:20:40,039 seventy five years. That's what we're doing. I mean, And all you 927 01:20:40,079 --> 01:20:42,079 have to do is think about it. I mean, you could say, 928 01:20:42,239 --> 01:20:45,560 oh, well, what about you know, putin in Russia that invaded the 929 01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:46,880 Ukraine. I mean, all you have to do is back up and do 930 01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:51,279 a little homework and discover that there was an agreement made. We were personally 931 01:20:51,279 --> 01:20:56,359 involved at the Jesuit headquarters, involved in meeting with Gorbachev to get him to 932 01:20:56,399 --> 01:21:00,079 agree to step back from the from the Cold War and agree to step back 933 01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:05,960 and release all the republics of the Union of Soviet Socials republics. And there 934 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:12,880 was a specific promise that was made by George Bush Senior and James Baker the 935 01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:19,720 Third to pruit to Gorbachev that we would never try to recruit any of the 936 01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:26,479 Soviet republics into NATO. It was a specific promise that was made. But 937 01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:31,039 as soon as Dick Cheney got into power, along with just Bush junior. 938 01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:36,119 You know, they began one by one to start recruiting those republics into NATO 939 01:21:36,399 --> 01:21:41,560 and putting nuclear missiles into those areas. These are things that you need to 940 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:45,239 know about here, you know, And so that it isn't that you know 941 01:21:45,319 --> 01:21:49,079 that there's this horrible threat of Russia attacking us across the ice caps, you 942 01:21:49,119 --> 01:21:53,319 know, I mean that went out back in the nineteen fifties. You know, 943 01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:58,800 what we have to do is have a treaty that prohibits anybody and everybody 944 01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:02,079 from making any kind of use of the technology to develop any kind of a 945 01:22:02,119 --> 01:22:06,119 weapons system. And we can enforce that if the United States will abide by 946 01:22:06,159 --> 01:22:10,479 it. I'm sure that we can get China to a degree to that, 947 01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,399 and we can get Russia to agree to it. We can get every country 948 01:22:13,399 --> 01:22:16,479 in the world to agree to it. Well, thank you, William. 949 01:22:17,039 --> 01:22:24,119 We actually have people standing by to talk to you, and one of them 950 01:22:24,319 --> 01:22:28,239 is let's see, we have Dave from Toronto. Dave, welcome to the 951 01:22:28,239 --> 01:22:31,479 show. Hello, how are you. I'm good, Thank you for calling 952 01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:36,000 in. You have a question for Danny. Yes, we've heard a lot 953 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:42,159 of very bold claims from some very reputable people, and my question is when 954 01:22:42,279 --> 01:22:46,159 is the general public one to see some more substantive evidence of what's going on, 955 01:22:46,239 --> 01:22:51,640 pictures or video or even more than that. Well, they're going to 956 01:22:51,680 --> 01:23:00,000 be they're either going to be provided this information pursuant to the UAP Controlled Discool 957 01:23:00,319 --> 01:23:05,319 Act, pursue it to a specific calendar. You know that there's a specific 958 01:23:05,359 --> 01:23:08,840 time. I could go into it in some detail, but they've set forth 959 01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:13,760 the details of how that information needs to be unfolded or it's going to be 960 01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:18,119 undertaken in an unmore regulated way. And we're going to bring forth more and 961 01:23:18,199 --> 01:23:23,560 more whistleblowers. We're going to be presenting them to the Senate Intelligence Committee, 962 01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:27,760 We're going to be providing them to the House Oversight Committee. What we're going 963 01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,640 to do is we're going to continue to function just as though this law were 964 01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:35,119 passed, okay, and we're going to provide this information to the members of 965 01:23:35,159 --> 01:23:40,359 Congress, and we're going to have them exercising their own judgment as to what 966 01:23:41,039 --> 01:23:44,720 this information needs to be made public. They're going to agree to hold public 967 01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:49,279 hearings where witnesses like David Grusch are going to come forward and under oath, 968 01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:55,479 are going to testify under oath in open hearings about what the information is that 969 01:23:56,039 --> 01:24:00,800 these major aerospace industries don't want revealed. And we're going to start revealing it 970 01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:04,960 in a choreographed manner. Step by step. We're going to keep on coming 971 01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:09,000 with this information, you know, and it's either going to be under a 972 01:24:09,159 --> 01:24:13,920 controlled process or it's going to be under a less control process. But that's 973 01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:17,920 what we're going to do so they can take this to the bank. Wow. 974 01:24:18,239 --> 01:24:23,079 Great, well, thank you, Thank you, Dave. I appreciate 975 01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:27,600 thank you, Dave, I appreciate it. We have we have one more 976 01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:32,079 caller and that is Penny from the UK. Penny, welcome to the show. 977 01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:38,560 Thank you so much. Thank you so much, mister Shan for your 978 01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:45,319 passionate contribution everything to do with this amazing. My question is, please, 979 01:24:46,279 --> 01:24:55,880 if the special Access program NDAs were signed in organizations within the government that are 980 01:24:56,039 --> 01:25:03,960 committing on constitutional apps, does that actually render them non void because as as 981 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:11,199 an organization that's sort of committing corporate treason of some sort towards the constitution, 982 01:25:13,119 --> 01:25:16,920 yes that that we we could in fact take an action to get them declared 983 01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:23,920 void because it's a contract contrary to public interest. There's an entire, entire 984 01:25:24,039 --> 01:25:30,279 doctrine in contract law that prohibits forcing a person to sign a contract that is 985 01:25:30,319 --> 01:25:35,720 fundamentally contrary to the public interest, you know. And that and I've offered 986 01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:41,840 to free of charge represent the people who are in possession of information that should 987 01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:46,920 be disclosed, that is being illegally classified and being kept from the Congress and 988 01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:51,520 kept from the public, to defend them against this charge. That's why I 989 01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:57,560 represented lou Alissando, That's why I represented others. You know that the fact 990 01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:01,279 of the matter is that this information is going to be made available, uh, 991 01:26:01,319 --> 01:26:06,359 and that we're going to argue make the arguments that Congress should be allowed 992 01:26:06,399 --> 01:26:11,520 to bring forward this information. Uh. And that's what we're going to do. 993 01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:16,199 The answer is yes, the the bona fides of those non disclosure agreements 994 01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:21,640 can be vitiated if, in fact, it can be demonstrated that the that 995 01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:28,760 the people who impose those non disclosure agreements on those individuals were engaged in unlawful, 996 01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:35,600 criminal activity and unconstitutional activity. That's our position. Anything else, much 997 01:26:36,359 --> 01:26:42,600 question, anything else pending. I'd just like to hear your accent so we 998 01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:51,319 can The only tiny question I was going to ask is what sort of areas 999 01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:59,720 of personal developments to Satan feel that we should be attempting to sort of engage 1000 01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:04,000 in our in our sort of daily existence that could help us with this initial 1001 01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:13,880 sort of baby steps with the NHI and how to realistically present our best sites 1002 01:27:14,319 --> 01:27:18,079 if we're going to have this extraordinary compensation. Well, it's a very simple 1003 01:27:18,159 --> 01:27:24,760 answer to that that. The most important thing that anyone listening to this program 1004 01:27:25,159 --> 01:27:33,399 can do is they can go on Amazon Books in order the two volumes set 1005 01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:42,079 by Richard Dolan of the UFOs in the National Security State and what is just 1006 01:27:42,319 --> 01:27:51,640 filled with actual US official government internal documents that detail the history of the UFO 1007 01:27:51,760 --> 01:28:00,239 phenomenon and the development of a completely unlawful illegal activity on the part of the 1008 01:28:00,239 --> 01:28:06,960 deep state of our American government in unlawfully destroying the lives of people who have 1009 01:28:08,039 --> 01:28:14,079 been attempting to peacefully and constitutionally get answers to these questions. You know, 1010 01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:20,319 it's easy, Richard Dolan two volumes of the UFOs and the National Security State, 1011 01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:25,920 and just bring it home and read it. Read both volumes of this 1012 01:28:26,039 --> 01:28:32,039 and you will become an expert on what the status is of the actual internal 1013 01:28:32,159 --> 01:28:38,680 government documents Already showing what's been going on. I mean, there are letters 1014 01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:44,319 there from the commanding officers of the United States Air Force to the President saying, 1015 01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:49,319 we know that these are real, we know that they're metallic craft that 1016 01:28:49,399 --> 01:28:56,399 are flying at these outrageous rates. We're unable to do anything about this, 1017 01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:00,680 and we think that there needs to be a major program developed the government to 1018 01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:04,319 figure out who these these people are that are flying these things. You know. 1019 01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:10,159 And and that was that was like fifty years ago. Uh, and 1020 01:29:10,239 --> 01:29:13,560 that the documents are there. It's simple, you know now. And so 1021 01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:18,560 just tell yourself this. For every person who's listening to this who has not 1022 01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:29,159 read those two volumes, don't complain. Don't complain about how hard it is 1023 01:29:29,279 --> 01:29:33,079 to get something done. If you won't even bother reading the two books. 1024 01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:35,800 You know, there's just two volumes of it, and you just go through 1025 01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:40,239 them, and you'll be familiar with the different kinds of sightings, the different 1026 01:29:40,279 --> 01:29:44,239 kinds of evidence, the internal documents acknowledging that they know about this, you 1027 01:29:44,279 --> 01:29:48,760 know, and you will then be fully equipped to talk with your fellow citizens, 1028 01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:55,159 your friends, your neighbors, your fellow family members, your relatives, 1029 01:29:55,199 --> 01:29:59,199 to say, look at uh, there's this. There's this two volume work 1030 01:29:59,359 --> 01:30:02,399 of all the internal US government documents showing that this stuff is true and is 1031 01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:08,319 going on here. Let me have a conversation with you about this. We 1032 01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:14,439 have to take control of our own government, Okay. We need to do 1033 01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:18,840 that by being educated about the facts. And you can get those from Richard 1034 01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:26,640 Dolan's two volume work, The UFOs and the National Security State. That's a 1035 01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:30,039 simple answer to your question. Penny. Thank thank you, Penny, thank 1036 01:30:30,159 --> 01:30:33,199 you for taking the time. Thank you. All right, thank you. 1037 01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:40,840 So I'm going to have to ask Richard for a commission on that. He'll 1038 01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:46,039 sell some books. But anyway, we have about eight minutes left and that's 1039 01:30:46,079 --> 01:30:51,600 it. There was another call, but they dropped off, and so actually 1040 01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:57,039 we could probably wrap the show here in like three minutes. So I think 1041 01:30:57,079 --> 01:31:00,239 you've really given out all the information that I think that you know, the 1042 01:31:00,279 --> 01:31:05,520 people that want to help will do something. And I really thank you for 1043 01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:10,760 your your work. And you know it's funny I sent you an email. 1044 01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:15,760 Oh we do have another person. I am so sorry about that. He's 1045 01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:20,239 been waiting all this time. Okay, so we will bring let's let's cancel 1046 01:31:20,279 --> 01:31:25,960 that rap and we'll bring Leo in here, Leo, Leo, Leo, 1047 01:31:26,119 --> 01:31:29,840 how are you hey? I'm going to hey, Danny. I had a 1048 01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:33,319 pleasure of meeting you a year ago in Pasadena, So thanks for your attention 1049 01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:39,079 on doing the right thing and fighting to do kind of good for our human 1050 01:31:39,119 --> 01:31:44,199 family. I had two questions. The first one was how has this slipped 1051 01:31:44,199 --> 01:31:48,159 through the clacks from the checks and balances of other governments, nation states, 1052 01:31:49,039 --> 01:31:56,520 religious bodies like the Vatican, which is I'm sure filled with so many individuals, 1053 01:31:56,920 --> 01:32:00,960 independent thinkers and collects, and this humans like us. What is this 1054 01:32:01,159 --> 01:32:08,000 organization and how is it? How has it managed to build an alliance to 1055 01:32:09,119 --> 01:32:13,199 kind of pull the will over everyone's eye? Right? That is my first 1056 01:32:13,279 --> 01:32:17,680 question. Well, actually, I guess what I say is that it hasn't. 1057 01:32:19,039 --> 01:32:24,119 The reality is is that eighty percent of all the people in the country 1058 01:32:24,159 --> 01:32:28,239 believe it's true, you know, and they believe they're extraterrestrial. That if 1059 01:32:28,239 --> 01:32:32,960 you go around the world, you know, a substantial plurality of regular people 1060 01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:40,399 are sure this is true. That the challenges with the elite, and the 1061 01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:45,880 answer to that part of the question is why don't the elite acknowledge that this 1062 01:32:45,039 --> 01:32:49,840 is true? And the answer to that is is that the elite are worried 1063 01:32:50,319 --> 01:32:55,800 that if this information is made available to the regular people, is going to 1064 01:32:56,000 --> 01:33:02,920 undermine the kind of authority that these elite people have, that people are going 1065 01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:08,720 to look through them to trying to figure out what the extraterrestrial people know about 1066 01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:14,800 if they've existed. You've got I got to understand the universe is thirteen point 1067 01:33:15,079 --> 01:33:20,720 seven billion years old, you know, and our whole planet is only three 1068 01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:26,920 point five billion years old. So you've got ten billion more years of other 1069 01:33:27,079 --> 01:33:34,840 civilizations potentially existing in our universe and in our galaxy. And so that if 1070 01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:41,319 you have if you have a number of civilizations that are even one billion years, 1071 01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:45,840 not ten billion years, but one billion years more advanced than we are, 1072 01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:53,439 and have had all of that time to philosophize, in theologize and develop 1073 01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:59,479 technologies, et cetera, you know that the the onslaugh of that type of 1074 01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:08,760 information threatens the elite on our planet who believe that they need to maintain themselves 1075 01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:14,560 as the people that the vast majority of people in the world trust to help 1076 01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:19,439 make decisions about how our human family should be operating. And if you look 1077 01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:23,399 around the world right now, I guess you can ask that famous question, 1078 01:34:24,079 --> 01:34:28,479 how's that doing for us? You know, how well well are we doing 1079 01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:33,039 at that right now? You know, So the elite group of people in 1080 01:34:33,079 --> 01:34:38,119 the academic world and in the financial world, the corporate world, they're all 1081 01:34:38,159 --> 01:34:44,039 worried about losing control over the resources of the planet, and so that's what's 1082 01:34:44,119 --> 01:34:46,560 keeping them from doing it. And they're in charge of most of the media, 1083 01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:50,680 and they're in charge of the universities, they're in charge of the educational 1084 01:34:51,199 --> 01:34:58,159 processes on the planet, and so that they're very reluctant to give up their 1085 01:34:58,279 --> 01:35:04,359 unique position and positions of at the pyramid of all authority on the planet. 1086 01:35:05,079 --> 01:35:13,560 So that's the answer to that one as to why they've been thinking that they're 1087 01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:15,800 pulling the wool over the eyes of the vast majority of people. But they're 1088 01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:19,239 not, because the most of the people more or less believe it now, 1089 01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:24,960 but they're still they've been trained, the average people have been trained to believe 1090 01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:29,760 that in order to really act on something, you need to be told by 1091 01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:33,760 somebody in a position of authority that it's true. Now, that's why it's 1092 01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:38,720 so important that the New York Times made the decision back in December of twenty 1093 01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:44,279 seventeen to put on a front page story the fact they didn't put out the 1094 01:35:44,279 --> 01:35:46,960 fact that there's UFOs and they're real, and that you know they've been coming 1095 01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:50,720 and going. What they did is that there's a secret program inside the Pentagon 1096 01:35:53,079 --> 01:35:57,079 is being lied about, so therefore they think there's some kind of a problem 1097 01:35:57,119 --> 01:36:00,439 here. And what that did is open the gates for the people coming forward 1098 01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:06,359 and giving more information to assertain that, in fact, there is an extraterrestrial 1099 01:36:06,359 --> 01:36:13,800 civilization and they are coming here in the UFO vehicles and they are engaging in 1100 01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:18,039 having face to face encounters with our human family and attempting to convey to us 1101 01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:21,680 that we have to get rid of our nuclear weapons programs, and we also 1102 01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:28,199 have to stop polluting our planet, imposing global climate change on our planet that 1103 01:36:28,319 --> 01:36:32,520 is threatening to destroy the life generating capacity of our unique planet here that these 1104 01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,960 are things that people believe, but we're right on the brink right now. 1105 01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:41,920 Have en listing more and more and more of the people who are in the 1106 01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:47,920 traditional elite governing class of our human species into acknowledging this. That's what this 1107 01:36:48,039 --> 01:36:55,359 bill is all about. This bill is the codification at the present state of 1108 01:36:55,399 --> 01:37:00,680 the development of this movement of how far we've reached up in to the power 1109 01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:05,840 structure to get significant portions of the power structure to agree that the time has 1110 01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:11,319 come to make this information available. And what's happening is we're running into this 1111 01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:17,680 tiny, tiny minority of people inside the elite who are so desperate to stay 1112 01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:25,239 in control of this information that they're blocking the democratic process and they're blocking the 1113 01:37:25,319 --> 01:37:30,520 constitutional form of our government from functioning. And that's why this bill is so 1114 01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:34,079 important to get passed. And we've got to roll out every single resource that 1115 01:37:34,119 --> 01:37:40,520 we have at our disposal to get this law passed, and we've only got 1116 01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:45,520 twenty five days to do it. So everybody, even if you're from another 1117 01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:49,199 country, you need to contact these people in Congress and say, the whole 1118 01:37:49,239 --> 01:37:53,960 world is watching. The whole world is watching, you know, and that 1119 01:37:54,039 --> 01:38:00,600 you're embarrassing yourself by failing to demonstrate that democracy really works. If you want 1120 01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:02,960 to make the best arguments that you can against the ones that William is talking 1121 01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:08,279 about the communist countries, you know, that show them that democracy can really 1122 01:38:08,359 --> 01:38:12,920 work. That's what you need, and that we're willing to give power. 1123 01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:16,920 We're willing to give up the kind of unilateral power to dominate the whole planet 1124 01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:24,399 at this extraordinarily important moments as a gesture for bringing our human family together. 1125 01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:28,520 Yeah, excellent. I'm so sorry, Leo, I had to cut the 1126 01:38:29,359 --> 01:38:32,560 second question because we are plumb out of time. Danny, thank you so 1127 01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:35,399 much. It's been a real pleasure, and I hope to have you back 1128 01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:40,760 on the show again someday for sure. Okay, and good luck with all 1129 01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:45,079 the efforts. I do appreciate them. Tell them to contact their congress people 1130 01:38:45,199 --> 01:38:49,680 right now. That's right, Okay, thank you, take care. All 1131 01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:54,199 right, everyone. We will be back next week with Kevin Wright, and 1132 01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:58,039 actually he will be continuing a little bit more of this talk. And don't 1133 01:38:58,079 --> 01:39:01,600 forget, we have Crossfire on Thursday night on this YouTube channel. I'm going 1134 01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:05,439 to be administrating it, and that will be at eight to ten pm Eastern. 1135 01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:36,840 Thanks so much, everyone, and remember to keep your eyes to the sky.