Hey, folks. Today's story unfalls in Texas, where Catholic nuns and their
bishop are locked in the dramatic feud. The nuns have banned their bishop from
their monitory monastery, citing spiritual safety after allegations of misconduct and interference. It's
a battle of claims and counterclaims. The bishop accused the head nun of breaking
her vow of chastity with a priest from outside, leading to legal battles and
even an excommunication. Warning. But wait minute, is this really about religious
convictions or could there be a power struggle at play? The situation has turned
so intense that the Vatican got involved. Join us as we unravel this captivating
tale of religious turmoil and conflicting authority. This articles from scowl News entitled Catholic
nuns banished Texas bishop and accused him of spying in row over chastity by Michael
Drummond, published August twenty third, twenty three. It's all a bit of
a mess, and I'd like some help to entangle it, to be quite
honest. And so I don't know who should I go to first, phil
What's what's going on? Help me out here? This bishop has been really
problematic, really problematic. From it seems, as you said correctly, that
he has this habit of getting into a lot of controversy, especially tours members
of the clergy, and and and the person's like the nuns. And so
he seems to have a habit and punning pun the word, habit of removing
priests and nuns. And he seems to do it before evident because this is
they're claiming he has no evidence. And apparently he had removed a priest's name,
Reverend Curtmant before before having any evidence. So I don't know what is
this. This bishop's problem a serious problem. And apparently in the case of
Reverent Kurtman, it seems as if Reverent Kirtman was about to call out another
priest that supposed another priest for despicable sexual behavior, and this bishop came in
and bring some accusation against Reverend Kirtman and so, and the lawyer of Reverend
Kirtman sent a letter to him telling him that telling the bishop, but you
have there's no evidence of what you claim, Kurtman, I've done and looking
at this article here and who it seems as if the bishop said that the
nune may have may I have? That indicates that you don't really have good
evidence if you have to say, may I have done such and such?
So something is wrong here? If this this this bishop, it has me
puzzled. What do you think about that? In Fidel, well, you
know, I gotta say, we did an episode about the church starting down
the road to band transgender care and thing. It's called praise be to pre
thanks be to prejudice, and Olsen he's on the actual the committee that it's
going to ultimately make that decision. And then he made the comment that gender
ideology was preying upon transgender people. So it looks like he's just up to
his own thing, and that is to be himself, you know, to
do horrible things and to say horrible things in the guise of leadership. Now,
now he does have a knack for pissing people off. There's h their
websites dedicated to wanting to remove him for different things he's done. And we're
just demolishing churches, firing other people, certain very questionable behavior, you know.
But the truth be told, I really don't care much about whether the
nun was right wrong or what his particular behaviors are. And the truth is
is almost any time I can see division among the believers, I'm I'll take
that that's a win, because this is just something that go ahead and count
me in. Now. To me, what I really get though, is
the field that this comes across. You know, I've seen this on a
nature show. You know, we have a beach walrus trying to protect his
harem of nuns from an invading priest from another parish. It just it just
reeks of somebody just trying to throw their weight around and and trying to dominate.
And you know, while I'm glad to see the nuns step back and
step up to him, the truth is this is really an inner enter politics
thing that you know, you know, breaking it down to you know,
he got wind of a nun doing it with an outside priest, and he
goes in the jealousy mode. He steals your computer, iPad and her mobile
phone. You know. Then he goes around stalking and supposedly monitoring what she
does. After this, uh, you know, the nuns tell her the
fuck off, you're not my dad, I mean father, and uh,
of course you know, then Olsen pulls up the Christian victim card, you
know, hurt as a friend that they're treating him this way, and then
of course excommunicate for all you know. It sounds pretty much like what we
expect. Listen to me, what I say is right, what you say
doesn't matter. And at the end of the day, even if I'm wrong,
well you're going to hell anyway. Excommunication for everyone who cared. So
I'm glad to see the nuns pushing back. But come on, we know
what this guy is about. We've talked about not only the Catholic Church many
times, we've talked about him specifically. He's just doing it again, up
to his old tricks, Helen. So I actually felt kind of a little
bit inspired by this article because it was nice to see the nuns pushing back.
And as a former Catholic, I know all about the misogyny and the
church, so it was nice to see the nuns like, no, dude,
you are crossing boundaries. That he was spying on them and spreading rumors
and trying to cause discourse within the monastery. It was a whole thing,
you know, just because he thought there was a competitor. And to be
fair, I kind of not to be fair, but I want to pint
out the hypocrisy of this because if the nun did have sex with the priests,
it was too consenting adult. Okay, I'm not a big fan of
calling out sexual you know, sexual impurity and the religion when guess what,
the Catholic Church has does some really really bad things. So you know,
maybe you should keep your mouth shut, okay and not go around, you
know, passing judgment. Hey hey, kettle me pot pretty much. And
I think that's you know, this is just shows the hypocrisy that it's coming
up. And I also because being a nun already is a second classicist and
stay within the Catholic Church because you know, you can be celibate to you
know, to God and do charity works and things like that, but you
can't have any sort of leadership. You can't leave Mass, you can't hear
confession, you can't do any of these things. Basically, you are a
servant to the church, but you can't have any agents. And the fact
that these nuns were like, we're done, you know, and and they
booted him Mosch, I think is something to be commended. Obviously, I
hate the Catholic Church. I considered a criminal organization, but I will always
give points to people standing up like we're not going to put up in a
crab anymore, you know, no matter what institution, if they're being treated
unfairly. So that's kind of my perspective on it, you know. And
I'm I'm and I felt kind of I felt a little bit inspired, and
I was like, hey, yay, go go feminism. That's where I
was. Anyway. Anyway, Richard, I'm sure you get more to say
about this. Yeah, I mean this Actually don't know he's ever seen Father
Ted the comedy sit He reminds me of a character called Bishop Brennan who eventually
gets kicked up the ass for us a whole other story, but in the
way that he seems to be really stuck up. Really, I mean,
that's one of the things that people are angry with them about. Is a
couple of priests decide to make a bit homebrew beer, and apparently he told
on them and one of them kicked. Having me briefs, I mean,
have an ale mind sounds like you need one. Come on, I don't
remember Catholics being particularly against having a drink. It's you know, my mom's
Catholic. They could down it with the best of them. Really, so
I don't know what that's all out. It's not like they're they're into temperance
or anything, so but it just seems like a class one jerk. And
it is kind of cool that the nuns have had enough and they're pushing back,
and they seem to be that a kind of nun who are used to
their autonomy, used to being pretty much left alone, you know. And
when this guy comes along and sees that because there are some women who will
not do as I tell them, I'm going to see to that that's not
going to happen anything. And so one of them apparently has a sexual relation
with Song because this guy seems you know, as as a famously said by
Stephen Fry that to the Catholic Church, sex is a bit like food.
It's exciting, it's you see, it's wonder phone. You have too much
of it, it can be really really bad. And that's Catholic Chursure's attitude
to sex. They're just too much of it. They just think it's bad
and it isn't. And he's he's a classic. To me, if you
were to draw, asked me to draw and write out what I would think
a Catholic bishop would be like I reckon, it'd be exactly like he is.
He's just trying to be this version of a bishop. And yeah,
I can see him screaming and shouting and run along with with a nice purple
outfit with the gold bit in the middle, just to make yourself look even
more powerful, screaming, running towards these names and then just get out of
it, which should be great. But yeah, I don't know what his
problem is. But again, it just shows you that even within the same
religion, people are constantly disagreeing with each other. They just can't decide what
their dogmas are half the time. So maybe they should just let them go.
And no, that's not going to happen now, yeah, Phil,
Yeah, you know, I find sometimes these churches and church organizations do not
follow basically what their Holy Book prescribe of how to deals with such matters,
you know. And yeah, because in these scriptures, their scriptures in my
few eighteen fifteen to seventeen, Jesus said, if your brother or a sister,
since go, since go and point out their fault just between the two
of you. If they listen to you, you have win them over.
But if they will not listen to one or two others alone, so that
every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses. If
they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church. And if they
refused to listen even to the church, treat them as you will a pagan
or a tax collector. And I based on these things here does have been
happening, especially but this bishop, he seems not to follow his script Church,
you know as to how to deal with matters like these. And it
is so funny, you know. And the thing is, what is the
problem with the Nune getting her groove on her priests? You know, it
seems it seems as if because you know, the problem is, especially when
you have this problem, this thing about celibacy, it creates a sex star
position. And so if it did happen and they have the Nune and the
priests, they had holy delight, ice cream, come on. But the
church, we know that the Church loves to control people's natural desires, desires
which one I think it's the term that the god virus in this yes,
and call it the god sex virus. They have to control people's desires,
want to control what we'll do at all as consenting adults, and so so
it is you know it, the church really gets there, and theckers and
a twists and the bishop really and truly they not follow the guidance of his
so I call holy scriptures. Well you say about well, I was gonna
go, I hear Glenn has a say first, because I have I have
a new thought that I'm forming in my brain, and I want to make
sure I have all Okay, so I'll go ahead and buy time for Helen
while she's an anytime, I'm there for you. Now, you know,
I have to say that it's hard for me to say whether this bishop's following
protocol or not, because the truth is, is that protocol typically in the
Catholic churches, other than when it comes to hide the predators, it comes
to you know what I say, because at the end of the day,
while the nuns are supposed to have autonomy, it does look like the pope
and cells and the is leaning towards the bishop's way. And the truth is,
is that's really to be expected. I mean, at the end of
the day, do we really think that the pope is going to let some
woman win the argument? I mean, I hate to put it that way.
But let's not kid ourselves. That's the truth. I mean, it's
bad enough that you know we're ignoring let the woman keep silent, so come
on, we're going to let them tell the archbishop and the bishop to shut
up, to stay away. No, I think, unfortunately this is going
to go the wrong way at the end of the day, though that might
serve the best interest of everyone because propping up these type of organizations, we
look at these non structures and we look at them being held up in some
esteem for sacrificing their lives to do all this. Really we're glorifying poverty,
we're glorifying you known self denial, we're encouraging and we're teaching value to things
that really there's not a value there. Now, don't get me wrong.
That doesn't mean let's go follow the bishop's way, because well we know he's
a piece of shit too. But the truth is is that you know this
in fighting between themselves, maybe it'll cause some other young young woman who's thinking,
maybe I don't want to become enough, and and maybe that's the long
Maybe that's really the game, because if someone can go live life and whatever
that's with and whomever that's with and she can have all the sex she wants
to with whomever she wants without having to worry about Bishop Olson deciding that she
did something wrong and now I need your phone like you're a teenage Come on,
give me a break. The Catholic Church, I would say they're better
than that. No, they're actually quite They're far worse. So I won't
lie and say they're better than that. But yeah, plus one for the
Catholic Church exposing themselves. They're pretty good at that too, but that's that's
another story. But yeah, let's let them expose themselves for what they are
and maybe let the younger generation go you know what hard pass and speak in
a pass Helen, if you formed that dark oh I did so. I
was kind of sitting here and I'll mind former nineties goth who'll remember the song
I'm a Christian Woman by Type O negative And that's all I kept thinking about
when I was reading this damn story. I was like, yeah, I
was like, you get a girl, you get it, And that's what
I was thinking about because there's so much sexual shame within the church. Thank
you Paul for being the first in cell and then affecting a whole religion with
your bad ideas. Oh joy, and they're and this, this is the
thing that drives me crazy where they're still trying to hold onto these terrible ideas.
I mean, at least and non dominational forms of religion. You're allowed
to have sex, You're allowed to get married. You know, it's not
restrictive. You know. I'm not saying it's a good thing. I'm not
saying it's a good thing. I'm just you know, I'm just you know,
doing a little bit of a comparison. Don't eat. I mean,
but I'm just like, you know, and that's the thing that's so crazy,
because our sexual desire is part of what makes us human. I mean,
like besides, you know, maybabies or not, but it reduces stress,
helps us be more healthier, helps us bond with you know, our
partners. I mean, there's all these benefits to it, you know.
I mean, like who hasn't masturbated, you know, because they couldn't sleep
at night and they're like I needed relaxing and asking you having more gas.
I mean, you fall asleep. It's great. So I'm just saying maybe
we shouldn't be you know, we're pressing people, you know, being able
to like chill out. And I'm really glad that these nuns were like,
no, screw you, screw you man. You're it's too far. You've
done too much, overreached or done. So that's kind of, you know,
my last thoughts comments on this particular topic. So anyway, Richard,
did you want to say anything else before we move on? Not much.
It's just I always assumed that it was a kind of an open secret.
Nuns generally would find ways to, let's just say, relieve their urges,
either either as a solo act or as part of a duo. It was
kind of a thing that was an Outmoseq Bonds, I knew. Same with
the monks, but the Black Friars of Cambridge. There's some stories I could
tell you, but yeah, it's so, it is there is It is
all about this Catholic obsession with sex as a bad thing and trying to control
how what the body does. Almost every evil thing that church has ever done
seems to come back to that in one form or another, depending on whose
body they're trying to control. And it's and in this case, it's a
classic, it's a classic textbook. It's actually for them. Actually, it's
kind of mile this story. You know, well, we're moving we're going
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