WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.360 --> 00:00:05.400 This is High on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports 2 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:10.839 fourteen fifteen. Subscribe now to the podcast. I'll the iHeartRadio while just searching 3 00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:14.480 I on the Ball. Hey, welcome back to the ball here on Fox 4 00:00:14.480 --> 00:00:17.320 Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay, and now we have sid 5 00:00:17.320 --> 00:00:23.519 with breaking news. This is High on the Ball Breaking news on Fox Sports 6 00:00:23.559 --> 00:00:27.320 fourteen fifteen. All right, start off the breaking news today with Uh, 7 00:00:27.719 --> 00:00:31.640 you have a football announcing the Pro Day as March fourteenth. Oh, okay, 8 00:00:32.600 --> 00:00:34.960 did they did? Did they say who is going to be at at 9 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:38.840 Pro Day? No one yet? Well, obviously you know the seniors from 10 00:00:39.119 --> 00:00:42.479 from from but the Jade Delores one that I'm not. I still don't. 11 00:00:42.600 --> 00:00:44.640 We don't know if he's coming back here for Pro Day. Yeah, I'm 12 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:48.439 not. I still haven't heard anything about him. He might. I assume 13 00:00:48.520 --> 00:00:51.119 there's a good chance though that he will. Well, I mean it's the 14 00:00:51.200 --> 00:00:54.159 last school he played for, so yeah, and I would think that they 15 00:00:54.200 --> 00:00:58.520 would welcome him back to do that. But you know they've had some Well 16 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:00.759 go all the way back to Antonio Pieris, right, who was the reason 17 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:03.159 he doesn't He's not fond of it. Of the U of A is that 18 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:07.799 you know, Macovic wouldn't let him work out here and stuff like that, 19 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:11.439 and it pissed him off. So but you know, you would think that 20 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:14.959 even though it's Brent Brannan and stuff, that they he would say, yeah, 21 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:17.280 you can come back and do your workouts and get ready for pro tay, 22 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:19.319 give him a chance. Yeah, and if he's if he's not thought 23 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:22.560 of, I would say, coach, you need to do that. Let 24 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:26.400 him come back here, y yeah. Right. Moving into Arizona baseball, 25 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:32.120 they lost yesterday to number five TCU. They have a tough schedule this weekend. 26 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:37.359 So today they'll play number twenty five Dallas Baptist and then on Saturday they'll 27 00:01:37.359 --> 00:01:41.000 play number sixteen Alabama, and then on Sunday they play number twenty Indiana. 28 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:49.480 So who that So a tough stretch for Arizon baseball. Okay, Okay, 29 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:57.719 Tommy Lloyd, let's nick a tough on the kids team. Okay, sticking 30 00:01:57.719 --> 00:02:01.280 with coach sports, Yesterday Alabama got the win, which gets them a share 31 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:07.319 of the SEC as of right now. Oh really, so it sneakily Alabama's 32 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:13.199 up there. I'd walk in the door at home last night and my daughter 33 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:17.520 Rachel's watching Auburn Tennessee good game. I had no idea Tennessee had moved up 34 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:21.199 to number four. Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, they're they're like 35 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:25.000 I said before, Tennessee, North Carolina, Arizona vuying for that last number 36 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:29.280 one seed. Yeah, and everybody they're in the same situation. They need 37 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:32.039 to win. They have a tougher schedule than Arizona given their right conference, 38 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:37.159 but if they went out there, they're gonna be the number one. See 39 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:39.879 yeah, see people here, it's like the fau thing for last year where 40 00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:43.360 they come from. Yeah, you don't know until you know, right, 41 00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:45.319 I know, I mean I knew they were good, right, knew they 42 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:46.400 were ranked in the whole bit. But I walked down. I saw they 43 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:51.240 were playing Auburn Auburn, and Auburn was winning when I walked in at that 44 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:53.120 Arbital kick there. But then then you know it's got the rankings on the 45 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:57.360 scurt on. I'm wait, a manue, when did Tennessee get to number 46 00:02:57.400 --> 00:03:00.479 four? Right? Right? No, they're good and I can say those 47 00:03:00.520 --> 00:03:04.000 three teams. North Carolina almost lost a couple of days ago, Arizona lost 48 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:07.479 last week. Than the album these three cannot. But who's got who's got 49 00:03:07.759 --> 00:03:13.599 who's more likely to lose in this last Tennessee? Right, those three those 50 00:03:13.599 --> 00:03:15.800 guys have, but they're playing against quality teams. Yeah, so do you 51 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:21.240 how weight do you put on there Verzona loses to whoever they have left? 52 00:03:21.240 --> 00:03:23.719 That's trouble. Well, that's trouble. Absolutely, No, Arizona can't lose 53 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:25.800 any of those games. They have less margin for air as far as that 54 00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:30.680 goes, But they have You know, the likelihood of one of those teams 55 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:35.719 losing in their conferences is very much significantly. Although the NC the ACC is 56 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:38.960 nothing, not that good. Well, they're saying the same amount of name, 57 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:40.639 number of bids as the pact. Well, so I think the one 58 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:45.199 that has the most to lose is probably Tennessee given them their schedules. So 59 00:03:45.319 --> 00:03:49.439 tough, Yeah, all right. Moving into women's college basketball, Caayland Clark. 60 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:53.599 She had forty eight points, She had another thirty point triple double, 61 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:59.199 and she set the single season women's three point record. Did you see that? 62 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:01.080 Did you see the video that one play where where she went into the 63 00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:05.960 lane kind of recklessly went into the lane, got her back to the basket. 64 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:10.520 So she just threw the ball up backwards, you know, backwards, 65 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:15.000 over her head. Hit No, hit the backboard, okay, And she 66 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:16.040 she wasn't trying to make the shot. She was just trying to hit the 67 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:20.160 backboard. So she throws it over backwards, over her head, hits the 68 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:26.519 backboard, she catches it, and then lays it in. Cut the hell 69 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:32.360 birdish become creative. Yeah it was. I mean, I've never seen anybody 70 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:34.399 else do that, you know, I mean, I've seen you know, 71 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:38.600 where guys go, if somebody's leading the fast break, they throw the ball 72 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:41.079 up, bounce off the backboard. Another guy catches it and dunks, and 73 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:43.519 I've seen that, but this is one where she threw it back. I 74 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:45.879 don't know how she thought she was going to be the one to catch it, 75 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:48.000 but she did. And then and she and she made the layup, 76 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:51.240 and I'm like, what the hell? She just continues to kind of and 77 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:56.680 she did pass that that one, that player who who was on AI, 78 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:01.680 Yeah she did pass her last night as well. But now another one has 79 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:05.920 come up, another player has come up. They played like way back when 80 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:10.759 who's got four thousand in some points and they say, she'll never catch you. 81 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:13.439 They're coming from the wind. Yeah, they're digging them out. I 82 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:15.120 don't know where where she came from. And pistol Peter, I think is 83 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:18.399 the one is the one that people are walking And because it wasn't not sure 84 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:21.879 a guy, it was like three points short. And then they didn't make 85 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:26.879 the playoffs, so you know, there's three short. They didn't let him 86 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:29.560 play in the plaoffs or whatever happen. And then he added three point short, 87 00:05:29.639 --> 00:05:32.160 which of course is still a pretty big fee. But he Merriage also 88 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:35.199 did it in three years, didn't he. I can't remember think he played. 89 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:38.800 I wish you think he played four years. But were you too old? 90 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:42.319 Were you too young to see him playing the bag of socks and the 91 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:46.160 whole bit. I just saw highlights. You saw. He was unbelievable. 92 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:49.399 He was to the point of ridiculous where you thought, Okay, you're playing 93 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:53.519 this game by yourself. You do have four other guys, you know, 94 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:57.319 on your team. I mean it was that. I mean, I thought 95 00:05:57.360 --> 00:06:00.480 he was fantastic and and the stuff that he did. He was way ahead 96 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:06.040 of his time in terms of what he did. But uh, you know, 97 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:10.920 he played a different game than everybody else. But I never just saw 98 00:06:10.920 --> 00:06:15.279 clips like Yeah. Moving into n b A for those that haven't been keeping 99 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:19.879 up with NBA news, the Timberwolves are now in first places of the West. 100 00:06:20.199 --> 00:06:23.800 Uh huh. They were. They were pretty much up there for a 101 00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:25.759 while earlier in the year, I think, yeah, and then they kind 102 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:28.199 of faded off a little bit and then all their back. So it's just 103 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:31.160 super interesting this year with the amount of talent that there is in the West, 104 00:06:31.319 --> 00:06:34.519 to see the Timberwolves in first, right, I had no Again, 105 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:39.439 I looked at the NBA standing the other day for some silly reason, and 106 00:06:39.480 --> 00:06:44.360 I had no idea that they want or the thunder right right right, So 107 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:47.720 that was that was weird. I'm just just hoping that the kur Led Warriors 108 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:50.879 get in. They've been playing well, you have them? Yeah, I 109 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:54.519 didn't, I haven't been didn't know. Okay, No, I would be 110 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:58.959 do I would bet there again, let's chuck keep it. There's a new 111 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:02.240 Billy Jean king A Ward which is going to be given to the best coverage 112 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:05.720 of women's sports. So that's that's that's interesting. Good for good for women's 113 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:10.360 sports and other other war to give out there. There's a ton of coverage 114 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:15.879 now compared to hours before I'm sure. Well, just the women's NCAA tournament 115 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:18.480 is on TV, yeah right, and like on network TV. So yeah, 116 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:23.360 well, I don't know if you've noticed this shape, but the women 117 00:07:23.399 --> 00:07:27.240 are inherent team the world. They just thought we got a new PAC twelve 118 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:30.360 to pack two commissioner. She's a woman. Yeah, we have an a 119 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:33.240 d who's a woman. Here we have there was something else we haven't. 120 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:40.920 We have an intern who's a woman. Good luck with that. Good luck 121 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:44.639 with that with us, you know, because they're they're taking over, which 122 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:46.439 is great, which is great. There was something else. There's a woman 123 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:50.439 I missed. Miss we'll get to that. Literally. I wanted to talk 124 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:58.600 to this too, for Jani is married and got married and no one knowing 125 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:01.480 the hipped it, which you know, no one knew, and he announced 126 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:07.959 it yesterday and I sent all to my you know, single lady friend said 127 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:11.920 sorry, well, okay, here comes the question, though, how will 128 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:16.399 he do this year? He's going to kill it. He's gonna kill it. 129 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:18.839 His wife will have something to say about that. You know what. 130 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:24.399 He'll be fine, you may maybe getting married. We'll let him to kind 131 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:26.920 of like put that, you know, and just do do his business. 132 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:33.799 No no, you know, he's gonna he's gonna be just fine. He's 133 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:37.200 gonna be really damn good. And I can't wait to see him in the 134 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:39.480 regular season in dodgery form, you know. I was looking at the schedule 135 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:45.399 today. They play two games in Korea against Yadre that are part of the 136 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:48.600 regular season. They're on like the nineteenth of the twentieth or the twentieth and 137 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:52.759 the twenty first, while everybody's still in spring training. Then they come back 138 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:58.759 here, play some more spring training games, and then go into the regular 139 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:03.279 season schedule, you know, like everybody else. I assume that those two 140 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:07.759 games buy them a couple of extra days off during the season, but their 141 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:13.759 regular season starts I think on March twentieth in Korea really the Padres, which 142 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:18.039 would be really interesting some interesting NFL news. I don't know if you guys 143 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:20.639 have seen the stuff that's going on with Mikael Hardman, but a lot of 144 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:26.720 the Jets players are coming out and saying that Hardman wasn't happy with his role, 145 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:31.360 and actually in one of the games, he leaked the game plan in 146 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:35.679 one of the games. That's what quarterback Sauce Gardner said. They's just been 147 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:37.320 going back and forth Hardman. It all started kind of when hard leaked the 148 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:41.200 game plan to who I think it was. I believe the Eagles. What 149 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:46.440 happened. I think they still the Jets still won, They still just I 150 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:50.679 think that was one of the first one of the three games that I lost. 151 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:56.440 Yep. It was just interesting because always happened that. That's like when 152 00:09:56.440 --> 00:10:03.679 I had bet on a game that Headache Smith points and I lost. You're 153 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:07.200 still holding on to those oh one hundred you screwed me on a on a 154 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:11.960 on a bet. You're You're dead to me. You're dead to me, 155 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:16.840 and I don't forget it if I see you, Oh man, oh forgive 156 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:22.440 me, father for you need to go to confession. Dude. That that's 157 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:26.039 that's that's like a grudge in granite in my mind. It's like that will, 158 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:31.240 that one will never go away. Interesting other NFL news, This one 159 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:37.440 involves the Cowboys owner Jerry Jones ordered to take a maternity test. Yeah still 160 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:41.600 this thing. Yeah, well it's been in the courts and a judge is 161 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:48.440 ordered he's got to take a paternity test for this This woman who says that 162 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:52.679 you know her, she and her mom were getting money from him. You 163 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:56.120 know, and then it stopped, and now she's saying, I want, 164 00:10:56.200 --> 00:11:00.200 I want some of my billion dollars. So yes, I saw that. 165 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:07.039 You know, Jerry, you know what, just cough it Upwboys team suck. 166 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:11.759 Too many things going on with Just cough it up and and move on. 167 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:16.960 I got one last thing here, So this one is more soccer news. 168 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:20.480 But I thought it was interesting. Paul was banned is banned for four 169 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:26.399 years for doping. It was interesting because it was testosterone. Who was this 170 00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:30.200 Paul Pugler, one of the star players from France. He's banned for four 171 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:35.960 years for u for using testosterone. Ouch, okay, why you always get 172 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:41.639 caught, all right, you always get caught? Okay. Yeah. Did 173 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:45.320 you see that Caleb Boys was making how much she was making in color? 174 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:48.879 No, ten million? He was not ten million. Came out this morning 175 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:52.879 or last night. Ten that's kind of verified. Yeah, because of the 176 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:56.960 campus this year, Doctor Pepper, all the other he was on. He 177 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:00.759 was the main dude on Dr Pepper. Yeah, yes, so there's ten 178 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:03.720 million, twenty even leave school. But he's gonna make a lot of money 179 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:05.399 obviously be in the prestpective. But that's how much. That's how the world 180 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:11.360 has turned. Yeah, I saw, I saw Darren Ravel on social media's 181 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:18.080 getting his face kicked in because Caitlin Clark declared for the WNBA today, and 182 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:20.360 he immediately comes out and says she's going to take a seven hundred and fifty 183 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:24.399 thousand dollars pay cut, And all the female writers are coming back and saying, 184 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:30.320 why are you assuming that she's gonna make less money in the WNBA. 185 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:33.799 All the money she's making isn't nil, isn't money coming through their collective. 186 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:37.120 It's endorsements and stuff that she has. Those are going to go on. 187 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:41.039 But you're an idiot. You're an idiot by assuming that the woman who leaves 188 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:45.960 who's making money in college and leads college, that she's going to lose all 189 00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:50.679 that, and they are shredding him on social media. Point it's especially excellent 190 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:54.480 point, especially from a pretty good analyst in that world. Well, that's 191 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:58.519 what Nicole Aarbach said. For somebody who for somebody who does this for a 192 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:03.799 living, you sure sounds stupid, is basically what her too. She didn't 193 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:05.919 use the word stupid, but it basically said, for somebody who knows, 194 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:09.639 who knows the business, you sure don't know the business. Right, No, 195 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:13.039 that makes him she really shredded him. Yeah, it makes sense, 196 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:16.159 yeah, because why wouldn't you know that? Right? Yeah, Okay, 197 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:18.960 we got about a minute. Who we got with the three fourteen? Who 198 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:22.559 do you have Josh, Josh, Josh fourteen. Let's want to just cool, 199 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:26.440 Let's go all right, let's take our break. I do want to 200 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:30.679 bring up a thing in the on the backside talking about the college football playoffs 201 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:31.799 and all the stuff. This happened, and then we're going to talk about 202 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:35.519 the question for us. So yeah, and you're Steve is or whatever, 203 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:37.919 it's going exact that guy. Okay, if I can remember what that well, 204 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:41.360 No, all right, stick around, Josh pastor coming right up. 205 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:45.600 The Windows Depot is more than a Windows store. 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Now on the phone. 273 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:36.519 We have former you of a basket Wellfayre Josh Pastor now on ESPN college basketball 274 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:41.440 analyst and favorite son of Tucson. Josh, how are you, hey, 275 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:45.880 gentlemen, Thanks for having me on and looking forward to a great opportunity to 276 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:48.400 be at the game on Saturday, Oregon at Arizona. So tell me what 277 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:52.119 time are you going to be at Michael on Saturday morning? I have to 278 00:18:52.119 --> 00:18:56.599 schedule the red carpet and the trumpets. No need for that on this one. 279 00:18:56.640 --> 00:19:00.839 I appreciate that, Steve, but you know, all focus will be 280 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:06.519 just strictly on the on the Oregon Ducks in the Arizona Wildcat Should be an 281 00:19:06.519 --> 00:19:08.799 interesting game, should be a good game. Lot at stake for both teams. 282 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:12.680 Obviously for Arizona they're trying to hang on to a one seed. They 283 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:17.240 need to continue to win to get that one seed. Trying to obviously play 284 00:19:17.279 --> 00:19:22.440 for a Pac twelve regular season championship, and for Oregon for them to have 285 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:26.240 any shot on being back in the discussion of the bubble, they have to 286 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:30.200 win this game at Arizona on Saturday. It's a must win situation. They 287 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:33.440 do have Colorado and Utah at home the following week, which will give them 288 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:37.880 two more good opportunities, but they have to win this game. So a 289 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:40.759 lot riding on this game for both teams. Well, yeah, and so 290 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:44.119 you know, Steve and I were talking just a few minutes ago because I 291 00:19:44.200 --> 00:19:48.119 was I was surprised to learn that Tennessee is ranked number four and you know, 292 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:49.759 in a position to you know, possibly get get that other number one 293 00:19:49.839 --> 00:19:53.680 seed as well. You know, when you think about and we went to 294 00:19:53.720 --> 00:19:56.640 North Carolina, Tennessee, and really Arizona, who are sort of vying for 295 00:19:56.680 --> 00:20:00.960 the last number one seed. You know, my thought was Arizona is probably 296 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:04.400 the least likely to lose a game because of the strength of the conference versus 297 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:08.039 Tennessee or or North Carolina. What are your thoughts on that? I mean, 298 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:11.759 what what do those three teams need to need to do and who can 299 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:17.839 afford to take a small misstep? Yeah, I would for cert Jay, 300 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:22.799 I would I would one percent say that Purdue, Yukon, and obviously Houston 301 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:26.839 are all three probably going to get three of the four number one seeds. 302 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:33.119 And I think Yukon and Purdue or locks. I think Houston's you know, 303 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:36.519 if you're gonna win the Big twelve, you're probably a lock for that. 304 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:40.759 And then obviously then there's a few other schools fighting for that last number one 305 00:20:40.839 --> 00:20:45.200 and three of the that you mentioned Arizona, Tennessee, uh, possibly Carolina. 306 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:49.680 I really think it's going to be a fight between Arizona Tennessee. You 307 00:20:49.720 --> 00:20:53.119 know, you can maybe you know, see if there's something happens here late 308 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:57.200 of another team out of the SEC, you know, and I don't think 309 00:20:57.200 --> 00:21:00.880 he would happen. You know, let's Tucky made some kind of crazy run 310 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:07.319 or something like that, which I you know, you know, maybe you 311 00:21:07.359 --> 00:21:10.400 know, run the table in this last last stretch year. If there's something 312 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:14.039 in the Big twelve where Iowa State, you know, it made an incredible 313 00:21:15.640 --> 00:21:18.960 run as well too. But I really think it could be fighting down between 314 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:23.480 Tennessee and Arizona. I think actually those two will be above Carolina, and 315 00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:29.359 I just think it comes down to I think if Arizona drops a game in 316 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:33.359 the remaining regular season, I think then it becomes an uphill battle for him. 317 00:21:34.200 --> 00:21:37.400 But I think they need to win. They have to win Saturday, 318 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:41.000 They've got to win next week, and they probably got to win or at 319 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:45.039 least get to the championship of the PAC twelve Championship. And I think that 320 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:48.359 in Left Tennessee won the championship of the SEC. I think as long as 321 00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:52.599 Arizona wins out and then gets to the at least of the Championship of the 322 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:56.200 PAC twelve Championship game, they would put themselves in position to be the one 323 00:21:56.240 --> 00:22:00.480 seed. And you guys know this. You know, look, it makes 324 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:03.039 a big deal for that first round game, but then you know, once 325 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:06.960 you get past that first round game game whoever, it really comes down to 326 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:08.880 the matchup. So you're playing in at eight to nine and if you're the 327 00:22:08.960 --> 00:22:12.160 number one seed, and you know, it just comes down and who you're 328 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:15.759 matched up to and what happens from there. And then if you're forced to 329 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:18.000 win that game, once you get to the sweet sixteen and the lead eight 330 00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:22.440 in that round of those two games, there anything can happen. I mean, 331 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:25.440 it's a crapshoot. It's a you know, it's you got to get 332 00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:27.000 a little lucky. You're gonna have to grind it out. You got to 333 00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:30.400 get a fortunate win along the way. You got to get lucky. And 334 00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:33.599 then of course you've got to have really good players, and which Arizona does. 335 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:37.119 And I think a big key for Arizona guys. You know, obviously 336 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:40.920 I've been so high and I've talked about Johnson for so much just the difference 337 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:45.440 in commy Lloyd's three years. Like, I just think Johnson is such a 338 00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:48.839 difference maker this year because of his ability to defend all five positions on the 339 00:22:48.839 --> 00:22:52.519 floor. But you know, Caleb Love, who I think is going to 340 00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:56.279 be the you know, either the PACT All Player of the Year or one 341 00:22:56.279 --> 00:22:57.599 of the top vote getters from the PACT All Player of the Year. You 342 00:22:57.640 --> 00:23:02.160 know, he's got to A lot will rest on his shoulders and his ability 343 00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:07.559 to make big time games and plays for him in tournament time. And you 344 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:11.279 know, some of the closer games that they've had, they've they've looked to 345 00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:15.599 go to Caleb to lean on them and so and he'd obviously had an outstanding 346 00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:18.319 year. So a lot will be on Caleb Love shoulders as well. So 347 00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:19.519 I can't remember this, Josh, so remind me. I know, in 348 00:23:19.559 --> 00:23:23.759 ninety seven was not a question of whether you'd be a seed or not, 349 00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:26.480 because you were going to be a seed, and it was you know, 350 00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:30.519 your last two games. But when you were in ninety eight, I think 351 00:23:30.519 --> 00:23:33.960 you were the clear number one team. There was no nervousness about not being 352 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:37.039 a number one right. No, And in fact, in fact, Steve, 353 00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:41.480 if you remember in ninety eight we started the year, I think like 354 00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:44.519 we were three and two. We had that loss in MAUI do dude, 355 00:23:44.720 --> 00:23:48.000 we lost the Florida State before the Christmas break. We might have lost one 356 00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:52.880 more too along the way there we weren't really playing well. However, we 357 00:23:53.359 --> 00:23:57.079 got extremely hot, as you know, Steve. After the Christmas break, 358 00:23:57.119 --> 00:24:03.160 we we just we steamed roll to Pack ten and just smashed everyone. And 359 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:07.079 of course we had that unfortunate loss first UFC, we should have gone eighteen 360 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:10.799 and oher at that time we were seventeen and one, and then the next 361 00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:14.039 we lost the USC on Thursday, and the two nights later we just on 362 00:24:14.119 --> 00:24:18.640 a Saturday afternoon just smashed UCLA and then we were playing as well as anyone. 363 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:21.039 We didn't have a conference tournament at that time, the Pack ten did 364 00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:25.200 not have the conference tournament, and then we went rolling into the night Tournament 365 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:27.880 and just still haunts me to this day. Still, I still think about 366 00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:32.279 it daily. It still makes me sick to even talk about it. We 367 00:24:32.319 --> 00:24:36.440 should have been back to back national championships and been in that rare as much 368 00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:38.440 as a rarefight there to win a national championship, to have gone back to 369 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:42.839 back. We just you know, hit a buzzsall in the in the Utah 370 00:24:42.920 --> 00:24:45.599 game, the way we shot the ball and the triangle and two we just 371 00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:49.319 couldn't. We couldn't hit the you know, we couldn't hit the Pacific Ocean 372 00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:53.319 standing on the pier there in Anaheim. We just wasn't able to do it, 373 00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:56.759 and still still haunts me to this day. You could have called you 374 00:24:56.799 --> 00:24:59.440 down again and said, Dad, I told you this is how easy it 375 00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:03.079 is. Yeah. After after we won the first one, I remember calling 376 00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:06.000 my father, this is easy. We're gonna do this every year, And 377 00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:10.279 I remember him vividly telling me that it savor this because it's so hard to 378 00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:14.480 do. It's in this almost an impossible feat. And since then I fully 379 00:25:14.519 --> 00:25:18.720 have understood what he meant, and it is it is a very very hard 380 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:22.200 thing to do. And I will say I do think two things. One, 381 00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:26.880 I do think Arizona is in Tommy Lloyd's this is a third season, 382 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:30.839 and he's done an incredible job. He's he's he's been outstanding, as everybody 383 00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:34.960 knows. But I do think his team is best suited and prepared to make 384 00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:37.519 a run to Glendale, which is where the Final four is at this year, 385 00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:41.440 of any of his three teams, I think this is his best team. 386 00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:45.440 And then secondly, I think Yukon obviously have you know, obviously I've 387 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:49.680 watched a lot of basketball of different teams, different leagues. I think Yukon 388 00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:56.160 has the best chance to repeat as national champions of any team in the last 389 00:25:56.200 --> 00:26:02.559 decade that has that has won a national champion. They have a real legit 390 00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:08.160 chance of repeating. They're really, really good and they have a real shot 391 00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:11.480 at repeating. Okay, as good a chance as you guys thought you had 392 00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:15.039 in ninety eight. Better chance. What do you think? Because I kind 393 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:19.039 of I've kind of compared them to that. I just think that they're I 394 00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:22.079 think they're going to be a tough gut here a couple of things. Number 395 00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:23.519 One, they're all four of their games because they're going to be in the 396 00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:27.599 East region, are going to be you know, it's going to be a 397 00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:33.720 drive driving distance for their fan base. And they really you know, only 398 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:37.519 people you know, you know follow Yukon basketball, but if you they really 399 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:41.480 travel well with their fans. It's sort of like Arizona going to Las Vegas 400 00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:45.920 or or Los Angeles or whatever, San Diego, you know they're going to 401 00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:49.119 have a good following. So that's what happens with Yukon. So I don't 402 00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:52.960 see how they're not getting to Glendale because it's almost going to be like four 403 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:57.880 home games for them. But their talent level, how hard they play, 404 00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:02.960 They've got shooting at all, all spots on the floor. You know, 405 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:04.839 I would say, I don't know if this is good of a shot. 406 00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:08.440 Because the team in ninety seven, we had everyone back, we had multiple 407 00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:14.000 lottery picks, and we just we blew it. I mean, there's no 408 00:27:14.039 --> 00:27:17.160 other way to talk about it. We just we just blew that Utah game. 409 00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:19.319 And now Utah obviously you look who they had that year, and Steve 410 00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:25.200 knows they had a they had a really good team. But but I think 411 00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:29.279 you can it's not the same. But they're in that they're in that talking 412 00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:33.160 uh, in that circle that you could say they've got a real shot. 413 00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:36.359 Any Look, anything can happen when you get to the tournament. But I 414 00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:38.119 just think it's it's gonna be hard for them to be beat at this point. 415 00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:42.640 So do you look as a former coach and current coaches probably still looking, 416 00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:47.039 do you at this time of year March happens, do you look at 417 00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:49.240 teams differently and say, Okay, this team is built for it, not 418 00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:53.640 built for it, or this team cannot afford to do this or that. 419 00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:59.160 Yeah, yes, yes, I can see some different things on that. 420 00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:03.319 And and and Steve, you've you've covered a Jay you understand you you both 421 00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:06.160 of you guys know. And when you get to the tournament in a neutral 422 00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:08.880 site situation, I mean, there's a lot of factors that go involved and 423 00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:14.480 you just you know, it's it's as as rewarding as the profession is, 424 00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:18.240 it can be very grueling at the same time because if you it can be 425 00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:21.200 cruel to you because if you know, you go in the tournament, like 426 00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:23.720 last year Arizona ends up when the PAC twelve championship, had a great year, 427 00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:27.279 and then within six days later they're done. The season is over, 428 00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:30.519 and it's all anyone focused on was a loss to Princeton. And and that's 429 00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:34.640 it's cruel, it's it's it's it's awful as it's just it's it's no fun 430 00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:37.319 when you're because that's what the whole focus is. And it can be just 431 00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:42.759 so abruptly ended. That's what makes the tournament so uh darn special, is 432 00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:48.920 that things can be just up and ended abruptly as as you know, as 433 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:53.680 quick as anything, and so and and you and and what happens in the 434 00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:57.680 tournament. Every team goes through it where to win it or to get to 435 00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:02.119 a deep end of the final four, you're going through, you're gonna play 436 00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:06.079 a game where you don't play well. You just kind of get out physical. 437 00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:10.480 There's it's a grimy, grinding type of game, and it's an ugly 438 00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:14.160 game. You're not shooting it well. But those are the games you have 439 00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:18.640 to find a way to win the game and to be able to advance. 440 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:22.000 And it's sort of like Steve knows, like with us in ninety seven when 441 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:23.880 we won it all, we had that South Alabama game. It was an 442 00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:29.279 ugly bad basketball game in a way, but you had to find a way 443 00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:32.920 to win that, to to put yourselves in a position. And that's what 444 00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:37.599 happens and the teams every team usually encounters that. Now, Yukon last year 445 00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:42.640 did not encounter that. They were stressed free in their six games in March. 446 00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:48.880 They went right through and and and beat everybody pretty handily. So you 447 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.920 know, they that that was kind of not the norm, but most teams 448 00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:56.960 will have to encounter that and be able to get through that. Josh Passner, 449 00:29:57.319 --> 00:30:02.680 You'll be on the call for esp IN on Saturday with the Arizona Oregon 450 00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:07.240 also player and coach at Arizona and coach at Georgia Tech and Memphis and all 451 00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:10.319 these cool places. So so, Josh, a little bit about Arizona. 452 00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:12.599 Now, I don't know if you got a chance to watch a game last 453 00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:17.359 night. You know, I thought, I thought, so what what you 454 00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:18.559 know? What do you make of these guys? Because Steve and I talk 455 00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:23.720 about all the time their unpredictability, call it inconsistency from one game to the 456 00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:26.359 next, and even within a game. Uh, you know, as you 457 00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:30.640 made some runs at them last night, I'm sure Arizona fans are nervous about 458 00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:33.720 that. What what are your thoughts on what these guys are doing game in 459 00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:36.400 and game out? Yeah, Jay, you know. Look, I mean 460 00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:38.000 one is it's really hard to win on the road. I mean, I 461 00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:41.119 don't care what it is. I mean they've you know, obviously even playing 462 00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:45.519 at Arizona State, and I know Arizona has favored going in and keep the 463 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.960 fan base and expecting them just to you know, win by a lot. 464 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:52.400 But it's hard. Winning on the road is really hard. It's really really 465 00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:56.359 hard, and and and so any road win is is a special win. 466 00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.240 Uh but but Jay, you you ailed it. I mean, you didn't 467 00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.240 even need me to come on in this segment to say it. It's everything 468 00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:08.759 about Arizona is consistency, and it's it's it's all about consistency with them. 469 00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:14.000 It's the consistency of Caleb Love because when he's playing as like the PAC twelfth 470 00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:18.119 Player of the Year, they're just a different team. So if Arizona is 471 00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:22.440 playing at a high level defensively with the consistency of of their ability to do 472 00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:26.400 it, they're a high level team. I mean obviously offensively, there's they're 473 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:29.359 as good as anyone. They're as fast as anyone. They can score as 474 00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:33.400 well as anybody. They're great in offensive transition. Uh, they move the 475 00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:37.440 ball, they share the ball. But it really comes down to the keyword, 476 00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.519 Jay, Are they? Are they? The consistency of them? I 477 00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:44.680 mean, you know, they've had a couple of times where they've been inconsistent, 478 00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:47.880 and uh, and there's and there's been some losses to show for that, 479 00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:51.880 and and and and I would also tell you this what will be interesting 480 00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:56.079 is can and you brought this up earlier J two, that you know, 481 00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:00.640 they haven't seen the physicality night in, night out that maybe the Big twelve, 482 00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:06.680 the SEC, the Big East you know, has seen every time they 483 00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:09.720 step on the floor, and so maybe Arizona hasn't seen that as much. 484 00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:15.000 Will that be a factor when they get to the NT tw A tournament and 485 00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:20.279 maybe the game is called differently, you know, by the officiating, and 486 00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:23.400 so how will that you know, how will that be? How do the 487 00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:28.720 guys respond? So, look, Arizona is really good. It would not 488 00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:31.519 like there'd be no upset for them to win the national championship. Like they're 489 00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:36.720 good enough to win the entire national championship. And you guys know this, 490 00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.559 like, there's only a certain amount of teams that can realistic. Someone might 491 00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:44.079 get hot and win and win it. But you guys know there's a there's 492 00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:47.079 a there's a number of teams that you can count on your one hand, 493 00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:52.079 maybe two hands total, that has a realistic shot of winning it all on 494 00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:55.039 Arizona is one of them. Yeah, but but you know how they respond 495 00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:59.880 in the in a situation where it could be a you know, just a 496 00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:04.039 dogfight of a game or or you know, whatever it may be, or 497 00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:07.039 the physicality of something that they haven't seen a lot in the Pac twelve, 498 00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:09.000 that's gonna be that that's gonna be the question mark. And that's where you 499 00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:12.359 mentioned the word consistency. Okay, we have someone to ask you, but 500 00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:15.160 we have about two minutes. I'm gonna let uh, I'm gonna let Jay 501 00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:21.799 give you some career career, career career advice. But you must be enjoying 502 00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:24.400 what you're doing right now. I love what I'm doing. I'm having a 503 00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:29.240 blast. It's been outstanding. I've worked with great people, I've worked for 504 00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:32.599 great people, I've worked with with multiple networks, so I really have have 505 00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:35.839 had a good time with it. It's it's now. It's a lot of 506 00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:38.599 travel, but I've but I've really had a blastet that I've really enjoyed it 507 00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:43.519 more fun in the studio or or at the games. You know what, 508 00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:47.720 I've enjoyed both. It's they're both different, and I like both of them. 509 00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:51.200 And uh, you know, when you're at the games, you get 510 00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:54.079 the the adrenaline rush and you're there at the atmosphere and the energy. Obviously 511 00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:58.680 in studio you're you're watching a lot of games all at once. But I 512 00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:01.200 I I really like both. Don't have a don't have a preference on either. 513 00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:07.039 Okay, hey you saw your buddy last night. Mike maybe as big 514 00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:10.079 as ever. And I'm sure I guess I joked to him. For a 515 00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:14.119 guy who doesn't like to talk or didn't like to talk thirty years ago, 516 00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:19.719 it is now talking for the Sacramento Kings. He's really doing he's really doing 517 00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:22.000 well for him. I know he wants to try to also get into coaching. 518 00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:25.280 Told me and and and the other thing is he he looks like he's 519 00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:30.599 obviously a bodybuilder, and he like crazy he couldn't play basketball anymore because his 520 00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:35.239 shoulders and his biceps are too big, but he's doing well, and he's 521 00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:39.519 doing well for himself. And what an incredible player that that that he was 522 00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:44.760 both in high school obviously at the University of Arizona and then in the NBA, 523 00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.480 you know, one of the great guards just and he's done extremely, 524 00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:51.559 extremely well and he's a great guy. Okay, I just wanted to say, 525 00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:53.679 Josh, because I made a comment last time you were on about all 526 00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:58.360 the pieces of paper that you have on the desk when you're doing the studio 527 00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:00.679 show. I'm just gonna let you know right now, make sure that you're 528 00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:06.360 aware we're only giving you one copy of the stats during timeouts on Saturday. 529 00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:08.239 Okay, just one, that's all you get. Every time I'm in studio, 530 00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:12.400 people are like they can't believe all my notes that I have out all 531 00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:16.039 the I have all these papers of notes, and I'm treating it like I'm 532 00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:21.639 the head coach Scott in preparation for a game and so no, but but 533 00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:23.559 but the good news is when you're when I'm at a game, I'm only 534 00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:27.480 got paper for two teams, but I'm in the studio, I've got to 535 00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:30.960 be locked in for about twenty different teams. So uh, well, I'll 536 00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.519 make sure I'm doing the game with the legendary Dave Pash on Saturday, so 537 00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.280 I'll make sure I don't take up any of his space, and I keep 538 00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:39.599 my thing nice and neat on the on media row. Right now, do 539 00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:44.000 me a favorite next time you're in studio, take the dentist with you. 540 00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:52.800 That would be classic glad, would be classic. Little little shield there they 541 00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:54.280 a lot of people have asked me about that to wear at one time. 542 00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:57.320 I might one of these days they have to pull it out, break it 543 00:35:57.360 --> 00:35:59.639 out, break it out. Thank you, Josh, Shosh. We'll see 544 00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:04.280 you sad day Saturday guy. Thank you, Jesh Pastor. You didn't give 545 00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:07.880 me your advice? What stop coaching and just do this? Oh yeah, 546 00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:10.280 I'm not even gonna say that to him? Are you kidding me? See, 547 00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:14.559 you talked talk, You talked talk. When it came down to it, 548 00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:17.480 you could do it. No, you know what I forgot what it 549 00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:22.519 was what you're referring to. That's what happened. I supposed to tell hell 550 00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:25.119 is he talking about? All right, let's take our break. We're gonna 551 00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:28.960 come back. Last segment. We'll take your calls. Five two zero four, 552 00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:30.480 one six seventy four to forty. Steve and I have a couple of 553 00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:34.239 topics, but would love to hear anything that you want to talk about, 554 00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:37.360 So stick around. If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's 555 00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.239 been successful for nearly forty years. Now take a look back at the Ludelsen 556 00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:43.920 era in my new book, Lessons from Loot. 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Gotta guy said with us. 600 00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:00.440 Should have so many very here to visit. So the question we couldn't talk 601 00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:02.760 to Josh always It's always great, he said, you know, he's so 602 00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:07.119 good Again when he was here as a player, he knew that he was 603 00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:10.320 he could be doing media or anyone of a number of things. He was 604 00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:15.840 always so well spoken. You're just smart dude, hard worker, does his 605 00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:20.320 homework, knows his stuff really good for diligent, you know. Okay, 606 00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:23.599 So let's go back to the question. Sam tweeted at me, Steve, 607 00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:29.880 do you think you blows leads with poor decision making and still is still dependent 608 00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:32.360 on threes when they don't need to shoot them. First of all, I 609 00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:38.719 don't think they blow leads by that meaning that like they're doing something wrong or 610 00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:43.440 doing something horrible that they blow leads all the time. The Steve is was 611 00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:47.159 gonna say, is other teams are playing and other teams to do things, 612 00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:53.199 and every and every coach will tell you that they're always and even Tommy said 613 00:40:53.199 --> 00:40:57.079 it last night, they're always expecting the other team, whether it's a football 614 00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:00.760 game, a baseball game, a basketball and whatever, to make a run 615 00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:06.039 because their competitors they compete there. You know, it's very few instances where 616 00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:08.559 a team just lays down. And I know we've seen that in the past, 617 00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:13.480 and we've seen Arizona teams do that, uh, particularly in the Kevin 618 00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:19.239 Summeling years. But the point being that to imply that they blow leads, 619 00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:22.679 Do they lose leads, Yes, I don't think they blow them, like 620 00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:27.639 they quit playing and you know, other teams are going to do stuff and 621 00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:30.960 and and then you've got to figure out what they're doing to end a run 622 00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:35.559 or whatever it is. So and I just think that no. I think 623 00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:38.079 if if, if the three is there, they get it. You know, 624 00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:42.519 when I was watching them last night, you know, when a cut 625 00:41:42.559 --> 00:41:45.119 that lead, I'm like, they could use a three, but just get 626 00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:46.760 it, Just get somewhere and get a basket, Just get a basket. 627 00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:51.400 So you don't I don't think they rely on three. So so last night. 628 00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:52.880 I wanted to use this in my story today, but I didn't because 629 00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:58.000 I spaced it like we do things today. But to me, it's like 630 00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:00.280 a child. You feed them them like a little child, and they eat 631 00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:04.320 all the food, they get bored and then they start kind of like you 632 00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:07.639 know what, playing with their food past, and that's what they kind of 633 00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:10.880 do. Uh, we've got a fourteen point lead, let's just show up 634 00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:15.400 and win the game. Blah blah blah. Sometimes and other times the team, 635 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:17.199 the team comes out. In fact, Bobby Hurley, did you see 636 00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:21.639 his comments? I had one of my said he's seen since he's been there. 637 00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:24.519 Yeah, that and he said that it was almost like methodical that he 638 00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:29.559 had him right where they wanted him in the second half because he knew that 639 00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:31.280 they were gonna come out and play hard. His team. Yeah, and 640 00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:35.440 they did, and they did and they did so you know, and Arizona 641 00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:38.079 just withstood that and didn't They didn't panic, they didn't freak out. They 642 00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:40.679 just did what they were doing. You know, the guys that they have 643 00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:44.880 can make the plays that they make, so I know, I don't think 644 00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:47.599 they rely on the three. I think they use it right because they have 645 00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:52.000 it well last night. Also, don't did you did you watch all Tommy? 646 00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:58.320 He talked about something we talked about every now and again with love I 647 00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:00.000 have. I feel little uncomfortable what he does with the threes, like no, 648 00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:02.960 no, no, good shot? Yeah, you know we all everybody 649 00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:06.159 does that. What are you doing with a twenty five footer? And then 650 00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:07.679 he makes it? Yeah? But see I see him take it every time 651 00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:12.599 he takes a shot. I think he's gonna make it every time? Does 652 00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.639 he? Well? Yeah, but that's what I'm saying there. And I 653 00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:21.400 can't remember the last time Arizona had a guy that when he lined up for 654 00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:24.880 a three that I thought, this is going in Selene right, Selene right, 655 00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:29.360 But but he's not Selene that. No, he's not Selene. But 656 00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:34.320 he's better than anybody I think they've had since Selen since then. Don't don't 657 00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:37.119 and don't throw what's your name Gabe York out there? All right, don't 658 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:42.519 throw any of those guys out there, you know? But so uh but 659 00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:46.079 every time, I every time he even though the ones were, there are 660 00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:50.440 times where he's like, you know, twenty five feet and somebody, some 661 00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:52.039 guy's just gonna let him shoot that. They shoot the damn ball. Yeah, 662 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:57.519 well Tommy feels the same way as everybody else. Yeah, okay, 663 00:43:57.559 --> 00:44:00.559 good shot. Yeah, but but he wants to tail it. No, 664 00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:04.360 he's only got three or four games left to look and and and and look 665 00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:07.360 what what he what Caleb Love has done so far his work for them. 666 00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:09.320 Has he made the one at the end that they need to make to win 667 00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:13.320 a game? He has not? And so that's a question of Okay, 668 00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:17.360 so is there something besides you know the fact that you're taking a shot. 669 00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:21.039 Is it the fact that you're taking a shot to win a game? Is 670 00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:23.480 that messing with your head or something like that? I don't know. Well, 671 00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:25.760 let's look go to the callers and see what they feel about if we 672 00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:30.760 get a caller too with their trust and Caleb too, because some like him 673 00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:34.920 doing what he's doing. Some say well what are you doing? And I 674 00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:36.960 know there's people out there who say that, you know, he's got to 675 00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:39.719 give up the ball more that he forces it sometimes and maybe he does. 676 00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:44.719 I was looking for him to force it last when he got to it. 677 00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:45.920 When he did, when when when as you cut into the lead, he 678 00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:49.639 did. I was looking for him to say, I'm doing this myself. 679 00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:51.320 Get the hell out of the way. And he did not do that. 680 00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:53.039 That's why I loved his game last night. Only took twelve shots. Yeah, 681 00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:57.599 hit five two crucial threes. I love the way you played last night 682 00:44:57.639 --> 00:45:00.800 because it was not over over the he's a volu shooter. He didn't go 683 00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:05.239 up the past that he made the pella was was unbelievable that the full copacity. 684 00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:07.719 Yeah, make this call. Hi, you're on the air andline on 685 00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:12.280 the ball. Hi, Jay, Hi, Steve, this is done. 686 00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:19.679 What's up done? I gotta disagree with Jay. Okay, when you give 687 00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:28.199 up sixteen points of your need in about a dozen possessions, that's flowing a 688 00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:36.639 lead. If you give up sixteen points over eight minutes, that's losing a 689 00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:40.000 lead. And that's what this team does. And that's the part that's why 690 00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:46.559 the question comes up, is because they'll be sitting there twelve fourteen points ahead 691 00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:50.519 and next thing you know, it's only two, and then the other team 692 00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:53.719 makes a three pointer. Now they're down one. Those are blown leads. 693 00:45:55.519 --> 00:46:00.800 When when it happens that fast, that's blowing a lead. In my opinion, 694 00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:04.119 Okay, I hear you. This is this is like my debate with 695 00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:07.400 you a momentum novementium. Well, I come with don I mean, it's 696 00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:10.360 not that they're purposely blowing it. They're just losing the lead, which is 697 00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:14.960 kind of similar. It's coming the same you were talking the same language. 698 00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:17.679 I guess what I what I was trying to be clear is that when you 699 00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:22.599 say they blow the leads, it's like, yeah, like they're like they're 700 00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:25.400 not like they stop trying. And I don't think they do that. I 701 00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:29.519 think, you know, other teams come at them, and they and they 702 00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:31.840 and they and you know, they catch up or you know, cut into 703 00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:35.960 the leads or whatever. I don't think they purposely and I don't think they 704 00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:37.559 stop playing hard. I think, you know, there are times when other 705 00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:42.400 teams play better and they and they and they catch up. That's what I 706 00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:45.599 was I guess that's what I was saying. Well, yeah, I mean 707 00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:50.480 during the game, sometimes the momentum switch to the other side, like really 708 00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:55.920 fast, and Arizona misses the shots that they always take. I mean, 709 00:46:55.960 --> 00:47:00.880 they always take the long jump shots when they have them, or they try 710 00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:04.280 to go inside, you know, when they have it, and it just 711 00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:07.840 seems like sometimes the momentum switches to what the other side and the lead goes 712 00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:13.280 away pretty quickly. But they play fast and that might be a part of 713 00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:16.400 that. Yeah, yeah, that could be too right. Their possessions don't 714 00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:19.800 last a long, that's the whole thing. And they started l's if they 715 00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:22.280 had eleven turnovers, which last game they only have five in the forty five 716 00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:28.119 point blowout. They do kind of fays play fast and loose sometimes when they 717 00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:34.079 don't have to. I agree. I think I think that there are times 718 00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:38.719 where you can, when the lead's getting away from you, work the ball 719 00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:44.440 a little bit, get a good shot, make it a layup or one 720 00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:49.400 of those middle eights and flooters, and make the other team wait to get 721 00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:52.239 back on offense. But they don't do that. That's not the way they 722 00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:54.239 play. And yeah, you know, if they do that doesn't work. 723 00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:59.239 You know what the criticism will be, why are you playing to not lose 724 00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:02.320 the game, because that happens too and that's how other teams catch up. 725 00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:07.719 I just I don't think anybody plays not win the game. Do you know 726 00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:10.719 that way? You know? Yeah, right, exactly exactly, And that's 727 00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:14.280 to Jay's point, but no, exactly. You start kind of playing prevent 728 00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:17.159 defense and they start scoring, right, you know what I'm saying. Oh 729 00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:25.320 yeah, right, exactly, Okay, done, thanks about don thank guy. 730 00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:28.679 Yeah, anybody want to call him please do five, two, four, 731 00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:30.800 one sixty. Uh. Let me ask you another thing. Do you 732 00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:37.719 your thoughts on the ball? The battle umer? Uh? Eight straight double 733 00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:43.519 doubles. I think he's changed some minds of people who were calling him soft, 734 00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:45.800 right Uh. And maybe that's still the case. But he's done very 735 00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:50.639 well in the last two months. He's a factor and and and he's he's 736 00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:54.800 the guy that clearly as the season is moving along, he's getting better and 737 00:48:54.960 --> 00:49:00.719 better and better to the point of he's pretty reliable right now. Yeah, 738 00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:02.920 I know one of them is his rebounding has gotten better, right, Yeah, 739 00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:07.800 he's getting I mean he got some he got some key and hard rebounds 740 00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:12.519 last night where you know as you missed like like I mean, I still 741 00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:15.039 can't you know that the rebound that he didn't get at the end of the 742 00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:17.159 Washington State game, you know where if he gets that rebound, aires won 743 00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:20.760 to wins that game and where not. Nobody's worried about anything right now, 744 00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:25.000 right, but I feel like he's he's gotten tougher underneath the basket. He's 745 00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:30.599 getting more of the fifty to fifty balls and and more importantly, he's getting 746 00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:35.320 the ones he should get. And that's what I've seen. But you know, 747 00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:38.519 the stretch of double doubles first time since Alf Fleming. We're talking in 748 00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:42.239 the mid seventies, right then, there was anybody's done that, and there's 749 00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:45.119 a gun him eating who was here to do that? Didn't do that, 750 00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:49.360 and didn't do that and set a record for uh you know, set a 751 00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:52.440 pack cub record for double doubles, uh, you know, in that one 752 00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:57.119 season. So I mean to your point, I think that I think you 753 00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:00.960 said this and maybe just said it differently. The pieces are coming together. 754 00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:04.960 They seemed to be seven or eight guys, you know strong because to me, 755 00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:07.840 the last piece that's kind of been missing over the last seven games has 756 00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:12.679 been Colin Boswell. He had one great game. It would if he gets 757 00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:15.519 you know, if he gets into some ass, Josh Passer said, starts 758 00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:19.599 being a little more consistent with that, and maybe, you know, maybe 759 00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:22.760 getting yelled at on the court by Tommy, by Tommy Lloyd. I think 760 00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:27.519 that's helped. Last week Tremo may have flipped the switch, I think. 761 00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:29.960 So we talked to both of them about it. I think you know how 762 00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:32.199 that is. You kind of just recalibrate and say, yeah it. Maybe 763 00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:35.840 you realize, Okay, I was doing I was being stupid, or I 764 00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:38.920 was doing some bad decision making bad decision. I wasn't given the effort that 765 00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:42.719 that was expected me. And somebody had to call me on it. Sure, 766 00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:45.079 and it was the boss and it was the bos and he called him 767 00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:49.239 on it in such a big way. Everybody got to see it, almost 768 00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:52.920 to the point where you almost had kind of felt like he apologized, I'm 769 00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:54.639 telling Tommy, yeah not but and then you saw that, you know. 770 00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:58.679 Boswell said, he texted him that day and apologized for the effort and the 771 00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:00.960 whole he realized. Maybe there was the realization, Okay, whatever I'm doing, 772 00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:05.320 no, that's what he said, that's not working. I gotta stop 773 00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:08.360 doing that. He said, I realized that that's what he's there to get 774 00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:15.079 on me. Yeah, and he was and and uh, I don't know 775 00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:19.679 if it was meal Box or who was on Roberts Robinson, one of the 776 00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:25.320 two of them last night said when Colin Boswell is good, Arizona can win 777 00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:30.159 the National champions Jay, okay, I'll go you there. Yes, we 778 00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:36.320 know that if what Pella Larson is good and didn't Josh to say, if 779 00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:39.960 Caleb Blove is Taylor Blove. Guess what they're talking about? Pieces you're talking 780 00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:44.800 about, pieces about all those pieces, but the has been missing. This 781 00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:46.880 is the one thing that national people, the national people is there. Arizona's 782 00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:51.760 great. Guess what they see those games or see those stretches. They don't 783 00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:55.960 see the bad bad Arizona, right, but they see those stretches where God, 784 00:51:57.039 --> 00:51:59.639 this team is really good. Really yeah, it's like good, you 785 00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:01.199 see good. I've been saying that McHale's not like what it used to be. 786 00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:04.760 Blah blah blah. Get over here. When was the last time he 787 00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:07.159 was here? Get over here, you know, and let me. Can 788 00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:09.760 I tell you how to raise your kids when you don't have no kid, 789 00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:13.320 you can try well, you know what I say. People who tell me 790 00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:16.960 how to raise a kid you don't have any kids, shut up. That's 791 00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:22.559 kind of it's appropriate. Come to the games and let me tell you. 792 00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:24.440 Yeah, get I get here and then tell us, you know, right, 793 00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:28.719 not just one game, yeah, come here in a few Yeah, 794 00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:31.719 I mean that Washington State game, even in a loss, that was and 795 00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:35.719 with the lights in the camera. It was crazy. So if you miss 796 00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:39.400 those games, oh I wasn't there, well, didn't shut up. Yeah, 797 00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:42.280 and I'll tell you how to raise your kids, even though I don't 798 00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:45.800 have it. All right, it was fun. Josh Passer, thanks for 799 00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:49.079 being here. Anthony Leone, good luck to you. And then Audrey Human 800 00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:52.320 isn't her quest to get on the Olympic team. We might have a good 801 00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:59.079 guest tomorrow, doctor President Robert C. Robbins joining us, and we're gonna 802 00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:00.840 we're gonna ask some questions. Well yeah, you know, and he knows 803 00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:06.519 that, and we're not on the So doctor Robbins will be joining us at 804 00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:09.079 three fifteen tomorrow, so be sure to check in on that and we'll get 805 00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:14.079 to some of the issues and then Jake Fisher and maybe another guest on top 806 00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:16.760 of that. So be sure to come back tomorrow and we'll get on it 807 00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:20.480 and then head into the weekend. So be sure to be back tomorrow.