WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.080 --> 00:00:15.000 Yo, don't be bad. It's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do 2 00:00:15.039 --> 00:00:18.640 this for October nineteenth, twenty twenty three. For the next hour or so, 3 00:00:19.039 --> 00:00:22.399 let me help you sort through the world of gaming on gamess Mornings Live 4 00:00:22.440 --> 00:00:26.519 with me Jeff Grubb. Today, Nintendo fans think the company might be preparing 5 00:00:26.559 --> 00:00:30.839 for a switch to info drop and we might know when the next PlayStation is 6 00:00:30.879 --> 00:00:34.600 releasing. But first, please join me in welcoming today's co host to game 7 00:00:34.600 --> 00:00:37.840 Mess Mornings. It's Jane Choa. Everybody, Jan how are you doing on 8 00:00:37.880 --> 00:00:42.560 this Thursday. I'm doing terrible because yesterday at a local jamba juice, I 9 00:00:42.560 --> 00:00:48.159 guess they're just called jambas now they are man the young man at the cashier 10 00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:52.159 and said hello, sir, and then I told him my order and then 11 00:00:52.159 --> 00:00:56.079 he just looked at me finger guns and went yazerski. And I'm like, 12 00:00:56.159 --> 00:01:00.719 what the fuck did you just say to me? Is is that related to 13 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:04.359 uh? Skid it? No? Because I think like he just added a 14 00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:08.280 ski to yes, sir. It's it's a Polish yes sir. I see, 15 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:14.400 okay, right, I understand now. And then I felt so old 16 00:01:14.439 --> 00:01:19.519 and then I fell yesterday because I twisted my ankle just standing up. Okay, 17 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:26.159 I see what. I can't hang out with you guys anymore. I 18 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:33.319 can't hang out with the game you're catching what we have age. I can't 19 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:36.079 hang out with the game Spot crew either, because we're all the same age, 20 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:38.879 so we're all aging together. Uh huh. You guys are like looking 21 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:46.159 at each other and being like you use yep ye. Now I realize why 22 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:51.120 why the older crew hired Ben Abbey, and I was like, oh, 23 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:55.959 we need we need their you, we need their there you're young and juice. 24 00:01:56.000 --> 00:02:00.280 We need we got just like feast upon their souls. Yeah, I 25 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:04.519 mean it seemed to work. It seems to do something we need to do 26 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:09.719 that I need. I need to absorb youth. Yeah. It's you know, 27 00:02:09.719 --> 00:02:13.240 it's double sided, right, because then you got to listen to them 28 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:15.400 talk about the N sixty four and it's like, oh, man, that's 29 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:19.280 all right. I don't have any feelings. Yeah, that's okay, that's 30 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:23.360 my own old man across I have to carry. Uh. Yeah, I 31 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:28.439 don't know. It's I am at a point where I'm thinking about the fact 32 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:30.120 I'm going to be playing Super Mario Brothers Wonder tonight and that's all I can 33 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:35.759 kind of think about. I'm so excited. Wow yeah, man, yeah, 34 00:02:35.840 --> 00:02:38.960 okay, yeah, that's true. Did you beat Sonic get that? 35 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:42.879 Well, let's I mean, we don't have to get in the specifics. 36 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:46.680 I'm very close. I'm very close. The more I played that game, 37 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:50.039 the more I don't like it's it's it's rough. It's a rough game. 38 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:53.599 Did you like Sonic Mania. That's the one Sonic game that I kind of 39 00:02:54.360 --> 00:03:00.199 without caveats, enjoy and think it's very good and and you know, so 40 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:04.599 that clearly that means Sonic can be good and has been good, and the 41 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:07.800 parts it brings to those Genesis games, which I think are okay, but 42 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:09.800 I have my issues with them whatever. Some of them are skill issues, 43 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:13.520 whatever, but a lot of it's just like it doesn't mess with me, 44 00:03:13.599 --> 00:03:15.800 Like the Mega Man games don't really mess without the way I play. I 45 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:19.479 don't think the Mega Man games are bad, though, I think Sonic can 46 00:03:19.919 --> 00:03:22.560 be bad even when people some think some of those games are good. This 47 00:03:22.599 --> 00:03:25.879 one's just kind of mostly boring, mostly uninspired, and the boss fights are 48 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:30.879 just all kind of silly in their they're trying to elongate them. In the 49 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:34.680 previous Sonic Games. You could, like, you know, just get a 50 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:37.680 bunch of hits in on the boss really quickly, and it's like, oh, 51 00:03:37.719 --> 00:03:40.560 that kind of trivializes it. It's good to be trivialized if there's not 52 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:43.759 a lot going on in the boss fight. And there's still not a lot 53 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:46.680 going on, but they like have these long faces where you can't actually hit 54 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:51.240 the boss, even with the special powers that I've now unlocked a lot more 55 00:03:51.280 --> 00:03:53.840 of realizing that that would be helpful. It is helpful, but it doesn't 56 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:59.080 always make the boss fights go buy that much faster. So and then Mike 57 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:02.800 tweeted last night that I'm not going to like the final boss in that game, 58 00:04:03.039 --> 00:04:05.719 so I'm gonna have to see what that is. I think I have 59 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:10.800 one zone left, so two X and then I'll get to that final boss 60 00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:14.000 and we'll see how that goes. I'll do that today at some point, 61 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:16.199 and then I'll be ready for Mario. There we go, it's all lineup, 62 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:20.199 There we go, greb All right, let's uh it's Bowser says poop 63 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:25.360 some poos thump. That'd be great. I would like that. Let's explain 64 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:28.040 what we do here most weekdays. I Jeff grub will help piece your gaming 65 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:30.839 life back together. That includes breaking news and maybe even some of our own 66 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:34.399 original reporting. For all these topics, I'll get the input of a bona 67 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:39.079 fide expert who will make me look smart. If you're watching live on twitch 68 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:42.800 Welcome, You can always listen to the show later on podcast feeds by searching 69 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:46.519 for Game Game Mess Mornings, or find the RSS on giant bomb dot com. 70 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:50.160 You can also catch the show later with chapters and timestamps on YouTube. 71 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:55.560 Hello YouTube. Okay, we have a lot to get into, so let's 72 00:04:55.560 --> 00:05:00.560 start the morning mess with The original Switch Revealed trailer has been remo moved from 73 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:04.680 Nintendo's YouTube channel. This is from Jim Norman at Nintendo Life. Get ready 74 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:09.040 to put on your detective hats, folks, because there's a mystery afoot. 75 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:12.959 The Nintendo Switch Revealed trailer, you know, the one where groups of trendy 76 00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:16.240 people play the up and coming console at such memorable and realistic venues as a 77 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:21.000 rooftop party or at a basketball court, has been removed from the official Nintendo 78 00:05:21.079 --> 00:05:25.600 YouTube channel. This was first brought to our at Tension by Reddit user carb 79 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:30.399 Van on our reddit slash r slash Gaming leaks and rumors, and sure enough, 80 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:32.959 looking at the YouTube channel in question, the revealed trailer is nowhere to 81 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:36.759 be found. Of course, the video remains available online through outer outlets, 82 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:40.920 the ones posted by game spot, for example, so you could still find 83 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:44.519 inspiration for which wacky and one ful location you will play your switch next. 84 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:47.800 But the question still stands why has it been removed from its initial source? 85 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:54.279 Now? Jan, I think if weems razor this first, let's do that 86 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:58.439 first. Let's aw coome this raylets let's ocom this razor for once. Jan. 87 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:03.639 Licensing issues, right, this is you make, you make a commercial, 88 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:08.240 and a lot of that's going to be done by a production company. 89 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:12.879 H Maybe this was probably not done it fully internally at Nintendo. They probably 90 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:15.920 worked with a marketing partner, and that marketing partner is going to do what 91 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:17.759 they do with everything, which is they're going to record some original stuff and 92 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:20.759 then they're gonna pull from libraries, and that means they're gonna have to license 93 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:24.519 stuff. And maybe one of the things is say, hey, we had 94 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:28.240 an ongoing license as part of subscription. We've now switched services and we don't 95 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:30.800 have that anymore, and we need to notify our clients that the thing that 96 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:33.839 they made might not be covered on our end, maybe they can do it 97 00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:38.759 themselves, and Nintendo just says, nah, we're good, We're just gonna 98 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:43.519 take it down. That's the simplest solution and simplest answer. I think that's 99 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:46.399 probably right. You might be more familiar with this side of things than I 100 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:49.519 am. Is. Does that sound right to you? It sounds right, 101 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:55.920 But I feel like for a client that is as big as Nintendo, yeah, 102 00:06:56.199 --> 00:07:00.120 you would have cleared a library just so those whatever rights are a little 103 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:05.879 bit more ever green, especially if it's like dealing with something that is a 104 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:13.279 trailer for the launch of your next major console. I was jokingly thinking that 105 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:17.639 maybe he was a background actor that may have had an issue or something. 106 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:25.399 Oh sure, like something may have popped up where a background actor someone or 107 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:29.240 someone even involved with the production may have gone into some hot water and that 108 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:32.600 would cause Nintendo, now you could see that react to want to pull it 109 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:38.959 down. The music and other assets make a lot more sense. I thought 110 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:41.920 for a second as well, that rooftops were canceled. Yeah, I mean 111 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:45.399 maybe just rooftap. They don'tant to encourage people to be on rooftops. You 112 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:48.480 know, earthquakes are happening all the time constantly pretty much, so yeah there, 113 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:51.959 Yeah, how'd you guys? Did you feel that one yesterday? Not 114 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:57.959 at all? Okay, not in the slightest Well, still keep safe, 115 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:03.040 Jan, But okay, so the outcomes raiser stuff, Yeah, maybe probably 116 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:07.160 licensing, maybe the possibility that someone involved with it is is problematic now or 117 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:11.560 something like that. I think that's a reasonable thing to consider as a possibility 118 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:15.360 here. Yeah. Yeah, what we're gonna say, well, you were 119 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:20.240 probably bless you. The thing we're probably heading to is this being like them 120 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:24.639 taking the initial trailer down to promote a new trailer, and that just doesn't 121 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:28.639 make sense to me either though, Like that that train of thought I can't 122 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:33.559 follow. So that's that is where not everybody but some people are speculating and 123 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:37.200 everyone who not ever, most people who are speculating that are going now listen, 124 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:41.159 I know is probably not the case, but what if? And I 125 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:43.799 think if we truyt, like, let's work backwards from let's say that is 126 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:46.240 what's happening here, Jan, let's just play along, Like, I think 127 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:50.200 I can find ways to justify why Nintendo might do that, and that those 128 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:56.399 reasons mostly being the we you experience that they had where uh, they think 129 00:08:56.519 --> 00:08:58.960 maybe in their heads, and they're probably right about this, that there was 130 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:05.679 confusion about the WU versus the Wii, and they want to avoid that happening 131 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:09.360 again. Now, I think removing the original launch trailer for the Switch doesn't 132 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:13.360 really address anything that might happen where it's like, hey, this is called 133 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:16.720 a switch, you like that. That's not going to really help that much. 134 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:20.720 But I can see how someone might say, well, let's just remove 135 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:22.639 that so there's no confusion when people go looking for this trailer. That would 136 00:09:22.679 --> 00:09:26.360 have to be someone who doesn't really understand how YouTube works. But at Nintendo, 137 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:31.360 I can't imagine that. That feels like a big stretch. It feels 138 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:35.120 like a real, real, real stretch. Jan even then, to try 139 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:39.639 and avoid market confusion for another similarly named product, I also feel like, 140 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:43.120 I know we clown on Nintendo a lot for not knowing how to operate online, 141 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:48.399 but I would have to assume they've learned their lesson and they're not gonna 142 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:54.240 call the successor to the Switch to switch You or something so close in the 143 00:09:54.320 --> 00:10:01.399 name, just to avoid like that debacle again. I still, even then 144 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:05.440 with the caveat of like, oh, maybe just to avoid people online being 145 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:11.799 dumb. I despite a lot of people on the internet being dumb, I'm 146 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:13.879 going to give them a little bit more credit than that. Yes, I 147 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:18.759 think I agree with you a pair of Okay, so the original trailer did 148 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:26.039 have a licensed song ha ha ha ha yeah by White Denim and that then 149 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:30.120 let's see that appears to be I'm gonna read this from the story now. 150 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:33.639 A Reddit user they call me Radick, points out that song appears to be 151 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:37.919 in some legal trouble after the track's initial distributors were recently taken over by another 152 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:41.639 company. I think we have our answer right there, right, Yeah, 153 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:46.159 Yeah, it turns out it may not be even a licensing issue on Nintendo 154 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:52.279 or the market or the production company's fault, but the actual band itself. 155 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:54.480 Yep. We've seen a lot of this pop up within this past year. 156 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:58.960 Even I mean there was like the whole stuff of the Marvin Gay State having 157 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:05.759 beef with Ed Sheeran over some sampling issues, and I mean sampling stuff in 158 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:09.600 clearance happens all all the time. And music, Yeah, every single track 159 00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:13.279 basically that I like these days is sampled from something else. So yeah, 160 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:18.960 I for something like this. I can This makes so much sense because you 161 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:26.279 know, Nintendo, especially Nintendo of America, is very, very litigation savvy, 162 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:31.440 and they are going to position themselves in a defensive way where it is 163 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:35.120 We're not going to just be like, oh, well, how can we 164 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:39.840 continue using this track? They would much rather be let's play it safe, 165 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:43.200 pull this down and wash your hands of it. That's the much better option 166 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:48.679 here. Now. I think the trailer should be preserved because it's a part 167 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:52.919 of the history of like how the system released and is important, and I 168 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:58.600 suppose having it still up on stuff like GameSpot like that's that's great. I'm 169 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:01.879 glad it's still there. But I think Nintendo, a company that is about 170 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:09.960 to launch its own museum, should be a little bit more forthright about like 171 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:13.000 preserving this stuff and explaining to people, hey, yeah, we're taking it 172 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:16.720 down because these legal reasons. We will find a way to maintain it in 173 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:20.320 some other way, or it will be like the original assets where that we 174 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:22.960 created this with will be preserved and we will actually have that in the museum, 175 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:26.799 and then we'll have some digital version of the museum where people can watch 176 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:30.679 this or something like that that would be ideal. I think Nintendo, even 177 00:12:30.679 --> 00:12:33.879 with them opening this museum, are so far away from that form of thinking. 178 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:35.360 And they're not alone in that a lot of companies are that way. 179 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:39.039 But I don't know. Are you hopeful that that's changing as these companies kind 180 00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:43.440 of look back at their legacy and see that that's more important. Yeah, 181 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:46.360 I would like to. I would like to imagine that a lot of companies, 182 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:52.320 at least some people near the top, embrace the history or like the 183 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:58.840 legacy that the current companies are built upon. I mean we see sometimes we 184 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:03.919 see that with production companies when it comes to movies, especially if Nintendo is 185 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:09.399 intending on building like a proper museum. Stuff like print campaigns are so fun 186 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:11.960 to look at, Like, yeah, I love looking through old video game 187 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:16.559 magazines and just seeing how like marketing was trying to reflect what was hot at 188 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:24.360 the time and just like taking potshots at each other, especially with launch trailers 189 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:28.120 for consoles, because it's like wow, like remember the early promises of this, 190 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:30.679 or like how we thought this was going to be dumb, but it 191 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:33.399 turns out like we all were on rooftops partying with each other, whether I 192 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:39.320 switch, Yeah, it's I think it's valuable to understand how these companies try 193 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:43.559 to sell us something versus how they try to make us feel happy with something 194 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:46.159 like, hey, you are going to use all of these features and all 195 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:50.080 this stuff's gonna matter. And that's that forced ops a lescence thing where it's 196 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:54.279 like the system I have now can't play on rooftops. I gotta do something 197 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:56.200 about that. I gotta get that, and then you get it and you're 198 00:13:56.240 --> 00:13:58.200 like, actually, I'm just happy about this thing because it has fucking Mario 199 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:05.399 and Zelda and having that perspective is helpful. But also four stops of lessons 200 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:09.360 and those early marketing promises will always work in these companies will keep doing it, 201 00:14:09.399 --> 00:14:13.279 so it's not working, we're like learn our lesson or something like that, 202 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:16.519 but still being able to look back and have that evidence of being able 203 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:20.919 to tell these stories of how these companies try to get us to feel anxious 204 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:26.720 about jumping ahead to the next device. I think I want to keep exploring 205 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:28.639 that and looking back at the history of that stuff and having those resources readily 206 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:33.919 available is going to be important. But yeah, oh, I'm sorry. 207 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:35.879 Yeah, that Nintendo America Museum that we went to a part of PAX. 208 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:39.120 That was great because of all this stuff. We're oh, yeah, look 209 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:41.559 at these things. Just look at these the original art right next to it. 210 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:45.799 I'm really glad that stuff is preserved. Yeah. I was going to 211 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:50.759 say, you know, for a lot of games media stuff just surrounding the 212 00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:52.679 industry, a lot of it was on tape, and if it weren't for 213 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:56.360 people like Danny O'Dwyer archiving a lot of that, some of that may just 214 00:14:56.360 --> 00:15:01.559 get lost at time. Fortunately, absolutely, go check out his game tape 215 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:03.840 preservation stuff. He's doing a lot of good stuff. Ten EIGHTP versions of 216 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:09.799 Ridge Racer, which is very important. All right, let's move on here. 217 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:13.159 PS five slims release date and Spider Man two bundle have seemingly leaked. 218 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:18.519 This is from Tom Ivan at BGC. New details about the PlayStation five slim 219 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:24.039 release date and Sony's bundle plans have seemingly been uncovered. The company recently announced 220 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:26.600 that it will launch a smaller PS five model in November in the US before 221 00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:31.559 rolling it out to other regions in the following months. Like the launch model, 222 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:33.080 the new PS five will be available in the form of a standard edition 223 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:37.879 featuring a disk drive and a digital edition without one. According to highly reliable 224 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:43.080 data minor Bill bil Kuhn, Sony's planning to release a PS five Slim Standard 225 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:46.320 Edition console bundled with Marvel Spider Man two on November eighth in the US. 226 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:52.799 It will reportedly cost five hundred and sixty dollars, which is the same price 227 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:56.759 as the current PS five model bundled upcoming with the upcoming game, which will 228 00:15:56.799 --> 00:16:00.279 be released tomorrow. Somewhat confusingly, Bill bill could report also lists the PS 229 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:04.879 five Slim Standard and digital release date as November tenth in the United States. 230 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:11.120 It could be that they've uncovered conflicting information about the console's launch date, or 231 00:16:11.159 --> 00:16:14.879 perhaps that Sonya tends to release the Spider Man two bundle a couple of days 232 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:18.159 before PS five Slim is made available stand alone, and jan I could easily 233 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:22.240 see that, right, Yeah, oh hole, hardly. It's weird that. 234 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:26.440 I mean, I understand production takes time, but why didn't you want 235 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:30.600 to ramp this up in time for the launch? Yeah, I mean that's 236 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:33.759 why I was kind of as we got through September and we hadn't heard about 237 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:37.039 this, and like Spider Man was just like basically in our hands at that 238 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:40.399 point. It's like, well, that's weird. If they're not going to 239 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:42.200 get up before Spider Man two must not be happening. And it's like, 240 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:45.240 well, okay, maybe they must have just had some production issues or something 241 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:48.759 like that, or any number of things could have gone wrong, or they 242 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:52.879 have whatever strategic reason for doing this. Maybe it is to clear out the 243 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:57.320 stock of the original PS fives that they are phasing out. Maybe that they're 244 00:16:57.360 --> 00:17:00.480 doing that with alongside Spider Man, and they decided that was more important. 245 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:04.680 Whatever it is, I get why. It's like, well, listen, 246 00:17:04.680 --> 00:17:07.559 we're gonna sell a lot of Spider Man two, and we are going to 247 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:11.880 clear a lot of PS five as that game launches. But even as we 248 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:14.960 get a few weeks away from the launch, Spider Man two is still going 249 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:18.039 to be the thing that people are buying PS fives for, and it's the 250 00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:22.440 thing that people are gonna buy with PS fives. So let's make sure that 251 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:25.400 when we are trying to get this slim out the door and get it a 252 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:29.599 strong start, let's give it just a two day head start with Spider Man 253 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:33.200 again, very easily could be conflicting information. I think Tom is right to 254 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:38.160 point that out, but I could believe that Sony's like, you know, 255 00:17:38.359 --> 00:17:41.079 if you want it now, you have to buy it with Spider Man two. 256 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:45.480 And I could see them pulling the trigger on that. Yeah, now 257 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:48.680 that you frame it that way, one hundred percent, I see that logic 258 00:17:48.720 --> 00:17:53.599 of thinking. And also it's obscene to think, Jeff Grubb, that we're 259 00:17:53.640 --> 00:17:59.039 more than halfway through October already. It's obscene. So you know, the 260 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:03.440 holidays are slowly approaching. I know that these probably these definitely will not go 261 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:07.599 on sale during a Black Friday. But you know, sometimes apolloism will pop 262 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:11.000 off and once you're there you see it in front of you, it's like, 263 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:12.599 all right, I'll finally I'll follow. Yeah, I think that's that's 264 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:15.720 you know, you you have these things out time for Black Friday, not 265 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:19.039 to necessarily lower the price, but to do exactly what you said. You 266 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:22.599 get up, you got a six am, you went to Best Buy to 267 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:29.440 go get the new album from Taylor Swift, and then while you're there it's 268 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:34.359 it's right yeah, and then yeah, you see the PS five and you 269 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:37.799 pick it up. Now that's who knows if they're going to be available in 270 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:41.359 stores, what production levels are like. They seem to have fixed a lot 271 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:45.079 of that, but you know, anytime you're watching a new variation, you 272 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:47.880 kind of reset the clock on that a little bit. But we'll see. 273 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:49.599 At the very least, I think people will be like, I want this 274 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:53.359 as fast as possible, and if I already have Spider Man two whatever, 275 00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:56.720 I'll get it again and I'll just give away the code or whatever it is, 276 00:18:56.839 --> 00:18:59.640 or the fiscal version of the game, if that's what they're bundling it 277 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:03.559 with to a friend, or I'll sell it or whatever. So yeah, 278 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:10.319 we'll see. I am still like, mostly on the fence, but mostly 279 00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:14.279 on the not gonna get it side for the PS five slim. I just 280 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:18.119 keep thinking how I never really consider the PS five and where it's at because 281 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:23.599 it fits nicely into my entertainment center over there, But it would be I 282 00:19:23.640 --> 00:19:30.039 wouldn't hate having another PS five upstairs every once in a while, that one 283 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:32.839 that could work. This is what happens, This is how I get in 284 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:36.960 trouble with these things, and now buying another system. I don't know, 285 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:41.559 how about you, any chance I was thinking about it as well. I 286 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:45.519 was thinking about it as well because like I may be in a situation soon 287 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:48.519 where I'll be in two locations. A need a PS five here and a 288 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:52.720 PS five exactly. Yeah, see, you get it. You get it, 289 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:55.119 and everyone to chat yelling atas doesn't get it, but you get it. 290 00:19:55.680 --> 00:20:00.559 The problem is though PS five slim regular base, PS five ugliest sin 291 00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:04.559 Yeah, I don't disagree. I like how ugly it is, but I 292 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:10.839 don't disagree it. Just like I wish you were a nicely like small box. 293 00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:14.319 I could. I could play somewhere right now. My PS five is 294 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:18.599 hidden behind both of my monitors. Yeah, I like that move. I 295 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:22.160 approve of that move. I just never see it. Yeah, mine is, 296 00:20:22.279 --> 00:20:26.119 uh so, it's in the entertainment center below the TV. But when 297 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:29.720 I'm in the recliner, I kicked my feet up and then I can't see 298 00:20:29.720 --> 00:20:32.480 any of the console, so I never actually end up looking at it. 299 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:36.400 Let me, Do you think the PlayStation five is the ugliest PlayStation console? 300 00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:42.599 No? Oh, I think the PS three is the worst design console because 301 00:20:42.599 --> 00:20:48.519 of the the concave. Is that the right word? The convex would be 302 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:52.440 fun? But there the George Foreman grows the one you're talking about, right, 303 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:56.200 Yes, the one, the George Forman, the one looks like George 304 00:20:56.240 --> 00:20:57.599 forman grew I did. I never liked that either. I did. I 305 00:20:57.640 --> 00:21:02.759 thought it was kind of tacky. Look, yeah, but uh he has 306 00:21:02.839 --> 00:21:07.680 one gorgeous PS two gorgeous definitely mini PS two. Wow. Yes, holy 307 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:11.960 that thing is perfect. Yes, I agree, I think. Yeah. 308 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:15.440 For me, I disliked the PS three more than the PS five. The 309 00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:18.160 PS four was just boring. Sure, yeah, yeah, got its job 310 00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:21.400 done. I like the PS five pro where it's like, let's just add 311 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:25.599 another another stack on another tier on this thing, so instead of having like 312 00:21:25.640 --> 00:21:27.759 one of those just one gap, it's got two gaps. And so oh 313 00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:30.079 oh man, this really is a pro model. I don't know why that 314 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:34.839 worked, but it got me going. I my PS five or PS four 315 00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:40.160 pro. Jan I probably probably showed this to you before, has wood paneling 316 00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:41.799 on it. I got one of those like things where you can like stick 317 00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:44.799 wood paneling on it, and I always look at I'm like, man, 318 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:48.799 that thing's cool looking. You remember I missed that time in tech where like, 319 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:52.880 hey, let's put wood paneling on every two. Man, I really 320 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:55.720 miss it. I wish I wish it was like a normal thing again. 321 00:21:55.799 --> 00:22:00.960 But that's so seventies and eighties at this point. That I've had a phone, 322 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:04.759 an iPhone three G with a wood panel case. Oh man, yeah, 323 00:22:04.759 --> 00:22:10.599 that's perfect. I love that. All right. Spider Man two update, 324 00:22:10.680 --> 00:22:14.640 we'll add new Game Plus and mission replay post launch. This is from 325 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:18.400 Tom Ivan at VGC. Insomniac Games has said Spider Man two will get a 326 00:22:18.440 --> 00:22:22.000 new Game Plus mode after its release. It's expected to be added to the 327 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:26.200 game, alongside a mission replay feature in a post launch update. According to 328 00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:30.319 James Stevenson, Insomniac's director of Community and Marketing, Hello, James, We're 329 00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:33.160 working on an update for those features, but they won't be in day one, 330 00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:36.680 he said in response to a question on Twitter, later adding should be 331 00:22:36.759 --> 00:22:41.359 before the end of this year, so that's pretty cool. I think the 332 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:45.400 new Game Plus is something where I never really engaged with it much, and 333 00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:48.839 now I'm like considering it more and more, mostly because of Armored Core six 334 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:52.079 the new game of Plus, and that has been so good. I never 335 00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:55.359 actually fully played their whole thing, but you feel so powerful by the end 336 00:22:55.759 --> 00:22:59.640 and going through it again, it's like I'm just ripping through everything, especially 337 00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:03.519 when like they before they nerve the shotguns, it was just I was just 338 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:07.319 melting everybody as I was going through there again. So yeah, and I 339 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:11.920 do jen I do have this urge to play through more Spider Man two, 340 00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:14.640 and I was like, oh, maybe I should just do it New Game 341 00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:18.279 Plus. Now I'm at a point where I'd probably still would the game and 342 00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:21.839 that might actually end up satisfying me. But uh, I'm mostly but I'm 343 00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:23.319 also like, man, I just I like some of that story stuff. 344 00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:26.519 I like those characters enough that I would want to go through some of that 345 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:33.359 again, but I would dislike giving up all of my upgrades, so I 346 00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:36.960 would probably actually just want to do New Game Plus. So I'm hopeful this 347 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:38.799 comes out soon. And maybe it's the kind of thing where in December, 348 00:23:38.799 --> 00:23:41.599 when things slow down, I could be doing that instead. I don't know. 349 00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:47.519 Yeah, you kick back with your PlayStation portal. Yeah it is. 350 00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:51.240 Yes, you get it, you know, all over again during the holidays. 351 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:56.640 Yeah, that does sound good. Many in that. I don't care 352 00:23:56.680 --> 00:24:00.759 how many times cheat. Yeh. Let me about that one. I was. 353 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:04.720 It was really hard to rip myself away from it. Yesterday I completed 354 00:24:04.759 --> 00:24:12.240 some of those side story side quests flame yep, yep, yep, yep, 355 00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:15.519 yep. I recommend that one. That's what we'll say, we'll just 356 00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:18.880 recompen. I recommend doing that side story. Uh, that one's it's gonna 357 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:22.119 go places I think people are gonna enjoy, So yes, I recommend it. 358 00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:27.839 And and folks just actually all of the side quests, like, just 359 00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:32.680 pick one and just see it through as as soon as you can. But 360 00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:34.680 also don't rush through the game. Yeah I wish I didn't. It wasn't 361 00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:37.960 in a position where I had to feel like I had to rush through the 362 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:41.799 game. M man, yep, what a great game. Yeah, that's 363 00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:45.759 it's I think, Uh, just take your time with that side quest stuff. 364 00:24:45.920 --> 00:24:49.640 I agree with. I agree with you and your right to pick one 365 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:53.519 and just see it through. And that's the game makes that really manageable, 366 00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:57.400 really easy to do that. It doesn't feel like, Okay, I gotta 367 00:24:57.440 --> 00:25:02.240 go do seventeen of these same exact things. It's nothing like that. It's 368 00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:04.240 actually the furthest away from that one of these open world games has been. 369 00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:10.039 I think. So yeah, just super due approve of all the stuff they 370 00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:11.880 did with that kind of content. You know, honestly, grub, I 371 00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:18.880 wouldn't mind if this game was just like really bespoke side quests. Yeah, 372 00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:23.640 I mean I think that's why Miles Morales hit differently than Spider Man won agree, 373 00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:29.319 No, yeah, and I think that they improved it here and I 374 00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:33.319 hope that I don't need like big stories DLC. But if they put in 375 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:37.279 like okay, and here's like four more of these side quest strings, yeah 376 00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:41.440 that we cut yeah during production exactly, you know, or you know, 377 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:47.440 as they get the game has like the Avengers Tower and stuff. That's something 378 00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:49.000 that was in the first game. It's like, oh, what if you 379 00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:52.799 could go in there and do something again. I don't need the characters to 380 00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:56.920 be in there or whatever. That might be difficult, but like suggestion of 381 00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:00.960 the characters is always fun, and I don't know, doing more stuff with 382 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:04.680 that could be cool, but whatever, I'm satisfied and happy with that game 383 00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:10.480 as it is, so just really recommend people dive in and enjoy it at 384 00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:14.519 your own pace. For sure, I feel really greedy wanting more. Yes, 385 00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:17.640 I know, exactly. Yeah, that's the thing with these games, 386 00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:21.839 you know. They spend five years, six years of their lives, and 387 00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:26.240 I play it through in like two weekends. But it's like at the same 388 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:29.440 time, it's like this feels massive, it feels big. It feels robust, 389 00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:30.559 and yet I could ask for more and they're like, yeah, that 390 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:33.519 would have been another three years in my life. Okay, all right, 391 00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:34.799 I get it. I'm sorry. You're right, like, I'm sorry for 392 00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:37.279 asking. I'll go back. Yeah, cool, I'll shut up. All 393 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:40.759 right, We're gonna take a quick break, everybody. When we get back, 394 00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:52.759 we're gonna talk about a lot more news after this we're back. Did 395 00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.559 you wait? Huh, Well not anymore. We're gonna talk about Xbox could 396 00:26:56.640 --> 00:27:00.720 become irrelevant if it doesn't thrive in mobile, He'll Spender says. This is 397 00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:04.559 from Eddie McCoo at GameSpot. Microsoft has always said it's deal to buy Activision 398 00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:08.519 Blizzard King was mostly about getting a foothold in the mobile gaming space, and 399 00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:14.200 now Phil Spencer has discussed this further appearing on the Xbox Podcast recently and we 400 00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:18.160 had a couple stories from this yesterday everybody. Spencer said Microsoft runs the risk 401 00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:21.880 of becoming irrelevant if it doesn't find a way to have success in the mobile 402 00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:25.880 game market, which is bigger than console on PC. I am really looking 403 00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:29.079 forward to learning on mobile. The truth of the matter is, if you're 404 00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:30.960 going to continue to be relevant and gaming at a global scale, You're going 405 00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:33.839 to have to find a way to be relevant on the largest platform, which 406 00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:37.559 is mobile. Now that Microsoft owns Activision, Blizzard, and King, the 407 00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:41.599 company takes ownership of the Juggernaut, Candy Crush series, Diablo Immortal, Call 408 00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:45.880 of Duty Mobile, and every other mobile game from ABK. This is independent 409 00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:51.599 of whatever internal plans Microsoft might have had already for the mobile gaming space, 410 00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:56.799 including potentially its own mobile games mobile game store. You know. He goes 411 00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:59.480 on to talk about, hey, gaming's growing to like three billion people and 412 00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:02.759 all this stuff, and they were never never really going to be able to 413 00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:06.839 reach that with just an Xbox console, Like that was the ship had sailed 414 00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:10.880 on the console sort of reaching that level of success after phones and tablets came 415 00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:12.759 into that space and most people are like, now this is where I'm gonna 416 00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:15.599 play games, and it is most people compared to, you know, in 417 00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:22.160 just terms of sheer numbers to console players. Microsoft has said in its documentation 418 00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:26.839 that was like submitted to the court, and they might have said publicly, 419 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:30.359 but the rumor has been they're going to have their own mobile gaming store, 420 00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:33.680 and it's something that could launch next year, and that would be like, 421 00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:37.640 hey, you can go here to get candy, Corsaga, Call Duty Mobile, 422 00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:41.759 and maybe some other stuff, and maybe stuff will be cheaper, or 423 00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:47.039 maybe it actually won't be in the Apple App Store or Google Play anymore. 424 00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:51.400 You need to install this separate store. And the new laws and regulation that's 425 00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:55.079 coming in place from Europe and other places might enable that to be easier to 426 00:28:55.119 --> 00:28:59.720 accomplish. In fact, you might even be able to find the Microsoft Store 427 00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:04.400 in the App Store. Now we'll see how that plays out and whether or 428 00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:10.680 not Microsoft's able to make that happen. But I'll say that Epic did try 429 00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:14.759 this with Fortnite, which is a massively successful game. They tried it on 430 00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:19.720 Android, where it is relatively easy to sideload app stores. You've been able 431 00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:22.880 to do it from for more than a decade now with the Amazon App Store 432 00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:26.480 and Amazon App Store. Back then was like give went away free apps all 433 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.000 the time, and this is back when most apps were paid so but that 434 00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.480 never got anywhere, not on proper Android. They'd have to stay to sell 435 00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:37.359 their own hardware to turn the Amazon app Amazon App Store into a real thing. 436 00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:41.680 I think if Amazon and Epic couldn't do it, I don't think Microsoft 437 00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:45.279 can just do it because they're Microsoft, then they have even they have Candy 438 00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.880 Cross Saga, as big as that is. I don't think you can get 439 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.039 people to change their behavior from using the default thing installed on a smartphone. 440 00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:56.000 That like, the reason you buy a smartphone is it just works and you 441 00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:59.480 just use the stuff that's right in front of you. I don't know my 442 00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:03.759 wrong, Jam, you are not wrong at all. The idea of trying 443 00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:11.759 to create a separate storefront to exist on an iPhone specifically seems insane. Yeah, 444 00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.119 it seems like a full hearty is a fool's errand in this instance, 445 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:21.920 to try and condition whole groups of people like all right, well I used 446 00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:23.880 to just go here to play candy Crush. Now you're telling me I have 447 00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:27.559 to go open this app to download that so I can update or download this. 448 00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:32.319 Those people are going to leave. Those people are going to leave and 449 00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:37.960 find something even more simpler to use if Epic can't win the separate storefront. 450 00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:44.400 On PC's where folks are a little bit more Yeah, it's more open. 451 00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:48.039 Folks are a little bit more tech savvy, but they just enjoy the convenience 452 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:55.759 of Steam. That same behavior pattern is more evident on mobile more ingrained. 453 00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:03.759 Just it's like the momentum there is so so much stronger, and and you 454 00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:08.680 know Candy Cross Saga, you get that, and it is an institution un 455 00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:12.759 mobile. It has been the top grossing game or close to it, in 456 00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:18.480 the top three every year for the last eleven years. And it's like, 457 00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:25.079 just because all those things are true, doesn't mean that you have this captive 458 00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:26.599 audience that you can do whatever you want with. You still have to deal 459 00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:32.279 with human behaviors of we're mostly lazy. We mostly just want to do things 460 00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:33.799 the way we have done them, and if you change them up on us, 461 00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:37.400 we're probably gonna just gonna be like, oh, where Candy Crush go? 462 00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.000 And you're gonna go in the store and search for Candy Crush and you're 463 00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:44.359 gonna get a clone instead, because that's easier than then figure out whatever Microsoft's 464 00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:45.799 doing. No, you want me to create an Xbox Live account on my 465 00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:51.759 iPhone? No, I'm good. Yeah. For some people have trouble even 466 00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:56.680 creating like the specific store to phone ID that they need. Yeah, and 467 00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:02.200 you expect them to create another log for another account and then they're just have 468 00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:07.799 them accept terms and agreements here, perhaps try and lure them into signing it 469 00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:10.200 for a membership. People are just gonna swipe away. Unless you have like 470 00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:15.200 AI yearbook photos or whatever, then people will be totally willing. That's yes, 471 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:19.000 of course, yeah, you have my money. I don't. I 472 00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:23.960 don't really believe Microsoft is going to make any Crush Saga or Call of Duty 473 00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:29.519 mobile exclusive to the to the Xbox Mobile store. But if it's not going 474 00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:30.759 to do that, but again I don't think they will. But if they're 475 00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:35.559 not going to do that, then what chance on earth does the store stand 476 00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:37.440 Because then if people don't have to use it, they won't even consider it 477 00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:42.640 as an option. They won't even ever think about it. So you know, 478 00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:45.599 you know, maybe I'm wrong, but I I just and maybe they 479 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:49.480 can. Maybe regulators get so aggressive they're like, no, you need to 480 00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:52.200 include another app store on your thing at launch. I don't think we'll ever 481 00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:54.759 get to that point, but maybe Microsoft thinks they're going to get to that 482 00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:59.599 point and are hoping to ride that those cottails. But it's like Microsoft should 483 00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:01.759 be careful because then they would have to stop. They would probably have to 484 00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:07.240 stop or include some other options into Windows, something they probably don't want to 485 00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:10.880 do. So this is a tricky situation that I hate, good luck, 486 00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:15.200 but I would not be imagining spending ten billion dollars trying to turn this into 487 00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:19.880 a thing. No, no, and like you know, the thing you 488 00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:23.400 could just fail. Just look at what Epic is done. Just look at 489 00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:27.000 them, you know, look at them over there. Yep, you could 490 00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:31.480 all you could try and offer them free games, free incentives to download whatever 491 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:37.640 sideloaded Microsoft's store there is on mobile, whether it's on Android or Apple. 492 00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:44.599 But even then that isn't enough to incentivize everyone to flip over and convert. 493 00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:50.240 Like we've seen Epic give free games out week to week, but that is 494 00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:55.960 not enough to build momentum for people to also download and enjoy and solely use 495 00:33:57.079 --> 00:34:01.160 the Epic Game Store. It's not enough. Yeah, we've seen other services 496 00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:06.880 kind of do similar things where people already are Like Twitch had that the Twitch 497 00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:08.119 PC app. I don't know if they still have that. But one of 498 00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:10.400 the things that you could get doing there is you get games that were like 499 00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:13.960 Amazon was providing and like some of them were free, a lot of them 500 00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:16.400 were free, and no one fucking used that thing. And I mean some 501 00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:20.480 people did, but no one like used it to then go buy games or 502 00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:22.800 something like that, and like Discord. I think Discord had something like kind 503 00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:27.880 of equivalent to game Pass for a little bit. And it's some of these 504 00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:30.599 games are pretty good and interesting that this is a relatively cheap services, like 505 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:31.719 five bucks a month, and people are like, no, I don't come 506 00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:35.719 Discord Discord to use that. I already have my games over here. I'm 507 00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:38.599 just gonna keep doing that. It's even if people are already in these places, 508 00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:42.760 it's hard to get them to change their behavior. A Microsoft Game store 509 00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:46.760 separate from from anything else that I suppose maybe they could include it as a 510 00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:51.320 required app to install to get something like a Call of Duty mobile to work. 511 00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:52.760 So oh yeah, call Duty Mobile. You need to sign an Xbox 512 00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:55.239 Live and that's going to have an app installed, and oh guess if there's 513 00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:58.880 a store in there. I don't think any of that matters. It doesn't 514 00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:04.159 really have the the stickiness to get people to change their behavior. Yeah, 515 00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:08.159 it's just it's just so hard to try and change that behavior. Grub, 516 00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:13.599 unless they were trying to do you think they'd attempt to make a phone again, 517 00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:20.039 I don't know. I mean they had the surface duo, right, 518 00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:22.159 I don't but that was a couple of years ago, and I don't know 519 00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:23.800 if they've had an update on any of those I'm trying. I mean, 520 00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:29.320 I I was interested in one of those phones a little bit from a distance. 521 00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:31.119 But I'm at a point where I'm like the Pixel software, I can't. 522 00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:34.960 I can't get a phone now jan that doesn't answer spam calls for me 523 00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:37.280 and doesn't even like ring my phone anymore. It's just like, no, 524 00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:38.519 I'm a robot. I'm handling this. Don't worry about it. I'll tell 525 00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:42.760 you if it's important. And I know only the only phone that really does 526 00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:45.000 that fully in the way I needed to is the Pixel. So I'm lost 527 00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:50.960 shooting log It doesn't shoot in logs. So you gotta you're locked in over 528 00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:52.599 there. Listen, if you're gonna shoot video with your phone, you stick 529 00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:55.079 with iPhone, all right, you don't come over here. I promise you 530 00:35:55.079 --> 00:36:00.480 you're happier over there. But for my purposes in terms of just fucking answer 531 00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:04.320 my phone for me, robot, that's that's the Pixel. So I'm like, 532 00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:07.800 I was like, ah, Microsoft making a phone, it's Android, 533 00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:12.880 it's a duo. I suppose they probably do ramp that back up if that's 534 00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:15.920 what they're really trying to do here with the store, huh, because you 535 00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:20.599 and I you know they could sell do they sell Android tablets? I don't. 536 00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:24.320 I don't know. I guess android apps work on Windows now, I 537 00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:27.760 don't know. I just don't. I don't. I'm like trying to put 538 00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.760 the pieces together, jan to see how this can make sense, and nothing. 539 00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:35.079 Everything sort of hits like an obvious wall and obvious obstruction where it's like 540 00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:37.320 Nope, that blows it up, that blows it up, that blows it 541 00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.760 up. I don't know. It just it feels like, Yo, Phil, 542 00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:45.519 you acquired Activision Blizzard, not just for Activision and Blizzard, but for 543 00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:52.280 the King part of that deal, where you're you no longer you're you're no 544 00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:58.280 longer searching for a space in the mobile gaming market. You are just a 545 00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:02.199 big giant in the gaming market now with King. Yeah, and then all 546 00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:06.400 the other stuff that comes with the Activision and Blizzard in the mobile market as 547 00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:10.239 well is just icing on the cake at that point. Yeah, So maybe 548 00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:14.559 don't mess with something that ain't broke. Yeah. I'm like, okay, 549 00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:17.960 again, I'm trying to like find the way that this could work. Maybe 550 00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:22.960 the solution for them is shooting log. Shooting log, right, that's gotta 551 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:29.800 be I'll stop. Maybe they're like, well, instead of going through regulators, 552 00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:35.679 they go to Google and Apple and say, hey, how about let's 553 00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:37.440 let's have a deal. And it could be a sweetheart deal for you, 554 00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:44.199 but you do include the Microsoft Game Store on your devices, and that helps 555 00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:49.760 you deal with your regulator problem because now you've given people an alternative and now 556 00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:52.599 they have options and you don't take and you know you could still you could 557 00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:55.360 have some cut, but it's not as much of a cut, but you 558 00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:58.840 don't have control over it. We do. So now you can point to 559 00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:01.960 regulators to be like, we are offering choices and it's Microsoft and it's established, 560 00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:05.519 and they have this promise to support this for ten years or whatever. 561 00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:09.639 Maybe that's what they think can happen here. I think Microsoft has an optimism 562 00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:14.599 about being able to make these deals that would make them try to attempt something 563 00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:17.119 like that. I don't know if it'll work, but I guess we'll see. 564 00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:22.159 I guess we'll see. All right, let's see here Sony files patent 565 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:27.960 application for PS five controller that stores and charges earbuds. This is from Cameron 566 00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:31.719 Co. At GameSpot. Sony's dual Sense controller for the PlayStation five already features 567 00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:37.000 a touchpad, adaptive triggers, a gyroscope, and a built in speaker and 568 00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:40.920 microphone. If a recently filed Sony patent application is any indication a new feature 569 00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:45.920 could soon be added to that list, The ability to store and charge earbuds 570 00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:51.199 within the dual Sense itself. First spotted by gamer ant the gamer Ant. 571 00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:55.039 The patent application was published on October twelfth and includes diagrams of what the next 572 00:38:55.039 --> 00:39:00.000 generation of Dual Sense controller may look like. The images show slots for housing 573 00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:04.239 earbuds on the back of the controller, behind the dual Sense touchpad, or 574 00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:07.039 on each side of the controller's handles. That being said, the documentation notes 575 00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:12.039 that the pair of slots is not restricted to be defined on the back side 576 00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:15.239 of the controller, but can also be defined on other surfaces of the controller, 577 00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:17.599 cleaning the front side blah blah blah. So basically put the sluts where 578 00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:22.639 if they want. Jan This is a first blush. I think this is 579 00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:23.320 cool, and then I think about it for a second. I'm like, 580 00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:27.760 Oh, that would make that battery last for even fewer hours, and I 581 00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:30.000 don't want that at all. That would suck. That would be bad. 582 00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:34.840 Please don't do that. Yeah, I like this idea in theory. Yeah, 583 00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:38.760 me too. It seems it seems like a fun thing. And I 584 00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:44.599 was thinking this where because I've been having a hot swap my headphones between my 585 00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:47.760 PS five and my PC here and it's a little bit of a hassle with 586 00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:52.559 a Goggsler sure having the stupidest placement for a headphone jack, real dumb. 587 00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:57.000 The Mini has it out front, and I'm like, I should get that 588 00:39:57.039 --> 00:39:59.400 Mini out instead, because I do have a Mini back there in that clouse 589 00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:02.320 that I've never used. So much smarter. Yeah, but oh well, 590 00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:08.440 but yeah, it seems like a very novel thing and something I'd be very 591 00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:14.039 curious to check out. But then I worry about like weight distribution of the 592 00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:17.519 U of the dual sense, and then like do we have to factor in 593 00:40:17.840 --> 00:40:23.639 rumble at all? Messing up the charging plates in the controller is something that 594 00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:28.280 they've thought about. It's Tony's engineers are good enough that they probably have a 595 00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:30.079 solution for that, right, But you're right, that could like cause the 596 00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:34.360 context to you know, jostle loose or something like that, so they'd have 597 00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:37.719 to really consider it. You have to probably have extra padding in there that 598 00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:43.400 keeps that thing lodged in place. And I know that wireless is the way 599 00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:45.400 to go with these earbuds, but I think it'd be fun and stupid if 600 00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:51.199 they were just wired. Yes, yeah, I uh, I'd be like 601 00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.119 that, just like Dan, like when the controller the door breaks and they 602 00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:57.960 just have to dangle out all the time or whatever when you're not using them. 603 00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:00.320 I would like that a lot. That'd be fun. Uh. All 604 00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:04.159 right, we'll see if this happened. This would be a kind of a 605 00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:07.519 weird thing if they actually did this, but I would be all in favor. 606 00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:12.400 I like gimmicks in my controllers, so give me more gimmicks. Koki 607 00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:15.239 turned that down a little bit, just the volume, thanks dude. All 608 00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:19.360 Right, she's home and she's immediately going to Sonic. I think everybody here 609 00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:22.239 it is Jana beat it. Someone has to beat it. Yes, hey, 610 00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:25.639 beating Sonic for me? All right? Aya. Neo's new handheld looks 611 00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:30.079 like a twenty twenty three Nintendo DS successor. Jen You did it. You 612 00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:31.599 did it, baby, I did it. This is from Ali Reynolds, 613 00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:36.719 Nintendo Life Tech Company. I in EO is pumping out more hardware iterations than 614 00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:38.800 we could possibly keep up with. But it's the latest efforts, yet it's 615 00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:43.719 a lot of them. Is a particular interest thanks to the remarkable, remarkable 616 00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:50.320 resemblance to Nintendo's own DS line. The Aya Neo DS is on its way. 617 00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.239 Think I don't think you could call it. I wonder if they're actually 618 00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:55.800 going to end up being able to call it that. It boasts a seven 619 00:41:55.800 --> 00:42:00.760 inch one hundred twenty hertz display screen with an additional screen housed in the classic 620 00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:07.480 clamshell design popular popularized by the Nintendo DS. A second iteration has also been 621 00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:12.440 announced, called the Ia Neo Flip KB, only this one sports a rather 622 00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:17.039 finicky keyboard in place of the second screen. And I here's the ones I 623 00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:20.760 want. I wanted to dual screen one, and I want one with a 624 00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:22.760 keyboard, but not with like a flip. I want it to be a 625 00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:23.840 kick out, like a sidekick. I want to bring my but I want 626 00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:28.159 to look get back to that T mobile sidekick? Life so bad? Oh, 627 00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:31.159 yes, it was a better time. We were all happier. I 628 00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:35.119 was happier. Let's go back to that when I have it instead of these 629 00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:39.559 touchscreen phones give me, my my sidekickphone. I'm gonna get this, Jan, 630 00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:44.519 I'm gonna get it. I want it real bad. I listen, 631 00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:49.920 I got I have my DS, I have my DS lights. I have 632 00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:54.440 a three D, a new three DS, and a new three DS in 633 00:42:54.440 --> 00:43:00.119 the Broth Excels and many of those things are hacked to hell, and and 634 00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:01.920 I have all my games installed on there, and they're good to go. 635 00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:07.719 I don't need this. I can play whatever I gamma want on real hardware. 636 00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:10.880 Yeah, Jan, I'm gonna buy it. I know this because you 637 00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:16.079 have a problem. Yes, but I feel like I'm also gonna purchase this 638 00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:21.559 because I love the Nintendo DS. I'm gonna say maybe Nintendo's best handheld. 639 00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:24.440 Also for the fact that you could play game Boy Advance games. But you 640 00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:28.360 know, if you live in a modern age, virtually any and everything I 641 00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:31.920 play game Boy Advance Games. True, but I yeah, let's do this. 642 00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:37.119 I love how all of these little handhelds are just getting churned out constantly. 643 00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:43.119 Yes, like you know, people, I think sometimes usually there's a 644 00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:46.119 pejorative I never do these Chinese handhelds where I'm like, no. I love 645 00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:52.440 that there are just like fifty little manufacturers in China experimenting with all these different 646 00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.320 ideas that rules. It's like they all are like what if a radio shack 647 00:43:55.400 --> 00:44:00.840 turned into a manufacturing plant and give me all. I can't wait to see 648 00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:06.039 what they're going to do next. Now, we have had clamshell designed handhelds 649 00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:09.480 in the recent past from these from these China Chinese handal manufacturers, and the 650 00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:15.480 clamshell hinge has been pretty bad, which is always some a risk you run 651 00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:19.159 with clamshell designs from a company that's not like, hey, we have to 652 00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:22.760 run customer support on this for like seven eight years. We don't want that 653 00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:30.480 ship breaking for everybody. So I will get this, but I'm like, 654 00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:32.599 I know I'm rolling the dice in terms of the quality of that hinge. 655 00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:37.840 Jan like that is worried about it. Yeah, yeah, that is. 656 00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:44.440 That is the thing to buyer beware in this instance right where definitely you have 657 00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:49.400 an option to get a very bespoke, very well made handheld device like an 658 00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:52.719 analog pocket and I'm begging them to just make a DS or a game Boy 659 00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:59.360 sp one for sure. But when you introduce more moving parts like the clamshell 660 00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:01.400 aspect to that, there is going to be a lot more room for error, 661 00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:07.360 especially if these are being mass produced in a way that is we're quality 662 00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:14.360 control isn't at the forefront of production. Some of the stuff may break yep, 663 00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:16.719 very easily, so watch out, Like you said, buyer beware. 664 00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:22.440 I think that's right. Looking at these devices, they do do the thing 665 00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:27.039 where do do where the top screen is like it's a full sixteen by nine 666 00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:30.320 big screen with like very small bezzels if there's bestels at all. I'm trying 667 00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:32.800 to like look at this render and tell if they're trying to imply bezzels or 668 00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:36.920 not. And it looks like maybe they're on the side there's some bezzels whatever. 669 00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:42.519 It looks really slick. And then the bottom screen is the smaller almost 670 00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:45.880 it does look almost DS size or probably three DS size a screen there on 671 00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:52.719 the bottom. I think if you were setting up a DS emulator for this, 672 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:55.199 and you would probably have it like scaled, that bottom screen scaled to 673 00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:59.079 be like correct, and then the top screen, which would be like okay, 674 00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:00.440 and however big it needs to be compared to that and not taking that 675 00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:04.360 whole screen. I think that would work just fine. And I wonder I 676 00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:07.280 wonder if like the things should be powerful enough for three DS games too, 677 00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:12.400 So this could be This could be pretty cool. I mean having a system 678 00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:14.280 where it's like, oh, I got all my games on here, and 679 00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:16.679 this is like a really good way to play a link between worlds. Yeah, 680 00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:20.880 I could see myself. See, I'm like always talking myself into buying 681 00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:22.079 these things, That's what I'm doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I 682 00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:25.559 feel like you're trying to justify it to everyone launching grub Exactly. You're right, 683 00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:29.039 You're one hundred percent right on every aspect you brought up. Thank you, 684 00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:31.920 Jan, That's exactly what I expected to hear. You know, I 685 00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:37.039 never thought about this before, but I feel like a lot of those not 686 00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:44.400 even third party, but cheaper little handhelds right that you can get, and 687 00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:46.719 there's so many of them at this point that could you could probably find a 688 00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:52.320 decent quality one with that's like sub one hundred dollars. Give that to like 689 00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:57.280 a friend that is like kind of into games and just loaded up with hell 690 00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:00.599 of shit. Yeah, nice holiday gift. Absolutely, that was Ron Funches. 691 00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:05.880 He was asking for some help with some of these things, and then 692 00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:07.119 he kind of went off on his own. It was just like I started 693 00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:10.960 he started buying the Ambernik. I think, uh, the one, the 694 00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:14.599 one I hadn't really liked for a long time, and he started buying a 695 00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:16.360 bunch of those and loaded him up games and giving him to all his comedian 696 00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:21.280 friends like for gifts and stuff. I'm like, yeah, that is a 697 00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:25.119 really good idea. It's it's like thoughtful and it's something that people wouldn't necessarily 698 00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:29.000 know to go out and get themselves. And the amber Nicks actually tend to 699 00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:31.719 come with a lot of games, very illegally when they come with a lot 700 00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:37.320 of copyrighted games and installed on not all those devices actually do that. The 701 00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:40.719 retroid pockets never include games because they're trying to stay on the straight and narrow. 702 00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:45.239 But but yeah, you get one of those things loaded up handed to 703 00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:47.760 a handed to like, especially like if you had like a young kid in 704 00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:52.960 your family who's shown interest in that stuff, or he's just shown interesting games 705 00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:54.760 and or playing like a bunch of roadblocks, and it's like I'm not saying 706 00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:58.199 going like, hey, play the stuff I played as a kid, but 707 00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:00.920 give it to them to see what they come up. There's gonna be something 708 00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:04.599 on there they're gonna enjoy, maybe like an old Club Penguin DS game. 709 00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:07.480 I don't know, but they'll they'll enjoy it. Sell. Yeah, that's 710 00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:12.360 good idea for instance, like Jeff Baclar's cod Bro friends. Yes, I 711 00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:15.960 think they would enjoy that. Yes, exactly. She is making progress over 712 00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:21.760 here on this uh, this level, so we're doing good. Uh it 713 00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:24.360 might be sicking for the end of this episode. That's not gonna happen, 714 00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:30.119 all right. You can now play Tonyaks pros Skater one plus two offline, 715 00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:34.079 but there's a catch. It's from Zack Suisen at Kotaku. Good news, 716 00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:37.760 skater punks. The recent recently released Steam version of Tonyaks pro Skater one plus 717 00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:43.719 two is now playable offline, but in totally whack and weird news, the 718 00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:47.440 offline mode is only for Steam Deck users. First released in twenty twenty, 719 00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:52.079 Tonyaks Frost Skater one plus two is a very good remake blah blah blah. 720 00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:55.280 But people have discovered this recent patchion and able to be played offline only works 721 00:48:55.280 --> 00:49:00.239 for Steam Deck users. I h jen, I'm not. It's not often 722 00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:04.599 where I'm like, I feel the need to take a stance against this. 723 00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:07.519 It's like, I got okay, the company's doing it, and they're taking 724 00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:09.199 advantage of us. Whatever, what can I do about it? I feel 725 00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:15.079 helpless a lot of times. This one feels like on Steam habit a thing 726 00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:19.000 dedicated that only works on a Steam deck. No, don't do that. 727 00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:21.679 The Steam deck's a PC as well. If you're putting something that works on 728 00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:23.159 the Steam that gets your work on all PCs, and people are trying to 729 00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:27.000 like fake it to like to say, hey, this is a Steam deck 730 00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:30.280 even though you're playing on a PC or whatever, and they're having trouble getting 731 00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:32.519 that to work. That's stupid. Don't do this. If it's possible to 732 00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:37.920 play the thing offline, fucking let us play it offline? What do you 733 00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:40.559 do in here? This is stupid. Don't do this. I don't understand 734 00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:45.679 it. It doesn't make any sense. Do they think just because you can 735 00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:47.239 walk around with a Steam deck, it's like, oh no, that just 736 00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:50.639 so far, is it? Well? Guess what, you can also walk 737 00:49:50.679 --> 00:49:54.679 around with a lap baptop. Yeah, like there's zero difference. Really, 738 00:49:55.000 --> 00:50:00.320 It's yeah, it's baffling and it frustrates me, but it's fu an act 739 00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:02.679 division kind of thing to do, though. For sure, surprise, surprise, 740 00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:07.800 yep, I'm like I supposed I should be like, oh, well, 741 00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:08.800 I do have a steam deck and that's where I was gonna play ton 742 00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:14.679 expres scutter one plus two anyhow, so hooray. Uh, But I like, 743 00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:17.199 does it work on the like the Roger ally if I'm like playing it 744 00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:21.400 on there, it was zero fucking difference. But that's a window except for 745 00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:23.360 it's a Windows machine. Is it not gonna? I bet that doesn't work? 746 00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:27.519 Well? What is happening here? This is This is baffling, and 747 00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:30.840 they shouldn't do it this way. Why do they not want Tony Hawk to 748 00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:35.320 succeed? Yeah, they just they want to. They keep the shackles on 749 00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:39.119 that man. They want to keep. He flew too high and they they 750 00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:44.119 got jealous and they tie him down to earth. We'll never let him do 751 00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:46.760 a ten eighty. He wants to I said, you know, he said, 752 00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:50.239 so wants to try ten eighty. No, he's way too old for 753 00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:53.920 that. Please don't kill Tony Hawk. All right, I'm gonna skip down 754 00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:58.960 to Zen Studios reportedly cut staff by thirty two. This is from Jeffrey Rousseau 755 00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:02.719 at Games Industry Biz. Zen Studios, the creators behind Pinball FX, has 756 00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:07.320 reportedly laid off thirty two employees. The news was spotted by Adam Dinez, 757 00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:12.719 a community major at the studio, took to social media to announce that he 758 00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:15.960 was affected and looking for a new role. I think, I mean it 759 00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:20.119 was spotted when he said that according to Video game Layoffs, which tracks games 760 00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:22.480 industry job cuts, which is a depressing thing that we need. The site 761 00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:27.719 cited a direct source from Zen Studios about the job cuts and put the number 762 00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:31.880 of affected staffers at thirty two. Zen Studios was acquired by you guessed it, 763 00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:37.119 Frank Stallone, I know it, Embracer group and they have been cutting 764 00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:42.400 a bunch of jobs everywhere and refused to comment. It says here they don't. 765 00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:45.880 Actually they said an ongoing restructuring program, acknowledging that this will involve with 766 00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:49.119 the closing of studios and termination projects, which is what they've said previously. 767 00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:55.519 Actually this sucks. Zen Studios makes those good pinball games and they've been I 768 00:51:55.679 --> 00:52:00.760 just those games have got to be so predictable in how they right, they 769 00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:04.159 have their audience, and you just you make those games, put them out, 770 00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:07.960 and it's like the layoffs suggests like, oh, we couldn't have seen 771 00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:09.440 this coming. But it's like with a studio like that you should have been 772 00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:15.400 able to see everything coming and understand like what level of investment to make and 773 00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:19.559 be able to better plan this. This is when it feels so obviously due 774 00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:25.159 to mismanagement that it's especially frustrating to me. Jan Yeah, it's it's it's 775 00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:29.280 so it's so dumb, there's no better word for it, grub. But 776 00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:32.559 it's mismanagement where it's like, you can predict where the market is going and 777 00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:38.599 growing. If not growing, then it's the same couple folks wanting to download 778 00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:45.039 these digital pinball games Jeff Backlar just forty times. Yep. It's just such 779 00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:50.360 a bummer yep. For more and more folks to be losing their jobs. 780 00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:53.079 And like we said it earlier in this episode, but like mobile gaming specifically, 781 00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:59.400 what an audience of three billion people, Yet people are still being laid 782 00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:06.000 off in the industry left and right due to like or dumb idiot managers. 783 00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:09.440 Yep, exactly, And this is a real example of that. Of course, 784 00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:14.760 Embracer has seen layoffs at Crystal Dynamics, Beam Dog, Gearbox Publishing, 785 00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:20.719 a handful of others. They closed some studios. Just a mess, a 786 00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:25.280 complete mess, and you know you see some other publishers being able to sort 787 00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:29.599 of weather this, and even them are like laying people off here and there, 788 00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:30.880 like Microsoft. You like, I'll think of probably weather Well, they're 789 00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:34.800 laying people over at LinkedIn, and they're laying up laying They just laid off 790 00:53:34.880 --> 00:53:37.480 like what ten thousand people a couple of months ago, and then that did 791 00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:42.880 affect like three four three industries or whatever. But it's like, you know, 792 00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:45.840 I don't expect them to just keep laying off more and more, more 793 00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:49.639 and more and more people at their gaming studios. But Embracers in a position 794 00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:52.119 where you're like, I do not think we are anywhere near to being on 795 00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:55.119 the other side for them, and it seems like it's going to get a 796 00:53:55.159 --> 00:54:00.400 lot worse before it gets better. Question Mark, Like, can it get 797 00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:01.559 better? I don't, I don't know, I don't see how, I 798 00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:06.800 don't know what that looks like. So it's just really gruesome to think about 799 00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:09.960 Embracer group And we're probably gonna have more of these stories and we'll see, 800 00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:14.559 we'll see if we get on the other side or if they just dissolve and 801 00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:17.599 start selling off assets left and right or going to bankruptcy or something which seems 802 00:54:17.719 --> 00:54:24.239 like a distinct possibility. Its infinite growth is the stupidest fucking term to come 803 00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:28.679 out in the tech industry. Yep, the past. If you have a 804 00:54:28.679 --> 00:54:31.440 studio and that makes a successful game, that should be it. It should 805 00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:34.280 be that simple, like, Hey, you had a successful game, you 806 00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:37.480 paid for the cost to make that game, and then you made profits on 807 00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:40.480 top of that. But it's not the growth that you imagined in your head. 808 00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:45.360 And that's the problem. If we're fighting these demons in our head, 809 00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:51.199 what the fuck are we doing here? You think gold miners operated like this, 810 00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:54.320 I don't listen, gold gold miners were. They had it right. 811 00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:59.119 You just go out in the hills by yourself, but start digging and put 812 00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:00.480 in the water and no one comes and kills you in the middle of the 813 00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:02.639 night and steals all your goal. That was. That's the way to live 814 00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:07.519 right there. So you're saying that these people, the CEOs are still operating 815 00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:14.760 under this you even pre boomer mentality. Oh huh exactly? Almost twenty five 816 00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:15.559 Oh sorry, go ahead, and what's that? I was going to say 817 00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:20.840 something that may get misconstrued. Let's move on. Almost twenty five percent of 818 00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:24.000 all consoles and PC gamers played Minecraft last month in the US. This is 819 00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:29.039 from Evan Campbell at GameSpot. Over a decade old, Minecraft is still so 820 00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:31.320 hot right now. In fact, almost one in four PC and console gamers 821 00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:37.159 in the US reportedly played the sandbox game in September, showcasing the titles enduring 822 00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:43.400 popularity. Sirkana Expert director, executive director and expert director Matt Piscatela posted on 823 00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:46.519 Twitter that last month, twenty two percent of all US console and PC video 824 00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:52.679 game players played Minecraft at least once. Probably unsurprising, but no other games 825 00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:57.679 seem to come close to hitting that percentage, even including Robeblocks and Fortnite. 826 00:55:57.880 --> 00:56:00.079 This comes just days after it was revealed that Microsoft just sold over three hundred 827 00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:04.880 million copies at Minecraft Live twenty twenty three. I don't think they sold tree 828 00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:08.880 on a million copies at that event, probably just they revealed that. It's 829 00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:14.280 hard for me to wrap my head around that jan and that's because I am 830 00:56:14.599 --> 00:56:17.880 not in that orbit of people who are always playing Minecraft. But I mean, 831 00:56:19.320 --> 00:56:21.119 for a while there, I'm like, I definitely knew that was happening. 832 00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:22.719 You know, every YouTube video, every game in YouTube video was a 833 00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:27.039 person playing Minecraft. And even that feels like that's not the case anymore. 834 00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:29.920 But I don't think that's because fewer Minecraft videos are getting made. I think 835 00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:34.960 it's because more different kinds of videos are getting made as well. But yeah, 836 00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:37.400 I would be surprised, Like I'm the poll today is going to be 837 00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:38.159 about this, and I want to see, like, how close to that 838 00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:43.719 twenty two percent like our audience is. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a 839 00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:46.039 double digit percentage though. When we ask people have you played Minecraft in the 840 00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:51.400 last month even once, I'm gonna be interested to see what that response is. 841 00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:53.280 Uh. And it's like a game where I do always think about, 842 00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:55.559 like, yeah, I could play Minecraft at any moment, any moment, 843 00:56:55.599 --> 00:56:59.360 I could play Minecraft. I haven't for a while, but it is one 844 00:56:59.360 --> 00:57:01.280 of those ones that's like, yeah, if someone said, let's play Minecraft, 845 00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:04.159 no problem, let's boot it up, let's go, I'm ready. 846 00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:07.199 I would love that so I could. I could still kind of see this, 847 00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:10.679 but that number is shocking still, regardless of all that, how do 848 00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:15.360 you feel about it? I'm on the other side of this fence, Cheff 849 00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:17.440 Grub, I don't think it's shocking at all. Okay, Minecraft is like 850 00:57:19.280 --> 00:57:25.760 obscenely popular and it's just how do I say a wholesome game, because there 851 00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:30.000 are mods out there and I've seen stuff on that will make you turn into 852 00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:37.159 blocks. Yeah, and there's scenes where that are not so wholesome of Minecraft, 853 00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:40.880 but it is. It's just like a very easy game to just lose 854 00:57:40.920 --> 00:57:49.320 yourself in. It presents the a similar feeling of escapism that Spider Man two 855 00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:52.840 does. And yes, I am equating Minecraft to Spider Man two, where 856 00:57:54.239 --> 00:58:00.760 you could just lose hours just because you wind up figuring out and creating your 857 00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:05.840 own goal. This came up in the Giant Bomb discord yesterday, I believe, 858 00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:08.039 and I said, like, yo, like, I'm one hundred percent 859 00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:13.960 down to fire at Minecraft again with like this current iteration of the team, 860 00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:19.760 and I think we would have a different type of fun than when we were 861 00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:23.920 all playing Minecraft earlier in the pandemic, just because of the different variables. 862 00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:28.159 And you just don't know how people will wind up behaving, right, Like 863 00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:32.199 you would expect Dan to just constantly grief everyone and like get buckets of lava 864 00:58:32.280 --> 00:58:37.440 and figure out how to make T and T. But I don't know, 865 00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:40.599 maybe Dan will just wind up becoming like a glass blower, right, He's 866 00:58:40.679 --> 00:58:44.800 just like just he goes and we just every day we find him. He's 867 00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:46.199 like, I dug deeper. I dug deeper today. I just mind a 868 00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:49.280 bunch more stuff out of this hole. I'm just going to be down here. 869 00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:51.880 Don't worry about me. I could see that happening. I think you 870 00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:55.280 would probably find waste of grief us too. But there's there's a mod slash 871 00:58:55.360 --> 00:59:00.400 game mode for Minecraft. I don't know if you can do it through the 872 00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:07.400 Microsoft version called Skyblock, where you pretty much start with like a block of 873 00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:10.639 dirt and one tree, and then from there you're just supposed to just keep 874 00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:15.519 building and it's permadet, so if you die, then that person has just 875 00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:21.199 gone from the server. Okay, Skyblock is available on Microsoft Bedrock. It's 876 00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:24.559 really fun. I also Minecraft holds a special place in my heart because my 877 00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:30.440 little cousin and I I will necessarily into the videos or the creators you'd be 878 00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:32.400 watching, but it'd just be a way for us to like bond about, 879 00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:36.599 like okay, like we're watching a game being made, and then like we 880 00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:38.760 could go play this, you and I and then you know, occasionally spin 881 00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:44.480 out and try and do it ourselves. Yeah. I'm like, as my 882 00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:47.480 kids get a little bit older. I'm like, I might encourage Minecraft over 883 00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:52.480 Roadblocks if possible, because I feel like I can have more control over mine 884 00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:57.199 Minecraft and roadblocks is the wild West with them interacting with other real human human 885 00:59:57.239 --> 01:00:00.280 beings. It's like, no, hey, guess what, Dad's gonna set 886 01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:02.679 up a Minecraft server for you and your friends, and it's gonna be your 887 01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:06.360 guys just to play with. Do what you want in there. But I'll 888 01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:07.880 have the keys to the Kingdom and stuff like that, and I'll feel good 889 01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:13.000 about that. I know that trying to have that kind of control long term 890 01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:16.280 is a complete fool's errand for as a father, but I would like it 891 01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:21.519 for a little while at least, but you know, for when it comes 892 01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:23.000 to like me playing it joy And I'm like you mentioned some about like, 893 01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:25.480 oh, compared to the Spider Man. I looked it up. I googled 894 01:00:25.480 --> 01:00:30.800 it spider Man web swinging mod for Minecraft. And now I'm like, I 895 01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:34.320 might fucking install this tonight and get this going. This looks like so much 896 01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:38.599 fun. There's there was a mod for Minecraft. I forget the name of 897 01:00:38.639 --> 01:00:45.119 it, but it introduced like it turned it basically into like quake. Yeah, 898 01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:52.159 it was a pretty decent shooter for all this stuff in my in Minecraft 899 01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:53.559 and the tools. Wow, that video you're showing right now, it looks 900 01:00:53.880 --> 01:00:57.840 actually pretty I see, it looks so dope. It's for audio listeners. 901 01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:00.360 It is just someone with a basically a grapple hook that works like Spider Man, 902 01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:02.440 but they got a Spider Man's skin on. They know what they're doing. 903 01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:07.760 Then it just Okay, that's really cool. We're going Spider Man two. 904 01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:10.159 Yep, this is Spider Man two now. But the wild thing with 905 01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:15.199 and the cool thing with Minecraft is just like how the community has wanted building 906 01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:20.239 maps of real life locations. Uh. In the GB discord yesterday, someone 907 01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:25.239 shared that someone had re painstakingly created Disneyland. Yeah, and it was a 908 01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:30.760 pretty one for one type of recreation. So I mean imagine, like you 909 01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:35.480 know, you're the gimmicks are old enough to be able to use a mouse, 910 01:01:35.519 --> 01:01:38.400 some keyboard or a controller and just explore around that and then from there 911 01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:44.440 they can build their own stuff in Minecraft on top of like the existing locations 912 01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:47.400 that are built. I mean, they would even like we're building stuff like 913 01:01:47.440 --> 01:01:51.280 that. Uh. They love doing VR and going to places we could like 914 01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:52.719 build it and then put on the VR headset and go visit it in like 915 01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:57.760 real scale or whatever. They Yeah, they'd be into that. So uh 916 01:01:57.880 --> 01:02:00.159 yeah, another round of Minecraft is in the cards somewhere there, Jan, 917 01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:05.039 We'll figure something out while we have time. We have too many great ideas, 918 01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:07.119 too many great ideas. It's in the cards. Like I said, 919 01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:10.519 we'll see if it ever gets dealt out, But we'll see, all right. 920 01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:16.599 I have the poll here somewhere. I'll bring this up that we discussed 921 01:02:16.840 --> 01:02:20.880 yesterday and me frame it up properly because I just put that video there. 922 01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:25.960 Do you ever buy games that you know are bad? I'm gonna say, 923 01:02:25.960 --> 01:02:30.880 hell yeah, I do, and twenty two percent said hell yeah I do, 924 01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:35.239 twenty five percent say yes, and fifty three percent say no. I 925 01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:37.280 was at a point in my life, Jan, for a long time where 926 01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:39.639 I was very scared of buying a bad game because it would be like that 927 01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:43.159 was such a waste of money, oh my god, and waste of my 928 01:02:43.639 --> 01:02:46.960 my parents gift that I would get twice a year. But now I'm like, 929 01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:51.559 I am at a point where I deeply appreciate playing a lot of bad 930 01:02:51.599 --> 01:02:55.000 games because I think it gives me a good perspective on things and I'm glad 931 01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:58.880 that, like so many people said, yeah, well let's go buying a 932 01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:01.440 really bad game ever once in a while can be a good thing or a 933 01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:05.960 fun thing. How does that work for you, Jan? Obviously we do 934 01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:07.000 it on the site. It's fun to play, But like it was just 935 01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:09.280 like you and your friends hanging out. Would you ever like buy a bad 936 01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:13.280 game to have like a Mister Science Theater kind of night with it or something 937 01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:16.400 like that. I think only if it was dramatically reduced in sale, like 938 01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:22.000 if it was full full priced, it would still be a harder trigger to 939 01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:27.719 pull, unless you know, the homies and I went all in on a 940 01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:34.119 game together. It's funny because Costco used to only sell bad games. Grub 941 01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:38.840 yes, they only there was a period of time where Costco would not sell 942 01:03:38.920 --> 01:03:43.199 like the latest and greatest PS two games. It would sell like the red 943 01:03:43.239 --> 01:03:45.480 titles, right, the ones that were labeled as greatest hits you were super 944 01:03:45.559 --> 01:03:51.400 cheap, and a lot of it was three D O games. Really for 945 01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:54.880 a while, that's wid until like Costco decided like, oh no one's buying 946 01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:59.920 these, let's actually sell all the good games too. I found a set 947 01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:05.639 one dollar copy of Tom Clancy's Ghosts Recon. It was the turn based like 948 01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:09.760 fire emblem style to Tom Clancy game for the three DS, and it was 949 01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:12.440 like a launch game for that and I found it for seven dollars at Sam's 950 01:04:12.440 --> 01:04:14.679 Club and I'm like, oh, that's that's actually a really good deal. 951 01:04:14.719 --> 01:04:18.400 And I got that and that game surprisingly good. But I don't think anybody 952 01:04:18.440 --> 01:04:24.280 knew because it got lost in the shuffle of launch games for the three DS. 953 01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:28.199 But but yeah, for bad games, I think you know that they 954 01:04:28.199 --> 01:04:30.719 are going to go down. And but like I got a physical copy of 955 01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:33.199 Balance Wonderworld up there on my wall and that was like five dollars and that 956 01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:36.920 was about a year after it came out. I'm like, bad games like, 957 01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:41.679 definitely wait on them. But yeah, if you can get them cheap, 958 01:04:41.719 --> 01:04:44.719 and you should be able to get them cheap pretty quickly, yeah, 959 01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:46.000 go for it, have fun, enjoy yourself. Thank you, Hammond of 960 01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:49.920 Texasys Tom Clancy's ghost Recon Shadow Wars. It's a good game. A sleeper 961 01:04:49.960 --> 01:04:56.880 hit. Oh boy, what I would The wrench that will be thrown here 962 01:04:57.119 --> 01:05:01.599 is I will pay top dollars for a B game though, sure, yeah, 963 01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:04.199 I mean listening, you just love that Jerry Seinfeld movie so much. 964 01:05:04.280 --> 01:05:11.519 So. I know, I know recent the recent slate of B games, 965 01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:15.920 and in just second tier games, they've been getting better and better, and 966 01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:18.639 I don't know how they're performing across the board, but like that Island two 967 01:05:18.679 --> 01:05:23.000 did really really good, and like, hey, let's keep that going. 968 01:05:23.119 --> 01:05:27.599 I would really appreciate that. Yeah, all right, let's see. We'll 969 01:05:27.599 --> 01:05:30.199 have a new pole here in a second. But in the meantime, Jane 970 01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:31.559 white Toe, people that can find you what we have going on the website, 971 01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:35.280 all that stuff, you can find me just here. I'm always here, 972 01:05:35.400 --> 01:05:41.360 y'all. I don't do anything else except drink coffee and be here. 973 01:05:42.039 --> 01:05:45.599 But that's not an indictment. I love being here. I always love being 974 01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:47.760 here. Let me tell you, damn right what we got going on. 975 01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:55.159 Later today, we have a TNT where we're playing Halo Infinite. We're gonna 976 01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:58.320 run it up. I have no idea what is going to be like. 977 01:05:58.440 --> 01:06:02.599 I forgot to download and oh it's only like one hundred gigabytes. Oh great, 978 01:06:02.639 --> 01:06:06.159 it's cool, it's fine. I got the space. Uh what else 979 01:06:06.159 --> 01:06:10.840 do we got? We also had voicemail Dump Truck later today and after voicemail 980 01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:14.199 dumb truck. Well, everybody, get your forks out. It's the fork 981 01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:17.920 in July. Nothing bad can happen because Friday night forking on Giant Bomb keeps 982 01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:23.039 rolling. And you know, I hear from a little birdie of Grub that 983 01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:25.719 you'll be on today. I'm gonna save that man. I'm gonna save him. 984 01:06:25.719 --> 01:06:29.760 I'm gonna do my best get him back. He needs the coordinates, 985 01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:33.320 yes, to get home. Also, uh, I need to share with 986 01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:38.960 you a document because he may be asking you questions and all the answers are 987 01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:44.039 in this document. Okay, sounds good? Cool cool, Protect the business, 988 01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:46.679 Protect the business, Oh, Sean. You can also download just multiplayer 989 01:06:46.719 --> 01:06:50.559 on PC game Pass because I think I thought about doing that this morning, 990 01:06:50.599 --> 01:06:55.159 but I did it. Oh yeah yeah download on steams are on PC, 991 01:06:55.199 --> 01:06:58.719 so you only download the multiplayer okay, cool? Yeah? Ever get that 992 01:06:58.760 --> 01:07:02.079 done? Get that ready? Yeah? Sorry? A game as mornings as 993 01:07:02.079 --> 01:07:05.920 well tomorrow and upf We gotta figure this out, Grub, because do we 994 01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:10.320 do? Do we want to do a double feature of Spider Man two and 995 01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:14.800 then Super Mario Brothers Wonder or just Super Mario Brothers Wonder. Dan brought up 996 01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:18.119 the idea of like doing a thirty minute pre show to the upf of just 997 01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:21.440 me playing Spider Man two. I don't know. I mean, I'll coming 998 01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:25.960 out with you for that, but we can, Like, I would be 999 01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:30.320 totally down with elongating the sort of overall what we're streaming, doing a little 1000 01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:35.280 bit of Spider Man upfront and then and then maybe dedicating more time to Mario 1001 01:07:35.800 --> 01:07:39.320 play both at the same time. You're right, You're right, Yeah, 1002 01:07:39.400 --> 01:07:43.840 definitely possible. Yeah, definitely make that happen. We'll figure it out though 1003 01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:45.679 everybody. Definitely, there will definitely be a lot of Mario and there should 1004 01:07:45.679 --> 01:07:48.320 be a significant amount of Spider Man. Want I want to play that on 1005 01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:53.760 the site too, so we'll see. All right, the new poll, 1006 01:07:53.880 --> 01:07:57.559 have you ever played Minecraft? And have you played Minecraft in the last month? 1007 01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:00.639 Not ever? Have you played Minecraft in the last month? Yes or 1008 01:08:00.760 --> 01:08:02.559 no? I'm just curious. I just want to see what the state is 1009 01:08:02.599 --> 01:08:08.519 of Minecraft in our community here. We will discuss that on the show tomorrow 1010 01:08:08.599 --> 01:08:12.840 here on Giant Bomb. Speaking of which, stick with us today and about 1011 01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:15.760 what is it about two hours, an hour and fifty minutes, we'll be 1012 01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:20.079 doing the tnt M. Okay, so get back with us then Until then, 1013 01:08:20.119 --> 01:08:23.239 though, Jan, thank you so much for hanging out with me today 1014 01:08:23.279 --> 01:08:26.600 talking about video games. You know I appreciate it. Best way to start 1015 01:08:26.640 --> 01:08:29.800 a Thursday. Thank you all for watching. You're the best audience in gaming. 1016 01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:32.800 Until next time, have a good one, take care of yourself and 1017 01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:38.319 goodbye. Pay them