1 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,400 What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to season two, episode eleven 2 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,679 of Clips and Dip. We're part of the two win three Empire. I 3 00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:22,800 am Chuck Mockler, joined by Adam Oslind and William Updike. We talked the 4 00:00:22,839 --> 00:00:26,079 clips three times a week during the season, around once a week during the 5 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,800 offseason. You know, we're all very busy and nothing's really happening. Before 6 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,799 we kind of get into the main stuff, we're gonna be talking the Clippers 7 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,200 power forwards heading into training camp. They'll seem pretty solidified. Then later we're 8 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,520 gonna kind of talk about if Kobe Brown could be a contributor. I've been 9 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,759 watching a bunch of his highlights, probably too much, and I might be 10 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,520 too hyped up on what he can bring to the Clippers. And then the 11 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:52,560 Buddy Healed news that came out earlier today. The Pacers are looking to trade 12 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,159 him because they couldn't have got an extension, So of course we have to 13 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,000 talk about that. But first, will how the hell are you? Buddy? 14 00:01:00,119 --> 00:01:03,200 Back on the show. You're refreshed, Adam, I hold this thing 15 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,640 up without you. No thumbnails on the YouTube videos. It's been a nightmare. 16 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,040 Classic, classic, classic, nicknames. Either, let's get it going. 17 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:19,359 Oh our first, let's see first message here from a tube at Clippers 18 00:01:19,359 --> 00:01:23,760 podcast on YouTube. Dj F Music Production says, get rid of Morris keep 19 00:01:23,799 --> 00:01:27,200 with two. Sure, yeah, we'll talk some problem with that. We'll 20 00:01:27,239 --> 00:01:32,280 talk some more power forwards in this. We have a pretty strict rundown about 21 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,319 these things. He's pretty pretty heavily scripted. In case you couldn't. You 22 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:41,120 can't tell, but we will definitely get into that, you know, common 23 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:46,480 opinion in old clipper clipper dumb. Before we get back to that or get 24 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,120 to that, Adam, let's talk your big yellow hat. This is a 25 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,239 new look for those of you not watching. Are you a Ducks fan? 26 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,680 I went over college where they think it's funny to say, hey, we're 27 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,000 undefeated since nineteen twenty because we never had a football team at Biola University, 28 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,439 so I was kind of a free agent. A few of my buddies went 29 00:02:06,439 --> 00:02:09,360 to Oregon, and I like the Pacific Northwest. I visited there once and 30 00:02:09,439 --> 00:02:15,080 the people, what once does it for you? They sold me on it. 31 00:02:15,159 --> 00:02:20,479 But you know, I love the old Huey, Dewey and Louis characters 32 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,080 from Disney and the original one because they were all primary colors. It was 33 00:02:25,159 --> 00:02:29,719 red, blue, and yellow, and so the yellow really stuck out to 34 00:02:29,759 --> 00:02:31,080 me and spoke to me, and so I was like, you know what, 35 00:02:31,439 --> 00:02:35,400 Organ's kind of awesome. And speaking of Disney, they used to have 36 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,400 the freaking Donald Duck as their mascot before I think they just severed ties and 37 00:02:39,439 --> 00:02:46,639 now his name is Puddles Disney. Well, if someone sends in some weird 38 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:53,520 looking Oregon Ducks apparel, Adam will wear its top. I wear anything that's 39 00:02:53,599 --> 00:03:00,960 somewhat I guess revealing and also non offensive. And yeah, and we deem 40 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:07,800 what is use discretion there? I was wondering who was gonna say something about 41 00:03:07,879 --> 00:03:12,360 Dylan Brooks. It's to Mezarlimarrazarli in the chat, thank you for watching Tomara, 42 00:03:12,439 --> 00:03:16,960 fantastic Clippers journalist. You're a fan of Aaron Brooks with the that's fair 43 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:23,280 shout out Seattle. All right, let's get into ranking the Clippers power forwards 44 00:03:23,319 --> 00:03:27,199 heading into training camp, which is not a very fun. We're not gonna 45 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,599 lead with the buddy stuff. We can lead. Do you want to talk, 46 00:03:29,599 --> 00:03:31,159 buddy, Let's talk, buddy. We're getting type fun buddy, We're 47 00:03:31,159 --> 00:03:35,680 getting some buddy talk in the chat. Let's do it. See if I 48 00:03:35,759 --> 00:03:39,240 had said that, Chuck would have just accosted me for not looking at the 49 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:45,439 rundown that segment to Animal's roll with you will say it with a drink and 50 00:03:45,479 --> 00:03:47,159 you're cool with it. You don't look at the rundown. Adams like, 51 00:03:47,159 --> 00:03:52,039 what are we talking about? We'll not look at the rundown and look at 52 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,280 it. We just mentioned the Buddy trade in the headline of this video, 53 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,919 So yeah, sorry, We're getting really in the weeds here, Chuck. 54 00:03:58,199 --> 00:04:00,000 Why don't you break this down for us? What what's going on right now 55 00:04:00,039 --> 00:04:04,199 with our friend or I feel like he comes up a lot in Clipper's conversation. 56 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,240 What's going on with our good old friend Buddy Healed and the Indiana Pacers. 57 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,080 He is being made available for a trade. It seems amicable. They 58 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,079 can't really figure out this whole extension thing, and now he's available for trade. 59 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:21,399 That's what we know. I asked. We asked Clippers fans over on 60 00:04:21,439 --> 00:04:26,639 Clippers Twitter trade for Buddy Heald or no. Fifty two of the one hundred 61 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,319 or so votes said no. Someone said we have too many guards. But 62 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,160 this was also someone i'd seen talk about that we should trade for Harden. 63 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,439 So I'm not really sure we're there thinking there. But Adam, since it 64 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,360 looks like you got the rundown open, where do you feel like? Where 65 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,480 are you on the spectrum of does this interest you at all? Does Buddy 66 00:04:43,519 --> 00:04:46,560 Healed? Would that move the needle for you? He's making nineteen mill this 67 00:04:46,639 --> 00:04:50,240 year and then he has two more years on his contract. For the money 68 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,959 heads out there, it depends perhaps that person that was saying we have too 69 00:04:54,959 --> 00:04:59,199 many guards guards is just expecting James Harden to be one of them. In 70 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,199 that case, obviously Buddy Healed isn't much of an option, but he wants 71 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:08,160 to be paid after this season. So if you're taking him in as a 72 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:13,240 rental to help boost up the roster and the shooting overall this year, just 73 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,920 for this year, and then it depends on who you're giving up, I 74 00:05:16,959 --> 00:05:21,560 think it's something to look at. But he is very one dimensional. He's 75 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,839 a great three point shooter. I just saw this tweet where you can make 76 00:05:25,879 --> 00:05:30,480 the argument of high volume three point shooters. He's near Steph in that area. 77 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:35,920 He the last six seasons is the only other player outside of Steph and 78 00:05:36,079 --> 00:05:42,120 his illustrious, greatest shooter of all time career that has taken at least eight 79 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:46,720 three pointers per game and a shot over forty percent on those threes. So 80 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,199 it's not just like with Luke Kennard, it was more about, Okay, 81 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:56,079 he's only taking four of them or whatever it was. But he was absolutely 82 00:05:56,199 --> 00:05:59,120 deadly and lethal from beyond the arc. But yeah, he wouldn't shoot him 83 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,680 at times. He would get reprimanded for that by coach Leu. Buddy Healed 84 00:06:02,759 --> 00:06:06,240 has no problem getting them up. He's been doing it back to his days 85 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:11,360 with Oklahoma when people said it is he the next STEPH Curry. That's not 86 00:06:11,439 --> 00:06:15,000 the case. The rest of the game has never materialized like that. But 87 00:06:15,079 --> 00:06:19,399 he is unbelievable as an off guard, spot up shooter. The problem is 88 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:25,519 defensively, I'm looking at his rating overall and it's one fifteen. Now he's 89 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:30,160 been on bad defensive teams. It's hard to kind of separate defensive rating and 90 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,879 parcel it out for an individual defender. But yeah, I also have watched 91 00:06:32,959 --> 00:06:36,680 him a little bit being from Sacramento, and he was, you know, 92 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:41,360 a star coming out of Oklahoma and a star in the tournament, and I 93 00:06:41,399 --> 00:06:45,759 believe ended up losing to the Oregon Ducks. Was it? I think so, 94 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,399 no idea. I think that's what happened, But they went to the 95 00:06:50,399 --> 00:06:55,959 Final four that year that to go through Oklahoma. But he is a liability 96 00:06:55,959 --> 00:07:00,319 on that end in the same way that Luke Kennard was. So if you're 97 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:02,720 trying to find guys that don't have a lot of holes in their games that 98 00:07:02,759 --> 00:07:08,360 don't hurt you on one end, Buddy healed, isn't that He's someone where 99 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,000 if everybody else is good defensively out there on the floor, they're still going 100 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,959 to try to pick on him, match up hunt him. So that can 101 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,720 be problematic for this Clippers team, But it really just depends on what you 102 00:07:18,759 --> 00:07:21,120 would give up for him. If you're playing it out like, hey, 103 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,759 he's a rental for eighteen million dollars and we're not giving up much, Well, 104 00:07:25,959 --> 00:07:29,800 yeah, I think that is someone that could help this Clippers team right 105 00:07:29,839 --> 00:07:34,519 away this season because yeah, because the number is kind of weird, right, 106 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,879 he's at nineteen mill, which if you're the Clippers, I mean, 107 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:43,519 hey, we could do norm for Buddy straight up, but that doesn't really 108 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,279 do anything right, Like, I don't think either team is really hype with 109 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,600 that. I don't think that. Yeah, speaking of the number, that 110 00:07:49,759 --> 00:07:57,240 nineteen number tomare in the chat spicy as Charles said, breaks up an interesting 111 00:07:57,279 --> 00:08:01,920 point in that training loot to acquired by eight months later, you're paying more 112 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:07,839 money for an older player that would essentially I mean, I mean be the 113 00:08:07,879 --> 00:08:13,360 same like right, It's the only difference is it's expiring. Luke's still under 114 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:18,879 contract for what fifteen sixteen, So I mean in terms of fit, like, 115 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:26,000 I don't really see the fit necessarily. I do see if you're looking 116 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,519 to the future, you're looking to make a big swing in the off season, 117 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,440 which you will be by next offseason. It's already too late, I 118 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,519 feel like, kind of because you're you're kind of hard capped with the you 119 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,799 know, the second apron Wolves and everything that goes into that. But if 120 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,159 you are trying to make a salary dumping move, that's kind of all that 121 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,039 I really see is like a long term play because the fall off to me 122 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:54,519 from norm to buddy health, you know, notwithstanding orwithstanding whichever whichever, I 123 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,639 don't really see it as an upgrade on the roster, and I don't super 124 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:03,399 see the fit anyway. It's definitely an overall much better player. Yeah, 125 00:09:03,519 --> 00:09:07,000 I mean everything that he brings offensively. No, he's not a great playmaker 126 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,200 just like Buddy Healed, but he can score on three levels. Buddy Healed 127 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:16,720 is one that's just a great elite sniper on the outside when Norm doesn't do 128 00:09:16,759 --> 00:09:20,279 the foul baiting as much. Yeah, I think we all like his game 129 00:09:20,279 --> 00:09:22,039 more. But it has worked recently, which has been great. I saw 130 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,519 some people on Twitter really kind of shooting for the moon, which would be 131 00:09:26,759 --> 00:09:31,559 a trade to get Buddy and Miles Turner, which would be like the biggest 132 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,320 of all swings. Again, another name that Clippers fans love to hope for 133 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,600 to be on the team, Miles Turner. He did get thirty one and 134 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,039 twenty nine dropped on him by Evita Zoobots, which was pretty cool to watch. 135 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,679 But that seems like a pipe dream. I think doing that big of 136 00:09:46,799 --> 00:09:52,840 a of a swing, I don't think you're you're getting rid of Zoo to 137 00:09:52,919 --> 00:09:56,360 bring like that. That money seems big. That's a seismic shift I think 138 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:01,519 in the Clippers roster. If bringing those two guys to make the money work 139 00:10:01,639 --> 00:10:03,360 well, and they finally kind of committed to him, they gave him the 140 00:10:03,399 --> 00:10:09,480 two year extension. Now they could still trade him. It's a tradable contract. 141 00:10:09,919 --> 00:10:13,200 I don't know what stipulations are when they could make that move, but 142 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,320 it seems like they like Miles Turner more than people thought, because for some 143 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:20,200 time it was thought that he was the John Collins, that it was just 144 00:10:20,279 --> 00:10:24,919 inevitable that he was going to get moved eventually, and it was inevitable that 145 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,600 he was a hashtag future Laker, as many Lakers fans thought, and Buddy 146 00:10:28,639 --> 00:10:33,799 healed though, those rumors are absolutely going to start out, Yeah, no 147 00:10:33,879 --> 00:10:37,080 doubt. Although they've done a great job already this off season. I don't 148 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,679 know if they need much more. They brought in Gabe Benson, so I 149 00:10:41,519 --> 00:10:43,759 won't compliment that team. That seems like something you feel very comfortable doing at 150 00:10:43,799 --> 00:10:46,200 him, so you can compliment. Well, yeah, when everybody else was 151 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,440 saying they suck on this podcast and I was like, actually, guys, 152 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,840 they got way better at the trade deadline. There are a problem, and 153 00:10:52,879 --> 00:10:56,559 then they got to the Western Commerce Finals. So I'm just pointing out the 154 00:10:56,639 --> 00:10:58,559 obvious. I don't know, I'm not phrasing them. I don't want them 155 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:07,120 to win, like ignoring ignoring fit, Like it just depends on how low 156 00:11:07,159 --> 00:11:11,679 the asking price is, right, Like if you're shipping out another expiring say 157 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:18,240 Marcus Morris, and you're you're making those salaries work and you have another expiring 158 00:11:18,279 --> 00:11:20,759 asset, Buddy, he'll, as I said, not young, still only 159 00:11:20,799 --> 00:11:26,600 thirty on an expiring deal. Like maybe that's a little bit of of a 160 00:11:26,639 --> 00:11:30,399 sweeter trade chip if you look to make another move later. But like from 161 00:11:30,399 --> 00:11:35,039 a purely fit perspective, I guess I don't really see the need. I 162 00:11:35,039 --> 00:11:39,480 don't really see the need for that player. We have as good of shooters 163 00:11:39,519 --> 00:11:43,480 who can do more and you know, present the same liabilities, obviously defensively. 164 00:11:45,399 --> 00:11:48,440 But yeah, I don't know, man, I'm this one. It 165 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:54,279 doesn't have me. It doesn't have me that tantalized if I'm being perfectly Yeah, 166 00:11:54,399 --> 00:11:58,519 put the Tomaer comment up if you don't mind, will he says? 167 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,080 How far is Indie from Philly? Ass and for a friend? That's been 168 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,200 a popular theme since this news broke two As you work a three teamer that 169 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,960 sends Buddy to Philly and then he who apparently cannot be named on this podcast 170 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:16,279 anymore, gets over to the Clippers. My thing. My thing is with 171 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:22,879 this, We've talked about my opinions on this trade, and I think for 172 00:12:22,919 --> 00:12:28,120 the spot that Philly is in, I don't really know unless like the unless 173 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:33,679 it's beyond repair the relationship or situation. Do you the Clippers really have enough 174 00:12:33,039 --> 00:12:37,320 to sweeten that deal to make that happen, even with their best offer. 175 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:43,519 And let's say somehow now Buddy Healed is involved, if Norm Powell wasn't moving 176 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:48,200 the needle for Philly, like, I don't really know how that sweetens the 177 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,360 pot necessarily? Why is it turned into player that has to remain nameless, 178 00:12:52,399 --> 00:12:58,919 like it's the village things. You guys did a moratorium on this, made 179 00:12:58,039 --> 00:13:01,279 made this rule. People got mad we were talking about him too much. 180 00:13:01,759 --> 00:13:09,399 Some people get mad we're talking about it is PJ. Tucker. I just 181 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,879 say this, the fact that that report is out there from Brian Wynhorse saying 182 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,639 that the Clippers, what was the exact verbage? So that was a goofy 183 00:13:16,759 --> 00:13:22,039 aggregator issue. He clarified those and he kind of basically said, like it's 184 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,679 not like there wasn't column off. It was like a fur now thing, 185 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,279 like the trade talks just kind of fizzled then Zach Lowe also said, like 186 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,519 he expects them to pick back up at another point, so it feels like 187 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,799 we're still just in the mud. Isn't that also a negotiating tactic, like 188 00:13:35,919 --> 00:13:39,360 Hey, I'm not buying the car for this price, and I'll walk away 189 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,639 right now if you don't lower it. I mean right, That's what happens 190 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:48,399 during these things us. We still don't know how bad it's going to get 191 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,360 at training camp or at media day. If James Harden is still on the 192 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,639 Philadelphia seventy six ers, that changes everything. Yeah, training camps in like 193 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:03,159 two and a half weeks something like that. Like you're not watching us on 194 00:14:03,279 --> 00:14:09,519 at Clippers podcast on YouTube, you're missing some fantastic nicknames. So we're so 195 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,759 we're out on the Buddy Healed trade. We're not really sure how the three 196 00:14:13,799 --> 00:14:18,360 teamer works any differently than a two teamer would, because it's not like the 197 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,000 Clippers wouldn't have to give up assets and the one person everyone wants traded as 198 00:14:22,039 --> 00:14:26,879 Marcus Morris. So I understand Clippers fans frustrations of wine to trade Marcus Morris. 199 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:35,440 Why would unless you can get indied to take Tucker and Philly is more 200 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,399 interested in Morris perhaps and the like, you know, it kind of makes 201 00:14:39,399 --> 00:14:41,840 my head hurt. If I'm being perfectly honest, I've had a couple of 202 00:14:41,879 --> 00:14:46,960 weeks off. My head hurts. Plus, the Pacers can actually make a 203 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,960 little bit of noise. I think they could be in contention for maybe a 204 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:56,279 six or seven seed, just getting right outside the play in tournament this year. 205 00:14:56,399 --> 00:15:00,240 Haliburton is that good, and I mean they're not in the contender here, 206 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,639 but I feel like he is a little shaky right now, just like 207 00:15:03,919 --> 00:15:07,799 Hunt here either, like yeah, just you know, just with some of 208 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,519 the stuff going on New Fit in Boston, whatever the hell happens in Philly. 209 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,840 Uh, you know, like you know, there is some there is 210 00:15:13,879 --> 00:15:16,639 some maneuvering. Not that they would be a contender, but I mean, 211 00:15:16,679 --> 00:15:20,200 like it's not insane to think that they would could snag a playoff spot. 212 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,879 Yeah, you know, an underdog run or something like that. I mean 213 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,519 the playoffs. I feel like, what more you want right now here? 214 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,320 Eastern Conference finals? No, I don't know, I'm not a Pacers fan. 215 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,039 He just has more value than Oh you could just offer them Marcus Morris 216 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,519 and maybe they'll take it, because they have to get rid of this player 217 00:15:43,639 --> 00:15:46,440 right now. I don't think that's the case. Some team will at least 218 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,879 package maybe a first round pick or a couple of second round picks to get 219 00:15:50,919 --> 00:15:58,159 Buddy Healed. Whole counterpoint, though, Carlisle remembers the way Morris did Luca. 220 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,279 He was like, that's the guy that I want. That's the guy 221 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:07,519 that I want. Straight up, I'll trade and other teams know that the 222 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:11,399 Clippers are. I don't know if desperate is the adjective I would use right 223 00:16:11,399 --> 00:16:15,600 now, but have already tried to thirsty. I would say, yeah, 224 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:18,759 they've already had a trade in place. Once other teams are like, oh 225 00:16:18,799 --> 00:16:22,840 really, you just want to give us him? Like, it's not going 226 00:16:22,919 --> 00:16:26,639 to be easy for the Clippers to trade Marcus Morris. And even without Luke 227 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:33,200 Kennard, the Clippers don't lack three point shooting, but he fields greatest strength. 228 00:16:33,399 --> 00:16:37,279 Isn't something that this team is in desperate need of? Right? Yeah, 229 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,320 that's a really good call. Is he a good vibes guy? Feels 230 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,039 like he's a good vibes guy. Seems like it. There have been some 231 00:16:44,519 --> 00:16:48,399 I think some issues here and there with Sacramento when he was traded with the 232 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,679 Pelicans and all that. I don't know. I don't know it's temperament exactly. 233 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,559 Adam doesn't know his temperament well. But more importantly, into that fit 234 00:16:56,679 --> 00:17:00,000 doesn't make a ton of sense unless you're giving up a lot, which I 235 00:17:00,039 --> 00:17:04,440 don't know why Indiana would take. I don't see this happening anytime soon. 236 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:10,680 That's a good call. Well, I'm sure we'll see some point again from 237 00:17:11,759 --> 00:17:15,920 Tom? Should can? Should we just send Tom the link to come on 238 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,400 the show. We know he's not doing shit if he's watching our show. 239 00:17:18,759 --> 00:17:22,000 Yeah, I almost feel bad, like, yeah, wait, let me 240 00:17:22,039 --> 00:17:26,240 invite it. He's getting really thirsty right now. He's sending all these an 241 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:30,319 invite. He said, Buddy is available. Though health does matter. Health 242 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,039 does matter for this team we've talked about at NAZI. We need to take 243 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:38,200 the regular season more seriously and all that good stuff. We need healthy guys 244 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,880 like I guess this makes sense. Okay, Tom is being shy. He 245 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,759 does not want to come on the show. He says, can't I just 246 00:17:45,799 --> 00:17:48,440 support from afar. I was about to send him an email with the link 247 00:17:48,519 --> 00:17:56,480 in the subject line join the show cowards, But yes, you get support 248 00:17:56,559 --> 00:17:59,640 from a farm. We appreciate it him. We appreciate you, Tamaric. 249 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,920 Everyone's it also support Tomere's work that he does for the Clippers. All the 250 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,880 beat writers are fantastic. Tomyre's one of those fantastic beat writers. He does 251 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,480 some of the best articles sports well. One reason it would be great to 252 00:18:11,519 --> 00:18:15,319 have him on is because the article he wrote regarding the new load management rules 253 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,400 in the NBA and how he made sure everybody knew Yeah, guys, that 254 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,799 doesn't really apply to the Clippers because they were never listed as resting last year, 255 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,480 Paul George, So it's much ado about nothing. I saved my brothers. 256 00:18:30,039 --> 00:18:32,599 However much they were gonna bet because they you know, if you're a 257 00:18:32,599 --> 00:18:36,599 Clippers fan, people send you things giving you shit about the Clippers and they're 258 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,039 like, oh, like, did you see that the Clippers were the betting 259 00:18:38,079 --> 00:18:41,359 favorite to be the first team to receive, you know, the punishment for 260 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,480 this. And I was like, they won't be they live it, like, 261 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,880 even if you took all of last year and had this role, they 262 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,880 wouldn't be punished for this. Fred Rogan brought me on earlier today on AM 263 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,039 five seventy to talk about it and the first thing was like, so, 264 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,960 how much is this going to affect the Clippers? That was immediately like actually 265 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:07,240 not at all. Literally no. I was kind of ad about it, 266 00:19:07,279 --> 00:19:11,960 like hell yeah, oh is Uh were they the ones who are telling us 267 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,759 we need to talk about more actual dips on the show? Uh? No, 268 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,359 that was Petros and money. Okay, we've got I came back and 269 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,480 then said, well, your name is an hour about dips right now, 270 00:19:22,519 --> 00:19:26,119 I will derail. Listen. All right, let's do an AD break, 271 00:19:26,279 --> 00:19:29,799 Let's talk about power forwards. Then let's talk about dips. Tomyer, if 272 00:19:29,799 --> 00:19:32,440 you want to come on and talk about dips, the invite is there. 273 00:19:33,039 --> 00:19:37,039 Coming up. We're gonna be ranking the Clippers power forwards and then kind of 274 00:19:37,039 --> 00:19:41,200 where that position group ranks within the Clippers itself. But first we have some 275 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,680 ads. If they've been too loud for you, we've gotten that complaint, 276 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,160 believe it or not, go ahead and turn it down. Ads coming up, 277 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,519 and then we are talking power forwards in three two one. All right, 278 00:19:51,559 --> 00:19:55,039 so we're back in and we're talking about the Clippers Power Forwards training camp 279 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,880 starting less than a month. A lot of contention around this position. Actually, 280 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,720 to lead in with the comment because we've talked on this podcast before about 281 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,599 you know, where where is Marcus Morris? Is he officially out of the 282 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,799 starting lineup? Who knows how that's going. But we got a comment that 283 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,400 said, I don't care if we're desperate enough to add a first just to 284 00:20:15,559 --> 00:20:19,240 move Morris for buddy. I think though, I think it that applies for 285 00:20:19,279 --> 00:20:23,359 a lot of fans to Morris in general. I feel like this is the 286 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,920 biggest elephant in the room. Right he was, Oh yeah, he was 287 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:32,599 already on the trade block. It seemed like things were moving there. I 288 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:33,880 think that we got to start with the odd man out. Where do you 289 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,640 guys see Marcus Morris is he? I mean, at this point, it 290 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,240 seems pretty clear he is coming into training camp. Is he going to be 291 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:47,680 back in the starting lineup for your twenty three twenty four Los Angeles Clippers. 292 00:20:48,279 --> 00:20:53,960 I don't see, excuse me, how you can do you know what happened 293 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,839 at the at the end of last season with Morris and him not getting playing 294 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:02,880 time. There was a lot of stuff flying around about why he was not 295 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,400 getting playing time if the red you know, the illness stuff and all that 296 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:11,000 thing. I don't see how you can bring him back to start after how 297 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:15,720 the season kind of ended with that, and because on threads he said bum 298 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:21,920 ass Clippers. Okay, Well, to be fair, I means agree, 299 00:21:22,319 --> 00:21:26,400 I think Morris bro that is damn I should change Damn. That's a really 300 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,119 good Can't both sides be wrong though in in situations sometimes absolutely, the level 301 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:36,599 of trolling and going after his family and all of that was beyond the pale 302 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:41,200 and ridiculous. Also, calling people bumb ass Clippers fans probably isn't the best 303 00:21:41,279 --> 00:21:45,200 way to handle it. And his defense, he said on threats he didn't 304 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,319 tweet it. Yeah, I think I think that the fan thing and the 305 00:21:48,319 --> 00:21:52,519 threads thing is a little bit like irrelevant, you boy, Greg says, 306 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,839 knowing that the Clippers tried to trade him, if he's still in the team 307 00:21:56,839 --> 00:22:00,559 by training camp, how does that affect the team so regardless of whether he's 308 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:04,079 in the starting lineup or not. Look, I mean, we've kind of 309 00:22:04,079 --> 00:22:10,319 heard mixed things about Morris. It seems like he is at times a good 310 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,480 locker room guy. It seems like at times not He's not the kind of 311 00:22:14,519 --> 00:22:18,039 guy that I want sewing discontent like a vet who's been on this team, 312 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:25,759 you know, longer than like it has a lot of seemingly has a lot 313 00:22:25,799 --> 00:22:30,640 of pulling here. I don't know if that's a guy, and I don't 314 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,160 know what the conversations have been, but assuming that he is on the team 315 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,400 in training camp and coming in the open season, regardless of where he sits 316 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,359 on the roster spot, there has to be something done to both clarify his 317 00:22:41,519 --> 00:22:48,400 role and to smooth over whatever sort of ill will kind of kind of happen 318 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,960 there. Assuming that he is still on the team, which at this point 319 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,359 on September twentieth, I am assuming he is going to be on this team 320 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,000 in training camp and likely for the season opening, which I don't see. 321 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,160 I put this one comment on that Carter Kian just said, which I think 322 00:23:03,319 --> 00:23:07,720 is an interesting point. He's I think Tie will want him here if he's 323 00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:10,920 on the team. Adam, I'm sorry, I cut your greed. Do 324 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,720 you have thoughts on that? That seems like a very won him in the 325 00:23:12,759 --> 00:23:18,839 starting lineup? No, just they're not line up like one him around. 326 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,599 I think on the team he's around, So what does that mean. I 327 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,960 think that's a good point though, because I do think that they have a 328 00:23:26,039 --> 00:23:29,920 relationship and regardless of where he stands in the starting lineup, which I think 329 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,599 we're on agreement. Hopefully opening night he's not in the starting lineup, But 330 00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:38,400 I do think that the relationship that they've been like that they've had thus far 331 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:45,559 would indicate to me that that is probably the best if they're if things are 332 00:23:45,599 --> 00:23:48,240 to be smoothed over, that's probably like, you know, the light at 333 00:23:48,279 --> 00:23:49,400 the end of the time, or the best thing is that they do have 334 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:56,119 this sort of relationship. And I will not elaborate any further. Thank you, 335 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,039 don't be a weird ass. Yeah, if he is around, I'm 336 00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:06,640 guessing there was some conversation had, whether it's about his playing time and his 337 00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:11,599 role coming into this season and expectations with coach lou whether it's him and teammates 338 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,440 who do all seem to like him. And I think parlor reason that he 339 00:24:15,559 --> 00:24:19,559 was starting was because Kauai and Paul George feel comfortable with him out there, 340 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,559 whether or not you believe he's still a floor spacer or was the second half 341 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,799 of the season. I think parlor reason he was out there is because they 342 00:24:26,839 --> 00:24:32,240 think he can create for himself and get buckets and it's nice to have that 343 00:24:32,319 --> 00:24:37,799 option and he helps give them more room to operate. I just have to 344 00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:41,960 think after the way things ended last year, there's going to be some type 345 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:48,160 of dialogue behind the scenes with Marcus Morris and what's going to be his role 346 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,319 moving forward. Maybe they've been talking so much about it. Tyler ran out 347 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,279 of minutes. That's why he hasn't talked to Robert. At the end of 348 00:24:56,319 --> 00:25:00,079 the season, I ran out a minute not of him rolled over. So 349 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,359 I feel like that transition is pretty naturally, Like naturally, let's talk a 350 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,480 little bit about Robert Cummington, Like where do you guys see him at? 351 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,119 Do you think things are going to be better than last season? I will 352 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:17,000 say from a pr perspective, we haven't seen a lot of Robert Cummington offseason 353 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,400 content from the Clippers account. What did he like seven one hundred minutes? 354 00:25:21,519 --> 00:25:25,240 Don't know what to make of that. I think he played around seven hundred 355 00:25:25,319 --> 00:25:30,599 minutes, which is some say, you know, maybe he deserved more minutes. 356 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,519 It's a gentleman's eight hundred. He was minutes played. Last season. 357 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:41,839 He was ninth in minutes played behind a guy who was traded in Reggie Jackson. 358 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,640 By about okay, Well, they don't play the same position. I 359 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,559 feel like that's not a fair he was he was under eight hundred. I 360 00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:52,480 don't know what's going to happen with Roco. We This is somehow a guy 361 00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:56,519 who had a really great, you know, first stint with the Clippers. 362 00:25:56,559 --> 00:26:03,160 It was fantastic, obviously some abnormal shooting splits for some of it, and 363 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,960 then the second chapter was terrible and now we're just kind of at square one 364 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,200 again. It almost feels like with Rowco is that no one knows is he 365 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,519 gonna get playing time? I don't know, based on the playoffs or how 366 00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:18,799 the season ended, probably not right Like I just feel like last season could 367 00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:25,599 turn out to be an aberration in the way minutes were allocated, given by 368 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,160 stuff that the front office talked about, given with treating the regular season more 369 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,720 seriously, given more defined roles. Coming into this year where you don't have 370 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,759 three guards and John Wall and Luke Kennard and Reggie Jackson who are all lying 371 00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:45,079 for minutes, I just think it's going to be different around this team, 372 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:52,519 and Rowco could benefit from that because the schedule's too tough. I don't see 373 00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:56,880 how they can't play him more. He ended up at seven hundred and seventy 374 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,240 nine minutes. Marcus Morris played more than twice as any minutes than that. 375 00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:06,200 He was fourth on the team in minutes played. Nicholas batoum over twice as 376 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,279 many minutes than that. He's a year older. Now, how do you 377 00:27:10,319 --> 00:27:15,079 get buy in the regular season with a team that's older. Well, you 378 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,279 gotta platoon guys a little bit more. You have to save legs by using 379 00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:22,920 if you still have all these power forwards, if you still have freeze and 380 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,319 fours and wings that can play out there, just divvy up the minutes a 381 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,519 little bit more to keep legs fresh. But I think I feel like we 382 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,200 said all this last year too, like that that's what I guess, but 383 00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:37,720 we didn't have three guards that I just mentioned where they try to make it 384 00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:41,480 work with three guard lineups and four guard lineups. But I just hope it 385 00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:47,039 happens. I mean, with the more a situation definitely makes me more excited 386 00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:51,000 about Rocco's playing time, right, Like, it seems like this is an 387 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,960 inroad even if he's still on the team when camp starts, that Rocos should 388 00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:00,880 get more minutes because after we don't like Morris, Rocco and Batum where the 389 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:07,440 power forwards basically last year, that's who played power forward last year. I'm 390 00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:11,279 kind of curious, to be nice, like, if that's our whole core 391 00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:15,079 plus kJ Martin going to the next year, which I want to talk a 392 00:28:15,079 --> 00:28:18,000 little bit more about kJ Martin here in a second. I'm just curious, 393 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,839 though, your guys thoughts on this. So I know that there's been a 394 00:28:19,839 --> 00:28:25,920 lot of disappointment from fans about this Clippers off season, you know, moves 395 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:32,599 not moves made. You know, I feel like last season maybe we didn't 396 00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:37,640 give enough credit to how many things they were still kind of fucking around with, 397 00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:40,599 like for lack of a better term, like in terms of you know, 398 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,720 making the John Wall thing work and then you know later bringing in Westbrook. 399 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,319 Could there be a benefit to like, let's say, you know, 400 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,400 things stand where they do right now and nothing happens on the Philadelphia front, 401 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:57,440 there's no additional guards brought in. Could that be a benefit and actually bringing 402 00:28:57,559 --> 00:29:03,000 some more clarity to the wing rotation, which I do think, you know, 403 00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:07,440 aside from all the issues the Clippers had last season, what's questionable at 404 00:29:07,519 --> 00:29:11,240 times, Yeah, it's questionable right now, Like it's a questionable power forward 405 00:29:11,359 --> 00:29:17,279 core we have right now the fact that none of these guys have been moved, 406 00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:19,880 and in fact, they brought in two more players you could say that 407 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:26,880 could possibly play the four in Kobe Brown and kJ Martine. That really could 408 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,279 create havoc at the position. I just don't see the log jam right now. 409 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,720 It was guard last year, it happened at power forward this year. 410 00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:38,720 I just don't see any scenario where Marcus Morris is fourth and minutes this year 411 00:29:40,079 --> 00:29:44,440 after a three month stretch at the end of last season where he shot around 412 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,359 thirty percent from three. Because the difference is when he got off to a 413 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,640 slow start last year, it was, Hey, this happens with him. 414 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,799 Sometimes older legs, he settles in, he finds his shooting stroke. But 415 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,480 instead this time it fell off a cliff. The last three months of the 416 00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:07,319 season, you got a pretty big sample size of a player looking to just 417 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:12,960 age drastically and not be the guy that he used to be at all for 418 00:30:14,039 --> 00:30:18,759 a three month sample. That's that's the difference to me, Like you, 419 00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:22,319 you know who he was at the end of last year. He drove his 420 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:27,960 Rascal scooter off a cliff. Is how I would describe Marcus Morris. Uh 421 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,920 final close to the season, the names are getting insane again. If you're 422 00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:37,079 if you're just lessening, you need to watch this on YouTube at Clippers or 423 00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:41,960 excuse me, YouTube dot com Slash at Clippers podcast. So how to mention 424 00:30:42,039 --> 00:30:45,960 though, Also you have all these power forwards and last year it was well 425 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,119 they might play Roco at center because they don't have a Mason Plumley coming into 426 00:30:51,119 --> 00:30:53,799 the year like they do this time, Like where do they fit in when 427 00:30:53,799 --> 00:30:57,640 Plumbley is also there? You actually have a backup five. So this is 428 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,119 what I kind of wanted to talk about, was like, how do we 429 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:06,000 rank our current power forward core of known quantities because we talked about Kobe Brown, 430 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,960 who were going to kind of close the shot with a little bit. 431 00:31:07,359 --> 00:31:11,400 But our power forwards Marcus Morris played eighty one percent of his minutes of power 432 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:18,000 forward, Rocco seventy three percent of his limited minutes, but Tomb sixty percent 433 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,200 of his minutes of power forward, the other forty percent at center, which 434 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,880 is I can't imagine that's going to happen again next year. And then the 435 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,319 next highest was pg with twenty six, so I'm not really going to count 436 00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:32,480 him as a power forward. kJ Martin is really interesting. In twenty twenty 437 00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:36,759 one, he played seventy six percent of his minutes at power forward. In 438 00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:41,359 twenty twenty two thirteen percent for the Rockets. We got to assume the Clippers 439 00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:44,920 are going to pay him at power forward. I think, so where how 440 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,000 do we rank Marcus Morris, Robert Comington, Nick Batoum, and kJ Martin, 441 00:31:49,599 --> 00:31:52,160 So the Clippers power forwards, Like, I don't want to start it 442 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,000 out there. I guess I want to start with kJ Martin, And yeah, 443 00:31:56,039 --> 00:32:00,160 I don't foresee him in the starting lineup, but I do think you 444 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:05,440 know those three four minutes, as in regards to his previous seasons, how 445 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,000 it shakes out with the Clippers is gonna be how much time he spends on 446 00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:13,160 floor with one or both of Paul and Kawhi, Like, I think, 447 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,319 I think that's absolutely gonna happen. And it's like chaos in Houston, So 448 00:32:16,359 --> 00:32:21,359 I think that is also a legitimate factor to throw in as it is no, 449 00:32:21,559 --> 00:32:24,440 okay, Houston is a terrible franchise right. As for like, who 450 00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:30,160 I want to see like the in the starting role. I mean, I 451 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,799 think he got to give Robert Covington a shot. I feel like, why 452 00:32:31,839 --> 00:32:39,039 not who doesn't like to start? And that was his message last year. 453 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:44,000 He doesn't like to start was some of that because he didn't want to step 454 00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:46,880 on Marcus Morris's toes, and that was a way to make sure Marcus was 455 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,480 still starting, and there was that pecking order there. I don't know, 456 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,839 No one can know that. There was some chatter. I will say there 457 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:59,319 was some chatter that Nico, uh, pace wise, there was some maybe 458 00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:02,200 some issues was starting with Westbrook too, which was some stuff last year. 459 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,759 There was a little bit of chatter about that. Just so not that that 460 00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:08,400 nine Nico was like it's bad. He just like I think he understood that 461 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:13,599 maybe he wasn't as couldn't really play at that pace sometimes that Westbrook wanted to 462 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,559 and he likes to let the game come to him, you know, off 463 00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:19,519 the bench, because that's how he could be effective. Well. And then 464 00:33:19,559 --> 00:33:23,319 it comes to what was the real reason that Robert Covington wasn't playing last season? 465 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:29,039 Was it something that we couldn't identify some advanced numbers out there and what 466 00:33:29,119 --> 00:33:32,599 they didn't want him a new stat to fall into. Well, we had 467 00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:37,720 the Marcus Morris stat from Justin Rousseau. What it's said about rebounding percentage as 468 00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:40,839 a team when he was out there on the floor, I don't know if 469 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,279 there was something lingering out there from Robert Covington and something we didn't know. 470 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,960 Obviously started off very slow from beyond the arc, but he ended up shooting 471 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,480 thirty nine percent from three, so he caught fire by the end of the 472 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:58,759 season. Granted still in limited minutes. But sometimes when a guy doesn't play, 473 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,480 it has something to do with practice and what the coach is seeing there 474 00:34:01,839 --> 00:34:07,200 and not fitting. And that's only something they would know internally. I don't 475 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:12,599 know, but for a vet that you know that has this body of work 476 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,760 and what he can bring to a team to not be playing, it's just 477 00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:20,760 really curious that nobody's really had a beat on it, and even this offseason 478 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,440 with him saying he and coach Lew hasn't taught. I don't know if you 479 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,880 want to read into that or not, but it doesn't seem like there's I 480 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,599 was just making a joke when I brought that up earlier. I don't want 481 00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:32,679 to read into that. I think that not talking to to your co worker 482 00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:37,440 when you're not at work is normal. The one thing I think about with 483 00:34:37,519 --> 00:34:43,400 Robert Covington, is him being a good soldier and not making a stink about 484 00:34:43,519 --> 00:34:52,079 not playing maybe worked against him. Remember when it came I'm not saying that 485 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,559 Robert to bang his hands on the table and kick his feet and say I'm 486 00:34:55,639 --> 00:35:00,480 being stinky. But if the rumors are true that you have one guy and 487 00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:05,679 Marcus Morris, who will make noise about not playing, and then you have 488 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,960 someone like Robert Covington who will fall in line and be okay with whatever role 489 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:14,440 he has given, maybe you lean towards playing Marcus Morris because of that, 490 00:35:14,599 --> 00:35:16,079 or just because you trust him more. He's been with the team more, 491 00:35:16,159 --> 00:35:24,360 you have a relationships stinky, Okay, I'm just I'm pontificating, just throwing 492 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:30,559 out some conjecture of what the reasoning could be behind Robert Covington not playing much 493 00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:35,119 last season and then what's going to change, what's going to change this year. 494 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,280 I think he sends bad memes to the team group chat. I think 495 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,840 he said shitty memes. I think he sends bad memes and it's good. 496 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,239 They're not good. These are okay, they're only getting right. I think 497 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:57,239 the thing with Morris is I love it Garlic that's it. The thing for 498 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,440 me is I don't want to see between thrust Back in the starting lineup. 499 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,280 There's nothing to do with ability. Has to do for me more with the 500 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,280 way in which he's utilized what he's asked to do his age. We know 501 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,760 his plans at this point. You know, he's not looking for another contract 502 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,239 after this. This is likely the last hurrah. I would love to get 503 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,519 him at his most effective, which I think at this point in his career 504 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,559 is not necessarily in the story line up. And that's not a knock on 505 00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:27,079 him. I think, you know, if physically he was there, if 506 00:36:27,159 --> 00:36:30,679 longevity wise, that was the best decision, you know, I would trust 507 00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:34,519 the team to make that. But I think from what we've seen, I 508 00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:37,920 think that he's better in sort of a bench role, in sort of like 509 00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:42,039 you know, break in case of emergency, not even of emergency, because 510 00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:44,920 he's gonna be used a lot. But you know what I'm saying. So 511 00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:47,079 now this comes back to the point we're trying to rank the power forwards for 512 00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:51,840 the Clippers. We don't want Marcus Morris to start. We maybe don't think 513 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:57,440 Robert Covington should be the starter either. I never said that. I never 514 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:02,440 said that, but I think that pains the pick stinky. I think that 515 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:08,320 pains a picture of how messy this Clippers power Forward. That's the Clippers, 516 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:14,239 baby, It's not good. Never would have foreseen if we go back to 517 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,920 end of May or early June. One of the things we talked about is, 518 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,400 oh, of course the power forward position is going to be cleaned up. 519 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,599 We said, at this point, we probably have a much better idea 520 00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:35,920 of who's going to be starting at power Forward because somebody would have been moved. 521 00:37:35,199 --> 00:37:39,400 Idea that has not transpired at all. They tried to make it happen 522 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,960 with Marcus Morris. We can read Tea Leaves that way that he's the odd 523 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,920 man out because they tried to trade him. I don't think it's reading Tea 524 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,400 Leaves. I think you're reading a book at that point that says the Clippers 525 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,440 tried to trade this guy and then it didn't. It fell through. It's 526 00:37:52,559 --> 00:38:00,000 reading a tweet from Woades that said he was traded. Well, I guess 527 00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:05,079 my thing is is coming into this offseason. You know, we talked about 528 00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:07,760 this on the podcast. We talked about this multiple times, even in the 529 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:15,440 absence of acquiring some new great talent right like some some top tier or second 530 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:21,639 tier talent. I thought the clickers were in firm need of a reconsolidation, 531 00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:24,239 right. Uh. And and and the wing position, I feel like most 532 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:30,599 glaring Uh, that hasn't happened. Sort of the opposite has happened. We've 533 00:38:30,679 --> 00:38:35,280 we've sort of thrown another hat into the ring. Uh, you know with 534 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:40,320 Martin and I I don't know. Yeah, Like I said, I hope 535 00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:45,960 that, you know, assuming nothing changes from from where we are right now 536 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,920 with the guard position, that this is something that they can focus a little 537 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,079 bit more on. But also I'm also curious too if this season, you 538 00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:58,360 know, knowing where so many of our players at, knowing where the you 539 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,880 know, the age of the teams, that, assuming that we don't acquire 540 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:07,000 any new talent, how does the sample size change for ty Lou this season? 541 00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:12,920 Like instead of and we've seen we've seen we've seen like ten games sample 542 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,639 sizes, We've seen things that are maybe a little too much leeway, Like 543 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,599 is this the season, especially at this power forward position, especially like at 544 00:39:22,639 --> 00:39:30,360 a spot where I would say group on the Clippers, group on the Clippers, 545 00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:37,559 or or do we just finally shift Paul George and Kauai down a position, 546 00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:39,880 because then where how does that change your power Forward rankings? Because then 547 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:46,000 it's very clear to me it's one. But he's like, that's what. 548 00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:52,280 So you're totally like that is the path to making this a much better scenario. 549 00:39:52,400 --> 00:40:00,360 You spread out Kauai's kind of positional percentages basically, but that also, 550 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:05,880 we would hope means, oh, Terrence man is starting next to Russell Westbrook? 551 00:40:07,159 --> 00:40:12,320 Maybe right, I mean that would be time getting moved. Who's the 552 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:19,000 most likely option a throw that? So co I played nine percent of his 553 00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:23,119 minutes at power forward next year or last excuse me, nine percent? Chuck 554 00:40:23,159 --> 00:40:28,519 see in the future over here, I hope not what how much? Yeah? 555 00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:31,800 Because Marcus Morris was fourth in minutes, right, So I mean that's 556 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,960 a good point. Clips are die brings up a good point in the comments 557 00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:38,760 we can't spend the first half of the season figuring things out this year and 558 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,599 take so much very good point. I will say, I hope we have 559 00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:46,920 things figured out by March, because we play seventeen games them. I think 560 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:52,719 with the starting lineup especially, I do think there's room to play with matchups 561 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:58,119 and and try to figure out, you know what you do in the non 562 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,960 like George and Kwim, but like, we gotta we gotta have something more 563 00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:07,599 ironed out as to what that approach is going to be and how those substitutions 564 00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:10,280 are going to work. And I gotta be honest with you, like despite 565 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:15,119 not I mean, other than Martin not really having you know, a lot 566 00:41:15,199 --> 00:41:17,800 of new talent. We haven't talked about your boy yet, Charles. Sorry, 567 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,480 I apologize for that. We'll get it. I'm not feeling like there's 568 00:41:22,519 --> 00:41:27,360 a lot of clarity there on how that's going to shake out. I don't 569 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,079 want to hear that there's this long runway to start the regular season, because 570 00:41:31,639 --> 00:41:38,039 just because the easiest part of their season starts at the beginning doesn't give you 571 00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:44,440 leeway to tinker much and figure things out because it gets so much more difficult 572 00:41:44,519 --> 00:41:46,920 just three weeks later. It turns into a gauntlet. So to your point, 573 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:52,199 if a runway, I want a Harrier jet one that takes off like 574 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:59,960 a helicopter turn off. I'm getting so heated. Yeah, we're the volleyball 575 00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:04,159 seen in Top Gun. Now. The Clippers airport is one of those scary 576 00:42:04,199 --> 00:42:07,480 ones you see on Discovery Channel where it's like this runway is twenty is two 577 00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:10,159 hundred feet long or like something. All right, well, let's we kind 578 00:42:10,159 --> 00:42:14,159 of got off on a tangent here. Rank your power Forward, Chuck, 579 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,400 I kick it to you. Go ranking my power forwards. In terms of 580 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,239 taking everything into account, not just who I want to see play, I 581 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:30,039 would go, uh, Nico Roco Morris, and then kJ is an unknown 582 00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:34,960 quantity, So I guess I'll go Nico Roco, kJ Morris for what I 583 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,199 think if that's like the depth right like that, that's how I maybe see 584 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:43,679 it. I'm going Kawai. Sure, I'm not Matt. I want that 585 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,159 to happen. I was going off last year stuff. I would love Kawai 586 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:53,239 to play before I'm going Kawai Roko, kJ Morris. What about PG? 587 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,639 PG did play a quarter of his minutes at Power Forward. No, I 588 00:42:57,639 --> 00:43:01,719 don't see it. I don't see it. It's been pretty good. I'm 589 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:06,239 blind, it's been really good. Can't see it. All right, he's 590 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,960 at the four. He's at the four, so there's three other guards out 591 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,599 there. Is that what you tell me? Yeah, that's pretty good. 592 00:43:09,639 --> 00:43:13,599 But up at the three PG at the four, he got Terrence at the 593 00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:17,679 two, Russ at the one Zoo at the five Adam's dream. I'm going 594 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:30,239 Nico Roco kJ Terrence a mirror, All right, Okay, nothing. Both 595 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,960 those guys have played the four plenty the last two years. Plenty? How 596 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,960 many? What's your plenty percentage for the amount of minutes Terrence played at the 597 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,199 four last year? I don't care. What about the year before when it 598 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,039 was more necessary? All right, Terence has played six positions. It was 599 00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:50,480 four percent last year. Let's look it at the previous. That doesn't mean 600 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,559 I can't have it be more or say that he's better than other players that 601 00:43:53,639 --> 00:43:58,960 have played it. I've just given If he goes off the percentage he plays 602 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,519 it, then Marcus Moore, I guess, should be number one, right 603 00:44:00,559 --> 00:44:05,239 because he gave the highest percentage of the four, not at all. He 604 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,800 played twenty percent the year before. I'm giving you a con Wait, so 605 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,039 where's Morris and your ranks again? Adam? He's at the list him, 606 00:44:10,199 --> 00:44:15,440 he's at the He's he's not available, he's end slash. I got plumbly, 607 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:24,800 all right, I will When Adam gets spiteful and negative, it is 608 00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:30,159 so funny. He's not spiteful. Guys, Look at how we shot the 609 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:36,639 last three months, he was legitimately one of the worst players in the NBA. 610 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,800 Well, a mere has some other things that are actually very serious talking 611 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,000 about. So I'm not sure what his season with the Clippers. Guy, 612 00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:45,199 I want Marcus Marcus Morris to thrive and be great, but he wasn't for 613 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:50,119 three months, and he's getting older, and they tried to trade him. 614 00:44:50,519 --> 00:44:53,360 They did not wrong. What's three months in an entire career? Though, 615 00:44:53,400 --> 00:45:00,719 you know, it's more he is now for me for me also, Yeah, 616 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:01,840 Morris is kind of at the bottom of the pecking order. He's at 617 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,880 the bottom of everyone's pecking order. Yeah, there's no one fans can't agree 618 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,480 on anything other than the fact that Marcus Morris should not play Power Forward next 619 00:45:09,519 --> 00:45:14,480 year. It's not about spiteful, It's about results. That's all I care 620 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,039 about. You seem upset about the thread. He said, you're bringing up 621 00:45:16,039 --> 00:45:20,199 a lot. No, I'm upset about the four percent with terrorists. Man 622 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,199 like he can't play f and power Forward he can. The proverbial bumb ass 623 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:31,079 Clipper fan. Yeah, oh, we're gonna talk about all right. We 624 00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:35,199 gotta cut to ads again because we gotta keep the couple of lights we have 625 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,239 on our respective homes on I have one Adam. Adam has no lights. 626 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,039 Oh wait, I think I can see one in the reflection of his sick 627 00:45:43,039 --> 00:45:45,239 ass poster. I'm lighting you up. I don't need lights. I will 628 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:50,360 say, the post looks a little crooked, no disrespect. Coming up, 629 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,079 we're gonna talk Kobe Brown and his path, his path to be a contributor, 630 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,480 as well as some other random stuff, including some Clippers marketing stuff. 631 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,519 But I think I'm the only person in the world who cares about We got 632 00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:07,360 ads coming up in three two. What welcome back in Clips and Dip. 633 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,079 I'm Adam Oslin. We got Chef Mockler, we got will up Dick back 634 00:46:10,199 --> 00:46:15,239 luckily, which means we have the name tags rotating right now. If you're 635 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,400 watching us on YouTube, it's a lot of fun. This is a live 636 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:22,920 episode, but we still take breaks for commercials in case you listen to it 637 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,639 later on, and we try to take care of everybody with the audio levels. 638 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,119 Excuse me, we put it on the audio. You can find us 639 00:46:32,159 --> 00:46:37,559 on iTunes, you can find us on Spotify, you can find us everywhere, 640 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:44,800 and at clippers Pod on Twitter, at Clippers podcast on YouTube. Coming 641 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,400 up, still, we'll talk about Moon. There was some news that was 642 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:52,079 made a little bit earlier today, but first let's talk about Kobe Brown. 643 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:57,159 Chuck, you put them on the rundown for a reason. I know you've 644 00:46:57,199 --> 00:47:00,559 been watching highlights and you're doing a deep dive on him, him and trying 645 00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:05,559 to decipher whether or not he can attribute or contribute something this season to this 646 00:47:05,559 --> 00:47:09,199 clip Clippers team. Yeah. So there was a tweet from Justin w a 647 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:15,280 Ka La Clippers film. Please watch on YouTube if you want to get some 648 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,639 of these gags. We can't keep giving these name gags away for free on 649 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:23,519 the audio pods. Justin w a Ka La Clippers Film someone who you absolutely 650 00:47:23,519 --> 00:47:25,880 should be following if you want to learn more about basketball, if you want 651 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,480 to learn more about the Clippers. It's a It's a great resource. He 652 00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:34,760 tweeted in parentheses, I think there's a real route towards Kobe Brown being somewhat 653 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:39,199 of a contributor for LAC next season. I saw this tweet and then went 654 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:44,199 on a vacation where I was in the woods with no cell service or anything, 655 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,480 and it just had me thinking about how shitty the power forward rotation is 656 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,280 and about how Kobe Brown based on when it did in Summer League, which 657 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,400 might have been an anomaly because the three point percentage was absurd. But he 658 00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:01,079 has tools that helped the Clippers out. Before we talk about kind of what 659 00:48:01,159 --> 00:48:05,400 he does well to get time, not just what he does well kind of 660 00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:09,639 randomly. What does an actual contributor mean to you guys? For Kobe Brown, 661 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:14,280 I'm not talking like, you know, fifth in the team on minutes, 662 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,360 I'm not talking anything like that. Is there a chance he's the third 663 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:22,480 power forward on this team? No, you don't think so. Do you 664 00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:27,960 hear the names that we just rank, they're bad. There's a chance it 665 00:48:28,039 --> 00:48:31,119 gets cleaned up, and therefore he has a better chance of sliding into the 666 00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:36,719 third spot ahead of check. So that's not I'm not trying. I'm here. 667 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,880 I'm not here to put him a segments. I'm here to talk about 668 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,239 how he could find a way to being a legitimate contributor. Here's what he 669 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,639 does. He passes well, he plays good defense, he has switchability, 670 00:48:50,199 --> 00:48:53,079 huge wingspan, he's a connector on offense, he gets the hockey, assists 671 00:48:53,159 --> 00:48:58,079 that whole thing. We saw his defense in the Summer League. It's very 672 00:48:58,119 --> 00:49:02,079 seemingly so far with what we had real he's active in passing lanes, He's 673 00:49:02,159 --> 00:49:07,880 physical like, this is a guy who brings things that I think Tylu likes 674 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,639 as a coach. If he doesn't turn the ball over, he likes to 675 00:49:10,679 --> 00:49:14,360 push the pace like there's a path there. If he has a good training 676 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:19,440 camp and he shows out in the preseason, that he could get a more 677 00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:23,119 tangible role on the team than Brandon Boston Junior has, which is really all 678 00:49:23,159 --> 00:49:30,800 I'm hoping for him. I know Brandon Boston shows some things in an NBA 679 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:35,199 game in the G League, which is more competitive than Summer League, and 680 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,320 he still can't really get in the rotations. What are the chances that Kobe 681 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:46,599 Brown, who hasn't shown an who hasn't played G League yet. I see 682 00:49:46,599 --> 00:49:50,480 what you're saying there. He has a more well rounded game. Yes, 683 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,199 and then the Boston's game is one thing, which is score. If he 684 00:49:54,280 --> 00:50:01,519 can show something at the four, a position of need, mister forty six, 685 00:50:01,639 --> 00:50:06,880 Randon Boston. I'm just saying, if a guy can be that good 686 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,559 at times in the G League and even during a season like last year where 687 00:50:10,639 --> 00:50:15,239 Kauh I missed the entire thing where Paul George only play at thirty one games, 688 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,559 I think, and he still couldn't get minutes. It's gonna be difficult, 689 00:50:19,639 --> 00:50:23,840 Like he's really gonna have to pop in the preseason and showing easy path. 690 00:50:24,119 --> 00:50:29,079 It's not just I think about being versatile and showing he can do all 691 00:50:29,079 --> 00:50:34,159 these things. It's not standing out for the negatives either, Like he just 692 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:38,679 has to be very he has to play beyond his years. He has to 693 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:44,960 show a basketball IQ that doesn't hurt the turnovers. It's limit the fouls and 694 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,239 no turnovers. And his shooting is a little suspect. That's the big that's 695 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,639 his biggest hurdle. He shot so bad his first three years at MISSOI he 696 00:50:52,639 --> 00:50:57,159 shot like twenty three percent, then is from three, then is finally or 697 00:50:57,199 --> 00:51:00,840 he shot like forty percent. So there's this this sustainable right, Like is 698 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:05,840 that real? I don't know, Probably not, would be my guests. 699 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:14,000 Did he shoot at the moving hoops moving around in a Can he shoot a 700 00:51:14,039 --> 00:51:17,199 steel ball underwater? Have we seen him try that? Folks? I'm see 701 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:24,239 with lethal shooter or no. I'm just saying I think obviously for a team 702 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,039 like the Climbers, whos trying to win a championship. He's not gonna get 703 00:51:28,119 --> 00:51:30,239 you know, I just think his role could be bigger than Brandon Boston Juniors 704 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:36,199 because he plays team basketball. He helps connect plays, he can see cuts 705 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,119 well, he's a good you know, back to the basket passer, Like 706 00:51:39,159 --> 00:51:43,679 these are things that this team needs at the four, and if his defense 707 00:51:43,679 --> 00:51:46,239 sticks out, I think that's as big as help its stay has an interesting 708 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:52,000 point too about the Brandon Boston junior comp you know, kind of has to 709 00:51:52,039 --> 00:51:54,800 do with the position that Brandon Junior says it is much more of a log 710 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:59,360 jam at the two and the three for Brandon Boston Junior to happen. We 711 00:51:59,519 --> 00:52:02,880 just a log jam, and it is now that we're walking down sort of 712 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:07,559 this log jam at the flour though. I guess I'm I'm not as convinced 713 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,679 that things are very clear at that position either, which I think here in 714 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,239 a great spot every time we chat. I'm like, man, Clippers are 715 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:20,199 in a pretty good spot. I think that helps Kobe Brown if he so 716 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,639 You've seen we have we have the most known quantities of power forward. Right. 717 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:29,480 We know exactly what Nickportune brings. We know I guess what Marcus Morris 718 00:52:29,519 --> 00:52:32,960 brings now we've seen Robert Covington brings, but the coach has no interest in 719 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,440 that. Kobe Brown has an opportunity. Again, I'm not saying this is 720 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:42,360 a lock. I'm not saying start in game one two, carve out. 721 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,199 Oh, here's a new guy. He's bringing some juice, like he can 722 00:52:45,199 --> 00:52:49,920 play in transition, like this is a fun So yes, I guess realistically, 723 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,239 I guess realistically. My question is to both of you, does he 724 00:52:54,360 --> 00:53:00,480 see more or less playing time than Musa did? Did previously? End this 725 00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:05,480 season? Oh? Did he previously? Uh? Well, I don't think 726 00:53:05,519 --> 00:53:07,679 that. I think he'll see more time than Musa. Let me look at 727 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:13,119 Moosa's numbers last year. But Moose is also crazy raw and plays the five 728 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,559 more between. Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying, for like a 729 00:53:16,599 --> 00:53:23,719 realistic comparison, he helps them win that game, one game eighteen going into 730 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:31,000 the fourth, one more game at this level, that's such a weird What's 731 00:53:31,039 --> 00:53:34,480 that You're saying he only played one game. It's like, well, he 732 00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:37,880 still did its. Musa played one hundred and ninety five minutes last year. 733 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:45,639 I think more. I think DJs agrees with you. Kobe Brown is six 734 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,119 eight, two hundred and fifty pounds pure muscle and speed and athleticism with a 735 00:53:49,199 --> 00:53:52,360 seven two wingspan. He brings everything we need for power forward. Don't start 736 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,679 him, but that means if you still need a starting power forward, Yes, 737 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,559 we do. Could not agree more. I think he gets over one 738 00:53:59,639 --> 00:54:02,119 hundred in ninety five minutes X here if and I'm like, again, does 739 00:54:02,119 --> 00:54:06,920 he get more than four and twenty minutes? Man, I always right on 740 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,119 the number because that will be a very fun episode. Uh no, he 741 00:54:10,199 --> 00:54:13,360 but again, he has to show it in camp. I'm not saying, 742 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,280 give this guy this stuff, like if he is out playing Moosa and these 743 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:20,960 guys, which I think is possible with the way that he has played played 744 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,800 basketball up to this point, it's there. It's there. I do think 745 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:30,000 it's probable. I also think, are we even talking about this if he 746 00:54:30,039 --> 00:54:35,280 doesn't have the thirty five point game with seven threes? Uh? Yeah, 747 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,880 because I don't really give a shit about Summer League. If that's a fair 748 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:45,280 argument. I just wing. But I just needed to do something point shooting, 749 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,719 right. I just said you couldn't try. I didn't just say look 750 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,800 at that game where he put up thirty five with the shooting. I said 751 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,599 it was suspect, So I don't think like I think he needs two hit 752 00:54:55,679 --> 00:55:00,079 shots. If he's going into play like I'm a that has to translate. 753 00:55:00,159 --> 00:55:04,079 I think that's a big part of why they drafted him. If that stuff 754 00:55:04,119 --> 00:55:07,239 doesn't translate at all, I don't see what his role is going to be. 755 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,920 I mean, obviously the shoot needs to be there. Like I'm I'm 756 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:15,320 not saying he can shoot twenty percent from three preseason. If he shoots a 757 00:55:15,559 --> 00:55:21,519 not horrifying amount from three, Let's say he shoots thirty seven percent. I 758 00:55:21,559 --> 00:55:23,679 know it's not John Wall from the corner numbers at him. But let's say 759 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:31,079 he shoots man, we are not dunked on Adam and let's say shoots three. 760 00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:35,559 Service on from three shows some good passing I Q and his defense, 761 00:55:35,679 --> 00:55:39,239 as DJ f Music like points out, is there. He can get more 762 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:44,199 than one hundred and ninety five minutes if he's there, because he showed it 763 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,400 in a league you don't care about the summer league, but his defense is 764 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:51,159 there. What counts in the summer league and what doesn't. Shooting I don't 765 00:55:51,199 --> 00:55:53,440 think counts. I don't think shooting counts. I'm just saying, can we 766 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:58,840 pick and choose what counts it doesn't. I don't know total defense there isn't 767 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,599 because he hasn't played at the be A level. I know that's what we're 768 00:56:00,599 --> 00:56:04,679 gonna see. Why are you so against this idea? Why don't you? 769 00:56:05,039 --> 00:56:07,400 But I'm just good. You're kind of like all over the place. I 770 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:12,639 don't know. I want him to work, but what matters and what does 771 00:56:12,679 --> 00:56:15,039 it? Like? We we don't know what he is yet, is what 772 00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:19,880 I'm saying. Saying, like his defense is there or he can do all 773 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:24,320 this stuff if it's there. I felt like I said, okay, okay, 774 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:29,440 Well let's say he's all trades, he's a jack of all trades, 775 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,360 a multi tool type player. Sure, then I agree with you. You're 776 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:37,519 right, because then he can find some crevice where they need something like if 777 00:56:37,519 --> 00:56:40,480 he if he can help well, I don't want to go pause here, 778 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:49,039 but I didn't say he can find a role somewhere if he can do more 779 00:56:49,079 --> 00:56:52,440 on the court. The more you offer, the more opportunities you're likely going 780 00:56:52,519 --> 00:56:58,639 to get. Yeah, then it makes sense. The problem is do we 781 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:05,159 know one area that he actually can offer yet that for sure he can do. 782 00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:07,960 I feel like you missed the point where I said he has to be 783 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:13,960 really good in training camp in preseason. Okay, I thought that subject matter 784 00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:16,159 was can he break the rotation or can he get in? Well, if 785 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:22,400 the breakdown, the question now is will he get more minutes than Musa? 786 00:57:22,599 --> 00:57:28,440 I think there's a legit shot at that over under three hundred and fifty minutes? 787 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,079 What under that? I don't think he's I thought the question was whether 788 00:57:32,159 --> 00:57:35,519 or not he could help the team this year, not whether or not he 789 00:57:35,519 --> 00:57:40,360 could get more minutes than Musa. Well, things have changed, Okay, 790 00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:47,599 find the crevice. It's evolving question. I think he can show Tyler that 791 00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:52,639 he maybe should play him, and I think the powerful rotation is as of 792 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:57,599 six thirty seven PM on September twentieth, suspect he might have he might have 793 00:57:57,639 --> 00:58:00,760 a little spark. He might have some spark. I love how high you 794 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,440 are on him. That's all I'm gonna say. I mean, I'm not 795 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,079 saying he should take Morris's minutes, but I'm hyped. I'm excited. You're 796 00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:12,960 not not saying that exactly rank him above Morris. But well you also, 797 00:58:13,079 --> 00:58:15,119 I mean you ranked a lot of people. You ranked Will above Morris. 798 00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:21,719 Will said he worked out earlier today. Yeah, that's true. We don't 799 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,360 know about that more. It's the gym one time. Yeah, he's probably 800 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:28,360 better. He's probably. All I'm saying is and this, I guess this 801 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,960 actually might be more of a testament to how bad the power forward rotation is. 802 00:58:34,519 --> 00:58:39,559 It's undefined. There's an opportunity to steal a role. It is undefined, 803 00:58:39,639 --> 00:58:44,480 dude. Is that it's just too unclear? I guess is the thing 804 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,119 that I'm struggling with. It's kind of bad. Dude. They're old and 805 00:58:46,239 --> 00:58:52,039 they're bad at defense, like more more. But Jim is good at defense, 806 00:58:52,079 --> 00:58:54,000 but I don't think you plays starting level minutes of defense for a whole 807 00:58:54,000 --> 00:59:00,880 season. And Morris can't do that, and I guess Robert Covington could, 808 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,639 but they just won't play it. I hope it's as simple as, oh, 809 00:59:05,159 --> 00:59:08,360 kJ Martin is turning into a mini Kenneth for Reid and he just soak 810 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:13,159 up twenty five minutes a night. And there it is. We give that 811 00:59:13,159 --> 00:59:16,679 out, give me that that would be fine? Then then yeah, I'm 812 00:59:16,679 --> 00:59:21,599 fully on board with that. Because we also kJ kJ is almost an unknown 813 00:59:21,679 --> 00:59:25,639 quantity too because of black. We mentioned the ship showing used with their basketball. 814 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,920 So yeah, all right, I think I might take the under on 815 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,719 the one ninety five because we still have to figure out what kJ is gonna 816 00:59:31,719 --> 00:59:38,000 do. I hope I will concede that. I just can't believe we're still 817 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:44,280 it's still this murky with the four positions. I think we all agree on 818 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,760 that it's not fun. Three months ago, we would have said, if 819 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:52,559 anything is more clear by September, it's the four. Yeah, we're set, 820 00:59:52,679 --> 00:59:55,239 dude, we can well yeah, I mean, like I said, 821 00:59:55,599 --> 01:00:00,719 I just thought, like, of all things, even to not acquire new 822 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:07,039 talent just to consolidate the position I think is additioned by subtraction, and we 823 01:00:07,079 --> 01:00:12,760 haven't. We haven't done that. So they tried. They did try. 824 01:00:13,239 --> 01:00:15,800 It is I mean, I do like that that conversation about like the starters, 825 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,559 Like, so we shipped Morris out and we bring in like a Brogden 826 01:00:19,679 --> 01:00:22,880 or whatever, hopefully Turnspanna just start. We'd move Kawai and PG down, 827 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:27,800 but I'm not. I don't know if that happens, I'm not seeing it. 828 01:00:28,199 --> 01:00:31,000 And then we're in an even weirder plays. There's a lot to be 829 01:00:31,079 --> 01:00:35,639 determined, boys, but hey, and that's what makes this podcast so great. 830 01:00:35,679 --> 01:00:37,719 We get a speculated about everything that could happen. We got two weeks 831 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:43,280 old training camp. It's gonna be fine, all right. Some other random 832 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,440 stuff we wanted to talk about. Xavier Moon back on the Exhibit ten deal. 833 01:00:46,679 --> 01:00:52,760 Shout out back, shout out the greatest basketball player in the history of 834 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:57,320 the Canadian Basketball League, the Vibe King. He's looking to compete for the 835 01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,000 Clippers final two way spot. Feel like he's got a pretty good handle on 836 01:01:00,039 --> 01:01:02,679 it. He's playing for the Clippers of the past two years, three years, 837 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:08,159 Like it seems like his spot, right. I root for Moon. 838 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,800 He's one of those guys where I honestly feel like in a different era, 839 01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:19,639 he is a locked in backup point guard for a team that is getting buckets 840 01:01:19,679 --> 01:01:23,000 every night. It is only because he's diminutive. He just doesn't have the 841 01:01:23,079 --> 01:01:29,599 size or a lead athleticism that a lot of guards and point guards have nowadays 842 01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:32,960 where you have to be able to break down the defense and shoot. And 843 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:39,760 the nineties or early he's good. You know, the facial hair. John 844 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:45,320 Lawrence a spot. He's done everything right for this Clippers team. He's been 845 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:50,079 awesome. Yeah, uh so this is kind of a tangent. We've talked 846 01:01:50,079 --> 01:01:52,760 about zoobots growing his hair long try and get more foul calls. What about 847 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:58,719 this keep the hair short, some crazy mutton chops. I kind of like 848 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:04,920 that. Look you're talking to Foo man Zoo, who was the guy who 849 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,719 played the Bikers Arizona. I could see Zoo looking a little bit like that 850 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:15,000 guy, dude, Foo man Zoo. Yeah, l L wtf Eric, 851 01:02:15,079 --> 01:02:17,920 if you're listening, if you're out there, please I need a foo man 852 01:02:19,039 --> 01:02:22,559 Zoo. Please also please support all of Eric puise art. It's so good. 853 01:02:22,559 --> 01:02:25,519 He's given a podcast piece and stuff. It's really cool the show. 854 01:02:27,159 --> 01:02:29,960 Yes, it is done by him. All right. Final thing that I 855 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:36,079 wanted to bring up except for adamson Jo Turtles poster. It is a sickcast 856 01:02:36,079 --> 01:02:38,239 poster. Uh. Last thing I wanted to bring up, and then I 857 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:45,440 promise I'll never talk about it again. The Clippers had the exact same schedule 858 01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:51,519 release video as the Jacksonville University women's basketball team. Who's came first the Clippers 859 01:02:51,519 --> 01:02:57,039 did? But how is it the same? Because so if you watch that, 860 01:02:57,119 --> 01:02:59,360 it's shot for shot the same thing. It's a basketball on the beach. 861 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,400 Where point about? But like if theirs came out first. It's just 862 01:03:02,639 --> 01:03:06,960 clearly done by the same company. And I the only one who cares about 863 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:15,480 this. It's fairifying is it's just uninteresting as a fan, it's uninteresting. 864 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:20,840 I have to imagine we're the only NBA team that had the shot for shot 865 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,360 layout as a college basketball team for their schedule release video. So I care 866 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:29,880 about marketing shit, which I understand not everyone does. But I mean it's 867 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:35,320 a little soulless and I just wish it had more clippers, like just more 868 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,920 uniqueness to it. I I agree, and this is We've talked about this 869 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:43,440 before, but I feel like this is one of the areas where, you 870 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,679 know, the NBA has kind of had a corner on social media as as 871 01:03:46,719 --> 01:03:52,280 far as sports are concerned. Yes, these like season reveal videos, they're 872 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:57,800 getting lapped by the NFL right now, And I would I agree with you. 873 01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,000 I would like to see something a little bit more, a little bit 874 01:04:00,119 --> 01:04:02,079 more panache. I would like to see something with maybe a little bit more 875 01:04:02,239 --> 01:04:06,320 personality. You know. That's That's where I'm at, because it's like the 876 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,559 when I first saw the video, I was like, Okay, kJ Martin 877 01:04:10,639 --> 01:04:14,519 is taking a basketball to chick fil a because they're playing the Nuggets sick. 878 01:04:14,719 --> 01:04:17,119 And then I see the same video from a small college school where they're do 879 01:04:17,239 --> 01:04:20,880 like the same joke, and it's just kind of like, Okay, so 880 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,960 our team didn't really make that. That's fine. Why are you putting this 881 01:04:25,079 --> 01:04:31,119 up? I agree, we've reused shirts in the playoffs? You got what 882 01:04:31,199 --> 01:04:34,480 do you think? So? What's everybody's pitch on? What do you want 883 01:04:34,519 --> 01:04:39,880 the team slogan to be this year? Oh, you got to move task, 884 01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:45,400 give no quarters? That's a great had it was stay stinky or something. 885 01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:50,239 Time to get stinky, Get stinky might have to be the It's like 886 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:55,960 darkwing duck, let's get dangerous, Let's get stinky. So Adam can't really 887 01:04:55,960 --> 01:05:00,719 comment on this because he's paid by the team for a other job. Respects. 888 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:02,239 What about give no dime? We just don't hand out as if we 889 01:05:02,239 --> 01:05:09,760 don't do assists this year? I'll so baby, I think gets stinky. 890 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:15,159 Clippers get stinky, that's what it should be, stinky dude. An arena 891 01:05:15,199 --> 01:05:17,719 showning let's get stinky is a good time you're missing a free throw if you're 892 01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:24,760 if they're shouting let's get stinky. No, So what should the slogan be 893 01:05:26,159 --> 01:05:29,639 it can't be worse than last year. It can't be given no quarter. 894 01:05:29,719 --> 01:05:31,440 What if it's given no hat. No, I'm saying that the slogan should 895 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:36,280 be it can't be worse than last I mean empty the clip would be great, 896 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:40,480 but there's no way they would ever do that. That would be insane. 897 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:45,159 Yeah, I don't know. I'm excited to see. I feel like 898 01:05:45,199 --> 01:05:47,159 every team's got in their city edition leaked except for the Clippers, and the 899 01:05:47,159 --> 01:05:50,920 city edition last year was really sweet. So I'm hoping we get a little 900 01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:54,760 some more of that because that that was nice last year. We got to 901 01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:58,480 give a shoutut to the marketing department for the good people are still wold. 902 01:05:58,559 --> 01:06:00,440 Not hope it's gonna end up being a red Jersey. I don't. I 903 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:08,079 wanted to be four LA Street dogs positioned into an LA That's what I want. 904 01:06:08,719 --> 01:06:11,159 I wanted to be. How would the layout work? What do you 905 01:06:11,199 --> 01:06:14,880 mean one hot dog, two hot dog, three hot dog, four hot 906 01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,400 dogs? Oh okay, you like the dogs? Yeah, we'll have this 907 01:06:17,519 --> 01:06:23,880 like diagrammed earlier or something. What do you mean it's four hot dogs to 908 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:30,599 make LA? What's so hard to understand? A man who knows what's gonna 909 01:06:30,599 --> 01:06:34,400 happen. All right, I think I think we're we've we've given enough content. 910 01:06:35,239 --> 01:06:39,199 Adam doesn't want Kobe Brown to be good? What about is it over? 911 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:44,519 What about? Is it over yet? Dude? Is it? Is 912 01:06:44,519 --> 01:06:51,400 it over yet? Uh? Wake me up one September and gotta hate this. 913 01:06:53,199 --> 01:06:57,719 It's a terrible soul. All right, We're probably gonna be back next 914 01:06:57,719 --> 01:07:00,599 week. We've been reaching out to guess that you DM people on Twitter now 915 01:07:00,679 --> 01:07:03,880 is broken as fuck. No one wants to read your ship, which makes 916 01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:09,719 sense. Will we're so happier back? We need some reviews on the show 917 01:07:09,719 --> 01:07:12,800 on iTunes. If you're listening in the offseason, you probably care enough about 918 01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,159 the Clippers, will leave a review. We'd appreciate it. We'll read it 919 01:07:15,199 --> 01:07:18,079 on there. Also, we're really looking for subscribers over on the YouTube. 920 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,440 Not to plug it too much, but it is YouTube dot com slash at 921 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:26,599 Clippers Podcast. I stand corrected. I try to correct check earlier in the 922 01:07:26,599 --> 01:07:30,639 show. I was wrong. It happens. I'm usually right, Adam, 923 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:36,400 Adam, would you like to say something nice to these fans before we head 924 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,119 out of here? Also, I would like to say, Adam wants Kobe 925 01:07:40,119 --> 01:07:45,119 Brown to succeed. You know, he's pro Kobe Brown. We think. 926 01:07:45,679 --> 01:07:48,039 I love Kobe Brown. I just worry about if he's getting a bunch of 927 01:07:48,039 --> 01:07:53,280 minutes, something may have gone wrong. Yeah, that's not what I'll our 928 01:07:53,320 --> 01:08:03,400 powerful hips this year. This is not true. I actually do put some 929 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:08,239 stock in Summer League and those thirty five points on the way he got them, 930 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:12,199 and that he was still willing to shoot after shooting so poorly from three 931 01:08:12,239 --> 01:08:16,079 and showing that level of confidence. Yeah, so I am high on him. 932 01:08:16,119 --> 01:08:19,159 I just don't I feel like there still has to be a move made 933 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:23,199 if it's going to open up time for him. I will agree with that, 934 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:27,079 which I'd still be all four, just like I was way back in 935 01:08:27,159 --> 01:08:30,359 June of cleaning up the power forward position a little bit and Kobe Brown maybe 936 01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:34,520 getting more minutes because of that and kJ Martin. I still think, as 937 01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:39,159 you mentioned earlier, who knows what he's capable of because he's been playing with 938 01:08:39,199 --> 01:08:42,640 the Houston Rockets, and who knows what he's capable of in a contract year 939 01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,960 for a team with championship expectations, how much he can help? And I 940 01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,560 like my Kenneth Reid comp earlier. By the way, if he could bring 941 01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:55,199 some of that type of hustle to a team because he's not because I mean 942 01:08:55,600 --> 01:09:00,119 he's he hasn't been on a team that actually is playing for something. He 943 01:09:00,239 --> 01:09:04,199 knew going into every year that the Houston Rockets we're not going to make the 944 01:09:04,239 --> 01:09:10,680 playoffs, at least once James Harden asked out. So yeah, speaking up, 945 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,680 Maybe we'll have more on that next week. I don't know who knows. 946 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:15,359 I want to get somebody on from Philly Bad. I thought that would 947 01:09:15,399 --> 01:09:18,920 have been interesting to Philly Podcast. They don't want to get back to us 948 01:09:19,119 --> 01:09:23,000 before we get out. Before we get out of here. Clips or Die 949 01:09:23,239 --> 01:09:25,840 has a great comment, we should bring some fans on the show. Discord 950 01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,079 or something takes some calls. We'll definitely look into getting that set up in 951 01:09:29,119 --> 01:09:31,359 the off season. But or you know, sometimes see now in the start 952 01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:36,239 of the season. So yes, we're super into that. Follow us over 953 01:09:36,279 --> 01:09:40,960 at Clippers pod Guy to the show. Check us out on YouTube if you 954 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,560 want to be involved in that. Yeah, look out for the Google voice 955 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,840 number. That's always a fun thing taking voicemails and whatnot for that. We 956 01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:50,800 will be back next week and as always, let's go clips in ducks. 957 01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:55,359 No, I guess.