What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to season two, episode eleven
of Clips and Dip. We're part of the two win three Empire. I
am Chuck Mockler, joined by Adam Oslind and William Updike. We talked the
clips three times a week during the season, around once a week during the
offseason. You know, we're all very busy and nothing's really happening. Before
we kind of get into the main stuff, we're gonna be talking the Clippers
power forwards heading into training camp. They'll seem pretty solidified. Then later we're
gonna kind of talk about if Kobe Brown could be a contributor. I've been
watching a bunch of his highlights, probably too much, and I might be
too hyped up on what he can bring to the Clippers. And then the
Buddy Healed news that came out earlier today. The Pacers are looking to trade
him because they couldn't have got an extension, So of course we have to
talk about that. But first, will how the hell are you? Buddy?
Back on the show. You're refreshed, Adam, I hold this thing
up without you. No thumbnails on the YouTube videos. It's been a nightmare.
Classic, classic, classic, nicknames. Either, let's get it going.
Oh our first, let's see first message here from a tube at Clippers
podcast on YouTube. Dj F Music Production says, get rid of Morris keep
with two. Sure, yeah, we'll talk some problem with that. We'll
talk some more power forwards in this. We have a pretty strict rundown about
these things. He's pretty pretty heavily scripted. In case you couldn't. You
can't tell, but we will definitely get into that, you know, common
opinion in old clipper clipper dumb. Before we get back to that or get
to that, Adam, let's talk your big yellow hat. This is a
new look for those of you not watching. Are you a Ducks fan?
I went over college where they think it's funny to say, hey, we're
undefeated since nineteen twenty because we never had a football team at Biola University,
so I was kind of a free agent. A few of my buddies went
to Oregon, and I like the Pacific Northwest. I visited there once and
the people, what once does it for you? They sold me on it.
But you know, I love the old Huey, Dewey and Louis characters
from Disney and the original one because they were all primary colors. It was
red, blue, and yellow, and so the yellow really stuck out to
me and spoke to me, and so I was like, you know what,
Organ's kind of awesome. And speaking of Disney, they used to have
the freaking Donald Duck as their mascot before I think they just severed ties and
now his name is Puddles Disney. Well, if someone sends in some weird
looking Oregon Ducks apparel, Adam will wear its top. I wear anything that's
somewhat I guess revealing and also non offensive. And yeah, and we deem
what is use discretion there? I was wondering who was gonna say something about
Dylan Brooks. It's to Mezarlimarrazarli in the chat, thank you for watching Tomara,
fantastic Clippers journalist. You're a fan of Aaron Brooks with the that's fair
shout out Seattle. All right, let's get into ranking the Clippers power forwards
heading into training camp, which is not a very fun. We're not gonna
lead with the buddy stuff. We can lead. Do you want to talk,
buddy, Let's talk, buddy. We're getting type fun buddy, We're
getting some buddy talk in the chat. Let's do it. See if I
had said that, Chuck would have just accosted me for not looking at the
rundown that segment to Animal's roll with you will say it with a drink and
you're cool with it. You don't look at the rundown. Adams like,
what are we talking about? We'll not look at the rundown and look at
it. We just mentioned the Buddy trade in the headline of this video,
So yeah, sorry, We're getting really in the weeds here, Chuck.
Why don't you break this down for us? What what's going on right now
with our friend or I feel like he comes up a lot in Clipper's conversation.
What's going on with our good old friend Buddy Healed and the Indiana Pacers.
He is being made available for a trade. It seems amicable. They
can't really figure out this whole extension thing, and now he's available for trade.
That's what we know. I asked. We asked Clippers fans over on
Clippers Twitter trade for Buddy Heald or no. Fifty two of the one hundred
or so votes said no. Someone said we have too many guards. But
this was also someone i'd seen talk about that we should trade for Harden.
So I'm not really sure we're there thinking there. But Adam, since it
looks like you got the rundown open, where do you feel like? Where
are you on the spectrum of does this interest you at all? Does Buddy
Healed? Would that move the needle for you? He's making nineteen mill this
year and then he has two more years on his contract. For the money
heads out there, it depends perhaps that person that was saying we have too
many guards guards is just expecting James Harden to be one of them. In
that case, obviously Buddy Healed isn't much of an option, but he wants
to be paid after this season. So if you're taking him in as a
rental to help boost up the roster and the shooting overall this year, just
for this year, and then it depends on who you're giving up, I
think it's something to look at. But he is very one dimensional. He's
a great three point shooter. I just saw this tweet where you can make
the argument of high volume three point shooters. He's near Steph in that area.
He the last six seasons is the only other player outside of Steph and
his illustrious, greatest shooter of all time career that has taken at least eight
three pointers per game and a shot over forty percent on those threes. So
it's not just like with Luke Kennard, it was more about, Okay,
he's only taking four of them or whatever it was. But he was absolutely
deadly and lethal from beyond the arc. But yeah, he wouldn't shoot him
at times. He would get reprimanded for that by coach Leu. Buddy Healed
has no problem getting them up. He's been doing it back to his days
with Oklahoma when people said it is he the next STEPH Curry. That's not
the case. The rest of the game has never materialized like that. But
he is unbelievable as an off guard, spot up shooter. The problem is
defensively, I'm looking at his rating overall and it's one fifteen. Now he's
been on bad defensive teams. It's hard to kind of separate defensive rating and
parcel it out for an individual defender. But yeah, I also have watched
him a little bit being from Sacramento, and he was, you know,
a star coming out of Oklahoma and a star in the tournament, and I
believe ended up losing to the Oregon Ducks. Was it? I think so,
no idea. I think that's what happened, But they went to the
Final four that year that to go through Oklahoma. But he is a liability
on that end in the same way that Luke Kennard was. So if you're
trying to find guys that don't have a lot of holes in their games that
don't hurt you on one end, Buddy healed, isn't that He's someone where
if everybody else is good defensively out there on the floor, they're still going
to try to pick on him, match up hunt him. So that can
be problematic for this Clippers team, But it really just depends on what you
would give up for him. If you're playing it out like, hey,
he's a rental for eighteen million dollars and we're not giving up much, Well,
yeah, I think that is someone that could help this Clippers team right
away this season because yeah, because the number is kind of weird, right,
he's at nineteen mill, which if you're the Clippers, I mean,
hey, we could do norm for Buddy straight up, but that doesn't really
do anything right, Like, I don't think either team is really hype with
that. I don't think that. Yeah, speaking of the number, that
nineteen number tomare in the chat spicy as Charles said, breaks up an interesting
point in that training loot to acquired by eight months later, you're paying more
money for an older player that would essentially I mean, I mean be the
same like right, It's the only difference is it's expiring. Luke's still under
contract for what fifteen sixteen, So I mean in terms of fit, like,
I don't really see the fit necessarily. I do see if you're looking
to the future, you're looking to make a big swing in the off season,
which you will be by next offseason. It's already too late, I
feel like, kind of because you're you're kind of hard capped with the you
know, the second apron Wolves and everything that goes into that. But if
you are trying to make a salary dumping move, that's kind of all that
I really see is like a long term play because the fall off to me
from norm to buddy health, you know, notwithstanding orwithstanding whichever whichever, I
don't really see it as an upgrade on the roster, and I don't super
see the fit anyway. It's definitely an overall much better player. Yeah,
I mean everything that he brings offensively. No, he's not a great playmaker
just like Buddy Healed, but he can score on three levels. Buddy Healed
is one that's just a great elite sniper on the outside when Norm doesn't do
the foul baiting as much. Yeah, I think we all like his game
more. But it has worked recently, which has been great. I saw
some people on Twitter really kind of shooting for the moon, which would be
a trade to get Buddy and Miles Turner, which would be like the biggest
of all swings. Again, another name that Clippers fans love to hope for
to be on the team, Miles Turner. He did get thirty one and
twenty nine dropped on him by Evita Zoobots, which was pretty cool to watch.
But that seems like a pipe dream. I think doing that big of
a of a swing, I don't think you're you're getting rid of Zoo to
bring like that. That money seems big. That's a seismic shift I think
in the Clippers roster. If bringing those two guys to make the money work
well, and they finally kind of committed to him, they gave him the
two year extension. Now they could still trade him. It's a tradable contract.
I don't know what stipulations are when they could make that move, but
it seems like they like Miles Turner more than people thought, because for some
time it was thought that he was the John Collins, that it was just
inevitable that he was going to get moved eventually, and it was inevitable that
he was a hashtag future Laker, as many Lakers fans thought, and Buddy
healed though, those rumors are absolutely going to start out, Yeah, no
doubt. Although they've done a great job already this off season. I don't
know if they need much more. They brought in Gabe Benson, so I
won't compliment that team. That seems like something you feel very comfortable doing at
him, so you can compliment. Well, yeah, when everybody else was
saying they suck on this podcast and I was like, actually, guys,
they got way better at the trade deadline. There are a problem, and
then they got to the Western Commerce Finals. So I'm just pointing out the
obvious. I don't know, I'm not phrasing them. I don't want them
to win, like ignoring ignoring fit, Like it just depends on how low
the asking price is, right, Like if you're shipping out another expiring say
Marcus Morris, and you're you're making those salaries work and you have another expiring
asset, Buddy, he'll, as I said, not young, still only
thirty on an expiring deal. Like maybe that's a little bit of of a
sweeter trade chip if you look to make another move later. But like from
a purely fit perspective, I guess I don't really see the need. I
don't really see the need for that player. We have as good of shooters
who can do more and you know, present the same liabilities, obviously defensively.
But yeah, I don't know, man, I'm this one. It
doesn't have me. It doesn't have me that tantalized if I'm being perfectly Yeah,
put the Tomaer comment up if you don't mind, will he says?
How far is Indie from Philly? Ass and for a friend? That's been
a popular theme since this news broke two As you work a three teamer that
sends Buddy to Philly and then he who apparently cannot be named on this podcast
anymore, gets over to the Clippers. My thing. My thing is with
this, We've talked about my opinions on this trade, and I think for
the spot that Philly is in, I don't really know unless like the unless
it's beyond repair the relationship or situation. Do you the Clippers really have enough
to sweeten that deal to make that happen, even with their best offer.
And let's say somehow now Buddy Healed is involved, if Norm Powell wasn't moving
the needle for Philly, like, I don't really know how that sweetens the
pot necessarily? Why is it turned into player that has to remain nameless,
like it's the village things. You guys did a moratorium on this, made
made this rule. People got mad we were talking about him too much.
Some people get mad we're talking about it is PJ. Tucker. I just
say this, the fact that that report is out there from Brian Wynhorse saying
that the Clippers, what was the exact verbage? So that was a goofy
aggregator issue. He clarified those and he kind of basically said, like it's
not like there wasn't column off. It was like a fur now thing,
like the trade talks just kind of fizzled then Zach Lowe also said, like
he expects them to pick back up at another point, so it feels like
we're still just in the mud. Isn't that also a negotiating tactic, like
Hey, I'm not buying the car for this price, and I'll walk away
right now if you don't lower it. I mean right, That's what happens
during these things us. We still don't know how bad it's going to get
at training camp or at media day. If James Harden is still on the
Philadelphia seventy six ers, that changes everything. Yeah, training camps in like
two and a half weeks something like that. Like you're not watching us on
at Clippers podcast on YouTube, you're missing some fantastic nicknames. So we're so
we're out on the Buddy Healed trade. We're not really sure how the three
teamer works any differently than a two teamer would, because it's not like the
Clippers wouldn't have to give up assets and the one person everyone wants traded as
Marcus Morris. So I understand Clippers fans frustrations of wine to trade Marcus Morris.
Why would unless you can get indied to take Tucker and Philly is more
interested in Morris perhaps and the like, you know, it kind of makes
my head hurt. If I'm being perfectly honest, I've had a couple of
weeks off. My head hurts. Plus, the Pacers can actually make a
little bit of noise. I think they could be in contention for maybe a
six or seven seed, just getting right outside the play in tournament this year.
Haliburton is that good, and I mean they're not in the contender here,
but I feel like he is a little shaky right now, just like
Hunt here either, like yeah, just you know, just with some of
the stuff going on New Fit in Boston, whatever the hell happens in Philly.
Uh, you know, like you know, there is some there is
some maneuvering. Not that they would be a contender, but I mean,
like it's not insane to think that they would could snag a playoff spot.
Yeah, you know, an underdog run or something like that. I mean
the playoffs. I feel like, what more you want right now here?
Eastern Conference finals? No, I don't know, I'm not a Pacers fan.
He just has more value than Oh you could just offer them Marcus Morris
and maybe they'll take it, because they have to get rid of this player
right now. I don't think that's the case. Some team will at least
package maybe a first round pick or a couple of second round picks to get
Buddy Healed. Whole counterpoint, though, Carlisle remembers the way Morris did Luca.
He was like, that's the guy that I want. That's the guy
that I want. Straight up, I'll trade and other teams know that the
Clippers are. I don't know if desperate is the adjective I would use right
now, but have already tried to thirsty. I would say, yeah,
they've already had a trade in place. Once other teams are like, oh
really, you just want to give us him? Like, it's not going
to be easy for the Clippers to trade Marcus Morris. And even without Luke
Kennard, the Clippers don't lack three point shooting, but he fields greatest strength.
Isn't something that this team is in desperate need of? Right? Yeah,
that's a really good call. Is he a good vibes guy? Feels
like he's a good vibes guy. Seems like it. There have been some
I think some issues here and there with Sacramento when he was traded with the
Pelicans and all that. I don't know. I don't know it's temperament exactly.
Adam doesn't know his temperament well. But more importantly, into that fit
doesn't make a ton of sense unless you're giving up a lot, which I
don't know why Indiana would take. I don't see this happening anytime soon.
That's a good call. Well, I'm sure we'll see some point again from
Tom? Should can? Should we just send Tom the link to come on
the show. We know he's not doing shit if he's watching our show.
Yeah, I almost feel bad, like, yeah, wait, let me
invite it. He's getting really thirsty right now. He's sending all these an
invite. He said, Buddy is available. Though health does matter. Health
does matter for this team we've talked about at NAZI. We need to take
the regular season more seriously and all that good stuff. We need healthy guys
like I guess this makes sense. Okay, Tom is being shy. He
does not want to come on the show. He says, can't I just
support from afar. I was about to send him an email with the link
in the subject line join the show cowards, But yes, you get support
from a farm. We appreciate it him. We appreciate you, Tamaric.
Everyone's it also support Tomere's work that he does for the Clippers. All the
beat writers are fantastic. Tomyre's one of those fantastic beat writers. He does
some of the best articles sports well. One reason it would be great to
have him on is because the article he wrote regarding the new load management rules
in the NBA and how he made sure everybody knew Yeah, guys, that
doesn't really apply to the Clippers because they were never listed as resting last year,
Paul George, So it's much ado about nothing. I saved my brothers.
However much they were gonna bet because they you know, if you're a
Clippers fan, people send you things giving you shit about the Clippers and they're
like, oh, like, did you see that the Clippers were the betting
favorite to be the first team to receive, you know, the punishment for
this. And I was like, they won't be they live it, like,
even if you took all of last year and had this role, they
wouldn't be punished for this. Fred Rogan brought me on earlier today on AM
five seventy to talk about it and the first thing was like, so,
how much is this going to affect the Clippers? That was immediately like actually
not at all. Literally no. I was kind of ad about it,
like hell yeah, oh is Uh were they the ones who are telling us
we need to talk about more actual dips on the show? Uh? No,
that was Petros and money. Okay, we've got I came back and
then said, well, your name is an hour about dips right now,
I will derail. Listen. All right, let's do an AD break,
Let's talk about power forwards. Then let's talk about dips. Tomyer, if
you want to come on and talk about dips, the invite is there.
Coming up. We're gonna be ranking the Clippers power forwards and then kind of
where that position group ranks within the Clippers itself. But first we have some
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and then we are talking power forwards in three two one. All right,
so we're back in and we're talking about the Clippers Power Forwards training camp
starting less than a month. A lot of contention around this position. Actually,
to lead in with the comment because we've talked on this podcast before about
you know, where where is Marcus Morris? Is he officially out of the
starting lineup? Who knows how that's going. But we got a comment that
said, I don't care if we're desperate enough to add a first just to
move Morris for buddy. I think though, I think it that applies for
a lot of fans to Morris in general. I feel like this is the
biggest elephant in the room. Right he was, Oh yeah, he was
already on the trade block. It seemed like things were moving there. I
think that we got to start with the odd man out. Where do you
guys see Marcus Morris is he? I mean, at this point, it
seems pretty clear he is coming into training camp. Is he going to be
back in the starting lineup for your twenty three twenty four Los Angeles Clippers.
I don't see, excuse me, how you can do you know what happened
at the at the end of last season with Morris and him not getting playing
time. There was a lot of stuff flying around about why he was not
getting playing time if the red you know, the illness stuff and all that
thing. I don't see how you can bring him back to start after how
the season kind of ended with that, and because on threads he said bum
ass Clippers. Okay, Well, to be fair, I means agree,
I think Morris bro that is damn I should change Damn. That's a really
good Can't both sides be wrong though in in situations sometimes absolutely, the level
of trolling and going after his family and all of that was beyond the pale
and ridiculous. Also, calling people bumb ass Clippers fans probably isn't the best
way to handle it. And his defense, he said on threats he didn't
tweet it. Yeah, I think I think that the fan thing and the
threads thing is a little bit like irrelevant, you boy, Greg says,
knowing that the Clippers tried to trade him, if he's still in the team
by training camp, how does that affect the team so regardless of whether he's
in the starting lineup or not. Look, I mean, we've kind of
heard mixed things about Morris. It seems like he is at times a good
locker room guy. It seems like at times not He's not the kind of
guy that I want sewing discontent like a vet who's been on this team,
you know, longer than like it has a lot of seemingly has a lot
of pulling here. I don't know if that's a guy, and I don't
know what the conversations have been, but assuming that he is on the team
in training camp and coming in the open season, regardless of where he sits
on the roster spot, there has to be something done to both clarify his
role and to smooth over whatever sort of ill will kind of kind of happen
there. Assuming that he is still on the team, which at this point
on September twentieth, I am assuming he is going to be on this team
in training camp and likely for the season opening, which I don't see.
I put this one comment on that Carter Kian just said, which I think
is an interesting point. He's I think Tie will want him here if he's
on the team. Adam, I'm sorry, I cut your greed. Do
you have thoughts on that? That seems like a very won him in the
starting lineup? No, just they're not line up like one him around.
I think on the team he's around, So what does that mean. I
think that's a good point though, because I do think that they have a
relationship and regardless of where he stands in the starting lineup, which I think
we're on agreement. Hopefully opening night he's not in the starting lineup, But
I do think that the relationship that they've been like that they've had thus far
would indicate to me that that is probably the best if they're if things are
to be smoothed over, that's probably like, you know, the light at
the end of the time, or the best thing is that they do have
this sort of relationship. And I will not elaborate any further. Thank you,
don't be a weird ass. Yeah, if he is around, I'm
guessing there was some conversation had, whether it's about his playing time and his
role coming into this season and expectations with coach lou whether it's him and teammates
who do all seem to like him. And I think parlor reason that he
was starting was because Kauai and Paul George feel comfortable with him out there,
whether or not you believe he's still a floor spacer or was the second half
of the season. I think parlor reason he was out there is because they
think he can create for himself and get buckets and it's nice to have that
option and he helps give them more room to operate. I just have to
think after the way things ended last year, there's going to be some type
of dialogue behind the scenes with Marcus Morris and what's going to be his role
moving forward. Maybe they've been talking so much about it. Tyler ran out
of minutes. That's why he hasn't talked to Robert. At the end of
the season, I ran out a minute not of him rolled over. So
I feel like that transition is pretty naturally, Like naturally, let's talk a
little bit about Robert Cummington, Like where do you guys see him at?
Do you think things are going to be better than last season? I will
say from a pr perspective, we haven't seen a lot of Robert Cummington offseason
content from the Clippers account. What did he like seven one hundred minutes?
Don't know what to make of that. I think he played around seven hundred
minutes, which is some say, you know, maybe he deserved more minutes.
It's a gentleman's eight hundred. He was minutes played. Last season.
He was ninth in minutes played behind a guy who was traded in Reggie Jackson.
By about okay, Well, they don't play the same position. I
feel like that's not a fair he was he was under eight hundred. I
don't know what's going to happen with Roco. We This is somehow a guy
who had a really great, you know, first stint with the Clippers.
It was fantastic, obviously some abnormal shooting splits for some of it, and
then the second chapter was terrible and now we're just kind of at square one
again. It almost feels like with Rowco is that no one knows is he
gonna get playing time? I don't know, based on the playoffs or how
the season ended, probably not right Like I just feel like last season could
turn out to be an aberration in the way minutes were allocated, given by
stuff that the front office talked about, given with treating the regular season more
seriously, given more defined roles. Coming into this year where you don't have
three guards and John Wall and Luke Kennard and Reggie Jackson who are all lying
for minutes, I just think it's going to be different around this team,
and Rowco could benefit from that because the schedule's too tough. I don't see
how they can't play him more. He ended up at seven hundred and seventy
nine minutes. Marcus Morris played more than twice as any minutes than that.
He was fourth on the team in minutes played. Nicholas batoum over twice as
many minutes than that. He's a year older. Now, how do you
get buy in the regular season with a team that's older. Well, you
gotta platoon guys a little bit more. You have to save legs by using
if you still have all these power forwards, if you still have freeze and
fours and wings that can play out there, just divvy up the minutes a
little bit more to keep legs fresh. But I think I feel like we
said all this last year too, like that that's what I guess, but
we didn't have three guards that I just mentioned where they try to make it
work with three guard lineups and four guard lineups. But I just hope it
happens. I mean, with the more a situation definitely makes me more excited
about Rocco's playing time, right, Like, it seems like this is an
inroad even if he's still on the team when camp starts, that Rocos should
get more minutes because after we don't like Morris, Rocco and Batum where the
power forwards basically last year, that's who played power forward last year. I'm
kind of curious, to be nice, like, if that's our whole core
plus kJ Martin going to the next year, which I want to talk a
little bit more about kJ Martin here in a second. I'm just curious,
though, your guys thoughts on this. So I know that there's been a
lot of disappointment from fans about this Clippers off season, you know, moves
not moves made. You know, I feel like last season maybe we didn't
give enough credit to how many things they were still kind of fucking around with,
like for lack of a better term, like in terms of you know,
making the John Wall thing work and then you know later bringing in Westbrook.
Could there be a benefit to like, let's say, you know,
things stand where they do right now and nothing happens on the Philadelphia front,
there's no additional guards brought in. Could that be a benefit and actually bringing
some more clarity to the wing rotation, which I do think, you know,
aside from all the issues the Clippers had last season, what's questionable at
times, Yeah, it's questionable right now, Like it's a questionable power forward
core we have right now the fact that none of these guys have been moved,
and in fact, they brought in two more players you could say that
could possibly play the four in Kobe Brown and kJ Martine. That really could
create havoc at the position. I just don't see the log jam right now.
It was guard last year, it happened at power forward this year.
I just don't see any scenario where Marcus Morris is fourth and minutes this year
after a three month stretch at the end of last season where he shot around
thirty percent from three. Because the difference is when he got off to a
slow start last year, it was, Hey, this happens with him.
Sometimes older legs, he settles in, he finds his shooting stroke. But
instead this time it fell off a cliff. The last three months of the
season, you got a pretty big sample size of a player looking to just
age drastically and not be the guy that he used to be at all for
a three month sample. That's that's the difference to me, Like you,
you know who he was at the end of last year. He drove his
Rascal scooter off a cliff. Is how I would describe Marcus Morris. Uh
final close to the season, the names are getting insane again. If you're
if you're just lessening, you need to watch this on YouTube at Clippers or
excuse me, YouTube dot com Slash at Clippers podcast. So how to mention
though, Also you have all these power forwards and last year it was well
they might play Roco at center because they don't have a Mason Plumley coming into
the year like they do this time, Like where do they fit in when
Plumbley is also there? You actually have a backup five. So this is
what I kind of wanted to talk about, was like, how do we
rank our current power forward core of known quantities because we talked about Kobe Brown,
who were going to kind of close the shot with a little bit.
But our power forwards Marcus Morris played eighty one percent of his minutes of power
forward, Rocco seventy three percent of his limited minutes, but Tomb sixty percent
of his minutes of power forward, the other forty percent at center, which
is I can't imagine that's going to happen again next year. And then the
next highest was pg with twenty six, so I'm not really going to count
him as a power forward. kJ Martin is really interesting. In twenty twenty
one, he played seventy six percent of his minutes at power forward. In
twenty twenty two thirteen percent for the Rockets. We got to assume the Clippers
are going to pay him at power forward. I think, so where how
do we rank Marcus Morris, Robert Comington, Nick Batoum, and kJ Martin,
So the Clippers power forwards, Like, I don't want to start it
out there. I guess I want to start with kJ Martin, And yeah,
I don't foresee him in the starting lineup, but I do think you
know those three four minutes, as in regards to his previous seasons, how
it shakes out with the Clippers is gonna be how much time he spends on
floor with one or both of Paul and Kawhi, Like, I think,
I think that's absolutely gonna happen. And it's like chaos in Houston, So
I think that is also a legitimate factor to throw in as it is no,
okay, Houston is a terrible franchise right. As for like, who
I want to see like the in the starting role. I mean, I
think he got to give Robert Covington a shot. I feel like, why
not who doesn't like to start? And that was his message last year.
He doesn't like to start was some of that because he didn't want to step
on Marcus Morris's toes, and that was a way to make sure Marcus was
still starting, and there was that pecking order there. I don't know,
No one can know that. There was some chatter. I will say there
was some chatter that Nico, uh, pace wise, there was some maybe
some issues was starting with Westbrook too, which was some stuff last year.
There was a little bit of chatter about that. Just so not that that
nine Nico was like it's bad. He just like I think he understood that
maybe he wasn't as couldn't really play at that pace sometimes that Westbrook wanted to
and he likes to let the game come to him, you know, off
the bench, because that's how he could be effective. Well. And then
it comes to what was the real reason that Robert Covington wasn't playing last season?
Was it something that we couldn't identify some advanced numbers out there and what
they didn't want him a new stat to fall into. Well, we had
the Marcus Morris stat from Justin Rousseau. What it's said about rebounding percentage as
a team when he was out there on the floor, I don't know if
there was something lingering out there from Robert Covington and something we didn't know.
Obviously started off very slow from beyond the arc, but he ended up shooting
thirty nine percent from three, so he caught fire by the end of the
season. Granted still in limited minutes. But sometimes when a guy doesn't play,
it has something to do with practice and what the coach is seeing there
and not fitting. And that's only something they would know internally. I don't
know, but for a vet that you know that has this body of work
and what he can bring to a team to not be playing, it's just
really curious that nobody's really had a beat on it, and even this offseason
with him saying he and coach Lew hasn't taught. I don't know if you
want to read into that or not, but it doesn't seem like there's I
was just making a joke when I brought that up earlier. I don't want
to read into that. I think that not talking to to your co worker
when you're not at work is normal. The one thing I think about with
Robert Covington, is him being a good soldier and not making a stink about
not playing maybe worked against him. Remember when it came I'm not saying that
Robert to bang his hands on the table and kick his feet and say I'm
being stinky. But if the rumors are true that you have one guy and
Marcus Morris, who will make noise about not playing, and then you have
someone like Robert Covington who will fall in line and be okay with whatever role
he has given, maybe you lean towards playing Marcus Morris because of that,
or just because you trust him more. He's been with the team more,
you have a relationships stinky, Okay, I'm just I'm pontificating, just throwing
out some conjecture of what the reasoning could be behind Robert Covington not playing much
last season and then what's going to change, what's going to change this year.
I think he sends bad memes to the team group chat. I think
he said shitty memes. I think he sends bad memes and it's good.
They're not good. These are okay, they're only getting right. I think
the thing with Morris is I love it Garlic that's it. The thing for
me is I don't want to see between thrust Back in the starting lineup.
There's nothing to do with ability. Has to do for me more with the
way in which he's utilized what he's asked to do his age. We know
his plans at this point. You know, he's not looking for another contract
after this. This is likely the last hurrah. I would love to get
him at his most effective, which I think at this point in his career
is not necessarily in the story line up. And that's not a knock on
him. I think, you know, if physically he was there, if
longevity wise, that was the best decision, you know, I would trust
the team to make that. But I think from what we've seen, I
think that he's better in sort of a bench role, in sort of like
you know, break in case of emergency, not even of emergency, because
he's gonna be used a lot. But you know what I'm saying. So
now this comes back to the point we're trying to rank the power forwards for
the Clippers. We don't want Marcus Morris to start. We maybe don't think
Robert Covington should be the starter either. I never said that. I never
said that, but I think that pains the pick stinky. I think that
pains a picture of how messy this Clippers power Forward. That's the Clippers,
baby, It's not good. Never would have foreseen if we go back to
end of May or early June. One of the things we talked about is,
oh, of course the power forward position is going to be cleaned up.
We said, at this point, we probably have a much better idea
of who's going to be starting at power Forward because somebody would have been moved.
Idea that has not transpired at all. They tried to make it happen
with Marcus Morris. We can read Tea Leaves that way that he's the odd
man out because they tried to trade him. I don't think it's reading Tea
Leaves. I think you're reading a book at that point that says the Clippers
tried to trade this guy and then it didn't. It fell through. It's
reading a tweet from Woades that said he was traded. Well, I guess
my thing is is coming into this offseason. You know, we talked about
this on the podcast. We talked about this multiple times, even in the
absence of acquiring some new great talent right like some some top tier or second
tier talent. I thought the clickers were in firm need of a reconsolidation,
right. Uh. And and and the wing position, I feel like most
glaring Uh, that hasn't happened. Sort of the opposite has happened. We've
we've sort of thrown another hat into the ring. Uh, you know with
Martin and I I don't know. Yeah, Like I said, I hope
that, you know, assuming nothing changes from from where we are right now
with the guard position, that this is something that they can focus a little
bit more on. But also I'm also curious too if this season, you
know, knowing where so many of our players at, knowing where the you
know, the age of the teams, that, assuming that we don't acquire
any new talent, how does the sample size change for ty Lou this season?
Like instead of and we've seen we've seen we've seen like ten games sample
sizes, We've seen things that are maybe a little too much leeway, Like
is this the season, especially at this power forward position, especially like at
a spot where I would say group on the Clippers, group on the Clippers,
or or do we just finally shift Paul George and Kauai down a position,
because then where how does that change your power Forward rankings? Because then
it's very clear to me it's one. But he's like, that's what.
So you're totally like that is the path to making this a much better scenario.
You spread out Kauai's kind of positional percentages basically, but that also,
we would hope means, oh, Terrence man is starting next to Russell Westbrook?
Maybe right, I mean that would be time getting moved. Who's the
most likely option a throw that? So co I played nine percent of his
minutes at power forward next year or last excuse me, nine percent? Chuck
see in the future over here, I hope not what how much? Yeah?
Because Marcus Morris was fourth in minutes, right, So I mean that's
a good point. Clips are die brings up a good point in the comments
we can't spend the first half of the season figuring things out this year and
take so much very good point. I will say, I hope we have
things figured out by March, because we play seventeen games them. I think
with the starting lineup especially, I do think there's room to play with matchups
and and try to figure out, you know what you do in the non
like George and Kwim, but like, we gotta we gotta have something more
ironed out as to what that approach is going to be and how those substitutions
are going to work. And I gotta be honest with you, like despite
not I mean, other than Martin not really having you know, a lot
of new talent. We haven't talked about your boy yet, Charles. Sorry,
I apologize for that. We'll get it. I'm not feeling like there's
a lot of clarity there on how that's going to shake out. I don't
want to hear that there's this long runway to start the regular season, because
just because the easiest part of their season starts at the beginning doesn't give you
leeway to tinker much and figure things out because it gets so much more difficult
just three weeks later. It turns into a gauntlet. So to your point,
if a runway, I want a Harrier jet one that takes off like
a helicopter turn off. I'm getting so heated. Yeah, we're the volleyball
seen in Top Gun. Now. The Clippers airport is one of those scary
ones you see on Discovery Channel where it's like this runway is twenty is two
hundred feet long or like something. All right, well, let's we kind
of got off on a tangent here. Rank your power Forward, Chuck,
I kick it to you. Go ranking my power forwards. In terms of
taking everything into account, not just who I want to see play, I
would go, uh, Nico Roco Morris, and then kJ is an unknown
quantity, So I guess I'll go Nico Roco, kJ Morris for what I
think if that's like the depth right like that, that's how I maybe see
it. I'm going Kawai. Sure, I'm not Matt. I want that
to happen. I was going off last year stuff. I would love Kawai
to play before I'm going Kawai Roko, kJ Morris. What about PG?
PG did play a quarter of his minutes at Power Forward. No, I
don't see it. I don't see it. It's been pretty good. I'm
blind, it's been really good. Can't see it. All right, he's
at the four. He's at the four, so there's three other guards out
there. Is that what you tell me? Yeah, that's pretty good.
But up at the three PG at the four, he got Terrence at the
two, Russ at the one Zoo at the five Adam's dream. I'm going
Nico Roco kJ Terrence a mirror, All right, Okay, nothing. Both
those guys have played the four plenty the last two years. Plenty? How
many? What's your plenty percentage for the amount of minutes Terrence played at the
four last year? I don't care. What about the year before when it
was more necessary? All right, Terence has played six positions. It was
four percent last year. Let's look it at the previous. That doesn't mean
I can't have it be more or say that he's better than other players that
have played it. I've just given If he goes off the percentage he plays
it, then Marcus Moore, I guess, should be number one, right
because he gave the highest percentage of the four, not at all. He
played twenty percent the year before. I'm giving you a con Wait, so
where's Morris and your ranks again? Adam? He's at the list him,
he's at the He's he's not available, he's end slash. I got plumbly,
all right, I will When Adam gets spiteful and negative, it is
so funny. He's not spiteful. Guys, Look at how we shot the
last three months, he was legitimately one of the worst players in the NBA.
Well, a mere has some other things that are actually very serious talking
about. So I'm not sure what his season with the Clippers. Guy,
I want Marcus Marcus Morris to thrive and be great, but he wasn't for
three months, and he's getting older, and they tried to trade him.
They did not wrong. What's three months in an entire career? Though,
you know, it's more he is now for me for me also, Yeah,
Morris is kind of at the bottom of the pecking order. He's at
the bottom of everyone's pecking order. Yeah, there's no one fans can't agree
on anything other than the fact that Marcus Morris should not play Power Forward next
year. It's not about spiteful, It's about results. That's all I care
about. You seem upset about the thread. He said, you're bringing up
a lot. No, I'm upset about the four percent with terrorists. Man
like he can't play f and power Forward he can. The proverbial bumb ass
Clipper fan. Yeah, oh, we're gonna talk about all right. We
gotta cut to ads again because we gotta keep the couple of lights we have
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Oh wait, I think I can see one in the reflection of his sick
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say, the post looks a little crooked, no disrespect. Coming up,
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up, still, we'll talk about Moon. There was some news that was
made a little bit earlier today, but first let's talk about Kobe Brown.
Chuck, you put them on the rundown for a reason. I know you've
been watching highlights and you're doing a deep dive on him, him and trying
to decipher whether or not he can attribute or contribute something this season to this
clip Clippers team. Yeah. So there was a tweet from Justin w a
Ka La Clippers film. Please watch on YouTube if you want to get some
of these gags. We can't keep giving these name gags away for free on
the audio pods. Justin w a Ka La Clippers Film someone who you absolutely
should be following if you want to learn more about basketball, if you want
to learn more about the Clippers. It's a It's a great resource. He
tweeted in parentheses, I think there's a real route towards Kobe Brown being somewhat
of a contributor for LAC next season. I saw this tweet and then went
on a vacation where I was in the woods with no cell service or anything,
and it just had me thinking about how shitty the power forward rotation is
and about how Kobe Brown based on when it did in Summer League, which
might have been an anomaly because the three point percentage was absurd. But he
has tools that helped the Clippers out. Before we talk about kind of what
he does well to get time, not just what he does well kind of
randomly. What does an actual contributor mean to you guys? For Kobe Brown,
I'm not talking like, you know, fifth in the team on minutes,
I'm not talking anything like that. Is there a chance he's the third
power forward on this team? No, you don't think so. Do you
hear the names that we just rank, they're bad. There's a chance it
gets cleaned up, and therefore he has a better chance of sliding into the
third spot ahead of check. So that's not I'm not trying. I'm here.
I'm not here to put him a segments. I'm here to talk about
how he could find a way to being a legitimate contributor. Here's what he
does. He passes well, he plays good defense, he has switchability,
huge wingspan, he's a connector on offense, he gets the hockey, assists
that whole thing. We saw his defense in the Summer League. It's very
seemingly so far with what we had real he's active in passing lanes, He's
physical like, this is a guy who brings things that I think Tylu likes
as a coach. If he doesn't turn the ball over, he likes to
push the pace like there's a path there. If he has a good training
camp and he shows out in the preseason, that he could get a more
tangible role on the team than Brandon Boston Junior has, which is really all
I'm hoping for him. I know Brandon Boston shows some things in an NBA
game in the G League, which is more competitive than Summer League, and
he still can't really get in the rotations. What are the chances that Kobe
Brown, who hasn't shown an who hasn't played G League yet. I see
what you're saying there. He has a more well rounded game. Yes,
and then the Boston's game is one thing, which is score. If he
can show something at the four, a position of need, mister forty six,
Randon Boston. I'm just saying, if a guy can be that good
at times in the G League and even during a season like last year where
Kauh I missed the entire thing where Paul George only play at thirty one games,
I think, and he still couldn't get minutes. It's gonna be difficult,
Like he's really gonna have to pop in the preseason and showing easy path.
It's not just I think about being versatile and showing he can do all
these things. It's not standing out for the negatives either, Like he just
has to be very he has to play beyond his years. He has to
show a basketball IQ that doesn't hurt the turnovers. It's limit the fouls and
no turnovers. And his shooting is a little suspect. That's the big that's
his biggest hurdle. He shot so bad his first three years at MISSOI he
shot like twenty three percent, then is from three, then is finally or
he shot like forty percent. So there's this this sustainable right, Like is
that real? I don't know, Probably not, would be my guests.
Did he shoot at the moving hoops moving around in a Can he shoot a
steel ball underwater? Have we seen him try that? Folks? I'm see
with lethal shooter or no. I'm just saying I think obviously for a team
like the Climbers, whos trying to win a championship. He's not gonna get
you know, I just think his role could be bigger than Brandon Boston Juniors
because he plays team basketball. He helps connect plays, he can see cuts
well, he's a good you know, back to the basket passer, Like
these are things that this team needs at the four, and if his defense
sticks out, I think that's as big as help its stay has an interesting
point too about the Brandon Boston junior comp you know, kind of has to
do with the position that Brandon Junior says it is much more of a log
jam at the two and the three for Brandon Boston Junior to happen. We
just a log jam, and it is now that we're walking down sort of
this log jam at the flour though. I guess I'm I'm not as convinced
that things are very clear at that position either, which I think here in
a great spot every time we chat. I'm like, man, Clippers are
in a pretty good spot. I think that helps Kobe Brown if he so
You've seen we have we have the most known quantities of power forward. Right.
We know exactly what Nickportune brings. We know I guess what Marcus Morris
brings now we've seen Robert Covington brings, but the coach has no interest in
that. Kobe Brown has an opportunity. Again, I'm not saying this is
a lock. I'm not saying start in game one two, carve out.
Oh, here's a new guy. He's bringing some juice, like he can
play in transition, like this is a fun So yes, I guess realistically,
I guess realistically. My question is to both of you, does he
see more or less playing time than Musa did? Did previously? End this
season? Oh? Did he previously? Uh? Well, I don't think
that. I think he'll see more time than Musa. Let me look at
Moosa's numbers last year. But Moose is also crazy raw and plays the five
more between. Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying, for like a
realistic comparison, he helps them win that game, one game eighteen going into
the fourth, one more game at this level, that's such a weird What's
that You're saying he only played one game. It's like, well, he
still did its. Musa played one hundred and ninety five minutes last year.
I think more. I think DJs agrees with you. Kobe Brown is six
eight, two hundred and fifty pounds pure muscle and speed and athleticism with a
seven two wingspan. He brings everything we need for power forward. Don't start
him, but that means if you still need a starting power forward, Yes,
we do. Could not agree more. I think he gets over one
hundred in ninety five minutes X here if and I'm like, again, does
he get more than four and twenty minutes? Man, I always right on
the number because that will be a very fun episode. Uh no, he
but again, he has to show it in camp. I'm not saying,
give this guy this stuff, like if he is out playing Moosa and these
guys, which I think is possible with the way that he has played played
basketball up to this point, it's there. It's there. I do think
it's probable. I also think, are we even talking about this if he
doesn't have the thirty five point game with seven threes? Uh? Yeah,
because I don't really give a shit about Summer League. If that's a fair
argument. I just wing. But I just needed to do something point shooting,
right. I just said you couldn't try. I didn't just say look
at that game where he put up thirty five with the shooting. I said
it was suspect, So I don't think like I think he needs two hit
shots. If he's going into play like I'm a that has to translate.
I think that's a big part of why they drafted him. If that stuff
doesn't translate at all, I don't see what his role is going to be.
I mean, obviously the shoot needs to be there. Like I'm I'm
not saying he can shoot twenty percent from three preseason. If he shoots a
not horrifying amount from three, Let's say he shoots thirty seven percent. I
know it's not John Wall from the corner numbers at him. But let's say
he shoots man, we are not dunked on Adam and let's say shoots three.
Service on from three shows some good passing I Q and his defense,
as DJ f Music like points out, is there. He can get more
than one hundred and ninety five minutes if he's there, because he showed it
in a league you don't care about the summer league, but his defense is
there. What counts in the summer league and what doesn't. Shooting I don't
think counts. I don't think shooting counts. I'm just saying, can we
pick and choose what counts it doesn't. I don't know total defense there isn't
because he hasn't played at the be A level. I know that's what we're
gonna see. Why are you so against this idea? Why don't you?
But I'm just good. You're kind of like all over the place. I
don't know. I want him to work, but what matters and what does
it? Like? We we don't know what he is yet, is what
I'm saying. Saying, like his defense is there or he can do all
this stuff if it's there. I felt like I said, okay, okay,
Well let's say he's all trades, he's a jack of all trades,
a multi tool type player. Sure, then I agree with you. You're
right, because then he can find some crevice where they need something like if
he if he can help well, I don't want to go pause here,
but I didn't say he can find a role somewhere if he can do more
on the court. The more you offer, the more opportunities you're likely going
to get. Yeah, then it makes sense. The problem is do we
know one area that he actually can offer yet that for sure he can do.
I feel like you missed the point where I said he has to be
really good in training camp in preseason. Okay, I thought that subject matter
was can he break the rotation or can he get in? Well, if
the breakdown, the question now is will he get more minutes than Musa?
I think there's a legit shot at that over under three hundred and fifty minutes?
What under that? I don't think he's I thought the question was whether
or not he could help the team this year, not whether or not he
could get more minutes than Musa. Well, things have changed, Okay,
find the crevice. It's evolving question. I think he can show Tyler that
he maybe should play him, and I think the powerful rotation is as of
six thirty seven PM on September twentieth, suspect he might have he might have
a little spark. He might have some spark. I love how high you
are on him. That's all I'm gonna say. I mean, I'm not
saying he should take Morris's minutes, but I'm hyped. I'm excited. You're
not not saying that exactly rank him above Morris. But well you also,
I mean you ranked a lot of people. You ranked Will above Morris.
Will said he worked out earlier today. Yeah, that's true. We don't
know about that more. It's the gym one time. Yeah, he's probably
better. He's probably. All I'm saying is and this, I guess this
actually might be more of a testament to how bad the power forward rotation is.
It's undefined. There's an opportunity to steal a role. It is undefined,
dude. Is that it's just too unclear? I guess is the thing
that I'm struggling with. It's kind of bad. Dude. They're old and
they're bad at defense, like more more. But Jim is good at defense,
but I don't think you plays starting level minutes of defense for a whole
season. And Morris can't do that, and I guess Robert Covington could,
but they just won't play it. I hope it's as simple as, oh,
kJ Martin is turning into a mini Kenneth for Reid and he just soak
up twenty five minutes a night. And there it is. We give that
out, give me that that would be fine? Then then yeah, I'm
fully on board with that. Because we also kJ kJ is almost an unknown
quantity too because of black. We mentioned the ship showing used with their basketball.
So yeah, all right, I think I might take the under on
the one ninety five because we still have to figure out what kJ is gonna
do. I hope I will concede that. I just can't believe we're still
it's still this murky with the four positions. I think we all agree on
that it's not fun. Three months ago, we would have said, if
anything is more clear by September, it's the four. Yeah, we're set,
dude, we can well yeah, I mean, like I said,
I just thought, like, of all things, even to not acquire new
talent just to consolidate the position I think is additioned by subtraction, and we
haven't. We haven't done that. So they tried. They did try.
It is I mean, I do like that that conversation about like the starters,
Like, so we shipped Morris out and we bring in like a Brogden
or whatever, hopefully Turnspanna just start. We'd move Kawai and PG down,
but I'm not. I don't know if that happens, I'm not seeing it.
And then we're in an even weirder plays. There's a lot to be
determined, boys, but hey, and that's what makes this podcast so great.
We get a speculated about everything that could happen. We got two weeks
old training camp. It's gonna be fine, all right. Some other random
stuff we wanted to talk about. Xavier Moon back on the Exhibit ten deal.
Shout out back, shout out the greatest basketball player in the history of
the Canadian Basketball League, the Vibe King. He's looking to compete for the
Clippers final two way spot. Feel like he's got a pretty good handle on
it. He's playing for the Clippers of the past two years, three years,
Like it seems like his spot, right. I root for Moon.
He's one of those guys where I honestly feel like in a different era,
he is a locked in backup point guard for a team that is getting buckets
every night. It is only because he's diminutive. He just doesn't have the
size or a lead athleticism that a lot of guards and point guards have nowadays
where you have to be able to break down the defense and shoot. And
the nineties or early he's good. You know, the facial hair. John
Lawrence a spot. He's done everything right for this Clippers team. He's been
awesome. Yeah, uh so this is kind of a tangent. We've talked
about zoobots growing his hair long try and get more foul calls. What about
this keep the hair short, some crazy mutton chops. I kind of like
that. Look you're talking to Foo man Zoo, who was the guy who
played the Bikers Arizona. I could see Zoo looking a little bit like that
guy, dude, Foo man Zoo. Yeah, l L wtf Eric,
if you're listening, if you're out there, please I need a foo man
Zoo. Please also please support all of Eric puise art. It's so good.
He's given a podcast piece and stuff. It's really cool the show.
Yes, it is done by him. All right. Final thing that I
wanted to bring up except for adamson Jo Turtles poster. It is a sickcast
poster. Uh. Last thing I wanted to bring up, and then I
promise I'll never talk about it again. The Clippers had the exact same schedule
release video as the Jacksonville University women's basketball team. Who's came first the Clippers
did? But how is it the same? Because so if you watch that,
it's shot for shot the same thing. It's a basketball on the beach.
Where point about? But like if theirs came out first. It's just
clearly done by the same company. And I the only one who cares about
this. It's fairifying is it's just uninteresting as a fan, it's uninteresting.
I have to imagine we're the only NBA team that had the shot for shot
layout as a college basketball team for their schedule release video. So I care
about marketing shit, which I understand not everyone does. But I mean it's
a little soulless and I just wish it had more clippers, like just more
uniqueness to it. I I agree, and this is We've talked about this
before, but I feel like this is one of the areas where, you
know, the NBA has kind of had a corner on social media as as
far as sports are concerned. Yes, these like season reveal videos, they're
getting lapped by the NFL right now, And I would I agree with you.
I would like to see something a little bit more, a little bit
more panache. I would like to see something with maybe a little bit more
personality. You know. That's That's where I'm at, because it's like the
when I first saw the video, I was like, Okay, kJ Martin
is taking a basketball to chick fil a because they're playing the Nuggets sick.
And then I see the same video from a small college school where they're do
like the same joke, and it's just kind of like, Okay, so
our team didn't really make that. That's fine. Why are you putting this
up? I agree, we've reused shirts in the playoffs? You got what
do you think? So? What's everybody's pitch on? What do you want
the team slogan to be this year? Oh, you got to move task,
give no quarters? That's a great had it was stay stinky or something.
Time to get stinky, Get stinky might have to be the It's like
darkwing duck, let's get dangerous, Let's get stinky. So Adam can't really
comment on this because he's paid by the team for a other job. Respects.
What about give no dime? We just don't hand out as if we
don't do assists this year? I'll so baby, I think gets stinky.
Clippers get stinky, that's what it should be, stinky dude. An arena
showning let's get stinky is a good time you're missing a free throw if you're
if they're shouting let's get stinky. No, So what should the slogan be
it can't be worse than last year. It can't be given no quarter.
What if it's given no hat. No, I'm saying that the slogan should
be it can't be worse than last I mean empty the clip would be great,
but there's no way they would ever do that. That would be insane.
Yeah, I don't know. I'm excited to see. I feel like
every team's got in their city edition leaked except for the Clippers, and the
city edition last year was really sweet. So I'm hoping we get a little
some more of that because that that was nice last year. We got to
give a shoutut to the marketing department for the good people are still wold.
Not hope it's gonna end up being a red Jersey. I don't. I
wanted to be four LA Street dogs positioned into an LA That's what I want.
I wanted to be. How would the layout work? What do you
mean one hot dog, two hot dog, three hot dog, four hot
dogs? Oh okay, you like the dogs? Yeah, we'll have this
like diagrammed earlier or something. What do you mean it's four hot dogs to
make LA? What's so hard to understand? A man who knows what's gonna
happen. All right, I think I think we're we've we've given enough content.
Adam doesn't want Kobe Brown to be good? What about is it over?
What about? Is it over yet? Dude? Is it? Is
it over yet? Uh? Wake me up one September and gotta hate this.
It's a terrible soul. All right, We're probably gonna be back next
week. We've been reaching out to guess that you DM people on Twitter now
is broken as fuck. No one wants to read your ship, which makes
sense. Will we're so happier back? We need some reviews on the show
on iTunes. If you're listening in the offseason, you probably care enough about
the Clippers, will leave a review. We'd appreciate it. We'll read it
on there. Also, we're really looking for subscribers over on the YouTube.
Not to plug it too much, but it is YouTube dot com slash at
Clippers Podcast. I stand corrected. I try to correct check earlier in the
show. I was wrong. It happens. I'm usually right, Adam,
Adam, would you like to say something nice to these fans before we head
out of here? Also, I would like to say, Adam wants Kobe
Brown to succeed. You know, he's pro Kobe Brown. We think.
I love Kobe Brown. I just worry about if he's getting a bunch of
minutes, something may have gone wrong. Yeah, that's not what I'll our
powerful hips this year. This is not true. I actually do put some
stock in Summer League and those thirty five points on the way he got them,
and that he was still willing to shoot after shooting so poorly from three
and showing that level of confidence. Yeah, so I am high on him.
I just don't I feel like there still has to be a move made
if it's going to open up time for him. I will agree with that,
which I'd still be all four, just like I was way back in
June of cleaning up the power forward position a little bit and Kobe Brown maybe
getting more minutes because of that and kJ Martin. I still think, as
you mentioned earlier, who knows what he's capable of because he's been playing with
the Houston Rockets, and who knows what he's capable of in a contract year
for a team with championship expectations, how much he can help? And I
like my Kenneth Reid comp earlier. By the way, if he could bring
some of that type of hustle to a team because he's not because I mean
he's he hasn't been on a team that actually is playing for something. He
knew going into every year that the Houston Rockets we're not going to make the
playoffs, at least once James Harden asked out. So yeah, speaking up,
Maybe we'll have more on that next week. I don't know who knows.
I want to get somebody on from Philly Bad. I thought that would
have been interesting to Philly Podcast. They don't want to get back to us
before we get out. Before we get out of here. Clips or Die
has a great comment, we should bring some fans on the show. Discord
or something takes some calls. We'll definitely look into getting that set up in
the off season. But or you know, sometimes see now in the start
of the season. So yes, we're super into that. Follow us over
at Clippers pod Guy to the show. Check us out on YouTube if you
want to be involved in that. Yeah, look out for the Google voice
number. That's always a fun thing taking voicemails and whatnot for that. We
will be back next week and as always, let's go clips in ducks.
No, I guess.