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Sit down beat. I'm ninety seven
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minutes, we'll get the exclusive audio
for you. The fourth ISD meeting yesterday

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that was interrupted by porn. The
news has been covering this. I've got

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a couple of news reports. They're
kind of funny to hear, but they

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did not play the audio for you. I have the audio. I had

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listener that was actually a part of
that committee, was at the meeting,

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emailed me and said, you were
not going to believe this KT and they

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sent it to me and it's incredible. Seven thirty five. Don't miss it.

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Yes, please, Kevin, but
right now, let's do this the

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music and now sports and seven.
You know, things look good in the

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first half, and then the Mavericks
found a way to well things look get

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in the first or Mavericks came out
We're knocking down threes, had a good

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double digit lead for a bit there, and then the Sons came storming back

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outscored the MAVs by twenty three and
the third quarter Sons ended up winning by

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twenty three. Kyrie did not play
and tough loss at home last night for

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the MAVs on National TV. There
and I couldn't help. But look at

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the line from the starting lineup,
Luca thirty four points and the rest of

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your starters Grant Williams eight, Derek
Jones Junior sixth, Derek Clevely eight,

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Josh Green eight. Luca needs help. Let's start before we getting a Luca,

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because we could do that forever.
Yep, because we've had Jason Kidd

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as a both potential guest and you
know, we're dancing with it. We're

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probably gonna have him soon, assuming
he's the Mavericks head coach. Yeah,

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I know, which we'll get into
all that. But one thing I wanted

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to ask him because if you watch
that game, they everyone on that court

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was salty. It was really fun
and they it doesn't happen very oft in

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the NBA, but like I was
ready for the throwdown, Like it was

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pretty close to popping off into an
actual word swinging fight that would have made

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national you know, big news,
all this stuff, and that's exciting,

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and that creates a cool, like
tense environment. I'm not got old man

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saying, you know, you gotta
hate each other, you know, like

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I get it. It's a modern
sports We're gonna smile and exchange jerseys and

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hug after heartbreaking losses for a fan
like it's just not what it used to

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be. But man, every now
and again you get those games where there

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is legit I don't want to say
hatred, and maybe that's too strong,

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but and I wonder what happened in
a lot, like did they talk about

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this or they just know it's Phoenix
We're gonna have one of them nights,

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because that thing felt different. Grant
Williams started at Real early, and now

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two games in a row or two
out of three, he's had a near

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h dust up with the other team. I mean, if nothing else,

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I like that he's at least a
bit of an enforcer and bulldog type guy

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and doesn't give a blank Like I
like all that. But I wonder if

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Kid tells him beforehand, like break
out of this, you know malaise that

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I guess you're sort of playing with
and fight somebody. Not literally, but

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man, it was close to popping
off. And that was a very contentious

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first half, specifically until it got
out of hand and then everyone just wanted

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to go home. Yeah, when
Grant Williams got his second technical, that's

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when I went uh oh, Like
when great Williams get is like everything changed

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real quick, especially that third quarter. They were at the second quarter when

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the Suns came fighting back, and
then the third quarter of the matter just

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didn't show up. And I don't
know, you have the thing Kyrie missed

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because of the right thumb sprain.
Did you feel better about that game if

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Luca and Kyrie are in there,
Absolutely you do. But I don't know

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if that makes much of a difference, because the Mavericks weren't getting much help

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from anywhere else and same problem.
First half was fine and then second half

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it's like what happened? We can't
even play a full game anymore. And

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I don't know if that's preparation.
I don't know, if it's just the

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lack of physicality. I don't know
what it is. There's a lot of

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questions about this team right now.
And your star player is unhappy, so

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happy that he's chirping with a fan, so unhappy that he's chirping with a

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fan in the second half and points
to the ref to try to get him

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ejected, and he was. Now
reports from the media will tell you that

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all the guy said was that Luca
needs to get onto the treadmill. You

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look, you look tired, Luca, get on the treadmill. Hit your

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ass on the treadmill, now,
Luca, very mild as you will hear

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acceptable if that's all I want.
Yeah, And it was a guy who

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his sons fan. They was sitting
behind some of the media members there where

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they were sitting the Tim McMahon's of
the world. Who you will hear here?

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This is from a postgame. It's
you're gonna hear a little Tim mc

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mahon. You might hear a little
Brad Townsend for the Dallas Morning News,

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Tim McMahon of ESPN and Luca.
And it got a little tense right after

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the game. Look, what were
you frustrated about the second quarter when you

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get that technical? I know I
saw you when you said about the ten.

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You know that was not a true
all that was not the only thing

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he said. But I knew you
would be the first one to point out

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something like that, because I'm not
gonna say what he said, but I

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knew you were going to be the
first one to put out something like that,

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So I just saw it. Man. It's just funny. You always

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seem to be the first one to
put some bad stuff about me, first

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of all, nine percent of stuff
I've written about who's been good? Oh,

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I don't know. I was sitting
two rows behind us, all right,

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So it was the only thing he
was that time he said something.

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The only thing that was what you
reacted to. Yeah, I was hearing

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the whole first half. Right,
Oh, you didn't hear anything. Act

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you put out something that was just
the only thing. But what was the

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final was the thing. It's not
the issue. I'm just seeing you seems

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to be the first one to always
put something bad about me. It's fine,

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it's all over. Why did you
ask for the fan to be ejected

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because he was cursing me the whole
first half too. Why didn't you ask

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ejected in the first half, because
son ever would eject a fan, they

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pay for tickets. But I had
enough, you know, it's a little

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bit of frustration. You turned your
head and looked over at him after he

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said that. That's I mean,
that's what we saw. Fun the guy

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the bad guy in the media.
Right, it's all right. You fairly

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portrayed of the media. No,
oh, oh a lot there. First

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portrayed poorly in the media in Dallas, Texas. Trust me, this is

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as soft as it'll ever get for
you, dude, no matter where you

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end up. Well, yeah,
I agree with that, but then the

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cowboys say they have it worse than
anywhere, and you know, like nothing's

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like being a Dallas cowboy. I
just don't know where the line is between

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Dallas media and national meet whatever.
Yeah. I was always remember that what

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English is Luca's fifth language, So
anytime there's like that sort of verbal sparring,

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not to say that he's, you
know, bringing a knife to a

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gunfight, but it's a little unfair
for him to eloquently deliver the possible nuance

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of his anger and all that when
you're being teamed up on I guess by

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the local media. I'll also say
I like Tim McMahon. I think there

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needs to be more media bulldogs that
aren't scared to ask hard questions, and

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he's one of the few around here, specifically with the Mavericks. The last

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tough stuff. And when you get
embarrassed on National TV, yeah that might

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be a time when I got some
questions that you don't really want to hear.

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Third thing, maybe ten minutes is
it when between when you leave the

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floor to when you're on that podium, enough time to look at Twitter,

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enough time to check Twitter. First
thing you jumped out to me, check

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your social media's look, find out
what the story is and bring that to

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your podium. Because McMahon tweeted a
short video of the game and the point

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where Luca asked for the fan to
be removed, and McMahon also included text

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denoting what the fan said at that
time, which was the you look slow

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out there, get your ass on
a treadmill. Ucas saw that, and

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he took exception with that is the
only thing that you're saying that. He

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said, I've spent the whole first
half. This guy's cursing me out.

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Now. McMahon didn't deny that.
He said, yeah, he was very

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he was very vocal, or however
he phrased that when Lucas said, you

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know, he was, you know, drawn at me the entire first half,

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and I don't want to get a
fan thrown out. Well, you

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did, you know what you did
it once the straw broke the camel's back.

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And I don't think it was what
the guy said. I think it's

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how your team and you personally were
performing in the third quarter watching that thing

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turn into an absolute route and yeah, he was frustrated. So he's Look,

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he's prone to tantrums. We know
what his emotional agility is like,

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and it ain't great. He's not
a measured man when it comes to handling

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stuff like that. He's also very
very very young. Yeah, but none

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of this is it's not a good
one look for anybody, really, Well,

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there's a there's a fear I think. I think there's a fear that

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runs throughout the organization of we can't
piss him off. Yeah, and that

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is where you have to go.
Now. I moved my scope more away

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from Luca usually because whatever happened after
the game, Luca is the only one

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that performed last night. You know, Luca carries this team on his back

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to a twenty four and twenty record. He's carried them to that, and

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he's beat up and he's like he
got drilled yesterday. You see the second

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half he had and one where he
got you know, they slapped his arm

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and it flipped his whole weight over. He lands straight on his COCKSIX.

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I was like, oh my god, that's you're not getting up from that,

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And then he did. He gets
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I think he missed that free throw, but he gets he does get hammered.

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Now, I don't know if he
gets hammered anymore than other stars,

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and maybe a style of play,
and he's a bruiser and he takes it

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to the rack, you know,
as much as anybody. And I understand

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his frustration, but good god,
dude, it's out of control. The

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body language is awful, all of
his body language. And I don't know

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if he hates his coach or is
fed up with his coach or the franchise.

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I mean, this is not looking
good at all. And yes,

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he has reason to we frustrate,
especially when you're getting smoked in the second

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half and you feel like you're the
best basketball player in the court and there's

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nothing you can do. I get
all the frustration. One of the national

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announcements don't know who was yesterday was
like, it's not just like he's he

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yells at bad calls. It's constant. Yeah, there's almost no break from

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his reactions to the referees. It's
muscle memory for him. It never stops.

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It is just a simmering, constant
anger at everything the referees are doing.

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And yeah, you get banged with
and you got a stupid tech at

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the end of the His tech came
after play in the second quarter, and

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the announcers everyone's like, oh God, here it comes. And he just

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can't stop even their play is walking
off the court and and hardaway or somebody

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tries to grab me and he's like, no, I have to say one

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more thing and then go ahead and
get your tech, which is gonna lead

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to missing a damn game because of
the text that you're mounting. I look,

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I've never had a dude who's on
a team that I liked, and

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I I love the dude. He's
incredible. He's maybe the best athlete this

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city's ever seen, like relative to
everyone else. Yeah, in the sport,

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like he's right highest level. But
dude, how what do you do?

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I don't know? And is it
there's no one he listens to and

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is because the whole franchise is so
scared of him maybe making a decision.

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But it's almost like, I'm sure
there's a great saying for it. I

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can't think of him. It's like
what you want to happen least everything you

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do you try to make sure that
won't happen, and then everything you do

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leads to that exact thing happening,
Like you're he's losing it. I will

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say this, and just a moment
ago, I was maybe critical of his

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emotional agility. Let's put it.
Let let's make a relative discussion here,

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because I think if you put any
one of us in his shoes, I

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can't say we'd handle it any better. If the things that we're seeing are

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true. He's getting banged up all
the time. He's not getting calls that

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he probably should. He's kind of
because he is so good that the referees

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kind of give him the benefit of
the doubt because he does finish plays anyway

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with dudes hanging on him. Well, he made the layup, so no

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foul. You know. It's like
like we talked about with Drew Pierson,

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who was it we were talking with
that about the other day. Yeah,

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with Campo No, the Micah Parsons, the Shack rule, all of that

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about how you yeah, yeah,
because yeah, blanding, because you are

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so good and you finish. They
that's all they're seeing is the beauty in

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the completion of the play and not
the actual stuff that would get called on

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maybe another player. I can't say
that I would handle it any more maturely

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than he does. I can't say
that my frustrations wouldn't hit a boiling point

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where I'm lashing out at fans and
writing referees asses all the time. But

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the problem is is we had two
decades me okay before I move on.

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Did Dirk get this any worse than
Luca's getting it right now early in his

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career? No, No, No
referees, fans riding him, the media

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ripping this guy. Oh my god, another euro bust, another big white

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stiff. I mean that guy got
murdered early on in his career. He

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did pre Twitter. Yeah, that's
true, but don't get a lot of

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that stuff to the refs too,
But not as constant as No, not

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anywhere close to it, because Dirk
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how, but he had a little
more emotional maturity to handle these situations.

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So what I'm saying is because Dirk
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can be capable of taking in and
enduring in a basketball game. From officials,

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from other players, from the media, from fans, you know,

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you kind of have that expectation.
It's like, well, dude, yeah,

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Luca I know it's hard out there, but ah, there's a template

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here, man, and it can
be done well. And one thing about

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Dirk is he when he got here
was unsure he belonged here. He didn't

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have the confidence that Luca brought with
him here, Luca walking here. I

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guess. I don't know if he
got off the plane and said watch this

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NBA, because I think he's admitted
the stories that training can are those practice

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games before training camp. Well,
no, but it was he wasn't.

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Everyone else was like, Wow,
this dude's really good, and he was

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realizing, yes, this translates.
But he's even said that he's surprised how

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easy scoring came in the NBA relative
to how he scored in Europe. But

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anyway, he knew he was the
man. He knew he was good,

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and he had a lot more confidence
than Dirk did. Dirk felt like a

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newborn giraffe in the NBA for a
couple of years. He didn't come in

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thinking I'm a superstar. I get
superstar calls. Luca started with that,

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and I thought it would lower with
his maturity. It's worse than ever right

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now. And a Texter just said, when we're gonna stop seeing you a

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kid. He is one month away
from me twenty five. I looked at

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the NBA technical foul leaders. Trey
Young is second with him. They're tied

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for second in the league with nine. Dylan Brooks has eleven. He's a

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known technical getter. But then it's
like Jason Tatum, he's a star.

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He's like there a couple of big
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but nine does seem excessive. We
see him complain every night. I

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think if you didn't watch the map, maybe you watch the MAVs two,

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three, four times a year on
national TV, you would go, God,

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he's bitching a lot because it is
every game. It is non stop.

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First of all, let me go
at this. So I have a

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hard time being hard on Luca,
who puts up thirty easily every night,

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gets a triple double nearly every night. We need to talk about the coach.

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He even said before the game.
The Bucks fired Adrian Griffin their coach

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at thirty and thirteen because they weren't
vibing well, and Jason Kidd said before

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the game in the pregame press conference, this puts of every coach in the

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league on Hiler, that no matter
what your team's record is, you can

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be fired. That's how coaches should
take it. Jason gets here because the

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committee appointed him. Cuban, Niko
was involved, Dirk was involved, Michael

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Finley was involved, but also see
as a guy who could work with Luca.

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Are we in a coddling situation because
we're scared Luca is gonna want to

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get out of here? Is that
what's going on? I kind of think

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it is. Well, that's not
a way to operate an organization where everybody

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around Luca that makes decisions is constantly
walking on eggshells and living in fear that

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he's going to bounce. That's what
I said earlier. That will lead to

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him bouncing. Yes, it's accident. Everything you try to do to make

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sure that doesn't happen is leading toward
making it happen because it enables him to

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continue on with this stuff. There's
no boundaries for him. I mean,

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he's setting boundaries for Luca on this
team. Mark Cuban, the head coach

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at GM like no one. Carlisle
known as a hard ass, though it

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didn't work there either. Being hard
on him didn't work either, But it

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works and he was really good he's
still silver all NBA. Yeah, I

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know, Like that's the constant is
youbot be better now if you don't watch

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games and just stare at box scores, You're like, this is the you

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know, top three player in which
he is. And I don't want to

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equate it to like a father figure
relationship, you know, coach to a

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twenty four year old man, but
it's it looks like Luca doesn't respect his

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head coach because you know, Kid
has had these conversations and maybe not that

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many. I mean Kid says he
tells them all the time. You know,

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you got to be levelheaded, do
this, it'll all come to you.

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But Luca's he has these brat tendencies
and he's not seemingly listening to anyone.

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And you're right, maybe he's enabled
by the entire organization and maybe we're

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the biggest idiots ever. Do whatever
the hell you're doing, Luca, because

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you're hanging a triple double every night. Yeah, one thing that's kind of

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sucks for Luca and we see it
every day, you know, where news

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outlets will include social media comments into
the body of their stories. You know,

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it's just a weird world that we
live in. People are saying,

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but there are there. I guess
because of the world we live in and

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the way we've you know, evolved
to this that social media comments, I

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guess they matter now by all metrics. This is horrible for Luca because if

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you did, you know, search
like I did last night before I went

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to bed, the Luca McMahon whatever, and you're seeing all the videos and

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you're seeing the people comment on it. The vast majority of people that are

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reacting to this are not in support
of Luca and and often it is tagged

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with what a whiney little bitch.
Luca's a whiney little baby. Oh most

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opposing fan not most, because again, ticket prices skyrocket when the MAVs go

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there, because people want to see
Luca. I mean sure, no doubt

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everyone respects his games. Both of
those things can be true. I looked

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at after the McMahon thing and kicking
the fan out, one hundred of them

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soft soft, And I don't know
if I mean he's emotional. I don't

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know that he's soft. No,
he's not well, not on the floor.

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No, he ain't soft the furthest
thing. But he right there and

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you asked him, and you're like, what the hell, Luca would say,

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are you you wires? Anyone yelling
at me? Are you kidding?

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I do everything? Most half this
team does very little. Hey, guess

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what. They're not good at basketball
on the NBA level. Luca's like,

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you're your spotlight's pointed at me.
I'm killing myself out there. I should

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take a week off, and then
I limp out there and I do everything.

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So yeah, I get a little
frustrated, like and I do get

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that side, understand that. But
we've just never seen anyone bitch like he

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does. It's it's it's more than
anyone we've ever seen. It's it's incredule.

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And he goes home and the first
thing he hears is, hold this

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baby. I've been working all day
too. You hold the bat. It's

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your turn. He went to he
went to school to learn how to change

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diapers. And did you know that
he admitted to that to that class.

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I don't know. It was a
literal class, That's what he says.

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Some other wife had to give him
a quick class. I would imagine.

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I'm not saying any took a semester
at rich. No, he know somebody

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had to teach him how I could
do this all morning because we just tipped

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the icebird with kid. I'm glad
I said this last week even and yesterday

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before. Now, I mean not
that everyone's everyone's been saying it, but

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what the hell? What do you
bring? Why do we win games because

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of our head coach? I don't
know. Is it because Luca's so calm

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and forming into the perfect weapon that
he's already is? I mean, maybe

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their relationship leads to Lucas corn a
triple double every night. Maybe when Luca

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runs hot is when he performs at
this level. Maybe, but I don't

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know what you're what Jason Kidd does
to quate to wins for the Dallas Mavericks,

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And he doesn't chures hell doesn't know
what to do when they're on a

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forty to ten run on the wrong
side of it like we were last night.

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And maybe we don't as constituted belong
on the same floor as the Phoenix

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Suns or the Boston Celtics. Fine, and maybe when they get healthy they

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win a bunch of games. And
there's that rational part. It's almost like

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the retaining McCarthy part of my brain, which is like five days after the

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loss, Oh yeah, maybe that
was the best decision. You know what

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happens when Luke and Kyrie are able
to play every single night and Grant Williams

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is healthy and they got exum back
last night and Derek Lively has been hurt,

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Like what happens when you get them
all healthy? Like there's so many

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questions and you would play that,
but you did just get blasted by the

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Celtics, who are a better team
than you, even when the matter are

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healthy. And they were both on
the floor and they were they were healthy

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good. They didn't dominate the game, but they were both good looking and

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Kyrie, but are we sure Jason
Kidd knows how to manipulate the joy of

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having two of the best players in
the sport on the same team. And

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I think Kyrie, who's been a
you know in interviews, seems like the

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vibe is perfect. I think he
kind of sits back on ice like last

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night and just goes, the hell's
going on with these people? He's been

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seventeen out of forty four games.
No, Yeah, that hurts. That's

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that's tough. Man. After the
game, he was walking off the floor

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and everyone's I feel like Kyrie is
just like, oh my god, I

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wish they're all e fing crazy that. Yeah, I'd love to know what

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advanced basketball minds see from a strategic
standpoint, because it makes me kind of

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further the question. I mean,
does Jason Kidd even know how to create

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lineups on the floor for the MAVs
that set them up for their best their

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best chance at winning? Does he
know how to use Luca and Kyrie together?

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Does he know what to do when
one of them's out? I just

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I don't know what Rick Carlichael,
Rick Carlichael, Rick Carlisle definitely was a

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master strategic mind when it came to
the art of basketball. I don't know

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if Jason Kidd is that. I
know that he's liked I know that Luca

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likes him, right, don't we
know? Is he his friend? Yeah?

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Is? I don't know what he's
here for. I don't know this

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because Luca respect him, like part
of me. In that game last night

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was like, take Luca out number
once in the third quarter, you're down

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twenty five whatever it is, and
they came back to make it eighteen whatever

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it was. Yeah, but it's
like, you're just gonna get another tech

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And I'm glad he didn't or you're
gonna get hurt even further, like take

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him out. But I don't know
if kid has the balls to take Luca

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out of his standard rotation on a
day when Luca is playing, you know

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what I mean. Well, let's
get into this more later, because it's

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gonna be this is gonna be a
big topic all day long. Let's get

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in this more later. I want
to work the phones on this too.

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I texted Tim McMahon to see if
he'll do the thing to him a pain,

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So we'll see if he can get
him to Collins. Well, maybe

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we'll have Skin jump in at nine
thirty five too, they'd have a take

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on it. He'll take some phone
calls a little bit later as well.

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Because I'll tell you this, we've
been in a damn holding pattern to get

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Jason Kidd on now for almost two
weeks. Because we can't get him on

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unless they win a game. That's
true, we might not hear from me

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till March. That's also not there. That's not on them. I've actually

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offered that as almost like a you
know, good faith here, Thank hell,

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let's get him back for a win. Yeah. I would love to

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have had him on today. Yeah. No, I mean that's something I

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can you know, we could ask. I guess he would have declined today.

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Yeah, coming up next, the
shocking thing that interrupted a fort Worth

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i D Committee meeting. It's it's
porn, and I have the audio that

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no one else has. It was
sent to me by someone who's in the

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meeting. Next time, ninety seven
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