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So Mike Tyson's taking it seriously,
like, Yeah, who's one of those

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other ones that'll knock him out,
you know, like one of those other

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weird celebrities like Sean Penn. I'd
rather be punched by Sean Penn. Granted

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it's still a punch to the face, but it's not the guy who probably

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could kill you. Welcome to Scary
Mystery Surprise, where we talk about scary

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things that surprised us around the Internet. I'm Edwin and I'm Michelle. You've

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heard of a wild child? Michelle? Uh huh, Yeah, of course,

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I've never used the term. Honestly, I think you're more likely to

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use like a wild child, like
they're out of control, like they're smoking

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cigarettes, staying out at night.
That wild child? Is it still common?

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It's common? I mean I don't
know what is a wild child now

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in theory? In Troubled Teen anyway, Yes, today I'm going to be

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telling you about these bizarre cases of
children that acted like animals and not troubled

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teens. Feral children. Did you
ever watch that movie? Now? No,

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I don't really recommend it, but
Jodie Foster plays a feral child with

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a twin language yeah, Okay,
I don't know if it needs to be

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added to a list. It's like
I think it needed to be watched at

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a certain time, and that time
was like nineteen ninety five. I don't

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know. I'm not four or against
it. Okay, maybe there's better things

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with your time. Well, I
mean, I found a bunch of bunch

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of bunch of these cases, but
I want to start off with one of

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the most famous ones ever, Wild
Peter. We'll start about going near Help

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Benson in Hanover, northern part of
Germany. Okay, way back in seventeen

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twenty four. Again, I don't
know what this was like, but I'm

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a very acousticy, very dusty,
smoky also imagine a kind of rowdy.

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I don't know. Germany always gives
me that vibe where like maybe it's rowdy

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beer like people are excited and drunk. By the way, Hanover, this

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place is near Hamelin. Yes,
indeed are pied Piper of Hamelin. Uh

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huh, so it's nearby anyway,
Some villagers spotted this naked, brownish creature

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with black hair out there in the
woods, and it took them a little

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bit to figure out that this thing
was actually a kid. About twelve years

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old. But basically they caught him
and they kept seeing these strange things about

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Peter, like, for example,
he walked in all fours. He could

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not learn the language, no matter
how much they tried. The weirdest thing

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is that he ate trees, not
like bite off the tree, but like

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he would rip off the bark and
like eat the sap of it. Huh.

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I don't know what animal does that, but I guess he must have

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learned it from somewhere. Also,
like interesting that was able to sustain him.

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Yeah, apparently he also ate flowers
and like things, you know,

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plants and things like that. But
they eventually taught him to eat vegetables and

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fruits, which was kind of like
his go to things. Yeah. Anyway,

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he was taken to Great Britain in
seventeen twenty six because they wanted to

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see him and stuff like. This
was kind of messed up. I imagine

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it as like they wanted him as
an attraction like, oh, come see

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this, let's come see the fairal
child that eats bark. Yeah, and

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the public was going crazy about him, like they wanted to see him,

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kind of like Justin Bieber in twenty
ten or something. Like that definitely not

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justin Bieber twenty twenty four. Yeah, and I was just like, oh,

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yeah, that's Bebes. Caroline,
Princess of Wales committed to taking care

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of him, like she kind of
took up that role of like, yeah,

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I'm gonna watch out for this guy. She wanted to teach him,

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you know, to speak and to
tell his story, but no it didn't

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work. He couldn't learn to read
or write, which I try to look

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up why, and it makes sense. The first five six years of your

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life is when you can do all
these things and watch you know, what

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your parents do, and you mimic
that she got a teacher to help them

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figure out all this stuff. But
no matter what, even the best teacher

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in the world dinner work. Yeah. There's a few things about him,

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like there was actually a condition called
Pitt Hopkins syndrome, a condition identified only

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in nineteen seventy eight, almost two
hundred years after Peter's death, which are

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evident in the Kirby Cupid's bow lips, his short stature, coarse curly hair,

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drooping eyelids, and thick lips.
Today, there's a depiction of Peter

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in a large painting of King George
the First's court hanging on the east wall

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of the king staircase at Kensington Palace
in London. Well, you know what

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he did pretty well for her being
I don't know, just lost in the

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woods for this first twelve years of
his life, you know. Yeah,

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he actually lived until about seventy.
Wow. His grave is just outside the

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main door to the church in Saint
Mary's Church in North Church. And there

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was something about the heritage, some
type of association like trying to make it,

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you know, so that it's part
of the cultural history of the area.

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So in my books, he made
it. This is probably one of

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the most famous ones that came across. I think this one is the one

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that freaked me out as a kid, because I saw a little illustration of

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it in some book. When we
think of people being raised by animals,

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what animal do you think of?
A wolf? According to an article on

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useless information dot org, where we
get all of our facts basically a sponsor

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of this podcast, here's other story. But Reverend Joseph Singh was out on

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a trip back in September of nineteen
twenty. It was a missionary slash hunting

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trip through the Jungles of India,
and suddenly some of the locals told him

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that there there were ghosts around and
that one of them looked like a beast

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with the body of a human,
and so they asked a reverend to please

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do an exorcism where the ghosts were. So he was like, all right,

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I'll go, and then when he
went up, he saw that it

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was just a huge ant hill.
These things are huge. I looked up

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in Nant Hill by the way.
This thing was like ten to twelve feet

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tall, so it was like a
little mountain and it had holes in it

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and stuff, so like, there's
something there, there's something there. So

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they built up this little thing so
they could go up to the trees and

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look out to it instead of going
straight up to the ant hill. And

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they actually saw something move in there, like something was crawling. And then

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suddenly they see a head popping out
and it looked like a dog. It

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was turned out to be a wolf, and then more little wolves started kind

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of crawling out thinking they were safe, and then when they saw that there

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was basically a hunter looking at them, this jumped out towards one of them

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and was shot and died. And
they say that this was the mom wolf.

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As they kept looking towards the ant
hill, they saw two girls like

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they were probably maybe three years old
and the other one six years old,

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and they were covered in dust.
They acted like wolves, and the two

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girls were named Kamala and Amala.
Okay, so these girls walked in all

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fours and they kept trying to crawl
back into the wild like. They kept

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trying to go back. This is
what they I mean, it's their life,

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right, they want to go back
there. They liked being awake at

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night. They would pee and poop
themselves like anywhere. They liked raw meat

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and panted like dogs. A year
later, Amala got sick, and then

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Kamala got sick. All this time
they were trying to teach them how to

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act like civilized humans, but nothing
was working, and Amala died that September.

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Suppose that she was born nineteen eighteen
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almost three years after she was rescued. Kamala was able to stand up,

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so yeah, pretty cool, and
only one hundred years later she became Vice

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President of the United States. Oh
Man supposedly seeing the reverend didn't want the

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story to get out. Maybe he
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maybe the story didn't add up.
This is my own suspicion here. He

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didn't want the story out and he
didn't charge for admission for people to go

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see kind of like the freak show
style. He was like no, but

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he always accepted donations for the orphanage
she ran, so he would still get

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some benefit off of it. Maybe
not for him directly, but they did

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manage to teach Kamala a few things
though, like she learned fifty words and

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one of the techniques that they used
was to hang her upside down to increase

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her brain power. I mean,
these guys weren't scientists or teachers at around

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fifteen years old. In nineteen twenty
nine, Kamala died and two years after

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that, Reverend Singh was told to
retire, basically forced to retire December of

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nineteen thirty one, and since he
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superiors told him to publish what he
had written about Kamala and Amala, which

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he had been documented kind of through
journaling, but like in the lazy way

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he would get like random sheets of
paper write things about it, but still

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was very document is like one of
the first documentations of feral child's being found

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and what they tried and try to
reteach them something. But still it wasn't

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a scientific paper, right, it
was still just a collection of thoughts,

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I guess journal entries. Four years
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alright, nobody really cared for it. But then this doctor Robert Zing from

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the US, an anthropologist, wanted
to take a hack at it, and

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that's when the story was questioned.
The Reverend Sing said that these girls were

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nocturnal and that their eyes gave off
a blue glare, that the shape of

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the teeth were longer. Basically,
they're like, how is that possible?

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What shade was it? Do you
have any documentation of it? See?

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Now this is where the scientific method
being good right here, because see like

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for your idea, scientists versus paranormal
investigator, imagine something like that. Yeah,

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that'd be great. This one article
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told a different story about how Sing
was taken to see the ant Hill after

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two girls were shown to him who
were living in a cage. So he

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kind of ended up tying two things
together. They're like, oh, by

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the way, let me show you
this ant hill and then they showed them

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also the two girls in a cage, and then he just kind of what

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a pet day he had, or
he like went to a giant ant hill

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and he saw two girls in a
cage and apparently killed the wolf. Well,

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so I have never heard in any
nature documentary. I have never seen

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wolves come out of an ant hill. That is bizarre to me. Yeah,

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there's a lot of weird things because
like some of one of his versions

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of the story was like that he
saved them. The other one, you

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know, he was shown these two
girls in a cage. There's a reason

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why he didn't want to share this. Yeah, he might have just wanted

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to keep a story together or just
stay out of it as much as possible

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after maybe figuring out that he may
have lied a little bit or whatever.

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Yeah, you mean he was put
in charge of two random feral girls.

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Yeah, there might have been something
else going on in there. Yeah.

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All the records that are from this
story are basically from him, So he

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could have just said anything. It's
a tough story to believe, believe was

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still creepy ass. Heck, when
you think about it, I found this

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article of stories that pretty much have
all types of animals in here. This

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case from Uganda, this villager called
Millie Seba who was in search for firewood

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and found a little boy with a
pack of monkeys aw like Tarzan, Yeah

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kind of. They actually found out
who he was. It was a boy,

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John Sasebuna, who was lost in
nineteen eighty eight at the age of

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two when his father murdered his mother
and disappeared. Wow, that went somewhere

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way different. That got dark.
And this happened recently, like he actually

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revisited the monkeys and they made this
photo op where like he went back to

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kind of where he was found and
everything. And there's also this other case

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of a gazelle boy. This anthropologist
from Beasque Country was traveling alone the Spanish

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Sahara which is called Ria Deoro in
nineteen sixty when he met these people,

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the Nomadi nomads, who told him
that they had seen this boy running on

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his own or whatever. He was
galloping like jumping across the fields. And

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he was like, well, that's
weird. I want to see this where

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isy, you know, And they
eventually found him. The boy walked on

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all fours like sometimes he would stand
up and then he would keep you know,

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running in all fours. When he
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do that. He was basically a
gazelle. She try to catch them with

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the helicopter. Uh Jesus, he
was so fast. He was fast.

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He was a fast kid. There
was no record of him ever being taken

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away from the gazelle's he was just
he lived among them. This last case.

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I remember seeing this in the news. Actually her name was Auxanna Malaya

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born on November nineteen eighty three,
and she was found when she was eight

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nineteen ninety one, living with dogs. She barked and crouched like a wild

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dog, sniffed her food before she
ate it, and she would smell things

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from like far away. She could
see things like have those kind of like

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instincts that dogs have. But the
thing is that her parents were alcoholics and

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they were unable to care for her, so they just kind of, you

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know, living in the poor area, she just went out with the dogs

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and in the streets and that's where
she lived, in a kennel behind her

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house. So it's depressing, but
also like speaks to the goodness of dogs.

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Also once again, where these dogs
were like we'll raise your child.

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Robert would clearly try to raise a
newborn baby. I think there was a

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whole news report thing and if you
guys, if anybody out there is interested

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in finding out more Alexanda Malaya,
they try to do a full segment on

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her and trying to meet up with
her father. Again, it was awkward,

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an awkward encounter. Oh, I
bet they try to make a story

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out of it, but there was
I mean, this was the story already,

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like they didn't need to expand it
even more. Where did it happen?

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Ukraine? Oh okay, that's what
I thought. She now like she

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talks about her experiences that she can, you know, she managed to learn.

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I'm assuming she's a massive dog lover. She likes dogs. She actually

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takes care of animals. Now,
oh good. They have videos of her,

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you know, walking on all fours
drinking water out of a faucet,

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Like I don't like seeing it.
What I mean, yeah, it's an

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extreme case of abuse. In two
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they met up with her father because
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father was like, oh that's my
daughter or whatever. That's when they were

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reunited. Wow. And this girl
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my own eyes because I've been told
to have no parents but actually do have

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them. And then the encounter happened, and it was it was awkward.

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They actually have a screenshot of the
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frame and like the caption just says, I have come. But they're standing

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like awkwardly looking at each other,
like yeah, of course, what are

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you going to do? Hug them
the people that abandoned you to dog?

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Yeah, like no. The first
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amazed because I used to think of
how would it be to like live out

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in the woods or like how by
a river? And I know I grew

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up on Tarzan and like the Jungle
Book, uh huh. I want to

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be raised by Blue the bear and
that I think the panther's a good guy

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in that right, I don't remember
or like like you know, have a

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brother that's a monkey named Cheetah like
in Tarzan. For me, I think

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thinking of Pokemon and being out in
the wild with a backpack just starting fires

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and like you know, campfires and
sleeping out in the woods and figuring out

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on your own was really cool.
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of like fishing magazines that I would
take from the dentist because they had a

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stack of them that they're just say, yeah, take them. Because I

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was so into it. It was
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like, this is kind of cool. It creeped me out when I saw

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that there might be kids out there
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Like that got me. I would
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a choice, being a feral child
is not a choice. Yeah, those

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children did not pick to be raised
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thankfully an animal did take them in
for some reason. I've seen videos of

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animals, you know, like the
National Geographic documentaries. Whatever we see like

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a tiger not eating a baby monkey, for example, they just kind of

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let them be. You know,
it happens sometimes if you're fostering animals or

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too. You know, like if
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another baby animal kind of appears,
the hormones will mix and so like you

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know, when a gorilla doesn't smash
a baby that's like fallen into a into

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a you know it's cage and a
zoo or all of a sudden a cat's

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taking care of a duck or a
rat or something like that. You know,

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like there's things where it's like hormones
kick in and it's like, oh

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yeah, Like it makes sense that
like if a little child stumbled upon like

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an animal that had just you know, at the right time, it would

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see it as it's child. I
guess we kind of do that with dogs,

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right. Oh yeah, my son
Roberts just emerged from the womb or

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wherever he was. I don't know
where he was. Well, guys,

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