WEBVTT 1 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:20.280 Hello, listeners, This is Rocky Tee here with the Wristometric crew. The 2 00:00:20.359 --> 00:00:24.719 gardener Michael Grocer's with me, just incredible, was here with us and we 3 00:00:24.760 --> 00:00:29.239 are here on a Saturday night with a quick whistlemetch bite. Mister Gardner called 4 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:32.359 me today and you know, he had something in his mind he wanted to 5 00:00:32.359 --> 00:00:36.039 talk about. And I'm gonna ahead and let him and introduce that to you 6 00:00:36.159 --> 00:00:40.439 right now, Gardner, how you doing? I'm doing great? First of 7 00:00:40.479 --> 00:00:42.960 all. Also, PJ, you might know him, is just incredible. 8 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:46.079 I know him, PJ, and he's a friend of ours. How are 9 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:49.560 you doing. I'm doing great, body, How are you not that at 10 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:52.719 all? Thank you for asking. So there's been a lot on my mind 11 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:58.000 lately as far as the whole NXT working agreement with TNA. Now nobody from 12 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:02.439 TNA is going to the main roster is doing that kind of a jump, 13 00:01:02.479 --> 00:01:04.760 and they don't have that kind of working relationship. However, during the Vince 14 00:01:04.840 --> 00:01:08.799 McMahon regime, you would never have this kind of working relationship. They stop 15 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:15.439 this in the early eighties when Vince Senior was working with the NWA and Dusty 16 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:19.719 and Bruno and things like that. So right now we are seeing something that's 17 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:26.920 very revolutionary to what the WWF slash WWE brand and company is. We are 18 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:34.239 seeing working agreements. These are very important, and we're seeing a lot of 19 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:40.000 talent that I feel might be being groomed to come to WWE. And before 20 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:44.599 that it would be contract tampering. However, if you have a working agreement, 21 00:01:44.959 --> 00:01:49.159 it's not contract excuse me, tampering. If somebody's in the locker room 22 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:55.480 and people are just kind of talking about things, so I'm wondering, why 23 00:01:55.519 --> 00:02:01.840 would somebody release somebody as important as Dolf Zigler, and why somebody as important 24 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:07.800 as Dolph Zigler being to a company not signed with the second biggest company, 25 00:02:07.800 --> 00:02:14.719 but the younger child that could never the little engine that can never make it 26 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:16.080 over the hill in TNA, And all of a sudden, a lot of 27 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:23.560 talented people are starting to sign with TNA, and I'm wondering, is this 28 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:31.560 a gateway? Is something going on or could WWE perhaps be purchasing TNA from 29 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:39.639 Anthem or are they using the talent that they jettisoned off there specifically theoretically to 30 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:44.479 try to find people like Moose, to try to find people like Joe Hendry, 31 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:50.599 who's over, way over. So I want to get the ideas of 32 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:53.159 first, PJ. We're going to start with you because you know Vince, 33 00:02:53.400 --> 00:03:00.159 you know WWE, and you know politics. So what is your aspect on 34 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:07.319 this? Yeah, this is I mean certainly not as it's complex, for 35 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:14.080 sure, But I don't think it's anything as crazy as speculative as many people 36 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:20.719 may think. I honestly believe because I know for a fact that Tommy Dreamer 37 00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:25.280 is you know, one of the heads of TNA, you know, And 38 00:03:25.319 --> 00:03:30.599 what's the other guy that the Canadian guy that help helps run it there with 39 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:37.439 anthem? Oh well, the more they fired him like Scott Demats, Oh 40 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:39.599 yeah, he's been fired for a while. Okay, So well, I 41 00:03:39.639 --> 00:03:44.560 mean, at least I know Tommy Dreamer has connections to the WWE. At 42 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:47.439 least I know that he's always been very friendly and has you know, maintained 43 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:53.319 very good working relationships, so you have that. I just think it's something 44 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:59.560 more along the lines of I think they feel that both sides can benefit greatly. 45 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:04.800 I think it benefits NXT for example, using guys like they have and 46 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:10.039 with some of the ladies from uh, you know, TNA obviously on their 47 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:14.479 shows, and it just it just shows, you know, because the Internet 48 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:17.720 wrestling community has become a very big part of professional wrestling, and I think 49 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:23.759 it's ww's way of embracing it in some term. It does. It's not 50 00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:28.040 a direct competitor. We well know that, so I just think it's a 51 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:31.439 it's just a cool little way to to to get in the business and to 52 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:39.079 to make things happen for everyone. And I think TNA, although whilst I 53 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:42.439 owe, I still believe and I don't know much of the inner workings, 54 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:46.079 but I still believe it'll becoming it. It will be an independent, you 55 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:53.480 know entity. It could still benefit both WW and TNA could benefit in having 56 00:04:53.560 --> 00:04:57.759 this open relationship. I don't think it hurts anybody. I think everybody benefits. 57 00:04:57.800 --> 00:05:00.120 And it keeps things exciting too, you know, keeps us talking. 58 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:05.399 It's good for business, and I mean, at least that's what I see 59 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:12.279 from now, you know. So what do you think Rock Superstar? So 60 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:15.480 you bring up dolphins being that that bridge, and you know, that's something 61 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:19.079 that I hadn't ever thought about. But when you said that, it they 62 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:23.720 made me think of something and that was something that I had never seen before. 63 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:28.600 And this was two years ago. Twenty twenty two, a TNA women's 64 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:32.120 wrestler re debuted in WW in the Women's Word Rumble, and that was Mickey 65 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:36.759 James. But what was significant about this is that she was the Impact Women's 66 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:42.600 Champion. So there had been there's been for years now something in the works 67 00:05:42.959 --> 00:05:46.160 now you know, or quote unquote forbidden door here. So we're starting to 68 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:49.879 see more people come over now to the NXT and they're making the impact there 69 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:55.639 and that is helping NXT beat AW in the ratings. So there's a lot 70 00:05:55.639 --> 00:05:58.839 of significance here, the cross promotion, you know, the legacy and the 71 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:02.399 respect her partips the patient. It emphasized her legacy and wrestling you know, 72 00:06:02.439 --> 00:06:06.480 as a well respective figure and she's made you known impact in both in both 73 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:12.000 companies. So now we're seeing other vestors who have made an impact in WW 74 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:16.079 who are now in Teenaate Likedolf and now he's making in legacy there. So 75 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:20.879 there's lots of unfold here. There is a lot to unfold. And uh 76 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:26.160 so I put it to you guys, first of all, if you're WWE 77 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:31.040 and you're using this open door policy, so you can't tamper with contracts. 78 00:06:31.399 --> 00:06:36.519 However, people can talk somebody's changing next to you and you would know about 79 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:39.879 this. PJ with might say, hey, over here, we make this 80 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:46.839 much. So do you feel that that's kind of like a not contract tampering, 81 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:53.240 but you know there's an inference, let's put it that way, insider 82 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:57.759 trading, Yes and so? And who would you go after because me, 83 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:00.800 I know that they've been after Moose for a long time. And I think 84 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:04.519 that the fact that that that Triple H was not high on Eddie Edwards a 85 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:08.879 long time ago would put him on a back burner. But I'm starting to 86 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:12.360 see a lot of people come back to TNA that were there before took big 87 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:15.639 hiatus. Is like Sammy Callahan, who I think has a lot to offer 88 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:19.160 for w w E because his is NXT run. You know, Slomon Crow 89 00:07:19.319 --> 00:07:26.160 was garbage, and I there are people I think that they could or Eric 90 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:30.720 Young. They hired him in secret over a year ago and then let him 91 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:34.720 go because Vince McMahon was back in power. Now Vince McMahon's not out of 92 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:40.439 power theoretically, but everybody has seen something in Eric Young and that man. 93 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:46.439 There's there's very few people who do comedy and do straight Kurt Angle Eric Young 94 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:54.279 and that's about it. So what do you guys think. I think there's 95 00:07:54.319 --> 00:07:59.519 certain things that go without saying. I would almost bring it to like how 96 00:07:59.639 --> 00:08:05.240 Paul even dealt with WWE in ECW. You know, there were certain guys 97 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:09.480 that were off limits to WWE. You know, it's like listen, i 98 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:11.759 can give you the Dudley Boys, but I'm not going to give you a 99 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:15.759 fan damn kind of thing. And I think it's one of those things where 100 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:18.439 I think, you know, TNA the head brass, like, look, 101 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:22.319 you can't have this guy, or you cannot have this guy, you know 102 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:26.680 what I mean. And it's sort of that kind of working relationship where neither 103 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:33.279 participant is going to kind of stray from that, you know, a friend, 104 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:35.879 you know what I mean. It's almost like, look, don't mess 105 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:39.360 with this, you don't mess with that, and but we could play in 106 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:43.639 this little sandbox here. Sort of that thing I think is going on, 107 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:46.360 and that happens a lot in wrestling. You know. It's almost like, 108 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:48.679 look, there's certain things that are beyond contracts that we're just not going to 109 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:52.960 mess with, you know what I mean. You know that's still lit. 110 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:58.639 Old school stuff still exists. So what do you think rock Well, I 111 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:01.960 was just doing a little of research here while you guys were talking there in 112 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:09.440 Pro Fight will Select. You know, since NX and TENA started collaborating, 113 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:11.919 fans have been buzzing just about all the cossover potentials and like you mentioned, 114 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:16.759 they've been after Moose for a while. We've seen TENA Knockouts World champion Jordan 115 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:20.039 Grace already compete there, and we know that their rumors are out there about, 116 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:22.320 you know, trying to get Moose to WW. That's that's not a 117 00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:28.399 secret. So I think that well, based on what he a little quote 118 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:31.919 from what he said right here, I don't know much about it, but 119 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:35.120 I'd be happy to get an opportunity. I would give one hundred percent of 120 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:43.480 my best effort. So there's definitely the interests of those TEENA starts wanting to 121 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:46.720 get to that bigger station in WWE. I mean, who wouldn't, right, 122 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:50.759 But the potential for WWE to just acquire TA as a whole, I 123 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:56.120 mean that can tens could be another talent poll for them, that little roster 124 00:09:56.200 --> 00:10:00.559 there will be you know, an extra developmental system they could use, the 125 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:05.240 additional development territory providing more platforms for for training and you know, for the 126 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:11.639 future stars. The historical storylines that WW could incorporate with teen A storylines would 127 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:16.159 create the intriguing crossover angles and the nostalgic moments for us, like the longtime 128 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:22.120 fans that we are. The intellectual property that WWW would gain as the rights 129 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:26.159 for TEENA, all that intellectual property they could use, the trademarks, the 130 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:31.000 logos, the merchandising opportunities, uh, just enhancing the commercial offerings, just 131 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:33.080 so much more that they could do, uh you know, market expansion, 132 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:39.840 just the just the library alone. Just imagine the the I'm gonna go off 133 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:43.080 a little bit on the side, imagine all of the video packages we could 134 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:46.679 get of age Styles, for example, from the start, from his teenage 135 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:50.240 days at WWE and that retirement the Hall of Fame. But he is eventually 136 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:58.799 going to get Joe Like, yes, unsung hero right there. There's a 137 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:03.360 lot, there's a lot of people that they could really you know, capitalize 138 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:05.639 on this, like people who've ever seen a w W ree I mean, 139 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:13.600 Joseph Park did you know as as aj Styles interviewer before they got almost So 140 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:18.080 here's what I see with this is the fact that like when Vince was in 141 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:22.279 charge. He didn't want Triple Ah springing indie people like who were sensations. 142 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:28.240 That's how we got our Gargano's and our Champas and everybody else. He didn't 143 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:33.720 want that anymore. And then when he jettisoned all that, he jettisoned Steve 144 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:39.679 William Regal and then they brought Sean Michaels in, and then it was going 145 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:43.840 to be this whole you know, let's bring in real athletes from colleges and 146 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:48.679 everything else. Well, how well have they worked out? I'll wait for 147 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:54.639 yeah, yeah, because almost how well is he doing? Has anybody seen 148 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:58.080 him? Should we put like a nine to one one, like an apbe 149 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:01.120 on him? Because that was going to be the next big giant. So 150 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:05.679 you all of a sudden realize when somebody else comes in who had that vision 151 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:09.159 like Triple H did with the I mean he all he was doing was what 152 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:13.919 Vince did in the eighties. He would buy up two stars who were rivals 153 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:18.639 from independent scenes. Champa Champa and Gargana are a great example, and so 154 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:24.799 is Sammy's Ain and Kevin Owens, Kevin Stein and l Generico. They worked 155 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:28.759 together. They knew it. So you could put it on a big stage. 156 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:33.120 So now you have TNA. These guys have been working together forever, 157 00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:37.840 They've established something, and wrestling fans are down to the hardcore wrestling fan. 158 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:43.360 I believe at this point they are no longer smart and you know whatever else. 159 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:46.480 I mean, Yes, I went to a SmackDown that was embarrassed to 160 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:50.559 be next to the human beings I was next to because they were really dumb. 161 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:56.320 But brass tacks and baseball bats. Let's get down to it. We 162 00:12:56.679 --> 00:13:03.799 are a breed that is at it's all time lowest on viewership. So if 163 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:05.879 you have something that was hot in some other place, you bring it in 164 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:11.879 here to the biggest show, at the biggest stage that you can. And 165 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:15.240 I think that's what's going on with this. And I think like Joe Hendry 166 00:13:15.320 --> 00:13:20.159 is a great person to personify the spotlight on this guy is so over. 167 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:24.519 It's like when Adam Cole came out for the Royal Rumble and they said Vince 168 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:28.519 McMahon didn't believe he would get a pop and the whole place cheered his name. 169 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:35.679 So, PJ, what could you say about something like that? Well, 170 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:39.840 I mean, you know, I've always believed in that power of you 171 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:46.480 know that that impact that you know, that certain whether it's it's comes from 172 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:52.759 an independent source or just a generic what's going on underneath the surface thing, 173 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:56.200 and it happens less and less now, I believe it or not. That's 174 00:13:56.240 --> 00:14:01.639 something we all believed AW could be and obviously it came to show that it 175 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:07.879 could not. NXT's has done a good job of keeping that excitement and you 176 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:13.519 know, some of those wrestlers on the cusp of that. I still think 177 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:16.519 that there's a great opportunity for growth there, you know, I really really 178 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:20.840 do. I think I think with Joe Henry, especially the time is now. 179 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:24.039 I mean, this kid is fantastic. And that's the thing is that 180 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:28.840 if you wait too long to to you know, whether it's with TNA or 181 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:33.480 NXT or however you're going to promote him, I think you have to kind 182 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:37.600 of pull the trigger before you let this thing because sometimes you wait too long, 183 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:43.080 right, and whatever that special thing is loses its grip. So hopefully, 184 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:46.120 you know, I don't know if they're going to do it. I 185 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:48.559 would love I would like it if TNA did it independently of n XT. 186 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:52.840 I don't think n XT deserves to have you know, Joe Hendry kind of 187 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:56.960 blow up on their channel. I think it's a missed opportunity for TNA, 188 00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:01.720 but hopefully they could do something quickly within the next month or so, because 189 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:09.039 you know it's going to happen and hopefully they can capitalize them. Interesting rock 190 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:13.799 Uh, Well, you know, seeing John I want to see him twice, 191 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:16.360 right, he just debuted what was on the eighteenth. This is proof 192 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:22.399 of the partnership with TNA. I mean, we know what's happening. Everything's 193 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:28.200 unfolding here. Uh, the guy has the charisma. I'm interested to see 194 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:31.639 what he has to bring. I'm interested in to see who's next, Who's 195 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:35.720 who's who else is going to be part of that partnership. Well, I 196 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:39.360 don't know what's the next talking point that you had for this topic. Well, 197 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:41.279 I mean, if if you really want to go into it, is 198 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:46.039 like, let's let's look at the Rascals. They reunited. Okay, that 199 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:52.200 that's a really big thing because you know what, one member had some allegations 200 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:56.919 against him. Let me looked at it real quick. Yes, and okay, 201 00:15:56.960 --> 00:16:00.679 so PJ real quick. So you know one member of the Rascals, 202 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:04.440 they're known as MSK because you have to rename everybody. Wesley was going to 203 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:08.159 retire or he didn't know what to do. So they bring in the other 204 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:11.679 two guys, especially Trey Miguel, which is the only guy who never signed 205 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:15.879 over to WWE, and they come out, they do all their old Rascal 206 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:22.960 stuff. They're wearing Rascal gear except for Wes Lee, and that was kind 207 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:26.039 of a special moment. I thought, Okay, like this is really cool, 208 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:30.879 Like I really enjoyed it. But I can't remember what was Wentz. 209 00:16:32.279 --> 00:16:38.000 I think that had allegations against him from his girlfriend of abuse and things like 210 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:45.039 that. This this bringing somebody back to TV like that is almost like bringing 211 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:52.200 back Marty Skull to TV. Not quite that level, but I mean, 212 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:56.559 when you have like allegations against you, even if you're innocent, it doesn't 213 00:16:56.600 --> 00:17:00.799 matter. So this is a big thing. This is a really big thing. 214 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:04.920 And so I loved their whole segment. I love what they did, 215 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:11.960 and honestly, I mean, this is building towards something bigger and those are 216 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:17.079 TNA guys. And something else I noticed is like when they did that, 217 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:22.519 they showed the TNA logo at the bottom of the screen. That is really 218 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:27.200 big. So if they don't have their hand in their pocket. Come on, 219 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:33.279 I didn't see the TNA logo. Yes, I did watch that episode 220 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:37.000 of TENA, but I was here doing stuff. It was also in the 221 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:41.559 background. But yes, to confirm their allegations. That was in April twenty 222 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:45.880 two when Winz was fired by WW because of those allegations. After that he 223 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:52.480 returned to the Indies. He would rejoin Reid and Miguel and they would go 224 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:56.960 back to the TNA and twenty twenty three and then they reunited under the Rascal 225 00:17:57.000 --> 00:18:02.400 banner then and then recent you know, they just re debuted an NXT. 226 00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:06.920 So but I might go back and look at that teenage logo. That's that 227 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:11.400 is big because now they're doing cross brand promotion. Yeah. But when logs, 228 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:14.039 yeah, yeah, they said the Rascals, and I believe it said 229 00:18:14.039 --> 00:18:18.000 TNA. I have a pretty sharp memory, so you know, I do 230 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:23.599 remember back to nineteen seventy seven. So you know, you know what my 231 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:29.680 first memory was. You'll love this PJ. You want to know. Yeah, 232 00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:33.240 So I was on a farm in New York, my grandfather's farm, 233 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:38.759 and I stuck my finger in a mousetrap and my family thought I was special 234 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:42.240 because I didn't make any sound. I just went up to him and put 235 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:47.240 my finger out and I had this mousetrap on it. My mom took it 236 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:49.920 off my finger and then sat me down on a blanket, and on this 237 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:55.559 black and white television they said, live from Memphis, Tennessee, we have 238 00:18:55.680 --> 00:19:00.799 to admit Elvis Presley is dead. And ironically I ended up living there for 239 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:03.240 thirteen years. I went to his house twice. He was never there. 240 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:08.079 Folks, it's true. He does not live in Kalamazoo. We've all heard 241 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:15.400 the rumors. But so I look at the wealth of what TNA has to 242 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:22.880 offer tag teams, tag teams, which WWE is really weak on. I 243 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:26.000 love the fact that ww is actually giving like real tag team names now we're 244 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:33.519 trying to and so I think that what I would like to see, like 245 00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:37.960 even though NWA is owned by Billy Corgan and everything's going on over there. 246 00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:41.799 And that's actually one of the first conversations I've ever had with you on Twitter 247 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:49.240 was about NWA. But PJ obviously not Rocky, but you know, a 248 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:56.680 new version of the Crockett Cup, and so something between TNA and NXT doing 249 00:19:56.720 --> 00:20:02.440 tag teams and doing like a new verse the Crocket Cup. That would be 250 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:04.559 fun. I'd like to see that because if you have a world champion, 251 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:08.440 he gets pinned or so and so somebody else. And the thing about NXT 252 00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:14.160 is you never know when a main roster star is gonna get bumped down or 253 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:18.000 show up. I mean, Punk's been there, seth Rollins been there. 254 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:21.960 You never know, So that could be a lot of fun. And I 255 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:26.440 would love to see like a two day like awesome like the old Crocket Cup, 256 00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:30.079 because that was just that was the one thing you want to see. 257 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:33.720 It's like watching the Super Juniors, right right, Yeah, yeah, I 258 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:37.480 think that's how they do it too, believe it or not. So that's 259 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:41.400 that's something I would like to see. It's something I would I would like 260 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:45.279 to see going forward if you're gonna have this relationship because you could breed great 261 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:48.680 tag teams out of TNA, because they have great tag teams and you can 262 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:56.440 breed great and I think better at this point female wrestlers than what NXT is 263 00:20:56.480 --> 00:21:00.319 doing because these girls coming up now are just generic. Yeah, that's for 264 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:07.039 sure. So the four Horsewomen, that era is gone, so so do 265 00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:11.039 you think they are in bed PJ. Let's be honest. I honestly not. 266 00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:15.519 I really do not. I don't think they are. I think they're 267 00:21:15.640 --> 00:21:21.559 a nice working relationship. I just can't see it. I think since Vince 268 00:21:21.640 --> 00:21:29.480 McMahon has been gone, more things are are open to too, working differently 269 00:21:29.519 --> 00:21:34.000 than before. But I still I still don't think that there's much more than 270 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:37.519 at the surface what's going on. You know, it is what it is, 271 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:41.599 what it is. I don't see anything else. That's just me. 272 00:21:44.640 --> 00:21:48.559 So I'm looking at the t n A tag teams right now. And you 273 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:52.400 mentioned that when you saw the Rascals were not NXT, you saw the TNA 274 00:21:52.519 --> 00:22:00.359 logo. So according to this roster here, no no quarter catch crew also 275 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:04.839 on this roster. So are they signed with TNA. I needed because they're 276 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:12.359 part of the part of NXT unless they literally switched over. That's yeah. 277 00:22:12.519 --> 00:22:18.279 That's Charlie Dempsey and Miles Bourne and Tavon Heights. It's just them three here. 278 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:26.200 But yeah, they're on NXT with well they were with Stevenson or whatever 279 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:30.480 his name was, but he's gone. But you got nymanth Brothers are tag 280 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:33.799 team here, the Hardy's are back in TNA, the good Hands. You 281 00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:38.799 got first Class, which is a j Francis and Whichwan and you know, 282 00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:45.119 just a couple of other teams here. But I mean, so do you 283 00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:51.720 think do you think that that maybe NXT will become or excuse me, that 284 00:22:51.880 --> 00:22:59.400 TNA might become the training ground even lower than NXT. I mean, TNA 285 00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:04.759 could potential a potential training ground, but it won't become official. Put it 286 00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:08.599 that way, what do we watch TNA? Isn't a YouTube thing? How 287 00:23:08.599 --> 00:23:14.920 do people watch TNA? Access TV? Access TV? Because I know they 288 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:18.680 have like the speed tournaments, for example, on Twitter. So if Access 289 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:22.839 TV, if they just would give tena some of ww's production, but if 290 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:26.680 they could stream it on you know, like how they do the speed tournaments 291 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:30.680 for the Speed Championship, or keep it like a YouTube channel or something like 292 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:34.799 that, they could. They could still turn it onto some streaming platforms, 293 00:23:34.839 --> 00:23:38.759 because now WW roll will be on Netflix and then you'll have SmackDown on you 294 00:23:38.799 --> 00:23:42.519 know, you still have it on I guess the USA whatever channel they're going 295 00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:48.119 to be on. But you could have a WW banner across multiple multiple streaming 296 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:52.319 services. That's true. Well, you know, and Access TV dropped New 297 00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:56.000 Japan for a long time and then brought back New Japan for wrestling. Now. 298 00:23:56.279 --> 00:24:00.960 See, I have Sling TV, and I'm not trying to give them 299 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:04.480 ad time, but the point is I have Sling TV and I picked that 300 00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:08.920 personally so I could watch New Japan. That was like six years ago when 301 00:24:08.920 --> 00:24:15.319 Bullet Club was hot, stuff like that, and it came with access, 302 00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:22.319 So just like watching it and everything else, like watching how like TNA kind 303 00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:26.559 of felt apart and everything else, and then how It's resurgences is really cool. 304 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:30.839 But like basically I just got it for New Japan and then New Japan 305 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:34.480 like dropped them for like two or three years and then came back. So 306 00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:38.160 and then anything you watch from New Japan it's going to be like five or 307 00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:44.640 six weeks outdated. But anything you watch from TNA, geez, who was 308 00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:51.000 that? Anything you watch, anything you watch from TNA is going to be 309 00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:53.000 brand new. So I still record it and I still watch it, and 310 00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:56.440 they've had done a couple of shows here in Louisville, but I never went 311 00:24:56.480 --> 00:25:00.640 to it. And in fact, like our channel had Matt, I said, 312 00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:03.039 oh, okay, I might go to a teena pay per view. 313 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:04.519 Sho I do a report on it? He's like, why not? But 314 00:25:06.039 --> 00:25:10.720 I had to work that night. So I do think that there is some 315 00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:15.759 kind of industrial sabotage going on. I mean, it's kind of like idiotic 316 00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:21.279 not to see it. You have, I mean Mustapha Ali, you have 317 00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:27.240 Nick Demmit. I knew it was teddy. You have like a lot of 318 00:25:27.319 --> 00:25:32.960 people who went there and then all of a sudden are just, all of 319 00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:37.279 a sudden, these gateways are opening. It's ambassadors. You send over an 320 00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:42.039 ambassador, an unofficial ambassador. So I think there's more in bed than we 321 00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:51.559 think. Let's see who else is over there. A J. Francis Mustafa 322 00:25:51.720 --> 00:26:00.279 is their TNA Digital Media Champion, even though that was a thing. Yeah, 323 00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:04.359 PJ, what do you think about that title? What the what is 324 00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:10.880 it? The Internet champions things? Yeah, digital Media Champion. Yeah, 325 00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:15.039 I thought it could have been something cool, but once again, I just 326 00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:18.559 yeah, it ends up being garbage. It's it's it's like the hardcore title. 327 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:25.000 It's a decent looking bad but yeah, like a championship, it could 328 00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:30.640 be something that's a sad part if if if they actually did something with it, 329 00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:33.319 you know, make it like a Twitter Acts exclusive. It's not Twitter 330 00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:38.400 anymore X, but something like that. Make an exclusive on your social media 331 00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:42.640 channels. And and make it, you know important, anybody could you know 332 00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:45.559 what I mean? But they just don't take the time. It's amazing. 333 00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:51.000 Even a small company. You would think like somebody would say, oh, 334 00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:57.799 let's make this special. Nope, you know, so you have to you 335 00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:03.599 have to go on to Twitch or some kind of or YouTube live. It 336 00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:07.039 has to be live and see them defend it. Okay. So that's that's 337 00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:11.640 how it becomes special. Whereas just like, what what does it mean? 338 00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:18.279 Like it was like seeing a world championship versus an international championship. Well, 339 00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:21.960 if I have every nation, that means I just don't. I'm not the 340 00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:27.200 champion of the water. Hm. That's that's the things I've always had problems 341 00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:34.640 with is like some of the titles. So yeah, anyway, we should 342 00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:38.319 probably like roll this up real quick. But if you guys can pick any 343 00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:44.720 people from TNA that you would like to take over to NXT or WWE, 344 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.960 who would it be, Oh, pja, you take it. I'm still 345 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:52.759 looking at their roster just just because it's so hot. I have to go 346 00:27:52.880 --> 00:28:00.759 Joe Hendry all the way, only because now is the time for the women. 347 00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:03.720 I'm gonna say Steph d Lander because I have seen some of her work 348 00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:08.960 and she's she's you know, she can work and she can talk. I'm 349 00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:11.960 looking over the roster real quick. Sammon Callahan, I've seen some of his 350 00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:15.599 work. I think he could do very well in NXT. Uh, he 351 00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:22.319 would do well. Santino Moreleas Morella is the the commissioner. No no, 352 00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:23.400 no no, not to bring him back, but he's like there, the 353 00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:27.400 commissioner over there, the manager. Yeah, I think I have reported that 354 00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:33.240 while back on, Uh, Rhino's still hanging around over there. That's funny. 355 00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:37.119 I didn't even know. Uh, let's see who else roster. Cardona's 356 00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:44.079 I love, Yeah, Matt Cardonald's hanging over there. The hardy boys are 357 00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:48.640 hanging over there, Cashido's over there. I mean, it's just Chiles. 358 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:52.039 Alexander he I haven't seen much of his work, but I have seen a 359 00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:56.880 signed he signed. It's official, it's it's I mean, I don't know 360 00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:00.799 if you talked to Maverick, but it's pretty much in the world, like 361 00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:03.920 yeah, Josh Alexander Ethan Page. I mean, they're an amazing tag team, 362 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:10.160 but keeping them separate is good for both their careers too. Those guys 363 00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:15.079 are just amazing. They're both amazing, and you know, I love Cornett, 364 00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:21.440 but he's given Page like a lot of bs. But Page is pretty 365 00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:29.240 good, and Josh Alexander is twenty times better. So I mean, and 366 00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:30.880 I don't mean to cut you off, boss, because I'm gonna tell you 367 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:34.880 right now. I take Moose, who wouldn't. Yeah, I think he's 368 00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:37.960 a given. I was just trying to see some other mc carter's here. 369 00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:44.839 Callahan definitely, because I think as Sammy Callahan, not Solomon Crow and the 370 00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:47.799 goofy. The stuff that they were trying to give him is what they tried 371 00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:53.839 to give what's his name? It was all the stuff that turned into you 372 00:29:53.920 --> 00:30:03.440 know, the the group that throwing them all tough cocktails. Help me out. 373 00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:08.279 I can't think of the name. I'm trying to play it back at 374 00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:18.680 the bat, like when COVID was going like hard, yeah, that the 375 00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:23.319 super Suck Group of Retribution, are you Yes? Yes, I couldn't think 376 00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:29.480 of the name, so yeah, I mean that anyway. The point is 377 00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:33.119 that, like there's a wealth of talent over there, just like there was 378 00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.720 when a W started, Like when they took John Morrison so he could be 379 00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:45.079 the Missus Lackey. One has talent one doesn't. And you know, they 380 00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.920 got Bobby Lashley, which they finally did something with him the way they should. 381 00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:55.920 It was a w or us it at this point. But I see 382 00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:59.279 a lot of contract tampering at this point, I really do. But it's 383 00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:02.319 all gonna be. But any buddy, it's all friends, right, So 384 00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:07.920 yeah, that's just the way I see it. So aside from that, 385 00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:12.359 all right, guys, this is why we're gonna sign off tonight. Everybody 386 00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:22.440 must say a guilty pleasure movie. Oh mean, girls, me too? 387 00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:29.160 What about you, PJ. I'm gonna have to go with one of my 388 00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:34.440 favorite Halloween which Pleasure. The original scares the pants out of me to this 389 00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:37.759 day. Well we talked about that, but I mean, yeah, Pleasure 390 00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:41.640 like you can't. You can't, Like you said, okay, I got 391 00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:48.119 you, I got you a police Academy, the original, nineteen eighties old 392 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:56.359 school. Here you go go. That's fine, son of a fish. 393 00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.640 I love this. I love you guys like this has been a quick shot. 394 00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:04.680 I mean, we got to think about this because with a w or 395 00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:07.920 excuse me, with uh TNA being in bed with n x T, there's 396 00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:12.559 gonna be a lot to happen. And we gotta put our fingers on the 397 00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:16.519 pulse because, like we said, it's not contract tampering if you're just side 398 00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:22.279 by side, right, which is amazing. And if you think about it, 399 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:24.720 and somebody is always going to get hurt too, think about it that 400 00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:30.839 way too, right, Yes, absolutely, absolutely interesting to keep an eye 401 00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:35.400 out for sure. All right, do we want to do any kind of 402 00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:39.839 rapid fire questions with PJ not? Let's say it for the next one. 403 00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:44.160 We h. I want to get this on a wrapped up here so I 404 00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:47.960 don't have to do much editing. That's the truth, all right, all 405 00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:52.920 right, gentlemen, have a great night. Yeah, as soon as we 406 00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:58.000 have another quick topic to talk about, well we'll get together there and we'll 407 00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:01.559 spin it up again. All right. I love you guys, have a 408 00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:07.640 good time. By wait, you can find me at one four at one 409 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.920 four four Captain on X. We're gonna start doing it at the beginning of 410 00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:16.240 the showing. I know, I know, what's my Twitter handle Rockies Club 411 00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:21.240 zero zero seven. There you go, right, and if you need anything, 412 00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:23.000 t mobile. See this man. He's helped me out quite a bit. 413 00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:27.359 Oh yeah, how's the phone? Oh great? Great, there's a 414 00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:29.680 couple of things, but we'll talk about it. Yeah, I tek you 415 00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:31.759 later, all right. PJ signed it off. All right, have a 416 00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:40.680 good night later. Thanks for listening to the WWE podcast. Don't forget to 417 00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:45.720 subscribe on your favorite podcast app so you don't miss a show, or head 418 00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:52.200 to WWE podcast dot com and for all of these shows add free head over 419 00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:59.599 to Patreon dot com slash WWE podcast. Until then, we'll see you next time.