WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:08.240 Breaking down all the exes and oh it's Steve Rivera and jaygin Salves. This 2 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:13.640 is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteenth. Hey, welcome back to 3 00:00:13.679 --> 00:00:16.640 Iron the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, he's Jay. 4 00:00:17.000 --> 00:00:23.600 Now we have kivin with breaking news. Baby sounds not this sounds not 5 00:00:23.640 --> 00:00:28.039 working that one. It wasn't me. But we do have breaking news today. 6 00:00:28.199 --> 00:00:32.240 We do have breaking news today. Okay. Pima Softball has advanced to 7 00:00:32.479 --> 00:00:40.719 round sixteen in the NJCAA Division One tournament after they defeated Abraham Baldwin today by 8 00:00:40.719 --> 00:00:44.920 a score of seven to five. They will play number three ranked or seated 9 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:49.560 Northwest Florida State on Tuesday at eleven AM. So tomorrow at eleven you know 10 00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:51.920 what they're doing so well, we haven't talked to them. I was just 11 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:56.039 gonna mention that since we ended, since the show ended, their last streek, 12 00:00:56.240 --> 00:00:59.479 they've tried to reach the same mark. They have eight in a row 13 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:03.280 now after today, So hopefully, you know, we'll let them at least 14 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:06.159 win twenty seven next time and then maybe we'll try to have them on the 15 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:11.280 show. Good idea. Yeah, congratulations to them. More positive news on 16 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:15.719 the Arizona front, the Wildcats have punched their ticket to the super regional. 17 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:21.000 You kind of mentioned this earlier after they defeated Villanova nine to four, and 18 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:27.200 Arizona Softball this is now their seventeenth super regional and yeah, they play Oklahoma 19 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:32.319 State in four days. I love the way that came together too, because 20 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:37.319 you know, there's all these SEC teams that got into the damn tournament. 21 00:01:37.359 --> 00:01:41.519 And you know I ranted on that all last week. You know, Arizona 22 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:46.040 goes to an SEC school and beats them, and then that SEC school gets 23 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:51.959 beat and doesn't even get to the regional championship game. And how many are 24 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:57.120 left? I think there's still five left, five or six, because there's 25 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:01.560 there's sixteen teams left. How many Part twelve, US three, three, 26 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:07.560 U C l A, Arizona and Stanford, Okay are left. Oregon lost 27 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:14.159 to Oklahoma and Taiwan. Yeah I think it was yes, But you know 28 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:20.639 it's just and in one of the in one of the in one of the 29 00:02:20.680 --> 00:02:23.319 super regionals, that's two SEC teams playing each other. You got Tennessee and 30 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:27.599 Alabama playing each other. Uh, you got Texas, who's gonna be in 31 00:02:27.639 --> 00:02:30.639 the SEC taking on Texas, A and M, who is in the SEC. 32 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:34.800 Stanford is taking on an SEC team in l S U U C l 33 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:38.680 A is taking on an SEC team in Georgia. Uh. And then I 34 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:44.240 didn't even know Duke played softball. Okay, there and they're doing They're they're 35 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:46.000 in it. They're pretty good. Actually, Okay, you got Florida. 36 00:02:46.199 --> 00:02:51.360 I think they upset somebody. Florida Missouri two, three, four, five, 37 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:55.080 six, seven SEC teams are left out of the sixteen. But you 38 00:02:55.159 --> 00:03:00.560 got U C, l A, Stanford, Arizona out of the out of 39 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:05.719 the PAC twelve. You had Oklahoma, of courses in there. They got 40 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:08.120 they gotta play Florida. I mean, I'm Florida State. Excives me. 41 00:03:08.159 --> 00:03:14.759 Baylor's in there against Florida. Duke takes on Missouri, Arizona, Oklahoma State, 42 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:17.439 l C, Stanford, UCLA, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, and 43 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:24.280 Texas against Texas, A and M. Okay. Colton Smith number twenty two, 44 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:30.240 has advanced to the second round of the NCAA Singles Championships and men's tennis, 45 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:36.680 and he will play up against I guess we'll be match sorry up against 46 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:40.840 San Diego's Oliver Tarvey Tuesday, as well, but the match time is not 47 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:46.800 yet out. J Friend also competed, but he fell to seventeenth break to 48 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:52.840 Canon Kingsley in three sets, ending the season. Going back to the softball 49 00:03:52.879 --> 00:03:58.400 bracket, Arizona and Baylor are the only two unseeded teams that got to the 50 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:03.919 Super region. Baylor won on the the Lafayette Regionals. Louisiana was was the 51 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:10.719 thirteen seed in that ole miss who finished last the SEC was in that they 52 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:14.319 and they got eliminated. And Princeton was in that bracket and Baylor came out 53 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:17.319 of that one. So Arizona and and UH Bailor are the only two non 54 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:21.800 seeded teams that made it to the Super regional. We have some football recruiting 55 00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:27.319 news, Yeah, whole bunch man. Arizona has landed former Stanford edge rusher 56 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:31.160 rusher Lance Kennelly as he commits to Arizona today. I know Steve wants the 57 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:34.079 measurement, so I'm go give him measurements. Off the top. He's six 58 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:39.120 foot four and about two and fifty pounds. That's that's one of his airport 59 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:41.920 and probably very smart, right, I mean, if you're going, if 60 00:04:41.920 --> 00:04:44.279 you're coming from Stanford, I'm guessing. I mean, he's got is it? 61 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:46.839 Does he say if he's got just the one year he's got he's got 62 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:51.399 a degree and now he's coming here, So I'm assuming that he's got one 63 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:55.800 year of eliltability to left. Yeah, as he originally committed to the Cardinal 64 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:58.279 for the twenty twenty recruiting class, so he's a part of that twenty twentys. 65 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:00.720 He's probably got his degree, yeah, which or he's getting can't. 66 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:04.839 You can't transfer from Stanford until you have your degree. You just don't. 67 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:09.360 It's a bad business decision if you don't exact bad business choice, perfect and 68 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:12.519 perfect way to put it. A very bad business decision if you do that. 69 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:16.759 Speaking of good business decisions, though, jew Co receiver Jeremiah Patterson is 70 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:20.959 moving on up to Arizona as he's committed here. Uh, the former College 71 00:05:20.959 --> 00:05:27.199 of Sam Matteo receiver is going to join his former teammate Ray Melo Murphy who's 72 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:30.959 also headed to Tucson. He is five ft nine, one hundred and seventy 73 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:34.040 five pounds, and he is known for his speed. Jacob Cowen kind of 74 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:39.120 guy, right, kind of yeah, and there and they're apparently from what 75 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:41.759 I was looking at Easy Deessnert Swarm. They're kind of talking about him filling 76 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:46.120 that slot role of the receiver who went to Washington. Yeah, because Elijah 77 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:55.040 Badger went off and went overdue to fish World. Yeah. Former Miami quarterback 78 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:59.680 or cornerback Demitrius Freney has also committed to Arizona. He was mainly a special 79 00:05:59.680 --> 00:06:01.519 teams from what I was seeing for Miami. But we'll see if he can 80 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:05.920 he can get some play time here and then that's all I had for recruiting 81 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:09.839 stuff. I don't know if you had any, I have any anything else, 82 00:06:09.839 --> 00:06:15.040 And everybody's just still waiting for Caleb Love and UH and Jane Bradley too. 83 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:19.000 Surprised the Bradley hasn't decided to come back right away and in Love, 84 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:23.319 well, whatever he decides, he would, you would have assum that Bradley 85 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:26.680 kind would have made his decision around the time that but we didn't even know 86 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:29.079 he was in Yeah, secretly, you know, he did it secretly, 87 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:34.720 recretly, discreetly. Scottie Shuffler's raiment for his involvement in that incident on Friday, 88 00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:40.160 UH where he was seen getting arrested and then coming back to play played 89 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:43.360 well not well enough on I believe Saturday, though, I got I got 90 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:46.560 told that I kicked him under the bus on on on Friday, saying that 91 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:51.800 he did and buy a cop when when my brother said that he didn't really 92 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:58.079 do anything, and and it's starting to come out that that he really didn't 93 00:06:58.079 --> 00:07:02.199 that it was that it was actually he ate some confusion because what they're saying 94 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:09.560 is that all week long, there had been these cops there directing traffic in 95 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:13.040 front of the in front of the before the accident happened, right all week 96 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:17.680 long, and directing where the where the where the uh where the traffic should 97 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:20.839 go. You're you're a player, you're in a marked pg A car, 98 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:25.480 you go here, And that because of the wreck, that the guys that 99 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:29.680 were there directing all the traffic were not guys who had been there and knew 100 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:33.600 the drill of what had been going on all week, and that Scheffer was 101 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:41.399 just trying to do what he had done all week and the cop was like, 102 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:44.519 no, you're not going over there, and he was like, that's 103 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:47.839 where I'm supposed to go and and then show what happened happened. Well, 104 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:51.519 apparently he just needs you as an attorney to get out of it. And 105 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:58.639 then and then the point was made that, yeah, the cops are trained 106 00:07:58.759 --> 00:08:03.639 to not hang onto moving cars, so what the hell? And he and 107 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:07.319 this guy did and he got dragged. So they didn't have their their cameras 108 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:09.800 on either of the right, he wouldn't have his camera on. So this 109 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:13.959 Scheffler should be owning what city? Uh? Lov Yeah, at least you 110 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:22.240 can get Balola country Club got a discount on tenth place finisher, the key 111 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:26.480 to the country club. So anyway, I thought your brother was gonna say, 112 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:31.639 you know, cops come out. They're full of power. So anyways, 113 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:35.039 and I said, I said, look, Scott, when the cops 114 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:37.639 had stopped, you should stop. And I still believe that, but who 115 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:43.039 knows, just sounds like they're a smart man would but but given the circumstances, 116 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:46.039 maybe it was just you know what, Yeah, he didn't think he 117 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:48.000 had to. Yea, his arraiment got moved back because his lawyer had a 118 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:56.240 scheduling conflict. So nothing nothing to But you did see though that on on 119 00:08:56.240 --> 00:09:00.200 on Saturday, he just I could have beat him. On Saturday, he 120 00:09:01.759 --> 00:09:05.039 was he was far over. After his first four holes on Saturday, he 121 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:11.960 went par double bogey bogey both. So did your brother say, if they're 122 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:15.919 trained not to do that, right, why would he do that? He 123 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:18.679 couldn't be going that fast. No, he wasn't going very fast. He 124 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:22.080 grabbed onto the car trying to get him to tell me, yelling at him 125 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:26.960 to stop, I'm sure, and then he got dragged like ten yards or 126 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:30.120 something like that. That's what five miles per hour or whatever. He got 127 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:31.879 hurt, he got the guy got hurt, yeah, or yeah, he 128 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:35.879 went to the hospital physically. Yeah, he went to the hospital. And 129 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:39.759 that's why that's why they charged him, is because the cop got hurt and 130 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:41.639 I had to go to the hospital. Yeah. Yeah, booked with assault 131 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:46.159 of a police officer. Yeah, he's not again that that's Cheffer is tooking 132 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:50.240 to Probably maybe he won't wind up with anything. They might just dismiss it 133 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:54.240 all. Yeah, but they also might say, well, we're hanging on 134 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:58.159 and make sure you at least get a misdemeanor out of this. That's silly 135 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:01.519 and by what he was saying. I didn't see all of his words Scheffler, 136 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:03.879 but based on what I was seeing on ESPN dot com, it seems 137 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:05.600 like he fell genuine remorse for hurting him on accident. Yeah, yeah, 138 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:09.440 And I'm almost assuming he might do something for the guy if that's a situation 139 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:15.279 that the guy guy. I think what Scotty Scheffer would like to do is 140 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:20.000 to have it just all go away. Sure, he doesn't need to you 141 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:22.759 know, he doesn't need to sue the police department. Rate, He's got 142 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:26.919 all this money in the world, and just I think he just wants it 143 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:30.519 to go away. And now he'll always be remembered for it, right, 144 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:33.240 and they'll be jokes and they'll be you know again. And you know. 145 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:37.519 The funny one that I saw was there was a picture of from the movie 146 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:43.639 Shashank Redeption and it was Tim Robbins and Morgan Freeman just like sitting on a 147 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:48.039 bench or something like that. And the guy posts that picture and says, 148 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:50.759 I'm gonna tell my kids this is Scottie Scheffer and Tiger Woods. Yep, 149 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:58.039 you know Tiger's clothing brand Sunday right that he released. I saw one of 150 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:03.080 my buddies actually posted on his Instagram a screen cap of Scheffler in his in 151 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:05.639 his orange and he posted with a caption that says, Friday Orange or Sunday 152 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:11.639 Red. What's the best clothing brand for a golfer, right now, that's 153 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:13.919 so bad. Come on, man, I know, I know. See 154 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:18.840 that's kicking them all. He's down contextual yeah, fun, all right. 155 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:22.559 So what's probably not gonna go away in terms of legal situations is what Rashid 156 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:28.200 Rice is going through. Now. He has charged with much more serious vehicular 157 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:33.200 issues than Scottie Scheffler is. But he has recently attended chiefs OTAs and he 158 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:37.840 is still obviously going through all the legal Did you start today or yesterday or 159 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:41.000 I don't think he's talking on the media or no, he just said that. 160 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:43.799 It's just saying that he was a participant in the earlier portion of the 161 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:48.960 Chief's off season program where meetings are being held virtually. Yeah, he was 162 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:54.960 arrested this spring. So yeah, that's all. I have a big it's 163 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:56.879 kind of a slow unday. Yeah, well, you know what, let's 164 00:11:56.879 --> 00:11:58.840 get into this little bit. See because I brought this subject up and got 165 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:05.960 four minutes here. Uh John Talti uh wrote a column not a column story, 166 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:13.759 get some research that's on cbssports dot com talking about that the nil market 167 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:18.960 the market for players in football, Okay, just sort of a market range 168 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:22.279 for for for football players. So I'll run through real quick and then we 169 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:26.559 can talk about some of them individually. But said Babe, the general market 170 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:31.759 for a quarterback in common Division one took on Power four. Now for a 171 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:35.279 powerfol quarterback, it's five hundred thousand, eight hundred thousand dollars, which is 172 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:39.360 just nuts. He said. There's some on the outside of that, with 173 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:46.720 the kid that UH is going to Washington right getting school two point one million 174 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:50.120 or something like that, So there's some outliers, but in general, it's 175 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:54.759 gonna cost you a half a million dollars or more to get a quarterback. 176 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:58.000 Now, now let me go on, and then running backs are in the 177 00:12:58.039 --> 00:13:01.480 two hundred and three hundred thousand dollars range. Wide receiver, seventy five thousand 178 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:07.320 to three hundred thousand dollars Offensive linemen, which we've had this conversation a bunch 179 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:09.120 of times, right, But what did they get? Well, they're what 180 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:13.399 their their range is the three hundred and fifty five hundred thousand dollars range. 181 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:20.279 Defensive lineman, two fifty to six hundred linebackers one hundred to three hundred defensive 182 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:28.840 backs twenty five And this is from and I L people coaches, people who 183 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:31.440 are just involved in the market. What type of budget do you think that 184 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:35.399 schools would have for this? It's not the school's budget, remember that. 185 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:37.120 No, no, no, no, no, no electives, that's my 186 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:41.720 point. So the budget of these collectives two million, three million. And 187 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:46.480 let me see this because those fast good ahead of me. Sorry, So 188 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:50.960 you have two million dollars, which is seemingly low, right for a school 189 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:56.360 you got one million? Twenty players get one million dollars. What about the 190 00:13:56.360 --> 00:13:58.720 rest of them? Yeah, you know what I'm saying. How do you 191 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:03.440 div three hundred thousand for one player? Yeah? What if he goes down? 192 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:05.919 Because what I was thinking when he was reading those numbers, I was 193 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:09.039 wondering, do we think that these numbers are going to at all continue to 194 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:11.799 grow or because at some point the bubble has to burst with this and I 195 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:15.519 also have to get this fit point. Yeah, there's the check stole cashing, 196 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:18.799 right, And how many times is mister big bucks Kevin, you're gonna 197 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:22.200 say, here's another five hundred thousand to put it in your kiddy for this? 198 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:24.480 At some point you're gonna say, I don't want to do this, 199 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:28.200 and only one team wins the championship every year. So it's not like, 200 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:31.039 sure, everybody's gonna be satisfied with their return on investment, especially at like 201 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:39.559 the SEC like Power five level. What price victory? I just don't know 202 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:43.840 how long the people who are fronting all this sure are going to continue to 203 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:46.759 do that and not get tired of it. But guess what, this is 204 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:52.600 only for football. This is just football. There's there's baseball, there's think 205 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:54.600 of how many football players? Okay, offensive line market, you know, 206 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:58.720 three hundred and fifty five hundred thousand dollars. Well, you don't just have 207 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:01.519 five, You've got like eight that play, eight or nine that play. 208 00:15:01.840 --> 00:15:05.320 How much is each one of those? Get again to my point, Hey, 209 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:07.600 Jay, where's the money? How much you're getting paid? Two fifty? 210 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:11.200 Oh I'm getting paid four? How did you get that? Yeah? 211 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:15.399 I just don't. I just don't understand where this money is coming from. 212 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:20.159 People who haven't have nothing to do with spec. Yes, yes, and 213 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:24.039 they're loyalty to the schools. I don't know. I don't know, but 214 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:28.559 I thought this this is the first kind of thing that I saw that kind 215 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:31.519 of puts price tags on on everything. Will you if you want to compete, 216 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:35.720 you have to have at least four mil five milli. Yeah, and 217 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:39.600 what did what did the coach coach Dea Barnes tell us there was almost nowhere 218 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:43.840 near near that, nowhere near that. So if you want to, if 219 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:48.120 you want to take a look at this, it's it came out today on 220 00:15:46.840 --> 00:15:52.399 a on a on CBS sports dot com uh written by John tal t t 221 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:56.120 A L t Y talking about this whole market. It's crazy, don't I 222 00:15:56.159 --> 00:16:00.240 just don't know how this can this can sustain. But we'll see. Let's 223 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:03.000 take a break word to come back. 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I collect to coll h 303 00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:45.480 slash with all those jobs that he has slash slash that, Mike, how 304 00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:52.119 are you? I'm doing fantastic, thank you, former interim AD, all 305 00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:56.039 these titles and now a special assistant to the AD. That whole special assistant 306 00:21:56.079 --> 00:21:59.839 thing. It's kind of fuzzy, Mike. What are you doing over there? 307 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:06.720 You do whatever she wants you, as long as I still have time 308 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:11.000 for some golf and good answer the things. Good answer, and you're not 309 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:15.160 you're not sharing an office with Danny Martinez or are you? Well? You 310 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:18.319 know what, I've kind of given it up to him. Nice. Okay, 311 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:21.519 so that means you got better digs? Right, But when I when 312 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:23.559 I need it, I push him out. Okay, all right? There 313 00:22:23.680 --> 00:22:30.079 must be no one more proud of the softball team than Mike Kendrea. You 314 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:34.880 got that right? Well, how so, given given the circumstances, because 315 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:38.279 this team, you know, this town, this town's so fickle. Oh 316 00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:41.440 you can't win, you suck, you win. No one talks about it. 317 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:45.839 Honestly, you lived it, right, I believe me. I lived 318 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:51.400 it every day. How do you end then? Well, you know, 319 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:59.440 I think people that have never been in the dugout game by game, practice 320 00:22:59.480 --> 00:23:03.279 by practic just don't quite understand how tough it really is. And so I 321 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:07.960 think Caitlin has done an admirable job. I mean, this year has been 322 00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:12.240 a wonderful job on her behalf and the staff's behalf to put this team together. 323 00:23:12.440 --> 00:23:15.880 And they're competing very hard. You know, they've the one thing I 324 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:19.200 can tell you right now is they will play hard and they will play smart, 325 00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:25.519 and you know, they just they got to put the pitching together. 326 00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:27.599 And if they can put the pieces together, they're gonna score some runs and 327 00:23:27.640 --> 00:23:33.960 they could be tough. Where have you seen the most growth in how she's 328 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:38.160 you know, handling the job. Where do you think that she's I don't 329 00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:41.240 know if you called the maid the most improvement or made the biggest strides, 330 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:45.960 or however you want to call it, you from where she was when she 331 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:49.799 walked in the door, as as the head coach to how you see her 332 00:23:49.960 --> 00:23:57.359 working today, Well, I think foremost she's been smart enough to understand the 333 00:23:57.359 --> 00:24:00.599 state of the game today with the malytics, and so she went out and 334 00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:07.160 got a couple of people that are very in tune to it and use it 335 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:11.000 to their advantage. And so I think she's always been a forward thinker. 336 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:15.880 But I think the biggest thing about Caitlin is she's just so consistent. You 337 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:18.640 know, she was consistent as a player, she's consistent as a coach, 338 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:22.880 a great leader, a great communicator. And the kids are prepared, they 339 00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:26.680 play hard, and they play smart. So I'm sure that's what you saw 340 00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:32.000 in her when you recommended that she get the job. Well, you know, 341 00:24:32.119 --> 00:24:34.119 I saw a lot of things in her, you know, and one 342 00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:42.839 was her ability to communicate to players. But I've always enjoyed her emotional stability. 343 00:24:44.599 --> 00:24:47.000 You know, she never gets too high and never gets too low. 344 00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:49.720 And I think that's what you see in this team. They never hit the 345 00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:52.240 panic button. They can be down by three or down by four, but 346 00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:56.799 they continue to play hard and come back. And I think that's a trait 347 00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:03.400 of her, you know, and kind of her personality. So very very 348 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:07.240 very proud of her and what she's done and will continue to do. You 349 00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:10.640 mentioned the pitch, and look, this is a very talented team offensively and 350 00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:15.440 defensively, and the pitching is just like it's like a puzzle every game. 351 00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:17.880 Right. You got to put this picture into, you know, at this 352 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:19.480 time, and then we got to bring this picture in. This picture. 353 00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:23.359 How tough is that on a coach to know when to push the right buttons 354 00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:26.599 and when you know when's the right time to take out a picture. It 355 00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:30.559 might be pitching. Well, but something says we need to you know, 356 00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:36.559 well, I make a lot of that credit goes to Christian. He's he's 357 00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:41.759 done a remarkable job of utilizing all of them so they're all prepared to pitch. 358 00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:47.079 But I don't think people quite understand how tough it is when you lose 359 00:25:47.119 --> 00:25:49.640 your number one and number two going into the season, right, you know, 360 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:56.559 I think Anissa has done a heck of a job. Probably has been 361 00:25:56.599 --> 00:26:02.000 the stable force and then uses a couple others to kind of piecemeal games, 362 00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:06.400 and they've given her, given her quality eatings, and you know, they've 363 00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:11.400 been able to get the job done. I'm sure golf cut up satisfies the 364 00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:17.319 competitive juices in you. But your three years removed from coaching, do you 365 00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:21.559 at all miss that part of it? Well, you know, at this 366 00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:23.839 time of the year, it's always the fun time when you you know, 367 00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:30.119 when you get a chance to to put together some memories for kids for a 368 00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:34.400 long time, and it's a time to really have some special moments, and 369 00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:37.319 so yeah, you miss it at this time. But you know, the 370 00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:41.039 one thing I missed more than anything was really practice. I love practice, 371 00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:47.279 and I got to say that I miss hitting a thousand ground balls every day 372 00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:52.519 and getting kids prepared. But I think it's been a good, good exit 373 00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:56.240 for me to be able to do some things that I've always wanted to do 374 00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:59.759 and had the time to do. And in fact, I'm going to go 375 00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:03.880 up and watch my grandson graduate from high school, which back in the day 376 00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:07.759 I'd never been able to do that, you know, And so you miss 377 00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:11.240 all the little things with your family, but the game is always will be 378 00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:15.880 close to my heart. And you know, I had a little surgery last 379 00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:19.759 Thursday, and it was a perfect time because I could sit and watch every 380 00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:23.720 ball game that was on TV. And you know, I do want to 381 00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:27.240 make a shout out to Kinsey Fowler. I think she's a superstar. Oh 382 00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:33.160 I love I love watching and listening to her. She's got great insight and 383 00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:40.000 and I'm very proud of her utilizing her journalism degree for something that now she's 384 00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:42.440 enjoying and I think a lot of people around the country are enjoying listening to 385 00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:45.839 her. Well. Nice, she's doing nice. We had her on the 386 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:49.039 show last week and she helped us preview the you know, the regionals and 387 00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:52.079 stuff, and even then, you know better, for fifteen minutes you could 388 00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:56.640 tell how prepared she is. She's good. She's very good at it. 389 00:27:56.720 --> 00:27:59.720 So let me say, you love or you missed the practice. Do you 390 00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:03.559 think the kids or the the you know, the student athletes you had with 391 00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:07.319 you, they enjoyed going to practice because you loved it so much. You 392 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.559 know, people don't like practice because it's practice. Yes, it's aid Alan 393 00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:15.000 iverson type of thing. But if you made it interesting and competitive, it's 394 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:18.359 a place to be. Oh absolutely, I think you're only going to be 395 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:21.720 as good as your preparation is. And to me, you know, the 396 00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.039 middle of the week Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday was getting you ready for Friday, 397 00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:30.319 Saturday, Sunday, and if you had a good body of work during 398 00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:33.640 those three days, you're usually going to have good results. And if you 399 00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:37.240 didn't, you weren't going to have good results. So I think practice is 400 00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:41.680 something that I spent a lot of time on and I always wanted to make 401 00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:45.799 the game so that it moves, because I think one of the tough parts 402 00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:48.799 about baseball or softballs are a lot of standing around, and you know, 403 00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:52.400 you got one kid hitting and you got a bunch of kids shagging. And 404 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:56.839 I was always looking for ways to kind of engage more and more people every 405 00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:00.079 day. And I think the more you do that, you know, the 406 00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:03.880 better you can develop their database. And I think that's what practice does. 407 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.680 It develops the database that you've got to be able to draw from when the 408 00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:11.480 game starts. So I want to bring something up that I ranted on a 409 00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:15.160 couple of times last week, and I think it towards your last your last 410 00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:17.880 year, last couple of years. You brought up the fact that you know, 411 00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:22.559 the PAC twelve needed to do more to promote itself to help its teams. 412 00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:26.079 You know, when tournament brackets came out and stuff like that, the 413 00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:32.400 SEC got every team in the tournament. And I'm like, I don't care 414 00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:36.200 how good you think your league is, you can't finish last or second to 415 00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:38.960 the last or third to the last and be able to be in the postseason. 416 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:42.079 And that really pissed me off last week. Well when that happened. 417 00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:48.079 Promoters, you know, I mean, when when you've got ESPN as your 418 00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:52.119 your owner, you know they're they're going to have a good shot of getting 419 00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:56.799 more people in and so yeah, I mean we all see it, and 420 00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:00.799 and that's why it's always always feels good. When we we went to Arkansas 421 00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:04.240 and took care of business there. I'm sure Arkansas would pay money not to 422 00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:08.640 see Arizona, you know, moving forward, because we have been a thorn 423 00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:12.880 in their side when we've come there. So yeah, it'll all play out 424 00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:17.200 in the field though. You know, the next couple of weeks are going 425 00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:22.480 to be very grueling games and very well matched games, and you know you're 426 00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:25.680 going to have to get great pitching, timely hitting, and that part of 427 00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:27.960 the game is never going to change, right, right. What makes this 428 00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:33.160 team special? I'm sure you've seen them often enough that you talked about him 429 00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:37.359 to begin the show. But what makes this team special? Well, I 430 00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:42.039 think they're there. They have developed into having a very solid lineup. You 431 00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:47.039 know, one through nine. Any of those kids can hurt you offensively and 432 00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:52.680 can produce offensively. I've been thoroughly amazed with their defense. Yeah, they 433 00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:57.400 played tremendous defense, and Lauren Lappin has been a great addition towards that. 434 00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:03.720 You know, the outfield as good as any outfield we've had. I mean, 435 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.920 they've got great speed, great arms, great instincts, and that's you 436 00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:11.160 know, Caitlin right there. So I think they've they they've taken care of 437 00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:15.880 the little things, you know, they haven't overlooked anything in their preparation. 438 00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:21.319 But they played great defense. They can swing the bats, and you know, 439 00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:23.240 we used to say timely hitting, but now I'm saying timely pitching. 440 00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:29.480 We need to be able to bring them in and and and you know, 441 00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:33.480 get the outs that we need and then give them another look because in today's 442 00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:37.640 game, the hitters are so good that it's really hard to find a kid 443 00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:41.160 that can go seven innings with the hitters getting three looks at you. So 444 00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:45.079 I was an infielder. I love the infielder. You've had some great shortstops 445 00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:48.799 dually standing from way back in the day Espinosa, some of the ones that 446 00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:53.200 were fantastic up that middle, with the second basement obviously being a star, 447 00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:57.240 the freshman the shortstop, and then in the middle. You must be pretty 448 00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:00.920 impressed with you know, just that you talked about the defense, but up 449 00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:05.519 the middle defense, well, I think Taylor Bill has been a tremendous asset 450 00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:08.000 to the infield. She is she's been a lot better than I thought she 451 00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:12.319 was going to be. And the reason why I say that is I always 452 00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:15.599 felt she had good skills, but sometimes you can have good skills and not 453 00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:19.000 be able to make the plays that you need. And she makes every play. 454 00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:22.759 She's got a very quick release, so she makes every play look effortless. 455 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:25.839 And I think her and Alie Skaggs. Ali has improved tremendously at second 456 00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:37.279 base, you know, and then you've got scooping and and third baseman. 457 00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:42.920 Yeah, I mean, she has played a great third base, and so 458 00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:46.799 you know, they they really are. They really have a solid defensive team. 459 00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:52.240 And I think that the new catcher has come in and done a good 460 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:55.079 job. So they're not going to beat themselves, you know, and I 461 00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:58.680 think that's that's a good thing. That They're not going to give teams four 462 00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:01.920 outs an inning, so they just have to be able to pitch the contact 463 00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:07.279 and and make the places and then swing to bats. All right, So 464 00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:10.920 they're haded to they're headed to Oklahoma State for this super regional. What advice 465 00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:15.519 would you have for Caitlin or for the team, you know, going into 466 00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:21.200 this this this super regional on Thursday or Friday, whenever it is they play. 467 00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:22.519 Yeah, well I think they you know, they're not going to reinvent 468 00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:25.359 themselves, so they're going to have to do what they've been doing. But 469 00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:30.279 I think going in Oklahoma State a little bit of a challenge because they are 470 00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:36.920 very good at home, they have a very good support there, and the 471 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.880 thing that you're going to see is a hard drop ball pitcher that you know, 472 00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:44.000 I think all of a sudden, now the game is going to be 473 00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:46.079 played in the ground. I don't think you can sit there and lift her 474 00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:52.559 very much. So I think the challenge is going to be us having quality 475 00:33:52.599 --> 00:34:00.000 at bats, competitive at bats, and then take care of the offensive side 476 00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:02.559 from Oklahoma State because they're a good team. I think it's a good matchup 477 00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:07.000 and I'm looking forward to it. Just real quick question about your new role 478 00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:12.239 or your your current role. Uh. It's my impression that you're you're kind 479 00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:15.880 of like the soothsayer or the the uh, the snatch the pibbole from my 480 00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:20.960 hand type of guy from the other coaches, because you have a wealth of 481 00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:23.400 wisdom in that head of years, whether you know it or you don't, 482 00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:27.440 but you know what I'm saying, they're like that. Tommy Lloyd's and the 483 00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:30.360 younger coaches are going to use this, what about this? What about that? 484 00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:35.559 Well, you're going to give them backward compliments, you know, yeah, 485 00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:40.000 you know, it's it's being able to mentor people. Is I think 486 00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:44.079 something that's really important for any coach. And so you've done it all of 487 00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:49.920 your life, and it's been fun to be able to talk and visit with 488 00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.840 other programs and see how they operate and maybe look at what they can do 489 00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:55.960 a little bit better. But a lot of it is just chatting with the 490 00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:00.639 coaches. You know, they know what they need to do. Sometimes they 491 00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:04.760 need someone that can maybe give them a little ounce of belief, you know, 492 00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:08.440 because as coaches, wes always question ourselves when things get tough, and 493 00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:13.159 so I think it's for me being able to support them more. And a 494 00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:15.360 lot of times it's just throwing a text message after a game saying a great 495 00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:21.159 job. I know how I appreciated that as a coach, and so it's 496 00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:23.639 I'm not reinventing the wheel, but I'm there to help them, help to 497 00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:28.000 support them, and and you know, we have a level of excellence that 498 00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:30.000 we're trying to achieve, and so we want to make sure that our student 499 00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:36.719 athletes are having great experiences and so the only way you're going to know about 500 00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:39.360 that is if you have a pulse on that. And so I'm the guy 501 00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:44.239 that gets to go out and kind of watch some practices and maybe talk to 502 00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:47.880 some athletes and make sure that they're getting what they need. Nice, nice, 503 00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:52.400 Okay, coach, Thank you Mike as always, see you soon and 504 00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:55.800 it's my pleasure. And a little shout out to Chip Hale. I'll tell 505 00:35:55.800 --> 00:36:01.159 you what what a fantastic I'm finished. I was getting a little bit nervous 506 00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:05.639 needing to win one and going down to the last one. But you know, 507 00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:08.320 I think the key to that was his stability. You know, he 508 00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:12.679 talked about what he told the team and basically it was a got have fun 509 00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:16.719 and he took the pressure off the players. And you know, he's got 510 00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:21.480 a lot of insight and he's a great leader. And I'm so proud of 511 00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:24.360 that program right now and happy for them moving forward. So let me ask 512 00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:28.079 you one more quick before you go, because you brought this up. So 513 00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:31.119 we've been talking about this last maybe two weeks and how great this year school 514 00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:36.800 year has been academically. Same for the safe that financials and we won't get 515 00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:39.880 involved with that. But the football team, fantastic basketball teams have done well. 516 00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:45.039 These two programs here, and we're thinking out of ten, maybe eight 517 00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:47.280 point one, eight point two. We moved it up to be happy to 518 00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:52.519 have a championship. So could you talk about just there the great year, 519 00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:54.920 I'll say great year. Yeah. You know, we've got a great bunch 520 00:36:54.920 --> 00:37:00.000 of coaches and they do a great job, and we know how it is. 521 00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:00.840 You know, when you get in a competition, you got to win 522 00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:05.800 the right games. And this year we've been able to do that. And 523 00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:08.360 moving forward, moving into the Big twelve, it's going to be another challenge. 524 00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:13.000 I think it will be a good one for us. But you know, 525 00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:17.960 control you can control. And I don't think people quite understand that we're 526 00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:22.800 not the only one that's having financial problems. And you know, you think 527 00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:27.679 about COVID and you think about n C two, a D regulation. You 528 00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:30.920 know, it's kind of put us you can't operate the way you did. 529 00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:37.559 And I think Desiree understands that we need a new model and she she's working 530 00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:42.960 very hard at putting that new model together. But finance is moving forward because 531 00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:46.639 of the lawsuits Center are being rere pended right now. I mean it's going 532 00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:52.199 to change the landscape of college athletics. Yeah yeah, and then you got 533 00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:53.800 to find a way to deal with it and I l and all that on 534 00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:58.800 top of that. So okay, thank you Mike as usual, Thank you 535 00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:02.039 you batman. Take care to go good. Good. We went a little 536 00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:05.519 over, but yeah, why not? Right worth it and that was good. 537 00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:08.159 Anytime with Mike andre is good. So we love that. All right, 538 00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:10.480 let's take our last break. We're gonna come back and we'll take your 539 00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:14.719 calls. Five to zero four one, six seventy four forty anything we want 540 00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:19.400 to talk about. Spent some time talking about nil and the price tags for 541 00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:22.559 football players, which are incredibly high. But if you want to talk about 542 00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:28.960 that, we can or football or basketbab football, baseball or softball and anything 543 00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:31.239 anything on your mind. Club five to zero four one six seventy four four. 544 00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:35.199 If you're an Arizona Man's basketball fan, you know it's been successful for 545 00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:37.760 nearly forty years. Now, take a look back at the Loudolsen era in 546 00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:40.360 my new book, Lessons from Loot. It was a labor of love through 547 00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:45.239 the eyes of twenty five former players, coaches and friends to give insight to 548 00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:47.639 the coach and the man who led them, competed against them, and inspired 549 00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:52.599 them. 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We asked this quick a lot right, But 591 00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:07.119 now after the weekend, I think you everybody should be I'm up to an 592 00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:13.360 eight point five. You know, if you know, if they go to 593 00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:15.039 the World Series, you know, bumping up another couple of tenths of a 594 00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:20.679 point, then pay attention to what Arizona does the baseball team does. I 595 00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:25.320 think if both teams get into the World Series, you do the World Series, 596 00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:28.760 you get to a nine nine, and then who knows after that. 597 00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:32.599 We're not even including track and field because and golf, you know, golfer 598 00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:37.280 men's golf has to play this week, and you know, and they're you 599 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:38.800 know, they I think they feel they've got a shot at the whole thing. 600 00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:43.639 So there's still some stuff to be played. We still have a Colton 601 00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:45.599 Smith in singles time, right, you might have Yeah, you got a 602 00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:49.119 player playing for this. It's hard to it's hard to judge a TV show 603 00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:51.639 before the season is over. You know, you gotta get the couple of 604 00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:53.159 last episodes, the big finale at the end. You gotta see what how 605 00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:57.599 it ends. Could be a Dallas episode. It could be a Dallas ending, 606 00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:00.920 or like you know, dodn't even know what I'm talking about. I 607 00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:04.800 have heard the show Dallas, Okay, Wow, it was a dream sequence 608 00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:07.920 I watched. I watched a ridiculous amount of television. You are an old 609 00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:12.840 sage guy, like I said, you're the president of Zimbabwe or something. 610 00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:17.800 I even remember, like Mash and all that. You know Mash Yeah, 611 00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:21.559 because he used to be on before w W On U s A and it 612 00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:24.760 was the longest running show at the time. Use kids like you and they 613 00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:29.840 sudden they don't know anything what don Rickles? Who? And I know what 614 00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:35.239 a VHS tape is too. You're the youngest in your group, in your 615 00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:38.239 family, I'm an only child. Okay, wow, you congrautch to your 616 00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:42.599 friend, your your family. I don't know that's a good thing. Only 617 00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:45.400 child. No, you don't act like could say it could be a bad 618 00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:49.239 thing. Yeah, you don't act like one though. Yeah, Jay's the 619 00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:52.199 only child. Even in his mind he's the only child. I think if 620 00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.760 if only child, it was because you know, because there were gaps on 621 00:43:55.800 --> 00:44:00.760 both sides of me. So I was Yeah, I was hit Tolindo. 622 00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:08.960 Tolindo can't do anything wrong until he does something wrong, and then I guess 623 00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:14.639 that in his hand exactly exactly again, if you gotta want to call, 624 00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:17.679 please do where would you rate the program at this point, we had the 625 00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:21.480 who do we have? On last week we had the bar Jason bar he 626 00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:24.519 gave us about the city. Yeah, number one, how could you not 627 00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:29.760 maybe one of the best years in a long time, if not ever all 628 00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:34.159 around in a while, you know, and and and and when you're talking 629 00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:37.280 about you know, they they've had great teams, you know, one or 630 00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:40.199 two sports, you know, in the year. But now there's just been 631 00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:44.960 a lot of a lot of good, you know, high achieving. But 632 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:50.280 we talked about this probably in November October when football was doing really well. 633 00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:54.840 How how we could see this program, the program hold be like the mid 634 00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:59.559 nineties of the heyday, of the heyday and back then though you remember this 635 00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:01.760 years there used to be the top ten, top of the time. I 636 00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:06.320 don't know how and now, but but it has that vibe. Yeah, 637 00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:08.920 it does have that. And and again because you know, you have a 638 00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:13.920 whole I mean, look at look at what Clancy's Shields did a tennis you 639 00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:16.559 know, I mean we're talking backed off championships. You know Greg Hansen and 640 00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:22.880 his calling yesterday, uh ran down you know how many conference championships Arizona had 641 00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:28.159 won in the court you know since nineteen seven game it was like forty something. 642 00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:34.320 Washington State won six six conference championships. It's like, you know, 643 00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:37.400 when you're talking about the incredible number, that high number of Oregon State, 644 00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:40.000 I'm sure wasn't that much higher. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, 645 00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:45.519 I'm gonna dig that up again because it's you know when when you think about 646 00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:50.119 that, well, Arizona has been winning all these conference championships, you know, 647 00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:52.119 for all this time. Well, there's also a reason why Oregon State 648 00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:58.519 and Washington State have been left behind behind because there they didn't keep up. 649 00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:01.480 Yeah, they didn't keep up. Stanford's the gold standard for all that stuff. 650 00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:05.400 Yeah, because they want so many. They would you know, six 651 00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:09.679 three digits, right because of the Olympic sports, right that they just they 652 00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:14.400 just killed on. But you know, I mean when you think about the 653 00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:17.079 fact that the Arizona's got that many, I would like, I never would 654 00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:21.159 have guessed that, right, Or you're too close. I think you're too 655 00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:24.360 close. You're you're the forest through the trees. You're too close. Because 656 00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:28.519 you remember, come on, if you're a competitor, if you're a competitor 657 00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:31.519 and you watch you you remember the defeats more than you do the victory. 658 00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:37.719 Yeah, because those defeats are painful, right right, and they are they 659 00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:40.199 are, But and there were a lot of them, Steve, I mean, 660 00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:44.239 there were just a lot of them. Of course, I'll give you 661 00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:46.800 your biggest moment was the basketball team in ninety seven. Right, you're probably 662 00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:52.320 your second one, although there have been many. Chicago Rosewan come on in 663 00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:55.519 terms of basketball, in terms of you know, the highest of eyhs in 664 00:46:55.559 --> 00:47:02.119 the lower yea that yeah, yeah, that yeah, definitely that that thing 665 00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:09.280 that happened in in fifteen twenty fifteen. Yeah, and you just remember that 666 00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:15.840 and some highs highs you know, you talk about football in ninety eight and 667 00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:19.960 it didn't even involve you guys. It involved the secondary team that should have 668 00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:22.920 had the game played some other time. Yeah, u c LA Miami. 669 00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:28.280 It was, you know, they played that game and whenever in September, 670 00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:31.400 October, whenever it's supposed to things going to be different. Yeah, way 671 00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:36.159 different. But you know it's just I know we're getting, you know, 672 00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:38.880 getting around to the you know, the end of all of this, uh 673 00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:45.280 for you know, for with the PAC twelve being gone. But you know, 674 00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:50.760 I I've liked being in it, you know, and I said they 675 00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:53.559 were never consistently competitive in football, but they had you know, a few 676 00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:58.639 good years. Well, what would you say the biggest biggest win would be 677 00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:02.440 early in eighties when they beat USC with Pac twelve pack peck okay, Pack 678 00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:06.639 ten, Pac twelve. Biggest football victory in PAC twelve, Pac ten and 679 00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:15.440 Pac twelve. I'm actually going to go more late, more later, Morgan, 680 00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:22.960 that twenty fourteen Oregon because because that essentially put them in the Pac twelve 681 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:28.320 championship game, you can make an argument that that was the biggest win. 682 00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:31.679 Uh. Now, you know, if you want to say, you know, 683 00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:36.519 which had a bigger impact. For instance, you know, beating ACU 684 00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:38.480 in nineteen eighty two when ac was getting said to go to the Rose Bowl, 685 00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:43.199 and that was when it was that night that you kind of felt like, 686 00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:45.880 okay, we're going to be okay in the Pac ten, right because 687 00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:51.199 they ACU came in ranked i think fourth or fifth in the country going to 688 00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:52.800 the Rose Ball. If they beat Arizona and then they didn't, you didn't 689 00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:59.000 even mention Arizona had beaten USC as number one the year before, and they 690 00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:02.199 had beaten uc la is number two. The year before that, Well, 691 00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:06.000 I was gonna say, you hadn't mentioned the USC victory. Yeah, and 692 00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:09.360 then the Washington victory Number two, right went when Washington came in is number 693 00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:16.679 one in nineteen eighty ninety two. So there were a whole bunch of those, 694 00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:20.360 but a lot of those were kind of one offs, right where they 695 00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:23.480 had a great win because in the end, the ninety two season, while 696 00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:28.559 it's set up, the ninety three season record wise and stuff, was not 697 00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:31.039 a great year. They lost to crap Ass Baylor in the in the Sun 698 00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:36.400 Bowl, right, they lost to Asu, you know, in the rivalry 699 00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:39.400 game at the end of that year, lost seven to six to So while 700 00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:44.559 they had that great win against Washington, in the end, how much did 701 00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:49.480 it really mean? But that Oregon win in twenty fourteen, you know, 702 00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:53.719 you know they had the cow you know, Hail Mary win and all that 703 00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:57.920 stuff. They got into it. They won a championship because of that, 704 00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:01.159 and Arizona didn't win a bunch of championships in football, you know, I 705 00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:06.840 mean they I think what the ninety three team was technically tied? Has has 706 00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:09.920 anybody done? Has Greg done the top five games? And me? Have 707 00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:13.960 you have? You are still a big list. I wonder if he's done 708 00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:19.199 the Pac twelve only list. I don't know. In basketball, I think 709 00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:22.519 those those are difficult because it happened all the time. Yeah, you know, 710 00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:24.840 back in the mid eighties when they they're trying to establish themselves. Yeah, 711 00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:30.320 as a power. But you know, god, it's it's, it's, 712 00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:37.000 it's, it's it's kind of I guess it. Part of it depends 713 00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:42.960 on what matters to you the most, the win that day or the impact 714 00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:45.800 a certain win might have had. True. Uh, you know, I 715 00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:51.800 I don't know. Oh yeah, I finally find that article where Hanson talks 716 00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:55.760 about the number of championships that it won, but I'd have to go through 717 00:50:55.760 --> 00:51:00.880 it. Who's who's first? Obviously Stanford, well he didn't he and listed 718 00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:06.880 like, oh oh yeah, here it is. Stanford had one hundred and 719 00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:12.360 some more than that two hundred and forty one. UCLA had one hundred and 720 00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:16.599 forty four, Oregon seventy nine, USC seventy four, Arizona sixty four, 721 00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:22.559 us ASU forty five, and they didn't have the rest of them. But 722 00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:27.079 he said Washington State was last with six, so Arizona one, one, 723 00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:29.760 two three, they were fifth, right in the middle. Of the pack 724 00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:30.920 in terms of how many, that's kind of how we but you know, 725 00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:35.880 they won all those swimming titles, they won all those softball titles, they 726 00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:38.719 won all the all the basketball titles. You're looking about eight sixteen right there, 727 00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:43.760 the sixty something Yeah, almost a third of whatever the hell? Yeah, 728 00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:47.559 so you know, hey, what are you talking about? Is that 729 00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:52.760 national? No? This Isa PAC twelve pack ten pack twelve ten got basketball 730 00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:58.239 tons and yeah yeah yeah swimming. Yeah. So you know, I've liked 731 00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:00.639 being in the PAC twelve and Pac ten. It's been fun. You know, 732 00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:04.320 a lot of big games, a lot of great times. I'm sad 733 00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:07.760 to see it go. But you know, you can't say that Arizona was 734 00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:10.400 just you know, and also ran well, it was the best moment you're 735 00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:14.880 talking across the It was the best move back then and it's still it was 736 00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:17.559 because it, like you said, it kind of helped you establish that you 737 00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:22.039 guys could compete with the big boys, right, and you did and you 738 00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:27.360 did yeah otherwise, honestly, otherwise you'd be you and M right, but 739 00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:30.320 with all due respect and you tap r yeah yeah, or you know Colorado 740 00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:35.800 Stadium, right right, that's that's who Arizona was and what and by getting 741 00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:37.800 into the Pac twelve, they rose above right, and they clearly competed and 742 00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:42.400 it's just been great. Well, we'll have more of that. Yeah, 743 00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:45.239 we'll talk to some of the guests that who've through it right, Okay, 744 00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:46.440 all right, hey, thanks for being here today. We'll be back tomorrow, 745 00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:51.880 hopefully lining up some great guests for you. But come back anyways, 746 00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:52.440 we'll see what happens. See you tomorrow.