I'm okay. I just smiled them another to the face. Yeah, she
want to stay singing to your preach. I go with Jake, don't just
try to tell me you love me. You can't keep it. Really,
if you really don't trust me, you come with a real you have up
in the front so you get my meals. I'm conning for the money,
money in the back. Come on with the dank, scriling that tank,
thrilling with the gang you've sitting on the sideline triple. I go to the
whole with a rock like Peppo. Yeah, I'm okay. What up?
And welcome to order every way. It's live on sports dot Com. I'm
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a k D Troy Mario. You got two nicknames Heka Young Cup Chorean Jesus
and Jesus. Jesus feels wildness, saying I don't like Jesus. Well,
what are you more comfortable with? I mean, it's kind of just whatever.
They're both. They're both. It is what it is. I don't
know if either of them are better. Which one are you more proud to
tell your friends? I don't, I don't I don't know. I think
my friends like Jesus better. Yeah, I mean, Jesus makes sense.
Jesus is Korean. Jesus is funnier though, Korean Jesus is funny. Yeah,
they did think the Korean Jesus bit. On the first night Cook he's
ripping the Pnjamin all day. Yeah, I thought it was done for the
day. And then Nick's like, hey, yeah, get over or you
guys were like yeah, let's get over and hop on the mone and they're
like Korean Jesus and I was like, well, here we go. It
just bring I like it because it's speaks up so many more questions, like
you Korean. And then also because you're not Korean though, because you're introduces
that like people, they can see it like the it's like a placebo some
Korean ship. Yeah, Korean ship. You should learn how to speak some
Korean ship. I'm terrible learning languages. I wish you know French as mine
SPECIs of Chinese. You learned Chinese? What I took two years of Chinese
in high school? Really? Where did that decision come from? Chinese?
Someone told me you were Chinese, told you I was Chinese. I do
have naturally squinty. You me too, But I think it's just because I'm
fat. But yeah, I took two years of Chinese in high school.
It's just it was either Chinese or Spanish. How'd that work out? It
was fun. Heused to speaks some Chinese. It's how speaking of other nations.
This is wild. I almost feel like it's like not even real,
but it is. It was on the news allegedly drake security guard got shot
outside of his home last night. There's no good. I mean, I
know you're working out that he's not, like, you know, what the
hell's going with it? No, So, I actually haven't gotten the chance
to dive into this yet. So but I've seen also there's been there's one
of Drake's like owned stores got somebody's spray paint on it. They're not like
us. Yeah, so I'm not saying that it's correlated to the beef at
all. For all we know, it could be two totally separate things.
But at the at the end of the day, Yeah, I have no
information on that. I'm gonna look that up and see what I see what
I can get to about it, but hopefully everybody. Yeah, apparently there
was a drive by shooting and his one of the security guards got got hit
and uh was injured. I saw, you know the meme of Shane Gillis
when he's like, I don't know what the skin is, but he's got
the gun. He's like, it's like Drake when he hears they're not like
us. Outside his saunction two in the morning. People are saying it was
a setup, that they're trying to do that to get the song taken down.
It's just like, uh, I think it'd be more for like like,
uh, I don't even know you thought the bay was gonna let your
disrespect pop. I'm just saying that he is not ready for war. That's
a wild probably aout putting someone's house out there because I could I could also
see being like a rogue fan but actually know because someone actually shots kind of
wild certified pet up, but there'd be no other details. And then like
the type of car, like I don't know, it's just weird that nothing
else came out then, like that's a sketchy That reminds me of like when
Rick Ross got shut up. I was like, there's no and it's the
Canadian news, like, oh, they they came over here. And shot
up Drake's house. Hey, set the door there. They're drive by on
the moose and he was there squirting Maple sir about h of Hooper soakers.
Eh, I don't give a ship about Canada. This time he's throwing you.
It's Drake went because Kendrick lied about Drake having a daughter that we know
of, So you can confirm me. I mean at this point, like
keeping somebody with Drakes money and power can get away with things like that.
So I'm just saying both sides got to prove whether it's falser false. Yeah,
And I mean, as evidence speaks, Drake has already hit one child.
So yeah, Oh, I'm meant to send this video too. I
didn't like and I didn't even confirmed. This is the Fox not someone said
it might have been a film more but was here last night. Yeah you
see the Yeah, I mean that's what happens with Fox. If you've ever
been to a concert at the Fox Theater, that upper deck sketchy is is
all get out, like it's shapes rocks. That thing was moving. Yeah,
I remember I saw I saw the coloring book tour at the Fox.
Is the Coloring book Tour? Yeah? Chance Chance. Yeah, easiest favorite
rapper, Chance three coloring book tour. I saw it at the Fox and
yeah, you turn around and you looked at it was a problem with no
problems. Problem bro ship was fuck rocking like that. That's sketchy. There
was there was Baby Keema like a year or two ago. Remember Saint Andrew's
Hall, a different venue, but there was like cracks in the floor from
the mosh pit. Yeap damn. So, I mean it's just old infrastructure
in Detroit that that needs to be renovated. I'm sure they need to do
it soon before something terrible happens. Dn c n t easy. Everyone knew
what Drake's house like, Yeah, but they know where it was, They
know the Andrews, they know the area. Also, to be fair,
Kanye was the one that first put out like the whole as address. Yes,
and did you see that Google Maps? If you go on Google Maps,
it says it's Kendrick's house, says Kendrick says. It says Kendrick's dog
a minor guitar lessons. Yeah, it's like a bunch of yeah awesome shit
like that. By the way, too, I guess allegedly those are like
really hard to get off too. It was a really hard to remove from
Google, especially like verified reviewers and whatnot. Silkie Johnson says he was at
that concert too. That was his first concert. It was a good concert
as your first concert. That was a great concert me and my boy sad.
Oh He's said about coloring book, the Coloring Book one. My first
concert was Jaco. My first concert was Bruce Springsteen at the Palace. Mine
was lmfao at the Palace. I was like fucking sad or something. Shots
twenty times, shot sex party Rock at Sorry for Party Rock and they were
getting lit. I was having a great time. I was over there,
you know, little lass Kid just fucking you know, gyrating like a dumb
ass. Yeah, I saw Well, I saw Mayor Hawthorne in ann Arbor.
That was my first concert technically, but it was a smaller venue.
And then my first like big ass concert was Bruce Springsteen at the Palace.
My first big ass concert was because Jacob like had just dropped the album at
least yeah, he just dropped the album this first one. But then after
that went to Kendrick at uh Shane Park and then did again Shane Park,
the one by Oakland. Yeah yeah, and then I saw Kendrick somewhere else
too, I forgot where, but we moved up right right to the stage,
and then uh, what's is DJ's name? Yeah, Ali tossed a
couple of shirts, and then afterwards Steve Aoki came on. I don't even
know who he was. I think I told you. Yeah, these girls
were climb on the stage, so I started climbing too, and the security
guard was like, the only way I let you stay up here if you
help us get some more girls up here. I was like deal. And
then so I'm helping them carry the girls whatever. And then uh, they
brought this this like giant fucking uh cake. No, it's like a two
it was. It was like something you go water rafting it. Oh yeah,
and then we start throwing the girls in it, and we started throwing
cakes at them. It was it was a hell of a time. I
didn't eve know who this guy was. I like, yeah, not at
guy. Uh, I went to he was the main event for that one
too. That's like when Kendrick was like coming up, like he wasn't even
like the main min attraction and as rocky at that was, that was right,
Yeah, all right, I was. I don't know if I was
at that one, but I saw Khalifa there as well. Do you guys,
do you guys remember rig Simpson's oil like R I s O. Yeah,
it's like dispensary like yeah, like high grades. My buddy took took
one and he literally was puking in line for the concert. Literally stayed in
the car the whole time, did not get in. It was like one
of those crazy ass experiences, like he was not ready for that, and
uh, luckily he was okay, because in you're if you're in a car
for that long in the summer, like it gets a little worrisome. So
thank god he was okay. Rolling loud was the most of it. But
when it was, there's everybody you could ever want to see. Is Kendrick
Future, Uh, Travis Scott, Lil Wayne, Migo's little Uzi vert Uh,
Joey Badass, Denzel Curry. There's just tons of people. But yeah,
this is the video of Fox Theater upper deck shaking it. That's a
Fox. Yeah, that's that's why. God, Yeah, that's that's sketchy
man. That's that's how the Fox is very terrifying. It's also like while
two is for Ghanna wild like the unity in college are so much like don't
No Stitch and then obviously six nine obvious not popping anymore music at least,
but like for Gunna to come out and just well, gut bigger than ever,
never good like he was. He was never good. Gunna was actually
good, so like that's how he was able to survive the Stitch. Nowgates
I do have, I think in this room just the worst, the worst
first concert, because I didn't go to concerts till like till I was like
fourteen or fifteen, so my first concert was a logic concert, just a
tough out. But the best, the best concert I ever know, unfortunately
is before that smash hits. But the best concert I ever went to I
got to see Damn with Kendrick when he brought out Cole as a historic moment.
I what I regret most my boys at the time. There's three hundred
dollars, which is I mean, still a lot of money, but they
paid to go uh general admission for Kanye and Kendrick back in like once like
twenty sixteen, oh yeah yeah, and like they were showing me the videos
and the Kanye That's that's one show. I mean, I don't know about
now, but I won't pass on next time, just because it's more than
music. It's like the theatrics and everything. He came out like a volcano
and shit like that. And obviously that's when he's wearing like the whole disco
ball mask and shit, that's what Travis Scott was Like. It was during
the Birds in the Trap, uh, when I was out, Yeah,
and so he came out and there's like giant fucking mechanical bird a rowing wild
and like, oh yeah he was that show too. Yeah. Yeah.
Did any of you guys go to Asherold Detroit? No, my boys went
to I went to. That was sick. That was he had a like
adamatronic yeah space man that It was like walking up in the crowd and he
was like flying in the air at one point. That was sick. But
you guys are going to be a hater with this next one. I went
to Lala last year and I'm a big into ADM music, so I actually
passed on Kendrick to go see my favorite DM artists Stronics. That's such a
no. So, I mean my girlfriend really wanted to go, but I,
I mean one of the loud, rolling loud. My boys went to
go like get ready because there's two stages, so they went to the one
stage to like get good spots for Travis Scott and I stayed at the other
stage and watched Future Migos and Little Uzi fort and then went over. I
was like, dude, you guys just missed three fucking and that was like
Dirty Sprite two Future like Culture two Migos and Uzi versus the World lose.
So it's like primes of these guys. It was just like, I just
fuck Joe, bitch is some Gucci flip flops in the middle of Miami in
the summer. Bro it was going nuts. It did I mad turned to
a savage probacks got bad and coming dad. That's when lul Luzibert jumped off
that shipping container. That's what that video is from. Oh you're there,
Yeah he up right? No, he was fine him wow. Yeah,
I mean we caught him. Like I said, the crowd, I was
part of the crowd. I wasn't anywhere near it, but we caught him.
Uh yeah, that that was hype. And but the first concert I
went to Bruce Springsteen at the Palace put on a great show The Boss.
He was like seventy years old, still doing stage dive, still still still
doing Oh yeah, dude, stage Oh yeah, oh yeah. He was
going hard. He do that to catch hitherwise, yeah, break something.
Yeah. But I was up there. I was with my mom and her
boyfriend and there's people behind us and they're they're smoking, and she was like,
you smell that, that's what marijuana smells like. I was like,
oh, all right, yeah, did never smelled that before. I'll be
sure to avoid that smell from no on. But no, that was a
hype concert The Boss, but on a great show. I was at unfortunate
but like it was, it was kind of a big concert. Was last
year? Was it last year? Two years ago? Now? I think
it was last year when Carlos Santana passed out, Yeah, when he was
performing with the Earth winning Fire to it. That was an awesome show,
but like it was, like, that's scary. I saw a BB King
and Buddy Guy at the Fox. That was a great show. The Jimmy
Hendricks Experience. Zach Wilde was playing. It's like a bunch of amazing guitarists.
They play Jimmy Hendrick songs and Zach Wilde, the guitarist for Black Sabbath.
He's one of the best guitarists in the world. He was doing like
playing behind his head, playing with his tongue and ship. It was fucking
sick. That is dope. I don't know if he's ever came here or
not, but Frank I don't want to see Frank live. Frank would be
hype. That would be really hype. My my bucket list is like eminem
is, like it's up there just because I've never seen him. Yeah,
I probably wouldn't go, just because I know the prices would be ridiculous.
But if I get a hook up, but Kanye is Kanye is one that
I really we'll do that to it happens, I'm down. I'm down for
that. I've seen him at Sunday Service, but he wasn't really performing too
much, more so like the player around him, but it was still it
was still lit. Like I've seen Kendrick like four or five times live.
I've seen Big Sean a couple of times. Saw Big Sean. Saw Big
Sean. He brought out Tyler's great Yes whatever. He and nine to five
five had gone. We did the big show of the Joe I saw that
it was dre It was no, it was Kendrick Big Sean, Trey Songs
and Jules. I know he did a couple of them. I must have
been difer because he brought Little Way for sure. Yeah, I went to
the big show that Joe I went to was j Cole, Kendrick Big Sean
and Trey Song. Shot the Big Sean for bringing those guys to the city.
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But before then about what Tyler Boyd. Let me tell you right now,
I know it's not gonna be about the Jared Goff though, damn sure,
God damn right about that one. No, I was wrong. I
mean an Avis. You know we had the beat, not beat, but
we had a conversation that he had discourse in our group chat two weeks back.
This kid, it's him, bro, He's fucking insane. He's like
top five player in the NBA almost like if he continues playing like this all
the playoffs. He is by far the best two way player in the NBA.
It's just awesome to watch him play at the level that he's playing at.
They did that without Rudy Gobert last night. That was one of the
best defensive performances in the past ten years in the NBA. So all you
guys saying the the NBA doesn't care about defense or defense isn't in the NBA,
you missed a defensive performance by the Timberwolves shutting down one of the most
high powered offenses in the NBA this year in the Denver Nuggets. And it
was just awesome watching these guys on the perimeter, the length that they have
on the perimeter, with guys like Anthony Edwards, Nikhil, Alexander Walker,
Jayden McDaniels, you've got Mike Conley, who still got fast hands for his
age, and then the length in the in the interior with guys like Nasried
obviously Rudy Gobert, who wasn't there yesterday but still and Karl Anthony Towns.
It's just an insane, insane combination when you can switch everything because even your
biggs are athletic. When Ridego Beart is not on the floor and it's nos
reed. They can switch one through five. So it's just awesome to watch
these guys play defense. It's fun, it's exciting. Jamal Murray was fucking
heated. He was throwing towels, he was throwing he pads at the refs.
You got Mike Malone screaming in the face of refs like it's just good
basketball, fun to worse. Yes, Anthony Edwards was getting MVP chance in
Denver. He has that he has, he's got or like everyone says it
and then like some people really do have it, people did say about it.
I feel like it's become like dog where it's gonna use too much.
Anthony Edwards has every time the kid has the ball, I'm gonna waiting for
something amazing, even if he doesn't have the ball. When he crossed me,
he was dribbling up on KCP and Reggie Jackson went to try to steal
from him. He did it quick between the legs, literally dropped Reggie Jackson
to his knees. He was on his knees on the court and Reggie like
stood up, walked away at pointed at him, kept dribbling like dude.
The guy is just he's fun to watch play basketball. Yeah, he's the
most he's the most exciting player to watch in the NBA. I'm happy he's
done these two conference and he's only twenty two. Yeah, he's twenty two
years. Like I was wrong there too. I not that Aunt wouldn't get
here eventually. I thought Aunt would be this guy. I just didn't think
it was gonna happen at twenty two. I know everybody was coming in this
season off of the Team USA stuff. This guy's gonna be the guy,
and he's gonna have that Kevin Durant up. And I'm like, he is
only twenty two, Like most of these guys really don't hit that level till
twenty five. But he's there already. And that's scary because you know a
player's prime is to their early thirties. Yeah, so you're talking ten years
of this or better. Yeah, he's gonna be a top three player in
the NBA for a long time to come. It's gonna be like him,
Luca Wenby, when you talk about best player in the NBA after these old
heads like Lebron's getting you know issued out, like Bron's still great, but
we all know that he's finding his end. Same with Steph Curry, same
with Kevin Durant Giannis is dealing with some injuries and stuff to kind of hurt
his prime's fault. It's it's Luca, It's Luka Doncic, It's Anthony Edwards,
it's Wembin Yama, Like these are the guys. This is the next
era of superstar in the NBA. And I don't want to and I want
to add Yolkic to it because Jokic's game, he's gonna be able to be
good for a while. Yeah, because it's not relying on athleticism at all,
So he will still be good in his mid thirties. Like how Steph
Curry is still good in his mid thirties, How bron is still good in
his thirties. Yolkic should be that. Yeah, No, yeah, yok
is a superstar as well. You also, like Jason Tatum is up there
as well. He's kind of falling out of that top tier though, he's
kind of falling into the second tier. So I said, so many opportunities
to like snatch the throat, yes, and he hasn't. And and if
Anythony Overwards does it this year, like that's crazy. SGA is up there
as well with like top tier like this as one of the best scorers in
the NBA. He's top three in MVP voting this year. So NBA is
in good hands even losing some of the greatest superstars that have ever played the
game. It's cool too, Like I mean maybe, I mean when we
will have his own, we'll come to his own at least. But like
you guys mentioned, like it an't only being twenty two like his range in
the last long time. And I feel like the way they're set up right
now the Timberwolves when he does come into is the kind of steps like slow
that down. Yes, with the two bigs they have, I mean,
I'm not gonna lie put money on them the win everything. Yeah, I
don't blame me. Yeah. And I was thinking about doing it yesterday at
like noon. I just didn't get to it because I didn't want to do
my work wi fi. But they very well could sweep the Nuggets, Like
this is not a good matchup for the Denver Nuggets. The Nuggets are like
six and a half. They go like six and a half deep, like
seven deep, while the Timberwolves go eleven deep. Of guys that defend,
play the entire court and hustle. So like the Nuggets, if they want
to win a game, they're gonna have to be sprinting up and down the
court at all times. And they don't have the athleticism or to do that
for an entire basketball game against the Midland. That's the crazy part that their
deep team. I don't care anybody says. Everyone says, like like KCP,
I've always liked KCP. Casey has like the all time record for three
points made in an NBA's final series. Yeah, he has a ring with
them. The Lakers has a ring with like he is a solid piece that
like I said, they they have a solid five or six. But after
that, even Reggie coming off the bench last year, like they're there when
goes off the court. They are one of the worst teams in the NBA.
Like efficiency wise, Michael if isn't in the game, they are one
of the worst teams in the NBA. And like it's it's tough because the
like the deeper teams in the in the West are one through ten. Well,
the Nuggets are like one through six, one through seven of guys that
are actually bringing impacts there's not that Jamal Murray's banged up too though, Yeah,
and he's just getting absolutely clamped. I mean, we should have seen
this coming when Jade McDaniels did what he did to Booker in the last round,
right, Like Booker is Booker, you know, and and for him
to do that, Booker had a terrible series. So we got Devin Bookers.
Well, we got Jayden McDaniels and like he wasn't joking, like was
and it was being serious when he fucking said that, because this is a
guy that will lock down your favorite player. And then you've got Anthony Edwards,
well, yeah, who is a dog on defense. Nikhil Alexander Walker
a dog on defense, and two fantastic shot blocking bigs and Nazrit and Rude
go Beart on the back end, KYLEI Anderson another guy who's long and plays
defense. They're they're a problem many they are. I didn't think their half
court offense was going to be this good. Yeah, but you know what,
I still can't count out Denver because Jok's ability to just always get either
a high percentage shot for himself or somebody else, I think is it is
something that will bold that will bould well throughout this series. But this is
this is their worst matchup by far. This is the one team that's built
to give Denver problems. And we saw that last year in the playoffs.
It was competitive and people laughed about it. But if you watch the games,
you saw that Minnesota actually had something in that series. So I have
a question for y'all. Yeah, how many of you other than me and
Nick think that the t Wolves are gonna win the finals? Is anyone else
hopping on the train with me and Nick here? I just said it?
Yeah, oh all right, I mean I could see it, Like,
selfishly, I want to see Nicks Timberwolves in the finals and just have games
be like eighty eighty five. I've like, just the two best defensive teams
in the league going to seventy. Yeah like that. I feel like that
would be awesome. Man. That would get the old heads who like don't
like the NBA anymore, be like, wow, look at that. They're
not scoring one hundred and twenty points, Like if you had if it was
t Wolves Nicks in the finals, that's literally like the most points scored in
a game would be like one hundred and seventy, Like it would be an
insane amount of defense played. But it's it's tough for me to see a
team that could beat the Timberwolves right now, like they in a seven game
series, with the amount of depth they have and the way they play defense,
on top of having one of the most dynamic players in the NBA,
one of the best scoring bigs in the NBA. Like, we'll see,
We'll see if Luca and Kyrie can be enough to because those are two guys
that no matter how many like Luca and Kyrie are not Jamal Murray or Devin
Booker, they are isolation scorers that it doesn't matter how good of defense you're
playing on them, they are going to get their buckets. So I would
love to see that as the West Conference Finals and just see those guys go
ahead. Yeah, okay, see and I too, which is gonna be
a big test for them. Yeah, I think we wanted to go out.
I think everyone's sleeping on. Okay, see, we got some questions
about that in the future. On something a good hands, dude, It
really is, yeah, it really is. The Western Conference always seems to
be so fucking good. The whole entire life, My entire life has been
that way because all the California teams, all the Texas teams, everybody they
want to play. You want to play in Kelly or you want to play
in Texas. That's fair if I had a choice to go between the Spurs
or the Bunks go to World too, though, like like obviously wuldn't be
throew the Spurs ocase he did what they've done the Timberolves drafted really well.
I was gonna say, it's also it's also luck too, because remember Anthony
Davis was supposed to go to the Bobcats by like odds they had the Bobcats
had the worst record in the league, and then all of a sudden,
you know, he ends up in New Orleans. Like it just the trade.
It seems like the transcendent players just either went there through free agency,
like friends to point out, or they happen to get drafted there. That's
such an l two though, it's just trading Luka Doncic for Trey Young,
like well, well and DeAndre Hunter don't get, don't forget, and like
the that Kings fan that's like celebrating when they draft Marvin Bagley. He's like,
I didn't want Luca let's go. It's like, yeah, yeah,
have you seen the one of the Chiefs fan who Yeah, when they drafts,
Yeah, that guy just looks like kindsight is twenty twenty. But when
I was looking at Luka Doncic and I was seeing him win MVPs against grown
men at like sixteen, It's like, I'm trying to draft them. Yeah,
this guy's gonna be a freak. Yeah, it made no It made
no sense that that guy was that that guy was competing against grown man,
the best player on the court, and you're just like, yeah, well,
I don't know if it will translate, like overseas, he's a six
seven, twenty five pound guard. What do you mean it's not going to
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Let's go. So let's start it right there because we were just gushing over
your boy. He's my favorite player to watch in the NBA. I would
be a flat out Timberwolves fan if you guys didn't have three of my most
hated players in the NBA on it with Karl Anthony Thomas, Rudy Gobar and
Kylie Anderson. But how has this been? Watching this just nuclear rise of
Anthony Edwards. Man, this is this is uncharted territories, fellas. I
mean, this is the Timberwolves we're talking about. We're not supposed to be
good, and what we're seeing is is amazing. It's not even just amazing,
it's dominant. I mean, we're making this Denver Nugget team look silly.
We did that yesterday with we didn't even Rudy Gobert and that's insane.
That's his nuts. It's it's a beautiful thing, you guys. You guys
were nailing it. As far as the defense, they're bringing a whole nother
element, which is wonderful to see. It's old school NBA. It's eighty
five bears. Their defense there, shutting everybody down. And when it's all
said and done, if they actually make a run to actually win this thing,
it's it's gonna be because of that defense, because of that depth.
It's it's beautiful. Anthony Edwards is on a whole different level. Yeah,
it's twenty two years old. Twenty two that's what we've got them saying.
We're kind of just freaking out about that. Congratulations to you for for them.
I think they're gonna be doing a lot amazing things for some time to
come. As you said, like doing that last night without Rudy Gobert.
I mean, the Nuggets are a very very good team, a very good
I mean they're defending NBA champions for christ sake. But I brought you on
your talks with football Man yesterday. We did our all NFC North offensive teams
and got a little bit of backlash. Just if you wouldn't mind, I
guess we'll just we'll give you the detail lines offensive line, right, it's
it's best in football. We'll make it easy that part, you know,
give us the offensive lineman. Although I did have Deris Shaws my left tack,
I will say that he gave some love to Darris Baby. I loved
it. And actually when I saw that, I'm like, where the hell
is Brian O'Neil. Then I'm like, all right, all right, you
got me on that one, penny, penny. I can't complain about that.
What do you make of the rest of that list? Though? I
guess quarterback's a big one we've been talking about. But three guys JJ in
there. I know As is in the rise, but he didn't make it
for me. No, I I thought it was pretty damn close. I'd
like to come on here and sit and whine and complain that some of my
boys aren't on there. I would have went Jared Goff more so, just
Jared Goff. I mean, Jordan Love. We'll see. I want to
see him back that thing up. He had a fantastic year, there's no
doubt about it, I think, but Jared Goff. When it's clutch time,
I'm going Jared Goff ten times out of ten over Jordan Love. So
I would have put Goff on there over him. Other than that, the
running back one was a little bit. It's kind of default because every team
other than the Lions have a new running back this year. So I'll give
you Gibbs on that one just just default wise. Actually, Montgomery would be
a damn close second. We'll see when Aaron Jones comes out this year and
rushes for fourteen hundred yards and shoves it up the Packers ass, we'll talk
next year if he can be on this list. But Sam Laporta too,
I mean, did did you Hockinson wasn't even consideration still he was rape or
what he was consideration? He was in consideration for sure. Hey, Hockinson
was carrying me in fantasy last year. So I had a lot of respect
myself as well. Yeah, Dj Moore, I mean that it's not like
I can come on and say Addison should be over him or Saint Brown.
No way in hell so over on. I mean I thought it was pretty
spot on. There's no way and how the Vikings are getting into your offensive
lineman on here? Packer wise, you kept it to a minimum, and
really, if it was up to me, that one won't even be on
there. And so, uh, it was pretty good less pretty goodles defense
wise, Vikings, I don't think you're gonna have a very good showing.
Yeah, we're doing the defense today, and I can't say that I had
too many Vikings on there. For the man Harrison Smith, Yeah, man,
yay, maybe maybe ten years ago i'd put Harrison Josh tell Us.
But looking at at at what you guys have next year going, you know,
big draft class. A lot some people on this network even were very
critical of the Vikings draft class. I liked it a lot, Like I
think JJ's going to be a good prospect. I thought Dallas Turner is arguably
the best defensive prospect in the draft. And then you got a guy and
Kyrie Jackson that I like a lot as well out of Oregon. How excited
are you about these young guys to come in and try to try to keep
that mojo going for the Vikings, Well, here's the thing like going into
this draft, you know, the Vikings made no secret that they were looking
at Drake May potentially. I mean, the compensation was would have been just
too absolutely crazy. So I actually give quac our GM some credit not just
completely going crazy and giving up potentially four first round picks for him. So
I look at getting JJ McCarthy at ten, and I think that's fantastic.
I mean we were going into this Vikings, I mean, everybody covering the
Vikings. All the inside was we're gonna go up to like five with the
Chargers and give up our two firsts and a first next year end up with
JJ McCarthy. That was kind of the thinking. So to get him at
ten, and I know we gave up some mid round picks, and I
think that's a lot of the backlash with the Vikings is just the compensation we
gave up to go with some of these guys. So number one, JJ
McCarthy, love it. I'm not gonna sit you're in sugarcoat it and say
that he's a surefire prospect by any means. Everybody knows his downfalls. Can
he actually carry a team? Can you do this? Can you do that?
At Michigan they ran the ball. I know all that, But at
pick ten, I'm all in on it. I love it. We'll see
what happens. And then with the Dallas Turner thing, that is to me,
that's just insane. Like to come out of this thing with JJ McCarthy
and Dallas Turner one draft, two guys that were looked at his locks as
top ten. They could have not made another pick and I would have been
fine. Like anything else, is just the cherry on top. So I
get why some people don't like it, just mostly because of the trading around
and losing draft picks next year we don't have much draft capital at all.
But also from a Viking standpoint, we were used to Rick Spielman ending up
with fifteen draft picks every year, and fourteen of them sucked ass. So
I'm all for change, baby, bringing on, bring on the top heavy
stuff. Let's see what Dallas Turner can do. Let's see what JJ McCarthy
can do. And the people uh bitching about JJ McCarthy, I mean,
what is that a third of first round quarterbacks actually pan out, So we'll
see, We'll see. He's coming into a fantastic situation. Absolutely is.
I don't know if he'll start right away, but whoever starts there'll be in
a fantastic situation. I want to talk with. This deepens a little bit
though, because I've been on record saying I think you guys actually may have
gotten better despite the departure of Daniel Hunter. Like I think for what Brian
Flores likes to run, Van Ginkle was a great addition. Obviously, Dallas
Turner could drop into coverage and blitz the quarterback. You guys also got a
lot of people forget about Jonathan Garnard. What are your expectations for this defense
next year. I it's definitely not as sexy as having having dan Neil Hunter,
so we were again less top heavy, but we're more spread out,
more talented. I would say overall, what Brian Flores did with that ratty
ass defense last year should give anybody hope. As far as these guys that
they brought in, it's a lot of new faces on one defense though,
because our whole I mean Garnard, Van Ginkele, Blake Cashman in the middle,
you're bringing bringing in Dallas Turner, Shaq Griffin at corner. A lot
of new faces, but that that's fine. The biggest the biggest issue is
the defensive line, something the Vikings did not address in really free agency or
or the draft, which was probably the biggest head scratcher. But we'll see.
I mean, I think the defense will overall be better, and really
that's saying quite a bit because their defense was actually pretty damn good last year.
And then it comes down to Bryan Flores. The dude's a magician,
he's got a magic wand he didn't even get a single call for a head
coaching job, which sucks ass for him, but for the Vikings fans,
we come to pass for anything better because we need him here and the guys
he brought in are his guys. So we'll see. There were cherry picking
from that Houston Texan defense that was fantastic last year with Grenard and Cashman,
And when you throw a Dallas Turner in the mix, I like it.
And I'm not gonna sit here and say I mean Vikings going into next season,
you know we're not. I'm not looking at this team as a team
that's going to come in and think we're gonna compete for the NFC North.
I'm not saying I mean, anything's possible, but we got to be realistic
with where we're at. I mean, we got a lot of new faces
on this team. We got potentially a rookie quarterback starting, or Sam Darnold
starting, which is absolutely disgusting, but I think we'll surprise a few few
teams with a couple of wins. I don't hate Sam Darnold. I think
there's definitely a lot worse you can you can do a quarterback, especially when
you have your quarterback in the future waiting in the wins. But speaking of
you said guys you need, speaking of guys you need, and guys that
anybody on the face of the NFL world would need. Justin Jefferson still hasn't
got that deal done. Has there been any rumblings about what he's looking at,
what the Vikings are looking at, because it's got to be upwards of
thirty five million dollars a year, I would assume for a player of his
caliber. And how what's the worry factor for you guys, for Justin Jefferson
steal getting done? I think the worry factor is extremely low. So here's
the biggest issue, and I'd love to hear your guys' thoughts on this.
When it comes to the worry is his payday? Like the Vikings are going
to pay him. He's gonna get paid. There's no way in hell that
that's not going to happen unless all of a sudden he's just like, get
me out of here. But nobody sees that he's saying all the right things,
he's doing all the right things. If he was starting to, you
know, be be cryptic on social media or do something crazy, then it'd
be one thing. But it's not. Everybody thinks this is going to get
done probably pretty soon, even within the next week or so. We'll see
it. Seems like when we hit each milestone, it's like, oh,
it'll be after the draft. Oh, it'll be after freege. I mean,
it's getting time now where it needs to get done. I don't think
anybody's worried. But yeah, thirty five million. Absolutely. It's funny because
we actually have a lot of fans like hating on that they want to trade
the guy. I mean, this is this is the world I'm living in
right now, where people are just complaining about actually paying him. I mean,
what are your thoughts? What's justin Jefferson worth? Oh? I think
he's worth whatever he wants to be worth. He's the best receiver in the
NFL. I think there are thirty two gms that would pay him upwards of
thirty five million dollars a year. Yeah, and thank you, thank you.
It's good to hear that because the people just complaining about it. It's
insane. It's insane to me. Yeah, he's I think he's as good
as it gets when it comes to a receiver position. So I'd give him
any amount of money he's asking for and to me, I I wonder what
your take is on it, but I feel like a key to his happiness
is kind of just is it not JJ McCarthy, And like, is there
some sort of do you think they had some sort of sign that he believed
in JJ before acquiring him, because obviously a receiver and a quarterback, that's
the that's the relationship that matters most. So I feel like there was something
there and that's the key to his happiness in Minnesota, right. No,
absolutely, I mean Jefferson was bawling out when he had Nick Bullenstrom on the
ball, so like there's no issue there. When you throw it anywhere around
him, he's gonna catch the ball. I mean, I don't think he's
concerned about j McCarthy whatsoever. I think it's really the opposite side of things
is like they can bring a guy in like JJ McCarthy because they have justin
Jefferson. I think they would have been more aggressive with one of the other
quarterbacks if they knew something wasn't gonna get done with that because McCarthy, I
mean, he's more of the safer type of guy, where Drake may is
just slinging that thing all over the place. So I think I think Jefferson's
all on board. I wouldn't be surprised one damn bit if they said rolled
it by him beforehand and say, look, what do you think about this
JJ McCarthy guy, Not that Jefferson's running the team, but they would be
very smart to do that. Hopefully he did that. Yeah, I think
that's definitely something you gotta do. I mean, he is the franchise speaking
of the quarterback position, what are the lingering feelings with you guys involving Kirk
Cousins, Like, that's my guy, you know, it's Spartan Dog Cole's
Cash Kirk. And it's kind of a kind of an ugly break there at
the end of a guy that I mean, I know everywhere he goes he
says he wants to retire as that at that team, as that guy.
But what's what's the relationship like now with with the fans and Kirk Cousins.
It shows JJ overim, you know, are you're seeing the stuff come out
now where they you know, they put it out there. They weren't going
to give him the entire guarantee that he wanted, and they also said that
they were still going to probably draft a quarterback early in this draft, and
Kirk Cousins just like, no, thanks, I'm out of here. And
then you watch the Falcons go to Michael Pennix, which I still daily have
to change my pants even when I think about that. It's insane. That
blows my freaking mind. And Kirk Cousins has to be losing his mind.
But overall, Vikings fans, nobody can hate Kirk Cousins. If you do,
you got deeper rooted issues. The dude's too damn nice. He's too
He was too fantastic here, he did awesome. We all, we all
love him. But I think it was a pretty clean breakup. I mean
it was pretty mutual, and he wanted some money and he wanted to go
somewhere else and we wanted to get younger. So the whole Penis thing.
I actually feel bad for Kirk Cousins. Man. I kicked the nuts.
I couldn't believe that. I thought they were no doubt taking Dallas Turner and
then yeah, you guys got him, Yeah, yeah, it's it was.
It was crazy crazy. I would I didn't see your guys' reaction when
that, when that pick was happened, but based off of everybody else is
I can only imagine it was definitely one of the wilder ones. And in
my recent memory, I get I like Pennis. It just the selection at
eight just didn't make too much sense unless other teams really liked them too.
I mean, I don't know even even move on from Cousins in Atlanta situation
like you're gonna be in dead cap even when you have like yeah, it
just it doesn't really make sense to me. But I still think they'll probably
win that division this year. Then c South it's a weaker one anyway,
and Atlanta, as much as like as we were have sucked, they're still
like in it to the end of the season. I'm not mistaken last year
too. Yeah, and when Pennix went eight, not only was it shocking,
but it didn't help the Viking scenario JJ McCarthy because that all of a
sudden added some urgency. With a quarterback gone, that team's behind us like
the Broncos Raiders whoever trading up. Now there's a lot more urgency because no
no one, no one in the right mind wanted bone Nicks so h that
That's when I really started to get worried, like, shit, we're not
gonna end up with the quarterback. McCarthy's gonna be gone. I did want
to ask this though. We finally in the divisi DETR Lions finally did it.
Who However, the very next year, it feels like everyone stockpiled up.
You're you guys self included. I don't think you guys are in the
running the way, but you guys, definitely you'll be a tough beat,
you know, as easy was last year. Who do you have one in
this division this year? I guess if you want to even put them in
like an order. Well, I got the Lions for sure. I mean
your guys' draft, Uh, it was was damn good. I mean Arnold
and Rakestraw back to back. It's like, damn, you're just hitting those
needs with a sledgehammer. And then your your your final two picks were two
guys that I absolutely loved and I want. I wanted Mahogany as early as
round four, and then you get him and Makai Wingo from LSU. I
think you guys nailed the draft. The dudes in the middle. I'm not
gonna sit here and blow smoke and pretend I know a ton of boat,
but uh, I think the Lions will will win the North Packers. You
know, I obviously they're gonna be in the running and they're gonna be good,
and they no doubt could could push to to get that number one spot.
I got to see them back it up. I gotta see Jordan Love
do what he did last year. I gotta see those young receivers doing things
that they should not have been doing. And maybe they will, but I'm
not buying into that hype yet. So I would say that, I would
say the Lions the Packers, And then if I'm doing you justice and not
just gonna drink some purple kool aid, that Bears defense is damn good.
With the addition to DeAndre Swift and obviously a Douneza and in the rookie quarterback,
they could actually go go three and then then the Vikings could could end
up last. We'll see with this Vikings offense. Like I said, I
think we could surprise some weeks where all of a sudden, really hooly shit,
I can't believe we won that game, but then all of a sudden
look like a team with a rookie quarterback. So I think it's a toss
up between three and four with the Bears and Vikings, but I think it's
the Lions and Packers one and two. Yeah, speaking of those middle guys,
that that dude we got out of British Columbia. Like, like you
said, I'm not going to sit up here and act like I knew who
the fuck he was before we drafted in. But six eight, three hundred
fifty pounds, ran a sub five forty and has a thirty seven inch vertical,
Like, the dude is just an absolute monster out there. So if
he can do anything, he could be a pretty good offensive lineman. Can
yes, yeah, maybe, yeah, go ahead, no, no,
no, no, I'm just gonna say I just I'm just gonna say again,
your draft was ridiculous. Your your last two picks were dudes. I
wanted both in round four. Mahogany is a not a very nice guy.
Like, that's what we need on our offensive line. We have Blake Brandle
starting at left guard, so have fun tearing him a new one and getting
this putting Sam Darnel on his ass when we play you. Yeah, speaking
of not very nice guys, and in the middle of that defense, a
guy we signed in free agency in DJ Reader. Is he's a load in
the middle of that defensive line, and that is something the Lions didn't really
have last year. Is just that guy that you could chalk in there every
single play at interior defensive lineman. How worried are you about him looking at
that interior offensive line for the Vikings. Uh? No that when that signing
came, I think, uh I was doing a dose of dion. We
were doing a show and he was just hoping and praying for DJ Reader and
you guys ended up getting him. So the week later you got to rub
it in a little bit. No, that's horrifying. Garrett Bradbury can't hold
his own against anybody. He's gonna get pushed on his ass. Uh.
That's why we're still one of the last teams in the NFL that still has
a full back because we need somebody back to help him protect him. So,
uh, yeah, it's it's not great. But luckily you guys also
signed Marcus Davenport. Yeah, we won't have to worry aboard. Yeah,
So I was gonna ask you about that because I know it was a great
experience for Vikings fans, but in just three games he did show up with
two sacks, Like, what was it like when he was actually on the
field. You know, surprisingly, as much as I'd like to give you
crap, if he's on the field, he played damn good. When we
signed him, I went on, we had a Saints guy come on and
we're just picking his brain about Marcus Davenport. Like, what do we get
because we signed him to a one year, ten million dollars in a time,
I was like, damn, it seems like role we're paying for Marcus
Davenport for a guy that rarely is on the field and hasn't really done much.
And he nailed it. He nailed it, and that's exactly what we
saw. He just said he's a freak. He's he's he's a freak of
an athlete. I just don't know if he likes football. And that's exactly
what we saw. I mean when he was out there, he was a
freak. But his injury was I can't remember what it was. And when
they were interviewing, Hey, you're gonna come back here and to come back,
he's like, I don't know, you know, he's just like maybe
we'll see, we'll see, you know, And the coaches were saying,
like, basically, this dude's healthy. We don't know why he's not on
the field. It was weird like he had he had no desire to get
back on the field, He had no desire to play. He was he
was very i'll say, unlikable as a player. But when he was out
there, he he showed up. He showed up. Now, Uh,
one other piece I want to get through before we let you get going on.
I appreciate you taking the time to join us, man, but things
that kind of nasty between our fan basic foot what felt like the first time
in my life, Vikings fans were they're really weird about the the Kirby Jossop
situation. I guess, how do you perceive that and would you like to
apologize for those guys? I guess where we at with the rivalry there?
Things heating up favorite or least favorites. I never not possible, uh Bears
fan Bears. I think it's just a common theme for any other team and
the Bears. We just feel bad for those guys. That's why I like,
deep down when I say that we could finish fourth, there's no way
we're not finishing. Blow the Bears, but I gotta say it. Uh
So when it comes to Packers, fans with Packers will always be the most
hated. The Lions. I will say at the end, I've always been
I've never like had that hatred or anything close to that when it comes to
the Lions, like coming out with you guys. I collab with micro Mike
all the time, deal dos Dion like easy easily the most favorite favorite ones
to talk talk football with. So I will say the Kirby Joseph thing was
was did not help and everyone got their panties in a bunch of vikings.
Twitter is absolutely insane and we will admit that crazy. But as far as
hatred, no, not really, I would say, uh, at the
end, it was it was get the the honeymoon was over where it was
always like, you know, kind of rooting for the Lions. You know
they they've always just been kind of ass for years, and all of a
sudden they got a solid ass team, so you're easy to root for.
But then all of a sudden it's like the Lions also like damn, you
guys knew your out you were good and started giving it back to us,
which is well deserved, but Uh No, it's all good. I mean
there's some crazy ass, crazy ass fans out there. I know you guys
were talking about Alyssa. Uh she she was getting into it with some Lions
fans. Yep. I've had her on the show a handful of times.
She's fantastic, very positive, but also uh now to throw a throw a
punch, which is always fun. There it is. And that's that's what
I wasna ask you. Have you seen the Bulge Army on Twitter, this
Detroit kind of movement of Detroit fans on Twitter that has all these eccentric names.
What are your thoughts on the bulge movement in the Detroit Lions Twitter?
Yeah? I love it man. It's it's entertaining, it's cheap entertainment.
I love this ship. I try to stay out of it. I'm just
more just kind of grab some popcorn and grab a beard and and and sift
through it. I steer clear. But that's what makes it fun, man,
as long as you're not getting too crazy, not getting too crazy throwing
out shots. Uh and and yeah, there's some crazy shit out there,
but uh, it's it's fun as hell. It's gonna be fun this year
when the Lions. Lions and Vikings play because it's a whole new ballgame.
Man, Lions are a damn good team. And if you can't, if
you're not willing to at least admit that, then uh, get the hell
out of here. I mean, you gotta at least talk football and real
and and say the truth. It's fine to say you don't like the Lions,
but good damn good team. Yeah. I think you made a good
point, Like we're finally at the big boy table for real now where we're
not the cute little story like the little brother, like, oh, look
at the Lions, they're doing so well. No, like, now we're
actually we won the division, we got to the NFC Championship game. We're
playing well. And I gotta say same. Same for Vikings fans, Like
I've had my battles with Vikings fans on Twitter, but you guys are infinitely
better than Bears and Packers. Packers are still my number one most hated team,
then the Bears and then the Vikings when it comes to the division.
No, absolutely, look at it, k Vikings fans got to look at
it this way like the Timberwolves. We've been the Lions for years and all
of a sudden, we're showing up, so we can't be no hypocrites.
So uh, if the Timberwolves keep ripping it up, I expect I expect
the honeymoon to be over there and it's not a cute and cuddling anymore.
It's like, oh shit, we gotta beat Ant. He's the next next
man up. So it's it's easy to just gotta spin it that way.
Yeah, that's fair. Appreciate you man. I know you do that great
NFC North show you do every week, and then plug your show as well.
Let people know where they can find more. One bar, Yeah,
one bar and up against Daily Vike. It's gonna be a fun ride this
year. Is it gonna be? Sam Donald, JJ McCarthy, What are
we gonna do? Uh? It's it's gonna be great. But that's how
you can find us. And the number one thing is if the Vikings,
even if they haven't you know, down years, are figuring things out.
The key is Aaron Jones needs to tear up the Packers two weeks each time
they play him. He needs to tear him a new one hundred and fifty
each time two touchdowns. I can see it happening. Hey, that was
a wild trade off to me, Josh Jacobs for over Aaron Jones. If
Aaron Jones gave you everything, Josh Jacobs was gonna give you as well.
Just maybe the health maybe no more about the health situation though, I don't
know does that conshun you Actually we'll see. I mean it's obviously a big
concern. Uh. The thing if he's the dude's coming in motivated. He's
already got Viking. I mean he's he's mildly trolling the Packers fans. He's
got the he's got the purple sombrero now opposed to the Packer one. He's
got purple in his dreads. It's a wonderful thing. So that dude,
he could not ever step on the field. And uh, and it hurt
the Packers so bad it was worth it. Let's go appreciate you, John,
appreciate you so much. Man. I appreciate you guys. Thanks for
having me. Man, of course, it'd always always great to have one
bars man. He is he is a soul. I have said this the
show before. The sole thing like keep me for flying off the deep and
when it comes like that was like the shining light. Yeah, Bears are
still like my least favorite team. I hate the Bears, I hate the
Packers. Not gonna lie to the Vikings fans on Twitter they were they climbed
to number one or two the Twitter that I'm never the Ram. I think
the Rams were worse than the Vikings fans honestly because the Vikings fans like they
there's a reason they can, you know, yes, fair like division rivals.
Division rivals, So you're gonna be a little more choppy. Rams fans
were just fun soft, god, so soft. We did beat the shout.
Yeah, at least Vikings. At least Vikings fans we know they can
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it's good to see all again. Oh, it's always good to have you
on the show. Dude. Appreciate you, Appreciate you joining us. Did
you hear any of our conversation with one bar we had one? I heard
the ending of it. I heard just the ending of it. Like the
last couple of minutes he was gushing about the Lions draft. He was saying,
you know, obviously Terry On and Rakeshaw, it was great, a
one to two punch. But the guys who like later in the draft with
Mahogany and Makai Wingo used to like those are steals. So even Vikings fans
are in LoVa, what Brad Holmes is doing. Yeah, I remember talking
to what shot to one bar right after the draft and he brought up I
think he brought up specifically the Makai Wingo one that was as the one that
he was like, dang, he shouldn't have been available at that spot.
You know, I showed the Viking some love too, you know, I
showed them because I like the Vikings aggressiveness. But my goodness, Okay,
people get on about like what we may not what we gave up last year
for Fromanu, for example, have a third round pick, but he's got
the first round pick and two fifth round picks next season, so maybe they'll
end up with some compicks. But they have like nothing next season, yeah,
really really nothing, and it's tough to see where they're gonna be building
from. But what the Lions are building towards is just a super Bowl.
And we've had this argument. We did our our all NFC North teams,
we did our offense yesterday. We're gonna do our defense today. Easy went
under a little fire for from the fans because he put Jordan Love above Jared
Goff in his NFC quarterback NFC North quarterback breaking. So what are you on
the Jordan Love versus h versus Jared Goff? Easy should get fined. All
right, We're gonna find Jamal Moury was just se I mean, this is
this look, yo, that's just one of those things. Is like even
if you if there was like a sliver of you believe that Easy, it
just can't happen. All right, tune it in. We cannot see that,
all right, that can't happen. I think that breaks bad vibes.
Look, man, you know where I'm at with the whole situation. But
I don't even know to talk on this one. Because Jordan Loved a ball
out like Jordan Love did his thing the second half the season. He was
awesome. I don't like being the guy that like sit here and be like,
well, we just need to see more. But I think we truly
do need to see more because I just think we need to see, like,
what does he look like versus different defensive looks? I thought the first
time we played it. For a second time, he's a completely different guy,
completely different preparation for us, and he was on top of it second
time. So for me, the whole Jordan Loves thing is like, we
just need to see more. And then beyond that, I mean, I
guess it's the same exact thing. We don't even know what these guys are
looking like in the NFL. Part of me believes that long term, JJ
McCarthy's gonna end up being the better quarterback than Caleb Williams. I don't know
if that's just like a bias thing or what, but I truly believe that,
Like we'll look back ten years from now, we're gonna see like,
Yo, JJ McCarthy, Dang, they made it right. Maybe not year
one, we may not even see him that much in YOURY one, but
on the road we're gonna walk away saying like McCarthy stuck with that team Kile
Williams may not have. Wow, is that just like a Bear's quarterback?
But like the Bears never get good quarterbacks because I I just find it.
I think Cale Williams is gonna be stud like everything I've seen him do.
I think he's gonna be really good NFL. Yeah. No, I mean,
look, Kitle Billiams could play like it's it's uh. When I watched
him, like I was expecting like all of like the you know, the
flashity outside of this stuff to be the only thing that stands out. But
it's like now he's like really good on time too. Kileb Williams is legit.
I it is kind of the bearest thing. It's the situation that to
go into. I think that that plays so much into it. But it's
also like more so me just betting on JJ McCarthy rather than like pushing down
kill Williams. I would just bet on McCarthy, I bet on the character.
I'd bet on the person, and I bet that that's like one of
those guys that just down the road. He's not gonna fail, Like he's
You're gonna make it work at some point. Meanwhile, Caleb, I think
there could be just a little more hit and miss with like you said,
the environment that he's landing in. Yeah. Sorry, I was having some
uh headphone difficulties there. What can I ask you this on the Jordan Love
front, Actually don't even want to be yeah, yeah, good? What
is the Packers record if you swap off quarterbacks in that situation? Wait,
like with golf and Love? Is that what you're saying? Yeah? And
last year? What were they last year? Where they win eight? I
would say last if they swapped quarterbacks, what would happen was they would have
been off to a better start last season. I think they would have started
better last season. I thought it looked really shaky for Jordan Love at the
beginning and then the end of the she that's just I think I think Jared
Goff could play really well in the Matt Laflor offense. Like I think his
skill set would actually work pretty well in that offense. You may pull back
on some of the vertical shots that you take, like when they opened up
against US and they just took like a shot down the field. And I
thought where Jordan Love thried was that as the season went on, he was
so good off schedule. Like That's why I give him so much credit man,
his ability to deal with pressure just keep backing up in the pocket and
then just trust that man. He had a super talented arm and he was
just able to fling that thing. Like he made a lot of plays to
give him credit off schedule. I just thought the big difference in the second
half the season was that timing that they were trying to connect on which everything
filed off started to connect. So I think with golf you would have been
off to a much hotter start. I don't know where you would have finished
record wise, because you would have had to tweak some things. But I
will say that what they also have going for them as as many like who
are their receivers, Like we had a lot of questions, like bro,
those dudes were getting open Jayden and Reeves ball, and now I know my
man bass was high on Jayan and reed he was playing his bottle Wick stepped
up like they had legitimate dudes playing really well receiver last season. So I
don't know. That's a tough one. You know, I'm not gonna sit
here and tell you they would have been worse. They definitely would have been
better with with with Jared Goff, we understand that, but how much better
I don't know. I agree. I said they'd be probably right around the
same because when he asked me, I think they would have structured the offense
differently to play to Jared Goff's strength. And I like that quartette of wide
receivers they have, I think are very solid. But uh, the last
saw I was like the offensive line. Their offensive line was ass That's why
Jordan Worriy was like their first pick. Right, Like, we know our
guy, as much as we love them, under address isn't the best unless
he's got that offense like the back of his hand like it does now thet
before. It doesn't run a nice offense. But watching Jordan Love play last
year, there was a lot of hero ball, which we know it's not
our guys. Strong suit, still our guy, still our guy. Yeah,
well, so that's actually funny you say, because like right before I
got off, I was gonna say the Packers' offensive line on paper is like
way worse than ours. And I won't say that their offensive line comparistars like
you said, they just haded Jordan Morgan, but they do find a way
to just make it work. And I think the big thing that stands out
there is that they hide their offensive line really well. And I think they
do it with it schematically, like it's almost you can almost like at times
field the kind of same thing with San fran with Rock Purty, whereas like
his legs could kind of like hide that offensive line, and we saw that
in the second half. Credit to Purty, he was just taking off all
over the place. And I think Jordan Love had some of that in him
last season, where like Easy said, like he was able to just backpedal
make passes and it was like you can kind of minimize that. But I
also think that we saw in the first time we played Jordan Love and he
saw the pressure that we had and it was like, man, they can't
block anything. We were just all over him. Second time we played them,
and that balls getting out quick and it was quick, And to me,
that was that that is the specific game of the example of that's why
we needed cornerback help, Like we needed cornerback help because of that team and
playing that team in the fact that every time I went to zone it was
a completion. Every time I went to man about half the time of completion
half the time it wasn't. So it's like if we could have just lived
in that, I think the whole game could have looked different, but that's
kind of besides the point for sure. And when Easy Easy he had to
go take care of business yesterday and I KG filled in for him for the
second half, and we brought up who we think is going to take the
biggest leap on the Lions from last year to this year, And I brought
up Kirby Joseph because of what we've seen him do already as a playmaker in
that back end, adding guys who are sticky in coverage like Carlton Davis and
Meet Robertson, Taryon Arnold, that is Ragshaw that he doesn't have to worry
about kind of making up for their mistakes. I think Kirby Joseph is really
going to shine, and he even has the potential to lead the league in
interceptions next year. What's your thoughts on Kirby Joseph's boom next year and what
I think he could do? Okay, So then I missed the beginning of
that conversation with one bar there because I heard him talking about Kirby Joseph.
I actually loved that pick. By the way, that's that's a great because
even last year, like in a way you kind of felt like was he
taking a little bit of a step back this last season and people will question
like is he get too aggressive? Then when he had ceed douson a mixer,
it was just like it was unclear at times who was even the other
safety, Like if he took off, so it's like who's the other safety?
There feels like there's a rotation here. So I love that though,
because you're right, like he hasn't lost that ability. I mean, he
had the surgery, the soft seasons, hopefully he's coming back healthier, things
like that, but he hasn't lost that ability to have the range that he
has in the back end. And what he clicked for me was that he
showed real ability to step down and play man coverage like I thought, like
with Walker for a long time, it was like that's something we're trying to
add to his game because we want that flexibility and if he just has that
kind of naturally because he was a corner, but Kirby Joseph's ability to carry
that immediately over was there. But where he separates for us already is like
you said, he's taking the football away from Rogers. He had the range,
I mean, he looked natural back there. He had some savvy to
his game. I loved that pick. I love that pick. Actually it's
a good one. Yeah, Dean, we did our like he said,
you know, our all NFC North team. I feel like the offen is
pretty spot on. Outside. Have obviously had the arguments with the quarterback.
Yeah, arts were exactly the same except for the quarterback. Yeah was there
no, because I know exactly where Hawkins and Laporter. You're taking Laporta in
that situation too, I would take Laporta. Yeah, yeah, you guys
took Reporter right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we did. What about
the running back situation? I mean they had you know, they still got
Aaron Jones. Josh Jacobs has brought him too. The mix we both had
Jamiir Gibbs. But are you going with him as well? Oh yeah,
that's a tough one. I mean Josh Jacobs, Josh Jacobs is legit man.
Josh Jacobs makes that thing interesting because to me, Jamier Gibbs had so
many things that we didn't tap into last season. Like I mean, if
you look, if you were going based on what has he done for me
so far, I think you'd have to go Jacobs. But for what you
guys are saying, you're for saying for next season, Yeah, I think
you go with Jamiir Gibbs because of how he finished it, like like as
a running back, just to vision the patients. It seemed to kind of
come along. But then it was just the flashes. It's like, why
don't we use this guy more in the pass game? Like I for so,
I was just like, why don't we throw this guy at the Balltimore,
And then we started to into the playoffs, it was like, oh
my goodness, this guy's incredible there too. So I like that pick going
forward. I think what they've done so far though, you'd probably go Jacobs
Jacobs. Yeah, I'm sit thinking Gibbs. He doesn't like Josh Jacobs at
all. I think he's I think he's he's just like he's not great.
I don't understand like the hyper on him at all. Really don't Undertand okay,
easy vote, but to what you just brought up up out their offensive
line, like the offensive line that he's been behind recently and what he's done
with that offensive I mean, he's the guy that makes that thing go.
In my opinion, for the whole run game, I'm with you, on
Gibbs going forward. I just think what they've done, you could go go
Josh Jacobs. Yeah. I guess when I did my list, I was
going up because like the way you do all pro is like that season.
So the way I did my list was off of like the twenty twenty two
season, and the way Jordan Love the end of that season was like scary
for those lines fans. He looks good, damn good at the end of
the year. Last year. I just don't see that you use this offensive
line and like it's not nasty. That's I have the same argument with you
as you Diana, like I need to see him do it again. That's
fair. I need to see, like we've seen a lot of quarterbacks come
in, have one great year and then kind of fizzle, because once the
league gets, you know, a full year of tape on you, it's
definitely a different beast out there. So I need to see Jordan Love do
it again before I'm gonna put him over golf. That's absolutely that's fair.
My whole thing. I'm obviously rob the numbers, the touchdowns turnovers, and
then like Lion's better offensive line, it's better offensive weapons. Were running back
receivers and tight end like you'd cook. Do you have anything you say real
quickly on I apologize? No, I'm good on that. Yeah. Do
you care if we go to break real quick and come back go for it?
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We are joined by Dosa Dion. I'm Easy, Spinmo Racks. Hello,
Chris Nicholas, call off, Deanna. I know you and I we've
been kind doing our steams on Tuesdays and we've been talking more draft stuff.
I haven't really got to talk to you about the NC North as a whole.
Who we have is our bigg threat to win this division? Yeah?
No, this is a good question. So this has changed on me.
This changes on me a lot, But for me right now with Chicago,
I think Chicago's the other team. I think green Bay is definitely the safest
bet because green Bay doesn't typically have a lot of variants, Like you don't
go from year to year and expect green Bay to just fall off. That
doesn't happen. And they also don't have a lot of moving parts, so
there's no really reason to believe that they will fall off. But I really
do think where Chicago's at and Easy, I know that we've talked about this,
right the defense that they have, I think for every team they're gonna
be, they're gonna they're gonna give problems to and because now they can play,
they're gonna believe that they can play a different game. What to see
if that's there or not. But they're gonna believe they can play a different
game than what they were able to do last season with Tyson Bagen and they
have guys rolling in and out a quarterback, they can't trust their passing attack.
I think for that team, for the Lions specifically, they're gonna be
a problem because you already know going going to Chicago to play outside. If
it's not early the season, it's gonna be difficult just normally. But both
times they gave us a run last season. I think their defense is legit
and honestly just got stronger. But offensively, what they've added, they have
Romadonsday is going to be good year one. Keenan Allen's gonna be good year
one. Kill Williams doesn't mean to be a great quarterback for those guys to
be impactful, And they had a run game last season between guys that aren't
even there anymore, and their offensive line wasn't, like on paper, notably
great. So I think that they carry a lot of strength in a lot
of different places, and I think that their head coach honestly got a lot
of like hate last season but I don't think he's done a poor job.
Like when you watch Chicago, they know who they are, they play what
they do Schematically, I think they've done fine. They just haven't had the
answers on offense. I think Chicago's the biggest threat next year. You think
they're a bigger theaft than green Bay. Yep, yeah, I'd put Chicago
up there. Yeah, look, I mean here is go ahead, go
ahead. Yeah no, no, Well I was just gonna say. I
mean, like I said, green Bay doesn't have a lot of changing parts.
But I do think that green Bay, for us specifically, like I
think the additions that we made are really gonna help us match up with them.
The cornerback editions, the emphasis that we put there, even if it
was just Carlton Davis would completely I think, shake up what that's gonna look
like. And the second thing would be the interior offensive line, which is
the other thing that I thought game has given us problems against that team.
They haven't really like went crazy at cornerback. Green Bay has it right.
They had a little addition this year. They've had a nice piece. They
usually play sound football. Their safeties can take the football away, so we
know that they'll have that upside. They could just take the football away.
But I think the Lions match up pretty well with them, and with guys
like Zeitler now on the interior. If Graham Glasgow just plays better, which
was basically his worst game last season, I think we match up way better
against green Bay than we do with Chicago. Yeah, yeah, I can
definitely see that matchup for US. That's where green Bay was getting all the
pressure. It was on that interior, and now you got one of,
if not the best pass blocking guards in the NFL. So how do you
see the secondary situation shaping out? Dion in terms of I mean, one
of these rookies ended up starting in my opinion, which one is in your
your opinion? And where? Yeah, So I think Terryan is definitely gonna
start. It's kind of the boring answer, but I think he has to
start. Taryn Arnold to me, I'm not worried about the speed whatsoever.
I think he can play in multiple coverage types. I think they'll start out
wide for US. Carlton Davis as long as he's healthy coming in season,
which he should be, He's gonna start. Carlton Davis has proven it.
I think you could just go look back at last season, even though some
of the numbers aren't there, that guy is a legitimate cornerback, right,
He's also going to offset what we already have in that cornerback room. Well,
so those two will start to me. I think Brian Branch is still
going to start in that slot role. I think he just thrives there.
But if the Detroit Lions, especially if they're gonna say we're gonna lean more
and more man heavy, if they do want to do that and they want
to see some flexibility, and this is where you know, the Kurby thing
kind of comes into play, and they at times they want to kick him
more to safety. I know last season they did it against heavy personnel to
put him in safety. I expect that to continue. But if they want
to kind of like mess around with that and like, hey, we're going
three receivers, but we're still gonna go to safety and put you there because
we still think that you could be great at that spot and maybe we could
limit even some of the questions that we haven't man covered from this role because
I thought he mashed up with tight end as well in college, then I
think rakestrawl would be the next guy up. I think that he could start
immediately from slot because I think he plays that anticipation. Obviously, you have
a Meek Robertson, but I like him more out wide. So I think
what's gonna happen is I think Taran Ronald's gonna step in. He's gonna be
our best corner. I think Mosley could start, but I think Taran Nronod's
gonna be the guy that's just gonna ultimately take over that role. He'll start
opposite of Davis. I think Branch will be in the slot unless they start
moving that around and then your back is behind that will just be you know,
it'll be Rakes draw potentially rotating in and out with Branch, and then
I think you'll have a Meek Robertson and mostly as your backups out wide and
the one position group on this defense that really stayed the same from last year
as the linebacking corps because we saw all of those guys show out and have
good, good spurts of play. Obviously, Angeloni was fantastic all year.
Derek Barnes really came into his own. Malcolm when he gets in there does
some things even Jalen Reeves maybe when he's given the opportunity. He went out
there and he made plays. But a guy in Jack Campbell that I'm expecting
a jump from. I'm expecting him to be kind of the alpha in that
room next year because that's he's the he's the best prospect. He's the most
talented guy out of the draft prospects that we've gotten so far. What what
can you see from Jack Campbell going into his second year having Calvin Sheppard kind
of tutor tutor him and adding a guy like DJ Reader that will help those
linebackers. When you brought up that you had Kirby Joseph for that answer to
the guy that break out, it is like quickly in my head, like
Okay, who would I have for that answer? And Jack Campbell was the
guy that came to mind. So I think Jack Campbell just I mean,
linebacker position kind of feels like tight end where we kind of view tight end
is like yo, tight end, man, those guys usually don't pop.
Really Laporta did, but they usually don't. But I think linebacker was kind
of like that. Now, I mean linebacker, they have so much on
these dudes play and all the movement that you get me. Just look at
Green Bay, all the eye candy that they're gonna throw at you, all
the movement they're gonna have pre snap. It's like, dude, you have
so much to deal with now in coverage. And that's not even talking like,
yo, what if you have a man a man responsibility? I think
linebacker's one of those spots that could just take a minute for a guy to
kind of come along. So Jack Campbell would be the guy that I'd point
to to take that jump because he should come in next year after what Barnes
did. And by the way, your guy, Matthew Betts I checked out.
Matthew Betts. I like him. So when you have math, yeah,
I think he's making the team. Man. I got to say,
Yo, when you got that man now in here, it's like, yo,
Jack Campbell, should he should sit into that off role. You should
know exactly what you want of him. He still has Alex next to him
to kind of clear up any questions or anything like that. But now,
Jack Campbell, the biggest thing for me was in coverage. I just didn't
feel like he was always comfortable there. We know the athlete was there,
it felt way more comfortable at Iowa than it did for the Lions, where
things just kind of felt like they were going by him. I think that
kind of clears up. He's still got a unique skill set for the NFL.
I think Jack Campbell be my choice for that breakout player this next season.
I love it. I love it too. I mean there's so many
guys are hells going to break out? I mean we've talked about it before,
Touelee McNeil. With DJ Vier alongside next to him, you guys just
got them discussing. Jack Campbell was gonna have so much more room and free
lanes to run through with the addition DJ Vier as well, which also helps
out Kirby Joseph, Brian Brandt. I mean, there's so many guys that
are eligible for these breakdown seasons. Man, Jamie's gonna get a lot more
looks with your guy actually just signed with the Tasty tis you you got a
feeling that's gonna happen, Tyler boy, that feeling was cheap too. Four
and a half million. Yeah, it actually really surprised me. What would
your take away from that? You know, he's all the text. I
a little disappointed, but it was just parted by the number, like,
bro, four and a half minute, what are you talking about here?
And you already know it's like, bro, half this is gonna be a
incentives or something whack like that, Like, oh, I come on,
like I would have I don't have that money, but I'm just saying I
would have put a little into the goalfundme if that's what you're interested in.
But honestly, like that's what I'm saying, four point five millions, especially
on a one year deal, like we don't even have a long term commitment
here. I'm on board with that. But that's actually a great name,
Jamison Williams because Jamison did come along. Like there's anybody we could really point
to. It's like, yo, he finished strong. Brought up Jamior Gibbs.
But Jamison is a very easy one, and he showed up in the
biggest moment, Like Jamo was the guy that rose when we needed someone to
rise. So I think for him it was like tracking the football specifically for
where he is, like strength is I think that needs to clean up.
He's always been working on kind of like catch those little small balls over his
shoulder at training camp. So that but overall like you know me, and
we've talked about this. It's like, Yo, the timing within the offense
picked up last season. It took a minute for it to work, but
the timing started to come along, and now you're kind of in a position
where it's like you have to take that next step. We invested in you.
Brad Holmes has done this really with every position we could point to.
If he's put a legitimate draft pick, at some point, he's gonna give
you that opportunity to become that guy at that position at just at some point,
like they're gonna find a way for that role to open up for you.
And that's what it feels like right now with Jamison, is he has
that opportunity. I mean, you know, I looked at it. We
have some nice we have people's jones, we have Antonine Green, even trey
Quan Smith. Maybe don't overlook him, but it's a clear role for him
to just take over. What was it about Bets that you like that you
saw him making the team with well, yeah, Well the biggest thing,
and I'm sure he saw this too, was the first step. I mean,
this guy was electric off the line, and in CFL you have it's
a it's an entire yard right. That is that you have to be off
the ball. It's not like the NFL where you can get right up on
the ball the neutral zone. It's different. So the amount of space that
he has to play with off the line, yet the quickness that I mean,
he's making guys every game at least one time. Guys that just said
a little bit slow, he's just burning right by him. I mean I
had limitations and flexibility certain things like that, but he's smart. He brings
cover upside. So for me, I actually look at it like this,
this is a guy. Keep this mind. He had a six seven to
nine three cone drill, which shows off that big time foot quickness and agility.
A Hutchinson posted a six to seven three when he came out, and
that was like, oh my goodness. I mean he was separating from everybody.
I think that this is a player that could be very dynamic on pass
downs. Put him in the interior right, let him shake against the interior
offensive line and let him kind of minimize some of the lack of flection that's
there and just show that elite get off. I mean, this guy blocked
a punt just because he ran by the long snapper with some of the quickness
all right off the ball. So you get him closer to the line where
he doesn't have to deal with giving you an entire yard. I think you
get that. And then he has the smarts, he has the intelligence.
He also has a coverage upside where he could at least battle for special team's
role and maybe I could be like the backup to Derek Barnes or James Houston
in that early down role. But hey, you can always find roof for
pass rushers. That's for sure. It's one real quick one because I've I
got a quick one too. It okay, cool, we'll go of it
over. Then I have a man crush from Kylie though. I think this
kid can almost hit the ground running if he's putting there in certain situations.
My tripping on that. You have you been able to do a deep dive
on him? I think this kid will might end up being the steel of
the draft. Yeah, I did a semi semi deep dive. I'll say
that, like to me, mkay wingo. He checked all the but he
was just such a smart player. I mean, for a guy that's two
eighty four to handle business on the interior like that it shouldn't happen. He
doesn't have big time length, he doesn't have the size, he doesn't have
the height. Yet he's handling business on the inside because he played so quick
to get into his spots. I just think that his football intelligence similar to
like a guy like DJ Reader. His ability to find the ball so quickly
gives him upside and he has plus shakes like he's showing ability to win in
different ways. It's just been more and flashes and consistency. Biggest thing I'm
wondering about him is that is he going to get more defensive end snaps like
Brad Holmes brought up than playing in the interior, because that would take away
like the questions of can we put more weight on him? But it would
also kind of I don't know how well that's going to work in terms of
pass rush up side, Like I think definitely on third downs you want to
kick him to the inside, but no, he's smart. I think he
gets impact right away. And before we let you go, we talked about
you know, your guy Tyler Boyd signing with the Titans, and so it
looks like, barring some camp cut acquisition, or something like that. These
are the wide receivers they're gonna roll with. How confident are you and Donovan
People's Jones to be able to step up in this offense and actually be a
contributor. Man, it's a tough one, man, because I think Donovan
People's Jones is just different. Like, I don't think we've had a Donovant
People's Jones type. I don't think we've had that since we've really seen the
Lions. With Ben Johnson as the offensive coordinator, I think he's gonna shake
it up. Man, It's gonna be like a different sense. I think
he wins in different ways, and I'm confident that he's gonna add more of
like, oh, you're trying to press this man one on one, he's
gonna win that. You're gonna get more consistent wins there. I think you
have that, you have the tracking ability right, you have some long speed.
But I don't think that he's similar to really any type that we've really
had, maybe outside of Denzel Mims, who we just didn't even see.
So I think he's completely different, which is the most the positive is that
he came along like Jamo did, not to the same extent, but he
started, you know, coming up with receptions as a season went along.
So I have a reason why optimism that's gonna take a jump. But it
kind of has to unless Alan Robinson becomes a lion or something. Yeah,
Dean, what you got going on this week? Where can people catch you?
Yeah? Well, hey, well the Matthew Bets video. That's the
next video. Man, A dose of two point zero. So yeah,
that's the next one. I want it. That's for you, that's for
you. I was like, hey, you a couple of the show today,
all right, that video has got to drop today. So yeah,
that's the next one. And then you know, just keep driving diving into
the draft picks. Yeah. I appreciate you always, man. It's always
always pleasure to have your genius on here. And shout out to supporting by
Matthew Bets claim. Hey, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Man.
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I guess house keeping notes to get to because I haven't been able to do
a deep diving him yet. But did you see the Detroit Lions re signed
C. J. Moore? Yes, that was the safety veteran safety got
suspended indefinitely after gambling alongside Jameson Williams quintest stephus. But this even signed somewhere
too. I was kind of surprised to see, I mean expectation for he's
got solid upside. He's a big body, athletic guy. He's got good
hands, he's just could never stay hell and then he started gambling, I'm
gonna to CJ. Moore though, for me, I think it's a way
bigger resigned than like people are giving it credit for, or at least I
know people are just looking at it and like, okay, whatever. No
before Jayleen Reeves, Maven, before Rodrigo, Yeah, that was our Special
Team's eight. Yes, that was the guy making all like the little freaky
plays on those fourth downs like he was him. He also made fantastic plays
defensively too. Our Special Team's unity got Vaikon and I too got Vaki.
You got like you said Rodrigo, And now CJ. Moore to go with
Jayalen Rings maybe and like we're gonna have some dogs out there on Special Teams.
Seafist of the Bills, Actually, I love that even more for him,
that's pick. Yeah, that's a great spot to make a name for
yourself. Yeah, I mean, remember we don't have much obviously, Kenny
Gailey too, I guess, but Seafists and Stafford had a few connections going
deep. I see him and Josh Allen doing it, But I know special
teams not the section they talk about. I don't know if it ever will
be. I like it better in the way he's shaped up now than previously.
But we're having a special teams going both ways. I think we'll probably
have the best in the league. Of being honest with you, question about
that is we re sign you know, obviously, bring CJ. Moore back.
He's a wapping back there. You know about Jalen Reeves? Maybe,
And I mean, we have all these weapons, but where's the biggest one
of them all in the kicker? No, in the kicker? Like it
seems like they put in so much emphasis on every other everything else on special
teams besides the kicker. Honestly, that's what it seems to be. Like.
Uh, Jake Bates, Jake Bates out there saying, banged another sixty
year old. I mean a sixty yarder. Hey, you know what,
he hit another sixty yarder. Like the guy, he's gonna get a lot
of fucking offers. So hopefully he decides to go with the line, so
would be pretty nice. We signed defensive lineman two Peco. He's the brother
of the defensive line. Yeah, listen, I got honest, I have
to do homework on it. I don't have too much of a takeaway as
of right now. Actually, Nick, do you want to put the stats?
Maybe the screenshot I did not screenshot it. I apologize. Yeah,
I'll pull something up for you. Speaking of new editions, while he's doing
that, I loved one bars take on Marcus Davenport and yeah, I mean
it's a guy who when he's on the field, he can win one on
ones. That's when the Lions didn't have that last year. The Lions did
not have a guy outside of eight Hudginson they could win on one on one
and it was very evident. That's why he was getting double and triple team
and the guy in the back end, whether it was Charles Harris or one
of the Oquaro's, was just getting put on an island. So now they've
got a guy who can win one on ones with Marcus Davenport when he's healthy.
We know James Houston can win one on once, Matthew Betts can win
one on once. So there's there's guys now that will be able to get
to get to the passer if they decided to put all of their stock into
stopping eight Hudgst Again. Kyle Peko was defensive lineman that we signed. He's
been in the league one, two, three, four or five six seven
years league now two career sacks into your defensive lineman. He started thirteen games
last I'm sorry, ten games last year for the Tennessee Titans. I'm assuming
he's more of a depth piece coming over with Terrell Williams at that point.
Yeah. Obviously, if you don't recognize the game a guy's name like that,
that's that typically is the case. I don't think it's anything huge.
I can't guarantee that makes the team. But that's Kyle Peco for you,
defensive tackle, a big Simon lost sim oons allions. I think we never
really had it until remember the short stint we had Notty with loaded. Yeah.
A couple of picks at the draft, Yeah, you did, not
a few of them. Some owens taking over the league to say it.
And then one of the piece of housekeeping news. I want to get out
the way before we get into our all NFC North defensive teams, Roderick Martin.
I didn't see the pictures of christ yet, but have you seen that
photo on Twitter yet? He's slimmed down quite a bit. Really, Yeah,
I mean just the optics of it. I don't know, like the
actual like weight of it. I'll send it if you want to. I
guess speak on that real quick. Let me let me get that over Chris.
I mean good good. He was obviously not in good enough shape to
be out there and begetting meaningful snaps. So yeah, being you know,
three hundred and forty five pounds or whatever it was when he when he weighed
in is is good to have in there. But you don't need to be
that big. You can be just as effective at three twenty and guys that
big, guys that size, they'll stay around that weight. They'll just shed
the fat and put on muscle. And I'm sure that's what he's been doing.
I would make an assumption that he's still around three hundred and twenty three
hundred and thirty pounds, but he just put on muscle rather than having some
of that belly fat. So I'm excited to see this. I mean again,
I don't know, because you know how sometimes photos can be it looks,
but you remember with Jordan Davis, that's exactly what happened to Jordan Davis.
From year one to year two. He shed a lot of weight and
he came in in year two. He was a lot more effective. He
was getting a lot more snaps and getting a lot more playing time. Because
if you're that big, you know, you gotta be you gotta be something
else. Just being big doesn't get you get your playing time in the NFL.
And Jordan Davis he came in a year two and he shed a lot
of weight and he was getting meaningful snaps for the Eagles. Last year,
did you get you mention? Here we go, here's last year. So
that's last year. Yeah? Then this is as recently on the Lions app
Oh yeah, right, Oh for sure, I said a new version two
Chris a little bit more zoomed in if you want, if you like,
and then zoomed in one even look at like his lasts a little bit there,
it's like it's a lot skinnier. I mean, again, this could
just be can'ra plane tricks on us. But the gut for sure isn't there.
And then I guess that too if you look at the lads there,
you did standing out? Yeah, I mean that's you get into going from
where North Dakotas are, northern Illinois, western Kentucky. Yeah, that's what
it was Northern whatever, one of those wax schools. It's you go into
an NFL weight room, an NFL trainer and NFL dietitian, like you're gonna
go from three hundred and forty five of with some belly fat to three hundred
and twenty cut and then he's looking pretty damn good, right there, Paul.
The thing to our womens the background too. I mean the thing with
this one as well that I like is like we've lived through and by the
way, Nick Fairly, I'd still appreciate that he did for us. I
still was a big Knick Fairley fan, but I remember like wait was a
big issue for him, and as talented as he was, he could never
like kind of just get over that to be on the field consistently enough.
This kid, I mean, this is the type of guys are drafting right
away this second time now, Alee McNeil. We soon done now now with
Brodick Martin, Like they're grabbing guys that truly want to be better and we're
gonna put in that work to be better. I don't have any concerns because
I can't say that he was particularly dominant or like everything I wanted to be
at three thirty. He barely hit the field, was barely active for any
games. So I'm hoping that this weight loss means that he does see the
field more, is able to get more working at practice, and whatever the
hell else it means. I'm here for it. Yeah, Chris side by
side of the two pictures. Yeah, Anson, well shot on Anson,
he said, go bet one defensive player of the year. So now he
has more defensive player of the years than Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame,
like I've shared up, Like, I'm sure was he sick last night?
Was that injury? I know you had a kid, okay, Yeah,
and his flights were getting canceled because of the weather. If we're doing
a quick bit of housekeeping here, Fellas, Tiger's down two to one to
the Cleveland Guardians. Another walk off home run for Andy a Banya's leadoff.
Yeah, yeah, that'd be nice to see a walk off here. So
already down a run early in this one, will we score more than one
run, Fellas? No, excuse me, sorry about that. By the
numbers, that means we have a one out of ten chance of winning this
game, because we have one win and ten losses for games we've scored under
two runs, so well, they're already down two to one, so I'd
say it's a zero, we're done. But yeah, no, I mean
I hope they could score another fucking run. But a bias is do something,
no bias some of them. Oh yeah, dude, he looks a
lot better. Yeah, oh yeah, damn we should. And again he's
got another vent there now too, in DJ Rider, who was playing the
highest level of this game, and not in terms of like the Pro Bowls
and all pro stuff like that, but for being like a space eater and
the guy who's made the Super Bowl, like playing that role. Elmago scored
Nick uh yeah, Bayash, let me tweet Neil, Let me tweet Neil.
All right, he had a single to score Jake Rodgers before that,
and then he stole second, and then he was safe on third by a
throwing error to the by the catcher bow Naylor, go back to go back
to Tigers. We were talking about it. We got two runs. Hey,
we scored one, yet we scored one more. We're seventeen and seven
and games. We scored three runs. So yeah, I mean, if
you guys want, we can save the all in North team for tomorrow and
getting some Tiger saw I mean you like, yeah, you guy, don't
do that. Yeah, that's about the morning show. Nick, Yes,
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plane Fitnesstudios. He's easy and you gotta me. We got a curse on
splensor a bond. This is over again. Let's go run and now has
two on the day already, and it's what it's gotta be, like the
fourth only like the fourth inning? What inning is it? Shut extending top
of the top of two. We have top to the top of yes,
top two top this is an auto win. We we we shouldn't lose this.
Shut up Jesus. So this is one of the reasons why A J.
Hinch put at one is because he breaks against lefties. So shout out
Hench. It did look in the lineup, but he put on first because
he probably hits the best against lefties on this roster. So shout out.
By hitting his second bomb of the day, let's go fellas man, it's
exciting. Sucks we can't watch. But warmed up too. He's hot from
what he when he started season. Nervous. I'm not Yeah, yeah,
I'm a little a little bit nervous. Yeah. Who's on the mountain,
who's on the tip the worst of the retract I retract Yeah, all right,
Nick, you took the time your own some questions pertaining to the NBA
in these playoffs. Lay them on his brother puts it sounded weird. All
right, let's go. We'll start with the best series so far, or
not the best, but the most interesting because it's a former MVP going up
against a future one. The Denver Nuggets find themselves down oh two at home.
Is this joke Kitch to blame here or is it Anthony Edwards just completely
taken over in the Timberwolves dominance. It's just the Timberwolves. Yeah, Timberwolves,
dude, it's not even cannot blame Yogic at all. That's the best
defensive team, if one of the best defensive teams in the league right now.
Obviously shot the Anson Wells who hit the chat for it, and let
us know that Gobert's got another defensive Player of the Year. But no,
watching that game, they're suffocating. They're athletic, they're long, they play
the perimeter really well, and they're just they're there in droves at every level
of defense too. Yeah, it's it's just the Timberwolves being locked up.
Like we talked about there, the depth of perimeter d defense they have is
insane and not a lot of teams are gonna look good again. Like they
shut down the Suns, so they're gonna be able to shut down the Nuggets
guards pretty easily. Yeah, it comes down to the simple fact that this
is just a bad matchup for Denver. It's on It's not on Jolkic at
all, and I expect Yolkic to continue to ball throughout this series. I
just it's gonna depend on can the other guys get going, Can Jolkic get
these guys in good positions? Can they create for themselves? Can Jamal Murray
create for himself? Can Michael Porter Junior create for himself a little bit?
Because this defense is stifling and it's it's one of the best I've seen in
the last decade in the NBA. So it's just all around a bad matchup.
But the one advantage is that Jolkic is Jokic, and you know he's
got the ability to generate a high quality shot every time he touches the ball.
So they're not out of this series yet. Talk about another great matchup.
We got the MAVs going up against the Thunder and two absolute superstar guards
going up against each other, got Luca versus SGA. First of all,
let's get a quick series prediction out of the fellas, and two, if
not now win for Luca in these Mavericks, it's now, it's now.
And honestly, as much as like I was ruining against some of that Clipper
series, just you know, keep my narrative, narratives to push my narrative,
I can see them one of this. This series puly based off experience.
Luca's playing in the Westernference finals before, as far as he's got you
know, hit the playoff a few times. Then. Obviously, Kyrie has
won the NBA Finals before. I think he went there once more two game
with the Boston Celtics. Yeah, I think I think that experience was shining
this one. Although okay, so he's an upper cover for sure, give
me Madison six. I think what the Mavericks did, adding Gafford and PJ.
Washington at the deadline was extremely important and vital for their team. You
added some guys that are long, some guys that could play defense, and
obviously PJ. Washington not only makes terrible child support payments but can also shoot
the three little bit. So I think they're gonna win. I think,
like I said, Madison six, if you get three wins out of If
the Mavericks get three wins, it's over because Kyrie Irving is thirteen to zero
in closeout games in his career, So I just think it's gonna shine through.
You got two of the most dynamic one on one scorers in the history
of the NBA playing in Kyrie Irving and Luka Doncicic, So I'm excited to
see this. I like, I like Okay See, I like how they're
built, but la Easy said, there's just there's depth that they can rival
the depth of okay See with the Mavericks, with the team they have,
and they have the old heads and the experience to go after I like Lively
a lot for them too, in terms of like the way they play a
guy to keep grabbing like extra boards for them, the actually opportunities to score.
And then the other thing I was gonna say too, is I think
Chris and I have had this conversation the show, specifically Okay s He's up
and coming, for sure, but it feels like every great young team like
that needs that first heartbreak before they start doing things like going to Western Conference
finals, and I just think this is gonna be that for the okay see
and shout up to Dante one fifty one in the wolverd Sports Chet the Red
Wings had fifteenth pick in the drafts year. Yes, and to agree with
everything you guys said. Plus the you know, the synergy between Kyrie and
Luka is working very well for them. And on top of that, you
have the big bodies of Lively and the Gaffer that will punish Chet Holner and
I think and make it a hard series for him just in certain games he
could get in follow trouble. If he gets in follow trouble, things get
really dicey, really fast. For okay See, they have they have the
protocols, They have the tools to stop a guy like Hukah or contain a
guy like Huka. But the difference in this series is they don't have anybody
that can guard the shifty players like Kyrie. So I think that's the big
X factor. And the fact that Luca shot twenty something percent from three in
the last series. I just don't see him doing that two series in a
row. I think he was in a shooting slump. I don't necessarily think
it was because of good defense by the Clippers. I think it was just
Luca in a shooting slump, and I'm predicting Luka to have a strong bounce
back series this series. So I'm going with I'm going with the MAVs,
and I may even I may even go five. And that's not to discredit
how good old damn. That's because of how good Dallas is. Dallas got
back to past the Clippers, who are a good team with with with a
horrible Lucas series efficient wise, talk about a high upside scorer right now,
Jalen Bronson four straight with forty points. Are the Knicks officially back with Jalen
Bronson and should not just Indiana, but be Boston possibly be concerned with them
as well moving forward, Yes, the Knicks are fucking back. Yes,
Jalen Brunson is leading the Knicks back. Yes, Boston should be scared.
We're gonna get past Indiana easy. And you look at Boston. You were
having trouble with the heat with Jimmy Butler on one foot, Tyler Herro giving
you guys buckets. Just wait for Jalen Brunson to get in there. Boston
should be very scared. Knicks are making the finals. Oo fucking hating New
RK teams. I am so grossed out to your fan hook for Carmelo to
Dan do dick well easy. If you're not gonna provide any analysis here,
there's a big difference in Tangus Pengus not playing. I think that really I
think that really helps. I think that really helps because you look at this
team. This team is such a feisty team, this New York team on
the offensive glass, and if they don't have a guy like Tangus Pengas,
like you're counting on Al Horford and Tatum and the Celtics have size. Holladay
is a good rebounding guard. But ultimately the way New York has controlled the
glass in all of the playoffs so far. And if Josh Hart continues to
shoot forty three percent from three, that's a guy who shot thirty percent.
Like we are seeing a team that is firing on all cylinders. A big
part of that Jalen Brunson, Joshing, Josh Hart does everything for this team.
He's the secondary scorer, he rebounds the ball extremely well, and he
can dish the rock. You've got guys like Hartenstein stepping up Mitchell Robinson not
even playing that big of a factor, but him getting some rest now going
it like, I'm not scared of no fucking Pengus, Pengus, gimme Hartenstein.
I ever heard of a Latvia? He never heard in the tavia?
All right, Fellas, one move that one of these teams made was kind
of big deadline. Got who columbs? Got one? Four four? It
was three first round picks for Pascal Siakam to pair with Halliburton, and obviously
they lose game one. There. Do you guys think three first round picks
is going to end up looking too steep for a guy like Pascal Siakam that
you pair with Halliburton if they get bounced in this round specifically early initially,
yes, I did. I did think it was a lot But is any
A pacer team is pretty good. It wing be drafting like pass well past
the lottery. I mean, what years were these three first round picks?
We know this year? First it was a pick swap and then I think
twenty twenty seventh top four protected or something like that. Yeah, that's that's
fair value in my opinion for what he brings them. That's the price of
doing business in the NBA. If you want a guy who's on the level
of Pascal Siakam, that's what you're going to have to give up. We
saw like four first round picks for Rudy Gobert, so uh, yeah,
I'm not it's not a crazy is he fit for me? Obviously? They
still need to play defense if they want to do anything. Like they have
a kind of a gimmicky offense to where they're gonna go. It's kind of
like the uh Mike D'Antoni suns where it's just shoot, shoot, shoot,
as soon as you get the ball. So they're gonna run up the points
a lot, but they can't stop anybody. So it's uh, it's not
a great fit for me. They definitely need to iron some things out.
That's a good quarter build round with Pascal Siakam and tyrre Selbern. Yeah,
that's the key is that this is a young team that you project a lot
of these guys to get better. While Pascal is probably around his peak,
and look, he had some good games in that Milwaukee series, like he
was he was awesome at times for the Indiana Pacers. So I think it's
a fair price, you know, I think this is a team that's on
the way up and can be it can be pretty damn good and fellas the
sleeping giant in the East, that's not really so low key. The Celtics
are plus one hundred, the absolute favorite to win it all. Is this
the year that Jason Tatum finally gets it's over the hump? And is there
any way in hell that Cleveland can win this series? No, there is
no way in how Cleveland can win this series. And no, this is
not the year for the Celtics. The Celtics are never gonna win a championship
with the roster they have, constructive, it just doesn't work. They always
choked, Like easy said, Tatum has had that chance consistently over and over
and over to be that guy to take the throne, has never done it.
I know this team on paper is better than what they were last year,
but I like last year Celtics roster better than this one. No,
they're not gonna win the championship. I don't know if they win the East,
but they're gonna beat the Cats, the Cats. Cats will take a
game from them, but they're gonna beat the kids. Yeah. I think
the key is Donovan Mitchell is going to be electric in that series. But
you saw in that Orlando series, like he scored twenty two points, all
of their points in the fourth quarter and they still lost. This is a
team that is struggling outside of Donovan Mitchell, and I think that Boston just
has too much other creation. Well, well that dog, that killer mentality,
that thing that you need to get over the hump and win the championship.
They have what they need to get past this series. Absolutely, it
would be a shocker if Cleveland got more than one game. Hell yeah,
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I just got some shout that Antoina just tagged me and something I feel
like I should say for tomorrow. It's also he's so dry right now that
I probably have to say this for Yeah, but definitely called me by surprise.
Definitely just jaw dropping. I had to look at this thing over and
over again to be figured out. But the time being five minutes off the
show, guys, get your mailbag questions in next right on, right on
to chef Talks five milbag. Have you ever gotten crunk before? And asked
Nick if you knows what it means? Crunk? Yeah, I mean I
think I've just heard the slang like get crunk? Is there like a is
there an Australian twist of this, Australian twists like a little John Arrow?
What is this? Getting late? Really? Yeah? Getting crunk? Yeah,
I've been crunk a couple of times. I think hopefully I'm not saying
something horrible here this. I want to bring this up. I want to
say for the time, save it, save it. Five to three guardians,
another one, bottom of two. What's more likely spinning? There's more
touchdowns or Montgomery more touchdowns? What's more likely Laporta touchdowns or Jamie touchdowns?
The Porta? Nick, Yeah, this was a tough one, but I
think it's gonna be the Laporta. I'll include rushing if you want, Oh,
yeah, I mean I was figuring it in. But I think laport
will have ten plus again, and I think Jami will be kind of close
to like, I mean right around there. But I think laport Is can
more defintely agree with Nick there. Yeah, we have Gibbs of Monty Monty
because I think we are just so elite down at the goal line where we're
just gonna be able to bowl us for a bunch of touchdowns, and we
seem to like to give Manty the ball there Kirby, what's more likely Curby
pro Bol or Houston? Ten sacts? I did Kirby. Yeah, I
did Kurby. I did Kirby. I know I did the Houston and I
predicted ten sacks. But I think Kirby's gonna absolutely explode. I thought Spenny
hit the nail on the head earlier talking about this defensive line improvement and how
are the ballhawks in the back are going to be able to succeed like extremely
well, And we've seen Kirby do it two years in a row. He's
going to take that third third year leap. I think, uh, mail
bag easy. You think that he's going to be more competitive this year?
Yes, I do the Rams plan on being better? I would say this
year two for all those rookies I have stepped up, although they missing Aaron
Donald obviously. The Eagles, I think it would be a lot better than
they were last year, at least coaching wise. And then uh, Caleb
Williams a threat now the Packers were a threat. Now I find I think
the Cowboys took a step back, but good draft. I think they just
stay the same. Yeah, they kinds replaced everything they lost. Really,
they got the biggest Chokoura in the NFL, so you got nothing to worry
about. Yeah, I'm not tripped with the Cowboys at all. Ever,
are going to be better this last one? Yeah, I heard to say,
but what's more likely Pistons turn around? Yeah, owner, We've seen
it with Tor last year. We've never seen it with the Pistons in this
ownership. It's disgusting what's going on right now. Yeah. I mean it's
easier to hit a baseball than it is to turn around a dysfunctional franchise that
has mouthfeast. It's on every single level. It's statistically the hardest thing to
do sports. Yeah, But I mean when when your malfunction goes every single
level of the organization pretty much. I think I think that makes it that
makes it harder to turn around, but not downplaying baseball, but it's kind
of more so. It's now five to five, by the way, shout
out my head. Please trade him for a matt please. You can't trade
him. Bring up man and caught him cut ties. Bad move man.
He's been really solid when he's been up this year. Yeah, I was
very ask you that. I want to ask it to Chris, but I
don't know if it was stupid ass because my aida was like playing well to
run Homer Tigers losing seven to five back home. I don't know about that.
No, Kamazoo, he's a shout. He's a real one. He's
one to send the log in which I gotta share with you now too.
Yeah, Comcast, no more so shout the kalamazoo. Yeah, bro,
mayda fucking just give. One of the things I did want to bring up
today is how can we trade like a prospect in our system and arm that
obviously is an elite. I kind of wanted to bring it up. Get
roudy for tomorrow we're breaking ship down about these Tigers and how we can try
to fix them. How we can try to fix them. Man's disgusting what's
going on right now? I mean, can you not get an arm from
Aida? No, you can't get anything. I'm sorry, No, no
little what two of them? One inch? You can't get a fucking broken
washing machine for Aida. But that'll do it for us today. Appreciate you
all tapping into the world. Have its live on woodsports dot com. Make
sure you slash that leg button mataus trash for Easy, for Nick, for
Jesus, for Chris. I'm Spencer. We're the heavyweights. We'll catch you
guys tomorrow. Peace. M