Made a decision face sunny sum, I had a vision by what's up everybody?
Hey, hey, hey, it's us our Friday show. It sure
is. I'm excited though, me too, because I know that you have
some stuff to talk about that I'm excited to hear. Well, yeah,
I mean TV shows. Oh I have, Oh my god, all I've
been doing is watching TV. I don't know if I mentioned I broke my
foot. I want yes, and I want to know what you're watching.
This is my new lung infection. I'm gonna just bring it up all the
time, a lung infection. You know what's funny though, is um my
friend. All my friends are texting me a lot like how are you doing?
How are you feeling? Which is so sweet, but like not good,
bitch, what do you want to say? Don't walk? Yeah,
there's no there's no new news like I and I am a person who enjoys
being out and about in the world, and I'm writing you gossip and you
know, having adventures driving my car and now I'm in my bed. So
every time there my friends were texting me like four or five times a day
like how you doing. I'm like the same, which is terrible. I
mean, it's just like I'm I'm boring right now. Well, but yeah,
but you're watching TV and yeah, like I did see the Jared Fogel
Jared where I know. She sends me a text Jared from Subway Doc.
I'm like, yeah, I know, bitch, I watched this was a
game out. It's been out five months. Oh my god. I was
trying to tell John. I'm like, well, the Natalia that was so
much insanity. I told you it was going to be like abducted in playing
sight, like yeah, it's ten yes, and it was, which did
not disappoint my god. Which, well, we got to talk about that.
But let's let's say to our friends, all right, say hi to
our people before we even say hi to them. I just want to do
this shout out first my friend Adam, Adam Lerner Adams, Uh, what's
his thing? Adam's got a car dot com. Yes, he's a car
broker. He will educate you. It doesn't cost you anything. If you're
in California, right, he'll find you a car. He'll get you a
better deal than any It's not it's not like a it's hard to explain what
a car broker does. It's like it prevents you. It's you don't have
to go shop a car and and make get the best deal. Brokers have
access to better deals than you or I will ever get. So the way
I found a broker in the first place is we were shopping a car deal
and our friends were like, why don't you just use our broker? Like,
so we shop the best deal we could because John was very suspicious of
this. And then the car broker that we were using at the time,
who's Who's great. But like, now my friend Adam does it got us
like twenty dollars less a month the same exact car. He just had access
to better deals. Ever since then, we've been sold on brokers and anyway
you will talk if you need to know, like hey, what kind of
car can you get? Or whatever? Just call him? I love you.
There's numbers nine nine eight seven zero for eight okay, car broker nine
eight Wait what's the area code? Oh three one zero three one zero nine
nine eight seven zero four eight or Adams got a car dot com? Okay?
And we got to say how to our friends. We got Stephanie the
Stinkerwrinker, CHRISTI gets strap, Sandra Jazy it's not easy Green, Jennifer get
get fuck up already. Yeah, hand Arra Stefano, Leslie still coughing.
Stop trying to one up me. I'm coughing too, Leslie, don't feel
bad? Yeah, Alicia, the City of el Monte Aaron, Who do
this? Kelly, She'll take your plan parenthood. You guys get that joke?
Yeah, Rebecca, Nikki Callier, h what did she do? She
pops her collar up? Yeah, slame. I gotta come up with a
better one for next week. Nikki Ashley, you're so chic. Leslie,
don't cost people outside of IKEA. That's right, Jacob, you're Growley Rita
rock that bassinet. All of Elizabeth Williamson's kids. Stop, Elizabeth, you
got enough. Hero Happy Father's Day Athena gain shirt, your fabulous dancer and
Polly we love your pancakes, and Valerie'd sit on the park and Katerina's got
a bum boler and Gabby and Missy they're just bums. They're bums. And
he's at speaking of bum m hm. So yeah, we'll get to those
shows in a moment. A memento. But Elbie got her wisdom teeth out
this morning, you know, it's so funny. Natalia went to go get
her wisdom teeth checked out today, Yeah, yeah, because she's got to
get four of them taken out. Yeah, so same, Elbia had all
four taken out. Yeah, so here was the bummer. That's so weird
that both our daughters had wisdom teeth appointments, so weird on the same day.
I love my oral surgeon. He's really really great guy. You got
to give him more then both of good help. That was a good one.
So um, he took your stuff out. He took both my teeth
that had to come out right and put the implants in there. He's really
good. But I found him because he was the Orthodonus recommended him for Elbe
many years ago when she had to have some adult teeth pulled, and I
really liked their office. Anyway, how did she feel today? Like was
she? So here's the thing, Lynette, I mean, I have this
bum foot. I cannot get around my house even so John had to take
her, which is just not his normal thing. Right, that's not normally
his jam, Like that's my jam, Like, that's my department. Yeah,
yeah, that's default parenting, peak default parenting, right, Like yeah,
guys, he didn't even know where to go, like where the office
is located, He's never been there. Yeah, you know so. But
and I swear to God it came to my mind the second that I knew
I couldn't walk, I was like, oh shit, I'll be has to
get her wisdom teeth out on Monday. Who's gonna take her? As if
I don't have a Husband's right? John's like I am so, I'm like,
you can't get up at eight o'clock in the morning, like right right?
Also, you guys know I'm struggling. I'm on the struggle bus because
I can't walk peepo. Oh that's right? What what? What? John's
having to do everything? Walk the dog in the morning, walk the dog
at night, but this morning. And you guys are probably like, why
don't you have your kids walk the dog? Good question. For a reason
why the baldy is because we've tried and the and people won't go with Well,
that's she's so used to us walking her that she's just like, oh
what who? Yes, I had the same problem with Phil. I've some
when I'm at the condo. There's sometimes I'm talking in Italiet and I'm like,
what are you doing. She goes, I'm walking Phil because she wants
to go for a walk after dinner and she wants to walk Phil. But
she's given up on that. She's tried it twice and she's like, the
motherfucker doesn't go like he just is like you're trying. She's trying to pull
him going a lot, Like it's like trying to pull like you know a
torchedo. Yeah that does with a leash on it. Like he just doesn't.
It's just dead weight. Can't pull him, like he doesn't want to
go. So and I know what she means because he does it with me.
But there's a certain fine, you gotta go. Come on, Phil,
let's go for walk over luck over uck right, And then you know,
she's like, I'm not gonna dance for him. He either wants to
walk or not. So she gave up. She's like, I'm not and
Phil and Sunny too. With Phil, He's like, I can't he's dead
weight. You just can't. He's Oh, Penolpie has her own weight.
Ask my neighbor Mitch, because Mitch and I we used to go for the
walks together until this happened. But Mitch knows Penelope is a princess. She
doesn't want it. Where Penelope wants to go, that's where we're going.
And it's not worth the fight. I would have to literally drag her.
She would just dig her heels in. I'd have to drag her along.
It's not worth it. So I just go you want to cross the street
or crossing the street? You want to go home or going home? Like
she just decides what's happening. Yeah. I picture the scene in the Jerk
with Steve Martin with his dog Shitead comes head along. That's what it's like
with Pepo and fell. Yeah. So and so John was feeling my pain
this morning because it's like I'm always having to figure it out in my head,
Like, Okay, if John's say he's out somewhere or whatever, I
have to figure out how am I going to get to this place, but
also get Penelope walked because she has to go for her walk in the morning.
So anyway, this morning John was anxious going to sleep. Last night.
I don't think he's had this much responsibility. I beg Yeah, he
had to have a lot of last minute instructions. Okay, so what do
I do? How much is it I put it on the credit card,
like I paid all at once. What time does she need to be there?
You know, I'm yelling directions from my bed and I was like,
no food or drink after night, always texting me can I order some food?
I'm like, you just nothing after midnight night, you know. So
then okay. So he wakes up in the morning kind of early. He's
like okay, and I'm like, okay, it's this this building. It's
on balboas we two thirty three, Like do you need me to text it
too? He's like no, I got it, like really because I'm waiting
for a text. But he took care of everything. He took her there.
So meanwhile, Penelope is at my bed crying, like for a walk.
So I wake Xander up and I'm like, Xander, I need you
to take Penelope for a walk. She might not go with you, like
and he's like okay. So she looked like she'd been betrayed, like like
this was the worst thing because I was like, Penelope, because Sander's gonna
take you for a walk. Your brother's gonna take you for a walk.
And she was looking back at me like I was putting her up for adoption.
You know, and I was like, it's just a walk with somebody
else, it's not me. So we got the leash on her and when
she she just kept turning back to me like not wanting to leave. But
once they got out the door, she went for a walk and he took
her for like a real walk, like they were gone for a long time.
Oh that's good. I was got along to load off. So and
then Xander goes, mom, I'll help with Penelope, like, oh,
I'll walk her all the time for I know. So that was really nice.
So I got to because John was like, I don't know what to
do. Do I leave her getting her wisdom teeth out and come home and
walk the dog? I was like no, we'll figure it out, like
right. So anyway, I was like, Xander just took a walk,
You're off the hook. Anyway, she came home doing the whole everybody was
shown nice. Ah see, that's what I wanted to know, Like,
was she she was loupity loupity loupitty, like in a great dude, you
know, until she went to sleep for a while and then woke up.
It was like miserable. I don't think it's not bad. The pain is
not that bad. And how many teeths did did did they take? For
all four? Same with Italia, Well we'll see it's freaking expensive. Yeah,
well they took all their x rays and the blah blah blah, and
now we gotta Italia is And she's taking Spanish too this summer. So she's
got classes in the morning over the summer. Why yeah, because she needs
Spanish too to go to Oh oh yeah, she doesn't want to just take
it as a senior. I think she's trying to get it done and out
of the way. And they have like summer the summer school programs at our
school where they could just the kids can just do whatever they need classes that
they needed to take. So she signed up for that. So she started
this morning. And yeah, so she's got she's got a lot going on,
but I mean not a lot, but she's got classes, which is
good. I'm glad. I'm happy for her, Like get your stuff done.
So um, yeah, so there's that. And then I was going
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you were about to tell me? I was gonna tell you about how I
got roped into if you listen to the patreonial here. But went this weekend
with Natalia to Cabo. It was the end of school year. Her friends
went. I had went with another mother, my friend Jody went. All
was happy. We were had a great the girls were great. Let's just
the girls. We had a great time. However, so there was a
day I haven't been to I have never Okay, I've been to Cobo twice
once years, like I don't know, fifteen years ago with my ex,
like in a very like private, you know, moromantic place. Chill.
Then I went again with a bunch of friends at a house that we rented.
That's when he went with Jimmy's Jimmy's wife. Yeah, yeah, she
got a house where the some of the girls drowned. I told you about
that, Yeah, yeah, did I tell you about that? Yeah,
but like remind me, so, yeah, this was like probably six or
seven years ago. We stayed. Jimmy's wife, Molly decided after she gave
birth to her first daughter, she wanted to get rent a house in Cabbo,
and she invited she's like friends from college, friends from her improv class,
friends from her work, friends, you know. So she invited all
of us like fifteen girls. That is like a rich person thing, right,
yes, like but you you should come with us, right right and
listen she it was great, like everything was included. All we had to
do is show up. It was you know, Melissa and I were like
together anyway that there was a day where she did, okay, you can
go to the beach or you could get them like take up. I think
we were doing a yoga class and then a massage. So Melissa and I
were we grew up in California, were used to the beach. We didn't
need it. But she had friends that flew out from the Midwest that obviously
they they're in Cabbo, they want to go walk on the beach. So
half of them went to go walk on the beach. And our house was
like on a cliff overlooking the Pacific side on the ocean, which is which
can be very the waves can be rough. There was no signs of not
going in the ocean. We didn't anyway. We hear these screams. We're
up at the top, we're doing these yoga class. We hear screams going
on. We hear ambulance. What the fuck's going on. Turns out a
couple of her friends, one was a lifeguard, went to walk on the
beach and they came across that's so sad. They came across a guy a
day like this dude, he's sitting on the beach and he's drenched with like
seaweed all over him, and he's just staring out at the ocean and there's
a woman in the ocean just getting tossed around. She's dead, his wife,
And he said, I tried to save her. I couldn't, Like
he was just distraught, and they were like, what the fuck and like
so, but the lifeguard with them, she goes, do not get in
that water. Girls, don't getting that water. Don't get in that water.
And she then she went to the guy and she said, where are
you staying and what at where's your family? And he said and he gave
her the address to the hot and she goes, I'm gonna go get your
family. And then she told the girls stay with him, don't get in
the water. It's dangerous. So she leaves. Of course, like a
couple of them decide they're going to try and save the woman in the water.
They jump in the water. They don't care. They're like jump in.
And then they got sucked into the waves. They were getting pulled in
this undercurrent. Their bought, their bikinis were getting ripped off of them.
They were trying to have so a couple of them got each other out of
the waves. Then Sally, like her cousin, Jimmy's cousin, Sally,
she was swept for like she was trying to like swim against the waves to
get back to shore. She couldn't. There's a life this. There was
a sailing fisherboat with a with a couple of guys on a bachelor party.
If they didn't pay the ex thirty bucks to spend an extra half hour out
fishing, they wouldn't have been coming along at the right time. And they
see Sally in the ocean and they they they see what's going on? They
pull I mean a lot's going on, right, So they come over,
they grab her, they pull her out of the boat. They pull another
girl in the ocean out of the boat, and they take her. She
had to go to the hospital. Sally was in the hospital like two nights.
She had pebbles and sand in her lungs. She was so close to
drowning and she's a good swimmer. It was these rogue waves in in Cabo.
So the mom, the wife of this man is gone. He's deceased.
Anyway, so that was the last time I've been to Cabo. Okay,
okay, So I was not out and about on the beach whatever.
We were secluded in the house and whatever. So anyway, at Cabo with
Natalia having a nice time, So the other mom and I and my girlfriend
Jody, we go for a walk where we go walk down the beach and
then as we're coming back, we run back into our girls who are just
sitting on like they're eating lunch at a cafe, and all of a sudden,
the cafe starts going like there's a DJ and he gets up there and
he's like, we're doing a hot bod contest. We're doing a man's for
men who's some like hot guys or whatever. So the there's like four guys
get pulled up on stage and then they're like, we need a judge,
we need a judge, We need a woman to judge these guys who wants
to do it. And then all of a sudden, Italian our friends are
like, Mom, get up there. Mom, you do it. Mom,
you're getting due to it. And I was like, no, no,
no, your kids think a lot of you. I was like,
what would be like, Oh, do not go anywhere near that stage,
Mom, I will fucking kill you. They were like they were paying the
DJ to have me get up there. They these girls with their own money.
I was like, what you know, okay, okay, what ever,
I go. But they're not gonna touch me, are they like?
And they were like, no, we saw the contest earlier. It's fun.
You'll you'll be fine. They don't they don't touch you. They just
dance for you. And I was like, okay, am I the only
judge. Yeah yeah, yeah, just get up there, get up there,
get up there. And I was like, so anyway, I got
roped into judging Hot Bodcat contest. And then so there was the four guys,
three of them take themselves very seriously. And then there's a goofball dude
up there who's just like goofy with this Hawaiian shirt. He's got a headband
on that says I love milf. Oh my god, and the Italian her
friends are like, mom, pick him, pick him. And he's got
a hundred friends in the audience that are cheering him on. So of course
my girls are like, pick him because most of everybody in the audience are
cheering this kid Jacob on. Anyway, so I was up there and they
were like, you know, dancing for me. Each kid got up and
danced for me. And then so this kid, Jacob who's Italian with the
I Love Milf band, he comes over and he's got an Italian horn necklace
on and uh and he's dancing for me and I go, oh, I
go, are you Italian? He's like, yeah, I go, I'm
full blooded Italian. Goes my mother's full blooded Italian, like, oh,
you're such a sweet kid. Oh okay, okay, and Itelli's like vote
for him votefully because all of his all of his friends are yelling for him
to win, and he's a goofball. You know, the other guys are
taking themselves seriously. And then um, anyway, so he dances for me
and then I get to pick and lo and behold, I pick him,
and um it was fun. It was like yeah, and then he won.
He won like a bucket of beer for everybody, and that was it.
And then when um, I went on with that was that? It
was that? What was that? I love stuff like that. I just
want to tell, very imprompt I want to go see the thunder down under.
I we've talked about this. They're coming to like, uh, I
don't know. There's some warm beach or somewhere. I might have missed it,
but like, I think it would be really funny to go see.
Oh my friends were like, oh, that's so cheesy, that's kind of
gross. Now it's fun fun. It's fun because I went and saw Vinnie
from Jersey Shore. Yeah, do the Chippendales. We should do that again
if he if he's there, he does it, I think, you know,
I think he's doing it every summer or something, and some summer's coming
up. We should go. It's so much fun. We have to find
out if he's dating. Uh Gabby from The Bachelor Bachelorette, is he really?
I don't know's I think she thought it was she liked him though,
Oh really yeah? I think she met him on Dancing with the stud Oh
she did the Star Yes, yes, yes, because he was on dancing.
But I don't I don't know if they're they're not dating. I don't
think I don't know. I love Vinnie. Love that guy. Know,
we should get him on our podcast. We have to. Hey, we
should reach out to him. You should. I'll reach out to him.
I've reached out to a bunch of people. I know. We're doing our
special guest coming up. Yeah, we're doing our Thursday guest up. Yes,
yeah, Um, what was I going to tell you what you're watching?
Okay? I have watched so many shows. First of all, The
Curious Case of Natalia Grace. That's how fucking crazy? Or is that dad?
It's oh my god, what what's going on with him? No?
I haven't heard of this one. That's so good. Okay, So do
you remember years ago there was a story I'm sure you heard about this.
It was in the news where this couple had adopted. Yeah, we talked
about this briefly. Yeah. Yeah. They claimed that she was that they
lied about her age, and that she they suspected her of being a fully
adult woman like twenty two years old to it, and then they made like
a horror movie based off of it. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't need
to watch the horror was the horror? I think the horror movie came first.
I think they were they the orphan. Yeah that was called Yeah,
I think that happened before, so I think they got the idea. Listen,
spoiler alert. She's not any older than her age. And I'm seeing
all these people on the for crying out loud, uh yeah on our Facebook
group going I know, but like I think she is a little bit older.
She's not older than she is. It was proven they did a DNA
test with her mom. They found her mom. They but you don't got
to watch that documentator. Yeah, yeah, you don't find this out until
a little bit later. But like these people are absolutely insane that now now.
But I want to know what you think though, because I'm not ruling
out that she that the girl had could be a bit of a sociopath,
right me neither, because because she was subjected to a lot of trauma and
as we know from our studies, as our sociology degrees, our doctors,
yes, our doctors, Jemanie and I have spent years going down Yes,
we know a lot about we have a lot of studies personality. We've listened
to a lot of true crime podcasts. We know we have our doctor degree,
don't I thought of forensic psychology. We will tell you firsthand. Yeah,
so obviously you know these kinds of disorders. What I think she has
is um, you know, radical attachment disorder. Yeah, there are Do
you remember that Lifetime movie. No, it's like after it's like a movie
of the week. Yeah, about this little girl. I think I want
to say, I want to say Meredith Baxter Bernie was in it, but
maybe not got this couple that adopted this girl, and she had been traumatized
and she was trying to kill the dog. Remember, she snuck a knife
in and she was she was poking the dog with pins. And eventually the
mom had to leave the home because she was like threat need to kill the
brother. There was like a brother in the home. She was starting to
kill her parents, so they're having to lock their door at night. And
eventually the mom tried this like radical therapy on her, remember because it's where
she had to hold her Oh yeah, therapy, and then the girl would
scream and go fuck you ate yeah right right, I hope you die.
Yeah. But then eventually it worked to some degree. I don't think she
was ever like cured. I don't think she could ever like re integrate into
the home, but she got like a lot better, And I think she's
Oprah talked. I think there was an Oprah thing about it too, that
kind of therapy. It might have been the same, Yeah, because it
was based on a real story, right. Yeah, it's called rad radical
attachment disorder. Anyway, what stems from a lot of times is the kids
not having anybody to bond with. It happens sometimes to kids who are like
living an orphanage and aren't getting any attention and aren't getting any kind of bond
with any parental figure. They're just neglected, yes, and they can't go
up to be sociopathic, you know where they just don't have any sort of
empathy or feelings and they want to hurt you. Now, So am I
ruling out that she did like say some things to her parents. But what
happened is what you find out is that these crazy ass parents. Well,
first of all, something is so wrong with that dad. Yeah, the
mom is all the mom is a child abuser in jail, and that the
dad is like, yeah, like he's auditioning for like a freaking Shakespeare I
know, I know, I agree. However, wasn't he kind of showing
up for I think that he was more showing up for her than the obviously
than the mom, because he would go to the apartment make sure she was
okay. Yeah, I don't know. He later he was like, well,
I was scared of her, right, right, he was crazy and
he was very entertaining to watch. It's so entertaining. Oh yeah, what
was wrong with him? Like I know he was like auditioning for like he
was just this is like total putting on, Like he was excited to be
doing a documentary about his nut job ex wife and and and the daughter.
Like I think that. He starts out at the beginning of it just like
talking about her. She's crazy, right, she tried to kill us.
Yeah, she's a mon star, right, we are living star. And
then later he starts to talk about his wife that way she was trying to
kill Oh, she's a terrible person. Yeah. And he got off.
Man, he got lucky that he didn't go to jail. Oh my god.
The jurors were like, wait, hold on, how was it possible
for them to go to trial? And the jurors could not know how much
how what her real age was. Okay, that was crazy killing me.
Some judge just decided like nope, that can't be included. And then that's
that first of all, right from the beginning, I'm looking at this girl,
and when they're starting to say like she was older than she was,
I'm like, all these pictures of when they first adopted her. Well,
first of all, she was adopted. This is what a lot of people
had questions about this, what had happened. What happened was she was adopted
by some people that tried to tried to adopt her, but there was some
shady shit going on where they were trying to charge the money for her and
well you want a keeper, it's going to be ten thousand dollars and they
were like, well, we don't have ten thousand. They were selling children.
Yeah, so so the couple with dwarfism, who would she would who
would have made a great apearance for her? The only people that were fucking
normal were all the little people exactmentary you know, so uh, you had
so much empathy for them. They were like the best people. They were,
and they were like, we really wanted this little girl, We wanted
to give her a home, but they tried to charge us all this money,
so then they couldn't take her. So then she had to go back
or whatever. So then she gets to this couple, this these crazy people.
But all the pictures of her, she's got fully has baby teeth in
her mouth, right, So it wasn't until later that they were pictures of
her where she had Now she had adult teeth at an appropriate age to have
adult teeth, like ten, right, So they're all trying to claim that,
oh because they first of all, they said she had bruss, they
said she had pubiccare. Right. Well, tell you what that could be
very easily is she could have had precocious puberty. She I mean, I
don't totally disbelieve that she started getting some pubes, but that absolutely happens to
some girls. Well, why couldn't they have figured that out, Like,
especially when you're adopting a child with with what she had, Why didn't I
not like look into it, talk to doctors that specialize in blah blah up
because they are crazy people. They just decided to go off of, oh,
she's got pubic hair, so that means she's older than she like,
why not? Like the mom was just an abuser. She wanted to take
in a kid and then abuse them, and so they ostracized her to the
family when they were doing when she made her stand again lea to that ball
of hours heart. It was godfuse video and she was so clearly a little
girl at that time, was a little girl she had. Yeah, when
I know, there's no voice of reason to this documentary, You've got all
unreliable narrators at the beginning. So you finally get the legal expert. He
was like, guys, because I was saying to John, I'll watching this,
I'm like, she has baby teeth in the pictures. What are they
talking about. She's older, she has baby teeth in her mouth. Yeah,
you can't lie about that, you know. And then she at an
appropriate age stopped having baby teeth, but they when they adopted her, she
was like five going on six. She had baby teeth, right appropriate age,
tipe baby te Finally the legal expert is like, she had baby teeth.
It was like she's like shouting into the wind. Yea nobody, nobody
would Nope, we're not going to talk about how old she really was.
It's crazy. Yeah, insane documentary, Like the most insane thing. I
was so mad at the end of it. I was just like me too,
Like, yeah, did I just watch. I felt horrible for her,
I really did so coming. She lives lonely and oh my god.
And then when she was living in the apartment building, so they these people
put this little girl, kay, she's like ten. They put her in
her own apartment because they're like, oh, she scares us in a bad
neighborhood. Yeah, the child abuse things gets me like angrier and more upset
than anything else. So I don't even think I could watch. Yeah,
it's really sad. That's what really messes. And then they then the dad
comes into her apartment to visit her and he's like, why are you eating
that? Like she got some cookies or some donuts or something and she's like
um and he's like where did you get? That's yelling at her and she
goes one of the freaking neighbors gave it to her. And she's a little
kid at that point. Yeah, she's living by herself at age. How
old was she and there you'll partly tried to say she was like twenty two,
but she was ten. She would have had ten or eleven, right,
And then then but then the neighbors were like, oh, she was
doing this, and she was doing her like she was super annoying, like
she kept coming into our house and of course she kept coming in out because
she's a little girl. Yeah, that was It was so sad. Yeah.
So then when we were at I think we were we at the graduation
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Natalia Grace is like looking through our kitchen right now? You'll imagine at least
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watched? Yes, I want to know if you watched it? Tell me
orgasm inc. No, the story of this weird cult. Oh I love
this shit. Oh yeah, it's called Do you remember when it was a
big thing called OM. Oh I saw this one, dude, Yes,
I saw it, Yes, yes, yes is new now. I saw
this because I remember coming across this OM thing that somebody else told me about
was years ago, and I was like, what is this out of San
Francisco. Yeah, it's like a startup. Yeah, yeah, I saw
the dock. Yeah, yeah, so what did you think? It's a
new doc? It is new, but I saw it when of yeah,
okay, you saw it when Yeah. Oh it's so crazy creepy. I
love how it starts out. It's just it reminded me of m Elizabeth Holmes,
you know that kind of thing. Yeah, because it was started by
a woman. Sum it was similar to Nexium too. Yeah, I started
by a woman. But it was so freaking creepy, right, And it's
so weird and exploit It's like it's like watching um, it's like watching real
sex on HP where it's like I don't need I don't want to see these
people doing this. I know, but it's weird. How do they get
so many people so enthusiastic. It's like they lived together they like, you
know, right, like or they like it was like this big culty thing.
Yes, And I always I always don't understand how these people get so
they made have you do you know what this is? Kalin? It sounds
familiar, but no, I don't think that's a very interesting cult that where
they were all about female the female orgasm and female pleasure and they're going to
teach these guys like to stroke techniques to like take it's like orgasmic. Yes,
it's like orgasmic meditation. Right, So good concept. Right, where's
it going? So she starts selling these like classes, but meanwhile they get
all these like horny, kind of loser guys that like can't get a shame
and be part of this or like yeah, I want to like try to
give a woman an orgasm. Yeah, sure, Well then they can't.
They don't have enough women that are paying to be participants in this, so
they have to get some of the women that work there to like to do
it with right, to be like to have a demo on them. Like
so basically it was like these women were having to prostitute themselves, right,
and call it like part of their job, right, Like, well that's
part of your job. You have to let these guys like finger bang you.
Yeah. It was exactly yeah, yeah right, it's crazy crazy,
And she ended up she's arrested. Yeah, she went to jail. I
mean it was but it was like a whole staying operation, and like it
just got creepier and creepier, right, I was so I was trapped in
bed just like like Okay, what's next? I what's next? Next?
Thing? Right, I've you know what else I watched? Um? I
finished Flaked. Oh I watched the second Yes, yes, yes, unsatisfying
ending by the way, the second season, I know. I think they
thought there was going to be a third season. But funny you bring that
up because if you want something to watch, watch SmartLess the doc on Max
Oh okay, oh my god, so funny, Like those three guys are,
it's like watching So they did a documentary of taking the podcast on the
road. Okay, and it's really interesting because there's three of them. There's
Jason Bateman, Will Arnette and um uh gosh, Sean Hayes. Yeah,
okay, So the three of them they go and they they're doing. They're
going from like Boston, New York. They got like four major cities that
they're going to. They're bringing their podcasts, but they don't tell the other
ones. Each one picks a celebrity to be the guest, and they don't
tell them until they're on stage and they go, this next person graduated from
Harvard, lives in the city, blah blah blah, welcome, please welcome.
And it's like huge guests, big, huge, huge, celebrities who
well, that's that's how they do their podcast every week. Every week.
It's like they each book their own yeah, super a list guest and the
intro is I don't know. They just talk about their lives for a little
while and then they do that same thing and then it's like, hey it's
Ben Affleck. They go, oh my god, yes, I'll okay,
so one was Conan O'Brien. Okay, but they're I mean you, I
don't want to spoil it, but there's huge celebrities that they get. There's
one dud again and they had one guest. Did you see this, Galen?
I didn't see the doc. No, but just as a listener of
their podcast, they get the most a list, biggest people in the world
for they're hilarious and they're the doc it's like the first scene is at Los
Angeles and it shows them pulling up at a hangar in Los Angeles and they're
getting on a private plane and then the three of them were talking and this
is what they're you know, this is the first time they're taking their podcast
on the road. This is what we should do. Should we include the
should we pretend the audience isn't there, Like it's so fucking good and they're
so hilarious there. They cracked me. I've never laughed out loud like that
by what. And I know people love the podcast. Now I'm totally going
to be listening to that podcast. But if you watch it, it's like
it's like how they did it, like kind of like um Madonna did Truth
or Dare. It's like in Black and White, they're traveling, they're in
their hotel room. They're giving each other shit, you know about what they're
ordering. You know. Jason Bateman is like so uptight about shit, like
he's not like yeah, but he's like a like he's like, you know,
eats healthy. And then will Arnette, who's like in a recovery so
he's like eating cheeseburgers and and you know, French fries and ordering Sundays and
he's given him shit about you know, like you're gonna be shitting for you
know. It's hilarious. I highly recommend it. They're really funny, and
it's on Max Well. I do like Will Arnette and I think I love
him when I was watching the first season of it, because you told me,
I mean, there is so much like a talking Yeah, and it's
crazy, like it's all like a show about a right, Like if anybody's
curious about a there's a whole show about it. Yeah. But I told
you that I read that he lost his sobriety. He started drinking again making
the show because he it was so stressful making a show about having a relapse,
because it's about his character has a relapse in the show. Right,
So then he started drinking again. Yeah, and then is now sober again.
Right. He's great. I find him to be relatable. He's very
relatable, and he's fucking funny as fuck, Like he's hilarious. John told
me that he heard that he wasn't that nice to Amy Poehler when they were
married. Oh, I don't know. That's shame. What do you what
do you hear? I don't know. I haven't heard. I haven't heard
anything about Will Arnett, but just judging from seeing him in things over the
years and interviews, I feel the same way, like, super relatable,
super nice guy, but also yeah, an alcoholic, so I can see
how. Yeah, she's probably mean too. She's you know, because yeah,
she's successful in her own right, I'm sure she's got her heart about
her. Yeah really, well there you go. But yeah, he's uh,
you're gonna love it. You're gonna love that. You gotta watch it.
It's so good, Okay, smart listen, well listen. I literally
have nothing but time, I know. I mean, and you've seen the
Aaron Hernandez documentary or is that the podcast you listen to? Yes? Yes,
I listened to that podcast. It was so good. So I never
got to listen to the podcast, but I started. I know it's been
on Netflix for a while, but it's so good it is. Oh,
it's really good. I can rewatch that. Yeah, it's on Netflix.
I love rewatching stuff. The best thing and we've talked about this a million
times, but the best thing about rewatching something that because our memory. Yeah
I don't remember it, but I know it gives me a really good feeling
because I know I like it, right, Like I already know I like
it. I just don't remember why or what it's about. Right. It
really is like watching it again, but with the with the comforting feeling that
I'm going to really enjoy it. Yes, but not remember a single scene,
right, but I'm like, oh this is good. Of course that
I couldn't tell you what happened. The same with me. I know,
it's like having amnesia. Okay, another thing I watched and oh my god,
and John's here waiting for me, So I would I would have him
come in and argue with me about this if we feel like it. But
I watched Queer Ultimatum. Oh the Ultimatum, Oh Queer Addition. Oh it's
a you know, just a trash reality show. I loved it so much,
really loved it. John was like, this shit is so boring,
Like he's like watching lesbians, like on a reality show. They're all too
nice, like they're all too normal, Like they all are talking about their
childhood issues so much. But like, what's I don't understand the point.
It's like there's no drama. They're not really fighting. But I was like,
yes, they are really so the plenty so there was drama. I
thought there was plenty of drama. John doesn't agree. Okay, Oh,
John's here, Hi, John, what's happening talking to the mike. We're
talking about we're Ultimatum, So get this Lena literally on the way over here.
John goes, no, that's not that's you don't want to bring that
up on the podcast. That's like, it wasn't a good show. It's
boring. And I was like, oh, so you're you're my podcast producer.
Now she should listen more. Well, here we are talking about it.
It was it was boring. You need jealous testosterone to make those things.
They were all. It was just it was like, as I said,
it was like a Jonathan Brook album. You love that, but there's
no hook, no chorus. Interesting. See, I totally disagree because the
women, like, first of all, there were a lot of as they
call the mask women, masculine oh women, they were masculine lesbians. No,
I'm not familiar. John was like, oh, they call it mask
now. I was like, yeah, are you gonna know gate keep terms?
You're gonna tell like les it's what they can call themselves. He's like,
well, I don't know. I'd like to be consulted. So we're
watching it and there are like one of the girls kind of reminded me of
tig Okay, you know, just like just looked like a young a young
boy, super cute. I was like, Lynette would love love love this
girl. Yeah, her name is Zander oh Ador, Lynette would like,
has there been some changes that I haven't heard. Well, I don't know
if you know, but I have crushes on some of the L word actresses.
Well okay, were very very fam and no one. The one that
we loved there was what so Yarai and they sorry, she wasn't an actress.
This was the L word. That was the Reality one, real,
the real l oh the real Okay, yeah, I say the L word
was very Yes, no, I loved all. I watched all of that.
But then and I also we watched the Reality one, but yeah,
she was. There was one on the singer of a rockman, yes,
and Stephanie. I don't know if Stephanie loved her. And we reached out
to her, yes we did. We tweeted out her say she would do
it. Yeah, she tweeted back yeah, and then we never I don't
think we followed up, but yeah. But anyway, there was lots of
fighting. There was a lot of it was it was all very civilized.
It was nobody acted out. No, yes they did. What did they
do? What about the girl Mildred who was Okay, so there's this girl
Mildred and I want to say a guy but very masculine, presenting a woman
named Tiff okay, those two, Oh Tiff came out afterwards and did this
whole video about what a toxic like narcissist Mildred is and like all things that
we never saw on the show, covert narcissism, but they did. It
was on the reunion. You know you saw it, So you gotta wait
to the reunion. No, no, no, they talked about something that
happened off camera. No, John is okay, come on now. They
talked about I don't know what you want to listen to now. They had
fights on there and what about the the Asian couple with the Aussie and whatever,
and so Aussie was the mask presenting a couple and Sam was like the
fem and Aussie who spoke with an Australian accent, so they named themselves.
At the Nose was always like story like like could not deal like like allergic
to intimacy. So anytime that the Sam would bring something up like can we
talk about the fact that like whatever, like you kind of shut me down
when we were talking earlier in Austie would be like that's it, like storm
out. It was. It was crazy contrast this to last year, which
you almost made me watch the second time. Oh because why because I don't
remember any of that. I don't remember it either, Or there was a
straight ultimatum that it was so good, well I think I remember it now,
But because you had a lot of testosterone, right, knuckleheads, right,
who got very jealous and did a lot of batchet stupid stuff. Yeah,
they went to strip clubs. One guy looked like he was going to
assault another guy. One guy gave his number to another girl when he felt
like his existing girlfriend was getting along too Well, their egos got all beat
up, and they went and they acted like assholes, right, which makes
for great TV? Yeah, nobody did that in this They just talked.
Who made for the best tv? In the first ultimatum? Was the woman
like that crazy one alex Lexus that that she stormed off or whatever? Remember
her? She forced her boyfriend who was just beat down, right and h
and she forced him to propose to her. Right it righted? They cut
the two guys proposed to their girlfriends in the opening week. Yeah, I
remember that auction was about a third of the way through and there and they
just one guy's ego he was he wasn't going to be matched up. He
was gonna be alone. So suddenly just completely swallowed down his demand that his
wife became like a mega breeder and bring him ten children. He said,
I don't care if we ever have kids. Bullshit, right, But he
just to save face, he said, I don't care anymore. They got
married, they went off, and this alexis yeah. Then they were left.
It was like this blonde lots of plies. I remember that, Yeah,
I pret sure. She was like, I need a guy. So
she was talking to this guy named Colby, who was really cute, and
then she's like I think you're really cute, like your size. She's like,
but I need somebody who's like going to spend a lot of money on
me. And he was like yeah, peace out, right, and then
she was like what, oh dare you? And oh He's like yeah,
I just don't think it would work between us because like and she's like why
just tell me, why give me one reason? And he's like, I
just don't. I just don't see it. And so then the next day
she just won't even alone. Why won't we work out? And he goes,
I'm just not attracted to you. So she goes, well that's doesn't
make sense. She's like I'm very attractive, like she's very beautiful. Like
this is crazy. So then at the table on the day they're all supposed
to be choosing, remember the Yeah, she freaks out and she's like I
just want to say that he is not a good person. And he's just
sitting there like how'd I get her? Right? Right? I just said
like, we're not I'm not attracted to you, like I was trying to
be nice, and she's like, nope, he's a terrible person. You
know what he said. He told me I was ugly, and he told
me he hates me. And was I mean, she was the drama.
Oh yeah, she was nuts and we lost her. But again, look
at this, Lynnette. Remember it's a year remember it. You will not
remember the current one a week later. Yeah, because they're just they're not
violent with each other, and they're not quite as I mean, they're damaged,
they're damaged, but they're not crazy. Maybe tiff and hers were a
little crazy. But it all took place off camera. I'll tell you what.
John really loved that. I had to tune out of Chimp Chip Chip.
Oh that's this chimp empire. Chimp empire. See you're with me,
wait, what's the Chimp Empire Vampire? I'm what is it? A great
nature doc on It's They they went back and the backstory is is that they
shot a documentary about eight years ago. There's this huge troop of chimps in
the wild and Uganda or Uganda, and they and they realized and suddenly for
the first time it was like the biggest troop that they had ever studied.
Jane good Albi damn right um. And suddenly this big troop splits up and
so cousins and brothers or it's like the civil War God one troop goes into
the other or splits into the end. So and now they're warring factions.
So knowing that, they went back six years later they kept there was a
naturalist who was there and said, you know, call the producers and said,
this shit's about to go off. So they went back with cameras and
they documented and it's just you know, the alpha's you've got fighting within the
tribes. I love that ship and they're like running and attacking. It's amazing.
I love that. I can't so I want to see it because a
couple of yes, a couple of chimps die. Oh that is sad.
That's what they do. But it is, it's it's, it's it's the
wild, It's I was like, why don't the camera people like get in
there and like stoop it? Yeah, you can't. You can't do that.
I would if I was there, I'd be like, hey, hi,
hey, hey, hey, whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa? Yeah,
and then then they buy your nose off and eat all your fingers. Is
that why you asked me what was the name of that doc? Did you
find it the diction? Yeah, but we can't watch it because it's on
Paramount. We don't have to know it's on Discovery, but Discoveries Discovery is
part of Max. Now it's not on Max though. I looked it up
on Max and it's not there. And then I tried to look up where
to watch it, and it says it's on Paramount, and then I put
on Paramount for a free trial. But you can't watch that show. Give
it six months. Half of them are going to fold peacock, right,
I know. But it is called fatal attraction, right, you found it?
It's called fatal attraction. Yeah, I couldn't find the Yeah, I
found, Yes, and I found that episode two. There's a lot of
episodes. It is a lot of episode I'm telling you, it's pretty fascinating.
I might have to sign up for it. It's really good. Broken
hoof yeah there you great. What about Champion Player though? You just I'm
gonna watch the ship out right, and I can't wait for the reunion show.
I just want to see him come back and who's been humph Yeah,
I'm gonna find out. I Reddit like that with the gossip yea, who's
eating the chrysanthemum for right? Right? Oh my god? All right,
everybody, what a nice surprise. Thank you John Taylor from Duran, Duran,
thank you for joining us. Thank you, thanks everybody. All Right,
you're a parandol. Don't if it up. It's good letting go.