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Welcome to Second Listen Saturday on the
Parenting Roundabout podcast, where we share some

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fun moments from a past episode for
your weekend listening pleasure. Look for new

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episodes every Monday through Friday. All
those big and small things we do that

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make our kids lives easier And guess
what, do they even know that they're

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happening? Do we get? Thanks? No? So, Nicole, you

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this was you had felt like you
did a lot to make your daughter's life

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easier when she moved into her dormant. Yeah. I mean she has probably

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more needs than most in terms of
staying organized, because that's a skill that

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she has a lot of support with. So I spent a lot of time

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online, like researching you know,
different storage solutions, UM cubes versus um

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you know, underbred storage versus overhead
storage versus like all kinds of different you

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know, like command hooks and um, I don't know clips. And it's

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just been endless And I'm not sure
she understands how much ever went into that,

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because I was trying to help her
create a dorm room that she could

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work efficiently in and and kind of
stay organized in and and I know that's

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not you know, Okay, I
took over in that sense, and I

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really shouldn't have. But if I
had left it to her, you know,

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I needed to model what set her
up for success. That's set her

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up for success. Yeah. When
we were up back, he who here,

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I'm packing, you know, and
I'm pulling out all this stuff.

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My husband was like, what the
heck? She really? He couldn't believe

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it. Did you bring a label
maker? Oh gosh, I didn't.

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I never even thought about that.
Oh, how will she ever know where

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things are? Now? I know, just get one print everything, print

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all the labels his mail tour in
an envelope, and then say you expect

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to see the labeled things on social
media? Right. Well, I just

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kind of thought that might be a
little bit like over. She could just

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I did get a lot of the
seat through Ikea storage. But storage storage

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baskets are so set uptive, aren't
they. You start looking at them and

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you just need all of them everywhere. I know, And they look so

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pretty too, too, and they
matched her to bay Cover. They're irresistible.

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I know. I love the idea
of storage and organization. I am

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super into buying things for storage or
an organization. The actual storing and organizing

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is my week point. Yeah,
that's right. How about you guys.

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What do you guys do for your
kids behind the scenes. Well, things

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like buy gift cards so that they'll
have money for gas and to grab food

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or whatever. What a good idea. Yeah, so that they don't need

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a credit card. Yeah, I
mean they have. They have debit cards

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actually for just emergencies, but you
know, for fundraising for our figure skating

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club. One of the big things
is script where you can buy you buy

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a gift card for face for face
value, and then you get money back

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to your club. Right, can
you like go online and find out where

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that gift card has been spent and
trace their movements that way? No,

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okay, that like prepaid music cards. So I was just wondering about gift

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card. Well, this is like
I buy it for you know, the

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gas come the gas station that we
use or whatever. But you can't tell

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like which of the many quick trips. That is a weakness we've been to.

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But yeah, so I do that. I do things like, um,

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you know, just putting things in
place, like again organization storage,

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like putting things where they will be
seen or where they will be found when

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they're needed. Um that kind has
it set out and laid out for them

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night. Um just I don't know. I feel like there's so many things

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that I do with probably without even
thinking that's right. That this has all

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been reminding me about when my son
started college. He had at that time

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a cell phone, but it was
one of the It was like a flip

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phone, And I had this idea
that I was going to enter all his

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classes in there and set an alarm
so that he would know all by himself

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when it was time to get up
and go to class. Because I was

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I would drive him there and I
would stay all day at the community college

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and then drive him home and we
would be hanging out in the cafeteria.

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But I thought, you know what, he should have his own alarm.

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I shouldn't have to be telling him. So I programmed everything in that stupid

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flip phone with that. You know, you have to hit the number a

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certain amount of times to get a
letter. That is the reason my son

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got a got an iPhone. It's
like one semester of that and I'm I

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forget that because it wasn't to make
his life easier, it was to make

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my life easier. This is ridiculous. Yeah, but I used to,

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you know, in terms of you
know, he never appreciated that particularly.

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I don't know how much you even
paid any attention to it, but it

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was important to me. And I
would, you know, all through school,

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but even in college, I would, you know, put the names

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of his classes on his folders.
I would buy his folders. I would

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buy his notebooks. I would put
the names of his classes on them.

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I would put his name. I
would get everything all completely, you know,

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put together, no thank you.
You know, they would soon be

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he would still forget them or not
know which was which. I was so

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careful. I would put labels on
things. I would you know, everything

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every textbook was, you know,
put in his backpack on the right day.

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You know. I did all of
that stuff. I don't know if

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he could have done it himself,
but he certainly never had to. It's

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let me do that for you,
honey. You just focus on learning things,

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and I will completely facilitate every other
thing. I will select your classes

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on the computer, I will buy
your textbooks. I will do all of

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this. And you know, yeah, I was. I was the administrative

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assistant throughout his college years. This
was my job, and and honestly,

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you know, all through school pretty
much, but the putting the things in

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the backpack the night before was always
a thing that I did. Yeah,

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So I just would have checklists.
I would used to eat checklists, you

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know, and lay them out on
the table and put her vitamins beside it.

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Oh my gosh, my son was
pretty good. I still have to

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send him reminders that, Yeah,
yeah, she was very She had a

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lot of support. So well,
I mean that's that's a legit thing for

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moms to do. I think my
you know, since my kids will have

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disabilities, I probably take it a
little too far, you know. I

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just want to take all of that
stuff off their plate because it's frustrating.

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And my daughter, as she's gotten
older, has taken over more and more

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of that and I really appreciate that, and I really think that's great and

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support her doing it and try not
to nitpick that she's not doing anything.

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I would do it, even though
it's hard. Um, but my son

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is like, oh fine, cool, I'm just through my life. You

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take care of everything, will you? And uh, you know, I'm

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kind of okay with that. Hot
so you're giving me a purpose to live.

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Yeah, thank you. But I
recently, I mean his room was

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sort of like something out of hoarders. So we recently did a cleanup and

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he got rid of a bunch of
old stuff and I bought because this is

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what you do in these circumstances,
lots and lots of storage bins. Right,

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it's an opportunity to buy storage bins. Yeah, I know. We'll

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put storage bins, honey, and
then you'll still have it and you can

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see it through the clear plastic of
the storage bin, but it'll be up

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off the floor. And he's like
been extremely slow to take up the you

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know, the challenge of filling said
bin. I got him a whole bunch

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of small ones because he has like
these drawers and drawers full of keys.

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He collects keys. And I thought, I know, we'll get little storage

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bins and you can put some keys
in each storage bin and you can sort

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them and then you can see them
and then you can play with them.

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It'll be great. And he said, oh yeah, sure, they're empty.

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So and the drawers still full of
keys. So it's like, well,

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it's at least out of sight.
The stuff that was on the floor

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is I in bins or gone you
know I have to accept partial success,

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right, Yeah. But every time
I walk in his room and see those

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empty bins, I want to fill
them up so much. And I got

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little I got little carabiners that he
could hang individual keys on, and I

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put them all over his bookshelves and
they're empty mostly. And you know,

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if I get a storage item and
do not fill it, it's because I'm

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busy and I have stuff to do, and you know, priorities. When

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I buy things for him and he
doesn't use them, what's the matter right

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now? You can't possibly have anything
more important than fil these up for me.

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And the family pathology gets passed down
from generation to generation. You know,

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he bothers me when I don't feel
stuff up. I still don't feel

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it up, but it bothers me. Right now, it's not gonna bother

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This is the essential difference.

