WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.759 --> 00:00:07.799 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jagon Zalaz on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.839 --> 00:00:14.519 fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions kat z 3 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:19.440 R two SA at iHeartRadio Station Goo. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to 4 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:22.199 I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. 5 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:26.719 He's Jagan Sauce. We have ant least today you remember your name. At 6 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:33.399 least that's kind of you. It's a good it's a good starts. I'll 7 00:00:33.479 --> 00:00:38.320 go a great start. Great, welcome to Tuesday. I think we have 8 00:00:38.320 --> 00:00:42.039 a pretty good show today. I don't want to jinxit, but heah, 9 00:00:42.079 --> 00:00:44.479 yeah, we're gonna have a someone from Saint Lewis and then we have a 10 00:00:44.520 --> 00:00:48.280 Dea Barnes and Jada J. Williams right on the show. At the same 11 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:52.159 coming off a National Player of the Year award, she was named that she 12 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:56.159 was named Nasty APS Player of the Week the week. Wow, yeah, 13 00:00:56.200 --> 00:01:00.119 which never happens, and well it's the first year they've done this, but 14 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:03.040 hey, she did a great job that she had done. Yeah, it 15 00:01:03.120 --> 00:01:06.879 just came over about an hour ago. So I'm sure if you had that 16 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:10.480 on your breaking news, but you can talk about it, right, So 17 00:01:10.599 --> 00:01:15.400 yeah, we're looking forward to that. We'll ask Ada some questions and see 18 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:18.319 what she says. I know, I know Jade already tweeted this on her 19 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:22.280 on her feed, but you know we do need to ask her if she 20 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:26.079 called bank. We're going to go there. Yes, yeah, I guess 21 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:29.959 Friday night was what let's say it. That's why she's ona because of those 22 00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:33.079 two shots, right. You know, it's when when you've been in those 23 00:01:33.719 --> 00:01:36.799 I'm sure you've got I know you miss a lot of things, but you 24 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:42.040 also when you get hot, it's like you get up momentum and you can 25 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:44.840 say boo and it works. Look, I've got a couple of holes in 26 00:01:44.879 --> 00:01:47.959 one as bad as I am. We got two holes in Okay, yeah, 27 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:51.640 so that see the stuff happens. Stuff happened. That must be the 28 00:01:51.680 --> 00:01:55.519 moment blind squirrel, blind squirrel dude. Now, and I will say, 29 00:01:55.560 --> 00:02:00.760 it's been twenty plus years since I had one. A moment stopped. It's 30 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:05.359 shocked. It was finite. I haven't been able to get any momentum since. 31 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:07.439 Right, So you're getting it. See it doesn't work, Well, 32 00:02:07.479 --> 00:02:13.000 it's finite. Yeah, but you got a little while. It's one step 33 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:15.120 to that door, step to that door. Okay, no, cool, 34 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:20.520 A lot of things going on. Big game tomorrow obviously in in in Tempe, 35 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:23.199 and it's hard to say it's a big game, but every game is 36 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:24.439 big because they want to win. They have to win all these games. 37 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:29.520 I don't think they want to take any chances, uh that that Washington State 38 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:30.919 will lose another one. All the games are at home, and there's only 39 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:35.240 three of them left. Arizona needs to win all its games and that's the 40 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:38.800 only way they can be sure that they win the league. Uh. And 41 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:42.280 plus again, they're playing for a one or a two seed right now that 42 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:46.280 in most places they're still on the one line. I think, you know, 43 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:50.719 so in North Carolina, which is kind of buying for it to North 44 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:53.919 Carolina, they almost lost last night at home. So it's it's not just 45 00:02:54.000 --> 00:02:58.759 Arizona's world, it's other people's world. Yeah, you know, yeah, 46 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:00.879 I mean other people are gonna lose games. And then there's still the conference 47 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:04.680 tournaments and all that kind of stuff. But you want to get to the 48 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:07.080 regularly to be a one seed, you got to get to the regular seed 49 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:10.120 into the regular season and say you're the conference champ. I think, yeah, 50 00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:13.080 you know, I'm a I'm a I'm a strong believer in that. 51 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:15.919 I've been one. On the football side, it said, if you don't 52 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:19.719 win your conference championship, you can't be in the playoff. But obviously I've 53 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:23.439 a ruled one that. But uh, you know, I think it matters 54 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:28.919 it certainly. If I'm in the room with the with the with the basketball 55 00:03:28.919 --> 00:03:31.919 committee and I've got two teams that are about even, one's the conference champion, 56 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:36.879 ons you're easily going with the conference champion exactly exactly. So I think 57 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:40.000 it's important as you should go with the player of the year from the team 58 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:46.039 that does the best in the conference, unless unless it's somebody who's so outstanding, 59 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:49.159 I mean, so damn good, so hiad and shoulders above everybody else 60 00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:51.960 that you can't help but give it to them. And there's nobody like that 61 00:03:52.039 --> 00:03:54.719 in the league on any of the other teams that you can say they should 62 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:59.960 they should be over the best player on the best team, and that's how 63 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:02.520 up and then to that to your point, that has happened. But sometimes 64 00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:06.120 the best player is because he has to carry that team, you know, 65 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:12.199 j T and that's example. He became in college player there because he had 66 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:14.919 he was the guy. Yeah, but he was you know, I mean 67 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:17.680 he was so good they had to say, regardless of what your team has 68 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:19.959 done, you're so damn good. You need to be you need to get 69 00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:24.879 this, you know, and and I requite you know what's happened, you 70 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:27.879 know over the over the years with the Heisman Trophy. You know, there 71 00:04:27.879 --> 00:04:30.000 are times when they give it to the best player and the best team. 72 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:32.480 But when the best player on the best team is not in the East, 73 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:35.160 they give it to who they think was the best player, and that just 74 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:39.279 pisses me off. You're gonna set me off again. But in this case, 75 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:43.839 Caleb Love, you know, he I'm not gonna say he's carrying this 76 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:47.199 team because they got so many other really good pieces, but he's first of 77 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:50.600 all, he's better than everybody else. And then he's on the best team. 78 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:55.079 And then and you know, Dad Boyle tried to make a case for 79 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:58.600 kJ kJ Simpson, like stop right, right right, And that's what we 80 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:00.920 talked about last week. Remember there's that guy, but the other the other 81 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:03.519 kid who's going to be at for number one draft pick. I didn't see 82 00:05:03.519 --> 00:05:06.759 a number one draft pick either time that I saw Colorado Arizona dominated them. 83 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:10.680 Yeah, yeah, no question. They may be good, but not this 84 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:14.279 year, not for the not for the required game. There's nobody so good, 85 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:18.120 so good that they should be over you know, Caleb Love, who's 86 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:21.000 the best player on the best team, right right? Okay, So and 87 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:28.639 the next two hours is uh is idea and uh oh wait? Well, 88 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:32.160 first we got uh buddy of mine from Saint Louis the Kansas City Star. 89 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:36.000 He's a columnist for them. He he's the one that introduced me to uh 90 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:41.040 to Desiree a year ago now for the tournament, and I was very impressed 91 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:44.079 and I never thought she would come here. But we'll talk about that. 92 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:47.040 He thinks highly of her. Uh and just circumstances, because there are other 93 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:51.800 circumstances buyouts, I don't know, I saw story yesterday or so buyouts and 94 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:56.199 what it all means the uh, the oversight committee, blah blah blah. 95 00:05:56.240 --> 00:06:00.399 Right, So we'll talk all about that in about eighteen minutes. Okay, 96 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:02.399 cool, okay, cool, Anything else going on with you, guys, 97 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:05.439 No, you know, just uh, it's been a busy day for me, 98 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:10.560 you know, just doing stuff. Your other jobs. Yeah, you 99 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:14.839 know, we're we're starting to approach deadline. On our our magazine. A 100 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:17.160 couple of good stories by Steve rivera coming up in biz Tucson that'll come out 101 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:21.600 and come out in April. One on Corbett's the pickleball place. I guess 102 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:25.120 it's sports. Youre lated, we can talk about that. Have you been 103 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:28.360 to Corbett's. Yeah, yeah, it's nice. Have you been. I 104 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:31.480 haven't been there, but I've heard really good things. It shot it not 105 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:34.800 shocked me. It was pleasantly really nice. Yeah, it's big, it's 106 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:38.360 spacious, a lot of TVs. I've not been for the pickleball. I've 107 00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:41.439 only been there for the food, which which is I drove past it. 108 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:44.800 Yeah, super spacious. Yeah, they have the courts inside and outside, 109 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:47.839 but I've only drove past it. But I don't see any tables anything. 110 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:53.319 Just have all that. There's a lot of a lot of room inside and 111 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:57.879 tables in a patio and stuff like that. But it's very cool, right. 112 00:06:57.920 --> 00:07:02.720 And then the other story was h Tim Mecca, a cyclist, cyclist, 113 00:07:03.199 --> 00:07:08.160 very very very big Arizona booster. Yeah, he's one of the fathers 114 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:10.680 of the year. So Steve's written a profile and him they'll be going out 115 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:13.680 and uh, okay, yeah, enough about me, let's move on. 116 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:15.800 Uh And you're trying to get a job, trying to get a job. 117 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:24.160 You four years a five for you? Hey, if I could stayed there 118 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:25.839 for ten, I would have stayed in Ure for ten. Man, the 119 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:29.120 real world sucks. But you look at me like, what the hell? 120 00:07:29.199 --> 00:07:31.519 Kind of questions that are obvious? You're going to miss this place. I 121 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:35.839 am. I am going to miss it, but I'm excited for to start, 122 00:07:36.279 --> 00:07:41.399 you know, my career and start my my real life. But I 123 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:44.800 have no idea where that's going to be, what that's gonna entail. Okay, 124 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:46.519 okay, you might end up finding a job in PR or something. 125 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:49.680 I don't want to do that. But okay, because you're a media girl, 126 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:54.600 you're a median person. Yeah, okay, okay, well anything else? 127 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:58.639 Big games last night, coach the coach storming thing continues to be continues 128 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:01.639 the big news. I guess they some conference calls with some of the big 129 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:03.959 players, and you know, I sent you did you see my thing? 130 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:07.959 From Richard Jefferson. I didn't really. I didn't like I watched that because 131 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:13.000 he's the one that said billis is full of it. You can't legend you're 132 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:18.079 not gonna corral your two thousand people. Like I played a top program and 133 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:20.319 when we got beat by an underdog, they store on the court and he 134 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:24.199 said, and that the parts and they did, and stuff happens. You 135 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:28.319 remember the one that happened football this year of some guy got plastered by some 136 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:31.720 dude, some prominent guy, and he was in full pads. Blah blah 137 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:35.200 blah. If you're gonna be if you're gonna act foolish, you're gonna get 138 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:39.080 foolish prize, right and and that and yeah, and that's the thing I 139 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.879 mean, I think you have to you have to look at look if you 140 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:45.000 if you want to run on the court, then you know you could tell 141 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:48.919 the buzzer you're you're risking yourself. Okay, sure, and but but you 142 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:52.720 know we're such a litigating society. You can you know, I could see 143 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:56.360 you know, somebody somebody running on the court getting a forearm shiver and breaking 144 00:08:56.399 --> 00:09:01.279 his jaw. You'll see the player probably or the school. Probably they'll sue. 145 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:05.039 They'll sue the school for not keeping him off. You know what, 146 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:09.879 maybe we get cough on the show and say give him that Sinnario lawyer and 147 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:13.279 say what would happen? Yeah, you know, or or or the flip 148 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:18.240 side, you know, can if Kyle Fieldpa they say it's a spring, 149 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:20.720 He's gonna be fine. Yeah, sure, that's that's he's probably got beat 150 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:24.080 up in a game. And yeah, but let's say he blew out his 151 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:28.240 knee and his NBA career is does the school have some does Wake Forest have 152 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:31.879 some liability for that? Yeah? Yeah, And that did an interesting conver 153 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:35.919 Guys, you think they should band court storumming? Sure? Thing is the 154 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:39.039 thing is? I think they should, but I don't think they can. 155 00:09:39.159 --> 00:09:41.159 But how Yeah, it's it's the how that's going to be the take. 156 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:46.080 Yeah. I think for football it's like much safer because it's such a bigger 157 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:50.080 space. And I rushed the field at Arizona before and you have to like 158 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:54.080 hop over the thing. It takes a while. But in basketball it's like 159 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:58.480 they're on the court two seconds after the buzzer. You're not the only one 160 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:05.200 he in seventy eight And how was that no problem? Did? I didn't 161 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:09.200 run into any any any anybody else any other players? That was it big? 162 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:11.200 There was a big court storm. Yeah, there's pictures of it that 163 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:13.279 you go back in the in the in the Actually, you know, I 164 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:18.600 field stormed one time too, That's what I'm saying that Arizona. But I 165 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:22.000 said, Arizona. Back in my day, there was like about a three 166 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:24.720 foot high chain link fence at the bottom, not the wall they have. 167 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:28.480 I was five foot one and I could get over that and with no problem. 168 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:33.759 Really, yeah, so it happens. But but you know, you 169 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:35.159 have the guy in one of the field storms this year, a guy who 170 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:39.440 went over the wall and blew out his knee either hipped over something or something 171 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:41.919 else when he hit the ground. There was another guy hit the goal postion 172 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:46.720 I think fell fell in h So you know what, you know, what's 173 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:50.919 the liability there for for a school or whatever I think for this is getting 174 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:54.720 so much attention because it's Duke too, which I guess it was a small 175 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:58.159 If it was a different school, this would not But it's Duke. We 176 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:01.279 said that yesterday, We said that yesterday things happened to when things happened, 177 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:05.960 clearly not happy. It's after the Arizona game. My mom's like, doesn't 178 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:09.559 even care Arizona one. She's like, oh my god, this happened. 179 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:11.279 Yes, I met your mom the other day. Yeah, the game nice. 180 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:16.080 Yes, I've forgotten to say. Oh what about those duchies? Yeah, 181 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:18.840 that's for another day. She probably would have been stressing out. We 182 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:24.759 were checking the score as Arizona playing. Okay, what else day? Anything 183 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:30.240 else going on? Softball? Baseball? Uh, that's coming up here soon 184 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:31.879 this weekend. Well, no, I mean, and I know we we 185 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:39.279 we talked about it late in the show yesterday that you know, Kaylin Gilbert's 186 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:41.879 not coming back, right, and so you know, we'll see I'm sure 187 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:45.120 to be able to say something that we'll say because we have to ask her 188 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:46.440 something. But you know what, what do you you know, what do 189 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:50.480 you do with that? Right? Okay? Uh? And she's done well. 190 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:52.120 There as a lot of questions, a lot of weird questions to ask 191 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:56.000 her, and Jada will be on here as well. Anybody what a call? 192 00:11:56.039 --> 00:11:58.799 Please do? Five two four one, six, seventy four forty We 193 00:11:58.840 --> 00:12:01.519 have about three minutes before we go to break and then we'll get here. 194 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:07.919 Gregorian out of Saint Louis So and the tournament's uh three weeks away, right, 195 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:13.440 tournament and PAC twelve is three weeks away. Three weeks from tomorrow tomorrow, 196 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:18.440 Today, Tomorrow, Tuesday, tomorrow, so Wednesday, could you go 197 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:20.279 up on a Wednesday? You go Tuesday, I go Tuesday. I going 198 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:24.399 on Tuesday to get ready for one, so I might have a get show 199 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:28.519 on Tuesday. You'll have an leave Wednesday, no show Wednesday, Thursday or 200 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:30.840 Friday, because we're not gonna be able to do our show from Vegas. 201 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:35.279 Yeah. Yeah, and then the week later is the PA the n C 202 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:39.559 Double A Tournament. Yeah, okay, okay, anything else as far as 203 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:41.960 I know. I mean, you know, I've been so out of pocket 204 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:46.120 today, Steve. I you know, you know it could be dark outside 205 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:48.960 and I wouldn't know. I mean, you know, the sun could have 206 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:50.879 not come up and I wouldn't have known it, because in fact, I 207 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:54.799 did get up before the sun came up today because of my words. But 208 00:12:56.039 --> 00:13:00.720 uh, now you know, you know, big game, Borrow, it's 209 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:03.360 a big deal. As he said, Arizona's got to just win those games. 210 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:07.440 I saw, I saw that, and I'd even mentioned this idea. 211 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:11.679 But I'm not sure how. Tommy Lloyd went on Van Pelt last night, 212 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:13.399 and I don't know if you saw that or not. It was tweeted out 213 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:18.039 and he asked him about Boswell and it's it's almost and I said this yesterday. 214 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:22.080 I think Jay, it reminded me when Tommy talked about it, and 215 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:26.080 when I asked him about the incident on Saturday, he was almost apologetic that 216 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:28.919 he had to get on him, right, I do it out of love. 217 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:31.240 It's unfortunate, but I have to do it. And look what he 218 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:35.039 just said or somebody that was said, I got to tell these guys to 219 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:35.799 play. Yeah, you know, you know what I'm saying. It's it's 220 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:39.000 a different generation now. And he said the same thing last night, and 221 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:41.559 then he and then he said that, Oh, by the way, Boswell 222 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:48.240 sent him a text apologizing for what he did. And I'm thinking, this 223 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:50.279 is this is what we live. This is different than what I used to 224 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:54.000 do thirty years ago, twenty years ago. You know, you yell at 225 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:58.200 a kid, your dad, I'm a dad. No apologies. Just listen 226 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:01.799 to me. Yeah, just do what I ask you to do. It's 227 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:03.519 you know, it's for the benefit of both of us, Yes, exactly, 228 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:09.840 the all. Uh, this hurts me more than it hurts you. 229 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:15.480 I brought you into this world, took you out. You've never heard that. 230 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:22.320 I'm sure you count it exactly. So no, I I uh no, 231 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:28.159 I mean it's interesting what how things have become between coaches and players. 232 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:33.159 You know, you think back to Frank Cush punching his under the you know, 233 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:37.159 under the helmet and those kinds of things. Yes, but you could 234 00:14:37.159 --> 00:14:41.120 do those things back then, and he just happened to get caught. And 235 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:46.200 you know, the read kid on the on the tape. No, it's 236 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:50.120 a different generation. And we'll move on. 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This is I 310 00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:17.640 on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez Son Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. 311 00:20:17.960 --> 00:20:22.039 Subscribe now to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app just Surgeon I on the Ball. 312 00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:26.759 Hey, welcome back to I'm the BBAU here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. 313 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:29.640 I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jaginsaus. Now on the phone, we have 314 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:33.759 Vajea Grigorian from the Kansas City Star columnistair a longtime friend. Baja. How 315 00:20:33.799 --> 00:20:38.240 are you. I'm good. I'm glad to be with you. Guys. 316 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:42.319 You've been a very busy man in the last few months covering the Kansas City 317 00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:45.880 Chiefs. We'll get to that in a little bit. But who would have 318 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:48.799 thought, I do, only eleven months ago seeing you in Sacramento after not 319 00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:53.000 seeing you for a while, and then this woman comes up to our conversation. 320 00:20:53.039 --> 00:20:56.400 I'm thinking, who is this woman? And you say, oh, 321 00:20:56.880 --> 00:21:00.319 this is the Missouri ad and I'm thinking wow. And then she said she's 322 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:03.559 from you know, work in Tucson, And I'm thinking wow. And then 323 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:07.079 I'm thinking, would she be a good person for a job here that heke 324 00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:11.519 left? And I'm thinking, she's not leaving Missouri. What did you think? 325 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:18.039 Well, there's a lot to all this, but but but it is 326 00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:21.200 I had forgotten that you'd met her that day. That is so interesting. 327 00:21:21.240 --> 00:21:26.079 Now in hindsight, you know, there's there's a few things going on here, 328 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:30.519 some of which I'm surmising, some of which has been reported. But 329 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:33.359 I think, you know, there is there is a tug for her to 330 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:37.279 go back to some of her roots here. But I also think that there's 331 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:42.839 just been some for lack of a better term, kind of obnoxious action by 332 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:48.880 the border curators with you know, creating oversights and things like that that I 333 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:55.119 think are intended to maybe have a little bit of a chilling effect on her. 334 00:21:55.640 --> 00:21:59.960 And as you'll come to see in the in the weeks ahead. She's 335 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:06.519 a very dynamic person, very principled person. She does not need somebody riding 336 00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:10.319 herd over her. And I again, i'm sort of surmising this from from 337 00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:14.279 one of the policies they created and things like that. I don't have primary 338 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:18.960 knowledge that you know, she was offended by that, but my goodness, 339 00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:21.920 where I come from, you get a great person to work for you and 340 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:25.640 you let them go. Yeah. No, that well, and that's the 341 00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:27.799 thing, you know, because we're sitting here in Tucson and she said, 342 00:22:27.799 --> 00:22:32.079 you know, I'm home, and I like, but you know, there 343 00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:33.960 has to be a whole lot more to you know, when you're making it 344 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:38.920 a decision like this is a life decision for somebody, you know, you 345 00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:41.680 know, with her family and the whole bit. So you know, I 346 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:48.559 don't think there was anybody who suspected it was just that. Yeah, and 347 00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:55.200 look so yeah, there's some fluid fluid parts and all this. She does 348 00:22:55.319 --> 00:22:57.599 like a challenge, and I understand it to be a challenging time there. 349 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:03.000 But it's interesting right as I understand that she's not going to be paid quite 350 00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:10.279 as much and obviously at least the thought process right now is that you're leaving 351 00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:15.200 the stability and even the thriving aspect of the SEC for you know, a 352 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:21.160 great institution that that's in a time of flux. So it on paper, 353 00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:26.079 it's really probably not what you would draw up. I don't think. Yeah, 354 00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:27.319 yeah, no question. I was wanting to ask her about you know, 355 00:23:27.640 --> 00:23:33.359 you're having great success right now football, basketball, you know, why 356 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:36.559 come? And then that's when she set her heart. It's a heart move 357 00:23:36.680 --> 00:23:40.400 things like that. But I think you hit it. And the question was 358 00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:42.799 asked from somebody else about the oversight committee and if that played a part, 359 00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:49.079 of course, she said no, yeah, And and you know she's I 360 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:56.119 think too gracious and dignified to to take that on even if she does feel 361 00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:59.839 that, and I don't Again, I don't know that she feels that. 362 00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:03.079 It does. It just strikes me that there's more than meets the eye. 363 00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:07.519 I guess that's the best way I can put it. And but I would 364 00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:12.240 say Missouri's losses is Arizona's gain. I mean, I think you know, 365 00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:17.880 she's somebody that in the just a few years I've known her, is somebody 366 00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:21.359 you can talk to about any number of things. She's very smart on the 367 00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:25.319 issues. She likes to listen. Uh, you will, you will learn 368 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:29.119 or if you haven't seen or heard about this already, I mean she will. 369 00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:34.079 She will seek out student athlete experiences. I mean she'll be getting to 370 00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:38.240 know. However many student athletes there are there, they'll know her and she'll 371 00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:44.640 know them and it and it will be sincere. So I think you'll be 372 00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:48.079 if you weren't already struck by her presence that way, I think you will 373 00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:52.519 be over time. Well, let me we want to I guess I want 374 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:55.960 to go there because you know, obviously, when when somebody comes in like 375 00:24:55.960 --> 00:24:59.240 that, in a position like that in Tucson, Arizona. I mean, 376 00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:03.839 she's a big deal here in town. Every athletic director you know has been, 377 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:07.519 you know, dealing with boosters, dealing with old guys in the media 378 00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:11.319 like Steve and I you know, just all those things that she's going to 379 00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:15.359 have to do. You know, where her strengths as far as that goes. 380 00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:18.680 Who you know, who's gonna who's gonna have who's gonna have the best 381 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:25.400 impression of her when she gets when she gets here. Well, okay, 382 00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:30.200 so I say this, I'm not sure she's exactly easy to work for because 383 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:36.200 she's very demanding, but she's also a get it done person. But I, 384 00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:38.839 at least as I understand it, well, I shouldn't say it that 385 00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:41.160 way. I mean she told me. I mean, she gets up about 386 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:45.519 three point thirty to run, and she's as soon as she's got something on 387 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:48.759 her mind. She's texting staff members at three thirty or four in the morning. 388 00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:52.000 Now mercifully, I think they've learned they don't have to respond at three 389 00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:57.279 thirty or four in the morning. But she's a she's always percolating. So 390 00:25:57.480 --> 00:26:03.640 I I think that, uh, you know, she'll she'll sharpen things, 391 00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:08.039 she'll she'll uh she'll bring a human touch, but she'll be very practical too. 392 00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:11.880 And you know, I don't want to claim that I know all the 393 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:15.640 issues that are having to be dealt with there. I just know it's been 394 00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:21.319 a difficult time. So I think that, uh, she'll be a person 395 00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:25.160 of action, no doubt. She's been there three years. From Vegas. 396 00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:30.519 Did she have or how much of the influence did she have with the the 397 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:37.880 football and basketball successes? Recently, Well, she hired Dennis Gates, and 398 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:41.079 you know Dennis that hire looked a lot better a year ago. Right now, 399 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:47.519 Missouri's zero to fourteen in the SEC. But I do think Dennis is 400 00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:52.880 an exceptional coach in many ways. And I think they just, you guys 401 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:56.519 know, in the nil transfer portal era, if you're if you're the coin 402 00:26:56.559 --> 00:27:02.119 of the realm, is that then things can go go awry. They do 403 00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:07.839 have a top five recruiting class next year coming in. I assume they'll do 404 00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:11.680 much better next year. And I think if you're around Dennis Gates, you'll 405 00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:15.920 understand why you could have faith in him. I think it was a very 406 00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:21.920 shrewd hire. And you know, Dennis is fairly young, only run a 407 00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:25.160 program for about three or four years at Cleveland State, but she had had 408 00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:29.880 him on her list as far back as when she was at I think at 409 00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:33.799 Virginia Tech. If she's she's had a lot of different jobs, doing a 410 00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:38.440 lot of different things that are kind of the mortar of of why she's so 411 00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:45.079 capable. She did not hire the football coach, She inherited him, and 412 00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:51.160 you know, she was maybe facing a tough situation if they hadn't made a 413 00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:56.559 turn this year, but they made quite a dramatic turn and she had to 414 00:27:56.720 --> 00:28:00.359 she had to let go of the previous basketball coach, Conzo Martin, which 415 00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:06.200 I bring I bring up because Conzo's just a prince of a man, a 416 00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:10.400 wonderful guy, and just couldn't seem to get it turned at Missouri, and 417 00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:14.559 Desiree had known him for years, she had interviewed him when he was hired 418 00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:18.480 at Tennessee when she was working there. It was very difficult for her. 419 00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:21.279 And that's why I bring it up. I mean, she'll she'll do what 420 00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:26.799 she has to do, and even in hard cases like that. Yeah. 421 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:29.960 No, Well, and and that's the thing, you know, you get 422 00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:32.400 it into a job like that, and you have to have the stomach, 423 00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:36.480 you know, to be able to do those things. Some people have it, 424 00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:38.559 some people don't. You know, some people, some athletic directors will 425 00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:41.240 let a coach hang around and hang around and hang around because they don't want 426 00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:44.960 to do, you know, make the hard call. Others will you have 427 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:48.480 the quick trigger? Where do you think she sits on stuff like that? 428 00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:52.359 Because the big question that that happens is that they just hired a football coach 429 00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:55.480 that she didn't hire. She's coming in, She's true, she's inheriting a 430 00:28:55.559 --> 00:29:00.119 coach who has yet to coach a game here in Arizona. Yeah, and 431 00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:03.759 I look, I don't think that that bodes ill for the coach or anything. 432 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:07.440 I just think that she'll want to get to know him. She'll want 433 00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:11.920 to see how this works. I don't. I don't think she's the sort 434 00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:15.079 of person who would just say, well, I didn't hire him, he's 435 00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:18.160 not my guy. I don't. I don't think she will think that way. 436 00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:23.000 I do suppose he's auditioning in a new way for a new boss. 437 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:29.240 But I don't. I don't. I don't think to myself, boys, 438 00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:33.680 this has to be a problematic. I mean, obviously, a couple three 439 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.799 years into it, I guess you'll you'll get a feel for whether it's a 440 00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:41.920 harmonious relationship and how things are going. But I think I think he'll feel 441 00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:49.440 supported, uh and uplifted even I really believe that right well, by your 442 00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:53.640 scenario and people who've spoken, she's very visible. She'll be out and about 443 00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:57.400 talking to a lot of people. A lot of teams. Have you spoken 444 00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:02.880 to her, interviewed her since she decided to come here. No, I 445 00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:07.759 was in Costa Rica on vacation, and I just I just sent her a 446 00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:11.720 text and told her I was sorry I would miss her, but you're right, 447 00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.200 she'll be very visible, to the point where you wonder if there's two 448 00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.319 of her, because she's she's really everywhere. And I don't know if you 449 00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:22.160 would have noticed this last year, Steve at the NCAA tournament game, but 450 00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:26.240 I remember sitting I was kind of sitting behind the Missouri bench, and at 451 00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:30.440 one point I saw her over there picking up howels behind the bench, So 452 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:34.200 she was she was pretty directly involved. Of course, her son there's a 453 00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:37.519 walkout on the Missouri basketball team, so maybe she won't be quite as uh. 454 00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:42.000 I don't know if it's his towel he wasn't playing, but she'll be 455 00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:47.559 She'll be very very present. What was the surprise factor over there? That 456 00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:52.240 she would leave an SEC school and come to a place like Arizona that won, 457 00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:57.039 As you mentioned, it's got some serious financial challenges. But two it's 458 00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:00.480 you know, it's headed over the big big twelve, coming out of a 459 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.640 conference that fell apart. Well, you know, we're people going, what 460 00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:10.200 the hell is she doing? I don't think that. I think it was 461 00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:14.119 more like the way I put it. I think people are like, well, 462 00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:15.839 what don't we know, right, there's got to be more to this 463 00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:22.119 than we know. And I look, I think it's been you know, 464 00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:26.839 sort of behind the scenes thought for a year or two that the university curators 465 00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:33.039 for wielding I don't want to say meddling. I mean it's their their job 466 00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:37.519 to to you know, oversee the university. But I think we're in the 467 00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:42.279 middle of more things than than you might want or expect if you're the athletic 468 00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:48.039 director, including I think maybe some contract matters and some things like that. 469 00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:56.039 And I guess I can't say I was startled. I was surprised and you 470 00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:00.920 know, disappointed. I think she's been really good for the school and good 471 00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:04.720 that's good for the state. But I yeah, I think if you've been 472 00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:09.599 following kind of closely, you wouldn't be you know, jarred. It's just, 473 00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:13.440 uh, you still like to fill in the missing pieces of why this 474 00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:17.160 was the move now right right? And maybe lestlie Uh. I think it's 475 00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:22.519 no short order that she's a very good recruit not recruiter, but the she 476 00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:28.440 gets money pretty easily from the donors or not easily, but she goes after 477 00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:31.759 it. Yeah, I would think that I don't you know, I don't 478 00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:35.640 have a ledger on me. I don't I don't know exactly how she she 479 00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:39.160 did, but I mean there have been some really significant donation. Gosh, 480 00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:44.599 I think there was just a sixty two million dollar one. Don't hold me 481 00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:46.119 to that. I was out of the country. I can't remember if it 482 00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:51.200 was Missouri or one of our other schools. But she's had some really good 483 00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:55.200 success with that, and UH, I would expect that the longer she's rooted 484 00:32:55.240 --> 00:33:00.440 somewhere, the more she'll have an influence on that ass. Yeah, okay, 485 00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:05.680 So how are you liking what's going on with the with realignment? You 486 00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:09.279 got some new teams coming to the sec UH Oklahoma and and UH in Texas, 487 00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:13.759 teams that you're probably very familiar with. What's the word over there in 488 00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:17.720 Missouri? How that affects them? Well, it's kind of funny, just 489 00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:22.599 I laugh at the idea of Texas, only because Texas was at the epicenter 490 00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:28.640 of why all these people left the Big Twelve to begin with, so particularly 491 00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:30.720 Texas, A and M. But there was a long time feeling in the 492 00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:36.119 Big Twelve that it counts out too much to Texas. When when the Big 493 00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:39.440 Eight in the Southwest came together, you know, all of a sudden, 494 00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:45.279 the offices were moved to Texas, not to Kansas City, and the commissioner, 495 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:47.200 you know, was not out of the Big eight, and it became 496 00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:51.759 sort of this feeling like, well, Texas is wielding way too much influence 497 00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:55.440 the institution, particularly, not the state necessarily. So it's just a funny 498 00:33:55.480 --> 00:34:00.960 twist on it. I think that it's ongoing musical chairs. I mean, 499 00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:07.079 I really wanted to think that the twenty eleven, twenty twelve, twenty thirteen 500 00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:12.960 barrage of movement would be sort of sealed in place for a long time. 501 00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:17.800 But I think it's like that expression, the only thing that is constant has 502 00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:24.559 changed, and I find it a little, I don't know, disillusioning, 503 00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:28.599 But how can you even be disillusioned anymore? Right? I mean, everything's 504 00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:34.440 about everything's about commodification, you know, and how do you leverage this into 505 00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:37.519 money? And how do you leverage that into money? I don't know how 506 00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:42.360 much of that does or doesn't help the student athlete, I don't, you 507 00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:47.000 know, with weekday travel and all these sorts of things. And then again 508 00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:52.199 they're better subsidized, I'm sure, but it just feels like the arms race 509 00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:57.800 and between that and the portal and nil. It's not what we knew as 510 00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.440 college athletics. I mean, if somebody had told you some years ago that 511 00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:05.800 you know, you could you could outright pay players instead of just hide it. 512 00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:10.519 And and the gambling was gambling and pot. We're we're all legal everywhere. 513 00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:15.480 If you think, you know, the world is the world is ending, 514 00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:19.920 right, I mean, every once a while I come across a movie 515 00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:22.199 or an old TV show where those things come up, right, you know 516 00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:28.039 that one's like, you know, please gamble. We want to be affiliated 517 00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:30.400 with this anyway, I digress. But no, and let's pay the play 518 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:35.519 Let's pay the college players, you know, and we're also paying the college 519 00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:38.079 players to play, right. Well, you know, I saw, I 520 00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:40.440 saw, I saw an incident you were talking about, you talking about the 521 00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:45.880 dragonet in nineteen sixty five. What are we going to do when they legalize 522 00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:49.239 all this stuff? Well, okay, well here we are. And by 523 00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:53.000 the way, the world does ended on Friday, So have fun. Well, 524 00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:57.119 thank you, Yeah, I appreciate you. Thank you very much. 525 00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:00.360 Good to talk to you. Yeah, hey, listen anytime. I'm glad 526 00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:04.840 we can work it out and look forward to see you down the road. 527 00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:07.360 Hope it's not so many years in between. Three. Yes, true, 528 00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:09.840 very true. Thank you, by I appreciate you. Okay, all right, 529 00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:15.440 okay. Vi Grigorian Weather one of the great columnists in the country, 530 00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:17.920 very quol Kansas City Star. So I wanted to read him. Uh yeah, 531 00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:21.599 go back and see his stuff on you know, on Missouri athletics and 532 00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:23.119 some of the issues they've had. All right, stick around, we're going 533 00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:25.639 to be back. We'll take your calls five two zero four one six. 534 00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:30.400 If you're an Arizona man's basketball fan, you know it's been successful for nearly 535 00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:34.760 forty years. Now take a look back at the Ludolsen era. 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A Team offers a fun and exciting opportunity to work in the sports 563 00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:36.719 and entertainment industry, with flexible schedules that are perfect for those looking for a 564 00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:39.000 part time job or a second income. Come be a part of a winning 565 00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:44.599 team. The A Team apply online today at a Team security dot net. 566 00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:52.039 Steve Rivera and Jacin Solins they have their Eye on the ball on Tucson's Sports 567 00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:57.119 Stage Chat Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back to I in the 568 00:38:57.159 --> 00:39:00.679 Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Iim Steve, He's James at least 569 00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:04.119 with us today fourteen minutes. If you guys want to call, please do. 570 00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:07.840 What were your thoughts on just the thoughts on Desert Ray. I'm hoping 571 00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:09.079 I'm looking forward to having her on the show with time or two. Yeah, 572 00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:14.639 yeah, we gotta when she gets here, right, said March third. 573 00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:17.599 Well, we'll put on our request right away, right away, right, 574 00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:21.960 And then the month is going to be very busy for both really being 575 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:23.199 on the road for for us for a while. We're gonna be kind of 576 00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:27.360 hitting miss on the show, kind of hit and miss each of us. 577 00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:29.800 You know, we're both gonna be up at the PAC twelve tournament, right, 578 00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:34.599 so we'll have three shows that we won't be able to do there and 579 00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:38.559 then you'll presumably be at the first and second round whoever Arizona is. But 580 00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:43.440 I'll be here, so we'll keep the show going and maybe we'll bring InAlAs 581 00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:51.000 in every day. I'm coming yet I need a job. Well, it 582 00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:55.320 doesn't pay very well, and no matter what you think, you better up 583 00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:59.840 state of student. Presuming Arizona gets to the Sweet sixteenth, Steve will be 584 00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:02.159 on and again the next week, so I'll kind of hold things together. 585 00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:07.639 Then we'll know, and then we'll both be gone for the final four, 586 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:15.559 whether Arizona is in it or not him talking about it exactly, but but 587 00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:19.320 we'll both be at the final four. I'm working Steve is while Steve's working 588 00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:21.639 too, so so, you know, as much as we'd like to be 589 00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:23.320 on and be able to talk about all those things while they're going on, 590 00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:29.559 unfortunately we have work a lot to unpack. Yeah, very much. Just 591 00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:31.519 come back so we'll be worth it. We'll keep you up to date on 592 00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:37.519 We got some fun stuff coming up this week. Tomorrow we're gonna have Patrick 593 00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:40.599 Finley. He's the beat writer for the Bears, uh covering the Bears for 594 00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:44.239 the Chicago Sun Times and old friend. He was at theirs of the Daily 595 00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:46.400 Star. His brother Ryan was the sports editor here for a number of years. 596 00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:50.320 Now he's in San Diego. Or We're gonna talk to Patrick Field because 597 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:52.039 well, I am interested. What are they gonna do with Caleb Williams? 598 00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:53.920 You know, is he going to get the Is he gonna be the first 599 00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:57.199 pick? Is he not? Is he going to trade the pick? What 600 00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:00.559 is? What is Chicago? And everybody's looking at Chicago as to what they're 601 00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:02.800 going to do. So we'll get some of Patrick's Pat's insights on that. 602 00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:07.360 He's at the he's at the combine. At the combine. Yeah, and 603 00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:12.000 there's a few Arizona players and a bunch of guys who aren't doing it, 604 00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:16.920 including they say that not only is is Marvin Harrison Junior not going to the 605 00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:21.119 combine, He's not going to do a pro day, he's not working out, 606 00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:23.840 he's not doing anything. I'm like, okay, how do you jeopardize 607 00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:30.400 your status as the number largely the number two pick? He can be enduring 608 00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:36.880 private private workouts for Do you have that list of who's but it was Williams 609 00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:39.119 one obviously no, no, no, but just don't say it now. 610 00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:42.840 Can you use it for a breaking news Yeah? Yeah, yeah, great, 611 00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:45.440 yeah, pull that out. Well there was there was no one from 612 00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:53.199 as. There's like six guys. Yeah, maybe, and it's the most 613 00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:57.960 in a while, I think, given the talent, which is great, 614 00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:00.400 which is great. You can see the talent getting better. Yeah. So 615 00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:04.599 anyway, so we'll see. You know, did you see the schedule for 616 00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:07.440 football football spring? Have you seen that yet? It came out last week. 617 00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:12.159 So it's going the spring games April twenty seventh. That's pretty late into 618 00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:14.719 the year. Yeah, it's probably gonna be a hot, nice hot day. 619 00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:17.719 Yeah, but it's starting later on in next month at some point. 620 00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:22.280 They're charging to get into it. They're charging to get into the game. 621 00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:25.760 Right, Yeah, nothing's free. You want not, it's not. And 622 00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:30.440 you know, look, oh we have a collar coming in. Let's take 623 00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:35.519 that. Hi, you're on the air and eye on the ball. Hey, 624 00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:37.559 gentlemen, So let's say with the experts here, this is the second 625 00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:40.119 time they share. The schedule is done now, so we're issue tomorrow night, 626 00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:44.760 right, Oregon at home? No Oregon State correct, right, because 627 00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:47.480 they already played Oregon State. Well we only get Oregon State one time time. 628 00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:51.719 Yeah. I want to say, we'll straighten us out next year, 629 00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:53.199 next year where there's gonna beating next year. So I get kind of sad. 630 00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:57.079 I wondered, like Matt and you block Cory Wings. You think those 631 00:42:57.079 --> 00:42:59.679 gentlemen will land on your feet. I mean hopefully, like some network picks 632 00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:01.880 them up, No queste, no question. They're they're both very good at 633 00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:05.360 what they do, and they and they you know, they they do work 634 00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:07.440 for the other networks already, you know, uh, you know, I 635 00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:12.320 mean, uh, Matt was on the game uh on on Saturday, and 636 00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:16.800 that was the CBS game or is it Fox? That CBS announcement? And 637 00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:20.320 I wonder who Bill Walton, who's the Conference of Champions. I guess it's 638 00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:23.400 gonna be the big whoever U c l A goes Now the conference, I 639 00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:28.440 don't know. Uh, well, it's a conference and champions not counting U 640 00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:30.079 c l A. Because they're gonna have a tough time. Let me let 641 00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:34.039 me ask you real quick. Who is this? What's your name? Gary? 642 00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:37.599 Derek? So do you like Bill? There's either those who like him 643 00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:38.800 who don't like him. Where do you stand? Okay, I'm gonna catch 644 00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:42.119 him. I'm gonna catch some I'm gonna say heck on the radio for this. 645 00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:44.440 But I actually kind of haven't seen him last couple weeks. I kind 646 00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:46.360 of missed him, I guess is the NBA All Star Game, which is 647 00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:49.880 the biggest waste of time ever. I don't even why anybody watches that. 648 00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:51.960 More like, come on, Bill, I guess you know he wants to 649 00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:53.840 the NBA guys. But I missed him a little bit. Yeah, he'll 650 00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:58.840 he'll be I'm sure he'll be in Vegas in a full force. How many 651 00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:00.599 times have you done that in your life? Right that you think somebody's been 652 00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:02.880 annoying as all hell, then they're not hearing where you're going in a minute, 653 00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:07.320 man, this is something in my day is missing. I gotta miss 654 00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:08.480 though, selling out of pen. I'm a fan, so I'm sure some 655 00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:10.400 people aren't. But I just you know, like I said, I hopeful 656 00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:13.679 of our guys laying on your feet next year. And this guy's gonna be 657 00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:16.480 a weird deal man. You know, we'll see I hope for the best, 658 00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:19.800 gentlemen. I just want to check with you guys there. Appreciate it, 659 00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:22.039 Derek, thank you for calling, call anytime. Thanks for listening as 660 00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:24.719 well. Yeah, appreciate it. You know it is going to be interesting. 661 00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:30.239 But you know, I'm what I'm interested in knowing seeing is how long 662 00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:34.760 the newness is going to carry this, right, the newness of being in 663 00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:37.679 the Big twelve. How long people will be enthusiastic about it, about the 664 00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:40.760 new team, Oh, the new road trips, the new you know, 665 00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:44.679 the basketball. You know, the first basketball season is going to be great. 666 00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:45.639 Okay, what's the second one going to be? Like? Are they 667 00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:47.679 gonna be? Holy hell, we're getting the hell beat out of it. 668 00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:50.880 I don't want to be I don't want to be in this league anymore. 669 00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:53.440 So. I was watching the Baylor TCU game last night, late last night, 670 00:44:53.760 --> 00:45:00.679 and uh, I'm thinking fans are gonna go berserk because they're physical. 671 00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:04.119 How can they don't call thousand? You know, you know the fans are 672 00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:07.880 gonna say they're beating us up. How one's no one's calling it. I'll 673 00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:10.920 take you back, you know. So the first the first game Arizona game, 674 00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:15.239 basketball game that I was the beat writer, Arizona was playing in the 675 00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:21.559 preseason. N I t at u n lv okay, okay, this this 676 00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:27.280 is eight the eighties, six eighty seven sees so this was this was over 677 00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:32.440 Thanksgiving nineteen eighty six. And and somebody made a point, and I remember 678 00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:37.039 where I got it from, but we knew that the refs for that game 679 00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:38.639 were from the Big twelve or the Big Ten at the time, it was 680 00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:42.000 the Big Ten. The rest from that game were in the Big Ten. 681 00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:45.920 Right out of the box. I mean, in the first thirty seconds, 682 00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:52.280 was losing his mind over fathers that weren't being called right and that we were. 683 00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:54.880 And I'm like, that was a follow in the pack. In the 684 00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:59.199 pack, that's a follow, then, that's why. And and I remember 685 00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:02.719 there was this one ref in particular who looked like he looked like a guy 686 00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:06.559 who stole cars in a movie. I can't say it any other way. 687 00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:08.760 He had this big wave of a big head of hair, like a big 688 00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:14.199 bowl of hair, and couldn't have been three. Four minutes into the game. 689 00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:17.599 We basically told Luke shut the hell up and sit down. This is 690 00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:21.639 how we call the game. And Louke was unhappy. And it's like, 691 00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:25.320 these are fouls where we play and why aren't they You brought this up yesterday? 692 00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:30.599 And the point was it has the PAC twelve prepared them for the tournament? 693 00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:35.039 What did you say? No? And no? And it's it hasn't 694 00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:37.639 prepared him physically either either, because the fouls are called different, right, 695 00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:42.920 And and these guys okay, however, many of these guys are here on 696 00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:47.039 this team next year. They haven't played week in and week out in games 697 00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:50.519 like that. The first game we saw last year, we were at the 698 00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:54.920 game TCUC. Who's the first TCU first round? No no two years ago? 699 00:46:55.159 --> 00:47:01.400 Two years ago? Remember we not no, No No? Was the 700 00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:05.960 second game TCU, And you're thinking, what the heck is going on? 701 00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:09.239 They're physical, They didn't Arizona do much and they just weren't used to it. 702 00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:14.159 And they survived that game. A week later, they got mad, 703 00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:16.800 they got beat up by a better physical team. How many times did that 704 00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:21.400 happen in the NC Double A tournament over the years, all the time? 705 00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:24.360 How many times did you right? You know, they just weren't physical enough 706 00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:27.719 for the type of play, that's all the time. You know. What's 707 00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:31.920 funny about that to me is that the Packed ten slash Pack twelve refs would 708 00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:36.920 go into the n C Double A tournament and ref like all the other refs. 709 00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:39.000 They wouldn't ref like they reffed when they were reffing Packed, Pack ten 710 00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:43.119 and Pac twelve games. It surprised the hell out of him. You know, 711 00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:45.239 I don't know if he could talk about this, but let's try to 712 00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:49.199 get Chris reff Tatler on. He's the head of the I don't know how 713 00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:53.400 far he could go, but I don't remember. I think we might. 714 00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:57.559 I can't remember the answer, but I think we did ask him do refs 715 00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:00.960 ref differently in the different conference? And where does that come from? I 716 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:04.639 don't I have We'll no idea what he say because we don't remember anything from 717 00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:08.079 yesterday. But no, but Steve, this is it's to me, it's 718 00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:12.880 this is. This is gonna be at least in basketball. One of the 719 00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:19.719 most interesting things about moving to the Big twelve is how the air, how 720 00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:24.519 Arizona, the game that Arizona Basketball plays will change because of that, no 721 00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:28.239 question, and fans are gonna go berserk. But I can also already see 722 00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:30.360 and no one can see it on the radio. Hold, I'm gonna do 723 00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:36.920 uh Kelvin uh the coach of TCU uh Bill Solf, Come on in, 724 00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:40.199 there's exactly come on in. Yeah, we're looking forward to and and the 725 00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:45.320 fans who moaned and grown at the ticki tag files that Pack twelve calls right 726 00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:46.880 now, they're gonna go, wait a minute, that used to be a 727 00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:50.599 foul. Why isn't it a fall tonight? It's gonna go. It's gonna 728 00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:52.119 be fun. Yeah, it be fun. I'm looking forward to that part 729 00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:55.039 of it. Going back to my original point though, give me interesting to 730 00:48:55.039 --> 00:49:01.239 see how long that lasts or how quickly Arizona fans get used to. Yeah, 731 00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:04.480 that's how the game are going to be. Well, it's a game. 732 00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:07.519 Whether they like it, it's good. And we've seen this because Arizona 733 00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:10.199 doesn't play a physical game. It's a finesse camp. They're gonna if Tommy 734 00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:15.760 goes after guys more like Keisha Johnson. Uh. Then than Philippe. Yeah, 735 00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:20.039 or Rich and you know what I'm saying, it's a different style because 736 00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:22.719 he's got to survive that league. Yeah. So we'll get there when we 737 00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:24.719 get there. We'll get that when we get there. I'm looking forward to 738 00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:27.760 it. Yeah, me Too's a lot of basketball left to be played. 739 00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:30.320 Sure, Tom is not even thinking about No, got a call. Let's 740 00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:34.679 take this call real quick. Hi, you're on the air and eye on 741 00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:37.679 the ball. Hey, I was gonna say that's I think that's the number 742 00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:42.800 one reason we haven't done it much since nineteen ninety seven is work. We're 743 00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:46.000 too soft in all honesty, and that when when the big tournament comes, 744 00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:51.199 we're not used for physicality. You know, I think back to Duke in 745 00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:57.280 Arizona in two thousand and and you know Gardner got fouled and Pack twelve or 746 00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:00.679 back then back then. Sure, yeah, that fall would have been a 747 00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:05.519 technical if it was that Michael, Yeah, jumping out of guys get kicked 748 00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:08.599 out. Yeah, Bann. So So who's this is this? Uh? 749 00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:15.039 Who's this? J r? J? We've had? Well, I re 750 00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:17.800 agree with you, No, I mean how you know, look to me 751 00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:22.960 though, I think going through that so that there's no question about what you're 752 00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:25.679 gonna see in the in the tournament. I think that's gonna help Arizona. 753 00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:30.440 Oh yeah, yeah, And I think that's one thing that got as a 754 00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:34.159 community and radio and everyone across the board. And he's a prep up fans, 755 00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:37.159 especially the ones, you know, the outskirts that that drive on in 756 00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:44.840 and are used to softball, not softball softball. I say, JR, 757 00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:50.159 real quick, how far do you think Arizona's gonna go this year? Yeah? 758 00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:55.280 I don't know. I feel like it's it's very waded down across the 759 00:50:55.360 --> 00:50:59.559 board and only three solid teams. So I think if we make it passive 760 00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:01.840 first, we again, uh you know, anything goes from there. I 761 00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:06.559 think we just got to not play down the competition. Yeah. And and 762 00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:08.760 you know you got a scholarship and in il money, aren't it you know? 763 00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:12.159 Right? Right? Well, you it sounds like you've been around a 764 00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:15.320 long time, because that's exactly how I feel, exactly how I feel. 765 00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:16.960 Thank you, Jared, all right, Jair, I appreciate the com man. 766 00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:22.679 Appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, you know again, I mean that 767 00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:25.920 that kind I remember, just remember that conversation coming up, you know, 768 00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:30.400 every at the end of every season. Were they prepared to that that the 769 00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:37.360 that the refine changes for Arizona and are they prepared for that? And I 770 00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:39.000 think I think we're gonna see some more. Well, look at the Sears 771 00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:43.639 Conference. Who's the toughest team in the league. Do they have one? 772 00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:47.920 Well, Arizona? Is that that tells you a lot. Don't touch me? 773 00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:54.119 You know? Again, you know the and there's so many times we're 774 00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:57.360 sitting there at the table, you know, and a guy puts a hand 775 00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:00.800 on someone and you go let him play you calling that, you know, 776 00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:05.280 And I get the feeling. I've always had the feeling that the PAC twelve 777 00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:10.159 official, the conference office says this is how we're gonna call games right in 778 00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:15.559 the pack because let's let's admit this, in non conference games, it works 779 00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:19.920 against the teams that come here, to the point where, again when I 780 00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:27.199 was covering the team, George uh uh uh John Thompson wouldn't come here to 781 00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:30.480 play with Pack ten repts. Of course, of course they said we're not 782 00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:36.880 coming. The reason why and they and they they uh uh whatever, they 783 00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:40.199 didn't do it. Yeah, well they didn't, you know, live up 784 00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:44.039 to the contract that they had Arizona went and played there, but they wouldn't 785 00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:45.000 come here. Now, all right, let's take our break. We're going 786 00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:50.840 to be back. Uh Analys is loaded up with breaking news and then uh 787 00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:55.039 then we'll have uh Idea and uh Jada Williams from women's basketball. So stick around.